/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

>>154371674
Based R&I.

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Based Erdogan

>>154371674
based

>>154371743
>I get it, but this shit crosses the line. You have to be able to make those distinctions or otherwise you'll just come across like a massive dickhead.
Making fun of Jews and their influence on medieval economy is practically national passtime of 4chan and GSG in particular. Casual racism doesn't even begin crossing the line within such culture.

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>>154371743
>That alone disqualifies me from being Italian
Do other Italians look upon Sicilians that much?
How much are you "old fashioned" anyway?

I guess the same as Montenegrin are to us Serbs?

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>>154371743
I'm a monkey and every time someone calls us subhumans in 4chan I laugh. You should start accepting the bantz if you want to survive in here.

>>154372002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl_1rQ4JR6c

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>>154371662
Post best Europes.

>>154371845
Jews aren't a real culture. They were largely invented after the "tragedies" of the second world war.
Casual racism is still racism. I get it if it's simply a joke, but crossing the line with saying "All Sicilians are lazy" is a pretty dick thing to do.
>>154371886
I don't know much about the present situation in the Balkans.
I don't consider myself to be even somewhat close to Italians. We are gonna create our own mini-state here soon anyway. By "we" I mean a tightly knit group of my friends I guess you could call them.
>old-fashioned
Didn't get what you meant to say here.
>>154372002
Monkeys can't speak English.

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>>154372096

Hey /gsg/, what's a fun nation to play in NWO?

>>154372103
Well how rural/decentralized is Sicily nowadays anyway?
For instance Montenegro has shitton of small close knit villages even in 21st century.

>>154372103
You are either an unfunny troll or a delusional moron, at any rate I don't see a point to continuing this discourse.

>>154372140
India/China/Nigeria

Basically anything with many pops

>>154372049
We call literal monkeys, rats and animals desu.

>>154372103
Yes we can and we do it better than most of you self-righteous eurocucks. Also, if you want to have a safe space fuck off to plebbit.

>>154372140
Nationalist China in the 1947 start.

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In what Paradox game is it easier to make a roman empire with these borders?

>>154372152
It's rural enough that you can set up a small anarchist "state" here without gathering too much unwanted attention.
>>154372218
You are either an unfunny racist or just retarded, at any rate I don't see a point to continuing this discourse.
>>154372247
>fuck off to plebbit.
You do realize that for this statement to make any sense I would've had to have visited reddit at least once in my lifetime?

>>154372357
Vicky 2. Clearly.
No not really, ck2 is the real answer.

>>154372357
Europoor Universalis

>>154372357
Europa Universalis: Rome

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>>154372357
CK2, EU3 or 4 and Rome Universalis.

>>154372370
>You do realize that for this statement to make any sense I would've had to have visited reddit at least once in my lifetime?
>fuck off to plebbit
When did I say fuck off BACK to plebbit?

But still, if you want to be a triggered SJW babby you can always go there find your brethren you fucking cosa nostra nigger.

>>154372413
>>154372430
>>154372471
Getting conflicting answers here.
I like CK2 but it gets incredibly difficult the bigger realm I'm trying to manage.

>>154372370
Sicilians can't even troll properly, epic.
>>>/reddit/

>>154372642
Thats why Byzantines get Viceroys.

>>154372238
>>154372247
Thanks, will try.

>>154372642
>it's more difficult to manage continent spanning realms

Who would've thought!

>>154372627
>SJW, triggered
Nice meme words there, buddy. I don't like reddit though so I'm gonna stay here. Just keep your racism and shitty jokes to a minimum and it'll be fine, I promise.

>italian navy
Yeah, those Italians are pretty fun to look at. Good thing I'm Sicilian.

Also, American criminals aren't my brethren and I'm whiter than your Indian ass.
>>154372647
This link doesn't even lead anywhere. Are you sure you aren't the one who should go to reddit?

>>154372723
And to add on this shorter lifespan due to Reapers Due probably immensely helps this.

>>154372642
CK2 gets increasingly easier the bigger your realm is because your power relative to your vassals just keeps growing.

Looking for a japanese games that was like crusader kings.
Kinda obscure and old, setting is in space.
No traduction available if i remember correctly.

Help.

Reminder that Reddit is based and should not be used in a negative context.

ok

>>154372835
>a games
we don't like your kind around here.

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>there actually are sicilians who think they are not italian
this meme is worser than Padania-tier autism

>>154372642
Easiest is such a nebulous concept, EU:R is probably strictly speaking fastest because you start big (or so I think, never played it myself), Eu4/3 are better designed for mappaining on that scale, and CK2 let's you gobble up kingdoms like candy if you are good at it.

>>154372751
You're agreeing with me? What's the point of this post?

>>154372824
I guess you could say it gets easy when you have the money and power to get a retinue bigger than anyone's army and hire infinite mercenaries but you gotta get there first.

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>>154372917
Sardinians I get, but Sicilians? It's bullshit.

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>>154372835
Maybe that old HoI3 type game that ends up in space?

Speaking of old stuff google gave me this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theocracy_(video_game)

>>154372917
I'm not Italian. I don't follow any Italian cultural traditions if you can even call them that.
I've also managed to secede from the government of Italy so you couldn't even call me Italian in that sense.
>>154372983
I'm a lot whiter than these images might suggest. You probably couldn't tell me apart from a white American.

