/fgog/ - Fate/Grand Order General

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>FP gacha

FUCK OFF BOYS LOVE

What will the medb interlude bring

Skill buff, NP buff or quartz

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Praise Rhongomyniad

APK never.

>>154704082
>banepost OP
Absolute cancer.

>>154704179
NP buff that'll suddenly bump her into mid/top-tier and make people wanna roll her more.

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Xth for best archer

REMEMBER

Not all Servants are Heroic Spirits, but the vast majority of them are.

Counter Guardians are still Heroic Spirits.

Heroic Spirits past 1900 are a thing, they're just rare.

Age of birth is a silly metric for gauging the cutoff point, because birth is long before they did anything heroic.

>>154704378
That's not Archer Saber.

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Nito-chan!

>>154704493
>because birth is long before they did anything heroic
Hercules beat up divinely summoned sneks at birth m8

>>154704493
There has never been a true Heroic Spirit born post-1900. I'm not saying that's actually the rule, but that is the truth of it. CGs are not fame-related, so they do not count.

>>154704567
Hercules came long, long before any hard or soft cutoff point for Heroic Spirits.

>>154704608
But there have been Servants, which is all that matters because Servants are the ones who actually appear in grail wars. Nitpicking over HS is just being autistic.

>>154704608
>so they do not count
They do count.

Which hero would you see as servant in fgo?

I wanna see William Wallace as Berserker
Also illustrated based on Mel Gibson

>>154704608
>There has never been a true Heroic Spirit born post-1900.
That's likely a coincidence, because it doesn't make sense for that to be determined before anything heroic was done.

>>154704712
>which is all that matters because Servants are the ones who actually appear in grail wars
But we aren't getting Servants like Kuro or Shiki in a Grail War. At the most out-there we get Counter Guardians summoned through extreme coincidence and ancient Wraiths shoved in class containers.

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Tamamo!

>>154704712
No, the whole point is about Heroic Spirits.

>>154704608
Counter Guardians count as Heroic Spirits more than someone like Hassan or Mephistopheles does, since at least CGs reside in the Throne of Heroes.

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LIZ THREAD

>>154704975
>>154705083
>aren't even Heroic Spirits

>>154704928
>But we aren't getting Servants like Kuro or Shiki in a Grail War.
Because they are in GO and unlikely to appear again, not because they aren't Servants.

>the only times it happens are these totally super rare exceptions that happen in every Fate work to date and will happen in every Fate work written in the future

>>154704314
Inb4 they pull another Waver and she's the next 10.0

>>154704917
Chuck Yeager or Erich Hartmann as Rider

>>154704996
What is Clown? A true demon?

>>154704985
No it isn't. The only people talking about HS are the triggered BLfag who doesn't want Simo Hayha and the people telling him he's factually incorrect.

>>154704846
CGs do not get in through fame. They get a special pass and get to clean the shitty toilets out back for eternity.

There has never been an actual Heroic Spirit post 1900 because it's hard to become one. The modern world is currently in the age of information, science and technology, so becoming a legend is extremely hard, unlike old times when stories about heroes were spread mouth to mouth and people would believe them. In the modern world that does not happen anymore.

That's all there is to it. You can only get shit like the vigilante Emiya who made a pact or an urban legend like Shiki.

>>154705260
Simo Hayha still isn't going to be a Heroic Spirit for other reasons.

>>154705327
this

>>154705204
He's a homo like Mordred.

>>154705204
>Clown
>True Demon
He wishes, he's a homo who got buffed with IM.

So what kind of CE would you want to put on Kuro and Illya?

>>154705260
>simo hayha fags

Not that anon but, didnt those guys got btfo in this general some months ago anyway?

>>154704928
>But we aren't getting Servants like Kuro or Shiki in a Grail War.

Only if you look at Grail Wars based off the Fuyuki system.

It could happen with the Moon Cell, since they managed to get an Arcueid somehow.

>>154705320
Nasu is a hack that doesn't want to put modern people in the game for legal and practical reasons and any famous person that claimed to be a magician in the last century was a phony or outright liar

>>154705362
>>154705371
IM is one helluva drug.

>>154705260
Whenever someone talks about the "1900s rule", they're talking about Rin's comment about Heroic Spirits. The most recent Heroic Spirit was thought to be from before then, so people were initially surprised that Shuwho was one, but that just meant it wasn't as hard as initially thought. There is still a rough cutoff point somewhere within that timeframe and nobody born after 1900 has been shown to have made it yet.

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I just rolled this girl. Is she good?

>>154705454
>since they managed to get an Arcueid somehow.
Wasn't that literally the guy finding Arcueid and going "Come and join me and get the grail!" and her going "Sure. Sounds cool."

>>154705320
I think Nash could make an exception if they did something groundbreaking like Neil Armstrong or Yeager

>>154705327
>other reasons
BL not liking him? He have like half a dozen Servants who use guns and Billys NP is literally "had a good quickdraw". The guy was a survival and stealth expert as well,
>>154705418
Yes. It's an instant ban on BL to mention his name too because he triggers them so much.

>>154705454
Wasn't she actually the real Arc that just joined for shits, or am I remembering wrong?

>>154705454
Isn't Arc a fairy? How does that work?

>>154705567
What Simo did isn't terribly impressive when you compare him to ACTUAL Heroic Spirits. Even Shumeme.

>>154705567
Did you get bullied out of BL for posting about your badass of the week or something

>>154705567
That's really just a joke rule because so many unoriginal retards make really shitty and wanked Simo profiles. Think Nasu's Shuwen wank dialed up another notch.

