/wtg/ - War Thunder General

>Here is a Teamspeak you can use:
ts.gonnahate.org

first for bote cbt fucking when

>>154446847
>what is Japan

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REEEEEEEEEEEE

ARSE

What can you do with half a hole?

>>154447419
Has anybody even got a blueprint or does somebody know someone who got it ??

>>154447416
I mostly play danks so I forgot about Japan's skeleton crew of a plane tree

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>Karelia
>use ULQ
>actually have a small amount of fun

>>154448097
blueprint is a whole premium vehicle famalam

>>154448486
I've never seen proof of this.

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>Heroes and General have historical sights
>Warthunder has some standardized one that's not historical at all

Someday, right guys?

>>154448607
it's 100% guaranteed shit

I got Tucks F2A from it.

>>154448674
>sights are only gyroscopic in sim

>>154448674
>arcade lead angle in RB
no thanks

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>>154449549

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>>154449549
uwotm8?

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>>154422848

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>in a pbj
>4 nazi planes attack me all at once
>kill three of them before dying
>give the last one an oil leak while going down

>>154450210
What am I meant to be looking at here?

>>154450293
you're looking at a cheater

>>154450293
you're seeing downgrade from kanonejpz

>>154450541
Downgrade from the kanonenjpz vs the rakatenjpz?

Assuming so, yes, your individual shots do less damage, but you have a much higher rate of fire and your "missiles" have a mush faster travel time.

>>154448674
Guess which nation had optics made out of beer bottles bottoms and you will get the answer.

>>154450948
slavs

>>154450948
you mean vodka bottles

>>154450210
>literally worse than 90mm HEAT-FS

>>154450743
lolwhat?

SS.11 is only traveling at 150 m/s

sustained rate of fire is much lower than Kanonejpz

>>154450948
>US had worse optics on the sherman than slavs had on T-34

))))))))))))))

>>154451531
Nevermind, I got what you were saying backwards.

>>154451601
I've heard this said many times here but I don't think I've ever seen evidence. I'd be very interested to see it if you have any.

>>154451274
Vodka bottles would imply that optics had a clear glass.

>nose gunner and dorsal turret of the B-25 still don't fire with the fire button even though they very obviously would have historically
but why

>>154453637
AI gunners are trash to incentivize manual control of gunners so being a bomber isn't entirely passive play. It's a dumb idea and I hate it.

>>154453637
shitters cried about being "sniped by AI" until Gaijin nerfed AI gunnes into nothingness. Even with their skills maxed out, they only open fire at less than 210 m

>>154454559
>>154455019
i'm talking about firing forwards when pressing the machine gun button

>>154455680
can pilot sleve machineguns in turrets in reality?

>>154455934
The P-61's turret was pilot controlled IRL.

POST BOIPUCCI

>>154448486
>>154448607
i got the marcolins and a ffriend got the american Ki something (the earlier )

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>FAB-500 dropped behind the maus barely damages it
>RS-132 disintegrates it on contact

How long would it take to grind from t1 ameritard tank to the m60 if I'm sorta okay at the game

>>154459085
5-6 weeks if you play casually 2-3 hours a day
with prem and prem tanks ofc

>>154459235
Don't think I'll be getting no m60 then, guess I'll settle into my life of shermans

>>154459779
yeah the tank grind is horrible especially since RB doesnt get extra rewards

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T-72 when

>>154460801
read:
>more handholding when?

>>154458125
>marcolin CR-42 is reward for first won battle if you play Germans

>>154462563
didn't mean to grentext

>>154462563
>>154462709
so what? my first win was with jap planes so no marcolins for me you tard

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>>154462978
>blueprints from battle chest
HELL YEAH
>it's 250 GE biplane with half of normal premium bonus

>>154463215
the marcolins is fun af

>>154463382
how does it differ from the normal CR.42? I thought Thach's F2A was the only unique starter plane, but looking at the stat cards I can see Marcolin's CR.42 isn't the same as its regular counterpart either.

>>154463696
you sure its not the statcard messing up? i thought its the exact same desu when i got it i was happy i got the prem version of my fav plane

>>154463837
Yeah, my distrust of stat cards is why I'm asking.
It's also called CR.42CN rather than just CR.42, like the one in the regular tree.

>>154463887
i googled a bit and the Cn is the "Night fighter version with spotlights in gondolas under the wings and prolonged engine exhausts.

no idea why the statcards differ

>>154464241
So you'd say they perform identically in-game? It wouldn't be the first time gaijin manufacture differences that shouldn't exist.

>>154464339
yes i have ~200 matches in RB with both and cant really tell a difference honestly there miiiiight be a really small one like 5-8 kph top speed or some shit like that but thats def not noticable in a fight imo

>>154464416
Then I don't have to buy it, thanks m8.

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modeled in when ?

>>154464874
i bet its a thing of a few minutes to actually put that ingame but gaijin rather fixes launcher stability

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>not playing for almost year
>back to game
>first match
>3 kills in first 2 minutes

>>154448097
I got the t-44-122 out of the little wheely box thing

>>154463382
Enjoy getting clubbed by Chaikas.

>>154471229
this actually happens close to never

most of the time im clubbing hurricanes and lags that turn with me
i see chaikas extremely rarely

So I hear boats are coming soon, and tanks can now reinforce crew.