>>154372917
No one is saying they're not "Italian" because then they would be retarded as Sicilian and Sardinian and Ligurian/Piedmontese/modern Lombard/Venetian people all belong the group of Italian people
They want political independence from the State of Italy.
State and Nationality aren't the same. Just because most of today's countries are also cultural union it doesn't mean you can't have independent countries like you had in the past with italian city states.

>>154373018
>RTS
Fucking twitch garbage

If you want old grand strategy look at Medieval Lords: Soldier Kings of Europe and Koei titles

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>>154373061
>I've also managed to secede from the government of Italy so you couldn't even call me Italian in that sense
so you are shitposting from your hut in the mount vesuvius while eating your homemade pasta made in the dirt? fucking epic

fuck i missed this post
>>154372103
>We are gonna create our own mini-state here soon anyway. By "we" I mean a tightly knit group of my friends I guess you could call them.

>>154373208
There are actually loopholes in the Italian piece of toilet paper they call the constitution that allow you to renounce your citizenship and secede from their authority. It's what I and many other Sicilians have done.
Fucking epic? Yeah you bet it's fucking epic, you probably can't do even this much in your third world shithole.

>>154373208
>homemade pasta
>not maggot cheese
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_marzu

>>154373061
>I've also managed to secede from the government of Italy so you couldn't even call me Italian in that sense

Are you the king of Tavolara?

>>154372835
I focused my googlefu and found it again : Rai 7 PUK.
Now that i can read decently japanese, i'll suck less at it, probably.

>>154373326
>Sardinian subhumans actually eat this
Not that I'm surprised. Good thing I'm Sicilian and we have the best culture in the whole Mediterranean.
>>154373372
I'm not a king or ruler of any kind. I'm just a private citizen now with my private property under my jurisdiction. Basically fuck the Italian government and the fuck the Sicilian collaborationist unionist government.

>>154373372
Antonio Fumagalli, king of Quattro Formagio Sicilione Empire

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What did he mean by this?

>>154373395
Should've learned English first instead. fuck off to your meme thread and don't show your nasty face around here anymore

>>154373494
>Lucifer the Lightbringer
Gee i wonder

>>154373514
Meme thread ?

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>>154373494
Fuck off chad.

>>154373445
>I'm just a private citizen now with my private property under my jurisdiction
ROADS?

>>154373571
Fuck roads lmao.
Seriously though that's more of a meme than a real issue for us.

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>>154373307
at least I can kill niggers

thank god I'm not a cosa nostra hitman living on mount vesuvius eating maggots to survive

when is this general getting nuked?

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>>154373638
>at least I can kill niggers

>>154373667
I mean.. this is pretty tame for gsg.

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>>154373445
>I'm just a private citizen now with my private property under my jurisdiction
>Basically fuck the Italian government
Not only you're a mafia nigger but also a lolbert cuck, truly an amazing achievement.

>>154373307
Well i can beat up faggots.
We also beat up presidents brother since he was on the street during parade.
Im cool.

>mfw Croats do it too but EU doesnt bother them about it
Fucking hypocrites

Why are capitalists so retarded? They keep building the same factories which end up failing terribly all the fucking time.

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>>154373745

>>154373802
Newsflash, Vicky2 economy is shit.

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Ireland is easy they said
Nothing ever happens there they said

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>>154373831

>>154373856
Ireland being a baby island has'n been true since before old gods release. People keep repeating it because there isn't any alterntives other than thinking for yourself.

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So this game needs work

>>154373908
half of these are made by self-deprecating ancaps and I know it.

anyone got a good blank world map

>>154374051
>half
more than that I have accurate info as of the beginning of 2016

>>154373939
nice

>>154373939
Japan is rightful Yugoslavian clay.

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>>154373937
What did Old Gods change?
>>154373997
Serbians dont have commies, Tito systematically purged them from our socialist principles.

>>154374192
>What did Old Gods change?
Nothing, people are just retards and start in 867

>>154374192
that fucking webm
jesus, ive seen it before but where is it from

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Why aren't the other families building trade posts?

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Epic

>>154374239
But 867 breaks the research, world peaks technologically like 200 years faster.
>>154373939
>not having Tokyo
0/10

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srbija_do_Tokija

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>>154373997
>you are the only one who's a nigger here
says the lazy fatass mafia hitman

>>154374272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdXGhsAynGI

>>154374258
I saw that!

>>154374353
>lazy
Nope, pretty hardworking.
>fatass
Nah man I'm sure I'm not that fat from all that running up and down mount Vesuvius.
>mafia
I'm not a criminal as I've stated multiple times.
>hitman
Haven't killed any people as of yet but if you wanna be the first one go ahead, let's meet somewhere in Sicily.

>>154374420
Good job, can you answer the question now? >>154374329

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>>154374192
>What did Old Gods change?
Start date. The reason why Ireland was a great baby island on release was that it was Catholic (aka the only playable faith on release) and Isolated. With the introduction of other playable faiths, other start dates and tribalization of ireland in those start dates, it's only remaining benefit is being isolated. And norse being what they are now, even that is not the case anymore.

>>154374487
I have no idea

HPM decision for removing France and A*stria's cores in Italy when? Save editing feels like cheating even if you increasing your infamy.

>>154374515
Oh Norse invade them?
Okay. What about Sunset Invasion...it doesnt count because its later in the timeline right?

>>154374484
>t. Anonymous

>>154374487
Have you checked how much money they have?

>>154374487
I blame the goyim

>>154374603
stop replying to him. see >>154374115

>>154374592
Sunset Invasion doesn't affect anything because nobody has it enabled.

