/fog/ - Fallout General

>>154292649
ur a piece of sh*t

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>>154292649
whatever just gibe (you)

>>154292472
>That takes back to launch, where I thought you couldn't just go and upgrade your SPECIAL. Silly me was still stuck in FO3/NV logics...

>you can't raise your SPECIAL in fo3 or FNV

wut

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Is ther any chance that we'll get a well made dual wielding mod at some point?

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>>154292873

Dual wielding is a meme

>>154252093
>>154251132
>beth's references to Lovecraft
Bethesda referencing Lovecraft is kinda stretchin' it. I doubt Emil is interested in those stories. Lots of Sci-Fi does take inspiration from it, and I'd imagine the movies Bethesda is inspired by was indirectly inspired by Lovecraft.

And the ghost house, while a fun little sidequest, wasn't really "eldritch" since it was pretty straight-forward.

Far Harbor would've been a pretty great opportunity though. Maybe Far Harborites could've been deformed with the Innsmouth look, with the implication that it was radiation mixing with something from under the sea. And the final progression might be more hostile and monstrous.

>>154292856
You couldn't max them all out, you could only perk up like 3 SPECIAL points

>>154293276
It's a fun meme, though.

>>154293291

FO4 is amazingly unspooky, even shit like the Cabot House questline features absolutely no spoops.

It's super unedgy, raiders just feel like goofy cartoon character.

I don't know what the tone they were going for was

Fallout 4 is probably one of the worst games ever devised by man.

>>154293381

Intense Training had 10 ranks
FO3 and FNV have you start with 7 more SPECIAL than FO4
FO3 had almost perfect
FNV had cyborg SPECIAL enhancements

>>154293436
Max profit by selling to COD-playing ten year olds who can spin it off as just another shooter.

>>154293436
Saturday morning cartoons, and /r/funny.

>>154293436
The worst example is that is the Museum of Witchcraft
>DUDE A DEATHCLAW LMAO
fuck off

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Bethesda is hiding butt sliders from us. Why are they allowed to get away with this?

But yeah, as good of an upgrade as the customization is, it leaves me wanting more. There are way too many arbitrary limits when it comes to face proportions (probably because they're scared of face-weighted clothing looking weird).
Changing muscle/fat mass does nothing to the texture and normal maps of the torso. You can't get ripped because you already are, even if you're obese or dangerously underweight? And I'm pretty sure the textures exist in the vanilla game. I've seen them on NPCs.
Also, as is highlighted in the picture, there's another layer of character body customization (affecting scale of polys weighted to individual bones?) that can only be modified through modding. Pretty sad.

>>154293649
Shit, I was looking forward to that.

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>>154293773
So was I anon.

>>154293436
>I don't know what the tone they were going for was
Flanderization

Why the FUCK are the Shank quests in nuka world even a thing?

If there was ever a fucking thing like artificial playtime, this is it.

Why are the female raiders in NW so thicc? not complaining

>>154293436
The only time f4 had atmosphere was when you first left the vault and you went back home, and then to concord to save preston(first time only, then the radiant quests ruined him), when you first went to diamond city, when you first visited the glowing sea, and then when you first visited the institute. I see a pattern here

>>154294224
Armored skirts.

Are there any autoloot programs yet?
Fireundubh's seems to have broken and I am no longer given the holotape and when I add it, none of the looting procs anymore.

>>154293436
>I don't know what the tone they were going for was
1950's scifi b-movie cliches, you know, like Falout has always been based around?

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>>154294440
If anything, fallout 1 was more of a 80s action movie and comic book style, the only references to the 50s came from the design of the technology, some references like nuka cola and the intro

That said, we are talking about bethesda, who made a random ass dog from the first game into a fucking icon, along with the likes of vault boy

>>154294651
Dogmeat makes an appearance in 2 as well.

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Which Gangs like what Parks?

>>154294651
>along with the likes of vault boy
They used Vault-Tec like a whore in 4's marketing.

>>154294651
>That said, we are talking about bethesda, who made a random ass dog from the first game into a fucking icon, along with the likes of vault boy

>Mad Max is one of the things that Fallout always drew from
>literally the dog from Road Warrior
>was in Fallout 1 and 2
>was in 3, found in the same way as the previous 2 games

They fucked it up in 4 though. Making it a GSD because "muh real life studio dog" was retarded

>>154294651
>who made a random ass dog
Which lots of people loved, and whose death to force fields was so common in-game that Interplay made it canon in the Vault Dweller's memoirs.

dogmeat was always something of an icon in Fallout 1.

>>154295075
>death to force fields was so common in-game that Interplay made it canon in the Vault Dweller's memoirs.
That's great.

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>>154294885
as a fucking easter egg, in a non canon special encounter, along with young tandi.

Honestly, if they just said that it was anrando dog, I would buy that, but they said that this is the direct anestor of the original dogmeat, we are to assume the same thing about the f4 dogmeat

>>154295029
I get the mad max reference, but they whored dogmeat out like vault boy. He is supposed to be another little character in the game, not a fucking mascot

>>154295075
see
>>154295029

But that brings up another question, if dogmeat died in mariposa, how the fuck did he reproduce with some bitch in dc? makes about as much sense as the kid in the fridge

>>154292910

I wonder if bethesta will make some consolation prize for console users, newgame+ or some or cheats.

>>154295248
>we are to assume the same thing about the f4 dogmeat

yeah a purebred gsd is a direct descendant of a blue heeler

he got the name because mama murphy is a schizo jenkem whore

>>154295287
It annoys me the way ghouls in 4 go from prune people with really good hair to zombies that look nothing like a ghoul. There should be some overlap in the design of feral & non feral.

>>154295248
>people like dogs
>REEEEEEEEE WHY ARE THE SHOWING OFF A DOG AT CONVENTIONS
Fuck off autist.

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>>154295518
you know, if you said the same thing about beth employees, I wouldn't even be surprised

In f3, they tried, and niggers who hate on it can say whatever they want, it was a worthy successor and a good introduction to the third dimension for the franchise. In f4, they gave up, didn't even bother finishing the game. Here is hoping that whoever makes new orleans at least uses the engine well

>>154295567
Tell me about it. Ghouls should be green because they are failed supermutants, exposed to fev but also to large amounts of radiation. Bethesda more or less just made them into zombies.

