/mbgg/ - Mobage General #602

>>154353441
All the bunny girls are mediocre at best except Anko.

>Playing for esports

First for nothing remotely playable today.

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Keep this Mamuru safe for me please.

>>154353715
>anko
>A rank
you mean kokomi at SS rank?

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>>154352849
I know, right?
She should totally be flat.

>>154353715
I'm not even trying to be esports. I just want to maximize my chances of getting bunnies

shadowverse arena is literally charge trading with evolve until someone is forced to play into a 6/1 minion

>go first
>not royal
>lose
When are they gonna stop fucking balancing the game around this class?

>>154353874
The only one useful to me is Anko because she is the strongest stat stick in the set.

So what's the rate on legendary cards in Shadowverse? Because I've gotten 8 in my first 25 packs and I'm just wondering if I should watch out for getting robbed tomorrow or something

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>>154354121
The only one useful to me is Anko because I'm an Ankofag and wanted to put her in a bunny suit.

>>154354159
That's about right. Take a screenshot and post it, there's still a chance everything you got is shit.

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>>154354250

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>>154354221
Don't lie to me, you just want to slap her ass.

>>154354304
You only pulled 6 of those, Gabriel and Prince are gifts, also Atomy is bad but the rest are fantastic

>>154354159
1.5% for legendary, 6% for gold, it tells you in the details page which is on the page you buy packs.

Realistically, since every pack is 8 cards, there's about an 11% chance per pack to get at least one legendary and about 46% chance for at least 1 gold or legendary.

Past that, there's like an 8% individual chance I think for any particular card you get to be animated. As well as a super rare chance of your entire pack being animated.

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>>154354315
I mean, I can't say I'm opposed to it.

>>154354304
Good enough. Start crafting the good dragon craft silvers and just play mid range.

Dust atomy

>>154354356
>>154354493
What makes Atomy bad?

>>154354558
He doesn't do anything other than wipe your board.

A single big minion just isn't worth anything, if you don't drop him on like turn 3 or 4 he's just worthless

>>154354558
I wouldn't say dust him since he's cool as shit for a collection, but he's an 8/8 body with no other effect. Yes you can get him out really early due to his effect but he dies really easily to removal and he wipes your field to get out. It's typically better to just run a better card in his place and keep field presence.

>>154354558
Atomy is basically a gimmick that you have to build your deck around to be useful.

It's possible to get him out on turn 2, but such an opening is rare even with a deck built for it and you sacrifice your whole board for something that will probably get removed by your opponent with 1 card before it can do anything generally.

However I'd refrain from dusting him for now as Ceridwin is going to become a thing when the new pack drops.

If Shadowcraft gets more board swarm cards then Atomy could become pretty amazing.

>playing conservatively to get the most possible out of my dosh and dust
>have a nice pile of rupees to buy packs from the new expansion with
>can't pull any fucking legendaries though
>buy a 10-pack out of frustration
>0 legendaries, 5 golds

Just put me out of my fucking misery, Senpai.

Nothing compares to the feeling of playing Prince of Darkness. Nothing.

>>154355118
>10 point do nothing

>>154354792
Wiping your board isn't always a bad thing. I'd hardly feel bad about killing a Hell Unleasher, Skeleton, Bellringer, and Widow to summon an 8/8.

>>154355118
Beating all 10 Apocalypse cards.

>>154355084
Never binge draw when your luck seems bad.

With how RNGs work, that's only asking for trouble.

Generally, near all RNGs are seeded in some sort of time-based function and you end up getting similar numbers in short periods of time.

This may just be paranoia and anecdotal experience, but I've only been served well by abiding by this idea.

>>154355312
The problem is that I draw cards slowly over a long period, so "bad luck for 20 packs" for me is like 2 weeks of playing.

>>154355186
The soonest you could do that is turn 5 though, and why would all 4 of those be alive on turn 5? The enemy would have to be running nothing.
Then he dies to removal.
It's better to keep those guys alive because that forces the enemy to kill them. An evolved Hell's Unleasher is actually very horrifying since it's a 3/3 that if it dies turns into a 4/4. It's doing work but the enemy often still wants to ignore it.

>>154354105
When people stop playing purgatory and Satan I'll play the deck I always wanted to, but until then I'm going to rush your ass. You asked for this, control shitter

>>154355312
If nearby seeds will consistently produce nearby end results, then it's a pretty shitty RNG function.

Not that spreading your rolls out hurts anything. RNG aside, it gives you time to think about whether you want to spend your game currency yet after all.

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>3:55

>>154355718
You're not getting the point here, I play control Blood, you royal shitters are my easiest match up. The fucking problem is going first against the fucking combo shitters and getting evolved spammed. The only way to beat them if I don't get a fast start, is evolve spamming lykos and generals/alucards for extra damage.

What I meant by balancing around royal is that literally only royal benefits from going first in this meta, everyone else would rather evolve spam. Don't even get me started on arena, if you go first, you might as well concede.

>>154356119
You know it's going to get worse with the expansion gimmick being evolves.

>>154356119
Actually all aggro decks benefit from going first, that's just how having more than one decent 1 drop goes

>>154356723
Yes, and what other viable none aggro decks are out there? Even Shadow doesn't mind going second, since it only has 1 good 1 drop, because a burial 1 turn earlier isn't worth an evolve orb.

2 cards and an extra evolve orb for bullshit like Merlin, Dragon Warriors, Cudgels and just generally an extra removal that will buy them 1 more turn, is infinitely more valuable to every other meta deck. They went overboard with balancing first turn, an extra evolve orb and evolving first is already too much, the extra card is just bullshit.

>>154356723
Hell, blood has 2 or 3 decent one drops, you can run them all if you want to. If you decide 3 satans are better than 3 curse brand vampires, then you accept the chance that you don't get to play a one drop. There is nothing stopping you from trying to get that tempo you crave.

>>154356912
If they decide that they swung too far back they might give 3 evolve points to both. But until we find out that it's 60% for one way or worse, you can't say for sure.

>>154356912
Before they added the 2 cards to the player going second, the winrates were about 60% in favor of the player going first regardless of class.

The ability to evolve first with three evolve points was there from the beginning yet they found that players going second needed the help in the form of the two additional cards. If anything your irritation might be in the two extra cards letting them draw more answers at the beginning.

cheapest competitive shadowverse deck? I just started

>>154356912
What other viable aggro decks other than royal I meant.

