Manual AA OP! Edition
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Sink 4 enemy ships tier 3 or higher. 4 Sund Ships for 90 merit.
> What is this?
Steel Ocean is a multiplayer arcade game focused about warships from World War 2 era.
> Steel Ocean Info
http://en.steelocean.vludus.com/Main_Page <- /WoW ,Does anyone even use this?
http://imgur.com/a/Mf0qp <- more info.
> Steam page
http://store.steampowered.com/app/390670/
> Any way I can play with (You)?
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/UnityThroughSterns
"NA clan: No Botes Allowed"
We have a clan in the game. Find it on the fleet page and then click application button. Post IGN in thread to get accepted.
Also post a meme.
Germany: http://imgur.com/a/TDWY3
Burgers: http://imgur.com/a/Ze1j4
Japan: http://imgur.com/a/MzuNT
British: http://imgur.com/a/i3oFZ
>Commander calculator
An easy way to come up with commander setups without having to deal with the clunky UI. If you have any issues explain them in the thread.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RMoVpgNpWXK3bZ7FnVXf29416Y0L9j-4TmRbTaYO5OM/edit#gid=0
FREE TIER 5 DLC BB(HMS Repulse)
http://store.steampowered.com/app/430110/?snr=1_5_1100__1100
Launch from there, in game go to Claim, then Storage, Non Battle items, click 'use'
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Last Admiral >>154536527
The cutest.
Yodo!
Was looking into basic naval tactics and I ended up at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_T
And then noticed the gif that's now posted here.
And how despite it being very basic tactics, somehow this game has them properly while Warships has broadsides being "A Bad Position to be in".
Just what the hell were they thinking?
>>154613783
Selective realism.
>>154613783
And now you know why certain ships have all their guns on the front, among other variables.
>>154615245
Doesn't this completely fuck up weight balance and usually require creative engineering to overcome?
>>154615359
>Doesn't this completely fuck up weight balance
Yes
>usually require creative engineering to overcome?
If by overcome you mean "can't fire all of it guns" it was overcome. AFAIK, the problem with the nelson was that one of it guns completely fucked everyone in the ship or something like that.
Must have been a damn cute bow.
I do love removing every hope a CV has.
Subjecting his allies to wave after wave of planes until the CV is left the only one remaining.
ded
Don't you die on me again.
>tfw good game as terrible player
>>154620449
What do you mean?
Reminder that Portland, Kaga 1924, Anshan, and some kraut sub are 30% off right now. Be a good goy and treat yourself :^)
>>154620974
Having a match where I do more than 1k damage and actually pick up a few kills!
>>154622164
What tier were you playing?
>>154622721In what class of ship?
>>154622721
Want to stack?
>>154623181Kongou
>>154623358
Sorry, taking a break. I don't play that much anyway.
>>154623697
Well jap BBs do take some getting used to, and if you're new you also need to get comfortable with leading targets and reading movement patterns so that sounds like a nice match you had.
>>154623790
The movement patterns are probably the hardest thing to figure out. A simple turn still gets me 90% of the time
ded
Elderbot has come down from the mountain with a new Q&A from his Chinese overlords
Q: Can we get additional paint styles for both Gold and Standard ships?
A: Yes, we are currently working on additional paint jobs for both Gold and Standard ships.
Q: Can we get the ability to filter ships by tier level?
A: Yes, we are currently working on this ability.
Q: Can we have the following added to Fleet administration:
- A communication page where rules, announcements or events can be posted.
- Additional fleet rank positions.
- An auto-fleet welcome message system, where a message from fleet administration will be displayed in chat as the first message received after a fleet member log's into game.
A: We're in the process of rebuilding the fleet system.
Q:Can you make the Commander Portraits available as official steam avatars so users can show their support in their profiles?
A: I want this too! It has been mentioned months ago; I will push for it.
Q:How do I change the color of the targeting circle?
As a recommendation, can you ask the developers to add in a Color Blind mode?
A: Coming soon! We are almost finished with a tool for this.
Q:This game needs much more advertisement; why are you not promoting it?
A: Sorry; but at this time there is not sufficient funding.
Q:Scenario Mode is a Bust; can we increase award payout to get more players to play it?
A: We agree and the team is looking into how to increase player participation.
Q:Will there be a Soviet fleet/a ship or two added?
A: Of course!
Q:Why dose the Fleet flag cost twice the amount as the Nation flags?
A: Because you can DIY the Fleet flag.
>>154628268
>A: We're in the process of rebuilding the fleet system.
This might the best thing, current fleet system seems like a showcase or a prototype of the finished product.
>Sorry; but at this time there is not sufficient funding.
So that's why...
Everything else is stupid and a waste of questions.
>>154615245
Nelson's design with all turrets forward of the bridge was mostly as a weight saving measure. The Washington Naval treaty halted the construction of the N3 class battleships, (A & B turrets like Nelson's, X Turret was amidships and forward facing, incapable of firing direct aft) and the battleships allowed to the RN were limited to maximum of 35k tons displacement. The battle of Jutland had proven that magazine hits could blow up the entire ship, and so protection was prioritized over the main magazines. Putting all three turrets forward of the bridge meant that they were closer together and so the belt armor could be really thick over a smaller length, saving weight. Similarly the machinery was put at the back for that purpose as well, with the boilers being behind the engines so the engines could fit inside the armored citadel.
>>154628935
Fleets are pretty good in this game desu, look at various MOBAs and FPS and their clan features are extremely lacking, if such a thing even exists at all.
>>154631469
Won't deny that, but what you said doesn't have anything to do with what I said.
Current fleet menu is filled with things that aren't implemented yet, a large part of it isn't available yet in fact, and it's been months like that.
>>154613783
T-crossing being improperly represented in KC triggers my autism.
>>154628268
Interesting...
>>154628268
I've seen the topic of colorblind modes appearing in quite a few vids for this, and other games. And misc social areas (forums, etc)
So if they can get something decent enough working could see it helping.
Does does every CV commander have something related to Dive Bombers? Is this some sort of trick?
At what time does the day reset?
>>154638625
Can't remember if in 1 hour and half or 2 hours and half.
>>154638625
22 minutes from my post
>>154637080
Some British guy once told me that DBs were a thing.