>>154374603
t. The whitest Sicilian motherfucker you've ever seen
>>154374652
As if a meme post is gonna stop two people from having a consensual dialog lmao

>>154374592
>What about Sunset Invasion...
There are two kinds of people who have it enabled, people who aren't smart enough to disable it and people who are so fucking tired of CK2 they just want to set the world on fire and see it burn.

Anyone who asks what would be a good newby start doesn't belong to either group.

>>154373856
In my last game, the black death went everywhere but the british isles

Even Iceland

>>154374726
>set the world on fire and see it burn
It wrecks the world that much?

>>154374685
Are your parents and ancestors Sicilian? Then you're Italian my friend. You may renounce your Italian citizenship but not your biology and DNA and all that good stuff that makes us a society. You can't say you're not European just because you don't like it.

>>154374760
Well, whenit doesn't bug out, yeah, especially if it shows up before france/ibaria/britain had a chance to unite andbuild up an army/tech. HRE, if formed usually stops it but that's a long shot in and of itself.

>>154374608
They all started with 500 gold, as I'm playing a merchant republic so all families have an equal start.

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>>154374765
>Croatians and Bulgarians arent South Slavs

>>154374765
>Are your parents and ancestors Sicilian?
Nope, they were white eastern European immigrants to Sicily. I'm culturally Sicilian and genetically white. You can easily become non-European culturally if you ever move for a long period of time. Granted not all people can accomplish that but it's pretty easy if you don't care about your home culture.

>>154374239
>>154374515
I started in 1066 though.

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>>154374895
>second generation immigrant
>having zero idea where to fit in culturally
Gee who would have thunk

>>154374895
Wrong. White Australians (not abos) are Europeans.

>>154374952
Second generation? Huh? Where did I ever say that?
I know quite well where I fit culturally - I'm Sicilian.
Also I'm whiter than the fag you've got on your pic. I assume that's you?

>>154374984
You can call yourself whatever you like for all I care. I'm just saying it's possible to change your culture if you really want to and you don't give a fuck about your previous one. But I think only whites are capable of this, niggers and spics haven't developed the mental capacities needed for this yet.

>>154374765
Kek, you've obviously never been to Sicily. Palermo is like 50% niggers and arabs and the "Italians" aren't much whiter too. I've last been there in 08, nowadays it's probably closer to only 20% "Italians" left.

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>>154374895
>slavs
>white
It all makes sense now, you are one of those rootless whinning faggots striving to find an identity.

On a side note reminder to report and ignore shitposters like this Italian autist.

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>see the Sunni Caliph fighting two wars against India
>his levies are ticking down by 1k each month.
>decide it would be a good time to declare on him as he has 7k left and they're all fighting in Baluchistan and I have more men than him
>as soon as I declare he suddenly has 15.6k men available.
>Caliph dies, ending his wars against India
>he raises 10k troops in Damascus and comes right for me

What the fuck happened? How does he double his fucking levies as soon as I declare on him?

>>154374931
>I started in 1066 though.
Well then, so long as all you want is to learn basics (advanced shit involves pushing crown level claims and that's hard to do in britain) of playing Catholic Feudal Lord you chose the best option. Black Death is simply a new problem to deal with for all the rulers in the game, and much like Sunset/Mongol Invasion, setting it on random should only be done if you like to see the world burn, because infrastructure necessary to resist it in any meaningfull form requires buckets of doge and high construction tech.

>>154375119
They aren't Italians though, they are Sicilians. I'm whiter than basically any of them. And yes, I think the black problem needs to be taken care of by a more competent non-collaborationist government but until then I will have to stay out of the legal binding of the constitution.
>>154375121
>le slavs aren't white meme
Even if 99% of them weren't white, I am. So it doesn't matter.

>>154375140
Vanilla happened.

>>154375140
Relations bonus from defending in a holy war?

Have any of you tried HIP's shattered world scenario? Is it good?

Reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niyBO-o4qQI

>>154375121
And I don't need to find an identity because I'm Sicilian, don't be a racist fag and learn to differentiate between "similar" cultural groups like Italian, Sicilian, Subhuman Sardinian etc

>>154375273
So you're a slav living in Sicily who doesn't think of himself as Italian but Sicilian?
I'm trying to understand. Having a civil discussion.

I downloaded MEIOU using the steam workshop downloader but I can't figure out how to get the mod to work. I've tried editing the descriptor.mod file with no luck. Any of you lads know how this shit works?

>>154375345
>slav sicilian
Fuck off back to your shithole m8 you aren't sicilian.

>>154375140
Defending versus infidels is one helluva drug. It boosts your levy across the board (unless you are already god emprah), and lets you summon holy orders for piety only.
>>154375341
It's a shattered world scenario, if you like it - you like it, if you don't you don't. If you want to go one step further you can install CK2+ instead and fire Ancient religions with it resulting in quite hilarious world.

>>154375351
I'm a slav genetically speaking. A white one if you for some reason think slavic countries aren't majority white.

But I'm culturally Sicilian, I don't even know what being a slav entails culturally aside from shitty 4chan memes.
>>154375410
It can't be mine if I've never been there. Your logic is flawed just like your little nigger brain.

Where should I play as an Ashkanazi Jew?

What start date?

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Allahu akbar or burn the infidel?

>>154375463
Funny stuff, this is exacly what muslim descendants do.
They dont know what muslim entails except aside from blowing themselves up.

>>154375343
Fucking retarded video. We don't talk like this. Maybe the retards up north do, but we Sicilians don't. Learn the fucking difference between posting memes, okay?

