Fighting Games General /fgg/

SFV is fun desu

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>>154644352
play doa

Daily reminder that sfv is shit.

>tecmo allstars is not a fighting game/smashclone/3d arena versus fighter
retards

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Play BlazBlue.

>>154644609
me on the left

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>>154644656
you are cute as fuck

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>skullgirls
lmaoooooooooo

KOF sucks rofl

>>154644195
I dunno, hundreds. Maybe 600+. Well over 1000 on doa in general if you count each version of the game and the saikyo editions.

>>154644446
>>154644609
What if I already play both?

>>154644841
Best BB.

Is DOA5:LR still active?

>>154645057
Literally skullgirls. If you mean furry shit for sp/a/stics then play dem fightin herds.

>>154645057
Only if it has succubi and vampires.

>>154645084
Somewhat. It's dead on PC though.

>>154645145
>It's dead on PC though.
Agh. Too bad. Thanks anyway.

>>154645106
Skullgirls is garbage tho
>>154645057
Disappointing parents of anonymous from /v/ who post [offtopic shit] fighting game when fighting game when

Will BB be at usa EVO?

>>154645195
No lobbies on PC. It only has ranked match and if you're lucky you might find one or two people that you'll constantly be matched up with.

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>>154644446
if only KT didn't fuck up the PC port

>>154645215
Yes, they'll take out GG and out in BBCF

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>>154645145
>It's dead on PC though.
You think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

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>>154645215
yea

>>154645301
Armpits are the best

neet hours /fgg/ is shit, same generic weeb shitposts and no one plays fighting games and if they do it's kusoge

>>154645301
her titties look like theyre melting

>>154645210
did you have a stroke?

Is Killer Instinct dead?, cant find any matches

Who has a good projectile in kof98?

Does anyone still play +R?

>>154645248
It sucks, but it served it's purpose at least. Giving me DOA in 8K.

>>154645279
Maybe it got a short burst of life because mai just came out. But whenever I try to play ranked online it takes forever to even find a match and if I do it's usually against the same one or two people.

>>154645485
well maybe they should put her in melty blood!!

>>154645462
nice

>>154645575
Good for KOF or good in general?
KOF projectiles are pretty ass, they're only good if your opponent blocks them or in unblockable setups.

Robert has a good one and so does King.
If you play UMFE then Geese too since both versions of Reppuken are a big wall of fuck you to anyone standing in poke range

>>154646010
Oh and Heidern's is amazing.

>>154645279
Are you a fucking retard or just pretending?

The average player count has been <100 for almost a year

And the vast majority of those people are in single player not online

>>154646371
The only retards are the /v/tards that can not for the life of them use the english lannguage correctly. The game still has players even online even with the butchered port.

>>154646585
Dead kusoge kys

skull girls sucks

everyone just holds up

https://twitter.com/KBradJStorm/status/775694196833341440
What did he mean by this

>>154646671
America doesn't know shit about good fitan.

>>154646671
That SF4 is fun and SF5 is garbo

>>154646671
sf5 is turning out to be a great game!

>>154646010
98 projectiles are very good compared to other KoF games. Even groundsparks have huge hitboxes.

>>154647185
Compared to other games though?
huge whiff animations and a wealth of options to avoid them.

>>154646585
Kys desu

Street Fighter 5.

>>154647764
t. ono from hell

>>154647278
13, 2002, 2002UM.

>>154647764
2bh? lmao.

>>154647798
What point are you trying to make here?

>skullgirls autist still triggered by sfv in 2016
LUL

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>>154647764

>>154648025
I dunno, I can list other games too, they're bad compared to ST fireballs but that's pretty much it.

Don't play SFV

>>154647764
fun game

3S > A3 > SFV > A2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SF4 > shit > ST

>>154648232
put sf5 next to shit and i agree

>>154648158
They're bad compared to Capcom fireballs and anime fireballs and pretty much any game with fireballs.
That's what I like about them, not useless but need to be used carefully.

>>154645515
that game is fucking awful.

>>154648232
3s isn't fun

all the characters are stupid

>>154648330
What's awful about it?

>>154648232
shut the fuck up redblade

>>154645515
No but the matchmaking is kind of ass sometimes because >Microsoft

>>154648368
the only really truly dumb characters are chun yun and to a lesser extent makoto

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Does anyone know if Capcom is going to continue to release characters for SF5 or are they going to shit out Urien and 2 more characters and call it quits.

>>154648526
chun is just strong all around, makoto is properly dumb

>>154648553
If they're not stupid they will but they've got a sick OS going where they didn't actually announce anything.

>>154648613
>chun is just strong all around
no that's ken
chun beats most of the cast with 3 buttons and a throw, can do 50+% with 1 bar etc

>>154648553
It's the mainline SF game so why would they stop lmfao?

