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Lupadim Did 9/11 Edition

SPIRIT OF JUSTICE IS OUT! GET IT ON THE ESHOP!

>What is Attorney Online?
It's an virtual chatroom/courtroom mix we use to perform improv AA-like trials, Civil Cases, Logic Battles and more!
Come join us on our server, Attorney Online Vidya!

>The Main Reference Doc (contains downloads, rules, faqs and more):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ihsVxLVarPMPgGcU4W81CQyv3gPkLvS63GK7k0N78Qw/edit?pref=2&pli=1

>Gameplay footage?
Streams typically run in the evening, US time. You can also check out recordings of previous cases via guardlytheguard and lawfuldickish on twitch.

>Role Guides
http://ace-attorney-vidya.wikia.com/wiki/Guides

>Quickstart Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gwg1AVZPlPAFy3aWAW28e9lH1vjIk4d8jOt3mChoy74/edit#

Previous Case: >>154013505
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first for gato
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>OP picture
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LSP 9 (/11) on area 2
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So threads are actually going until 750 replies now?

we not ded?
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>Phoenix goes to Khura'in
>constantly struggles during trials, barely wins and even gets a guilty verdict
>Apollo goes to Khura'in
>takes down the government, finds out the truth and basically fixes the whole country up in one single trial

Why is Apollo so much better than Phoenix?
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>>154491814
Like they said he had 2 seasoned mentors.

But yeah just beat SoJ and RIP AA. However are they going to make another game.
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>>154492087
>However are they going to make another game

It's like there isn't a scene at the end that clearly gives you a hint what AA7 will be about
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>>154492190
Part of me was thinking this is better anyways since there's now 2 settings they can work with but the cast is just getting more and more bloated.

Big shame how Apollo and Trucy can't be a thing even after what Dhurke said.
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The update is delayed because of lack of demothings

Until then, I'd like to ask the community to work on demothings for these:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y4ZZvuL5BohQBFp1dvmyPT5nEpYpJ9o98f8l3f9gGKM/edit?usp=sharing

No need to be fancy
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>>154491814
Kristoph was probably the better mentor than that fuccboi Phoenix who only wins by bluffs and amateurish tricks, it's clear that Apollo got all his brains from me rather than that idiot Wright.

Honestly Phoenix should lose his badge again for being such an embarrassment.
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>>154493149

>"dangits"
>"purseowners"
>"fire emblem (i still think this is a mistake)"
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>>154493149
am I supposed to guess who already has a demothing and who doesn't?
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>>154493149

Did instant math and got about 202 characters in total, which means we could have a whole lot of anon slots now.
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mods darklaw player here i added a suggestion to the suggestion doc for next update just making sure cause i've never made a suggestion before or made content for the game

its basically just a darklaw defense folder so she can be played on defense
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Okay, both CT's from yesterday are done uploading and processing if anyone cares.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyGBmzxJLFY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uav75DtFDL8
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>Area 2
>Lesbian terrorists vs Shota ISIL
terrorists

Area 2>Area 3
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>>154495857
>start in 3... 2... 1... 0...
>GUNDHAM DID IT. I INDICT GUNDHAM.

shoulda just ended the recording right there desu. there isn't much else to it.
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>>154493763
You can check in your demothings folder
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>>154495857

Oh and pls vote. http://www.strawpoll.me/11204723 samples are in the strawpoll doc.
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>>154498045
I won't lie, I think your selection is pretty shit desu.
This is what I had in mind instead. http://pastebin.com/Sgrbvh40
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Case 6-2 gives me a headache.
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>>154498002
To be fair Lupa, a lot of characters do have demothings that aren't just implemented properly. So a simple folder check won't just cut it. That being said, here's a list of folders with NO demothings whatsoever(check character folders once in a while).

Susato Bench
Tobias Gregson
Cindy
LeTouse
Buddy
Uzukamaru Taizo
Adam Ladyfirst
Oscar Fairplay
Hutch Windibank
Flora
Ace
Santa
Seven
Kirigiri
Chiaki
Komaeda
Inferno Cop
Mister Judge
Lucina
Chrom
Dante
Rydia
Ranger Justice
Conway Stern
Cammy Lauren Paups(this is not a folder, this is an error and you will be bullied for it)

Hopefully this helps someone out there.
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>>154501652
Oh, I separated Cammy from Lauren Paups in the original file
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>>154501652
Megundal too has no demothings m8
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>Area 2
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>>154501652
Working on it.
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>>154502114
Thanks for letting me know, noted.
>>154501845
Also, why does Layton have two CSS slots?
>Layton
>Layton that is not named Professor Layton
:)

Also, here's my own mostly cleaned up misc folder for reference(I just didn't bother with Lance and Hobo Nick admittedly, so Lupa be sure to fix that they have four demo things in the next Full Game download. Also, actually implement previous Hotfix content such as characters into the next one.)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uikuww4l8ft8vmc/misc.zip
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Daily reminder.

Want to be a witness in an investigation?

Cool, but...

DO NOT
HAVE
MORE
THAN
ONE
GIMMICK

UNLESS THE INVESTIGATORS INDICT YOU OF BEING THE RELA KILLER
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>>154492589
>Implying
A DRAGON NEVER YIELDS, NOT EVEN TO BEING BLOOD RELATED
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>>154504789
what's so wrong about marrying your sibling if you truly love them?
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>>154504972
Nothing as far as I'm concerned.
Maybe Rayfa can make it legal she wants that prosecutor D anyway
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>>154504712
>testimony
>a gimmick
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>>154502881

>Machi was found in an orgy after surviving a suicide plane hijacking
>Suggest he was revived by Allah and granted his virgins for destroying the Twin Towers in whisper as a joke
>Lead takes it and runs with it and even gives his life as a virgin to summon Allah

Absolute madman.
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>>154505746
A testimony is always followed by a cross examination. The cross examination is as much of a gimmick as a psyche lock or logic chess under the context of Investigations, fuckfaggot. If you want to give testimony without cross examination, submit an evidence containing your accounts.
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>>154504972
I guess it's fine, so long as they don't have kids, because of the risk of serious defects. But nothing should stop people from living in harmony if that's what they both want.

On a related note, I remember reading a story of how some adoptive siblings who fell in love were kept apart by their parents. That was really sad.
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So do we agree that SoJ was fucking great and a thousand times better than that blunder known as DD?
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>>154506669
Gonna have to agree.

It would have been better if they cut case 4 entirely but it was pretty fucking great aside from that.
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>>154507063
I liked case 4 actually, felt nice to have a simple filler case between 3 and the ride that is 5

It was basically a break
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>>154504712
What if they use EVERY SINGLE gimmick?
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>>154508441
Someone just fucking did.
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>>154507709
I guess you have a point in terms of pacing, I just thought it was a bad case

>Cast is obnoxious
>Piss easy (the answer is literally given to you with simon's account and the autopsy report)
>Athena is treated like she is completely fucking incompetent which results in Simon holding her (and therefore the player's) hand throughout the trial
>No QT daughterus like Trucy, Rayfa or Armie
>Even the villains' breakdown was predictable within 5 minutes of them being on-screen

Honestly, what it felt like was they had made it as a case 1, decided that they wanted a Seance Tutorial in case 1, but had done enough dev on it already that they didn't want to scrap it, so they just retooled it a bit and stuck it as a case 4. Fuck they even have a case 1 "I'm the killer" movie except the killer is the DanganRompa murderer
As a case 1, all the issues are forgivable, but I kinda wanted something more than that from a case 4
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>>154506571
I may or may not be showing interest in this incestuous story. Please provide the source of this narrative.
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>>154508719
>Someone just fucking did.
Why do you think I made that point?
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>>154508936
>Please provide the source of this narrative.
I can't remember, it was a few years ago.
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>Valant did 9/11
>All the victims were MERELY PRETENDING.
JUST A PRANK.
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I may have spent a little too much time on this.
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>Allah undoes 9/11 which was caused by lesbian terrorists

Islam is a religion of peace confirmed.
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>>154510364

Y-you forgot someone
;_; >>154510395
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Can we just discuss about the new client for a minute?

CSS slots aside, it's inconvenient and somehow less functional than the current one, in my admittedly limited experience with it.
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>>154498045
>>154500562

Both of these lists have issues, desu.
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>>154510912
What did you had in mind?
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>>154510728
Whoops! Sorry
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>>154511419
Based case.
Thanks for all the fun.
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>>154500562
>I think your selection is pretty shit desu.

>he doesn't like ekorisha

And I had buzzkill on there. You can make a poll as well, these were just the ones I thought about adding.
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>>154511839
Well alright then. Guess I'll make a separate poll at a later date.
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All newly introduced characters are literally Moe tier.
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>>154512116
PICKLE
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>>154511345

Buzzkill works for Suspense since it basically *is* the suspense theme. Class Trial Solar Edition would fit Objection more than the current one which is suited more for closing arguments.

As far as a Crisis theme my suggestion would be Tropical Despair.

I think some of the existing songs need to be shuffled around a bit as far as categorization goes, been putting together a list for suggestion.
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Daily reminder to leave if you see it is a fuckfaggot witness case.
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What are the signs?
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wit 1(2 anon) in A3, I had dc, on my way back sorry to everyone
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>>154512581
>he is still crashing cases
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>Microaggressions
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>>154512581
he used to be fun to play with.

but, you know, attention in this game is like 4chan's (you)s, the weak end up so addicted to it that they move out of their way to shit up stuff just to get some.
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>>154512581
Such a tragedy.
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>>154515623
He's gotta be the person that wasted most of my life's time.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
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>>154512581
Uh, sorry for crashing that case, it was my first time witnessing in AAI and I really didn't have much planned at all. I thought ''Valant did 9/11'' would have been funny but not everyone agrees and I gotta keep note of that.

But yeah, I've been trying way too hard lately, I always come up with over-the-top ideas and not everyone will really enjoy that, it feels forced and not natural and I will fully admit it.
Like the case where I was AO itself, shit like that is only gonna completely change the case and not everyone will be cool with it

I thought people enjoyed my stuff but if it's not the case then I'll stop and I'm also gonna have to apologize for causing trouble

If I ever witness again I'll try being more ''casual'' about it, sorry for upsetting you all
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>>154517595
Alternatively, go back to the defense bench, it is where you can shape the case the way you want and be the star.
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Only when Holmes v2 is made
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>>154501652
https://www.mediafire.com/?nfd2dotb5s41adv

Got them all I think in a bundle. Even had to make some for characters that did not have there own portrait.
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>>154518661
Meant to replay to this one. >>154493149
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>>154512451
Oh that list definitely sounds like it could help.
I guess the only problem is who knows if Lupa's gonna take the time to actually move them around.
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COME TO AREA 3 FOR A CASE WE NEED PEOPLE!@
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>>154518661
Just noticed I forgot to add the dangits. Someone else can do it I guess.
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>>154526064
Also some filename errors. But it'll be done tomorrow,. Thanks for what you did.
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B U M P
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Sarge WHEN
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This thread is going downhill faster than the towers
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>>154541525
So this is what /drg/ has come up with in the 2 weeks they've been here. Yeah great job letting autistic shitposters in.
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>>154541525

What am i even looking at?

This is bait right? It's advanced shitposting for Drama right?
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>>154542417
Something that Noise in CC made with N, Almaz, and a few others.
Soley to start drama.
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Trump v Hillary case when
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>>154543994
Never.

Because unlike the US general election, we have better candidates for a case.
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>>154508816
Uendo hardly has any animations though which really made me sad cause they're the most interesting character in that case.
In my opinion (I'm just now jumping in on this conversation by the way) the pre-trial bantz felt all too unnatural and not exactly like Simon would really act, it was written very fan-casey to me.
I ended up making the case feel a lot more comfy, I feel due to taking it slow and coming back to that trial with a lot of breaks inbetween,
The only really hard part was the Resting, please do not disturb contradiction.
It was funny seeing Blackquill grab Athena and shake the shit out of her, because the player too gets frustrated at Athena's non-confidence
Also holy shit why does almost every witness need a transformation it kinda really devalues the rest of the transformational witnesses each time you put another one in there.
There was no validated reason for it to baby you this hard by Case 4, and in reality it just makes me feel cheated out of a case by having this not really challenging one.
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Someone add this.
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So since everyone dosen't want the new client, how can we change Lupa's mind on that? Everyone seems aganist it in game.
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>Day 1 trial of 6-3
>Incredibly obvious what happened
>lol nope fuck you
Fuck sake.

>>154551445
What are the overall problems of the new client?
I know it doesn't quite resize itself properly and the buttons revert back to the original ones when you post. Anything else?
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>>154551780
Limit of 20 buttons. However, you have a dropdown menu to choose animations, so you have infinite.

Design is ugly. Actually it is better than the old one at many aspects and people just need to get used to it.

It can resize itself properly unlike the old one, it just doesn't change the size of the sprites since that is quite out of its scope.

Doesn't have in-game logs, but it includes AAU which has much better logs.

It has support to over 200 characters in the CSS and shitposters who want to instigate drama hate this.

That's it. Pick your side.
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>>154552239
Alright time to refute this shit.

>Limit of 20 buttons. However, you have a dropdown menu to choose animations, so you have infinite.
Actually, that's not really true. It pushes back all of your buttons if the firstmode is greater than 10 (so, if firstmode = 13, the first three buttons are gone). And from what I've heard, the dropdown list bugs out after 21 emotes. I need to check that out myself, though.

>Design is ugly.
Yes.
>Actually it is better than the old one at many aspects and people just need to get used to it.
Objectively wrong. The evidence screen somehow looks shittier now. The buttons looks worse, and the penalty bar is neon-green. The only thing that looks better on this client is the "ding" button, but that's because it's literally a higher-res button.

>It can resize itself properly unlike the old one, it just doesn't change the size of the sprites since that is quite out of its scope.
Wew what. From the README file.
>* The client does not resize correctly between menu transitions. Fortunately, the client can be resized.
Meaning that if you go to the CSS and go back to the main screen again, your client will shrink. However, they allow you to "resize" the window - or, stretch it vertically for that sweet turquoise background, and limit the the amount you can go horizontally.