>>154705536
Gameplayfags will say that she (male)'s garbage, but they are faggots anyway

>>154705553
Armstrong was mentioned to be a servant in Extra.

>>154705536
Yes. You'll really appreciate her skill, feminine wood.

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Nobu a CUTE.

>>154705518
>Whenever someone talks about the "1900s rule", they're talking about Rin's comment about Heroic Spirits.
That isn't true. The original post was "It sucks the 1900s rule means this guy can't be a Servant". He was told that there is no 1900s rule for Servants, which is the absolute truth and has been since FSN, the same work that has Rin who knows fuck all about Servants say oh it's about 100 years ago.

You trying to cover your ass by straight up lying doesn't change the truth.

You are the only person who gives a fuck about Heroic Spirits in a discussion about Servants, which are not the same thing.

>>154705627
Arc just happened to be there and Gatou convinced her to tag along
She was severely nerfed because Gatou is an idiot. Moon Cell wouldn't be able to handle Full power Arc anyway.

>>154705627
Sort of. Same class of being, but much higher on the totem pole.

She followed some weirdo who piqued her interest a little to the moon, and the Moon Cell freaked the fuck out and more or less forced her to comply to Grail War rules.

>>154705727
Shinji mentioned it in relation to the sea theme. People jumped on moon = moon Armstrong, but it was probably really sea = sea Armstrong.

>>154705802
Pako a cutest.

Is event Medb good? Or should I try to save for Illya next time she is in the rotation?

>>154705824
He was talking about the 1900s rule in relation to Heroic Spirits and the fact that his 1920s WW2 pilot would not qualify.

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Started adding Quick card and Extra attack NP gain. Only got assassins done atm.

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When will we get a design for Clown without IM?

>>154705683
Neither is what Boudica (died the moment she met an actual armed force), Manjew (got tortured and died) or Kojirou did (didn't actually perfect tsubame gaeshi in life).

There's no minimum requirement to be a Servant other then "have Nasu know you exist", which admittedly it's possible he doesn't.

>>154705842
The closest there is to a "sea Armstrong" is an Olympic swimmer even more recent than Neil, and Neil. Because he was in the Navy before he became an astronaut.

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>>154705732
>feminine wood
?
You must be joking right?

>>154705551
>>154705602
>>154705627
Pretty much, yes, but she falls under the "shoved in class containers" category without being an ancient undead wraith or something, and Moon Cell's war is still a Grail War of sorts.

My point was that the same can be done for Kuro or Shiki in wars that aren't based on the Fuyuki system.

>>154705842
I don't remember any sea theme other than that just being the stage people fought at. From what I remember, the conversation went something like "I've seen all these cool servants, even Armstrong!" or something like that.

>>154705683
>ACTUAL Heroic Spirits
He sure as hell is more impressive than Billy.

>>154705984
>He was talking about the 1900s rule in relation to Heroic Spirits
No he wasn't. He straight up said Servant candidates. You are lying on the internet.

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>>154704975
Tamamo!!

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>>154705962
>next time she's in rotation
anon I

>being a simofag, armstrongfag or ww2fag
Leave

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How Mashu sees Riyo's Gudako

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Choose /fgog/

>>154706304
>why not both
Medea though

>>154706158
Again, when someone mentions the 1900s rule, they're talking about Heroic Spirits. Taken literally or just an arbitrary notion, that's the only 1900s rule that's ever existed. Everybody knows there is no rule on a non-Heroic Spirit/irregular HS post-1900 because of EMIYA.

>>154706157
Billy is still a symbol and way more famous

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>>154706074
>he doesn't know

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>>154704975
>>154706180
Tamamo!

So glad she's getting so much love. She deserves it.

Guys, I just updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 10 and FGO is now giving me an error code 10, I can't start the game. I didn't jailbreak my phone and all my other apps are working fine. Did DW not update FGO to be compatible with iOS 10 or something?

>>154706405
Why can't she ever become a 4 star so that I can roll her? Tamacat doesn't count since she's a different tail

Technically, you can't even summon Chuck Yeager because he's still alive.

>>154706438
I heard the iOS update is problematic

>>154706438
>iCuck
Serves you right.

>>154706438
They warned to not update your OS due to it not being compatible. They also warned Android users since the update might not allow the game to work on some phones.

Does Liz count as a horned enemy for missions 41-43?

>>154706374
>he said Servants candidate but he MEANT Heroic Spirit because of this universal rule that means whenever anyone ever mentions this thing they have to be using this specific definition of it that happens to support my argument
The guy asked about Servants, was told 1900s doesn't apply to it, and that was it. You can rage about him using it incorrectly but that was how he was using it and he directly specified.

You are the only person pushing Heroic Spirits.

>>154706392
Irrelevant, we were talking about deeds, not fame. He's also more famous than ShoWho so fame literally doesn't matter.

>>154706438
I'm tired so long story short you're fucked
Smuganimegirl.jpg

>>154706559
What about CG Chuck Yeager?

>>154706621
Shumeme gets a pass because Nasu is a bajiquan nut.

>>154706617
On the contrary, you're the only one trying to push "HE MEANT SERVANTS!"

>>154706559
>Rin can't summon Emiya because Shirou is still alive

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Post Jeanne

>>154706736
>guy literally says servants
>n-no he meant heroic spirits
You are pathetic.

Pilots aren't real heroes.

Pirates aren't real heroes

>>154706617
You do realize everyone besides you equates Servants to Heroic Spirits in general conversation, right? The existence of some irregulars does not change the core fact that there most Servant are summoned Heroic Spirits. When mentioning a guy in WW2 not qualify, that would be in the connection to him not being a Heroic Spirit. Nobody is going to think of Pseudo-Servants like Illya and Shiki.

