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/cfog/ - Classic Fallout (& New Vegas) General

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Big Iron edition

>Fallout 1 and 2
>Mods and Patches
http://pastebin.com/mtYCtDLV
>Fallout 1.5: Resurrection
http://resurrection.cz/en/

>Fallout: New Vegas
>General Information, Recommendations, Run Ideas, etc:
http://pastebin.com/u29WKkGy
(Updates in progress)

>/fog/ Asset and Mod Repository (Mods, Rips, etc):
http://pastebin.com/q5ryvSZc
>VGU (Rips):
http://pastebin.com/v1adFSwj
http://pastebin.com/S2eDehza

>Fallout Online
http://www.fonline-reloaded.net/
>Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cfogad

Pre-War Thread: >>154586619
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>>154824271
1st for BIG IRON
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>>154824271

Remember during the bethesda conference at E3 when an interview dragged a Ranger cosplayer to the camera, didn't know who he was cosplaying, realized it was related to New Vegas and proceeded to block him from view with a pair of vault cosplayers?
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>>154824271
>those dead eyes behind the helmet
this ranger seen some shit
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Fuck. I can't help but question how strong it is reasonable to make the Ant-Strength Bio-enhancer narrative wise.

On one hand, +1 is stupid, and the equivalent to adding a few reps to your lifting routine. It was obviously a choice made to stop 'Those!' from breaking the game while still adding a cool little reward.

It makes sense that a Bio-enhancer from the guy who accidentally make the Grayditch Ants stupidly tough and breath fucking fire would have some dramatic effects. So, at the least I would say pushing STR to 10. 'Peak human' to use comic terms. But for the sake of how overpowered a Lone Wanderer can get anyway, I'm tempted to push a Spider-Man like angle of 'proportionate strength of an ant'.

But how much is too much? I'm enjoying the power fantasy of being able to three-punch knockout a super mutant, and benchpress a Behemoth, but is that too far?

Back in Tactics a Super Mutant had between 11-14 STR generally. What feats of strength have super mutants pulled off through the series?

I'm looking for some sort of benchmark to work off of. I want to play out this character as super powered, but I don't want to regret going over the top with it later, when she is casually manhandling Lanius.

On the other hand, yeah, benchpressing a goddam Behemoth. I need some creative input here. I don't want to regret foundational choices later in the game.

I suppose I could have her lift a Brahmin or a Robot overhead, neither of which should be beyond a super mutant, but never have cause to lift anything heavier. Leave it an open question.
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What mods should I get to make the strip less of a disappointing shithole?
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>>154824550
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
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>>154824581
Super Mutants have lifted barrels, guns, people, and all sorts of other things. They can lift a dude in full power armor.
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>>154824224
>>154824581

I'm still trying to think on what I can remember about the strength of super mutants, on top of what you said I'm about certain a BoS guy in 3 mentioned them being able to tear people in PA limb from limb.

Not related to SM but in Vault 34 some ghouls are able to knock down one of the interior doors, which I'd imagine are sturdy as fuck, so would require a lot of strength.

Those in mind I'd say you could easily justify her having the strength to lift even a car without feeling you're stepping too out of line lorewise, especially considering that this mutation was created for the exact purpose of boosting strength. 13 - 15 sounds about right imo. Also I'm curious if you're using a mod that actually allows you to lift stuff and throw it around ingame or that's just a metric for the STR boost.
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>>154824412
No, do you have a link?
I want to get mad.
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>new thread right after I post image
How am I supposed to get (you)s
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>>154825068
By killing yourself, faggot.
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>>154824921

I don't have the video but I have a still of the two cosplayers they dragged to block him from the camera

You can still see him peaking over their heads
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>>154824857

Thanks, that is to be honest around the level I had settled on myself after far more in depth thinking that it's probably worth. Something akin to image related. Yeah, I think I recall that chatter too, in fact I think I heard it a few days back in GNR.

I'm using a custom made mod that knocks STR up by 10, as that's the hard cap anyway, adds 30 to base H2H damage, and 20 to Melee.

As for the lifting, FO3 has a Heavy Grab mod I found on the Nexus, and I found what it changed, and can easily replicate it for NV. That's the mod that actually gave me the quandary, as you can lift a Behemoth with it, as as someone rightly pointed out with that frame, bone and probably pure muscle, one probably easily outweighs the car husks in game. I'm thinking that would likely be a step too far.
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>>154825224
didn't know there was a vault where the only source of food was butter
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>>154824715

Ah, missed that. Thanks anon, that helps, given what FO4 has made power armor into.

>>154824857

On my final worry, about manhandling Lanius, I no longer feel concerned about that. Image related. Even with godmode on (because my test character for the outfit and Ant-Strength mod is level 2) Lanius is a fucking beast. In fact, his is still far superior to max strength and a h2h damage buff to the point I'll likely have her use a melee weapon in that fight herself.
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>>154825224
Yeah, I remember that now.
Pulled a fatty and a hamgalaxy to cover up the Ranger.
Low quality, piss easy cosplays get brought forward to cover up what that bloke made.
A fucking disgrace.
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>>154825712
Fucking kek, they literally picked the biggest people from the crowd to cover him up
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Howdy NCR, my name is Ken Smith.

I'm a 25 year old Shi Country Connoisseur (Cowboy fan for you Communists), and I spend my days drinking Sunset Sarsaparilla and Nuka-Cola and listening to superior American Music (Big Iron, Lonestar, Johnny Guitar, In The Shadow of The Valley)

I train with my .357 Revolver every day, this superior weapon can shoot straight through steel because it kicks ass, and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my gun license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.

I speak English fluently, both the NCR and the New Vegas accents, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about NCR history and their Constitution, which I follow 100%

When I get my NCR citizenship, I am moving to New Vegas to attend a prestigious King's School to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become a lynch-pin for a faction vying for the Mojave Wasteland.

I own several cowboy outfits, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to New Vegas, so I can fit in easier. I tip my cowboy hat to the Veteran Rangers and Troopers and speak English as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.

Wish me luck in the Mojave Wasteland
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>>154824271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vr0amOKCHo
BLUE
MOON
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>>154826002
I never not laugh at this, it's just too fucking brilliant.
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>>154826110
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>>154826002
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>>154826110
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>>154826002
ayy lmao
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Is new vegas too easy, even with hardcore?
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>>154828098
Depends on your mods.
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>>154828098
Yup

Jsawyer is a must
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>>154828098
I actually was being a bitch about Jsawyer a couple days ago, and found out the game is easier with it on than Project Nevada.

But on another note Fallout 4's survivial mode really made me realize how much savescumming kinda ruins tension, so I always use a save mod that makes it so that you can't save yourself, instead you need an outside source like a bed or a cigarette or whatever, that can kinda make the game a little more difficult if you want.
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>>154825402
He's not called the monster of the east for nothing.
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How does this gun cycle?

What does it eat?
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>>154826110
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>>154828467
>How does this gun cycle?
magically.

I don't know why Obsidian didn't put charging handles on any of the AR rifles.
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>people that pust "best ending" in the title of their youtube video for Fallout games
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>>154828289
That save mod sounds neat, link?
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>>154828840
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/43834/?
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>>154829197
Thanks
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>>154829361
Destroy Yes Man
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>>154829394
You can't
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Who's your favorite companion?
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>>154829394
You can try, fucker.
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>>154829530

Right now? Cass. Odd that.
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>>154829530
Boone

Last thing Deathclaws never see
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>>154829530
ED-E all day
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>>154829530
Bad Muthafucka
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>>154829530
DIZZYING MERCANTILE SENSE, BOSS
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>>154829530
None of you guys, that's for sure.
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>decide to give NV a try after I noticed the hour difference between it and 4
>make a FotA wannabe playthrough
>arrive in Nipton
>after calling out Vulpes on his bullshit he taunts me into attacking them as "soon after I wouldn't feel anything"
>you bet your furry ass I will attack you
>as I incite attack, ED-E manages to quickly kill 4 legionnaires
>mfw Vulpes was wrong as I felt surprisingly satisfied and happy afterwards

Sending out good vibes to all the couriers out there, I hope today treats you something nice.
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>>154830560
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Do you guys think the next fallout will come before or after TES VI? And where it will take place?
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>>154830769
Fallout Texas by obsidian on fallout 4 engine
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>>154829530
ED-E because 9 luck and lasers hurt
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>>154830560
>>mfw Vulpes was wrong as I felt surprisingly satisfied and happy afterwards
The worst part about killing people is that you never truly get to rub it in their faces that you've killed them.
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>>154830560
>after I noticed the hour difference between it and 4
Wait what do you mean?
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>>154831267
At least in his example I'm pretty sure it's one of the things Caesar calls you out on when you meet him.
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>>154831267
Honestly why I prefer nonviolence when it's an option, nothing is better than proving your superiority and having them live with the shame and the realization of how wrong they are.
Savagery has its place, especially in the wastes but diplomacy is satisfying in it's own right.
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>>154831595
In a completely edge-lordy way. The most satisfying way to do things it completely break some one and tear down everything that has meaning to them.
Like sparring them, but giving them no reason to continue living.
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Does anyone have a screencap of that guy a few weeks back who posted about his run where he did everything in his power to make the dam battle as much of a fuckfest as possible? It was stuff like making all the tribes (Boomers, Enclave...) side with different factions and destroying the Securitron army despite going with Wild Card.
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>>154831349
To my shame, I'm >>154773249
Of course, I'm working on fixing that, but I'd be lying if I said Fallout 4 wasn't fun in its own way. Just not as an rpg.
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>>154832374
Oh okay, honestly it's not much to be ashamed about. Fallout 4 is much more of a timesink with all the settlement shit and painstakingly searching for building materials.
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>>154832710
And in addition to both of these, I havea feeling that I rerolled a whole damn lot more characters in 4 than I did in NV.

I just hope that one day we will get a synthesis of New Vegas and 4.
One that doesn't only connect downsides of both games, that is.
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>>154832374

You poor bastard. I'm 490 in NV and 320 in FO4, so while I'm gettign there, I don't need to worry about questioning my own taste yet.

(I imagine my Silver Shroud playthrough might push it to near the same playtime, but I'll also have done my AntAgonizer and Enclave playthroughs of NV by then.)

>tfw you know your Oblivion playtime is in the thousands of hours, and FO3 probably close to a thousand too.
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>>154833085
I'm actually the complete opposite on both counts.

I only played Fallout 4 once, did the Institute route, and then never played it again because I didn't feel like there was a need to play it again since theres no roleplaying.
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>>154828289
I agree with the savescumming part in Fallout 4, but
>bethesda
I'd ratter have a back up.
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What is the best song in the NV soundtrack and why is it In the Shadow of the Valley
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>>154833575
Because acolytes of a new god.
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>>154833575
Because I would like to settle down
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>>154829530
Joshua Graham.
Cass, because she's relatively weak in combat so I can still have things to kill, and she's MILF age
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>Friend telling me about how her girlfriend basically lied to her about loving her, she feels super betrayed and heartbroken because she was in love with her gf
>have It's A Sin To Tell A Lie stuck in my head for the next few days
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>>154828467
>>154828636
There's a small nub attached to the bolt, it protrudes through the ejection port. That's how you operate it. Yes, I know that's not how real AR pattern guns operate. They also don't shoot "5mm" cartridge. Are you all blind or memeing?
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>>154833760
You mean the forward assist?
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>>154833718
>her girlfriend
Is your friend Felicia Day?
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>>154830560
>FotA wannabee
>killing people when you can avoid it
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>>154833546
Well, thankfully Fallout 4 is literally the most optimized and crash free thing in the world, even with mods.

I did however make the mistake of playing skyrim with a no save mod.
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>>154833850
No you idiot. Forward assist is the button on the back of the rifle. It doesn't "protrude from the ejection port".... fuck, that's a part of the meme now too, right?
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>>154833718
Degenerates, not even once.
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>>154833874
Part of the reason why he isn't an acutal follower.
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>>154833880
True. Past experiences have just made me cautious though.
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>>154833874
>implying many followers don't kill people

There's a group of them that are honest to god anarchists.
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>>154824271
fuck yeah classic fallout dislike 3 and hate 4
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>>154833874
Caesar was a Follower of the Apocalypse at one point don't forget.
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>>154834890
Yeah, but I had an impression he didn't care about their credo too much. Was in for the education, I guess.

It's just that, well, a FotA run where you try to escape violence can be interesting, otherwise it's just a generic "kill bad guys, do good stuff" run. Which is fine too, of course, but I dunno.
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>>154835025
Name literally one "good guy" in new vegas lore
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>>154835376
Hanlon :^)
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>>154835376
(But really, I should've said "better guys".)
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>>154833697
>and she's MILF age
noice
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>>154833697
Graham isn't your companion, you are his.
>want to check his inventory
>"I don't think so."
>o-okay
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>>154836010
>trying to pickpocket him for the first time
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>>154836343
What happens?
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>>154836010
Not with mods he is :^)
>>154836343
>let's talk about tactics
>"What have you to teach me of tactics?
>the legate who lost the Dam because of his tactical inflexibility
And my personal favorite:
>enter sneak mode
>Yesss...
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>>154836413
Give it a try.

>>154836616
He's such an intense dude, it's insane.
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>>154829530
arcade
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>>154829530
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>>154834035

>Dopey buzzcut vanilla Vulpes

ew
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>>154838257
Any chance you've got a link to the whole deck?
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>>154836616
>tell him to switch to melee
>just uses his .45. as a bludgeon
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>>154838679
Damn it, I wish the mod kept that. Instead he just uses some boring ass ripper or machete. I'll admit, it was kind of amusing how he'd just pick up anything and everything, since the mod author forgot to give him companion weapon and ammo settings.
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>>154824661
populate casinos maybe.
The strip open if you think your computer can handle it.
and there was a mod posted in the last thread that adds a food stall to the strip, for that one food vendor lady. It's a cute little mod
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What's the best way to kill Santiago?
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>>154839020
I dropped a grenade in his pocket, it was hilarious to hear his voice go from flamboyantly gay to OH FUCK in a second's time.
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>>154838327
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_promotional_items#Gallery
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>>154838942
>The strip open
Not that anon, but doesn't it break a lot of things?
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>>154839020
>>154839123
Wait shit my bad I was thinking of Sergio
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>>154824661

Gonna shill my own mod here but http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62336/?

