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Moscow Nuked When? edition

>Official Site:
http://warthunder.com/

NOTE: You get given a premium aircraft for your first victory in game!
Need a faster download? Switch Language in Launcher.

>Wiki with Release Trees and General Tactics:
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php

>Fan created skins, missions, locations, fictions etc...
http://live.warthunder.com/ (Warning! Pure weeaboo and horsefucker autism abound)

>Ammunition Types
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Category:Ammunition

>All the Air RB/SB maneuvers you would want to know + Engine thingamabobs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200974026

>Every Airplane Instrument Panel translated
http://www.mediafire.com/view/q4nybrogygdchdb/ND's_aircraft_reference_guide.pdf

>Youtube Channel with Tutorials and Gameplay Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/galahadgawain/playlists

>Steam community:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warthundervg

>vg chatroom:
Type " /join vg " into chatbox.
If prompted for a password, use "memes".

>Joystick Comparisons:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/joystick-roundup_8.html

>DIY Headtracking
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-build-your-own-ir-head-tracker/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161710468074

>Chart displaying weapon effectiveness against ground units
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H1_cSnYKSKbU6Giql2bMDdFoXefeq6ENWuvjQbtquMs
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>>154811829
great deduction skills Sherlock
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ded game
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>game is pretty fun
>find out about user missions
>download a cool one, can use some jets to shoot down bombers
>oh neat, kinda want to try jets atleast against some bots
>need to unlock the plane before you can use it even in user missions

why
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>>154815449
NO

FUN

ALLOWED
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>>154815449
Why do they not allow test flights for planes you haven't unlocked again? It's an amazing system done wrong since testing a certain plane could make a person want it enough to spend cash to unlock it faster.
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>>154816202
because then there's no incentive to grind for a plane in order to just fuck around with it
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>>154816202
why did they remove the ability to use different ordinance on test drives?

no one fucking knows
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>night battle in P-61

wew
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>>154816856
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>>154816936
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>>154817002
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>>154817083
spooped
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>>154817250
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Guys, how the fuck do i do well in a M36?
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>>154818674
Fuck off
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>>154819446
Like and subscribe
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>>154820661
Support me on Patreon
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why
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so when are we getting a UAZ with an atgm?
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>>154820712
Buy my merchandise
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>>154818674
NICE!
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>>154821432
Check out and subscribe to my other channels
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>>154815449
you used to be able to fly planes you didn't own in user missions and then they patched that long ago
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Do you think 1949 will be group under 1947 when T-55 comes?
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What cancer will we get today?
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when?
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>want to enjoy tanks
>cannot enjoy tanks
>ultraslav
>bouncy mechanics
also pic related
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>warthunder
>spawning when uptiered
>not blocking teammates when uptiered because if you cant have fun, noone can
>not driving tanks that dont care bout tiering
Smh desu senpai
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>>154823061
I hope not after Gaijin made the M60 grind
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https://warthunder.com/en/news/4246-special-battle-of-britain-en/

How generous, they took a bunch of cheap packs and combined them and only took a small percent off that.
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Should I use my gold eagles on the new Leopard, Cougar or the giant nazi bomber?
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>>154827332
Why would you GE rp? Its like the most inefficient use of GE next to using it to buy SL.
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>>154827327
>have to go home for work over the weekend
>won't be able to unlock the doggo icon
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>>154827932
Where are you now?
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>>154828058
Doggo please reapond
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>>154828058
Greek history class room 2050 SH
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>>154828584
Why would you take greek history?
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>>154828890
To learn
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>tfw no qt boredom bf to crossdress for you
why is life filled with such pain?
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Is the J2M4 Kai any good? I got a 50% discount for it
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>>154829028
Why not romans or some shit?
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>>154829131
yeah its pretty fun to fly and easy to make good amounts of RP
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>>154829168
That was last semester silly.
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>>154829274
What are you majoring in?
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>>154828584
>mfw get in greek class thinking it would be just about philosophy and wars
>mfw forced to "learn" ancient greek language
shittiest language to exist
even latin would be more useful
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>>154829274
Are you a history major?
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>>154829131
It's fun when it works. It's worse than the J2M3 in every way below ~6k meters, but performs better than a P-51D at really high (8500-9000m+) altitudes.
Griffons dick it left, right, up, and down, but that's true for most planes.

Probably a dumb buy with that new jap high-alt fighter being added.
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>>154829065
>qt boredom bf
>not gumby
shit taste tbqh famalam
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Okay so realistically, will the Cougar be any good? It's probably gonna be fast as fuck in top speed but with slow acceleration and pretty sluggish overall, no?
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>>154829321
>>154829469
Criminal justice. Essentially the no bully degree.
And a history minor.
>>154829453
Latin us actually useful. Ancient Greece is worthless.
>tfw Greek map is arcade
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>>154829629
Depends on BR
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>>154829815
How can you possibly have any doubts that it will be anywhere other than 9.0?
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>>154829620
>gumby
>bf
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>>154829798
Would you arrest us for bullying, doggo?
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>>154829908
I would give you a real harsh talking to.
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>>154829978
Are youngoing to become a cop?
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ebin
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>>154830509
>those graphics
>45fps
Ebin
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WTG used to run better on late 2000's computers
i think the hi-def textures and new phisics really messed up performance
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>>154831028
Maybe you should upgrade your toaster
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>>154831028
>more calculations and improved looks makes the minimum requirements go up
who would've thunk it
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>>154831028
>i think the hi-def textures and new phisics really messed up performance
Really makes you think.
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http://warthunder.com/en/news/4252-competitions-win-a-zotac-amp-omega-geforce-gtx-970-en/

So generous today
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Even if the the Douglas A2D Skyshark was shit, I'd still want it. In all honesty I just want more turboprops in the game.
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>>154831328
>970
god DAMN how did they afford this
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I bought a new ASUS motherboard the othef day and it has WoWS key and bonus content on it. Why doesnt WT do this?
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>>154818674
Fuck off boad sliding cancer.
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>>154831912
You can give it to me if you don't want to.
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Literally a hachi-roku.

How can other planes even compete?
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>>154832042
Why
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>>154832207
Because I'll find it very helpful in supierior ship game.
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Are japanese tanks still a thing or it is already with the bomber cockpits group?
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Hunter F6 when?
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>>154832281
Ill think about it once i get home today
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>>154832424
Are you from America by any chance?
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>>154832468
W-why?
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>>154832824
Codes are separate for NA and EU.

If you're NA guess I'll have to pass.
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>>154832207
>>154832281
>>154832297
>>154832390
>>154832424
>>154832468
>>154832824
>>154832042
>>154831912
Autistic samefag
>posted from my Sabre
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>>154832946
i live in Brazil
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>>154832993
Guess the code is yours then.

Might as well use it, wows is kind of fun
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>mfw all these (You)s
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>>154834031
fuck off renamed
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>200mb patch
>no patchlog
t-thanks
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>>154833074
>wows
>fun
Have fun with pointing and clicking and rolling the dice all day.
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>>154834349
Shut up goyim they work hard now upvote me
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>shilka & vulcan get unlimited AP ammo
>gepard is limited to 40 shots gone in 2,2 seconds
allied bias is real.
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>>154834349
i think they switched their compiler to a recent version, they are hard at work
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How does this not surprise me.
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>>154834495
Desu I missed rolling the dice after playing so many battles in IT-1
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>>154835136
shut up racist american its just the same but maybe did some changes but they work hard leave them alone

>downvoted
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>>154834093
>being this triggered
>projecting this hard
Not even one of the ts pedophiles, shitposter. One more (you) for me either way.

>>154834695
>allied bias
t. false-flagging slav chimp
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I havent seen triahx in a long time guys
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>>154836149
Who cares, hope he died in a painful way now fuck off.
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>>154834349
client stability)))))
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Flak 88 nazi half track is todays update.

They posted the devblog and now just deleted it when i clicked on it, i wonder why
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>>154837148
Link was :
http://warthunder.com/en/news/4244-development-8-8cm-flak-37-sf-auf-s-zgkw-18t-a-heavyweight-flak-en/

Seems like its back up now
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>>154837148
fuckign yes yes yes yes
i want this thing so bad
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/52swvz/i_think_i_found_our_new_helmetpotato/
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TRAX
R
A
X

https://youtu.be/sjQEsZ3dvIs
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>>154837272
>>154837148
>artillary truck
>in a game where maps are too small for artillary to even work
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>>154837456
its a AA truck you retarded piece of shit
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>add a vehicle with the full intention of it being a TD instead of SPAA

wew, fun am I right guys? haha ground forces is so great
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>>154837456
>artillery truck
fucking retard
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>>154837456
>artillary truck

Wow how can Trump even compete? I am now a #HillaryArtillary
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>>154837556
>>154837517
Did you even read?

>Designed initially as heavy tractor for heavy artillery and as a recovery vehicle capable of towing tanks from critical situations.
>it was during the Second World War that the Sd.Kfz. 9 was employed as a platform for artillery.
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>>154837550
am i the only one who uses SPAAGs to actually clear the sky? because thats what im going to use the 8,8 for , i actually got really good at shooting down planes with tank guns but the limited elevation and traverse usually fucks me over but not anymore for i am 8.8cm Flak 37 (Sf.) auf s. Zgkw. 18t destroyer of planes and crusher of planefaggot dreams
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>>154837517
Wrong

SenioadministratorJust now1
it's not AA vehicle. it's a TD and will be in the open-topped TD line, rank 2
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>>154837683
did you, retard?
>The vehicle became a mobile Anti-Aircraft Artillery and Tank Destroyer capable of mounting several configurations of weaponry.

what do you think the 'Flak' that's in the name stands for?
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>>154837752
>>154837797
thats retarded af the name Flak literally means "Flugabwehrkanone " (anti aircraft cannon/gun/artillery) i know that they where used to attack tanks too but imo it should be a SPAAG (with 190 points spawn cost to make up for the gun )
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>>154837871
Its not AA Gaijin admin confirmed
See >>154837797
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>>154837752
The Ostwind will probably still be the superior choice. I can't imagine the traverse of the 88 will be faster and the reload speed and consistent rate of fire of the Ostwind will almost certainly have it beat, plus the Ostwind has more armour.

Fuck, the flak truck might even be better unless they add proper explosive shells and shrapnel.
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>>154837272
>it's not going to be a prem
Nice.

