/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

i dont like new game

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STOP TALKING ABOUT LEWD JAM

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>missed another demo day

How would an artist find someone to work with who has a game with some kind of a story/lore, and doesn't give up within 2 weeks?

>>154820376
pay $$

>>154820376
$$

or wait until they've finished the game and it just needs art slapped on, and then only if you sign a contract giving them rights to all your work if you flake before release

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>>154820410
>>154820437
>pay money to work on someone else's game

>>154820376
I think most people here find that artists seem to give up faster then programmers so giving up after 2 weeks shouldn't be too much of a problem

If your art is good enough you should be able to post it asking to work with someone and you can pick from the people wanting to work with you

No one will take you seriously unless you post your artwork though

>>154820286
Why?

>>154820486
The programmer doesn't "own" the game if other people worked on it

If it's your art in the game that art still belongs to you unless he/she pays for the rights of it. In the same sense the programing belongs to the programmer unless you paid for it.

>>154820593
I can't draw or write

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Some up-ice fixes that needed to be done before more boss work. Now it works on slopes and one-way platforms, and doesn't do silly things when you use it next to a wall.

>>154820640
If you can program you can still make something lewd

>>154820723
That's really good

It just works™

>>154820437
>>154820496

>Used to work in a solicitors' office
>Potential client comes in
>"I need a lawyer. I paid an artist to work on my videogame and he's overdue with a piece of work"
>Has a dodgy Spanish accent, kind of unusual in my area of Scotland
>Ok, what was the agreement?
>X amount of money by Y date
>Well he's only overdue by 2 days. It sucks but maybe try to conta-
>"NO HE HAS BROKE AGREEMENT, I WANT TO FUCK HIM FOR ALL HIS MONEYS"
>He actually said that.

Later I told my buddies who had done some gayboy gamedev course at Uni and they asked "Was that Spaniardguy? Yeah he's a huge cunt".

Turns out he didnt even contact the artist to ask where the work was, and he hadn't actually paid him yet, despite the agreement stating that 75% of the funds would be paid up front.

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>>154820779
>75% of the funds would be paid up front
A lot of loyalty for a highered artiest

>gamemaker tutorial tells you to use an entirely wrong action that just doesn't work in one section
>the next section that gives you the code that you would have ended up with from the last section has the right action

ree etc

>the devs pronounce it "go dot"
what the fug

>>154821041
how else would you pronounce it?

>>154820921
Apologies, I got it backwards. 25% up front, 75% after work was received.

It wasnt even a lot of money, either. It was effectively for some background art and some cover art.

>>154821068
I pronounce it "gaw-dawt", dunno about that other anon though.

is there somewhere I can get a free model for like... a giant cavernous room?

>>154821087
That sounds like a fair deal

>>154821068
like the play, not "go ."

"god oh" or "guh dough"

>>154821041
They pronounce it "go dot" because the program logo is a "ro bot"

>lewd starts in a day
>still no good small scope but fun idea

>>154821559
That's stupid

>>154821719
Godot is stupid. Did you miss the trump meme?

>>154821175
should be 50/50. at 25% people still scam and go away with the lineart.

>>154820486
oh, u mean you wanted to work with someone that has a game.
I thought you're the one that have the game and are finding for programmer that doesn't give up within 2 weeks.

Well, in this case, work for free.
there's plenty of people require art work for free.
I need an artist that can work for free too~

>>154821068
I've heard it pronounced "go dough"

>>154821780
>Did you miss the trump meme?
What are you talking about?

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>watched every YouTube video I could find on Blender
>still not good at 3D modeling

>>154822121
because you have to actually practice. you only really need to know some basic tools for most modelling.

rigging and animating is a different nightmare beast

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alright so I have this... thing. it looks marginally better from inside it, but still looks pretty bad

there's a hole in the ground and you'll drop down, get some item, and then come back up through the staircase (which will have a button to open the door so you can't open it from the main room)

>>154822121
just gotta practice
force yourself to make a different thing every day even if it turns out shit you you will improve

>>154822121
>read a book on C++
>still don't have the skills to program videogames
I give up

>>154822121
>watched every bob ross videos
>still not good at drawing

that's how retarded you sound like

>>154822234
>>154822121
people who tell you that 100% of good artist just repeated forever tend to avoid to discuss about the 99% of people for whom it didn't work.

>>154821991
https://godotengine.org/article/godot-2-1-rc1-out

>>154822121
>watched youtube videos

you are an actual idiot

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro

someone add this shit to the op because I'm tired of posting it every single time some shitter has trouble with blender

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>>154822121
He CAN'T keep getting away with it!

>>154822294
the 99% for whom it didn't work aren't just poor bastards who had no luck. Repeating things forever mindlessly is not going to work, obviously. You have to apply yourself and practice in a manner that actually advances your skills.

>>154821068
>>154821041
I always thought it's a reference to the Samuel Beckett play.

>>154822391
>the 99% for whom it didn't work aren't just poor bastards who had no luck
>tfw not lucky enough to have talent
>tfw I'll never make it

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>>154822479
me too anon, me too. feels bad to be born without talent ill never make it. its not fucking fair

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tackling the interface bloat. worked over ammo and bomb counter.

