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Patch 4.2 is live. RIP Blackbeard
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-GB/updates/skullrain/reinforcements.aspx

>Season 3 Operation Skull Rain info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqsL4QpKXeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAwgzzN6RfQ
https://blog.ubi.com/rainbow-six-siege-operation-skull-rain-recruits-brazils-bope-operators/

>Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/R6GO

>Teamspeak for /vg/ operations
OperatorOperations.teamspeak.host
The password is: Operations

>/r6g/ Drawfriend Gallery
https://imgur.com/a/rVmZG

>Official news
https://blog.ubi.com/rainbow-six-siege-operation-skull-rain-recruits-brazils-bope-operators/
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/news/index.aspx
http://blog.ubi.com/rainbow-six-siege-post-launch-maps-operators-modes/

>Developer AMA Recap
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1349361-Developer-AMA-Recap

>Maps and drawing tools for all available gamemodes
http://www.r6maps.com/
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/whiteboard/landing.aspx

>How sound propagation works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI4YfurxVZU

>Weapons and Armor damage comparisons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fr6MsLNfjDlPESlHGUQxoRiR3yChpewKQAlsOHXG5A8/htmlview?usp=sharing&pref=2&pli=1&sle=true

>Known Issues:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1332624-Known-Issues

>Basics of CQB Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/ECbQGdVk

>Steam group player list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nB6S5xtZFuAlnX24VG6IVvOYnI18oOlV2W0SPM3OjaE/edit?pli=1#gid=375665432

>Console group
PS4: Add dazint8 or Omegaplaya and join the /r6g/ community that way
Xbone: Add IMadSpykeI (the 'I' are capital 'i's)

>All the Classic Rainbow 6 games running on the latest engine, compatible with current windows, all maps, all modes.
(MEGA link provided by anon)
https://mega.nz/#!P99z0CbQ!sF-1sVRgBKNkbEVL8NrnuLtpP3oK1aJHNzX65FpyfeA
(From site)
http://www.legendsworld.net/shooter/game/11094

>WIP /r6g/ guide for crosshair overlays, tactics etc
http://hnng.moe/7Ik

Last thread: >>154562691
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>>154658341
It may be edgy as fuck but I really like BB's emblem.
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What does IQ and Caviars butts smell like?
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>>154658341
YA BLEW IT
I was making fixes to the OP. Goddammit I told you to hold yer horses ;_;
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>>154657886

Make it happen glorious artists.
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Repostin
>>154658075
>Thatcher, Twitch, Glaz, and Thermite gets claymores
>4 claymores spread across the entire map
The game's basically minesweeper for defenders at this point.
Would've been better if there was an attacker op with 3 claymores instead.
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Has Mute's MP5K damage actually buffed or is there a visual misrepresentation in-game? It's lower than it was before.
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>>154658623
>Caviera players still on suicide watch
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>>154658623
>literally just watch where you're walking

it's not that hard
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>>154658623
it's a deterrent for roamers man it forces them to slow down and think instead of just belting it around the map
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How do I get good with Bandit? I usually st two shock wires by two windows and keep one for the trick. Only problem is, how do I make the trick easier? The sound is so faint, and my audio settings are tuned just for the trick.
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>>154658760
They have to peek inside their own rooms if they lose the objective.
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>>154658889
You play as Mute instead, and just fight quanity against Thatcher.
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>>154658889
You let Mute hide his Jammers in your barbwire.

Its extra sneaky and the attackers will never see it.
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>>154658623
I swear this shit is gonna destroy defenders in Favelas or plane.

>>154658760
Nah, you can seal off an entire door spot if you put it way back from the corner making it hard to reach for defenders.
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>let GF play Siege
>she's terrible of course
>somehow gets Valk down on the bedroom stairs in Oregon while she was behind an armor shield
>empty pump, she keeps missing her one shot reload
>dies without confirming easiest kill in the book.

She rage quit so fucking hard.
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>>154658341
ripip blackbeard
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>>154658763
Also a deterrent for defenders actually in the objective room trapping them in one tiny room.
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>>154659590

What the fuck happened to Seagal man.
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>>154659303
>she's terrible of course
Why are you being so sexist?
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>>154659303
You should let her play through the tutorials and situations on her own before playing online. It's common sense, specially if she doesn't play FPS often.
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>>154659691

>that caveira
>consoles
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>>154659836
She's slowly progressing through the situations since release. She just wanted to get into the meat.
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>>154659691
>Average Caveira player.webm
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>>154659983

I'd get into her meat
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>>154659691
>charlie kelly playes seige.webm
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>>154659691
>Caveira just comes out of nowhere
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>>154659303
I once tried to get my father to try MGS4 years ago and he couldn't grasp the basic camera controls and just spun in circles.
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This update is amazing.
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>>154660932
What the fuck, I fixed the aspect ratio and it looked nothing like this for me. Eh whatever, too lazy to fix right now. Already had to butcher it to hell to fit filesize anyways.
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Best places in theory for claymores? Obviously the objective room once you take it or side doors to said objective room so you only have to worry about 1 direction.

I was thinking instantly the roof doors on Kanal, Cav/Jager/Valk always peek out of there. Just claymore the side the objective isn't at.
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>>154661098
Yeah, if you get in objective and can get the door locked with a claymore you're golden.

Last webm for now, I'll fix these later when I wake up if anyone even cares.
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>>154660932

>"Fookin' Lazer Sights" said Thatcher as he deployed his laser sensor explosives.
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Why are these people so rampant to defend old Blackbeard on the Steam forums?
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>>154661263
>ONE BIG FOOKIN LASER SIGHT COMIN RIGHT UP
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Anybody here tested impact grenades with shields yet?
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>>154660932
Do people not realize you can move while downed?
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so now that offensive operators have lethal static defensive items, will defensive operators start getting shields?
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Lol bb got his mk buffed in this patch. Go put a muzzle break in it and fire, it's recoil is amazing.
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>>154661708
Welcome to an hour and a half ago.
Muzzle Brake is fucking BROKEN.
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>>154661413
DESU I think this nerf is a little extreme, and the two shields idea was completely retarded.

"OH WHOOPS, THAT BULLETPROOF GLASS SHIELD BROKE, LET ME GRAB MY OTHER ONE RIGHT HERE"

800 HP on the shield was a little OP, but something more like, 300-500 on one single shield with no replacements would be more accurate.

Sincerely Gold Rank 3 seasons in a row.
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:^)
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>>154662024

It's fine now, it'll still save you from several headshots
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>>154662252
heavy barrel when?
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>>154662253
Yeah, I'm still ducking everyone up in windows, especially now that we have the muzzle break.

That guy needs to git gud
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I just got killed almost exactly like in that claymore webm

>tfw not even mad
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>>154661591
2 direct hits to the shield did 0 DMG but did do the fuzzy "supression" vision to our deployed monty
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GUYS GUYS

MUZZLE BREAK IS AMAZING AS FUCK ON PISTOLS
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For you, drawfriends
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>>154659039
>>154659054
So the bandit trick is pretty much obsolete?
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>>154662857
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Was Glaz added to this game for the reason to say they have a sniper?
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>>154663015
How about just answering the question, instead of posting your cartoon whore's face.
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>>154662857
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>>154662359
Now?
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>>154663121

Also because they thought it would be a fun gimmick to have a gun which can penetrate several walls.
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Havent played yet, but any word on the damage inflicted by impact grenades?
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>>154663121
They wanted a sniper but didn't design maps to include one except Plane

Glaz needs to be able to shoot through Reinforced walls even if it halves his damage.
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>>154662857
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So Glaz is the next to get buffed right?
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>>154663525
>give glaz impact grenades

Buff complete, now he can make his own holes to peek through

There's no buff needed, he just has no maps that suit him beyond Favela
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>>154663525
I think a Spetnaz update. Kapkan, Glaz, Chanka and maybe Fuze. Fuze should get the flashbang shit, but not both. So you would choose it in the deployment
>>154663589
Glaz needs more ammo too
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>>154661952
Protip, big muzzle brakes like the one in game almost entirely eliminate recoil in standard rifle calibers, it's just realistic.
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>>154663015
EPIC post
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>>154663373
I can give you a rough estimate of 40dmg direct
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>>154663306
On the 11?
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>>154663015
>>154663184
>>154663430
(You)
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>>154663140
>>154663759
>>154663935
>asking a stupid question
>surprised when you get stupid answers
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>>154663525
Nope, shields are next.
pls
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>>154663642
What does Kap need? He's pretty good right now.
Operators that really need a buff or rework
>Bandit
>Tachanka
>Castle
>Shields
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>>154663642
>Fuze gets two types of cluster charges, one type is explosive, the other type are flashbangs

Make it happen.
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>>154664163
Castle with Impact grenades and UMP+Heavy Barrel is pretty viable tho
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>>154664163
What's wrong with Bandit?
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>>154663589

A little disappointed that they removed his breaching charges.

I rather they reduce the fall-off damage on the OTs to 75 past 16m

>>154663642

Gadget wise, Kapkan is perfect. He only needs to be at least 2S/2A.

Glaz needs a fall-off damage rework.

Give Chanka BB's old prototype shield.

Fuze being able to pick between a lethal or non-lethal charge would be cool.

>>154664108

Shields next would be cool as well. They could do Glaz, Shields and someone else seeing how they did reworks for 3 Operators this time around.
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>>154664202
He should get that, lets him be picked in Hostage without risk of RNG bounces.
>>154664163
3 speed 1 armor or 2-2. He doesn't get to run around much for traps, and honestly I'd like there to be more variation on the height you can do. I fucking saw my teammate vault over the laser like what the fuck. Just make the trap go where you are looking at. Not a specific height low or high
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Any idea if a single impact grenade (IG for short) can take down a castle barricade?
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>>154664329

>Tachkanka a shield

FUCK OFF
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>>154663656
Aren't muzzle breaks generally loud as hell
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>>154664163
Castle walls need to hit the ground so drones can't go through, and MAYBE let Castle kick them down at people putting gadgets on them.

Tachanka just doesn't fit the game at all. Peeker's advantage aside, stationary shit like that is a disaster. The best you could do is let him hipfire it

>>154664292
Aside from his trick his gadget is too visible. I'd like to see him put his shock wire down, but then you have to drag the cables to the thing. So you could barb, shockwire on the other side of the wall, and connect them via the wire. So its not super fucking obvious.
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>>154664613

Either that or make the LMG detachable so he can walk around with it.
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It is just me or Buck's DMR + muzzle break has almost no recoil at all?
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>>154664849
Any DMR/semi-auto rifle has no recoil with muzzle break.
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>>154664251
Not his gadget though.

>>154664059 I asked because when I wanted tips for Bandit trick, all I got was "let mute worry about it"
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so is there some new mouse acceleration or some shit? aiming feels like shit for me right now
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Kinda wish I had that image of a Lv10 Glaz VS a Lv120 Glaz.
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>removed thermites breach charges

Explain this.
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>>154664976
nope
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i thought u get ranked at 10 matches and stats got reset
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>>154665203
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>>154665271
His charges are so big that he doesn't waste his time with small holes.
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If Glaz could shoot through Monty's Extended Shield glass. Glaz, Ash and Monty would best friends for life.
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>trying to play ranked
>currently gold 2
>throughout the course of the week, in 8 (eight) different games, ALWAYS face against plat full stacks
>get shit on constantly

how the FUCK does this matchmaking even work?
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>>154665383

Thanks friend !
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>>154665571
It doesn't
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protip: blackbeards shield can break from friendly fire
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>>154665641
No problem, I keep a dedicated folder for Siege fanart.
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So did they fix Alt f4 for caviera? I just tried it and now I'm banned
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>>154665403
>>154665271

can someone Thermite-ify this?
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>>154665969
banned for what?
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>>154665969
You will submit.
You know you want it
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>>154666776
for abandoning match
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>>154666890
can't take my eyes off her
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Anyone tried muzzlebreak on Buck's c8?

