Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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/Bullies/ when?

>>154445867
2nd for falling for the fedimeme

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Who did this?

>>154445961
It's not Fedimian hour yet
Go back to sleep

>>154446042
>of course

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>>154442131
>He doesn't have 1.3k def and 1.1k mdef

>>154446074
I guess that makes sense.

>>154446042
hitler did nothing wrong btw

When you use a warp scroll do you lose your bookmark when you return to it?

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>>154446030
Someone in the world hates Monks

How do I Chrono lads? I've heard of ChronoLinker and CryoChrono.

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is this true??

>>154446945
no

>>154446945
no

>>154446945

Would be funny if it was.

>>154446665
yes

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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/how-do-you-move-towers-in-gbl/326629/8

>AvantHeim exploiting in GvG
>uploads it on YouTube
>I post his video on my thread
>video is now private

Little does he know I downloaded his video yesterday and have a copy of it.

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Is this good exp/hour for solo grinding??

>>154447646
eh.. it's okay I guess.

I get near the double of that on my wiz3pyro3, but thats a class made for grinding.

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>Backstab, Rank 5, 40% attribute
>does 3000 damage crit from behind an enemy
Um what's going on?
That's a thousand less than a hit from Barrage and that hits ten times.

>Visit Tenet Basement
>No Bots

HAAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA

How crazy it is to enchant the leaf ornament helmet? I really like the helmet but I'm afraid of regretting it when I start dumping enchant scrolls on it.

>>154445930
Sooner than you know.

>>154448024
Backstab is useless without karacha. Get it. If you're not a STR rogue2 you're a shit rogue2 so there's that, too.

>>154446042
loli needs to read up on world politics more

>>154448247
Do it if you want but it's untradeable so if you get something crazy good for a class that's not yours it could be a massive waste.

Would not recommend.

>>154448703
i'm a dex rogue2 and it feels pretty good.
evasion helps my already high dodge, lachry doesn't work as i expect half the time but when it does it's very nice and capture is capture.
there aren't that many circles that synergize with dex early on unless you want to go full pvp with pets.

So I'm currently Cleric2>Priest right now, going into Monk. Should I just go priest 3 and take monk3 at r8? or Stick to priest3>Monk2 and take Inquisitor (no idea if it's any good)?

>>154449312
reroll and do cleric>priest3

>>154449275
>evasion helps my already high dodge
based falseflagger if you played rogue (ebin pretending to be retarded dex build or not) youd know that evasion is rolled separately and isnt actually based on the user's dex, its hard to fucking miss since it has its own pop up

>>154449506
i said helps, did i not?
go against phys boss aoes full dex with and without evasion and tell me it doesn't help.

https://vine.co/v/5mDuuUBaLbQ

>>154449720
>he doesn't get it
The average bowfag player.

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For a spear character, should I use this build?
Sword>Pelt>Hoplite3>Doppel>Dragoon

What classes work well with dragoon?

>>154449896
Yeah that's fine.

For Archer how much Dex should I have minimum? I've read around that you should stat it till you have 100 crit rate and just get the rest from gear.

>>154450124
enough

>>154449896
>>154450115


Not that guy, but which 1h spear should I look for? Brandish?

>>154450124
no longer true, just go full dex with very little str.

>>154449896
https://youtu.be/0pjrI_0s5pg
sw>pelt>hop2>cors2 shinobi/dragoon

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>log on
>instantly miserable
>run my dungeons on all 5 characters
>don't get what I want
>again
>consider staying up for TBL
>remember the cats TBL webm and the demon TBL screenshot

>>154450431
join a guild

>>154450431
Socialize

>>154447189

If they move your guild tower all the way, how would you get it back to the original position? Is this exploit?

>>154450431
make friends

>>154450431
ERP

>>154450431
Just put yourself out there

Just turned Sorcerer and I'm noticing some sort of bug where my summon seems to turn back to level 1 during any cutscene event. Resummoning doesn't seem to fix anything but my TS turns back to normal when the event ends even if I don't resummon it.

A few times my TS has been fine in cutscenes but i don't know what I did.

Anyone know anything about this?

>>154451223
Probably related to that bug that would make bosses come out at level 1

>>154447189

>Probably because he doesn't want anyone else to know about their strategy. It's their rights to do so.

>However, considering there will be so many players accusing their guild for cheating/exploiting (even though they do not do that) just because those players have less knowledge and experience about the game, AvantHeim are forced to reveal about how they could do it.

>And now that people have seen how they did it, the video owner immediately took it down. You already got your proofs that they are not cheating anyway.

>I've been in the similar position so many times with my guild, so I'm not surprised.

>I'd say nice job to AvantHeim for founding that trick. I know that you guys are the top guild from SEA. I wish there is a way where we can face off against each other someday. GG and keep up the good work!

Crimson member, ladies and gentlemen.

On a 2str:1dex build, should I go sissel or glad for a swordie? Money is not a problem, I can afford any.

>>154452035
Sissel
Glad Band is already shit and it's going to be even more shit

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People still play this junk?

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>>154452035
>>154452075
Not just bracelets. Every single item acquisition should be put on hold until we get the next batch of new items from ktos. Until they stop shitting out items that are LITERALLY better than Lolopanther but are actually attainable, then you can start spending time and money into getting them.

>How do you know there will be a next batch?
Some items types weren't added AT ALL on the last patch. Including things like Rapiers which are absolutely critical.