I'd also recommend getting Gomorrah Redesigned and Iguazu Shopping Center

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62317/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/56312/?
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>>154839192
Not that anon, but basically nothing.
I've never had an issue, except one navmesh messing up where three of my companions were pulled to a corner for about ten seconds, then returned to normal.
Never happened after and may not have even been due to Strip Open.

>>154839163
I was hoping there was a download link someone had, but saving them all manually isn't too much of a pain.
Thanks.
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>>154839123
>>154839313
Welp, looks like I'm killing Sergio now.
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>>154839192

If you're thinking the vanilla strip is three seperate worldspaces, you're wrong.

It's all one worldspace with occlusion planes and loading doors to make it less taxing on consoles. All strip open does is remove that.
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>>154839381
Same anon, this is actually kinda impressive. I always avoided it because I thought it'd be buggy as shit.
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>>154830769
Louisiana
before TES VI, like right before.
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>>154831828
that sounds hilarious
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>>154830769
Sawyer almost blurted out that he's working on a Fallout right now. The happening is pretty much confirmed.
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>>154840015
I blurt out that I have sex with your sister all the time, but do i really?
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>>154840468
That's an obvious lie - I don't have a sister. And who would believe you anyway?
Josh, on the other hand, literally can tell no lies, we all know this.
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>>154840015
Where?
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>>154840624
maybe it was some other well known gaming property that Sawyer has experience working with that happens to start with the "fah" sound... and this property also happens to be set in Louisiana, which Sawyer just visited.
I'm just trying not to get my hopes up
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>>154840015
That's amazing news if that's true.
Just hope he actually gets to make the game he wants to make this time and half of it doesn't end up on the cutting room floor because of bullshit deadlines.
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>>154833287

It's a mixture of

>Voiced protagonist with a background that doesn't actually contribute to roleplay in the slightest. (And actually doesn't make sense if you play a female character)
>The dialogue system being gimped to accommodate the d-pad for no real reason other than tying it to the d-pad
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>>154840854
It's a real shame. Voiced protagonists can work in RPGs where you play a more established character and have a more focused storyline.

Fallout is not that sort of game. I sincerely hope they return to a non-voiced protag with the next installment.
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>>154840673
>>154840853
https://youtu.be/YPQ8v0oNGMA?t=1927

>>154840780
That sure would be hilarious.
I never stopped believing that Obsidian might get another shot.
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>>154841228
Thanks for the source.

>I was working on Fall-

Is it ok to believe?
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>>154841228
BE STILL MY BEATING HEART
FALLOUT BIG EASY HERE YOU COME
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>>154841228
The separation of mentioning Project Louisiana and then Fallout is worrying, like he's just being a cheeky fucker.
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Can anyone explain to me what's the appeal of pic related?
I tried playing it and it felt too Fallout 3 for me.
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>>154841228
Louisiana is Pillars 2, though.
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>>154842209
I thought PB was dead? After like the first instalment
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>>154842209
*felt too much like
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>>154842343
Fuck yes Pillars of Eternity, Obsidian's golden child.

So does that mean This next fallout is gonna be in the boneyard? I'm pretty sure that was a suggested area for a fallout game awhile back by the Obsidian CEO
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>>154842419
Nah, check their FB, they're nearly done.
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>>154842468
The next Fallout is going to be wherever Bethesda decides to set it at.
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>>154842343
I thought PoE 2 was already previously announced.
And not given a secret project title
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>>154842661
Fuck you buddy
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>>154842704
>PoE 2 was already previously announced
It wasn't officially announced yet, but Sawyer pretty much did that already.

And Obs uses project names for every game they make.
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>>154842704
>Obsidian sends Josh to Louisiana to scope the area out for two games, Fallout and PoE
>they save time and money this way
>codename the Fallout Project Louisiana
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>>154842806
Does/did Tyranny have a project title?
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okay, is that a common bug that the game just freezes shut and you can't tab out? or is that probably a mod error?

I also have a weird bug, were my mouse cursor doesn't work for dialogue anymore, when I used my pipboy and move the cursor out of the map
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>>154842928
forgot, I am playing F:NV
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>>154842928
>okay, is that a common bug that the game just freezes shut and you can't tab out?
a lot of games do this.

Oddly, if I close NV and have another program running (music player, image folders, internet, etc) it won't freeze, but if I have nothing to alt-tab into it'll freeze and crash.
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>>154842343
Yeah the distinction of saying he was working on PoE 1 as opposed to just PoE all but confirms it.
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>>154842928
>okay, is that a common bug that the game just freezes shut and you can't tab out?
May happen, you need to crash the game with Task Manager to go back to desktop.

>I also have a weird bug, were my mouse cursor doesn't work for dialogue anymore, when I used my pipboy and move the cursor out of the map
Restart the game. I think there's also a potential INI tweak that may fix it, look up something like "New Vegas can't click bug" and you'll find stuff.
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>>154842917
Sure does, though I am not sure what is that. It's a BIS tradition. In Black Isle they used names of US presidents in chronological order. Hence, Van Buren, the Fallout 3 that wasn't supposed to be.

Here's the list of all Obsidian projects:

https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/83400-obsidian-project-list/

Curiously, that means that Tranny was started after PoE 2 (makes sense, PoE is the Obs own cash cow now), and so was the UE4 project with Cain and Boyarsky.
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>>154843258
Actually never mind, old list, Vermont could be Tranny.
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>>154843258
I'm assuming the listed Vermont is tyranny?
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>>154843423
Yes, you are probably correct.
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>>154843136
>>154843183
weird thing is, I never had that freeze bug before, haven't installed it once since I upped to win10 and now in win10 it happens

just in case could you guys check my load order?
http://pastebin.com/eY7rsaF0
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>>154841092

It doesn't work because we can't form any sort of connection with the voice actor.

Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale worked because they voiced a rather concrete character personality wise across a whole trilogy. Bethesda isn't going to bring back the Sole Survivor and by extension Courtenay Taylor and whatshisface for fallout 5.
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>>154841228
He meant to say PoE 1, he was gonna say Fallout New Vegas, as in "I was working on Fallout New Vegas" but then he realized that the game he had been working on most recently was PoE. And since Project Louisiana is PoE 2... he had to add the 1 as an addendum when he talked about it.

This confirms that no Obsidian fallout will ever be made again. Abandon every hope, ect.
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Started a unarmed retard Fallout 2 game. Going pretty well. Already have a mega power fist.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there really is no way to play a retard "legit", right? Anyone who would uncover anything on my map won't talk to me, and I'm not going to use mentats to get it out of them.

Been awhile, so not sure.
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>>154844839
>Anyone who would uncover anything on my map won't talk to me
Does the guy in Vault City refuse to talk to you? The guy Vic got the water flask from, I mean.
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>>154843982
Gamebryo is a trash engine, upgrading your OS usually makes things worse because of comp. issues.

Freezes/crashes may also be caused by saves filled with engine trash or too large in size. Make sure you have the necessary INI tweaks and mods like FNV4GB, and this should make them less frequent. Otherwise start a new game, after all FNV doesn't give you much stuff to make you play around on the same save.
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>>154833874

Nicole was totally down with wrecking the Children of the Cathedral, don't forget.
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>>154824271
>Dr. Gannon, I'm NCR.
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>>154839313

Santiago's pretty flamboyant too.
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>>154846302
>Dr. Li, I'm BOS
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>>154846302
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>>154845335
Haven't checked. I've skipped most of the early stuff. Will eventually go back and free Vic, but haven't talked to him yet. As for Vault City, the only way to get in is through your Vault 13 suit, and most people I found there wouldn't talk to me. Everyone in the Council building will have you thrown out, too.
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>>154847414
the guy I'm talking about is outside the city, in a shack across from Cassidy's bar
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>>154847510
I'll check.
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>>154833880
>Well, thankfully Fallout 4 is literally the most optimized and crash free thing in the world, even with mods.
You have no idea how much this surprised me when I picked it up.
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>>154829530
Perspective is fucked, het thighs are like half as long as they should be.
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lol. Run in to a caravan versus some Fire Geckos. Entire caravan wiped out with one gecko left. Kill it and loot the caravan master... has 3 Combat Armors. Lucky fucking day.
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>>154846696
>Dr Dad, I'm Enclave
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>>154852787
Forgot pic
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>>154851646
>Caravan master

>Dead to fire gekos

Yeah sure buddy, that fucker alone can kill 10 muties
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>>154853474
Are we talking about the same person? His guards had some good weapons, but they just got rekt by double flames per gecko.
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>>154836770
Eyy fuck you, i did it and nothing happened. It only made him talk to me instead
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>>154847019
Who is the burned man? Why does he wear the bandages?
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>>154853829
The FOnline one right ?
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>>154854116
Yeah, that's the point, retard.
He's too smart to fall for your tricks.
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>>154854274
No, Fallout 2.
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>>154854274
>FOnline
I sincerely hope /cfog/ doesn't defile the classics with "multiplayer".
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>>154854861
But it's genuinely well made though, anon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzMHvvBqVuY
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>>154838257
There was one Vulpes design I liked, but I've gone through too many mods to remember which one he came from.

Pic is current Vulpes. Might be his NVR3 design.

I keep forgetting to find out which mod is removing the goggles from his helmet.
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>>154855590
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h38zN_vF_dQ
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is nw really on par with the original ones?
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>>154855752

Yeah, that's NVR

Gr8 mod
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>>154856372
>NVR
>Good
Say that to Red Lucy and all the companions.
I'm not sure if it's NVR or not, but one mod decided to change Cook Cook by rerecording his dialogue and turning him into an edgelord pyromanic
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>>154855752
>>154856372
Everything I heard about NVR makes it sound fucking terrible.
Especially its creator's personal vendetta against glasses /goggles /eyewear in general.
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>>154856804
I JUST noticed this, I was suspecting it was NVR3 that removed the goggles from the mesh, and I just confirmed it.

Using MO, you think I can just delete the goggle-less mesh and the game will grab either the vanilla or the mesh from another mod if there is one? The one thing I do like about the mod is that it adds a lot of details, especially on corpses.
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>>154855752
why does he look like a third rate Hollywood male lead
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>>154857325
Wait, just realized they probably removed all the goggles and glasses because they couldn't fix the clipping issue or something.
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>>154857325
>going against the mod maker's artistic vision
Bad goy. :^)
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YOU'RE GOING FOR A RIDE ON THE GIGGLE BUS
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>>154857680
More like going against the mod maker's lazy bug fix:
>>154857590
Saw it in a bug report thread, I guess it's easier than actually making it not clip.
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>>154857590
>>154857770
Well that's embarrassing.
Is Vulpes the only one who lost his goggles?
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>>154857927
All the vexawhatever helmets lost them, they just erased them from the mesh.

Not sure if any other helmets lost goggles though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fjM9pKeEGw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTmCrtj98kU


>This western gothic
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>>154856657

I don't think it's NVR, NVR4 isn't even out yet and that's the one that's changing voices
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>>154856804

Honestly, I don't have any issue with it.

Any mod that improves NPC faces is an upgrade from the absolute shitshow of NPC appearances in vanilla NV

>>154858065

Only the vex helmet, iirc
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>>154858437
>face redesign mod
>changing voices
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>>154858437
I think it's FOOK.
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>>154858586
Makes me wish I knew how to edit models without fucking them up. The hard part would be how to tell when it won't clip anymore, I guess.
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>>154858739

It stopped being about just face redesigns ages ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCo2pOu_a9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBzn03H5j0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwm4XlnH0vQ
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>>154856657
You're thinking of NVR4. NVR3 is fine.
>all the companions
I'm not sure what's wrong. Boone, Gannon and Cass look pretty good, much more than the base game.
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>>154859167
Boone looks nothing like himself though.
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>>154859167
>Cass
>good
She's 38, not 18.
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>>154859324
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>>154859415
That's Gamebryo FaceGen to you. If anything, redesigned Cass is better than vanilla tranny butterface Cass.
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>>154859032
but why?
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>>154859032
He even fucked with cook cook.
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>>154859591

Because Yuri Lowenthal voices too many characters
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>>154859634

I'm kinda hoping the released mod will let you choose which new voices you want.
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>>154859591
Recording dialogue is fine if you get good voice actors. Especially in places like the Fort where most of the Legion have the same voice actor.

Recording dialogue by changing what the character says/does is NOT okay because its going against the developers vision.
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>>154859663
At least he doesn't overact.
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>>154859882

Kinda seems like he's changing the dialogue in cases where he thinks the original VA just wasn't able to convey the emotion the dialogue was suggesting

Like Oscar. I don't like the new voice but what the fuck was the original VA even doing
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>>154859940

>Anime voice actor
>Not overacting
>Antony

Yuri Lowenthal was kind of a bad choice for a VA. Him voicing McNamara just feels wrong
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>>154860052
Again that might be the case, but there is no need change the dialogue itself. Like I said earlier, Cook Cook has gone from a guy who cooks for the Fiends into an edglelord who likes to "cook" things with his flamer.
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>>154860359

Yeah Cook-Cook kinda doesn't make sense. The VA's fine but then he starts making weird-ass noises that the original VA didn't make
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>>154860237
He's not overacting compared to some of the examples in that comparison video. I didn't watch it all, but the original Centurion, for example, has a very smug attitude about his superiority to profligates. The revoiced Centurion is just gruff and manly, like pretty much every other their attempt at revoicing characters.
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>>154860359
>Cook Cook has gone from a guy who cooks for the Fiends into an edglelord who likes to "cook" things with his flamer
Buuuut isn't he technically both anyway

I mean did you never talk to anyone in Vegas about the dude? He was a rapist and a sadist and typically bought slaves just to fuck and/or burn.