Any difference between it with the comp?
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should I be putting heavy barrel on my smg-11?

everyone else is doing it"
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>>154667107
Only a little bit of testing but I like it. I never fired it for more than a short burst anyway so it makes it much more accurate overall for me

>>154667210
haven't tried it myself but wouldn't increased recoil be bad for the pocket sniper? you want just 1 of your billion bullets to get the headshot
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>>154663814
Yeah you have the extended barrel (heavy barrel) on the mac-11
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>giving twitch the muzzle break on FAMAS
>buffing one of the best guns in the game
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bye /r6g/ see you guys in february
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are shields immune to impact nade damage?
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>>154668439

if it hits the shield from the front, yes
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>>154668560
shit I was hoping it'd make em flinch like with melee. Probably better if it doesn't though.

Also wondering, can they break BB's shield in one hit?
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>>154668714
>doesn't do 100 damage to anybody
>wants it to do 150 to black beard

c'mon man
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>>154668842
Now now, I'm not talking raw damage, I was just thinking a nade made for breaking shit could be good at breaking BB's destructible shield. Like a shield HP loophole or some shit.
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Is curbing roamers impossible? I mean the cats out the bag, you cant really keep everyone in the same room or area, that shit only worked on release but theres really no way of stopping people moving around the map without completely fucking the game up.
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>>154668439
Pretty sure the grenades are mostly supposed to be used for making holes in walls. Right?
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>>154669298
>roamers are the new meta
>still comes down to the last two defenders in the room vs attacking squad 90% of the time.
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>>154668439
i guess you have to throw the nades behind them or at their feet
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>Somehow pull out a 3k because the dudes were coming at me one by one and somehow had worse aim than me
>Doc comes by to heal me
>Run into last attacker alive 5 seconds later
>Only manage to survive the last bad aim firefight because Doc gave me that heal
I like new Doc
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>>154669785
>hide in planters on Chalet
>tell my team I'm in my natural habitat
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>>154669298
Claymores are already curbing them.
>Take objective
>claymore entrances/bomb
>they can't run in without dying
Works best on maps like house in garage where players are tempted to jump out a window and flank from behind. It encourages them to at least stay near the objective instead of dicking around for 3 minutes before do an "epic" clutch.
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>>154669315
yep they barely do any damage 53dmg directly on twitches head you are better of just using it as a killhole tool
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so are new doc players cunts that only heal themselves or are they real niggas that help the team?
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>>154669968
Yeah if you take the objective claymores fucking demolish roamers.
>>154669376
People have played against roamers enough to not fall for most of the peeks. I imagine with impact nades you could do some crazy shit on Favela.
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I'm getting these 10+ second freezes at the beginning of the match again.

Is this a known issue or just me?
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Maybe it's because I haven't been playing in a couple of days, but are door barricades shorter now? The gap on the bottom seems much larger.
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>>154664671
That's why I'll destroy a barricade, place the wire, rebuild the cade, and then place the battery. Not fool proof of course but it helps a little I guess.
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> my patch download has been at 0% and has been dowloading at 0b/s for the past 2 hours.
i swear i never have problems like this on steam. fucking uplay.
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>>154670219
Based on personal experience they think they constantly overheal other players so they feel more confident peeking. Their good intentions usually go wasted because how fast direct firefights ends either with a headshot or someone peeking and then running off somewhere else.
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>Try to put revive gun away
>Accidentally inject myself
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Still kickig ass with BB even nerfed, muzzle break a best
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>take away thermites grenades
>now take away his breaching charges
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>>154670919
at least they're not wasting all of them on themselves, I guess it'll take a bit for doc players to know when to use them
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nevar forget
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>>154667210
I've been trying it in ranked but i can't say if it's better or worse just yet.
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muzzle break on EVERYTHING
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>>154664251
less people carrying breaches in the game now, plus claymores as an option are an indirect castle buff
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>>154671073
>>154671259
Muzzle break on everything, except when you can heavy barrel.
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>>154671210
To be fair, Mouse2 to Forward is some serious oldschool shit.
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>>154671259
what is muzzle break?
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>>154671259
>break
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>>154664671
What I think would be nice is if Tachanka's turret was remote controlled along with having it being mountable. There could be a camera on the top of it that all players can look through but only he can use to shoot, and when the camera is destroyed it can only be used manually. It can be a double whammy and sorta replace Valk's 4th camera along with not making the turret completely useless.
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>>154671367
know how the first shot is 100% accurate everytime? Now you get 2 shots. In practice, you should never have been going rock and roll emptying mags anyway so this is a big buff to accuracy
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>>154671505
Ooohhhhh
Ohohohohoohoo
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>>154671476
I've seen this suggested before, and I like it. Make it fire in a certain arc though, like 70 degrees. But then there would be no point in using it yourself because you could let it spray an area and make noise to cover your own movement on the flank.
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>>154671476
>Comrade, we have something to discuss with you. It is current year, your machine gun is being of literal museum piece. We have modern technologies, here, you can fire the gun from your phone, is an app for this. You simply sign in with this account....make sure it is on the right network. Have you verified you email address? Yes, I will ask them about the bayonet...
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>>154666213
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>>154671763
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>>154671763
thank you drawpai
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>can no longer have breaching charges on thermite
>can no longer flash bang rush someone as Thatcher
>buffing smoke

What the hell Ubisoft

Like if you want people to use claymores then let them pick between 3 gadgets don't fucking take my shit.
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Siege has changed more in under a year than some games entire lifetime, who knows when it will settle.
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>>154672024
>eventually they say fuck it and give Glaz a goddamn thermal x ray scope
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How good are DMRs in this patch?
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>>154672103
>implying they wont give him a 50.
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>>154672114
With Muzzle Brake there is basically no recoil
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>>154671763
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How good is the Muzzle break? What guns should I put it on?
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HOL UP, do recruits get the new gadgets also?
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>>154672257
prolly
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>muzzle break on MPX
>muzzle break on any DMR
>no longer have to waste nitro cells to blow holes in a wall and instead a rook can just do it
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>Ubi devs say they don't want a universal best attachment and that they want more variety
>Makes a universal best attachment anyway
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>>154672448
I'm sure it will be nerfed in about 3 months
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CAMRS or C8-SFW? I know the CAMRS got recently buffed, but is it better?
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IQ's 552 is actually worth using now
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>>154672543
the m4 also got a muzzle break, keep taking it, DMRs are for funsies, not serious play
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I wish there was a gun range to test our shit out right now

Like all they have to do is change the SAS kill house a little bit
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>>154672448
Its universal for pistols and high-damage weapons, but most other guns with full auto would benefit more from the flash hider imo, better to have a tiny bit of spread to help ensure headshots if the first shot is off the mark by a little.
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>>154672823
isn't there literally a firing range the hereford base or whatever it's called? just throw a ammo pile there that they have in terrorist hunt modes and let people shoot the targets.
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>>154672954
>not knowing Rainbow's first base

I want vegasfags to leave
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So is there going to be a season 2 DLC?
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>>154672228
Literally everything that it can be equipped on, especially pistols on IQ and shield users. Heavy Barrel vs Muzzle depends on the gun, not many get both and heavy barrel is only super good for peeking or low damage weapons with already low recoil so they can keep their damage at long range.
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>>154673010
>season 2

we're in Season 3 (beta)
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>>154672586
I can't tell yet, I've tried it like 3 matches now but I don't know how I feel about it.

Same for R4-C vs G36C. New gadgets, gun touched up, not sure if worth using.
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>muzzle break on the p90

YOU FOOLS
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Ubisoft, why doesn't my SMG-11 have a muzzle break?

Wtf.
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>>154673170
I meant a second season pass for next year.
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>>154673256
Shit is already too good. Hell they have the heavy barrel and the recoil isn't bad so you get full damage sniper now.
>>154673245
P90 is legit good now because of the brake
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>>154673256
If anything the pocket sniper's recoil helps it
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>>154673363
>buying season pass cancer

it's also a terrible deal, you're literally paying real money for things you can get for free
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>>154673010
>>154673363
Unless they change the business model, season pass is not gonna be worth it for anyone except new players.
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Is there even a point in having the flash hider now?
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>>154673452
>>154673690
This, its fucking shit. I guess based on the survey they are thinking of full body customization so the season pass would probably have some decent looking stuff but otherwise its pointless.
>>154673903
Nope. Muzzle Brake is better than everything but the heavy/extended barrel.
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>>154673903
2 shots on target mean jack if the first hits the head, so why not have a bit of recoil in case the first is off mark?
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>play frost 9mm with heavy barrel
>1v1
>dumbass memebeard peeking
>probably unaware of new patch
>probably just a shitter because casual
>go full auto on his shield/head
>it breaks
>insta headshot
>mfw

WEW
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>>154673365
>not long barrel
The recoil nerf already makes the P90's first 3 shots almost pinpoint.
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>>154673903
To hide your bullet trail or suppression arrow? Idk it seems obsolete.
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>>154673452
Meh, warframe works the same. However, there's people that use actual money on it
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>>154674159
I think it depends on how you play them, I don't leave the objective room as Rook most of the time because everyone wants to be an elite roamer pro.
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>>154672823
This. We need a sandbox mode. Let us switch operators, attack/defend role, weapons, attachments, and give us unlimited ammo/ammo boxes. Going offline and doing a custom match to test shit out isn't ideal.
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>>154664656
Ear shattering, it's common courtesy to remove muzzle breaks on public ranges because even with ear protection it can still get to you.
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>>154674328
You dont have to go offline to do customs.
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I don't know why but I just love that everyone mag dumps when the round is over. Without fail it will always occur.
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>>154674328
>>154672823
I just load up THunt Classic lone wolf and play against aimbotting AI. Just to test reflexes and general recoil when needing to spray on multiple people
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>>154665203
>Rushing the last OP as defender.
>Rushing a Glaz.
They deserved more than a draw for that. I feel bad for the Jager.
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>>154674668
I know, but if you go offline and make customs, you can test out all operators, including the DLC ones, and all weapons and their attachments.
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Can you use a pistol while downed now because i just saw a kapkan shooting one off
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>playing Doc
>Look a t friend playing Jaeger
>"YOU'RE POWERED UP, GET IN THERE"
Doc is now literally Ana from MemeWatch
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>>154675445
No. read the patch notes friendo, there's a link to them right on the damn main menu
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>>154674817
celebration is important for morale
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Is there any reason not to put on a barrel?
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>>154675445
Probably shit netcode. Post a webm of it happening
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>>154675653
I prefer a cardboard box myself, it's more traditional and comfy
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>>154675820
alright, that's enough kids
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They nerfed Valk into Oblivion, the Gadget is still fine, but the MPX is literally fucked. Also, I think they actually BUFFED Glaz, they increased his damage to 152, or was it always 152?
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>>154675653
You're poor.
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>>154675653
Most pistols get a muzzle brake option now and with no downsides like the silencer I'd say no.
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>>154675491
If only an HP boost gave the same rush to players as a nanoboost, that feeling of "OH SHIT THEY'RE RELYING ON ME I CANT WASTE THIS", could be fun to boost shitters and watch them suddenly rambo.
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>>154671162
but you got a neat anti flanker claymore
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>Jager's gun was buffed from 700 Fire rate to 740, Mobility increased to 50

I AM BECOME DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS
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>>154674817
I miss the times in the beta where you were able to shoot teammates without losing point or anything when the round was over so we always had a little deathmatch after. Don't understand why ubi took that out.
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>>154676307
Because its unfair you literal retard
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>>154676354
What's unfair? It's fun, much more fun than "mag dumping in the air" or T bagging your enemies.
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>>154674048
>last one alive blackbeard
>i know where he is
>drug myself up with doc
>go ham with the p90 on his ass
>he just takes it and dies
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>>154675252
I never get this to work. Either way I own all operators. Do you launch the game then go offline? Or offline first then launch the game? I tried disabling my internet and it could not launch my game. If it helps i have the steam version.
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>>154676354
Why the fuck is it unfair? Its at the end of a round, so theres no consequence. Round's restarting anyway, why not have a tdm among friends for a few seconds?
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They aren't going to replace autos but DMRs are actually fun now
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>>154676220
N-nani?
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>>154675978
Always 152.
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>>154676513
>>154676307
I guarantee they will add taunts or end of match animations ala Overwatch
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>>154676683
What the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>154676683
>taunts
Don't do this.
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>>154676542
Go offline in uplay, then start up the game. I have the Steam version too. I think you can start the game from either uplay or Steam after you go offline in uplay.
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>>154676865
You want something to do at the end of the round outside of mag dumping walls.
They will sell you a taunt/emote to do. Then they will sell a pose for the end of match screen that show the winning team.