Jap tonks when? Pasta anything when?

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>>154474039
>Jap tonks when?
Pointless.
Pasta anything when?
After submarines are released. For now look forward to more cold war tanks like the Chieftain Mk.V and T-55.

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This is in the next patch

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why are custom games dead

>>154474598
as a premium i guess?

Couple of questions here:
Are they adding any more tanks anytime soon?
I'm relatively a new player and you guys seem to know way more of the goings on with this shit than I seem to be able to fund.

Second question:
What is the best premium tier 4 tank for Germany?

Are any of the other tier 4 tanks worth getting?
Ive been told to avoid the US AND Britbong line because they get fucked up in almost every tier and it's not worth the grind.

>>154475473
almost every patch adds new tanks

the Tger II Sla

the T-34-100 and T-44-122 are both great slav prems

>>154475473
best tier IV german prem is the Tiger II Sla 16. Its a normal Tiger II but with a better engine and a shitload of tracks on the turret.
Bongs have a decent tank tree, but they have no explosive filler in their shells, so its all solid shot or APDS. It forces you to aim for ammoracks to get kills. The best (and only) tier IV for them is the Strv 81. Gets 3 ATGMs guided with WASD, APDS, and super zoom meme optics so you can make 2km shots reliably. Both are about the same price, so choose whatever you want f.am.
Bongs are the underdog tank nation desu.

>>154475473

>>154475808
is right the bongs are actually pretty good if you know how to aim and the Strv 81 is alot fun
+ every bong fighter can carry bombs and/or rockets so even when you spawn a Spit you can later decide to get ground pounding armament

>>154475473
US and GB tanks are kind of fucked over with the meta, but them being completely fucked is mostly a meme. Part of it is probably due to the planes I can bring, but I find them to be the two most enjoyable trees.

Sherman grind gets real fuckin' tiring towards the end, though.

>>154475974
this desu

the brits and americans get pretty much the best planes for Rb

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>Next patch its coming out late September and it's going to have a Sinai, Korea and Vietnam map

Starship when?

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>Hard fought wins

That Valentine is pretty fun despite being so slow. Got four out of the seven total shared with the prem Achilles

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>>154476892

>>154474683
no RP

I'm on mobile so quoting all of you is a bitch, but thanks a bunch for the help and explanations. Much appreciated.

How often do they do the major patches that add vehicles?
Are there going to be any new maps?

>>154476892
proofs?

>>154477731
every 2-3 months i think and atm we are very close to getting one because they are already dropping devblogs and that usually means the patch will come soon (tm)
and yeah sometimes we get new maps but most of the time the battlefield gets put somewhere else on already implemented maps because they are fuckhuge and you sually fight on maybe 30% of it at best

>>154460483
please elaborate

Has this game died already?

>>154479664
no

and it's not dying any time soon

>>154479459
Air RB gets more RP reward than air AB ( 1 kill in air RB with a prem plane + prem acc gets you 10k RP while in AB you get maybe 1k) thats because noone can respawn in air RB while in Tank AB and RB rewards are the same because you can respawn in both modes several times which leads to Tank AB being more time effecient than RB (but imo 10 times more frustrating and overall kinda boring )

>>154479664
no, despite Gaijin's continuous efforts

>tfw I prefer MG/FF over MG151/20

>>154480346
MG/FF (M) is imo fun because it has this "burst" style RoF

>>154480073
in tank AB everyone have 3 respawns (plus killstreak planes, that also count as kills), so each player can provide you with more than 5 frags.
In RB most players are usually out after 2 deaths.

>>154480346
I've somehow managed to kill medium tanks with the MG FF on Sicily while flying the 190s.

>>154480507
im not talking about what you can realistically have at the end im talking about RP multiplicators in the modes

>get myself to start warthunder
>get myself to play SB
>teamkilled
see you in a month

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when

))))))))))

>>154481645
Try to turn tank, it engages emergency brake like in parade)))

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>>154481645
when

>oops we forget to model its advanced systems (((((( only russian tanks are allowed these things ))))))))

Am I supposed to be using the zoom/aim feature when shooting? Every time it locks on my target I can't even come close to getting a shot near them during his and my maneuvers.

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soon

what's the criteria for what vehicles are allowed and which ones are not?

I remember that 1953 was the cutoff date but gaijin seems to have scrapped that idea a long time ago

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why is this acceptable?

>>154482510
what am i looking at

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>>154482436
-No Supersonic Planes
-No Fire and Forget missiles
-No Composite Armor

>>154482130
dont use the locked zoom use only the zoom to your crosshair

>>154482620
which gaijin will conveniently take back in a few years or so

>>154482619
a handful of polygons slapped together on the back of a g4m1

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*NEW LEAK*

Set to come out at the end of the month
2 new maps: Korea & Sinai and are tank/air maps
T-55 in question
gepard, shilka coming
A "open deck German SPAAG" so probably the Versuchsflakwagen 8.8cm FlaK
"British t-35" so the A1E1 "Independent"
Japanese non-premium dive bomber
British bomber and a premium bomber (probably the Hudson v)
another ATGM tank
Dev server soon™

>>154482510
20mm pointing at enemy plane is all protection you need))).

I'm downloading this game now.

What faction should I pick?