>>154822326
> Status:Rendering process died with non zero code: 1
T-Thanks wiki

>>154822391
see? you go with the belief I just explained. you only see the 1% and pretend it's a "everybody can do it".

>>154821716
Ah I think I got inspired now

>>154822326
I second this so much. Every time someone asks for help in Belnder, they get directed to the official guide (which is not free), or occasionally get some good video tutorials.

I believe that you have posted that link before, but I have never seen it, so thanks for posting it again!

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>want to make a shitty freemium game for mobile
>have no ideas
>never gonna rake in normie dosh
Dang.

>>154822574
Well, let's say that I go by what I know to be true. And I know that *I* can do pretty much anything as long as I put time and effort into it. If you can't do that then it's not my problem.

>>154822270
>watched porn for 15 years
>I'm still not a cute girl who loves to suck dick
Why do I keep living?

>>154822839
>shitty freemium game for mobile
even if u make a high quality freemium game now, you won't make money.
the market is so over saturated that you are basically buying lottery to make big bucks on mobile market.

>not using RPi Zeros to build standalone Tiger handheld-style games

Get with the times. Clunky is in.

>>154822981
at least the second part came true you fucking faggot

>>154822839
make some cutesy dumb weeb rpg shit
idiots eat that shit up like candy

'Talent' is the biggest, worst meme humanity has given birth to in its whole existance

talent doesn't exist and faggots who fall for the talent meme are retarded

>>154823221
>talent doesn't exist
i can taste your jealousy through the monitor screen

>>154823276
Should probably not be licking your monitor, Anon. That's weird.

>>154823221
That's right, god created us all equal, anyone who is smarter or advantaged got it by oppressing poor minorities and making them less smart giving them less advantages

>>154823504
This whole site is a thinly veiled pedo image board.

>>154822326
Has this been updated recently? I remember it didn't even teach cycles and had terrible mapping/texturing tutorials that would discourage any beginner because of how shit they looked.

>>154823221
>Old English talente, talentan (as a unit of weight), from Latin talenta, plural of talentum ‘weight, sum of money,’ from Greek talanton
>the value of a talent was about twenty years of labour, by an ordinary person
it's not a bad analogy if you keep the original meaning.

>>154823581
you're thinking of ∞_chan

>>154823649
I wonder when the use of talent for inherent skill meme began

>>154823756
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_talents_or_minas

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PROGRESS
>you can now check what cards are in a custom deck before enabling or disabling it

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>Have enought skill to make any kind of 2D game
>Your friend know how to draw great stuff on paper
>He dont know how to use a computer
>Live on Brazil
>No one belive you
>Try make a game alone
>Still making the game

>>154823825
jesus was purposefully vague with this bullshit so the joos wouldn't understand

>>154822574
just raise your kid (when you have one) to be super into drawing things on paper and you will have a kid who would be a candidate for blender art when they get older, i find its because i grew up drawing crazy insane shit when i was like 7 years old that made me an insane artist type. now i just need to mindlessly practice blender and watch a billion and a half youtube tutorials like you guys have been doing, i can make good shit but not when i dont know this crazy complex program interface

>>154824117
>live in brazil
>didn't join police force
It's like you don't want to be a god of life and death

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>>154824094
Wait, is this another horror card game? I knew I couldn't be the only one. Shit.

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>>154824258
post yours, friend

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>>154824191
he gets to actually make decent money doing art since 100 american dollars is like 300 bucks in brazil, meanwhile we gotta deal with inflation and california tax and california rent prices here and somehow survive on a freelancer's wage while flipping burgers or something

>>154821041
>>154821154
>>154821434
That's what makes english language so fucking messed up. Nobody knows how to pronounce anything. And then we complain when foreigners can't pronounce shit properly.

>>154824346
>make a small fortune drawing furry porn
>get robbed by a biker with a gun
such is life in brazil

>>154824327
Mine is going to follow a TCG format, somewhere between all the games I played as a kid. I only have test shots right now as I'm a massive procrastinator.

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>>154822981
If you made a successful game you could be.

I'm going to make a videogame and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>154824513
good luck with that, I'm hoping to play the demo soon

>>154823581
>everyone in pic is older than 18
>some of them are older than 25
>pedo

>>154823658
4chan was ∞ before ∞ existed

>>154818868
I really need to git gud at coding. My rpg design beliefs are finely honed from decades of playing rpgs.

>used to go to mall with my mom and my brother, I was 5 and he was 8.
>she would leave us at wizards of the coast while she bought clothes and shit.
>somehow me and my brother decided to try and get D&D 3rd edition instead of pokemon cards or magic cards.
>store manager was a bro and helped convince our mother with us (probably just wanted to sell the books desu)
>My brother made me DM
>I was DMing at the age of 5
>I still have old yellow ass D&D DM notes from back then which have a bunch of spelling mistakes that were written on a legal pad.

Here's how I'd do it.

Instead of being hard locked into classes. I'd have a system where you buy
Skills
Traits
Attributes

Classes would be like purchasing a skillpath that unlock a group of traits that required a prerequisite of Skills, Traits, and Attributes.