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September 17
10:25 to 11:05 – Street Fighter V Special Stage – Featuring Tomoaki Ayano (assistant producer) and guest Kazunoko (pro-gamer). Come see the true ability of the Capcom Tour 2015 champion! There may be some new information, too!

September 18
15:00 to 15:30 – Street Fighter V Update Information and Live Gameplay – Featuring Tomoaki Ayano (assistant producer).

Where were you when Capcom redeemed themselves at TGS and are gonna save fighting games forever?

>>154648330
>>154648390
>No response
Anyone else answer for him?

>>154648314
How are 98 fireballs bad compared to anything but ST? Do you only play people who let you reaction roll them and not punish you or something?

>>154648553
they are going to release Urien, announce Super Street Fighter 5 for the low low price of $60 that will include the previous 6 dlc characters and 6 new characters that they finally broke down and made in an attempt to grab back customers. it will also be the only way to get the balance update included when they finally make it

oh and dont forget the SSF5 Season Pass for only $30 dollars, it includes the NEXT 6 characters early that will be out for Ultra Street Fighter 5

>>154649050
But that's just Urien gameplay? I'm more interested into knowing what comes after Urien.

>>154649054
KI is a good game that a lot of people won't give a chance, for some the reasons are more legitimate than others.

>>154649030
imagine that your game is so alive you have to shitpost about other games on /fgg/

>>154649098
>it will also be the only way to get the balance update included when they finally make it
Nope they said that you wouldn't need to buy DLC to get future updates, SFV is a service.
>>154649054
It's a good game but it's pretty niche, a lot of people dislike the combo breaker mechanic.

>>154649150
Coming from SFV i have enjoyed the game, i just wish i wasnt waiting 10+ min for a game
>>154649234
>a lot of people dislike the combo breaker mechanic
Why, i thought it was a good thing?

>>154649323
A lot of people don't understand the depth of combo/counterbreakers/resets as a mindgame and some don't like how a hitconfirm will basically turn your punish into a mixup instead.

>>154648368
That's exactly what makes it fun.

>>154648709
that sounds like what ken does as well

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>>154649198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxG8Scso_fE

there is no point playing gg if youre not a japanese arcadeboar t b h, play bb instead it's a better game

>>154649484
Playing RPS to see how much damage your combo does is the opposite of depth.

>>154649730
I really hate this "RPS = depth" meme

>>154649730
Fighting games are all glorified RPS

>>154649857
Nope not at all because Rock-Paper-Scissors has perfect balance.

>>154649484
I don't get why people have a hard time understanding KI's combo system. It builds off previous KI games and I even understood it as a 12-year old playing KI2 on my N64.

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Someone in the previous thread asked about which games have jumping normals that are not overhead

Every j. A normal for C-Moon and H-Moon characters in melty blood does not hit overhead. Also F-Seifuku if an exception for F-Moon and hers doesn't hit overhead either.

I'm not an expert with uniel but I think it has some fuckery where jumping moves are only overhead if you're coming down from a jump and not if you're rising.

>>154649948
>Implying
Scissors is sleeper OP

Capcucks have killed this general.

>>154650001
Because it is not by capcom. The western fgc instantly goes into a numb baby state worse than every 12 year old on mobas. Floe trying smash 4 was the prime example of this when he completely ignored all his own advice he made some days before for his youtube series.

>>154650023
That was me, that makes a lot of sense given those games' systems.

>>154650116
reminder: smash is not a fighting game

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>>154648896
dont know, was just wondering if Capcom had said they are going to continue to support their game with new characters/updates like Killer Instinct or if it was just going to be a couple of DLC then dead game.

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>>154646010
what le heck, projectiles in kof are not bad at all

they're not in 2k2 and people say 98's are even better so...

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>>154648314
Only universal answer for A fireball from Athena is to read it and do a pre-emptive jump. If you jump or roll it on reaction, you are going to eat a punish.
You can also block it and defend against the mixup but that's way better than the usual fireball.
Most fireballs can be jumped on reaction in SFV for example.
Groundsparks are a bit worse but even they have so ridiculous hitboxes that hopping over them requires very specific timing which the opponent can react to.
In newer KoF games the hitboxes are much worse (except for specific characters like 2002 vanilla Athena) so you have much harder time reacting to when the opponent is going to jump/hop/roll it.
In SF4 you are pretty safe if you focus absorb fireballs until you get to jump distance where you can jump on reaction.

>>154650608
>Only universal answer for A fireball from Athena is to read it and do a pre-emptive jump.
Roll?

>>154650023
The new Touhou fighters HM and ULiL don't even have overheads.
>>154650897
Have fun eating st.C every time.

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100% sure LTG has a mental disability.

>>154650961
We were talking about fighting games not kusoj

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Just upgraded my router and connection type. I have 1 ms ping, 30mb download and somewhere around 10mb upload. Very happy with it.

Now can't wait to run One Man Netcode Fighter V with it.