And don't get me started on the kid in the fridge the only canon explenation is that to that bs is literal magic

>>154295884
>And don't get me started on the kid in the fridge the only canon explenation is that to that bs is literal magic
inb4 pete

>>154292910
>Sony is this paranoid that PSN 2011 hack 2.0 is going to happen

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>>154295763
people shilled infinity ward whe they did that for cod ghosts, so I will do the same for bethesda

also fuck dogmeat I want him to be killable, but he is required for the main storyline. Mod fix when?

>>154296090
>people shilled infinity ward whe they did that for cod ghosts, so I will do the same for bethesda
what does this even mean?

>>154295248
>But that brings up another question, if dogmeat died in mariposa, how the fuck did he reproduce with some bitch in dc? makes about as much sense as the kid in the fridge
Not all the Dogmeats are related.

Dogmeat is more like a metaphysical concept rather then a direct line of dogs

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>>154296193
it means that when iw whored out their tacticool dog, people mocked them for it, but when bethesda does the same thing, people are okay with it

Double standards are killing me here. Especially since ghosts was actually a decent cod, your mileage may vary with advanced warfare but after that, cod went straight to hell. Dog wasn't even main part of the storyline like dogmeat is in f4, he's just another bland character that you see in a few missions

Does anyone else get a problem with the tagged junk outline staying on the screen when you bring your pip-boy screen up?

>>154295508
Nah, that would require additional work. If Bethesda is going to do anything odds are they'll give a discount for the PC version for owners of the PS4 version.

>>154296418
kill yourself

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>>154296383

Every Dogmeat is descendant of Nate and Nora's doge who ran away to prepare for the atomic bomb, knowing its children and children's children would defend the world from evil

>>154292910
With this and the recent blunder that will be the PS4 Pro (No 4k/Ultra HD Blu Ray playback, capped FPS in certain online games with regular PS4 players) why on earth would anyone get a PS4 over an Xbone?

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>>154296546
are you the same retard that keeps spamming links to pol?

>>154296647
nah m8

>>154296604
Why on earth would anyone buy a console over a PC

They're fucking retards, that's why.

>>154296604
>>154296717

Bloodborne Tbh

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>>154296717
I only bought a console for cod

my 360 years were great, also introduced me to dead rising

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>>154295884

>>154294990
They like Hell. You should send them there.

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>>154295884
Ghouls needs some lore love. Ferals especially.

Nuka-World touched on it quite nicely with Oswald and his friends. There's a lot of neat stuff there.
I especially liked the little exchange between him and the feral when he was trying to paint it.

They had a hell of a lot of exposure in 3 too.

The sustenance thing is pretty weird. I think Bethesda's idea of things is that starving a ghoul of food and water just totally fucks them up (as opposed to them straight up dying, like in Necropolis.) That's why the BoS soldier feeds the ferals, to keep them docile. As for the Gunner that says "they don't need food or water", I think that's literally just because he doesn't know what he's talking about. Radiation also keeps them alive. The boy in the fridge is really dodgy, but you could always say he survived on stale rainwater or something. Honestly, worse things have happened in the FO universe.

>>154296775
>$400 for a now $20 title

>>154296821
DR series is also on PC

>>154296870
>Honestly, worse things have happened in the FO universe.
Nothing worse than when Bethesda bought it because they were afraid to make their own post-apocalyptic title.

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>>154296881
yes soon enough, but dr1 was a 360 exclusive for 10 years

tbqh, I will be switching gears into dr again, dr1 with mods will be the shit, good warmup before dr4 comes out

>>154296870
BEthesda actually expanded ghoul lore a lot in Fallout 3, the problem was the terminal it was on was bugged, and the links aren't set up properly, so clicking on them doesn't bring up anything.


>In my seven dozen years studying the ghoul anatomy, I discover more and more evidence to support my theory on the nature of the not-radiological human, or "ghoul" as they are commonly called.

>In summary: I theorize that our unnaturally long lifespan is due to a mutation within the autonomic nervous system of certain individuals following exposure to specific combinations of ionizing radiation with wavelengths below 10 picometers. This mutation, it seems, disrupts the normal process of decay in the neurotransmitters along the spinal cord.

>Specifically, the transmitters effected are those responsible for cardiac and respiratory function in a healthy human. According to my studies, these transmitters are continually regenerated after mutation, carrying sufficient oxygen to sustain the life of the subject while being insufficient to retain skin elasticity and avoid necrosis, the result of which is the corpse-like appearance of post-mutation humans. It should be noted that exposure to radiation typically result in sickness followed by death and the x-factor that will lead to mutation upon exposure in lieu of the typical outcome remains unknown to this researcher.

>In the coming months, I will be assembling my findings on this subject into a full study.

So with Nuka World is the Dev team officially wrapping up support for the game? As in will we still be getting a couple of patches before they end development for good on it?

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>>154296775
>Bloodborne Tbh
Every time.

>>154297131
>The brain structure of a Luminous Necrotic Post-Human (colloquially referred to as a "Glowing One") indicates that the regenerative ability of the neurological systems that affords typical Necrotic Post-Humans their longevity, does not extend into the higher reasoning functions of the brain itself. This subject is further covered in report on the dissection of Feral Necrotic Post-Humans

>The distinctive luminescence that is the trademark of the Glowing One can be best attributed to an unusual amount of radioactive chemicals that building up in the bloodstream and muscle tissue of a typical Ghoul. Upon the transformation into a Feral Ghoul, the neurological systems of the body cease filtering these particles from the blood and tissue, instead causing them to build a distinctive bioluminescence that is distinctive of the "Glowing Ones".

>Their social structure seems to be different from that of the Feral Ghoul. They actively seek out others of both their strain and those afflicted with Ferocious Post-Necrotic Dystrophy, particularly those who may have been injured. Studies on the nature of their healing effects on other ghouls continues with no conclusive results as of yet.

>The brain structure of a Feral Necrotic Post-Human indicates that the regenerative ability of the neurological systems that affords typical Necrotic Post-Humans their longevity does not extend into the higher reasoning functions of the brain itself. This is a condition that I refer to as Ferocious Post-Necrotic Dystrophy.