Damn good cook though.
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>>154860556

>the revoiced Centurion is just gruff and manly

Kinda feels like that's the point, the vanilla centurion sounds like a whiny teenager
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>>154860359
>Cook Cook has gone from a guy who cooks for the Fiends into an edglelord who likes to "cook" things with his flamer.
Cook Cook has always been both of those things, did you even play the game?
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>>154861187
>>154861001
https://youtu.be/zCo2pOu_a9Q?t=124

Just watch it. You can't honestly say these are conveying the same thing.
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>>154861126
He doesn't sound whiny. He sounds young but Legion IS young, people climb the ranks fast... or die.
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>>154861392

Either way the fact the whole trip to the Fort basically consists solely of Yuri Lowenthal is kinda jarring
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>>154861353
2:03

Didn't link at the right time for some reason.
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>>154861519
Eh. It's just a mod, I can always not install it.
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>>154859463
>all these images of boone all ripped when he's literally a scrawny little angsty bitch in game
lmaoooo
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Speaking of mods, is there any decent AMR retexture? Preferably with mods (carbon parts etc.). Couldn't find one for some reason.
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>>154861742
I was more interested in the Cass.
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>>154861895
Doesn't Millennia have one? Or is it not to your liking?
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>>154862027
I know I'm surrounded by monkeys, no need to remind me.
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>>154862080
Hm right, I should check that big mod of his first.
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>>154862145
No bully. She's cute.
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Thoughts on Obscurum? I'm pretty sure the particle effects will kill my toaster, and the mod author seems like kind of a bitch, but it seems like an interesting overhaul.
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>>154862274
And she doesn't button her shirt that low. Only body mod creeps have it that way, loser.
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>>154862265
There's this standalone one: http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/39306/?
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>>154862402
holy shit m8 it's just fanart, calm down
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>>154862465
Yes, but it doesn't look very good, and it doesn't look like it supports a modded version either. But thank you, anyway!
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>>154862557
Kill yourself
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>>154862650
No
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>>154862579
Can you describe what would look good?
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>>154862274
>>154862557
>>154862713
Another of exquisite taste, I see.
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>>154862809
I wish the Vegas marriage quest hadn't been scrapped. It would have been hilarious, and having the King do the ceremony would have been great, too.
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>>154862650
>>154862402
>>154862145
>this christfag again
Your god is a lie and your shit's all retarded.
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>All these people posting a mediocre companion.
Here's the best FNV companion.
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>>154862782
Well, the one you posted looks really beaten up (not sure it fits for a very expensive weapon that I try to maintain in top condition), and it doesn't look like the resolution is very high either. I'm not an expert on these things, though.
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>>154863036
>muh wife
No
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>>154863036
That's not Raul and ED-E
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>>154862952
It would have been the perfect Vegas thing to do.
I feel there wasn't enough of it, you know?
Stereo-typically Vegas things.
Would have been ace.
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>>154862952
Avellone hates fun.
I wish she wouldn't die in half of the endings for no reason.
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>>154863021
I would strongly suggest that you think about your actions and what you've said here.
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God Homo sapiens piss me off!
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>>154863237
>implying Graham doesn't go to bone city with the tribal babes

I think this is who you were looking for.
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>>154863207
Man, I really wish the Black Armor was bulkier. Not a bloated /k/ monstrosity, but something closer to what's in that pic.
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>>154863420
>Thinking Graham has a raider leader mentality
Don't project your degenerate notions on righteous men.
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>>154861353
Oh, I see.
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>>154862952

I was working on a mod that added in a drive-thru chapel headed by a NCR chaplain who hates his job and a crazy ghoul priest who holds funerals for ferals in the basement

Never got too far into it, might give it another go one of these days.
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>>154861353
>that cook-cook retard channeling his shitty Hannibal impression.
Remove Nexus.
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>>154863785
That sounds really interesting, but I think the main issue would be the religious aspect since it'd need to fit into the lore.
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>>154863570
>degenerate notions
Is it degenerate to fulfil the desires of women who revere you?
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>>154863983
Yes, actually.

Raiders are not revered, they are feared.
Plus it's sex out of wedlock but that's an entirely different topic.
Just don't @ me with your primitive monkey brain.
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>>154863923

There wouldn't be too much of a religious aspect, the chaplain's only there to give out legal documents to NCR citizens who want to get married and also make a few caps on the side.

The ghoul just wants to give others of his kind a final resting place after living for so many decades. I also had an idea for a protectron programmed to spout out garbled bible verses that made complete nonsense.

If you want a chapel now though, there's this. Haven't tried it myself though http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62133/?
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>>154835376
Randall fuckin Clark
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>>154863923
They could just flub it up and not particularly care too much about the specifics of the ceremonies. Hell, it's not like people are as familiar with Christianity then as they are now if HJ os anything to go by. It could just be some super loosely interpreted version of the ceremony.
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>>154863923
Just have it be a Mormon Missionary who went to Vegas, fell in love with the place, and teamed up with said NCR and Ghoul to give out marriage licenses.
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>>154864447

I always imagined the chaplain as a dude who only became one to avoid actual soldiering.

Literally the first thing he'd say to you is to ask you to take over for a couple hours so he can round his caps up and have some R&R at gomorrah

Meanwhile you'd end up having to marry several couples in his place including a prospector who wants to marry his nonsentient mister gutsy and a guy who totally isn't a legionary combing the chapel for a shiny gold ring to adorn his woman-who-is-totally-not-his-slave with
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>>154864694
That actually sounds really fucking cool.
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>>154864694
Now that's a fucking quest mod I can get behind.
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>>154862402

She doesn't button it *that* low, but it's pretty close.
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>>154863207

Her father has a heart condition and she's implied (or stated? I can't remember) to have inherited it. Combine that with alcoholism and a dangerous lifestyle and you don't have a recipe for another Tandi.
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>>154864989
>Those settings
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>>154864989
My Cass is better.
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>>154864989
There's a difference between that, and the hooker levels people try to portray with her.
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>>154865194
DELET THIS
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>>154864797
>>154864917

Other ideas

>Members of the ghoul priest's congregation includes a former nun who is arguably more evangelical then he'll ever be and a mechanic in charge of the cremator who still can't memorize bible verses to save his life after 100 years of service.
>One room of the basement is a padded cell for soon-to-be ferals to pass away peacefully, filled with pre-war memorabilia and a record player playing their choice of music.
>You can potentially meet the couples you marry later on in other parts of the mojave. The mister gutsy finally attains sentience just after his master dies and feels grief for the first time.
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>>154865194
why the long face?
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>>154865194
I am physically ill right now. Holy shit just wow
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>>154865194
>that fucking head
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>>154865321
I like it.
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>>154865121

I just got it off a Google search, man.
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>>154865194
>that HUD
Why
Who would even

>>154865110
Yeah, I know. Still feels cheap to just kill her off in the epilogue slides.
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>>154865471
Probably the console version, then.
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>>154865539
Actually you can only get that on PC
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>>154865636
Huh, maybe someone on a laptop then.
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>>154865525
Which slides does she die in? I usually do house and I'm pretty sure she lives.
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>>154865321
Fund it.
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>>154865423

A few more

>One of the marriages is a blatant shotgun wedding between a drifter and a brahmin baron's daughter. They're both being held at gunpoint by the baron's entourage of bodyguards and it's your choice whether to stop the wedding or not.
>One wedding actually goes pretty smoothly, until a second wife shows up. They're mormons.
>One ghoul comes in with a dead body looking for the priest. He asks if it's ok to marry the corpse after the funeral.

If anyone else has any ideas, let me know. I might try to make something out of it
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>>154865819
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Cass#Endings

Only if you kill her or do none of her quests.
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>>154865819
>Vegas burned brighter than ever, securitrons filled the streets, and Cass's heart skipped... just a little. Her last words were to the Dam - and to herself. "We were going full speed ahead... but facing backwards the whole time."
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>>154865928
>One ghoul comes in with a dead body looking for the priest. He asks if it's ok to marry the corpse after the funeral.

holy shit, my sides

What about a Ghoul and a Feral one?
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>>154865819
The heart skipping a beat thing And the fact that it says "her last words" makes me feel like she has a heart attack/finally gives in to her condition relatively soon after.
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>>154865928
Honestly just do >>154864694
and the shotgun wedding one.

The others seemed to cheesy and forced.
The padded cell was a nice touch though.
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>>154866068
>>154866280
>>154865984
well fugg.
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>>154865928
>>154866231
Shit, that could actually be kinda sad.

A ghoul and his pre-war fiance show up and he still wants to get married despite her being feral.
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>>154865928
I don't like making the ghouls "lol so zany" ones. Didn't like it in Come Fly With Me either. A ghoul knows the difference between a feral one, a sentient one and a fucking corpse. Well, a sane one, anyway.
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>>154866447

His justification would be that after 200 years of bullshit he's come to accept he's doing things in the wrong order.
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>>154865928
A man shows up with a Protectron/Mr Handy who he wants to marry.
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>>154866567
People might call that a Fallout 4 rip off
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>>154866672
I haven't played Fallout 4.
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>>154865928
enclave scientist and deathclaw
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>>154866567

Already have that idea:

>>154864694
>>154865321

>>154866349

I could always reserve one or two of them for Wild Wasteland users if it's too goofy.
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>>154866408
Now that you mentioned that I feel bad for laughing.

what a rollercoaster of emotions.
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>>154866758
omg so zany! and fallout 3 reference! how about that:

plant and a radscorpion

pinky and the brain

talking deathclaw and a ghost
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>>154867018
I didn't even notice the fallout 3 implications
also do you need help are you having a stroke?
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Do guys around here enjoy FO3 (for whatever is fun/comfy about it) or are we all NMA up in here?
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>>154867163
I've been hurt before
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>>154865928
A marriage between two, massive, cloaked figures.
They're deathclaws.[spoiler\]
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>>154866814

Also, here's a shot of the chapel I did for the idea ages ago. I could always give it a makeover with complete custom assets later on but Idunno
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>>154867404
Cute.
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>>154867356
I'm NMA poster and I like The Pitt and Point Lookout only.

I don't hate F3, but I don't like it either it.
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>>154867356
F3 did everything wrong, aside from reviving the franchise.
I'm not gonna go full NMA on you for posting it though.
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>>154867356
It's enjoyable. I think it has some nice, if generic, atmosphere.
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>>154867356
I do
it's reactionary a lot of it, though that doesn't mean I disagree with the flaws people find, it's a low tier game, but i'd still play and enjoy it
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>>154867474
I'm in that weird situation where I know FO1/FO2 backwards and in Romanian, had felt a little saturated with FNV, and figured I might just give FO3 another chance and try to dig out whatever merits I overlooked.

Elsewhere I'd probably wonder if "my taste hasn't gotten shittier".
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>>154867356

Better with mods

It has the better world design compared to NV though
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>>154867632
low tier fallout game*
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>>154867437
My only complaint is that it's a bit barren. Throw some props there to add some character: a trashcan or bin overflowing with empty bottles, cause most customers are drunk, a King's poster, some Vegas memorabilia, whatever you can.
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>>154866068

I always "just a little" meant it was a tiny little murmur (as opposed to, it skipped and then stopped), and that her last years were years later, because it still represented the most significant event in her life. That she'd be sure they were facing backwards the whole time implies she knew how it all turned out, because she's had time to see the ramifications develop.
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>>154867845

Yeah like I said, I never got too far into the mod to give it a proper detail pass. It's always been a massive WIP.
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>>154867356

I liked it. A lot of the problems become a lot more apparent on a second playthrough, but I still think it's a decent game and deserves to be part of the canon.
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>>154867663
Don't get me wrong, some of it I liked, but after seeing a better game done on the same engine, it's really not held up well, especially if you play TTW which for some people is the ONLY way to play because F3 has the tendency to crash more than FNV and you see the content compared to each other.

Like I said, The Pitt and Point Lookout are excellent; better than Lonesome Road but not quite as good as the other FNV DLCs. If you do play it again, I highly recommend doing those two if you haven't previously.

Just ignore Anchorage and Mothershit Zeta. Broken Steel is bad, but not insultingly bad; a DLC that reflects the vanilla F3 experience perfectly.
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>>154867356
Sometimes I actually prefer Fallout 3 over Vegas particularly because theres a bigger map, with much more to explore, and theres also 'muh atomosphere'.
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>>154868092
I disagree about the DLC, I didn't think the OWB was very good either
HH was good but a bit bland, DM was good
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>>154868092
Does anyone use Anchorage for anything other than being a shitter and getting PA training early like me?
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>>154859463
>Cass has a side by side double barell
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>154868212
Why would Todd care about that?
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>>154863036
Literally best companion
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>>154868207
With TTW it plays much better, as you have challenge modes specific for the DLC, better companion management and ironsights.

>>154868198
You might be in a minority.
Here is my ranking if you're bothered.

