/rwg/

>>154518692
1st for who has a link for A15

Post your best colonists.

>>154518815
3rd for use a public tracker.

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Does my prison need anything more? (Besides more finished beds.)
Butcher Table and Clothes Furnace should be self explanatory.

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STOP THIS SHIT! SEND ME HUMAN RAIDERS!
I ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH PLASTEEL, CASSANDRA!

>>154519797
>flatscreen TV
>table
>chairs
>actual beds
>lights
it's shit m8.

>>154519872
but the guy butchering and burning clothes has to have a nice environment to work in...

>>154519797
Nice.

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>>154519198

>beta orbiter has been rebuffed F I V E times by a married gay woman
>keeps doing it anyways
option to imprison and enslave colonists when

>>154520630
Chemical Castration mod

WHEN

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>>154519198
Dunno if the best, but at least most versatile

>>154519198
You probably don't want my carefully prepared killing machines.

>>154518692
So,I've jsut started a tundra run as tribals,the growing season being 11 days long. How much food and wood am I going to need to survive the cold seasons.

>>154522680
Doesn't matter, because you farm during winter.

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Well these aren't the smartest bugs, that's for goddamn sure

>>154523481
With what? No electricity and it probably takes plenty of torches to farm in the winter, wood being incredibly scarce. The only saving grace I have is like 4 geovents near eachother. Got any actual useful advise or jsut here to be snarky?

>>154522680
10x10 potatoes per colonist.

>>154519869
why would mechanoids want to raid you anyway

>>154523806
Research electricity, you pillock.

>>154523646
what mod?

>>154523912
>using electricity as a tribal

Don't be a bitch ass nigga.

>>154523995
That's not a mod.

>>154524009
>being a tribal in the first place
it's like playing no mans sky and saying you can never repair your starship

>>154523901
Ask them.

Anyway, I've managed to kill them without any serious damage, except an arm shot off.

>>154524075
really? last version I played was alpha 13 but I'm on alpha 15b now

>>154524147
>I'll get around to electricity,but for muh RP I'm gonna research in an order that makes actual sense. If you wanna powergame go ahead.

>>154524247
I think 14 introduced infestations. They can happen if you have any part of your base under mountain.

Fun times when they spawn in your hospital.

>>154523646
>26k silver

post your money vault

>>154524375
Well, I don't know if this is what you were looking for, but here. I keep my silver in the workshop.

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she just cant catch a break

>>154524332
>They can happen if you have any part of your base under mountain.
>mfw my base is entirely underground
oh boy oh man how fucked am I gonna be when one of these things pops up.

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>>154524647
Well, I'm an idiot

>>154524831
this base design is absolutely revolting

>>154524929
I don't actually design bases, I build them as I need them.

Cookie cutter layouts are so boring.

Which drugs are profitable?

>>154525356
Crack and weed are the most profitable ones.

>>154525673
Do I need to prepare the joints, or will the leaves be profitable? (I don't want my colonists smoking it.)

>>154525807
The joints are more profitable. You can do as I do and schedule use only when mood goes under 15%, or deny it altogether from the drug policy menu.

>>154525807
selling it in bulk form allows you to sell a large volume of it without triggering a police raid

Can I get a picture of a good killbox for Alpha 15? The killbox I am using at the moment is a bit funky and I need a colonist to bait them in or they'll just break through the door.

>>154525941
>You can do as I do and schedule use only when mood goes under 15%, or deny it altogether from the drug policy menu.
My main concern are colonists with chemical fascination. I denied all of them drugs, forbade the stacks and yet the dipshit decided to binge.

>>154526285
Arrest them when they're binging. If you really want a secure drug storage, you can wall the room in. Takes a bit of micro, but that way there's no way nobody can ever get their hands on the stuff.

>>154525970
...police raid? Is that a real thing? I didn't see anything about it in the update notes.

Is 5 colonists the bare minimum for a comfortable colony?

1: research / medicine / warden
2: mine
3: cook
4: construct / craft / tailor
5: grow / handle animals

Anything after that is bonus.

Since the Crashlanded scenario makes you begin with three guys I guess I would merge 1+3 and 2+5.

What do you think?

>>154527604
It's not in the patch notes since it's supposed to be a hidden thing. If you make more than 30k silver total or I think 5k in one go by selling drugs, you'll get raided.

>>154527907

Its fun anon, you work faster and less useless colonies to feed. Enjoy the game.

>>154527957
That's actually pretty fuck'n neato. Has there been anything else hidden like that? I love shit like that.

>>154527957
What the fuck are you talking about? I've literally never had that happen.

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That open section in the lower left was actually hidden inside a mountain. I mined my way into an open field that I used as a corpse farm

How do you guys feel about that careful planning mod that lets you manually set starting skills of characters?

>>154531779
I enjoy it, simply because I get to add the psyco trait to all my pawns without EVERYONE being forced to have it like in custom scenarios.
+ Making 2 of them lovers and one family relationship pair
I do see how people could call it cheating though.

>>154531779

cheating

if you random everything and save them even if you didn't change any stat the total points get fucked up and it won't let you advance

cheating and broken

>>154530921
wtf are those shitty diagonal walls

If I completely mine a hill and remove all the rock roof; those that solve my insect problem. Bastard nearly killed my bear.

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>>154532964
get on my level

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Uhhh, Randy? Y'okay there buddy?

inb4 >literally cheating

>>154533014

Scratch that, loks like I have a bigger problem to deal with right now. Have 14 orion members halves using orion rocket launchers with 2 tanks age 1 and 5. How fucked am I?

Can you only try to recruit visitors with a mod? Is there anything you can do with visitors that don't have a trader accompanying them?

>>154534662
>rocket launchers and tanks
unless you have a nice killbox pretty fucked

>>154535326
arrest them.

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>>154534662

Is how the story ends? All those hours building a home...just like that. That is fucking bullshit.

>>154535609
rip

so how do i actually get rid of alpha beavers

are they some evil manhunter threat of death or is it just a meme

>>154536835
>so how do i actually get rid of alpha beavers
Kill them.
>are they some evil manhunter threat of death or is it just a meme
Depends on the rng, they can sit quietly while you kill them all or go berserk after the first shot.