>>154375554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd9Qlx-rf3Q

>>154375549
Muslims aren't a genetic group though and no race is safe from the muslim virus. And I don't believe in violent stuff (aside from murdering commies) so I'm fine.
>>154375626
Real funny! I'm eating some pasta right now while micromanaging my mafia operations! FUNNY right?

>>154375459
I destroyed his 10k stack, wiped out like 5 smaller 1k stacks as I made my way over to Jerusalem, then when I got there another 7k stack comes and attacks me. Is this going to happen the entire war?

>>154374726
>As if a meme post is gonna stop two people from having a consensual dialog lmao

exactly. fuck the r&i squad.

>>154375789
Couldn't agree more, my friend.

>>154375673
You aren't genetically Sicilian either.
Technically, a Sicilian is Italian just like someone from Texas is American.
"Siclian culture" is a variation of Southern Italian culture. If you want to be called Siclian you need to accept being called Italian too.

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Let's whack the devil out of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBTcf-TuYEY

>>154375913
Observe it instead, faggot

>>154375834
Nope, in the recent years the shift has become even more apparent. I can think of only one way I could be called Italian - I am a resident of the Italian Peninsula. That's about it.
I hope you wouldn't call all the sandniggers in Germany Germans just because they currently share the same land mass with ethnic Germans because of their shitty leftist government.

>>154375913
who are you gonna play as

>>154375676
It will probably die out eventually, but then the minors will join, best way is to cut whole affair short 100% occupy target dutchy/kigdom and kill anything that tries to lift occupation. Watch out for attrition.

>>154375676
and then after sieging down a county a 16k stack arrives. Nice.

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>>154373939
no shit.

>>154375494
Wait till one arrives at your court, get him to tutor your son, then culturally enrich your dynasty with Ashkenazi debutantes.

>>154376070
>slav think he's sicilian
>roaches think they're germans
What's the difference, faggot?

>>154372002
Hello Alex when will you add in France getting cores on Wallonia?

>>154376170
I know a roach who is so German nobody knew he was Turkish until we saw his family.

>>154376070
that is the whole point I'm making.
the only way for you to become Sicilian is to BECOME Sicilian. living in Sicily is not enough to become Sicilian and by extension Italian. If you make the efforts to become Sicilian you're also becoming more Italian. You can't be Sicilian without being Italian.

>>154375530
Burn the heathen.

>>154376170
The difference is I'm white (therefore a person) and I can think that without being delusional since I've lived here all my life and I don't identify with slavic culture one bit.
Slavs and Sicilians are both people whereas the same can't be said about Germans and roaches.
>>154376270
You can be either Sicilian or you can be Italian. There is no middle ground here. Surely you don't think that you can't be Scottish without also being English.

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>>154376020
Okay, shit, we're going all in then

See you in a while

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How do I settle as a Merchant Republic? Do I just revoke all of my new counts' land and then I can revoke city titles and be able to settle as a republic?

>>154376138
Why cant I skip that and make myself a count somewhere?

Give me a colonizing country and a region to white wash and play as in vicky lads

>>154376753
Just use the ruler designer?

>>154376871
I know it exists. That's why I'm asking who I should replace

>>154376861
>and play as
then play as*

>>154376937
Oh didnt see your original post. Just replace some count in the levant.

>>154376871
Good point but Watch MDE presents WORLD PEACE airs friday midninght on adult swim

>>154377046
deep post
also watching tv to boost a jews ratings
lmao

I vaguely recall reading that it is possible to open up new building slots in CK2 since the latest update.

Do you just need lvl3 prosperity and the focus? I've had that on a certain province for about 50 years now, so I'm assuming there is something else to the requirements.

>>154376861
Ukranian Madagascar

>>154377123
It has an MTTH of 65 years, increased if your ruler has less than 14 stewardship/learning and reduced if they have more.

At high values of both the MTTH drops down to 30 years which means you get three slots a century on average.

>>154376861
Turkish Greece

>>154377123
The chance is not high, having good stewardship helps read rip_prosperity_events.txt for details. CTRL+F "Reclaim Land"

>>154376474
While I'm no expert on the cultures of the British Isles I don't think your comparison between Scottish:English and Sicilian:Italian stands for the reason that Italian isn't a well defined culture, but rather made up of different regional cultures, including Sicilian.
It's not Sicilian OR Italian. It's Sicilian OR Genoese and both are Italian. You can't be Genoese without being Italian and you can't be Sicilian without being Italian.
Look at the origins of Sicily, they're the same as the rest of South Italy, Greek colonists came over. Sicilian culture developed in more or less the same way as the rest of South Italy.
That's not to say Sicily is the same as the rest of South Italy. Sicily has changed rulers constantly, Greeks, Romans, Muslims, Normans, Spanish all had their grasp on the island at one point.

>>154376474
Do you identify with your parents at all?

Also, what the hell happens when you renounce your Italian citizenship and don't have another one? Do you go get a visa to be allowed to stay in Italy, or just hope nobody kicks you out?

>>154376735
Please Respond.

>>154371662
Reminder that Black Communist China > All Other Chinas

>>154377424
merchant republic, nomds and tribalism interactions are.. FUBAR. You need someone who actually did it to give you advice. Not many people around who fit that criteria.

goals as americain vic2?