>As the reasoning and high order thinking portions of the brain deteriorate, the Post-Human subject becomes increasingly hostile, giving into a carnal need to feed as opposed to the capacity for thinking that reasoning that a typical Necrotic Post-Human retains. It remains unclear exactly what precipitates this change in biology and psychology, but anecdotal evidence seems to indicate that non-social ghouls, or those in isolation, are more prone to the condition.

>>154296870
>kid in the fridge is dodgy

even if we assume that ghouls don't need to eat or drink, which is impossible, they still need to breathe. The kid would run out of breath long before he became a ghoul. This a real phenomenom in the 50s, before the government made it the law that the fridge has to be able to open from the inside as well

>>154297238
Not him, but if you actually look at the fridge, you will see its not entirely sealed.

>>154297169
Patching will be done by next month at the most.
That's also when modders go back to Skyrim so consider FO4 dead in the water.

>>154297238
It's just shitty writing by an employee. No more, no less.

>>154297371
I'm looking forward to playing skyrim again.

>>154297014
Wanamingos. Intelligent Deathclaws. Tunnelers. Hell, even The Master doesn't make sense.

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>>154297356
>>154297386
>trying to explain the kid in the fridge

Fellas, stop. It's not canon, it doesn't exist, so let's stop talking about it.

The onlu thing tha matters is that there is a mod on nexus that replaces him with a sk3leton, as he should be

>>154297510
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/10

I just noticed, but, the Nuka World Red Rocket doesn't count towards the 8 raider outposts you need for Wasteland Warlord rank three, does it?

>>154297371
So how hard will it be for most modders to make new versions of their mods they already had on vanilla skyrim?

If I had a dime for every modder that has quit because of "muh feelings" or "muh comments" I would be rich.

Will Fallout 5 have a psyker player character?

>>154297460
>Updated creation engine w/ added effects via FO4
>Mod menu integrated
>Probably be able to use more than 4 GB of ram at a time
>Better performing?
>PC players get it for free

I know that feel anon.

>>154297703
No but you will meet a few during gameplay.

>>154297589
Will Bethesda do the whole precombined meshes thing for it too? I know barley anything about modding but from what I can tell that has caused some issues with 4.

>>154297754
It's 64bit which means that yes, it's more stable.

>>154297848
What issues
Do you mean "Suits" instead of modular pieces that modders have done for years in Skyrim

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>>154297572
Not bait.

>Wanamingos
We need high level enemies. What about aliens? We can just say they're FEV or something l o l

>Intelligent Deathclaws
Go against the standard mutations of FEV, and don't really fit in, which is why Avellone said that they're dead and gone after F2.

>The Master
Also goes against the standard mutations of FEV. He turns into a big, pink blob of psychic, hyper-intelligent biological matter than can interface with conventional technology.
Then again, maybe the pre-war batch of FEV he fell into was some archaic unstable bullshit that fucks you up if you stay in it too long. So this one can be excused.

>>154296881
>2000$+ dollars for early access titles

>>154298062
What he means is that many objects, such as bridges and shit rock/tree placements, use a new system called precombined meshes in Fallout 4, which takes all of them and combines it down into one to save system meeory.

However, if you try to change only one of the meshes involved, without regenerating the precombined meshes its used in, te precombined mesh will overwrite the changes.

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>>154298126
>stealth
>in a game that gives you power armor and a minigun within the first 15 minutes

>>154298242
Wanamingos are a pre war experiment, Intelligent deathclaws don't go "against a standard of fev", especially since they are an enclave experiment, and the master is a one of a kind mutant

meanwhile, bethesda just made all ghoul "lol radiation zombies"

yeah, you can fuck off

>>154298062
this
>>154298395

>>154298484
It's almost as if he made that post in reply to me.

>>154298538
I never said he didn't.

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>>154296574
I

I like this idea

>>154298126
I would love to stealthily plunge my dick into her pussy if you know what I mean

>>154298678
So you're just autistic. Got it.

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>>154298831
>inb4 the pol shill comes back to correct the record and derail this thread

>>154295508
They'll have to do something to make up for not delivering on their promises. My guess is that they'll either go back to the limited mod system they already had, or offer some sort of coupon in exchange for a waiver. Worst case: They'll offer a limited refund for PS4 users.

>>154292742
That doesn't look healthy.

>>154299314
>They'll have to do something to make up for not delivering on their promises
Not him but, no they wont.

>>154299314
>They'll have to do something to make up for not delivering on their promises.
>Worst case: They'll offer a limited refund for PS4 users.
They wont do anything. That statement is it.

>>154293276
There are worse.

>>154298445
>Wanamingos are a pre war experiment
>t. Fallout Bible, AKA hasty retroactive explanations (they're also dead and gone because they don't make any fucking sense)

>Intelligent deathclaws don't go "against a standard of fev"
Yes they do. FEV doesn't inherently make you more intelligent. It sharpens senses and increase muscle mass, as a generalization (when regarding mammals at least).
Also declared "extinct" (see: non-canon) because they make no sense

>the master is a one of a kind mutant
and yet isn't backed up by Fallout SCIENCE! But like I said, I'll leave that one to chance

Also, Bethesda established more about ghouls than Interplay/BI/Obsidian ever did.

The lore's fucked. Yet, since 3, things are getting better, and New Vegas even added lots more lore elements without negating anything that Bethesda did. All smiles.

>>154299421
>>154299469
They'll get sued, if they don't do anything.

>>154299594
by who?

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>>154299593
what the fuck are you even talking about?

>>154299594
No they won't.

>>154299689
Enterprising lawyers, who'll round up a bunch of angry PS4 users to sue for damages caused by false marketing. There is a lot of money in class action lawsuits.

>>154299897
That is not going to happen m8

>>154299897
Not him, but by this logic Bethesda would have gotten sued for all those radiant AI, super dynamic shadows, destructible economy, and large civil war promises they made for Oblivion and skyrim that got cut out.

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>>154299897
>implying teenagers and autistic menchildren have any money

If this was the cfog crowd, maybe this would be a different story.

Actually, never mind, even they are not retarded enough to buy a game with mods for a console

>>154299897
>false marketing

I don't think you know what that is.

What if Bethy made up for the lack of PS4 mods by offering a new season's pass worth of free DLC?!

And it's all settlement tilesets

>>154300041
None of that stuff is easy to understand for judges and the average consumer. User modifications, on the other hand are easy to understand, in principle.

>>154300079
They don't need, and won't get any money. That's all handled by lawyers who make a living this way.