>GOD TIER
Dead Money, Old World Blues
>GOOD TIER
Point Lookout
>OKAY TIER
The Pitt, Honest Hearts
>BAD TIER
Broken Steel, Lonesome Road
>SHIT TIER
Operation Anchorage
>ALIENS STARTED THE GREAT WAR TIER
Mothership Zeta
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>>154868207
[/spoiler]every single play through [/spoiler]
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>>154868943
Yeah. Unfortunately, I heard that TTW bloats like a motherfucker.
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>>154868324
idk i just wanted a le rage face and this one was the first i saw
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>>154869006
>tfw you fuck up your spoiler tags
Goodbye /cfog/ gonna go take a bath with a toaster
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>>154868943
>Old world blues
>anything but shit
Stop.
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>>154869209
see you, robot cowboy
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>>154869213
OWB is great and you are a faggot who probably uses "reddit" as an adjective.
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>Look, anyone who's played New Vegas can agree that Fallout 4 doesn't have the same level of depth or roleplay potential. And that's okay. Fallout 4 was created as a different experience than the previous games, and that's okay. Fallout 4 is, despite what everyone seems to be saying, a good game. And that's okay. People have complaints about Fallout 4, valid complaints, and that's okay.
People are making complaints about Fallout 4 that also applied to New Vegas, WHILE DEFENDING those same issues from New Vegas. That's not okay.
Let's talk about a little thing called railroading.
Railroading, by definition, is being forced to move along a single track without deviating from it. Being forced to find a water chip and stop a genocidal army? That's railroading. Being forced to find a GECK and stop a genocidal army (quite the original story, if I might say so), that's railroading. Forced to find your dad and stop a genocidal army (really now, people say this series has original ideas?)? Railroading.
And then we reach New Vegas. You have four options. Wow. Never had this level of choice before in the series. Let's see what they have to offer.
NCR: Go do quests for the Boomers, strip families, Khans, and take out the BOS. Then fight across Hoover Dam to the Legate's camp. Alright, awesome! I feel really accomplished, and can't wait to see what the other factions have to offer.
House: I need you to go do quests for the Boomers, Strip Families, Khans, and take out the Brotherhood of steel. Then you'll need to fight across Hoover Dam to the Legate's camp, but you'll have a securitron with you this time. Ah... I see. Okay. Well, it makes sense that House's goals would be similar to the NCR. Let's see what Caesar offers, shall we?
Caesar: I need you to go do quests for the Boomers, Strip Families, Khans, and take out the Brotherhood. Then fight across the Dam in the opposite direction. Well, let's see if option number four is any different.
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>>154869213
>implying that OWB isn't great
Stop.
I wouldn't say it's as good as DM, aka the greatest DLC in vidya, though.

>>154869209
Ctrl+s, lad.
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>>154869495
Yes Man: Hi there! There's a couple of groups out there you need to get acquainted with...
Wow. What a wide variety of choices we got. We have a grand total of four different people that we can turn the exact same quests into! But that's okay. We have limitless choice. After all, we're the motherfucking mailman! We have plenty of minor factions we can join. Let's try the Powder gangers.
Alright, I've done quests for Eddie and proven my loyalty to them by fending off the NCR's attack. Now, we should take the attack to the NCR! Let's see what Eddie has for me next.
Oh. Generic dialogue. Well, that's okay. I'll go to the Mojave outpost and tell their boss that the Powder gangers are taking over.
Oh. More generic dialogue. That's cool too I guess. I suppose I'll have to join the fiends then.
Alright, I've lied my way in to their Vault. Time to ask Motor Runner to make me his lieutenant, there's no way they wouldn't let a badass like the Motherfucking Mailman join.
Oh. All I can do is sell you my drugs. That's cool, I guess. Well, at least the Fiends know I'm an ally now. Since the guys in here are friendly, I think that the rest will be too. Might make it easier to traverse through this area.
Oh, I guess not. But that's okay, since someone inside the Vault said that the ones outside are too drugged to reason. I guess that makes them nothing but
generic
enemy
Raiders.
I love New Vegas, otherwise I wouldn't have played it more than any other game since it's release. I put up with playing it on the PS3 for years, just because of how much I love it. It made it that much sweeter to finally play crash free on PC, with Freeside and The Strip open like they should have been all along. But you know what you can do with things you love?
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>>154868943
Not that anon, but here's my ranking

>God Tier
Honest Hearts, Old World Blues
>Almost God Tier but them Radios tho Tier
Dead Money
>Good Tier
Point Lookout, The Pitt
>Alright Tier
Lonesome Road
>Meh Tier
Operation Anchorage, Broken Steel
>Kill it with Fire Tier
Mothership Zeta

Ghosts were in Fallout 2 right? How come they didn't get a DLC where it was shown that they went back in time and haunted the Americans and Chinese forcing them to go to war :^)
Guess Bethesda is really slipping up ha ha
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>>154869495
nice reddit post
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>>154869614
You can be critical of them. You can make complaints, you can acknowledge flaws, just like I can with Fallout 4. But something you can't do is criticize something you hate for doing something that something you love also did, without also acknowledging that the thing you love did it too.
That makes you a hypocrite.
Fallout 4 is a great game. Fallout New Vegas is a great game. I've played for fifteen years, and I love both. It's not a competition about which one is better like some people seem to think. Fallout 4 is a different experience than New Vegas, but it's still an enjoyable one.
More importantly, it's okay to not like Fallout 4. It's also okay to not like New Vegas (although I really can't comprehend why you wouldn't). It's not okay to be a toxic influence on the community, telling people they're idiots for liking something that you don't. The fuck are you, twelve? Grow up. Accept that people have different interests than you.
And remember, New Vegas doesn't suddenly stop existing because Fallout 4 does. If you "miss" roleplaying potential, if you "miss" the skills system, if you "miss" skill checks, then stop bitching about it and play the game that still has them.
TL;DR Fuck all y'all with your fighting over which game is good and which game is shit, I'm trying to enjoy a series over here and your vitriol is spilling onto the rest of us.
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>>154869498
Im a mobile poster
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>>154869495
>>154869614
>>154869742
Courtesy of r/fallout from leddit
Why are bethdrones so fucking fanatical? I died a little inside trying to post it
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>>154826110
the ripper design is essentially the same they just made it look more ergonomic

the old energy weapons are just normal guns with extra shit slapped on them except for the old plasma rifle

for the most part I like the newer designs aside from the flamer

>>154868943
>>ALIENS STARTED THE GREAT WAR TIER
nowhere in MZ was this stated
In fact theres some ghoulified chinese ghoul in boston that says he was the first to launch the nukes
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>>154869441
>>154869498
>DLC literally starts off with a half hour of dialogue with several people (one guy) all of which means absolutely nothing and is extremely unfunny.
>he then sends you on a fetch quest, which lasts until the end of the DLC

Literally the only thing about Old World Blues that's good is the references to the other DLC's like Dead Money and Lonesome Road, other than that, it's shit. Gives you some shitty weapons and armor, what a waste of money.
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>>154869742
One problem, actually two
1: Fallout New Vegas aint shit
2: Fallout New Vegas actually has good writing and world building
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>>154869832
Go fry yourself in that bath then, scum.
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>>154869889
>dialogue with several people (one guy) all of which means absolutely nothing
that's not true, you can speech check yourself a nice gun and a ton of ammo
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>>154869742
Having four choices progress through the same order is not railroading you dense fuck. You are doing the same actions but for different personal reasons. Four different groups are vying for control of new vegas, they all need the same resources or to deny the others resources, and you can follow their plans or manipulate them to your will. You can even sequence break the quest

Even then, that's not fucking railroading, nothing is forcing you to do the main quest it's completely skippable.

There isn't even any fighting over the games, if you think fallout 3 or4 are better than fo1, fo2, or new vegas than you're objectively an idiot.
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>>154869976
The tl;dr really sealed the deal for me, just look at how mad and raving the faggot that wrote this fucking passage on how Todd is basically Godd

Nuke the fucking franchise and end this fucking meme already
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>>154869889
Funny is subjective you meme.
If you don't like the humor, no shit you won't like OWB.
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>>154869871
>Bethesda backtracking on their own bullshit
This is why the Lyon's brotherhood have randomly abandoned their "good guy" agenda and half of the npcs can't decide ghouls eat or not.
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>>154869889
I guess if you don't like the characters in the DLC, you can't really like the DLC ha ha. you're wrong about it being unfunny though
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>>154870127
The lil bitch over leddit misused the definition of railroading to further his own argument that NV is somehow just about as bad and linear as FO4
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>>154867845

It's not much, but I added a little more detail
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>>154870147
I dont understand the reason why bethdrones try so hard to act like fallout 4 is something above average, if you wanna play an rpg in a post apoc, go play fallout new vegas, if you want open world running/gunning go play far cry or whatever the new sandbox of the month is. Fallout 4 is just a mish mash of a dozen things with no focus or structure.
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>>154870350
It's already livened up the place. Nice job anon.
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>>154870503
I like how using a mod to get rid of the shitty dialogue wheel effectively highlights how shitty the writing was in this game.
But I guess that's what you have to do to save time and money when your having the main protagonist be voiced.
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>>154870503
How else could they justify their shitty purchase and devotion to Todd the Deceiver
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>>154869868

I haven't seen this discussion, actually. Were people arguing that Fallout 4 was more railroaded in quest design than Fallout NV?

Of all the complaints to make about 4, I don't think even /cfog/ would make that one.
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>>154870851
Check the user's posting history, it worth a good chuckles or two

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/3y7h6l/congrats_new_vegas_fans_you_made_someone_who/
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>>154870851

Fallout 4 does a lot of things NV did, only in a more halfhearted way.

There's multiple factions to choose from, but you basically learn everything you need to know about them within the first 5 minutes of their introduction

There's generic NPCs, but none of them have any commentary on the goings on of the wasteland.

There's fleshed out companions, but only a few of them have personal questlines and the companion wheel is STILL absent.

And so on.
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Prime reason why bethdrones and fallout kiddies hated the shit outta NV:

I was finally convinced to at least give the game a proper chance, and promptly discovered that I just had to get out of Goodsprings. I don't know why but it really wasn't my kind of town.
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>>154870147
>reads two lines and declares the redditor wrote something he didn't

It's a terrible feeling to see your own position defended so badly.
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>>154870987
And now I'm mad. Awesome
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>>154870987
His family is kind of fucked up.
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>>154871209
?
The tldr is at the end senpai. The anger in the dude's post comes through pretty clearly, which makes his whole snobby Brown shtick at the end seem kind of hypocritical.
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>>154871764
>The anger in the dude's post comes through pretty clearly
Obviously not to you since you didn't read it and put words in his mouth
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>>154871587
>>154871701
It's a kid in a dysfunctional family that really really like Bethesda and he intent to make sure everybody know about it
Honestly it's pretty sad now that I think about it
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>>154871764

His post doesn't state that Todd is Godd by any means. In fact, he says that New Vegas is his favourite Fallout.
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>>154871092
And the new dialogue system means I can't turn in that goddamn quest to Danse.
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>>154862809
>cass without cheekbones

delete
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>>154871940
>>154872027
Oh please, as if this post isn't anything more than free shilling to dumb down NV in comparison to his wondrous and glorious FO4

Have some more quotes from the same ledditor if it's bothered you so much:
>Hey! Don't make fun of New Vegas you big meanie! It's not Obsidian's fault that they agreed to a time frame that they couldn't handle! It's all Bethesda's fault!/s
>Whether or not you like Fallout 4, you can't deny that the DLCs have added the framework to perfect the new features in the next title
>Consider the fact that Myron is someone who literally tries to rape you if you're female. Is he really the most reliable person when he says "I made this"?

I this kid doesn't have a fucking altar with Todd's face on it then I will eat my own balls
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>>154863420
>Graham doesn't go to bone city with the tribal babes
What kind of mormon do you think he is?
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I really like this comment
>"Fallout 4 has no minor factions.
None.
In Vegas, there's the Khans, the Boomers, Fiends, Powder Gangers, the Legion itself, divisions of the NCR, the ghouls at the science place, Super Mutants holed up on their mountain, and a half-dozen small towns with genuine personality (Novac, Goodsprings, Primm, the various New Vegas suburbs, plus war-ruined locations like Boulder City and some Legion-stomped towns further south). Oh, don't forget the tribals who got cleaned up and run casinos on the strip. And the Van Graffs. And the Gun Runners. And the Crimson Caravan. The Brotherhood is around too. Civilization is a reality, power struggles are visible and frequent, and the depredations of the Legion are both evident and consequential."
Found it in response to the railroading Todd loving redditor
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>>154872435

I know you lack the patience to read anything of length, so I'll say this as plainly as possible: you seem like a very bitter person prone to black and white thinking, and you seem inordinately eager to assume that anyone that holds an opinion even incidentally contrary to yours holds all of your most despised opinions.

I think, for your own sake, you should examine your level of anger and aggression towards people you've never met and really evaluate if it's a healthy way of living your life.
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>>154872928
cant believe I fucked that greentext up
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>>154872928

This reddit thread has some pretty good discussion, actually. I wish /cfog/ could discuss Fallout NV and 4 this maturely.
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>>154872435
I have a rant on my website that was flooded with several people like you, it's kind of a shame I can't have actual discussions without somebody getting extremely offended for no reason and going off on me without truly knowing where I'm coming from.
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>>154872928
That one Vault where you get Curie is kind of a faction, and you could argue Goodneighboer is a faction similar to Novac, but ya I think I see your point
The lack of a reputation system in Fallout 4 is just disgusting too.
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>>154872972
You are quick to come to the assumption that I'm bitter as hell over the fact that people have opposing opinions to mine and that all of my posts are me wailing around in anger.
I'm not, I find this kid's shilling hilarious and intent to keep this thread alive by spamming it. Also tough talk for living a healthy life when you and I are both shitposters on a 4chan general about an old-ass game with no potential sequel in the foreseeable future
>>154873229
What do you mean you don't enjoy shitposting non-stop 24/7
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>>154873290
Except I didn't go off on you? I was reasserting that the leddit kid is clearly a shill and whatnot
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>>154872928
What's great about NV is that for raiders, there's fiends, vipers, jackals and scorpions. In Bethesda's fallouts they're just "RAIDERS"
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>>154873465
Is reading comprehension not your best skill or...?
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>>154873568
What is the point you're trying to make here? This whole going back and forth could easily have been resolved if you just fucking state the problem you're having instead of being a lil bitch
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>>154873718
>ad hominem
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>>154873896
I'm genuinely disappointed, what could have been a potential 3-pages long bitching turned out to be nothing more than bait for some (You)s
You sure got me there
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>>154867356
It's like movie theater popcorn. It's kind of tasty, but you'll forget about it right after consumption. I like it better than 4, though.
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DID ANYONE TRY THIS YET AND DOES IT WORK? HOLY SHIT
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>>154873481
In New Vegas we do see some unique raiders at certain locations, namely the Forged.
Also Gunners are effectively just raiders with a different name.
Which kind of sucks, gunners should have been a minor faction that you could interact with.