>>154837361
>mfw helmet got b& for trolling r/warthunder/

>>154837365
>off-topic, unrelated cancerous shitposting
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>>154837937
It wont be a SPAAG, its a TD in WT

SenioadministratorJust now0
they were used as TDs mostly

Deal with it naziboo, its in the marder line rank 2. Cry more.
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>>154837946
ok Senio
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>>154838083
why should i cry? it still has massive elevation and good traverse and idc if my spawn is 150 or 190 points since i will spawn first in it anyways nothing can stop me from using it as SPAAG
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>rank 2
>88 cannon

In hoping the BR is gonna be in the 5s.....
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>>154837959
yeah the ostwind is great but its just not that satisfying to shoot down a plane with it than with a 8,8 or other large bore cannons
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>>154838268
4.3 i guess its only the "short" 8,8 so it shouldnt deserve being near the Nashorn with the long 88
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>>154838167
>>154838083
>>154837937
>>154837871
It doesn't matter what the designation is, it's going to be a meme as a tank destroyer and dogshit as a SPAA.

Imagine using that rate of fire and reload time on ground forces trying to kill attackers, holy shit.

It could even be the worst German SPAA, I'm not even exaggerating.
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100th aniversary of the first Tank action.

- Gaijin celebrate the Battle of Britain.... again.

I think maybe they hadn't noticed.
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>>154838275
Until you miss with the 88 and it's too late to make correcting shots, or the plane is flying too awkwardly or fast.

Unless you specifically want to shoot med alt (for GF) bombers that are flying in straight lines then you might as well just play it as a TD, because it'll be shit compared to almost any other German SPAA.
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>>154838415
if i can reliably shoot down planes with my Tiger and Nashorn i will be able to do it with a halftrack with better traverse and better elevation
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>>154838526
i nevr said its better than the proper AA guns i just said i have more fun with bigger cannons and i have gotten really good at it
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>>154838557
And you could more easily kill them in a Ostwind or Whirbelwindnigger. Fact of the matter is you're only getting retard kills in an 88.
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>>154838557
Shooting down retards that fly straight line approaches in slow or large frame aircraft with decent velocity tank gun isn't difficult. I don't know what BR it'd be but there will almost certainly be a more preferable choice (and probably one you could make even just depending on whether you want better armour or better rate of fire).
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>>154838716
>>154838710
he isnt even argueing against it being shit for AA work he just says its more fun

why is this general so autistic about a shitty F2P game
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>>154838557
SenioadministratorJust now0
Universae, it is NOT an AAA
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>Saipan
>Allies circle at 500 meters around A
>pick them off in the Zero

Why are they so retarded? With altitude they can fuck the Japs every time. But they always dive to deck and go straight to the runway.
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>>154838649
For an ebin 360 noscope every now and then, sure, but if there's another SPAA on the team then they will have an incredible advantage over you, and if you fail to kill an attacker that isn't braindead then you're a very easy kill.
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>>154838817
It's literally not going to be more fun, though. The Wirbelwind is the most fun German SPAA and easily top 5 of the most fun German vehicles you can play if only for using HVAP on tanks. As a pure SPAA itself (not a TD), the Ostwind is even better than the Wirbel. The 88 will not be better in any way than these two vehicles.

It's not fun to gimp yourself to try to get more difficult kills and get fewer rewards in a shit game mode.
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>>154838817
I bet youre one of those autistic fucks who drives the ASU-57 on top of cliffs and then drives off to act like youre being parachuted in
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>>154839074
but i have more fun that way why is that so hard to grasp for your autistic mind ??
>>154839226
no i plaster it with bushes and park in the woods and wait
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>>154839285
Bushes are OP, right? You can't see what tank it is and where to shoot.
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>>154837456
It's a tractor.
Installing AA guns onto trucks for mobile anti-aircraft batteries was pretty common. Obviously for somethign as big, and heavy as 88 mm you need something stronger and heavier than Opel Blitz.
So artillery tractors were used.
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>>154839406
they are pretty OP and making them that expensive was a dick move im glad i bought them when they where like 1k GE for a full set of 6
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>>154838415
Gaijin should finally introduce airburst shells. For some reason they exit only as AI batteries in Air Battles. UI wise all the need is ability to set either burst altitude or distance. Or just make it behave as proximity shell, not very realist, but best for purpose.
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>>154838864

>That JG shitter

lol
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>>154837272
>germans get a tier 2 nuke launcher
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>>154837361
>reddit
dumb frogposter
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>>154838864
>>154839740
pls no bully
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>patch is released
>american jet teams get flooded by shitters flying the F9Fs to grind the Cougar
pls no
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>>154840532
Posted from all my T-34s?
75mm M3 is pretty good as well but not a literal nuke launcher
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Anon said there'd be dev server today

Where is it, anon
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>>154840880
>German 88mm is the same as American M3
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>>154841068
That can be killed by mg fire.
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>>154841217
>armour mattering if you play tanks properly
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T-35,SMK or Neubaufahrzeug ? i want something to club in low tier matches
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>>154841217
Armor is meaningless when you can sit back and one hit everything
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>>154841068
Did I say that? Show me where I said that.
I'm just saying other nations have good APHE/APCBC launching guns in Tier 2.
Hell I specifically said the M3 75 wasn't a nuke launcher.
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>>154841307
M22
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>>154841472
that thing is more fun in tier 5 than it is in low tier matchups
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just when I thought I could quit, the cougar shows up
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WEW LADS

http://warthunder.com/en/news/4244-development-8-8cm-flak-37-sf-auf-s-zgkw-18t-a-heavyweight-flak-en/
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Did they recently nerf hispanos or something? Head-ons that would be 99/100 a month ago are now only granting me Hit+ ))))
Seriously, enemies flying straight at me and letting me dump a good 100-150 rounds in them before I break somehow don't just disintegrate. They just keep flying like nothing happened.
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>>154841880
>The 88mm cannon is capable of penetrating the armour of most ground vehicles and a well aimed shot can eliminate many of them with a single shell.
>and a well aimed shot
>well aimed shot
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>>154841880

looks stupid
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>>154841608
M8 it rekts in low tier matches. That entire Clap light line is just so satisfying. I really wish they would add in a Nazi light line and maybe Teeb.
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https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/330721-f9f-8/

data sheet for the cougar if any of you lads care
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>>154841608
>m22 in tier 5

Thanks for being the asshole who literally wastes a team slot.
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>>154841307
>i want something to club in low tier matches
2cm flakpanzer Gepard
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anyone got a cheat sheet of non-assfucked american planes? did i already choose wrong?
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>>154842732
How did they get a hold of this?
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>>154838864
>literally whos sharing their shit matches again
stop.
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>>154842896

it's literally a dev who posted it
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>>154840532
t. triggered slavboo, salty that the germans get something with a half-decent gun that might pose a threat to their stalinium plated meme pyramids

>>154840641
t. triggered /reddit/ cuck
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>>154842947
Tell him to post tank stats
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>>154842865
everything apart from the P-40 and F4U-1c and cannon P-51 is great, those two will get outclassed by most planes they face
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>>154843212

>tanks
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>>154842732
>1041
fastest plane in the game, they said
1140 kph, they said
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>>154843217

the F4U1-c is actually not terrible

it's really easy to get 3-4 kills every game with it considering it's a plane with 4x hispanos and over 800 rounds of ammo
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>>154842865
For RB get dat F6F and spade it. Learn to fly USA planes properly and you can use it successfully in air and combined since it can carry bombs and teeny tims. P-47 also good for same aspect but F6F is quicker grind.

If you just want to stomp butts in AB get a three plane lineup of the P-51 with hispanos, P-39 (or bf109 prem) and either hellcat/p47 or the xp38g.
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>>154843336
I heard that cat died
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>>154842732
>Ground run to takeoff, m (ft)
>1228 (4030)

lmao good luck taking off those 300 meter airfields on 80% of the maps
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>>154843217
>>154843565
thanks
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>>154843217
both P-40 and P-51 are pretty good, P-51 is actually one of my favourite planes
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>>154843460
not hispanos, thos are an/m2

they do NOT get air target belts and will jam quicker than hispanos if fired for too long
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>>154843748
Cougar is an air start
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>>154843460
>>154843785
if you're fighting retards, yeah
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f9f without fuel tanks when
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>>154843897
I play on RUS so, yeah

Half enemy team is dead on crashing with each other during takeoff
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>>154843857
proof?
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>>154842865
F4F is very agile
F6F much less, but still decent if used properly. Speed is your life. Also excellent ordinance.
F4U will get you PTSD
F8F is F6F in steroids.
P-36G is king of manouverability, and only P-36 you want to fly.
P-40 is start of American-style energy fighting
P-39 is so, so. Little bit of everything, but doesn't exceel at anything, really.
P-51 hispano is pretty average. Not bad, but nothing to write home about.
P-47 is great, but only if you know how to use it. Expect steep learning curve.
P-63 is P-39 on steroids.
P-61 is good at everything, that isn't air combat. Good lawn mover, good fast bomber.
P-51D go fast, go high or die like bitch.
P-82 overwhelming firepower, but handles like a truck
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>>154843796

you can hold the trigger down on the corsair for fucking ages without jamming wtf are you talking about


>>154843897

>if you're fighting retards

it's a f2p game, it's fucking full of them
>>
Has everyone else seen this "Sneak Peak"?

http://warthunder.com/en/news/4242-development-sneak-peek-for-war-thunder-update-1-63-desert-hunters-en/

A lot of literal who's in here in terms of vehicles
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>>154844072
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>>154843897
which you are, it's a 3.7
80% was pushing it, but 70 is good too
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>>154844003
>80%=70%
>calls me a retard
>deletes post thinking nobody saw it
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>>154844128
>M56
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>154844212
SHIT I didn't think you'd respond that fast, anyway yeah my record is good check me out IGN: DI0
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>>154844169

>posting white nationalist symbolism

disgusting desu
>>
>yak3p kills 3 sabers on Korea
god damn you can't make this shit up.
>>
>>154844212
removing typos is a good use of the delete function, I really can't see what's wrong with it
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>>154844240
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>>154844128
What the fuck is an FV4202?
>>
>hit tab to check scoreboard
>it stays for half a second then vanishes
It's amazing how they keep managing to break stuff
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>>154844523
I wonder if the gunner squats when you aim straight up
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>>154844523
GLA GLA GLA
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>>154844614
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>>154844128
Wow nazibias patch. They now have 2 Leos, 2 ATGMs, and thr Gepard
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odds i play BF4

evens i play dota or PoE based on coin flip
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>>154844240
Looks like a fish
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>>154844128
I don't give the remotest shit about any of those except the F9F-8
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Launcher is updating. More than 6 GB.