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>>154651047
>people complain about rashid
>negative on literally every single special move
>4 frame normals beat anything he does after and heavy normal or special, except ex mixer

yeah no, he just can't handle constant pressure like the shitter he is

>>154651256
He's not negative on tornado shots though

EX even gives true blockstrings

>>154651256
who isnt negative on every single non-ex special move?

>>154651047
Not as big as you who follows oskill ecelebs.

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>>154644609
What's the point when Mai is unavailable?

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>>154651376
>female character shouldn't do more damage as a male character

>>154651472
>as

here we go, did karin transition?

Light WW: OH -4, OB -7
Medium WW: OH 0, OB -4
Heavy WW: OH 4, OB 1

alright so the heavy one allows for some possible combo followup if he gets it out in time and they are in the corner

ex should be true blockstring, it costs meter

>>154651412
Cammy, Dhalsim, Chun, Ken, probably others

>>154651412
Cammy

>>154651472
She shouldn't do more damage than mr no combo no oki

>>154651552
Nah, I edited my post and forgot to change the preposition. I'm sorry Hans.

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>>154651472
>american website
>the biggest shitposters are the 外人 (japanese for nigger)

>>154651667
The only thing she is safe on is divekicks.
>Vskill
Not a special :^)

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>>154651376
>Alex
>not having big boy damage
LowTierGod once again being dumb

>>154651667
Mate, do you understand the difference between a special and a normal

>>154649857
Not even an 09'er would be dumb enough to believe this so let me guess SFV is your first fighting game?

>>154649857
>Fighting games are all glorified RTS

Fixed.

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>>154651973
The depth comes from how many layers of RPS your game has and how many options there are but at the end of the day it's all mindgames. Things become stupid when one option is much safer to use or counters more options than another.
Nearly every fighting game mechanic can be boiled down to rps.

>>154652293
You might think you know what you're saying but you're a retard and have no idea what you're talking about.

BAD GAMES are easily boiled down to RPS. Games with many timing and spacing elements are exponentially more complex and you're a retard for not recognizing that.

>>154652293
>>154652178
>>154652467
what is RPS

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>>154651973
Attack>Throw>Block>Attack
It's literally RPS.

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>tfw you love 13 but they removed your husbando
Why even bother playing fighting games anymore /fgg/?

>>154652293
>Things become stupid when one option is much safer to use or counters more options than another.
No, that's when things really get interesting, especially once you have multiple of these to choose from with different risk/reward ratios and different kind of rewards.

>>154652505
rote persuasion simulation

>>154652530
It's not because characters differ in the framedata and many developers just can't bring all characters on a similar level.

>>154652467
But spacing is also RPS
anti air, jump, poke

>>154652564
Yeah obviously not taking into account risk reward, simplifying everything down here.

A more correct statement would be
>Things become stupid when one option is much safer to use or counters more options than another with more reward and less risk

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>sleep for 16 hours
>still sleepy
i don't think i'm gonna make it to /fgg/vo

>>154652786
The only solution is death

>>154652786
there's such a thing as oversleeping

>>154652786
16 hours is way too much, no wonder you're sleepy

>>154652583
Play SF1

>>154651413
i dont follow him, saw these and thought they were funny though.

>>154652786
>Sleep for 100 year
>Die

Shit

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What did you get Pigia for her birthday?

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>>154651047
Typical Nash main.

>>154652703
Nah, if every option would be the same if you consider the risk/reward only the mindgames would devolve into a simple RPS.
Differences from risk/reward ratio is the main way the better player gets the edge in situations where reactions don't matter.
Good games mix this up with the positioning and meter changing these values on the fly.
When you are at the jumpin range in SF4, throwing a fireball has a way worse risk/reward than just throwing out a fast poke. Outside the jumpin range the situation is reversed.
Even if the option is almost always worse than other options if you just consider risk/reward, such as ground throws in Melty Blood, having it in game allows you to tilt your opponent.
Counterbreakers are always worse than just continuing your combo from straight up risk/reward perspective in KI, btw.

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Does anyone want to play a fighting game?

I think it would be really fun.

>>154653636
sure as long as it isn't melty SHIT

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>>154653675
I can play kof 2k2/2k2UM, USF4, XRD PC

>>154653834
nvm

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>>154653849

why does brick use the same 10 pictures over and over

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>>154653849
lmao wrecked him, damn near killed em

>>154654025
because he's a normalfag retard pc*uck

>>154654029
>valle_scouting_new_warriors.gif

wow XIII Vice's voice is shit

>>154653556
>More reward and less risk
Aka, if you eat 5 rocks 1 scissor will still put you out on top.

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>>154653834
I'd play xrd or ultra

Who here /JohnnyTwoSweeps/ ??

>>154654406
Let's play XRD since no one ever wants to play that

>>154654484
bitchmade name desu

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YATTA!