>>154300171
In the US: It's making a claim that the average consumer will reasonably believe to be true, and then not delivering on that claim. And this really means "average consumer" not "jaded veteran-gamer".

>>154300386
That would be fine, if a large enough number of PS4 users would agree to it.

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>>154300523
nobody cares about the normie station 6 million, mr goldberg, so fuck off

>>154300557
JUST

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>Bethesda gets sued for 1 trillion dollars
>They sell off their assets
>Obsidian picks up Fallout franchise IP
>They make a new, fully independent Fallout game on their own schedule
>It's complete garbage

>>154295020
To be fair, vault tec is now the most important pre-war institution to the SS and pretty much the posterboy for everything that was awful about pre-war companies, which is something that Fo4 focuses on due to boston being a major area for corporate and military R&D.

>>154300714
>that pic
based Valentino

>>154300820
*LONG-WINDED BLOG POST ABOUT CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND BOOHOO I HAD TO CANCEL MY VACATION*
FUCK
ME UP

>>154292910
Not exactly surprised. There were all these issues that were just Sony refusing to play ball (texture compression and audio support)

>>154297589
Unless it uses the likes of SKSE, all that is needed is to run it through the CK.

>>154300853
That wouldn't happen.

Feargus Urquhart, Obsidian's CEO, said in a recent interview that even if they got the Fallout IP, they simply wouldn't have the funds to make a game becuase it would cost too much to make one

>>154300896
Okay that is fair enough but they slapped Vault-Boy into every fucking thing they could. I hate that little fucker now.

>>154300820
>>154300930

what's this about Tbh?

>>154300896
Without vault-tec fallout would just be mad max.

>>154301125
You should.

He's literally the face of one of the most awful corporations in the post apocalypse genre.

>>154300853
I like NV and Black Isle, but fuck modern Obsidian. They'd probably turn fallout into a diverse tranny wankfest. Full of man-love, obesity, and quirky lesbians.

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>>154301104

delet this

>>154301176
robins ama https://soundcloud.com/user-433087746

>>154301351
normally I'd agree with you on these topics but holy shit you come off as pathetic

>>154294651
>a random ass dog from the first game into a fucking icon
both fo1 and fo2 had dogs.
fo2 actually had multiple dogs.
having them, getting attached to them and (in fo1) them dying was part of the game.

>>154301104
they made wasteland 2 and from what i understand wasteland 3.
they don't have to make it a first person shooter.
i'd be fine with fallout using the wasteland engine.
it's truer to the original game then the current engine.

>>154301564

>Pariah Dog

Holy shit I never knew about that one

>>154301714
>i'd be fine with fallout using the wasteland engine.
And fucking no one would buy it.

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>>154294651
>who made a random ass dog from the first game into a fucking icon
THE WHOLE LONE WANDERER WITH DOG STUFF IS FROM MAD MAX WHICH LITERALLY 90% OF EVERY FALLOUT GAME SINCE FALLOUT 1 IS BASED ON YOU SAD LITTLE CUNT

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>>154301351
Even if it were a diverse tranny wankfest, it'd be a really fucking solid RPG.
J Sawyer basically has an enormous list of what went wrong in the development of NV, and, had they another chance, the final game would be much more polished and well-rounded.

>>154301714
>it's truer to the original game then the current engine.
That doesn't necessarily make it better. Iso games sacrifice a lot for the sake of budget.

>>154301714
>i'd be fine with fallout using the wasteland engine.
Enjoy your 5 sales and bankruptcy all because muh misguided spirit of the originals.

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>>154301892

>LONE WANDERER WITH DOG STUFF IS FROM MAD MAX

u foqqin w8 mot

>>154301975
i mean i know it's not as popular with most people but i like it.
clearly pleasing me is more important than market to a massive audience.
i am a tastemaker.

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>>154301892
tfw no Dinki-Di Dog mod

>>154301923
I agree, but Iso games also leave a lot going for them. Fallout 1 and 2's lack of voice acting allows more NPC interactions, while Fallout 3 used a lot of similar voice actors. I'd love to see the old guys take a crack at isometric Fallout, since I missed shooting people in the dick and placing more focus on my Specials.

Not to say the 1st/3rd person perspective should be eliminated. They should both be able to have their own games at the same time.

>>154301975
Just like how obsidian, inxile, larian and harebrained are facing bankruptcy now right?

>>154302124
>you'll never drive through the desert in a fusion powered highwayman with a ghoulish blackfinger in the back

>>154302253
not that anon but while they are all making a profit non of them are swimming in money.
the point of these games is to make a profit by having a very small budget.
i don't think bethesda does small budget anymore.
they won't get out of bed for less than 100 million.
you put a shit ton of money into an old school rpg, you're gonna have a bad time.
see: everything modern tim schafer has done.

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>>154302124
Then make one? It shouldn't be too hard to retexture the existing canned dog food.

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>>154292910
>consoles
never again
glad I got off that train a long time ago

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>>154302453
I didn't say canned food you fucking dunce. I said dog mod.

>>154302278
>ywn creep through an old and giant old-world ruin with a suspenseful atmosphere
and have many spooks

>>154302631
>ywn creep through an old and giant old-world ruin with a suspenseful atmosphere
It'd be cool to see something like the Glowing Sea, but in an urban area. A town that's relatively unharmed from the bombings, but is constantly barraged by the fallout from an impact crater a few dozen miles upwind.

>>154302278
That's what I miss the most from classic Fallout and pre gamebryo TES : The epic scale. I want to ride through the desert for days, never meeting more than a few radscorpions or a lone water caravan.

How would one go about turning cap stashes into a pile of bottlecaps instead of a borderlands tier loot box?

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>tfw Bethesda games will never EVER have horror elements because Bethesda can't into AI that doesn't suck chode

>>154301892
>>154302005
Fallout 1 takes inspiration from multiple sources . I wouldn't be surprised if Vault 13 came from the underground society in Vic and Blood.

Dogmeat was an Easter egg in Fallout 2 and left out of New Vegas, though. To say he has to be in every game is just as confused a statement as saying Super Mutants gotta be a huge problem, or that the Brotherhood and the visor imagery on the cover must be a prominent part of Fallout. In reality, Fallout evolves and changes as societies rise and fall just like history. It's not at all a comic book, where the Batman must come back every month and nobody stays dead.

