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Infinite loops will never be fixed Edition

Previous Thread >>154603481

>What is Dead by Daylight?
Asymmetrical Online multiplayer. 4 survivors scramble to fix 5 generators, while 1 killer wants to sacrifice all of them

>Sounds like evolve
It's not. Survivors have to avoid the killer at all costs, whereas the killer has to hunt for them. Everyone has their own objective.

>General info
Pastebin with most questions asked: http://pastebin.com/DDddy4uE (embed) (embed)
Pastebin with all of the values (perks/items/whatnot): http://pastebin.com/vCh6gxR6 (embed) (embed)
Wiki:
http://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Dead_by_Daylight_Wiki
Saved game with everything unlocked or whatever: http://www.mediafire.com/download/3qmzt3ok3p47xqw/TakeTHATsociety.profje

>Official site
http://www.deadbydaylight.com/

>Discord Chat
https://discord.gg/Eb3WFHz

>Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dbdgeneral

>Latest Patch Notes (v1.1.1b)
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/359547436764977226/

>Report hackers
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/358415206087328621/

>Report bugs
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/7/
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First for fuck the devs
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This is now a filename thread
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I hope Iron Grasp gets nerfed soon
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>>154796767
They need to make an item for survivors to use so they can instantly escape the killer's grasp. Maybe have it be a perk that has a cooldown to counter IG?
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itt: we SteamPost

hey guys i was just playing and had a idea for an perks

>handy with tools
>fix generators 10/20/30% faster
>"years of working on machine parts made you a faster fixer"

>run!!!!!
>you can run 5/10/15% faster when a killer is chasing you
>"all the time being chased made you run quicker"
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>>154797184
Suggestion: New items small gasoline tank and matches
Here is my idea, imagine having an item gasoline with addon matches, so when you see a wodden hook you can burn it down. The plus is that you can set the hook afire and run away, the fire will do it's job in a 2 long minutes time but here is the catch, the survivor can still be hooked to a burning hook and die 20% faster OR survive the hook if the hook burns out and breaks due to the weight, while he's still alive.

It's a double-edged sword, that would definitely add some more diversity and strategy to the matches.
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>>154797269
>Giving survivors another way to ruin hooks for killers.
Steam forums are that a way my boy
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>>154797524
I recognize this one from the forum
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>tfw too intelligent to play killer
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>>154797184
Those ideas are great, here's mine

Survivors having the equivalent of a mori, since there's no survivor equivalent yet

Nothing too OP though, it'd require the killer to be blinded or stunned, then any survivors nearby get a prompt to knock down the killer for the next 5 minutes
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>>154797714
Same, it's just too easy.
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>>154796767
>>154796924
This is why I choose to stay low rank killer
Its not even fun anymore at high ranks but at least with lower rank players we can have fun without using cheap tricks
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Hot damn. Unnerving presence and Distressing are so garbage. Why the fuck would you ever run them?
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>>154798838
Spooking people with billy? I can't justify running that or monstrous shrine
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>>154798838
Distressing was good back when i was up against rank 20 scaredy cats who'd drop and blow up a gen at the weakest heartbeat
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>>154798838
Yeah, it seems like a fun combo and then you realize this game is shit.
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https://www.twitch.
tv/themaggot420/v/89384825?t=0s

got another twitch cancer

05:04:30
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>>154799875
>Check Players
>One of them has her stream in her description
>Turn on Mori

Almost didn't pip because I tunneled her so hard.
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>>154799382
They need to make skill checks more varied and difficult. Once you realize that they all play the sound and are exactly the same your only excuse for failing one is when one starts the second you stop working on a generator.
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Why are killers able to back out? When the survivors are ready the game should start. The killer starting the lobby is their ready button.
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>>154799875
>https://www.twitch.
>tv/themaggot420/v/89384825?t=0s
You're doing god's work, son.
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>>154799875

You had two streamers

https://www.twitch.
tv/oxotrayoxo/v/89412560

2:01:05
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>>154800747
We can fix the issue of killers dodging after we remove SWF cheating from the game
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>>154800327

I could have sworn back during beta, the game switched between different buttons for the skill checks
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>>154801282
Nope
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>>154800259
i need to make a habit of doing this more, it's a little too much effort for me though

>>154800861
amen brother

>>154801014
i felt kinda bad about that one because he was only rank 20 and had shit perks and didn't really seem like an ass. i just assumed he was cancer and i even stream sniped him so he wouldn't get the hatch
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>>154799875
>billy revving
>better stay in line with the doorway
>how did that hit me
Is this another one of those pot smoking degenerates destroying his braincells while streaming on twitch?
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>>154801798
>You're going to get hit riiight meow
>meow

holy shit
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Is stream anon going to be here tomorrow like normal? I have shit to do at 2 PM and the devs have started forgetting to put their shit on youtube.
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>>154804368
I'm always here, friend
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Thank you guys sooooo much for the insanley brilliant game. I feel its very well balanced. If idiots are chasing a survivor in an "infinite" thats there own damn fault. I bet they chase the guy opening and closing the locker repeatedly on the oppisite side of the map too....lol, just pictured it
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>>154805168
The game should force survivor mains to do at least 20 games of killer before posting anything on the forums.
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>>154805517
>Check the post
>Look at guy's profile
>Killer main
Stockholm syndrome? Buyer's remorse? What drives a man to hit rank 1 as killer and maintain that infinites are okay?
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>>154805786
I guess he adapted and moved on instead of pointlessly bitching like a child.
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Somebody wanted to see me playing Billy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPZ2dorG7_U
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>kill everyone and not have fun
>escaped and not have fun

I'm done. The game no longer offers anything that I came for.
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>>154805916
Forgot your name again, Millennial Gamer.
>Valid complaints are bitching
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>>154806245
>playing for fun
God bless you anon, good luck finding some elsewhere.
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>>154805983
What add-ons did you have?
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>>154807050
Begrimed and rusted chains
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>>154805983
Wow, I was not expecting Sloppy to actually be good at this game.

Though, if I were you, I would have hooked the one who was just about to bleed out, then hooked the one who you had just downed.
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>>154796924
>>154796767
more of these pls
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Is it really that much trouble to add a ping indicator?
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>only IG1
>have last Meg in my grip as I amble towards the basement
>she's going to bust out before I walk in the door so I take her to the adjacent gen and start smacking it
>she wiggles out, hesitates for less than a second, and then works on it
>grab her immediately and finish the haul down to my dungeon

fucking savaged
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>>154805983

>Not hooking Harass first
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>>154800747

Because we need time to decide whether or not to equip that mori we've been saving
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>>154800747

>Three Toolbox Jakes appear in lobby

Guess I'm running IG3
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Dear Survivor pals

Please, when you unhook me, don't start healing me right in front of the hook. This is not helpful.

Thanks!

-A Decent Survivor
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>>154815213

Naw.

I need my easy altruism points, and a form of distraction.

You're going on the hook again buddy.
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>>154815213
just press shift, you're free, you should know this
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>surv using a full moon bouquet
eheh, thanks I guess >:D
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>>154805983
>needs wallhack perks
that game wouldn't have gone even half as good if you hadn't the deerstalker and heal aura thing
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>>154805983

So much effort to chase them all down tag healing doesnt feel as rewarding as it should be. They weren't good either, would've been a nightmare against legit survivors.
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>>154821976
Fuck off ipwncocks
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what are trapper's best traits? I'm running him with iron grasp, agitation, brutal strenght and deer hunter, which is especially useful with honing stone. What other addon goes well with him? the fastening tools make setting up traps so fucking long, and usually equip them if I see jakes and toolboxes, otherwise I go the other green addon
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teachable perks were a mistake
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>>154823316
Just imagine how this game would be without teachables
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>>154823396
every surv and killer would feel more unique???
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>>154823396
>everyone playing Claudette because self-care
so.. nothing would change?

Or did you mean what this game would be like without unique perks? because that's a thing what would actually change the game
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>>154823434
Everyone would just play the character flavor of the month when it works best based on nerfs/buffs
>>154823587
>what this game would be like without unique perks
Yes i think this would be make it more fresh and they could slowly add new surv perks and killer perks
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just ran into a bot
how do you make it work now?
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>>154821976
No one likes YOU Corbin. You're a big fat mistake.
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>>154824112
This But instead of Jeb bush its Korbin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-McIdVuY88
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>>154817904
>you wouldn't have done as well if you didn't use good perks

really makes u think...
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>>154825338
You know what that guy meant, don't play dumb.
player aura perks are op BS for both sides, killer and surv
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>>154817904
I'll do a no perk video if you want.

>>154820235
True they were being very altruistic and it fucked them. I'll try and post a video with some SWF jungle gym turds just for you.
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>>154824112
>>154825151
Stop bullying
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>>154825854
>I'll do a no perk video if you want.
Do it if you want but you don't need to prove anything.

I know you're okay at this game but the whole round you played was nothing but chasing healer auras after the first hit
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>>154825338
>killer uses good perks
>ok
>survivor uses good perks
>meme perks! cancer!
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>>154826531
Kill yourself, scum.
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>paying attention to him instead of ignoring
stop feeding
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>>154826803
No, id miss the new steven universe episode tonight.
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make hook sabo take as long as a gen with sab lvl 3 (30sec with toolbox)

delete iron grasp from game

wouldnt that work?
so you can choose between ur objective or to mess with the killer


TL;DR make sabo feel more like doing a gen
-longer (as long as a gen)
-more rewarding (1250bp)
-less risky as it is right now (all those sound stuff)(tho will show on failed skillcheck)
-multiple ppl can sabo a hook
-r3 sabo = 30sec sabo with a toolbox and 60 without
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>>154827521
When the TL;DR is longer than the rest of the post ...
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Devstream #18 upcoming. I need a new bingo sheet. The old one is too easy.
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>>154806271
Endlessly complaining about the same thing day in and day out despite the small chance that it will actually change does fall into the bitching category.
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>>154828007
Make one on a bingo generator
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>>154815213
I have we'll make it and botany and there's not even a heartbeat yet. You'll have a better chance if you can take another hit man.
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>mfw I realized the "increased chance of finding better items" prestige reward only applies to the mystery boxes and not the bloodweb in general
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>>154828729
Don't you get loads of green stuff in bloodweb? There was a screenshot of p3 Billy's bloodweb with like 10 rusted chains.
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>>154828912
It's the exact same as prestige 0. Hillbilly gets the most purple/green addons for some reason. My billy had 80 begrimeds by level 50, while my trapper only had 22 honing stones. He also has two green chains that have nearly identical addons.
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>>154828007
>Moobot : 4h 5m 8s Until Q&A Stream #18!
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Rate my shit bingo cards
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>>154831315
Survivor/killer ratio is perfect. It's a matchmaking issue and they're working on it. You don't understand how complicated matchmaking is, one change could break it. DELETE THIS.
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>>154831130
My favorite is when one fuckstick deflects a question to the moron sitting next to him and he gives a one word answer.
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>>154831446
Finally got a game and of course it was against a chink. I guess I'll just play killer and pray I don't get BM'd if I fail to kill them all.
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>>154828729
That's bullshit, I got 3 Brown items out of purple boxes on my prestige 3 trapper
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only 3 hours left, get """""hype"""""
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>>154832628
Prestige is a ruse. Unless you really love the grind or those bloody clothes it isn't worth it.
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>>154833163
>give fresh ideas on builds

Are you the guy that posts those shitty killer builds? Like so bad I'm not sure you've even read the description? So lacking in synergy that I'm not sure you understand the game's basic mechanics. Just retarded to the point that I doubt you've ever been good at anything in your life.
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>>154833163
>post deleted
Are you even serious right now.
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>>154833619
> implying that wasnt the faggot mod saying that it was "off topic" just like how they delete my fanfiction for "off topic"
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what the fuck is up with vaulting? often times when I sprint at a window (never releasing shift), my character just climbs slowly and silently over
I'm so fucking sick of it
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>>154833893
Maybe you should take the hint Korbin.
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I guess if you don't camp or run NOED, SWF fags just resort to the cancer meme.
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harvester reworked when!?!?!?!?
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>>154833960
It's an unintended RNG element added during their attempt to patch vaulting issues. Occasionally you'll get fucked. I like it.
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>>154833893
Go to >>/mlp/ please korbin and never come back
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>>154834023
It's only okay if the killer has no fun at all, otherwise you're cancer.
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>>154834023
He wanted you to get cancer, as in get the cancer build in order to improve your results and keep the survivors from even safety pipping. He was an encouraging brother in arms, do not mistake his advice for hostility.
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>>154834107
seriously? what the fuck
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>>154834107
Wait it's rng? All this time I just assumed it only kicked in if you've vaulted several times recently, but now that you mention it I've had it happen even on my first vault and just shrugged it off as "quality"
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>>154834220
>>154834356
No you idiots, it's a glitch.
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>>154834062
yeah! killers are constantly exploiting it with the lunge flying!
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>>154834515
yeah what the fuck's up with that, I can't even infinijuke him safely FIX THIS fucks sake
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>>154834515
>survivor main
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>>154834565
That's not how that meme works anon.