>>154613134
I want to bully her
>>154642364
I've seen plenty of that first hand and they are not a thing
>>154643586
So have I anon, so have I
Bumb
Goodnight /sog/ don't die
>>154642364
No, they're not.
>>154647934
Why not?
>>154642432
yeah,
>>154632647
How is it represented there?
>>154657804
If you T-cross them both sides get buffed damage, if they T-cross you both sides get nerfed damage.
So what's the veredict on bong BCs?
>>154665206
ded
ded
Is an truck an ship?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mVdB-2rvuM
>>154673072
> there are people who have been watching these assholes for over 3 hours
>>154674687
>there are people who have been playing SO for over 1000 hours.
Playing DD is a little more difficult than I thought.
ded
>>154683115
no u
>>154673072
>Watch it late
>Jump back to see the truck
>But the 'current' news is some Yoga teacher who apparently flashed her breasts at a Bar Mitzvah
>Then suddenly Trump Rally outta Nowhere
>>154675223
FB ?
>>154688671
they'll be in an hour and 15m.(6pm PST) Not sure, we'll see
>>154690920
We are 2 on standby.
>>154691398
If I don't fall asleep I'll be on.
welp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft-BPYbUNsU
Legend of the Yukikaze
http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/11154-the-legend-of-yukikaze/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MTzrP6t-Tw
Insane how many sorties she took part in and sailed away from.
>>154695930
Interesting
Man... that feels good.
oh, also a heads up.
No NA FB's today.
No worries, people getting back to uni, work, etc. We'll try again Saturday.
>>154698456
>>154695930
>Signed the order to scrap her
>Doom arises
Woah.
Don't
>>154695930
I fucking hate her face.
>>154701890
>hating cute beaver teeth
>>154702603
>cute
>>154702838
>>154703420
https://youtu.be/mLcYL_TVXMQ>>154703420
You won't fool me.
>>154703420
>queue lafagoy
>elderbot on his goishan in the enemy team
>buttfuck and his boyfriends so hard he thinks I'm cheating
>>154707030
him and his boyfriends*
This is just too good, skill.exe is perfect.
>>154707030
Check'em
tfw
>>154707736
>>154708515
>gassing subs
>deleting chinks
>the fucking community manager thinks I'm cheating
Such a good bote.
>>154707736
>>154717253
>edgy boatgirl
I dont like it.
>>154717910
How would you picture Scharnhorst?
>>154718148
German hyper tomboy.With a dick.
There is the edgy one, this one, and.. a klutz one.
To name a few notables.
>>154718148
Body between Bisko and Prinz, maybe a bit genky because muh speed, graf-like hair.It better have glasses.
alrighty, good night all! See you tomorrow.
>>154718356
Sounds like perfection
>>154707736
This guy only owns prem ships and prem consumables?
>>154721628
He also says you should have 1000 matches before T5
ded
How many people are in No Botes Allowed? Any active low-tier scrubs?
>>154724782
How low-tier are we talking here?
>>154725208
III-Vish?
>>154725382
Well I'm a T6 shitter due to a half year hiatus.
>>154724782
Any high tier veteran is willing to play with low tiers, and I would recommend it too since you can learn from them and also get carried (and don't even feel you are dragging them down, you aren't).
The fleet admiral is notably known for wasting 90% of his time at T4 clubbing baby seals trying to learn the ways of the CV.
>tfw decayed from shiny star rank
>1 kill isn't enough to get top 1000 daily kill rank anymore
Not ded?
>>154728264
ded
Pub's opinion on Königsberg
Seems like translations, content updates and twitter are doing wonders.
I don't expect the game to reach release levels of not ded anytime soon, but there's a clear indication the game is recovering fast.
>>154728935
>35 years
RIP
>>154728935
>noob russia kid
>said to one of our germans
>>154728935
Good shit
And here's the new one, faggots.
>>154730845
hehehe
boat
>Saw chat earlier
>Guy with chinese characters in his name going "This game needs more players"
>Right click him, his fleet isDark Judge
I kind of chuckled and sighed at the same time.
>>154744789
>>154745882
These new people don't know what we did. They've never fought Chinese death stacks. They have seals served to them on a silver platter now.
ded?
>>154749953
Yes.
>Nagato Proto gave out 4k salvos
>Nagato can't pen T6 BBs with max pen gun, 1-2k dmg
What the fuck.
alas groggy it was not meant to be. the memes failed.
they really should bring five-man stacks back again just for shits and giggles
>>154755694
Are you high? Nagato proto is a contender for worst relevant ship
>>154758270
Gib someone with good stats on BBs to measure things.
>>154757898
>Matches with two CV's and 3 BB's
Man those were great times...
Great, hellish times.
>>154757898
>>154762823
When facing a DJ deathsquad meant something.
>>154763417
Yup.
And to top it off, they weren't content with just killing you with a 5 man deathsquad.. they also would have individuals who would queue up at the same time and either do nothing. Or as a spotter if the map had "You can move south, or east" odds are if the DJ 'ally' went south to 'spot', odds were the Deathstack would be coming from the east.
AND ontop of that, the loner would usually be relaying intel of movements through fleet chat.
The new players have no idea how ... interesting those matches were.
And I've been muted again.
And no ban yet.
I'd rather be baned than muted tho.
>>154767254
R.I.P.
ded
I was reading stuff on my second screen while queueing, then noticed the global chat. That was interesting.
ded
ded
D E D
fug should i pick up oyodono on sale?
>>154784398
DO IT FAGGOT DO IT DO IT DO IT
>>154786128
What the hell is that thing?
>>154786128
Beautiful.
>>154788485
Monitors
>>154784398
She can be a fine bote.
Have seen good ones, and bad ones. But that is the same for any ship really.
>>154790504
Neither seen, nor heard of these things until tonight.
Strange.
>>154790873
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monitor_(warship)
Entertaining things.
>>154791982
How utterly bizarre.
fug :DD
>>154792818
Now you know the leader of ATAKE PIRATE is named after one of the greatest humiliations of his country's navy.
No u
ded
dedest
>>154786128
What an awful abortion of a ship
>>154793297
>atake pirata
>relevant
>>154803985
Where in my post did you get the idea I said that fleet is relevant?
In any case, they are still more alive and relevant than NBA, at least in FBs.