>>154303910
>I wouldn't be surprised if Vault 13 came from the underground society in Vic and Blood.
A boy and his dog.

>>154293436
I concur, honestly. I was disappointed that all I would do for the Pack and other guys was just shoot at gunners and Brotherhood. I threw on a stealth boy to sneak up and latch a collar on the gunner- surprise, I'm supposed to shoot him. But he's essential so I have to collar him when he's on the ground.

They present the door as a surprise so when you open it and see a wall, a chord plays. But you have no reason to chase after her and open it when there's a room full of junk. Cool voice acting though. I'm just ready for someone else to make Fallout 5.

>>154303728
im convinced bethesda only got so popular out of pure luck, because they legitimately cant do fucking anything on par with modern games

>>154304472
They realized people like sandboxes.

>>154304472
90% of their success is due to mods. 10% is sheer luck and timing.

>>154294440

Fantastic bait good sir. You're sure to catch a good one.

>>154304472
Explain all the people that play their games on console

>>154304749
pure luck and normies

>>154304749
They're consoleshitters, what's there to explain?

>>154304615
>next TES game will have farming, cattle raising and building a town

>>154304002
The whole collection's called Vic and Blood so I'm inclined to think of it as that. Thanks for the correction though. It reminds me that Ellison needs to get his ass up and write the book.

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Right as it died.. It just stared at me.

>>154304976
"My ancestors are smiling at me, Vault Dweller. Can you say the same?"

>>154301714
Are you talking about Obsidian because no they fucking didn't. Furthermore, as a fan of Obsidian, you retards need to get off their dick because the company is DEAD and everyone with the talent that made NV is long gone and moved on to other companies.

>>154302253
All of those barely string together money to pay their employees let alone finance big titles OR EVEN BUYING the IP from Bethesda in the first place if this hypothetical came to pass.

>>154304749
>Explain all the people that play their games on console
Morrowind was actually good so game journalists started propping them up as Go-To devs for RPGs and bait them with every title.

It's low bar of entry, casualized gameplay and the trendy geek=chic that took over make it a mainstream bait for cashing in on.

>>154305189
>Photo of Nora smelling her upper lip

>>154304642
Lol no, a lot of their success is because they dominate the open world sandbox market and the rest is marketing and the community that's been playing their game for decades.

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So i have seen it mentioned a couple of time but how do i build the chip to make creatures i trap into companions?

>>154305503
You have the mod right? It's in the chemistry bench under utility.

>>154304868
This guy is right.

Screencap his post,next TES will be Skyrim 2 with farming and settlement building.

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>>154305602
its a mod i thought i was added with the wasteland workshop?
Shit guess its another thing i have to download into the pile of mods.

>>154305605
I don't see why it wouldn't have those, they did the framework with F4 so there's no reason not to reuse it, a few people saying "I don't like it!!" isn't going to make them stop when the majority either like it or don't care if it's included or not.

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>PS4 will never have mods
>people will forever have to deal with all the bullshit in this game
>can't even do basic stuff like add balistic weave to good clothes

>>154305746
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14265/

>>154305785
>people
>PS4 only
>people

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>>154305785
>bethesda games on console

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>Bethesda makes powered exosuits
>Still no waifu mod of it
Fucking when

>>154305605
But that'd actually be pretty neat.

>>154304868
A town that will be filled with robotic freaks that all repeat the same two sentences and stand in a group not moving.

>>154305878
Thanks famalam

>>154304868
>>154305605
You forgot the Blacksmith, Carpentry, Dwemer Contraptions, and Cave-Mage DLC.

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>>154305785
So just like every Bethesda title for console previously?

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>make an edgebot to live at Taffington Slaughterhouse with my edgelord gang
>he just walks around talking about fishing and the sea with his processed male voice

>>154305924
Niero is doing that with CROSS though right?

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Anyone know what mod this is from?

I tamed the Nuka Queen then let it loose in the lake outside Fizztop. It was a blood bath.

>>154306229
bloatsmith extended

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>>154306219
Wrong picture

>get this fucking light out of my eyes

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>there is a Nuka-Cola Quantum X-01 power armor in Nuka World on display even though the X-01 was made after the war

>>154306428
It's a reference to the Enclave on the moon meme.

>>154304472
Bethesda was a fucking shovelware studio. Yet, their 3D Terminator games were ground braking, Arena was the most immersive first person dungeon crawler ever, Morrowind is a masterpiece of world design, the console versions of Oblivion were considered technological marvels of their time.

It saddens me to think of what they could have become with proper management.

>>154305263
Funny considering inxile and obsidian have multiple projects in the works. They clearly aren't struggling.

>>154306428
please not again

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>>154306219
Did someone say edgebot?

>>154306428
yeah we know retard

>>154306428
bethesda where the rule of cool>internal consistency

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>>154306428
Not interested in discussing it.

>>154306484
>need to kikestart their projects or take contracts from others just to stay alive
>aren't struggling
This is the denial stage.

>>154306604
GAME

W/ TALKING MUTANTS

AND GHOULS

NOT INTERESTED

NOT REAL

>>154306482
>It saddens me to think of what they could have become with proper management.
Know people like you, proper mangment probably means turning into some low tier indie studio that only makes shovelware indie games that all of about 5 people buy like Wasteland 2, or Pillars of Eternity.

>>154306604
Pete Hines looks like a non-dwarf version of Warwick Davis.

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>>154306494
I wanted mine to have a skinny emo with thick legs kind of look the Disciples all seem to have for some reason.

>>154306918
Robots shouldn't have hips anon...

>>154306918
>thick legs kind of look the Disciples all seem to have for some reason.
The one near the Nuka-cade is thicc as fuck, I get my jollies out everytime.

>>154307143
Look at this fucking faggot.

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>>154301975
Uhhh.. fuck you? Where have you got that idea?
Wasteland 2 was a CLEAR success and you don't know ANYTHING about how it works. It shows that people still show interests in well made quality top down rpg. Fuck off.

>>154306796
"People like me" drop out of the rat race when they are ~30 and realize they've made enough money to last them a few lifetimes.

"Proper management" means: not skimping on thing like recruiting and QA. And instead prioritizing production over marketing and executive payouts.