>>154834487
Oh, I thought you were being serious.
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>>154834118
>can't properly send people away
You should join him on >>>/mlp/
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>>154834656
>forgetting one >
fuck off
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There is the F13 game whats that other game that looks like a shit stain that's coming out soon?
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>>154834872
Last year or something like that. We don't have any gameplay videos but concept wise it sounds marginally better than F13 and more similar to dbd on concept. But we'll just have to wait and see.
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>>154834872
Last Year
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>>154835057
It's being made by Canadians, so going by experience we're fucked either way.
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>>154835086
This is what Sessler will look like after F13 tanks.
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>>154833893
but your fanfiction is off-topic

this is dead by daylight general not autism general
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>>154835170
A-atleast they are not frog right?..
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>>154835170
Maybe they're not French-Canadians?
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Stop going for basement saves on Shelter Woods please. Or at least wait more than 5 seconds to try to unhook them.
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>>154835464
No.
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>>154835464
Unhook
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i have said it for years. the worst thing about being human is the ability to have hope.

this game is a perfect example of that. it is just constant ineptitude. having hope that the devs will actually make this game good just leads to constant disappointment
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>>154837282
The devs are the entity, they're feeding off your desire for a nicely designed game since there's 0 competition in the market of horror asymmetrical multiplayer gameplay right now.
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> got to stream to see how long till
> kiddies in there talk
oh god complete cancer that's ruining this game is in there send help
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>>154837734
hello harden, nice meme arrows
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>>154837734
>nice meme arrows
kek
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>>154838386
Nice reply.
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>>154838594
Go back to >>>/reddit/
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>>154838638
Nice shitpost.
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Time to bully some killercucks
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Tried to do a kill the fun lobby. Wound up joining someone else's lobby where people kept flooding in.
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>tfw jake going inside me
:3
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>>154839161
forgot pic
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>>154837282
The devs aren't even inept, they're just blatantly biased.
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>>154837429
>this game
>horror

Whatever horror aspect this game had died with infinijukes and Self-Care.
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>>154839161
>tfw you become one with your twin brother Dwight
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>>154834023
I already have cancer so these don't affect me
I'm going in for another round of chemo tomorrow so now I can't play and assblast SWF faggots
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>>154839871
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>>154839495
Biased towards killers maybe :^)
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/350541595123966685/
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>>154840739
Holy kek, this dimwit doesn't even consider that HE might be the problem.

Pallets are broken, but not in favor of the killer.
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>>154841153
No clearly the pallets were nerfed.
NERRRRRRFFFEEEEED KILLERS SO OP REEEEEEE
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Won't be able to cover this stream. Relying on you guys to do it.
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>>154841334
>Instead of squatting down in one spot in the middle of a heated chase and waiting for a bloodthirsty murderer to catch up to me, I have to actually try to escape now! >:(
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Killer that runs around with a stale baguette saying hon hon hon with a smelly cheese secondary attack when?
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30 minutes, someone do summaries since I still have to commute home
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https://www.twitch
.tv/deadbydaylight

6 min
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>tfw made fellow veegee unpip
;_;
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Whoa! How do I get a cool jersey like that?
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End of Lobby Simulator confirmed!
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Customization paid DLC this month
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HELP
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>>154846252
clips twitch tv/deadbydaylight/InnocentOwlSSSsss
plus more
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>>154846278
Fuck, wrong pic. STILL NEED HELP
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>>154846252
So it begins.
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free killer customization items coming
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>>154844963

get hype
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New items and variations
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>>154846742
>>154846803

If Homing Stone instawrecks survivors, what the hell does that ultra rare one do?
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>>154847224

think they mentioned it lowers healing speed, billy style
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and they nerfed the fuck out of the Nurse.

Slowed her walking speed further.
2 blinks without add ons.
Add ons "reviewed", probably fucked those up too.
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Gamechanges announced:
Nurse moves slower
nurse's calling rediced by 2m
basic number of blinks down to 2

Window cheese is being worked on: entity will block that window for THAT ONE person
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Rip Angry faggot
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infinites will definitely be fixed: "we don't want it in the game"

want to fix hook camping, no further info yet, will be on public beta
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What will the limit be before a window is blocked? How will they fuck it up?
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Crows nerfed, doesn't go off if you're crouch walking.

Deerstalker wont reveal healing anymore.
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Game just crashed my PC. If that's not a sign to uninstall I don't know what is.
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>>154846742
Wonder what will the new toolbox do. It already does miracles with saboteur.
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>>154847710
>>154847352
And people were worried they wouldn't fix the game, and yet they've proposed healthy changes that fix gameplay for both sides. I'm actually happy with how this sounds.
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>There are people who think the infinite fix is a survivor nerf.
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>>154847342

I see nothing wrong here?

>>154847379

Waiting for the uninstall announcement.

>>154847971

Think they'll be specialised for certain things, not one for all objects in the game.
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>>154848131
Careful, Anon. That's how they get you.
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>>154848131
Forgot the "Millennial Gamer" name.
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>>154848131

Because they've remained silent on the subject for weeks while fixing and buffing survivor shit.

We weren't worried. We were pissed.
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>>154848182
D-don't steal my hope please, I just want to have fun.
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>>154848223
The infinite fix alone invalidates the use of that meme. Plus the complaint from before that they were only adding new things for survivors has also been overturned. It's good for both killers and survivors, which is how it should be.
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>>154848428
>>154848236
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Take part in the chat and you might get a code. I'm not sure what mine is neither sure do I want to use it. Dweard or chuckles mask doesn't interest me at all.

I just said "stop crying about codes, you'll never get any LUL" ... and vuala.
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>>154848491
Plenty of people were worried anon, maybe not you but other people were.
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>>154848428

That doesn't invalidate their complete lack of communication however.

This could have all been addressed last stream. These issues were known for weeks.
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>>154848676
plz give code senpai
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>>154848831
They're fixing infinites. Now you're mad that they didn't tell you they were doing so earlier. Can't you find anything better to do than nitpick until the only complaint you have is almost worthless?
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>>154848676
I just want Chuckles desu.

No reason to get Dweard, though, because I don't play survivor, and if I did, I wouldn't play Dwight, and if I did, I wouldn't equip Dweard, and if I did I would get facecamp.
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>>154848676
Well fuck me, I can't run twitch on my phone and I'm at work right now. Hopefully it's not like the pax ones and completely exclusive to this one time stream giveaway.
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>>154847710
>Nerfing only good killer perks
>Survivor perks once again untouched
K I L L E R O P P L S N E R F
>Dwight isn't underpowered!!!! We swear!
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Goddamit they're gonna fix the 2 traps farming? Shit was satisfying.
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No one will equip calm spirit anymore. Freeing it up for some meme perk.
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BINGO
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>>154849243
They should have just boosted the 95 to 100 instead.
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>>154847710
>Deerstalker won't reveal healing any more
That's fine by me, I'm equipping Nurse's Calling anyway :^)
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>>154849384
This
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New Item: The Shank

Ultra Rare

"We're no match for that thing in a fight. But if we can hit a weak spot with this, we might just have a chance." -Dwight

A mangled twig that has been gruellingly sharpened down to a fine point at the end. Use it while being carried by the killer to attempt to hit a weak point. Failing to hit a vital point will make you wish you never had tried. Breaks upon use.

When used, a skill check pops up. It is more difficult than your average skill check. Upon failure, you miss the weak point and only end up enraging the killer, giving him a speed boost. Upon a 'good' skillcheck, you will stab the weak point and the killer will drop you, same as if you had just wiggled out. Upon a 'great' skillcheck, you will stab the killer deep in his weak spot. He will drop you, his screen will turn red in pain, and will suffer a 3 second stun. Enduring lessens these effects.

The shank is for when wiggling out is not an option. It should be used when near a pallet or window. It should be used at the perfect moment, because you only get one use out of it. It is ultra rare, same as skeleton key.

Addons

Smooth Handle - increases size of great skill check

Thick blade - gives you two uses, decreases size of skillcheck
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>>154849384
Range will be reduced.
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Just got home, I see killer nerfs and a bunch of items we might see in three months when they finish the update. What else did I miss? Why are they making spies retard easy to render useless?
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I like how they start off with "infinites fixed! :))" to bait the disenfranchised players into thinking that maybe, finally the game will be balanced... and then they follow up with the fucking horrendous killer nerfs.
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Yay, more stupid bright clothes.
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>>154849854
If that patch stops Angrypug from playing I will be happy.
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Even worse than dwight.
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>>154848927
>>154849069
>>154849096

Well I just wanted to check what the code was for, but it granted me the awards right away. If it was a chuckles mask I've intended to give it away here. Lucky enough it wasnt.
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>>154850210
Enjoy your cosmetics anon?
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>>154850210
These hats are like "killer camp me please"
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>>154850168
They said it's "hard mode".
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>>154849854
What did they change aside from the nurse?

I don't really mind nurse nerfs, since I don't play her anyway.
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>>154850503
With the nerf she will actually be SLOWER than survivors.

Windows will be fed up with abusers and close up for them.

Infinites WILL be removed.

Lots of items.

NC nerf (range)

Deerstalker nerf (don't see if they are healing)
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>>154850503
Well deerstalker was needed by removing the ability to see downed survivors being healed and spies, not to mention crows in general were needed since crouching will cause them to not fly away even more. Seems like something they should've added to calm spirit to make it more viable and balance out the 95 but whatever.
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I think they should have kept her 3 blinks if they were going to make her slower than the survivors
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>>154850503
Survivors can crouch to avoid setting off crows, Deerstalker no longer shows people getting healed, Nurse's Calling range is getting nerfed.

I'll admit, I had hope that the devs would come to their senses and make a balanced game.
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>>154850807
*Nerfed, not needed.

>>154850757
Forgot about nurse's calling. 2m ain't much of a difference though, it was always outdistanced by spine chill.
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tru3 is probably crying right now
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>>154851001
Removing infinites is a pretty big nurse nerf, I've got to admit.
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>The more than 4 survivors lobby bug still hasn't been fixed
>They're not turning it into an official game mode called Kill with Friends
>You and 3 other killers attempt to hook a bunch of survivors coming in from one gate and trying to escape to the next gate
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>>154851001
Because Deerstalker? Not that much of an issue.

I think Sxyhxy is crying because of the Nurse nerfs.

And I'm waiting for Uglydog's rage.
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>>154850879
>Survivors can crouch to avoid setting off crows
Why would they make crows worthless like this? For what purpose?
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>>154851240
tru3 loves the nurse
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>>154851240

when is angrymug streaming? could this be his final stream?
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So I just started playing this game because it seems fun, am I supposed to constantly be matched against survivors 5-10 ranks higher than me who have all their perks? It doesn't seem possible for me to ever actually fucking hit anybody, let alone kill them. Is this just another one of those shitty indie "if you didn't start playing on day 1, don't bother buying it" type of deals?
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>>154851183
Sharks and minnows would be pretty fun in dbd.
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>>154851265
It's a buff for Nea's Urban Evasion perk. I think they made that perk to see more crouched walking and it didn't work. So crouched movement now has a purpose even when you are away from the killer.

>>154851306
Well he rotates all killers, so np.
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>>154851265
>it's not FAIR! The killer was able to find me when I walked into the clearly visible and easily avoidable crows, and my calm spirit perk didn't stops the crows being disturbed even though it already prevented them being startled the previous 30 times I blundered into crows
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>>154851372
Lobbies are imbalanced right now because not that many killers are playing so you're more likely to run into survivors with higher ranks and more options than you. Once the killer population is at a more balanced ratio with survivors looking for games then you'll probably start getting better matches to prepare you for what's in store.
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>>154851372
Start with playing survivor and level a killer with your points.
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>>154851265
Because they're sucking off survivors. It's so blatantly obvious.

I don't even know why I go on this general anymore. I uninstalled this piece of shit a while ago and every post I read raises my blood pressure.
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>>154851372
As nurse or hillbilly you don't really need perks to destroy pussies. Overall, you need experience more than perks.
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>>154850757
>>154850807
>>154850879
>Crows
Crouchwalk is slow as hell, and being mindful of crows takes concentration, so it's probably balanced. It's not like spies was a gamebreaker anyway.
>Deerstalker
So now it doesn't overlap with Nurse's Calling anymore. That's fair.
>NC range nerf
Don't know how that will play out, but it's probably fine. Heal noises are pretty noticeable even without wallhacks.

From what I see, they just fucked with some peripheral shit. They didn't even really touch anything in the "killer meme trinity". I would hardly call these "horrendous killer nerfs".
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>>154851542
I would agree with you if crows couldn't spawn within set-off range of working on gens.

>>154851580
Go home and be a family man.
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They should have buffed Spies from the Shadows to not make crows fly off if the killer approaches them.
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>>154851680
I was only pointing out what was needed, aside from the calm spirit bit. Seems like something that would be more perk worthy and would also make calm spirit much more viable than it is thanks to the 95% on it.
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>>154851680
>Crouchwalk is slow as hell, and being mindful of crows takes concentration, so it's probably balanced. It's not like spies was a gamebreaker anyway.
So what? Crouching now works as calm spirit and you don't alert crows? Or you do, but not give killer with spies visual cue?
>Don't know how that will play out, but it's probably fine. Heal noises are pretty noticeable even without wallhacks.
It works way further than the range at which you can hear healing and groaning.
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>>154851820
*nerfed
Not sure why my phone takes issue with this word.
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>>154851680
>Crouchwalk is slow as hell, and being mindful of crows takes concentration, so it's probably balanced. It's not like spies was a gamebreaker anyway.
Not a gamebreaker, but extremely strong. And Nea's perks have always been deemed too weak, so there, Urban Evasion is now actually worth a damn. So survivors have to either use a perk slot for it or be slow as hell around crows.

>>NC range nerf
>Don't know how that will play out, but it's probably fine. Heal noises are pretty noticeable even without wallhacks.
From 32m to 30m is not really notiveable, but it might make a difference.
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>>154851820
Agreed. There are a lot of blatantly bad perks already, and now CS is gonna get way closer to being among them.

They should overhaul it so every perk has value. As it is now, a solid 3/4 of perks are only ever equipped because the player doesn't have one of the 1/4 top tier perks to equip instead, and I think that's pretty bad design.
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72hrs is actually a pretty cool guy
or am I just about to get redpilled?
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>>154852317
He's an infinijuking BMer who exploits SWF.
Is that red pill enough for you?
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>Infinite loops will never be fixed addition
It's a sign!
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>>154852463
oh? I've never seen him do it
but I've just watched him a little bit here and there
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How does streamsniping even work? Isn't there the 30 second delay to consider? In 30 seconds, they could be on the other side of the map.
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>>154852317

Focuses on actual fun of the game, has no problem dying and such. He's after balance of both sides and doesn't BM. Plays a bit of SWF, but not to a point where he's intending to screw killers over. He's ok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bERIB5NqwUs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VNPdjXUBOg
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Are there any good killer streamers?
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>>154852871
as in skill or behavior?
tru3 is a really good killer but kinda obnoxious
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>>154852797
>He's after balance of both sides
The voice-communicating infinijuker wants balance? No thanks.
>doesn't BM
Teabagging isn't the only form of BM, famalam. He flashlight bullies and emotes at killers all the time.
>Plays a bit of SWF, but not to a point where he's intending to screw killers over.
Are you kidding? That's his whole appeal. He is le epic SWF stuntman.
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>>154853262
>flashlighting is BM
just how sensitive are you
>infijuking
I'm not really doubting you, but I want some proof if you don't mind
>SWF stuntman
he plays solo a lot
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>>154852991
Obnoxious how? I'm having a hard time believing that a killer in this current meta is in the position to be BMing survivors.
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>>154853535
no just the guy himself is a tiresome type
he's loud, has a gigantic facecam and gets salty really quick
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>>154853262
>flashlight bullies
If tiure talking about blinding a killer with the flashlight while they're smashing a pallet it's a legitimate tactic.
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>>154853468
>>154853792
Flashlighting isn't BM. Having your entire VoIP team flashlight the killer endlessly is BM. Also, he still emotes at killers all the time. It's his form of teabagging.