>>154706579
>>154706602
>>154706608
>>154706658
WTF. What have they been doing? The open beta has been out for a month and they still neglected to update it? All they do is sit on money and make the game worse with lag and stutter with each new update. They don't seem to care for any latest OS support, they don't seem to care about user feedback. Aren't you guys actually angry about these stuff?

>>154706935
No, I'm smart so I'm not angry.

>>154706258
>Sparkles everywhere
Eggplant truly is a dork at heart.

>>154706930
>You do realize everyone besides you equates Servants to Heroic Spirits in general conversation, right?
That isn't true at all, and is obvious from the responses the guy got. When someone says Servant, they ALWAYS mean "can be in a grail war". Which you do not have to be a Heroic Spirit to be. Most Servants being Heroic Spirits is utterly irrelevant.

Not to mention the second most famous and liked Servant is himself not a Heroic Spirit.

>>154706935
No, not really. A pepper up someone else's ass don't sting and The misfortune of others tastes like honey etc etc. Plus they fixed android problems already so just nope.

>>154706935
>>154707012

>>154706016
Dat Stheno. Too bad her NP doesn't do anything.

>>154706559
You could in the Strike Witches collab

>>154706621
Not for nasu

>>154707141
No, people responding to him just debated the idea that there is any hard 1900 rule in the first place due to the number of GO Servants whose main activity happens in the early 1900s.

>>154706935
I don't even play this game.

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>>154707138
She loves her Senpai

>>154706935
>Current Year
>People still buy Apple products

>>154707327
Is it too much to ask for a Mashu x futa Gudako doujin?

>>154706608
Has anyone here tested with Nougat on Nexus 6?

>>154707262
>No, people responding to him just debated the idea that there is any hard 1900 rule in the first place
He had like 10 responses and one (1) said that. The majority said there was no rule for Servants, which has been true since FSN, which introduced Servants. The first time someone mentioned Heroic Spirits was when BL got mad about the idea of post 1900 Servants despite them already being here.

The last thread is still up, everyone knows you are bullshitting.

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>>154704498
You're right, wrong picture

>>154707520
>The first time someone mentioned Heroic Spirits was when BL got mad about the idea of post 1900 Servants
They got mad for a good reason. Post 1900 servants is retarded and ruins the whole idea behind Fate. No, you can't have proper HS from post 1900.

>>154707520
He got two literal who responses
One strike witches response
One saying there is no rule, referring to the 1900s rule, referring to the statement by Rin
One going into the specifics of Heroic Spirits in the early 1900s
One saying it is a rough guideline, referring to the 1900s rule, referring to the statement by Rin
One going into the specifics of Heroic Spirits in the early 1900s
One retard going on and on about irregular Servants even though nobody else did

>>154707787
>Fate was ruined with FSN
Fate was a mistake.

>>154707787
>Post 1900 servants is retarded and ruins the whole idea behind Fate.
They existed in the very first Fate work, and your opinion does stop that.
>No, you can't have proper HS from post 1900.
Never the question.

Who gives a shit about what happened in BL.

Fuck off.

>>154707871
>>154707913
Emiya doesn't count, he's not a real HS.

https://exhentai.org/g/976049/8d48b8476e/

>>154708030
>Emiya doesn't count, he's not a real HS.
>>154707787 >Post 1900 servants is retarded
Was Emiya a Servant in FSN? Yes or no?

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>>154707787
>Post 1900 servants is retarded and ruins the whole idea behind Fate
There is nothing to ruin fate is shit to begin with.

>>154708093
Darkness should be denied the pleasures of sex.

>>154708119
>Was Emiya a Servant in FSN?
Not a proper one, no. He would never be summoned anywhere else so he doesn't count no matter how much you want it to.

>>154708192
this

>>154708119
He's not a Heroic Spirit in proper terms, so it doesn't matter. What matters is the idea of literal who World War 2 pilots getting in.

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>Couldn't roll Da Vinci during her rate up

I got Mordred and I'm extremely happy for that, but it hurts whenever I use Da Vinci as a support and its not mine.

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>Hitler Servant

Make this happen, Jap!

>>154708192
>Emiya wasn't a Servant in the 5th Holy Grail War
>Can go into spirit form, like a Servant
>Anchored to this world by a Master, like a Servant
>Summoned legitimately into the vacant Archer spot by the Grail, like a Servant
>Affected by Command Spells, like a Servant
>B-b-but he's not a Servant because he's not a PROPER Servant, guys!
kek

>>154708302
>Aryan
>hitler
>shit stats
hmmm

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We all need more Nero

>>154707840
>too bad the 1900s rule means you can't get this guy as a Servant
>people tell him there is no 1900s rule for Servants
>no one, not a single person, mentions Heroic Spirits
>this somehow means everyone did because you don't want to admit how hilariously wrong you are
Get this through your thick shitposting skull. When someone asks a question and specifies Servants, he means Servants. You being incredibly autistic and trying to force this idea that asking about Servants really means Heroic Spirits because they mentioned the 1900s, despite straight up saying Servants, and Servants and Heroic Spirits being too different things, and every on topic response telling him that Servants don't have anything to do with that rule, does not change the facts.

Edison's NP, which is sublimination of the technology of film destroying the concept of mystery is literally the reason why there are so few Servants post-1900.