For example the "Paladin" might be a hidden class requiring these prerequisites
- A melee combat weapon skill at rank 6
- heavy armor proficiency
- shield proficiency
- a charisma of 15
- a constitution of 14
- a strength of 14
- a wisdom of 12
- a intelligence of 12
- A set amount of lawful and good acts (recorded from decisions during dialogue and quests)
- A set amount of piety, gained from praying, doing deeds for a church, reading holy texts etc
- A hidden "Selfless Act of Heroism" These could be tagged for certain quest choices. Performing a selfless act of heroism would unhide the class so you could see the other prerequisites

The paladin class could be bought for an amount of exp and then you could buy paladin only traits like
- Hit Dice d10 rank 1 - 20
- Aura of Courage ranks 1 - 10
- Lay on Hands ranks 1 -10
- Divine Health [disease]
- Divine Health [poison]
- Divine Health [corruption]

Some traits are flat, others have scaling ranks. But the class itself would never force abilities on you that you don't want, not even a classes hp.

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>>154824558
Same to you, Anon. I'll be keeping an eye out for progress. (screen is me trying out screen layout and stuff)

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Kinda progress. Setting up my actor parents and children for easy use in both setting up the bases and no fuss when players are constructing them. I still feel I could make this thing tighter.

Pic is the lightswitch. Spawns amounts of lights as defined when dragged into the level and the necessary variables are public so that my room BP can update them if a player adds or destroys a light. Will replace the transform and spawn with a mesh to match so that even if they are deactivated in the event graph player still see where they are.

>>154824117
Come on, it's not too hard to teach someone how to use a scanner.

Or better, buy him a tablet and pirate photoshop or Aesprite for him (that's still yours if he gives up). Shit's super easy.

>>154824583
4chan turned into reddit-lite normie central years ago. Me saying that is literally a bannable offense because the rules legitimately say that you're not allowed to complain about 4chan.

>>154824620
>ideaguying

>>154824620
Make it dependent on a quest with prerequisite attributes to add some role to your roll and you got yourself a pretty good system.

>>154822563
gr8 job monodev, looking sleek

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>Your game don't have multiplayer online

Sad every time

>>154824794
>rpg gameplay mechanics are hard to code

If you were talking about "I'm going to have an action RPG with hundreds of weapon styles and animations for each society and race" that would be ideaguying.

The stuff I was talking about you could literally just have like, a dictionary object with <string id, trait trait>

the trait class could be as simple as
int currentRank
int maxRank
string name

gameplay would just involve checking the list in player for if he had a trait or not.

>>154824952
;_; it makes me sad every time since thats not easy to do when your just starting out making stuff

>>154824952
On that topic, what parts do you keep serverside and what parts do you have clientside? There is so much cheating potential here but I don't want to burn down homes of server owners.

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>>154824952
>if my game doesn't have online I get shat on by all the loners
Fuckin hell.

>>154821873
That's the correct pronunciation.

>>154824746
Yeah I have seen people baneed for that before. Stuill don't understand that rule.

>>154824952
I'll make an online multiplayer game someday.

>>154824346
You can't compare $100 usd to 300 brl. Shit is more expensive in Brasil, especially in regards to entertainment. The biggest benefit of living in brasil is the average apartment is fucking cheap as hell.

Rent/mortgage being a huge factor of cost of living (You also live in California so you're like triple fucked because everything there is hell). However any place that is decently nice and cheap is filled with the worst people and you will probably get robbed every single day unless you find an apartment in like the nice area of Poços de Caldas.

More importantly away from this rant, why are you living in California if you're a freelancer. Get the fuck out of California.

>>154825139
Best approach in my opinion is only have serverside what you really need, or what can fuck the game if players manages to edit it. Everything else clientside. You kinda have to get a balance between them to avoid having everything server side because is unpractical as fuck or having everything client side and allow everyone to cheat the fuck out of it.

>>154824952
I talked to my ISP about renting a spot to put a server in

They wanted like $800 a month

I just wanted a gay little test server

>>154825563
>I talked to my ISP about renting a spot to put a server in
wow how stupid can one person be

>>154822563

Is that a sword for your ship?

>>154825563
the cloud exists anon

>>154825646
>>154825725
I was expecting them to say like $50 a month and for that the fun outweighs the cost by far

The place isn't very far from my house

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Should I add in more hair color options?
Also, they seem to look less retarded now.
Now i have to fix the derpy walk cycle, which seems to be missing a few frames that would make the walk more sexy.
Progress later today.

>>154825563

AWS costs like $15 a month.

what's the hashtag for lewd game jam, cant seem to find it

>>154825563
you have 1 year for free on aws. its really easy to setup, just create an account and create an ec2 instance. youll be able to use it as a normal linux terminal and from there you can you server

What's the point of visual scripting?

It is supposed to make it easier for your artists to code?
Because your artists shouldn't be coding in the first place. And if you seriously are lacking in programmers the basic logic of programming stays the same regardless of whether it's visual or not. So it's not like it matters.

It's much faster to write code than it is to place and connect node. It's also much more readable than your spaghetti.

They could've spend the time designing blueprints on creating a good scripting language with a good IDE and debugging tools.

>>154825898
>not giving a custom RGB color sliders

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can someone tell me if they can get my game to download and work ? some one said they played it and they loved it and told me to make more games... this is my first game

>>154826296
sorry heres the link, i forgot to add it to the post

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j7e8q57c9205z3z/AnimuShoot.exe.7z?dl=0

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>>154826170
i'm here to help

>>154826296
post screenshot

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>>154825670
yes, this is a sword. it can reflect bullets(sometimes).