Did the slav devs make the USSR OP or is that just a meme?

>>154483165
RU planes are pretty mediocre, RU tanks on the other hand are god tier from the beginning of the tree all the way to the end.

>>154483165
Tanks or planes?

>>154483292

either or both

>>154483165
slavs

stick with air battles, avoid ground battles like the plague

stick with one crew slot

spend your starter GE on your pilot crew skill one that one crew slot

work your way down the tree, fly only yaks and lavochkins until tier 4 and focus on grinding the ilyushin line until the il-28

enjoy being cancer in jet battles

>>154483165
planes: bongs, japs
tanks: slavs tier 1-3, huns tier 4-5

>>154482891
>rakenjadgpanzer 2 (hot)

GERMAN BIAS STRIKES AGAIN

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>>154483496

>>154483496
YOU FOOL
GERMAN ENGINEERING IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD

>>154447106
How the fuck do I hit things
It feels like I should be but I can't

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>>154483496
holy shit


what the fuck

>>154484029

can you be more specific?

hit what things with what?

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>>154484196
JUST

>>154483432
>planes: bongs, japs
Dear god not the British.
He will lose most games because of burgers

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I really want to play WT:GF but not at 12fps. My computer is a pile of shit with no actual video card.
Is there any way to make the game run at atleast 30fps? I don't care if it looks like Minecraft, I just don't want to have to resort to playing some shitty replacement like WoT.

>>154484196
since when does penetration matter when It-1s cant be ammoracked anyway?

t. IT-1

>>154483376
In case of tanks Russia offer some nice mix between slopped armor and decent guns.

IS series with 122mm have nice pen and post penetration damage is glorious but guns require some practice to aim well. In case of mediums you have great mobility, slopped armor that is bouncy especially in case of T--44 and T-54. In case of planes they are nice energy fighters on low and medium altitudes.

USA is fun up to T3 then you will suffer. Planes are fast and their P-38 is best heavy fighter with insane agility.

Germans are typical snipers, king tiger is dope but turret is shell magnet and teams are shit. Their planes are nice but late 109's feel like Spitfire rape babies.

Jap planes are most interesting. At T4 they are dope. N1K and Ki-84 especially, kills everything.

Brits are nice but solid shots so once they pen shells barely do anything. Planes well you have choose Spitfire and Typhoon/Tempest.

>>154484523
You get 12 fps at absolute minimum settings at low resolution? Honestly don't know what to tell you desu.

>>154484523
Check old video card support.

How does anyone play this shit with the awful grind of ground forces?

>>154484196
germans get mouse guided rockets after slavs (3-4months)
german bias))))

>>154484694
I get 12fps at absolute minimum settings, lowest resolution and a few tweaks on the config file to try and make the game render less stuff.

>>154484708
I already have.

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>>154482891
>A1E1 Independent

An actual fun looking British tank?

>>154484228
Airplanes with my airplane

>>154484443
haha yeah

>>154484745
Buy premium account like good goyim.

If you want to quickly spade couple of tanks go into AB. It's the fastest way to spade stuff.
>>154484789
I know that feel. I get 20-40 fps on most maps and my PC is quite old.

>>154484789
Honestly and unironically upgrade your toaster. I don't have any other suggestions.

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Who /bully/ here?

>>154484905
play arcade for a bit, learn to lead, then play RB and hit things

>>154484949
I don't really have any money for spending. That's why I'm asking here if there's some sort of file I can modify or something.

>>154484948
except rp gain is dogshit even with premium+talisman

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>>154482021
at least its gun didn't fall off
>work in St.Petersburg
>have dream job: you design tanks
>work on successor to venerable T-80 line
>work goes... slow, because you actually make new tank, not just replace FCS and engine like guys who 'developed' T-90
>generals call and ask what you did with money
>"comrades, we design real tank, it takes time"
>"okay, but you have prototype to show us, right? RIGHT?"
>"uhm, of course we have"
>grab T-80, make fake turret with wooden gun for it
>they won't know any better
>everything looks good so far
>during show of offroad perfomance gun falls off
>yfw

>>154484228
learn bullet drop
learn gun position and convergance
learn where to shoot
learn to lead

>>154485058
You really don't have any other options, sorry. Even a 4-5 year old computer will run the game much better than that.

>>154485058
sorry man but theres really nothing you can do

WT runs actually really great just out of curiosity what pc do you have? i could run WT with old card support at med settings with my old laptop with a Intel HD 4000 4 Gb ram and a 2,6Ghz I5 with 2 cores at ~60 FPs in air battles and 30 Fps give or take in tank battles

>>154484196
they'll probably trim penetration, like they did with HEAT for M551

>>154485172

buy some golden eagles in the spirit of socialist solidarity, comrade

>>154485386
>Intel all-in-one
>i3 Intel core
>Intel HD Graphics 3000
>4GB RAM
>64b
I can run air battles alright, it's the tank battles that run badly.

>>154485289
Tell me more about how bullet drop works
Everything else I got down pretty much

>>154485825
>Intel HD Graphics

its like Arcade of wtg

>login
>mi 15 is unlocked

What, did they lower the RP costs again?

Also now I need like 1.5 million lions to unlock it.

BASED GAIJIN

>>154486036
yes

hope you have the il-28

>>154486135
No.