>>154356952
>Curse brand
At least use a good example. I already have 6 1 drops, 3x ambling and 3x flowerbed, and it's not enough. The problem isn't my lack of tempo, it's the stabilization evolving first provides. None of my damage relies on tempo, it's all direct damage and storms. But, being forced to respond to a fucking evolved Merlin instead of continuing to put on pressure, completely allows them to take control of the game.

Playing aggro blood is a meme, the deck doesn't do that much better against slow decks, and gets destroyed by royal. A control blood with a lot of early game does fine if you don't get fucked by both the draws and the turn order, as often is the case my last few games.

>>154355118
idk, outvaluing his satan and then throwing yours out when you already had lethal on board is pretty cool.

>>154357281
Try a poverty aggro sword

>>154357292
Forest and shadow work
Well, shadow is proven due to the knowledge back when that one guy posted top decks, I'm still working on my version of forest with passable results.

Also make sure you aren't trading a card and an evolve point to kill an unevolved follower unless you really have to. You could be making inefficient trades without realizing it.

>>154357281
Sword or dragon IMO. Blood is also ok

>>154357196
What I don't get is, what's the point of going first if you give the second player first evolution? The 1 orb is fucking wasted on turn 5, since you're almost always are going to evolve a 4 orb over a 5 orb follower.

Let them have first evolution and the extra draw, just take away the fucking orb.

>>154357547
I'm actually not trading at all against any class unless I'm under 8, or against royal. Literally the only minion I trade with is an evolved Lykos since it already dealt damage.

>>154357682
Wait, what's your deck list? That doesn't seem very control to me. I find that when I play blood letting the opponent build board is a step closer to being beaten from 11 hp and tend to rely on dire bond to get my vengeance

>>154357591
Ideally, it would be so they can take the field back from having to react to the player who goes first for the first 4 turns.

If the player who goes first gets to evolve first, most decks would be able to run away with the game without looking back. Imagine a swordcraft player who goes first and gets to evolve Floral Fencer on their 4th turn to further pad their board before you could contest it seriously.

That being said, I sympathize with slow decks going first, since the second player is under no pressure, they don't have to panic evolve to start contesting the board. This provides a huge advantage since the first player finds themselves having to react to the second player now, and the second player has the extra evolve orb to play with.

It's hard to find a balance that works for everyone since before it was the first player dominating, only Cygames themselves has the stats now so who knows if it's actually unbalanced. I fully agree with you on Take Two though, without the assurance that you'll draft a good early game, going first is suicide.

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>>154357953
>Build board
Name one deck other than sword or shadow that build board. Rune and forest play soltaire for 90% of the game, dragon drops taunts and oracles, haven drops amulets and maybe early game taunts. You're 100% safe to ignore the board against every class that isn't sword or shadow, even shadow can be ignored til turn 5 or so.

This is my early game, dropped 1 flowerbed.

>>154358237
I'm fully aware of that, which is why I complained about sword being the focal point of balance in this game in my initial post.

>>154358376
Dark General is trash, Lykos is trash and flowerbed is trash.

>>154358639
Slow Blood doesn't work anymore, this isn't beta. You can play your greedy wards and spells all you want, you're never beating D.Shift, PtP, or turn 6 Satan dragons with the 2 months old netdeck Blood that has 0 early game other than wolves and bats. Even full on aggro blood is better than the shit you people run which I'm assuming is this list https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.6.5_pFC.5_pFC.5_pFC.63dOg.63dOg.63dOg.5_pzw.5_p-4.5_p-4.63e74.63e74.63dPc.63dPc.63ilo.63ilo.63ilo.5_rhS.5_rhS.63iH0.63iH0.5_p-E.63iGs.63iGs.63iGs.63i_Q.63i_Q.63kio.63kio.5_sQA.5_sQA.63fqw.63fqw.63fqw.61SDy.63i_a.63i_a.63i_a.63iHA.63iHA.63iHA

>>154358893
Give us better blood lists anon

Save bloodcraft and save us

>>154358893
I don't run blood, those are just cards that let me know I'm fighting a shitter. Do what you do, I'm just letting you know I've never lost to anyone who's run any of those cards except in arena.

do people really think going second is better? Being able to dictate trades for the first few turns is huge

>>154356119
I play Aggro Shadow and heavily prefer going first.

The advantage of going 1st isn't just the headstart, it's also the fact you access your higher mana cards before the opponent every turn of the game. More specifically you gain an advantage in mana equal to turn amount.

When I get my first turn, I am 1 mana and a turn ahead of my opponent. When the opponent however gets their turn, they merely equalize, whether it be their 1st, 5th, or any turn. The player going first however is whatever turn they are on mana ahead plus the actual turn of action. So on their 5th turn, they're 5 mana ahead and an extra turn of action.

As turns become more and more impactful due to the increased mana that can be used, this gives the player going 1st a substantial advantage. It also allows me to precede actions that could be life saving to the other player. If I go first, I can play Cursed Soldier before a Blood player can play Alucard for example.

The reason why the 1st turn is advantageous in nearly every game is due to the fact turns are generally equal, but somebody has to go first.

>>154359310
>The reason why the 1st turn is advantageous in nearly every game is due to the fact turns are generally equal, but somebody has to go first.
Not in a fucking game that has 3 free hastes and +2/+2.

>>154356119
>playing Lykos
Jesus fucking christ, no wonder you lose to your "best" matchup

>>154356912
It doesn't matter how many good 1-drops you have, going first is powerful because for every single turn prior to 11 you get to answer the opponent's play with one that's 1 mana better.

>>154359529
>It doesn't matter how many good 1-drops you have, going first is powerful because for every single turn prior to 11 you get to answer the opponent's play with one that's 1 mana better.
So now we're gonna pretend that the game lasts that long, and that ramp doesn't exist?

>>154359596
>So now we're gonna pretend that the game lasts that long
>what is Satan

>and that ramp doesn't exist?
You're still playing 1 mana better than you would have otherwise. If you're going first and your opponent ramps you're now just playing second. If you're going second and your opponent ramps you're now playing your 3-drop on curve into the opponent's 4-drop.

>>154359478
There's only a total difference of 1 evolve orb and turns with evolve orbs are equal to other turns with evolve orbs.