>>154805559
>In any case, they are still more alive and relevant than NBA, at least in FBs.
PSA: BC == BB for BB events.
Are CLs fun? Brooklyn is my favorite ship
>>154811213
How would you define "fun"?
>>154811213
>fun
>>154811213
I find the Konigs t5 entertaining. M-class as well.
And they do plan to tweak CL's range a bit so perhaps.
Higher tiers aren't quite as populated so the CL's role (DD killer, plane eater, ASW in a pinch) isn't as easy at it can be at lower tiers.
But with a range buff it could help a bit.
>have good games in my Northhampton yesterday.
>have terrible games today.
>hop into my Benson
>get wrecked.
>>154813263
>Benson
What equipment should I slot onto CVs other than Drop Tank? Range finder?
>>154811213
Königsberg is the best
>>154813263
>Benison
Goodnight /sog/, don't die.
>WoWS x Haifuri collaboration
>>154823489
>botegirls never
>>154811213
Yeah they're fun
>yfw no scout plane
>>154830483
>>154813516
drop tank, rangefinder and the AA Director are three that are free to swap between other ships.
>>154835434
AA director is pretty useful on jap CVs desu.
>>154835434
>>154836326
CVcks are the same level of cancer as subs desu
>>154837178
>not being a CVck
>not manning the only relevant capital ships
>>154837406Only CVs and BBs can hard carry matches in most situations.
>>154838823
I like this saggy Ooyodo.
>Elder picking on obvious newbie in a bucky
Two-faced faggot
>>154839486
What a gigantic faggot
>>154839486
He might be mad over me styling all over him and his fuccbois.
>>154839486
Wait, balls is censored?
>>154839486
Post that on the steam forums :^)
>>154830483
>Ship appearing that close after launching scout
OP NEED NERF!!
>>154755694
git gud
>>154830483
>bote selfystick
>>154845784
>Next Overlord ship when?!?!
That looks like a submarine!
>>154845784
>all that dakka
how goes the wait for 5v5 games fellow commanders...
>>154850540
>logged in
>ded fleet
>logged out
>>154850540
I typed, and out popped a small novel instead of a reply.
>>154851452
>Yahoo Messenger
Good times.
>>154851918
Isn't that MSN Messenger?
>>154851452
>Just a reply
>>154852028
Ah, you're right. Fugg.
>>154855639
>premium never ever
>Some players
ded
>>154867825
Poor T6 seals
>>154867825
So... what ship is that?
>>154868276
>>154867825
Renown
>>154867825
>Gefächts Resultate
I sure hope you didn't work on this
>>154868435
you wont believe just how bad the translation is.
>>154868636
Considering this was unpaid work from people that likely don't even speak english very well, I'll believe it in a heartbeat
>>154869436
not only that but there are people in the team whose first language is neither English nor German
>>154870294
... well then!
>when you see your botefu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bix44C1EzY
GG MM
>>154879630
There are like 4 different languages in that screenshot.
ded
>>154878125
Congratulations.
>SMD the grey
How do you get qualifications other than the set level Events? Is it only by unlocking officers you already have?
>>154892302
misc events,
the daily log in can give qual at a few different days.
Otherwise yeah, rolling commanders you already have.
Go, tell the Spartans, stranger passing by
That here, obedient to their laws, we lie.
>>154878125
>le ebin nuke build soon
>>154893662
>spagget
bumb
>>154893662
Historically accurate Italian gameplay
>>154880534
Through ships, unity
Good night all. See you guys tomorrow!
Witness the power of the IJN!
Just after I bought a goy life gets busy so I can't play for weeks. I swear they're fucking in on this
>>154902712
You should buy some premium time to make up for all the time you couldnt play!
>>154903569
What am I looking at?
>>154903772minimalist loss
>>154902701
>Sea units
>Relevant
>>154903772
Nothing my friend, but make sure you buy that premium to make up for your losses!
>>154905606
Funny how 4 simple triangles can convey a meaning like that.
Don't ded pls
I want tokissSMD
>tfw over 400k ship exp waiting to be exchanged
>Uranami is just a shittier Isonami
Thanks Shitbafu.
>>154910719
Are you even aware that Quick Training exists? How (or why) in the fuck did you save so much ship exp?
>>154911067
My commanders are level 10 mate
>>154911908
Then use the same ships to level OTHER commanders to level 10. Wasting gold on XP is S-Grade stupid.
Is this game pay to win just like WoW?
>>154912216
Think of it this way: you can pay but you don't need to. With enough patience you can earn the prem currency on your own.
>>154912126
Why would I level trash commanders I'll never use? Also I'm not interested in buying a goy and all of the gold smoke :^)
>>154912216
It isn't. Gold (real money currency) can get you:
- Gold ammo (useless, cost too much and the benefits are next to none)
- Gold consummables (you get them for free just by doing anything at all, that includes just logging in. Silver versions of said consummables are equally good).
- Permanent Paint/Flags (Which you can get 7 days versions for little to none silver).
- Commanders (roll a dice and pray to god you don't get a shitty one, lol you got a shitty one) (You also can get them for just playing the game/getting events done).
- VIP Time (no benefit ingame, just 1.5x/2x XP/Silver)
- Gold ships: This is tricky, some gold ships are gimmick ships with weird mechanics like Ooyodo/Ise BBV which could be good in the right hands, some are the best of their kind for their respective tiers, but not for a large margin (one of those was several times nerfed just to get at that level), and some gold ships are trash and are there just so you can have them looking good in your port. None of those can really be used in competitive modes unless you want to be severely crippled (bringing the T6 Ise BBV into 5v5 is just asking to be assraped several times). Laforey can be used in competitive mode, but it's on a level other DDs have no problem dealing with it.
AND! in any case, the game gives away gold for a lot of activities, the 5v5 ranked mode gives tons of gold to the top players in the ladder every 3 months for example, and anything that's not gold ships can be earned via gameplay.
So...
tl;dr The game isn't Pay to Win, since there's nothing you can get exclusively with gold that would give you an advantage over someone who doesn't pay for gold.I haven't spent a single cent in this game and own like 10 gold ships, have half a year of VIP time and countless gold consumables, for example.
>>154912765
>Silver versions of said consummables are equally good
Don't lie
>>154912969
Silver and Gold smokes give the same disguise.