>>154536835
they have a 1.25% chance to go man hunter when attacked, just kill them

>>154535384
How? I don't see any option to do so.

>>154537105
why not make a minefield out of that large space

>>154537648
Draft one of your dudes and try again.

>>154537727
i will, i am putting everything into making it better now
i still need to add some extra turrets in case of commando/orion core raids

What's a good way to defend against warg attacks?
I have a square base out in the open, with 3 turrets guarding the entrance, but it gets overrun pretty quickly.

>>154537956
vs man hunter packs you can always just bunker down and wait them out
the moment they spawn shut down the turrets so they dont aggro the animals, get everyone inside and forbid the doors leading out

>Someone throws a party during corn harvest time

that dumb slut

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post worst colonists

>>154538112
I sorta did that. I recalled everyone back to base, but they started attacking a door of mine.
They stopped a little bit after and just swarmed my turrets. I survived, but a ton of my colonists lost fingers and toes.

>>154538909
i havent really had them attack my doors, maybe they saw you going inside through that door ?
they only attack turrets if the turrets fire first

What can i do with a pet chinchilla?

>>154539624
Eat it? Can it haul?

>>154539624

Breed it until you have 1,000 of them, and give them Release and a single master.

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>>154538743

This guy over here, he is harmless.

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Colony update
All the infections have been cured, bitch fell from a pod, still constructing the wall. So far so good

Lucky, the last one i got, is really good at art, so i'll be building statues from any non-granite stone i get. haven't touched statues yet so this should be cool

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>>154543970
LITERALLY SECONDS AFTER POSTING THE UPDATE

>>154544087
>>154543970
do you not have dining tables at all

>>154544273
oh shit, thank you for reminding me. I broke the one i had because it was shit quality, and forgot to build a new one because i got raided right after i deconstructed them

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>>154544087
Leave it there and pop it when the next human raid happens.

what kind of kindling can i use to burn out bugs? old clothing? Can i kill with a 1 square stack of wood?

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ship only had 4 scyther's, and i could easily kill them because i built cover. Also heatwave so i guess i'm building fucking air conditioners

>>154544631
if you are deeper inside a mountain the temperature in your rooms will be at the average for the season
so heatwaves and cold snaps dont affect you

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In a funny turn of events, four people somehow got gutworms, forcing me to amputate all of their stomachs.

https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=25549.0
>hives will try their best to not spawn in your home area
>if all caves are home area it will be forced to do it
>when hive reaches max size it sends out manhunter bugs to bring in animals/pawns

I opened a mystery box and it was full of unhostile bugs, do i let them be?

Btw, they are able to wander in my base because the boxe was against it.

>>154545175
>make home in one mountain
>dig big holes in other mountain across map
>angry bug neighbors paying visits

the peoples i rescued are dying because colonist don't help "visitors" even when they are in our infirmery.

>>154545653
>rescued
just let them die

>>154527907

5 can work. 7 feels more comfortable for me because I can have 2 dedicated haulers/cleaners who also handle odd jobs and prioritized tasks.

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Orbital trading is
O P E R A T I O N A L

Is the triple rocket launcher any good? It's on sale, and I'm hesitating.

>>154546075

It can be useful for emergencies. Beware collateral damage.

>>154545175
i tried it with my current save file to see if it will work
it spawns them only inside the home area mountain, ignores every other cave
i can control where they spawn in dev mode by digging holes and designating them as my only home area, currently have 3 infestations spawned in a tiny hole because its my only home area
time to see if they will send manhunters

>>154546531
they sure do go hunting for animals around
send the medium sized bugs to hunt down a sleeping grizzly 75 tiles away from closest hive

>>154548435

He's the most fun.

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My boar army is doing fine. Boar 2 is in this state for at least one year and he still managed to impregnate another boar.

>>154520630

Make a 1 tile room, wall it off while the guy is drafted in there. Done.

You're literally bad at this game if you use mountains for defense.

>>154551773

I'm using the -100C tempeature and a hall made of sandstone which I set on fire with molotovs whenever something hostile tries to come for a visit.

>>154550428

what is this frogspeak?

>>154552095

French, an ancient space language.

Warg only feed on raw meat. It's a pain to ranch them.

Tips for base building? Any good rules or templates to follow?

I'm building straight into the mountain on my next colony. What challenges will I face and how best to deal with them?

Do infestations and manhunter packs only happen with certain storytellers?

I've only played with Kassandra until now and all I get is faggot raiders and the occasional free plasteel donation.

>>154553674
wait for it

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>>154553712
No seriously I'm on my second 20 hours plus playthru and nothing but raids, toaster attacks, and diseases.

No infestations, no manhunters, no toxic fallout, nothing but raids.

I WANNA FEEL THE PAIN.

>>154553812
what difficulty? you know that challenging is actually the default right? everything under it is downscaled alot

>>154553851
Challenging.
Never changed it since I started the colony.

>>154553967
i have no idea then mate you are just lucky maybe

you could open dev mode and spawn own raids if you are bored thats what i do when bored

>>154550428
>2 colons inactifs

>>154554132

The artist,


and that guy.

>>154542552

>>154554132
>he's never had his colon inactif
hon hon hon get a load of this merde

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>>154551773
>not building a grand mountainhome

>>154553674
>>154553812
Could be a bug. Sounds like the basebuilder incident limits are somehow activated in your game. It disables pretty much all incidents except raids.

Try changing your difficulty/storyteller to something else and back, see if that refreshes it.

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>>154553851
>downscaled alot

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How careful should I be preparing for Randy?

>>154555327
>cheating

>>154555327
>cheating

>>154555327
>cheating

>>154555327
>tricher

>>154555327
>literally cheating

>>154555327
>cheating

>>154555327
>literally cheating

>>154555327
i'm ok with the prepare carefully but
>use points limit
>goes over limit

holy SHIT do you get a lot from a corn harvest

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That fucking tetraplegic, not going to the party, like everyone else.

That's a cunt.

>>154557018
Yeah, but it grows slowly.