Infinijuking? Sure. https://www.twitchDOTtv/72hrs/v/87547713

Doesn't change the fact that he still does play SWF to make killers suffer.
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>>154853262

https://clips.twitch
.tv/72hrs/AttractiveRavenVoHiYo

If 72hrs into your liking, I'd suggest flare2v. Personally my fav dbd streamer right now.
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>Infinites fixed

All I needed. Glad I didn't waste too much BP on the Nurse, either. Though I don't really think it'll solve the Asylum unless they're boarding up some shit in there.
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>>154853996
>getting mad at a finger point

Come on man
And survivors don't get a speed boost if they're hit during gestures, capitalize on that
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Start of steam shit (1/3):
Fixed killer peripheral bug in upcoming update
Fixed Nurse not getting stunned when attacking while carrying in upcoming update
Bunch of items and shit coming soon
Eventual open beta system where you can play a different version of the game that has the latest updates but won't save your progress, doesn't cross-over to the main game. Available to all through steam "eventually."
DLC cosmetic pack that costs money because fuck you we want more money. But only for survivors.
Free cosmetics for killers next update. Probably crap. Devs immediately move on from killers.
New shit includes item variations: Shit-tastic, decent, good, overpowered versions for all survivor items. Apparently the stronger versions inherently have add-ons included with them which you can further stack add-ons to. Killer add-ons have variations too, including the incredibly creative ideas like "hillbilly's chain but for the trapper" and "a bag that lets you carry THREE!!! traps."
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>>154854786
GAME CHANGES (2/3):

Nurse nerfs (Devs spend 1:30 joking about buffing the nurse): Nurse speed reduced "a little bit." Audio cues changed when using power, lets survivors have a better idea of what the nurse is doing. Bugfix, nurse doesn't go sanic fast when carrying survivor. Add-ons "reviewed." Can be stunned while "charging." Nurse's Calling range reduced, last rank is up to 28 meters. Blinks reduced, only 2 allowed baseline, max blink can be 5 with add-ons.

Cheeses: If you juke through a window too many times (depending on other factors) the game will warn you itself to stop it, if you don't stop then the entity blocks the window just for you. Angrypug kills himself offscreen. They're "looking into" camping still, they want to "fix" it.

Pointless waffle for 5 minutes about how they're definitely not biased towards one side or the other.

Changes: Beartrap immunity after exiting trap or being dropped by a killer to stop farming. Crows will not fly off while survivors are crouch walking (Indirect nerf to Spies). Deerstalker can't see people being healed.

"We knew that giving random codes out in the middle of a stream at 2 PM on a thursday wasn't a good idea for handing out cosmetics. Sorry ;)"

"We made special cosmetics for close friends and people we appreciate! [ Lists off streamers who advertised DBD] and then gave them codes so if they feel gracious they can gift their twitch faggots the special twitch costumes."
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>>154854786
Did they give us anything besides the Claudette labcoat?
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>>154854934
QUESTION TIME (3/3):

Q:[ Lore question ]
A: [ Who gives a shit, this answer then goes on for 10 minutes ]

Q: When are you gonna do anything about game performance you frogs?
A: We're working on it all the time. All the time. Our graphics engineer on REDDIT said some stuff. We're not gonna say what he said though, we'll maybe get around to pinning it on the actual game forums.

Q: Can you buff tinkerer?
A: Maybe. Tinkerer is probably going to get the most modification later on.

Q: Color blind mode when?
A: This is a tough one, fucking crippled people. There's bugs first, then features, then maybe we'll get around to adding new languages and support for disabilities. We'll definitely get to it. We're looking into it. In fact, we were already aware that the game sucks for color blind people but we didn't care.

[ 5 minute tangent about reverting the retarded macro removal change ]

Q: What about new DLC and cosmetics? Anytime soon?
A: Yes. We knew we were going to discuss this and did at the start of the stream but we cherrypicked this question anyway.

Q: What about a tribunal to deal with BMing? Like in ASSFAGGOTS?
A: That's cool, I like that. What do you mean that survivors would ban all killers for "camping"? Anyway we'd have to change the game. Next.

Q: Trading cards for nurse and nea?
A: "Lemme write that down for more money..."

Q: You discussed changing rules every season.
A: We have the option to do so. That's all we meant. Haha you got your hopes up for variety. Season rewards "Soon."

Q: I suck cocks for a living, and I need a good tie that absorbs cum since I can't swallow. What kind of ties do you guys like?
A: Extra large and extra absorbent with gold stripes.

The recorded stream stopped working for me at this point so whatever.

The patch is coming in this September. Watch them not hold to this.
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>>154854761
How is a finger point any different from teabagging? It's BM regardless.
And he emotes when he knows killers can't get him - from behind a pallet, a window, in a jungle gym, on the combine.
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I believe there is a sub forum on Steam if you want to suck Twitch cock.
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>>154854969
All the survivors get a bunch of new stuff. I don't remember much besides Jake getting a leather vest with a neon snake or something on it. Dwight had a green-ish looking shirt. Nea had stuff. Basically a lot of it is Pizza Dwight tier and is supposed to be a throwback to the 80's.
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>>154855205
Well shit, guess I'll review the stream when I get home. You wouldn't happen to have a time in the stream for when this was shown to save time would you?
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Behold, the ultimate Nurse counter after next patch
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>>154854786
>>154854934
>>154855062
Damn. Thanks for letting me know, Anon. And here I was thinking that maybe the game was finally balanced. I was even considering a reinstall! Imagine that.
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>>154855389
Yes I do think you imagined that.
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>>154855257
42 minutes or so.
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>>154856302
Thanks, anon. I appreciate it.
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Everything is fine, the devs have data. They have statistics to back up making the Nurse slower than all survivors even while they sprint. Do not worry goyim.
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> not running meme perks on killers
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>>154859589
Can we stop this stupid habit of replacing adjectives with meme?
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I wonder what their plans are for the hook camping "problem".
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>>154860824
I would guess something akin to the slowed down bleed out time if they're in close proximity, which is balanced out by them bleeding out faster if you're farther away.
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>>154860824
If they pander to SWF faggots, killer gets a 2 minute stun for not running 50 meters away after hooking and counting to 20 in a corner

I wouldn't care if they raised the sac time if the guy was facecamping a particular faggot,
Good survivors will just ignore the camper and the hooked nerd who pissed him off, it's already possible to fix 5 gens and get the hell out during that time
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>>154860452
its a meme you dip
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>>154860452
>Can we stop this stupid habit of replacing memes with meme?*
ftfy
also,
the word meme is a meme, what are you, some kind of meme?
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>>154861720
>>154861697
While we're at it, can we just delete the word meme from our vocabulary entirely?
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>tfw finally joined in the streamer destroying process
:D

https://www.twitch
.tv/barbeiromokado/v/89520361?t=01h52m27s
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>>154861861
>normies are starting to use the word meme now
they are taking it from us, just like everything else, once its mainstream we wont use it anymore
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The Nurse nerfs are heavy. Slowing her down further makes her rely more on blinks which she now has less of. I had so much fun with her and I feel like she's going to be Wraith shitty after this patch.
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>>154861861
>>154862008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raZkWL2mndY

its too late mate
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>>154861881
Congrats, hope you run into angryfag someday with a mori stocked up
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>>154862309
>old man describes what a dank meme is
nah senpai, i cant even watch it. i already know its cringey as fuck
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>>154861881
why do dwights hide in lockers?
why are they so retarded?
ive even had dumb niggers run into a locker when im close enough to see the ping and get mad when i find them.

ive had retards im chasing jump in a locker, is there some kind of MLG twitch cancer trick like if you burst from the locker it will stun killers or something?
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Killer cosmetics will include chastity devices, "feel the bern" hats and "my wife <3s BBC" shirts.
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>>154862920
>bernie = cuck meme
kill yourself, i bet you are some fucking trumpfag.
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>>154863048
I'll put a trigger warning on there next time you fucking pussy.
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>>154863048
It's true, though.
Bernie is a cuck for capitalism.
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>>154862881
there was a glitch where if you jumped out when the killer was in a specific spot it could take them out of the map I believe
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>>154863661
What about a perk that at tier 3 you can fly out of a locker and break the killers neck?

It'd be balanced because it's so situational and killers are fucking faggots.
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>>154863863
>>154862881
here's a video of the glitch
trigger warning it's 72hrs
https://clips.twitch
.tv/72hrs/BreakablePartridgeHassanChop
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>>154863048
It's okay anon, even we felt bad seeing Hernie get railroaded.

Also, what so you guys think about the upcoming updates? Think the devs are going to actually fix infinijuking or is it going to be like last times "fix"
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>>154864205
Tbf last times "fix" did break quite a few infinites. This should be a nail in the coffin, reducing infinites to a mere temporary extension of life. If the blocked vault window is permanent that would be cool.
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>>154864101
What happened, she fell off the map?

I once opened a locker at the same time a guy sprinted out and he was gone, i would've lost him if i hadn't checked the feet behind me, it was a pretty good trick
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What's everyone's guess on how many hot fixes will be required to fix all the shit this Sept patch breaks?

It seems pretty ambitious so I'm going to say 6.
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>>154864476
Yeah, she can't do shit because she's stuck in some weird out of the map limbo
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>>154864664
That's nice to know, i always wait until they exit the locker for brutality but now i'll be more cautious
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>>154864883
it's extremely rare though, apparently you have to be searching the locker at the exact same time they exit for it to happen. Still bullshit tho
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>>154865009
>>154864883
It can also happen if you pull someone off a generator the moment it finishes. I think, anyway. Just a theory because I tried to catch someone off a gen and fell through the goddamn world once
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I thought you guys said that the wraith is always stunned by the flashlight regardless of placement
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>>154866226
If he's cloaked yeah
Or maybe he had those add-ons that increase burn ressitance
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>>154866226
If he's cloaked/in the process of uncloaking yeah

You can't stun him when he's uncloaked, just blind.
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>>154866327
>>154866328
today's just not my day
I grabbed a meg off the hook in the process of unhooking her, then for some reason my character let go of her and she died. Her bar wasn't even a quarter empty
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>"Jean-Michel, we finally solved the infinite problem. Survivors can no longer exploit a game breaking map issue. The patch is ready to go live. '
>"NON! We must ensure all updates are fair to both sides, Pierre. Hmm... Let's make the nurse slower than survivors to force her to rely on blinking, and then remove one of her blinks."
>"Oui oui."
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>>154866769
This genuinely has actually made me depressed. They really did get my hopes up with the removal of infinijukes, they really did, but then they fucking HAD to dash those hopes. They couldn't have a fair and balanced game. This update is literally just another massive killer nerf.
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Watch the infinite blocker be bugged and it blocks it for everyone.
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>>154867326
>remove a blink to force her to to strike more accurately
>nerf both perks that help her pinpoint where survivors are
>give survivors 46 new items

Literally a worthless killer. At least the wraith can run fun builds
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>Infinite blocker goes live
>One faggot gets blocked off from one window in the asylum map
>Hustles the loop again
>Goes out other window
>20 gens pop in the meantime
Perfect fix devs
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>>154867836
stop these disgusting pairings
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>>154867913
Can guarantee this will happen. It'll only trigger if they use the exact same window or something.
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>>154868114
That's literally how they explained it. The entity will block the window you're abusing. So if the map has more than one infinite they'll still be good to go, and knowing how stupid the devs are the other window will unblock by the time the other loop gets blocked.
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>>154867913
better yet, I'm going to guess they made it around 3, maybe 4 uses of the same window before it gets blocked
>window hopper goes through it once
>killer goes around
>goes through the window again
>killer goes around
>goes through the window again
>window gets blocked, Killer loses line of sight immediately
>sprint burst away
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>rank reset in a nutshell
I mean I all got them all but still I'm already playing against people with 1-2 of the meme trinity already meanwhile I only fucking got monstrous shrine and distressing
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>>154869215
Stop playing this game now. It'll do you good in the long run.
Trust us.
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>>154869215
why must you embarrass me paint
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>>154869368
Just cheat if you're gonna play this shit game
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>>154869523
seriously considering it tbqh

just want to unlock my killer perks so I can begin to compete
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>>154869368
also
>first perk I get is monstrous shrine
>this could be useful maybe
>second level, second perk I get is distressing
>this sounds fucking retarded but sure
>third level, third perk I get Monstrous Shrine green edition
>okay
>fourth level I get DISTRESSING GREEN EDITION
give me the good fucking perks

>>154869523
If I cheat I feel like I'll end up as a level 40 in everything that can't get past rank 18 despite having the best perks possible with best addons possible
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>>154869721
Get spies before the update hits and everyone with a functioning brain duck walks around the crows.
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>get 3 sacs
>but because I didn't fellate them and chase them around for a bit on Autohaven Wreckers with greatly increased fog I still lose
gg
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>>154871007
You got a safety pip. Stop being a whiny little fuccboi.
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>>154869368
I'm pretty sure those are faggots who derank to 20 so they can farm killers who just started the game, they should've been rank 15 if they were rank 1 last season
Good thing you fucked them up
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>>154871007
You safety pipped you had fun
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>>154872346
*He didn't not have fun
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>>154871007
See it this way: You safety pipped, deranked two (if they had any) and the guy who used the probably expensive offering to increase the fog didn't pip either. Counting in the offering, chances are he went into minus with this game.
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Holy shit I'm literally invisible
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Steam has been going offline a lot lately.
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hey real quick, is pulling the power chord to my router a shitty thing to do when I'm rank 19 and I'm going against people with self care and sprint burst that keep making me go around and around and around and around for ten minutes? Does that make me a shitty person?
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>>154874251

nope, fuck em
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>>154874251
Nope, fuck them
Since the matchmaking sucks shit and levels are hidden, just dodge until you find people with the same hours as you
Go to your steam client and Username>Friends>Players, you can check everyone's profile as a killer but only during the lobby
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Nurse is still freaking Op, you simply cant escape someone using her blinks. Not even the normal barricades are in any way useful, jumping through windows, not useful, running useless. Even cornering is useless, especially on maps where you have some open field. Shes insane. I have no problem dying to my faults, i can deal with any killer and when i die, so be it, but nurse is simply just breaking it. Simply breaking it. I would wish they took her out. Her style is cool, really and i wish she would work well, but she doesnt. I had matches where it worked to escape her, and she still was incredibly dangerous, even when people played her without any perks equiped. Especially on a small map with alot of open field and perks equipped that basically show you any survivor action in over 36 metres she only needs to blink around.