>>154826249
>It is supposed to make it easier for your artists to code?
yes, level designers can help script
>Because your artists shouldn't be coding in the first place
says who? i'd rather work with people who are knowledgeable in the area than not.
>It's much faster to write code than it is to place and connect node
not all the time
>It's also much more readable than your spaghetti
not all visual scripting is spaghetti or any less understandable than equivalent code

you don't seem like you've even spent considerable time with bp

>>154826273
>RGB
>not HSB

>>154826624
fuckin' noice

>>154825493
>You also live in California so you're like triple fucked because everything there is hell
yes
>why are you living in California if you're a freelancer.
neetbucks and living with parents. had no true opportunities yet in life due being a pleb affected by due to obvious inflation general joblessness rates and hellish stingy snob babyboomer run corporations going on

>>154826624

So what happens when you run out of ammo?

>>154826296
>>154826380
The game works well and it has a lot of potential

Good job implementing sound so early in development, I'm interested in seeing where you go with this game next

>>154826812
weapon reverts back to basic.

>>154826884

and the basic peashooter I'm assuming has infinite ammo?

120 slashes is a lot for a sword though, can you switch between weapons or do you have to use whatever you currently have equipped?

>>154826296
>>154826380
For fuck sake Aocchi learn to use fucking itch.io I'm not downaloding your trojans.

>>154826296
It works here without problems.
My only complain is that the turn speed is too low, but thats me.

>>154826540
https://www.dropbox.com/home/Screenshots?preview=Screenshot+2016-09-15+06.08.24.png

>dropbox.com
its not letting me screencap like i used to be able to due to "Le dropbox program" fucking with my computer

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Made it so you can aim up and down, it's almost all works with the inverse kinematics stuff in Unity so it's not using animations looking up and down. Also this way it should be easier to make more different weapons.

>>154826936

basic weapon has infinite ammo, dps is mostly about the same across all weapons. keywords add utility, but lower overall damage and ammo, so say, a 'triple' keyword can deal with over 100% of overall damage - but only if all shots connect, so, up close mostly.

also you're limited to whatever weapon you're carrying, switching to other weapons recovers health though.

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This is 3D? if Yes How

>>154826787
>Living with family
I guess that makes sense but if you do ever try and get a decently sized job. I would search one outside of California and explain you're willing to move.

>>154827182
shaders

>>154827182
give tumblr source pls

>>154827182

It's probably rotoscoped.

>>154827182
Milly Metre a qt

>>154826656
I have, hence my complaints. I'd rather work in C++, but the experience is even worse, especially if you don't have an SSD.

>>154827338
http://clairvoire.tumblr.com/

>>154827380
She looks like she's trying to sit and lean at the same time.

>>154779514
>Why don't you contribute back to games with all your cash?
>You could make GTA V 50 times over yet you spend it all on mansions and cars.
>>>/pol/88945636

I need some advice, finally decided to implement state machines into my project to make things easier (Gamemaker), I don't understand how they work currently and I'm trying to mess with them, if my game's turnbased I would probably need Overworld, Menu and Battle states and the Battle state would have to be divided into more states but I don't really get how it all works so I dunno which ones. Maybe PlayerTurn and EnemyTurn states? Would this work for multiple player characters/enemies, when would I determine turn order, while initializing the battle? All this is just me rambling because I have no state machine code right now, I'm just trying to make a flowchart until I get home so any suggestions would be appreciated.

>>154827117
i was expecting a hotline bling gif. heueheuhe

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>>154827182
Make a shader/reduce the colors in post, render at a low resolution with no AA

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I should probably change the black border but whatever

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>>154827564
>decided to implement state machines into my project to make things easier
> I don't understand how they work
good luck on that easy progress

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progress haha :')

>>154827564
http://gameprogrammingpatterns.com/state.html
try this. even if you dont get the code the logic will save you.

>>154827736
you forgot the '''''' '''''''

>>154827720
state machines are simple as fuck, they rarely make things easier tho. well, my uses of them have probably just been bad, having a shitload of functionality depend on some state and handling it in a monolithic switch case.

>>154827975
uh sorry i'm a retard and need to learn to read

>>154827736
What's taking you so long? Are you writing each vertex by hand?

>>154827508
>first post
>indian looking people
>black looking people
>obese looking woman
>red cheeks and red nose
100% tumblr. Pixel art is cool though.

>>154826273
>>154826747
You don't build the strippers, they just show up and you can hire them or not. Current options give me over 500 combinations. You can't have more than 25 girls working anyway, so it's not an issue.

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>>154828329
DELTE

>>154824450
> going outside

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>>154827736

>>154828452
>implying biker robbers won't crash through your wall if they smell sweet sweet moni

>>154820376
artist are more so flaky, I avoid all artist who haven't done commissions before. You should all nodevs who haven't made a game before.

Am I the only one that can't find any appeal at all on pixel art lewds?

FREE PIXEL ART PROTIP:

USE GODDAMN DIAGONALS

_ boring sword

/ holy shit why is this so amazing

>>154827720
>good luck on that easy progress
I just need them to take care of my turn order, anon. I get the idea behind them but I'm new to gamemaker, this is just practice for me, I'm not really aiming to make a game on my first try.
As a sidenote, I get how state machines work on a single object in, for example, a platformer game. Have different states for walking, standing, jumping, falling etc, can't figure out how to apply all that to an RPG game though because I don't understand the logic behind them - or behind RPG games, after all.