Rice = most efficient plant bar none
Corn = least labour-intensive plant
Potato = grows well in gravel
Berries = can be eaten raw

I kind of like the way the plants work, certain plants are best for certain situations. For example, I usually grow rice in the beginning, and when I have a decent headway with meals/consumption I switch to corn so my growers aren't constantly harvesting and sowing. If all I have is gravel, I'll farm potatoes instead.

Strawberries can go fuck themselves though.

>>154557238
>your alpaca is about to eat that daylily
Fix your goddamn animal zones.
>Graves all around
Get rid of them and incinerate the corpses. Build sarcofagi for your colonists.
>fueled generators everywhere
Get some fucking solar going, nigger. Use the space you get from deconstructing the graves.
>all those lamps in rooms where colonists spend hardly any time concious
Talk about a waste.
>power lines running on the floor
Enjoy that -2 beauty. Run them through the walls instead, you tit.
>tiny as fuck hospital
Your doctors will have to dodge televisions and potted plants when they go treat your patients. Enlarge that shit like yesterday.

All that said, I kind of like the way you've used multiple different floors for a nice look. I think I'll steal that idea.

Is this general dying?

Can /cbg/ live here?

>>154557904
Nigger, it's 4 o'clock on monday. All the normies are out working.

Alternatively, if you're so unfortunate as to be a clapistanian, chances are you're just waking up.

>>154557904

I've been here for less than a week and their have been 4 to 5 threads.

I think we are doing good.

>>154557904
Not yet. Also, this is closer /dfg/ than /cbg/.

>>154557904
I miss /cbg/ so much.

when it comes to body armor and helmets does the remaining HP affect how well it protects you as it diminishes or is it just the quality of the item?

Basically should i wear a dinged up Superior vest over a 99% Shoddy one?

>>154553851
>>154555170
Manhunting alots when?

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>>154557601

Well, i can't use solar pannel where the graves are because it's all roofed in case of what is happening right now. But i will take note of your otheradvises.

>>154559078
Wearing anything below 51% gives your colonists bad thoughts.

I recommend selling the junk before it breaks apart during a fight. Set all your clothing profiles to 51%-100%.

>>154559078

I don't know for the protection aspect, but your colonist will be pissed with the 24% Good one.

>>154559393
why do you have treefarms when you haven't clearcut your surroundings

>every single treatment of ten injuries with a 13 doctor turned a poor result

herbal medicine is fucking worthless i might as well tell the bitch to walk it off

>>154559749

Well, that's actually a good point, come to think of it, but i like to have my ressources near me.

>>154559939
Why aren't you making medicine from the herbal shit? Also, good quality hospital beds with vital monitors help.

>>154560006
i engaged in counter-siege warfare and im saving the good shit for my colonists

im a pussy and cant bring myself to extract this downed raider's organs but my doc has burning passion so treating her just dumps exp...

>>154559393
>Pluie toxique
Are those fan-translated or what?

Let's say I want more good quality colonists. Which would be the best factions to enrage?

>>154560197
Rimworld's translations are pretty much fan translations, yeah. You or anyone can improve them.

https://github.com/Ludeon/

What would be the best material to make hospital beds with? I have plasteel pouring from my ears. Deep drilling is the shit.

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I'm not trying to bait here.
Is anyone else getting the impression that the dev of Rimworld lacks the "hard but fair" mentality of dwarf fortress?
There are so many realistic and viable optimal strategies that the dev stomps on because you're doing to well. This annoys the shit out of me. It wouldn't be so bad if he were more straightforward about it, but it's sneaky bullshit.
> You built your base in a mountain. A sound plan, until you learn about bug spawns. Start your base over.
> You walled in your base with a choke point. Raiders will attack the walls. Start over.
> You created a village with a central bunker. Raiders will set fire to outside buildings.
> You created a choke point leading into a natural crevasse with your town inside. Raiders now airdrop in.
> You make roofs. Airdrop raiders now break through roofs.
> Wiring
> My turtle died and my wife left me. If I get cold in the next year, I will snap.

How much you have to micromanage so few colonists, how debilitating a loss of one can be, and how random bullshit can cause huge losses makes the game unfun for me.

Please prove me wrong. I want you to. Please.

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Thanks Cassandra

>malaria

>in a temperate forest biome.

>>154560850
isnt similar shit in DF too?
with the last part you reference an individual break but have there been any infamous tantrum spirals in Rimworld?

>>154561152
DF does have problems, but they arise more organically from complex systems. The devs don't create them from thin air just so you don't do as well.

I thought DF tantrum spirals made a little bit of sense. Like a riot in a large community. They only occurred if everyone was already miserable.

>>154558740
I still play C:S occasionally but without somewhere to post about it, it's not the same

;_;

>hoarding unused silver
>not spending it all on usable commodities
Spend your goddamn minerals.

if there's a large space for someone to watch a TV does that mean multiple people can watch TV

i remember someone saying only one person could watch it at a time

>>154560850
>Is anyone else getting the impression that the dev of Rimworld lacks the "hard but fair" mentality of dwarf fortress?
I think (and hope) you're the only one. They're different for sure, but that is not the core difference.

The challenge in Rimworld is different from Dwarf Fortress mainly in that regard it tries to undermine strategies that abuse shortcomings of AI. The combat AI is a major focus on the game and you are expected to do some colonist microing in combat. It's not Jagged Alliance 2, but the combat is tactical.

The colonybuilding in Rimworld is different from Dwarf Fortress in that regard you don't design a large ecosystem that runs itself. It places much higher importance on individuals. This decision was obviously made because of technical limitations, meaning Tynan couldn't get a larger, more complex game to perform adequately.

And the biggest difference between Rimworld and Dwarf Fortress is this: RW is gamey as fuck, DF is a complete simulation. Events in RW? Random shit generated out of nowhere by a bullshit storyteller. What about DF? The entire world is simulated on the background. Megabeasts, migrants and raids actually come from somewhere. The terrain is real and continuous unlike in RW, which just presents a cheap as fuck illusion of a world.