My money is this weekend.
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>>154844685
>3 vehicles half the player base probably will never have
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>>154844240
>16xRP-3
more rockets for me in ground forces
n i c e
>>154844959
updates usually come tuesday / thursday
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>>154844976
Except for you know
... anyone who plays 8.0
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>tfw you manage to evade the enemy and whittle it down to a 1v1 from a 4v1 by attrition
>manage to destroy all the enemy vehicles before he gets mine
>still lose
Fuck. I knew I should have used my vehicles as bait instead.
>>
Has there been any word on BR changes in 1.63?
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>>154844976
>Tfw just slapped a talisman on my Leo for this patch alone :^}
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>>154845025
I meant the dev server opening.
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>>154845115
or guys like memer lemur who wil buy it with real shekels
>>
>>154844959
>>154845025
Test server still has yet to come
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>>154845202
yeah, that's highly plausible.
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>>154844493
Not only that, when that happens the chat also changes from team to all, even if the chat isn't open

Fucking neato gaijincompetent retards
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>>154844128
>Hudson
>Premium
>Not the Brigand

Why do they do this to me? It's like they hate useful aircraft and want to start doing what WoT did with all the experimental shit.
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>drop 3 ton bomb on all these clustered tanks
>2x Ground unit destroyed
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>>154844462
Its a WoT tank

>Experimental vehicle on the basis of the Centurion medium tank. Developed from 1956 through 1959. Never entered mass production. Technical innovations used in the FV4202 were later reapplied to the FV4201 Chieftain.


Gaijin is padding the chieftain grind to make it longer now
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Does anyone have that M56 recoil webm that was recently posted?
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>>154845484
Yeah, they're padding the Leo grind too. Now you have to grind twice as many ٩(๑`^´๑)۶
>>
What is the best tank BR to play at?
>>
>>154845661
Difference is you get two leos, teeb will now get another useless Centurion based tank.
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>>154845158

I haven't played for a long time but coming back, have there been ANY BR changes recently? The P-47 is still at 3.0 and all I know is that they changed the matchmaking to not use tiers any more, which explains why I was getting matched up with fucking Spitfire MkIX's while flying the first Bf-109s.
>>
Why is the T20 now premium?
>>
>>154845737
>Technical innovations used in the FV4202 were later reapplied to the FV4201 Chieftain
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>>154845976
isnt it going to be a worse T25 anyways?
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>>154845542
https://youtu.be/lbfuJvZHPmw?t=89
have this instead
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>>154846064
What innovations tho. Turrent looks exactly like Cent mk 10. Gun is the same for sure.
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>>154846267
are you drunk? look again
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>>154846715
Do I look like a russian?
>>
burgers:

>meme SPAA, jet, meme TD
>premium prototype tank

nazis:

>another fucking Leopard, meme SPAA, another fucking ATGM, 88 truck
>premium dude boat plane lmao

bongs:

>a main tree ATGM at last, another twin-engine attacker, main tree prototype dogshit Chieftain
>premium bomber, premium prototype meme tank
>another updated Spitfire model

slavs:

>meme SPAA, main tree prototype plane, another fucking GAZ truck
>premium prototype KV
>updated IS-3 & BT-7 models

nips:

>two twin engine fighters
>premium prototype plane

Wew lads, I don't even know where to begin.
>nazis get 2 main tree ATGMs as the bongs only just get their first non-premium ATGM
>all the nips are getting is 2 heavy fighters and a premium
>speaking of premiums, they're adding 6 fucking premiums and 15 main tree vehicles
>one single ground map and a single arcade air map
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Upgraded version, sporty
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>>154846267
>turrent
>>
>RakjPz 2 HOT

daily reminder
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>when the enemy fucks up and crashes but you manage to land one single hit right before he goes into the water and you get the kill for it
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>>154846267
It has some prototype turret with more slope, not the same as Chieftain's turret nor Cent Mk 10.

It has the same gun as a Cent Mk 10.
Hull armor looks identical to Cent Mk 10.


So yeah it's basically a Turret upgrade.
>>
GOD I FUCKING HATE NEW GUINEA
FUCK YOU GAIJIN, FUCK YOU
YES I AM FUCKING ASSHURT
>>
>>154847614
the hull is alot more sloped too
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>>154847742
Just don't spawn if you don't like the map. I never spawn on NG if I'm flying bong or burger, just like I don't spawn if I'm in a 8.0 plane and there are 9.0s in my team, same with 7.0s and 8.0s
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>>154844128
Figures. All the shit I'm interested in is premium paywalled. Another total letdown "update" from gaijew.

>>154844685
>nazibias
t. triggered slavboo shill

>>154844334
>forcing the 'pepe is white nationalist symbol!" sjw /reddit/ cancer
>>>r/NAMBLA
You need to go back, cancer.
>>
>>154847789
I can barely notice that when comparing the pic to my Cent Mk 10.
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>>154844685

It won't be a new ATGM, its going to be a new ammo type I think. Either way, it will allow the German ATGM to fire with the mouse, not the WASD.

I think that's what it is. Anybody feel free to correct me.
>>
>>154840968
right here senpai https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/330874-dev-server-opening-with-update-163-desert-hunters/
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/330625-preliminary-update-notes-for-163-desert-hunters/
>proper optics for Tier 5
fucking finally
>>
>>154848091
>For all ground vehicles of the 5th rank, the multiplicity of the optical sights has been set up in accordance with the real models. This change is intended to equalize the chances of tanks in a confrontation with vehicles equipped with ATGMs.


what did they mean by this?
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>>154847901
Problem is that, that will crew lock me. I'd rather let some nipshitter kill me and be back in game in a few minutes than have to wait out the crew lock.
Alt-F4 isn't an option since I queue in the background and can't do it in time.
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>>154848330
It means you'll finally have proper zoom, like STRV has it. Check ATGMs and compare their zoom to normal one, it's way better. They nerfed this shit few updates ago, but we're finally getting some proper shit
>>
>>154848413
If I get crew locked I just go play a different nation for ten minutes.
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>>154848479
so it only affects ATGM?
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>>154848218

>Mouse Guided ATGM.
>Arguably Faster than the Leopard, with both forward and reverse.
>As low of a profile as the IT-1

GERMAN BIAS STRIKES AGAIN!
>>
>>154848014
>>154848218
Wait a minute, it's not seriously a fucking copypaste with a new ATGM/launcher stuck on is it?
>>
>>154848639
No, it affects "all ground vehicles of the 5th rank", didn't you read the greentext you wrote? >>154848330
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>>154848834
I can't read english
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>>154848804
you got it
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>>154848743
>>As low of a profile as the IT-1
>implying this fucking hard
>implying it's anywhere near as small as the IT-1
>GERMAN BIAS
>all this slavboo chimp salt
>all this slavboo chimp false-flagging
>>
>just get home from work
>20 mins until dev server

Wew`
>>
>>154848804
The Raketenjagdpanzer-2 was put into service from 1967 inside tank destroyer companies of the Panzer-grenadier, each brigade having height vehicles. Panzer brigades tank destroyer companies received an organic strength of thirteen vehicles. By 1978 the type was obsolescent, and an upgrade was applied to all but two of them. After the upgrade, the whole serie was renamed Jaguar-1 or Raketenjagdpanzer 3. It was focused both on protection, with add-on armour to the front glacis and hull sides, side skirts, and had a brand new HOT missile system to go along. Conversions ended in 1982. The Jaguar-1 were kept in service until the 1990s. The Raketenjagdpanzer-4 Jaguar 2 resulted in the conversion of 162 Kanonenjagdpanzers in 1982-85.
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/West_Germany/Raketenjagdpanzer-2.php
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>Bv-238
>Brigand
>Su-6
>Ki87
>J1N1

Can you stop pulling out "Literally Whats" out of your asses Gaijin?

Where's the P-51B and Cs?
Where are the Razorback P-47
Where's the MC205s and Fiat G.55s?
Where's the Piaggio P.108?
Where's the B-26 Marauder?

I mean, are they serious with some of this shit? What the fuck is a Su-6??? I know the Hudson and I know about the one Japanese bomber, but the rest of this stuff is fucking stupid
>>
>>154848976
it's better than the IT-1 in every way possible.
>>
>>154849127
>Where's the P-51B and Cs?
>Where are the Razorback P-47
I'd rather have one unique literally what than three dozen variants of the same plane.
>>
>>154849157
>no turret
>shit armor
>no memeslopes
>>
>>154848091
>From 19.00 GMT on September 15th until 07:00 GMT on September the 16th
>it's closed now
I fucking hate timezones, what is 19:00 GMT in CET?
>>
What exactly is the point of a sub-12 hour dev server? They don't even allow you to instantly buy all the tanks to test them.
>>
>>154849509
The point is when you have 500% boost on everything so you can research tier 5 tanks in under an hour
>>154849491
It will be open in 9min senpai, timezones aren't that hard
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>>154849157
>slavboo chimp shill STILL false-flagging
>Posted as I fire from my turret down position, completely safe from enemy fire
>Posted as I fire across the map, outside of realistic range of the missile and killing fags while using ULQ settings
>posted from my machine that has no deadzone or minimal activation of the range
>Literally posted from my 3-5 second reload machine
>posted from my machine that cannot be ammoracked
>>
>>154849509
Letting youtube shills who can afford to buy all the new stuff with gold make a video about it and get babbys hyped. It's not actually intended for people to test things and find issues.
>>
>>154849667
The last time I played the dev server last patch I couldn't even get in a game to "grind", and this was after being queue for 10min +.
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Reminder its exactly 100 years since the fist usage of tanks in WW1.

Happy holiday bastards.
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>>154848413
that's why you alt + f4 the moment you see the name of the map show up
>>
>>154849672
>Posted while firing a 1000mm+ pen tandem charge HEAT rocket
>>
>>154849509
It's for people that buy GE to buy the new tanks. This isn't like WoT where they give you Gold and tons of Silver to buy everything and actually let you test for days to get data.

WT Dev Server is a glorified preview, changes never happen because people barely test.
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>>154849830

>He plays tanks
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>>154849830
desu I was kinda shocked when I learned that tanks existed so long ago. I think I used to have this idea in my mind where the 1900s-1930s were like prehistoric times, but there was actually a lot of science and technology being developed
>>
THREE MINUTES
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>>154850215
>ETA on full client: 24 minutes
Fuck it I'll just fly the Cougar in low res
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>>154842732
>IAS limit, km/hr (knots) 1074 (580)
>Mach limit 1.05
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I think this is the first time I've played a Norway match that lasted long enough for the landing craft to spawn.