The turns scale due to mana and evolved orbs, but generally remain equal for every corresponding turn. Which is why being able to use the evolve orb first is a substantial advantage as well and why they give it to the second player in an attempt at balance.

Which wasn't enough so they gave the second player an extra card too.

>>154359596
Don't forget perfect draws. No one ever misses a drop.

So frustrating making a mistake in scooter spirits. Usually at the same part too. If I didn't suck dicks I could maybe get enough points for the 2nd gacha ticket

>try running poverrty sword
>keep losing to satan and purgatory decks in d fucking 2
>switch to poverty blood
>win streaks
I don't understand

>>154359830
Having more mana objectively means you have more play options available to you at every point in the game.

>>154359890
Reach, sword lacks it while Blood and Shadow have it in droves.

Being able to deal the final points of damage to an enemy behind wards helps massively.

>>154359960
What is the current tier list?

I seem to lose pretty badly to Dragon though.

>>154360216
Dragon is busted and has almost no bad match ups. They can drop satan faster than forest/rune can drop ptp/shift. Honestly, all dragon needs is a good neutral heal and it become tier 0.

>>154360216
Sword 1st
PtP Forest 2nd
Dragon 3rd

>>154360216
https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/25903

Here's the Japanese list of decks with scores by them.

Generally though, there's no single best deck as certain crafts as well as playstyles counter others.

I have no trouble with all these Purgatory and Satan ramp decks due to playing Aggro Shadow, but I still have a shaky matchup with Haven due to their banishes which directly counter a lot of Shadow's best cards.

>>154360386
Why does Satan exist? I don't understand how the devs think cards like that are okay

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>>154360657
We've come full circle folks, right back to the Satan complaints.

>>154360657
Why does this post exist? I don't understand how people can think statements like "I don't understand how X think Y like that are okay" like that are okay.

>>154360657
It takes their entire turn to play it and it does nothing, how do you lose to a card like that?

>>154360896
Because not everyone is a complete shit and will have an empty field by the time they play Satan

>>154360896
Because he's shit. That's why he's in this thread. This thread is the gathering place of all the shittiest nerds that play Shadowverse because they're so fucking shit they can't go anywhere else and if they actually made their own thread they'd just get called out because they're so fucking shit so they need to hide inside mbgg like the parasites they are.

>>154360896
>Does nothing
>6/6 drop on turn 6~7

So now that's been out for a little bit, is the new SAO game worth picking up?

>>154360994
I don't understand why SV doesn't have it's own general yet. Has anyone tried to make one and had it die horribly?

How do you deal with 4th turn evolve floral fencer as fairycraft.

>just started SV today
>unpacked all the shit to make Ptp forest
Is there a better feeling

>>154361351
Yes. Masturbating to all the cute cards.

>>154361173

>shadowverse should split!
>but bhgs is A-okay

Never gonna understand split shitposters

>>154361267
Turn 5 homecoming works. Otherwise just get PtP online

>>154361527
>Remember to REPORT and IGNORE shitposters instead of giving them the attention they want and helping them shit up the thread.

One day people will follow this instead of replying to retards that want to kill a general that has threads that last 3 whole days

How is HeavenxInferno?

>>154360657
>>154360825
Satan itself really isnt the problem. A turn 10 6/6 with no immediate effect is suicide in a lot of situations, especially in control v. control if you pop it too early

its satan hitting the board before turn 10 that is the problem

>first match of ranked
>he also has 0points
>I'm using half basic cards
>he's playing a card for cards tier 1 deck
[wake me up]

>>154361665
Oh man, building a forest deck is quite expensive.

>>154362365
If you did all the solo missions, the 3 elite challenges, and all free arena tickets, you can pretty much build any tier 1 deck, short of a few legendaries, unless you lucked out on the packs.

>>154362604
>the 3 elite challenges
how did you do these, I tried it then quit when they started dropping legendaries

>>154362445
yeah, i think its about as a bad as some control decks

I dont have the deck, but the golds alone are like
2-3x homecoming
3x altered fate
3x Ptp
x3 Rhinoroach

someone correct me if I am wrong

>Playing Fairy Heroes
>new gasha with new 5*
>Okay, but wait a minute...
>New gasha ONLY has that 5* in the draw pool, no other 5*s
>The older gasha has the other 2 5*s (there are only 3 5*s in the game currently)
So if you want the new 5* you have to gimp yourself with the neutered gasha
Magicboxxxxxxxx

>>154362793
Where are you from and please go back there.

Also, such practices are heavily more preferable to standard gachas which just shove everything in together.

>budget aggro swordcraft doesn't run cyclone soldier
?

>>154364062
Generally, most opponents are able to drop a 1 mana follower that's usually 1/2 or 1/1.

When Sword players drop Cyclone instead of Fervid or Lancer, the opponent will ping their 1 drop into the Cyclone instead of Sword's Quickblader or Vanguard.

To that end, Fervid Soldier is near totally superior since pretty much every damn Sword tries to run Fencer and Pompous Princess on curve so she's effectively 3/2.

>>154364062
2 for a 3/1
Its kinda crap.
The 2/2 warder or the 2 1/1 card, or Fervid are better to play.

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Is this going to be another permanent gacha?

>>154365325
>text on bottom
Yeah, nah.

>>154362026
HeavenXInferno is pretty much an alternative Valkyrie profile that eats up your battery.
Square Enix also has their own Valkyrie Profile mobage, just so you know.

>>154365325
Yes. Top left says "New Additional Gacha Planned"
I'll roll when I'm not worried about birthdays coming up, since there are no guarantees.
Kinda worried how they'll handle weapons.

I'm not sure if I should be glad they're separate instead of added to Flora pool. I guess the no guarantee part is annoying and there's a high risk of Kanon.

>>154365436
The dates are for the ticket purchase. Below that is the familiar line that's plagued every single gacha since Halloween last year.

We'll find out if there's a time limit on the gacha when the news post goes up, but "Limited" isn't anywhere on the post.

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>Scroll through thread
>80% of posts are shadowverse again
I d-don't want to be that shitter but..! Nevermind.

Let's discuss something: What are some less popular mobages you played before and what was wrong with them in your opinion? We all know there are hundreds of games out there which have good visuals but somehow fuckup on the fundamental levels to be enjoyable.