Artists are pretty useful. I got a wanderer that can only make statues at 15 skills and is horrible at or can't do any other job. At first I thought it's just another mouth to feed but I set him to make art full time and the mood bonuses are magnificent, restrict someone's allowed area to their bedroom + the rec and dining rooms and it's not possible for them to break no matter how fucked up they get. It's like having cryptosleep caskets without having to research them, a really good panic button.

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I've made my electrical instalation not look like shit connected everywhere.

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Lewd.

>>154561704
>it tries to undermine strategies that abuse shortcomings of AI.
Maybe in some circumstances, but at least some of the ones I listed aren't like that. Creating a chokepoint, or wall, or mining into a cave system is not cheating the AI. These are things people did to defend themselves throughout history, and the game offers to us. To take it away because the AI can't pose a challenge is frustrating. Most other games are above this. In minecraft, mobs don't spawn in your house. In Halo, your guns work on all enemies to a certain extent. The devs never sabotage you because they failed at making the game legitimately challenging.
Sorry to rant.
> ... in RW, which just presents a cheap as fuck illusion of a world.
Well put

>>154561913
Yeah, the game balance is fucked up.

You have to turn every room into a statue gallery if you want good impressiveness. It's ridiculous.

>>154561294
>>DF does have problems, but they arise more organically from complex systems. The devs don't create them from thin air just so you don't do as well.
meme criticism. infestations, drop raids, and so on are game systems in and of themselves, not "problems"

>>154561704
>vents in RW? Random shit generated out of nowhere by a bullshit storyteller. What about DF? The entire world is simulated on the background.
that's a trivial difference since the two are indistinguishable for all practical purposes. i would compare this to the difference between a buddhist, one that believes every good or bad result is the result of karma, yet the inner mechanisms are so hopelessly complex that only an enlightened being can ever hope to grasp them, and a nihilist that believes good or bad things happen due to random uncontrollable variables. both have radically different views of how the world works "on the background" but in everyday life they face the same shit.

>>154562232
>>it tries to undermine strategies that abuse shortcomings of AI.
>Maybe in some circumstances, but at least some of the ones I listed aren't like that
You're wrong. That really is the reason all those incidents exist.

Rimworld used to have nothing but huge brainless raids walking into your killbox. Players saw that was bad and boring. Then we got sappers, drop pod raids, infestations, etc - more variety to make things better.

Sounds like you just don't like games that put any pressure on you. No proactive dangers, only challenges you can engage and win at your own pace.

Can bugs spawn ontop of sandbags? I have one spot with like 2-3 tiles near my bedroom quarters that's tunneled under overhead mountain, which bugs seem to love to spawn instead of the mining room just three tiles over. I don't want to wall it completely off because it offers a good escape route for my non-combatant colonists in case of raids, but the bugs spawning there are troublesome.

>>154562232
>>154562790
if we had embrasures that AI can be coded to fight against it would have more simulation like quality with blockhouses and castles so you dont need 'gamey' killboxes and it would still be balanced defense against sappers and regular raiders

>>154562790
a game presents the player with challenges in accordance to the tools the player has in their disposal what a radical idea lmao

>>154562704
>that's a trivial difference since the two are indistinguishable for all practical purposes.
The difference between a simplistic gamey system and complex simulation is anything but trivial. And the two are very easily distinguishable for anyone who has a cursory understanding of the game mechanics of both.

Rimworld in its current state couldn't ever have something like df adventure mode, because the world does not exist. There is no continuous map and there cannot be. The world map does nothing but sets some parameters for each coordinate. It's just a cheap as fuck illusion of a world.

>yet the inner mechanisms are so hopelessly complex that only an enlightened being can ever hope to grasp them
If by "enlightened being" you mean a gamer of average intelligence, you are right. Otherwise that is ridiculous hyperbole.

>>154563357
embrasures are horrible both gameplay and realism wise. there's nothing wrong with placing a lot of firepower at a chokepoint that's a realistic defense the problem is that the ai is dumb enough to enter the chokepoint and die like it's ww2 and it's the invasion of normandy. i think sending endless waves of tribals or wild animals to check the quality of your killbox is not a bad raid concept, but most human raiders should try to break down your walls and sort of "test" how robust your base is and force you to come out of your hole.

>>154563586
i may be below average intelligence because there's no way for me to predict what will happen next in df with a high loc

>>154563694
why would you construct a wall that an enemy can break down with no ability to shoo them away with a rampart..
this is realism going back to the days of, like, Sumeria or whatever had the first walled cities

>>154563826
yeah well why would you try to siege Rome if you have no fucking catapults? in terms of gameplay you either have a wall or you have no wall, either you can see and shoot through something or it's a complete blockade, 0 or 1, it's the only feasible way i can see it working, at least in the current state of raiders. in terms of realism raiders would just go home after they see your embrasures unless they were really desperate which is why i said i like the idea of starving tribals brute forcing their way in or dumb animals with no concept of risk, those kinds of raids where it's just a display of firepower and rape have their place but intelligent raiders deserve better

Can malaria be healed with normal herbal medicine and rest in a bed or it need the malaria prevention drug?

>>154520770
>chemical
operation->eunuch when?
+selling the parts

>>154564859
Look up the Birds and the Bees on the workshop.

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>Offer safety to an okay character, 7 grower with doubleflame which fills a good niche in my as-of-yet tiny colony
>She has Luciferium need

Th-thanks, Randy Bobandy.

Hopefully some of the raiders have some, I guess.

>>154564527
Malaria is treatable but takes ages to treat, malarigo just prevents it.

>>154564034
Are ship generators power sources?

HELP ME
I want to rp as nazi or teutonic order, either works. what do i need

>>154565715
To give up on your dreams, because RP options are extremely limited.

>>154565715

The medieval mod might help with the Teutonic order? Depending on what exact part of their history you'd want to roleplay. Otherwise I'm not sure. I don't think there's an early guns/muskets/arquebus mod, although it wouldn't surprise me if there was and I didn't know about it.

You could have experiment rooms and ovens (sort of) for the nazi stuff, but I'm not sure about anything else. There might be some sort of poison gas mod somewhere, I haven't looked.