I have played against some really bad killers, ok, but i also played against some really good ones. They didnt fuck around and had good tactics and didnt even need to camp a hook to win. But it wasnt needed to have a nurse player to be very good to win the game. Even total idiots could easily take out prestige survivors, without having perks. So cuck that part of the game.
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>>154874714
This shit never works for me.
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>>154874863
Try clicking one of the tabs to refresh it and make the players tab appear
Also, you have to be online
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>>154874795
steam forum post / 10
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>>154874795
Professional killer streamers have said about the nurse since she was released that she is unfairly strong EVEN by killer standards. If anyones opinion WOULD have the most weight to it, it would be a person that plays killer as a job and knows all the ins, outs and inbetweens of killer gameplay judging from both their strenghts and weaknesses because its literally their job to do so.
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>>154873474
steam going offline has cucked me out of 25k points and several pips now what the fuck
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>>154875449
Valve is too busy working on games, man, give them a break.
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>>154875449
Luckily it has only went offline between games. Still, it's annoying.
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>>154875714
check your BP and rank lad, I got, "Steam has gone offline," at the score screen and didn't get shit when I started the game again
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>>154875845
It has always happened when I was sitting at the main menu doing something else.
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>>154875590
Half Life 3 when.
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https://oddshot
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shoutout to all billys
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>>154876850
holy fuck
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>>154876850
Thanks brah gonna have some fun.
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>>154876850
K E K
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Okay what the fuck, I just got out of a game as hillbilly on farm where they activated all the generators except only one of the switches was marked for me, I had no idea where the other gate was until after they had all left.

They also waited by the fucking gate until I found them, faggots.
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>Nurse going to be unplayable with the new patch

Well i guess i'm done with Dead by Daylight, none of the other killers are as fun
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>>154879564
>none of the other killers are as fun
Riiiiight.
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>>154879564
you should go play unturned maybe that will fit your mental level
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>>154876850
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>>154876850
How the hell? I tried to do this just now but it just slams me into he ground, any tips on were to aim?
I fuck up the hay trick too
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Devs are currently in Sxy's channel, gave him codes for Pax skins to give away and offered to make him a custom skin, most likely for Claudette.
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>>154884659
At least he's a killer main. Right?
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>>154884659
I hate them so fucking much
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>>154884659
You'd think they'd just hold a raffle on the forums or give the codes away on there. But no. Gotta pander to Twitch babbies and the freaks who actively watch them at 10 PM on a Thursday.
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>>154884538
Keep practicing
It works on other places, you need somewhere with a gap and a wall, if you hit a wall while on mid air that happens

Here's a spot on the asylum
https://www.twitch
.tv/flare2v/v/89028946?t=1h57m10s
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I hear a really good way to maintain a steady fanbase is to spend time creating dozens of items and not give them to anybody.
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>>154884538
>I fuck up the hay trick too

It's pretty easy, are doing a lunge attack?
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>Walk forward 5 steps when round starts
>Hillbilly chainsaws right to me
>Catches me because fucking shelter woods
>Iron grasp 3's me to the basement
>Retard teammates do nothing but crouch and stare at the shack until I die
>He had IG3 and Deerstalker 3
Fucks sakes pick one or the other, both is just overkill.
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>Murf going full damage control in threads saying that the next patch is going to ruin Nurse
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>>154852797
>>154853468
>>154854761
I want 72hrs shills to leave.

He's just as bad as any other survivor streamer who infinijukes, BMs, bodyblocks, and exploits SWF.
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>>154876850
>>154885783
Dammit, Flare, you're making me consider reinstalling this shit game.

...Fuck it, might as well play Nurse for a LITTLE bit before she gets nerfed to hell by biased devs.
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>It's another hillbilly using deerstalker 3 and IG 3 with a begrimed chain round
I'm just trying to finish my dwight ritual, why do you guys have to suck the fun out of the game
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>infinijukes will now be closed off if used too much
I mean, pretty much everything else that is being changed is anti-killer, but at least we got that.
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>>154852797

>Adrenaline Stuntman
>Coordinating adrenaline activation with SWF
>Worthy of making a video

What a faggot. Even Angry Pug's one adrenaline activation and escape was more impressive than all of that shit combined
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>>154889550
Because it's more fun for them that way, and they have absolutely no obligation to give a fuck whether or not you have fun.
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>Killer nerfs come in the form of weakening their abilities
>Survivor nerfs come in the form of fixing unintended exploits
>These always have to be packaged together

Really gets me thinking.
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>>154889696
>I mean, pretty much everything else that is being changed is anti-killer, but at least we got that.
Literally everything that is being changed is anti-killer. The entire patch is a massive killer nerf. Don't let the "oh we fixed le infinites so we're clearly not le biased" French trickery dissuade you.
If anything, this should just show everyone how biased the devs are.
>>154890210 is absolutely right.
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>>154887232
>IG3 or Deerstalker

Maybe once every Survivor isn't running the trinity I'll consider not using those perks.
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>>154889696
See
>>154867913
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>>154890365
Not or, both at the same time. I don't blame him for running it but it pretty much guarantees I'll never be rescued.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCcFu2QGOdw
>Average Dev Twitch stream
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>>154890519
It doesn't. You get Deerstalkered, you stay still and start recovering. Team waits until you're probably ready for an instant heal and focuses on gens until then.

The true value of Deerstalker is that it lets you hook someone, down the guy who tries to rescue them before they can get them off the hook, and then just leave them on the ground until the hooked guy dies. Makes camping actually worth it.
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>>154890519
Yeah, I understood what you were saying.

Doesn't change what I was saying.
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>>154890658
>Hillbilly never actually leaves area
>Begrimed chain means it takes 20 years for my health to recharge while I sit there and twiddle my thumbs
>After a while he just hooks me, then downs me again when my faggot teammates unhook me while he's still nearby
>Repeat until I bleed out or get sacrificed
That's the process I've observed so far. At least the survivor faggots get the clue and just work on generators while the hillbilly occasionally walks off to whack one, only to chainsaw back to me immediately.
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>>154890854
Yeah, really good add-ons can make a killer OP. Survivors that all bring in toolboxes or medkits with instant heal add-ons are also OP.

The entire inventory system was a mistake. Can't wait for Friday the 13th. It won't have any of that shit. It doesn't even have a ranking system.
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>>154886635
Yeah, the one time I tried it it lifted me up but not enough to get over to the other side like the webm shows
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>>154799875
That guy seemed pretty fuckin chill honestly, wasn't pissed and admitted defeat

Maybe youre the cancer
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>decide to get stupid survivor challenges
>join game
>guy spamming 1, lag seems fine
>lag in game is fine
>soon as killer gets near me were both teleporting everywhere
>am bleeding with no hit animation/sound
>pallet doesnt drop
>wiggle bar is full on stairs, still get hooked and die

ok
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>moderator using the "adapt" meme

Hoo boy I've seen this word before.
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>>154892550
Japan bringing in the bantz
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Are there screenshots of the new items and clothes?
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>>154892832
Clothes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrQa5kTjRxc
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>>154892938
>a bright white lab coat
Genius
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>>154892387
If you ask what survivor nerfs they're talking about, they'll constantly reiterate the balancing of their OP as shit perks and the vaulting adjustments. By strict denotation, they're correct, but by connotation they're way off.
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>>154892938
Will there be killer stuff too?
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>>154893553
Yeah. That DLC in the video is paid, but killer cosmetics will be free sometime this month.
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>Kill asshole Nea who infinite looped on the combine
>End of game
>Says I'm a great killer and wrekt their team
>Not sure if they were being a sarcastic prick since one of their team D/C'd and I had to patrol close-ish to hooks to stop them unhooking each other
>They insist they're being honest
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What is even the point of rank resets?
Did the devs decide that killers don't suffer enough?
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>>154891998
nice satire f*ggot

i've played against this guy before. if he doesn't like something that happens, he just quits playing. he will rage and just stop playing but will tab in and out to see if he's dying or not
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>>154892550
Fucking weebshitter probably plays a fully perked out Claudette
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>Darkest moonlight
>Trapper
>Coldwind farm
>Two combines spawned
>Still manage to sac 3 people but only safety pip because the last guy pussied out and used his skeleton key
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I really can't imagine Nurse being slower. In this version after a few rounds of Nurse the trapper feels like sanic.

They were vague about her add ons. The retard in me wants to believe they were buffed somehow.
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>have to escape with new items
>in lobby with a Jake and Meg
>Jake says he's going to use the brightest moonlight offering and asks someone to lessen the mist
>Meg volunteers
>tell myself they must be joking but nope, they both are true to their word
>fucking SHELTER WOODS
>surprise, Jake is caught first and sacrificed first after he struggles
>other random low rank dies next
>Meg dies too
>I'm alone and pop one 99'd gen but get caught right after and hooked

I don't even know man
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>Obvious SWF team
>Gens popping off left and right because they're always clumped together but immediately scatter into the depths of fog thickened autohaven pallets
>Manage to sac 2 and safety pip
>Still don't have iron grasp 3 so I couldn't do shit to the faggots just waiting at the exit gate by swapping agitation for NOED
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>>154895948
SWF has ruined this game. Even with infinites getting fixed (which is what they said las time) it doesn't matter. One nonretarded survivor can extend a chase for long enough that there friends can complete 2-3 generators.
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>>154896634
Jungle gyms and pallet town are the problem.
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>i'll paint the bright red targets on our backs if someone else will supply the airhorns
You deserved it for not saying anything.
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Well, fuck. I reinstalled the game after this general compelled me to... And then I remembered why I uninstalled.

Fuck this shit
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>Trapper on ironworks versus obvious new team
>Sabotage jake gets me glitched into a hook, at least he disconnects and frees me
>Keep catching this one dwight who obviously doesn't know how the game works
>As in he refuses to use pallets when they'd be useful and keeps running past vault spots that i haven't trapped
>Hook him once in the basement when I first catch him
>Don't bother trapping
>He actually struggles himself free
>Out of pity let him go and chase other survivors
>Eventually after knocking him down like 5 times and finally saccing the rest of the team, it's down to 2 gens or the hatch
>Trap hatch
>Find Dwight easily
>Hiding incredibly poorly
>Pretend to not see him multiple times
>Eventually just stare at him until he starts to run
>Runs right into trap
>Carry him to hatch just as he struggles free
>He runs away from it
>Carry him back
>He won't go in it
>Give up and sac him
>Rank 20 with an objective bonus offering
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>>154897108
Stop visiting this general and just stay gone you whiny pissant.
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>>154897363
>being nice to survivors
It's kill or be teabagged and ben franklin threw that shit in the harbor.
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>>154898452
I didn't want to ruin the game for an obvious rank 20 Dwight.
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>>154898054
Sorry for discussing the game in a general for the game, a feat that you were incapable of performing in your post.
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18:50
First one he found
Only one to escape
/misterkoalaman/v/89603508
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>>154866769
>not playing funbilly only
GIt gud shit killer.
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Unhook
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>>154902142
Don't bother.
Dead game, dead general.
>>
deadest
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Does Rank 3 Hope make any noticeable difference?
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>>154883391
Assist MAX
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>>154909314
Against the Nurse yes, anyone else it give maybe a second more to a straight line chase, and only after gens obviously.
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>Blow 500k bloodpoints into Nurse-chan because she's the last to level to 50, also fuck prestiging
>LV14, didn't even get any chances to manipulate Entity-senpai
>Perk choices are Monstrous Shrine 2, Enduring 1 and some other crappy perks

FUCK
Guess I'll just level her through playing the other killers more.
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>>154846803
>GARROTE
To what end
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>>154909314
It nearly doubles the catch up time on a straight line if you're up against a trapper or uncloaked wraith, it's pretty good if all your other perks are shit
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how do you make macros work now?
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>>154911331
>4%
>It nearly doubles the catch up time on a straight line
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>>154911979
>4 is nearly half of 10
is that complicated to you?
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>>154911979
Yes
What's the half of 10%?
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>>154911979
I guess math isn't your strong suit.
>I was only pretending to be retarded I swear
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>>154897108
I've uninstalled like six times now. I think I have a sickness.
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>>154912013
>>154912039
Is a killer EXACTLY 10% faster than a survivor?
also are all killers equally fast? (except nurse ofc)
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>>154889550
I personally do it because you guys get less points and I'm tired of people getting unhooked the second I turn my back.
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>>154911154
I think it's a saw. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/619YW4gqZSL._SL1280_.jpg
Cheers for more saboteur shit!
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>>154897363
>Trapper on Suffocation Pit
>trap a pallet and go to grab another trap
>30 sec into the game see tracks in the house
>5 sec after that, a Claudette manages to run into the pallet trap
>hooked, white Dwight shows up too
>has 0 idea what he is doing, dropping pallets left and right, drop him
>Claudette gets saved by a Jake
>hunt her down and sacrifice
>got the white Dwight on a hook
>red Dwight saves his kinsman
>kill off Claudette and Jake
>chase after white dwight for some time, get full brutality and hunting, deviousness filled by 3-4 mins
>feel sorry for the Dwights, they try but the "skill" difference is too great
>drop them both next to eachother
>let red Dwight wiggle off and get white Dwight up
>let them just get points
>Red Dwight escapes, sacrifice White Dwight because sac offering
>he is just happy I didn't kill him earlier
Remember to treat your Dwights well.
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>>154916532
Only White Dwights and Manager Dwights.
Red Dwights and Bloody Dwights are usually douchébags. (I'm a bloody dwight and I play nice and fair, but I still see dickhead dwights in every killer game I play)
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>>154916532
>Look, I have 15 rank after reset and get matched against noobs even more often now. I rek them easily!
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>>154916651
This red Dwight was just trying to help people and do Gens, nothing dickish about him
>>154916667
>post is about taming Dwights and letting them get points because game unfairly puts them against former rank 1s
>this is somehow considered "look how skilled I am xDD" posting
Cmon mane.
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>>154917003
>useless blogposting
>this is somehow considered as posting that should exist
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>>154917003
It's just that Red Dwights generally pick the "red" highly visible option just for taunting the bull
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>>154917148
>shitposting
>this is somehow considered as posting that should exist

You're one to talk, faggot
>>
Sometimes I hate that i like playing survivor. I don't do any of the meme shit, but I still pay for it all the time. Survivors are a detriment to killers AND the other survivors. People for whatever reason don't disarm traps under hooks even when the killer is long gone, or they try to be some highlight reel shitter and try to unhook as the killer hooks someone or puts down a trap. Then there's two people down and the other survivors get fuck all for it save 30 free seconds or so to work on gens, and that's if you don't want to save people.