>>154450431
>tfw this game got 100x better when I joined a guild and made friends
Sometimes the stupid shit I read in guild chat is just what I need to get through the day

>>154452431
>login
>everyone is talking about dick butts
>suddenly an hour passes

>>154450431
Just leave. They've never done anything for you.

Why can the paladin master teleport around but normal paladins can't?

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Just kidding, I'm fucking off to bed as well.

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>>154452431
Not him, but as a question on guilds
At what point should I ask to join one?

Don't want to be a useless low level to them
I know I'll get biased answers for this, but what are the guilds from the thread like?

>>154452320
Getting a pair of Sissel isn't a bad idea evenn with new things comming
Or you think you can live with Zachariel Badge up to 330 if the RNG fuck you over new rings? All the new recipes are going to be extremely overpriced at first, also Sissels are cheap if you want to lose your sanity with Galoks farming

>>154452976
4 online here. Two are afk.

>>154451842
In their minds, blatant exploitation is a "trick" that they should be praised for.

>>154453002
You can ask whenever, most just want you to be active. Though if you want to be actually useful, go meta for whatever the guild focus is.

Most guilds are dead or full of meme spam.

>>154453079
Yeah, we had about 10 people on not 40 minutes ago, which I guess is okay.
You'd think more people would no-life it up on a Saturday night, but oh, well.

>>154453002
Probably Future proof or Cute would be the best guilds to join. The other ones are either full,dead or have Lalacow in them

>>154451842
>crimson is complete and total cancer
SHOCKER...!

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TFW you win GvG but still get spanked

>>154453002
The only guild content to do in this game is GvG, really. All /tosg/ guilds will accept people regardless of level, build, and playtime.

>>154453551
And GvG is fucking trash in the current state
90% of it is about dodging stronger guilds minigame

>>154453551
>>154453002

There's also the hampster dungeon. I always bring low levels to the dungeon. We'd let the higher level members fight the mobs and bosses, while the low levels would help hit the devices.

What events can give gem abrasives? So far I know of:

Curling at Kadumel Cliffs
Pendulum at Evac

Any others?

>>154450352
>>154450124
last thing I heard was needing to have at least 50STR and 130DEX, rest is preference.
And enough CON to survive

>Some faggot afks during TBL
>"LOL I THOUGHT YOU COULD HANDLE IT, LOL UR SO BAD"

>>154445867
The way ToS ERP usually goes(thread theme):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylco87FyYjU

>>154453857
dodging and zerging with lots of multihit

Relatively new player here.
Can you actually go full dex with a bit of con or is it just a meme? Sure I crit a lot but I do pitiful damage. I'm wary of mixed builds because they assume you'll get endgame +crit rate gear easily.

>>154457669
Run away retard.

>>154457909
Every online community says this no matter the game. Check literally any general. It's just a matter of which piece of shit you waste your time with.

>>154457669
with full dex builds what happens is that you crit way more then you not-crit, and the constant critting you do will out-do the damage you'll get from going str instead. Basically you're using high crit rates on high base damage and multi-hit abilites to shit out dps. but i know shit so

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>>154458164

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I'm close to losing my shit replying to this Crimson cunt. How do you Klai people deal with them?

>>154458515
suck his dick

>>154458493
I've played cbt and I know the game hasn't improved since then.

>>154458293
What stats should I look for on gear then?

>>154458515
Which one? Most of them are obnoxious.

>>154458293
this "STR is weak" meme needs to die.

>>154458712

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/how-do-you-move-towers-in-gbl/326629/19

This one.

>>154458808
Thats their boss. What interest does he have in bothering replying? Btw, he pretends to know about the game but he is a shitter. Check next time if energy bolt moves tower, its le pure knockback. Also, everything dubious about sorcs can be considered unintended, bugged and may be fixed in a year, like mummyghast in icbt2 had this awesome massive magnetic force like pull in one spot and then in itos its suddenly aoe knockback and useless shit. So the reason its not fixed is because imc is retarded piece of shit company.

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>Yep, that's the Sorcerer's work, all right.
>What a nice trick they have there. Nice job AvantHeim.

>>154459072

I'm still debating on whether to continue being coy about it or full on implying implications.

>>154459479
coy all the way to the end.
't usually works best if the thread isn't dying any way soon

Anyone wanna whisper and talk and shit? I'm super high and just wanna chill while I farm.

Claerice Bodes on Klaipedia US

>>154460017
sure nigga. im tite as fuck as well rn. whisper XxX420blzaeitXxX

>dropped a card and a cube off manticen
????

>>154460590
Yeah, it's weird.
Even sub-bosses in dungeons can drop cards, now. People got jelly as fuck at my honeypin card even though it's shit.

So I've been gone for about a month or so, is non-rodlero shinobi still completely and utterly fucked by r8 or are they usable now?

>>154460978
Shinobi was always about abusing the skills Bunshins can use. Rodelero just so happens to be most exploitable one.

>>154458808

>Lolipan and Azebu joins in
>AvantHeim going to full on damage control mode

>>154461715
>meanwhile Ohayou sits silent
Really.... makes you think................

Is possible to get this gloves?

https://tos.neet.tv/items/503102

148 block penetration and two slots!

>>154462018
Yeah PM me for recipe.

>>154461914
Makes me think that they are not retarded forum faggots, yeah.

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>>154458808

Towers aren't supposed to move.