>>154377371
The current culture of Sicily and the rest of Italy is different enough for me and many other people to consider ourselves Sicilians. Of course I don't mean that there is a uniform Italian culture, what I mean by the word Italian is "any culture of the Italian Peninsula that isn't Sicilian".
>>154377404
My parents were born here too so obviously I identify with them.
You can renounce your citizenship and secede from the Italian constitution through various loopholes which may have been intentional. I'm just a stateless person now I guess, I don't really know the proper term for it. And I live in a small non-state territory which obviously isn't recognized by the Italian government, but that's to be expected.

>>154377632
Anschluss Canada
Get China tier pop(200-250M-ish) and industry by the end of the game

>>154377708
>I have my very own definition of the word Italian that means what I want it to mean

Oh okay then. I guess you aren't Italian*.

*Italian in this context means "any culture of the Italian Peninsula that isn't Sicilian"

>>154377524
There's one guy here that replied to a question about this yesterday who was playing a Merchant Republic Israel. I assume he started as nomad Khazaria, I was hoping he's lurking 2bh

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Ragnarr would be proud.

>>154377773
I'm not going to war with fellow anglos

>>154377806
seems like quite the modern scandi

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So I went to war for Taiwan and Japan added on the rest of outer Manchuria for their wargoal. Now I have this border monstrosity. What should I give Japan that would be fair if I give that land back to China?

>>154377818
You are 'liberating' them
the CBs you'd have to use for 2 step annexation are literally free people and liberate country

>>154377790
You obviously don't know shit. I bet you think different Chinese ethnicities are basically the same and the Chinese language is even a thing. A pretty ignorant frame of mind if you ask me, not that there's anything wrong with that. You are a mere human after all, we all hold pretty retarded beliefs to one degree or another.
And my view of these cultures isn't even a fringe opinion, most Sicilians I know agree with me more than they agree with you.

>>154378019
Jokes on you my moms already dead

>>154377915
i just want comfy isolation

>>154377894
Give up Sakhalin, give the rest of Outer Manchuria to Russia.

>>154377894
Give them some treaty ports

>>154378071
You could still get china tier pop though
by cheesing and mass occupying other countries

>>154377632
Full Pax Americana mode
>annex Iraq/Arabia
>annex South Korea
>annex part of Japan
>annex territory around every major shipping lane
>intervene in every crisis on the side of the eternal Anglo
>enforce democracy everywhere

>>154372642
EU4 extended timeline mod. You cant start at 116 A.D.

>>154378019
Fuck you

>>154378019
fag!

>>154378153
Don't think that works in HPM anymore, does it?

>>154378098
>giving anything to the round eyes
And Sakhalin represents my friendship with Japan, we're touching dicks :B

>>154378123
I'll just do that I suppose. For some reason Japan literally doesn't have a navy right now though, they're military score is 100% army and leaders.

>>154378303
Nope, you get negative immigrant modifier in war.

>>154378019
Not my mama

>>154378241
>>154378283
You're facebook tier retards.

>>154378303
You didn't mention HPM
USA is much stronger in vanilla

>>154378353
nah not really if you think about it lol i haven't even been to facebook. how do you know about it though? do you visit it on a regular basis? seems interesting, are you one of those facebook tier retards?

>>154378353
Nothing wrong with Facebook, bro

>>154378019
(Toi)

>>154378440
Nah that's you. I already said that. Try to keep up, this isn't hard.

Somebody please repost the Italy blobbing goals map.

>>154378019
See >>154378035

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>>154377923
All he's saying is that Italian is generally "one of the related cultures of the Italian peninsula", but you're using Italian as "one of the related cultures of the Italian peninsula that isn't Sicilian".

And the question is, if you're comfortable using Italian as a blanket term for several related cultural groups, why is Sicily separate? Are Sicilians actually further from Southern Italians than the Milanese are, or do you not believe in the existence of the Italian grouping at all and use it as a convenient shorthand for "those other fucks we're stuck in a country with"?

>>154378479
how come? i haven't been to facebook and you'd think that would be the main requirement for being a facebook tier retard. can't keep up with your logical fallacies man i'm trying real hard

>>154378597
>you'd think that would be the main requirement for being a facebook tier retard
I used to think this and then I read your other post. You've managed to pull off what was previously thought impossible. You are just that stupid.

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>>154377806
Nice, my son isnt imbecile, Allah is mercyful.

>>154378489
see >>154372357

>>154378801
Is not being an imbecile really an achievement?

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Okay I plopped Japan beside the British with Ningbo and took away Manchuria, they've gained about 100k more pops than before but got opium instead of rare metals.

>tfw Switzerland is still considered a more relevant world power than you

>>154378853
For a m*slim, yes it is considering the level of inbreeding that goes on.

>>154378851
Nope.

>>154378583
I'm just using the blanket term for convenience since I'm not in the mood to write out all of them individually, nor do I know all of them since Italy is pretty non-homogeneous. There is a general unionist Italian culture though which a small part of the Sicilian population subscribes to. I guess you could call them a hybrid if you really wanted to.

Sicilians are pretty different from the rest of Italy, the next most unique cultural group is probably the subhuman Sardinians but I don't really think of them as people.

I believe the current Italian State to be a creation of fiction. It's like a bad racist joke on 4chan or even reddit. That is precisely why I'm stateless now until there is a new state here which I'm comfortable with, which probably won't happen in my lifetime since I'm not a revolutionary retard. But that's better than being a unionist cunt.

>>154378924
But you're Irish, that's enough fresh blood for a few centuries of family fun.

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>>154378489

>>154379065
Why are these maps so comfy

>>154379065
Thank you.

>>154379065
Is there a British one?

>>154378019
memes

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Is /gsg/ watching BBC's adaptation of Victoria 2?