Then I get camped all the time because some asshat pissed the killer off doing some infinite or pallet to pallet bullshit. Like I dunno what happened to piss this one guy off but he found me at one point and I ran into the asylum, dropped one pallet then tried to hide upstairs after leaving some faux tracks, it didn't work though he found me and then proceeded to facecamp me like I ran in there and infinijuked for days or something. I hate all you other survivors so I almost don't want to run the two altruism perks but i'm not using sab to get points so what else is there.
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>>154917148
>posting about actually playing the game in a general about the game
>why arent you shitposting and arguing instead
Im sorry friend :^)
>>154917207
I haven't much noticed Dwights acting like dicks, even the bloody shirted prestiged ones. Now Jakes doe, they need to be gassed wherever they go.
>3 jakes and a white shirt Dwight
>get all the hooks on Autohaven with the lodge
>destroy a ton of pallets because they aren't doing any gens
>have to spend the next 10 minutes hauling 2 Jakes to a basement because only have Iron grasp 1 and agitation 1 with lvl 30 trapper which aren't worth taking
>>
Die!
>>
Nurses are gonna get memed on harder than Wraiths when that nerf comes.
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>>154920461
There is only one killer - Billy.
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>>154920578
It'll be 2 when the trapper mask gets fixed.
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>>154920578

>tfw they will never give back the old chainsawed survivors sound
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>swf tagteam of 4 claudettes t-bagging, bodyblocking, destroying my hooks and traps, and abusing the fuck out of infinites
>mfw I start my touhou music torrent
ehehe, easy >:D
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so with prestige levels you don't get a better bloodweb, just better luck on mistery boxes?
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>>154921857
I think you don't get anything. Frogs tricked us. It's all placebo effect.
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what to use to record gameplay? no gtx for shadowplay, amd counterpart doesn't work anymore
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>>154898623
>implying that blogpost was discussion
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>>154925158
OBS
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>that moment when 3 people are down, you're injured & chased by the hillbilly while there's no pallets on suffocation pit with 3 gens to go

bald dwight sucks, never again
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>>154927293
JESSE
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>>154926437
Why do you get triggered by people talking about the game they're playing anon? Did your father touch you when you were young?
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>>154927887
I don't have a problem with blogposting or discussing the game, but to claim one is the other in an attempt to validate yourself is wrong.
>>
>>154890365
>trinity
What exactly is this? Sprint rush, spine chill, self heal?
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>>154930386
Sprint/Self heal/Sabotage+(spine chill/premonition/kindred)
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>>154930746
>Kindred
That's not part of the trinity, where is this coming from? Trinity used to be sprint burst/self heal/sabotage and then it became sprint burst/self heal/(Spine chill or Premonition or Adrenaline) but definitely not kindred.
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>>154930746
>>154931071

I'm sorry, but botany knowledge is the 4th perk.
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>>154931071
The first THREE are the TRInity. The last are just options for the forth perk.
>>
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/350542145693547179/
>Devs said it's not okay for survivors to feel safe
>But it's literally okay if they stand in the exit because they're not technically safe since if they go AFK then a killer could bring them down without NOED 3
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>>154931224
But botany isn't a broken perk like self care and saboteur are.
>>
>>154931543

Lets you heal faster at infinites, way faster.
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>>154931740
20% is not way faster and if I'm not mistaken that bonus is not applied to self healing.
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>>154931534
What would you suggest to fix standing in front of the exit? Just give them their lovetap and move on if it's such a huge issue for you.
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>>154892387
Dats some good b8
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>>154892217
Murf is a social justice warrior if someone mentions cancer he flips shit
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>>154932516
>murf
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How does Murf have so many hours played and so few achievements? Can he not adapt?
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>>154932152
Have the invisible wall constantly fluctuate. Could be close, could be 100 yards away. Survivors won't know and could get fucked.

Alternatively add an animation period to the invisible wall and enable killers to grab survivors out of It like a locker/trunk/generator grab.

Both add incentive to gtfo.
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>>154933931
Of course this won't happen though, because anything that makes survivors act like survivors instead of annoying fuck faces meets immediate push back from the community.
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>>154933931
Both also punish close escapes, and the fluctuating exit thing just sounds like garbage. Better question, why do they need to be punished or changed at all when there's already a legitimate and extremely easy tactic to countering them?
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>>154933661
>check his profile
>all achievements are survivor related
>check his in progress ones
>surprised 13 survivors with the wraith
>chainsawed 15 survivors
>caught 31 survivors in bear traps
>blink attacked 5 survivors as the nurse

Oh my!
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>>154934273
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>>154931915
Yeah, it's only real use is to support others, or to get 3 self heals out of a medkit when used with some other stacked bonus.
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>>154935232
So basically if you run botany, self care and street wise you can get a few extra uses out of your medkit. What else could you run to assist in that? Prove thyself?
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>>154934273
who gives a fuck about achievements lol
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>>154933661
>>154934273
stop bullying murf. he donates his free time to keeping the forums clean and helping people. he also does it without monetary compensation
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>>154935049
Checked the achievements. 3.1% of players has wraith one, 0.9 for hillbilly and 0.6 for trapper. The fuck? Either the numbers are fucked up, or the game has even worse situation than i imagined.
Even the hook escape has 9.9
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>>154935932
>tfw in the 0.9%
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>>154935932
might be free weekenders contaminated the actual numbers
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>>154934248
Close escapes are fun but the survivors feeling safe is a much more common event.
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>>154936606
Do you really want to turn the exit gate into another stalemate situation?
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>angrymug asking his viewers to write him twitch msg'es so he knows who to give the ingame shirt codes to, due to limited number

How much you want to bet he'll throw a skin your way if you say you'll donate 100$? Even though he said it's subs only for the most part, so he might check if you're subbed to see if you're not full of shit.
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>>154935932
To be fair the Wraith one is a hell of a lot easier.
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>>154936675
The original suggestion wasn't even my idea, but I don't think it's fair to compare it to how hatch gameplay works because it's a different scenario. 1 hatch and 1 guy vs 2 exits with at least 2 survivors.
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All you entitled killers whining about the upcoming Nurse nerfs need to move on. She's fucking broken. The blink is faster and more controllable than the hillbilly, which is also broken by the way. I don't think she should be able to walk at all, just blink. I mean her feet aren't even on the ground for fucks sake.
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>>154936898
If you put an animation on it and chase the guy to the exit, he's going to be forced to wait until you hit him to do the exiting animation, and you're going to have to wait until he starts the exiting animation to grab him. The result is the same.
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>>154936841
I don't know. Dew ranks higher, when people start using the headstart from Wraith, it feels easier to get the achievment for melee-billy.
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>>154937209
Nice Steam forum post, you remembered to swap the censored words back in.
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>>154936760
Why would you want that cuck shit?
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>>154937878
One less angry pug costume in use sounds nice to me.
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>>154938028
Who cares if they use it? It's a faggot identifier.
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>>154937878

I wouldn't want it. I'm not sure what I'm even doing watching this fuckstick. I just wish someone wrote him a msg and check if he's a bigger sellout than cancer survivor.
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If I see anyone wearing an Angry pug shirt I will drop every single pallet that I can before I die.
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>>154938193
Because this thread is full of easily triggered pussies
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>>154938651
Don't be rude, refer to them as killer mains like you're supposed to.
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>>154931534
>A steam forum user is using my level one retard image

This is triggering me more than I'd like to admit
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>>154940105
Sorry mate, i've only made a couple shitposts on that shithole
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>>154940383
Oh, we're cool then familia.
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Aight, closed his stream already. If anyone still doubting he deserves face camping and all of the people with his shitty shirt.

https://oddshot
.tv/shot/ANGRYPUG_/UzqmTgaqmThKEoGsmLPtY6OH
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The last five games I've played were against botting killers. Have whiny survivor shitters really made the game so unbalanced that killer players have just given up?
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>>154935370
I don't think there's any other PERKS that improve med efficiency, but you can pile on attachments, like bandages/gel pads.

Or you could go in the other direction and use Plunderer's Instinct so you can get more medkits to get more uses out of...?
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>>154942802
The new update is confirmed to nerf two killer perks and no survivor perks. Also, the Nurse is getting fucking butchered to the point where I suspect she'll be the least used killer.
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>>154942802
They're usually more active at night
Also which region are you on, i'm looking for bots to learn maps at my own leisure and shit
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>>154935932
I'm pretty sure the stat tracking is some kind of fucked up for this game, or at least it used to be near the start.

My "time played" is way lower than I feel it should be, and I've missed out on achievements for seemingly no reason.
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>>154943134
But they fixed infinites so that you can use killers that aren't nurse so it's okay.
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>>154941612
This is who the devs cater to.

Fuck this shit. I honestly don't see how anybody could think the devs AREN'T biased.
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>>154943210
After I got Adept Dwight, all my other Adept achievements stopped tracking. Their stat tracking is shit.
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>>154943000
So, am I understanding correctly that item charge depletion scales with your action speed?
Like, healing someone with a medkit uses the same amount of charge regardless of speed-ups from perks/"great" checks?
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>>154944181
As far as I can tell, you use up a certain amount of charges a second. A "great" check cuts down on charges used because you finish quicker.
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>>154805983
Nice
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>>154944419
So, in a way, "improved item efficiency" and "improved action speed" both improve item efficiency?
We should probably precision test this at some point. If this is really the case, then stacking speedup perks are way more useful than we expected.
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Can I drop a single pallet without being warped to the wrong side? Fuck
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Is that infinite blocker gonna work on any vault point? Or is it just for windows?
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>>154949591
Only windows.
Coincidentally, after AngryPug announces his uninstall, all windows on every map will mysteriously turn into regular vault points.
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We can all agree sprint burst and self care are overused so how can we buff the other survivor perks so that we'll see more usage of them?

Also, when is iron grasp and deer stalker going to be nerfed? This is ruling the killer meta.
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>>154949591
It's most likely not going to work at all.
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>>154952434
deerstalker is getting nerfed next patch
iron grasp is fine as long as saboteur exists
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>>154952434
>>154952732
after reading this a second time I realize that it's a survivorbabby steam forum post
sorry
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>>154952983
>we can all agree that these two survivor perks are overpowered
>so how can we make other survivor perks overpowered so we have more to choose from?

Can't tell if this is a forum post or a developer meeting transcript
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>>154952434
>>154952983
>>154953070
At this point, coming to this general is like smoking cigarettes. I know it's bad for me, I don't know why I keep doing it, it doesn't do anything good, it gives me cancer, but I keep fucking coming back for more.
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>>154953904
Will you fuck off so that I can smoke in peace?
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If I don't play Nurse games are over so fucking fast.

In the time it takes one faggot to use 5 pallets the others have fixed 2-3 generators.
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Been restricting myself to 2 blinks except when I see a Dwight I really hate. It doesn't really change anything. The movement speed change will probably make IG3 a requirement though.

And holy shit all the hate I'm getting since she's now "officially" over powered is insane.
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>>154914767

I want so badly for it to be what it isn't, but I know that what it should be ain't gonna ever be made.
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>>154946205
Okay, I just did some testing.
I can confirm with certainty that "action speed" has no bearing on efficiency. You'll complete an action quicker, but it will use the same amount of item charge. (I tested with medkits, I'm assuming this holds true for everything).

Skill checks, however, do have an effect on efficiency. Hitting a "great" will straight-up add progress to the meter without deducting the equivalent amount of item charges, so if you hit greats, you will get more use out of your item. If you lose progress by missing, you will have to spend more charges to make up for the lost progress, reducing efficiency.

Actually pretty sensible.

One more thing I noted: self-heal and other-heal actually use the same amount of charge by default.

What we should still test is if "healing speed" improvements discriminate between self-heal and other-heal, and how. We already know certain "efficiency" perks (eg. Self Care) only improve efficiency if used for a certain action (self-heal, in this case).
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I seriously have not played a game with Nurse today where some fuck head doesn't complain in post game. Before the stream it was 1 in 4.
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>>154957826
That's just how people work anon.
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>>154957826
Because the devs """"confirmed"""" she was OP, stop playing OP killers :^)
>tfw I point out that a nerf to her move speed could actually make her move slower than a normal sprinting survivor
>Someone insists a normal sprinting survivor naturally outpaces every killer
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>>154957826

At least playing against Nurse feels tense again.

It's almost like this game wants you to experience being hunted down by an evil being who you would never stand a chance against without a little luck and teamwork.
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>>154958373
That's not at all what the game wants.
The game wants to consistently pander to whiny survivorbabbies and Twitchcancer.