>>154849870
I already specified why that's not an option.
>>
>>154850215
ITS UP
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>>154850094
Reminder Romans had concrete and Christianity fucked us over for a literal thousand years.
>we could have had space tanks and space slaves by now
>>
>>154849895
>i-i-it's only fair and balanced when slavs have useful weapons!
>Posted as I fire from my turret down position, completely safe from enemy fire
>Posted as I fire across the map, outside of realistic range of the missile and killing fags while using ULQ settings
>posted from my machine that has no deadzone or minimal activation of the range
>Literally posted from my 3-5 second reload machine
>posted from my machine that cannot be ammoracked
>>
LOL

FV4202 is 6.0 BEFORE Cent Mk 3

WTF LOL

51/51/51 mm Hull
240/89/92 mm Turret


NO APDS LOLOLOLOL

218 pen APCBC

MY FUCKING SIDES
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It's beautiful lads
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Acceleration isn't amazing but it has Sabre-tier rollrate
>>
>>154850510
look at those high quality textures
>>
Shilka has 45mm pen ammo API-T, goes 56 km/h which is more than it did historically from waht I read....

Gepard PSBH/B does 112mm pen

RakjPz 2 HOT only has one missle, 800mm pen, 240m/s

Flak 8.8cm is a 3.7 T, 145mm pen

M163 does up to 40 mm pen
>>
>>154850739
oh great i get to fight another jet that can hold down the roll key to make itself impossible to hit
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>>154850461
>le "there was no scientific research in the middle ages" meme


don't even reply to me, this is not the place or the time for it.
>>
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/330874-dev-server-opening-with-update-163-desert-hunters/

dev server open right now
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It's having a hard time reaching 1000 kph, also it doesn't have WEP
>>154850748
I haven't bothered downloading the full client, it'll look fine on the live server.
>>
>>154850986
prove it you subhuman slavaboo chimp redditor cuckold
>>
>>154850471
>posted from my very hard to use German tank
>>
>>154850986
>mfw if you claimed world was round Pope would burn you at the stake
PROGRESS!

>19th century
>pope would burn you at the stake if he could because translating hieroglyphs is a sin
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>10gb """update""" for the dev server
>mfw 2hr+ download
>mfw I'll likely not even get a match on the server at all
Suffering.

>>154850986
>>>r/pedophilepride/
Go back, and stay there cancer. You clearly do not belong here.
>>
>>154848267
I wonder if it will be a tank destroyer or something they put in front of the sheridan
>>
>>154851242
Server's open until tomorrow morning bongtime.
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they changed chieftain's sights
>>
>>154851152
>i-i-it's only fair and balanced when slavs have useful weapons!
>Posted as I fire from my turret down position, completely safe from enemy fire
>Posted as I fire across the map, outside of realistic range of the missile and killing fags while using ULQ settings
>posted from my machine that has no deadzone or minimal activation of the range
>Literally posted from my 3-5 second reload machine
>posted from my machine that cannot be ammoracked

+10GE
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It stays at around 1040 after coming out of a dive, redlines at around 1070
>>
>>154850761

Where is the new Open Top TD the Americans have?
>>
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Oh God
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>>154851436
>denying that German bias exists this fucking hard

ayy lmao
>>
>>154851486
I'll checka fter my game, i forgot about it.
>>
Someone post the updated Trees or at least the BR and where the new tanks are at.

Thanks in advance.
>>
>>154851436
nigga you say that like if the Jaguar couldn't do the same shit.
>>
>>154851362
That's all fine and good, but the last time I tried the dev server, could not get a game after 20 minutes in the queue.

Shit's a bigger ghost town than the Armored Warfare servers.
>>
>>154851486
M56, light clap line, 6.7
APCR is default @ 271mm
Has a 320mm HEAT-FS
>>
>Special: Battle of Britain

Wait what?
>>
>>154851636
I'll upload the trees to an imgur album, it's faster. Just need to finally finish this stupid download
>>
>>154851764
Don't go to random battles, go to custom battles.
>>
>>154851773
>Tank Destroyer
>in Light tank line

wat?
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Acceleration above 800 kph is atrocious, this plane isn't going to outrun any 9.0 jet.
>>
>Centurion Mk III - Damage Model and X-ray fixes (ammo rack allocation has been fixed)

What does this mean? Shells disappear more as you use them?
>>
>>154850325
mach speed is different on different altitudes
>>
>Tracer effects have been improved.
>Tank fire effects, explosions and ammo rack fire effects have been improved.

Any screenshots?
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>tfw nazibunker
>>
I think the FV4202 is the best meme of this update.
>>
>>154852430
what ammo does it get? L7 HEAT-FS?
>>
>>154851584
>>154851718
>slavboo chimp shills going all out
>i-i-it's only fair and balanced when slavs have useful weapons!
>Posted as I fire from my turret down position, completely safe from enemy fire
>Posted as I fire across the map, outside of realistic range of the missile and killing fags while using ULQ settings
>posted from my machine that has no deadzone or minimal activation of the range
>Literally posted from my 3-5 second reload machine
>posted from my machine that cannot be ammoracked

>>154851852
>>go to custom battles
Why would I waste my time with """"""sim"""""ushitter cancer?
>>
>>154852650
No, APCBC in a 84pdr gun
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>>154852650
its on 6.0 and has a 20pdr i think (no APDS)
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all this IT-1 memeing is making me want to grind it
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>>154852734
84 pdr would be f u n
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>>154852863
ATGM rule 8.0 so you may as well get one
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>10x RP and SL bonus
>can't even get into battles in the first place

literally why can't we just get the new content right away if it's the fucking dev server
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>>154852889
It's a Cent Mk 3 gun with no APDS

Literally every other 84 pdr tank has APDS.

Gaijin legit threw a prototype tank in that's absolute garbage into the main tree for no good reason
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>>154853051
its a 20pdr aka 84mm thats what i said goddamn
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Sustained and zoom climb aren't that great either
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>>154850492
>tfw still no Centurion Mk.1
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Had to dive from 8300 m to rip its wings
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>>154853004
Because people unironically pay to research shit faster on a dev server. You get to keep GE you spent on dev server anyway
>>
Maybe they just forgot to give the FV4202 APDS
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>>154853648
lol
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>>154853454
Ah good, the "IAS warning" speed they listed was just the pointless red thing.
>>
>>154853648
at 6.0 it really really shoudlnt have the 285mm pen APDS imo the APCBC is plenty enough at that BR
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>>154853853
It faces Tiger IIs, are you fucking serious? The fuckign Cent Mk 3 is 6.3 with 285 mm APDS.

The Charioteer is 6.0 with 285mm APDS
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>>154853853
There's absolutely no reason to even use the FV4202, just like the Challenger. The comet at 5.3 has nearly as much pen as the FV4202 with its APDS.

Like the Challenger the FV4202 will be yet another tank you grind past with Caervarvon/Charioteer to get to the Cent Mk 3. It was a useless tank to add to the main tree and adds 0 value.
>>
>>154853992
>arcade
>>154854176
im not saying it isnt filler im just saying that it has enough pen
just look at the Tiger E that is at 6.0 too
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>>154854310
Shit excuse. No one wants a tank that nearly has less pen than a 5.3 tank. No one is going to use it at all, it's literally useless. There's no good reason to use it over Caer/Charioteer or even Comet for that matter.
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>>154854470
its not all about penetration

i assume you only play arcade?
and yeah why should i use a 6.0 tank over tanks that are a higher BR thats true
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I just got memed in my chieftain by a Gepard
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>>154851970
How's the maneuverability?
>>
>>154854629
I play RB and penetration does mean a lot for Teeb You clearly never suffered through Comet pre APDS. Not to mention this tank has paper for hull armor. The only saving grace would be the turret, but who the fuck cares because the Charioteer is a better tank at 6.3 and you get APDS.

Also APDS makes a HUGE difference when it comes to bouncing too. That APCBC is going to bounce a lot more than other 20pdr APDS.

In the end it's a 20pdr cannon that is missing ammo it had historically. It's a piece of shit and there's no reason to even use it. The fact that people like you defend Gaijin for adding pieces of shit into the game amazes me and is the reason why this game is going downhill.
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Has anyone tried swingfire yet?
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>>154855246
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>>154855435
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>>154854912
i never defended i actually think that thing has no place in WT im just trying to say that it doesnt look that bad
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>>154851242
>10gb """update""" for the dev server
>mfw 2hr+ download
fuck off with your fast internet. i would kill for that internet
>>
>>154851397
how do the numers on the side works?

is it in 10s of m?
>>
>>154855628
Not sure
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>>154855586
>tfw downloaded everything at 7.4MB/s
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>>154855586
It's not about having a fast internet, the download speed gets gimped by the client. I can have 7GB game downloaded on Steam under 28min, yet this piece of shit is taking more than an hour and a half because it keeps going to "analysing files" and having to establish the connection all the time.
>>
im almost at the M46 what am i in for?
>>
>>154855770
>I can have 7GB game downloaded on Steam under 28min
i would still kill for that
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>>154856694
What ammo does it have?
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>go to custom battle in dev server so I can see the new vehicles in action
>every nigger is just shooting everything instantly and bombing shit with planes as well
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>>154856839
Default, HEI and API belt, for both max pen is 40mm at 10 meters
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>>154851831
>>154851636
Here m8, all trees with random stuff mixed in. http://imgur.com/a/LVyoO Refresh a bit, some pics might still need to upload
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>>154850986
I hope the responses you got were shitposting desu
>>
>>154857041
Here I was thinking America might finally get an annoyance on par with the kugelblitz.

Looks like it's back to Germany dominating all tiers of SPAA, oh well.
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Tier II
BR 3.7
Pzgr and HE, no air burst shells
>>
>>154857262
I don't know why you people thought it was going to be AA. They even said it's a TD and not AA
>>
http://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/611/

!!!!HAPPENING!!!!
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>>154857262
Under 5s reload on a Tiger 1 gun and ammo at 3.7BR. This thing is gonna rape
>>
>>154856861
Does the Shilka get any notable AP?
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>>154854734
Kickass rollrate, turnrate feels nice enough

Like most people predicted it's basically just a slightly faster F9F-5, not super fast but pretty agile
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>>154857207
>not playing sim events exclusively, for T5
>not bullying soviets together with other NATO buddies
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World famous KV-122 a.k.a KV-1S from wot
>>
>>154857535
I like to be the one bullying, not that kid that stands there awkwardly as the bully kicks the other kid down.
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h-here i go
>>
>>154857443
this is going to be good
>>
>>154857443
>under 5s
hooooooly
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>>154857518
nah
>>
Swingfire can basically instantly do a 90 degree turn after launch
>>
>>154857783
That is literally the reason the missile is named swingfire, you realise?
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>>154857518
it has Default, HEIT and APIT belts, max pen for both is 46mm at 10 meters
>>
the cougar has a venom FM
>>
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Updated model for the BT-7
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>>154857412
G R U M M A N
R
U
M
M
A
N
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swingfire is fun, the only weird thing is you have to look forward to shoot
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how much pen does the gepard have?
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>>154854176
the FV 4202 has a crazy angled UFP and a strong turret i think its going to be harder to knock out than Cent by far and that alone is enough reason for me to choose it over the first cent
>>
>Cougar is complete shit
wew
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>>154858275
PSBH/B Belt

112mm at 10 meters
90mm at 1000 meters
>>
What bomber carries the most bombs? Not the heaviest bombload, but the most individual bombs.