This game needs the Killzone 3 Operations scene, basically shows the winning team bullying the losing team
https://youtu.be/5w8HDn5z5oM?t=126
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>>154677238
I would love something like this for Gears of War
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>>154677238
You know what? That would be fun.

But the end of the round only lasts a couple of seconds so I doubt they would put something that takes so much time to animate, code and design and all that for those last few seconds. Simply taking away the invincibility and the fact that you lose points teamkilling would be much better, it's such a little detail but I do miss it from the beta.
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>still no voice commands
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>>154669906

thanks for reposting my drawing <3
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>>154676865
>Being this out of touch
Keep up, gramps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHOUOafUjZY
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>new patch
>Blackbeard finally nerfed
>new shit added as well
>MY FUCKING MOBO DIED ON ME

Is the new patch a shitfest at the moment or did it actually improve things?
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>>154677823
Taunts aren't anything new breh, haven't you ever played a super smash bros game when you were young?
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>>154677823
This shit is gay
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>>154677672
The bullying scene would be the end of match, not between rounds. A taunt/emote to use anytime during the match is what they would sell.

True, I could see it being too much work at this point in development for what is probably a skeleton crew. Game could use something for the end of match though like Overwatch poses

>>154677913
I don't see any big cancer anymore, Twitch drones chipping at you at the fucking prep phase is annoying as fuck though.
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>jager/rook with rook armor and all three doc stims in them

Jesus this is going to be insane if people run outside with this shit
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>>154670462
I'm having the same issues, dunno what's causing it.
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>>154678082
C L A Y M O R E S

all you really have to worry about now is spawn killing
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>>154670841
it's been almost 4 hours now and still nothing.
fuck.
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So since we have two new recoil affecting attachments that so far seems pretty strong I decided to test recoil and accuracy differences between each barrel attachment while tap firing (excluding suppressor) on the C8-SFW and R4-C. These two rifles specifically because they both have both of the new attachments and because they're complete opposites in terms of recoil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN1QwiC67o8
I also made some comparison images for full auto mag dumps between the two alongside the PARA-308 and 416-C.
http://imgur.com/a/0CX7q
It pretty much just confirms what everyone is already saying, the Muzzle Brake outdoes the Flash Hider for tap firing as intended but even on the first 5 shots of a spray the Muzzle Brake has little to no difference from the Flash Hider in muzzle rise. So the Muzzle Brake is not only better at tap firing but also at burst firing, which was originally the Flash Hider's niche.
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>Rook & Doc spawn killing
>Rook at point
>Doc healing as needed
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>>154678880
Yeah, but once defenders start wising up to claymores then you're going to have to deal with cranked-up defenders running out even more. It's already starting to happen
>>154679450
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>>154679269
Doing good work Anon, but its also depressing to have it confirmed. Because its not really a good thing when something new added to the game is better than everything else in it's field.
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>Caveira now has impact grenades
I LOVE IT
Nitros were so finicky
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>>154678880
>Glaz has a claymore now.
>You can set up around building corners now and just place a claymore behind you to watch your back.
Can you pick claymores up by the way?
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>>154679575
Apparently they didn't learn with Blackbeard.
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>>154679269
>>154679575
Its going to get nerfed/tweaked. Maybe lower damage by 3-4 and then buff the damage on pistols to counter this.
>>154679735
Yes you can

>>154678880
>>154679521
I think the best map for them is Plane. So fucking good to stop peeking, just climb a ladder plant that shit and leave.
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>>154679575
Its not the most difficult thing in the world to fix. Just either have the muzzle brake slightly increase the general recoil on the gun after it absorbs the first shot's recoil or have the flash hider reduce recoil better. Plus flash hider still has the benefit of, you know, hiding the flash.
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>>154677823
reminder that BLR had the best taunts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChCnaYhRShY
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>>154679521
>cranked-up defenders
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>>154679921
That isnt Lost Planet 2
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>>154679941
>Doc my friend, I love your work but you could do so much better. Here, take this package. Leftover from an operation I did. I'm sure you'll find a good use for it.
Siege lore when.
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>>154677967
>Put up a shield at the door
>Twitch drones not allowed in the room anymore
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>>154680019
Fuck I forgot about that. kawaii bunny ears was my shit.
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>>154680106
Yeah but that requires you to use the shield over other things
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>>154680251
I would buy LP2 and play it again if they transferred from GfWL.
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>>154680106
>Put down mute jammer.
>Kill twitch drone, effectively halving her capabilities.
The strongest characters are never those that are considered broken, but rather the ones that counter the broken ones.
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>>154680106
>Twitch drone shocks you while you're locked in the shield up animation
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>>154679918
They should up the recoil on the third shot if you have a muzzle brake on so the recoil pattern resets to what it would be without an attachment after the reduced recoil on the the second shot.
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>>154665203
Funny thing is any good glaz play can do what they do with any other op. Even better because they have better gadgets.
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>some guy is last man standing
>Chokes
>some other guy starts bullying him
>"im autistic"
>leaves match

Pls dont bully people into leaving, anons.
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>>154680378
>not using advanced gadget deployment to cancel it
it was weird getting used to it after 300 hours of standard deployment, but it's definitely worth it
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>>154680587
I hate it when people blame the last teammate the was alive for losing the match. Like, it's so fucking easy, just die in the first minute and you can judge everyone else for their mistakes. It's why I stopped playing csgo, that community is so fucking shitty it does things like that all the time.
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>heartbreaking defeat
https://youtu.be/QT9qM99l9Yk
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Thoughts on impact grenades? Cancer? Alright? Useless?
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>>154681262

Quicker holes than C4 so you need to waste c4 on holes anymore
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>>154681262
Only good for making holes, you won't kill anyone but injured people. They make really good fucking holes too
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>playing ranked bombs on Yacht
>rook because no one is playing support
>they wont reinforce hatches or even vital fucking walls and run off to reinforce rooms away from the objectives they are hiding in
>teammate gets downed upstairs
>slowly going upstairs to try reach him, checking corners
>"COME ANON COME COME ON ITS CLEAR"
>he gets shot
>"RUSH ANON GO RUSH RUSH RUSH YOU CAN KILL awwww he gone why didnt you rush you fucking retard"
>"rook retard"
>"fucking idiot"
>get 3 kills
>teammate gets kills the last one
>get team killed the next round
>"thats for not rushing when i said so fucking cunt"

I fucking hate Germans, you should have all suffered the wrath of an atomic bomb when the chance was there.
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They should really go back to the old reinforcement set up

Imagine is Jager only had one reinforcement to be responsible for, before he runs out to spawn kill?

Gives operators like Rook or Doc time to place their collaborative 6 reinforcements in the room

Yadda yadda.
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What guns should the HBAR be used on?
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>new patch dropped
>can't play because college and work
>tfw not getting a break anytime this week due to workload
>mfw
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There should be victory poses that work as a full set, like how in Lost Planet 2 there were taunts that worked best with a group.
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>>154681887

>Just turned in a 5 page essay and my job is starting to wind down
>more free time for siege
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Siege is approaching god like status lads.
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>>154681887
Dude I have a broken arm so I cab't play for 4 weeks. Stop bitching.
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>>154681834
I'd say mostly defender guns since as an attacker you're probably going to be trying to get in close to an extent anyways.
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>>154680352
if the objective is downstairs you can just put the jammer at the bottom of the stairs the twitch drone can't destroy it without getting in its jamming range
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>>154681997
What the fuck is going on at Ubi. Did they finally realize that siege was their best game by far and that they should support it better?
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>>154681997
I still want a classic rainbow game with single player and planning mode. It's on top of the never happening pile with another good splinter cell
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>>154681997

>Brink

FUCK

SPLASH DAMAGE


FUCK THOSE DIRTY BRITISH BASTARDS
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>>154681834
Any weapon you will be sniping people with, and its usable on. Otherwise the muzzle brake goes on everything. For instance if you are peeking with Jager and Smoke, the Extended Barrel is better for more damage and the recoil isn't THAT noticeable.
>>154682058
yeah I'd agree with this too, on attacking you really don't need/want the extended barrel.
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>>154681887
>just got new position and raise at company
>went from working comfy banker hours
>to extended banker hours, now going in about two hours early, and getting off two hours late
>60+ hours a week
>wanted to play last night
>just missed my friends by 30 minutes

If I had been on, we probably would've played for hours and hours until I had to go to sleep.
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Caveira is best operator
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>>154680660
I do use it. There are still some animations where you're locked in place. I just mixed it up, putting away the shield locks you in an animation. Breaking down Trashchanka's LMG locks you in an animation too.
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>>154680921
to be fair this guy was playing like ass and refusing to move from his spot in the opposite direction of the enemy and didnt use his pulse gadget.

But i didn't care, theres no point shit talking your own team. I felt bad when he left.

I can't stand ranked because of that shit. If you lose then theres one faggot going "NOOB TEAM FUCKING NOOB TEAM U GUYZ SUCK" as if that's going ot motivate anyone to make a comeback.
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>>154681048
>When Doc fires his last syringe at the downed Jaeger, right as Doc himself dies
>when your full squad guns him down before he can fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJPzXsyCXxo
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>>154682156
YOU JUST HAD TO SAY IT
FUCK YOUUUUU
>Hey, let's make TWO games and ABANDON THEM AT LAUNCH EACh TIME
AAAAAAAAH
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>>154682562
I wonder how many people here are dirty bomb refugees.
I miss it.
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>>154682562
>>154682156
>falling for their lies
>twice

Brink can be blamed on Bethesda and Zenimax, there's no fucking doubt they suffered another of their horrible garrote practices. But their post game treatment shoulda tipped you off.
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>>154682728

but muh muh Enemy Territory Wolfensitn.

Dirty bomb was shaping up to be a great modern ET
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>>154680921
>1v5 in the first minute of the match
>clan shitters just had to rush and the randoms got picked off
>last one alive i drone and see if anyone is in the hostage room
>just 2 people
>i break open the wall injure one didn't bother to kill him kill the second guy
>take the hostage run for the window
>just as i get out of the window i get shot in the back from the mac-11
>clan shitters proceed to go "dude what the fuck" and some other shit i forgot
>yeah maybe you shouldn't have died to one fucking guy because you had to rush without scouting ahead with a drone
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>>154682842
Quake Wars was always better than Wolf:ET, it just didn't get the same marketing.
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>>154680315
They really should. It was the best one and I think a lot of people would come back if they dropped GFWL.
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>>154682562
>always hear people bitching about dirty bomb
can someone enlighten me as to what the fuck happened? did the devs just stop supporting the game? was it even any good in the first place?
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>>154681997
i don't get people who love modern ubi games. certain farcry and rayman games get a pass, but rainbow is the only game that i ever really like from ubi. i will never understand how people enjoy boring, handholdy walkathons like asscreed.
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>>154682868
yeah i was playing with these faggots the other day that kept blaming me for losing rounds because i'd be the last one alive. i was doing really shitty but it was because the other team were some clanfag tryhards. next match I played was against them and got top of the scoreboard lol
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>>154683049

It was fucking great if you liked bullet spongy shooters where aiming it important as fuck.

