/twg/ - Total War General

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It is now September. With the end of the summer months, The sallow season begins. Ros-fothar in the tongue of the Asrai, it is a time of waning. The Consort-King Orion weakens and rages against his fate, destined to be immolated on the pyre in the coming months. The forest undergoes a change of color from the vibrant hues of summer to more subdued and mottled shades of Autumn.

But if it is a time of waning, so too is it a time of harvest. The bounty of the forest hangs ripely, to be plucked effortlesly by the merry wanderers of its vales and meadows. How fitting, then, that in this, the first month of the season of harvest, the Wood Elves will make a bounteous gift of themselves, the latest and greatest of the factions to be released in Total War: Warhammer.

Wood Elves soon.

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Vlad!

What the fuck happened? I thought we disappeared

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-kql7cpcOo

>>154279130
I think OP got banned or something. I've seen it happen other times.

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Good job TWG you got pushed off the board.

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Please don't die
t. /mbg/

RIP

>>154278976
Worst elves soon.

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TILEA!

Are there any good mods for Empire: Total War?

https://youtu.be/2gCgluVD0Aw

KILL THE ORCS
SLAY THE ORCS
DESTROY THE ORCS!

>>154278761
Mannfred did nothing wrong

>>154279871
Ok Mannfred

>>154279871
fuck off manny

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SUMMON

>>154279945
I'M BUSY

Are we autosaged?

>>154279384
>be KKK
>believe protestants are master race and catholics are pagans
>adopt the garb of catholic knightly orders anyway

>>154279589
Anyone calling Wood Elves Worst Elves reveals themselves as not liking elves in the first place.

A true partisan for High Elves, who holds the Asur above all others, would properly revile their enemies, the Druchii.

Conversely, a player who has invested their heart in the Dark Elves has no business casting stones at Wood Elves when those stones could be hitting High elves in their insufferably shiny conical heads.

The people who slither from the attic to call Wood Elves Worst Elves in fact hate Elves to begin with- for Wood Elves are the most ideologically pure, closest to the classic "Elf" without other frills. It is the very bow-wielding tree-loving long-eared Elf that has been the staple of fantasy for a half-decade that they revile.

Wood Elves are called Worst Elves by those who are diametrically opposed to Elves, because they are the most Elven Elves. To restate matters more clearly, they are Best Elves.

>Trying to play Averland
>Making peace everywhere
>Help Stirland fuck up vampires
>Wissenland gets buttrekt over something and declares war
>Make peace with vampires and go home
>Wissenland ruined my perfect town
>Vampires get bored and declare war on me again
>Vampires ruin my perfect town
>Make peace with Wissenland and go defend my home again
FUCK IT, I'M GOING DOWN IN A BLAZE OF GLORY BEFORE WISSENLAND COMES BACK AND I'M TAKING EVERY VAMPIRE WITH ME, EVERYTHING IS GETTING RAZED

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>>154279945
A LOS

>>154280186
wood elves suck because they are close to the "classic elf"

They're generic and boring and most of all the fact that they're hicks but act all high and mighty is annoying

>>154280227
CONDES

>>154280186
>not liking elves in the first place
Good.
This is why Dark Elves are best elves - they're most inclined to kill other elves.

>>154280245
The rustic nature of Wood Elves is a key ideological part of their comfiness. Urban living is for dystopic societies like the Dark Elves or Skaven. Innawoods ruraldom NEETLIFE is why Wood Elves are the best faction.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>154280485
Elves as Atlantis or Elves as Canada are more interesting than elves as forestniggers

The overwhelming majority of elves in fiction are savages running through the forests having sex with deer to prove how much they love the earth mother or whatever while acting as the mouthpiece for retarded enviromentalist authors about how evil humans are for building cities

>>154280760
Wood Elves aren't exactly painting with all the colors of the wind, though. They are a far cry from an environmentalist mouthpiece and waste no time condemning humans. Humans barely factor in to what the Wood Elves are doing or what they are about.

Wood Elves have a poor sense of the past or future; most of them don't keep written records or think about what is going on outside the comfyforest. Why would you? They've got that inward-looking isolation some of the better cultures in human history have occasionally come close to achieving. They are so absorbed in their own pleasant existence that until their nose was literally rubbed in shit through constant gorposting they didn't bother to look to see what was going on outside their NEET lair.

Wood Elves don't have environmentally responsible development and industry. They don't have industry. They aren't industrious; they don't work. They have shota servants and magical-girls-in-training in their courts, and waste their time on esoteric pursuits that suit them. Their magical land has broken down the barriers of time and space and ushered in 2D paradise, and they dedicate all their attention to being absorbed in the bliss of their own existence, roused only to defend it because the outside world resents their comfiness.

>>154280227
BASQUE COUNTS GET OUT OF MY EMPIRE REEEEEEEE

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>>154281273
This nigga gets it.