But I have the premium zero and the xp-38g which print lions when i do well.

Man, why are planes so based while tanks are fucking shit slow

>>154485550
>>154484196
let's be honest

does it really matter if it has 500mm or 1000mm of penetration?, if you get hit by an ATGM you're fucked no matter what.

>>154484196
Swingfire also have have thrust vectoring and operator can guide missile by just optics, without any input.

>>154485289
every gun has a different bullet drop and it depends mostly on the speed of the bullets (muzzle velocity)
I tend to avoid guns with horrible muzzle velocity like the mk108
dont be afraid to use tracers if you dont know how much is the bullet drop

>>154485938
oops ment to quote you
>>154487118
also lower muzzle velocity = more bullet drop

>>154486345
I would love to play tanks but the grind dude lmao

>>154487930
Who here /over 250 games in a tank and still not spaded/?

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Please tell me Caernarvon is worth it.

>>154488280
what tank you using to grind it my man

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>>154488280
>using something non-russian

>>154488280
it's not.
Cent. Mk.3 -> Cent. Mk.10 -> Chieftain is the way to go

>>154488543
t62 is pretty bad

>>154488308
Comet and second Churchill. both at below 40% winrate.

>>154488936
everything that isnt the IT-1 is bad

>>154488687
I just want to get out of the 4.7-5.7 death zone.

>>154488936
>t. hasn't unlocked HEAT-FS yet

>>154488949
jesus dude rip
if you really want to get high tier bong tanks, shekel up for the Strv 81. Its the only way really...

>>154489170
>40mm more pen fore 300m/s less speed
not worth compared to other HEATFS

>>154489369
>40mm more pen
What did he mean by this?

>>154489369
You say that as if its HEAT-FS is only 500 m/s or something rather than 950 m/s.

>>154489595
a shell that travels at 1130 is much better than one that goes 950

Plus, the 400mm pen is already good enough. the extra 40mm on the t-62 HEATFS is just a novelty

>>154488949
Why are you not doing well in the Comet?

Do you not have APDS?

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bote cbt fucking when

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>tank
>kill 4 enemies
>get killed by a SUPER SKILLED SPAA
>spawn in tank
>get bombed within 5 seconds

>>154491169
maybe you should try the same strategy they're doing, since it's clearly working

>>154490917
Aye my Comet is aced.

The APDS does little to no damage from the side, so you are punished for playing smart and not going full frontal.

But lack of reverse speed kills your ability to effectively fight mano a mano.

The APDS is also pretty finnicky, can bounce of T-34-85 turret curvatures, and the damage is random.

Meanwhile you will die to a single T-34-85 hit.

>>154491331
I don't have bias rounds unlocked on any SPAAs.

>>154490917
>>154491367
Also, one important thing I forgot to add.

>I< am doing well in Comet. I will generally be in the top 5 and my k/d is positive.

It's the teams that get trashed.

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>>154490953
>mfw the bote trailer gave wows a spike in playernumbers after seeing what kind of shit they will get in wt

>IS-2 hits my fucking 1 or 2 inch turret ring from over a kilometer away while I was reversing at 11km/h

What the FUCK are the odds of this bullshit?

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>cruising at 5km
>get wing blown off from random AAA
go fuck yourself gaijin

>>154491876
2 inch? As in just 50mm against a 122 round full of explosives?
I'd even argue that's easier to hit a target that's far away and moving at a constant speed on plain terrain than to hit one that's close and moving unpredictable and through cover. 11km/h is, what, 3m/s? Not so much desu.
Also the 122 nukes everything it touches.

>>154492921
I meant 1 or 2 inch as in, that's how small the opening is.

>>154491532
and then they all left after the novelty wore off and the flaws showed through.

>>154492257
>implying AAA couldn't do this IRL

>>154493006
Rounds on this game are, to this day, a single point, a laser, smaller than a bullet. The one you see on the kill cam is not how the game sees or calculates it

How do I play tanks without getting completely assraped?
I win maybe 1 out of every 15 matches, and survive to the end of those matches maybe 1 out of 50.
I don't ride out in the open, I dont do stupid shit, I just get completely fucked up and always lose. I spent five hours yesterday playing and got 50,000 lions because I kept getting fucked up and having to repair.

>>154493575
Play ONLY Russian or German. American and Bong tanks can't take a single hit ever, and only German and Russian guns have enough power to one-shot everything they point at. In this game where first to shoot wins, you can't expect to be even remotely competitive with shitboxes that require 3 or 4 shells to kill a heavy tank.

>>154493575
Play Soviets.

>>154491367
>>154491514
That's fair, but I would say the Comet is easily one of the best British tanks there is in the tree, you just have to avoid the utter shit memes. The Tiger II is the most painful source of them, I grinded my way to the Chieftain with the Iron Duke and I have to say the single most frustrating enemy was a Tiger II frontally.

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>get uptiered in the 109e7
>kill 5 planes
>3 of those kills were with the 7mm only
wow allied players really do suck

>>154494336
waaait did they changed the Black Princes name? i saw iron duke before when i played in moonspeak to get the bonus for germans

>>154494476
Iron Duke is a premium Comet tank that was an award in the event before last (I think).