The value of gold repairs lies on how much you get damaged (since you can equip only 3 of them), so either gold or silver are equally good given the circunstances. I like more the silver repairs because I play mostly BB so I don't have too many things to repair if anything brokes anyways.
Gold extinguishers are better I'll give you that, but a ship gets on fire once in a full moon, so after anon gets his first set of gold extings he'll never have to buy silver ones ever.
Subs consumables do not apply.
>>154913205
Don't pretend same amount of disguise makes smokes equal. 5 min of stealth ≠90 seconds of stealth.
>>154913375
That depends of the type of ship you are playing. I can see a DD smoking the whole 6 minutes of prem smoke in a single game, and I can see a CV not having to spend a single charge of silver smoke. So yeah, if you are a DD prem smokes are better than regular, for any other ship they are both fine.
Any fun gold CLs?
>>154915124
Do you like torps?
>>154915372
Thank god I haven't seen a KTKM player yet. He'd blow all his torps in a single spread and be useless
>goy is on sale again
They really want me to buy one
>>154915940
I did it
ded
Who /normie/ here?
>>154925424
>Who /normie/ here?
>posts boat
>>154925424
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>154925536
>boat
>>154926549
ded
>>154929236
Very ded.
>>154932365
I'm here
Where is everypony?
>154934186
Fuck off.
>>154933758
Why is this RJ so happy?
>>154936242
Because she has an Admiral.
>>154937691
And what happened to this other RJ? >>154936170
>>154940490
The Admiral wanted paizuri.
>>154940490
The realization that she'd have to introduce her relatives suddenly hit her.I can't read runes.. Am curious what it actually says though.
It's been too long, Iowa.
bumb
get
>>154950074
Congrats anon. Remember to load your Rage Fueled Shellsâ„¢ before sailing.
>>154950074
Congratulations.
>>154955052
Noice
>Enemy Aircraft Destroyed: 58
>>154953691
There's something wrong with this Ooyodo.
poi
>>154962503
I poi'd my pants.
bumb
>>154950074
Nagato is good bote
>>154971691
Are there any objectively terrible botes to avoid?
Looks like our Chinese overlords are enjoying TGS
ded
>>154971868
Colorado.Hood might be a suffering boat too.
>there are people who use gold smoke while clubbing in fubukihe died after setting 2 smokes and running into BB battleline trying to torp or something
>>154984885
>not spamming goldsmoke and insults in a connecticuck
>>154613783
Because WoWs is a game for casuals (and that's why i play it when i get rekt hard in SO)
>Playing submarines
>Listening to meme-painter in the background
>Fire torps, miss some
>No mistakes, only happy little accidents
>One torp connects and wipes out the enemy.
Damn that was an entertaining, chill match.
>>154990158
>SUBS
Srs question.
Between the Myoko and the North Hampton
Which creates the mostendorphins?
and
Which gets the mostwomen?
>>154992236
Myoko for both.
t. normie with gf.
When do fleet members even play? It's always ded
>>154993721
It depends what TZ are you in?
>>154995235
CET/CEST
>>154995480
I think there's like 3 euro's so I'm not surprised it's always ded. You'd have to wait till evening your time to see people on
>>154992236
Myoko
it feels like maneuverability is just useless.
in DD
>see shells coming in.
>most of the time get hit.
>try to retreat after dropping a salvo of torps.
>ZigZag.
>do figure 8s.
>still get hit.
or
>see shells coming in.
>pop smoke.
>maybe get hit.
try to escape from smoke after dropping torps after 20 seconds or so.
>still get deleted.
Should I have commanders that just improve scouting range or disguise?
>>154999738
>move in predictable patterns
>surprised because getting hit despite "maneuvering"
>Should I have commanders that just improve scouting range or disguise?
Yes. Also you do know that speed affects disguise, right?
>>154996464
A while ago there were people playing in the evening, not anymore
Lexington and Amagi when?
>>155001964
Isn't Lexington T8?
>>155002029
I'm assuming he wants the original versions. Before they were ruined
>>154993721
I believe a fair number of the active people seem to be in the Americas.
A few from the UK, Germany, a couple of the members were on the RU TL team.
We've quite the melting pot.
The amount of people on varies day to day and with school/College/Uni having started back up that's had quite the effect for a number of us.
And on an unrelated note, finally found where I'd saved that edit one of you had done of one of yodo and her admiral.
>>155002029
I meant as planned, before the Washington Naval Treaty forced the USN to turn them into experimental aircraft carriers. Same thing with Amagi. Her sister, Akagi, is also a tier 8, but she too is in her carrier form.
>>155002502
>but she too is in her carrier form.
Her true form is of a glorious BB, same as Shinano.
>>154999738
There's a mod that gives you better turning rate (ship turning rate) I use that plus the accel mod and radar range for DD, it helps a lot, especially on IJN which have horrible turning rate IMO. Also, don't be preditable, as a capital ship player, after too many games one knows where people want to go, where people want to go when expecting a salvo, and where people want to go when expecting the enemy to know where you will go when they think you think where their salvo will go. It's all about mindgames and experience.
>>155002239
>posting my Enterprise so much I become a couple of members.
>>155003660Not him, but anons have to be anonS. If I post my Yamatos too much would I become "a couple of members" too?
>>155003612
Mate IJN has the best turning rate. There's no opinion to be had, it's hard numbers
>>155005012
Well my opinion is biased after playing hundred of games with both asashio and lafogoy, after picking kagero her turning rate was god awful and I kept that image for all IJN.
god save the queen
>>155006227
THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE. I AM THE TURE MYOKO
>>155007694
>I'll have to TK the ally myoko
>you or me?
>done
>>155007694
There can be 3 Myokos anon you monster
As I'm muted now, selesnija the stack went to sleep, me too, I'm sorry if no one told you before disconnecting.
>>155008414
What are you saying to get muted all the time?
>>155008515
>sub gets gassed by our CV
>"wtf reported for cheating"
>we tell him it's his fault he got gassed
Probably combined with telling our CV how useless he was being, he had a squad of TBs and a scout plane just flying around over cap doing literally nothing
Thanks for the memes, see y'all in FBs hopefully.