Literally nothing in this latest patch nerfed the incredibly OP survivors. The entire patch is a massive killer nerf. Like they needed it.
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>>154958045
The retard could have thought by sprinting you meant sprint burst.
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>>154952434
>These perks are overused! We should buff other survivor perks so they'll get used more

>These perks are overused! NERF THEM IMMEDIATELY

Do these people have any ounce of self-awareness or even read anything they type?
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doors open
1 guy on hook
2 circling
I'm a camper.

Guy said I should go away and wait for the unhook, then chase.
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>>154958693
Removing infinites, while technically a mechanics change than an actual nerf, will at least affect them.

Deerstalker / ANC are pretty minor nerfs.

Nurse is fucking dead though, even I won't try and defend that.
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I don't understand how this game has reached this state. Are there really so many butthurt children who think all four survivors need to make it out, and can't stand the idea of not escaping? The most fun games I've had as survivor were the ones where only I escape, or just me and another guy. It actually feels tense that way, and if I die early, whatever, I can just start a new game. Survivorbabbies should be gassed.
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>>154959201
survivor mains are throbbing cancer
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>>154958830
To be fair it wasn't a steam post, I just made it up. BUT IT'S A GOOD ONE, HUH?
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>>154958830
Nah, in the first statement they're talking about survivor perks. In the second statement they're talking about killer perks. Survivorbabbies (and the devs who whore out their game to them) are just like that.
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>>154959201
Let me guess, they had all of their meta perks on, used offerings to get to ebin infiniloop farm, and acted like obnoxious teabagging children the whole game?
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Why are people crying about nurse?
What are they changing? one less blink?
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>>154959327

People get upset when the bad guy wins. It's endemic.
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>>154958830
I didn't even notice the gigantic amount of irony here Jesus

>buff my survivor perks, don't nerf them
>but NERF KILLER PERKS!!!!!!!!
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>>154959464
One less blink, and even slower than she is now.

So presumably she's going to be SLOWER than a running survivor. At beast 1-3% faster.
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>>154959215
Removing infinites isn't a mechanics change or a nerf, it's an exploit. Anybody with more than half a brain should realize that it's not a survivor nerf, it's literally making the game work as it should. The lunge fix wasn't a killer nerf, it was making the game work as it should.

>pretty minor nerfs
Deerstalker nerf means that we have to rely on ANC now.
And, as """""luck""""" (read: worthless fucking biased as shit devs) would have it, ANC is literally worthless now. Since it's only 28 meters and your terror radius begins at 36 meters, literally any survivor can just stop healing as soon as they hear a faint heartbeat and completely fucking nullify ANC. It's terrible.
And Spies has also been nullified by crouch.

I have no idea how anybody could have fucking thought this update was acceptable. It's just a fucking massive killer nerf. The devs are slimy pieces of shit.
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What's the point, bros?

Anything worth a shit on killer side will get nerfed and I absolutely refuse to ever run self care and don't like wasting BP on Survivors anyway
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>>154959616

Are they trying to make the blink a sort of "skillshot" technique, forcing you to blink very accurately (while blind) and then get the pre-stun swipe in before they bolt?

Or is it not even that thought out?
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>>154959616
That definitely doesn't sound too bad to me.
Third blink was always a bit too much I think. it forgave two failed attemps and she'll still have the crazy addons to increase the blink amount back to what it was.

The ability to go through obstacles is pretty strong, and the way a good Nurse catches people is pretty much always a one blink --> lunge attack.
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Jesus christ this game is a nightmare to start playing. My friend really wanted me to get it, but every survivor game I'm up against a max level killer who just wallhack murders me with all his perks before I can get enough points to do jack shit after I die. If I play killer, I get matched up against max level survivors who are effectively impossible to catch, and if I ever do hit one, heal up almost immediately. Why is there no fucking game mode that has no perks? This shit is impossible for new players.
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>>154960240
Play survivor and by level 25 you'll be fine.
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>>154959840
If the infinite fix is implemented even remotely well, it still does killers a fucking load of good. I'm never going to say it's a buff, but to say it's not a massive help to killers is silly.

Deerstalker shouldn't overlap with Nurse's calling. And even then, there's nothing stopping you from hearing how fucking loud healing is--or even spooking survivors away from healing if they get close enough, which immediately informs you that someone just stopped healing them if they happen to be in your peripheral.

Also, walking 8 meters is barely anything given killer speed.

It's stupid that they're not adjusting self-care or even attempting to adjust SWF and all but you're just bellyaching, dude.
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>>154960402
That'll take me at least 15-20 hours of getting my shit pushed in, I'm really doubtful that the payoff will be worth it. What fucking retarded dev thought making perks that effect gameplay this fucking heavily would be a good idea? Just reading the perks in the wiki is driving me crazy, it takes only a small amount of thought to see that high level survivors will be effectively invincible, and high level killers will absolutely shut down any new players who can't just wear all those bullshit perks. Of course this fucking game makes you sit in the lobby for so fucking long that I can't even get a refund now, so that's just great.
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>>154959840
Cynically speaking, I can't really blame them for favoring survivors.

Make the game hard for killers, you're gonna have one salty dude per game.

Make the game hard for survivors, you're gonna have four salty dudes per game.

Simple statistics. Shitting on survivors generates more rage than shitting on killers.
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>>154960690
The really bad part is how there are like 5 OP perks that are must have, and everything else is basically trash. So because of RNG it's a complete luckshot how long it will take a newbie to get on the meta level.

At this point, I really would just suggest hacking BP if you're new. The potentially days-long grind of getting shit on just so you can _start_ competing isn't worth it.
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>>154960240
For survivors, luck and skill comes before perks.
It might be shitty at first but once you get the hang of it, perks will just feel like a bonus.

Basically learn to do these two things:
1. avoid crows, closets, chests and generators when you know killer is near
2. hide and don't panic, even if the killer is walking towards you, it doesn't mean they know you're there. Crouching in the tall-grass and pre-emptively going in a closet are surprisingly effective unless the killer has soundboosting perks

Just never try to hide when wounded, because you make so much noise, you're better off running or walking constantly.

Here's an extra tip:
You probably know about the tracks you leave when running, you can use those to fool the killer.
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>>154961291
You should also play a few games as the killer, just so you can get the feel for how their gameplay works.

Hiding from killers becomes way simpler as soon as you realize:
1)How their view is limited
2)How little time they have to fine-comb an area

Also also: don't underestimate certain offerings. Thicker fog and darker moonlight can seriously wreck the killer's already limited vision.
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if devs cared about survivors, they wouldn't nerf them every update...
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>>154961851
I like how survivors always list the same things when asked about nerfs.
>OP perks rebalancing from ages ago
>Saboteur no longer being completely silent for no reason
>Vaults reworked to not be as spammable
>Infinite removals
>Every update is a new killer nerf and another attempt at an infinite """"fix""""
Guarantee that the new fix won't work and there will still be infinite loops as far as the eye can see.
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HAHA OH MAN

>8%!!!

>15%!!!!!!

YOU SURVIVOR BABS ARE FUCKED... HAHA!
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>>154962759
At absolute bare minimum it'll fix problem spots on Ironworks, Abbatoir, The Silo and Coal Tower off the top of my head.

Asylum, though? They'd have to board up one of the sun room windows and even then there's a fucking clowncar worth of vault windows in there.
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>>154962962
>Make skill checks the same every single time
>Give an audio cue just before they happen
>Trigger moves the same speed every single time
>Succeeding a check automatically boosts your completion a little, doing well gives a huge jump
>Devs make a perk that triggers more skill checks while barely affecting the success zone
What a great "perk."
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>>154963104
It shouldn't give the survivor a warning that they're about to close off the jump point. If they're spamming a single window they deserve to slam into a wall without warning.
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>>154963365
Probably not but I'm reserving judgment until I know how the full system works. Maybe something nice will happen.
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>>154962962

Imagine if it just replaced the 150 skill check with a 100% fail zone - a red mark of sort. Could also trigger more skill checks too.
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>>154963589
It'll work about half the time. The other half the spawning of the entity will throw the killer underneath the map if they're within a 36m radius.
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>play hillbilly
>kill 3 people
>do pretty good
>on asylum
>last bitch gets the 2 generators in the asylum because if I dont fuck her with that generator near the windows i'll never catch her ever again
>she runs to the farthest door
>almost get her but miss the swing
>stand there as she escapes
>wish them gg's and joke about how i almost got her
>"lol nope"
>"camping fag"
>"not even close"
>"worst hillbilly i've ever seen"
>"kill yourself fag"

Why is the killer the most fun yet most under rewarded role? Like fuck, feels like you need to kill all of them before they decide to even acknowledge you and even then they still get fucking mad
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>>154963365
>>154963589
>be AngryPug
>just finished my hourly ritual of being sucked off by French Canadian game developers
>decide to boot up Teabag Simulator 2016 and rake in a few hundred thousand dollars for the evening

>Asylum
>wait for Spies to trigger
>immediately Sprint Burst to the infinite as soon as the killer sees me
>vault through the same window 20 times
>game tells me "Hey knock that off kiddo! :)"
>Sprint Burst to the exit gates, which were both opened 13 minutes ago
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>>154963725
>Equip Presence
>Randomly flips skill checks so that the succeed zone is still a fail zone and makes the perfect check spot smaller and the only possible success zone
>At rank 3 the effect extends just beyond terror radius
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>>154964174

Trash-talkin' the villain, basically. Survivor mains are also egotists.
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How the fuck do you get decent at survivor? For the last five rounds I've played every single time I am the first one to be found, first one to be hooked, and first one to die. 9 times out of 10, I get shat on by one of my survivor buddies, whether by abandoning me completely or by vaulting as slowly as possible right in front of me. But I don't run around like a spaz, I don't blow up gens, and I try to avoid crows when possible. Why am I always the first cunt the killer goes for?
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>>154964174
If you got survivors assmad it means you did well as a killer, the only of way of getting praised by surbabs is being a friendly killer cuck
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>>154964529
Don't work on a generator the moment the game starts. Wait for the killer to patrol to your generator and then leave. Then start working on it.
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>>154964529

poor luck

Surviving is distressing at first, but the one thing you really gotta learn is - turning your camera back at the killer while running from him. Might be hard when you're still completely lost on maps, but there are many set of objects with pallets that you can run loops around. You should start with those where you can see the killer at all times. So basically, whenever you go - always look for the closest juking spot, don't run into places where you're literally fucked.
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>>154964529
Wait for the killer to pass by a generator before working on it, wait for the killer to latch onto some other poor sap before doing anything, always plan an escape route when you stop somewhere. Also check the hooks to see what killer it is since every killer has unique hooks.
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>>154964617
>>154965019

I fucking knew that dbdg survivors would be pussy enough to just wait for others to start being chased until they start working on anything. Like get good. And I don't even mean infinite abusing with that.
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I hate IG. Even as a killer I refuse to use it. All it does is deny free points both sides could get. A killer can work around the fact that he has to carry someone across the map. Just let them off your shoulder and then hit them again. Make sure you aren't standing next to a window or pallet when they get free. Then keep carrying them. That gives the survivor 500 survival points for wiggling free. That gives you 250 for survivor found, and 300 for a hit. Those are points that IG takes out of the game.
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>>154965240
You don't need to wait for them to be chased, just to wait for them to patrol by your generator first.
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>>154965314
>Just let them off your shoulder and then hit them again.
They've got what, 10 seconds and a speed boost to reach a pallet before you catch up?
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>>154965314
>you got 500 points so you had fun
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>>154965314
>manage to catch infinijuker because he fucks up
>just let him wiggle free
Are all survivorbabs as stupid as you?

Even if I will catch him again it is absolutely possible that I will waste so much time on him because of the sprint burst it won't be worth those 600 points. While I'll be wasting that time, his friends will be safely repairing generators. So, no, thanks. I'll get more points by getting more survivors before they escape. If nobody escapes after all I will for sure either make more points or make points a lot faster.
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>>154966090
550, which is more than the survivor gets. Quit being so entitled.
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>>154966308
I get 1250 for them fucking dying and they only get 600 or so that seems like a better trade to me =^)
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>>154966308
>bloodpoints are worth more than survivor butthurt
Oy vey goyim, all that free digital currency you're missing out on.
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>>154965240
>How dare survivors try to hide from me?
>They shouldn't be smart and wait for safety, no, they should always expose themselves to risk! Yeah! Git gud!
You make all killer mains look bad.
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>>154967241

I play both.
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>>154967241
You're supposed be cautious, not a sackless pussy
You're basically betting on someone who could be some random rank 20 to stall and juke the killer, why not just prepare to fulfilling that role if you're the guy who gets found?
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>>154967760
>Waiting for the killer to be busy isn't cautious
;)
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>>154967241
In fairness, it's a dumb strategy on a team level. If you're a team of four survivors doing this, you forfeit the minute or so of activity you could be doing before the killer finds their first target. Even if your lack of activity makes the killer take three minutes to actually find and chase a survivor, that doesn't matter if for those entire 3 minutes you're sitting behind a rock jacking off.