Also the DLC rectifies this somewhat by adding those Robot loving raiders in autamotron, and the three gangs in Nuka World
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>>154874298
Pretty cool, but isn't that free Fallout app from Beth the same gimmicky thing?
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>>154874298
>being excited about a gimmick
lmao
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It's that time again, post your raifu
>No energy meme allowed
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Didn't Black Isle completely lose the rights to Fallout because Brian Fargo or whoever broke the terms of the agreement or something?
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>>154875987
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Really wish a consistant thread like this existed for The Elder Scrolls, it's criminal that when you're an Elder Scrolls fan you get lumped into disgusting porn fetishists and waifu scum. smdh.
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>>154875987
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>>154875987
best gun for snippity sniping rascals and unarmored varmints
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>>154875987
>12.7 meme
>>154876289
Petition for an Elder Scrolls lore thread with the mods, call it /teslore/ or something
Also:
>you get lumped into disgusting porn fetishists and waifu scum
>expect any game made by beth isn't swarmed with trash waifu drones
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>>154876289
In my experience of frequenting the Fire Emblem and Senran Kagura generals, among others, I can say that /cfog/ is one of the best generals on /vg/ in terms of quality of discussion.
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BREAKING NEWS
>Mojave Man survives two bullets, beds the shooter
>Mojave Man gets fisted by robot prostitute
>Mojave Man helps solicit prostitute ring for local club
More at eleven, let's go over to Josh for sports news
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>>154875987
I won
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they do have some nice back and forth over there, I'll give them that.
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>>154877520
Give it a rest and go back to shitpostan dude
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>>154825943
That makes it even funnier, they didn't pick the fatties just because they were doing Bethesda Fallout cosplay, no, they needed to create a flesh wall to hide the fact they had nothing to do with an actually good game.
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>>154840624
>Josh, on the other hand, literally can tell no lies,
He really is the anti-Todd
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>>154875987
>hating on energy weapons
Hey local, shouldn't you be banging rocks together or something?
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>>154878003
Our lord and saviour
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>>154877789
ok fine but I don't have to be happy about it
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>>154878150
You will be after a mind-numbing amounts of shitposts
>>154878089
>plasma
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>>154878089
Enjoy hitting a moving foe with your turtle gun
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>>154873229
Can't find the thread. Could you link it?
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Havent played fallout 3, what's wrong with Operation Anchorage? Does lore rape the Battle for Anchorage?
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>>154873308
It has sort of a dumbed-down rep system.
What I'm mad at is no karma system. I think I may be more mad at its removal than that of skills.

>>154876289
Look up the weekend TES lore thread on /tg/.
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>>154878869
See >>154870987
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>>154879023
Karma was bad, though. Pretty much everyone agreed on that.
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>>154879095
Thanks fampai.
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>>154879101
Don't care what everyone thinks, I liked karma. It's sensible to me that doing good things makes people think of you as a good dude, and vice versa. Now, when karma triggers could definitely be overhauled, but karma itself makes sense.
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>>154879415
This is accomplished by reputations. You do good things for a faction and they see you as an ally.
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>>154879258
I aim to please your mom
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>>154878949
>I'm going to kill you so much
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>>154879023
I know about that, but that's why I used the word "consistant" I don't wanna have to tune in, or whatever, I want it to always be there.
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why hasnt there been a fallout movie
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>>154859032
Second and third videos were actually pretty good. First is a mixed bag though.
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>>154872928
I always assumed about the second point that the ten-year-old Shawn from the memory was a synth.
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>>154880042
Theres been several fan ones, that's not enough?

An official one licensed by Bethesda would probably be terrible anyway
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>>154880042
Because it would rely on a set character doing set things, and go against the relative open ended nature of the series.

Also >>154880202
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>>154879534
This. They should have implemented things from NV instead of just making a whole new framework for their game.
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>>154880150
I assumed this too, although it does raise the question "Why is Kellog taking care of a synth?"
and of course the obvious answer to that question is there is no why
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>>154878949

No, for two reasons: first, we didn't have a boatload of information on Anchorage to draw from, and two, a terminal outside of the simulation states that General Constantine kept meddling in the project's development until the simulation bore only the slightest resemblance to the real thing.
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>>154880150

Of course it is, X6-88 shows up at the end of the memory.
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>>154880518
>"Why is Kellog taking care of a synth?"
That's literally what happened, Shaun is the one who figured out how to make gen 3 synths, from his own DNA even.
Agree with there being no why tho.
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>>154880042
do you really want one?
With how bad Bethesda is to the lore, do you think holly wood execs would be better?
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>>154881129
>Bethesda licenced Fallout movie
>Dude Nuka-Cola references lmao
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>>154866408
You encounter him in a small shack or farm later on. There's a grave on the property, and a journal describing their numerous attempts to get married as he promised her before the war

You could note during the wedding that for a feral ghoul she's surprisingly calm in a cathedral, and suggest a glimmer of understanding in her eyes
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>>154881375
Perfect.
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>>154824271
How hard would a total conversion mod to set NV in 4's engine be?
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>>154882234
It's possible, but extremely difficult since it's a completely new version of the creation engine.
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>>154882234
LOOPING
RELOADS
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>>154882685
?
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>>154882767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjH4s06XXQY
Because Gamebyro is complete ass, Obsidian had to basically jury rig the engine to support looping reloads (shotguns, lever action-rifles, anything that loads one round at a time, this is still glitchy in-engine, looping reload weapons tend to get stuck in VATS and have wonky reloads and animations)

Fallout 4 does support looping reloads, I'm usre you've see that webm of the lever rifle. You'd completely have to rebuild something Bethesda itself was too fucking lazy to do, even if Obsidian previous managed to get it working (to a degree)
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>>154883085
Looping reloads aren't in 4. If you interrupt the reload, your ammo isn't replenished, and the amount of ammo you insert is always equal to the ammo capacity of the gun, not the amount of ammo needed.
Unless my version of 4 got fucked somehow.
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>>154883085
>Fallout 4 does support looping reloads
does not, I mean
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>>154883085
>Obsidian had to basically jury rig the engine...

I did wonder why this was the case. Fucking Bethesda, man.
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>>154883667
>ulysses is a helmet
Everything Bethesda touches turns to garbage.

>>154883632
>>154883625 here, thanks for clarifying.
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>>154883667
Gamebryo wasn't built as an fps engine, as such it's hard to do certain fps things.
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>>154883841
Fuck was it built as.

>>154883085
Haven't seen the webm.
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>>154884093
Morrowind
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would you recommend Tales of Two Wastelands to play 3?
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>>154884308
only if you're like me and it doesn't work or crashes every 5 minutes even with patches, INI edits and the 3-4 gb RAM patch
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>>154884308
nah, New Vegas is it's own thing and so is Fallout 3, Mixing em together is just dumb
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Some anon recommended age of decadence some threads back

I just want to say I'm getting my ass kicked so hard that I have two buttcheeks growing out of my crotch
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>>154885459
hahahah, le difficult game, lol, lmao
>so hard XD LMAO
Hahahahaha us Hardcore gamers am I right?
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>>154885629
wow this is some cancer right here friend
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>>154875987
>No energy
fine

the 45-70 revolver rifle mod then
>>154862402
>he doesn't use the best cass mod
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>>154883085
Why is Joshua Sawyer so moe?
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>>154886528
>No cute flannel shirt
>Best mod
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>>154887075
it got turned into her bra in that one
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>>154887419
Cass seems like the type not to wear a bra. I always imagine her as just wearing an oversized flannel shirt and panties when she's chilling.
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>>154886528
>>154887419
>>154887501
CASS IS NOT FOR LEWD!
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Did /fog/ get bored and come here or...?

Can't yall just get a girlfriend or something?
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>>154887771
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>>154875987
I-i'm not an energy weapon, right?
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>>154888057
Energy weapons are the best.
You do want to be a part of the master race don't you?
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>>154887970
>You will never be this pathetic
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>>154888213
Feels good, man.
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>>154888284
>you will never be a janitor for /fog/ and delete all the /fog/ crossposts
Feels bad man
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>>154888410
I don't mind the occasional bit of waifu posting, but only when it pertains to actual characters. I got sick of /tesg/'s constant modded waifu screenshots.
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>>154878420
>>154878617
That's a laser RCW, geniuses.
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>>154888573
>I don't mind the occasional bit of waifu posting
Fuck off then, creep
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>>154888641
Maybe my standards are just lower, but why are you such a fucking puritan? It's not like Fallout didn't have sexual humour or references in the past games.
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Fallout New Vegas Quest Mods?
(I already have Bounties and Coito Ergo Sum)
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>>154889113
There's a difference between sexual humor, tasteful sexual moments in fiction, and being a fucking creep, idiot.
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>>154887501
>Cass seems like the type not to wear a bra.

I doesn't have to "seem" that way, she's clearly not in her vanilla outfit.
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>>154889226
Bison Steve casino is pretty chill
Decent voice acting and lore friendly.

Just ignore the bullshit player house that appears later on.
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>>154878420
>>154878617
Laser RCW from EVE, not plasma.

On that note though plasma spaz with Sawyer's Mod is GOAT.
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>>154889226
None are really good in my eyes, but I have very high standards when it comes to quest mods...

Literally the only mod author that has ever captured my heart in that regard, is Kris Takahashi, absolute excellent quality stuff, if you have Fallout 3 I highly recommend this
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/21361/?
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>>154888057
technically, all the firearms and explosives use kinetic energy and chemical reactions
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>>154889579
>On that note though plasma spaz with Sawyer's Mod is GOAT.
Sawyer Plasma Spaz doesn't change a whole lot. Most of the plasma weapons either have a really fast firing rate already or really slow so the boost is very small (because an additional %20 of 1 second rate is still slow)
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>>154889763
Sawyer's Mod also raises plasma projectile speed though.
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>>154890034
didn't remember that.
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>>154889226
Deserter's Fortress and Blood by the Dollar are some pretty good combat quest mods. If you have CES and Bounties, then I'm assuming you wouldn't mind sillier mods like Milkman.
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>>154889579
>Finger mashing the stimpack hotkey furiously
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>>154889579
I'm sick and tired of you sick bastards killing Raiders.
Raiders are people too
#Raiderlivesmatter
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>>154826110
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Daily reminder, Bethesda > Obshittian
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHdDjdTpN3c
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>>154892209
I will never understand how Skyrim got such high acclaim despite that horrible launch, and how it generally wasn't a good game for it's time.

I can't even play that game nowadays because it aged so freakin' poorly, I don't count mods as part of a game either, but even with mods Skyrim aged poorly, I'd rather play Oblivion
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>>154869871
>the ripper design is essentially the same they just made it look more ergonomic
It looks to me the old ripper was an electric knife, rather than chainsaw sword
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>>154859547
Delete this.
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>>154892575
Memes?

It's like how Fallout 3 got praised for the storytelling equivalent of sniffing glue and shit.
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>>154889226
Autumn Leaves, my biggest complaint is the ridiculous amount of typos in dialogue, and that finishing it all at once gets boring, so do it in pieces if fetch questing around great dialogue is getting boring
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>>154892575
Pandering to the player character
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>>154826110
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>>154892209
>FNV is an old screencap
>F4 is cropped so you can't see the user reviews
I know it's bait but those things made me smile.
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>>154892209
I wonder if Bioware will ever stray away from high fantasy games and go a post apocalyptic route.
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>>154893461
Patrolling Tuchanka almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
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>>154893461
They did.
It's called Fallout 4
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>>154876935
>Mojave Man helps a religious cult of ghouls go into outer space
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>>154876935
>In other news, The Legion continue to whoop that NCR ass with the conquering of Nipton, will the Mojave ever recover? More news at 11
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Who remembers Goris from fallout 2?
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>>154895480
Why does he wear the robe?
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>>154894681

I hope you feel really silly right now.
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>>154895561
He's a big lizard
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>>154878089
Is there a version of that APA mod that had better looking legs?
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I'm trying to buy a weapon from that dyno trader in Novac, but it doesn't appear in my inventory.
Is that a bug? I'm playing vanilla NV.
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>>154896301
What exactly are you trying to buy?
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>>154896517
Caravan shotgun in poor condition for repairing my own.
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>>154896662
That's strange, thought it might be something weird with That Gun. if you don't already have it get YUP, might help you out.

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/51664/?
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>>154896662
Items with similar conditions sometimes bug out and it appears as if you have only one in your inventory.

Can you try repairing see if the other Caravan Shotgun is in there?
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Why does licensed music of Fallout dwell so much on Swing/Jazz/Cowboy Ballads?
what if it incorporated period Folk and Bluegrass?
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>>154896272
That's a custom job based on the APA you're talking about, precisely because the legs were dumb
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>>154897142
I dropped my shotgun on the ground and bought one in a shitty condition. In my inventory it appears fully repaired for some reason.
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>>154892209
>(((Metactritic)))
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>>154892993
No
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I'm glad to see you're awake. I was beginning to wonder if I had to suck you off to get you conscious.
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Rollin a character
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>>154889325
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Is there a way to see all your character stats in fnv? Critical chance for example.
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>>154903064
theres some Hud mods that do that but I don't use them because they clutter up the screen
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>See Beyond Boulder Dome mod
>reskinned Tunneler enemies look like something out of Detroit
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Would you?
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Does anyone have the video mentioned earlier of the ranger cosplay being covered up at e3?
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>>154906710
put on the cross?
hell yeah
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>>154906710
>implying the legion hasn't ran a train on her
then again they mount each other as much as they do their women
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>>154906710
>dem lips
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>>154906710
That's a girl... right?
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Damn Vegas, tf is wrong with you. Open spaces - 60 to 80~ fps, my pc aint that good. Nipton - drop down to 40~. Okay, my cpu aint that good. Repcon with all the ghouls 30 fps.... Wait what? How do i fix this shit, its retarded
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>>154908650
Get a better CPU.
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>>154865194
>that fucking face
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>>154908628
>legionfag questioning their sexuality
What a surprise.
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>>154908681
Recommended is something like e7400, its 2 core 2.8 ghz, what cpu do i need to play 6 year old game?
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I just bought the original Fallout, and for w/e reason I can't figure out Fixt.