>>155008515
Friendly bantz. In a scale from 1 to 10 where 10 is RNG-grade bantz I'm like 4. Pubs must hate me.
Also my mutes are automated my ingame reports, I guess I got a lot of by being all /pol/ and /d/ on global chat.
Last one got it while in game:
>enemy sub: Enemy CV reported
>me: lol I'll report him for being AFK and doing nothing at all, and maybe you for being bad and dying to him
>e.s.: and you are reported too
>you can't chat while muted
>>155008709
>my ingame
*by ingame, as in "there's no GM involved", time to sleep.
>>155008709
I don't get muted for telling subs that draw out the game to gas themselves
>>155008468
Why does the britbong always go to sleep in the middle of the day anyway?
>>155009078
>I don't get muted for telling subs that draw out the game to gas themselves
Those subs don't bother themselves to ctrl + right click your name to report you, this one did for me, he was mad as fuck. And as I said, I have months of people reporting me for saying "things" in global chat so it adds up and I think everytime someone reports me I get muted now.
Remember, never say you want to gas all the minorities or say futa dicks should rule the congress in global chat.
ded
I'm gonna level my sub crew with the lafagoy
>>155012065
> sub-crew
> lafagoy
>>155015168
That means 0 disguise and spotting range
>>155008709
>tell shitters to kill themselves often
>in both teams
>teamkill animals just because I feel like doing so
>shit up global chat
>never b&'d
I dont know why do you get muted so often.
>>155024748
He's not white
>>155028932
Well, I'll be gone till the next weekend.Camping
Couldn't recall whether it started today or tomorrow. But turns out it's today.
See you lot then!
>>155030645
That windago that possessed smd must return to the woods for some reason
>>155030645
Good luck fagget.
>>155031067
I guess skinwalkers need to have vacations too.
>>155030645
I will prepare my best kuma memes for when you return. Have fun and be safe.
>>155031067
*wendigo*
ded fleet
ded TTK
ded gaem
Fleet Battles!?
>>155024748
It was the game right after this one >>155007694
>>155007771
So I guess the faggot myoko reported me ingame when I TK'd him, after game, and the game after when he was in his sub. Fucking faggot.
>more normies in the fleet
Yes.
So, I managed to infiltrate the spics' TS channel, found this. Sadly, it's ded at the moment.
>>154823819
>never
ded
DESS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnheOlgK5uo
who is the best kongou and why is ithiei?
>fleet has a shitty name
>we lose
>command is given to a normie
>renames it "normie domination"
>club germany like its 1945
>>155043150
>ebin flank works
>the blitzkrieg works against the germans
>>155043150
>sent screencap to vashra
>"this is why the bismarck was sunk"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft-BPYbUNsU
Best kongos
>>155046908
Yes.
Don't you ded on me
I'm sorry, fetus seals, but I need to finish T1 researching.
>>155055987
just use free xp fag
>>155058628
Nah, I save it for ships I actually want to get.
>>155059075
it costs next to nothing to elite a tier 1, much less to just get a tier 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps9Sr0HNcp8
>>155055987
Nice statpadding desu.
>>155068842
I want to do things to this bongo.
bumb
>>155051513
RIP our TTK.
>game crashes right as I'm trying to carry
>>155077295
He'll be back, r-right?
>deal 3 times more damage than my entire team put together
>still lose
fuck this
>>155084843
Just carry harder :^)
>>155084843
>3x100
>300
>>155089945
I love you, ooyodo.
>>155092316
Get your own Ooyodo.
Did they removed daily login rewards?
I haven't got mine today
>>155100109
One hour m9.
Wow, we only have exactly 20 days for the next monthly routine report. 18/9 till 8/10
>>155046908
Disgusting.
Moderator is like a western Honkers.
>>155103205
You can't deny the truth anon
>>155103828
>tree and slut
>best anything
ded
>>155103804
Is moderator the one that begs RNG not to do 5v5s?
bumb
Got myself a puding, seems pretty solid right out of the box.
bumb
>>155116870
She's a good bote, amazing rof, good pen, long range. Just whatever you do don't get hit because her armor is paper
Anyone have the image with the lineup for the second US BB line?
>>155103804
Honkers is amusing, moderator is a fag.
big match
>>155133408
>>155133428
>2 Yorktowns vs 1 Wasp
wew
Mogami 1938 get
R.I.P my internet
https://youtu.be/nSz16ngdsG0
RIP freedom-chan you will be missed
>>155141203
f a t
a
t
Power came back desu.
Come back, it's finally happening.
>>155147689
Who?
ded
>>155141203
Almost done with her
dying internet bumb
>>155158075
fattie
>>155154528
Completed when?
>>155170465
Whenever I have some free time. All I need now is planes lifeboats and paint touch ups in a few spots
>>155171623
Would you touch Takao?
Where would you touch her?
>>155172687
No anon, Takaos aren't for touching
>>155176049
But they're very soft.
>>155128754
T5 New York
T6 New Mex
T7 Tennessee
T8 North Carolina (?)
T9 1938
T10 Montana
>>155179556
Any news on what the new jap line will have?, besides fuso.
>>155181507
Nope
ded
>be mightly drunk waiting for a cab
>two capital nigger try to mug me
>use my mechanical knowledge of CQC to disengage their arm grab and ran to a safe spot with security
>they follow me
>a single ward tells me we shold "off them" or they'll try to attack me again
>why he does some stuff to one of them I do the same grab he did to me to him, but well done
>they ran away screaming rants
>guard high five's me
>we tal a cigar after that
>aftermath: lost some cards while they were doing the first arm grab to me. No money or tech lost. they got a good amount of fists.
>After that, took the cab and enjoy life
It's botes relevant because the equivalent of a US Navy SEAL told me everything I used to survive this night.
>a single ward
*guard
>why he does
*while
>we tal
*we talk
Overall, I liked it all, I got to punch some nigs for free.
>>155191841
Take a nap anon, you're slurring even in text.
>>155193386
viva chile
>>155193709
I never want to experience being in 3rd world countries
How does this game compare to wows? Thinking of switching over since wows is run by a bunch of fucking jews and braindead slavs
>>155194965
It's a week of being russian and irish, then everything is normal and fine. And we all have to do our part in it or we aren't true chilean.