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>>154306640
I don't know if I'd say Obsidian is dying but the people who made NV did move on so I'm not sure if I want them to make a new one. I'd love it if they did NV remastered though with the assets and engine from Fallout 4.

>>154307143
It's a male assaultron too, male torso, male legs and male voice. Guess that makes it a trapbot.

>>154307181
Why are they like that?

>>154307368
Welp I would insert my penis into the trapbot

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>>154307143

>>154307368
>Why are they like that?
Someone has a fetish. Female raiders outnumber the male ones and two of the gangs are run by women.

>>154307564
Jetstream Sam is barely a cyborg.

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>>154307525
Would it have a pistol where the data port would normally be?

>>154307584
I've only seen 2 male Disciples and one of those was Savoy.

>>154307324
> not skimping on thing like recruiting
Bethesda has had open jobs on their website for years.

>and QA
The QA argument has always given me a chuckle.

Bethesda games are on the scale of small MMOs, hell, Morrowind and Oblivion were called "the single player MMOs" for the sheer size and scope.

Name one MMO that hasn't come out as a buggy mess. You can't, its impossible.

It doesn't mater how big the team is, or even if you have a decade to make the game, games that large always come out as buggy messes. Its a simple unavoidable fact of making a game that large.

Even if you look a games with far smaller levels of interaction, like GTA where 99.99% of everything is a static proper that just respawns if you look away from it, have known ot have crazy and wild bugs like entire parts of the map vanishing into black voids.

Expecting the game to not be buggy is stupid. and honestly, if you look at Oblivion, Fallout 3, Skyrim, and Fallout 4, they have gotten MILES better in Skyrim/Fo4 compared to Oblivion/Fo3

>>154307324
Looking forward to skyrim 2 to see if they learned their lesson. While 4 was a financial success the critical reception was more like "It's pretty good I guess" instead of the rave reviews previous bethesda games got.

>>154307637
But he is THICC

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>strong can't use a gatling laser
not-fawkes was a mistake

>>154307564
>accentuating a man's hips to make them look enormous and feminine
I still don't understand this design choice on any fucking level.

>>154307876
>skyrim 2
>not tes 6

>>154306796
Not him, I feel like your assessment of what other anons here would do if they managed Bethesda's a bit inaccurate.

I mean, Bethesda hit it's stride with an open world filled with rich lore and worldbuilding that is Morrowind. So I would have wanted to build on the success of Morrowind and keep Cyrodiil a Japanese/Roman-Jungle city, a character creation and building system that allows for all kinds of potential character concepts for the player, and questlines with strong stories, multiple paths to take, and well-written characters.

Things like that would be important to me.

But I guess to you, that version of Oblivion would just be "indie shovelware only 5 people play."

>>154307904
>hips
Thighs

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So,/fog/,which Fallout game has the worst set of companions?

imho Fallout NV > Fallout 4 > Fallout 3

>>154307998
It has the same effect.

>>154308119
I hated most of the companions in NV

>Boone
>Veronica
>Gannon
>the drunk
The only ones that stood out were Raul, Lily and ED-E the rest can just die.

>>154307276
Didn't you know?

Anything anyone didn't personally enjoy is therefore objectively shit and with a 100% probability didn't sell well, actual facts and figures be damned.

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>Developer known for not delivering on promises, and straight up lying about features
>Promises mods on PS4 and Xbone without actually knowing if they can deliver
>Mod support on Xbone released later than promised, complete radio silence on ps4 for months
>Mod support completly dropped for ps4
>lol it's sony's fault, we won't tell you why but just trust us
>people trust them
He's done it again

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>>154308143
I dunno, my thighs are so thick that I bought boxer briefs in my size and had to rip the bottoms a bit to wear them comfortably, despite having no problem with trousers in that size. So, my thighs are thicker than is apparently normal for someone with my waist size (which is 32). Probably because I do in the neighborhood of 200 squats a day but yeah.

>>154305924
hmmm.
How big do power armors have to be?
Is it possible to make new exosuit frames that are smaller or bigger?
If you can would other power armor parts scale to the size?

I was thinking of trying to port over the sisters of battle armor from FO:NV but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work.

>>154308550
>complete radio silence on ps4 for months

Actually a beta was ongoing, I actually uploaded a few mods. But fuck if there weren't a lot of problems with proprietary formats alone.

>>154308119
3
they got in the way
stole your xp from kills
and had no character
>2 generic edgelord raider companions
>a cyborg in power armor who uses a sledgehammer for some reason instead of a gatling laser or something not shit
>a dog who gets rekt by molerats
>a ghoul who doesn't talk or have a story aside from being a slave
>some pussy who used to bully you in the vault
companions in 3 weren't worth the trouble and the only person that would have been cool as a permanent companion was sydney

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>>154308143
You can have huge hips with thin thighs, or huge thighs with no hips

>>154308852
Don't argue semantics. The point is that Hideo is accentuating female characteristics on a male character in a way that in my mind doesn't make any sense.

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>>154308848
It did have Fawkes and that Mr Gutsy though

>Fallout 4 (v1.7.15.0 + 6 DLC + Creation Kit, MULTI8) [FitGirl Repack, Selective Download - from 21 GB]
Fucking finally.

>>154309009
Well, for thighs, it might be considered feminine, but it does mean that Sam has powerful legs, which would help go with his whole speed deal. It's also exaggerated by his muscle suit

>>154308119
4 has an overall stronger cast than NV, I'd say. Strong is a fucking disappointment though. No match for Fawkes, Lily and Dog/God.

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>>154309009
Your tiny Western mind is limited by traditional concepts of human sexuality, whereas in Japan there is a rich history of girlyguy protagonists and villains

>>154309198
>Strong disliked that

>>154308751
I was referencing the Marine Combat Armor.

>>154307904
>I still don't understand this design choice on any fucking level.
Aviator pants

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> I kind of like Codsworth.
> Oh cool AutoBotron makes it so I can upgrade him
> Sweet lazer gat arms
> Only sawblades for legs
> When Gutsy models get their 10mm SMGs and flamers on legs

y tho?
is there already a mod?
pic unrelated

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lmao

Do you guys think the modding scene is shrinking, since it's getting easier and easier to make and publish indie games?

Are there any target range mods that NPCs can use? It's the last piece of my lunchbox machine.