>Doesn't have in-game logs, but it includes AAU which has much better logs.
>we couldn't bother allowing people to access the IC log already put into the game, so here's a third party utility to do that for you :^)

The best thing about the new client is the CSS change - which allows for 240 characters on the CSS. Everything else about it is worse. It's literally one step forward and a massive leap back.
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Didn't we have our own client in the works? Why are we making do with this furry, pony garbage?
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>>154552731
>It pushes back all of your buttons if the firstmode is greater than 10
Because it has a limit of 20 buttons you huge idiot.

>the dropdown doesn't work with more than 21 emotes
A blatant lie.

>Evidence screen looks worse
That's true but we never used it so who cares? Besides, with AAU you can hide it.

>The buttons look worse
Not really.

>The penalty bar is neon-green
Like in the games? Wooooow,

>snip
Do you even know what you are saying? The client NEVER resized correctly between menu transitions, use /charselect now and see for yourself, the difference is that now you can simply resize the client to fix that, something you couldn't do before unless you used the task manager.

I know some people hate change but I refuse to believe you are being honest here, no one can be so stupid.

t. someone that has been using the new client
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>>154552731
>it's bad because it's ugly and it doesn't does what it wasn't supposed to do in the first place
W-Wew, my mind is blown........
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>>154552997
>he doesn't boot up AO exclusively to look at beautiful buttons and click at more than 20 buttons
Step up your game senpai
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>>154552885
>A blatant lie.
Which is why I said that I needed to confirm it myself.

>That's true but we never used it so who cares? Besides, with AAU you can hide it.
While I didn't know about AAU being able to hide the evidence screen, what's the point in changing it in the first place? And it goes against your claim of "is actually better than the old one [in] many aspects", because the client has an even shittier skin than the normal client, barring the CSS screen. The buttons are subjective, so there's not much to argue there.

>Like in the games? Wooooow,
Here's a fun fact - art in GBA games were incredibly bright due to the GBA screen being a piece of shit. What it actually displays is at a much dimmer color than what the sprites have - because the artists realized that anything displayed on the GBA would be dimmer than what they had made.

The penalty bar is supposed to be green, but not the neon-shade of green in the new client. The blue made more sense in AO either way, but that's just my opinion.

>the difference is that now you can simply resize the client
>YOU can simply resize the client
>IT can resize itself properly
You said it can resize itself properly. I said it didn't. Which is true - it doesn't, the user has to resize it himself to correct any sizing problems. If it resized itself properly, you wouldn't need to resize it in the first place.

And I know it never resized correctly, I used /charselect when it was /change a bunch of times when I needed to change characters for whatever reason. It made using the music list a bitch.
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Can't we change most of the art clientside? I know buttons can't change but that's such a minor aspect
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>12 people online
RIP game.
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>Oldclientfags ruining general again

Jesus christ if you're not going to get with the times then just leave.
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Newfag here. I'm planning to spectate one case in order to understand how to play with you guys. Is one case enough or do I need to watch several so that I won't fuck up the case?
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>>154556242
just remember that if you try to have fun you're trying to get the spotlight and get all the attention
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>>154556242

Just whatever you feel comfortable with, I only watched one case and jumped in as Co Def as my first case.
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>>154552239
>>154552731
Can one of you guys give a picture referrence to how it looks like in 1.8?

>>154552883
https://github.com/AO-devgroup/Attorney-Online-Client
And for the last time, it's not us who's working on it, it's 3-5 other ponyfuckers
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>>154551780
>the buttons revert back to the original ones when you post
That happens if you don't have their misc folder.
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Does the SoJ final boss have the highest body count in the whole series?
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>>154556267
fuckfaggot how about you change your name to fuckoff because that's how we all feel about you by now?
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>>154557793
Fuckfaggot already apologized though.
>>154517595
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>>154556242
Game is dead around this time on Mondays, if you come back in 3 hours you might be in for a ride
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>>154557372
Ah.
Is that something I can download anywhere?
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>>154558576
Their misc folder is in the full download of the 1.8 client.
I don't have the link.
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>>154557793
Hey Courtney/Iris
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>>154557793
I honestly don't know what I did to upset someone so much but shit's getting kinda funny tbqh
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>>154561157
>apologizes
>one day later "I don't know what I did"
typical
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>>154561258
Oh no I know what I did yesterday and I apologize for my poorly planned shit, I'm just wondering in general considering you seem to hold a heavy grudge against me

Just a tip though, because I know it's you, it's pretty ironic to accuse someone of being a ''wall who doesn't listen'' while at the same time muting them without listening to what they have to say
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>>154561258
Consider the idea of a falseflag for A. Fucking. Second.
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>>154561573
I give up
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>>154542265
>>154542417

don't tempt me by deleting the post, what was it?
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>>154561384
Going full ad hominem won't help, especially when you accuse me of being like 5 different people, which just shows how many are tired of your shit. Yes, I am one of them, but that doesn't make my arguments less valid. Filtered.
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I was hoping to get some of that juicy AA6 footage from the trick dude so I could go ahead and rip gunbailiff since he has like 3 emotes.

But dude not on. I'll try later.
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>>154561940
>which just shows how many are tired of your shit

I've literally been never told anything like this until yesterday by just one person, same person who right now coincidentally is ''muting'' me

Unless you want to consider thread shitposting as evidence?

You also don't seem to know what an ''ad hominem'' even is considering I did not namecall you at all

But if I had to namecall I guess I'd just call you a childish autist, because that's how you've been behaving ever since that VR case
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>>154562051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I02yUEVZoR0
Now fuck off
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>>154561940
>filtering an anonymous
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To fix Characters with over 20 buttons:

1. Remove all buttons from the emotions folder labeled past 20.
2. In the char.ini, swap the definitions for button 11 and button 21.
3. Test the character, make any further appropriate changes.
4. You're done!
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>>154562815
>1. Remove all buttons from the emotions folder labeled past 20.

So basically this is not a fix at all
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>>154563364
It's the fix posted by CFW aka the fucks who made the shit.
Also there's a dropdown bar for emotes anyway so it should be fine, anon.
>>
Test server is up for those that wish to try out all the characters and funk.
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>>154563465
Yes but what about characters who have more than ten emotes per page?

Are they just fucked?
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>>154561931

pls respond, 4chan archive just shows a pastebin that's been deleted.
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>>154563660
No, you apply the fix and use the dropdown menu
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>>154563660
Refer to this. (Although I've yet to delete my buttons and edit my char.ini itself.)
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Kinda salty the copying rotoscope thing didn't work. But here's the other version completely re-ripped.

Lessee how it looks.
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Here's how we're going to work about the client update

- The update will be released for the new client
- It includes not only the new client but also content too like characters and music
- People will be able to download it and join the test server
- In the test server lies a poll to decide what people's thoughts on switching is

I highly recommend everyone to case in the test server by the way, it'll be easier to spot bugs
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>>154564856
HURRY IT UP THEN!
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>>154562179
Pretty sure he's gonna want the footage that won't look like ass when ripped and was filmed by someone who was actually trying to get the complete idles/talking/etc without skipping through shit.

Also your entire shitposting is getting rediculously retarded.
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New update doc out

Download link in like 9 minutes
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>>154565816
Get ready for the "Oh no" and hotfix's bois
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Wait, Iris' theme is listed in the change log, but we already have it. Does she have 2 themes?
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>>154565149
>wont look like ass
Mate, they're both getting the 3DS quality. And there's a lot more than just this one video on youtube, and a lot more than just this one youtuber.
You have no excuse not to begin at least ripping SOME pose, you're not waiting on anything if you haven't even started.
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>>154566337
Yes
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>>154564856
>>154565816
how do you join the test server?
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>>154567337
Update
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>>154546539
They probably made that for all the people who loved Blackquill back in DD and wanted him and Athena to interact once more.
>>
Oh yes

The update works \(^-^)/
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>>154568809
everyone is either trying to case in area 2 or meming in basement
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>>154569361
Like the old days
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>>154569428
yup
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>>154556746
>it's not us who's working on it, it's 3-5 other ponyfuckers
can't wake up
>>
Please post Ini fixes and any bugs you find here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rP31hpXIuJnD-vlF7hfRvykr1AQFDZIualbwfxK5OoU/edit
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AREA 2 OF TEST SERVER BUILDING
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>>154556242
The best way to get experience is to play. I'd suggest taking a support role, being Support Defense or Support Prosecution. You don't really have to say anything, just pay attention to the case and act as a co-counsel for your lead. Try to find important details, other contradictions your bench missed, or suggest questions during CC. [Type in brackets to whisper to your bench.]

Same as the games, burden of proof is on defense. Prosecution calls a detective which defense CE's. They give requests and call the detective again later to hear findings. Prosecution typically gets two other witnesses they call and basically the meat of the case is cross-examination and debates after an objection is made.

Server is still pretty empty but I'll likely start building one soon in a few hours when people start trickling in. The evidence is mostly prewritten during building (everyone 'boots) and witness testimonies are a mix of improv and prewritten. Everything else is improv.

Signup by typing /doc in OOC after you have an OOC name and are in a courtroom and write yourself in to sign up.
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>>154554385
ONLY 12 PEOPLE ONLINE
LUPADIM QUICK
REMOVE DANGAN RONPAS
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>>154570886
during CE*
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All of the rippers are really in your fucking face aren't they?

>hey guys I'm gonna rip this char hear me I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it
>Hey I'm looking for Footage so I can RIP this character oh btw I'm the one who's gonna rip him so no else should try cus I'm doing it
>see that character you're witnessing as? Well It was ripped by ME!
>lol just ripped this character give me feedback but I will only listen to the praise and not any of the constructive criticism
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>>154572974
nice falseflag
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>>154573020
Tbh the rippers do infact do that shit from time to time so fuck off
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>>154573124
no
>>
So, since apollo is staying in kura'in, are we finally going to get a phoenixless aa game?
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>>154573218
nah next game will be Apollo in Khura'in and Phoenix in Japanifornia
>>
>come to the thread for the first time in a while
>there was a NINTH LESBIAN SLUMBER PARTY

Jesus Christ, you guys.
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>>154573332
There were more than 9. We're only counting 9 though I guess.

There were at least 20. Spin offs?
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Figured out how to get unbanned from the client. I'll post the guide when I get home from class.
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>>154573645
I don't have a reaction image that's disgusted enough for what I'm reading.
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>the entirety of 6-1
>the first time Objection 2016 played
>the first time I'm Fine played
>Leifa/Rayfa "breakdown" + the Magistrate schooling her in the middle of court.
>only on 1st day trial of 6-2

This game's up there with DGS and AAI2, isn't it?
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Test server needs a witness 2 and a judge!
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Press F to pay respects.
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>>154574943
RIP best character in the game
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>>154574943
A dragon never yields.
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Is it me or Apollo and Dhurke share an emote (pic related)?
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>>154574943
>the moment his spirit appears in the final cutscene
>>
APOLLO AND NAYUTA
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>>154576581
ARE LOVERS
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>Miss Maya's!... She's been arrested!
post your reaction when
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>>154578232
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>>154578232
>Maya is arrested and kidnapped in the same game
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don't die
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>>154575870
I don't have the image that is related to this, but that's because they're related. Since they're related, they share emotes.
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>>154582332
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>>154583076
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>>154583076
This is beautiful.
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>>154573332

If you're talking about LSP 9/11 that one was actually quite fun.
It reached a proper verdict and wrapped up in about three hours.
Shame for the second witness however.
They didn't get to be indicted or cross-examined properly.
I know I was laughing the entire trial.
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>>154584117
>Greg is Allah
>>
New client is fine.
>>
Starting to get used to some of the new buttons but the def bar still annoys me.

Am I autistic?
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>>154588121
The color?
Green makes sense for the games but I personally prefer blue as I figured it represented the Defense better (with red for Prosecution).
It is a multiplayer game, after all.
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>>154588121
>>154588305
Green = Protagonist's health
Blue = Defense's health
Red = Prosecution's health
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>Adachi blows the fucking server away
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>tfw Gina is the mastermind of DGS's last case
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Are you guys ready?
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>>154592054

little jarring how he suddenly loses all outline in the last frame.
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How do I connect to the test server?
I updated but I don't see it
>>
Well I tried to do a Johnny Emote and shit hit the fan.

Avi files won't load in my AE, apparently I need to update codecs or some shit. Google's kinda being a pain about that. I'll figure it out after Myriam is done.
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>>154592225
Just wait for the good DGS video to come out honestly.
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>>154592054
This looks very bad... Maybe on a background?
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>>154592336
I want Johnny so much, good luck anon.
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>>154592635
That's okay, some guy on TFL linked it in ooc. one background image coming right up
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>>154592901
Oh, so I was right about my thoughts.

That Holmes is already included in the 1.8 client full download. He's awful as you acn see.
>>
For real though how do I get to the test server?
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>>154593008
Download update
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>>154593152
I did that but no new servers are available
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>>154593395
Are you checking the public server list, and not the favorites?
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>>154593483
No I checked the favorites and all I get are
Attorney Online Vidya (Dedicated)
Attorney Online Vidya (Athena Edition)
Attorney Online Vidya (Temporary)
and Attorney Online Vidya (Mod Exam)
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>>154593674
As I said

Check the public server list

NOT

The favorites

Or put:

51.255.160.217:50005:Attorney Online Vidya (Test Server)

In your "serverlist.txt" in the "base" folder.
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>>154592986
Quite.
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>>154593738
pub servers weren't loading for me
It's working now
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>>154593816
It almost looks like he's camoflaging into the wall.
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>>154592771
I'll try. For now I'm just going to worry about Myriam and deal with the Johnny Avi Bullshit later.

Speaking of... here have this
>>
You know what we need?
More Edgeworth.
We need DD Edgeworth, SoJ Edgeworth, PLvsPW:AA Edgeworth and Anime Edgeworth rips post haste.
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>>154597975
Phoenix please
>>
Why is Iris the smollest and cutest loli?
>>
What's up with the defense having meltdowns mid-case? This isn't the first time that it's happened.
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>>154601865
>loli
>cute
Pedophilia of fictional girls is still pedophilia. Please remove yourself from my general.
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>Bench emotes

God why. Well here's an attempt. I made two alternate versions because of that testimony thing that overlaps the emote. So here's the 1st version with the testimony frame included.
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>>154602265

Nigga there is nothing wrong with calling a young girl cute.
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>>154602560
And without the testimony frame.