>>154827862
Thank you anon, I'll check that out.

Fuck, I would pay someone to handhold me through this, it's the only thing keeping me from starting to work on my special attacks for the players and enemies. I can't wait to get it over with.

>>154824618
are you able to use the tombstone on any wall or just destructable ones.

>>154827182
That pixel artist just likes to do turnarounds.

>>154829019
What happened to that guy? did he dissapear?
I miss his fanarts.

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>>154827736
delet this

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Discovered out trying to highlight sprites might be a pain in the ass. From google a lot of people recommended just making a highlighted version of each sprite and having it switch in and out according.

I'm debating on just splitting the screen into sections so on mouse over a bouncing pointer arrow hovers over the target.

>>154827736
Why does this exist? Why is this allowed?

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i hope this is acceptable as a programmer's drawing.
>No, it's not placeholder, i will be drawing by myself. 1MA here.

imo, the original sprite is so small that the crappy art turned out to be fine.
any artist can point a direction?

and how do you guys design hairstyles?
reference from other games?

>>154829535
>Google Image search hairstyle
>refine search by types of hairstyle (mens, punk, etc)
>find reference and work from it

Pretty basic shit anon, cmon.

>>154829535
looks fine, wheres the game.

>>154824952
Mine does.

but it's multiplayer only so it might fail horribly

>>154827117
This is my favourite project atm. Don't give up anon.

>>154827641
>tfw no police quest game with this high quality ridiculous animation

Whoever joins the lobby first is the owner and only he can start the game.
Players can vote to change/kick the owner so the owner can't afk in the lobby.

Or

There is no lobby owner, when enough players join, the game starts.
This means annoying countdowns since the game supports between 2 and 12 people, and if 2 people join the lobby, you want to give the remaining 10 people time to join.

Which one is better?

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>>154829535
MIXELS are NOT! OKAAYY!!!

>>154824746
it's okay anon, Alex Liefschitz isn't a mod anymore, you're allowed to have your own thoughts on 4chains again

>>154829689
well, planned to do that as well.
>google anime hairstyle / 2D hairstyle
>copy
i thought that people might recognize the hairstyle,
but now that i think about it, most customization hairstyles in different games are similar.

>>154829763
no game to show yet.
just done with main menu & one main feature.
few more features before i will start posting progress.
and one of the feature are related with characters customization.
probably gonna take me another 2 weeks.

>>154828817
Any, atm they're very scarce and one use only too.

>>154827736
this is DSP levels of bad

>>154827736
That map design is actually pretty good. Keep it up anon!

>>154830026
>tfw making a turn based rpg about the in-game's equivalent of police

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>>154830090

>>154829535
It's decent, not the best shit, you should try to add shadows to the skin an the hair.
I usually just play around when drawing hair, or use some anime characters as inspiration

Anyone got the dagger pic saved? I want to implement a maymay in my game XD

>>154828329
>>154827380
this is in line with my interests. anyway to follow your progress?

http://www.dinofarmgames.com/a-pixel-artist-renounces-pixel-art/

Why haven't you renounced pixel art yet?

>>154830857
L E V E L D E S I G N
I S
G A M E D E V

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I hope tostring and string.gsub isn't an expensive operation in lua. Because I do it every time the score changes.

Also got a rolling count up instead of instantly becoming the new score.

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Should I use pure SDL2 or bite the pillow and use OpenGL for graphics rendering and leave the rest (window, input) to SDL2?

SDL has been pretty good so far for my test platformer but now I want to draw triangles for slopes and it won't let me.

>>154829535
mixed pixel sprites are hideous don't do it

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>>154830939
I'm an idiot that didn't realized I cropped out my own scoring.

>>154831163
L E V E L D E S I G N
I S
G A M E D E V

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>>154830885
Pixel art looks better than that shitty flash animation stuff on the right side. Their games will now look like generic iphone crap now.

>>154831163
what's my game supposed to offer without good levels?

>trying to come up with a scale for a 3d space game

feels bad man, floating point issues everywhere

>>154829267
Busy with his game

>>154830090
>>154831039
There are no mixels in that image.

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>>154829535
alright, screw it.
my game ain't action game anyway,
i don't need flashy animated sprite.

this is gonna be a character moving downwards.

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>>154831475
L E V E L D E S I G N
I S
G A M E D E V

>>154831518
that's not even walking, he's just shimmying downwards.

>>154831518
>mixels
>shitty NG tier walk cycle
0/10

>>154830885
>>154831201
>Their games will now look like generic iphone crap now.

This times a million. The best vector art looks substantially worse than subpar pixel art. Nobody will play your game if it looks like it was made in flash.

>>154831425
don't be dumb, it's not what fits the exact description of "mixels", but the head and arms are obviously drawn in lower resolution than the armor

>>154830885
Those guys were just blaming the poor performance of their game on their chosen art medium.

Additionally, personally, I don't find the look of their game very appealing despite its well crafted pixel work.

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>I want to make a game but I am unwilling to learn the skills to succeed
Programmer art will not cut it and nobody will do your art for you

>>154831643
You don't even know what mixels are, do you?