It's not that there can't be heroes after the 1900s, but it's much harder to be capable of "heroic feats" if everyone can understand what you're doing

>>154708192
>He would never be summoned anywhere else
>literally has been summoned in other places multiple times

There is no proper or improper Servant, a Servant is anyone summoned in a class container.
>>154708245
>is he a Servant or not?
>m-muh heroic spirits
End yourself.

The point being made is obvious, heroic spirits are still active within 1900s, but they were born before that period. Rin only said none were born before then, not active.

>>154708415
This is also why Berserker Edison will be a threat to greater older heroes

>>154708382
Aren't you supposed to be in jail?

>>154708386
No, he meant Heroic Spirits. You don't seem to understand that any time someone mentions the concept of a 1900s rule that they are referring specifically to the statement from Rin about Heroic Spirits that spawned the idea of the rule in the first place. You keep ignoring that entirely. That was, is, and will always be the only 1900s rule that anyone has ever talked about. Also, not one other person has supported your idea, not a single one of the other responses, nobody.

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Who would you whale for in a Persona collab, /fgog/?

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You are tasked with making Stheno's NP not complete fucking garbage. What do you do?

Bear in mind, for the purpose of this exercise we are assuming no unprecedented moves from DW, so no changing the NP's card type nor adding damage to a non-offensive NP.

>>154708603
>guy asks about Servants
>people talk to him about Servants
>EVERYONE MEANS HEROIC SPIRITS BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO BE WRONG
You do not have to be talking about Heroic Spirits to mention the 1900s rule. You can argue that he was wrong in conflating that with Servants but that was mentioned both before and after he threw a tantrum, does not change the question he actually asked, and you actively ignored it anyway.
>Also, not one other person has supported your idea, not a single one of the other responses, nobody.
The idea that you can have Servants after 1900? The idea that every on topic response answered? Before you shat the thread up?

>>154708713
Jun and Katsuya

>>154708192
A Servant is simply a spirit crammed into a Servant container. Emiya was more of a proper Servant with proper Servant functionality than Arturia or Kojirou, regardless of how his soul ended up there.

>>154708820
Everybody else talked about heroes and heroes after 1900. Literally only you talked about other Servants like a retard,

>>154708713
Dangan Ronpa collab when?

>Dantes is re-added to the gacha
>4* Berserker Juzo
>5* Avenger Junko
>5* Assassin Mukuro
>5* Ruler Hopeman
>0* Ruler Hajime in FP gacha

>>154708772
Make it AoE, guaranteed defense down and NP gauge down. Charm/insta-kill can still be gender limited.

>>154706074
If it makes you feel better, Siegfried, moments before his death, mused that Astolfo's crying face reminded him of a lovely maiden's:

>Rider yelled at him with a mix of disbelief, grief and anger on his face. As he trembled and held back tears, Rider looked for all the world like a lovely maiden.

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>>154708574
What?

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>>154708713

>>154708925
Only one person mentioned heroes, and he also used it to describe Emiya so he was clearly talking about Servants. No one replied about Heroic Spirits. Everyone was talking about Servants, which is what the original question was directly asking about.

>>154709052
Nerofag got arrested.

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>>154708713
Maya.

>>154708713
Only if it is a Persona 5 collab so I can finally have my Nana servant.

>>154708713
Aigis and Naoto. I would think about whaling for Kanji, Elizabeth or Mitsuru too
Yes I'm a P3/4 babby

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>>154708713
My man Adachi

>>154708772
>NP interlude 1: Make it AoE
>NP interlude 2: Charm ignores genders
Basically make 4* Matahari

>>154709106
>Shame the Pre 1900s rule is a thing
>Heroes can be active into the 1900's, but they're born before that point so far, with the exception of Shirou
>Li Shuwen, Tesla, Mata Hari are active in 1900, but born in 1800's I think.
>I could see rules being made for Neil Armstrong or something.
This guy is clearly talking about Heroic Spirits.

>The 1900s rule was never official and was only ever a guideline at best.
This guy is clearly referring to the statement by Rin

Literally nobody besides you and your retarded logic talked about the general concept of Servants and the idea that he was talking about some conceptual barrier prevented anybody that popped out of a vagina post 1899 23:59 from being able to fit into a Servant container.

No. I read the news announcement. I also tend to check before updating OS.

>>154704191
My goddess.

My king.

So is Ilya confirmed garbage? There's so much emphasis on buster cards, of which she only has ONE outside of her NP, and her NP is weak as fuck on top of that.

>>154709437
She is trash but people, me included, will roll for her regardleess.

>>154709437
Yeah, she's the worst offensive Caster.

>>154709437
No, you're just shit.

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>>154708772
Guaranteed charm that ignores genders on the target. Defense down is applied to all enemies, including the charmed target.

I think the REAL challenge is making this fucker useful. I don't just mean his NP, I mean in general. Even Stheno's good for star gen and has a nice charisma, if a little gimmicky.

>>154709437
What's her meme list rating?

>>154709526
What a weird way to say Sanzang.

>>154709587
Shakespeare? He's already not bad for a cheap Buster support mook.

>>154708772
3-turn stun.

>>154709526
I mean, isn't there only Sanzou, Da Vinci, and Illya for offensive casters?

And she's definitely not worse than Da Vinci, and arguably better than Sanzaou.

Is Taneda dead already?

>>154709771
Waver

>>154709637
Sanzang actually outdamages her cause she can NP twice in a row with her skill.