>always crashes on startup
>"display mode incompatible"
>adjusting display through the app or config
>tried 800x650 and 1600x1050
>display incompatibility message always followed by a memory error consisting of only zeros.

What would I have to put up with if I ran vanilla? What would I miss out on? Is it worth it? Should I keep trying?
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>>154869976
they don't NEED to eat.

Stimulating their metabolic system with actual food makes them less feral.

If they only feed from rads their brains just rot and get eaten by cancer.
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>>154906710
I love her nearly as much as I love Caesar
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>>154908796
Recommended specs mean nothing. The game runs at 30fps on consoles so those specs could be recommended for achieving 30fps for all you know.

So get a better CPU if you don't want to drop below 60.
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>>154908973
but open spaces 60 to 80...................
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>>154909027
NPCs are CPU intensive.
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>>154909060
but damn i already get a better cpu, i was running on like e3200. Believe me, you dont want to play on this.
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>>154878116
this image makes my penis grow
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>>154908850
Problem, the guy giving food was giving it to ferals.
The guy talking how they dont need food is refering to a NORMAL ghoul stuck in a fridge for 200 hundred years.
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>>154910059
Oh. the fridge-kid.

Yeah. that was stupid. But it goes in the "Joke-encounter" category.

Also its the only ghoul kid we know about.
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>>154908850
>>154869976
>>154870147

ghouls still like to eat, and it seems to vary from ghoul to ghoul how much they "need" to eat. overall it seems like they prefer to eat but can go without

when you talk to harland in the repconn test facility basement he mentions "I still need to eat you know . . . at least I think I do" after he says something about eating radroaches, and there are radroach corpses and plates etc. in the corner of the room. I think various ghouls in the franchise have also said something like this including Raul and Gob from fallout 3 but I don't remember the specifics. Gob comments about how he has to pay Moriarty for room and board

there are a lot of things to hate about the turd that is fallout 4 but t.b.h. I don't think ghouls eating is some kind of glaring inconsistency. the truth is probably more like ghouls don't technically need to eat in general, but how eating feels differs wildly from ghoul to ghoul. some might be fine never eating while some still want to but wouldn't die if they didn't"
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>>154910169
>>154910151
Saying that normal ghouls dont need to eat but should is all fair and good, and I can look past the fridge kid, but why would ferals need to eat if they sustain purely from radiation?
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>tfw even regular /fog/ is realizing that new vegas is better than 4
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>>154880042


There was going to be one, headed by interplay itself

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_film_treatment

Reminder that Interplay was ready to run fallout into the ground in so much more worse ways than bethesda has so far
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What mechanics would be a good idea to balance out a Super Mutant character type and Ghoul type? I already think Ghoul pertains more CHR,less strength due to muscle tissue damage, as well as a high INT stat due to character age.Mutant? 10 STR,2 AGL,up to 6 INT to represent the god tier 1st gen Mutants plus a lower LCK stat.
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>>154910169
>tfw when you free Gob and Nova by blowing up Colin via 3 plasma mines next to his bed

I literally couldn't stop laughing at the "Critical Strike on Colin Moriarty" notification.
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>>154824271
I just made a bunch of traits.

Install ONE OF THE .esp FILES

Please try them out and tell me what you think.

http://www43.zippyshare.com/v/tH0r2krW/file.html
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>>154910287

Speaking of the fridge kid, there's a mod on the nexus that's all about fixing lore discrepancies

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12019/?

The dude's idea to fix the fridge quest is to give everybody involved in it a synth component
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>>154911793
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>>154911892
>>154911793
Indeed, why not just nuke that whole plot line
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>>154911531
Is this compatible with this More Traits? I'll give it a go next run if so.

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/35979/
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>>154912174
it should be compatible with everything.

all i did was add more stuff from the vanilla game. then i had to tweak some scripts involving rebuilding your character after leaving Goodsprings area and OWB's autodoc character rebuild option and manually add them so they will be properly removed if you select rebuild.

the only thing that might interfere is if by coincidence there are more than one trait sharing the same ID.
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>>154911359

Ghouls tend to be very hardy if they survive at all, but only if they're able to soak in radiation. I'd spec the ghoul for higher perception/intelligence, lower strength and endurance, and barrel-scraping charisma. For maximum accuracy, I'd invert the radiation gain stat debuffs into buffs, but mod it so that ghouls lose rads outside of irradiated areas. That way the gameplay is oriented around returning to rad hotspots.

For super mutants... if you're talking properly dipped mutant, their stats are going to be unfair. They're good at everything. The downsides should be everyone trying to kill them, really, but that'd kind of break the game.
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>>154911359
Super Mutants are fast bro.

I would say maybe their PER or CHR is really low.
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Let's talk Enclave.

So, our sole tidbit of Enclave info is that of Richter in Far Harbor. His squad was on recon, 'capitol region' (implying they are doing recon in other regions, and were/are concerned with more than just the Capitol Wasteland). He ended up deserting after a long-term scouting mission 'up north' (bearing in mind this is from Far/Bar Harbor) went bad when they were hunting for a reserve of fusion cores.

Sadly, that's where the 'hopeful' info ends, as from what he says, they 'called' themselves the Enclave, and 'were' a force to be reckoned with, but now... (he trails off). He could just have deserted a couple of years after FO3 and be talking that way because he burned bridges, but I really don't like the sound of it.

How will we make America great again, one Enclave, if Bethesda decide they are done? I mean, I'm not going to take the short and vague words of a cultist who was a mere Lietunant to a stranger as being gospel on the state of the overall Enclave, but he doesn't fill me with hope.

That said, it is pretty contradictory. If they are still a big enough presence to have recon squads that need defining by entire fucking regions of the US mainland, and were still doing recon years after FO3 (remember, the Children of Atom were a tiny cult operating out of Megaton in FO3, in no position to save him. This has to have happened some time around NV), that still sounds like their presence is rather solid... somewhere. Perhaps the Chicago area?
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>>154912841
>brotherhood/enclave war 2.0
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>>154912841
I wholeheartedly doubt the entirety of the Enclave existed in the Oil Rig and Raven Rock. They're probably spread (albeit thinly) across the entire United States consolidating their assets.

I doubt Bethesda would get rid of them for good, especially if the best they can come up with is the Institute.
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>>154912981

B-but Maxson is ded in 2/4 endings. They are never referencing him again except in past tense. The Brotherhood is heavily declining in the West, and in the East likely just had their 'King Arthur' go 'missing' on his quest. It's time for the dream of Camelot to crumble, if they tell the tale properly.

>A few Enclave officers and Scribes throwing stones at each other over a bottle of water in a dustbowl.
>Brotherhood/Enclave war 2.0.
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>>154913106

I agree. I'm not actually as down on some of what Richter said as I imply. I'm just so fucking happy to hear they still have recon squads that work off entire regions of the continent post-FO3. It basically confirms exactly what you say, as some of us have been saying for a while.

Sure i would have liked an actual presence, but this is better than nothing.

Pairing it with the Chicago outpost reference in New Vegas, we at least know they have a presence in one major ruined city, and are still actively doing recon. They are at least as 'healthy' as the Brotherhood, even if that's not a particularly high bar.
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>>154913325
I wonder...

Will the Enclave outpost in Chicago take the same route as the Midwestern Brotherhood?
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>>154913441

I think it's getting to the point for them that they will have no choice. Hell, even Autumn (who may or may not be still alive, remember) seemed to be heading that way if they had won the Purifier.

Sustaining 'pure' humanity is likely no longer a possibility for them. They have been too long outside sealed environments and even if they are still massive (in the thousands), they are likely too few in number to maintain themselves as a relevant organization in the wasteland.

The best they can do is stay true the the ideal of restoring America and humanity, as pure as they can realistically keep it while having to bring in and breed with groups like the Boomers and ex-Vault Dwellers or even Brotherhood, with their usual style and glory.

What Autumn wanted basically was the Enclave version of the Mid-Western Brotherhood. A military state built on a resource.

The 'traditional' ideal of purging all mutants so pure humanity seemed to die with the Rig and EDEN.
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>>154913441

We may never know. If Obsidian do another game, they seem to be done with the Enclave, if the Remnants are anything to go by. Bethesda seem to be holding of for maybe another decade before the next Fallout, though they do know a lot of fans hoped to see the Enclave, but who knows whether they will do anything with them.

We might have to be happy with the knowledge they are still out there, and tidbits of info.

>Being an Enclave diehard is suffering. i wish of Was a Brotherhood fan instead. They get all the spotlight. Fucking traitorous muties.
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>>154914112
>tfw you just wanna soldier with your bros in power armor but have to settle for being a tech hoarder or profligate instead

Fuck this gay earth
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>>154911075
They were but no one here cares because it's all about running Bethesda down to teach them pesky bethdrones a lesson
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>>154914112
I am not looking forward to what Bethesda does with this idea, if they ever try to take a crack at it.

>We might have to be happy with the knowledge they are still out there, and tidbits of info

Sadly, you may be right.
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>>154889579
Is that anime kill?
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>>154915279

I dunno, I think we can all agree that Interplay in its last days was far worse than bethesda will ever

Bethesda didn't turn fallout into a punk teen's wet dream with Brotherhood of Steel with scantily clad female characters and energy drink product placement and zero RPG elements

Pic related, it's actual 'concept art' made for the main female character.
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>>154915467
They'll be fine they just need a stimpak
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>>154915610
Nice.
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>>154915610
>a punk teen's wet dream with Brotherhood of Steel with scantily clad female characters and energy drink product placement
I don't see what's wrong with this.
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>>154915693

More where that came from

This lady's the leader of a raider gang

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Jane_(Fallout:_Brotherhood_of_Steel)
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>>154915610
>>154915762
They should just make a real Nuka Cola Quantum energy drink already. With real strontium 90 in it.
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>>154915610
I agree completely, they were turning out far worse than the shit bethesda has given us
But this place has gotta be reactionary to all the 12 year olds on youtube who disagree with them and think NV sucked because they're retarded, so they gotta shitpost here to counter them somehow
Hense why they only care about bethesdas bad points
also because bethesda is now, interplay is dead (thank fuck for that right?)
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>>154915880

We can always look back at how shit Interplay ended up

Here's ANOTHER piece of official 'concept art'
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>>154915467

It's better than what happens to her in other pictures. I mean, that's a pretty typical ending to raider scum at the hands of an Enclave player. More or less clean justice. There are other pictures that show other 'ends' she might have met at the hands of your typical mutie scum player character.
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>I was a dam builder
>Across the river deep and wide
>Where steel and water did collide
>A place called Boulder on the wild Colorado
>I slipped and fell into the wet concrete below
>They buried me in that great tomb that knows no sound
>But I am still around
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>>154863329
Homo sapiens urbanus more specifically
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>>154916056
>hey look it's a guy that looks like a mechanized satan
>better charge him with a combat knife
Anime was foolish Mechasatan just wanted to liberate humanity from muties.

>>154916151
>I was a sailor
>I was born upon the tide
>With the sea I did abide
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>>154916368
>I sailed a schooner round the horn to mexico
>I went aloft and furled the mainsail in a blow
>And when the yards broke off they said I got killed
>but I am living still...
What a song, I need to implement it in NV
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>>154916056
>>154889579

What a cutie. I wonder how her uterus tastes.
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>>154912841
the BOS gets more pre-war resources and Data every Year. With P.A.M they just have to pick up most of the Objects they need. +they got all the state of the art tech from the Enclave.

So, lets say the Brotherhood wins. The Minutemen might be allowed to exist since they just protect farms from raiders. Saves the BOS the trouble of actually protecting people.

The East-Coast BOS is already powerful enough to make the NCR nervous. They don't have the numbers yet. But if they continue recruiting from the Wasteland, and if they reconnect with the west-coast Chapters, this might lead to a massive War between the NCR and the BOS.

And we barely know if there are other big factions like the NCR.
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>>154917067
I like the Idea of the BOS having groups like Regulators and Minutemen as Auxiliary/Police around while the Brotherhood itself presents the Military.
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>>154829530
Raul
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>>154917067
>Massive scale war between BoS and NCR
>Revitalized Enclave comes in near the end and sweeps the two weakened factions and are regarded as the Wasteland's heroes
Fund it
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>>154916536
>>154916368
>>154916151
>tfw born too late to rob baubles from young maids
>tfw born too late to sail a schooner to mexico
>tfw born too late to help build hoover dam
>tfw born too early to explore the universe
A-at least I can post memes and contemplate suicide
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>>154917272
>NCR using soviet-like Horde tactics.

>BOS has the good tech and organisation, fights more like the Germans.

>Organised Raider and Mercenary Factions attack both factions in gorilla-warfare.


Give the Red Orchestra creators the license and lets get Bethesda its first good multiplayer.
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>>154917385
>trusting tripwire any more
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>>154917280
Don't be a memer anon, you were born at the perfect time to btfo jihadiots.
Besides, suicide is for the weak. You do want to be strong don't you?
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>>154917280
Join some Terrorists. Get trained. Then Sabotage them from within. Become their boogeyman.
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>>154917067
>Lets discuss the Enclave.
>Proceeds to gloat over the spotlight that has been on the Brotherhood in Fallesda.

O-okay.
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>>154912841


Was the Legion even mentioned in Fo4? I know the Railroad companion randomly drops Info about the west.. but that's all.