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>>154372096
Do you want me to pop you in the head m8?

>>154379298
Fuck she a qt

>>154378679
nah i'm positive you're just engaging in high level reality denial here bud, stay angry lmao

>>154378953
>Sicilians are pretty different from the rest of Italy, the next most unique cultural group is probably the subhuman Sardinians but I don't really think of them as people.
That's pure gold coming from a slav.

>>154378953
That's a consistent position. Not one I'd agree with, mostly because living somewhere where the government is technically allowed to expel you seems like a bad idea, but it's defensible.

Why don't Sardinians make the cut as people?

>>154379065
Anybody have the rest of these?

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>>154378801
Praise Allah.

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>>154379065
Have you got a Gross Britanniums one?

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>>154379547
>4 learning
>impaler
I think I understand how he can converts them so easily despite his shit learning.

>>154379654
I think the problem with doing a British one is that they already did it.

>>154379760
This desu

>>154379360
How is that relevant? Just imagine you were genetically a German and your family moved to the US a long time ago. What would you identify more with, Germany or the States? It doesn't matter as long as you are white, especially when transitioning from a higher purity of whiteness to a lower one.
>>154379395
They can't legally expel me since there is no legal procedure of expelling stateless people with prior citizenship in your country. And I don't have a double citizenship or anything like that.
I don't break any major or morally sound laws, and they can't even notice the black market operations anyway since I only deal with agorists and just people willing to do things under the table without giving the shitty unionist government a cut. And there are a lot of those people here.
>Why don't Sardinians make the cut as people?
I didn't quite get you there. Was that a poor attempt at a joke?

Is there a way to enable achievements for modded HOI4?

>there's an event chain that makes you literally immortal in vanilla ck2 now
so this... is the power of memes...

>>154379103
Because they merge historical plausibility, cultural proximity, imperialist ambitions and aesthetics in equal amounts.

>>154379863
Fuck, I just inherited a little bit of Sardinian retardation just by reading the word Sardinian. They aren't people because their culture is really shit compared to just about anyone in this region. They aren't clean at all and they eat larvae infested cheese. Also it seems like they don't even know to bathe.

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>>154379760
>Puppet Hanover
>Full Columbia claims
>Patagonia
>Afghanistan
>Siam
>Northern France
>Crete
You can always go Grosser. Make Rhodes proud.

>>154372917
>I've never read anything about Sicilian history
>I've never read about the events of Italian unification
>Therefore I will call Sicilians silly for not wanting to be a part of the clusterfuck that has been the modern Italian nation.
>I will also disregard every modern study reaffirming what history tells us about Greek/Punic/Norman etc... population migrations to Sicily.

Yes i'm mad because my ancestors had to leave their homeland because they were poorer then slaves do to the Norths fuckery.

>>154379997
>says the sicilian
Epic. I guess even the sardinians can find some niggers to consider inferior

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>>154380127
>Greek/Punic/Norman etc
tell us more about the etc Abdul

>>154379863
Is there anything that legally permits non-citizens to remain in the country without a visa?

Realistically they'd probably have to take you back as a citizen because the UN has a problem with statelessness, but I don't think you have any legal right to be in Italy without citizenship or residency.

And no, that wasn't a joke. You consider white people to be people despite whatever culture they have, because they can change it. You deny personhood to non-whites because you don't consider them capable of adapting to proper cultures. That's self-consistent.

But Sardinians are white, just with an (apparently, I don't know) shitty culture. They should still be people by virtue of their genetic ability to change culture, even if they aren't utilising it.

>>154380203
Berbers as well, which i'm not butt hurt about. Sicily actually had a very benevolent government under Fatimid/Berber rule. Although preferably it would have been better if Sicily remained with the Byzantines. Also to clarify, i'm a Sicilian-American anon, not the Sicilian in Sicily anon.

>>154380203
never lost the smug

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how do I fix this?

>>154380672
What was the point of going so far east into the steppes? Does anybody play out there?

>>154380672
Fix what? It doesn't look too bad yet, except for all the Norse in the UK.

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>>154380672
>>154380717
>>154380730
Sorry, wrong map...

>>154380135
Nice try lmao
I'm not a Sardinian animal know and I can consciously shift the focus points of my eyes didn't see your post.
>>154380161
I'm genetically white so I'm not sure who the niggers you are talking about are exactly. Perhaps you were mentioning your family? Well, I guess it's shitty being a monkey in a civilized country these days. I'm kinda sorry for what your slave ancestors had to go through though. They should have been just executed.
>>154380326
Not that I know off. But I'm not only a non-citizen, I'm also stateless. The process of expelling a citizen of a foreign country is pretty well tried and documented, but I don't know much about expelling a native from the country. I guess they would have to pass some kind of new laws and I doubt they would do that since there aren't a lot of stateless people in the world, let alone in Italy. If they'd take me in as a citizen I'd still renounce my citizenship through the same loopholes once again. I'm not going to be a part of this shitty Italian union anyway.

Sure, they are strictly speaking people. There's no doubting that, but their culture makes them more akin to animals. I guess it's comparable to a white German becoming a muslim. He looses human status and he can regain it later if he ever decides to renounce the muslim virus, his humanity would be slightly tainted though. Basically they are like animals with human potential. Most of them die like animals so it's fair to call their general culture an animal culture rather than a human one.

>>154380821
Guys what playlists do you guys listen to when playing? I've completely run out.

I've done slavic orchestra
spanish nationlist
sea shanties
internationale playlists
and even US civil war beats

What else you guys got?