>>154281325
Estalian*

>>154280178

Americans aren't very bright.

just refunded the grim and the grave

came to my senses again that i'm being jewed

>>154282907
>came to my senses after buying something I wanted

No fuckwit, that's called peer pressure. If you thought you were being jew'd in the first place you wouldn't have bought it. Now you have just changed your mind because you're austimo.

>>154282628
Are there even any historyfags left? This general is 99% warhammer now.

>tfw I hate this cartoony warhammer bullshit with a passion
>tfw there'll be 2 more overpriced warhammer games + dlc
>tfw you suckers will gladly buy that garbage and encourage SEGA to charge even more in the future

Total War is dead isn't it

>>154283064

Warhammer is a nice break from waging war in Europe, I just hope the next release is historical.

I'd kill for a 14th/15th century game.

>>154283064
You are 4 months late m8

Don't be faggot and talk about whatever you want, as long as it's TW related, somebody will talk about it

But for the love of god, don't bring religion, baptistanon may be lurking

Wow Warhammer dropped from over 80% positive ratings to only 64% in a matter of a few months.

This may be the first good Total War game since Shogun and CA still manages to fuck up their legacy with scummy DLC practises.

LOL
O
L

>>154283327
>Bretonnia Faction Finisher - $20 (Includes Mini-Campaign (Also they learn 'The Lady's Stance' (move through unpassable terrain))

>>154283297
Maybe one complete TW game would have been nice I'll give you that. But not three games. If they wanted to make a fantasy game so badly, why not make multiple different fantasy games every few years or so? Come on, a proper Lord of the Rings game would have been great. A Song of Ice and Fire too.

>>154283064
>hate some fantasy media with a passion

Loser.

>>154283610
Bretonnia is going to be free though.

>>154283661

Those two licences were too expensive.

Plus this gives CA a chance at a true passion project.

>>154283661
>A Song of Ice and Fire total war.

They could just make historical medieval game instead of wasting time on that shit.

Now that we have more fleshed out factions and beastmen, what's coming next?

>>154283981
New Lore of Magic, Wood Elves and fair Bretonnia.

>>154283763
with extra DLC units

(see grim and the grave)

>>154284171
Probably some time after the free dlc yes. Not much to add though, unless they don't add any new units with the free dlc.

>>154284242
Or if GW allows them to conjure up some totally new units for that matter.

>>154283942
Why not both? I agree that the low fantasy stuff doesn't make for very varied battles but neither would Medieval 3

>>154283818
Really? I know that the Tolkien Estate is quite strict but HBO lets basically anyone make a GoT game. Bethesda was even asked to make one.

>>154284242
It's still shitty. Announcing something as free and then making DLC's for it. It's getting out of hand.

CA has made a quality game to work with, why ruin it now?

>>154284657
>Announcing something as free and then making DLC's for it.


Wot? Have they announced paid dlc for Bretonnia?

>>154284242
they added two new units for the grim and the grave, the rest were just shit reskins with boosted stats

a right fucking rip off

>>154284756
No, not yet. I just replied to the anon who said it's possible. It was hypothetical. Don't panic just yet.

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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?

>>154284769
B-BUT CUSTOM SKELETONS AND ANIMATIONS

I know this is a troll but it's 6 new units and reskins.

>>154284769
Two LLs, two lords, 5 new units.

6 dollars is nothing really desu.

>>154283064
we are still here. only we don't act like spergs.
>total war is dead
then you should die with it.

>>154284993
>6 new units and two lords
>7,49€

>>154284519
Because ASOIAF is a terrible setting and held together by duct tape?

>>154284769
>because daughters of mars was such much better

>>154284912
Jesus christ. Don't complain about something that hasn't happened. You can start complaining when it has happened or when you got real empirical evidence of it happening. Fucking insane.

>Medieval 3 Total War
>HRE is a preorder bonus
>England is a DLC
>discovering America is a 20$ expansion

I don't want Medieval 3. Maybe Empire 2.

>>154285243
I didn't complain. I said it WOULD be shitty if CA did that.

>>154285183
>implying I bought any rome 2 dlc

>>154285180
And Warhammer isn't?

>>154285243
Whoa there champ. See you in 3 months when CA releases a Bretonnia unit pack for 5 bucks.

>>154285269
t. Johann

Knowing CA it will be more like
>american tribes DLC pack
>unlocks the eastern coast of NA, Mexico and central america and the tip of South america
>factions there have their own unique mechanics and objectives
>are moderately expensive
>you can still kill them and genocide them without paying a cent

>steam reviews will say how this is another shoah and have 500 mixed reviews.

>the reviewers will buy HoI4: Women in WW2 DLC and the Indian faces DLC.

>>154283320
>baptistanon
tbqh he is one of my fav. shitposters.

>>154285417
>why complain about things you don't own

>boohoo I bought the game on release and it had all 100% of what it said it included on the back of the box
>now they are releasing -additional- content
>waaaaaah why wasn't this in the game I chose to purchase full well knowing what I would get for my money

Fuck me, if this is the way human thinking is going we might as well skip forward to our end times.