>>154654332
Yeah, for example in Melty the situation is that the opponent is pressuring you in the corner and you are looking for a jumpin/IAD you can shield.
You can eat like 4 throws until the decision to try to react to a jumpin/IAD was so bad that it offsets the reward from one successful shield.

>>154654615
yeah but my sol combo does 90%

>>154654406
i want sf4 to be the main game again. fuck sf5's slow ass walkspeeds and 0 confirms from counterpokes / whiffpunishes

>>154654686
Sol is too easy for me, man.

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>>154654615
>all that work for 145 damage

>>154654406
Don't bully Hugo

Will learning Zato turn me into a god in other fighting games?

It's fucking crazy how much execution he requires. One requires presses, the other requires NE. The only way to move Eddie without special moves is to crouch walk him.

I feel like if I master Zato, every other fighting games will be a joke.

>>154654764
Ram's corner pressure/oki is retarded enough to make up for it

>>154654764
Gotta pay the price for unreactable left/right mixups in the corner.

>>154654692
>i want to play with invincible backdashes and focus attack
Yeah no, vanilla sfiv had shit input delay too wait till they fix it in v

>>154654615
Man, ASW makes some bullshit characters. Ram in SIGN 1.0 and Kokonoe CP1.0 were dumb as fuck. When they got normalized, almost everyone dropped them. Webms like this makes you realize how little work people put into those characters before.

IM GONNA POST PORN OF BLAZBLUE CHARACTERS SO YOU MUST PLAY IT

>>154654873
Learning Zato will turn you into a Zato player. Thats it.

>>154654873
You will never master Zato, you will be just another random scrubby Zato

>>154654615
that's some rashid tier damage in an anime game, i guess thats why you never see that character

>>154654873
Yes. See you next EVO.

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>>154654990
Kokonoe is still strong in CPE and a lot of people play her.

>>154654951
The hit/hurtboxes will still be fucked, and the constant meaty/throw loop on people's wakeup will never change

yeah focus attack and invincible backdashes are annoying, but even with that shit AND ultras in the game sf4 was a lot more fun
FOR ME

>>154654908
>>154654949
Don't reply to the shitposter.

>>154654951
There's literally nothing wrong with invincible backdashes.

>>154654990
I PUT SHITLOAD OF WORK INTO THAT COMBO!!!!!11 I played Sol my whole life.

>>154654615
>yatta
that combo is garbage dude.

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>>154655178
>There's literally nothing wrong with invincible backdashes.
That's right *tips evo cup*

>>154655110
Far less than before, mang.

>>154654873
not really, you will be good at zato and be comfortable with negative edge in general but that's about it
the biggest thing it could teach you that would carry over to other fighting games is having to learn to block well because of your absolute fucking garbage tier defensive options

>>154655250
Im learning and it was really hard, took me like 30 min to master it. Give me some better combo!

>>154655271
He didn't win because of invincible backdash, he won because of great spacing and Bonchan going full retard in the finals.

How can I tell if someone is mashing buttons during a match?

>>154655037
I'm waiting...

>>154655110
There isn't even 50% of the Kokos there used to be

>>154655271
TopGaren looks very shitty in that pic.

>>154655330
>Give me some better combo!
the game has a combo mode with real ramlethal combos that don't do baby damage, check it out some time

>>154655368
Multiple punches or kicks done in sequence.

>>154655368
look at the replay afterwards and turn on key display

>>154651883
What did he mean by this?

>>154655376
50% isn't "almost everyone"

>>154655442
lmoa

>>154654949
Is it really that good? Ram's mixups look like they end after the 2nd or 3rd coinflip. I look at characters like Venom, Zato, or Milia, and they look like they have an easier time at extending their pressure.

>>154655368
sfv

>>154655539
nice

>>154655448
There is no other corner dust combos in the challenge mode!
>>154655337
>>Bonchan
Wait what?! He plays SF now? His Sol is amazing.

>>154655694
>Now

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>>154654615
>white ram
heretic

>>154655530
More than half means that actually most players dropped her, fag

>>154655442
are you blind? stop disrespecting jonio san

>>154655773
Ram doesn't even deserves the delicious dark skin, she is shit

>>154655773
Gimme some juicy dust combo!

>>154655773
Jesus christ that's stupid

Street Fighter 5.

>>154650023
that was me, and thanks that explains a lot.
because i started with melty and then went to play vsav. melty is definitely where i got the idea that not every j.normal is an overhead.

>>154644609
I wanted to pick up CPE but I don't want to buy the literal exact same game in a few months.

Will people laugh at me if i come to the tourney with a keyboard?