>>154824620
Anon thanks A LOT for this. Really appreciated.

>>154830076
Anybody? Which is the better option?

>>154820376
>make good art
>post art online
>talk to devs

>>154831734
you missed the point

>>154831791
The C&C games have a system where you mark yourself as "ready" and when everyone's ready the game begins.

>>154831721
>not just using abstract shapes or public domain art

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>>154831518

>>154831791
Neither sound standard behavior for lobbies.

>>154831812
>make good art
>post online
>get 0 attention
>make a shit porn furry art
>400 followers

I REALLY WISH THIS WAS A JOKE

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>>154831634
>best vector art looks substantially worse than subpar pixel art

said the autistic 4chan poster with no talent and literally no one else

>>154831909
this + votekick for afkers is ideal

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>>154831985
>make good code
>post online
>get 0 attention
>there's no way to get around this

>>154832010
>said the autistic 4chan poster with no talent and literally no one else

said the autistic 4chan poster with no talent and literally no one else

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>>154832067
post code so I can steal it

>>154831985
show me your art anon

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I made it even more ridiculous.

It's only on screen for a short period though.

>>154832067
Just make it a text based porn game.

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>>154829535
By adding a highlight to his hair and decreasing the mixel look a little, he looks way better. Make use of every pixel, to add form, and add highs and lows for contrast.

do you guys do Ludum Dare? if not, why?

>>154832337
HEY I WAS BEING SERIOUS

>>154832349
that looks significantly worse. dat pillow shading

>>154832349
Don't "decrease" the mixel look. Obliterate all mixels. Either that or just draw smooth art and forget pixels.

>>154832492
You don't know what pillow shading is.

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>>154832171
Real one here

>>154832362
never have, always been too busy working on own projects whenever it rolls around

>>154832543
Never managed to find the artist of that mockup, link?

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>>154832337
>that """""""""""art"""""""""""""

>>154832492
>pillow shading
It's a highlight and shaded area. It's two tone you fucking retard.

>>154832630
http://marquetgames.tumblr.com/

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I've replaced black borders with an opened package, how does it look?

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>>154831882
You don't have a point and you don't know what mixels are. Here's some mixels so you can learn the difference. Note that due to the basic nature of his art you need to zoom in about 300% to even see the upscale mixels clearly.

Now fuck off, retard.

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154

aaaaaaaaaaaa why can't I start working on 3D modeling today AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>154833154
original creator here.
I used paint to upscale the image since it's 50x50 at original size.
probably hence why the crappy "mixels" shit came out.

here's a 800% scaled image from aseprite.

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>>154833154
>zooming in on something by a power of 2 magically makes mixels

Was this you too? Resizing things is HAAAAAAAAAAARD isn't it?

>>154833403
You see how his head and hands are made out of squares that are 2x as big as the squares in the armour? That's mixels.

>>154831518
Making good sprites is like sculpting and polishing a rock. And it looks like you're not even trying.

If you start looking at the finished product instead at what you have right now, you'll never get good.

>>154833154
His art is blocky. Not mixels.
The 1:1 version, its pretty clear that there are single row sprites. Just because the hands and some of the hair have fatter blocks doesn't make it mixels. It might not look as good, buts it's not a mixel. Also, scaling to 300%.... who does this?

now that i took a look in my original image,
>>154829535
the "mixels" aren't there too.

>>154833154
is a quality bait.
8/8 made me reply.

>>154833683
>Just because the hands and some of the hair have fatter blocks doesn't make it mixels.
It literally does. Mixels is a portmanteau of "mixed pixel sizes".

>>154826624
kinda like psyvariar 2
cool

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>>154832349
This. Still fucking ugly, and the color pallete you choose is horrible beyond any kind of possible redemption, but if you invest a little bit of time trying to draw shapes and shadows with the pixels instead of drawing squares everywhere you can get something more pleasant to look at, or at least, more readable.

>>154827117
make his leg walk when he turns while aiming

this is shaping up pretty nicely

>>154833498
Ummm... no. That's not mixels. If he had three pixels scaled to the same width as two pixels, then that's mixels.
You have no clue what you're talking about.

>>154833403
>probably hence why the crappy "mixels"
There are no mixels in your original image, I created those mixel images by scaling them with photoshop.
Mixels are that blurry effect that happens when the software you're scaling with tries to blend pixels together using AA. Paint only does this when scaling down, so if you scale up with paint you will never, ever have mixels. Those you have absolutely no idea what they're talking about and are just regurgitating memes.

>>154833450
What the fuck are you even on about, spastic?

>>154833837
bbut muh big pixels though, ts gotta b RETRO

>>154833886
>>154833891
Mixels have NEVER been used to refer to this effect before you two retards came in.

>>154831013
No enginedevs around? Dang.

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Progress!

The deck can shuffle now and you can draw cards from it to make your hand. Now I need to add actual gameplay I guess.

>>154833837
that looks super nice to me, a lot snes-like

>>154833969
>Hi I'm new to AGDG. :3

>>154833932
>RETRO
>inigomontoya.jpg you know the deal

>>154831013
>>154834029
SDL's rendering (even the new "hardware accelerated" system) is garbage. Super slow and horribly limited.

OpenGL for 2D is really easy, too.