>>154494585
ohhh i didnt knew that im playing only since 2 weeks again after not playing for 5 months

>>154494114
>>154494143
Thats what I'm playing. By tier 4 I'm just getting so shit on that I don't know what to do.

>>154494909
What is shitting on you in particular? And what Russian tanks are you playing?

>berlin
>see T29
>shoot at it
>one of those x-shaped pieces of metal eats the shell twice even though the shell clearly goes in the giant gap

>>154495064
I'm using the T-34-100.
I'm getting shit on by anything German.
I can't go 2 minutes into a game since I got this tank where I don't just get absolutely fucking wrecked.
Since I typed my original question, I've made 4,000 lions through 5 matches

>>154495378
I know it's a glass cannon, but my biggest problem is my teammates desu. Every game I play is full of people who play as if it's battlefield or call of duty.
All my teammates are dead within the first five minutes, and it's usually down to me and two others versus the entire other team.

>>154495378
the 34-100 has no armor so stay hidden and ambush enemys dont fight headon

>>154495378
This is probably most blatantly p2w tank there is.

Your gun can shit on everything. You can pen Panthers frontally. Caerns, Cents. Only thing you must aim at is King Tiger.

And considering it's premium so it makes more money, you must be very bad at the game proper.

Try playing some T-34-85 instead to get a hang of it.

>>154495378
Memes aside, flank. Germans love to sit back and snipe with their Tiger IIs, so they're fairly predictable enemies. I'm guessing you're getting mostly urban maps, so sneak behind their lines and wreak havoc. Also, put your game to ULQ because everyone else is playing that way no matter what they say. Or conceal yourself and ambush people. Also, PSU with other people. It makes the grind that much easier. Hmu if you want to play
t. Brit tanker who learned to not suffer

>>154494114
I'm playing Americans and just got the m4 sherman
Doing okay, already notices t-34s seem to be bullshit
I don't wanna use sausagenigger or anownigger shit though, I'm a proud, real trans-american

>>154494336
It's not the tank, but the 4.7-5.7 bracket.

If you examine the US/UK vs RUS/GERM (most common teams) tank lineup you will see that allies have no real heavy tanks (m6 and church 7 are mems), and no real 5.7 (challenger is a comet with down syndrome).

Meanwhile 80% of the enemy team will be T-34-85, Tigers and Panthers.

>>154495915
I have played the t-34-85 I used it for a long time, I was fine it that, but still not great.
I just don't understand what the fuck I'm doing wrong. If I catch someone from the side I'm great, my biggest problem is like I said above, my teammates are fucking retarded. They let three or four tanks pass through a zone they are like hiking at because they can't shoot for shit, they die, the enemy ends up behind me, I die. Right away.
That right there sums up 95% of my matches.

>>154496073
>PSU
Fuck, meant play
Fuck autocorrect

>>154495915
>T-34-100 is P2W
literally no, it's a Russian Panther II with a mediocre reverse and no gun depression. Quit whining. At 6.3 when it had the 10 second reload sure, but it's at 6.7 and has a 15s reload. If you can't kill it you're fucking bad end of story.
>muh meme bounce
yeah guess what fucking applies to fucking every tank at that BR? angle auto bounce. Get fucking good.

>>154496371
I'm glad we're in agreement that it's a Russian Panther 2 at lower br.

And without any direct non-paid equivalent in the research tree.

>>154496371
Don't respond to naziboos.

>>154496105
Tank BR need a total overhaul
make 9.0 the limit
make tiger 1 and panther 1.0 or atleast 0.7 br higher and other tanks too
make 4.7 an actual battlerating not some bullshit between 3.7 and 5.7

>>154496636
both are 6.7 you tard

>>154496758
Well fuck you too. Second point stands.

>>154496636
what is T-44 100

>>154496724
>Tiger 1
>6.0

fuck
no

Tiger E is already shit because of 6.0

>>154496846
A tank at 7.0

>>154496636
>>154496834
>at lower BR
do you even play this fucking game? Are you just here to shitpost about how hard to use ((( all the German vehicles are and how balanse))) bias the Russian ones are? Have you even played one tree to at least Tier 4?

And like >>154496846 said the T-44-100 is the direct counterpart to the Panther II and it's 7.0. Quit fucking whining and get fucking good. The Panther II and T-34-100 are some of the most balanced tanks in this game - the Panther II especially. It has actually decent hull armor that will bounce a lot of shit and a turret that's a fucking meme directly around the gun. The long 88 is only slightly worse post penetration than the slav 100mm.

>>154496918
the tiger is more than capable at its BR as it is
I mean that gaijin should spread out the battleratings not force me to fight tigers and panthers in my 4.7 or fight meme54 in my KT or club in the KT

>>154496918
Did you read the part about spreading out the BRs? if they did that a Tiger at 6.0 wouldn't have to fight a T-44-100 because it'd be 7.3 or higher.

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>caernarvon
>die in one hit every time
>centurion
>die in one hit every time
>T-44
>die in one hit every time
>it's not even worth it to slog to tier 4 americans
>Tiger 2H
>survive 4 penetrating 90mm shells from a SPershing and an M36 while my fellow mobile bunkers one-shot them for me

Well, I know what nation's tier 5 tanks I'm getting first.

>>154496105
That's true, actually, I'd never considered the bracket properly before.