One of the examples for me is Valkyrie Connect. I'm pretty okay with autobattle games as long as animations are good, there's a variety in deck-building and plenty of waifus. But what I hate is the clusterfuck of 'everyone attacks in realtime'. That's why I dropped Dragon something(that one which tries to copy Kamitani's artstyle). I just cannot enjoy what's going on the screen. I mean why bother going through all these awesome animations and character models if you can only witness them fully when there are less than 4 characters on the screen?

>>154366880
I've dropped quite a few promising mobage due to shitty UIs. Common problems include
>too many button presses to get to a frequently-accessed screen
>loading screens for menus
>fancy menus with tons of animation but too little information

>>154361168
Its okay.

>>154361168
Not a huge fan of SAO, though watched both seasons and the game is pretty cool in my opinion. At least it always makes me want to return and play a few stages. Battle system is dynamic and impactful.
No stamina system also helps a bit.

>>154366880

>Dragon poker

Too grindy, turns took forever

>Million arthur 2

Felt like i was playing a shitty FSN ripoff, it even had notlancer

>>154367502
That's not the first time I've seen people here complain about UI but dropping a game because of it? Is tolerating an interface in a game you might like such a big problem?

I understand dropping a mobage because it takes too long to load the actual gameplay and isn't optimized in one way or another involing UI though. But that's it.

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>>154366880
Muramasa Miyabi
Overall nice designs if you like a lewd all-girl rendition of feudal Japan.

However, it took forever to use stamina. Maxed out at 5 and regens at one per 30 minutes, and it usually took that 30 minutes to use it all up.
Had typical Japanese point grind events, but the 5~6 runs amounted to just about nothing.
Then, not only did you need a dupe from gacha for evolutions, but you also needed to pray to rng for drops from minigames, with maps to get to the minigames were already rare drops in fights. Couldn't evolve many event units simply because the minigames always gave junk instead of evo mats.
They added an item to replace the dupe requirement this summer, but you either needed to rank high in events or exchange a multitude of units.
Getting currency was slow and rates were ass and the high rarity units from the free gacha were weak and useless. Oh, and they added an additional rarity this summer too, so it's not likely doing well.
Enemy stats got to the point that multi-hit units only helped for activating full party attacks, but would do no damage otherwise.
And for how simple the graphics were, it ran like ass.

Any new games with nip label like SV and VF?

>>154362604
What are elite challenges?

>>154368103
When you go to AI matches, when you pick Erika, Rowen, or Luna, there'll be an option to set the difficulty to elite. Beat them for 200 Gs.

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Is Dream Girlfriend any fun to play?

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R8 my ptp cancer list

>>154368481
Just get real girlfriend :^)

Sorry but I'm new and was wondering. Are there any good Mobage that has no time limits? Most mobage are behind time limits where you have to wait for your energy/stamina/building/etc to build up over time so you can't play anymore. Is there any mobage out there that lets you play all day everyday?

>>154368658
Is the purgatory amulet a persistent effect?

>>154368720
BGHS

>>154368754
Yes.

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What

>>154368720
Potion Maker

>>154368720
Battle Girl High School
Dragon Project
Girmm Notes
Monster Hunter Explore
Shironeko Project
Shironeko Tennis
Shadowverse
Sword Art Online: Memory Defrag

>>154369171
I tried this and it was very bad. Why are you all recommending a bad game?

I really want to play swordcraft because I like knights and the tribe has a lot of synergy between minions and I think that's cool, but I am also a special snowflake and I heard that the ladder is flooded with swordcraft, what do I do?

>>154369814
Play a weird deck that doesn't win games. There's lots of room to be a special snowflake while playing your favorite class.

I suggest Purgatory Swordcraft.

>>154369814
Flooded is an understatement. Dragon and Royal are THE designated shitter classes, AND they're top tier in the meta. So from the bottom of the ladder to the very top 50% of your opponents minimum are going to be those 2.

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u mad?

>>154370026
That card is bad.

>>154370026
GOBLIN'S FEELIN' HUNGRY!

>>154370026
too much health needs nerf

How do I win one game as Runecraft? This isn't worth 20 rupies

>>154370262
Kinda. Why is a goblin stronger than a knight? Shitty humans.

>>154370570
Play dim shift, purg, or hope for good earth rite draws.

Also, its like asking how to win as forest when you don't have purg, dancer, or roach.

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I hope this would bring enough exposure to the original series that DMM make at least a true remake of the old games. I hope.

>>154370794
>tfw i have neother of those cards
It's suffering.

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>game so old/ded that servers literally go down for days at a time with no real response...

god damn it I just want to play something lewd while watching fighting games this wkend

>>154367756
The UI is a interface between you and the game's mechanics. If that layer is crap then everything you experience is through a filter of bad decisions. Every mobage has a bunch of administrative stuff you have to do regularly, and a bad UI just slows it all down when you have to wade through it. I don't need to sit through a fancy animation filled with panels sliding around and particle effects everywhere when I'm just trying to look at a character's stats. Nor do I want to have to sit through it again when I go from that screen to a detailed view of the same character's stats. Nor should I have to sit through a load screen to get to these things, no matter how quick a load screen it is.

And if you have to take more than 3 button presses to get to a frequently-used function from the main menu, you fucked up designing your UI.

>>154370937
That looks pretty lewd, what gaem?

Why the fuck does Vampy have a tail?

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>>154371029
montowers2, its not even on lifesupport though anymore but its a thing when its up, but yeah it didn't fuck around with the art.

Like this is a uncommon (second lowest rarity) basic bitch

So why is forestcraft regulated in such a way when you can evolve a fairy for free then you can't evolve another unit with a remaining evolve point?

>>154371082
Vampire used to have werewolf powers

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>>154370590
Generic no color knights are the weakest of knights.

The White Knight, one of the lamest of all knights however is capable of slaying generic dragons(5/5) with his 6/6 stats.

Who knows how powerful actual knights worth a shit will be.

>>154371119
How p2w/currency heavy is this shit? Is it also another bait and switch like that monster league shit? It promised monster girls, when the entire rosters of 100 or so barely has like 5 monster girls.

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>>154371676
its very high on lewd, quite low on monster girls in the way I think most people mean by monster girls but there are a few.

its not p2w, you gather up the premium currency at a decent clip as long as you NEVER EVER GATCHA with them once you have 2-3 unique from random luck.