>>154462282
Better be a retarded forum faggot than a retarded discord normie.

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>>154462331
tfw you know you can't get your GM to find atleast two towers in the entire world that aren't neutral to celebrate 9/11 the halaal way

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With all the
>Thaum will be the new meta because-
and
>No, Thaum is fucking garbage because-

People have been yelling about the 300ish defense buff or all the con helping with the new stupid strong mobs, but no one has mentioned shrink body. That's 75% reduced damage, seems invaluable. If I made one I think I'd level shrink over swell, at least by a bit.

>>154462439
Those are not mutually exclusive

>>154462508

thauma is great and will always be

thauma 2 alone gives you 550 atk for people who use weapon+offhand, this is stupid strong with fencer 3.

while doppel does not get benefits from two swells, one arm + deeds 15 is also great.

>muh reversi scrolls

reversi has a big cooldown but thauma get 3x overheats

and swell/shring body is futureproof utility

>>154462282
>dissing literal heroes
Wow, Ohayou going morally lower and lower. What's next, 9/11 jokes involving Futureproof?

Any guildless varenians there? join our guild, our guild master is a girl

>>154462827
>while doppel does not get benefits from two swells
http://www.tosbase.com/database/attributes/206010/
That doesn't affect 2h weapons?

>>154463127
Girls can't lead.

>>154463254
who the fuk cares, sounded qt as fuck every hampster dungeon

>>154463127
>varena
theres a fking varena guild?
since when?

Any idea why quests progression notice on right sometimes disapear? Opening quest log fixes it, but not always.

>>154463127
>>154463376
Not a tosg. Only retards went to the varena server so they had to fill it with normies.

>>154463186
>http://www.tosbase.com/database/attributes/206010/

This I don't know

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Who did this?

>>154463629
If it works like swift step, it doesn't.

>>154463680

AvantHeim.

Why is the greatest NPC enemy of this game an archer?

Why aren't there any swordsmen bad guys?

>>154465404

Rumplestiltskin.

Can you get a 2nd gem abrasive with the pendulum minigame in evac? I always seem to get stamina pill only.

>>154465774
I 'm not sure. I seem to always get a stamina pill the second time, but I feel like I've gotten two level 1 abrasives. Maybe not though.

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wtf I hate Comfy now

>>154465774
You can get lv1, lv2 or even lv3.

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>Twenty levels away from hitting R8
>Losing motivation to play with each passing day
>Can barely finish quests because everything hits like a truck
>No one wants me in grinding parties

Why is the Alchemist life so hard?

>>154466081
What the fuck Ohayou? Why would you shitpost one of our guys?
I think that's an outright war declaration to /tosg/. Should we banish them from these threads?

>>154466164

Same for me. But I will make it. I'm grinding out 3 areas a day! All quests, map exploration and kill counts!

Doing this I'll get just enough to hit class level 15 and be ready for rank 8.

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>>154466081

>Katz innocently ask how to move tower throughout the thread
>"That was just a conversation I was having with my guildmate about the movie 21. We were having small talk about movies and such and have nothing to do with this thread. All that I wrote here I never did accuse anyone. I was just asking how did the tower moved :)"
>NA players are the ones who's bringing up exploitation
>AvantHeim trying to change the topic saying they would've lost anyway

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

How much does it cost to get both swell arms and brain to max attribute?

>>154466420
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/206001 +
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/206002 + https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/206003 is around 10 mil, probably a bit less

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>>154466358
Good luck anon, im sure we can both make it

>>154466164
Because your build is shit. If you made the only correct alchemist build, you would solo everything with ease.

>>154453934
Which guild is this?

>>154466695

which is...

pre-fix pyro 2 linker sorc?

>>154466706

Comfy.

What would be the skillpoint distribution on a Pyro C3?

>>154467001
5 into hell breath, 5 into firewall, and 5 into enchant fire

>>154467072
>enchant fire

>>154467001

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skill-planner#2122211ff.15233f41516a7585.1f2e31576573.11283a41516475

>>154467001
You need max fireball, at least 1 flame ground, then it's up to you.

14 Firewall if you're going to get it or don't bother. Flare is only useful for taunting things.

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>>154466081

>Im not toxic its the truth they come crying, and trying to win on forum instead :cry: btw im not in guild anymore

>>154466532
Thanks anon, I didn't know there were calculators there.

>>154466215
But it he's not even in a guild

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Reminder that R10 archer will be cossack!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65JHnUA2OhM

>>154467551
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21222888.1123354551.1f2e3541586171.1f21314c5a6175
Something like this, then?

>>154468231
whats a good build for cossack?

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>>154468310
Something with Falconer and Hakkapeliitta/mergen to imbrace the mongol in you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gl5zgFvYPU&ab_channel=DjukiNew1957

Any falconer 2 around?

Just turned falconer 2 and I admire your masochistic tendencies for grinding with this class. As a guild-free solo player, with sometimes .900 ping, I hope to get inspiration from you guys as I crawl to rank 8.

Also is it ok taking a Khasti bow to 280 instead of a light gorithos?

>>154468231
but with all R3-R8 skills unusable while mounted

>>154468160
Yeah I guess you're right, a random guildless person is getting overly defensive for a mafia guild. Totally legit.