Is it the He 111?
>>
>>154858452
What exactly were you expecting

It'll be shit for a few weeks then it will get a magical buff
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>>154858275
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>>154858453
Is that the one American premium tank?
What the info on that?
>>
>>154857112
Album got fucked, here's the one with all pics

http://imgur.com/a/wifcz
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>>154858663
>>154858453
>>154858271
MURICAN tds?
>>
>can't preview without HD-tex

thanks Gaijin
>>
>>154858452

>another navy jet is shit in WT

wow I am shocked, no bias at all
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>>154858686
T20 T3 Premium
BR 4.3
76mm gun, it has M62 APHE and M79 AP
Armor seems pretty meh
>>
>>154858825
First one is the FV4202, British
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>>154858959
what this ATGM?
>>154858970
THANKS
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El Alamein is a great map.
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8 man crew

>>154859120
FV438 Swingfire
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>>154859134
typical slav player
>>
>>154859184
TOG

WHEN
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This thing looks so silly and goofy
>>
>>154859184

>Independant

will be the earliest in game tank?
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SEXY AF
>>
How are you supposed to test vehicles without just outright buying them with real money in the dev server? Even at 10x research speed there's no fucking way there's enough time to get these tier 5 tanks.
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>>154859243
Dat armament tho
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>>154859386
I'm not seeing the sexy
>>
Can you check if tier V planes RP cost changed on dev server compared to normal one?
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>>154859319
nah, it's not reserve, it's the first british tank to have APHE though
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>>154859386
Can't wait to get a user camo that doesn't look like someone scrubbed it with steel wool.
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and that's it for tanks

holy shit this thing really does have a 800mm pen ATGM
>>
>>154859414
"test" server is not for "testing". It's a preview.
>>
>>154859513

No I mean will it be the earliest historically speaking. It's a mid 20's tank.
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>>154859561
And here I thought they were nerfing the Swingfire for balance reasons and no ATGMs would get such high pen.

German bias strikes again.
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Su-6

for whatever reason it's before the IL-28 in the tech tree
>>
>>154859643
Oh, you mean the oldest. Yeah, fairly certain it is
>>
>>154859765
Superior to IL-series.
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>20 SC250s

goddamn
>>
>>154859765

EVERYONE LAUGH AT THIS RETARDED LOOKING PLANE
>>
>>154859561
POST THE NAME OF THE TANKS WITH THE SCREENSHOTS
>>
>>154859243
How many ge is it?
>>
>>154859561
is it worth grinding out? it and the sheridan are the only atgm tanks i have access to.
>>
>>154860150
>highest pen ATGM ingame
>guided by mouse
>same ability to shoot completely concealed as the IT-1
>armour that doesn't get riddled frontally by 14.5mm and 12.7mm

Go for it.
>>
>>154860150
Do you want guaranteed kills?
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>>154860115
That was RakJpz-2 HOT, there's only so few new vehicles
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>>154860116
1840 and it comes without bombs

Also the camera on it is pointing to the round so you can't see what's ahead of you
>>
>>154860320
Is it a Mig-17 killer?
>>
>>154860393
>comes without bombs

wait what?
>>
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Brigand B.1
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>>154860510
it has 20 250KG bombs idk why he is retarded like that
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>>
Hudson Mk.V
Tier 2 Premium
>>
>>154859386
wait, in the preview it had the Bundeswehr camo

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>154860594
what the fuck is that
>>
>>154860739
M46 add on armor
>>
>>154860739
Trump funded applique armour
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>>154860668
huur durr forgot pic
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>>154860726
It's gonna be like the first Leopard, so you'll have to buy it
>>
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New Spit IX model, premium variants were also updated
>>
>>154860594
so it's going to be impossible to put bushes on the m46 next patch?
started the game just to make sure mine was bushed up
>>
Should I just give up on Teeb and switch to nazi tree now that they seem to have 2 of the best MBTs, 2 ATGMs and a ZSU-57 competitor?
>>
>>154860393
What br?

Also hahaha haha fuck off gumby it's not a bundle AND it's cheap
>>
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>>154859979
The 20mm top turret can shoot through the plane
>>
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P1Y1 mod11
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-LS7Vv1MzY
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Ki-87
T4 Premium

that turbo tho
>>
>you cant put Luftwaffe icon on other aircraft anymore
well thats it for tricking Germans in sim
>>
>>154861397
how much is ?
can someone with server access make a list how much the new prem stuff is?
>>
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J1N1 mod.11

and that's it for planes
>>
>>154861513
it's in a bundle
>>
>>154861397
If it weren't for that cockpit it would looks like an american design
>>
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>mfw
>>
>>154862279

>If it weren't for that cockpit it would looks like an american design
no
>>
>>154862348
Ayyyyyy lmaooooo
>>
>>154862348
does ZSU feed from 50 round belts, or it's endless stream of bullets?
>>
>>154861226
Can I get a modifications list please?
Armament list?
>>
>>154862587
I saw someone firing one in a battle and it seemed to be in bursts.
>>
>>154860510
If you test fly it, it doesn't have bombs in the test flight mode. If you buy it it has bombs.
>>
>>154859561
Oh no, this will ruin the game for tanks with 750 mm armor.
>>
>>154862503
yes
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>>154863010
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>
>>154855435
t. triggered slavboo ape

>>154859134
>unironically being fucking awful at the game
>blames the map
slavboo ape

>>154859184
X-ray mode shot, and info on this thing pls.
>>
>yak-9k doesn't have ap ammo for the cannon

whyyyy
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>>154863201
T1 Premium
2100 Eagles
47mm Main Cannon
4 Turrets armed with 7.7mm Vickers Machine Guns
8 man crew
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>>154859694
>>154863010
>all this slav chimp salt
>all this slav chimp assblast
>all these slav chimp tears, false-flagging and shitposting
>>
>>154863495
>T1 Premium
>2100 Eagles
are they fucking serious?
>>
>>154863495
>T1 Premium
>2100 Eagles
yeah, no
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>>154863760
>>154863753
like all the other multi turret tanks (except SMK)
>>
>>154863495
>2100 shekels
Fucking dropped
u
c
k
i
n
g

d
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o
p
p
e
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>wot people are this delusional
>>
>>154863982
>/fit/
go away chad
>>
>log into dev server
>try to get a game going
>2 people waiting to play
>everyone else is circlejerking in some """sim""""ushitter custom meme
Every time.
>>
>>154862503
He's right tho. Like P-47s little brother.
>>
damn the BV 238 is ridiculous
>>
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Sinai Map
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>>154865238
>>
>cant do head to head mission editor battles to do some bot fights while waiting for friends to get on

Why does Gaijin keep removing features?
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>>154865562
>>
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>P-61
>side climb through 21,000 feet
>A7M suddenly appears high above me

American planes are fucking pointless.
>>
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so how gimped is Leo 1a1s stabiliser compared to other stabilisers?
>>
>do good in IS-2
>real fucking good
>6 kills and 5 assists
>knock out all of other teams heavy hitters
>erect statue of Stalin
>build home for old and disabled tanks
>shake hands and kiss babies with every villager
>end results
>500rp
Jesus H. Fuck, I want to reach tier V before the heat death of the universe Gaijin
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update when?

next week?
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>>154866891
tuesday probably
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>max reload speed of 4s
>on a 3.7BR TD truck
>that has same gun and APHE as the Tiger H1 and E
ayy, this gonna be good
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>>154867096
>4 second reload
>on an 88mm
JUST
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>>154867096
This almost makes me want to start playing tanks again,.
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what's the fucking point of american vehicles
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>>154867435
suffering
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>open dev server
>get daily reward (big box)
>log in on the regular server
>get the box again
>mfw
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>>154867435
if there are clubbers, there must be clubbed, right?
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>>154867765
Dev server has no bearing on real server.
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>>154858543
maybe pe-8
stock version has 40 100kg bombs iirc
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>>154867435
american fighters are really good but most of their pilots are literally braindead
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>>154867435
T29 is alot fun + nice planes to dick around in
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I haven't played this game since 1.51, is it good yet?
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>>154868765
yes
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>>154868765
no
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>>154868398
All mine seemed fond of wearing magnetic helmets.
Every other match they were catching 20mm from 2km away.
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BUK WHEN?
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>>154868765
maybe
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Boat cbt when?
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>weebs will defend this
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>>154868765

I don't know
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>climb high
>whole team grinds their face on the dirt and dies while most enemies stay at like fucking 10km alt

>try to desperately earn some fucking lions by going ground pounding
>1 or 2 vultures instantly dive on me from 5km and ignore everyone else
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>>154870368
What plen?
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>>154870704
All Americans
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>>154870926
Yeah, I don't play Americans. Can't fucking stand the retard teams. It's a shame, because I really like American planes. They're A E S T H E T I C as fuck.
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>tfw got an invite for For Honor
>tfw dev server hit
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CHOOSE
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>>154870135
All jap shit is unbalanced ufo tier cancer. How new are you?
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Patch should be called 1.63 "German Bias"
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Can't wait to see the babbys cry because the Cougar is shit
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>mfw where I live the T29 pack costs as much as a full price retail game
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b-17 is better than b-24 right?
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>>154872426
Considering that 99% of the time I see B-17s and B-29s but no B-24s, I'd say the B-24 is probably pretty bad
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>>154871404(triggered slav(e)boo chimp)
>their whole world comes crashing down
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>>154871404

Reminder, German Bias is real

>As if one Leopard wasn't bad enough, now they get the Leopard A1A1 with stabilized gun.
>As if one Leopard Tier fast, maneuverable ATGM wasn't enough, now they get another one in the main tree while other Nations just now get their first ATGM in the Main Tree. This time its Mouse Guided.
>As if the Kugelblitz wasn't bad enough, now they have another cancerous SPAA on a Leopard Chassis with 112mm HVAP.
>Unlike with other Nations that you need to research several vehicles in Tier 5 to get to best stuff, Germans only really need to unlock 2 Tanks max to get their best shit on Tier 5.