>>154285180
>implying Warhammer isn't the epitome of standard fantasy

VLAD
VON CARSTEIN

>>154284992
The attractive of G and G was the liege lords included as well as lords like the Ghoul King

>>154285646
Because all of this shit could very well be in the base game for the same price. Maybe CA likes to act as if they're some sort of indie devs who need expensive DLC to survive, but surely putting out half baked garbage isn't the solution.

>>154284769
>Units using the same skeletons and animations are reskins
ok.

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>>154285468
Please fuck off back to /v/ or wherever you came from

>>154285646
Don't you actually have to own a game on steam before you can review it? Which would mean all the people bitching about beastmemes bought it anyway.

>>154280178
>be christian
>be racist

Wew lad

>>154285857
So a bit of content that took maybe a week to develop.

Sorry but that is the kimd of stuff that belongs into a well fleshed out vanilla game, not a DLC

>>154285468
Warhammer is a setting that was designed to sell TT games and has thematic armies that revolve around that in a unique D&D esque setting. The faction's identities are closely tied to their armies for the most part, like the empire's culture and history is based of the 16th century germanic states

>>154285661
>standard fantasy
>having the patrican aesthetics of arthurian england + medieval frace bordering Renaissance germany.

>>154285368
You didn't mention "would" at all though.

>It's getting out of hand

>>154285468
>Whoa there champ. See you in 3 months when CA releases a Bretonnia unit pack for 5 bucks.

I mean it's possible but the last thing we need is more complaining about nothing on /twg/. Not good for your brain.

>>154285661
>standard fantasy

At the time, barely.

Also

>Fantasy Landsknechts
>standard fantasy

>>154285879
Bretonnia will be in for free because it was supposed to be in the base game but they ran out of time to develop it

You say "it could be in the base game for the same price"

Well here's a secret for you- they continue to make extra content which in fact doesn't suck like Vlad and give it to people for free. Meaning in 2 or 3 years when all three games have come out the person buying it will get a bunch of extra shit that wasn't in game at release just packaged as part of the game.

>>154286073
>slapping Tolkienesque cliches, european folklore and a minimum of historic inspirations together
>WOW WHAT AN ORIGINAL SETTING

>>154286062
>Christianity is a religion about being nice
>doing mean stuff is not Christian

How do u like your post-modern skew on ancient religions famalam?

>>154286092
Okay, then sorry that I didn't express myself clearly.

>>154286254
When all three games are out, the people who followed the DLC and bought them all paid multiple hundred dollars/euros/whatever to get a complete game. Not fair at all

>>154286360
It's ok I overreacted too. Still we need to take it easy more

>>154286064
Where do retards like you come from anyway? Previous total war games had far less content at release than WTW yet charged the same fucking price. Further CA release shit like the brown wizard, bretonnia and Vlad for free so whiners like you who hate buying DLC can't complain that all the FLC is garbage.

And yet you still complain.

What the fuck do you want, a hundred dollar game that's 100% finished and will never have DLC? The DLC model exists specifically because the DLC money (on top of CA being a business which wants to make money, which will partially go on to fund the next part of the WTW trilogy, partially go to fund the next historical game and partially go to pay their own paychecks after all this is allocated by Sega) is used to justify the existence of the DLC itself, in order to create a better and more fleshed out game instead of just having one liege lord for each race.

>>154286073
>faux europe + vampires + fairytale creatures + tolkien races = good setting

Yeah sure.

>>154286571
>hundred dollar game
I'd even buy it for 120 and still only pay about half of what it will all end up costing.

>m-muh developers need money too
Stop it with that crap. Plenty of devs can charge less for even bigger DLC, so stop defending CA with this overused "argument"

Is there a good fraction unlocker?

I wanna play with some western dwarfs!

>Kingdoms expansion pack

>very few new unique factions
>many reskinned factions
>Doesn't add any new big features
>Maps that modders could make any time
>Doesn't fix a lot of the issues in the base game
>Didn't add any new stuff to the GC

Shitty deal really

Still liked it

>>154286623

>>154286265
>setting does it first
>others copy it
>Wow, the original is so unispired.

>>154286891
no fractions in the game, you could however play this game if you want fractions http://twinbeard.com/frog-fractions/

>>154286875
>plenty of devs
which ones?
>>154286891
there are race speciic unlockers online.

>>154287145
Good game. No Pontus Fraction though

>>154287184
>there are race speciic unlockers online.
I found one, lets hope it works with the latest update

>>154287084
No. Warhammer didn't do"it" first. The dwarven and elven factions are clearly from Tolkien. Vampires exist in this form since Dracula, also much older than Memehammer. The arthurian legend stuff is even older. Many things are taken from mythology dating back to the greeks and from european folklore.

The only "new" thing Warhammer did was adding more outlandisch races like lizardmen and skaven. And even lizardmen are inspired by real world cultures and not original.

So tell me, why is compiling a bunch of elements from existing works and sources something original?

>>154287383
good luck

>>154287184
From soft, CDPR, Bethesda, Rockstar, Bioware,...