>>154563806
Yes, you cannot predict the output of a complex system if you do not have enough information about the input.

On the other hand, you can *know* the general outline of any Rimworld game goes if you understand how the storytellers function - and they are very simple. Simple enough to be moddable by anyone. Simple threat cycles, category weights, threat point counters, event cooldowns and mean times between events. Event Randy is constricted to certain limits and exhibits some patterns.

But predictability or the lack of it was not what I was talking about. Shit's gamey as fuck because storytellers just magically spawn shit on your screen.

You cannot go out there and track the path raiders traveled from their base, because they actually didn't travel and their base does not exist, nor does the world. You cannot abandon your embark and visit it as an adventurer or later re-embark in/near it. Animals do not actually migrate across the world, they just spawn out of nowhere. Weather phenomena like eclipse or toxic fallout do not affect the world at large, it's just a gamey event that happens on your screen. The world you are in has no history. Ages of people and mechanoids alike are just meaningless numbers. There is no real mechanoid hive in your world, they just spawn out of nowhere. There is no actual distant engine of hatred sending out psychic pulses across your world, it's just a gamey event.

>>154566093
>>154565750
thanks, I'll install the medieval mod

>>154562372
Not the one you're quoting [in fact, I disagree with him], but did you even bother trying to understand what he wrote?

>infestations, drop raids, and so on are game systems[SIC - mechanics] in and of themselves, not "problems"
He meant those are problems the player needs to deal with. Not problems "with the game".
And he is complaining those were added specifically to [accordingly to him] stomp on, instead of spawning naturally from a complex system.

Please stop posting until you're able to at least understand what people write.

>>154560850
Actually, those are intended to encourage mixed strategies. Don't build only on open field or a mountain, but both; don't rely so much on the choke points, have a decent defence system inside your base; don't put all your electric eggs inside the same battery basket; be prepared for "random" bullshit like a colonist needing more joy because he got some relationship problems.

I agree the DF gameplay is better in this regard, but IMHO RW already went a long way, it'll get better too.

>>154565668
>Are ship generators power sources?
Yup. Expensive, but they're reliable and place-independent.

>>154565668
This reactor is from the initial crash in crashlanding mod (gives off radiation that kills,fast)

>>154567042
>place-independent.
You can't build spaceships indoors.

>>154566551
>Event Randy is constricted to certain limits and exhibits some patterns.
everything exhibits patterns, even so called chaos. simulate the game of life or wolf vs rabbit for more than 10 minutes and you'll see patterns emerge. many games promise and fail to deliver because of this, to the point "emergent gameplay" became a derogatory term. random generation is supposed to generate a never the same twice world, yet you will invariably get bored of insert favorite roguelike, because it boils down to the same shit every time

being unable to to explore the world is a negative, but the game doesn't play differently because it's not simulated. had the code been hidden from you and you were told it's a complex simulation you'd believe it because you have no way of telling otherwise. i don't even know why i'm defending this piece of shit game i won't even bother to buy, if you're looking for a simulation you're barking at the wrong tree, looking for "immersion" in games is an incredibly high demand and already speaks of high standards that this game is not even remotely close to being able to satisfy. some of the best rpgs i ever played i don't consider immersive

>>154567252
My bad.
Still, you can place them almost anywhere, unlike geothermals... and they work 24/7 unlike solars.

>>154566815
>[SIC - mechanics]
i was going to reply but then i saw this. end your life son, game system is a term with a history of previous usage which i did not invent.

Is there a way to set it up so my colonists will automatically harvest and plant at grow spots?

>>154560850

Well I've never died from any of those things, so you might just be unlucky anon.

>>154566815
actually i will reply. you're retarded for not realizing my usage of the word "problem" is the same as in his post, you're the only one that thought it meant "problem with the game". his criticism was that those (game mechanics) were added ad hoc to solve something instead of naturally arising as a result of a (game mechanic). it's an insult even having to explain why this criticism is pointless. a game mechanic is bad because it didn't spawn from other game mechanics? is rain bad because it was needed to solve wildfires and didn't spawn from weather calculations?

>>154567518
Come on now, chaos does not exhibit predictable patterns based on simple rules.

>had the code been hidden from you and you were told it's a complex simulation you'd believe it because you have no way of telling otherwise.
Wrong, the difference is easy to tell. Nobody had to tell me how rimworld worldgen works, I figured it out myself. It doesn't have to be moddable to pick up obvious flaws. Besides, the history of videogaming is full of debunked developer lies, many of them less obvious than this one would be.

You argue that all players won't notice these limitations in the current Rimworld build, I get that. But these limitations also severely limit what Rimworld can be developed into. It isn't built on a good core system.

>>154557353
Not sure how it will work but I'must growing berries and rice for my tribal tundra run. Reason being the wood might run out half way through the cold season and I'm not rushing electricity cause much rp. So once I got nothing left to burn I'll still have some eats till my trees grow, anyone got advise on best tree or an 11 day growing season?

>>154568296
> is rain bad because it was needed to solve wildfires and didn't spawn from weather calculations?
Hah, so the game DOES automatically spawn rain after some trees burned down. Kept wondering if it was like that since i'm an avid boomalope hunter.

How do I make animals stop following me everywhere? I have them set to zones but they just leave them anyway

Whats the most efficient schedule for pawns?

>>154569958
The big button at the bottom labeled "slaughter"

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>>154570010
Work until they "take a break"

>>154570545
Is it possible to run a colony where your starting group are all psychotic and force everyone else to work til they break then imprison them if the crash too hard?Maybe forcefeed the slaves drugs to keep them Goin.

>>154569958
Animals assigned to hunters follow them around. It's so that if an animal turns manslaughter, the hunter has some additional protection.

You can fix that by unassigning the animal from the hunter.

>>154570828
If you don't segregate your colony into social classes with a strict caste system you're doing something wrong. You can always tell who my 3 starting colonists are based on the size of their bedroom and the existence of air conditioning.

>>154570828
Shit, now I wanna try this, have some sturdy clubs and shields ready for the guards to use if someone snaps and keep weapons away from the slaves.