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>>154655541
She gets pretty good stuff in the corner. YRC left / right mixups, and depending on character after that she gets a high / low as well, and this is all safe on block. Also during combos in the corner you have great reset options, and she even has an unblockable (last part of the webm) but it's pretty strict and hard to do. The reason the combo in >>154654615 does only 145 damage is because it's a dust starter and there are no swords in the corner (which give a better combo route)

>>154655928
no you are shit

>>154656035
I'll record you something, I'd suggest learning a wall carry bnb rather than a dust combo though

>>154655694
>There is no other corner dust combos in the challenge mode!
Is this the dust combo shown in -sign-? looks like they updated it then. either way it's super basic.

Redpill me on Windows 10. Should I get it for KI?

>>154656435
Only if they are insecure scumbags and/or your keyboard won't work on whatever system they play on.

>>154656698
No, it'll make you a racist

>>154656680
Yeah its -Sign-. I almost completed all of her challenges, only 3 combos left.

>>154656698
>>>/pol/

>>154656698
It's not great but it's not awful.
It functions well.

>>154656698
Win 10 is disgusting. Trash filled with ads, reduced options and choices user can make and bloated with mobile crap interface. Also filled with microshit spyware.

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>>154656035
keep in mind that especially the first one in this webm is probably not what you should be going for all the time later when you get a better grasp of her but it's what I consider to be the most universal basic good high / low setup for beginners

second combo is for finishing off the enemy at low health, it does a shit ton of damage to enemies during guts because it has so many hits

I'll put notations in next post

>>154657000
Pretty shitty move to lock KI behind Windows 10.

If terry bogard is so cool, then how come he's never top tier?

>>154657000
t. steve jobs ghost

How do I stop may from just mashing buttons
It feels like it's always her turn when theres a dolphin on screen

>>154657000
Dont forget, involuntary resyarts and updates. So make sure you update your laptop before taking it out to locals, like i didnt lmao
Thanks lord microsoft, all i wanted was to play fightcade with my friends

>>154657228
shut the fuck up redblade

>>154657093
He's too cool for top tier

New players usually are in two categories, the ones who mash as much as possible and the ones who hardly press any button. The first one thinks he will land attacks all the time and the second one don't know when to press.
If we tell those two players about frames and intervals we may have two better players using normals at better times.

So If we say: Move X has 30 frames. Usually the players will have a gap after inputting Move X like in the following scenarios:
* New player not pressing anything: Move X(30 Frames)-> Gap(200 Frames) ->Move Y
* New player mashing: Move X(30 Frames) -> Gap (Variable but can be very hight) -> Move Y
* Good mid-player: Move X(30 Frames) -> Gap(20 Frames) -> Move Y
* But if the player knows the correct timing: Move X(30 Frames) -> Gap(0~2 Frames) -> Move Y

Notice the difference and how you properly "Fill the gap".

>>154657228
>It feels like it's always her turn when theres a dolphin on screen
Well that's basically true. You play Sin tho, you can 6p their ass for free and it'll beat everything but 3k.

>>154657228
play ST so you actually understand spacing and not just inside/outside guessing

So was there even a hint that KOF14 will come to PC?

>>154657052
first combo notation is 5D 6 - 5S 5H 6S run closer 5S 6H run closer 5S run closer 5S 2D J2H, then you can go for a high / low with 6K or 2K. it's pretty simple and she has more complex setup but this is a good one to get started with

second notation is the same up until the last 2D, then you just add a 632146H super there, then spam 3K during the super flash to put the enemy in the blender. not a good idea to use this usually unless the enemy is low on life because it has so many hits (builds a ton of burst gauge and heat for the enemy) but it's a great finisher

>>154657454
Wait a year to find out

>>154657375
Do I have to do that pre emptively or after I block something?

>>154657436
>Play kusoge to understand how to play a good game
What did he mean by this?

>>154657535
At that point I will play Tekken 7.

>>154657454
"Console Exclusive" tag and not "PS4 Exclusive"
Way back the Atlas site had a listing for a steam version.
98 and 2k2 were said to sell really well as well as XIII.

if it get hit with another random dash foward unga....

>>154657454
Why would you want this shit game?

>>154657638
what, are you the same redblade who used to hate on guilty gear constantly?

>>154657228
May is a scrub destroyer but garbage at mid/high level, are you a scrub?

May is free to anti airs, she has no real pressure outside of beachball shenanigans and is made of paper.

>>154657779
Yeah its just that he dislikes a game if he is not good at it. After he started winning he started liking it, pathetic.

>>154657754
I literally only have SFV to play on PC. I'm not a hater, I like SFV, but I want some variety.

>>154657779
Yeah, it's going to be really funny when he eventually says he hates every game that isn't ST since all he does is complain about it now

>>154657814
>May is a scrub destroyer but garbage at mid/high level, are you a scrub?
Yeah, I just started playing seriously about 2 weeks ago

>>154657858
Except I lose a lot on gg too, but at least it's fun and I'm learning. Sane thing with A2, I'm bad at it but enjoy it.

>>154657858
>>After he started winning
He never won a single game from me, lul.