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this thread isnt shiny enough

>>154287557
>dwarven faction is clearly from tolkien
I don't remember grudges and alcoholism as a part of tolkien
>elves
The tolkien elves are all about leaving middle earth for valinor.
The high elves in WH are all about playing world police to get maximum trade.

>many things are even older dating back to european folklore

and no one before GW used it in a cohesive setting.

Taking a bunch of ideas is not original. Having those cultures interact with each other and having meaningful non cardboard cut out relations in a shared universe is pretty damn important.
GW executed that just right.

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>>154287805

>>154287685
>FPS/TPS RPGS
>several of them are their own publishers
yeah, no.

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>>154287805
>>154287935

>Constantinople will never be christian again

>>154287880
Tolkien borrowed from (european) myth and folklore. Everything is eventually inspired by something else. The concept of ' original' as you propose it does not excist,

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>>154287935

>>154288071
>muh constantinople
ebin,

>>154287685
CDPR

"no"

They released two expansions with actual fucking content which are well worth their prices

All cosmetic DLC like new clothes, new armors, new weapons are FLC

>>154288071
Constantinople should be a demilitarized international free city-state desu. You can't trust the greeks and you can't trust the turks.

>>154280485
I'd love to live in a forest with mountains,rivers and wildlife. Adapting to the lifestyle and being manual and physically active in everything growing and harvesting your own vegetables, securing your own water source, hunting,fishing,fire building, woodcutting etc

Comfy tier. I get why thousands every year are abandoning the cities and heading innawoods creating rustic communities. Humanity has lost its way and grown fat and too dependable on easily available shit that could all disappear very quickly if the system broke.

>>154288203
But you can trust the russians

>>154287880
WH High elves are more like 1st age Tolkien elfs turned up to eleven, and the wood elves are like his "lesser" elf reces, the ones that chose to live in forests like mirkwood (and most never went to valinor in the first place, but were allowed to after the war of the ring).

Also Tolkien dorfs were far more agreeable and had a better relation with the elves than in WH. Wh's dwarfs are a bunch of miserable grumbling manlets on the highway to extinction, despite their advanced technology

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>>154288264
Are you trying to make me laugh?

>>154288225
That's anything but comfy

>>154288150
That's what i said, learn how to read.

Beastmen is the same price as Blood&Wine, need I say more?

>>154288113
>everything is derivative
>therefore blatant ripping off is cool.

t. blizzard entertainment.

>>154288456
>learn how to read.
I really should go and do that, yeah.
sorry

>>154287880
The silmarillion elves are exactly how you just described warhammer elves. And tolkien dwarves are also heavy drinkers. Fuck off.

>>154288316
The noldor were exiled from elfHeaven because they chose to follow Feanor and his autism to the ends of middle earth.

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Mordheim is on sale on Steam, does anyone know if it's a good game?

>>154283064

>>154283327
No its plebs that ironically have paid Actijew and parajew for DLC. That and potato users.
Also steam ratings mean fuck all. Steam need to put a system into place where someone that hasn't got the completion achievements on a game at normal difficulty or above can't ever review it.
>>154288071
Sure about that. Putin is being a smooth alpha operator with his dealings with Turkey at the moment. He's luring them into revealing their ISIS tier views and leave NATO so when Russia and Greece attack. NATO can't do shit.

>>154288552
Yes and they were also kinda dickish and slaughtered a bunch of other elves to take their boats while still on Valinor. Still nowhere near WH elves level of dickishness, except maybe feanor and his immidiate relatives

>>154288527
It's alright. Sorry for being mean tho

>>154286875
>they can charge less
>companies don't need money

You don't seem to understand, businesses do not work by getting the bare minimum of profit- they get the maximum profit their customers are willing to pay.

>argument in quotes

So you're basically retard, but we already knew that.

>>154283327
>Scummy DLC
It's all been fair so far. CA have been open and honest about their plans since before release and how their budgeting works. Remember GW is in control here not CA. They have the final say on everything.
>>154283661
LOTR is controlled with a vice grip by Chris Tolkien and extremely expensive. The younger family members likely would use the licence in the future.

ASOIAF would not suit Total War. Its mostly family drama with a bit of fighting. Grand strategy is better suited.

>>154288693
Nah, steam reviews mean a lot to developers. If a casual player looks through the steam store and sees Warhammer with bad reviews, will he buy it? No, he probably won't. So yes, CA are indeed shitting on their own game.

I agree that you shouldn't review until you put a certain amount of time into a game, but not until you completed it, that's just too long. 5 hours of total play time minumum should be the bottom line for reviewing.

>>154289060
Sure, it's also been very expensive so far. Not that the DLC are bad, but thanks to the additional license costs (can't imagine that Warhammer is a cheap license) the DLC are too expensive. And that's a shame since it's a good game.

>>154289060
Fuck off, I want the map.

>>154288547
>silmarillion elves are exactly how you described warhammer elves

No. The noldor are like that and they regularly get their shit pushed in because they left paradise because feanor wanted his silmarils.