>>155195578
WoWs is handholding RNG ridden fuckfest. SO is git gud or die fuckfest. Also less grind, less P2W, "Worse" graphics and optimization.
>>155195578
The ships are even faster, so you may not like that. However
>manual AA
>better aiming system
>subs
>limited ammo and torps, so no torp spam
>prem currency can be acquired wihout buying
>grinding is more humane
>>155195654
instantly sold since NO RUSSIAN TREE BEFORE GERMANS/BRITS
how do the mechanics compare? i heard crossing the T is actually viable here as it was in real life
>>155195857
It is, there's separate values of armor for deck, belt and below, and all of them decrease as they get hit ingame. Angle of shell and pen of shell (AP or HE) gets compared on hit versus armor so it's not only about hitting, but hitting and penetrating. Cross T is perfect, deck is almost in any case the best way to land and pen almost every shell of your salvo, and the enemy ship needs at least 30 secs to prepare a full salvo against you (that means you'll have at least 2 free salvos).
Broadside armor will be always the best, no "front armour to avoid T crossing"-wows bullshit.
Devs said they might be adding a russian tree in the future, but now the focus is in the big 4 (USN, Krauts, RN and IJN). USN side BB line confirmed (slow BBs compared to the current Iowa led line). Same for IJN.
>>155195857
>>155195857
And I forgot, spotting mechanics is like WoTs. In fact, the game is like WoT at sea. Your radar (spótting range) is compared to the disguise of the enemy ship. Disguise get decreased when accelerating/firing or increased by paint/smoke/commanders.
>draco got fleet admiral and renamed himself draco 5 star
>>155197227
Keep in mind that he has played autistically every day and still he's barely above 50% WR.
>>155197407
And that's with stacking. Everytime I see him he's in a stack and still sub 50
>>155197407
>>155200812
He's at 58% actually
>>155201804
He plays like a 50%er, still relying on outtiering or commanders to fight other DDs. You need to be able to carry to be decent, or to be a big enough influence to swing the game heavily in your favor.
This only proves that the ranks mean shit when it comes to actual skill, they only show how much time you spent farming renown.
>>155172687
The 2 AA.
So the secret sub tactic is to click on the sub icon next to she speed bar. This way you skip the preparation bar for deep dive and go from surface to deep with only the initial prep bar, cutting the time in half
>AA guns can't attack ships
And that is the story of how I got torped to death.
>>155205405
Did you try to AA a boat to save yourself?
>>155208095
Yes. Thank you Independence for having no guns.
>>155208702
Atleast you'll have AA later on, jap CVcks have to wait till fatkagi to have it.
>>155205405
You obviously didn't believe in yourself hard enough
>literally kicked out of battle due to lag
What the fuck is going on today?
Goodnight /sog/
>>155215283
ded
Is Renown as good as Repulse?
>>155228643
Anyone?
One day.Unfortunately still not today.
I think tier 4 jap subs is the limit of my shit skill, wat do?
>>155235224
Stop playing subs
don't ded
>>155237046
How do I git gud though? having to calculate the distance of ship and torp speed is killing me.
>>155239717
fire way in front of where they are going to force them to turn. that way you might be able to force them into a corner, or at least herd them to where your BBs can shoot them but theys can't since turning reduces accuracy and all.
Have you played much surface ship though? you need to get to know what they can do, accelerate, turn and all to be able to lead torps.
>>155242747
Getting close enough is usually a bad ending for me, so I just torp at max range and try to get them just like you said, for the big ass cv and bb it can work but I keep getting in 3v3 in my subs. With big enough game I could use the chaos but after 4 games of 3v3? Shit man.
I do play dd, bb and cv, right now at tier 4-5 for all of them.
ded
>match starts
>some crimson blade fag with the smiley rank is on the enemy team in a DD
>fags on my team begin hyping him up
>spot him before he spots me
>get in half a salvo
>he slows down and smokes
>I still see him because memes
>fire a salvo at where he's staying still
>ded
ayy, that sure was hard.
>>155245081
He was pretty shit desu
https://steamcommunity.com/app/390670/discussions/0/350542145705021993/
So tryhards what do you think?
>>155248906
Interesting
someone tweet the devs and tell them I will give shekels for Soryu premium. Even if it's just Hiryu with a minor difference. I must collect the entire Kido Butai.
>>155248906
>no gold consumables
>no commanders
Yeah, sure, they'll most likely just avoid using actives and will use ALL the gold ammo that they can to compensate for the lack of goldsmoke.
>>155254758
>anything accessable via pure silver
>>155256338
How are they going to be absolutely sure that nobody loads up a macmillan and gold ammo?
>>155257062
if they got the devs on board as they claim then presumably they'll just make a new mode with the limits in place.
ded
poi?
Why do Admiral ranks queue tier IV/V? Don't they have anything better to do?
>>155264918
No.
>>155264918
how do you think they became admirals?
>>155264918
>>155268563
Let's not go overboard, there nothing wrong with playing T5
>>155268563
Winkster was the guy >>155245081 was talking about.
>>155268563
> drac0 5 star
What a fag
>>155269136
nothing wrong with playing tier 5, just saying getting to Admiral rank is easy if you just play tier 5.
Zig Zag is a sub 50% shitter.
That GRUUL guy is barely 50%, with some pretty bad stats for cruisers and some high tier BBs (others are decent).
Benjas just goes for kills and will completely disregard the team and the situation.
Winkster's stats go down as tiers go up, he's only "good" at tier 5.
Draco just stacks with Ises at tier 5 so of course he's gonna get to 5 stars.
And while I'm not saying tier 5 is only for statpadders, I myself find Pensacola to be a very fun ship, it is the easiest to stat pad in. You can get matched against tier 4 players with only 200 or so matches, who don't have any good commanders and still haven't learned to lead shots, so even a shitter like Zig Zag has the advantage.
>>155270950
I went from star-2bars to first-shiny star when I first got Shiratsuyu and went all the way to elite her. T5 sure is the perfect place to statpad, even when doing it by accident.I farmed a lot of renown eliting the Yorktown, but that's another story.
Any recommended commanders for New Orleans?
I just got it.