>>154657454
Sony has them by the balls and snk/atlus are not very known for their consumer friendly tactics. They gonna keep quiet even with the giant tag on the cover till sony bought time is over.
>>154657676
Exactly. At that point I won't care anymore, same for ggxrdr or a fixed doa5 port.

>>154657638
preemptively

>>154657908
Fightcade nigger jesus

>>154658210
that sounds like a good album name desu

>>154657953
But ST is garbage.

>>154658210
Last time I played Street Fighter Turbo on Fightcade it was really laggy and the lobby was full of BR. What are the most active fighters on fightcade anyway?

>>154658294
You're garbage so I guess that makes the two of you a perfect match

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>>154658294
>losing to cammy as akuma

>>154658252
I'd buy it.
Get on it Turbo T.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uIBRApifR4&app=desktop

>>154658360
kof 2k2
kof 98
3rd strike
ssf2xj
in that order

>>154658379
You couldn't beat me in any game I actually play besides GG maybe, because I just started. Play me in 3s or V.

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You have 30 seconds to justify having to FD cancel your run to block instantly

>>154658502
Isnt 98 more populated than 2k2?

>>154658624
so you cant dash and mash

>>154658571
You don't actually play either of those games, and if the games you play are so much better surely you could win in a bad easy game like ST
>>154658461
Oh wait lmao

>>154658502
Since I can't play the new KOF anyway I may as well try out 2k2.

>>154658624
it costs meter.

>>154658682
I do though, you're just scared to see me in them.

>>154658802
You're scared to see yourself in the mirror

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>>154652530
vsav

I wish Akiha was my sister...

>>154658667
You can, you just need to do more finger gymnastics

>>154658789
It's almost no meter though

>>154658732
You can also look at steam and find more fighting games like the best version of kof13.

>>154658904
about as much as you gain from dashing in.

>>154658015
>started playing seriously about 2 weeks ago

*Anti Airs blow up dolphin rides and j2h

*jumping out of pressure (barrier) is easy

*extended hitbox on js, jh, j2h makes air grabs easier

*neutral beach ball and dolphin summons are slow enough to attack her on reaction unless she yrcs

*her only DP costs 50% meter and is easy to bait

Lads I really enjoyed playing the singleplayer of Soul Calibur on the dreamcast in the past. Are there any other fighting games as fun in singleplayer?

>>154658904
The green flash also telegraphs you easier. Its the reason why instead of doing run break into FD and throw, its sometimes preferable to instead stop your run just little early so that your character slides across the floor a tiny bit and at the end of that animation your run has stopped and you can throw without the green flash telegraphing you slightly.

>>154659102
Tekken

>>154659102
The entire soul calibur series before 4, all emulated well.
Melty Blood ReAct has a VN hybrid that is pretty fun.
Melee and Brawl.
Mortal Kombat 9, x and Injustice.

>>154659007
Aren't most fighting games on steam pretty dead? Some are also not on the newest version like consoles have like MKX.

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Why is it that an indie company is so much more competent at making fighting games than the giants that have doing it for 25 years? Embarrassing, really.

>>154658571
>"You can only beat me in games I don't play you idiot, doesn't mean anything"
>"Now play me in games you don't play, this will prove my skill"

You're sick in the head

>>154659326
Maybe you should play good games then instead of garbage like ST.

>>154659435
You're not good enough to criticize ST, you are far too awful at it to understand the game.

>>154659140
That's really wrong, no way you can react to a proper fd break throw. It's a read.

>>154659435
Name 1 real 3s player you can beat you aren't allowed to call it good until you can do that

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>>154657478
>>154657052
Thanks man. Pretty easy so far. I never see this kinda combos from mikado pros though.

>>154659292
Bigger studios are more limited in their freedom since their bosses are the money guys that don't give a fuck about video games.

>>154659292
Eh? Skullgirls is bad and almost entirely composed of ripped off ideas.

>>154659517
>you need to be a top player to understand why ToDs, rng, and other things are bad
(You)

>>154659607
Man the game looks good. Am I wrong for disliking anime fighters? The self doubt is real.

can i play as jubei yet

>>154659837
No, play whatever you want. Japan doesn't even differentiate between traditional and anime fighters.

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>>154659517
>its a piss post

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>>154659805
Your words, redblade

>>154659805
You should drop Xrd right now then retard

You should drop SFV too since a game with 8f input delay can't ever be a real competitive game and is more of a real problem than any half-baked complaint you have about another game

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>>154659607
Honestly, i suggest people to actually learn to play the game before focusing on combos. But most anime players just focus on grinding combos and then they can't do jackshit on a real match because they don't even know how to properly move with their characters.

>>154659252
They are as alive as you make them. MKXL comes to steam next months with a new balance patch but even now it has 500 players online still. Xrd is sadly outdated but also has active lobby play(for eu at least).