>>154288361
Dane-bro

>>154289060
>LOTR is controlled with a vice grip by Chris Tolkien and extremely expensive. The younger family members likely would use the licence in the future.
Chris doesn't want the license to be used.
At all.

And it shouldn't. After the abortion that was shadow of mordor AAA shit should not touch tolkien.

>>154286497
>paying ten bucks on average per DLC over a period of 3 years as compared to paying over 100 dollars all at once

Please fuck off and kill yourself

>>154283610
>no Bretonnian waaagh!

Shit dlc no thx

>>154289332
Either don't buy the DLC or wait for a fucking sale

How hard is this to figure out?

>>154289332
I just think it's poor strategy to price them so high.
I genuinely think they could knock off a third of the price and get double the sales.

>>154289841
The game hasn't even gone on sale yet.

>>154288569

It's not fun

Also the screenshots are misleading, the graphics are complete ass

>>154289841
Holy shit just wait for a sale

If you really desperately wanted the DLC you'd but it now, if you don't care about the DLC then you're just bitching pointlessly about the price

What joy do you get out of bitching about shit you don't care about?

>>154289913
>>154290049
Stop harassing me

BA'AL HAMMON BE PRAISED

FROM THE DANUBE
TO THE RHINE
SKEET SKEET SKEET

>>154286254
Vlad is a carbon copy of manny though?

>>154289595
>Dane

That one goes into the book.

Danes are cool though

I just wish Vlad had different animations, why oh why does he have to use the sword and shield animations he looks so retarded

>>154290702
Is this supposed to be bait? He doesn't have access to the same magics such as lacking spirit leech and has more powerful regeneration than Mannfred as well as having completely different quests and completely different abilities as a general (entire army gets vanguard deployment).

This must be bait, I refuse to believe otherwise.

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Alright got a cheap key for this.Gonna be my first TW game.

Also are the orks in WH Fantasy and WH 40k the same?

>>154290831
I was talking about >>154290770 sorry

>>154290885
They work pretty much the same. The fantasy ones are not dakka maniacs though

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>>154286064
>3 Legendary lords
>2 lords
>5 Brand new units
>18 RoR's(probably less time due to being visually changed normal units)
>5 new battle maps
>3 new quest battles
>All for less than a packet of cigarettes in comparison Actijew charges £13 for 5 maps and Parajew charge £5 for a few extra portraits and music pieces.
>A week to develop
Oh you're such a naive troll. One race for example takes 6 months because its fully unique from architecture and skeletons to voices,sound effects and gameplay. Post content work began before launch there are 3 teams at CA. History,Fantasy,DLC. History is in very early concept stages and map design of a likely Victoria:Total War. Fantasy is working on Expansion 1 to Warhammer whereas DLC are currently working on 3 DLC's(paid and unpaid) for the base game likely to be Wood Elves,Greenskin and Dwarf lord pack and Bretonnia.

This isn't Rome 2.Shogun 2 or Attila with dozens of playable factions belonging to the same culture and literally reskinned with a few different shaped shields. A completely unique playable race with its own culture,style,architecture and units is worth 10 playable history factions sorry. If you want to play like that with renamed factions all of the same type. Plenty of mods unlock non playable factions or unit mods that flesh them out a little more.
>>154286497
So like every game currently out then?
Warhammer will be more expensive than the history games(no history game went beyond £65 DLC by end of support) simply because the IP is expensive and controlled by outside sources and the world itself is more expensive than our world simply due to the size and diversity of the warhammer worlds inhabitants and lands, not everyone is one type after all. it's only going to get even more insane with races like Lizardmen,Ogre Kingdoms,Tomb Kings and Skaven.

However Warhammer's ambition is grander with the largest game world ever made for TW and most diverse playstyles and races and I can't wait to be honest.

>>154289117
You can manipulate playtime on steam though. Completion achievements is the only way to ensure they played and completed it before reviewing it. You wouldn't review a movie after 20 minutes would you?

>>154290885
Goblins are actually relevant/exist in fantasy and orcs say "ladz" instead of "boyz"

Also the retarded "red makes it go faster muh psychic powers derived from collective belief" doesn't exist

>>154291246
that could easily be done in less than a week you delusional mong

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>tfw the nice borders are fucked up because of Kislev colonizing Ostland a turn after it's razed and the Empire blobbing

Hey understanders, what's the best way to counter Chaos chariots on legendary difficulty?

I'm playing as empire.
oh and don't get me wrong I do win the battles but the chariots rack up considerable kills on this difficulty and severely fuck up my formations leading to more casualties when the chaos footsoldiers arrive.
Currently using arty, halberds pikes and gunpowder ot try to bring them down but it's not fast enough. Knights have been able to stop them though but I don't have enough cav to fight off 6units of chariots

>>154291762
Best way is heroes in my experience. Net of amynthok helps a lot and luminark will wreck them if it hits.