>>154570985
Nawaz, I do but never to slavery extent. I have a run with a 75 year old rich Explorer. He has a huge office,private guards and personal crypto slept in case age puts him at risk

Is prisoner recruitment meant to factor in their friendship level when trying to recruit them? Because I'm pretty sure having +94 should make even a shit warden get a percentage above 10%, mine are hovering in the 2.2% area.

It doesn't even change anything because they're just gonna bruteforce it again later until it happens or they'll get shot in the head trying to run.

>decide to watch an LP to learn any new strategies
>they make dumbfuck moves I didn't think possible
How do these people not die from their own idiocy?

>>154571783
Now, realize the following: people are blind to their own mistakes. You make the same kind of dumbfuck moves all the time.

>>154571783
Easy difficulty, most likely

>>154571783
Editor magic. They don't upload the ones where they die.

>>154572371
This is pure raw footage. I'm talking leaving things that'll explode in the rain stupid shit here.

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>>154567689
>game system is a term with a history of previous usage which i did not invent.
Because I totally implied you invented the term, right? Right? Oh wait. I didn't - I was pointing out you used it in the wrong context, instead of "game mechanics".

Und du brauchst nicht zu beantworten. Lerne Englisch zuerst, Scheiße.

So I'm doing a Blood Thursty / Cannibal run.

I guess i can recruit other cannibals
It's really too bad non-psycotics get mad at prisoners harvested organs/sold into slavery. I want to use the whole Buffalo.

At least the bloodthirsty boosts can be farmed by the daily assembly of my colony in the prison for the daily shooting of a prisoner.

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>>154567901
Bros please?

Also, what do you guys think of the work priorities I have set up in pic related?

>>154572752
i'm sorry for incorrectly guessing what retardation led you to believe i've made a mistake in using the term, since i've used it in the correct context also. there's an infinite set of errors you could've possibly made in order to arrive at this idiotic conclusion, and since you seem to be unable to articulate yourself, i shouldn't have tried to do it for you. how blissful is your lazy mind

>>154568296
>you're retarded for not realizing my usage of the word "problem" is the same as in his post
It is not my fault if you write like shit and let it implicit by the opposition between "game systems" [SIC AGAIN, those are mechanics, a game system is composed of mechanics] and "problems" that you made the later look like unintended and thus a problem that needs to be solved by the developers.

>>154573058
>how blissful is your lazy mind
Because I'm totally the lazy one who cannot even use capital letters, right.

>>154573058
Also, I know that for your race this is kinda hard to do, but you don't need to be so "ööga bööga" agressive just because you're a nigger who fell in the bleach running away from its potato farm, okay? I'll call your owner, Hans, he'll send you back to your cage. Everything will be all write. No need to raid the thread like an animal/german/beast.

>>154573337
> the opposition between "game systems"... and "problems"
the opposition already established in the post i was replying to you dumb fuck.
read again: >DF does have problems, but they arise more organically from complex systems.
there we have organic problems, ones created by the game mechanics, and artificial problems, ones that feel contrived

see, it is your fault for reading too fast and not realizing that unlike you, there are those who carefully select their words. ironic coming from me, isn't it? accusing someone for using the word term is fine and good but you have to make sure you get it right.

and your laziness if of an entirely different kind, you're unable to articulate your ideas because breaking things down requires a meticulousness you don't possess, possibly because you used yours up on trifling capitals.

>still no ccl a15

dead game

>>154574128
You expect me to read all that?

>>154574296
like your parents, i don't have any expectations from you.

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I'm thinking just build the prison into the room to ease their being press ganged into joining, assuming they're worth the effort and don't die instantly.
Not a bad haul for a bunch of idiotic tribals,
Don't mind the starvation i'm having my first go on the tundra, it's working for the most part.
Not a single trader has dropped by.

i just want ductworks but no, ccl can't update so ductworks can't update

fuck my shit up i don't like having 16 small heaters in my room and i really, really fucking hate the vent-walls.

if you know of a vent mod like ductworks, even that would be better

>>154574128
>the opposition already established in the post i was replying to you dumb fuck.
How cute, a bleached nigger contradicting itself. He said:
>DF does have problems, but they arise more organically from complex systems. The devs don't create them from thin air just so you don't do as well.
There is no opposition between "problem" and "mechanic" in this post. In fact, he doesn't even mentions mechanics ("systems" for people and germans who can't tell both apart) at all.

And the bleached nigger said it was using the word in the same meaning as him:
>you're retarded for not realizing my usage of the word "problem" is the same as in his post

It's no use, Hans. But don't worry, I'll call your owner to send you back to the potato farm.

>>154572771
Daily executions until the remaining join or all are executed.

I like it

>>154574353
Does that work?!

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>>154574597
>if you know of a vent mod like ductworks, even that would be better

>>154572771
this is the way the game was meant to be played

>>154574696
your inability to read a simple post has reached another level, i'm not sure how i'll even untangle this mess. the only person who confused "problems(with the game)" and "mechanic" is you. both of us used the word problem to mean difficulty to the player, challenge. his complaint was that bad events in the game don't feel like a result of game mechanics, that they're just stuff the developers to "make problems" for the player. my response was that those "problems for the player" are themselves game mechanics.

i can write an even more simplified version of this if you want, my capacity for explanation is peerless.

>>154575147
Can you guys trade email addresses and take it off the thread? This is some r/Rimworld tier shit right here

>>154575375
welcome to /r/4chan

>>154574696
on a different note, i have no idea what makes you think that i'm german. i suppose bravely making assumptions is in your nature.

>>154573054
>four prisoner spots and an absolute ton of blood

lol'd

>>154571621
Savages are hard to recruit.

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What determines whether raiders dig to get into your base or go around terrain?

>>154575147
>your inability to read a simple post
Actually I couldn't be autismed into reading it thoroughly, germ.
Now fuck off before I call your owner.