Tell me which one looks better. I already have a preference but wanna hear from the people who will actually be playing it.
>>
Anybody have any details on the (supposed) three CT's happening on Saturday?
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>>154602560
These are probably the hardest to get around. When the very witness stand has to be involved. Makes it extremely difficult to have Means damage or Jinxies mirror plate emotes.
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>>154604712
Three? What?
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>This entire case
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>>154605049
I heard there were something like three. I would appreciate it if somebody told me at what times they start, so I can decide on which one to be in.
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Why is it so satisfying to see Mias get blown out and be demoralized?
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>>154607073
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>>154604937
You *could* do them in the same style that meme's other bench emotes are done.

I woulda done that for Jinxie's mirror plate if there was the ipad footage for it, but for some reason we don't have ipad footage for that entire chapter.

I'm just going to use the 2nd emote. I got another couple bench emotes to do...
I want to die.
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>>154607417

NOBODY on twitch currently has any ios DD footage to fill the gaps in ours. it's the worst.
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>That one player who uses the ooc "Names" and plays Mia just to meme.
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>>154607862

you mean Names?
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>>154608164
Names quit months ago. "Names" is a massive memester that keeps that bullshit alive.
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>people start meming in master, see pic.
>this happens

TrixiesJumpRope: Uh can 4chan please get out of the master chat?
Yewlad: Uh, who hosts master server
Yewlad: oh wait
TrixiesJumpRope: Well 4chan shouldnt have the master server
TrixiesJumpRope: you dumbasses just stole it

TrixiesJumpRope: why u gon raid it like u do everything else
Yewlad: >u gon raid
Yewlad: bait
honklord: I want my safe space where people dont just assume my pronouns
Berlitz: How do you even raid master chat?

>it keeps going on
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>>154609053

All me
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>>154609053
Can we agree yo bully all these people?
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>>154602560
Why are you so lazy to just not put the testimony thing on there just move it god damn man
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>Peaches are a favored delicacy here in Khura'in
>They happen to be a personal favorite of mine
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>>154614072

>Turkey, a favourite of mine.
>>
Threadly reminder to eat, /aog/.
Eat at least once a day.
Remember to archive your cases on the Wiki archive.
Last but not least, remember to check the polls document every now and then.
>>
new client is ass

ALSOOOOOOO LUPA why did my Darklaw suggestion on the suggestion doc not make it into the new update??
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>>154617591

The devs for the client edit have a google site here:
https://sites.google.com/site/attorneyonlinedev/home

They have a page for reporting bugs and requesting/removing features which I know some of you would like.

They are supposedly working on the buttons thing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xScarqBkSHA
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>>154592054
holy shit you bet I am

I WAITED MONTHS FOR THIS
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>>154628148
>>
>Rhoda deleted his steam account

Is the 4th time the charm?
>>
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Hazama when?
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>>154632845
Nobody gives a shiiit.
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>>154621643
>https://sites.google.com/site/attorneyonlinedev/home
1.8.2 is out.
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No Tricks or Gimmicks, only the truth.
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>>154637280

>1.8.2
>Only file in it is a txt file I already have in my folder
>It's a fucking AO log from some case

What the fuck is this?
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>>154642117
Obviously it overwrites it, anon.
TOTALLY FIXED
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>>154644089

Except it doesn't and it's the same thing we already have.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>154640037
Raya a cute
CUTE
U
T
E
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I just had an idea to help AA6 rippers.
Since the text box that blocks the bottom half of characters isn't there when you're selecting evidence to present or an option to talk, you can cleanly rip idle animations that occur at the end of a conversation. A couple of examples:
Albhi looks sad and has his dog lick at him when you present him with irrelevant evidence in the bazaar in 6-3
also, Rayfa looks smug when you ask her "What to do?" when you're supposed to first go to the bazaar in 6-3. Note: Go somewhere other than the detention center to ask this, otherwise the bottom of her model gets cut off

When I get the time to, I'll start a list on every possible opportunity to ask questions/present evidence, and what animations you can rip from them.
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>>154647175
>no way to hide the text box
Why?
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>>154648037
Technically there is, but only for half a second when you open or close the log. Which is fine if the animation is completely stationary underneath the textbox, since you can just copy that frame over for the entire emote but they've been adding a lot of dynamic talk and idle animations which means having to open and close the log 10 times per animation
>>
but what about the memes
>>
>try to build in an area
>everybody just memes and rolls in ooc, mostly people completely unrelated to the case who don't even plan to sign up or spectate
>two prosecutors leave after signing up due to degeneracy and memes

When are Lounge and Basement going to go back to Lounge and Basement?
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>>154650890
>try to build in an area
there's literally 9 people online.
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>>154651234
It's because there's too many DRs. We need to remove them to get people back.
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>>154651234
Are you not on the test server?
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>>154651387
>test server
>>
>DC
>nothing showing up in server list
>>
Guys, it's over.
>>
RIP masterserver
>>
Anyone who wants to come to the test server, here's the address

51.255.160.217:50005:Attorney Online Vidya (Test Server)

Add that to your serverlist, hopefully the whole thing with masterserver blows over soon.
>>
Anyone notice shitposting as increased tenfold ever on the test server?
Like people can do what they want but I wonder if there's a psychological reason for this and it's interesting.
Perhaps it's due to it just being a "test" or something they think nothing matter, because they think "Oh it's temporary" or "Oh it's a drill." they just let it all go.
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>>154654767
whenever I add it to the server list my client freaks out
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>>154655984
well now my ENTIRE thing is fucked
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>>154656606
well never mind its fixed
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>>154655742
>Perhaps it's due to it just being a "test"
Yes.
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Why does rak shitpost in cases he's not in?

>comes in as french larry, says wi
>everyone freaks out and says wi in return
>lag remover starts playing
>case momentum suddenly stops and shitposting ensues
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>>154660268
who?
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>>154660268
And yet in cases he's actually a part of he's very serious, fully focused on moving the case along, and acts pretty smart. It's confusing.
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Can someone give a rip of the "WITNESS TESTIMONY" thing that keeps flashing on the top of the screen? It is for the new client, not the 1.8 thing, an actually new thing.
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>>154662946
And also a good 40x40 transparent background psyche lock please
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lesbians
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>>154662946
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>>154663071

I'm pretty sure someone posted it previously.
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>>154663547
In another thread you mean?
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>>154663818

Yeah, didn't you ask for this before? I remember someone posting it.
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>>154664048
Nope, my first time asking this.
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>>154664172
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>>154640037
>le tsundere flat chested loli
I'm sick of this meme.
>>
Hey guys don't you think [namefag I don't like] is annoying?

Avoid all cases with them
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>>154663071
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>>154666706

>70 x 70
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>>154666806
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>>154667092

40 BLACK PSYCHO LOCKS APPEAR
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>>154667261
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>>154666451
Oh man Fuck that guy
>>
can someone please make a template for the class trials and put it in the template library?
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>>154667813

Done.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f92G1VITBmveWvdemNxuc1r_5M2XtsnrX-6KNdsGW2s/edit?usp=sharing

Template library is view only so I can't add it.
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>page 10
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>there are people who are actually angry over Apollo being the real mc in SoJ and Maya barely getting anything

you wanted your shitty waifu back for no reason?

well there she is, being irrelevant to the main plot as it should be as her story already ended
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>>154672043
Edgeworth is a better waifu than Maya
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>>154672043
>He hasn't ignored all mainline AA games that came out after T&T

Shu Takumi wanted Nick's story to end with a single trilogy, and as far as we're concerned it did.
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>>154672320
Which is exactly why the game focuses way more on Apollo
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>>154672320
>playing only the first three games
>not wanting to experience Phoenix' slowly maturing proces
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>>154672378
>Wanting to play as a shitty shonen HOTBLOODED FRIENDSHIP man over Nick

Nah, the Apollo Justice trilogy is shit.
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>>154672619
Yes keep that salt going

And looking at the post-credits scene, it seems the next game will be even more focused on Apollo
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>>154672546
>He thinks Nick didn't mature perfectly over the first three games.
>Implying edgy hobo man is "mature."

>>154672902
>He thinks I give a shit about AA when DGS is better than AJ, DD, and SoJ combined.
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>>154673140
DGS may have a good cast, but its cases get nowhere near as interesting as SoJ's

Plus DGS is full of forgettable witnesses
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>>154672902
Actually Gyakuten Saiban 7 is already 1/5th of the way done and will focus primarily on Nahyuta and Athena. I specifically didn't call it "the next game" due to the fact that Dai Gyakuten Saiban 2 is 4/5th of the way done
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>>154673293
>I haven't played DGS: The Post
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>>154673293
Do you even know what DGS is?
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I wonder if I'm going to need to kinda make a custom talking sprite for this one. Maybe make her talk with her pen not spinning (eyes bobbing to similate lipfap) and then the pen spins as the idle.
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>>154673827
FIVE MONTHS FOR A FUCKING BOX.

NIGGER WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
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>>154673797
Of course! It's gotta be Dat Guy Susano-o!
...or whatever his name is. Youse's impressed with my knowledge, I know.
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>>154673827
Timing feels off on this as well. That pen spin happens a little too fast for me. I currently have it at the footage's .03 per frame, but of course PS can't handle decimals since it's likely like .032699999 per frame or something like that.

.04 per frame? I could try that.
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>>154673430
>and will focus primarily on Nahyuta and Athena
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>154673140
>>He thinks Nick didn't mature perfectly over the first three games.
Clearly you haven't played the games.
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>>154674150
What? But I thought you people all liked Athena. Personally I hate her, but with how many people consider her a waifu, I just has to let everyone know how popular she was in the west.
And Nahyuta they were planning from the start. Probably from even before AA6 finished development, actually.
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>>154674350
Everyone hates Athena actually. Her design is horrible and her character makes me want to kill myself.
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>>154673618
>>154673797
I watched all of it on Youtube

Case 1 is interesting, case 2 was good and sad, case 3 was pretty unique but aside from that it's also kinda boring, case 4 is boring as fuck and case 5 is a weak final case with a weak final boss

And yes, the witnesses are indeed forgettable, they have not really anything interesting going.
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>>154674282
Clearly you haven't understood them beyond a surface level, champ.

>>154674487
/v/ is actually REALLY in love with Athena.
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>>154574653
So is it really almost as good as AAI2?
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>>154674569
enjoy your
opinion
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>>154674569
>I watched it on youtube

Glad we know you don't have a worthwhile opinion, famalamadingdong.
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>>154673870
5 months?

I suppose I did attempt ripping Scuttlebutt waaay back when right after doing rpbin.

But looking at my work back then right after robin I was doing it a very shitty way. You see how robin was. I was ripping from the wiki gifs.
Eventually I got some more experience (Orla, Aura, Jinxie) and I've only now just started working on her again. It's only been like 3 weeks since I started working on her.

I'm only doing her during my free time between class and work. And even then I'm not always fucking taking the free time I get to rip of all things.

She's just about done. Got like 4 more preanims to do (Which consist of two fucking bench emotes, an emote I'm missing a slice of footage for, and then her breakdown), and then all these idles which take no time at all.

Speaking of bench emotes.
>>154602732
This is obviously going to look odd next to all the non-bench rips. But atleast it doesn't have a fucking testimony thingy covering the rip anymore. Her pandabox happysway has the testimony thing covering it for a full 10 frames. And then there's the fact of the bench.

Any ideas? I don't think she does that emote with pandabox outside of trial.
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>>154674582
But we are not /v/.

She's been annoying since AJ but the shit she does in AA6 takes the cake.
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>>154674840
>Athena
>AJ
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Why is this still not in the music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkXn8XhXglc
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>>154674350
I think people only like Athena for the porn of her, but besides that everyone hates her.
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>>154674840
Since DD, you mean.
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>>154675007
Yes.
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>>154674785
Please explain how Crogrey was in any way shape or form an interesting final boss

You know what they should have done? Keep Megundal alive and bring in back in case 5 so you can finally take him down. That would been one hundred times more interesting.
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>>154674981
Athena is a bitch but I'd scuttle Myriam's butt
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Is Nayuta the most beautiful prosecutor in the franchise?
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>>154674981
Guess that makes sense. All I know is people kept jerking off to her for months, and that's why I threw her name in for GK7. It might be early enough to ask for a character swap, but it would look bad on my credibility, and I can't think of a good person to replace her with, with the case that's already been made.
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>>154675216
good thing Athena doesn't really do anything in SoJ aside from getting a small filler case that is trial-only
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>>154673430
So AA is over? No more Investigations? No more Gummy and Oldbag? No more Edgeypoo as prosecutor? No more Phoenix (he retires?)

Well shit, this franchise has reached its end I'm afraid. Frankly I don't give a shit about Athena and Nahyuta, or any other new shitty characters they spew out. Fucking retarded Capcom not knowing how to handle IPs.

At this point I'm just hoping we get a spin-off "what-if" series where Phoenix is the old Feeny we all know and love and Edgeworth is still his bitter rival.
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>>154675430
Are you actually taking that post seriously?

Are you autistic?
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>>154675602
No, but I have no doubt AA7 will focus on some new shitty character and Athena

Capcom is where the autism is at, and the shitty kind
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>>154675715
>I haven't played SoJ and here I am spouting retarded shit
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>>154675778
What retarded shit? Are you the retard here? Isn't it fucking obvious what AA7 will be about?

No, I haven't played SoJ and I don't want to, at this point anything without Gumshoe or some other staple character I do not even consider worthwhile.
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>>154675430
Far from it. While it's true that Gyakuten Kenji 3 isn't in development yet, I think I'm wearing them down with my insistence that the west loved GK2 despite it not being officially localized, and that a GK Trilogy would be extremely well received both in Japan and America.
Oldbag is the first witness in the trial that has been written for Gyakuten Saiban 7, as Miles Edgeworth has been murdered and the prime suspect and defendant... well you can probably already guess who he is.
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what do you think about 1.8, fellow youths
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>>154676060
Shit mang does your grandma work at Shu Takumi's
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>>154676026
So you have no idea what happens in SoJ and you say ''it's fucking obvious what AA7 will be about''

Furthermore, having always the same characters gets stale as fuck, one of the weakest points of AAI1 was all those trilogy characters shoe-horned in just to appease retards like you

And it's actually ironic given how the DLC case of SoJ has Miles prosecuting with Larry as one of the witnesses. So you literally have no idea what you are on about.