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coming through with actual knowledge you scoundrels
make your own conclusions

>>154834104
Thanks, with more cleaning and a proper palette it could probably look a lot better.

<<154834140
You got me, anon.

>>154833837
oh fuck, that's pretty sweet.

and i did said i'm programmer that doing art by myself.
not that i'm using it as an excuse,
but my drawing skills are literally just on that low level.
In fact, i don't see any problems on my drawing until people here pointed it out.
Hence why i posted it here at the first place, to be criticize. reasonably.

i'm not trying to be "retro" as >>154833932
said.
that's literally my limitation on drawing.

>>154834230
what's "misaligned"?

>>154820089

Music for a puzzle game https://clyp.it/x4jj0lcx

>>154834331
then in short just make them real low res.
Don't do it low res to then resize it

or make them placeholder until someone fixes them up for you like >>154833837 did

>>154834376
Not aligned to the grid of available pixels. One pixel is the smallest unit of visual space, and somehow, your sprite is between those literal quanta of calculable space.

>>154834478
I see, thanks

Is rotation that bad? snes did it, right?

>>154834473
but i need my character at 50x50.
so i drew it at 50x50.
If i draw a real low res char and scale it to 50x50, autists here gonna shout mixels again, no?

>>154834230
Yeah,
>>154834140
>>154833886
>>154833891
are completely wrong.

>>154834581
SNES didn't have rixels. Rotated sprites nearly always look like shit if it's not done by hand, though. The exceptions are where the art style is designed around being able to do some algorithmic scaling and rotation.

>>154834331
In my opinion have people pointing out your mistakes and learning how to avoid them next time is the first step to improving. Just take your time, study some references and practice a little when you get burned out of coding, Eventually you'll notice you probably got better at it.

>>154834581
SNES did pixel perfect rotation, meaning that it tries to calculate a rotation for the sprite while fitting to the available pixel grid.

What that picture illustrated was having pixels rotated at 45 degree angle, somehow adding triangles to the available grid.

>>154834669
because it is, if you need them at 50x50 do them 50x50

what kind of twisted logic would make you think otherwise?

>>154834669
The problem isn't that it was low res and scaled, the problem was that you drew a sprite, upscaled it 2x, and then drew armour over top without respecting the scaling.

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Is there a torrent of newer cracked version of spine (not the ancient 2 y.o. one on public trackers)?
Spriter's mesh deformation is S H I T, moving body parts around might as well be done in PS, and I should have bought food with the money I spent on it

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what's going on in this thread

>>154834903
autisms

>>154833683
>>154833704
I think you guys misunderstood what I did. I intentionally upscaled the original image in Photoshop to create mixels so I could show the "muh mixels" guy what mixels actually are.
Also, the zoomed picture is a screenshot at 300% zoom, not 300% upscaling.

>>154834230
>>154834715
>>154833498
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mixed+pixel+

>>154834721
I'm pretty sure yoshi's island had "real"sprite rotation and it looked allright

>>154834736
I don't get it, doesn't the little square that is a pixel actually rotate on snes? Let's say yoshi's island boulders, if I zoom very closely to one of them while it is rotating, do I see a rotated little square or not?

>>154834173
Yeah, so I've heard, specially how it can't batch render. I assume that other than initialization, using opengl ends up being the same?

>>154834972
None of this shit has anything to do with pixel art, retard. "Mixel" is a term AGDG made up to describe a specific phenomenon. Who's the new one now?

>>154835034
YI would be one of those exceptions were the blobby pastel art style allows rotation to look okay.

>>154835115
I'm pretty sure I remember contra rotating as well, and it looked allright, even if, of course, kinda messy

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>recently made a devblog on tumblr
>notice everyone mentions their sexuality on their blogs

>>154835034
https://youtu.be/FiMSPU6n1yg?t=177 look carefully, it's still respecting the grid but the sprite is indeed being rotated

>>154835113
>using opengl ends up being the same?
What do you mean the same?

>>154835187
>on tumblr
What did you expect?

>>154835187
It's not that hard to avoid those sort of people & things on tumblr.

You'll get followed by gay furry blogs regularly but that's the extent of the interaction with that side of it if you want.

>>154834581
sprite rotation on snes was very rare because for sprites it had to be done mostly with an aid of external chips; mode 7 rotation was seen pretty often though
what you see described as rixels could be called an extension of mixels, where a single unit within a sprite obviously covers more than one actual pixel, except now it's combined with sprite rotation, which results in user being able to clearly discern between rotated squares

i know that some people on discord meme against not using mixels/rixels in retro-stylized games, but they overlook the fact that when they do it, they lose the stylistic accuracy and become the nu-retro many players have already come to hate
the general solution for sprites if you don't like the artifacts that come from using rotated sprites without bumping up the sprite size is to either prepare your sprite specifically in order to reduce the artifacts or to just handdraw the needed rotated frames
>>154834972
your new and vocabulary inaccuracies are showing

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>>154835187
Don't follow the blogs that bring up their sexuality unnecessarily. Boom, problem solved.

>>154835187
>found an interesting pixel art blog on tumblr some time ago
>check it when I'm bored
>suddenly a post explaining author's sexuality in detail and why is not wrong to be that way
special snowflakes anon. Having something "weird" realted to their sexuality is the new "weeb" the new "scene" or the new "emo"

>>154835172
Be honest, are you underage? Have you ever played any SNES game? Even on an emulator?