Developers were incompetent hacks who broke the game with every patch the tipping point was when they made a mercenary a little to OP and the game just kept falling apart after the phantom patch. Promised new maps but barely gave us any instead we just alright search and destroy maps
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>>154681048
>hard-fought victory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQOkmHqBTGI
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Anyone else getting problems with Ultrahigh Ping? I'm on EUS as I should be and getting 221 ping.
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sick of these fucking dumb gign niggers who fucking absorb bullets

GIT GUD JUST HEADSHOT EZPZ

You fucking can't headshot these fuckers because every time you turn there head into strawberry jam they fucking don't take any damage. Fucking plat ranked is nothing but these faggots running around invisible.
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>>154683960

but then I hear 3 armor operators are apparently shit
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>>154679269
Also have a comparison on all the DMRs between the Flash Hider and Muzzle Brake
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>>154682147
I want that with the added option of 5 player co-op on classic R6 sized maps with multiple objectives and siege destruction.
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>>154683049
It was buggy,
It was riddled with hackers and false positives,
It had balance issues,
It had a shit loadout system,
It had too few maps,
Pubs were retarded...

But, ultimately, it was a fun game. Abilities were useful but not overpowered. Guns shot where you pointed at. Headshot and tracking were required, and that's a good thing. Some map knowledge and movement practice helped the game feel more alive with going into assisted QTE promps. The mercs were all distinct, and if not likable, at least well designed enough. The voice menu was great, and that's a thing you don't see often anymore.

It was fun with friends.

But SD took the entire dev team off it a couple of months after the open beta started and put them on a GoW spinoff game or something.

The game NEEDED update to keep going. It could have been so much more- despite giving in to the whiners at time, balance patches did not go full retard for the most part: fixing blatant gun imbalance between what should have been sidegrades, attempting to make everyone relevant with varying success...

But the skeleton crew left over decided to implement a cs-lite mode instead of mercs and maps.

So it just died slowly because it's mostly the same game it was a year ago, ie something that needs fixing to work properly.

It's still buggy and plagued with shit pubs, a shit UI, a shit anti-cheat, and a shit loadout system.

It's still merely functional instead of the greatness it could have been.
>>
Whats with the caveria fetishes?

The best girl is iq

It goes like this
IQ > Valk > Ash > Frost = Twitch > Caveria
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>>154682156
It's amazing the servers for that game are still up
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>>154684142
Forgot image
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>>154682156
I KILL YOU OLD SCHOOL
DON'T EVEN NEED A GUN
ARTY ON THE WAY

Here's ammo.
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>>154684441
>still no picture of IQ sitting on Ash's face.
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>>154684610
And a mag dump on the OTS with the Muzzle Brake also has very little spread.
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>>154684610
Put the same image of the SR-25 twice in that, heres the actual Muzzle Brake one.
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>>154684686
DIG A TRENCH OR BUGGER OFF
HERE COMES THA THUNDER
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You guys know how Bucks C8 was already a rape machine but it had horrible recoil.

The muzzle break turns it into a rape monster
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>>154684441
>He doesn't like crazy Brazilian femdom
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>>154684982

AMMO STATION HERE LIKE A KID IN A CANDY STORE
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>>154685049
>You guys know how Bucks C8 was already a rape machine but it had horrible recoil.
They reduced the damage to 38

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>154685207
>smoke in his later years
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>>154684441
>Twitch over Caveria
>Jew over Frost

nice shit taste idiot
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>>154684441
that's a lot of wrong
lemme fix that for you
IQ > Ash > Frost > Cav > Valk > Twitch
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>get a good team, all mics and giving good info, when solo queuing ranked
>we immediately proceed to win 3 matches in a row, 4-1,4-0 and amother 4-0
Why isn't everyone like that?
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CAMRS or C8-SFW? It looks like they reduced the damage of the C8 down to 38, and the CAMRS is better now.
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>>154681625
I'm pretty sure those aren't Germans, probably some refugee.
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>>154685956
Then it's the German's fault they are there
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>>154685897
>que into a team with one afk and another guy who keeps calling everyone else a faggot and ragging on the last guy alive every fucking time
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>>154685902
Can we put this in next OP or something:

In a one-shot-headshot game, fire rate will always be king. Not high damage slow guns.

Semi-auto rifles are for fun, but if you want to crunch numbers, the rifles you can go full auto with at higher rates of fire will be more optimal, always.

TL;DR Use whatever you feel like, both are fine, but guns with high RoF will win in equal conditions.
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>>154685902
CAMRS with the brake is like no recoil
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OC
C
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>Neckbeard BTFO
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>it's a joining session right as a guy leaves ant it doesn't find a guy so you sit there for 10 minutes while everyone else leaves one by one episode
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>>154686376
Nice. I always wanted to see him smoke his cigar.

Guys I really do think we have the most based drawfriends in all of /vg/. Count your lucky stars.
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>>154685956
Why wouldn't they be? Germans are notorious for being ^^ ;) shitters in multiplayer video games.
>>
Anyone else getting high ping issues? I keep getting 200+ ping in EUS
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>>154681625
>>154685956
>>154686650
Come on friendos, let's not generalize. There are cool people and fucktards in every country in the world.
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>>154686613

There is probably some animu game out there with alot more Warframe always had a ton.
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>tfw you have this looping for hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YadXprwNe0k
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>>154658341
Guys...guys...
what if this game just keeps getting better and better?
What if the playerbase just keeps getting larger and larger?

Holy shit I really hope it does. If the devs play their cards right they might just set a new standard for FPS games.

I really want the suits at Ubisoft to give them carte blanche and just keep working on this game full time instead of focusing on fucking Wildlands and Division expansions.
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>>154686650
You are right there being german myself i can confirm 98% of them online are underage cancer who spam ^^ :) ;) :D =D in chat like like some rabid animal you rarely run into one who is chill
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>>154662847
>>154671763
>>154682316
>>154686159
>>154686376
adding to drawfriends gallery
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>>154687248
>new standard

nah mate, the masses want the ol' run 'n' gun, games like Battlefield and CoD dominate the market for a reason.

Siege is on the same league as CS:GO tho, it could be a big name on the competitive world, but I don't know if I'd like it, being a fully competitive game means attracting all kinds of scum, clanfags a such.

At this moment Siege has its own niche of players, which is becoming larger and larger because Ubisoft is actually doing things right for once, but I don't think this game will be the standard for FPS

Battlefield is the choice for people who just want run n gun with vehicles, CoD if you want more frenzy, thats it.

Siege and Halo (Halo being the other big FPS) has their own playerbase and their own "rules" Siege is full on tactical oper8r and Halo is full on sci-fi.
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>>154687919
siege is also competing with Insurgency, Project Reality, Squad and Onward VR in the tacticool market along with CSGO
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>>154688153
>>154687919
>CSGO
>Tacticool

It's literally a modded Half Life with a higher damage model.
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>>154688289
>but dood look at these sick awp strats
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>>154683401
>1v4
>take my time
>someone wants to votekick me
>kill 3 guys
>"15 seconds remaining"
>shitter sense tingles
>rush in
>get insta killed by frost
>some brasilian kid starts crying out and calling me noob
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>>154688392
>dood watch me hip fire all of my weapons because ads is 4 nerds lmao
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>>154687805
Thanks anon, you're the MVP.
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>>154687919
Last thing this game needs is more clanfags.

Fucking cancer.
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>>154688392
Absolutely disgusting. To me it's the equivalent of if I ask somebody "so what kind of games do you like?" and they say "Strategy!" and I go "oh like which ones?"

"Oh you know, like DOTA and LoL. I also like shooters!"

"Ooh... I see...and like which shooters?"

"CSGO bro! It's fuckin intense!!"
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>>154688791
Specially clanfags on the casual mode, sweet jesus, the tryhards are real
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>>154662252
>no gaycog
>no grip
>heavy barrel only
>aim at floor
>get headshots
This gon be fun
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>>154688830
>bot posting

Always find something new to dislike about reddit
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>>154688830
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>>154688886
>clanfags platinum/diamond stack in casual
>tryhard as fuck in casual
>they all try to peek right at the start whether it be predicting spawns or outright rushing my team full of RANDOMS including myself at the start
>le epic bandit trick and ESL starts if they get basement
>they are all playing with sweatbands while sweating on voice comms
>they shit talk, teabag and tell my team to get good

Gotta get those kills and wins in casual, bro!
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>>154688830
>mfw working on a piece of high-quality OC just for /r6g/ right now
get rekt plebbit
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>>154688857
>mfw I once had someone tell me with a straight face that LoL requires the same level of skill and thought as chess does

I had to pull all my self composure together to not laugh in his face.

Fucking delusional manchildren that try to justify their shit taste.
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>>154688830
>why drawfags aren't here

well maybe because the subreddit of rainbow 6 is:

>dude watch this cool clip N#465766
>dude tachanka lmao
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>>154689005
What sub is this?
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>>154688830
>why don't we have any artists
because if people post anything that doesn't pander to you retards and your shitty memes you give them le downvotes and they never improve, get feedback, or want to post again?
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>>154688886
>it's a 5 stack premade with ther own emblem in their profile pic
>they call hacks and get super fucking salty if you kill them
>if they kill you they t-bag like their life depends on it
Gas chambers for clan fags when?
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>>154689217
Pretty much this
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>>154689221
>>154689217
>>154689190
>>154688830
You can blame that fucking moron from last thread that linked it for them.

Here he is being mega-ebin and trying to be the cool kid who peddles 4chan-memes.
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>>154689217
>>154689221
>>154689359

We only want non-shitposting/non offensive art on our reddit
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>>154689294
>matched against clanfags
>they're actually retarded and your team of uncommunicative randos shits on them
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>>154689620
>absolutely shit on clanfags
>right after win say on text chat: "Can I join ur clan pls ur so cool"
>they go ballistic
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>>154689572
i don't get it
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>>154689527
>Is Tina "Frost" LIN-TSANG chinese?
How are retards still asking this?
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>>154689217
Fucking spot on lad same thing with the dayz reddit DUDE LOOK AT THIS EBIC KILL VIDEO
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>>154689527
>itshighblackbeard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ
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>>154688791
>>154689184
>>154689294
>>154689620
>>154689764
t. salty scrubs who get shit on by people who are actually good at the game

maybe you'll get good enough to play in esl/cevo :)
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>>154689819
/r6g/ is not bright at all, not to mention anons here constantly like to make shit up.
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>>154689620
>enemy team is a premade, gold and platinum omega tryhards
>my team is 3 slavs with 200ms, 1 br who doesn't know any word in English and me
>we all rolfstomp the enemy team using recruits
>the ragequit at the final round (we were tied 2-1)

amazing
>>
Better map preferences when?
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>>154690142
idunno
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>>154690142
I want to get off this plane

I really hate the plane, its horrible
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>>154690142

I dont really think its a bad thing that the map prefernces is broken forces people to learn maps instead of muh 1 map only
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>>154690013
>clan fags actually good at the game
>they proceed to peek 1 fucking window one after the other dying to 1 fucking guy
>they call hacks and spam the chat with shit
yeah sure there are some teams who coordinate their moves but most of them are just utter fucking shit
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>>154690327
Although I do think preferences need to get unfucked, it is SO much better than something like cunterstrike and muh dust2 EVERY SINGLE MATCH
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>>154689764
>"hey are you guys recruiting?"
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So claymores huh? The madmen actually did it, they nerfed roaming, but doesn't it make retaking the objective as a defender a massive pain in the dick?
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>>154664163
give bandit 4 wire

solved
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>>154690401
>things that never happen
>>154690826
i don't understand the hate for people in a clan. they just enjoy the game like anyone else. why are you guys so butthurt?
>>
How much damage do impact grenades do to shield operators?
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>>154690925
It does. If you get in quickly you might retake it, but if they get such a solid hold of it that they get the chance to set up traps for you, then you've already fucked up super hard.
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>>154691030
48
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>>154690327
Yeah this. The group of people I play with are too stubborn to learn all the new dlc maps so they just call them shit and filter them out, then they force me to filter them out.

>join a casual match with 2 other friends of that group
>it's favela
>"alright fuck this leave the match"
>I reply: " really? It's just a casual match and it's kind of a dick move to leave these 2guys here"
>"nah fuck this map is shit I already played it twice today"
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>>154690974
The hate is isn't for every clan, it's for the clans that talk shit after winning 1 round. Then when they lose the entire match we shit on them for being the cunts they are.