Furthermore DGS wouldn't even be a thing if they catered to you wanting to stick to the same old cast

>>154676060
fuck off
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>>154676328
>And it's actually ironic given how the DLC case of SoJ has Miles prosecuting with Larry as one of the witnesses. So you literally have no idea what you are on about.
And the DLC case is literally filler.

Fuck off stupid DDfag
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>>154675430
What's wrong with Phoenix and Edgeworth being best friends?
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>>154676470
>And the DLC case is literally filler.

So what?
What's the issue here?

Also I like how you assume that Athena is at the center of attention in SoJ when she actually isn't, just further showing how you have no fucking clue what you are on about
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>>154676187
Shu hasn't been in the mainstream Gyakuten games in a while. Like I said before, I'm primarily involved in making Gyakuten Saiban more accessible to the foreign market, starting with Spirit of Justice. I've had some interaction with him, trying to get DGS2 a western localization, and he seems an alright dude, but he doesn't want the hands of a filthy gaijin like me to taint his work, so almost all of what I know about it comes from talking with other employees who worked on both DGS2 and GS6. Mainly the artists, who have shown me some really neat designs including the prosecutor and final boss of DGS2

>>154676328
If you don't want spoilers, just filter me
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>>154676519
Nothing is wrong with that, the real problem are all these new shitty characters being introduced while the old staple ones get completely shafted, for no reason at all

If you're going to do that then give us a spin-off series featuring the old staples, then I wouldn't complain

>>154676604
>What's the issue here?
The issue is that it is literally a filler case, Edgeworth has been reduced to a fucking filler character. Correct me if I'm wrong, he plays no relevant role in SoJ, no? Just as I thought.

>Also I like how you assume that Athena is at the center of attention in SoJ when she actually isn't, just further showing how you have no fucking clue what you are on about
I never claimed this, I said Athena and some other new shitty character will be the main characters in AA7, seeing the shitty direction we're headed.
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reminder that the SoJ dlc case is an alternative ending
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Server is offline again

wew lads
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>>154674804
Thanks anon

To be quite honest I don't think she will be used a lot but Johnny will definitely be a solid choice for witnesses and detective (if you are planning on doing him)
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

GET OFF THE STUPID TEST SERVER

GET

ON

THE

MAIN

SEVER

AND

CASE
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>>154678495
no
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>>154678495
Why is the test server even up right now?
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>>154678495
Lupa recommended we case on the test server.
So we've been casing on the test server, just finished one that was fairly normal.
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>>154678290
I still am but had issues when I took a crack at one of his emotes yesterday.

AE wouldn't read the avi footage files. I kinda need it to do that.
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Why is the accused allowed to stand next to the devil lawyer?
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>>154676936
>The issue is that it is literally a filler case, Edgeworth has been reduced to a fucking filler character. Correct me if I'm wrong, he plays no relevant role in SoJ, no? Just as I thought.

And where's the issue? The game is not about Miles, stop sticking to the same old characters

>I never claimed this, I said Athena and some other new shitty character will be the main characters in AA7, seeing the shitty direction we're headed.

And how can you claim this when you have not played SoJ?
Wanna know where AA7 is headed? Considering it ends with Phoenix and Thalassa talking about how it's time to tell Apollo and Trucy ''the truth, it clearly implies Apollo and Trucy will be central characters. Absolutely nothing implies Athena is gonna get a main role when's actually barely relevant in SoJ.

You're basically judging a game you have not played
In the words of Nahyuta: ''just let it go, and move on''
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Why is there a delay in flipping pages on the new CSS?
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>>154679275
REEEEEEE PUT IT IN SPOILER TAGS
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>>154679275
when she is*
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>>154676936
You're the reason we're not getting DGS, shoot yourself
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>>154679275
The Phoenix trilogy ended with AA3. The Apollo trilogy ended with AA6. AA7 is going to be Athena's game, however Nahyuta's going to strongly tie in with Apollo during what is planned to be the 4th case of the game. During that case, Apollo learns about his and Trucy's lineage after Trucy's murder
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>>154679532
DGS is a spin-off series, literally has nothing to do with the main series, fuck off

>>154679275
>And where's the issue? The game is not about Miles, stop sticking to the same old characters
Yeah tell that to the old AA players when AJ was first released and Phoenix became a hobo
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>>154679723
Phoenix wasn't even meant to be in AJ, they forced him exactly because of people like you who can't let it go and move on

And yes, that anon is right, Capcom thinks that all the West wants is Phoenix Wright again because of people like you and so we won't get DGS
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>>154676936
>filler cases are bad
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>>154679890
Stop falseflagging

All I want is Gumshoe and maybe some other characters to return

That's all I'm asking

I'm not a Phoenixfag at all
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>>154680103
And Gumshoe has no place whatsoever in SoJ, neither would ''other characters''

Shoe-horning in characters just to appease fans only leads to bad writing.
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>>154680224
Introducing new shitty characters for no reason at all when there are perfectly fine old characters who can fit the desired role is not even bad writing, it's shit writing.
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>>154680390
That only leads to staleness, would you really want to always have the same prosecutor every game?

And you don't even know how the SoJ characters are because you have not played the game

You've lost this '''''argument''''', let it go and move on
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>>154680390
Yeah let's always have Edgeworth and Gumshoe and no new witnesses at all, all the games should only features characters seen in the trilogy as witnesses

In fact, let's not even have new villains, let's stick to Matt and Dahlia
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>>154680390
WHO IS EMA
WHO IS LARRY BUTZ
WHO IS OLDBAG
WHO IS THE STEEL SAMURAI
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>>154680942
Stop shitposting and missing the point entirely.

>>154680613
It is clear that you are a fan of DD, nothing against that, but I quite like the trilogy and the old characters, and the nods to them in Investigations. I hope Capcom sees reason one day.

>>154682191
People
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>>154682341
You posted about the lack of old characters in the newest games. I literally gave you a few examples to prove how retarded you sound and you respond with a shitpost. 10/10
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>>154682512
No, you're the shitposting motherfucker, stop. Ema is not the only person to appear in the trilogy, neither is Larry.
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>>154682341
>It is clear that you are a fan of DD

I'm not actually, not my fault SoJ is actually a good game
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>>154682191
>WHO IS THE STEEL SAMURAI
Will Powers
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>>154682708
No, it's obviously Larry.
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>>154682610
That is your personal opinion, DD friendo.
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You've got 10 seconds to predict AA7 and AA8.
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>>154683240
Athena focused game for 7.
Apollo's T&T with Kristoph as final boss again for 8.
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>>154683240

AA8 Phoenix dies.
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>>154683240
>AA7
It will tie up the remaining loose ends from AJ and finally address Apollo and Trucy being siblings

>AA8
No idea
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>>154683371
But Kristoph is dead.
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>>154683393
What is there to address, everyone knew they were siblings since AJ
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>>154683412
So was Dahlia
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>>154683487
And Maya.
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>>154683412
Why do you think they brought channeling techniques again anon?
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>>154683478
Apollo and Trucy don't know you dumbass
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>>154683594
Who cares
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>>154683478
Nobody has told them shit about them being siblings.
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>>154683578
Honestly, I think the story around Apollo and Kristoph is finished. The Gavin brothers however...
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>>154683816
Not really, remember apollo never defeated Kristoph, it was the jurist system.
I say they'll bring him back as final boss one more time now that Apollo is more competent.
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>>154683594
Nick is waiting until after they fug so he has super eyehax grandchildren
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>>154684050
Why the fuck would anyone channel Kristoph's spirit just so they could argue back and forth again? There's literally no point in doing that. Dead is dead. Kristoph a shit.
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>>154684445
>he wouldn't bring back the dead so he can win an argument
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>>154684571
You might as well design a new rival for Apollo, or better yet, have Klavier follow in his brother's footsteps.
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>>154684676
Get butthurt and ruin someone's life?
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so I was snooping around the files in SoJ and while I couldn't find any character models I could import, I found some hidden dialogue.
One such line had potential to be used instead of "The queen's secret art" where Nick had the option to say 春美ちゃん... with the conversation going (rough translation after the first line, since it was never localized):
Rayfa: Hmph, it is something a foreigner such as you could never hope to guess.
Nick: Is that so? Well, I would be happy to take you up on that wager. Could it perhaps be...
[spirit channeling?]

Rayfa: Wh-what?! How could someone so ignorant...
Oh-ho! I get it! You must have asked that tour boy about it when I wasn't watching over you.
It seems even a dense foreigner wishes to know the greatness of the royal family.

Nick: Actually, I'm good friends with someone who can channel spirits back home.
Rayfa: Huh?! Impossible! You... you dare make a mockery of the royal family? Of my mother--the queen's--secret art?!
Nick: I'm not trying to make a mockery of anyone. Furthermore, Pearls has been able to channel spirits since she was eight.
Rayfa: Enough! Cease these lies or I will have you executed for lese-majeste!
Nick: (Ulp... I guess I should treat carefully from here on out.)
S-Sorry, I was just trying to lighten the mood.

Rayfa: Hrrm... I guess I can let you off with a warning, barbed head. But next time, you will be "no head".
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>>154685545
I hate Rayfa.
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>>154686242
How can you hate that cute smug face? That cute flustered face? That cute pouting face? That cute sad face? That cute thinking face?
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>>154686324
Because
>>154665638
>>
is there a ct tomorrow?
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>>154686816

I hear there are going to be three on Saturday or Suday.
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>>154687282

>that many on one day

holy fug just have some a day before or something
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>>154674487
What's wrong with Athena?
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>>154687448
which is why I'm thinking of moving mine to sunday

thing is though I don't even know who's writing them and what time exactly on saturday if even saturday they are GM'ing theirs
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>>154686816
>>154687282
>>154687448
I'm going to try to have one ready for tomorrow.

Technically I could finish it tonight but not sure people would nitekrew to do it.
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So how long is the test server staying up?
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>>154688438
There's a weird bug that makes it freeze as you have all noticed

It'll be up until that bug is fixed
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>>154687795

>going to the beach on sunday
>no PC
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Let's rank every case in the series.
One case per thread.
I hope this can brew some interesting discussion in the thread and persuade some people in /aog/ to start playing Ace Attorney because people who haven't yet do exist..
Starting with The First Turnabout.
What do you think of it?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11220248
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Hey guys. Lead dev for AO2 here(the cross-platform C++ remake from scratch). Actually getting real close to completion, but there are some details I'm honestly not sure about and to be honest I've never even played a real case ever. So. I'm wondering a bit which direction to move from here.

Probably the main point here is.. evidence. Yes, evidence. What I've currently done so far is just copy AO feature for feature, but as I reached evidence.. I realized there was no more feature. So, I am genuinely wondering just how you want evidence made. There probably will be separate sets of evidence for each area but who should add it how should it be added etc etc etc etc. Currently, the evidence part of the client will most likely be changeable between evidence, settings(there will be a lot of settings) and areas(with fancy background previews and everything). I'm thinking "profiles" doesnt warrant its own section, because its technically evidence and not used in every case(and UI space is scarce). But again I'm frankly quite lost on how to make this. So, things I could need:

-Ideas
-Concepts
-Suggestions
-UI drafts(dont worry, ms paint drawings suffice)
-Features
-Just comments on what AO2 should be like

So yeah. Here's the Github page, it's open source. But be warned, the code puts most Italian restaurants to shame.

https://github.com/AO-devgroup/Attorney-Online-Client

The DL link is outdated by the way, it probably wont work. I might make another alpha release tomorrow.
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>>154691218

evidence box should be removed to be honest lad
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>>154691218
Best case scenario: Make it so that each evidence slot can be modified at real time so that others can see. Remember to make it area specific too. Let people present it and have those icons appear in-game when someone presents it depending on their position like in the real games.

Worst case scenario: Just remove the evidence box
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>>154691218

I agree with >>154691394
Docs already do us good and you can change evidence on them on the fly, and you don't need to worry about size.
Your work is very appreciated though.
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>>154691218
Best thing that you could possibly do is have the name, description and image editable in client and have it so a character can highlight a piece and when they speak the image will appaer in the top left corner, or something. But as said already we don't even use it currently so you could pretty much drop it and release as is
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>>154689996
It's a tutorial case. Not much to say about it other than the introduction of characters.

>>154691218
The evidence box is minor stuff, seeing as we just consult case docs for evidence anyway. If you can't figure anything out for it, just drop it.
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Downprioritize evidence. Got it. Worth mentioning right away is that the new client IS scaleable. See picture.
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>>154691218
A lot of pages for emotes.
Make it open source.
Unlimited Char select stuff.
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>>154691706

I know, anon.
I'm going case by case though as to not miss any of them.
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>>154691218
Also text box like in the update 1.8. I forgot about that.
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>>154692102

This is all literally done already. I'll just post the changelog here.

"firstmode" in char.ini is now obsolete
"number" in char.ini is now obsolete
the entire misc folder is now obsolete
"char_chosen" pngs are now obsolete
"button_off" pngs are now obsolete
Moved character icons from base/misc/DemoThings/ to their respective character folder
Removed emote limit
Removed character limit
Increased characters per page from 20 to 90
The client is now customizable(added theme support)
Added actual error messages when something is wrong
Added "config.ini" with user-defined settings
Slightly changed the UI to make the playing area clearer
Slightly rearranged the directory structure
Client window is now scaleable
Added "change character" button
Servers now show up all at once in the public serverlist
Added dynamic sizing to char select(remove blank char pages and remove character limit, essentially)
Loading times have been reduced drastically
Readded the "spectator" functionality
Added moving speedlines(in both defense and prosecution directions)
Added indicator for passworded characters
Improved network protocol

FYI "drastically reduced loading times" means, after some testing, for sub-100 character servers and a sub-300ms latency. loading should not be more than a second or two.

>>154692261

1.8 didnt like my Windows VM, please elaborate on this text box
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>>154692605

>readded the "spectator" functionality
>passworder characters

Can you elaborate on these two things?
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>>154692605
Don't know exactly what he's talking about but I do know the old client at least used to have the box you type into overlap with the main window the sprites are in so you couldn't see the bottom 16 pixels. I think the dialogue box was also too high as a result of that. It might be fixed now.
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>>154693032

"spectator" was originally a feature that was removed years ago by the original creator. It's essentially "skipping" character selection and jumping straight into the courtroom without emote buttons. It's nice if you want to watch a case but don't want to take up a character.