>>154709340
>cuts out the Servant part of the question
ebin
>he's referring to Emiya, who isn't a Heroic Spirit, this means he's talking about Heroic Spirits
ebin
>Servants can't be post 1900
>that rule doesn't actually apply to anything
>that response actually means he's talking about Heroic Spirits and believes it's ironclad for them
ebin

Are you even attempting to make valid points or are you just posting whatever shit you can come up with. There is no way for you to twist the guy actively, clearly talking about Servants. There is no way for you to twist not a single reply mentioning Heroic Spirits. There is no way for you to twist their first mention being in a post that directly ignored the question at hand. There is no way for you to establish some universal rule that no one can ever misuse the phrase "1900s rule".

You've wasted more then enough of my time with your shitty bait and haven't brought up a valid point in, actually you've never brought up one. You've hit the point where you are actively editing posts to try and support your argument despite the post being in the literal last thread. Don't expect another (You).

>>154709781
No, she's just pregnant.

>>154708772
Keep it as it is because 95% of the people who play this game aren't gameplayautist and don't care about shit like how good a servant is and just collect/use who they like.

>>154709781
Soon

>>154709437
She's the worst single-target NP caster.
To be fair, her only competition is Sanzou, but unfortunately Sanzou is pretty fucking good by comparison because she at least has a skill that lets her chain NPs.

The worst part is, Ilya's biggest crux is her lack of Territory Creation. She has 3 arts cards, and yet she's the only caster who doesn't get the inherent 5~10% arts boost, which fucking SUCKS when you consider that casters inherently only do 90% damage anyway.

>>154709437
I thought her NP had the strongest base attack in the game or something?

>>154709594
10.0

No, seriously.

>>154709771
There is also Nursery Rhyme who in my experience works as well as any of them, better than Da Vinci even.

>>154709832
You just ignore all logic and supplant it with your own thinking. Must be the Jetfag on a break.

>>154709895
Bullshit. Where's the link to the memelist?

>>154709895
>I thought her NP had the strongest base attack in the game or something?

It doesn't, but the buffs make it far stronger than any other Caster's by a big margin. You can't spam it, but you don't need to because it finishes the fight.

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>>154709437
Illya's NP is the highest-damaging NP in the game in a buster chain. Her issue is that she's completely useless outside of it, she has 3 arts cards (and yet her NP gen is horrible), and you need to drop a thousand dollars to get that overcharge.

But you don't want her for gameplay anyways.

>>154709862
>give a servant a huge buster-up skill and an NP that boosts their buster damage even further
>give her one fucking buster card
>reduce her damage even further after her NP anyway, unless you waste your heal/guts to pass the 70% roll for debuff negation
Great talk, DW.

>>154709795
Waver's not for attacking.

>>154709795
Waver's not really an offensive caster. I'd call him more of a support than anything. He doesn't have a damage NP and sports 2 all servant skills and one ally target.

>>154709862
On the flip side though, Illya does have 2 seperate Buster boosts for her NP and NP per turn passive. Not as good as Sanzou, but I wouldn't call it awful.

>>154709832
The guy said heroes. Heroes are Heroic Spirits. He said EMIYA is an exception to the normal heroes due to his special circumstances. Try harder next time.

>Xuanzang is better because you can use her NP more often!
>ever not running an Arts team
>ever not using Waver
???

>>154710040
>thinks 10% attack down is a scary debuff instead of a minor annoyance

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>>154710028
>highest-damaging NP in the game in a buster chain.
Special snowflake says hi

>>154710028
I agree for the most part, but the Overcharge is a moot point. There's no valid reason to compare overcharge or take it into consideration considering most people will never get an overcharged 5*. It's only valid for welfare servants, because you should have NP 5 on them.

>>154710168
Yes, let's take three hours to finish what a team of Berserkers can finish in two minutes.

>>154710168
>illya's good because she only works in an art team
>y-yeah!

>>154710093
I think even in FSN they said there was one exception to the 1900 rule, saying that only one had been born in the last hundred years. Although I don't think they were talking about EMIYA at the time

>>154710168
Arts chains are a meme, anon.

>>154710093
Not him but the guy said Emiya was an exception for when he was born, not in being a hero.

Single-target Caster damage ranking:
>Illya (Burst)
>Sanzou
>Nursery Rhyme
>Illya (over time)
>Medea (over time)
>Cu Caster
>Medea (Burst)

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>>154709124
Well I don't know who that is since I never come into these threads, you can find me in /fgg/ though

>>154710317
Cu Caster isn't single target, anon.

>>154710232
you can still easily get 300% overcharge, just not 500%

>>154710265
>I think even in FSN they said there was one exception to the 1900 rule, saying that only one had been born in the last hundred years.
Pretty sure they didn't, and Rin wouldn't have any idea either way

>>154710381
Have you tried to give him stars

>>154710265
>saying that only one had been born in the last hundred years.
Li Shuwen? Mata Hari?

Also to the people complaining about Ilya's damage, keep in mind that she's a fucking CASTER. None of the casters are optimal damage dealers, they're used purely for support and shutting down assassins.

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>>154709771
>forgetting the first offensive caster in the game

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>>154710317
Sanzou outdamages Illya because she NP's twice in a row while supporting the party with 30 percent NP gain. Illya is garbage, she got Ridertoki's gimmick but its gimped because she cant gain NP for shit.

>>154710436
Casters are there to kill Soul Eaters

>>154709895
>>154710001
Here we go:
http://appmedia.jp/fategrandorder/96261

She's currently "?". Comments on her eval page speculate 7-8 range.

>>154710436
>they're used purely for support and shutting down assassins.
All these people bitching about Ilya's damage are going to feel real fucking stupid in a few months when King Hassan's kicking their shit in.

>>154710317
Rhyme is AoE, anon.

>>154710232
>considering most people will never get an overcharged 5*.