I'm not sure about US tanks much or what falls into that bracket in their tree, but until the Charioteer at 6.3 (which itself is nothing special), the Comet is the only one that stands out as very good.

>>154497269
the tier 5 German tanks are usable but not amazing. The only really good tier 5 German tank is the Leo and that's a painful amount of grinding. I'd say the best tier 5 overall is still probably slavs.

>>154497243
So you want to elongate the BR simply to hurt Nazi tree?

Nice, you slavshits never cease to amaze me. The only reason uncompression of BR should ever happen is to separate cold war shit from WWII

>>154497418
Nah, fuck those millennium reloads and cramped crews that die in one hit.

>>154497269
look at how fuckhuge the Tiger II is and how far the crew is spread

>>154497546
>BR compression is a good thing

>>154497546
do you enjoy fighting the T-54 1947 as a Tiger II? Because I really seriously fucking doubt you do. Expanding the BR would help that not happen.

Are you the same shitposter as >>154496834? Can you please get a fucking trip so I can filter you?

>>154497557
>getting hit
>getting penetrated
At tier 5 if you get hit by basically anyone you're dead. Better to not get hit at all - this is why the IT1 is so good, it can hide behind hills and shoot over them.

>>154497546
Are you really this dense?

>>154497015
You're grasping at straws. Yes I was wrong about br because I don't have the tank myself, and I used the wiki to check it.

Point stands that it's the best 6.7 soviet medium without any equivalent. So you're literally buying power.

And stop projecting with the bias meme.

>>154497948
I'll concede it's the best slav 6.7 medium (actually I think the only 6.7 slav medium?) but when the T-44-100 is so much better for only .3 higher BR does that really matter?

>>154497758
I mean in the grind. I'm going to be spending literal months in these tier 4 boxes thanks to the GENEROUS))) RP gains, so I want to reduce the pain as much as possible. Besides, the Leo A1A1 and Rocketpanzer are both maximum bias.

>>154489148
>>154488280

Caernarvon is good, but the repair cost will eat your Silver Lions. As of right now though, grind the Centurion line to the Chieftain before the patch drops and you have another tank to grind to get to the Chieftain.

Or get the ATGM Centurion and grind the fuck out of it to the Chieftain.

>>154496080
Tier 2 is still balanced. Wait till you hit Tier 3.

>>154498250
Do you really think it's humanly possible to get to the chieftain from down the line before the update?
That's weeks of constant playing.

>>154496080
>shermans

they are shit, stop playing shermans line until you unlock T4 perishing and shit.

Play lights or TD until then, I prefer lights.

>>154498474
Does it only get worse? How's t4 and 5?
I feel committed now tbqh
What's the best American tanks in mid tiers in your opinions?

>>154498134

Right now, the grind on Germany is I'd say the easiest.

You got Panther II and Tiger II at 6.7 BR. Easily the best and most versatile Tanks at that Tier and BR. Get the Premium Tiger or Talisman the Tiger II H and grind the fuck out of the Medium and ATGM line. Forget about the Heavy and TDs.

>>154498673

If you haven't started Tier 4, its not possible unless you drop some shekels. You need to unlock all Tanks in Tier 4 to even be able to research Tier 5. I wouldn't sweat it, just take your time with it. The way I grinded to Tier 4 was that I got the Premium Achilles and did 4.0 BR games with it till I got to the Centurion Mk.3 then I talisman that(That was before the Premium ATGM came out) and got to Tier 5 with it.

>>154498904
M6 and M10

>>154498904
Tier 3 is nightmare both for Bongs and Burgers. Your guns can pen with proper ammo and aiming, but unless you hit ammo, you need 3-4 hits to kill, while Soviet and German tanks pen you anywhere, usually one-shotting you.
In Tier 4, Burger tanks get a little bit better when you reach 90 mm, you can kill things with it, but your armor is still wet paper tissue for Germans and Soviets.
Tier 5 is, uh, tier 5. Having or not HEAT-FS usually decides who lives and who dies. Also ATGM tanks.

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>German players

>>154499276
I've actually got the prem jagdbunker. That thing is basically invincible from the front, apart from the tracks.

>>154497546
>Uncompression

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>>154497761
He's as dense as the BR compression in this game.

>>154498904
>What's the best American tanks in mid tiers in your opinions?
in T3 it's M18 and Jumbo.
M18 is really fast, and has APCR. You still rarely kill something with it, but thanks to great reverse speed you can GTFO after your shell kills loader and turns turret ring yellow.
Jumbo is sort of troll vehicle. It has shit gun but lots of armor, and it's main purpose is to attract fire. You'll rarely kill something with it, but still get solid RP from 'hits' and taking non-pens.
in Tier 4 it's anything with 90 mm.
T25, M26, M36, doesn't matter. Armor isn't worth jack, all you matter is that you have gun that can kill when it hits.
76mm M41 is good choice if you liked playing M18.
in Tier 5, rush M47. You won't last long without HEAT-FS.