And I think passworded characters still is a thing? Anyways, there is basically a text field on the charselect and some characters(specified by the server) need a password to be picked.

>>154693163

Should be fixed.
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>>154691218
to be honest senpai just drop the feature. it's not something we need, docs do the evidence for us.

the big question though is what to do with the space. at this point I might suggest using the space for more emote buttons on screen at once, separating the music and the areas so they aren't the same scroll list for some reason. and change the music search to be "anywhere in the string" and not fixed to "starts with the characters"
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>>154691795
this looks really good so far
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>>154693558
In my opinion the best thing to do there would be move the IC history down to there to make it less cramped, and possibly render the in game window at 2x as well.
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>>154693725
that too.
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>>154693725

Not a rendering expert, but wouldn't that blur the sprites?
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Could it be possible to make IC scrollable?
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>>154693974

Not a problem. Can also make text copyable if that's useful.
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>>154694029
>Not a problem. Can also make text copyable if that's useful.

This would be one of the most useful things you could do, actually.
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>>154693896
2x would just make the spirites more pixey since all that would do would be make every pixel be rendered as a 2 by 2 group of pixels
You only get artifacts and shit when you do a non-integer scale
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>>154693896
basically, yes. with a magnification filter, it would look OKAY, but for the most part scaling the sprites up from their native resolution is a bad idea.

>>154694029
yessssss thank you!
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>>154694264
even in an integer scaling, you still come across the issue of the sprite outline looking like complete ass.

this enough is pretty dodgey to look at but it can outweigh the benefit for some people who strain their eyes looking at a 256x192 render window. personally not something i'd use, if it isn't too much hassle for our coder it may be a nice optional feature to be able to scale our render window by 2 in each direction
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>>154694029
One thing we use a lot is stenographers that record all people say.

The absolute best most quality of life thing you could add is an auto steno machine.

Steno example: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1grBFucS3NG4IjZMVA_KisiToH89qxuIts6ynY3mOEwM/

Not the best example though since that style was quite unique, most stenos do this:

WIT: Blablabla
DEF: Blablabla
WIT: blablabla
Pro: Blablabla
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>>154694360
As the other guy said, as long as you multiply by a round number like 2 or 3 you will be able to represent each pixel 1:1, no aliasing or other tricks required.
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>>154694908
an auto steno machine would have to be directly connected to the case doc from the AO client which is not practical. basically we'll still need stenos with the new client

just making the text in the IC log selectable/copyable is enough to reaaally ease the role of the steno, and it's really simple to do in the code so I think that'll be enough.
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>>154694845
Yeah just make it custom so each person can render it as much as they want. I'd personally use 2x, some people would stick to 1x, others would use 4x, etc.
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>>154695352
right, right
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>>154695321
No need to print the steno job to the google document, just make it available in-game
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Here's something to consider.

Some games have higher resolution, like the 3D ones. IS there a way to have, say, a 512x384 character, and render it at 0.5x or something if someone is using 1x?
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>>154695760
having an entire UI built around formatting for the cross examination statements and questions as well as all the other stuff like OS, verdict, evidence, profiles, etc (and everything else a steno would do) would be a bit overwhelming to have in-client i think
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>>154695894
That's possible but there is a very good change it will come out looking a bit shit.
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>>154696013
when the 512x384 sprites are first ripped, they have to be downscaled in the first place to match the 256x192 of the current AO client anyway.

what he's suggesting is leaving them at 512x384 and letting the client do the downscaling automatically at 1x, but if someone's on 2x the sprites will be their native resolution so they look nicer at 2x

although there will be a weird discrepancy at 2x where older sprites will look crummy when upscaled alongside the newer sprites (now in native res) in the same courtroom. so i dunno.
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>>154691218
Option to search for parts of a song in the jukebox (i.e. search for AAI2 will list Pursuit(AAI2), Suspense(AAI2), Questioning - Presto(AAI2), etc. rather than having to search for "Suspe" to go to the top of the list for Suspense tracks)
A second IC chat section which you can both scroll through (to see things you missed) and copy+paste from (to steno easier) -- old client had this but it was hidden to the side and only accessible in fullscreen mode. Would fit nicely in the useless evidence section.
Color palette instead of color button. See literally any image editing software, even the most basic release of MS Paint. You have a palette you can click to select whatever color you want, instead of a button to scroll through a list of colors, that you have to click 6 times if you accidentally click 1 too many times.
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>>154698582
color SWATCHES with standard AA colors like

white, green, red, orange, blue (maybe a few others? idk)

custom color PALETTES are probably a bad idea. we don't need every color ever and if everyone's using any weird custom color they want it's too obscure and the basic colors lose their meaning
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>page ten
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6-3 is a wild rollercoaster of twists and I do not wish to get off. I want to stay on Mr Wright's Wilde Ride.
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>>154701516

Just AA colors please, we don't need fucking namefags going one step further and using their own color.
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>>154701516
I say the more options the better.
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>>154701516
I mean, like, 6 or so squares with clearly defined borders and obvious which square is which color. Black, for normal speech, Green, for testimony, Orange, for asking important questions or presenting evidence, Blue, for thinking, Red, for mods to use to get peoples' attentions. Maybe add White to see if it works better than Black on certain backgrounds.
Just to get rid of that shitty "Press this button 3 times to select orange oops you pressed it 4 times now you're blue press it 4 more times"
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>>154702568
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Datz is the greatest.

That's all I came here to say.
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>>154703313
Datz is a fag
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>>154703313
Datz is hilarious. I would love for him to be ripped.
In fact, everyone in SoJ is great, and would be a great addition to the game, both in a fun and sexual way.
The sprites they have in Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 6 - Spirit of Justice would be a perfect fit in.
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Will the weird discrepancies between language of character names be fixed in the new client? I.e., son having an English name while father has a Japanese name.
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The best moment in all of AA history is when Sirhan Dogen and Shelly de Killer have a showdown in the final case

It alone makes AAI2 the best AA game
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>>154704803
Lol no, what
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>>154706221
Faggot.
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>>154706306
Don't get me wrong, AAI2 is the best game in the series. But not for that.

Thinking that Assassin That Has Like 3 Hours of Screentime 1 vs Assassin That Has Like 3 Hours of Screentime 2 is the best scene of AAI2 just makes me think you have ADHD.

>not when Jeff Master, a great guy, stays in jail for 18 years because of a crime he didn't do
>jail destroyed the poor guy's face, he looks tired and begs for death
>tfw you prove he is innocent and he is released
>he cries of happiness and thinks of Tsukasa
>all that while this theme plays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grpmV7Waq2k

>not when the president of Zheng Fa asked the double to see his son for the last time
>they refused and murdered him

>not when Edgeworth and his crew are casually talking
>suddenly, all out of nothing, Edgeworth points at Simon and says "YOU ARE THE MASTERMIND"
>after hours of a battle of wits every single murder in the game is revealed to have been orchestrated by Simon
>his terrible childhood shows as he explains he merely avenged his father and friends since the law couldn't help him

(Personal note here: Miles is based on Sherlock Holmes but he failed hard here. Sherlock Holmes would have definitely let Simon walk away. He has a saying that when the law can't be enough, revenge is acceptable)

>all that overshadowed by muh duel
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>>154706985
Jeff Master's theme must be the most feeling provoking theme of all themes ever contemplated in AA, including ATT themes.

It is especially shocking when you know his story.
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>>154706985

Holmes isn't actually part of the law system, though.

A theme of the game was Miles finding his reason to be a prosecutor. They worked hard throughout the game to make sure that the law was enough, and it would have gone against that to turn a blind eye to someone who didn't trust it to work out (if that was even possible with the huge number of witnesses present.)

Also, he can plead self-defense for his one actual murder.
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>Franny will never be your tsundere gf

Why live
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>>154710129
STOP RUBBING IT IN
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>>154710129
>that great taste
grill yourself a juicy BURGER
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>>154691218
Evidence would be neat to have. Having to alt tab, or look at a window on the side can waste time and be jarring sometimes, and soul crushing some other times.

Getting everything else done is the priority though, because our docs just werk.
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>>154708370
>Holmes isn't actually part of the law system, though
Oh? Do explain your reasoning on why Sherlock Holmes is not an agent of the law. I've never heard this one before.
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>>154713372
He's a consulting detective who works independently of the Scotland Yard and only takes cases that interest him. All he wants is a challenge for his mind.
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>>154713547
So in order to be part of 20th's London's law system you must be from Scotland Yard? No one else is capable of shaping law, influencing how it is enforced and generating new outcomes? If they can, how are they not law agents?
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>>154713372

He can deliver a criminal to the justice system, but if the justice system is corrupt, then he is not actually a part of it or able to affect the outcome.

Miles is a part of the system that determines the outcome of trials.
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>>154691218
Give the music list collapsible categories. It means you don't have to scroll through a bunch of songs to get to the end of the list, or to get to a specific song choice. I'd also incorporate >>154698582, as that's helpful. And then split the Area list and Music List into two different lists - maybe make them swappable like the Master Chat/Server Chat.

Speaking of the server chat, I'm not sure if it's a bug or not, but I'd give someone a visual representation on what chat they're in. And then let the notifier move depending on which chat has new messages (so, if you're in Master Chat, the yellow dot is on the Server Chat side). And if you really don't want to get rid of the evidence box, allow it to be edited on the fly, with mods able to roll back to an earlier state if needed.
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>>154713928
That'd be true if Sherlock Holmes hadn't been a witnesses in many cases and proved people's innocence there. It was never the plot point of a story and his defense in court is usually mentioned at the end of a tale, but he did that before, so even by your own standards Sherlock Holmes is part of the law system. He regularly forces the culprits to write a signed confession before letting them walk away so he can use it in court if he ever regrets his decision.

The thing is, he doesn't even need to actually step inside a courtroom to be considered part of the law. Unless you are following a strictly positivist doctrine and using only Kelsen's definition of law, you will see that law comprehends much more than what happens inside a courtroom or what is written on a book. A promise between two civilians can already be considered law and change the outcome of trials depending on the judge's mindset. Holmes is definitely one of the gears in London's law contraption, and Miles is not at any higher or lower moral ground.

The difference between Holmes and Miles is how much they crave for justice. Miles doesn't seem to care about it, he is a positivist and a moralist who just wants to see the law enforced, the status quo's preservation, or the "truth" which is just his own way of saying "If you killed and I can prove it you will be punished, else you can go home". Holmes has a more complex feeling towards justice, it is not any news that he constantly breaks the law to fulfill his purposes, and, similarly to that, he never turns in culprits that had justifiable motives.

Miles' character would be much more interesting if he actually held a similar feeling towards law, and it'd make sense since Miles is just Sherlock Holmes with a less eccentric mannerism. In the end, however, the writers were just not bright enough to think of that or something. Maybe it wouldn't work in Japan either since they are very enthusiastic about fulfilling the law to the letter.
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What would you pretend to do with her?

And why is she never used in any online cases?
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What time does the class trial on Saturday start? And on which server? (Dedicated or test?)
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>>154715858

I've used her as a witness a couple of times.
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>>154715858
I've used her a few times.
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I'm not the person you were talking to, but I'll answer you, anyway, at the risk of being treated to a similar personalised deflection.

>>154713845
>>154713372
Detectives and the police are part of the criminal justice system, yes, but they're not part of the legal profession. They're just dumb muscle for it.

>>154714549
>He regularly forces the culprits to write a signed confession before letting them walk away so he can use it in court if he ever regrets his decision.
Blackmail and acts of vigilantism are not legal.

>Holmes is definitely one of the gears in London's law contraption,
I'll explain this very simply for you. He's not a gear for your machine. Detectives and policemen do not give it effect. As a detective, Holmes simply puts things inside the grinder. Sometimes he'll be wrong, and the machine will stutter, choke and angrily regurgitate the poor soul he put it in. The police aren't even necessary for the criminal justice system to function. Private citizens can perform their functions in most western countries.

>That'd be true if Sherlock Holmes hadn't been a witnesses in many cases and proved people's innocence there.
A detective who happens to witness. Anybody can be a witness, not just a detective. Why did you mention this?

These games are fun, yes, but you shouldn't let it run away from you with reality in tow because of some misapplied legal theory.
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>>154691218
I'd rather have a section dedicated to witness written testimonies that can be cycled thru rather than ebendense
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>miles should've let simon walk!
yeah the guy who tried to frame children for crimes two times sure is fine
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>>154716610
This is not how law works
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>>154716334
>I've used her a few times.
That sounded very wrong.
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>>154716904
I noticed a few seconds after i posted so all I could do is hope no one lewd-minded would bring it up
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>people still think Phoenix and Maya are going to end up together
o im laffin
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>>154717206
Technically they would but capcom isn't going to actually ship them. Or anyone else ever.
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>>154717375
>Technically they would
Why? I could think of at least 3 better candidates for Phoenix.
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To the guy who said they wanted to rip Ratinz I will cut up footage for you whenever it becomes available so I can feel like I helped.

And to whoever is getting the footage, don't forget to present your attorney badge to him when you can! You get hidden emotes (without bench)!!!!
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>>154717471
Oh? I'm always open to hearing these. I'm not looking for an argument by the way. Simply curious.
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>>154717107
Then again, I seriously wonder if they aren't doing it on purpose sometimes.
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>>154717663
>Iris
>Miles
>Edgeworth
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>Nagito wins a case because his partner bullied the killer into despair until they confessed.
10/10 seems legit.
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>>154717979
In soj Athena finds a dildo in trucys bag

It's implied. Athena says "she has this?? Oh trucy you are BAD!"
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>>154717471
I still think that Maya would be the perfect candidate.
Phoenix would just have to tease her about her small body during the act, then she'd channel Mia giving him a double experience. Lucky guy.

Or here's another theory :
- Kill Maya, make Phoenix end up with Pearl so she'd channel Maya, who would channel Mia, making it a triple experience.

>>154718061
>Iris
For some reason I just don't see her loving him seriously. He's probably more like a cute pet or something.
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>>154718126
Chiaki fucking saved that case with her bants and her actually doing the important shit.
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>>154716610
You probably wouldn't be able to dive deeper in the realm of common sense and mediocrity if you tried, but sure, I'll reply to this.

>Detectives and the police are part of the criminal justice system
Which is part of, as the other person calls it, "law system", therefore my point was correct

>but they're not part of the legal profession
I was wondering from where you got this idea. Wikipedia came to mind, but no, even Wikipedia asserts that detectives are part of the legal profession, so you really got this idea from your common sense.