Def something someone could whale and raids are a competition between the entire playerbase that you need to hit like top 5% for but desu the raid monsters aren't even the toppest tier.

I'd take a picture of some of the more monster girl girls but.... the game is down for going on 3 days lol

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translation of a new card

>>154372475
Yeah, let's fucking buff Merlin even more. Draw my whole deck by turn 6? Sounds balanced to me!

>>154372475
>tfw been playing Eternal for a few days
All these cards seems so fucking boring

>>154372475
I have a feeling going second with and extra evolve point is really going to get out of hand

>>154372524
That's Hearthstone clones for you. Boring cards as far as the eye can see.

>>154372592
It's ridiculous, extra draw, extra orb, evolve first, and the evolve effects keep getting stronger and stronger, and the meta decks keep getting more and more draw dependent. Almost all decks want to evolve their 4 orb plays first thin, so being able to evolve first on 4 is perfect for the second player, whereas the first has to sacrifice their first advantage on turn 5 since most 5 drops don't give you shit for evolving.

If they don't play to change the first/second balance, they need to make 5 play orbs cards with good evolve effects.

>>154371946
So what's the status on this? Is it rip? Did the devs not even bother coming up with an excuse for why its down? This is why I can never be a whale in these games, they can just pack up shop overnight without a word.

Anyone has shironeko acc with 4 charlotte in it?
Want to trade it?

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>>154372893
They are.

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>>154372980

2 days ago they said they were taking the servers down to fix something.

The last thing they said was literally:
>We’ve run into difficulties to fix all these DISASTER. Now, we are doing our best for fix these problems but it will take more time to get the system into perfect condition. Please enjoy Montowers1, We gonna fix Montowers2 ASAP. Thank you.

That was 20 hours ago, so who knows. I suspect it will be back but I'm not holding out hope for them to hook me up with a ton of free shit like they should

>>154373057
That guy just complained that 5 doesn't have any good evolve targets. This is secretly a buff to going first, hah.

>>154373181
How's montower 1, is it dated?

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>>154373584
never even played it, i think its a SP/offline game? I didn't even think it was still avail for download desu

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>>154373905
oh fuck that image size, srry thread

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>take 99.1 Luck Camellia to Spinetrich to maybe max her out along the way
>close to 3 stamina bars later she's still at 99.1
Damn, Luck gain on 8 stamina stages really is almost non-existant compared to 20+ ones.

On that note, today's "art stream" was more of a small content stream apparently:
http://terrabattleforum.com/threads/broad-of-the-mist-21.11556/

- Bahl^ is confirmed for 4.3, along Shaplar, Amerpact and Raprow. Oddly enough, without showing her art, neither updating nor confirming the one we've seen before.
- Supposedly she'll get a 3-row-Gigasword and her Omicron-otomo does a flat 2000 damage, like Odin's Valhalla. The latter doesn't sound like it'll synergize well with her role as a Trinity member and find much use, but we'll see.
- Lucia Recoded Descent was confirmed by showing one of its gimmicks: To bait people into actually giving a fuck, it'll feature randomly spawning "old orblings", whose defeat will guarantee full-party luck-boosts. Not sure if they detailed if it's just guaranteeing the 0.1-0.3 boost at the end or if it's a separate, fixed bonus. Either way, the chance of actually getting said bonus is further diluted by the orblings being randomly weak only to vertical or lateral pincers. Picking the wrong one makes them flee, even when outflanking them. It's sort of safe to say there'll also be no way to exploit S/L for them.
- Some King Orbling eidolon, for the 5 people who still give / ever gave a shit about them.
- A vote on the next eidolon after that for that same group, offering either Bahamut, Leviathan or Odin. Bahamut won.
- Something about Luck I'm unable/too lazy to decipher. Apart from the fact that a partie's average Luck will be shown on their screen, which feels like an obvious oversight that should've been there from the start...

>>154372502
>Merlin surviving a turn on T4
>Burn 4 on T7
It's shit unless you're running Scholarly Witch instead

>>154374324
Wooo, Lucia comes back. I can finally get the Storm Witch for her recode.
With Bahl and Amina getting also their recodes, I guess I need some coins. Btw, was there any information what kind of Helix Bahl needs? I never found anything.

Also
>Eidolons
I don't play TB for that long, but I never bothered about them. Even when there were half stamina events you never found anyone to get them. Also they seem to be quite a bit of work.
Were they ever somewhat relevant?

>>154375149
>what kind of Helix Bahl needs?
Nothing confirmed yet, but my money would be on Temporal, as all the "lesser" recodes currently require. Amina is the only oddball right now who requires good old mantle helices. Bigger issue would be a new source of Terra Fragments to re-evolve old Bahl & Grace. But I guess that won't be too hard if MW isn't completely demented.

>Were they ever somewhat relevant?
They're only really used for PvP, where anyone who seriously wants to bother with it pretty much requires a mastered Lamia, because of how fucking broken she remains even after her nerf.
Other than that, some of the easier Eidolons were and possibly still are more exploited for training and decent exp rather than the Eidolons themselves, since you can leech off other people's stamina. Some people threw huge autistic hissyfits in the past when MW nerfed Exp/Gold/item gains from coop for a while.

>Fairy Hero releases
>Opens 2 Evo mat dungeons which are impossible to complete even if you whale hard and get the only 3 5*s currently in the game
Bravo Magicbox

>>154376019
Are there any real fairies in this or is it all fairy tale shit? I've never been more disappointed by a name.

>>154376391
Its more towards fairytale shit, there's Jeanne D'Arc, Arthur, Kaguya as the 3 5*s atm.

>>154373057
Imagine getting a Mordecai with this

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>>154378515
What's her character like? I see her referenced all the time in these threads and yet I have no idea what she's like.

>>154378768
she mumis a lot because shes mumi

>>154378768
Mimi is cutesy and girly. Mumi is her annoying speech tic and fan nickname.

Have you guys registered for this? It's a game by Dengeki and DeNA

https://tenkahyakken.jp/zan/

>>154378768
Likes plushies. A lot. Wants to become one to help out lonely people like her?? Very cutesy, kind of dumb, really likes praise. I wish her flora transform story with that little flying evil thing was something less shallow

What are those "good luck" bands for?

>>154379561
Give to one of the students that are running for sports festival committee chair. Counts as votes

>>154379506
>Likes plushies. A lot. Wants to become one to help out lonely people like her??
What the fuck?
>kind of dumb
That explains it.