>>154455934
see http://www.combatsim.com/memb123/htm/2002/12/b25strafe/
>All in all these planes were devilishly well armed. And forward firing potency could be increased when the top turret trained its pair of guns at the pilot’s target. The fixed fifties were angled at minus six degrees for convergence at 600 feet allowing 175 rounds per second firing rate from the fourteen weapons making for a total of 3,200 kilowatts of gun power.
also of interest
>The “H” model’s five-man crew ultimately had eight .50s with 400 RPG and the 75mm firing forward. The dorsal turret had 400 RPG and the waist guns each had 200 rounds. The tail gunner carried 600 RPG. It could still carry 3,200 lbs. of bombs or a 2,000 lb. torpedo.
>It could still carry 3,200 lbs. of bombs or a 2,000 lb. torpedo.
and
>Four 5” rockets could be attached to the wings
>none of these are ingame
why does gaijin hate the b-25 so much?

also
>Just then a Zero bore in from about 6,000 feet at 1 o’clock in a diving frontal attack. Goodrich held the triggers down and a full side of fifties opened a path of tracers ahead. The hapless Zero began smoking and passed under the B-25 to crash.
>gooks did headons with B-25s in real life too
lmao

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tfw BMP soon

>>154499276
I have the Strv 81, Caernarvon, and Comet in my 6.7 line up. I have premium, and I need to get the Centurion 3, the 40mm AA, the tank destroyer before the Tortoise and the Tortoise. Will I make it?

what should I unlock first?

M103 or IS-4?

>>154501079
Flankable/10

>>154502395

Do the math, mate. If you don't use planes, and play RB. You'll probably be getting 4 to 6k RP on each game more, if you at least kill some people and capture points more if you do well on the game.(check how much you average and divide it by the RP cost of the vehicles you still need to get and you can get an estimate of how many games you would take)

You have 4 Tanks in Tier 4, not to mention 2 in Tier 5. It will probably take you around 350-400 games(This in an estimate considering you average 5k RP each game). At 20 games a day(If you can stomach 20 games a day) it would take you 17-20 days to get to the Chieftain. The patch would drop by then. Not even taking in to account the Silver Lions you'll need to purchase the vehicles which might slow down the grind.

Now that I actually sat down and thought about it, the answer is no. You would honestly need to be playing 30 to 40 games a day of British Ground Forces to get to the Chieftain before the patch drops and they put another tank before the Chieftain.

That's how Gaijin operates. Either waste shekels, or suffer through almost half a thousand game.

>>154501572
I thought the ground was supposed to get fucked up doing this

>custom battle
>2 fuckheads killing everyone
>they get up in arms when I ask them to stop

What is with this shitty game's culture of shitheadedness?

>>154503993
what tank will be in front of chief?

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>game keeps temporarily crashing
>screen turns black
>come back after few seconds, plane is all black and terrain and all other textures too
>if in a tank, the whole time screen was blank tank keeps moving forward if i was driving to new cover spot
>happens in RB and AB
>even happens if i turn on ultra slav

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS GAME?

Or is it my shit video card????

>>154503993
>That's how Gaijin operates. Either waste shekels, or suffer through almost half a thousand game.

That's how every game of this type works though.
At least the grind isn't as bad as it was in AW

>>154504578
never happened to me

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>>154505235

>>154499407
>>154499684
>>154500492
Okay thanks, been investing into tank destroyer tree since I figured my paper armor might be a long term issue
Are medium tanks basically not worth it till tier 4 then?

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>spain and korea have very similar climate and weather
>engine oil explodes way faster in spain

>>154506237
the shermans are very mediocre but doable
its just not fun

>>154506424
>spain and climate have similair weather
kys irl

>>154506630
I think it's trying to communicate

>>154506447
I mean I was doing okay, but it's only t2 and shit, and I was having a much harder time of it
Guess I'll try using tank destroyers while having some shitmans as the reserves?
How big is the advantage German and Russian tanks? Is it exaggerated or are they genuinely just much better?

>>154507040
germans OPOPOPis a meme but slav tanks get all kinds of shit handed to them like the bullshit that angle gets taken intoa ccount before the thickness of armor (its bs ) and other small things but overall a good player makes the difference

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>port town map
>in the middle of the city
>a-26 drops a bomb behind me
>no damage
>water splash

I think I've changed some setting and I need to fix it. When I'm using my mouse for flying mode, my keyboard inputs do nothing. Help!

What type of planes should I be using in tank games?
Can anyone spoon feed me a tl;dr of plane types and their roles?

>>154507352
kys subhuman slav(e)aboo

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>leading my team in points, kills, and captures
>some asshat sees me relaxing in AA after I secured the win
>decideds to push me into the wall because i'm in an undertier and kill me because he thinks i'm not contributing

kys, you managed to shit on the person that carried you
fucking arcade

>>154503581
guys please

>>154508315
I'm partial to the is4, but it doesn't look as good as flatpancake. I'm currently grinding the burger tanks and i still wouldn't say 103

>>154508172
are you retarded?

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>>154508293
>mfw i kill every tank with Soviet symbols on them and call the warcriminals just to see the chat explode

>>154508660
good. keep it up.

>>154503993
What tank are they putting in front of the Chieftain? If I unlock the Centurion 10, would I be safe?

>>154509223
as long as you're already researching the chieftain you'll be safe

>>154509392
Oh fuck. How much RP does one GE equal?

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>>154509223
slightly better centurion

>>154509751
What the hell is that

can the high explosive rounds of the PBJ-1J kill medium tanks?