>>154575375
seconding this

>>154523646
That sidebar...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DVpuv7VPb2rA&ved=0ahUKEwjTjIbov4rPAhXCz4MKHYphCPEQyCkIIDAA&usg=AFQjCNH9TkmrASb9fpKk22dhEkwG7RRKlA&sig2=XCr9NQFIcZKWvetTD9DkUQ

>>154575526
Just bait. And if you aren't, who cares? You behave like one and deserves to be treated as such, not as a human but as a germ. Go raid something else, potato farm animal.

>>154576126
this
can someone respond?

>>154577413

>>154575669
What's funny?

can you make a perpetuum mobile using light bulb and solar panels?

>>154577593
lol

>>154577413

>>154575669
>he thinks that's a ton of blood
you should see my hospital :^)

>>154577687
lmao no

>>154576126

If the raiders have molotovs, grenades or shit, they will try to go full dwarfing.

If not, they will try to find the entry in your base.

The incendiary grenade launcher that i found in a mystery box is a blessing. But, it's also a curse.

>>154577719
k

>>154578206
lol

>>154577969

that makes sense, my last 2 raids both had grenadiers

>>154577793
>not having a sterile hospital
it's like you enjoy infections and permanent scarring

>mfw i harvest riders of their organs
building my super-army

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>send two hunters to get the last few of the boomalopes near the edge of the map
>as soon as they arrive a raid happens and they spawn exactly at that spot, immediately surrounding my two hunters
>try to get them to cover but one gets hurt hard, the other dies to a snipershot just as they arrived cover, doggo goes mental
>only downed one raider so far, got two colonists left that can fight against 7 raiders with grenades and guns
And that after the biggest threat Cassandra gave me so far was a tribal raid of 6. Friendly reminder that when the storyteller stays quiet with events for a while, they're gonna fuck you hard and you won't even see the motorpowered horsecock chainsaw-dildo until it buried itself unlubed in your virgin ass.

>>154575375
>>154575471
Actually /r/rimworld is far better than this thread. A shame it's so slow.

LE ANOTHER TOWNS RIP-OFF

>>154524663
god damn dude

>>154581129
does towns have dank tactical shooting?

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>>154525039

>>154581282
has heroes

The number of reddit crossposters ITT is disgusting. No wonder this general is so shit.

>>154581593
HURR DURR LE REDDIT MEME
fuck off to virgin chan then

>>154581593
Banned for hypocrisy. In order to know what reddit is, one needs to be from reddit.

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Post your bases

>>154525039
>I don't actually design bases, I build them as I need them.
I do both - organic if intended to be small, designed if intended to be large.

>>154581593
Downvoted.

>>154582060
>tfw want to build a street-like open base but forced to build walls around everything and turn it into a castle
It's a pain I must bear alone ;_;

>>154582098

I try to build mine from a practical standpoint. I try to adjust with the current needs of the colonists and how it would play out from their perspective.

Sometimes the game mechanics get in the way of designing a functional base though, which is annoying.

>>154582060

>18 fuel generators

How is the war on alfabeavers going?

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Cassandra, please. My colonists need to sleep. And I didn't even fix the bedroom destroyed by the siege.

>>154582060

>teenaged colonists have reduced move speed until they reach to 18
>80 year old elders have 100% normal movespeed
that's gay af

>>154562170
>not using batteries
Have fun when you have rolling blackouts, when one of your generators break down

>>154582639
I haven't been bothered by them much, I always deal with them right away and make sure all my colonists are set on hunt.

>>154583195
>wood generators
>batteries
anon?

>>154582060
>fuel generators with no tree farms
>individual heaters and coolers for every bedroom
>tvs positioned 90 degrees from the hospital beds for maximum neck strain
>inefficient use of hydroponics space
>no work bench mini stockpiles
>wood walls
>stone floor
>not stone walls and inflammable wood floors
>no firefoam poppers

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>>154583195

What do you think of my batteries set?

>>154583373
>fuel generators with no tree farms
They are out of shot
>individual heaters and coolers for every bedroom
For maximum comfort
>tvs positioned 90 degrees from the hospital beds for maximum neck strain
Got me there
>inefficient use of hydroponics space
How do i make it better?
>no work bench mini stockpiles
To late to intigrate it in to my design
>wood walls
For maximum log cabin comfort, keeping stone for the perimeter
>stone floor
2 beauty, better than the wood floors
>not stone walls and inflammable wood floors
Even when a fire starts my colonists are on it very quickly
>no firefoam poppers
isn't researched

>>154582476
I've always wanted to build a really big XCOM-like base but it can't be truly realized due to the lack of z-levels.

>>154582868

This is fucking bullshit, I can't wait for mods to actually fix this game and all its developer's downsides. We all know they are trying to get a game with tactics but we all want a rape dungeon with a hint of base-builder.

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>>154584121
>>inefficient use of hydroponics space
>How do i make it better?
You can do it like this to maximize the amount of tables per lamp, but your layout is okay-ish if you want to simplify stuff. (Still, no reason for those wooden walls between tables - I think two pillars are more than enough to support the roof.)

>>154583436
Any ol' set up is good, just make sure them bats are dry and your laughing
Your wiring is beautiful

>>154584386
I had major cave ins when excavating, just wanted to be sure it was supported. I thought colonists couldn't scale over the hydroponics. Thanks for your input.

tell me, if i wanna try Dwarf Fortress, and install some "graphic " mod, am i cheating?

>>154584990
no

>>154584990
No, you are just casualizing Dwarf Fortress so it's easier to look at.

>>154584904
>I thought colonists couldn't scale over the hydroponics.
They can, but they'll move slower; so it's up to you using a rows layout like you've been doing (efficient on colonist work, inefficient on power usage) or the thick swastika (inverse pros/cons).

>>154584990
No. It's only cheating if you play RimWorld instead. :^)

>>154584386
>Swastika best hydro layout
devs confirmed for nazis

>>154584181
That's a great idea, you could kinda wing it and pretend it has elevation by building in a mountain. I just finished XC2 and it has some of the best mod support I've seen in recent times, for a game of its status at least. There's a guy that still updates a pretty popular cosmetic mod every afternoon, be it minor or major shit.

Doing a tribal run on tundra qland not rushing electricity. Whats best tree to farm with only 11 farming days a year?

>>154582646
>My colonists need to sleep.