>>154291762
light wizards work wonders. a steam tank or two on your flanks will fuck up the chariots big time.
Battlechickens with halberds kill them.

>>154291762
You're playing your battles on Legendary Difficulty too?

>>154292171
He has to. Legendary locks battle difficulty.

>>154292340
Ouch!

>>154290885

Appearance and behaviour wise, yeah. Main differences are:

>Goblins being somewhat prominent and having their own set of units
>No guns despite empire and dwarfs having gunpowder units
>Orcs rather than Orks
>No ork bullshit science, instead theres goblin technology
>Magic (most fun magic to use in the game right now imo, especially orc shamans)

Overall though, any 40k ork player/fan would feel right at home.

>>154289834
>sale
As if CA is doing meaningful sales you idiot. Even Attilla is still at full price after all this time. CA sales are a joke

>>154289719
>paying 100 dollar total vs. paying 250 total just because it's not all at once.
Retard

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On this day over 2000 years ago, on the 9th September, 9 AD the Romans suffered one of their greatest defeats, losing more that 16,000 men to a Germanic ambush led by Arminius a Roman trained German warrior, in the battle of Teutoburg Forest. This defeat would forever mark the Rhine as the border of the Roman Empire, as they never dared to venture across it again and instead built fortification along the entire river. This would later prove to be their downfall as 25% of Europe's entire population would cross this river 300 years later and destroy the Roman Empire. Teutoburg Forest will forever be known as a world changing event.

>Quintilius Varus, give me back my legions!- Emperor Augustus,Repeatedly said as he smashed his head against a palace pillar for over an hour inconsolable upon recieving news of the defeat.

>>154293345
what an autist lol

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116 hours into Warhammer I think I'm already burnt out. I've played long campaigns for all factions and 2x with the Empire and 2x with the Vampires.
I bought the new DLC thinking it would renew the fun but I only lasted for one Vampire count Campaign.

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GOR STRONG! GOR BETTER THAN HUMANS!

>>154293479
>That DoF
How? SweetFX? Reshade? GEM?
Care to share the preset?

>>154293429
All the greatest leaders in history were somewhat autismal

>>154293345
lol who cares. It's day!

>>154293460
>I bought the new DLC thinking it would renew the fun
Its just a couple of new units

We need a new faction with a complete roster this time

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>>154293535
photoshop, but I guess GEM can achieve something like that

>>154293626
rip 9-ball

>>154292826
Talking about Orc technology, so in fantasy there are no Mekboyz analogue that have technological know-how?

You said goblin technology, so you're saying the rokk lobbas and doom divers are goblin constructs, and the goblins are the engineers of greenskin society?

Because when I see Greenskin ships, they are quite sophisticated. They have paddlewheel propulsion (treadmill-powered, but still more ingenious than human oars). Their Hulks are armed with Harpax+Archimedes Claw+Corvus rolled into one. Drillakillas are overengineered, even; humans are content with simple ramming ships.

>>154283064
What's the point of burning out before AE comes out

>>154293479
>wake up on a nice frosty morning
>something smells odd
>look down
>i've been coated in black ink while sleeping
>again
fricking ungors...

>>154293658
> Photoshop
Thanks for getting my hopes up, anon :(
I tried GEM, the blur setting is nowhere near that shot, since it blurs almost everything on the screen. If I minimized it down fully, it does not do any blurring whatsoever.

I can't get any good preset or setting that can highlight the forefront units and blurs the back like yours. Colors, maybe, but not the DoF.

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mfw prepared for the bjornling invasion 30ish turns before it happened and now the bjornlings are walking straight into my armies

>>154291629
>t. programming pro

>>154293229
>paying 100 all at once

Versus

>paying 250 dollars spread out over 3 years

One is better than the other you 15 year old faggot

>Attila

Was literally 12 dollars during the summer sale, I'm sorry you're fucking retarded

>>154293460

>116h
>burnt out already

kys my man

So let's look at those "original" warhammer races shall we?

>le fantasy HRE
>le Arthurian knights
>le mexican lizards
>le tolkien elves
>le tolkien dwarves
>le narnia beast"men"
>le edgy victorian vampires
>le mongol shreks
>le green goblin orcs
>le demon bullshit straight out of dante's divine comedy
>le rat people with EPIKKK GUNZ BRUH
>le hussar wings "totally not poland" kislev
>le italian mercenaries

How plebeian

>>154295809
t. chris metzen,

>>154293986
I remember first time I played the game and picked Dwarfs. Had a slow start and when Archeon came to me at Zhufbar, he had 5 wounded troops with him which I killed off fast and then age of peace settled in.

I was so disappointed.

Plus Bjornlings actually helped by fucking up orcs.

>>154295863
You're just mad cause GW stole orcs and goblins from Blizzard.

>>154295809

>tfw they'll never expand on le fantasy ching chongs

>>154295809
>le mongol shreks

fuck, now I'm hype for ogres kingdoms

>>154296029
activision should sue them.
>>154296089
this
>this is MY badlands.

>>154296089
playtime is ogre.