Chaining NPs is easy as fuck to get free 300%.
You can use debuff NP like Waver or Asterios to further get more damage for 1 shot NP.

>sanzang is shit

>>154710527
Burst is there to just mean 1-turn damage

I feel like if we look at overall damage output, Book should outdo her with Crits

>>154710639
>using meme Asterios

>>154710317
>Lime
>CasCu
>single target
Medea has higher attack then CasCu as well.

>>154710598
It's Orion all over again. The "NP GAIN IS SHIT!" when it's actually pretty average, the "NP IS SHIT!" when it's actually pretty useful.

Do people just hate lolis so much that they're blinded by their rage?

>>154710571
I don't get how she could be below Orion. She's essentially better in every way, bar Orion's super niche anti-male bonuses. The issue with that is most servants are gender bent to female anyway.

>>154710664
I hope we get a 5 star crit caster someday.

>>154710436
>Born within the last 100 years
>Mata Hari
> born 1876
>Li Shuwen
>born 1864

People seem to keep having problems with this concept. Its "Born" within the last hundred years, not simply being active within the last hundred years. Both Li and Mata are entirely within regulations for heroes.

I'll even go further with this shit

>Tesla
>Born 1856
>Edison
>Born 1847

Despite how these keep being mentioned repeatedly, none of them are outside of regulation. None of them are born within the last hundred years. They were only active within that period.

The only one probably born in the last hundred years is probably Neil Armstrong or some shit, since going to the Moon is pretty big.

>>154710767
>The issue with that is most servants are gender bent to female anyway.

This is pretty irrelevant though, since DW dictates what Servants get to be bosses and even if most Servants are female, they're not shy with putting in a lot of male bosses.

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>Sanzou is better!
>Ilya is better!
>gameplay meme
Sanzou is more fuckable but Ilya has an actual character, that's the difference between the two.

>>154710801
If Da Vinci and Tesla can make it onto the throne of heroes, then there's no reason Einstein wouldn't be able to get in. Neil Armstrong is also possible, as is Oppenheimer.

>>154710801
So if you were born right on the dot at 1900 you are disqualified from ever being a Heroic Spirit unless you make a contract with the world. That must suck for modern people.

>>154710904
>Sanzou is more fuckable
That is subjective

>>154710884
Every event ever has had more female bosses then male ones except Da Vinci, white day and Dantes, two of which were just one new quest a day.

>>154710904
>Hurr character doesn't have character because shit game hate them

She has an entire event about her character, you dummy.

Which 3 star should upgrade to 80-90? I have cups to spare anon so dont worry about that.

>>154710669
Robin,Asterios,Waver is easily one of the best combo in 1 shot boss fight.

>>154710904
don't be mad that people are calling illya out on being shitty

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>>154710907
>Japan
>The country that got nuked twice
>Aggrandizing the two of the people responsible for the nuke

>>154711036
>entire event
>GO WEST GO WEST GO WEST
>majority of it was other characters
Sanzou has the most paper thin big sis personality ever.

>>154710904
>cucked by Goku
>cucked by Shirou
>waifufag meme
No difference between the two, you're still cucked

>>154711072
Hassan of Serenity.

>>154710664
She could with a a crit brave chain, specially if you squeeze the NP there and do it twice or thrice when lucky.
Book needs a greater set up to work properly though.

>>154711072
KoGil

>>154711072
Darius.

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>>154710674
Crits do about as much damage as Rule Breaker

>>154711178
>>154711193
Will keep them in mind.

>>154711072
David, Cu or Roma if you have Ozzy.

>>154711072
Cu Chulainn and David are amazing for longevity.
Lu Bu and Euryale are good for NP memery

Bedivere, Billy, Ushiwakamaru, and Shota Gil are all solid all-rounder servants as well.

>>154711283
He can't generate stars on his own though and they are better used on other characters, so to set that up you would need a generator and then to bring in a sub-par user.

I see your point but it seems too unlikely to actually consider.

>>154711117
well they were sorry about it

does that qualify them for Avenger?

>>154711520
The point of Avengers is they aren't sorry about it

Avenger Einstein would be angry they only dropped two bombs

>>154710904
>Sanzou is more fuckable
No, Illya is far more fuckable than a hag.

anyone have a guide or something as to which missions you do for the kuro items? i've seen the pastebin that tells you what challenges, but not which missions have what enemies.

Why is this event's soundtrack so good?

>>154711019
I'm not going to count all the events, but a quick check of last year's events shows that it isn't true.

Dango event
- 9 male Servant bosses
- 2 female
- 1 D'Eon

Halloween event
- 27 male Servant bosses
- 23 female Servant bosses
- 1 d'Eon

Honnoji event
- 19 male Servant bosses
- 14 female Servant bosses

And even without that, if we look at London, America, Camelot and Onigashima those are also places where we fight more male bosses than females.

>>154711283
He doesn't have an star attraction skill, his crits are unlikely as fuck.

>>154711596
Either Cirno's Ilya event page, or the Quests tab of this spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cTs1903TNMjc6slqpL7mcA2Rb2zjby3hl6ZF7IxGlmA/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#

>>154710989
Wanst always the point that after 1900 isnt imposible to become a hs but is just really fucking hard thanks to how the modern world works? becoming a CG is the easy way but not the normal way.

Who do I pair with Bride and Medb for top ultimate harlot team? Tamamo or Bryn?

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>>154711668
>baneposting is banned on /tv/
What a time to be alive
>inb4 it's shopped

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>>154711773
based, ty anon.

>>154708772
Shove practically every debuff in the game on it, and have at least half of them apply regardless of gender.