Where were you when Germany officially became the most hand held Nation in Ground Forces?
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>the F9F-8 is shit hurrr
Well I don't know what people were expecting. Actually I do know: some retards wouldn't shut up about how it could almost go 1200 kph and how it would be super maneuverable and whatnot. Well it fucking isn't, it's just another second class 9.0 like the Meteor F8 or the Venom, it was never going to be in the same league as the Sabres, MiGs and Hunter.

It's going to be a kickass support plane, but nothing more than that. Stop getting overhyped every time
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>>154872763

They already were.
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>>154872763
Stay mad
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>>154873281
>expecting a naval plane to be good
What were you thinking?
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>>154872763
They're honestly now about even, I'd say. With total vehicles they might even be even or have overtaken the Russian tree, and a second upgraded ATGM when the UK is only getting its first main tree is a joke.
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>>154873710
>expecting a naval plane to be good
because the f6f and seafire is not good
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>>154873892
The Seafires are shit and absolutely pointless when the much superior land Griffons exist at the same BRs.
>>154873710
Reading comprehension motherfucker
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>>154872763(triggered slav(e)boo chimp)
>their whole world comes crashing down
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>>154873892
The hellcat is a worse thunderbolt at the same BR.
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g-gains?
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>>154874823
idiot
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>>154874827
>38205XP

how
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>>154874827
And here I am agonizing over how even with the Black Prince it's going to take me probably like 100 battles just to get through the Conway and finally start on the Swingfire
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>>154875102
>>154875925
its the fuuuucking dev server you dolts
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>>154876350
Those xp gains should be put on the live server.
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>>154871808
>mfw for the price of the T29 (or any T4 bundle tank) I can buy 5 T4 talismans
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>>154876423
>implying gaijew will ever do anything good
>implying they'd ever do anything to make the grind less of a drawn out chore
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>>154876861
T29 > any of the tier 4 tanks

this thing is stupidly fun and pretty much the best 6.7 tank imo
>>
I think I have never seen a T95 in a match.

is it really that bad?
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>>154877746
Yes.
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>>154876881
They will if they don't want their only meaningful source of income to just dry up.
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>rolls like a sabre
>turns almost as good as a venom

the cougar is going to be cancer to try and actually hit, especially if you're flying a MiG
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>>154877746
never mind
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>>154834695
>40mm AP for the Vulcan
>allied bias
Fuck off you whiny fucking wheraboos.
>>154851930
Because reasons. Should have a great fire rate but it doesnt XD
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>>154878446
desu I'm 99% sure they just took the venom's flight model and bumped the rollrate up

its engine performance feels almost the same as well
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M163 is amphibious
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>>154872763
This has literally been the case for over a year now, around the time Gaijin noticed naziboos fork over the most cash.
>>
Which German premium tank is the best?
>>
bote cbt fucking when
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>>154879737
The Tiger II Sla is pretty good when you dont mind paying 40 bucks for a copy of the TIger II (H) instead of just talismaning the TIger II + Kugel + Panther II for the same money
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>>154880095
>40 bucks
Maybe if it was like 15-20 I'd goy out.
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good news

gaijin has finally started the development of historical sights for tanks
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>>154880304
explain this pic
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>>154880290
get prem time and/or GE to talisman the Tiger II or Panther II desu
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>>154880339
Various different gunsights for tanks.
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>>154880645
how do you know
>>
new boat files
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>>154880812
Because I recognise a few of those as being the designation for some tanks sights, as well as the fact that the file directory is "tank_sights" you knob.
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>>154880941
but it could just be binocular view models. how do you know they aren't?
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>>154881059
because the filenames are actual optics?
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>>154881059
>us computing sight
>us telescope

nigga please
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>>154881221
binoculars are also actual optics, so how do you know?
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>>154881059
TZF 5d is the gunsight for the Pz. III 50mm gun, just as an example.
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>>154881272
>>154881357
how do you know?
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>154881421
Fuck off (You) scavenger
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>>154881421
you right now
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>>154881498
how do you know these will actually be utilized in the game? how do you know gaijin aren't stringing us along yet again?
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>>154878208
I was optimistic like you, once.

>>154879386(triggered slav(e)boo chimp)
>their whole world comes crashing down
False-flag harder, shill.
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meme?
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>>154881992
>It's that one dude that just calls everyone a Slavaboo for dissenting against Nazis


Wow I wonder what nation you play as
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WHEN
CUTE
CUTE
CUTE
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>>154881993
those exhausts are lewd
>>
>>154882065(triggered slav(e)boo chimp)
>their whole world comes crashing down

For the record, chimp, I play burgers. But hey, deflect, project and shitpost. Gotta get dem GE's eh?
>>
>>154880905
>Artilleriefährprahm

Gee bill, how come your barge gets TWO eighty-eights?
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>>154882183
+150$ Autism Welfare
+10 Food Stamps!
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>>154882307
this is all i can find
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>>154882349

It's something like this.

Boat gameplay is gonna be horrible probably, but two Wirbles and two 88s on a boat with a little Sdk/Fz turret seems like fun.
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>>154882532
is this a paper boat?
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>>154881993
>another OP, zipperhead easy-mode ufo
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>>154882841
party barge
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>>154882841

No? WWII small-ship naval history is niche as fuck. I don't think there are any surviving pictures of it, though the same barge it was built off of is pictured in other configurations.
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>>154883147
This is why it's pretty exciting to actually get a game based on it.
Now we can delve into a little known subject.
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Who the fuck started the "Black Prince is good" meme? It almost always fights at 6.7 and 7.0, so the armor is completely useless. The gun can just barely get through KT turrets, and even then you have to individually snipe each crew member. And it has a fucking 10 MPH top speed in the best conditions, with a 1 MPH reverse and barely any ability to turn.
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Why would anyone ever use the Cougar over a Sabre? The only upside I can see is the Cougar doesn't blow through it's entire ammo load in seconds
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>>154883198

I mean the gameplay aspect is shit and what World of Tanks did to google searching for some tank projects is a special flavor of hell; but I love seeing history preserved in some fashion.

WW2 is right around the cusp of where we could catalog everything, but it's not a very easy task. Go prior, and there's too much undocumented, not-photographed, etc.
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>>154883238
drive it manually
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>>154883198
indeed, this is far more interesting than big boring slow ships with massive guns
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>>154883285
I have more fun flying the F9F-2 than the Sabre F-2, so the next natural step is to have more fun flying the Cougar.
>>
>>154883285
because the cougar is sexy as fuck
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>>154883345
I'm hoping the rb battles aren't absolutely atrocious like the arcade battles are.
>>
>>154883285
one day you'll learn to enjoy a challenge
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>>154856694
it costs 400.000$ to fire this weapon..... for twelve seconds....
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>>154883413

Big slow ships with massive guns is both fun and interesting, but doesn't fit War Thunder. Plus there are already a good number of games that do it already, with WoWS cornering the F2P market; all that WT would bring to the table is horribly implemented combined battles and the nice X-Ray/Armor systems.

And aside from WoWS, if you want to ham it up Arkaden Style, there's the Battlestations and Warship Gunner series. Warship Gunner 1/2 are amazing your first time or two through since you build your own ships.
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>>154883824
Holy shit fuck off you Gaijin shill.
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>>154883824
Of course of course, big boring ships do not fit war thunder. we want "Fast" exciting gameplay with little boats. It will be the best of all modes
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>>154856839
>>154857041

M163 VADS - 40mm @ 10m
ZSU-23-4 - 43mm @ 10m
Gepard - 65(ish?)mm @ 10m; 100(ish?) with a horrible APDS belt that has it at 1:10 rounds or so.

DShK GaZ, the real star of this patch - 26mm with AP-I, sub-15mm with anything else.


The best feature of the patch really is the X-Ray showing multiple shells during one animation.
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>>154882346
It really doesn't take much to trigger and make you slav shills cry, I see.
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>>154883924

>want what I want or ur a shill >:(((((

Not sure if this is worse, or that guy who's been throwing a tantrum on the forums for most of the day because Gaijin added the Bv 238 and not some German heavy bomber no one gives a shit about.
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>>154884113
For the record, chimp, I play burgers. But hey, deflect, project and shitpost. Gotta get dem GE's eh?
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>>154883824
+50,000,000,000 rubles(30 cents Canadian) to the shill
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>>154884186
No, you literally said that big ships "don't fit war thunder"

That's not your personal opinion, that's you trying to project your opinion as what is correct and justifying Gaijin's stupid decision to not implement big ships, in a similar vein as to how a shill would try and deflect blame from the developer being accused, thus the shill insult.
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>>154884194
Literally ok, triggered slav shill. Literally whatever helps you justify your shitflinging, slav shill.
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>>154867096
Here is what a 4,2s reload looks like :^)

https://u.pomf.is/bbmrzm.mp4
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>>154884415
For the record, chimp, I play burgers. But hey, deflect, project and shitpost. Gotta get dem GE's eh?
>>
>>154884314
>>154884239
>shill shil shil-c-cuckcuckcuck

What a persecution complex, I wish I could get paid to shill.

Explain how you can add capital ships in War Thunder's environment, while keeping aviation relevant (and potentially now, tanks) and the matches sub-30m on average.
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>>154883824
whats funny is that many of the big "slow" ships were actually faster than pt boats
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>>154884623
Why does ships /have/ to have planes in it, Anton? And what makes you think matches would be slow and boring, are you saying that your company is completely unable to sacrifice some realism for the sake of gameplay just like in tanks and planes, Anton?
>>
>>154884623
why would already popular modes become irrelevant because of the addition of a completely different set of vehicles?
>>
>>154884458
lawd
>>
So what are the chances of the Panthers being moved down to 8.0 with the Yak-30 and La-15?
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>>154884623
>t. has only been playing since tanks and can't fathom the addition of an entirely different set of vehicles

This has LITERALLY been done before.
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>>154884623
>and the matches sub-30m on average
they'd do it like how they already do, with unrealistic, very small maps and mystical "vehicles" that appear out of thin air and are made of paper but give the same score reward as removing a pillbox or tank
>>
>>154884636

You seem to assume player base wouldn't play them the exact same way anyways.