>>154296043
I expect GW to fill every single fantasy cliche sooner or later. Get hype for

>le totally not african cat race with spears and stuff
>le badass magic mermaid people with super brains
>le honorable samurai bullshit warrior clans

In the future

>>154296475
but anon... they are all dead.

>>154296736
So is the Warhammer tabletop game.

>>154287935
That's not how you use pavises dumbass.

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SKELETONS

>>154295037
>played for 142 hours
>have only beaten the long Chaos campaign

>>154296089
IT'S MY MOUNTAIN

>>154295809
Apart they're stupid, but together they make for an interesting setting

Also Kislev is West+East Slavs

>>154295809
le fantasy samurai when?

My inner weeb demands it

>>154297090
>play as Settra
>repel orcs
>wait for Chaos and Vampires to blow their load
>then overrun the world and bring them all under my eternal rule and exterminate necromancers

>>154297353
They should absolutely do a Nippon pack and all it does is import Shogun 2 assets raw and hard
Additionally, the Nippolese Warriors can traverse the hidden "Bushido Paths" that are all over the Old World

>>154297353
Never m8

The setting is dead, it's all about age of sigmar now

>>154293460
Wood Elves at end of the month.

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Barak Varr is the biggest fraction, follow by Karak Azul, Greenskins are dead, Empire controls half of Brettonia, Brettonia holds Marienburg and VC are pushing up north. Hochland is a super power.

>>154293658
Are you using any injection like reshade in game before you photoshop it? I'm in the same case as >>154293814

>>154297353
This.I guess its when CA allows modders to import external models.

>>154297353
If GW decides they're making so much in royalties that they want to work with CA to work out the composition of warhammer's africa and asia to get more shekels

Otherwise the game will probably have things like Kraka Drak and Kislev but no Cathay

>>154295809
>le narnia beast"men"
>le demon bullshit straight out of dante's divine comedy

warhammer chaos is pretty heavily inspired by moorcock as well. GW isnt known for their originality

>>154297506
No, the nippolese would have a mechanic where if you have their armies too close together they suffer attrition as the samurai warriors test their strength against one another in honorabu combat

Also all of the samurai warlords hate each other and if you conquer too much of nippon then the realm will be divided and all other warlords will attack you

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>>154297545
They are gonna kill Archeon before he steps into the world, aren't they?

>>154297545
lol nice
I've had a bad streak of 3 games where Dwarfs became the #1 power by wiping the Greens early and owning the entire East and South East of the map

>>154297602
>make a race which are demons
>use historical depictions of christian demons

WHOA, blowing my mind here

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>>154297462
Would Khalida as a LL give bonuses to agents/versus vampires? she doesnt seem the type to go into fights since she chills at her spooky palace funding assassins and stuff and lets Settra do his thing

>>154297346
Well in my opinion Warhammer is about taking as many fantasy cliches and tropes as possible and putting them together as a lighthearted and fun setting. But the lore... is terrible.

>>154297884
She gives skeltan archers poison iirc.

>>154297975
>the lore is terrible

If the lore is terrible then tolkein is the only good fantasy and you're a snob

What's the longest you've seen Mousilon survive?

>>154297545
Estalia destroyed Bretonnia and Mousillon, Empire took Sylvania and Ostland, Kislev attacked Empire then got raped by vamps. Chaos Warriors attacked the Norscans and didn't touch anywhere else until Turn 108. Greenskins went straight to Tilea and Border Prince. Vampire Counts took Kislev over. Me the mountain Jew fortified the passes and just waited for my research and elite armies.

I love random campaigns.

Guys, can someone help a moron win the chaos campaign? I was awakening/raiding/destroying/sacking northern villages and northerm empires when sarthrorael (level 30) comes into play with 2 hellcannons, 2 giants, and most level 5+ units.

With the time given, I can only accumulate enough pop to build giants, or troll, or chosens,maybe some knights or cannons, but not all.

I tried having my awakened tribes/'ally' attack the army but none of them wants to do it. Most annoyingly, sarthorael just straight gunning for me and ignored everything else (and everything else ignored him too) and i lost the battle, and the campaign.

Is there any secret or tips/tricks to winning the campaign as chaos besides the ole git gud?

>>154298221
In my dwarfs campaign they took all of bretonnia, tilea, and estalia by turn 175 or so.

>>154298221
>currently playing dwarf campaign on very hard
>turn 175
>Empire has been destroyed by archaon and co.
>Mousillon now controlls the reikland and is quickly expanding to middenland and stirland

>>154297727
>if you have their armies too close together they suffer attrition as the samurai warriors test their strength against one another in honorabu combat

Sounds very unique

>>154298443
Autoresolve.

>>154298443
I kited him across the world, just ran and ran and ran. Sometimes he'd get distracted and take down some other enemy force, but mostly chasing me. He ran into Ungrim Ironfist and got killed. Problem solved!

>>154298504
Don't forget the samuraic corruption.