>>154711816
Scat

>>154711578
Nah, Avengers are defined by hate, its not that they're bad people or that they're not sorry at all. Caligula is oddly one of the people that lays out how the class works for us. They are anti-heroes by nature, they're people who don't have love it seems. However they've still gotta be about hate. Even if its other people's hate that they represent in nature.

Their own hate - Dantes, Alcidies
Others hate - Joan Alter, Angya

I'd make the argument that Angya proves it isn't about whether they're sorry for it or not. Since Angya didn't do shit to begin with, yet he is still a representation of all the evils in the world and six billion curses.

>>154711816
Kuro.

>>154710232
>>154710414
Even 500% overcharge is possible if you use her with Edison.

>>154711739
>counting sub 50k hp farm Servants as bosses
You can one hit the vast majority of them without any boost at all. The only significant enemies in Dango where Altera and Orion, both female. Halloween had 6 female and 3 male bosses, Honnouji was closer but still had females outnumber males.

No one is going to consider 30k hp fodder a boss, Servant or not.

How much is it to buy quartz? Does itunes convert currency?

>>154710989
I wouldn't say its quite that hardline of a rule, we're taking very hard stances on it of course, but its still fairly open in a sense. We're all just interpreting it based on some vague statements. Its just that its almost impossible for several reasons why new heroes are hard to make.

The reasons why its hard are partially laid out in Edison's NP. If the world can't have mystery, then heroes are pretty hard to create. Everyone is cynical now, there's no magic to the world, there's no more heroes. Used to be that you had a guy just choke a lion to death, and bam, they're telling his story for thousands of years and adding more shit to it as they go. These days someone could save the world, and its like who gives a crap, he's probably done some evil shit in his life, also its all computer graphics. He's not idealized at all, he's not made a legend.

>>154710801
Because "born" is a retarded metric to measure by. You aren't born a hero, you do heroic deeds in life.

>>154711956
I was commenting that Einstein being sad he created nukes is the exact opposite from being an Avenger, not trying to set up exact specific guidelines.

And none of the Avengers are sorry for their deeds regardless.

>>154712139
50k HP seems like very little now but it definitely wasn't last November unless you were a whale that had already rolled and leveled a good set of golds.

>>154712165
Depends on which package you buy, but for me it was about $26 for the 36-quartz pack a few weeks ago. Google Play converts currency for gift cards, but I'm not sure about iTunes.

>>154712317
Angya - nothing to feel sorry about
Heracles - mindfucked to no longer feel sorry, but before he was mindfucked he'd rather die as a mad beast than become the dark shit he was becoming.
Joan Alter - Nothing really to feel sorry about, aside from attacking france with thousands of dragons, but this shit happens
Dantes - Didn't he kind of regret it at the end of the book? Not all the way, but he realized this was kind of fucked up and didn't go all the way into darkness. As Avenger though he's summoned when he's still very much in the midst of his darkness, since Haydee isn't present.

>>154712404
>November
Yes it was. Shit, even by Dango it wasn't much, if you started on launch by Dango you had two months to get a few characters up to first or second ascension and with class advantage that's all you need.

I remember Dango, people were beating the 250k hp Orion with unleveled teams and a support.

What about the miracle behind the legend? to be a HS you have to do a feat that defies logic, gambled against fate and have won.
In that sense doing something like that in modern times would make gamblers and crazy people jumping out of planes closer to become an heroic spirit than a historic figure. Still they would lack on fame and mistery.

>>154712670
So none of the Avengers are sorry then? I'm not seeing your point. Even the ones who should feel sorry don't, because they are Avengers.

NP gain chart with Quick and extra attack is done.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gRh9sPkKuBLy0fvdA6MldIscX4ceHQH3XYqBLL6fqQk/edit?usp=sharing

>>154712064
It's not about boosting someone to that percentage. It's whether or not you can whale hard enough to get that many copies of a 5*.

>>154712885
>to be a HS you have to do a feat that defies logic, gambled against fate and have won
That's an example of background lore that doesn't apply in practice.
>Boudica
>Defied logic
>Gambled against fate and won
Yeah right

>>154712916
You only need one copy. And most Servants don't even gain that much from overcharge. Ilya is one of a handful of exceptions.

>>154712908
>So none of the Avengers are sorry then? I'm not seeing your point.

That whether they're sorry has nothing to do with it, that's a necessary qualification for the class that you created yourself. It has nothing to do with whether they feel sorry or not, if even one of them proves that this isn't a thing then that should be enough.

If you say statements that you only think like this, rather than it being an actually stated qualification, then the waters start getting muddy.

>>154713006
yeah, mostly why she has a really shitty np.
Sometimes winning against fate still counts if you die in the process tho.

>>154713126
I wasn't saying the only qualification to be an Avenger was not be sorry for some bad deed, I said that Avengers aren't sorry for their deeds, which isn't their only trait but it's true.

I dont see why you are being so autistic about this.

>>154712670
>Didn't he kind of regret it at the end of the book?
Nope, he thought it was God's will at the end of the day and just accepted the past to move on into his bright future with best girl.

>As Avenger though he's summoned when he's still very much in the midst of his darkness, since Haydee isn't present.
Partially, he pretty much admits he is Edmond Dantes until the end but he is playing the role granted upon him out of his own will while still understanding everything he learned through the book. He is acting chuuni because he likes it basically.

>>154712885
I wouldn't say so at least; a hero has to be the one and only, or someone who does something impossible. If you rolled a dice and it landed on number 11,000, then it would be impossible. However a skydiver and gambler are just playing the odds. The odds are entirely there from the start, rather than being them overcoming reality.