If you don't talk shit as a clanfag I won't even notice you probably.
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>>154691240
Your friends are fucking shitters who ruin the fun of other people on top of it, anon. Get better ones.
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>>154691696
Yeah I didn't join another lobby with them. Just went to watch a movie, that shit really pissed me off too because I actually like favela.
They're also not my real life friends and I only really am friends with one guy.
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what's the latest tier list?
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>>154691240
Well time to tell them to man up and play the map or they will never learn it
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>>154691969
Favela is shit though.
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>>154692226
>High-tier
Me

>Low-tier
You
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>>154690974
>Do something that irks one clanfag
>"Hey kick this faggot."
>"Wait wh-"
>Insta vote kicked

>Clan fag team
>All of them using comms outside of game (Skype/discord/TS)
>No idea what they are saying and can't communicate with them
>We lose and they blame the person not in their clan for losing

>"Dude spawn rush them."
>Reinforce objective instead
>Clanfags get btfo
>"DUDE WHAT THE FUCK YOU USELESS TRASH."
>vote kicked

>Do better than clan fags all game
>Last round
>Tell them to pick up the pace a bit
>Team killed
>"Lol U mad bro?"

They are cancer and should be genocided
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>>154686781
Warframe had a ton back when it was FUN
And most weeb games are filled with people screaming about how their game is dying and how people should stop playing
This game seems pretty fun and its a rare general that doesn't complain about dead all the time.
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>>154692346
Yeah I told them that already, but they said something like "yeah maybe when I've reached diamond"
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>>154692396
Exactly, like I'll give Clanfags a chance, but typically the ones with the clan name in their Username are clear trash, the ones without the clan name in the username are alright most of the time.
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>>154691445
I hate clanfags like I hate tripfags; go ahead and play together but fuck off with your mlgleetxxx.[name] tags, just play together like normal people
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>>154688857
Well at least CSGO is a shooter so that's slightly more acceptable than the previous one.
I remember it being a lot more fun and everybody was a lot more chill a few years back (especially when alltalk was on) though, now everyone seems to have a stick up their arse and the shitposting is off the rails.
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>>154692674
with that attitude they will never reach Diamond faggots gotta adapt to every map even if they don't like it
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jesus are muzzle brakes broken or some shit, the recoil patterns are ridiculous
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>>154692738
>BxD Sk1ll
>BxD Sp33d
>BxD 420xKu5h
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>>154693058
Well some of them did reach diamond last season and most got to platinum. So they're not terrible at the game, just fucking stubborn.
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>>154693257
Thoe graphs have always been shit, but muzzle breaks are broken, bokenly good, put them on everything
>>
>Hereford
>playing Bandit
>planning a relatively passive round because going hard on Hereford always gets me killed
>Doc shoots me up with some drugs
>feeling radical
>someone calls garage
>sprint in and kill Sledge as he recovers from hammer animation
>headshot Glaz
>melee Blackbeard
>get downed
>somehow survive downed until the end of the round
10/10 Doc buff
>>
>taser during startup
>two simultaneous tasers
>but only two, with no other drones
so twitch didn't get broken then? only off thing about the update seems to be the muzzle break being too fucking good, so pretty alright all around
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>>154688830
>my drawing is on Reddit
I thought they didnt like art/fan artists?

I don't know how to feel about this, but I guess it was inevitable.
>>
>>154693994
No matter what, reddit bottom feeders will post whatever they can get their hands on in order to get validation.
>>
I haven't been on /r6g/ for the past month for reasons. Where did all the drawfags come from?
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>>154660816

To be fair, MGS 4 fucked up a lot of what MGS 3 fixed...
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>>154694904
I have the stuff to draw, others started so I tried it too.
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what is this muzzle brake meme
I am still using suppressors on most guns. I like not having my tracers seen.
>>
>getting those 10-20 second freezes during prep phase again

reeeeeeeeee fix it again ubisoft
>>
The P90 is SO fucking good now holy shit
>>
On the loading screen whatt are the 10% 100% 110% in yellow next to peoples names?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs9fwJEPXnE&feature=youtu.be

Will it fail lads?
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>>154695858
Renown boosters. If you play with someone that has one active, you gain 10%, which stacks higher the more people in your group with boosters.
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>>154696097

>Female Ghosts
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>>154694773
Eh, maybe I'm optimistic but I at least hope it will bring more fan arists to the community. Who am I kidding it'll probably bring a bunch of requesters here.

>>154694904
This game made me remenber how much I like to draw military/operator stuff. Also a random post here sometimes inspires me to draw and /v/ drawthreads usually suck.
>>
I don't think I want the impact grenade at all, as Smoke, I use the shotgun to make kill holes and tunnels between bomb rooms already, and the SMG is for killing, of course.
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>>154696097
>An open-world Ubisoft game
It will make money if that's what you're asking.
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>castle blocks my path with his shit
>use impact grenades to create shortcuts through walls around it and the map
>get cheeky peak on thermite then run back inside
Impact gnades are way better than nitro
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>>154695118
>PC dead so no Siege
>want to contribute OC
>have Wacom tablet
>laptop running Vista doesn't support it

I need my fix of Siege. I just might get desperate enough to learn pixel art shit at this rate.
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>>154696784
I have an intuos pro, and I just blew some money on a surface 4But I rarly ever draw What am I doing
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>>154696530
>clip
>>
>tfw twitch is good
>send drone in
>destroy every camera
>they are 100% blind
>shoot kapkan 9 times before my drone is destroyed
>send another drone in
>down him
>guy comes to help him
>shoot him 6 times when hes running towards kapkan
>getting kapkan up
>down him too
>murder them both
>did this in ranked

Can a drawfag draw TWITCH DRONE, DESTROYER OF WORLDS
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>>154695302
>>154696429
am I playing this game wrong? no one is even bothering to respond to me.
>>
>>154696897
at least this one is just a homonym and not flat out wrong
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>>154689217
>>clip
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>>154697025
Hi

You have to work on your post appeal. If it's not interesting to read people just kind of don't reply

Maybe attach an image or something to make it more likely to people to notice you
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>>154658341
Parents are fighting really bad this week (21 year old college student). Plz post me Siege memes. ;_;
>>
>>154697153
I wish I could record webms. I don't know how. there's no replay feature
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>>154695302
Possible reply to this:
Okay

and

>>154696429
Okay
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>>154696268
It's not really a why not when women have been in the Ghost Recon series since the first game.
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>>154697310

So wait Advanced Warfighter removed it lmao
>>
>>154697304
I was really expecting people to reason with me about why what I am doing is wrong, but I guess what I am doing is not so wrong at all!
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>>154697063
It's still pretty triggering, just like when people use they're/their/there and your/you're incorrectly.
>>
>>154697381
you play as one team in that game and you can't replace them.

didn't that team die in Future Soldier?
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>>154697432
>STOP PLAYING DIFFERENT TO HOW I'M PLAYING
We don't do that so much around here. Whatever you find most fun. You do you, boo.
>>
>>154697560

Future Soldier was alright

The best mission had to be taking out those rebels in that African refugee camp
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>>154697667
it really was
but Hardcore mode is bullshit
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>>154697263

Guys plox
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>>154697532
Eh you're brain sometimes shuts down when typing and you punch in the wrong word because it sounds the same, not too bad honestly
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>>154697263
There's a gallery in the OP now
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>>154696883
Either sell the tablet or find some motivation to draw. Taking request is a great way of getting that motivation. Personally, I struggle to think of something I would want to draw out of the blue and don't any obligation to finish it. Taking up a request not only gives you the subject to draw but also an expectation to meet, thus motivation to make it look nice and see it finished.
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>>154697876
Really?
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>tfw you make music for a living
desu I wanna redo the old Rainbow Six theme by Bill Brown, but I'm just too lazy to do it.
>>
>>154697924
I think the surface was a mistake. The tablet is much better despite not being a display.
>>
>>154697982
>/r6g/ Drawfriend Gallery
https://imgur.com/a/rVmZG
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>>154698117
JUST
DO IT

MAKE
YOUR DREAMS
COME TRUE

this handsome motherfucker remixed the classic XCOM soundtrack. If he did it, you can do the same for Rainbow Six and people will suck your dick.

sycraft.org/content/audio/xcom.shtml

Do you want your dick sucked?

THEN
DO IT
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anyone else getting fuckawful lag since the update?
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>>154698353
>>154698117
Ballin'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gruIdsP1TG8
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>>154698156
Well the Surface is more of a gimmicky laptop than a drawing tablet.
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>>154698549

im diggin it
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>>154698486
>count no less than 22 shots hitting Fuze

I'd be livid even if I actually killed him.
>>
>>154698703
hit detection fixed guys :^)
>>
>>154696097
I dunno. It kinda looks like a 4 player coop Mercinaries spiritual successor. I hope it'll be fun, but won't become the mold for the series.
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>tfw have no one to play with and forced to solo queue
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>>154699530
Go to the teamspeak, familia.
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>>154699530
that is my life
I will never touch ranked for as long as I don't have teammates from here
and I never will, because I'm not from the US or Europe and will always get booted out of games for having 'too slow connection'
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>>154699734
never say this
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>>154699808
Why not, it's there to be used
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>>154682037
Suffering isn't a competition anon.
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>>154699798
Where are you from?

Are you the argentine fella?
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>>154699798
We've played with BR's, Australians, and Russians m8. I think everything would work out fine

One thing I like about here is that there's people from all over the world
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>>154699734
Teamspeak has two full teams, don't get his hopes up.
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>>154700104
how are they not being booted for having too slow connections?

I'm from Philippines
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>bandit places a shock wire where my jammer is
>destroys the jammer
>he runs away without even shocking the second wall
>i tell him to come back and shock the other one
>looks at me from the door of the room and runs away
>bullet to the head
>quit game

fucking mongs I swear
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>>154700132
So? Soon a third will form too

>>154700161
I dunno. They just don't. Max ping I've seen is 250~300 and that was exaggerating
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>>154699869
Hes probably from another general
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>>154700262
that's my ping in Japan on my best day.
I am just so sad I can't play elsewhere or anyone that isn't randoms.
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>>154700376
Sorry man, I guess you're gonna have to move

Isn't your country ran by a really crazy dude that wants to kill all drug addicts btw? Or am I mixing it up
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>>154700647
yes
and we love it
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>>154700728
Jesus christ
Okay, better stay there then and never leave

Bandit wants to assassinate that guy, I'm sure.
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>tfw you upload the wrong version of a video
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>>154698486
Beautiful, saved because nice edit
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>>154700793
he doesn't want to 'kill' all of them
just stop the drug problem is all, it just so happens that most of them have guns and will fight to the death and he would rather defend the police for killing them than criminals who apparently deserve the right to due process, which is a first and everyone likes it except the actual drug people and their apologists.
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>>154698486
A BATTLE OF GIANTS, COMRADE
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>>154701000
Is he invoking Dredd? No need for red tape anymore?
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>it's a your teammates are /pol/ and spend the whole game spouting shit about israel episode
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>>154701000
I dunno familia it sounds a lot like actual genocide, specially when he seems to be motivating vigilante murders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHvYYopJupA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwU4yE-1HV4
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>>154701251
I think in a press conference he said something like
"if you, a policeman, are in a predicament where you have a choice between shooting a drug pusher and getting killed because you have to take the time to decide, by god shoot him first"

>>154701362
it's a horrible spin by the media, a lot of drug users and pushers have been able to surrender peacefully, the actual number of murders is very small compared to that
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>>154688830
>>154689527
how long do you think it'll be before he discovers the updated drawfriends gallery and posts it on reddit?
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>>154701275
>Ash players
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>>154698237
Disturbing lack of IQ.
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>>154701751
Hey, now, don't be mean to reddit
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>blackbeard
>The HP of the shields has been reduced, from 800HP to 150HP.
>800
who the fuck thought this was allowable? who the fuck though that
>yes, his shield is a bit strong, it should be breakable, how about 8 times an operators health with no headshot hitbox
I mean I'm glad it's gone but christ, seeing it spelled out in numbers is painful
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>>154701751
That's your chance to draw a new OC, anon.
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>>154702201
I didn't even know it was 800 either, but that was really quite unacceptable now that you think about it

headshots did like 120 damage, sure let's let the shield be able to take like 7 times of that lmao
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>>154702530
But I can't draw!
and I don't want to learn
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Can anyone post that lewd of IQ wearing tight socks?