>>154309290
Yeah and football players have really shapely legs and tight butts from all the running around and heavy lifting they do

No homo

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>>154309448
whoa

>>154309451
Fallout 4's modding scene in a year has more mods than Fallout 3 did since release. It will never reach Skyrim numbers because Fallout never does.

>>154309451
No. Fallout 4 was never going to have as large a modding scene as skyrim.

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>>154308119
I think Fallout 1 has the most generic ones, my list is

4 > 2 > NV > 3 > 1

I really like SOME of the ones in 4, enough to make them number 1 for me. Nick Valentine is the best by a mile in any of the games. His point of view, his story, the way he bounces being a smart ass off himself back onto you and his development are great, I love Strong and I like Danse and Deacon. Piper is a generic piece of shit and so is Cait.

I agree with >>154308247 about all except Arcade he's a qt no bully

Bethesda gets shit from waifu faggots because they didn't just pump out more generic barbie doll cunts like Pooper but I like that they tried to make different characters instead of just Waifu #1 - #13

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>>154309198
>Strong is a fucking disappointment though. No match for Fawkes, Lily and Dog/God.
Well that's your opinion even if it's shit. Strong is COMPLETELY different from either of those and from the others in 4, he's a super mutant. He doesn't pretend he isn't one, he doesn't want to stop being one and he enjoys living as one. That alone makes him stand out from the others.

>>154309739
He's interesting, but I think if more had been done with him he would have been better received.

>>154309739
>That alone makes him stand out from the others.
Ah yes, whatever would we do without the trite and cliche brute that's as smart as a sack of potatoes.

Maybe make him interesting.

>>154309739
>MILK

>GIVE MILK

>KILL EVERYTHING

>ME WANT MILK

He is a shitty character that is annoying and boring. I would love a fully blood driven mutie who wants to fuck shit up. Strong is just retarded.

>>154309858
Well a lot of his hate comes from the fact that he doesn't like lockpicking.

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>>154307832
You don't know ANYTHING About GTA 5 technology.
http://www.adriancourreges.com/blog/2015/11/02/gta-v-graphics-study/

>>154309739
Even Cito is more interesting than him.

>>154309739
I don't like the shit he spouts about the milk of human kindness.
He might not pretend that he's a Super Mutant, but the shit he comes out with is retarded regardless of species.
He had potential. He didn't cut it. I do occasionally take him out to fuck shit up with though

Erickson > Strong

>>154310072
He's not as literal about it as people seem to think, he's just bad at explaining it. He does genuinely enjoy seeing you try to help people.

>>154309535
I'd hardly call Piper a generic barbie doll cunt, or really any of the female companions that.She has a rather strong sense of morality and desire to inform and help people, but she also doesn't give you shit for your chem use and only wants to get you help if you do get yourself addicted. Hell she even though her initial reaction to your siding with the institute is her being upset, she does later publish an article about how the Institute may not be so bad with you at the head if she has high affinity with you.

That said, I think the waifu-fags are mostly upset due to male companions outnumber the female ones when everything was even in the base game.

>>154309448
How?

>>154310252
Lazy artist.

>>154309952
If anything we should have had him be able to break locks on shit so we could do something instead of lockpicking

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>>154310015
You say that like Cito is a bad character.

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>>154309198
No. The only really good character that stands out in fallout 4 is Nick Valentine and John Hancock. They got some real personnality compared to the stupid and dumb curie in the wasteland.

>>154308247
those four character were literally the one with the most backstory and the best story and they were the most liked companion in the serie along with raul/lily/ED E. Nice b8 m8.

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>all this shit because I like Strong for not being a pseudo intellectual special snowflake and for being honest with himself
If you want MUH NOBLE SAVAGE so bad go put Preston in the Grognak loincloth.

>>154310315
That'd be really neat.

>>154310370
>Raised by Ghoulrilla's
>Cleanest person in all the commonwealth

>>154310370
I enjoyed shooting that retard in the face. I would have spared him if his voice actor didn't sound literally retarded.

>>154310436
People don't like him because he is the mutie equivalent of a down syndrome not because he is brutal.

>>154310315
I swore there were mods that allowed that.

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>>154310315
Breaking/bombing locks in general needs to come back as a mechanic in this series. Fallout 1 and 2 had it functional.

The problem is people that put points in lockpick would cry about the skill "being made useless" or some other whiny shit. The obvious way to balance it (and that one NV mod actually did rather well) is the possibility of hurting/crippling yourself from strain if your Strength is too low to force it or destroying the contents of a chest/not working on a door at all without the proper level of demolition skill.

>>154310441
clearly the radiation mutated them and they weren't gorilla, but Japanese Macaques and taught Cita the importance of bathing.

>>154310436
>Preston in the Grognak costume
I'll do you one better
>Cito's loincloth
WE WUZ TRIBALS AN SHIIEEET

>>154310428
>Nice b8 m8
No.

>Arcade: I'm SUCH an intellectual btw I'm gay btw do you know how smart I am let me quote some latin shit and be vague about my obvious backstory
>Veronica: OMG IM FELICIA DAY TEE HEE BTW IM ALSO GAY omg is that a dress im a nerd but im also feminine dont hit on me tho coz im a lesbian did you know im felicia day doing the exact same shit she does in every role?
>Boone: UGH my war my wife my ncr days my legion my war
>Cass: literally who gives a shit about this stupid drunk slut

Uninspired fucking garbage. Raul was great, Lily was barely put together and they didn't bother doing a Legion companion. ED-E is only good because of Lonesome Road and because he has the sound effects, that and he's cute.

Strong should have been like Lennie from Of Mice and Men. I would have been his George.

>>154310697
There are no tribals on the east coast

>>154310773
The Pack are definitely tribal.

>>154310773
Aren't raiders, more or less?

>>154310773
Are you actually fucking stupid?
>Preston
>Nigger
>Africa
>Nigger African Tribal

>>154310773
Point Lookout

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>>154310901
Not only that but he's wrong, several people from Fallout 3 mention being tribal, the one that comes to mind is the armour salesman who wandered around if he likes you he gives you an Eyebot helmet from his tribal days.

>>154310931
Those are just rednecks

>>154311090
Are you forgetting the actual fucking tribals in Point Lookout

>>154311174
You mean the rednecks

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>>154309521
>>154309530

AGAIN, fantasy games has more modders than games like fallout.