Point at enemy, full ahead, swing to "le broadside" when they're close enough to mouse-aim, and hold M1 until someone dies. Maybe a faint "uraaaaaaaa" in the distance.

>>154884821
Why does tanks have to have planes in it? And the sacrifice of realism involves adding even more RNG or making them dumb hugmatches that can be accomplished in PT boats anyways.

Also, I've had a minuscule amount of correspondence with Anton. I don't think he's ever going to slum it up here. I can still pray something bad happens and they have to sell out to a better Western company, but that's day-dreaming.
>>
>>154884968

>Played since Alpha
>Played CBT Tanks

They're not gonna implement it without the mix. They're set on that concept as it being ~unique~ now despite being an awful feature in tanks. I also can't wait for boats CBT to launch in a state like tanks did.
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>>154885137
>Why does tanks have to have planes in it
It doesn't, so why do ships? Falling into a hole of your own logic there bud

> And the sacrifice of realism involves adding even more RNG or making them dumb hugmatches that can be accomplished in PT boats anyways.
Or right, they could actually just do what they already do in planes and tanks and have overperforming accuracy and arena size maps for short matches


Your points as to why ships wouldn't work in WT are the same shit Gaijin have been spewing and that everyone's been disproving for months now.

> I've had a minuscule amount of correspondence with Anton.
Just had to confirm you actually are a shill then, right.
>>
>>154885137
>>You seem to assume player base wouldn't play them the exact same way anyways.
>
>Point at enemy, full ahead, swing to "le broadside" when they're close enough to mouse-aim, and hold M1 until someone dies. Maybe a faint "uraaaaaaaa" in the distance.

How is this relevant to the discussion? The way the playerbase creates meta hasn't in any way prevented gaijin from doing what they already have done. You are complaining about how the core of the already existing game works. If you expect a simulator, there are real options available in the marketplace.
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What's the best way to do Commander Golden Wagers?

I forgot the lineups
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>>154885385
>tfw you will never airdrop in a M22 onto the decks of the yamato
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>>154884943
None.

If Gaijin stopped being retarded and gave us .3 and .7 BRs back in jets, 8.0 and 8.3 would make sense for both. But it's not going to happen.
>>
>>154885385
>>154885137
>>154884623

Why would planes not work with ships, exactly?
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>>154885707
because is of very small family company, tovarisch (((
>>
I went to the forums for the first time in months and what the actual FUCK is this new layout? It's fucking disgusting and awful to read
>>
>>154884521(triggered slav(e)boo chimp)
>>154884623(triggered slav(e)boo chimp)
>their whole world comes crashing down
>>
>>154885940
For the record, chimp, I play burgers. But hey, deflect, project and shitpost. Gotta get dem GE's eh?
>>
>>154886017(triggered slav(e)boo chimp)
>their whole world comes crashing down
>>
>>154886132
For the record, chimp, I play burgers. But hey, deflect, project and shitpost. Gotta get dem GE's eh?
>>
>patch 1.63
>the M36 STILL is BR 6.3
>the M103 STILL has incorrect shells and armor values
>>
>>154885435
>everyone's been disproving for months now.
>my hugbox agrees with me therefore it's the right way to do things

Look, we could bants and do the same loops. I'll call it a day, raise a flag of victory if it makes you happy.

I also chatted with Anton because I've been with the game forever and they were taking a shitty direction for awhile. Was trying to figure out why, never really did.

Where they are now, it's somewhat of a painful neutral, steady-as-she-goes sort of affairs.

They are clearly learning in SOME fashion, as none of the new SPAAGs have had over 80mm pen without it being in a really bad belt at the end of a grind and they're trying to make Germany less of a one-trick pony in V GF RB. If they were faster on the up-and-up of fixing Battle Ratings (T-34-85s at 60-70% W/R, T25 lower BR than M36, other dumb shit, tanks not spread to 9.0 yet) and addressing shit that is going against gameplay (ZSU-57-2 tank destroyers, ZSU-37 and Kugelshits being last ditch fuck yous for cheap SP, Air RB remaining on stagnation mode and indefinite 8.0 Korea for years); if that shit got fixed, I'd get back to giving them some scrapings of money from tax returns. Until then, eh.

They're not some evil corporation with a legion of paid shills, you have to remember that they're Slavs and Slavic game business models aren't really customer-centric until their profit really starts hurting; when they're usually more keen for one last pump-n'-dump before moving on.


>>154885457
If you have buddies to ham it up; 4.3 USA AB with Calliopes, but that's assuming you have it.

Stacked T-34-85 are an automatic safe bet if you have them. 6.3 is worse now with the occasional Wehraboo going for the II P / Jagdpanther / Panther F line-ups.

If you like to live on the edge, Era V USSR basically automatically wins if you kill the Leopards fast enough and they're not coordinated. Especially if you bring a ZSU-57-2 to follow up an stupid death.
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Post Brigand and M56 when ocassionaly as a joke dream.

They actually implement.

Absolute fucking madmen.

The Gaz .50, G1N and J1N also caught me by surprise.
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>>154886507
You have still failed to prove your point in the slightest that big ships "don't work in WT", and haven't seriously responded to the criticisms of your points; are you sure you're not just parroting what your """friend""" Anton told you?
>>
>100 years since the first tank entered the battlefield
>WoT get's a full on custom hangar dedicated to it depicting the battle of the Somme
>we get a dev server for a shitty update full of more future tanks

yay
>>
>>154886565

M56 is the equivalent of ZiS-30 with the American 90, American gun depression, and post-war HEAT.

A single strafing plane or coax-spritz will nuke you; but you can effectively depress the gun low enough to peek 2 feet high over a hill, bap, and use the recoil of said bapping to fly back down the hill at an instant 19kph before anyone knows where you shot from.
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>>154886191
>the slav is so assblasted all it can do it repeat something a human posted earlier
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>>154886818
For the record, chimp, I play burgers. But hey, deflect, project and shitpost. Gotta get dem GE's eh?
>>
>>154886814
I know, it's going to be the American analogue of the ASU-57.

Going to piss off some many Tiger IIs.
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>>154886797
+10 gold to SerB's cumguzzler!
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>German players so shit at the game they need their vehicles to handhold them
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>>154887098
I don't have to shill for the average person to see how much extra effort Wargaming put into it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggt3AkAgdNc
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>>154886934
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>>154886672

They don't work in mixed games. Tanks can't damage them, planes can't damage them without suiciding strategic bombers. They have to exist off the coast due to size.

In your less realistic setting for faster matches, they'll offer exactly what PT Boats will offer at a slower pace with more room for stray ammo racks/abrupt fires. And you can bet your ass Gaijin will slide in some "research extinguishers ))' module regardless if it's a battleship or not. Their size also disallows cover that doesn't start getting "Hidden Island" levels of absurd. I mean if Kursk is your thing, I'm not one to judge.

WoWS is available to you if you want that. I'm not sure what you think War Thunder is going to really be able to offer with Destroyers/Cruisers/Battleships that isn't already done there.
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>>154887145
Stay mad
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>>154886507
>my hugbox agrees with me therefore it's the right way to do things
Meanwhile, you didn't actually present a counter argument lol.

Big ships were completely doable in WT, it's only Gaijin who said that they couldn't because it'd be too """slow""" ((((
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>>154887145
>Posted as I fire from my turret down position, completely safe from enemy fire
>Posted as I fire across the map, outside of realistic range of the missile and killing fags while using ULQ settings
>posted from my machine that has no deadzone or minimal activation of the range
>Literally posted from my 3-5 second reload machine
>posted from my machine that cannot be ammoracked

>>154887179
+10 gold!
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Who here switching to nazi tree after today's dev server?
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>>154887179

WoT players are mad because the PC version is a watered down slav-toaster friendly version where you can't even drive the Mark I or whatever.

Meanwhile the consoles got Mark Is with flamethrowers, better visuals and FX, etc.


I'm glad all WT did was put the occasional player in with the mark of the Jew who I can assume 9/10 times is a worse player.

>>154887206
J1N1 - Excellent
Ki-87 - Good
G1N - Bad
>>
Just got the Cenurion mk10. What am I in for, and should I talisman it for the Chieftain?
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>>154887361
>Posted from my Leopard that raped niggas for almost a year and nobody gave a shit
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>>154887424
Elaborate.

I mean, are those four 20mm guns at the back?

Can I bait people into an easy kill before obliterating them?
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>>154887416
> that feel you feel when you started with the germans and are up to the panther and tiger
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>>154887498

A Cent with a great gun, marginally more hull armor that you can't rely on (like an extra 40mm plate on UFP) and that's about it.

It's the lowest BR to get the L7 at the cost of no HEAT. Which is fine. I've heard HESH is pretty good now and obliterates light vehicles.

For whatever reason, it also has super marginally better HESH than any other gun to the tune of 5mm.
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>>154887592
Ebin false-flag.
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>>154887498

an L7 105mm at BR 7.0 because bongshits need maximum handholding

play not to get hit and you'll be top dog
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>The germans will still get an M47 and T-55 to complete their totally not OP tier V lineup
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While you fags are grinding out your jagdwehrpanzerjaegerschnitzelwaffenborsigpanzers, I'll be zipping to the Swingfire and shooting you across the map from behind hills that you can't even see.
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>>154887701

proofs???
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>>154887734
nah I'm grinding out my IT-1 so I can shoot you across the map from behind hills that you can't even see before you do
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>>154887596

J1N1 - Ki-45 Ko Heavy Fighter with quad 7.7mms on your butt defense in a decent arc.

Ki-87 - A Jap plane I know little about but was told will handle kind of like a P-51/P-47 with twin 20s and 30s. Good guns when they register properly, horrible when they don't.

G1N - Take a Do 217, give it 1/4th the payload and no pilot guns. Replace defenses with two very low velocity Type 99-1s at a high BR. No defense underneath or from the sides.
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>>154887281
>They don't work in mixed games.
Planes can go in for a bombing run if they want and risk getting blown out of the air by a BBs AA armament, while CLs and DDs can easily dodge any torps or bombs they drop. Of fucking course tanks would never work with it, most battleships shells are the sizes of small cars.

But I seem to recall and ENTIRE FUCKING VEHICLE GAMEMODE CALLED PLANES, in which you can play ONLY planes, and don't have to play with tanks at all. So fuck off with that "wuuaaahhh it could only ever be implemented as mixed!"

>In your less realistic setting for faster matches, they'll offer exactly what PT Boats will offer at a slower pace with more room for stray ammo racks/abrupt fires.
Yep, speeding up the gameplay and making smaller than realistic sized maps means that it's just going to be an arcadey autocannon-fest like the PT-boats are. Because realism is black and white, you can only go full realistic or none at all, right?