If a skydiver was the one and only, someone who could do something no one else does, or do it in a slightly different way than everyone else does in a way that should be impossible, then maybe.

Like a skydiver that does it without a parachute, yet he lands without any injuries each time.

>>154713208
Boudica didn't win against fate by any metric. Her entire clan was put to the death and Rome continued their reign in Britain. She was completely forgotten about until she was brought back during the renaissance as a symbol, and even then historians all agree she was terrible leader to the point of it being unbelievable.

The only trait that's consistent amongst everyone is that they are notable (or semi-notable) figures.
>>154713380
>a hero has to be the one and only, or someone who does something impossible
Even that isn't true in practice.

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still no apk huh?

And here i am enjoying Witcher 3, DOOM (newly installed), How to Survive 2 and pic related.

Guess my APK Checking days are over.

>>154710028
>highest damaging NP in a buster chain

Sluts take a look at her and laugh

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>>154713553
It feels good to be playing actual games again.

http://www.xda-developers.com/latest-update-to-pokemon-go-blocks-rooted-devices-from-entering-the-game/

Would using Magisk help prevent error 60 for FGO?

>>154714038
No. Perfare has made DW patch it up real tight

>>154714008
>lememe game
>real

wake me up

>going into the update with only 68/100 quests
Will I make it?

>>154714276
Yeah, you have a lot of time

Emus extint now? tiny screens hell.

>>154714276
There are only 75 missions available pre-update so you're not even really behind.

>>154714092
>2) How do root bypass work? Safety Net cannot detect root if the su binary is not available under PATH. So I just created an API to hide root from PATH. Most root apps cannot gain root when it's hidden, but root access is still possible if you know actually how things work.

I swear to god if we don't get a grail I'm gonna freak. We should be getting two an event even.

Account sellers (chinese) ruined the game for emufags and now the hacker (chinese) is stuck fixing their mess.

China - Destroy and then Save and pretend you never destroyed.

>>154714776
What else could they fight to get a grail?

>>154714860
>account sellers ruined the game
Huh?

>>154714008
Well, i'd be playing Nepnep, if it werent for Witcher 3.

>>154714936
We haven't had an Ilya boss fight yet.

>>154714982
They originally banned emulators to stop account sellers, they said so in an interview. They also up the security each time because the cracked apk is used by account sellers.

>>154714982
Cheating wasn't a big deal until raids came out, even though you couldn't actually cheat the raids.

>>154714550
Then do it anon. Prove (You) wrong

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>>154714936
Magical girl Sita.

>>154715042
>>154715093
We didn't have Emus kill until after the first raid though

>>154714982
they used emulators to Get Servants faster then sell them

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>Maintenance hits just before I use an apple
Dodged the bullet there.

>>154715265
Are you me? I was about to use one too.

>>154715042
There wouldn't be much account sellers if people could buy a given servant instead of everything being 100% lottery.

It should show them that there is a strong demand in something completely absent from their business model.

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I hope Jeanne Alter remains the best spot to farm lions after the maint

>>154715130
Yes, they saw banning chinese and their other measures didn't work

>>154715126
That's not Sita you imbecile.

>>154715265
>tfw I timed myself to be able to finish all the weekly Mission quest today and be out of AP when maintenance started

Glad to be done with that shit.

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>>154715265
>full AP

>>154715130
The blanket banned the Chinese before the first raid.

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>>154715371
Nah, she's Sita to me.

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Medusa is a cutie I wanna snuggle with her

>>154715490
HF part 1 when ?

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>people spending all of their AP instead of syncing it with the maintenance end time

Just rolled the Miyu CE after a super success a few minutes ago, what is it good on?

Would that, Twice, or max ascended meidos be better on Vanilla Jeanne?

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Remember to massage your Kohai after a hard day of battling. She deserves it.

>google imags Excalibur
>second image is Saber's Caliburn

>>154714550
You need at least stock Marshmallow to allow for Magisk to work. Lollipop user are SOL here

>>154715594
>not max foued

Game is down now?
Am I being forced to do HW now?

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>all my quartz is gone
>no more servant interludes left for me to do
This is suffering

How big is the file size for this game?

>>154716362
>rolling in a bait gacha

I must say the "private cracked apk" meme was pretty amazing. People bought into it out of desperation but still.

>>154716395
a massive whole 52mb

>>154716395
Around 2gb if you download all the assets. If not then like 300mb after the initial download but it'll go up every time you see a new Servant, use a new NP and enter a new stage.

puffy http://i.imgur.com/5SY2EQK.jpg

>>154715675
>maintenance end time

>>154715894
why is shielder so lewd?

>>154716138
Im trying my best anon

>>154715351
Does that five dust chest drop repeatedly?

>>154716494
>thinks it's just a meme

>>154716957
Yes

>>154716624
>posting a link to imgur on an image board
sasuga scatfags

>>154717126
I've gotten banned for less in the past

>>154716423
>rolling for a character I like
>bait
???

>>154717126
Here, we see another instance of reddit trying too hard to fit in.

when will the maintenance be done in American time?

>>154715675
>he hasn't been burned before by doing this because of extended maintenace

>>154717209
2 hours.

>>154716494
its not a meme

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>could not roll Illya but got her on a ten roll on my alt
>decide to keep going with some remaining tickets left on main account and end up with this.

First time where the rate up was truly real for me. After the second Helena whenever I saw gold sparkles I knew it was her. I wonder if she is stronger than NP1 Sanzou.

>>154717263
okay time to Rewatch UBW

>>154717428
all that best girl