>>154835416
i don't, they follow me

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>>154835172
Pixels still were squares and aligned to the grid. Not missaligned and diamond shaped.

>right mouse moves the unit
>right mouse also rotates the camera
>want to allow the camera to be rotated while a unit is selected
>don't want the camera to rotate when a unit is just being moved

what's the solution here boys?

>>154835207
holy shit you're right

this game is really impressive

>>154835115
> "Mixel" is a term AGDG made up to describe a specific phenomenon.

Mixel is a term digital imagery that refers to artifacts produced when software tries to create an intermediate value based on two original values, either because the pixel resolution is too large to capture the original colour difference (downscaling and real world image capture) or when anti-aliasing is used to soften pixels during upscaling.
This is the actual definition of mixel and was always the definition used on AGDG until dumb cunts like you came along.

Your newfag version of mixel doesn't even make sense.

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>>154835187
I wish you could follow people on tumblr but be able to hide all their fucking reblogs

there's some good blogs on tumblr but they also happen to reblog lots of shit I don't give a fuck about and spam my feed

>>154835710
It's really the only way to do sprite rotation on something like a SNES without having to hand draw all the possible rotations.

One example I know is that Worms 2/Armageddon/World Party actually have separate sprites for each possible rotation of the weapons.

>>154835691
middle mouse button isn't uncommon

>>154835691
left click I assume selects the unit? Only real solutions I can think of are:
key+mouse2
mouse1+mouse2
mouse3 (hold down middle mouse and move mouse to move).
mouse2 (holding it down allows you to turn the camera but this comes with the issue that your unit will move unless you make the unit move on release and not down).

>>154835640
>>154835207
isn't it just due to the SNES resolutions?

if the image aren't scaled as
>>154834230
shown.

then the rixels won't be there too.

if u zoom into the image,
you can see that each "triangle" are multiple pixels too.

>>154835849
You can turn off the notification of it, but you cannot actually ignore reblog. I find it annoying as well because there is always that one blog that has to reblog at least 40 times a day. I'm convinced he literally clicks reblog on anything that shows up on his feed.

I feel like all reblogs should automatically come with a #reblog tag so you can filter the tag.

I'm just gonna jump in on this topic and say the concept describe here
>>154835842
would be better described by the term "betwixels" (betwixt and pixels). Mixels just sounds like it describes mixed pixel sizes.

>>154835640
it makes sense, considering they didn't have the resolution to do otherwise. It's a think that only snes did, isn't it?

>>154835979
Yeah, it's because SNES resolution is like 256x224 or 256x240. Additionally, due to palette restrictions they obviously couldn't have automatic anti-aliasing to smooth things out.

However, some modern devs today use a higher internal resolution, while still presenting something akin to what SNES displayed. This then allows the game to smoothly rotate sprites without any jaggies. Some people like this, some don't.

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>Trixels

>>154836083
Does anyone actually follow those people?

They reblog something 2 minutes ago, I go check their feed and they already reblogged like 10 things since.

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>>154834972
>>154835842
I made you this so you won't have to embarrass yourself in the future.

>>154835979
>isn't it just due to the SNES resolutions?
Is due to the way pixels work. It will happen at any resolution as long as you are working at 1x1 and then scaling everything up, wich is the proper way to work with small sized graphics.

>>154836238
It's not mixels because it's not misaligned. Some parts are just lower-detail than others. You can see the resolution of the armor being shared by the eyes and cheeks

>>154836332
>Some parts are just lower-detail than others
And most aggy diggers will call that mixels, because the head is being drawn at half the resolution.

>>154836231
I used to follow him and after like three days you realize this is not a one time thing and you unfollow. I don't know who wouldn't unfollow honestly but it might be those people who just follow so many people that they don't even check their feed.

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>>154835842
>This is the actual definition of mixel and was always the definition used on AGDG until dumb cunts like you came along.

>>154836238
that out of nowhere double thumbs up on 17x14.
I love it.

>>154827182

That's not 3D. That's each frame drawn by hand.

>>154836407
So if ever you have more than one pixel next to another of the same color, it's mixels?

>>154836737
2x2.
not 1x2.

>>154836136
It's called a mixel because two pixel color values are mixed to create a new value. This newfag version of mixel doesn't even make sense given the context of the guy's character being all one sprite. What you're talking about you/they/them/whoever the fuck is talking about is lack of detail.

Maybe you could call them dixels?

@154836786
>he's still going

>>154836672
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotoscoping

>>154836781
Mario in >>154834230 has several 2x2 or larger areas of color. Is that mixels?

fucking kill all americans

>>154836238
You're a fucking idiot.

>>154836840
if his hand is 2x2, it's mixels.
if his hand is , as pic,
3
5
5
3
of white area,
it's not mixels.

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Can't we all just agree that the head looks like shit and not worry about the details?

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Took some advice and made a smaller, cozier home
thoughts?

>you can't use the same word to describe two different concepts.

>you fucking agdg autists

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Added a Zombie, the NavMesh in Unity is pretty cool, it does almost all the work for me.

Shooting at it doesn't do anything and it can't do any damage to the player at the moment, textures are more like placeholders.

>>154829953

thanks!

>>154833845

I will if I can make a convincing animation for it.