>They're just a dumb muscle for it.
Because a judge who simply reads the law, interprets it and rules a verdict is not a dumb muscle meant to enforce the law, but somehow something else and more grand? Yet the detective, a literal law enforcement profession, is not within the realm of the law system for you?

>Muh machine that regurgitates
It's what I feel like doing when reading this

>The police aren't even necessary for the criminal justice to function. Citizens can do it.
Go ahead, by all means, and attempt to establish order without the police. Without order you have no law, and definitely no justice. Your ideas are like a misreported, bastardized version of what Kelsen once said was the requirement for a norm to attain validity, and Kelsen is an outdated author.

>Anybody can be a witness
Because everyone is part of the legal system and can play varied roles at different situations.
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>>154718193
>ignoring the most important character, the sole reason of Wright's existence
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>>154718508
...Larry?
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>>154718683
I was going to say Edgeworth but Larry actually makes sense considering he's the one who fucked with the school money. Without him nothing would have started.
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>>154718789
nigga if larry weren't in the picture, phoenix' thirsty ass would've still chased edeworth
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>>154718126
>>154718257

>her doing the important shit

Come on. I don't want to meme but Nagito pulled everything until the end and did every logic part. And his use of the Magic Spell was smart
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yo this shit looks like a hot meme-filled trash fire but y'all are having a hell of a lot more fun than i am in /tesg/

kudos to you cats
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>>154719272
Chiaki here. This is pretty much 100% accurate.
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>>154714549

Remember that this is a specific situation in the game world and not a general theory.

For the previous case(s) in the game you went through quite a lot to show that "Yes, I can bring this person to justice inside the realm of the law." What would the story accomplish by turning around and saying "Putting that aside, I'll let you go anyway?" Especially after Katherine Hall went to prison? If anyone was going to get let free, it would be her first.

The key thing that's messed up with the courts in Miles's world is that SOMEONE has to get convicted. The reforms to the justice system have not happened yet (and probably could not have happened until the cleanup operation that was AAI2.)

Maybe if this game took place later in the timeline, after Hobo Phoenix era, then Miles would be more conflicted, and the ending could have a different tone. However, with the AA world set up as it was, a lot of his motivation in the game is to find the real criminal so that the false criminal is proven innocent. If he left Simon alone, then John Marsh would have been the only one who could have killed the "president."
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>>154716830
>>154718471
>Because a judge who simply reads the law, interprets it and rules a verdict is not a dumb muscle meant to enforce the law, but somehow something else and more grand?
Judges deliver decisions, and these decisions form the common law. They're not dumb muscle. But if you had a law degree, or weren't failing it, you'd know that already.

>but they're not part of the legal profession
I'll say it again, because you seem dense: the police aren't legal professionals. Detectives aren't legal professionals.

You're backpedaling a lot. Here in particular, >>154713845, you were talking about the shaping and influence of law, but now now you're saying that judges are dumb muscle? Like you did with the first anon, you're talking using only sophistries.
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>>154718471
>>154719410
>Go ahead, by all means, and attempt to establish order without the police.
Courts and systems akin to courts have existed longer than dedicated organised police forces. Silly American.
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>>154714549
>>154719370

In addition, IIRC he was not bothered at all by endangering Kay and John in the pursuit of his justice. That is probably where he crossed the line.
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>>154715867
dedicated, CC

7pm est

forecast says 110% chance of there being a massive docrace (even with 10 spots)
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I want to kiss Miles!
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>>154721651
what did they mean by this
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>>154721651

Dahlia is cute. CUTE
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Thinking about doing a prewritten but it seems like a hell of a task, might just change up one of the old ones.
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>>154721651
Dahlia is lanky!
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>>154672546
>not wanting to experience Phoenix' slowly maturing proces
Did you forget the personality reset in DD
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>>154721739
>everything else moves
>fringe doesn't move
magic wind
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>>154691218
The Evidence list needs a complete remake.
The best solution for now is dropping it and create a new from strach, using a different system/way to present it when other priorities are done.
Also thank you.
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>>154719410
Honestly, I am disappointed and feel like I am wasting my time with you. Someone that refuses to learn is a lost cause.

>Judges deliver decisions, and these decisions form the common law. They're not dumb muscle. If you had a law degree, you'd know that.
You forgot to mention the part where Japan does not use the common law system. It uses the civil law system where the judge is just a dumb muscle that reads the law aloud and does exactly as it commands. The fact you don't know this shows how much you need to learn as well. Besides, even in the common law, citizens play major roles in how the judge's decision is given, so they are part of the law system as well.

>The police aren't legal professionals. Detectives aren't legal professionals.
They are law enforcement roles, I have no idea how they are not legal professionals considering that. At many countries, such as Japan, the police is technically (put very simply) just the government's army for establishing order, and if you think that the law is just what the government (a competent institution) dictates (although you somehow think Japan uses the common law) then you would agree that the police comprehends the legal realm, but your logic is very inconsistent so that never happens.

>You're backpedaling a lot. Previously you said that Holmes could shape and influence the law, but now judges are dumb muscle?
I am not backpedaling at all and I stand by the claim that every single citizen is completely involved in the process of shaping the law. When I said judges were dumb muscle I was merely using YOUR logic, I obviously do not believe they are, but if you think that police officers are dumb muscle then it is completely illogical to think that judges are somehow on a higher ground.

>>154719586
>Court and systems akin existed before police forces.
Millenniums ago. And yet other parties would fulfill the police duty. Parties that don't exist or wouldn't be able to handle that duty in today's nations.
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>>154731249
>I am not backpedaling at all

>Sherlock Holmes, England
>You forgot to mention the part where Japan
Absolutely not backpedaling when it suits your narrative, at all!

>>154731249
>They are law enforcement roles,
Think a little bit deeper about what that entails, and their training, and what their jobs entail, and you'll understand why I and everyone else beside Wikipedia are loathe to refer to them as legal professionals.

>Millenniums ago.
More misinformation presented as fact. I think I'm done here. Talking to people other than law graduates or professionals about law is like talking about cricket with a monkey. Obviously, you didn't understand the legal theory you've misquoted that Ace Attorney no doubt inspired you to read.
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>>154731968
>Sherlock Holmes is at London!
And Miles is at Japan, if the problem here is common law you'd be wrong. And I believe I said that even in the common law all citizens are involved with the law system and the process of shaping the law, but you ignored that.

>Think deeper about what it entails and you'll find why everyone besides Wikipedia loathes it
First of all, if everyone loathed it Wikipedia wouldn't have that information, but that's besides the point since I don't want to defend Wikipedia. Second, are you able to formulate an argument or a logic train that isn't "THINK ABOUT IT AND YOU'LL SEE I AM RIGHT"? Because after thinking about it I still think I am right.

>More misinformation presented as fact
Not quite, but this kind of knowledge is hidden from the general public so I am not surprised you don't know this. One of the earliest examples of court we have is Rome, where citizens would take civil matters to magistrates, the Praetors, who acted similarly to judges today, and citizens would also be able to choose a professional to represent them, in other words, a lawyer of sorts.

>Talking to people other than law graduates is a waste of time
Because you totally have a law degree, right?
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>>154732431
It's not hidden knowledge, the person you are arguing with is simply an idiot
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>>154733173
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Why didn't Dhurke just research for the name of Jove's wife?
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>this fucking box puzzle
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cAN WE ALL STOP PRETENDING dgs IS THE BEST GAME????!!
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>>154737705
What do you think is the best AA game then?
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>>154737783
See >>154706985
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>>154737783
AAI2 > T&T > SoJ > DGS > PW:AA > PLvsAA > AJ >JFA > DD >AAI

DGS has a great cast and god-tier music and animations but it's nowhere near as good as people hype it up to be. It's meant to be the first chapter of a trilogy so all it really does is introducing characters and settings.
There's nothing really wrong like that, mind you, because I have a feeling DGS2 and 3 will be godlike.
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>>154691218
>I am genuinely wondering just how you want evidence made.
When you present, your character will read out loud what the evidence says, with the icon of it in the top right. Of course, different one per area, and easily editable. Make it so it's noted when it's edited to prevent abuse.
Even if "docs already have evidence", this would be a wonderful wonderful quality of life thing, especially for those who aren't at the evidence part of the document, and have slow enough computers that it'd take a bit to get back up there and back down (inevitably delaying your activity in the case.)
This would be my ideal
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>>154687804

time?
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When's Kurain Trump getting ripped?

>MAKE KURAIN VILLAGE GREAT AGAIN
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>>154738171
Only show who changes evidence to mods honestly, it'd be really fun to see prosecutors forging evidence midtrial, it's a feature.
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>>154738209
More importantly, when is Armie getting ripped?
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>>154738209
>>154738563
Is the iOS version out?
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>>154738563
we already have enough lolis
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As we all know many Ace Attorney characters have puns in their names. And some of you may be wondering, what are Dahlia and Iris' name puns?
Well lets think of it as Iris and Dahlia together. Since they're twins. Both are named after flowers, Dahlia being a red flower, and Dahlia the character's hair is red, combined with this she's thought to be delicate like a flower. This can apply to Iris for the same reason, with one difference. Iris flowers are blue, while nothing on Iris has a blue coloring to it, her main colors and black hair and white robes. But why would they call her Iris? You'd think they'd call her a white or black flower to stick with the relation between her and Dahlia. Well, I have a theory. Blue waffle, a disease involving turning a women's vagina blue. Now you may ask "Isn't Iris pure?". Well that is simply immpossible. T&T spoilers, Iris pretended to be Dahlia during almost her entire relationship with Phoenix. Now you may simply say it was a pure relationship, the couple never did ANYTHING sexual. Well, that's where you're wrong. First of all they're in college, if you're dating in college you're most likely going to be peer-pressured by your friends to have sex if you're in a relationship. Phoenix and Iris being incredible gullible people, would 100% fall for any sort of peer-pressure in seconds. To add to this, when revealing this to Phoenix and talking about their relationship in college, she blushes, obviously meaning it was sexual nature.
In conclusion: The pun for Dahlia and Iris' names are they're both flowers matching their character coloring, Iris' coloring being she has blue waffle.
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>>154740118

OBJECTION

Blue waffle is a meme, it isn't real.

Get with the times Greggy boy.
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>>154740118
Conjecture!
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>>154740118
OBJECTION!

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS ''BLUE WAFFLE DISEASE'' IT IS ENTIRELY FICTIONAL
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>>154740118
I don't give a shit about Iris, but there is no way Nick is not a fucking virgin
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>>154740462
>>154741390
And what else is a meme and fictional?
Ace Attorney.
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>>154742597

IGIARI

ace attorney is not fictional, we are in japanifornia right now.
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Which would you go on a date with aog?
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>>154743680
Larry
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>>154743726
Not even gay, but this.
Larry would just be the most fun to hang out with
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>>154743680
Athena
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>>154743680
>Larry is 36
>still exactly the same as he was in the trilogy

I kinda feel pity for him, I mean look where his best friends are now instead
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>>154743680
Maya
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>>154744494
Larry's actually a successful children's picture book author in AA6 surprisingly. So he's actually achieved something in life.
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>>154739586
>Lolis
>enough
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Ded
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So I've avoided the thread for a while so I could finish SoJ, but what's this about a new client? Do I have to get it to play now?
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Gaem
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>>154738182
>>154687804

pls respond

>>154748990

everyone is on the test server, which requires the new client to play. a poll is being held if the new client will be our official one.
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>>154752085
when it's ready :^)

but no really i have the whole thing planned out, just need to write evidence i suppose.

which server should we do it in, dedicated or test?
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So who's the best new character in SoJ and why is it based Dhurke?
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>>154753092
Because a dragon never fucking yields or let's being dead stop him from solving the case
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>>154752671

whichever has more people, which should be test.
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>>154754538
Alright

Building class trial in crossover court, possible ETA of 12:00pm PST (3:00pm EST)
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>>154754254
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don't die
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I said don't die
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>>154759532

Just let me die already, I'm sick of this world.
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>>154759532
New case: who killed the thread?
Defendant: Anon
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When you conduct a therapy session with Uendo and don't point out the correct contradiction, you say "That doesn't match!" to which the witness says "Match, match... ahhh, I see. "MATCH," as in...
"Manage to Assert a Thoughtful, Calculated Hypothesis."
Now who do we know who makes acronyms like this? If you answered the Sebastian-player, dumbshoegick you were right. "What's the importance behind this?" you may be asking me, which is a good question, and also a simple one. You see, Rhoda claimed he worked on AA6. As we all know, Rhoda was in the lounge and rec room 24/7, which is where dumbshoegick went to talk about his acronyms after cases. Rhoda saw these acronyms, and incorporated them into AA6. Therefore, I am making this post because you fucks can't keep this thread away from page 10.
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>>154762868
I just like how lightly the court took the fact that the witness is fucking split in four personalities
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>>154760203
Turnabout Autism
The victim was found dead on the mythical and fabled page 11.
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>>154763364
I wanna stick my dick in the sexy smoking girl personality. Even if she DOES have a dick. It would be like fucking Rhoda.
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I was bored so I made a reaction image for you guys to use.
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I hit [Reply] this time, I expect you do the same next time.
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>>154717562
That'd be helpful if I do decide to rip him, which is likely.

I've been playing through having fun but also keeping an eye on animations and I can say that most of Roger's emotes are definitely rippable with a lot of ease. There are two that I've spotted that the presence of a textbox will possibly make it so that it will be impossible to rip with the 3ds version, and so far those are these:

Posting to Social Media Emote (His whole body moves while doing it, and the presence of textbox obscures moving lower body)

And the HeartEyed Emote (Whole body wiggles, again, textbox obscures lower body)

I'll keep playing to see what else I can find.

Also know that Bench emotes are probably going to be a bitch, and his breakdown is probably going to be impossible for now. With ipad footage maybe not. But Ipad SoJ won't be out for *atleast* a year.

I'll keep you posted. So far I've seen a way to rip every emote but those two.
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>>154766667
>no posting to social media emote

but that is like, fundamental
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>>154766667
Adding on to this. I actually haven't been keeping good count of how many emotes he actually has, number wise.

I'll try to write up a list sometime.
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>>154766792
I know. I'd love to be able to get both emotes. I'm still going to keep an eye out for them.