>>154468493
What's the problem with Light Gorithos? Btw I totally don't have its recipe that's useless to me

How legit is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAdaVcXcals

>>154468231
Vodka3 Moskau3 Katyusha2 Borscht1

>>154468160
skysora is in crimson, was looking for a spot to afk in dina bee when i saw him there

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>>154468310
15 Gallop
15 Riding Shot
10 Battle Chant
Leftovers into Lance Stab because dancekick suck and you don't need Agile Riding with that speed.
Make sure to get attribute that lets you use Musketeer skills while mounted.

If Julie was still around she'd fix all of this!

She was too good for us.

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>>154469550

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua-uUjSxLw0

The world is a cruel place
And those who understand are the cruelest of all
But even angels cannot fly on broken wings forever
There will be no dawn
There will be no tomorrow
The angel falls tonight
Good bey
Sweet Julie

Which grinding spot is best to skip with all these cards?

Alemeth/storage/evac? and which one of them is the fastest in terms of exp gain?

>>154458515
Crimson got to where they are through some good PR and stacking the guild with the really dedicated players who no-lifed the game while their friends/ex-guildies couldn't catch up due to other commitments.

Most of them have this holier-than-thou attitude and try to dictate the game for everyone else just because they're the top dog and have the highest numbers of hours logged. Of course they won't admit these unintended "features" to be exploits, since they have their own bag of dirty tricks. It'd be the same as admitting to themselves that they cheat. A lot of guilds don't want to fight them because they just want some fun fights, and not have to deal with obscure stuff that are blatantly unintended dirty play while Crimson trashtalks them for not doing 'research'.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/how-do-you-move-towers-in-gbl/326629/48

Ayy lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAczu_F3DLs

>>154469957

You can usually get to mid 260s with exp cards including ones from kill counts for level 10 cards onwards. Which should get you in range of Mavens.

Alemeth and Mavens seem to be the busiest grinding spots now. Hardly anyone does evac now and I don't think I've seen anyone ask for a storage grind party in weeks.

>>154470068
thanks mate.

r8 is 275, yes? is there a way to reach that with 0 grinding? or is grinding really required?

>>154468284
It might be better to put those enchant fire points in fire pillar or hell breath. Fire pillar in your case.

>>154467546's pyro build is good too.

In your case, if you're not planning something for rank 8, you can consider taking a circle of linker somewhere early on, though it'll delay chrono 3 til rank 8.

>>154470141

If you have a token active and do every kill count from level 10 cards onwards you'll probably just barely reach rank 8. Not level 280 but either class level 15 or very close to it.

It's still grinding and some of the maps are fucking terrible to grind kill count on, but I'd rather do this than be stuck with nothing but shitty grind that requires a party because at least I can split it up, go at my own pace and am not usually stuck in any place for too long.

>>154468231
what cossacks have to do with ruskies beside raping them

>>154468723
I don't know what the fuck that is but it's giving me motion sickness.

>>154470301
thank you, using all level 10s to reach r7 would still take me to 260 ish with all the level 11s right?

>>154470397

There is enough exp cards in the game to get you to around 261-262 (excluding low level kill count stuff). With playing normally, dungeon runs, missions and so on you'll end up mid to late 260s when you finally run out of cards.

>>154470395
An indian telenovelas

>>154470482
again, thank you mate.

is Maven grind that bad/mind numbing? i havent reached that far and is it as fast or faster than alemeth?

>>154470316
Cossacks were subjects of the Russian Empire

>>154470595

It's the mind numbing kind of grind. You sit around dropping AOEs. The exp is good and even a shitty party can average 8-9 million exp an hour. But that is still almost 3 hours per level after 270.

>>154470595
>is Maven grind that bad/mind numbing?
If your group is good Maven is an amazing place to grind
But if your party is slow or outright shit without a Peltasta or worse, a full STR Peltasta getting raped every 2 packs, then it's going to make you roll an alt over grinding there

>>154470048
Why does everyone that speaks this language sound like they are perpetually whining?

Stop letting every single sentence hang jesus christ.

>>154470048
Holy shit they all sound like literal underage.

>>154468693
Nothing's wrong. It's just that I already have a +5 Khasti with a green gem lvl5. I dunno if it's worth buying a light gorithos when I could upgrade the khasti.

>>154470048
So why is the OP so butthurt about losing the battle anyway? I don't get PVPers. It's the same as the ones who want no neutrality, they're only happy when they win.

Also those voices are why I refuse to use discord or any other voice chat. Same as with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OzNW7ex7sI from last thread

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>>154470048
>those voices

>about to cavity search the cow
>she logs out

>>154471605

Butthurt? How is it butthurt? He's just asking how a tower is moved. That's all.

Is Second Demon Prison shit area/without quests? It's not marked on leveling map.

>>154471820
t. Cuckzenberg

>>154470316
Cossacks weren't some one, monolitic, centralized group. You had various variation of cossacks. Besides all slavic kingdoms like polish or russian ones tried to swallow them into their armies or hire them with various degree of success. Their formations survived and stayed most relevant in russian tsardom. Even one of leaders in white army, which tried to prevent bolsheviks taking over the country during revolution, was ataman, which is title of cossack leaders. First as somewhat tribal leaders, then high ranked officers of russian cossack armies.

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>>154471605
The OP in that thread was Katz, and he's not even butthurt about losing (although crimsonfag and avantheim tried to make it looks that way).