>>155239717
>>155243003
As someone who only played subs for the first time yesterday and therefore am full of shit, I like getting perpendicular to a ship as close as possible while still being on green and estimating how much in front of it I have to launch the torp. I prefer launching single torps rather than full salvos to make sure I'm battle ready at all times. That said, I'm also a reckless bastard who stays surfaced almost all the time, because T3 shitters ignore subs for the most part. I only dived when being fired at or in the proximity of BBs.
>>155248906
>tfw it's probably going to be in a shit timezone and I won't be able to play
>>155274891
DIIN is mostly eurofucks, so it most likely will be held on EU timeslots.
>>155273824
Guide to cruisers:
Put in your DD crew
Do searchlights just not work currently?
>>155268563
> draco
He knows ranks reset right?
>>155279879
The devs said they had problems with them. So no they don't work
>>155279969
Then he'll rename himself draco 1 bar
>>155280875
>a draco walks into a bar
deder
>>155279969
The ranks reset?
Is the jap naval ensign censored in this game as well?
>>155287729
No.
>>155288586
cheers
>>155274891
tier 4+ subs seems to be long as fuck and mine does not have that ass torp launcher, whenever I try to do some surface hunting , I got hit and getting both fire and flooding. Fucking hell.
>>155289689
This reminds me that subs can burn underwater.
>>155289689
Jap subs are fucking massive regardless of tier.
>>154612750
>no hms belfast
whats the point in this game
>internet still not working properly
this is getting ridiculous
Battlestations: Midway is on sale
Holy shit I just remembered I used to play this as a kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf-nmEpOZgQ
>>155295048
Looks fun but also silly.
>PT boat soloing a DD
>>155287729
Why the fuck they should do that?
>>155296391
https://steamcommunity.com/app/390670/discussions/0/350540974013929486/
>>155296391
It's censored in WoWs.
>>155296852
wew
Despair, but also despair.
>>155301547
>33%
ded
Why, why is Hiryuu the only T6 with only 4 planes in a squad? I'm getting my ass handed to me.
new bote
>>155306016
Wait I thought CVcks loved the Hiryuu?
>it's a faggot scores -1/2 episode
What early tier ships should I keep, if I should keep any at all and not just replace them with ships further on the tree?
>>155312467
Keep a T4 (NOT A SUB) for FBs if we ever decide to do them
Recently I've come to realize that Z3 is the best boat
>>155313551
Said no one ever
>>155286517
3 month season. Rewards go out for ranks, and 5v5's every 3 month season.
>>155287729
Nope, and in this game made by the Chinese, they have Taiwan #1 Flag.
Which was hilarious to run when Dark Judge was in its prime.
>>155306016
Practice turn fighting.
Or use TB' s and pick apart teams.
>>155308281
KGV is an okay bote
I'm running out of port slots
>>155318304
Get more.
>>155318625
I have to wait for 5v5 gold
Puding is so good I'll have Deutschland like tomorrow.
>>155321038
Deutschland is an interesting bote. I'm not sure if I like it or not?
>>155321580
If you point a sound telescope to the right place in the sky, you can hear distant echos of anti's suffering and rants about the Deutschland.
>>155321941
I don't think it's THAT bad just not really that good. It's kind of a meh bote.
>>155322207
A O B A is a meh bote, bogue is a suffering bote. And from everyone I know with a Deutschland, everyone has said she's at least in the "suffering bote" tier.
>>155323347
Is it bad that I kinda like Bogue?
Not ded
dedest
>>155323818
Yes
NA ded battles.
>>155336289
EU was super ded to. I was the only one on.
Goodnight /sog/ RIP thread
>>155338482
Goodnight fagget.
Yuu!
Is Pressure Cycle Driver or Big Fire Control Radar better for BB?
>>155346754
I generally go for for the BFCR.
>>155323818
>bogue
>>155228643
>>155231452
I do absolutely shit in Renown because the guns are incredibly inaccurate with only 6 guns per broadside.
Otherwise, it has the same guns as QE while having the armor and speed of Repulse.
>ask draco how it feels to be an autist
>draco tells me to suck a d/ick
>pubbie: "11k games and doesn't known dick is not censored"
BASED
>>155349945
Kek
Fun game
>>155352414
How come you weren't in a counter stack?
>>155270950
Tiger is the best ship to get Renown in :^)
>>155353701
No friends.
>>155356302
Friends can be hard to carry, even ones named after Samurai Flamenco jokes.
At least I killed all three Premium ships myself.
>>155356302
NBA is full of people who want to be your friend.
>>155356513
It seems like GOON quality really took a dive
>>155356728
Not everyone can be shitbote whisperers, and even shitbote whisperers rage against the Nagato P.
>>155357612
>even shitbote whisperers rage against the Nagato P.
It wasn't that bad desu
>>155358207
I mean it still has the inherently high damage shells of IJN but everything else is shit
don't die
On a scale from 1 to NavyFIELD how much of a shitty p2w grindfest is this game?
>>155362529
>>155362938
thanks
>>155363007
Also, since the post I quoted for you only referenced the P2W aspects of the game, I'll told you know that the grindfest isn't a horror. At least compared to WG/WT. Usually, if you upgrade every part of a ship before unlocking the next ship in the line, you'll have more than enough silver to get said ship + any equipment (mods/paint/flags/etc). The grind gets kinda hard in T8+ but not because the lines get horrible XP/Silver requirements, but because the population at those tiers can't sustain games all day long.
Also, if you can, get with gold the Growth Plan, but that's an option, not a need.
Well I guess DIIN was serious about talking to the devs about a tournament
>>155363740
SMD should use this chance to tell the devs over twitter about "certain" DIIN players' scripting.
>>155363740
Man, baron really wants a press account or some shit. He's been on the devs dick for a few weeks now
>>155364014
They should just give it to him. It's free advertising.
>tfw under 40% WR on every single cruiser since Tenryuu
>>155367172
Japanese cruisers are such a good way to start the game(no). Go with some DD/BB line first, commanders for a decent setup on either aren't that hard to come by, unlike CVs. And CAs need you to have a good understanding of the game to not suck.
>>155367172
The Japanese CAs become amazing at 6 then godlike at 7 and then you lose AA, and it gets weird
>>155367520
Maya/Choukai prem with revised AA never ever.
Musashi T9 prem with ring-of-ded AA never ever.
Life's suffering.