Perhaps we could get the full idle without textbox, and then simply transition the lipflaps onto the idle, which would be a long process, but certainly doable.

Also to drum up discussion. Any other chars people have seen that are pretty doable in terms of ripping, just so other rippers could know?
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>>154717562
>>154766667
Glad to see other people are doing this, too. Unfortunately, preanimations of any kind are going to be a bitch since you can't do anything about the textbox until after they finish talking. The best thing you could do is probably see if there's a similar enough animation for the lower half of his body you can graft onto it
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>>154767115
Datz and Dhurke pls
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MMPH!
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>>154767115
HLD Blackquill in 6-4 looks like he would be fairly easy.
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>>154767115
proper defense athena would be nice
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>>154767923
speaking of, does Athena slam the desk twice for anyone else? Is it because I'm using the maid DLC outfit? Do I have a fucked up download?
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>>154768448
She does it on purpose mang, notice how she only does it when the emotion thing around her neck is red
It's angry slamming basically
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When can we have this for AOV mods?
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>>154768708

Its just wankery.
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>>154768708
>3 sho mains

o i am laffin
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>>154766667
Speaking of, I was fiddling with the decompiled game earlier and quite easily managed to remove text from the screen, but I can't find anything obvious that would remove the actual textbox. Is there the smallest chance anyone knows what that file would be from AA5 or anything?
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>>154767116
Most of Roger's preanims the textbox goes away, so that's been great!

Dunno about some of these other chars as I've been paying the most attention to Roger. Bonnie looks eh so far in terms of emotes. I know her signature bobbing talk emote is often behind a textbox, so that's a bitch. Some of her preanims and moving talks are behind textboxes, but some preanims aren't so that's good.

>>154767234
>>154767923
I hope these aren't requests. I just asked for chars that are easy to rip because their emotes aren't always blocked by textbox.
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Also I think these chars are denied from the server until 1 month after release anyhow.

>>154770175
Oh shit man that'd be amazing if you could just remove the textbox.

I'd help if I could but I dunno shit about these game's files.
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>6-4
>Nice short case
>Fun characters
>Athena a shit
>Team up with based Blackquill

Legit fun case.
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>>154768708
>this image
>3 sho
>flowey
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>>154770613
the banter was great
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>>154770613
>That pep talk
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>Phoenix Wright in nihongo is Naruhodo Ryuichi
>Dragon Isee
>Defiant Dragons
>Phoenix was born a rebel
>Phoenix is Khu'rainian
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>>154771727
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>>154770613
couldn't agree more, it felt fun and gave athena a case.
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>>154774302
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>>154775384
you can't say it's only a half
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>this fugging class trial.
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pmub
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So like honest question.

https://mega.nz/#!QcdVlZZT!RYDv9NdPawB9nO2KfbNmfMGkWc8A56QT6jGTR5pTOoM

Do you guys want this ^^^ emote? Bench kinda blocks most of it, so expect it to look different than the other waving scuttlebutt as seen here:
>>154674804


I'll rip it if you want. I don't think she does that one outside of the courtroom.
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>>154775384

The end of this case must have been the most civic argument i saw in AO in a while. Good job to Nagito and Layton.
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>>154780293
Yes.

But really I just like the idea of as many emotes as possible.

That one is cute as fuck but we probably could survive with just the other sway
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>>154780470
What was the verdict?
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>>154782931

It was not guilty, but it could've gone both ways honestly, and I was expecting a guilty myself.
I'd say both benches did quite good despite Layton being forced to do solo pro and support def having to fill in for Judge almost from the get go. Phoenix joined way later on but couldn't possibly catch up with everything. Plus I didn't do much of a good job as co, all I could find and theorize only further indicted the client so I kept it to myself.
It came down to closing arguments and Nagito and Layton did really well there.
The case was really comfy and relaxing all the way through too.
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>>154782931

Not guilty,
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>>154784182
>>154784273
That's such bullshit and so unfair to the prosecution to be honest.

Defense gets their ass handed for 5 hours, then at the end they have a 30 minutes conversation, the judge is convinced that maybe the witness could have shanked the victim, not guilty. I'd be mad.
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>>154784378
It's just a game bruh.
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>>154784480
If all you can say is "It's just a game" then I probably got a point.
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>>154784182
>Phoenix joined way later on but couldn't possibly catch up with everything

Yeah sorry about that, joining mid-case never really works out for me tbqh
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>>154784563
Layton here. Frogpollo triggered my grammar autism, but aside from that, I enjoyed myself. I couldn't give a shit about the verdict itself, because that Gentleman's Debate was quite a spectacle, if I do say so myself.

Plus, the judge had a tough time deciding the verdict himself and he joined a a support. I don't blame him, really.
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>>154784378
>>154784563

>Mad Over a verdict.

If less people would stop thinking like you maybe AO would be better. you retard.

I wont lie. Even i was thinking it would be Guilty. I failed a lot of thing and i know it. It was an Uphill battle for a long time.

They could have ended it early. But anon, where's the fun? Everyone had a good time having a nice and civic arguement.

It's better than people cutting each other argument with pointless objection. Here Layton, and my bench actually worked together. We conceded point from each bench and we came to a good conclusion. Where's the problem? Everyone in that case said that they would have fun even if it ended in a guilty verdict because the end was satisfying.
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>>154785032
>>154785003
That's not the point and I have cased several times with you, Frogpollo, and I do also abominate guiltyfags, your insults are quite sad since you are blind to the facts here.

A 30 minutes long conversation between defense and prosecution should not overrule 5+ hours worth of witness cross examining. I am pretty sure that tons of testimony were discarded or ignored with that verdict too. It is just not how the game is meant to go, especially in Ace Attorney where it's guilty until proven innocent. You two definitely played a case there, but don't dare call it "Ace Attorney Online".
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>>154785210
>implying that's actually frogpollo and not just some falseflagging shitposter
>having conversations with anyone in the thread about anything other than rips
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>>154785210
>but don't dare call it "Ace Attorney Online".
Ok.

Because it's called Attorney Online anyway.
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>>154785368
Bravo, your argument is on par with "It's just a game brah"
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>>154785462
The quality of my argument is the same quality as yours.

You're putting some sort of imaginary prestige on a fucking attorney role playing game.
Stop.
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Is anyone ripping Bucky? I want my skateboarding drunk fatbro
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>>154785210
>it's not AO if it's not played the way I like it

this is your argument, it's fucking stupid
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>>154785210

>Tons of testimony were discarded or ignored

Learn to read retard. NOTHING was discarded or ignored. At least it prove that you didn't saw jack shit.
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>>154785529
>>154785617
Pic related is you two.

And no, AO is not what I want, but it follows basic guidelines of AA such as "guilty until proven innocent". If a 30 minutes casual conversation can overrule an entire evidence list and 5 hours worth of cross examinations and incriminating testimony, it is not "guilty until proven innocent" but actually quite the opposite.
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>>154785557
I just want Uendo. One of the most fun characters in the franchise, but I hate to imagine how complex that shit would be.

Kisegawa made my dick hard
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>>154785761
>If a 30 minutes casual conversation can overrule an entire evidence list and 5 hours worth of cross examinations
But you're just talking out your ass?
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>>154785846
Same. And as for your spoiler, same.
I actually don't think he'd be too hard to rip, just annoying that all of his animations are behind the stand. Then again, that makes him consistent in that you don't have to stress over finding any out of trial animations you might have missed, or trigger anyone's autism by having 5 animations that didn't come from the witness stand alongside 8 animations that did.
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>>154785731
Don't make me laugh, the reasoning used to pin it on Kirigiri was "A quill is too small" and "She forgot to mention that the armor had a dragon design". It was all completely circumstantial and if the prosecution wanted to they could have said "Fuck off verdict please", he was lucky Layton was nice and wanted a not guilty too.

I like how the game went from tryhard guiltyfags to tryhard notguiltyfags, but it is sad we can't find a healthy middleground.
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>>154785761
>case not even taking place in japanifornia much less inherently under AA ruleset
>it's shit for not following guilty until proven innocent
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>>154786142
I remember saying that I was indifferent to the verdict, actually. In fact, I fully expected a guilty verdict.
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APOLLO AND NAYUTA ARE BROTHERS, THE ENTIRE SOJ GAME IS ABOUT APOLLO'S FAMILY
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>>154786228
Are you implying that it is "innocent until proven guilty" in DGS? Both you and me know that is bullshit.
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>>154786396
Is Dhurke the best dad in the series?
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>>154786419
>case not taking place in Japanifornia OR London OR any timeframe or possibly even area ever expanded upon in an AA game
>it's shit for not following guilty until proven innocent
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>>154785761
>Setting isn't japanifornia
>European Medieval
>No foresnic, fingerprint, precise timeline
>People use every evidence and testimony during an argument
>IT'S NOT AA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>154785761

Here, let me correct you.
>3 hours of cross examination
>2 hours of argument

Was you even here? Come on.

>>154786142

>She forgot that the armorhad a dragon design

It was a legit Contradiction m8. She said there wasn't any special motif on it. I could give you the quill. Also:

>Could have pinned it in Kirigiri
>She said she couldn't be here
>Decide to try to pin Valant even if i know i can't do it because she had to go for a while.
>Fail
>Prosecution and Judge ask if i want to call Kirigiri?
>I say no because i know i failed and i'm fair about it.
>Literally excpected a Guilty verdict and was fine with everyone

I never care about a verdict. I'm here to put a good show and have fun. And i really had fun to have this argument with Layton.

Also since we're at it...

Do that mean you shit on Civic Lawsuit? Class Trial?

People can't try some new stuff? People can't just have fun they way they want?
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>>154786078
I can only hope.

>>154786142
I get what you're saying.
Trials and judges should always lean towards a guilty verdict and just establishing doubt isn't enough, rather the defense should figure out the actual culprit.
At least under general rules, anyway.

But hey, as long as everyone had a good time, that's the key. People who put too much stock in the verdict are what brings the game down - that goes for both sides.
Guiltyfags are shitty.
People who think the defense should always win are just as shitty.
There is no win/loss shit here. As long as there's a good story.
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>>154786751
If you tried to overrule an entire trial by pointing one contradiction and one circumstantial claim and gotten a guilty over me as a prosecutor I'd get salty, call me a piece of shit if you want. Many other people would too. I know that you're an elitist on that regard and you think the game would be better without me and all those other people as well, which is sad. There are two main problems here: Throwing several hours of effort from many parties down the drain and not being loyal to the series.

By the way, this speech of "It wasn't Japanifornia so it wasn't guilty until proven innocent" was made up on the spot 3 minutes ago and you know it, I am very sure that was never mentioned in the trial and that the judge also behaved like guilty until proven innocent as well.
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>>154787002
>If you tried to overrule an entire trial by pointing one contradiction and one circumstantial claim and gotten a guilty over me as a prosecutor I'd get salty

Then leave, you're literal cancer and the worst kind of prosecutor there is

Literally fuck off from this game, this is an RP simulator, not some kind of ebin competitive game where it's all about winning
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>>154786901
There is a difference between pushing for a verdict like a retard and diagnosing which verdict was the right verdict at the end of a given case. If a judge gives a not guilty verdict when the defense has managed to do nothing but prove doubt, that means the way we are playing is degenerate and has strayed way too far from the roots.
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>salting in the thread over a case you didn't even take part in and for which everybody who did participate in agrees was enjoyable

Nice new low
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>>154787184
See >>154787196

I'd also argue that people like you who get salty so easily are much worse to the game but I digress, don't want to make baby more mad.

>>154787270
If 8 cucks do a case in a degenerate way, am I wrong for not wishing the same proceedings to happen with me when casing? If that became the standard it'd be terrible.
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>>154787342
nigga the only salty person around here is you
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>>154787707
Do quote the part where I demonstrate salt
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>>154786672
Either him or Nick desu
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>>154787930
>If 8 cucks do a case in a degenerate way

Now explain how this does not sound autistic
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>>154788039
I never implied the people from that case were "8 cucks doing it in a degenerate way", I'm saying that just because a procedure with specific people was carried in a way that did not anger any of the involved parties does not mean that procedure was acceptable for the general term or that it could become a standard
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>>154787930
>this is a real cap from the game
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>>154788124
No no anon, you're basically here complaining over the fact a case was done in a way you didn't like despite anyone in it enjoying it

Like seriously look at you right now, complaining over people having fun in a way you don't approve, how is that NOT autistic as fuck?

You're like a dog who keeps barking constantly for no reason, your entire argument is a non-argument because this game ultimately does not even have a set ''meta''

Let it go and move on, before your autism makes you embarass yourself in front of everyone here even more
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does anyone have that AA picture where it shows a guy's wall of text on whether or not manfred von karma was executed and then the first reply is some stupid shit like "I like cookies"? The caption was "There are two types of people...." or something like that.
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>>154788378
I am not complaining about people having fun, I am complaining about how the case was done since that could be a prerogative for future cases to follow the same formula. I am yet to see one reply to me that isn't full strawman.
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>>154788572
>I am complaining about how the case was done since that could be a prerogative for future cases to follow the same formula

A mere slippery slope, which also ignores that the ''meta'' in this game keeps changing.

You're complaining for the sake of it at this point, that doesn't make you look good at all
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>>154788812
How is it a slippery slope if you yourself admitted that the meta keeps changing? It is very likely that the people involved in that trial will attempt to pull another "Okay I lost and wasted all my CEs but theory time and then not guilty please" in future trials.
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>>154788950
>It is very likely that the people involved in that trial will attempt to pull another
This right here is a slippery slope

>Okay I lost and wasted all my CEs but theory time and then not guilty please

But that is literally not what happened anon, Nagito used all the elements discussed in the game to come up with his final theory.
You keep saying ''they wasted all the CEs and evidence'' but that is literally not what happened.
In a way, you're essentially strawmanning the way the case went down

And also, allow me to do something really nice, which is questioning the premise itself.
So what if this way of casing becomes the norm? Where's the issue?

You're not gonna play anymore? Oh well, as long as other people have fun we can't fret over a single egg
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>>154788950

>everybody expected a guilty
>final arguments were only done for the sake of final arguments
>everybody involved with this one case now has a completely different mindset about casing and will try to spread it elsewhere and push it onto others everywhere they go

What?
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>>154789270
Further shows how that guy is arguing over nothing

Let it go, and move on
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>>154789270
Strawman

>>154789248
>Nagito used all elements
Circumstantial elements that didn't prove anything or even implied doubt. The witness didn't see the armor really well? Doesn't make the witness a killer.