>>154380821
>he thinks white people can't be niggers
You're really something my sicilian friend.

>>154381127
My last reply suggests otherwise.

>>154381256
He's probably never seen wiggers like we have in the states, I envy him.

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>>154380027
>Puppet Hanover
>Northern France

>>154380821
Looking at the UN rules, you're fine to stay in Italy as a stateless person unless you become an issue of public order or national security, so I guess if your region ever becomes an issue they have recourse to throw you all out.

>>154381304
Yeah those are quite funny to watch. I feel like I'm in a zoo when I watch youtube videos featuring those retards.

REMINDER

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=trBxPFLq__g

>>154381345
What would full retard Anglo imperialism look like?

EUROPE:
- Denmark and the northern Netherlands for Saxons, Angles and Jutes
- France from dynastic claims (all of France)
- Hannover
- Iceland

AMERICAS:
- Caribbean
- Eastern USA + Canada
- British and American Columbia
- French Louisiana (bundled with France)
- Guyana
- Central America between Belize and Mosquito Coast
- Patagonia

ASIA:
- Asia

AFRICA:
- Africa

OCEANIA:
- Oceania

Can't think of much more than that.

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>>154381402
Where would they throw out former Italian citizens though? I guess they could kick out the people with dual or prior citizenship in any other country. But I don't see much they could do with stateless people in that regard.

Or do you mean they'll just throw the secessionists in jail? Yeah, I could see that happening easily. Which is why I don't really want Sicily seceding from the union officially if NATO and the UN are still intact. Hurting the Italian economy by tax evasion and other shit is fine by me.

Btw this is what Sardinian subhumans literally eat. I doubt anyone could call them people after witnessing this.
>>154381428
That's great. I'm not genetically related to Sicilians in any way though. Nice try.
kek

A modern day gsg would be super boring

>>154371724
>>154371823
not so based after all eh?

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>>154377798
You still here? All you need to do is directly hold a city (I used the one in Acre) and the right click menu should give you the option to Settle as Republic.

And yes, before you settle down as ANYTHING you want to revoke every single title held by a mudslime, cities, baronies, temples, everything. Execute them if you want, you take no penalty for that as a nomad. It's worth the year or two of rebellion wars and demesne overload. You can hand them out again after settling down.

>>154381428
your ancestors are niggers
i don't know why this line makes my laugh so hard lmao

>>154382091
I just want to play a grand strategy as Namibia desu

>>154382175
>>154376735
I guess I should've linked to this one instead.

why does my heir change so much as a norse

the characters arent dying

>>154382091
>A modern day gsg would be super boring
It depends...

>>154382303
The AI behind heir pick is.. complicated, w/o writing a wall of text, two most likely scenarios are traits changing (Craven<->Brave can swing votes easily), and age (25<45 seem to have higher value).

>>154382303
What's your succession type? If it's Elective Gavelkind then get used to that.

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>>154382175
I'm honestly amazed that the local muslims haven't Jihaded me to oblivion, too.

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>>154382479
agnatic elective gavelkind

i dont have an option to change it

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>want to roleplay Óðinn
>get all traits and stats
>One-eyed didn't gave me eye-patch
Fuck.

>>154382636
How's caliph doing? Also if you are playing CK2/plus Requirement for GHW to fire are somewhat different than vanila.

>>154382175
Yeah, thanks, I was just unsure of how to proceed. I'll enjoy executing the Mudshits.
How hard will I get crusaded/jihaded? After I settle my cavalry will start to slowly die in any wars I fight and having 6k cavalry the only reason I was able to defeat a 16k stack

>>154383195
As a proud king of the Jews, The lord of All doge, I'd advice getting a lot of Military organisation tech asap to get a fuck off sized retinue pair it with relevant tech to make that retinue strong, and ally the Emprah (who can't crusade/jihad himself) by any and all means possible.

>>154383493
Unfortunately I was a dumbass and put a few points into cavalry and siege equipment before I realised how fucking stupid and that I'd need military organisation for when I settle.

>>154383954
Just stick a 20+ spymaster into Byzantium to study tech. It ramps quickly.

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>>154372096

>>154382860
Vanilla.
>>154383195
I managed to avoid any jihads or crusades so far, somehow. But I've also had my chancellor permanently parked at Abbasid HQ sucking the caliph's dick.

>>154379065
Ý

Ck plus or menethmod?

Is CK2+ up for Reapers due yet?
Links?

>>154372137
What would a Nazi Germany have as colonies?

Excluding lebensraum

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what did he mean by this?

>>154384925
They wanted their historical African colonies back. So Cameroon, Togo, Tanzania, Namibia.

>>154384925
Nothing really, Hitler thought colonies were the easy way out and ultimately would fail. Hence why lebensraum was all they wanted. Presumably they'd appoint client states if they really need resource extraction. That's just speculation however.

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also if you are wondering why German panzers are in Ethiopia, I drove them there after finishing Russia in early 44, through Iran to Iraq in summer 44, then luring out shitton of Allies into defending Levant and encircling them like the retards they are there and then driving into Egypt and so forth.

August 1945 German Panzers meet Japanese forces in the middle of India

I don't know why I keep playing, maybe I will try to invade UK in 46, and US in 47 until I bore out. Problem is Yanks have gigantic carrier doomstacks, meaning I have to rush my own stacks before sailing away from safe Baltic harbours.

>>154385285
>bloat ocket

>>154385265
It also seems they were willing to settle for less then that even. Once of the peace offers sent to the British promised the continued existence of a Polish nation. So they probably would have taken danzig and some extra clay but poles would still have something.