>WoWS is available to you if you want that.
Yup, there's the comment I was waiting for. Because why not try and equivilate any compromises of realism with "just go play WoWS lmao" It's not like anyone could've possibly apreciated the differences the two games have in gameplay or anything, right? Nope, if Gaijin didn't implement a completely realistic, slow and boring ships then it'd just be completely identical to WoWS! I mean, why even have a tank gamemode in WT? WoT already exists after all, right?
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>>154887596
they should be 7.7mm
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>>154887498
lots of downtiering thanks to the Tiger II blackhole

>>154887694
>maximum handholding

fuck off naziboo/slavshit
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>>154887837
Jokes on you, my rockets are pre-angeled at 45 degrees and I get 2 ready at a time.
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>>154888017
>tiger II blackhole
I've been playing since 2013 and I still don't understand what this is. Can someone explain it to me?
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>>154887843

>Planes - 6 years ago
>Tanks - 2 years ago
>They were built with the same mindset.

lol

>completely identical to WoWS
Not what I said, just not that it'd offer much of anything better than what you find there. Unless you want WoWS marginally less hand-holding and more abrupt deaths or something.

This is why I didn't want to continue, you built your walls and are clearly content to shit in them. If you're not open to someone reaching over and pulling out of your crib, nothing lost. It takes a far bigger tantrum for daddy Anton to actually bother changing Gaijin's predetermined course.
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>>154888279
More people play tiger 2 than the rest of the tanks.
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>>154888279
there are so many naziboo that you end up being downtiered to fight them most of the time since higher has less people
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>>154888279
Tiger II is the handholdiest tank in the game so it attracts shitters and naziboos like flies to shit
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>>154888017

>naziboo/slavshit

'no'
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>>154888279

Tiger II H is basically the best 6.7 in terms of all around armor, gun, ease of use, mobility, etc; but with the Tiger II 105 at 7.0 and no signs of tanks being pushed out to 9.0 any time soon, it's gonna sit there.

And there are a lot of shitters who play it. So you tend to gravitate towards 6.7 matches whether you're in a 5.7 or a 7.7. The only exception has been recently for 7.3-7.7s since they're needed as filler for 8.0-8.3 (thanks IT-1s) clusterfucks.
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>>154887734
Literally ok trihax, you fucking drone.
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>>154887842
>>154887867
Right oh. Cheers.
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>>154888489
Are you hacking?
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>>154888313
So once again you just revert to not actually offering any counter argument and ad-hom
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>>154888504
>>154888385
So you're telling me that I will be downtiered to 6.7 ~90% of the time?
Time to harvest more ARYAN blood...
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You'd think the swingfire periscope would turn fast since it's this little tiny thing, yet it feels like someone jammed the ring full of shit because it turns fucking slow as fuck.

Is this how it worked in real life?
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>>154888657

no

why
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>>154888657
>9:1 KD in an M46
Is it even a question on whether or not he is?
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>>154888950
Tell me your in game name. Your stats reek of hacks.
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>>154888950
Right, so you have a 9:1 KD in the M46 and 91% WR in the M26 completely legitimately then
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FV102 when?
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>>154889617
They should remove FV4202 and make it premium. Test tanks that never even were made for combat have no place in main tree.
>>
All w/r are statistics from the past _month_, not all time and for RB only

Britian:
Conqueror: 39.39%
Chieftain: 45.25%
Conway: 47.55%
Falcon: 38.35%

Claps:
M551: 45.28%
M60A1: 46.39%
M103: 42.9%
T95: 55.16%
M42 Duster: 42.67%


Nazi:
RakJPz 2: 43.29%
Leopard 1: 44.68%
Jpz 4-5: 43.95%
Maus: 48.3%
Coelian: 41.22%

Slav:
IT-1: 66.59%
T-62: 64.88%
SU-122-54: 52.34%
T-10M: 64.2 %
ZSU-57-2: 57.92%


Why is this?
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>>154889735
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>>154890025
>thunderskill

How many times are we going to go over this before people stop using this site?
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>>154889735
>Test tanks that never even were made for combat have no place in main tree
So that's what, 80% of the slav shit?
>>
>>154890182
+5 GE ))))
>>
>>154889040

rudelord

>>154889108

???
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>>154890025
Team comps. Soviet comp is arguably strong.
>>
>>154890025
These may be very different from the real, because we are monitoring only those players who use our site.

These may be very different from the real, because we are monitoring only those players who use our site.

These may be very different from the real, because we are monitoring only those players who use our site.
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>>154844240
Where did you get the images in 4K?
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>>154890301
http://thunderskill.com/en/stat/Rudelord/vehicles/s#army

You are hacking in Sim and that's pathetic.
>>
>>154890471
Right, so your excuse is all the people who don't use the site bring the other three nations wr up to par with slavs?

You slavshits will always defend this bias
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>only enemy on other team asks "can we just leave each other alone and farm AI"
>I agree
>first fucking thing he does is kill me
>>
>>154890682
you deserve it you soft fuck
>>
>>154890309
2. The reload is very slow, it's nothing like an IT-1 with it's sub-5s reload.

You really only need one missile to kill
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>>154890547

>play the game mode where US tanks shine the most due to larger maps and absolutely zero minimap which helps with their shit armor and mediocre penetration values
>do really well

it's not hard anon

just try
>>
>>154890671
The 262 C-2b has a 60% WR in RB and AB according to thunderskill. Therefore, the 262 is actually performing too well and should be raised in BR to compensate.

See? The statistics are easy to manipulate because 99% of the playerbase doesn't use thunderskill, and the ones who bother to do so are all above average.
>>
>>154890682
>trusting anyone
You deserved it
>>
>>154890824
If you have proof to the contrary for slav stats at Tier 5 I'll be glad to wait and see your evidence,.
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>>154888489
I don't even know how this could be hacked. The M26 can't pen anything it faces, so even with an aimlock, how could one achieve these numbers?
>>
>>154890817
You're not fooling anyone bro. you are hacking clear as day and you're doing in Sim which is pathetic.
>>
>>154890905
I have proof that your source is biased and non-representative of the norm, friendo, that's all I need.

I'm not arguing for or against slavs, but using thunderskill is a bad meme. Gaijin doesn't dispense any kind of stats about vehicles themselves.
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>>154887842
Is this in?
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>>154890953

you flank and set up in a spot where you know there's a lot of traffic coming through and thank the lord that most german players have zero situational awareness

>>154891014
i'm flattered
>>
>>154891175
looks like a fish
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>>154891116
Gee I wonder why Gaijin won't dispense stats because they too know it's unbalanced.

And the matter of the fact is Thudnerskill is mainly used by good players which further shows even with a good subset of the community slavs have a clear bias.
>>
>>154891213

Please do not do this again.
>>
>>154891194
and how would one "know" where a lot of traffic will come? can you see through the hills or something?
>>
>>154891194
Even Lohere who does hack doesn't have these stats.
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>>154860520
Can't wait to kill commie insurgents with this.
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>>154890309
Also I just went into Test drive to test 2 at a time and the first missile nose dived and blew up in the ground... Happens every time you try two at once.
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>>154891226
>Gee I wonder why Gaijin won't dispense stats because they too know it's unbalanced.
That is deriving a conclusion without evidence

>a good subset of the community slavs have a clear bias.
and that is assuming Thunderskill makes up a good part of the community in the first place, which you have no way of verifying
>>
>>154891448
Also the last 3 missiles only use the right missile pod for some reason
>>
>>154891325

because if you play maps often enough you can usually discern where a large portion of players tend to funnel into to get to the fight quicker

it also helps that i flank fucking hard (as in almost hugging the map edges on some maps) to get behind the enemy team

>>154891332

sounds like he isn't hacking then
>>
>>154861043
Is this both for the F and LF?
>>
>>154891528
There is clear evidence that Thunderskill has to be made up of "good" slav players unless you want to assert 60%+ w/r players are bad.

So at this point you either have the site made up of good slavs and everything else is shitter or you accept the fact that this site is made up of mainly good players and there is an inherit bias.

There's no reason for "bad" players to even use Thunderskill.
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>>154891321
look at it
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>>154861226
Nice seeing the 20mm get decent models.

>>154861397
Gotta go fast.

>>154861595
Will it be more manoeuvrable than the Ki-45s?
>>
How bad am I?
_K_Tinman000
>>
>>154891557
>doing better than a known hacker is not hacking

Yeah okay anon... You're not fooling anyone.
>>
Does anyone have any good webm's of the BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT M163?
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>>154891696
What it indicates is there is an apparent slav bias in the people that use thunderskill

Which is about as good as saying there's an apparent bias for something in a group of people that we have no way of comparing to the norm or identifying how large of a sample size they are.
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>>154891952
So you're going to claim only good slav players use Thunderskill and the other nations are just filled with shitters ?
>>
>>154891448
>>154890792
Cheers.
>>
>>154892040
No, I'm saying Thunderskill isn't applicable to the game because you don't have enough information about the sample they use, at all.

This is basic high school level stuff dude. Don't just steadfastedly believe information because it aligns with what you want to hear.
>>
>>154892220
Okay then anon, just discredit it because it proves you wrong when the entire playerbase knows there's slav bias
>>
>>154892220
just because something doesn't use the entirety of the people it is meant to gather readings of, doesn't mean you can't take a sample of that and draw conclusions. What do you think polls are?
>>
>>154891448
That's because you lose the ability to guide the first one and it's flight path was heading into the ground. Thanks to the swingfire shooting up in the air and then it rebounding back down you need to wait until the missile has leveled off before shooting a second one.
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>>154891798

would you mind showing me your in-game name

for curiosity sake
>>
NEW BREAD
>>154892513
>>154892513
>>154892513
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>>154886250
these days the M103 is pretty memey tho, the rounded armor bounces everything
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>>154892342
>What do you think polls are?
Done on a random sample is what they are. This is a selection of unknown quantity from a group of players that is rather clearly against the norm.

>>154892282
This happens literally everytime someone mentions Thunderskill. It even spells it out on the page, ON THEIR WEBSITE, that it's not indicative of the norm.
>>
>>154892596
>that it's not indicative of the norm

No, it says it _MAY_ not be exact
>>
>>154892596
>small samples of the population are fine for medical studies
>but not good enough for video game statistic sites

lmaOOOOOOOO
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>>154892698
Like I said, random samples. Learn to read a post before replying the exact same thing as before.

>>154892662
Seriously?
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>>154891761
How long you play? If no
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