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Nozomi, Yuri, and Kurumi are girl link for extra drops today, in case you don't have Birthday Renge and want to feel like you're making a difference with your votes.

Give them all the same weapon to farm weapon crystals at the same time too.

>>154379561
http://pastebin.com/Nw6ArgsC
Voting for who you want leading the sports festival. Give them to one of the 6 girls on the posters at the side of the classroom.

I hope you haven't been missing your gacha ticket gifts either.

>>154380182
Her parents go out at night a lot it seems, leaving her alone, so she tends to only have her stuffed animals as company.

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>>154380182
Being mumi is suffering. Other anon explained the plushy + lonely part. The dumb I was referring to was more like the dumb and naive in the island game event stories which you can go read in the google doc

Looks like everyone dropped Potion Maker, Panzer Waltz and Shironeko here.

>>154358376
It's different than what I do, for sure. Well, it's not my main class but mine does look slightly more traditional.

Also, my aggro forest isn't playing solitaire.

>>154380953
>talking about potion maker
What is there to say besides I want to fuck pio?

Game of Dice is very fun.

>>154380953
Colopl got really jewy with shironeko and stopped giving away lots of gems to roll, so I somewhat lost interest in playing it a lot. I'm just logging in once a day and clearing event missions, not even bothering with coop outside of the one clear for gems. All the new features require lots of grind and aren't very fun nor interesting.

>>154380953
>Shironeko
I wish.
I never hated wood more in my life.

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>>154380352
>Her parents go out at night a lot it seems, leaving her alone, so she tends to only have her stuffed animals as company.

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>>154380953
>Potion Maker
>2nd half of August was dumb and ugly costumes for Pio
>1st half of September is the SAME dumb and ugly costumes for Tia
>last Likeability update was ages ago
>"Contest soon" forever
Even the devs consider the game on hiatus.

>>154381037
Help Tia with her family planning. Pio is the old hag of the two.

>>154381435
Everything will be more fun if you have others people to play it with.

>>154381864
Wow you are so rich. It would be great if you can convert it to real life money.

>try out moe cafe thingy 2
>actually very comfy
if only it doesn't have chinks all over the place

>>154381435
Funny that you bring this up as I actually installed it again yesterday after a year. Was greeted with a bunch of returning gifts so i thought yeah time to fuck shit up.

Then i got my shit pushed in so hard by their platinum characters and shiny dice.

>>154382706
When was its last update?

>>154379506
Kind of dumb is an underestimate. She's really dumb. Dumber than Hinata probably.

>>154383135
>Updated
>August 4, 2016
not sure what to make of it

Should a new player to Shadowverse save his gold to buy new packs (since I heard there's a new pack coming out) or just spend it all on current packs?

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>>154356008
hey, at least you get cores from it.
when will negev stop avoiding me? is she not pleased draining thousands of resources of me?

>>154383327
why?

>>154383405
No, its alright. If its last update was on 2015 then it will be a dead game.

>>154383609
Seen as the expansion is only gonna be 1/4th of the size of the current card pool
you're going to still be mainly using cards from the standard set
So if you dont have most of the relevant golds/ legends you should still be buying standard packs

>>154383839
But we don't know what cards will be relevant

>>154383960
But we know what is relevant now, and it'd be highly unlikely that cards like Otohime, Revelation and Genesis dragon become redundant after the new expansion

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>>154383661
>tfw it used to be something like 400 rolls with average luck using 600/600/100/400 to get her
>tfw now its gone up because they added a new MG into the 5* pool
>tfw it will continue to go up as they add new MGs and SMGs

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HELP

Does it even matter?

>>154384414
They might get alternatives though

>>154386895
not really pick red, she had a hard life

>>154386895
Blue is a prettier color. The clear choice.

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>>154387260
>>154387312

>>154387404
Red

>>154387404
Blue

>>154387404
Both

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So sad it's over. The slogan event has made farming the gift gems so easily. At least I'm ready to roll for the new Shiho and Kanon cards. Could they be planning a reset of these assignments eventually?

>>154388517
>reset
Wouldn't count on it until the one year anniversary of whenever they added it. Which I think is within the first few weeks of January?

Which reminds me I need to do solo lesson spam sometime. There's so many gems available there but they take so long to obtain.

>>154371146
You can only evolve one unit per turn aside from elder treant which is a fanfare evolution skill.

>>154389934
And my question is why in the case of Forest?Sure it works for other classes but for Forest it seems to restrictive.

>>154390045
Because Roach is silly enough without being able to evolve twice per turn? You don't change universal mechanics to fit the classes, you change the class cards if you feel they're underpowered.

>>154390045
That's why nobody plays that amulet.
On paper, it's a good card, and in arena, it's pretty useful, but in practice, it's not useful enough to warrant the field spot.

>>154390247
There's no reason why there couldn't be a "You can evolve an additional time this turn." effect.

Or we can get a spell or neutral card: "Evolve your shit for FREEE"

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Do you guys change your favourite student's outfit every so often or is there one you always go back to and stick with?

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>>154390920
I mix it up sometimes, to fit events or just for variety.

But I usually go back to a few favorites, like towels and such.

>>154381496
I'll take flowers of grace farm over soul of knights coop farm any fucking day man.

Does SV illustrators do porn/lewds as well?

>>154391652
FS drew a couple cards.

>>154390920
I usually try to fit the event, but since Bunny Suits are rather different, most everyone is whatever I like currently. For example, Renge and Asuha are in their maid outfits since Anko got a bunny suit.

I don't usually have a theme for dorm outfits. Transform outfit tends to be yukata/kimono or flora, maybe their swimsuit if they're already wearing a yukata.

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Them jeans seem a little too form fitting

>>154372475
Yep, that's going in my Earthrite deck. Great Arena card too.

>>154393097
>jeans
To me the logo's placement evokes the image of her lifting a baggy shirt with nothing underneath.

>>154393689
More like only wearing a sweater

>>154368658
How has will of the forest been performing for you?

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>>154394156
That's more or less what I want, but the shape of the bottom of the angle creates this subconscious image. Note that you can't actually see what her arms are doing from the silhouette.

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>>154390920
I try to have some variety but always end up switching back after a while
Twintails Sakura is just too cute

>>154395554
>That's more or less what I meant
>but the shape of the bottom of the logo

I really need to proofread my posts more.