>>154509223
it wil be most likely Centurion Mk.1 (like Mk.3 but with 17pdr instead of 20pdr) or Israeli variant of Mk.5 (Mk.3 with diesel engine and L7). Both should be placed before Mk.10

oh, and make sure to purchase it, otherwise you wont be able to buy it (and as following Chieftain), until you research and purchase what's before it.

>>154509824
i mean PBJ-1H

>>154509793
FV.4202

>>154509849
see
>>154509751

>>154509967
Is it confirmed? Will it be before the Cent 10?

>>154509967
oh great, more prototypes, just what we needed...

>>154510152
see
>>154482891

>>154509515
dunno but as long as you get even one exp point towards researching that you're safe

>>154510152
after cent 10.

literally an up-armored cent 10

>>154510316
maybe it's a typo and it's actually the fv-4005

>>154509515
flat 45RP regardless of rank.
This is why I rarely anyone uses it. You don't need it at ranks 1-3, and at 4-5 vehicles cost as much as premiums, because RP requirements go sky high, while RP gain / eagle doesn't drop.

>>154510657
return was ok back in the 1.15 era, but hasn't made much sense since GF were added

>>154511183
because you were researching entire tier (granted, there was more tiers)

It said I got some fucking supply box where do I find it?

>>154510657
>doesn't drop
doesn't change*

>>154509751
PREMIUM
R
E
M
I
U
M

>shkas
>100000000 rounds a second
>does fucking nothing

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>>154474280
>Jap tanks pointless
Just fuck my shit up
All the jap planes have good bombloads that will never be used ever.
I mean their tanks are alright just not worth the time to model them in to the game

>>154507659
Can anyone help?

>>154509751
Please be a premium
I feel like this will be an exclusive or something, like the E100.
I hope so...

>>154511875
that looks like tanks that would only go up to 4.7 br except for that sole tiger 1 copypaste

there are less IPs on this thread on a weekend than on the amateur game dev general

>>154512559
Fewer IPs, faggot.

>>154511659
>likely tier 5

lolno

>>154511875
>All the jap planes have good bombloads
excuse me?

>>154513047
I think he thinks two 50 kg bombs can kill a tank.

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when

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it would be nice if gaijin made an updated version of this image

>>154514202
>Most popular: I-16
Further proof that it's the best plane in game

>>154513010
I'll butcher the english language as many as I want, try and stop me you pussy

>>154514202
How come France doesn't like War Thunder?

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How do you counter a premium ATGM that suddenly pops out and disables you with the first shot, then follows up with another rocket in 5 seconds?

>>154515692
drive the IT-1

holy FUCK is this thread ded

>>154515692
-spawn in a spaag or bring a low tier vehicle to battle
-cap the flag and defend it
-die
-spawn in a bomber and bomb the atgm fags

>>154511875
A first generation Sherman would rape any of those tanks, Japs could not into tanks.

>>154517569
>A first generation Sherman

a M5 Stuart, FTFY

>>154517418
How can you possibly even reach the cap zone in something that weak, let alone survive long enough to cap? ATGMs are firing off within the first minute.

>>154518690
>literally tailsitting a bomber
>get no visible damage
that retard deserved it

>>154518690
>wasting all that time shooting at the fuselage
Why?

https://kerbalx.com/Wedgenet/Ilyushin-IL-28

when

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>>154519727

>>154519831
Ah yes. An example of a very successful tank design.

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>>154519727

Just started playing tanks two weeks ago, already at Soviet tier IV.
How do you even play the game at this tier? With bad teammates it's pretty ridiculous.

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>>154519727

>>154520065
Shit and phased out asap.
>>154520880
Hardly a tank.

Posting examples of poopy tanks using 2 turrets doesn't mean 2 turrets are good. There's a reason they were phased out quickly after seeing combat.

>>154521317

M3 did great initially. It just feel out of favor extremely quick like every other beginning-of-war tank.

You have to remember, the interwar notion was that more turrets meant more autonomy meant more active firepower engaging separate targets.

Then it turns out that wow, that's actually kinda shit and ruins communication/cohesion.

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y-yay.

Is this even rare? I got it because I thought it was rare.

>>154521525
So you're agreeing it's a bad idea.

>>154521641

I'm not the original guy going down whatever chain this was, but yeah - it was a bad idea.

The Lee just got by well enough because it was fighting shitty tin-cans and out-ranging things that weren't (early Pz IIIs in NA.)

Almost multi-turreted/gunned tank did pretty shit. Coax cannons were also deemed to be useless wastes of space pretty fast, despite appearing on the T1/M6 Program and prototype KV-1.

>>154521609

>Rare
>Easy, linear event capable of completion in less than a day

>Not a rare pepe mememachine from horrible month-long slogs people gave up on like the TB-3 and XF5F.

>>154521952
Also the a26

>>154513047
>>154513189
You apes I'm talking about the Army line where just about every plane gets at least 2x250 kg bombs.
>>154517569
Sans the left column's top three, yes

>>154521952

Yea but I'm hoping most people don't bother with them.

It looks nice in the soviet green desu

>>154522125

>2x250kg
>Good
>Jap bombs, good

>>154522125
250 kg / 500 lbs bombs are pretty inadequate after all the bomb nerfs, homeboy. If you can't carry 500 kg / 1000 lbs then you're better off using rockets, and the jap rockets on the N1K leave a lot to be desired.