He's asking about exploit to push guild tower in GBL, which is kinda retarded because you cant do anything if your enemy push it toward their own base

t. concerned law abiding player currently not in any guild

>Skysora gets BTFO and angrily leaves
This is the average Ohayou member. Top jej I feel bad for Clover now.

>>154471605
Nice try crimson

>>154472080
>is kinda retarded because you cant do anything if your enemy push it toward their own base
You could not let them have unrestricted access to your tower long enough to move it a significant distance.

This would be an issue if they were using hook or something to teleport the tower, but it seems like an "Oh, huh" situation and not a "Ban this, IMC!". situation.

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>Want to have fun
>Restarted my character twice already

How do I level faster, I'm really tired of this

>>154473503
even if they only move it a bit at a time it's not going to take that long to push the tower to the middle just by poking with miritis.

>>154473503
Mirtis knockback is a no cd skill, they can push it quite far in 30sec and there's NOTHING you can do once it's happened.
It's an issue because there's no way to push it back toward your own base

>>154473898
Then push theirs to your own base

>>154473512
If you don't have fun leveling, why are you playing? You just want to get to 280 to say yo did an quit or something?

>>154474072

Alysse I know you want to join Crimson and all but you don't have to shill this hard.

>>154474186
It's not that, I just don't enjoy when I need to repeat the things I already did to get back to the point I restarted from

Makes me feel like shit when I get to a decent level, realize a mistake I can't change, and have to redo it all over to fix myself

I heard beet pays more for shitposting against Crimson nowadays, that's why dotardgarden switched to shitting on Crimson instead of FP.

>>154474251
What's with you guys hating those two guilds in particular too? For that matter, why do you even want it changed? I thought /vg/ would be the one to figure out how to move towers and do that all the time instead of crying all the time about some guild. It seems really weird.

>>154474507
>/vg/, a board of generals, is a hivemind

>>154474507
I mean when you compare to the game coming out of beta, you guys were all "we're gonna purge the BRs and Pinoys, and spam red orbs at newbies once the game is F2P!" now all you do is bitch and moan. What the fuck happened?

>>154474507
t. crimsonfag

>>154474323
Sounds like you should plan better. I mean what have you been doing that fucked you over so bad you need a full restart? Give some examples.

>>154474418
>implying one or the other
eg gets paid twice :^)

>>154474418
One box a week for each one my man.

>>154472692
skysora is ex-crimson, he was never in ohayou

>>154474725
shinobi

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>>154474590
>/vg/, a board of generals, is a hivemind
Isn't that the point of general threads? To create a space where everyone thinks and acts the same and never interacts with anything else? It's why generals are so easy to troll that they get paranoid and stupid.

I can only imagine an entire board for generals would be that to the extreme.

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>Backstab is "balanced" entirely around the Karacha set
>have to get behind them in melee range at a very specific angle
>still does less damage than Multishot
That's it
IMC's done it this time

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>>154472692
Skysora was never in ohayou
You get btfo

>>154475091
No. Do you think there's a complete overlap in mentality between the kind of people who go to this general and /csgo/, for instance? Each general is different on its own, since no one has /vg/ as their main board, you'll often have a majority sharing a common main board (/a/ and /jp/ in this general's case I don't go to either btw)

>>154475520
No one in this thread acts like anyone from /jp/ except the roving shitposters who show up there sometimes.

But I'm saying each thread does tend to seem like a hivemind, at least on /jp/, not that this entire board is the same hivemind.

But still, I'd expect more of 4chan that whining they can't beat some guild instead of being the bullies themselves.

>>154474934
>>154475494
>this mad
lmao

>>154475812
>I'd expect more of 4chan that whining they can't beat some guild instead of being the bullies themselves

Come on now, it's [current year], /b/'s age is long gone

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>tfw Dragoon is basically rank8 ready
>tfw want to roll a Miko too
>tfw have the Cleric alt in Crystal Mine farming Deathweaver cards
>tfw i can't level it because fear of fuck up the requirment
MIKO WHEN?

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>>154474418
You heard wrong and YOU need to spanked

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>>154475812

You really can't see Comfy is trolling AvantHeim right now? Literally none of them is calling for bans or accusing anyone of exploiting. All Katz is doing is baiting on the forum for (You)'s and getting them to make a fool of themselves.

>>154476107
Says the same thread that wanted to wage a race war against BR/SEA

>>154476218
What's this character's name?

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Slow leveler here, at what level would a character with a meme build be useful enough to join a guild

>>154476726
>I am a thread

>>154465753
Rump is a demon who did nothing wrong, but got shot into space, anyway.

>>154476896
/tosg/ guilds are so dead they pretty much bribe people to join with free power levels, free tp, free handjobs
I don't think you need to worry about being useful, as long as you log on every day or so.

>>154477702
t.crimson

>>154477702
>/tosg/ guilds are so dead
FP, Ohayou, and CNL are not dead at all

>>154476896

What build?

so my friend wants to make a shinobi, what's the meta at rank8 for it? is there a build that's easy to solo? i know nothing about swordman. appreciate the help, thx

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I have literally never seen a sadhu.

Why?

>>154478384
Because you don't play the game.

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>>154478384
Nobody likes the sad guy anon!

why is archer3 rogue3 suddenly a thing?

>>154478056

the other 3 guilds other than FOE aren't dead either, just small.

FOE is a clique and they all moved to another MMO

>>154478605
even sly? how can we talk to them?