Is Hitlermod dead?

>>154376527
>these religions
What mod is this? CK2+?

>>154385567
It's called ancient religions, CK2+ has it inbuild as one of the advanced start options.

>>154385543
Maybe the realisation that Argentina isnt white was too much for him.

>>154385543
Deader than the Afrika Korps m8

I lovd going to /r/paradoxplaza to piss off commies and paradrones.

>I pirated the game because under Capitalism I havethe right to try before buying.

>>154386061
As I communist I support piracy and pirate every game because every human being is entitled to entertainment

>>154385543
It was obviously nothing from the start.

Its like people thinking new Ultima would be a thing on Kickstarter.

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just fuck off with the nonsense already. I'm 3 years away from imperial administration and you're not going to fuck this up for me.

There should be some very few Yankee, Brazilian and Platinean jew pops spread in the US, Brazil and Argentina desu
Jews who went to the New World assimilated, but they didn't convert to christianity.

>>154384338
Do I need to go through the process of revoking every city and mosque from my Muslim vassals? I've already revoked all the counties as well as baronies.

>>154386459
>25th

>>154385646
Thanks lad, so I guess I'll need to download CK2+ in order to have all character having meme religion. A shame HIP doesn't have that.

>>154386178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcXNXKtu8z4

How does one succeed in Vicky 2

I always reach 6th place maximum and then start to decline because all my neighbours start to somehow get more troops than myself and capitalists decide to make retarded choices.

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Finally someone who looks like a proper descendant of Ragnarr and Ivar the boneless. Hopefully the imbecile trait will stay out of my family now.

>>154386635
I would, and did. There's no real reason not to, since you don't take tyranny penalties for it.

>>154387008
build liquor factories

>>154387008
Encourage bureaucrats
Build liquor factories

>>154387008
encourage bureaucrats

What's the "babby's first playthrough" option for EU4, like CK2's 1066 Ireland start?
Portugal or Castille? And should I shoot for colonization or other ideas?

>>154387034
t. Usman Muhammad Khan

>>154387008
With whom did you play?

>>154387308
Kojak & the crew

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Help

>>154387034
Who's the guy on the left?

>>154387308
Sardinia Piedmont. Formed Italy and became powerful as fuck. Made a gigantic army. But by the mid 1880s Austria Hungary already recovered from Secondary Power and had an army way larger than myself, was allied with France and proceeded to fuck my shit up.

>>154387448
Your typical paki

>>154387432
>769

Can a pirated copy of CK2 play multiplayer with a legit copy?

>>154387471
How peculiar.
Also you are supposed to ally yourself with Germany and make sure Austria releases Hungry.

>>154387752
Are you honestly retarded?

>>154387616
What?

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>>154387616
There's going to be border gore regardless of start date, who cares.

>>154387801
Huh, aight, I'm just pretty new and getting used to Vicky 2. Been a long time since I played GS, and it was EU3.

>>154387256
Portugal

Or you could try France since they are like Germany in Vicky2 aka you can't ruin your game no matter how hard you fuck up

>>154387925
If you form Italy with Papal State you get a special flag mate.
Also git HPM as usual.

>>154387034
Very true, pakis are all caucasian and have white dna because of the aryan migrations and later Alexander's conquest which brought thousands of white men to the region while the majority of indians are mainly Australoid niggers and the only places where you can find humans in India are near the border with Pakistan
Sikhs are bro tier though

I quite like Victoria 2, but I have a problem with it. Why is it that you can't put two different soldier pops in a single brigade? It doesn't really make much sense.

Some times I have 2-3 pops with the same culture and same religion in the same province that have around 2000 soldiers each, so I can't actually raise any troops there because they don't have the 3000 minimum.

Can it be modded in to just count a single province's total number of soldiers instead of individual pops?

>>154387752
A game can't play itself

>>154388060
Ethnic segregation you filthy race mixer

>>154388060
no

>>154387996
I'm playing with HPM, tho. Really nice mod. Might try to go for a Papal States game next.

>>154388038
Sikhs lived mainly in Pakistan and only after the Raj's partition happened they migrated to India because they thought they'd be treated better there.

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Should I convert to Zoroastrianism or stay Shia?

As you might see I'm technically the top dog in Persia, the Emperor only having like 2 counties and a couple of vassals other than me. I'm biding my time to overthrow him, I wanna draw out this campaign to convert it eventually.

>>154388207
Dont forget, friendly relations with GP means they can invervene in a war for non-GP (like Italian minors)

>>154388874
What mod ?

>>154389016
CK2+

anyone have a link to the latest HIP

>>154388175
>Same province
>Same culture
>Same religion
What?

>>154389150
Just look into archive

>no gold rush events
>no mormon exodus events

fuck you HPM

>>154389465
troß

>>154389016
Ck2+ Event chain for Low MA rulers with scholarship focus.

>>154389465
But there is nigga

>>154387121
One more question, should I cuture convert my son to Ashkenazi and wait for him to inherit or should I just press the button now and make my heir Ashkenazi later? This is pretty much entirely flavour, I guess. Will buildings stay as the ugly tents and shit if I found the republic as Khazar and then shift to Ashkenazi? I don't know if you even started as Khazaria or if you did some other meme method.

>>154389967
yeah
but nobody fucking emigrates to california because its not a state

>>154390092
That is another problem, they not existing is something else

What happened to all the DLC? Can i get it from somewhere else now