>>154660070
just let people do what they want. combos are fun and instant reward, you can't magically win neutral however so practicing combos gives the illusion of progressing fast.

>>154660070
It's the other way round for me in anime desu

>>154659292
You're not welcome here, Mike. Piss off.

>>154660070
I love combos, man! Thats how i started with GG #Reload, amazing hardcore japanese combos kept me interested in it for 4 years.

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>>154659292
1. MikeZ actually cares about the genre.
2. It's not made by a japanese who are all stuck 20 years in the past.

>>154660070
Probably because of how much more important maximising damage is in animes

>>154659607
This is when you realize that the Japanese players aren't gods.
I learned this lesson from watching Melty Blood matches.
Many players have their own way of playing which makes them do unoptimal stuff out of convenience or muscle memory.
Emulating good players is a good start but if you figure out something that is better than what they do you should include it in your play.

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Is SFV more competent than Skullgirls?

>>154660498
Jesus christ and rkappa makes fun of melee gods worshipping.

>>154660495
Im pretty sure top tier Japanese players are gods.

>>154660498
define competent

>>154660339
>Probably because of how much more important maximising damage is in animes
But maximasing damage is more important in SF, especially V. I only know of very few players who always aim for the max damage combos in anime and they're usually not the ones who win.

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>>154660339
You are not maximizing shit when you can't even confirm random hits on the fly, don't know how to defend yourself, open your opponent or your best movement options. I've seen a lot of players at my locals that are only good at doing combos in training mode.

>>154660589
I think you missed that period in time where Tokido landed demons nearly every single match he played.
Shit was ridiculous.

>>154660670
There are way way more players who have 0 neutral but can autopilot optimal combos playing anime games than the reverse.

Anime games heavily reward damage optimization and setups neutral is a pretty minor part of them until you get to the highest level of play.

>>154660641
Nah not really, in most games that aren't V you can get away with simple DP punishes or what have you for a long time.
However in anime if you can't confirm your counterhits into huge damage or setups you're gonna have a bad time.

Maybe maximising was the wrong word

>>154660761
>skullgirls

Stopped reading there

>>154660761
Nigger you aren't going anywhere when you still continue fighting games. This is the fighting games general and not the SF general.

>>154660708
It's a move that can hit and he used setups for it. You sound worse than a melee fanatic.

>>154660850
What am I reading

>>154660856
>maybe maximising was the wrong word
So confirming then? Sure now I can agree, but confirming is something that comes with playing a lot. No way you can cover every situation that can happen in a match in the training mode.

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>capturds once again shitting on the ntire genre by calling every 2D fighting game 'anime'

>>154647185
dude you're garbage at kof who the fuck would believe what you say

>>154661050
Wow, rude.
See me in KoF13.

>>154660850
>btw i'm one of those hardcore training mode players
kek

>>154660892
No he was mainly using it as a whiff punish and interruption.
Shit's got 0 invincibility and is jumpable.

Maybe you're missing the parody?

>>154661037
Yeah? Well you're anime. Now what, faggot?

>>154661037
Anime fighters are garbage my boy.

>>154659607
I think as a beginner the most important thing to learn is 5S (2D) 623P (green version) PK PK (KP) PP P, you need to put small distance dashes in between each of these steps. If you are close enough to the corner you can at any point stop the combo and just do the PP P to get a walldash quicker, it makes the scaling smaller on the actual hard hitting attacks like 5S and 5H so the combo overall does more damage even with less hits.

I might post some more combos later but I'll eat at this point

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>>154661106
>13

>>154661037
Don't be retarded, everyone knows what anime is.
Do we have to say airdashers so as not to offend your autism or something you retard goober

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>>154661223
Anonydodge strikes again

>>154661130
sfv is literally a slow anime game

>>154659252
You have to remember that fighting games will never be popular on PC as long as consoles exist.

Fighting games are as a rule nowhere near as popular as most other genres. They encourage competition, which IS popular in vidya these days, but the barrier to entry is intimidating at first glance to the average gamer. There's a reason why games like Smash get so many more players overall compared to, say, GGXrd, and it ain't because there are Nintendo characters. Smash is easy as fuck to get into. Sure, with practice, you can do stuff that only people willing to put in the practice will understand and be effective with... but you can say that about any other fighter. The average fighting game is not made for quick throwdowns between casuals.

PC gamers don't care about things that have execution barriers. Why else would 100 MILLION people be playing LoL as opposed to literally any other game ever? Not only do fighting games demand practice and dedication to even begin having any fun, they are also not pushing any graphics hardware anywhere near their limits, so you lose out on the large and vocal PC MASTER RACE crowd who only care about their 700 dollar GPUs and 4k monitors.

Fighting games offer nothing to the average PC gamer, and that is why so few people buy and play them on Steam. If you actually want to play a fighting game against people who are there to learn and get better at the game, pick up the console of choice and play the fighter there, rather than wasting your money on PC.