>>154309535

3 Had everything to have good companions, but then...

>Poor Sydney :(

>>154309959

you know that rockstar has atleast 100+ devs working on that engine right

NV, Fallout 3/4 and skyrim didn't even had that number

even if people keeps bitching about Gamebryo, unfortunately its the only engine that they have it, that it wont screw US or even them for modding


>>154310246

Remember that skyrim had a lot of female companions, and most of them had no personality, besides Lydia(after all updates), Mjoll, Serana and Frea, which was a big step from fallout 3, but then bethesda still kept the GENIUS AND RETARDED idea of making npc's who had more personality than the vanilla companions out, and even the tease you, some of them are temporary companions.

>>154310994
This

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>playing Schmault Tec DLC to level up for perks and Raider DLC
>clearing North East section
>Delete limestone wall
>50 radscorpions spawn
>mfw

>>154311174
Nobody remembers point lookout. the dlc had almost no story, you just wander around in an irradiated swamp then take drugs at one point.

>>154309521
>Fallout 4's modding scene in a year has more mods than Fallout 3 did since release
And they're majority low effort retextures.

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>>154310994
>Someday super mutants kill everything.

That reminds me, Strong's voice is crap. He sounds like a bloody idiot. And he's from the same group of SMs that say meta shit like "YOU CREATE SUPER MUTANTS, NOW SUFFER FOR YOUR IGNORANCE!"
Fawkes' voice was actually endearing, even though it was harsh, loud and broken. The VA did a great job.

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Am I ruining the experience for myself if I've enabled manual save in Survival Mode? For the record, I restrict myself to saving only after every big fight. The no manual save just seems like a huge hassle rather than a challenge.

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http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18121/?

This is neat but I'm all about that raiding, gonna rape and pillage me some Lucy Abernathy.

>>154311241
No, he doesn't and the rednecks are a tribe in themselves anyway.

>>154311247
I like Butch and sometimes Fawkes, I could never get the Gutsy to follow me in TTW either even with the right karma.

>>154311372
So were many of Fallout 3's
And New Vegas
and Skyrim

>>154311247
>Remember that skyrim had a lot of female companions, and most of them had no personality, besides Lydia(after all updates), Mjoll, Serana and Frea, which was a big step from fallout 3, but then bethesda still kept the GENIUS AND RETARDED idea of making npc's who had more personality than the vanilla companions out, and even the tease you, some of them are temporary companions.
The male comapanions also had fuckall personality in Skyrim, so I'm not seeing how your point is relevant.

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>>154311376
The Muties in 4 all sound like Ed. "No fight today" is almost identical to him.

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>>154310718
Know that your opinion is shit and against everyone else opinion, meaning something is wrong with you and only you, and that you are objectively wrong. The majority love those character, why don't you do? You are indeed baiting.

Plus those comment were severely biased.

>>154309739
What's going on with your skin, looks like you have Greyscale

>>154311538
Teldryn Sero in Dragonborn was great though.

>>154311540
>>>154310718(You)
>Know that your opinion is shit and against everyone else opinion, meaning something is wrong with you and only you, and that you are objectively wrong. The majority love those character, why don't you do? You are indeed baiting.
>
>Plus those comment were severely biased.
This entire post is the reason you should kill yourself.
>if you disagree with me it's bait!!!
>B-But lots of people like it so it MUST be good

>>154311435
Damn that's a nice waifu.

It really doesn't matter, play how you want.
Saving only at bedrolls is just faux-difficulty. If it makes you feel bad, just get a mod for saving when smoking cigarettes or using Holotapes to "write" an entry.

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>>154311540
He's not the only one who hates Veronica and Boone they're average and pretty generic.

>>154311538
Serana was the first companion they really made that had her own separate shit and personality but she also didn't want you to waifu her. Maybe they saw all the horrendous Lydia related mods and thought yeah lets make more males next time.

>>154311569
Raider leathers if you mean the shoulder.

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So... how about them Fallouts?

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>>154311090
>>154311241

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>>154294440
>doesn't know it's based on Mad Max and other 80's movies & comics with only the tech being 50's sci fi
>can't even spell Fallout correctly

>>154312095
Boone is only good for his hat

>>154312135
>necks are clearly red

Your point being?

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>>154309739
>>154311481
>Super Mutants with closed mouths

I really love the new design, but they're a bit *too* human.

>>154312143
>responding to shit from 4 hours ago
for what purpose?

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>>154310718
> Hating on my Whiskey Rose.
Fite me.

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>>154312410
niggaaaaaa

I want to actually ride in the Nuka Coaster in real life

>>154311663

was talking about females, most males were fine

heck, not even khalya or a female khajiit as follower

>>154312143

Everytime I see her, I just think about how her pee glows

I want to taste it

>>154311663
He was probably the only male companion i actually liked.

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>>154312119
I like that they put the masks on all the customers in the market/bar.

>>154312143
I'm surprised she hasn't died of radiation poison from sucking down the Quantum water at the bottling plant.

>>154312197
He makes the game incredibly easy.

>very hard modifiers only affect the player, thus Boone does full damage when you do minimum damage making him easily destroy early game threats.

>>154312276
I like them although there's a few small problems. They MUST have merged with 87s because some of them say "no green stuff here". The game makes it sound like all the supers came from the Institute though perhaps an oversight because it gives them a little depth if they're merging with the super dumbs from 87. They are definitely smarter than the 87s, not only can they fashion their own gear they also lay traps and speak a bit more and can address you directly. I don't like the lack of centaurs but it makes sense from the Institute only angle. If they were really merged with 87s then they should have a couple of centaurs, unless they didn't survive the journey.

>>154311809

Thanks. I'll go ahead and take a look at those suggestions.

What happened to the in-game ESP explorer mod?

Why is it hidden?

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>>154310718
Ok then, in that case...

>EDE: Beep bop pew pew pew.
>Lily: Sonny, you're such a sweet boy/girl. You remind me of my kids. I wish I knew where my kids were. I like my kids. *gets hit by radroach* REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Oops, sorry honey. What we talking about again. Anyways I do love my kids deary.
>Raul: "insert sarcastic comment in a Spanish comment"

>>154312143
The tech in Fallout is all over the place
80's in the old series
40's-70's with 3 and NV
1918-1938 in FO4

>>154312968
Those all sound fantastic.