No they don't. Amphetamines exist.

>>154584990
Apparently there is no dwarf therapist for the newest build, wait until it's released, and try it afterwards. Trust me on this.

>>154586080
Real men don't need the rapists.

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>>154518692
Can you place a heater and a Sun Lamp in a room with a dirt floor to grow plants in the cold season?
Hydroponics is so expensive

>>154585859
And... after that raid, Cassie sent two others. I'm dealing with the second now.

>>154587720
More amphetamines.

Pump your guys full of yayo, go-juice and wakeup and never ever sleep again.

>>154587702
Yup. But don't forget to roof, sunlamps hate rain.

>>154584386
Meant to reply to this post
>>154587702


Also
>>154587720
Will Cassie Classic consistently send me raids on the hardest levels? Randy is too random :(

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The war on alfabeaver is going real.

Cassie send my 4 hordes of thoses things.

I 'm expanding my tree farm.

>>154587916
>Will Cassie Classic consistently send me raids on the hardest levels? Randy is too random :(
Yes. Uneventful periods won't be as large as in Randy, but she won't send, like, three raids at once either.

>>154588396
NO, NOT THE ALFABIVERS!

>>154588396

Postscriptum : I'm willing to take anyone with some farming skill, your colonists can go deposate their candidature to Lexville, somewhere in shit space.

>>154588396
Idk what the problem is 3 colonists with pistols and the pause button can clear them

>>154588396
I like your base. Couple questions: what's the point of your defenses on the north and south? How do they work?
Are you using those cryosleep caskets for anything in particular?

>>154587916
>Will Cassie Classic consistently send me raids on the hardest levels? Randy is too random :(

First off,
>emoticon
Fuck off back to lebbit
Second, if you want raids, you can spawn them via the dev console. Make it as hard for yourself as you want.

>>154589149

There is two turrets at each entrance, every time something is gonna happens, i set two line of colonists behinds the bags.

There is two entrance because it take forever to go all the way around my base. The west entrance work the same way, but i don't like it somehow. My colonist with the incendiary grenade launcher (who is the "leader" of the town) is always doing caulateral dommage on the west entrance. But on the north and south, it's a slaughter.

I don't use the cryo caskets, but i let them be. Maybe they can be usefull later.

There are five other mystery boxes on my map, like the one at the east of my base for example. I wonder what i may found.

Does the nutrient paste dispenser block cold air from getting past it? If not you can only stock the hoppers with Rice if you don't want the food rotting away.

>>154584181
just make a space inside a giant mountain and you can recreate the first layer from enemy unknown. Try looking for mods in the workshop too.

>>154585204
Only if you were lucky and fortunate enough to be born and live in America. Also he doesn't even update that often anymore, it's more like every few days. tfw oceania.

>>154587864
This, push it to the limit.

Is there any way I can get my dudes to stop making new piles of something when there are unfilled stacks of it already, besides making single a bunch of 1 tile stockpiles for specific items?

>>154589627
Wow how common are those boxes?

Why do nudist colonists keep trying to put on clothes? It's not even cold

Ohh, my puppies labradors are eatings tribals corpses, so cute.

>>154590194
You have their clothing assignment set to "Anything" rather than "Nudist".

Do you find that you have more prisoners then you know what to do with?! What if you let them escape during a raid? Place some Gladiuses near their door and have them escape right before the enemy hits your kill box.

Instant shock troops!

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>>154590178

It was just RNG i thinks. Beside, i'm playing on largest map.

Should I bother raising iguanas for eggs?

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Okay, so for some reason caravan decided that it was a good idea to try to escape through the bug-infested tunnels.

Now I'm going to have to mount a clear-and-resque operation, goddamnit.

>>154590417

Nah, you should raise them to conquer the world.

>>154590341

Didn't even know about outfit assigning, thanks

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>>154590489

That's a lot of bugs.

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>>154590489
Oh gods, the guests that were visiting the colony decided to attempt a rescue operation themselves.

This ain't going to end well.

>>154591095
>Oh gods
Go back to Ctrl-Alt-Del Discussion Board

>sensorial mechanites

The fuck is this?

Which one is going to give it to me the hardest, Orion Corporation or Commando Squad?

>>154592223
Awesome buff masquerading as nanobot-based disease.

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>>154591095
The aftermath ain't pretty, but I managed to save 5 guests (although 4 of them are in cryo in critical condition) and only lost one hand and a husky. Fully trained and valuable husky, but still pretty good.

The thrumbos will be probably stuck in bed for a year though.

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>>154592858
One of them got really close to dying too.

Thank fuck for having plenty of doctors and a full stock of wakeup. Medical stocks ran dry really fast though.

>>154593121
My trumbos always die from infection.

>>154594180
Yeah, I can see that happening since they get so many wounds in total and it's hard to keep up with treating them. Luckily my doctors are bionically enhanced so that they can treat wounds fast enough that I only get one or two infections per thrumbo and they can easily survive those.

Also I'm running with ADogSaid, and two of my thrumbos are more machine than flesh.

>Fourth raid, all using sappers
I know I didn't build a single turret, and yet I have some huge walls, but come on...

So what's the deal with the in darkness debuff? When it's applied seems completely random.

>>154596605
It's applied when people are in the dark.

>>154596845
I wish people could have Flashlights or Mining Helmets

>>154597028
I wish you could make people bioluminesce.

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>>154596845

>spend a billion years meticulously choosing my start with prepare carefully
>seriously consider every detail of start location
>embark
>terrain isn't quite what I want
>annoying lake in an unfortunate position or the cliffs are all off to one side so my base would be off center or something
>close rimworld

I have hours and hours of playtime just doing this.

>>154598168
that's why you save your presets m8

>>154597826
Nigga he's clearly in the dark do you have any idea how light works?

>>154599081
I think that's the point. He doesn't have the bad thought for being in the dark.

>>154599192

Yeah it only happens sometimes, makes no sense

So what does everyone do with jade? Make shivs to sell?

>>154599856
>>154597826
The debuff happens when the pawn has spent some [dunno the amount] time in the dark. It is not automatic.