>All these new SV card teasers
>Haven gets absolutely nothing but garbage
No love for the worst craft and best girl in the game?

>>154396131
I'm mad that they're only releasing like 1 card per day when there's 100 cards in the set.

>>154396131
The 5 cost Shadow gold is pretty garbage too.

>>154396790
Not if you got Atomy out on turn 3

>>154396903
a t o m y

>>154396903
Or discarded Mord with Altered Fate.

>>154396790
Not if you meme with hell's unleasher or atomy.

>>154396903
And then what? Atomy has to be destroyed to be brought back. Rather than going for face, you have to hope to destroy it with the opponents minions. If you want to destroy using your own cards, you're going to be emptying your whole hand for two Atomys.

>>154396903
Atomeme will never be good, people will just start running hard removal for it if it ever gets popular.

>>154397110
This would be pretty cool, but would that count as getting destroyed?

>>154397304
If your opponent destroyed Atomy on turn 4/5, there's no way they have an answer the next turn unless they're Haven.

>>154397504
That's not how it works. The Atomy controller has to destroy Atomy on their turn. The new card's effect activates on evolution so you if your opponent removes him, you can't bring him back.

>>154397456
If it counts for PTP, why wouldn't it count here?

>>154397661
Wait no, I just double checked. It's match not turn.

>>154397675
Sent to the grave != Destroyed

>>154397675
PTP only requires shadows. That doesn't prove that discarding is the same as destroyed.

>>154397110
Unfortunately I doubt we'll be getting that level of Black cheating any time soon.

>>154398351
Aww but golgari/Sultai was my favorite.

What do you need to clear the Souma quest in scooters? Feels like it'll be impossible for me like the 6* quest

Completely dead

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>>154402486
Kaiji?

>>154402486
>master1200
Anon pls.

>>154399496

How does your green box look like? You have Chiho right?

>>154403107
I don't get it

>>154403346
Resolution was reduced so the largest dimension is 1200 pixels.
You're not saving the original files.

>>154403568
Looks like I'm gonna have to go through my folder then

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How is evasion calculated in girls frontline?

Like what happens if your SMG has 58 evasion plus 23 from equips and then a 45% evasion buff from tile buffs? Is there a point where the enemies will just miss every hit or do you hit a point where everything after that is diminishing returns?

And what about the other stats?

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>>154403327
Pretty bad. I also only have like 1 green friend lead so it took me forever to get him on support list to clear chapter 2 of world B.

I know I need to farm a car boy but green hasn't been a priority and I always lose track of the drop boost days for it. Also need like 100 more Mami drops from the event.

>>154399496
I don't get it, either. My green box is decent, but Hoshi just nukes me before I even get a decent chain.

If nothing else, you can use my Chizuru: 5,161,194,515.

>>154404783
Sent

Reminder that the 1.5x exp event in girls frontline will end at 12 PM CST.

That means its going to end in approximately 7 hours from now.

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>need 1675 vials to finish my deck
>don't want to dust my animated cards because they are pretty
Waiting 2 weeks it is.

>>154403908
58+23=81
81*1.45=117.45

hit rate formula is in the guide

>>154406179
So the flat equipment boosts are applied before the tile buffs?

And yeah I saw the accuracy formula but was interested in knowing how Evasion and other stats are calculated.

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>>154404196
>>154404783
Try to get Kozue friends. It will make the battle so much easier.

This is my normal team for Souma. Chiho is important as leader because she will reduce Hoshi's nukes. Jeanne and Ryoko are there to kill Hoshi. Chiaki instead of Joan works probably too. The other two are optimal. Friend leader is Jeanne too for the HP boost and extra nuke(if you Jeanne doesn't hit hard enough).

Souma himself is easy and Kozue makes the fight a joke.

>do my second 10 roll in VF
>9 3* and 4* monster

why do i keep playing this whale shit?

>>154403568
What do I have to change in the image location to get the original? It looks like I need to at least get rid of /c/1200x1200 and change to img-original but I'm doing something wrong

>>154406429
Thanks for the advice.

An unrelated question about awakenings that reduce skill turns at the start of battle. Does that mean just at the very start of the stage or every enemy?

>>154407434
>just at the very start

Sadly this

>>154407846
Oh well. Still pretty cheap to get Yui's since the quest is up today.

>>154405749
You'll probably need to dust them anyways. With 100+ cards coming out, the meta is going to change pretty drastically.

>>154407394
I'm not 100% certain since I don't use pixiv yet/still, but looks liked the format is
########_p0.extension
But the url leading up to the file name is a mess?

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>>154407394
Anon, you're way overthinking things.

>>154408565
Meh, we well see. I think the bloodcraft golds will stick around for a while so i think they will be a decent investment.

I am at least willing to gamble with the crafting. Time will tell if i am retarded or not

>>154408869
Saving from that still does the master1200 thing though

I'm 400k away from 2mil points in the soul of knights thing. I don't think I'm gonna make it

>>154409121
What are you talking about? That opens up a full version of it.

Unless my Pixiv interface is somehow different than yours.

>>154409349
That anon is right

Going full on some pictures still gives you master1200 on some URLs. Its not in all but it happens in some pictures.

>>154409349
You get to view the full version but when saving, it gives me master1200 for some reason

>>154353548
So is Valiant's guild leader gone?

>>154409457
Huh, weird. Guess I never ran into those ones, then.

>>154409559
Go pixiv hunting for cuties and pay attention to the URL. Might notice that some still say master1200 even after going full but the image you saved is bigger than the thumbnail/preview.

>>154409698
Maybe it happens for images that are in sets? That's what I'm observing so far

>>154409273
Last jewel reward is at 1,660,00
2m is just one ex-rune, unless more is given for reaching that point. Not worth the hassle honestly.

>>154406649
I still can't play after 0.4.0
Devs are doing a really great job.

>>154409698
I've used it pretty regularly since before the manga/image set feature was added, and haven't ever seen it happen before.

I believe you guys in that it does sometimes, but I would guess it isn't very common.

But it would help explain why master1200 stuff gets posted so much even though that button is there. I just figured everybody just overlooked it.