>>154660850
>Anime games heavily reward damage optimization and setups neutral is a pretty minor part of them until you get to the highest level of play.
That's how i know you're a complete scrub. Is ok as long as you have fun i guess

>>154661317
if i used my name you would have run away in fear boyo

>>154659292
>will-it-blend, the game
>good

>>154661415
>it ain't because there are Nintendo characters
It kind of is, to a degree.
All those smashclones keep failing for a reason.

>>154661415
Crossplay fixes all the problems without needing a console.

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anyone sfv/kofxiv eu?

>>154661710
See me in KoF13.

>>154661769

ok

>>154661428
Don't fool yourself. It would be great if neutral was a big part of anime games but until everyone is optimized having more damage and better setups will carry you way farther than any neutral knowledge will.

>>154661646
Crossplay is a mistake because you cannot count on PC gamers to not do their level best to fuck with a game on a level that consoles cannot to give them advantages over console players.

PC gamers have more intimate access to any game on a mechanical level than you can on a console, and that's just asking for issues.

Then there's the average PC gamer. If 4chan is anything to go by, I'd want nothing to do with any PC gamer in any 'crossplay' title.

reminder to always play fighting game where they belong. offline.

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Boy im about to do it

>>154661923
Where did the PC gamer touch you anon

>>154661923
Baseless fears. You would expect this kind of thought of some facebook user. I have never encountered a single cheater in SFV and even if I had, who gives a fuck, it's a fighting game, a match is over in 2 minutes.

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lmao blazblue added elena as a guest character

>>154662112
>Baseless fears.

Look at a game like The Division. PC gamers have no self control; if there is a way to exploit a game and ruin the experience for other players, not only will they be quickest to take advantage of it, they are also the quickest to try and absolve themselves of any responsibility for their actions.

SFV is relatively locked down compared to The Division, which is hardly the highest hurdle to climb. I'm not surprised you haven't encountered too many cheaters that you are aware of though, anon-kun, seeing as how practically nobody plays the game on PC anyway.

>>154661415
>they are also not pushing any graphics hardware anywhere near their limits, so you lose out on the large and vocal PC MASTER RACE crowd who only care about their 700 dollar GPUs and 4k monitors.
You can't say that after gloating that LoL has 100 million people playing it and not any other game that requires more computing power than a current gen smartphone

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>>154660589
It's a reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFXWJpuI2t0

>>154662316
>SFV is relatively locked down
It was so open that people knew the 6 characters ever since beta 2. Look at Tekken R if you want to see how honest consoleros are.
>responding to sonyggers baiting

>>154662316
>SFV is relatively locked down compared to The Division
No anon. People are playing as Urien right now. You call that locked down? They straight up don't give a shit, don't you dare defend Capcom by comparing SFV to a massively(ish) online game.

>>154662349
I count those as entirely separate crowds. LoL is the ultimate casual bait that happens to have a meta game strong enough to cater to spergs who make more money than the rest of us do just playing this game exclusively.

The PC MASTER RACE crowd is entirely separate from that. They buy hundreds of games on steam, play each of them maybe for ten hours before buying the next one. They sometimes gravitate towards the next big graphical showcase and use it as evidence for PC's ultimate superiority, and then they proceed to play that game even less than the average console player does their version.

>>154662297
why is every bb puppet character an anime archetype and a doll with darkstalker claws

>>154660065
lmao
stick to fightcade netplay please

>>154661891
shh shh is ok anon, keep on grinding those combos, you can even make some fancy CMVs. Just don't cry when you can't take a single round from a mid level player

>>154662316
The Division handled everything clientside which is one of the most bumblefuck stupid things a developer for a multiplayer game can do.

If we're gonna talk about cheating then how about the exploit that allowed you to buy anything in the shop for free, but only on consoles.

>>154662316
I only play fighting games so I don't give a fuck about the online of some shit game. Programmed autopilots, sequencer and all that shit which can be used in a subtle way are way way more common on consoles so I don't see your point. Not surprising since you don't have one.

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redblade is so retarded lol. i beat his akuma with cammy and he has been shitposting about ST ever since.

>>154662598
The same reason every murakumo unit is more or less the same as Nu until Noel got her Original The Character mid-season upgrade.

I got DoA5 on steam today (some people might remember me asking about the player base, which is actually decent enough). So far so good. There's one problem though.
The game runs at like 30% speed while fighting. The menus are fine and all but as soon as the fight intros start it's getting slow. The usual solutions to this are turning off the shadows and AA, but both of these do nothing. I'm running in fullscreen and I've got two other working versions of the game on my PC (that are pirated). It seems like the game is fps locked or something. Does anyone know what might cause this/how to fix it or where I can read up on this stuff? I was very much looking forward to playing.

>dude mustard race is all of pc
What a giant numbskull. PC is huge and the biggest part is mid or even under midrange pcs.