You know the one
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>>154698486
His fucking strut down the stairs is killing me jesus christ
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can we get a draw fag to make a mock up map with all the defenders hiding behind the smallest cover getting raped by grenades and shit. Label it when my team defends

Then make another where it is the exact opposite where the defenders are running out killing people and everyone else is hiding in their spawn.
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>>154696126
ty
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>everyone using muzzle brakes
>every gun is like perfect accuracy
Yeah this shit is getting nerfed when Jap ops get added.
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>>154703481

Its back to when the compensator was the go to attachment
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>go 11-1
>next game
>go 9-0

How did Muzzle Brake get through testing, seriously. The MP7 and F2 are RIDICULOUS now.
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>>154703752
L-85 has been my gun lately.
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>>154703752
That's not the Muzzle Break, that's Bandit's vibrations perfectly stabilizing the gun's recoil when he fires.
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>>154693994
Not posting the version that has her nails painted
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The extended barrel on the M416 is good for long range shit actually
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>>154700132
>>154700262
>Been sitting in teamspeak for like 2 hours while checking out the patch on casuals
>see this
>Hop on Team 3 in case the Anon actually shows up
>Never does
Theres no need to be shy, its only vidya.
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I get off work in half an hour. How's the patch? Are people still in the TS?
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>>154704262
Y-you too!
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>>154704262
Not him but I'll get on in a bit, stay if you can
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>>154704262
Its always cool to just hang around and bantz with a full team until more people join.

>>154704357
2 full teams right now with a few left over. But the TS empties out fast. Ill stay on for ya.
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>>154704418
>>154704448
>>154704453
Just hop in 3 whenever, I'll get out of AFK then.
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>the go to attachment
it's the suppressor!!
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>>154704738
As of today its the Muzzle Brake
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>>154704738
>Cool factor +100

They should buff the suppressor at least. Give it more renown per use per round or something if they cant think of anything.
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>>154698237
>>154697876

I tried to make a meme in repayment I hope it helps.
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>>154704656
did he dieded
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>>154704879

Original
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>>154704932
Eventually but too long for 4chan file limits.
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>>154704656
>>154704262
Hop in an already full room and just chill until someone leaves. not sure why we do it that way but its the real way to squad up
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Invite your friends and teachers
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>every single time I go for a quick headshot with a shield my game stutters
WHY FUCKING WHY
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>>154705487
>want to join the teamspeak
>see shit like this
>when I hopped in one time I just got assaulted with memes by nasally 16 year olds
Nah, I'll pass.
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>>154694989
But the online multiplayer was always god-tier
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https://youtu.be/ownaVK0KS-o

The REAL deal this time, no mistakes.
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>>154705841
Look at where you're at.
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>>154706404
Both the TS and Discord were equally Reddit and I only entered both once.
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>>154698486
ruskie boolets dont hurt other comrades, this is of fact))))))))
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>>154704879
Being Rook is suffering.

Also, you did good, anon.
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>>154706593
>everything i don't enjoy is reddit
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>>154706690
Thanks mang, I thought Rook was the best character to mesh with the text.
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>>154706796
>kids that spout Lord Chanka memes aren't Reddit
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>>154706832
you must be mistaken friend, we are in peak shaveposting mode in the TS, no tachanka nonsense
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Can someone post DRUGS?
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Reminder to invite female teachers to play on the TS
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>3 full teams in TS
>Everyone being operators and bro-tier as fuck

The dream is real
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>>154706593
>>154706832
I dunno man, I've been in TS for many months and I haven't ran into any meme spouters. Everyone is pretty friendly and well adjusted. Maybe you've had bad luck?

I haven't really played with much of the EU crowd though so that's my personal experience.
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>>154706404
Last time I was in TS it didn't sound like such a shithole. There needs to be a meme channel and a channel for people who just want to play the game.
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>>154704879
>when you realize that nobody took armor
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>>154706796
>>154707976
I'm implying since you go on this website you're no better. So no use in trying to pretend you're any better. Most people on the TS are cool and nice
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>>154707976
It isn't bad. It's pretty good. That anon is memeing on you, everyone is fine
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>>154708138
thanks anon, I'll name it that
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>>154708157
It's not about being better, it's about toning down the memes blogposting in TS. Otherwise it'll wind up like that Discord that went south completely fast.
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The fact that so many redditers still name tachanka as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" operator ever only tells you how far reddit still is from becoming a serious discussion board. Anon has long recognized that the greatest operators of all times are Jager and Ash, who were not the most famous or easiest to play or most picked of their times, let alone of all times. /r6g/ browsers rank the highly controversial IQ over operators who were highly popular in maps across the board. Redditors are still blinded by memetic success. Tachanka produced more memes than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore he must have been the greatest. /r6g/ browsers grow up playing a lot of tactical shooters of the past. Redditors are often totally ignorant of the tactical shooters of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that Tachanka did anything worthy of being saved.
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>>154708639
Its popular, so kids go to it when they grow into age. We are still fairly niche so that helps us out.
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Which guns have too much recoil to handle a heavy/extended barrel?

Or should I just be equipping them on every gun that can take them?
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Where is the online community in this game concentrated at? PvP?
Steam says there are 14k players online but it takes forever to queue realistic terrorist hunt.
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>>154709080
Nobody plays terrorist hunt anymore, that was only for the first two months of release. You missed your chance for it unless you put a group together yourself.
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>>154709223
Ah fuck, I don't want to play PvP cause I'm not good at it yet.
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>>154704879
>>154708251
>>154708138
yea, nay?
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>>154709525
Remove the shit stain from that protestor's face and it'll be alright.
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From what I've seen on here it seems like you guys imply Caveira isn't really good. I haven't played as her at all, but her SMG seems really fucking good and I've eaten shit from it way too many times. Is she just really situational?
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>>154709735
it's buckbeard, but alright
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What ops stillchave nitros? I havent played the update yet and dont wanna look through all of them to see once i do play.
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>>154709735
>>154709989
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>>154708639
>Jager and Ash
False, the official ops of /r6g/ are Buck and Bandit
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>>154709395
pretty much everyone who wasn't gud at pvp played it until they got gud

laugh at me

>>154709793
I have Buck and Valkyrie and am looking to buy her next because I don't particularly like Frost, Cap or Blackbeard.
I want her for the silent step thing, though I think claymores are gonna bite me in the ass if I try to abuse it.
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>been disgusted by the total lack of common sense with every update
>hell it took them a third of a year to realize BB is overpowered
>literally 4+ months to collect the "data" to prove the man who can hide in a window and not be killed with no downsides is quite possibly too strong
>ubisoft adding progressively stronger OP's that disrupt game balance in a negative way
>game basically turned into roamer central
>gives everyone nitrocells
>buffed Pulse when he was perfectly balanced when shield users were hurting since forever

this update comes along
>takes all the best suggestions the community (including myself) have been putting forward
>twitch gets multiple shock drones and one during the planning phase, fucking awesome
>BB has been made a viable pick, not a must pick
>Doc, after almost a full year, can finally fucking heal people and have his gadget being useful since it was never used except for the self heal
>removed a bunch of nitrocells
>added shit that fucks roamers in the ass
>game is super balanced and rock paper scissors again
>feels safe sometimes picking shield users again

HOLY FUCK did they fire the dev team or something and hire people with ACTUAL SKILL to make this update or something? Like holy fuck these are HUGE changes and almost all of them are good.
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>Hold still
>Moves out of the way of heal dart
>HOLD STILL
>Ducks
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Who here has gotten a claymore kill? It actually works and got a flanker who wanted to flank from outside.
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Anyone in Australia play siege? Thinking of buying it.
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>>154710625
>not just stimming yourself up to a 120 hp god and doing shit yourself
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>try to become shotgun 3 armored rooked 120hp stimed up meme lord
>engage thermite on stairs
>get immediately killed

It's like every time I try to do this I fail horribly, but I can do some horrible damage otherwise.
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>>154710679
I got the drop on two guys with Frost and I would have had the third one, but a claymore downed me. I swear I was in range of it's laser for a fair second at least, so I'm not sure if I stood just far away enough, accidentally hit it with a shotgun pellet or if it has a delay and I survived because I was backpedaling after I saw the thing.
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Recruits don't get to play with the new claymores and impact grenades ;_;
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>>154710679
I haven't really used it but I've had a couple close calls against them when roaming with Rook
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>>154711863
>recruits get a frag grenade and nitrocell
>wanting the worst of these options

The only thing I want for recruits is two frag grenades, because the whole "no unique gadget + no weapon attachments + only one of these grenades" thing is getting old
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>>154710679
>leave the room of the objective to go kill the Thatcher stomping about outside of the room.
>run right into his claymore right after he plants it
>see his character model leaning back with his hands up like he was blown away
>he's actually fine, and fucking aces our team

Absolute bullshit, they are.
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Like 2/3 games I've had in the past day have been fucking clanfags in casual that I can't carry against. Last game I went like 9-5-4 and two people on my team barely got 1 kill.
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>no option to customize Recruit weapons and loadout
why put him in in the first place? he's a handicap.
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>>154684441
Caviera would be up there IMO, she has more appeal.
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>>154711863
>>154712198
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Anyone notice how you can actually hear the enemy team say 'deploying claymore mine' like it's release day? I heard a Glaz shout it out right outside the objective room.
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Somebody requested this a long time ago but I only just now got around to it. If you haven't seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPsiRGMEDW0
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>>154713669
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>>154712739
Because Ubisoft, for whatever reason, wants to handicap him and make him the red headed step child. They don't want him to serve any purpose, I guess in an effort to force you to buy OP's with renown.

Which is fine, except you get stuck with Recruit and whatever shitty loadout they give you if you load into a match late, instead of just a random operator. So you get to play, but you are quite literally gimped as one of the worst characters in the game.

These aren't mouth breathering marines or anything, they are "recruits" in the most elite counter terrorism unit in the world. They are clearly good at something. If they don't have a special, they should be versatile at the basics. Why recruit is the only character to show up to a mission with one wall reinforcement, when everyone else manages to bring two with them plus their crazy unique gadgets? It's beyond me.

Recruit can be good at laying down barb wire, taking both stun and smoke grenades, or a breaching charge and stuns, and other things. These are the basic tools, but Ubisoft also forces them to be shit in many other ways.