>>154476880
Teko

>>154478605
lolipan was right after all what a shame

>>154478221
meme outdated build

I'm feeling indecisive about my INT/CON build for Cleric, could someone tell me which of these has potential and if they need any work at all?

Druidivis - http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/dbegl8q7of/
Kribbalist - http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/dt2aviawg8/
Orakrivis - http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/tzqnkcfiy9/

Or should I stop playing since I'm circle 5 and wait to see what Miko is like?

>>154479808
the last thing is what I did

>>154457669
"full dex" builds for swords or archers is mostly a pvp thing.

Most people get about 150 - 250 dex and then dump the rest into con and str to suit their needs. Anymore is overkill and is literally just for increasing your evasion rate, which admitedly is a pain in the ass for some classes or for anyone who doesnt follow suit with the high dex builds.

just seeing the names of class combos that people make is the best part of this game

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Would this work? I'm considering running a full CON something, stack reflective cards and just stand in magic circles.

>>154479808
What the fuck do these korean skills even do?

Is there a translated version somewhere?

>>154479808
Duidivis: stop at druid2 and pick taoist for insane zaibas damage and good single target damage and you are golden

Kribbalist : oh-shit-nigga-what-are-you-doing tier. Stop at cleric2 and pick something else at r6, also kabalist c2 suck

Orakrivis: zaibas without taoist lack damage, might as well pick diev3 if you want oracle3

>>154480295
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/cleric-rank-8-preview-translations/318592
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/rank-8-swordsman-preview-translations/314399
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/rank-8-archer-preview-translations/316642

I'm not sure about Wizards.

>>154480763
>>154445867
>Rank 8 Update Preview:

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>>154480701
>taoist
I've heard this class takes an insane amount of silver. Does it? I don't want to invest in a class I'm not rich enough to even play.

>kabalist c2 sucks
Yeah, but Clone seems fucking amazing for farming or is it really not that worth it? And then there's level 10 Ein Sof...

>>154460772
Can you take a vid of it's effect with a wugu if you have a wugu? Im curious more than anything about that.

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Which class has your favorite of each
>Male outfit
>Female outfit

>>154481043
>I've heard this class takes an insane amount of silver.

Just like when people whine about necromancer cost, or sorcerer/fletcher sp drain.
You realize that they will increase the silver drop at lv280+ content right ?

>Clone seems fucking amazing for farming
Cloned monster didn't give extra exp nor double loots and limited to non-elite mobs

>>154481382
>didn't give extra exp or loot
Fucking dropped

>>154481043
>taoist
it's still managable, the rain calling is the only thing you need, really. zaibas hits like a truck perhit when it's active and you can melstis it safely inside sterea trofth

https://youtu.be/x_SsiQg-Ia8?t=131

>>154481382
>You realize that they will increase the silver drop at lv280+ content right ?
As if you will kill any 279+ mobs after you done with questing/dungeoning to 330.

>>154481256
>Male
Plague Doctor
>Female
Corsair

Is the DP2 grind still necessary or is there enough quests now to just quest until Alemeth?

>>154482002

My friend, there are enough quests now all the way to 262.

>>154481753
I could say the same about my lv280 necro, i dont need that many flesh pot now that im done grinding for level and only do pvp/boss rush.
The hardest part was buying pot/charm to fuel your character to max level and even then i still managed to get profit from silver drop

>>154478604
safely killing strong bosses with burrow and twin arrow

>>154481256

>Male
Probably Doktor or Dragoon

>Female
really tough one but I'd say Rogue or Featherslut

>>154478604
>suddenly

>>154457669

Full Dex is viable for later game content, but there's points in the game where you'll be doing trash damage against the majority of mobs because you've exceeded the crit cap by 100-200 points.

>>154457669
Just stop leveling DEX once your crit rate hits 100.

Enemy crit resistance will never matter because there's so many ways to boost your crit rate in game anyway.

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Will this be a nice build for rank8 coming out?
Wizard3>linker2>runecaster>warlock>sage

>>154481256
Male dragoon
Female rune caster

>>154482875
>runecaster
No.

>>154481256
Do C3 outfits count?
>Male
Paladin
>Female
C3 Swordsman or Corsair

>>154482964
Why is rune hated?

>>154483298
>Why is rune hated?
You just won't be doing any damage with one nuke that will do like half the enemy's HP and then be on cooldown forever.

None of the nukes in this game actually nuke things hard enough.

>>154483558
>None of the nukes in this game actually nuke things hard enough.
Snipe

>>154458667

Well for Gems the undisputed gem for dps is Green Gems, since red and yellow are utter dog shit.

In terms of gear, if you invest more into DEX I'd say focus on getting aoe attack ratio gear (glad bands, vubbe fighters, etc.)

Max Peta/Lolopanther Medal/Terralion is a given. (animus if you're a caster)

For hair enchants, try to get high phys attack values on your hairs, secondary attributes like crit rate, crit attack, elemental damage, and hp are just luxury.

Most of your physical damage will be coming from your weapon.

>>154483558
Right, I forgot that class only had one skill!

>>154482875
>Wizard3>linker2>runecaster>warlock>sage

>runecaster
no

>sage
no

>>154483298
Destruction is a nuke skill that is already kinda bad right now and becomes mostly worthless at r8 content.
Justice is a joke, even after the worthless buff.
Ice only reason to exist is the icewall combo since they probably won't add any new ice skills anymore, and is honestly not even that good. If it was at least up for every ice walls it would be decent enough but the 3 minute cd is simply undeserved.
Giant would be extremely good if it didn't disable all skills but utlimately the only purpose it has is giving the pelt more armor which is pretty much a gimmick.
Protection is a good skill and a fair condition protection skill.