>>154917881
Even if we keep the Fo4 stuff out, the Brotherhood is getting really Powerful.
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>>154829530
Arcade.
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>>154917973
I don't think the Legion or the NCR are mentioned much at all, Deacon might have a line or two mentioning them but that's about it.
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>>154917973

I respect Bethesda for not giving any concrete answers as to what went down in the mojave; leave that to obsidian

but then they go on about how there's an alien spaceship buried underneath it.
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>>154918141
Kellogg literally has an entire backstory on how he was raised in NCR territory, and then his room has NCR money and some useless new vegas clutter, unless that's a mod I'm not aware of
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>>154918276

> and then his room has NCR money and some useless new vegas clutter, unless that's a mod I'm not aware of

That's Wasteland Imports, AKA literally the best mod on the Nexus right now
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>>154918262
That is such bullshit I literally couldn't stop laughing when that shitty quest ended. lmaooo
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>>154918276
Oh yeah, they do mention he's from NCR territory in that one mission but that's about it. That NCR money and New Vegas stuff must have been from a mod because I never saw that shit.
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>>154917973

The West was mentioned and referenced quite a bit, from the NCR and Shi in Kellog's memories and him being a West-Coaster, to the Hubologists in Nuka World. Maxson himself, despite being in FO3, is a walking reference.

I don't think the Legion is mentioned at all though.

We actually don't really know how powerful the Brotherhood is getting, sadly. All all talk of DC is vague, aside from it still being pretty dangerous. All we know is that they have found a cache of T-60 and some older models of Vertibirds since FO3, as well as re-uniting with the Outcasts. They seem to be doing well enough, certainly well enough to be the primary thing to fear for the Institute, but we just don't have enough info. We hear little to nothing about the West Coast BoS aside from the fact Arthur has their seal of approval and Lost Hills is still there as of '88.

In fact, that's something we share about the Brotherhood and Enclave. We just don't know the overall states of their organizations.
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NEW ORLEANS
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>>154920804
IS
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>>154920870

REAL!
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>>154920870

NEW ORLEANS
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>>154920781
The Outcast's armor is sexy as fuck, even if it is just edgelord colors they pull it off better than most.
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>>154920870
NEXT FALLOUT!
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>>154921124
I think it's gorgeous.
Makes me sad the Outcast Recon Armour never showed up in game without mods because the data is there, it's just that no one was scripted to wear it.
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Did we ever get an explination of why Autumn was just a Colonel? I mean, in the (modern) army there are five ranks of General after that.

I wonder if this ties into there being more Enclave elsewhere, with EDEN just happening to be installed in Raven Rock, and Autumn being the military commander of that particular base.
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>>154921416
Or maybe they picked it because they knew nobody would pick up on it and because it sounds cooler
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>>154921416
Colonel could be the highest military rank in the Enclave, since we do see two colonels but never anything higher other than the President and Vice President.

It could be that they did away with these ranks entirely, or maybe the President acts as a general as well.
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>>154921486
>>154921796

So... no, we didn't get an explanation. You fellas may be right, but it's just speculation without something to back it up.
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Why does the legion hate drugs and booze?
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>>154924591
Because drugs are for degenerates.
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>>154924591
Because drugs are for losers, didn't you see the after-school special?
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>>154921486
>bethesda following 'rule of cool'
I can see it.
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>>154924740
Isn't fucking men in their assholes supposed to be degenerate as well?
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>>154925867
Clearly, you're no trve patrician.
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>>154925867
Extremely degenerate, I'm just saying the Legion is right about drugs being for degenerates even though they may be hypocrites.
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>>154926080
Well Bacchus/Dionysus thinks you're a feget
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>>154925867

Guys are cute, anon.
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>>154925867
So what?
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>>154916008
>>154915610

Interplay was just the publisher, while black isle was the monkey that danced. They did Tactics and BoS with other people.

I'm interested in seeing how Zenimax would handle Fallout away from Bethesda now that you mention it. A lot of what BoS touches upon is uncannily similar to Fallout 3.
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>>154880042
Bethesda's probably waiting to be offered a Fallout 3 or 4 movie before they accept. Hence why their stuff is like a Diet Fallout game with a "cinematic" storyline.
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>mfw Mysterious Broadcast
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Er, Vegas modding question for the knowledgeable. Why the hell can't I give Christine hair? I see nothing in the head parts that would stop the drop-down menu of hair choices from working.

For that matter, why doesn't she have any eyebrows, either? Those it will let me add, but it seems odd that she didn't have any. Without them it's hard to tell she is a brunette.

Planning to keep her on as a companion and waifu her, but I want her to grow her hair as time progresses, through me going into the GECK occasionally.
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>>154865194
What in the god damn?
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I'm incredibly disappointed in how few straight dudes you can fuck in FNV. My femcourier is practically celibate. I miss New Reno.
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>>154865194
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/images/40635/?
Of course it's from the nexus
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>>154927882
FUCK YOU
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>>154924591
Drugs are the main contributor to death and destruction in an environment. People lose self control and start doing things they would never do for drug money, they'll kill, steal, and put themselves to harm just so they can get their fix.

Not to mention it causes serious corruption, and underground groups to form in order to make illegal money.

This is one of the main reasons I like the Legion so much, illegal drugs are the most harmful thing to human beings and right out the gate they completely ban it, glorious.
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>>154927882
I think she has her own race, so you gotta add hair to her race.
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>>154928040
>No option to co-op with benny
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>>154928579
>illegal drugs
m8 they're legit only illegal because the legion made them illegal
that's how legality works
a well-regulated market is far more efficient and humane than the legion's zero-tolerance prohibition
the ncr isn't much better, but their society has far better mechanism for transitioning than the legion does
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>>154928579
kys mr mackey faggot
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>>154838810
>using the wrong graham companion mod
whew lad
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>>154928769
>>154928770
Just kill yourself, you're directly contributing to the degeneracy of mankind, die.
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>>154929047
kek true to caesar amirite /vg/ionbros?
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>>154928769
>drugs are okay

Just kill me, I am literally a man among monkeys...
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>>154928769
>>154928770
>delusional NCR-loving degenerates
remove
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>>154929047
>>154929190
lmao kys puritan fags
>muh subjective hypocritical degeneracy
>muh subjective moral code
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>>154928579
Some drugs have legitimate medical use which is why I can't fully agree with the Legion, but once it crosses over into abuse is when it becomes degenerate.
Those dependent on drugs are weak and must become strong and live without them or die from the chemicals they ingest. It's that simple.
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>>154928769
>DUDE WEED LMAO XDD
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>>154929047
>>154929353
>>154929158
>>154929190
Not an argument.
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>>154928991
Is there a better one than LegionaryH's? I'd happily switch.
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>romans loved getting fuckfaced
>DRUGS ARE BAD, HAIL CAESAR
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>>154929258
>hypocritical degeneracy
This is a pretty funny term.
Look, just because you lost your sense of self, doesn't mean you gotta try and delude others into thinking your way is the right way, just die, you have no worth other than feeding the drug dealers of the world, freak.

>>154929327
Humans have lived forever without using drugs, we weren't meant to use foreign substances to enhance us when our bodies are built in a way where we don't need them.

They're a crutch my friend, a crutch that should be banned in real life too. Unfortunately due to centuries of breeding humans exposed to drugs, now we have extremely defective and deformed human beings.
So it's too late, unless you were to weed these people out, but that's "inhumane" so we just gotta deal with it.
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>>154929568
>Humans have lived forever without using drugs
Holy shit how retarded are you
Do you literally know fucking nothing about history, DUDE WEED civilizations stretch back to the bronze age
pls be a shitposter and not just a complete jizzrag moron
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>>154929568
>Humans have lived forever without using drugs
Humans have used drugs throughout all of recorded history.
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>>154929456
He has a companion ammo .45 and the whippin' .45 as a melee weapon in that mod. Maybe his weapons got removed after entering a casino? it's a common bug
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>>154929753
>>154929695
>recorded history
>humans have lived for only 2000 years
wew
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Wow the legion is really showing off how cool it is
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>>154929764
>playing through HH
>Graham splits up to hunt down Salt-Upon-Wounds
>dumps his inventory when he leaves
>including his magical companion ammo
>get to the execution cutscene
>Graham can't shoot anyone
>have to go into the console to fix everything
Is there a patch for this? Happened all throughout HH.
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>>154929834
>>2000 years
The ancient Sumerians used opium in 5000 B.C.E. As soon as man could cultivate drugs, he used them.
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>>154929910
How in the fuck? I fixed that shit in 1.2, you sure you're using the right version?
I'd double check it but I don't have new vegas or the geck installed atm
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>>154927882
>Er
>Why the hell can't I give Christine hair?
>but it seems odd that she didn't have any.
>Planning to keep her on as a companion and waifu her
>I want her to grow her hair as time progresses

You seem like a fucking retard and you've got some fucking shit-ass taste.
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>>154930039
I was talking about generally. I don't have the Graham companion mod.
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>>154928441

What rustled your jimmies?

>>154928680

Thanks anon, sorted it.
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>>154930025
And we've been using alcohol longer than that
I'm just assuming they're legion shitposters trying to justify their poor faction choice
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>>154930192
Have we? I didn't think alcohol existed prior to grain.
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>>154930240
Or fermentation, rather.
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>>154930129
>>154929910
I had a friend who had this happen and we have the same load order, more or less, so I can see it happening to me too.
How'd you fix it?

He had to reload a save and just kill Graham then leave Zion.
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>>154929764
Okay, I see. Thanks for the heads up, and it's not like I can't just learn how to fix it in the GECK.
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>>154930350
I didn't "fix it" so much as I killed the two White Legs next him, used ~'enableplayercontrols', then spoke to Salt-Upon-Wounds. His dialogue is all you need to trigger the next part of the quest.
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>>154930129
>>154930350
Installing the companion mod should fix it for you. You can uninstall after if you don't want him as a companion ofc.
As for what I specifically did to fix that I have no idea, I made it ages ago.

>>154930427
Idk how he lost his companion weapons but doing a clean re-install of the mod should be an easy way to get them back. Just remember to dismiss him first obviously
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Eugh, that skin texture.
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>>154930192
Somehow that makes drugs okay right? All the people who have died, lost loved ones not to death but to addiction, all the people who have suffered because someone couldn't handle their dose?

The comfortable nature of drug use has inhibited humanity, you know the guy that could have cured cancer was probably addicted to weed and got lazy and decided to be a car mechanic instead.

And before you say ">addicted to weed" Yes, you can be addicted to things that don't have addictive materials in them. Just like you can be addicted to porn or videogames
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>>154930560
Thanks, I'll try that out.
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>>154930192
Friendly reminder that House or Legion are the only reasonable faction choices.
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>>154930335
>>154930240
iiirc wine was being made by armenians around 6000bc, there's other cases but I'm not fluent in the history of winemaking pre bronze age
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>>154930616
topkek
What about the rich as fuck people who loved nothing more than getting fucked off acid in the 60s?
You don't know shit, you're just trying to justify your puritanical shit ideals because boo hoo retards don't know their limits, lets blame substances instead of retards
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>>154930551
Right on, anon.
Thanks.
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So are there any decent legion armor overhauls that aren't Caesar's new regime? That shit is beyond lore-unfriendly.

>Female legion assassins
>Literally adds in the Resident Evil 4 merchant as a NPC
>The legion suddenly has a whole ironworks at their disposal
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>>154930707
This man knows.
I'm a Housefag, but the Legion is the only other acceptable choice.
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>>154930981
What are you looking for in an overhaul?
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Wow. Fucking wow. Christine is smoking after a trip into an Auto-Doc to fix those scars and growing her hair out.

I can see what Veronica saw in her.
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>>154931068

Just something that makes the legion armor a little more passable. I'm just not a huge fan of the dorky football skirts.

Shit, if there was a mod that gave them sleeves and trousers I'd be cool with that
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>>154930707
Anybody want to explain how House is any better than Independent? It's literally the same shit except you get to be in charge instead of a jerky man kept alive by machines.
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>>154931209
Some just don't like to be the man in charge.

Also, i want to go to space.
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>>154906710
Those lips.

Goddamn.
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>>154931209
>It's literally the same shit except you get to be in charge instead of a jerky man kept alive by machines.
Goddamn, you're fucking retarded.
It's not that way at all.
Sure, it similar in how you approach it, quest-wise and during the second battle of Hoover Dam, but just take a look at the ending slides, listen to what you've been told throughout the game.
You taking control of a bunch of robots and enforcing a state of anarchy is not the same as having a literal genius with plans to fix up his world just Vegas and get the fuck out to space to ensure humanity not only survives, it thrives.

Why are you even asking when you've clearly not even done a House playthrough to figure it out yourself?
Or are you just too stupid to pick it up on your own?
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>>154931209
House is a better leader than any Courier could possibly be, that's why.
Good luck getting dat tech without House's help.
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>>154931128
It doesn't even look like her.
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>>154930610
problem, smoothskin?
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>>154929568
>Humans have lived forever without using drugs
Alcohol has been around for all of recorded human history.
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>>154930335
While I can't tell you when this started, I know that it is possible to create alcohol from fermenting fruit, without grain. Simply storing and waiting as it spoils inside a container is enough to get the process started.
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>>154931615
>>154929568

And drugs have existed for longer than that.
Hell, marijuana is just a plant, same as tobacco.
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>>154931209
>le jergy man xD
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>>154931551
I assure you it is; just with hair (her own color, too) and the default face texture. This is what she looked like when she and Veronica were an item. Except she was probably still bald.

Amazing what hair, the Mojave lighting, and a lack of horrific scars can do.
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>>154931901
Fair enough, I just can't see it.

>Except she was probably still bald.
Yeah, she 'says' she shaves her own head.

>Amazing what hair, the Mojave lighting, and a lack of horrific scars can do.
And not being surrounded by the Cloud
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>>154932029
>And not being surrounded by the Cloud
The sierra madre is pretty in winter.
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>>154932029

Bald, but scar free.

I wonder why the wiki lists her eyes as blue, when they are clearly brown. Not even hazel.
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>>154932239
It really is, a lot more peaceful.
No pants-browning atmosphere either.
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>>154932308
She's pretty gross looking without all the scars.
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So I just finished Honest Hearts, and it wasn't very fun at all. I wasn't crazy about Dead Money, but it was a lot better than this in terms of story and atmosphere.