>So what if this way of casing becomes the norm? Where's the issue?
If that happens we will be playing under a "innocent until proven guilty" mindset which makes the game shit, and yes, I would quit or probably case in other servers. I say this as someone that usually plays defense, rarely prosecution since it is already boring, and would be much more with that not guilty mindset.
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>about to win CT
>monokuma gives a time extension
>costs us the trial.

THIS IS THE FEELING OF DESPAIR
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>>154789769
>Strawman

No it's not anon, that guy is right

>Circumstantial elements that didn't prove anything or even implied doubt

But still elements from the case, so what if they are circumstantial? And keep in mind everyone indeed expected a Guilty

>If that happens we will be playing under a "innocent until proven guilty" mindset which makes the game shit

Makes the game shit? How?

>I would quit or probably case in other servers

Too bad anon, we can't fret over a single egg.
This also implies that in the end your whole complaint is about YOU and nobody else.
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>>154789813
Sorry Hajime, you played it very good though.

Not Gato here.
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>>154789981
>No, that guy is right
I am saying that he is misrepresenting my argument thus strawman, how can he be right?

>But they are still elements from teh game, so what if they are circumstantial, everyone expected a guilty
Doesn't change the fact it was a not guilty unless you are trying to pin it all on the judge which is deplorable of you.

>How is innocent until proven guilty bad for the game?
It stops being Ace Attorney and becomes something else. The only thing that unites all of us is Ace Attorney, kill that and there's nothing left. The fact you are okay with this shows how it is not a slippery slope.

>it's just you
[citation needed]

Also my last reply to you since this is becoming circular.
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>>154790193
>I am saying that he is misrepresenting my argument thus strawman, how can he be right?

Your argument is that the people of that case will likely push this format. That anon didn't make a strawman.

>Doesn't change the fact it was a not guilty unless you are trying to pin it all on the judge which is deplorable of you.

Now this is a strawman instead and way to change the subject.
You may call those elements ''circumstantial'' but they are still elements from the case. This hurts your entire point.

>It stops being Ace Attorney and becomes something else

This game has never fully been like Ace Attorney, if it was witnesses would all have more than three testimonies. Plus there are many formats that are not Ace Attorney like civil cases or logic battles or class trials

>The fact you are okay with this shows how it is not a slippery slope

But I'm not ''ok'' with it anon, this is another strawman right here. I'm simply completely indifferent

>[citation needed]

The proof is right under your nose, the fact that nobody is agreeing with you

>Also my last reply to you since this is becoming circular.

You've lost this argument, simple as that. It was a dumb argument to begin with.
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Will AOV ever get someone as great as the Mighty Paul Atishon to run for AOV Local Council?
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So I've seen bonnie's stand emote with the both of them. Bonny and Betty.

That looks like a fucking mess for whoever wants to rip her. Stands in the way, textboxes everywhere, TWO CHARACTERS IN ONE STAND, probably sort of doable though. I think it'd be worth it to wait for an ipad version with bonnie though to be quite honest. But that's just my opinion.

>>154782353
If I do do it, like I said it will be cut off kinda like how means's stand emotes are, or like how the camera emote was.

Just so people know, there's nothing I can fucking do about the stand being in the way if I do rip it. She doesn't do that emote outside of trial, nor does she do her pandaboxbreakdown outside of trial, so that'll be another one restricted by bench.

In the end it's you guys' call. I'm certainly willing to do them. I just don't want bitched at for them not lining up with or matching to the others of the same emote.
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>wake up
>go to school
>come home
>finish what other work I can
>go to job
>work
>come home
>finish up work
>go to bed
>no time for anything else
>immediately after I got back into AO

This is perfectly fine, I swear.
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>>154786142

>tryhard notguiltyfags

There is literally no such thing as a non-tryhard DA. It is in the fucking philosophy (a lawyer never stops smiling until it's over, i.e. never ever fucking give in no matter how much you are losing) and furthermore, if a DA lets up for an instant the Prosecution will whoop your ass because the case is stacked as fuck.

People dislike tryhard prosecutors because their job is easy as fuck anyways so the only thing guiltyfagging in the extreme gets you is

>Prosecution bullies and shuts down defense's questions for three hours and everyone wastes their time, Guilty

I have never seen an extreme guiltyfag Prosecutor actually be good. They always get BTFO the moment Defense gets traction in the case and they can't just scream "irrelevant!"

The closest I've gotten is a Prosecutor pulling the rug out from under me by using my own theory against me. Fucking scumbag. Which was great fun, but again, that requires skill, which is something most tryhard Prosecutors don't have.
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>Nick actually cross examining a 65 line testimony
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>>154796408

Give me the area, anon.
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>>154797658
2, test server
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wake me UP
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>>154801062
wake me up inside
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>>154802701
can't wake UP
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>You will never watch Gina steno brush her teeth for the 10th time in the span of one day.
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>>154804916
>bullying Gina steno of all people
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>>154805654
>Not wanting to watch a steno unwind after a long day of typing bullshit for you autistic lawyers, maybe even surprising them and watching how embarrassed they get when you catch them brushing their teeth in their underwear.
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>>154806017
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Ok finished case 2. Update on Ratinz.

Couple of bench emotes that are gonna look odd. Then he transforms, and his transformation pre-anim is entirely rippable, aside from the bench but that's ok.

He has a lot of easily done preanims in his new Reus form, such as the cards burning, the coin tricks, etc.

Most of his normal talking emotes are doable, the flametalk, the coinflip talk...

Doesn't seem like any of his damage emotes with the cape are easily rippable, and textbox is usually in the way... so cape is a difficult one.

His breakdown is not really rippable, but his collapse is sorta.

He has a sort of defeated static talk he does. That's pretty easily rippable.

All in all I've only seen like 3 of his emotes that textbox just ruins hope of ripping:

-LoveyEyes
-SocialMedia
-CapedDamage

(And breakdown with curtain and lights)

The bench emotes are probably going to have to played around with, but if I recall (And if DGS ripper guy is here please confirm), crogrey's emotes are mostly bench too but the ripper simply cut the torso off at the bench and ripped everything else.

Kinda like how I did here:
>>154602732


It does look odd like that though. What's people's opinions?
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>>154807569
Yes, Crogrey was snipped from the wit stand and I took advantage of the bit of space in the bottom portion that gets obscured by the text entry so I didn't have to scale him TOO much, you can use one of his emotes as a reference to see what I mean.

I'm not a fan of HYPER Valant for mostly personal reasons but you already understand ripping is a thankless and grueling task so good luck anyway
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Debeste.
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Reminder to kys, kys once a day /aog/!
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Hope you all had fun!
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>>154793235
MAKE JAPANIFORNIA GREAT AGAIN
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>>154809793
What makes you think people will rp Ratinz like Valant?
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So is anyone planning to work on Nahyuta?
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What's the news on prosecutor Sahdmadhi? Anyone ripping him?

I like his style.
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don't die
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>When your defendant suddenly confesses and has a fucking testimony prepared
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don't die dammit
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I said don't die goddamnit
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APOLLO AND NAYUTA
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>Gina steno's fetish is being "rescued."
>They play prime suspect and defendant constantly
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>>154819037
Defendant being playable has gotten stale recently. So many people doing it has ruined it.
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Who's the bigger bitch between Dahlia and Ga'ran?
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>>154819860
REEEEEEEEEEEE SPOILER TAGS
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Boys, I'm replaying Trials and Tribulations, help me out with this plot hole.
When Iris ties the body of Elise Deauxnim to a rope that will swing under the bridge and land on the other side, adjacent to where it was thrown, how did she get the rope in the first place?
Was it still attached to the bridge? Did iris use the sword hidden in the staff to cut the rope where it connected to the mountain so she could use it?
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>>154819997
Grow up.
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G-Guys? I'm getting worried... This is the deadest we've been since before we reached out to /drg/ for help. I think it's time to make another post in /drg/ to attract more players.
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>>154824142
>dead hours
>only 7 people online
Why am I not surprised.
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>>154824142
>more /drg/
No
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>>154824142
That's the wrong server, everyone is at the Test server, you are checking the Dedicated one.

>>154824262
>>154824321
You two are dumbasses for not noticing, please don't ever post in this general again.
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>>154824379
>go on Test server
>Gina is blankposting
>no one else is talking
It's just as dead.
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>>154824426
It is 8AM, since most of our playerbase is not composed of underagers most people are working or studying right now, what did you expect? Yesterday night there were over 50 people online.
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>>154824484
what? the people who play this game have lives?
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>>154825545
Yes, people who play roleplay games tend to be mature
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>>154825642
>anyone on this server
>mature
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Okay....I'm on case 5 trial 1 of AA1, outside of case 4, 5 and the end of case 3 I think the game is pretty weak.

do the games get better?
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>>154825920
No, if you don't like AA1 then you won't like the rest of the games. Goodbye.
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>>154825920
1 is kind of tame, imo, but which AA games you like will vary wildly. They play broadly the same way, but they all feel different.
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DLC for SoJ is out today.
Asinine Attorney mini case
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>>154825920
Yeah they do

You see the first game is overrated as fuck, outside of case 4 and 5 it's not really much at all
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>>154826534
tfw already downloaded dlc with freeshop
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>>154824379
Same concept, in dead hours there are few people around and no cases at all. That's pretty normal.
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>>154826534
>>154826570

It's non-canon but it still contains spoilers so don't play it until you finish the game
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>>154826539
I wouldn't say PWAA is overrated.
It's better than justice for all at any rate.
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>>154826604
What. No. And do not ever reply to me again.
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Are people really worried about euro hours?
Around 20 is the average for this time, give or take.
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>>154807569
But literally no one wants him. He's one of the shittiest killers in the series, literally murdering a man who did him no wrong, but rather looked up to him, forcing wright and co into a absurd contract and ruining the gramayre reputation all together just because they kicked him out for being an asshole like 20 years ago.
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>>154828309
That makes him a good villain though just for being a huge scumbag
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>>154828309
No just cause
All for revenge
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>>154828721
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>>154825642
>Yes, people who play roleplay games tend to be mature
/tg/ here.
>laughing Yew.gif
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>>154819263
Remember like 3 months ago?
>BUT SOME OF THE BEST CASES HAD DEFENDANT AS A PLAYABLE ROLE!
>>
>>154828309
Does every villain really need a 2deep4u motive?
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Miles DD ET: His cock got immediatly erect and when he less expected; he was already unzipping his pants, the man pulled out his extreme thick dong and started piercing the cat's butthole with it, Gato being a degenerate furry,
Miles DD ET: "MEOWEHEGHEGAAH" - screamed the cat while being banged furiously by the catfucker.
Miles DD ET: not until we reach the truth
Miles DD ET: At that moment, Gato was too busy Gato the Gato Gato Gato while Gato Gato the Gato on Gato Gato, he couldn't hear anything coming from outside his tent
Miles DD ET: At that moment, Gato's cock got so hard he actually pierced the cat's entire body, raping the poor animal to death, the true madman.
Miles DD ET: Gato's cock got fully covered in blood at that moment, the cat was dead and there was nothing else he could do, as his cock pierced the cat's entire brain
Miles DD ET: "wew lads" said Gato while walking back to his tent.
Miles DD ET: "time to shitpost in a2"
Miles DD ET: HE'S HERE RIGHT NOW
Miles DD ET: COMING FOR US
Miles DD ET: RIGHT NOW
Miles DD ET: "Meow?" meow'd the random cat.
Miles DD ET: "I, myself, am a dog person." replied Gato, clearly a bluff.
Miles DD ET: Some brain cells were splattered on the ground alongside with blood smears, the scene was stinking, but Gato... he was happy.
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>>154832501
Typical AO fashion, someone somewhere did something cool, so now everyone has to copy it so they can be the center of attention.
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>>154835240

>out of order snippets
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>>154836323

They were all in order as you see them here.
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>>154836767

the story goes in a much different order
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So how long is the test server going to be up for?
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>>154839515
Forever.
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>>154832309
>/tg/ here
Yeah, and /v/ is reflective of everyone who plays videogames, too, right?

nah
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I wonder what the future has in store for us.
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don't you die on me dammit
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>>154845973
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>>154845617
>Mario Party
Well, motive was established at least
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>>154845617
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Don't die!
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>>154845973
What was this case?
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>the community is so toxic they want literal shit characters like ratings magician, datz and Bucky ripped before the actual well written ones

You fuckers only want those characters so you can meme with them.

You don't even realize how shitty it is making the rippers rip from the 3ds footage and not waiting for iPad because it's going to look like shit like how leifa currently looks because you all need your memes immediately. Next it'll be the waifu characters like armyloli, bunny girl and fucking titballoons
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>Gato no joke has a fucking devianart for amazing world of gumball drawings

Cat fucker confirmed
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>>154850640

Buddy went full Hurt "TIMELINES" Vortex for that case.
I think detective earlier said something about plumbing in passing when he was saying that they checked every nook and crany of the house, including the plumbing system.
I don't remember much, I was only spectating, but that contradiction was the turnabout.
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So

is the new AA game better than the last one?

Cause the last one was ultimately pretty disappointing. Only one memorable case in it (the third, and only because of Robin).
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>>154852580
>is the new AA game better than the last one?
Yes, by far.
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>>154851465
>Ratinz and Datz
>shitty

Here's your (You), treasure it
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>>154852580
SoJ is to DD what AAI2 was to AAI

It's amazing how the B-team either makes a great game or a bad game
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>>154845973
>>154846159
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>>154852580
>>154852928
SoJ is pretty much what I wanted DD to be to AJ Except now DD retconned AJ, so they couldn't save the Kristoph plot or even make it relevant in SoJ
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750th
New thread now!
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>>154853552
The Kristoph plot was actually already solved in AJ, it was just really subtle and probably written badly. It kinda requires thinking.

I will explain next thread if you're interested, since this one is autosaging
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>SoJ literally has a Trump Rip-Off.
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>>154855481
>tfw no playable Delta in AO
Fucking Snails
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>>154856019

>Implying Delta isn't off screen
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>>154856019
>MIND HACC the defendant into doing it
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Go here fuckerds
>>154857543
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