>>154406323
use the same formula. average enemy acc is 40 and avoid is 15. dps calculation is also in the guide

>>154409903
>Don't get invited
>I can't play
OKAY

you anyway you need to redownload the APK

>>154406649
Incredibly so, I only have 1 monster whose type matches his skill attribute after about 50 gold summons. I've even rerolled faith and even then didn't get the correct attribute

it's a pain in the ass. The worse thing is when you run into whales in the arena who end up netting you a -13

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Goddamn
The one game where lucifer, satan, or jeanne didnt come up to save me

>>154410478
>average enemy acc is 40 and avoid is 15.
That's great to know, thanks.

Do you know the average accuracy and avoid of a story boss?

>>154410590
40 and 15 are for max level mobs btw. bosses are more or less the same

>>154410131
Here, check the images in this set

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58909692

Picture isn't /mbgg/ related but its what I had open at the moment.

>>154410864
>Bosses are more or less the same.
Really?
I thought a boss would have higher accuracy/avoid for being a boss and all that like Kancolle does with their bosses.

>>154410131
I only notice if a dimension matches the filename. Sometimes both dimensions are smaller than that but still have the master1200.

At least it's not as bad as image.jpg
Whole threads are trashed on /e/ because some chucklefuck has to post porn from their phone.

>>154410512
Already downloaded the latest apk.
Some people are having problem running the game after 0.4.0. Check the forum and the last few threads.

>>154410131

I always thought the size button on the top right would be enough so I dragged the picture directly to another tab. The system is fucking stupid.

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>>154410898
Still shows and saves as the non-master1200 version for me.

It does occur to me that it might be browser based. I like to use different browsers for different stuff, and all my Pixiv-browsing ended up on Firefox. So maybe it doesn't happen there.

>>154411297
Is Xoxo still playing or what?

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>>154374324
I used Suoh^ running 8bit Golem non-stop after Monday's update, and in all the runs it took to get Golem to 100 luck I got .2 luck for Suoh. Better just toi stick Camellia and Suoh in your farming team for whatever recode mats you'll need for the future like Temporal helixes. Coin Creeps team is another decent spot, though that does waste a slot that could be used for SB training. Just from the past couple weekends and the recent half-stam event, the team I've been SB training there has hit 2-3% luck.

Why are you guys bothering with Valiant Force ?

It's a piece of shit P2W game.
Seriously P2W.

I know /vg/ always plays the same 2 boring game, but don't encourage jew game like VF.

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nozomi

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mumi

>>154421432
Dammit Renge

Is there a reason to play more than your daily missions require in Shadowverse? Like how Hearthstone gives you 10 gold for every 3 matches won.

>>154421843

there are ranking score milestone that give you rewards, it tops at 100,000 score (which give you 5 free pack) and reset each month

Are there any youkai-focused games other than Otogi?

>>154422819
Youkai watch?

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Are there any recommended combos for equipment crafting in GF?
The character crafting section in the guide is quite specific about how each resource affects what you can get
but there isnt anything about resources for equipment crafting

>>154423536
I usually just do 50 x4 or 50 everything 150 ammo for equipments.

110 all and 150 ammo should be a catch all recipe

>>154423536
110 all for me
more manpower = nightvision
more ammo = bullets
At least that's what i got. I assume more parts is for scopes and more mres for that elbow thing for SMGs.

>>154422000
Nothing beyond that after you achieve that?

>>154424781
>Nothing beyond that after you achieve that?
The only thing beyond that is autism, seen as it'll take between 900 and 1000 wins to max it out

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>Currently playing 0 (zero) games.

>Decide to try to buy some stones
>Roll hero x10
>1 4* hero wrong attribute cannot evolve to 5*
>Rest are either wrong faith meaning useless or are stuck at 3*
>only 5 units in total discounting dupes

>Roll Equipment x10
>1 4* dupe
>1 5*

This fucking game man

>>154422819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB6dhh1irg0

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We're approaching very high levels of dead here

>>154430879
Reminder there's shitposters that unironically want to separate games from this thread that goes hours with only bumps.

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>>154431293
>All I can do in this thread is post cute girls.

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>>154431731
Cute girls are always relavant.

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>>154431731
>>154431882
Cute girls are the best

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>>154431882
>>154432320
This is true

dead

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doctor, the patient's condition is quickly deteriorating. We need more cute girls!

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mumi

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2 guns close to x4
1 SMG straight to 82
2 ARs from nothing to x4
1 RF from x5
And not pictured, another RF close to x4

This 1.5x event was very nice to my new guns but too bad about all that burned ammo. Leveling a MG outside of combat sims burns so much ammo holy shit.

Now to farm for cores to x5 all these girls.

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How far up ranked should I expect to get with this deck?

>>154436895
You can grind almost anything all the way to A0 with a ~50% win rate thanks to win streaks and low point loss.

>>154436895
>no fervid soldier

>>154436895
C0
Poverty Sword is a meme, you need the legendaries.
Also Midrange is better than face.

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mumi

>>154435561
Too bad I can't actually use them in a deck, they're cute. The only viable way to use them is dim shift and I only have one. In a game with no evolve points it might be a bit easier.

>>154436697
I kind of wish this game had a translation, it seems like it could be fun.

Or at least, it has nice girls.

>>154440219
You don't need one.

The UI is almost entirely in English and everything else is covered in guides or can be asked in /mbgg/.

>>154436895
That's not poverty sword, that's just shit.

And theoretically probably A0 if you grind enough and are lucky. But with that garbage deck I'm gonna say B2 is the best you can do.

>>154435561
That reminds me: does Haven have a win condition in Darkness Evolved?

It's the only craft in the game that has to rely on Satan to win.

>>154436895
Shroud minions are generally not used

>>154436895
>No Fervid
>No Wind God
>2 Sage Commanders
AA0, ranking up is just a matter of time as long as you are winning more than you lose

You dont gain gold from winning? Seriously?

>>154440759
Nothing that has been revealed so far. One could argue that the two neutral cards (Legend that refills evolution points and gold that evolves the board) might count, but they extremely iffy win conditions at best.

>>154441058
He's going to be losing more than he wins with that deck.

>>154440639
>>154440972
>>154441058
How would you alter the deck bearing in mind a low vial count

Any games I can play semi-passively/ while im watching tv? Also, what are most you guys playing besides shadowverse?

>>154445193
I used to play Oz Chronicle. it's just mindless grinding for the most part so you could play while watching TV.