As a solo player, by making sure some other poor cunt is the one who is going to eat shit this round, you get the benefit of not walking out of the game with a sub-4k score, but you make it less likely that everyone on the team will escape.
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So when will chainsaw man be nerfed??? Their is literally no way to successfully rescue other hooked survivors against him. His chainsaw needs to be limited hugely, it's just not fair for a killer to constantly have NoED3.
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>>154968520

get good
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>>154968604
Alright then big boy, how do you save hooked survivors from the Hillbilly without suiciding yourself or the hooked person?
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>>154968747
by not quoting steam forum posts
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>>154968887
Thats not a proper response, I ask again, how do unhook a survivor with out it being suicide.
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>>154968887
There's a vague point in there though, it's near impossible to pull off a rescue from the hook against a hillbilly. He can wander a mile away but be back in a second. Not that survivors are entitled to rescues, but it does seem shitty.
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>>154968747

First case scanario : billy doesn't camp and just patrols/goes to check on the other downed survivor - free unhook. Second scenario - he hard camps so you just ignore him and do gens. Third scenario, you really want the unhook despite him being close - fake going for the unhook and run behind/next to the hook, most of the time Billy will hit into the hooked person ( but it's unlikely you'll ever pull it off considering you have to ask such basic questions ).
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>>154969035
You don't help your SWF buttbuddy and actually repair generators It's the same as camping, except Billy doesn't have to camp. Yeah I can see how that seems a bit off, but he's also currently one of two competitive killers due to that same chainsaw. I don't see how we could change his rescue-killing ability without making him a piece of shit like Nurse or Wreath
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>>154969035
>>154969045
quick transportation is part of his ability, and the nurse does it better than him anyways
keep an eye on where he is headed, watch out if he walks in a straight line (and if he does, abandon your team-mate and start working the gens)
quickly unhook if he starts chainsawing in the opposite direction, he has a cooldown after chainsawing (even regular hits)
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does anyone want to play RIGHT NOW

figured i'd be getting a lot more points with other people who know how to play the game
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>>154849854
Almost all of the imbalances in favor of the survivor came from abusing exploits so fixing them is a huge deal balance wise. The crows nerf is almost irrelevant since slowly walking back and forth in the same place was enough to keep them off you.
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>>154972451
The largest advantage survivors have ever had was always voice chat. The game is a mess and can never be taken seriously as long as SWF is forced upon killers.
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>>154972765
>The largest advantage survivors have ever had was always voice chat.
I have to disagree. I rather face a SWF group than go up against magic school bus type shenanigans as the entire game starts to revolve around such magic spots.
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>>154973208
You say that like infinite loops and SWF are mutually exclusive and not
>"Okay killer is chasing me, heading for the loop over here, work on gens."
>"He gave up, heading towards X"
>Survivor at X already walking towards loop just in case
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>>154973495
With SWF I can still catch people. With infinite loops I may not be able to catch people even in PUGS. I've played too many damn games where I've had multiple fucks hanging around loop spots in PUGS when loops were at their worst.
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I forgot how hard it was to play survivor without perk. Actually feels pretty satisfying surviving.
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>Meg with Angrypug jersey and toolbox joins the lobby
>killer closes it instantly
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>>154975824
He should have waited for it to hit 6 seconds and then closed it.
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>SWF team automatically finds my traps on asylum loop
>Disarm
>Sabotage ;)
>lmao let's run the loop guys!!! Keep working on the gens in the main building too cuz there's 0 way for him to catch up!!
>Close match
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>tfw hillbilly grabs me at the beginning on farm
>leaves me on the ground
>sacs the other three
>comes backs for me
>takes me to a gen
>whacks it
>lets me wriggle out
>get the idea
>do this for 3 more generators
>then takes me to the hatch
>gives a goodbye whack and lets me crawl in
I guess he reasoned I must have been low level since I didn't instantly run to the huge tractor thing nearby? It was still nice, thank you grayson if you're here.
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>>154977056
>Kited for like 4 minutes by a BMing claudette.
>Jake accidentally wanders into frame
>doesn't use the infinite
>I don't even have the heart to finish him off

I should have, I could have used him as bait to lure the shitters out.
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>>154977875
I've done this a few times. Then after so many SWF groups and prestiged fuck faces I can't stomach it anymore. I ask myself "when was the last time a survivor let me sacrifice them when they were standing at the exit gate?".

The answer is never.
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>>154977875
No problem brah
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>Keep getting prestiged claudettes in lobbies
>Toolbox jakes
>Multiple SWF shitters joining the lobby at the same time
I just want to actually have a playable game
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Meg has such a cute butt. I want to use it as a pillow. :3
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>>154978584
I'd like to believe that it's really you, but if you could just do me a favor and
what was my name?
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>>154979058
ipwnlocks
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>>154978749
>tfw use toolboxes for gens instead of being a useless piece of shit and claudette prestige shirt just for the stealth and get dodged because of those hook memeing and infinite cunts
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i've played dead by daylight for some time now and i've noticed killers are too fast and too overpowerd humans need to have perks that add more hits and longer time on hook and definatly with getting off the hook you should be invenstible for 10 seconds once off the hook so that you cant just be downed and put back on instantly you know what I mean?
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>>154979173
Good joke, thanks for getting my hopes up you bully
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>>154975824
>>154976098
Completely justified.
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Please face camp Stiff if you see him. I'll give you 10k BP and a full moon bouquet.
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>>154979247
I agree in being investable after getting off the hook, killers need some form of retirement fund.
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>>154979970
Any special reason why?
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How do you counter the combine again?

(Don't post the hay trick.)
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>>154980474
space
billy
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>Finally get trapper to 40 and snag last teachable
>Can finally be skillbilly like I've dreamed
>First game I ruin a rank 4 kitted out claudette's dreams
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>>154980474
Vault to force them to go down, then vault back
Vault to the side of the hay thing without doing the hay trick, to see if they run away like scaredy cats expecting the jump
Space program billy, see
>>154876850
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>>154980607
>>154980858
How do I space program Billy with the combine?
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>>154980280
He was bullying a newbie Billybro.


https://www.twitchDOTtv/stiffweasle/v/89704623
06:07
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>>154980941
Did you check the quoted video up there?
If you hit a wall while on mid air on spots like that, you space program
It works with sprinting survivors and lunges, but billy has way more speed so that happens

https://www.twitch
.tv/flare2v/v/89028946?t=1h57m10s
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>>154980969
This is the first time I've seen you show compassion towards a new killer, Sloppy. I am pleasantly surprised.
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>>154963223
>hear heartbeat
>go to leave gen and hide
>skill check sound just as you let go of M1
>you've now alerted the killer that he's picked the right gen to check
>forced to either sprint away and leave a trail or try sneaking away and hope he doesn't find you despite him knowing that you're there
>alternatively, you manage to finish the check, but now you have less time to hide

But yeah, it really should be buffed. Devs seem to be shit when it comes to deciding percentages (among other things).
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>>154981670
Devs are already planning to fix checks popping the second you leave, so that won't work.
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>>154981331
Okay, so that's how you space program in Asylum. How do you space program on the combine?
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>>154981842
Check the other video i quoted up there, man
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>>154981983
Oh wow I didn't even notice that. Thanks famiglia.
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>>154981670
Just make it so that you force a harder skill check as you get within a certain radius of a player doing something, but it has a cooldown that is hidden to you as the killer.
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>>154982956
>More cooldowns for killer perks
Back to the steam forums Murf.
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>>154983064
>take perk with no cooldown that works at 16 metres
>use nurse's calling
>do a little dance when I see someone getting healed to overload them with constant skill checks like the dirty memelord I am

It doesn't have to be a long cooldown, could be 12 seconds, it'd just be retarded if a killer is dicking about, accidentally or purposefully making 5 skillchecks happen at once.
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>Leave these threads for a month
>Come back
>People still assravaged by infinites when the Nurse exists

Jesus.
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>>154983658
Seems fair to me considering survivors repeatedly crouch to teabag while abusing broken mechanics like the shitters they are.
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>>154983803
>People get upset over exploits that have yet to be fixed
who knew
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>survivors still try to swarm suicide save their friends when I'm hillbilly
There's 2 things that happen.
Either
>You trade spots with the person on the hook because you get chainsawed while they run off
or
>You get chainsawed before you can even finish unhooking them and now become bait as well
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>>154983803
>Nurse about to be made as shitty as possible
>People will legit still insist she counters infinites when the infinite "fix" ends up not working
>>
>use darkest moon
>killer d/c immediately after start
>says "gee, that sure looked like a good offering you had :^)"
>leave without replying
It's okay, killer. I cheated all those BP and I have 20 of those things. I'll leave you to your grind.
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>>154984428
Nurse is getting nerfed? What's happening?

God I hate playing against that whore.
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>>154984864
Slower and default of 2 blinks, wraith 2.0
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>>154984864

2 base blinks, lowered walk speed
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>>154983803
Have you considered that people want to play killers that aren't the nurse?
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>>154984864
She'll be actually slower than survivors now and only gets 2 blinks base and 5 blinks max with addons
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>playing trapper
>find a clearly new, and confused Dwight
>down him in record time, hook him, but no bear trap underneath because I felt kinda bad
>go away and find a jake and hook him, bear trap him
>dwight is off and healed by this point
>light camp because the two cluadettes who helped dwight left sprint marks on the trees in the direction of Jake
>low and behold they try to save him, down one cluadette and injure the other, Jake fell into my trap.
>Jake gets re hooked and Claudette gets hooked
>only 1 gen done at this point
>Jake dies, soon followed by Claudette
>find Dwight again, hook him quicker than pie
>bear trap for the last claudette under Dwight
>completely leave
>SNAP.jpg
>Hook Claudette, she struggles and dies
>find Dwight hiding and crying out near a half done gen
>walk past, pretend not to see him and his bright white shirt
>he gets the gen done after exploding it twice. Im just laying traps over and over again for points
>half heart chase him around, purposely miss a few swings, still feel bad because he literally sprinted head first into my big trapped belly
>"lose" him
>let him get the rest of the generators
>he found a med kit in a chest because he healed himself
>doors are powered and close to eachother, back away from both and see Dwight sprint to open
>start walking up, giving him enough time to open it
>he opens it just as I get to him
>hit him as he sprints through exit
>he turns out to be a rank 20 running 'This Can't be Happening' v1
>"Holy shit dude that was so fucking close!! I can't belive I got away, gg man!"
>Feel all warm and fluffy on the inside.
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>>154986640
It's stories like these that warm my heart.
That was so sweet of you, Anon.
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>Exit match every time survivor abuses infinite
>Survivors wonder why queue times are getting ridiculous
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>>154986640
I wish I could do this but I mean I'm a rank 19 killer with highest level killer hillbilly at 9, I have common Iron Grasp, and I'm going against survivors that even at rank 20 have Sab, Sprint, and/or Self Care. It's hard to be nice.
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how do you do the rapid turn when you swing down the chainsaw? I've seen it on some Twitch streams.
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>>154986640
>he literally sprinted head first into my big trapped belly

That is my fetish anon, any chance a drawfriend could make a sketch of Dwight playing with and rubbing Trappers bulky belly?

Also great story anon, love nice killer greentexts.
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>>154987823
delete this
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>>154987823
delete this
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>>154985053
>>154985028
>>154985010
Sweet, I guess the patch notes were released early?

Slower move speed is something that should've been there at the start, but will 2 blinks fuck her shit up?
>>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/282174228428

Only $180 for CuckDwight
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>>154988057
It was in the dev stream.
>Slower move speed was needed
>Literally moving slower than survivors and has to rely on gimped teleport for every hit
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>stuck on hook
>trapper puts trap under hook
>jake disarms the trap when he leaves
>waits five seconds
>runs
>killer of course comes
>resets traps
>because he is right in front of the hook the jake can't actually get the unhook
>runs off again and out the exit game
>post chat
>"sorry dude he was bodyblocking lol"
>fucking streamer too
nigger had plenty of god damn time to do the unhook
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>>154988362
>a giant flashing "facecamp me" neon sign
No thanks.
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>>154988057
She already was slower, they're reducing the 5% gap on speed (other killers have 10%) between the nurse and survivors even more

If you want the 3 blinks back, you can get dark tinctures faster than you'll be able to spend them anyway
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>>154988362
>Wanting a skin that marks you out as "Kill first" or "Facecamp me" or "Just leave the lobby when the timer is at 6 seconds."
>>
I can't wait to see The Entity block a window
>>
>Peripheral bug for 3 matches in a row
>Already fixed in upcoming patch
>Devs refusing to roll out the bugfixes before the big ass update so we have to suffer until they feel like being generous
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>>154989159
Just happened with hillbilly
>went into basement after explosion mark
>see tracks as I'm at the bottom of the stairs towards the closets
>suddenly out of the corner of my eye something orangish seems to move past me
>turn around and quickly move up the stairs
>nothing
>go back down
>something moves again
>realize it's part of the hillbilly's fucking face bugging out
>go back to the closets and grab a green camo Jake.
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>>154989159
It is weird, they act like it's a console game and they absolutely have to release it in a bigger patch to maximize on the $10k Microsoft charges to patch.
>>
How to fix infinijukes:
>manually close up infinijuke windows in map editor
>add a stamina/fear system
>let killers tear down windows like pallets

OR the French Canadian frog way
>say you'll fix it, release a half-assed "patch" that uses RNG and does literally nothing to fix the issue, then after several more patches of nerfing killers into the ground to the point that barely anybody plays your shit game because you want to make the game as easy as possible for survivorbabby Twitchcancer who will promote your product for no charge, release a slightly less half-assed "patch" that literally gives the player a warning before closing up the window temporarily, at which point the survivor Sprint Bursts to the exit gates which were opened 10 minutes ago
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>>154959882

It use to be because Jason would threaten us every thread.

He hasn't done it in a while.
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amazing, quality programming. My game has been stuck like this for ten minutes.
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>>154990441
It's fine though the killer to survivor amount is totally even :^) Killers are definitely not quitting. Not finding matches is just a matchmaking problem.
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>>154980969

>HAHA! SOMEONE HAS THE NAME SLOPPY JOE!
>IT MUST BE FROM THAT SNL SKIT
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>>154980969
truly this is what the developers had in mind for their asymmetrical horror game about a crazed killer chasing down and hunting 4 poor survivors
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>>154980969

I just noticed, you meant 6 hours and 7 minutes

You had another match with him 6 minutes and 7 seconds into the stream.

That's fucking weird.
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>>154992134
and he was a combine abusing piece of shit there too
against a fucking wraith
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>>154992027
>implying this isn't what they want
Face it, the devs are worthless slimy pieces of shit. They fucking want their game to be unbalanced and broken and biased towards survivors because survivors give the devs more shekels (see: Twitchcancer, SWF shitters).
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>>154990441

It's been a while since I've seen your ass make that dumbass fear/stamina system suggestion.

It was stupid then and it's stupid now. The only thing it punishes are people who do legitimate chases.
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>>154993123
Clearly you have me confused for someone else, friendo, I've never made that suggestion before now.