The truth is that this class should have been hidden max rank or something, because in all honesty a class which main gimmick is casting strong skills at the expense of using materials and being forced to go wiz3 for actually being able to cast your skills should pretty much be the strongest class in the game when it come to burst.

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Guys, give me some good PvP oriented support cleric builds.

I was thinking something like krivis into priest3 into oracle into pd. That gives me daino, res and lv 10 revive, not quite sure if I should all the way into p3 however; counter spell for the clusterfuck that's pvp and prophecy/bloodletting for cc and status. No clue how to stat that tho.

Give me your cleric memes /tosg/

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How it's going your carding?

>>154484387
Rune Caster has literally only one skill.

The others does what, +300% to ice. Do you have ice skills? No? Useless.
Rune of Giants: You get big and can't do anything but jump. Amazing for a magic damage based class. Not.
Rune of Protection: Protection from status ailments that you can just use a dispeller instead, and crit resistance if you have a spr build, which you would only remotely have if you were becoming a linker 3 stat stick for spr for some reason.
Rune of Justice isn't a second Rune of Destruction.

>>154484569
Algiz is terrible, I couldn't even break out of a PP permastun with it.
No point in having it when clerics exist

>>154484810
>Do you have ice skills? No? Useless.
Right, I forgot it was merely a self buff!
I gotta remember to warn chronos to not level Quicken either since you know, they're not good at autoattacking.

>>154484969
They shouldn't level quicken.

Also that's a shitty support build too.

>>154484569
It's a shame because it has the best costume
I'd go through the trouble of the class if I could just transfer that outfit

>>154484969
If you want a rank in pure support, why dont you make a full support char?

that build is fucking shit

>>154481592

>36k zaibas

THIS PLEASES THE GOD THUNDERER

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which premium outfit is your favourite?
maidfags and furries need not apply.

>>154484685

mine is total shit, I'm running the 130 dungeons with 4 alts but I usually get one or two cards per day, sometimes I do a dulla adn this helps a bit but I don't like wbing at all

Remember kids, all alchemists should be building linker3 if they want to have an easier time finding groups in r8 maps!

>>154484969
>Right, I forgot it was merely a self buff!
Who the fuck are you going to buff?
No one uses not-deployment ice magic except the random cryokino, which is a pretty bad build for pve too.

>>154484569
Secret classes should just have 2 or 3 ranks instead of 1 shitty one. You can't even really call them a class.

>>154485226

Really like the qs3 outfit, shoes are ultra cute

>>154485226
The sailor outfits

>>154484650
please reply, respond, acknowledge, come back to, counter, react, answer, reciprocates, retort, come in, feedback, act in response, answer back, be in touch with, come back at, field the question, get in touch or talk back.

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>>154485250
Do Deathweaver and Chappariton, both are free cards on 10k reroll cubes
Chappariton might be contested on Klaipeda like it is on Fedimian but that card mine of Deathweaver is probably ignored and you only need a lv 50 alt to solo it easy if need
Abomination is another card mine but thats more annoying

>>154485226
Swordie or Pelt3

>>154484650
Cleric3Priest3
Just keep that team alive 24/7

>>154484650

That is a really good build, especially with a decent amount of points into SPR to buff up your Zalciai, Blessing, and SS.

I would highly advise Kabbalist over PD for PvP though, since you already have prophecy the x7 meme adds so much more utility than anything in PD.

>>154484650
>>154485884

You'll want a decent amount of CON too though, 1:1 spr:con and you should be golden

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>first character is a monk
>give up because it's a monk

>make a rogue because I want to try backstab
>it does less damage than two seconds spent mashing Critical Shot
>alternatively I could get the Karacha set and still do less damage than barrage

>next is a sapper
>it's the most useless pile of shit ever

How do I stop fucking my shit up, for real

>>154484685
CA-PY-BA!
CA-PY-BA!
CA-PY-BA!

>>154486259
Start by learning to play instead of looking for a win button.

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>friend comes back to tos
>tells me he got a super good deal for ella cards
>jokingly asks if he got scammed nuaeles by jace
>...

>>154486259
monk was my fifth or sixth character and the third to rank 6 I love it.
been working on a archer3 scout rogue for pvp, and i'm seriously happy with it too. maybe you're building wrong, or your expectations are too high? sounds like you might have been building STR? give us some more info, anon... we can help/

>>154486259
All character classes in this game are at least usable for something. However, as a general rule, gonna lay out what the mediocre classes are for the average player.

Sapper
Hunter
Rogue
Paladin
Monk
Runecaster
Chaplain

Stay away from these unless you know what you are doing because they are equipment dependent/have weird or highly specialized roles.

>>154486459
what's the scam?

>>154486459
who is jace ?

>>154486851
Nuale cards are discontinued because Nuale is a one time boss in the demon prison questline and they were removed as a reward. Right now everyone has some equal to their number of alts that made it to demon prison, but until IMC realizes they fucked up it's impossible to get more.

To add insult to injury a level 10 Nuale card is +10% magic defense so it's one of the best support cards in the game.

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>comeback after a 3 month break
>it still runs like shit
Man have they even been trying to fix anything?