When Recruit was actually good, the FBI Shield Recruit being a decent shield user because 1911/5-7, frag grenade, shield and 3 speed 1 armor... Ubisoft nerfed him. People actually found a reason to pick shield recruit *occasionally* and Ubisoft said "LOL FUCK THAT"

Hopefully whoever did the most recent update (I suspect they changed staff members of the lead designer) will also realize recruit doesn't need to be complete dog shit, just not as good as the standard operators but more flexible.
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>>154713669

>Glaz is the one sleeping
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>>154713669
The art style almost looks like Archer...
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>>154714169
They should make recruit loadout customizable, after you buy all, non-dlc operators.
German recruit for defence is a good, but situational pick. British recruit is probably the best you can have for attackers.
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>>154717784
That art's real good.
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>Valkyrie will never set up the perfect camera angles while caveira holds you down with twitch shoving sex toys into you all while IQ sits on your face
Why live
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>>154717784
I dunno, I still like fbi shield despite losing his sanic speed; 45 and 5-7, breaches, and the only shield with a frag I think, he's a fun situational pick
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>>154718121
To make your dreams a reality of course!
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>>154710902
>Doc overheals himself as soon as the match starts
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>>154718269
gotta prep for them twitch drones now
I think they're just fiddling with the new controls to figure out what the self heal button is
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>Ubi disabled the surrender option until the No ELO exploit with it is fixed
I guess it was too late to put it in this patch. I'm happy they've noticed though, and now fuckers can't pull it for now.
https://twitter.com/Rainbow6Game/status/775706140210593792
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God damn I want this one. Put it up for renown already Ubi you jews
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>>154718673
I know right? They've been pretty good with the patches and balances so far.
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>>154718121
> bringng those /owg/ levels of shit here
please dont
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>>154718767
>kind of medieval twitch that could still pass as modern gear and gets rid of her gimp look up for renown
>buck's ski mask up for renown
>SUNNY D jager for renown
happened with all my faves, it's just a matter of patience while they fleece the kind of people who actually pay money for cosmetics in a full priced game
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>>154718121
>you will never have this
>even if you do you won't be able to enjoy it fully because you're not a cute girl and can't get toys shoved into both holes, and cum with no refractory period
I hate everything
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>>154717784
I would be happy if they did one of those two things - make weapons customizable, or bring the recruits up to par gadget wise (2x Grenades, 2x Reinforcements). I would love to do the barb wire hell that is 1 bandit + 4 recruits, but it simply does not work most of the time because you really need those 10 wall reinforcements on the vast majority of the maps.
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>>154719136
seriously, the fucking wall reinforce has NO reason to stay gimped, i can kind of see why they limit gadgets to prevent going spammy (which is stupid), but there's no reason to fuck over your team by gimping something most maps are balanced around
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>>154718123
Yeah he's still alright, and a good shield pick, but super circumstantial. I like him because the 1911 is fucking beast mode and accurate but, honestly, I just want recruits to not be inbreds. It can't hurt the game having more characters and more choices. As it is right now, they just take up a space on the menu select screen and sometimes accidentally load you into a match as them to frustrate you.
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>>154719224
>design entire game around wall reinforcements
>every character and their mother has 2 wall reinforcements
>80% of matches require you using all 10 your team has access to
>make a character that only has 1
>make him the default "joined the match too late to pick a character option"
>totally fair
>oh he also has zero unique abilities at all
>he also can't customize his weapons making every firefight unbalanced in the oppositions favor since he is using irons with zero attachment bonuses

Might as well make him bright neon orange as well tbqh
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>>154713394
Probably an oversight again. Ever since Skull Rain was released, you can hear Capitão's dialogue if you're a defender. They still haven't fixed it either with this patch release.
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>>154719439
>>154719224
Recruits don't have to be viable.
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>>154719592
Why not?
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>too good for bronze
>i always lose the game that would put me in silver usually because i have 1 or 2 0 kills in my team
How do i git gud and carry harder lads?
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>>154719592
>load into game late through no fault of your own
>gimp your team on one of the core mechanics of defending for no reason
walls aren't about being viable, fucking tachanka isn't viable, half the ops that got buffed over time weren't previously viable, and yet they all have 2 walls
recruits are below not viable and actively hurt your team on defense, while offense recruits don't, say, carry the hostage at half speed or use a chinese knock off defuser that takes twice as long to set up
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Is the gold edition worth buying for $40 on the PS4? I have a shit-tier laptop and I can't bring a desktop onto base so PC is no go
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>>154719592
>load in late to a game of no fault of your own or AFK at an inconvenient time but return in time for the actual match
>give you a character who is literally dogshit
>they do this for no reason other than "lol fuk u"

Who is this helping again?
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Ubi is fucking killing it with these patches and DLC.
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>>154719816
>He thinks that a Recruit with an optimal loadout such as MP7 + 3Barb + Nitro is LITERAL DOGSHIT, UBISOOOOOOOOOFT

Recruit is fine. Don't go AFK, shitter.
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>>154719684

>Solo queue
>Place silver 2
>Bronze 3 and still falling

This game is quite possibly the worst solo queue experience I've ever had. I've lost 3 matches where we went from 3-0 to 3-5 and I couldn't stop it from happening. Every other game is a 1-4 loss because my team is filled with 1/0/4 retards who die in the first 60 seconds of a round for some mysterious fucking reason. I want to like this game but I'm tired of having to be the ONE FRIENDLY OPERATOR REMAINING (1 V 4).
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>>154719990
>lol don't load into a game-in-progress, shitter
>just get stuck playing a worse version of bandit with 1 wall reinforcement and no ACOG

hahaha whatever
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>>154719945
Yeah if only I can get teams where I'm not carrying clan shitters that don't know how to talk outside of their Discord.
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>>154719945
seriously, I was amazed at the brazil rollout; no meme operator like frost or beard before
>caviera's wallhacks are super situational to get, are announced to EVERYONE, and don't even last that long
>guns aren't THAT amazing, even the meme pistol with 99 fucking damage has retardedly high falloff
>encourages roaming, SUPRISE! claymores!
>everyone knew capitao would be balanced so whatever
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>>154714169
>I suspect they changed staff members of the lead designer
>/r6g/ making assumptions again
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Is Recruit autistic
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>>154720592
>game goes from totally dogshit updates that never occur ever with OP DLC operators ruining the game to suddenly making informative, intelligent patches on a regular basis to reshape the game and restore balance

I guess their staff just woke up one morning and decided to stop being complete dog shit after 7+ months of bad decisions?
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>>154719945
>a Ubisoft game
>actually being supported well
>and is consumer friendly

I thought I would never see the day.
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>>154720592
>literally says he's making a guess
>"LOL /rsg/ IS JUST MAKING SHIT UP AGAIN"

wow
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>>154720665
Could be, or it could be they noticed The Division was a sinking ship yet when they checked up on Siege they realized people still play this game. Better to try and save one game while it still has a pulse in it.
>>
Why are you retards still bitching about Recruit? Recruit isn't a character, it is a non-choice. What you get before you get something.
What you all should really be asking for is a system set so that if I don't pick then by default I will pick Bandit, and if not available then Jager, etc etc.
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>>154720151
>Playing Casual

fucking lmao who cares dude, have fun sweating in casual against teams of drunk dudes teamkilling each other and "EPIC SHIELD TEAM 6 XP"
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I feel sorry for Blackbeards that don't read the changelog.

Is Doc viable now?
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>>154720812
>99.975 percent of posts pitching on /r6g/ relate to ranked in some way
>playing the mode that griefs you endlessly by being only shit
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>>154720846
Yeah, and fun.
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>>154720665
The game's biggest problems early on were bugs tho, not a design issue
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>>154720846
Doc was always viable.
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>>154721075
>bugs
Game had shit anti-cheat

Operator balance
Weapon balance
Fucking NETCODE

Who knows what else, these were problems with the game when I bought it back in March.
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>>154721075
Please explain how unbalanced pick rates with obviously shit characters, who remained shit for months and months, with a drastic paradigm shift in design to autoshotty roamers and nitrocells - were "bugs"

The game was never "broken" but it had many, many things that needed fixed since day one (Montagne and Tachanka included), and still aren't fixed. They ignored these and did whatever they wanted, or fixed non-issues (FBI Shield Recruit). It was horrible decision making on their part.
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>>154720812
>this entire game mode should be totally disregarded when it comes to ideas for for balance or improvements in general
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>>154720846
doc is great, beard is balanced, I'm having fun with both when the servers don't shit themselves, it's an ok day
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>>154714169
you can't load into Ranked late.
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>>154720812
>not playing the game mode that is super realistic by having a random variables you have to account for in a tactical situation, instead of just having dank meta and setting up perfect defensive memes
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>>154721274
>play the mode where if someone quits you are doomed to failure

lol k.
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>>154720846
THE premier lone wolf terror hunt operator now, not that it matters to most
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>>154721308
>super realistic
>Not being able to choose your approach/where you put the objective inside the structure
What
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>muzzle break is literally perfect for Jäger's rifle
>making him even more powerful than he was

Jäger is probably gonna get hit hard with the nerfbat, isn't he? That gun effectively has no recoil now.
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>>154709080
Just play lone wolf
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>>154721374
guy was complaining that if you load in late you get Recruit.

it's casual, who cares
>>
>>154721451
It's more realistic than knowing perfectly where, when, how and what everyone is going to do ahead of time, and bringing the characters with the perfect talents for just that situation

There is random chance in everything, and nothing you ever plan for will go exactly according to it. That is life.
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>>154721478
I'm certain the muzzle break will be nerfed across the board by the next patch. It's just better in every way than the flash hider and compensator.
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>>154721668
Bucks C8 is fixed now thanks to the muzzle break.
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>>154696883
hey if you ever come back to the general or don't die in your sleep, you should draw a drone on a skateboard or something to practice
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WHERE WERE YOU WHEN RUSHING THE OBJECTIVE WITH CLAYMORES BECAME THE NEW META
also pls don't fuck the aspect ratio
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>main Thatcher
>have to live with the reality that he is definitely a horrible racist
>>
is it true that rooks armor can get destroyed with the shock drone now?
>>
>>154722418
I can see them limiting the shocks on her first drone. We'll see after a few weeks.
>>
>>154722418
Yes, but it takes more than one hit. The team would have to be deaf to not hear you trying to destroy it.
>>
Is it true that now if you were to kill the hostage you get instakicked no matter what?
>>
>>154723045
>Killing the Hostage is now considered to be multiple team kills.

Its in the patch notes bro, its laid out very well and easy to read.

http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/updates/skullrain/reinforcements.aspx
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>>154722379
sod off argie
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>>154722379
F O O K I N

L A S E R

S I G H T S
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I now see 50 mobility on all guns in the game. Is this a bug, or now all weapons have a same ADS speed? Also, alot of guns now have different stats. Bandit smg now 900*34, Jager ar is 42*740.
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>>154723515
not sure, never actually check the stats seriously since they're usually off or plain old uninformative
also panzermeido is the hero we need
>>
>>154721668

Except for on the G36C. For some reason, it makes the recoil which was supposed to be pretty much non-existant post-patch into something that fires like the LMGs in Red Orchestra 2. It's wildly uncontrollable.
>>
>>154674817
I always find myself to be the only one to do it. A victory feels good so I sure as heck am going to shoot ceilings and go apeshit.
>>
>>154721668

Pretty confident that the muzzle brake is not working as intended.

Expect a hotfix or another smaller patch soon?
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>>154723515

The in-game stats are definitely fucked since the new patch.
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>Mfw same height as Rook
P-Pass those plates around g-guys
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>>154724492
I feel your pain
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>>154724186
In the history of siege there hasn't been a hotfix - Ubi wants patch parity with consoles, which means no updates for another month or more.

I mean ffs a few patches ago Thermite was absolutely useless

The muzzle brake is way too powerful but I guess we're just going to have to deal with it
>>
>>154724492
If it makes you feel any better, his model's not that short.
>>
>>154725061
What about the 3.3 hotfix for mute?