>>155368046
> Maya
>One less turret
No thank you I'll enjoy being a CVcked instead
ded
>>155370307
Super ded
>>155372535
Ultra ded
>matched in a Deutschland
>2BB CA vs 2SS DD
I've already forgot what T8 is.
>>155374561
It's okay you've got weirdly placed torps you'll be fine
>>155374919
Yep, and there goes the "win 5 battles in a Deutschland" event. Pretty fun bote, only major downside I noticed was the speed. Benching until I somehow end up with a stack for T8 or just feel like playing not just 3v3 shittery like T7, but outright unbalanced 3v3 shittery.
>>155374561
>>155377451
Subs are cancer.
>>155379805
They are, but it's the feature that casuals care about when considering this or WoWS. Without them SO might be ded by now
>>155379805
Fleet purge of subs when
>>155381787
Subs purged out of the game when?
they need to add a search function for certain keywords with commanders.
>disguise.
>scouting.
>penetration.
>steering.
>reload.
etc.
>>155384454
I just need a tier filter for boats.
>>155364014
someone tell elderlee to contact the devs about it, i bet they don't get what baron is trying to tell them.
>>155389245
Tone's twintails are better.
>>155389832
>>155389983
>>155390742
>>155391467
Anyone has a webm from the chinese tonk game?
>>155392003
Do bongistani BCs get good at some point is it just suffering all the way down?
>>155393742
They're fucking useless, nice AA tho.
>>155393167
>>155394402
realistic af
Is this an anime game or are the Kancolle parasites just in control
>>155396602
>Kantai Collection posting allowed.
>Feel free to talk about all botes here.
>If you have any questions, post them in the thread or read the links.
>Remember to love your botes.
>>155394402
yemeni militia vs saudi army.webm
>>155396602
The whole fucking fleet is boatfuckers.
I don't understand anything about commander mechanics.
Send help.
>>155401618
I'll let you know I tenderly make love to them
>>155402571
Commanders have levels (1 to 10) and ranks (from 1 star to 5).
Each commander has 1 active skill that requires points to activate (sort of a "mana" requirement), and 4 passive skills.
Only the commander in the first seat (the captain) can use his active skill.
All commanders' passive skills are available when they sit anywhere in the ship.
The rank and level of your commander gives certain bonuses depending on where they are sitting (better reload if in the gunner seat, for example).
Both Active and Passive skills requires your commander to be at certain level and rank to be activated, you can read each skill's description to know the requirements of the skill.
Anything else you need to know?
>>155403315
>passive skills are available when they sit anywhere in the ship
So a passive speed boost will still work if the commander is sitting in the gunner slot?
Also does commander rank increase with experience or is this what the promotion thing is for?
>>155401618
>implying i like kancercolle
>>155404402
>So a passive speed boost will still work if the commander is sitting in the gunner slot?
It works provided you have all the requirements that the commander has, such as a certain level or rarity. Keep in mind that SOME skills do depend on the guy being in the appropiate seat.
Promotion means giving them another star, its independent from the experience the commander has and generally unlocks a skill.
>>155404402
>So a passive speed boost will still work if the commander is sitting in the gunner slot?
Yes, unless the skill's description says otherwise, like "needs to seat in the comms seat", see Arashi or Macmillan for example.
This also applies to certain Active skills too.
>Also does commander rank increase with experience or is this what the promotion thing is for?
Level increases with experience, when you elite a ship (this also applies to prem ships) you can activate the Quick Train option to redirect all the XP you would normally use to upgrade into your commanders.
Rank (stars) are only increased via qualifications, which you get from certain events, repeated commander draws and daily login.
>play sub
>no idea what I'm doing
>>155408339
Just get yourself T-crossed and in close range and launch torps at a proper distance in front of the enemy.
How do I play DD/CL effectively? I see people making torpedo runs on capital ships all of the time but whenever I attempt this I pretty much get spotted at 4km and focus-fired. I'm utterly useless with Agano, about 15 games and 4 ships sunk.
>>155410553
>I see people making torpedo runs on capital ships all of the time
They are shitters. Spot for your capital ships, let them do the damage. This isn't WoWs, you get tons of XP for scouting damage (damage done to ships you were spotting).
Also, agano is a horrible CL, but if you must, play her behind your DD frontline, focus on enemy DD/CL, CLs are escort ships made to deal with small ships/plons trying to get near your capital ships. DDs on the other hand are meant for scouting and ASW. Don't mix both of their jobs, both can do what the other do, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't focus on what they should focus.
>>155410126
>in close range
I can barely go 20 knots, surfaced. I went entire match without even being in torpedo range of a BB. I did however do 13k in assist damage. It was a large match of 11v11 at tier 4-5, so while I did spot for the BBs they would focus fire on any BBs before I could get in range of them. I'm hoping in smaller matches I can actually get close enough to torp.
>>155411010
>I did however do 13k in assist damage.
That's a better job than what 90% of the mainsub shitters do each game.
Good night, don't ded.
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>>155411347
that was mostly luck
>>155415415
Luck is a skill.
>>155415989
that sounds like shitter talk
>>155417312
What? You are not gud enough to have good luck every game?
>>155417312
Say that to my winrate and not online and see what happens.
>>155411010
See? subs are suffering.
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>>155421954
Thread ded soon.
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>guy at t7 with only 315 battles played.
>skipped northampton and just went straight to brooklyn
wtf?
>>155428289
>american cruisers past the pensa
Takao complete
>>155430791
I expected you to do a full paint job.
>>155430985
What do you mean? Like camouflage? Otherwise it is fully painted
>>155430791
Did you just paint over all of the windows, anon?
>>155431082
The color of the plastic is generally more of a guide than the final color, at least for plon modeling every single visible piece has to be painted so I guess it's the same for bote modeling.
Unless the main grey color isn't the plastic color but proper pain, if so I'm sorry for not noticing.
>>155432032
No that's just the molded plastic the Windows are clear and were added after painting so the Windows are clean.
>>155432046
It's painted a darker battleship Gray the original bare plastic was much, much lighter
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where is everyone?
>>155437324
kill
>>155363818
Ain't back till Sunday and have virtually no connection till then.
>Standing on a sizable hill for connection, while dancing the phone about for the last few minutes for captcha to load.
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