I liked this guy, though. I don't understand why he left me his clothes in a box at the end, but I do like the way my male character's butt looks in them.

Also, are the last two DLC better? I heard the base game was better than any of the DLC, so I haven't finished that yet just in case Old World Blues and Lonesome Road are really terrible.
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>>154932854
>I don't understand why he left me his clothes in a box at the end
Easy way to give out most unique items without having to kill people for it.
Came from time restraints.
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>>154932854
OWB was good. LR is easily the worst of all 4.
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>>154932854
Judging by your post, you'll either feel that LR is the worst of the 4 DLC or you'll absolutely love it.
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>>154931458
>1 cha, 5 int, 10 luck
>better leader than any Courier
Stop funposting, Bob.
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>>154932854
imo owb and LR are worse
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>>154932854
>can't "go native" with Follows-Chalk
still mad
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>>154932854
HH is the prettiest DLC, it's pretty short and concise though.
DM has the best backstory, but dear christ the gameplay is awful
OWB has the best atmosphere, and probably the best environment. Exploring the wonders of SCIENCE is pretty greato.
LR has the best story, and the most/hardest combat. Be prepared for lots of dudes with lethal weapons, deathclaws in the main path, and the horror that is a swarm of tunnelers.
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>>154932854
Joshua and his outfit, and the spirit in the cave are god tier
Everything else is meh
OWB is zany, not to my taste and i didn't like the world map
LR is pretty poor imo, got dat riot gear, even then I still prefer the HH desert ranger gear
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>>154934034
>the most/hardest combat

Well, shit. Almost everything in HH could one-shot me.
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>>154934034
>but dear christ the gameplay is awful
Subjective.
Others, myself included, find the gameplay very enjoyable.
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>>154934034
>dear christ the gameplay is awful
Your face is awful.
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>>154934118
>>154934196
The cloud is ok. The Ghost people are ok. BEEP BEEP BEEP is not.
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>>154934034
>LR has the best story
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>>154934225
>BEEP BEEP BEEP is not.
I disagree.
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>>154932854
HH and OWB are off the bat good for atmosphere/explorationfags. OWB is Zanier, but I find HH to be more thought invoking long after it's been played. LR you walk down a road and shoot a lot. Sounds boring, but there's at least enough action going on to keep you your toes. As others have said, it's chock full of enemies with endgame gear on par with the player because it's the endgame DLC.
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>>154934034
Worth noting that you should also play them in this order for the ideal experience.

Ring-A-Ding -> HH -> Return To Sender/Render Unto Caesar/House Always Wins/Wild Card -> DM -> minor faction bullying -> OWB -> You'll Know It When It Happens/ Arizona Killer -> LR -> Endgame.

HH would probably be my favorite if you actually experienced some leg of the journey leading to Zion and had more of a reason to stick around afterwards. Is that Zion Expedition mod or whatever it's called any good? Where you have to actually walk to Zion?
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>>154934225
>BEEP BEEP BEEP is not.
This shit again. Speakers are almost a minor hindrance throughout the DLC, the only moment they're particularly bothering being in the vault. All of the villa speakers can be shot and they're not exactly concealed, and the invulnerable ones are rather rare. Sounds like you can't get out of your comfort zone.
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>>154934385
>not doing DM first
Go find the nearest cross and hang yourself on it.
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>>154934712
>doing DM first
Horrible form. HH does a much better job of setting up the Act 2 conflict and Ulysses' arc.
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>>154934385
I was going to put shit on you for having HH before DM, but put together story-wise like this is actually pretty apt.
Good on ya.

>Is that Zion Expedition mod or whatever it's called any good? Where you have to actually walk to Zion?
Had potential, but is pretty shit and riddled with bugs.
Also can fuck with Zion itself and is recommended to do AFTER going to Zion.

>>154934712
I know what you're getting at, but how he's put it together looks pretty good.
DM and OWB have a pretty good synergy, what with the connecting characters, bs about Christine and Elijah and tales of Ulysses, whereas HH only has mention of Ulysses.

I still play them in release order, but I see what he's getting at.
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>>154934812
By barely having anything about Ulysses?
Besides, wouldn't your but hole be destroyed if you do it that early?
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YOU WANT SOMEONE DEAD?
REALLY DEAD?
STOP BY THE SILVER RUSH AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THE MEANS.
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>>154934929
Yes, exactly. You hear the vaguest hints about this guy before he's more directly discussed in DM and finally has his own audiologs in OWB. HH feels out of place otherwise.
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>>154934929
Doing HH early?
It's harder the later you do it.
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>>154934929
>>154935213
Also, HH's recommended level is 15. It's 20 for OWB and 25 for DM, IIRC.
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>>154935213
Well, alright. Fair enough.
Still not sold on it gameplay-wise though.

>>154935340
>It's 20 for OWB and 25 for DM
That would be extremely silly.
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>>154935340
Fairly sure OWB is level 30.
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>>154935632
>Still not sold on it gameplay-wise though
Really? It's mostly just you fighting lightly armored humanoids and variations of creatures native to the Mojave. The survival mechanics are the laxest, since food and water are plentiful, and there's ammo for all types of weapons scattered around on top of the new gear. You even get to take your own equipment with you.
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>>154936152
I remember getting my ass handed to me by literally everything. Those "lightly armored humanoids" have AMRs and shit, man.
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>>154936314
What level did you go in at? I recently played through it at level 21 and most of them were using either the DLC guns or hunting revolvers/rifles/shotguns and the occasional trail carbine.
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>>154936398
Must've been 25-30, can't remember now.
Good to know that their weapons scale though. Running into tribals with AMRs and 12.7 smgs was probably the most memorable thing about that dlc.
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>>154935938
Turns out HH is unlisted, OWB is 15, DM is 20, and LR is 25.
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>>154928579
Uh, I think money is the main contributor to death and destruction.
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>>154936825
>Uh
Stop.
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>>154932308
That is kinda cute.

I'd prefer her with the High-Riser or the other similar one. Or Wendy the Welder.

Both sound like they'd suit her.
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>>154934929
>Not doing LR at level 1
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>>154934225

>"Oh, sorry, I mean MY left."
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>>154938029
Was he actually being dumb or trying to get me killed?
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>>154938145

Considering that's in the story branch where he stays friendly to you he probably wasn't thinking
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>>154938009
How?

>>154938145
Little of both.
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Can we at least all agree the best playthrough order is:

HH - DM - OWB - LR
In an ideal world, I'd play OWB before DM, but the ending slides of OWB pretty much confirms LR has to be next and the last DLC you play
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>>154921416

In fiction, "Colonel" tends to be used as the most badass of military signifiers because it's a man of great authority, but hypothetically possible to find in the field, unlike Generals which never get out from behind the desk.

Real-life Colonels also apparently tend to be pretty maverick, because they're high enough that there's usually no one around to keep them in line, but they're not quite high enough that their maverick-ness would attract attention from the toppest of brass. That's just what I've heard, though.
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>>154938290
Ignore everything in goodsprings, walk straight to the canyon wreckage.
Be ready to die a lot.
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>>154925867

That's not allowed either.

If you're going to cite that one prostitute, remember that the whole reason he left the Legion is because his owner was about to kill him for fear of being exposed as a man-fucker.
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>>154938476
Yes.
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>>154938648
I think he's asking more
"how the hell would you beat a DLC which has no level scaling at level 1?" not how do I get there?

The only DLC that is viable at level 1 is HH. I suppose if you've cheesed power armor and an OP weapon you might be able to do OWB.
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>>154938476
>I'd play OWB before DM
Why would you ever want to?
Not like you can even mention your OWB adventures to Christine or Elijah in DM.
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>>154938887
Yeah, that's what I was driving at.

>>154938648
It's more of "how have you done it?"
What were your methods?
Runs where people go through the worst in a difficulty sense parts of the game interest me.
The Navarro run is the opposite.

>>154938946
I have a friend who does it because he thinks it's better for his character to know about them beforehand, even though there's no way you can bring it up with them.
It's some retarded shit.
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>>154939065
>even though there's no way you can bring it up with them.
That's a design flaw thats concurrent with the whole game though. None of the events in the DLCs translates into anything worthwhile in the base game aside from potentially pissing off a bunch of factions with the nukes.

I blame voice acting. You could have had some sort of reunion between her and Christine. You could have had Caesar get mad at you for defeating the White Legs.
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>>154911531
i updated and fixed an issue regarding some mislabeled base effect values.
please use this new one instead and delete the old one.

http://www76.zippyshare.com/v/87nSvUUY/file.html
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>>154939530
>I blame voice acting.
It's partly mostly, fuck voice actors and wanting huge checks that and also having the DLCs work together, counting all variables of what has been discussed, etc. can make shit fucked because of the trash engine Gamebryo is.

Avellone I think mentions how shitty it would have been just trying to mention Graham to Caesar.
Something about speech scripting, someone should have the screencap.
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>>154931128

I don't like where this is going.
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>>154939823
>Avellone I think mentions how shitty it would have been just trying to mention Graham to Caesar.
>Something about speech scripting, someone should have the screencap.

All you literally have to do is make a separate quest to add dialogue to Caesar that triggers after Honest Hearts, all it'd do is append dialogue to his conversation options
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>>154939979
Evidently they had enough issues to decide it wasn't worth doing.
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>>154940275

I think Obsidian just wasn't used to the GECK because they end up not bothering with a ton of features that it offers.

Veronica's dialogue for finding about what happened to Elijah post-dead money is already in vanilla, but hidden away and disguised as a cut sidequest involving ghouls. All Dead Money does is give it the conditions for it to show and restructure the player's dialogue so it's about Elijah and not the ghouls
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>>154939530
>Caesar get mad at you for defeating the White Legs
Why would he get mad at you for defeating a bunch of wannabees? They aren't even Legion proper.
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>>154829530
I want to bury my face into that ass and take a big whiff.

Bet it smells heavenly.
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>>154939903

...where do you think it's going?
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>>154940497
Joshua lives if the White Legs die.
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>>154936670
>>154936314
>>154936398
Yeah, they'll spawn with AMR's. They don't even bother explaining that shit until Lonesome Road when Ulysses mentions how they found a military armory and took every weapon and bit of ammunition they could find.
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>>154940819
I think his reaction would've been interesting. Regret, maybe, at wasting such a great asset?
>>
I went back and played the original Fallout games recently after starting with the newer games, hating 3, and loving NV. I had an absolute blast with Fallout 1, but something about Fallout 2 just isn't hitting home.

The progression in the worldbuilding from 1 to 2 makes a lot of sense and I'm really invested in exploring the world, but the writing feels really weak compared to the first one. A whole lot more deliberately "jokey" content than the first game that isn't squared away at different hidden corners of the map like the Monty Python gags in the first game, but not a lot of it is actually hitting its mark imo. Marcus is a fucking great character, but overall the cast doesn't seem as memorable this time. The Enclave isn't as interesting a threat as the Master: his goals were nuanced and talking him into suicide was amazing, but the Enclave's chips are laid on the table pretty quickly in terms of their goals and they seem one-dimensional in comparison.

I dunno, the combat and UI is just as functional as FO1 so far, but the overall product isn't grabbing me like the first one did.
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>>154940497
They were damn useful pawns. Caesar doesn't like losing assets, no matter how remote.

Vulpes understands value in the same way. He has a woman working for him (who really has no idea she's actually a LEGION spy) who he sends you to check up on. The Legion doesn't just squander resources the way the NCR does. They'll sacrifice men but it's always a tactical decision.
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>>154941043
>The Legion doesn't just squander resources the way the NCR does. They'll sacrifice men but it's always a tactical decision.

Then why do they keep sending their squads after me?
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>>154941010
That is Fallout 2, yes. You describe it pretty well. The main attraction is that there's an assload of content and some of it is good.
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>>154931128
>covering the throat scar with the slave collar
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>>154934034
>LR has the best story
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>>154941150
Simply put Caesar estimates you need to die more than his hit squads need to stay alive

Technically he's right

Assassins are a diamond dozen but a courier that can potentially shift rhe battle of Hoover Dam into the favor of his enemies is something Caesar can't have running around

Interestingly when I pissed off the NCR they only ever sent one group of rangers to try and kill me, though I suspect that was a bug
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>>154931128
I don't know, I liked her better bald and scarred up

Maybe I'm fucked up but the flaws made her seem unique and interesting

There she just looks like she could be anyone
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>>154942364
>a diamond dozen
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New thread when, wasters?

>>154942532
>Maybe I'm fucked up but the flaws made her seem unique and interesting
Nah, you've just got good taste.
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>>154931128
Christine's voice actress is a literal retard tho
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>>154942364
>a diamond dozen
Friendly reminder that retardation is degeneracy
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i'll make the new thread
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>>154942859
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>>154942859
She's a VA, she doesn't have to play games or care about them. The only VAs I'd expect to distinguish FO3 and FNV are Perlman and Perry.
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>>154942874
Wow that's rude, dude

Do you just go around calling people retards for no raisin or what

Is that how you get your jollies
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>>154906710
The Legion is not for sexuals, profligate
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>>154943040
retard
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>>154942859

Reminder that half of NV's voice cast came back for 4.
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>>154943201
>>154943201
>>154943201
>>154943201
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>>154943149
>half
like one person I can think of
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>>154943020
Well you'd think she'd know what she was working on.
She doesn't have to have played the damn thing, but she should have at least paid attention to what she lent her voice to./
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>>154943276

Courtenay Taylor voiced Gloria Van Graff

And then you've got Liam O'Brien, Yuri Lowenthal, the 3 guys who voiced Boxcars, Keely and Francine Garret and the guy who voiced Lee who also voiced the caravaneer in Honest Hearts

those are the ones I can remember off the top of my head.
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>>154942859
There is only one voice of Christine that matters and this is not her.
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>>154859547
Vanilla Cass is completely fine you faggot
You want Tranny butteface Cass?
Install FCO without NVR
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