Also I've been reading posts of other hotfixes also.
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>>154725061
>literally just hotfixed the game to remove surrender bug
>>
>leave the game a while ago.
>still come here for shit and giggles
>attackers now have mines
Tell me they buffed kapkan trap
>>
>>154725654
kapkan traps are less visible, but still a bit useless imo, give kapkan 5 traps and then we're talking

same goes for castle and frost, specially castle
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>>154725507
It took a week for that one, and it should've been an easy serverside fix considering the new graphic was already there

>>154725614
>hotfix
how long was the surrender bug? Two weeks? Three?
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>>154724492
I'll pass the plates! they're $50 each front/back plate and $25 each side plate.
That's how much my set of plates for my plate carrier were anyway.
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>its another "teammates cant pick an angle and watch it" episode
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>>154681048
>Comeback Victory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0pWejAnLUQ
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Break or extended barrel on P90?
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>>154728237
mp5
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>>154728237
Get barrel if you're retard who wants to use P90 to shoot on long distance.
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>>154728237
>break
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>>154728662
there's an extended barrel for the mp5?
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>>154729808
muzzle brake, which makes it even more OP

serioulsy, its a fucking automatic railgun now
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>>154729895
oh my goodness, I'm going to buy that barrel first thing tomorrow
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>>154730137
He's lying anon, the P90 is better with its heavy barrel.
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extended barrel is trash, anybody that would use it over muzzle is a moron
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>>154731073
barrel isn't trash, muzzle is just beyond overpowered. granted it's so widely distributed that it's a very manageable broken attachment by just also using it, but they're gonna have to nerf it if they want any of the other 4 barrels to ever see the light of day
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>>154731268
barrel is literally trash
>>
Does this game support 21:9? Considering a monitor upgrade but i can see the fov increase being op as fuck.
>>
>1 claymore
or
>3 breach charges
I don't play these operators anyway, I'll just leave the one (1) claymore usage to the supports while I use 2 frag grenades.
>>
So how have the impact grenades been? I haven't really gotten a chance to test them out, at the very least they seem like a convenient vault hole maker for bombs
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>>154731751
y'know, I think it might. the menu certainly has about 10 options for aspect ratio so I'd certainly hope it does
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>>154732876
I really appreciate them since I mostly used Nitro for creating surprise flanking options in the middle of a round, so impact nades just allow me to do exactly the same thing, but now twice instead of just once.
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>>154733317
quieter and faster too, no
>RIIIIIIIP [geiger counter noises]
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>>154732876
very balanced. don't do much damage, but are nice for making quick holes

they do bug out sometimes, this is kind of annoying.
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>>154730667
>People still use my image
Feels nice desu, have a new one.
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>>154736417
10/10
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Just returned after playing beta. Which operators do I want?
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>>154736932
Muzzle Brake, with the ability to never miss a shot
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>>154736932
all of them
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>>154737109
Which ones first senpai?
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>>154736932
All of them, but the most underpowered ones and not a high priority are:

>Glaz
>Blitz
>Montagne
>Tachanka
>Castle
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>>154693979

Admittedly, Twitch's drones don't have lights and got faster.
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>Try out Muzzle Brake on Buck's DMR
>Has enough damage to 2-shot down/kill ops and your first 2 shots will have almost non-existant recoil
>Fire rate is actually bretty gud, and it sounds like death
I might actually start using this thing alot more in casual and possibly even ranked. Not having to land headshots is nice coz my aim isn't that great.

Now motherfucking Glaz, on the other hand: (Compared to Buck w/ CAMRS)
>Slower RoF
>SIGNIFICANTLY less damage beyond what, 15 metres?
>Shots to kill only goes down to 1 at maybe 7m or less, in which instance Buck has a fucking semi-auto shotgun strapped to his CAMRS
>No breaching tools
>No frags
>No flashbangs
>Ability to shoot through 2 walls which means nothing since you'll do like 4 damage unless you land a headshot

When in the flying FUCK are they going to buff Glaz? Since this update Buck w/ CAMRS is better in literally every way that's even remotely important.
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>people who crouch up and down rapidly after you heal them
Best feel
>>
Holy shit this patch. This is the first time I feel like Ubisoft didn't fuck up anything.
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>>154674817
I just go around firing two shots into the heads of any enemies on the ground like a real operator.
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>>154713669
>my request came through
you absolute madman
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>>154738676
they may have made twitch too damn good, thermite isn't le breachy man anymore and Ash is even more valuable now with 4 breaches
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>>154709020
I can't seem to use it with the Jägers 416 and Bucks C-8 both jump to much around even in burst fire, it works pretty good on the C-9 and the UMP
>>
>Buck with CAMRS and Muzzle Brake
this guy's a better Glaz
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>>154738098
Is heavy barrel not available for Glaz's gun? Also he's one of the OPs who got claymores, which in his case have some interesting potential. Not saying a buff wouldn't be desired, but he's not horrible.
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>>154736417
good shit
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>>154739008
>Wanting Thermite to maintain his almost 100% pick rate

To be honest I'm totally okay with him being less crucial. Ash is whatever, and Twitch is a little better but honestly her Drones are easy to deal with if you have someone on drone duty

I don't even put up my wall reinforcements until the prep phase is almost over cause I'm drone hunting with pump shotty Doc. Shooting that shocks done is like punching Twitch in the ovaries and it feels great.
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>>154739264
And hell if you REALLY don't want to deal with twitch just pick mute and put down jammers. Just go near where they're gonna breach and put down a jammer near your spot and she can't flush you out.
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>>154738676
The only significant fuckup was making Muzzle Brake mandatory, and that's not nearly as bad as BB's 800 health shield or Valk's old shotty-sniper.

>>154739184
For reasons unknown, Glaz, the person who would be the most obvious beneficiary of Heavy Barrel, does not get to have it. I assume Ubi is concerned about making the designated sniper character too strong
>>
>>154739184
The OTS did not get access to the Extended barrel, but even if it had, they said in the patch notes it was "10-20% better damage falloff at range" which in Glaz's case would mean he'd still be absolutely trash-tier. Seriously, his entire gimmick is being the only operator in the game with a true long range rifle, but it's damage at range is among the worst in the game.
>>
>>154663373

They pretty much suck. I threw one directly into an enemies face, then threw the second one right next to him and he still had 10 or 5 hp left.
>>
>>154739628
To be fair, they aren't really supposed to be used on enemies. They're for making murder holes and escape routes quickly.
>>
almost got another 25000 renown.
Caveira? Capitao? Frost? Blackbeard?
>>
>>154740097
Capitao is fun, and with the Black Beard nerf he's the best DLC op in my opinion.
>>
>>154740097
Caveira and Frost are niche defender picks, frost less so. Capitao and Blackbeard are among the best defenders in the game, even if blackbeard got nerfed.
>>
>>154718121
my girlfriend is really kinky, I could probably get her to agree to doing this to me with her friends
>>
>>154670219
Bro Doc here, I like healing guys on my team when they're halfway their health or when there's not much time left.
That little rapid crouch they do after I heal them is a cute little sign of gratitude and it feels great.
>>
>>154740573
No one cares
>>
>>154718767
Just sell steam cards. every card is worth 10 cents minimum.

Get idle master and just let it run overnight then sell all the cards in the morning and then use that to buy ubi shekels.
>>
New thread when?
>>
>>154741341
when the thread hits 750 posts
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>>154741651
Do it now, fagtron.
>>
>bank
>ranked
>bomb
>buddy and I are grouped with clantard-triplets
>first round everyone's quiet, markers are enough to scrub the floor with the enemy team
>attack round starts with my eardrums being blown the fuck out, because one of them must have eaten his mic or something
>he demands the defuser in a mixture of vitalislav accent and THX noise
>my buddy has it
>made the mistake to spawn with them
>after giving him .74 seconds to consider, one of them shoots him
>tusken raiders invade via VoIP

Why are these fags allowed to live, but little Timmy is infested with worms that eat his eyeballs from the inside?
>>
maybe it's my fault for trying to play at 10am on a Wednesday but 15 minutes in queue so far

>1:25 estimated
>>
>>154742514
If you don't find a match after a minute back out and try again
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>>154740649
I care, anon
>>
>>154742941
it keeps dropping me in the same lobby with the same dudes
>>
anyone know what that intel realsense shit is about in the options?
>>
>>154743491
It's for streamers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH_Ii-633H0
>>
>>154658341
>https://imgur.com/a/rVmZG

The "Am aktually woman all along, yes" drawing is missing
>>
p90 is 10/10 right now
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Have a Fuze, anons
>>
>>154740737
that takes ages now because you have to get 2 hours of gameplay in a game before you get card drops
>>
>>154744841
>tfw going braindead and accidentally Fuzing immediately when I see a Castle wall
>hostage was in that room
Well that hasn't happened in a while
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>Muzzle break on CAMRS
>Muzzle break on pistols
What the fuck is this attachment.
>>
>>154658626
Its buffed takes 3 shots instead of 4 now
>>
>played 8 ranked games over the past 2 days
>every match has been on Yacht
>it's turned off in match preferences

I feel like I'm in some kind of fucking purgatory and losing my mind
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Thought of this last night while playing plane and finished it today
>>
Im still drawing chanka+thatcher fishing and glazross. But id like to ask beforehand what character we collectively hate the most. (Males only). From this request you can guess what is coming later. Whover gets the most votes will be feautured in an extra special edition.

Anyway im off to draw, see you guys in 3-5-8 hours.
>>
>>154744841
Thanks man, Fuze is my favorite! I just really wish I wouldn't be so awful at using his gadget.
>>
>play eus for months because euro's are assholes
>go back to default server to see what's up
>mvp 12 games in a row by a wide margin
Do euro's just suck? Does the 50 extra ping really fuck me up that much when I play us?
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>>154745538
Nice
>>
What the hell /r6g/ ever since this update my kd and w/l has been ever falling. I had a 1.32 kd in ranked two days ago and was at a rising trend. The second the update hit I started doing worse and worse. I'm now at a 1.28. None of my ops I usually play were changed majorly, but I just lose every firefight i'm in now. I shoot people get headshots and shit and still lose.

Anyone experience the same? This is frustrating as I was literally one game from plat 3. Now I can barely hold on to plat 2
>>
>>154745538
Nice good to see so many drawfags delivering OC
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>>154745538
>>154744841
Excellente
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>>154679679
meh, i liked the nitro better. such a fucking shame ubi always forces their decisions on us, instead of letting us decide.

>thermite without grenades
>thermite without breach charges
>instead they try and force the fucking smoke grenade on him
>>
>almost time for a new thread again
Jeez this general got a lot more popular hasn't it? Or was it the new patch? Yeah probably that never mind.
>>
>>154746334
Yeah wtf why do they keep taking away thermites nades? I'd rather have flashbangs than smokes and I'd rather have frags than flashbangs. Why don't they just take away his primary, and secondary gadget and just leave him with his pistol to make playing thermite feel even more like a chore.
>>
>>154746506
Free weekend + Skull Rain update helped a lot
>>
>>154746654
I meant his primary gun of course. Thermite should just be as boring as possible because his pick rate is TOO high.
>>
>>154745618
gameplay wise I hate Castle most

in general though, Pulse. I just bet he's a genuine proper cunt. if RAINBOW had a barbecue, Pulse would bring nothing but the cheapest packet of sausages and then fin beers for the entire night, get shitfaced and grope IQ because "German girls are easy"
>>
>>154746746
It's weird because it's not like you can curb his pick rate since he's the only one who can breach reinforced walls.

They need to introduce someone with a thermal lance or something if they wanted to curb it.
>>
>>154746746
>>154746654
>make only man able to destroy a reinforced wall
>wonder why he is critical to breaching
>>
>>154745618
I hate bandit, but that's because I hate bandit players.
>>
>>154746654
>People still complaining about the devs getting rid of his frags
He was a one man army. Why bring Thatcher when he was able to throw a frag through a drone hole to eliminate jammers and shock traps?
>>
>>154747305
bandit brings the drugs to the cookouts and after-mission parties, you can't hate him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkLUOuE_-5I
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>>154745683
I've noticed most of my fuse kills come from planting the device above objectives and stuff, so I'd suggest you walk the maps and get a really good feel for where floors can be broken and whatnot.
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>>154747770
>Tachanka asks where his buff is
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>>154747529
because every mute above rotten wood 2 rank is mindful of shit like this.
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>>154747770
This is so stupid I can't help but adore it.
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>>154747770
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>>154745683
If it helps, this video is always shown whenever someone asks for Fuze tips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTl6G2REkZE
>>
>new thread

>>154748667
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>>154745618
Blackbeard or Jaeger
>>
>>154745618
I really, really hate Jaeger, for the soul petty reason that he kills me a lot
>>
>>154747568
Do Fuzes grenades spit out in a ring around the insertion point if planted on a floor?

couldn't you use him on Hostage if you clustered directly above the hostage?
>>
>>154747770
Fucking perfect, I love that Glaz is always the straight-man.
>>
>>154682267

>60+ hours a week
>Tfw this will never be illegal
>>
>>154749561

His gadget shoots out 6 grenades

2 straight out
2 to the left
2 to the right
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