Help me anons, is there a werewolf boss in ashq underground prison?

>>154474507
>I thought /vg/ would be the one to figure out how to move towers
Believe it or not, we're the relatively anti-exploiting faction in this game. I should've reported it back when I first saw a tower move, but I didn't have screenshots or any idea if it would would leash or get stuck, and they'd just leave it broken like the rankings anyway.

>>154474596
BRs and Pinoys have been purged, red orbs are intended, and PvP is in ruins because everything is bugged. It's impossible not to doompost when things are still in a closed beta state.

>>154480146
The proc rate is low, but you could supplement a healing kabbalist that way.

>>154486849
Rogue c1 is a good utility class, only idiot who fell for backstab meme go rogue c2-c3
Paladin and monk will get more love with R8 inquisitor

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>>154487074
>imc
>fixing anything

>>154487021
Nuaele is a demon lord in ktos now.

>>154486412
There are a bunch of classes with win buttons and no learning required. He picked none of them.

>>154487021
That's actually adding injury to insult. Either way, this is all true and they're only going to go up in price as more people realize.

friend of mine bought templeshooter lv1 from Jace for over 600k and canceril for over 300k, he's an actual dipshit

>>154487074
>DoppelUsingCyclone.webm

>>154486849

>sapper

c1 brings detonate traps, a must for utility pvp archers
c2 brings broom which is amazing as a deploy and forget spell

>hunter

c2 hunter is also okay, good for pvp and has some pve use, like a mini frost pillar

>rogue
c1 is pretty strong by it'1s own, capture and sneak hit is no joke
>paladin
can't say but inquisitor may make it good, but really, a very shit class
>monk
IMO monk is okay, if monk was a little bit better they would be broken because you can't just give too much DPS for someone who can be a cleric, diev, priest and etc, it's the jack of option for solo players, decent at pvp

>runecaster and chapladin
this is true shit tier, maybe they will eventually receive the shinobi treatment (forced senseless synergy just to save the class) when a new rank arrives

>>154487314
>Have to get 20+ people together to kill an enemy with hundreds millions of HP for a 5% chance at that card

Jesus.

Do Schwarzer Reiters need a manticore not card since their retreat shot scales with movement speed?

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>stacking nuale when r8 exists

>>154487714
Makes me wish giant swing had an actual use
The animation is fucking hilarious

>>154486851
He gave away his 2 nuaeles for 1 ella, then said Jace was nice enough to give him another one for "free." Nuaele has wrong tooltip right now (says flat mdef when it's really %), can't be obtained anymore and only a few know its true value.

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>>154487870
>doing anything when R8 exists
You see, having everything scale nicely to R7 and then go absolutely fucking bananas is good game design.

>>154487870
It's for PvP memes. Quickcast isn't applied till the very end of damage calculation so having lots of Nuale cards means Wizards functionally cannot do shit to you due to the nature of their spells being low base damage and multihit.

>go around pewpewing everything
>hit boss
MISTAKES WERE MADE

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Dade

>>154467001
15 Fireball and 10 Fire Pillar are your main priority. If you're Linker (which you god damn well should be as Pyro3, class is garbage without Linker to support it) then you want 14-15 Firewall. 1 in Hellbreath for filler, potentially 1 in Flare to taunt, potentially 1 in Enchant Fire to kill objects faster - as if you need need the help as Pyro3. Dump the rest in Flame Ground. Attribute priorities are Fireball >>>>>> Flame Ground >>> Firewall (Flame Ground = Firewall if you're Linker).

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>>154466695
Ill have you know, my build is flawless. I have every single cute costume from the whole wizard tree.

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Futureproof is recruiting new members. We're a /tosg/ -exclusive guild that's been around since Korean Open Beta. We're open to everyone who browses /tosg/, regardless of level, equipment, build, or playtime. We're very interested in raising new members from zero to endgame, so if you'd like to get help and advice in making your first characters while staying up-to-date with everything that happens around the server and in the future, join us.

Whisper Lolipan for an invite, or if you have any questions. If I am not online, I'll get back to you as soon as possible.

>>154489665
>Thaum, Pyro
>cute
ur like blind, nigga

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>spend a million silver upgrading a skill
>it's shit

>>154489796
Which one?

>>154489969
Combustion

>>154490027
kek

>>154489778
>thaum
>not cute

What are you smoking?

Ill give you pyro though. its stylish but not cute.

>>154490107
post cute thaum, if you can

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>>154490027
What happened to this?

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>You can try any class combination!
>Unless the class is actually good, then we'll nerf it so hard it will be a wasted circle
>Actually not even if it's good, as long as it shows up in someone's meme video we'll nerf it
>Except for the ones that are actually so overpowered that it breaks the game, we'll pretend those ones don't exist
>We don't actually play our own game so it's kind of hard
>Anyway introducing R8 where everyone gets 10k base damage skills heheh

>>154490340
thanks missinfo

>>154490278
Nothing. Nobody tried it because it can't work.

>>154490616
It could somewhat work if Dig was instant at C3.

>>154490779
no

>>154473512
Stop trying to make special snowflake builds. Research your build thoroughly before you make a character or you will be useless.

>>154460772
Wait does EVERY sub boss in dungeons drop cards? Because if that's the case I'm gonna go farm the shit out of some rare cards with my Corsair.

Also, read a post on the tos forum about werewolf card giving bonus dmg/crit on proc, this true?