It ONLY punishes people who do legitimate chases? Give me a break. It would mainly punish those who infinijuke. And why SHOULDN'T a survivor be afraid of a 7ft psychopathic inhuman mass murderer charging at them? They should not be fucking Olympian athletes with the medical precision of surgeons, they're bound to slip up. That's how fear works.
And in any case, even if it were that bad of an idea, it was just an example. That wasn't an instruction manual on fixing infinites, that was a list of suggestions. The devs could have done either of the two other suggestions to fix infinites, but instead they just quarter-assed an RNG-based solution that does nothing to solve the problem. It's fucking stupid.
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>>154993417
>RNG-based solution
>Get the mineshaft variation of macmillan estate
>"oh joy the infinite spawned and i just started playing hillbilly"
>find claudette
>Will not leave the mineshaft infinite
>acts smug when I just quit rather than deal with this bullshit
>devs holding back potential fixes just to make sure matchmaking is fixed for SWF faggots
what the fuck are these frogs doing
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>>154980969
>>154992134
>uh haha
>woo hoohoo
>ah hyah hay
>ahwuuha
<aegh heygh heygh

What did he mean by this?
>>
>play Trapper
>almost never catch anyone in traps unless it's one underneath a hook

How do I get better at trapping?
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>>154994686
Next to generators (If there's grass)
By windows
Trap the gate lever if you ever see them and have time.
>>
>have to sit in queues for 5 minutes because nobody wants to play nerf padded killers
>devs continue to nerf killers while doing little to nothing to fix all the broken bullshit that works in favor of survivors

WHY
H
Y
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>>154998847
Devs are short-sighted. They are just nonstop pandering to Twitchcancer survivors, since that makes them more money in the short term, but they seem to not realize that this will completely destroy the game (I highly doubt that anyone will be playing this piece of garbage in a year's time, at least not if the devs continue down this path of ruining killers).
>>
>tfw when you down an infinishitter after a 5 mins chase and then facecamp him
don't even care that I only got a safety pip, fuck those shitters.
>>
Why is it so fucking hard to find matches as a survivor holy shit
>>
>tfw shitting on a bunch of fully perked out shitters with a perkless trapper

It's almost like survivorbabies don't know how to fucking play the game when they don't have a place to infiniloop. Fuck this player base.
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>>154992134
Oh wow and I almost got murdered trying to help him.
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>>155000442
Because they nerfed killers and nobody wants to play them besides a few masochist. The killer population is going to keep dropping too unless the devs take the pants off their heads. I'd say the current ratio is something like 90:10 instead of 80:20 and it's only going to get worse.
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Look at that matchmaking. I was a fucking trapper too.
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>>154961291
>unless the killer has soundboosting perks
These perks are called "good headphones". I am surprised how many times I avoided killer when he was near me. When I play killer, survivors' breath is very loud without stridor. Does stridor increases radius at which it can be heared, by the way?
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>>155005235
I keep getting that kind of great matchmaking too, I've been lucky enough to go against people who don't infiniloop or just getting maps that don't have infiniloops, so I actually get a sac or two in. 9 bear traps for my daily is a nightmare.
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>>154963223
>>Devs make a perk that triggers more skill checks while barely affecting the success zone
Sabotage rank 1, anti-sabotage trap addons, spine chill, unnerving presence. How would that skill check zone look like?
>>
Is there any better feeling than completely fucking BMing infinilooping shits when they slip up in their BMs? Just turned what should have been a 4 escape asylum game into a 2 sac game as a perkless trapper because of the cocky emoting cunts.
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>>155007685
>not trapping the asylum beforehand
uhmm???
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>>155008009
>not having all your traps disarmed at all times because at least two faggots are coordinating over voice the whole fucking time

You're one of those guys who uninstalled and just shitposts here, aren't you?
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>>155008297
>not using walls
it's your fault kiddo
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>>154965314


Just cheat your blood points and be done with worrying about getting points and play how you want to play.

If you want to camp that survivor you caught and ruin his day? Go ahead.

Removing the bp grind makes the game fun to play, not having to worrying about getting at least 10k points a match to make it worthwhile. Or having all the add-ons/offerings/perks I could want.

Feels good to just be able to experiment with different killer and survivor perks.
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>there are trappers who don't use honing stone
?????
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>>155009732
This.

I've actually stopped using meme trinity perks as a survivor just so I can try out more interesting combos.

The ghost survivor build is probably my favorite. (Urban Evasion, Plunderer's Instinct, Lightweight, Premonition/SC. Combine with vision reducing addons. Solid snake around the map and loot items. Bonus points if you escape without ever being seen.)
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>>155010447
Switch plunderer to calm spirit and you're ok.
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>>155010630
>>155010447
Plunderer is just one of those perks I really want to like (I enjoy looting things), but it seriously needs some kind of extra effect.
Like a better chance to find something you need at the time or faster/quieter searching, for example.
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>>155010250
You will eventually run out if you plan on leveling anyone else.
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>>155010882
I would use it if it made looting 100% silent.
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>>155010882
How about this:

Plunderer's Instinct
Unlocks potential in one's aura reading ability. Chests' _and dropped items'_ auras are revealed to you when standing within a 16 meter/32 meter/64 meter range. _Searching chests is 10%/30%/50% faster, and makes 25%/50%/75% less noise._

It's still kind of a meme perk because of how few chests there are per game, but it might be usable for an "economy" build.
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>>155011348
I'd use it if it made chest give you two options when searched, so you can pick what you want and leave one behind
>>
No perk mode when?
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>>155011714
>Go to a chest with my perk
>Some fucking jake is there making a shitton of noise
>Crouchspam to try and get him to let me
>Nah brah, I see your game, I want my toolbox
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>>155011817
Why would survivors want to play without self care?
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>>155012197

some survivors have some self respect and treat it as a team game
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time to facecamp boys, let's see what these survivors have to say
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>>155012485
Thanks dude I had a good chuckle.
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>>155013035
I just had that too, was surprised that I didn't really encounter any whining while defending the hooks hard, and the guys still tried ballsy rescues.
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>>155013035

>when the hooks are gone and you can't even sacrifice people so you just stare at them at the ground

Sabo Jake has figured this game out, you should learn from him.

Also the game before I just stood in front of a hooked person, and they were ballsy enough to just run in front of my and let me instadown them with a grab.
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>>155014503
What the fuck is wrong with the community surrounding this game? I was going to buy it but after seeing some streams of asshole mouth breathing survivors and hearing countless horror stories really turned me off. Seriously, this is reaching the CS GO levels of cancer.
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>>155014993
The wonders of competitive multiplayer.
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>>155014993

It's a fun game anon, people just care about their "pips" too much. The game just brings in a lot of hypocrites, and it also doesn't help that streamers promote toxicity.

See here :
https://oddshot
.tv/shot/ANGRYPUG_/UzqmTgaqmThKEoGsmLPtY6OH

This is one of the top dbd streamers and he even gets backed up by the devs ( as you can see he's wearing a top with his logo on it, limited shirt only available to him and a few others ).

At least the moment infinites are fixed for good, angrypugs life might end aswell.
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It's really dumb that someone says "fair killer", when all I did was not camp. No one should have to camp to kill 4.
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>>155016802

It's a fight between abusing infinites and facecamping. Seeing how there's always more survivors than killers, they are in the right since it's the majority, so... infinites are okay, facecamping is bad.

Camping is a horrible strat to begin... but oh well, 2 sacs to go.
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>>155017647
>Tfw when killers are minorities
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>>154993417
t. has never been in a life or death situation
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Will she make it?

she didn't make it

Literally the last sacrifice I needed after catching this toolbox meg, and there were no hooks aside of the basement one ( which was obviously too far ).

The best part about these are when they're 99% on the ground, and someone just walks over to heal them, but doesn't body block. Back to the ground they go.
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I'm glad that there's going to be testing for the new patch that doesn't carry over saves. For a short time it'll be possible to reliably avoid survivors with the retarded trinity.
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Ended it like an hour ago, was pretty fun. Kind of bump post. Got new comments on my profile too.
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>level 6 survivor, my only "good" perks are Quick and Quiet (common) and Premonition (green)
>watch a Jake get downed as he vaults over the combine infinite
>wraith vaults over and goes to pick him up
>sneak up behind and stay on the top
>wraith hooks up at a nearby hook then runs off
>run down, get him off the hook, and haul ads to a nearby gate
>he starts opening it, since he's wounded I decide I'll take the hit from the wraith if he comes
>sure enough Wraith waltzes over
>I take the hit and run to into gate
>it's still closed
>he just ran off when the wraith was 3 feet away
>even though the gate should have Ben like 80% completed
>get hooked on the same hook the Jake was on
>in the distance I can see his outline stand near the switch for 2 seconds than runs out and escapes
fuck Jakes
fuck Dwights
fuck Claudettes
are Megs the only decent players?
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>>155023185
>fuck Dwights
Nothing wrong.
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>>155023185
>saving infinite users
It's like you wanted him to fuck you up.
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>>155023147
I don't know why he's mad, he pipped, he had fun.
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>>155023098
Pretty sure existing saves carry over, progress gained in the new branch won't.
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>>155024105
They haven't said one or the other so I can still dream.
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>>155023960
but I need muh altruism points so I can get trapper to 35 and Agitation and Brutal Strength on billy
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>>155024450

just cheat
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>Doors get powered
>Chainsaw straight across the map to the exit near the last powered gen
>Slam into Jake as he tries to get off switch
Can't wait for that to be nerfed too
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>>155025031
okay
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http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/5/350542145695856835/
Basements need two entrances and the hooks should be destructible, it's too hard to rescue from it!!
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Good to be back.
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>>155026276
The asylum basement should have two entrances because it's too fucking hard to find as a killer when you're carrying someone
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Wraith invisibility op?
I mean when he turn invinsible he dont make any noise or sound and walking around. How am I suppose to notice-avoid him.
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>>155026505

You can almost see him and you can also hear him, play more games or put on spine chill/preminition whenever you get it to rank 3.
But those are baby perks for learning purposes.
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>>155026276
The sad part is that something like this is probably going to be introduced later when enough survivor streamers start quitting if any anti-infinite measures ever work.

I mean, we can't allow killers (who are equal to survivors in number) to have any fun past maybe getting a safety pip, lest the survivor population rapidly drop for whenever even one gets hooked successfully.
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>>155026380
Fuck you faggot stay away
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>>155026659
>Replying to steam posts
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>>155027002

It just proves how little I think of some of you.
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>>155027002
>>155027002
as fare as we are aware there is no way out of the pocket dimesion the survivors are in and since the entity feeds off hope until the survivor is no longer a useful food source. But the promblem with what BlackyPaw theorized is that the entity would make the survivors into killers or kill them permentaly.

I did write an essay from hell about what the humans in the normal world could do to minimize its growth so i'll try to give you a run down of it.

Basically a human will kill a ton of people and make a new killer and a new area for the entity to latch onto so it can draw in new survivors. If the humans became aware of the entity the could quarintine these areas and keep guards around the clock to keep people from getting in (though undouptably new survivors would get drawn in everytime a new cursed area showed up)

It would slow the entity's growth to a crawl but it would still grow and its influence would spread and eventually consume the earth the only sure fire way to stop it is some orwellian style socity where thought police monitor every thought and swoop in everytime some has the urge to go on a killing spree or basically nuke the entire human race.
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>>155026384
It's always in front of the main entrance. Though, if you come in from the other side there's a very real chance of someone palleting you or the survivor wiggling out on the way there.
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Agitation+iron grasp and dragging swf kiddies down to the basement is more fun then it should be because they all go for basement saves for some reason.

Thinking about using insidious for more fun.
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infinite "fix" confirmed to be absolutely nothing
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>>155028085
Don't believe anything Murf says. He always pretends to be a part of the dev team and acts like he's close to them. That's almost certainly his own personal interpretation of what they discussed in the Q&A
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>>155028241
He sounds right though since it seems to not affect survivors in any real meaningful way.
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>>155028085
Good thing i've never relied on those morons to deal with infinites
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Trying out the new meta perk set.
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>>155028085
>Game warns me that my window loop will be blocked next vault
>Veer off to closest jungle gym with sprint burst
>wait until the warning goes away while my team finishes gens
>Sprint burst back to loop as exits are powered
>Killer quits, giving every survivor two pips, a unique angry pug cosmetic, and twenty thousand bloodpoints
>I go on the forum and complain that killers who disconnect need to be banned
I can see it now
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>>155028085
>survivors get warning before the window is blocked off so they know that after this loop to run off instead of getting stuck because they wanted to do it again
>is only blocked for that survivor, others can still come and use it
>window doesn't even stay permanently blocked for that survivor, disappears
>so one survivor can use it til it's blocked, then run off, then another can use the same spot, and by the time he's done the window has been unblocked for the first survivor
>doesn't fix infinite spots that have multiple windows next to each other (Asylum)
>doesn't fix if there are other nearby jungle gyms/infinities so while the 1st is blocked they use the 2nd then run back to the 1st once that one is blocked
or they could have just fixed it by
>if a survivor continues to use an infinite the entity grants the killer faster vault and run speed as long as they are still within chasing range of that survivor and the vaultable point
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>>155028085
I'm so fucking done with this game. Nurse and two killer perks are being nurfed for this shit?
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>>155030490
To be fair the three blinks shit was awful. Two blinks should be all you need. But they definitely didn't need to reduce her speed and let everyone avoid crows by duck walking.
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>>155030819
See needed some kind of nerf but this is a little extreme. I hardly even see people playing her anymore as it is.
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>>155030819
they should have either done one or the other, doing both is too much
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>>155029774
And they're never going to touch infinites again after this because they'll be "fixed"
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Someone make a new thread
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>>155031876
Why? Game is fucking dead.
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>>155031876
No...

Let it die. Just end it right here.
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>>155017997
Nice argument.
I'm assuming you have?
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>>155023147
I love how you use the "it's a strategy" excuse, since that's the exact excuse, word for word, that AngryPug uses for infinites.
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>>155032554
>Retards still comparing infinites to hook camping

S T O P
T
O
P
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>>155032686
I'm not comparing it, I think it's hilarious. It's like using "you pipped, you had fun" after a 4-man wipe. Using survivorbabby tactics against them.
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