>>154298520
The autoresolve didnt exactly work in my favor, amigo. I have probably about 5-6 level 3 or so chosen units (of various types), hellspawns (playing as archaon), some poison doggos, probably axe thrower horsemen, chaos warriors, and probably a few forsakens...

Oh, also using that better autoresolve and unit compoisition mods...

>>154298645
What about Ashigaru followers? When you fight and win a lot of battles you get another stack following you. But you dont suffer attrition because your samurai refuse to fight lowly peasants

>>154298641
Hmm, every other enemies seems to ignore him for me and he did ignore them too and just run straight for me. Wouldn't the other faction simply be attacking you if you happen to pass by them?

>>154298645
>not ninja corruption

But you have to build temples to mamaterasu (OC goddess donut steel) to decrease the ninja corruption otherwise you will get rebels

>>154298865
The worst part is that i would still play them.

>>154289841
>I just think it's poor strategy to price them so high.
CA/SEGA/Games Workshop disagree with you

>>154298473
>>154298494
wtf
I've seen them last maybe 30 turns at best before getting kicked around

>>154298443
use cheat mods that make the chaos campaign feel like you are an actual demigod bringing about the end of the world

I did a chaos campaign the regular way first and its just much more tedious and less fun.

>>154298926
I was doing a lot of juking and dodging of them too. Stuck to the coast so I could hop on a boat, seemed to help shake them sometimes.

>>154299006
Their unit roster would still be unique even if their special racial campaign features would just be renamed features from other races

>>154299175
This happens as soon as you get to build Chosen though.

>>154299175
Which cheat mod are you talking about here, friend?

>>154299320
free upkeep, no attrition when hordes are too close, faster growth

>>154299320
everchosen cheat mod

>>154299278
So are you supposed to just avoid them enough instead of taking them on? I'm confused.

>>154299317
Is Chosen that super duper op over other infantry types? i have my chosen spear (one unit) got wrecked by two dwarf warriors, so it seems only fair.

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>>154299159
Still here in my current campaign but I'm working on it

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Stupid bird, charging my army alone with 8hp...

>>154298258
>I love random campaigns.
They are the best. I am going to go back to Ziflin now, get an army of Ironbreakers and wait for Archeon

>>154299524
>So are you supposed to just avoid them enough instead of taking them on? I'm confused.
Nah but if you're underprepared like me you gotta do what you gotta do scrilla scrilla baybe

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>>154299664
Chaos btfo at turn 144, 4 turns after Archaon. Age of Peace two turns after.

>>154299524
Chosen with gw absolutely demolish Dwarf Warriors, but I guess the legendary AI gets buffed way too much.

>>154299524
you pretty much run away from everything until you can build and afford better armies

>>154299847
>age of peace
>vampires exist

>>154299927
>>154299991
Sorry, I already said I'm a moron. I'm playing on hard (with battle on normal). Dont h8.

I usually do run from everything but I thought by the time sarthorael comes, the game 'assumes' my army is strong enough..I only have one army since I cannot support more than one with tier 2+ units...

>>154300793
But what could possibly be more peaceful than death anon? Not even the sound of breathing and heartbeats would disturb the peace.

>>154300873
This may be your issue, with Chaos, you will be balls deep into the negative income, trying to stay on positive upkeep means your army will be shit

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Interesting, mousillion actually doing something other than dying. I hope they keep it up so I've got something to do in the south.

>>154300873
Dude, by the time Sarthorael spawns you should be rolling in dosh. I had enough money to support an 8k deficit by then.

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Why do I love Vlad so much?
It's pretty simple when I think about it.
Vlad isn't just the best character in the Warhammer world, he might just be the greatest character of all time.
Just imaging him riding through the swamps of Sylvania, the wind in his hair, his mighty steed below him.
As he rides through the World's Edge Mountains, the Lahmians swoon at his very scent.
They know how he smells, the essence of his smell is sold in Marienburg under the the name of "Carstein Orgasm."
The very nature of Vlad is mystery.
Could he be playing a deeper game than even his creator realizes?
The answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and has free will to do whatever he sees fit.
However, Vlad is filled with such guile, such arcane craft that he does not even use these powers.
Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of the Vlad is not one that is easily penetrated.
Vlad is such a force of nature in his realm that nothing can truly touch him, the only thing keeping him bound to the page at all is his will to exist within the preordained boundaries of his world.
Vlad is not only beyond the comprehension of us, he exists within a plane of true focus and beauty.
Observe his playful smile, his gorgeous and rippling biceps, his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes.
His eyes, like pools of saffron, provide the only glimpse into the true machinations of Vlad. Do not stare into them. Many good men have gone mad in the attempt.
Vlad is not just a character, a formless collection of words and images, he is himself is the binding that holds the Warhammer world together.
Without Vlad, the entire Warhammer world, the entire Games Workshop as we know it crumbles.
The Reik would stop flowing without Vlad, Athel Loren would become a desolate crater, and Norsca would melt without his frosty gaze.
These are just of a few of the reasons why I like Vlad so much.

>>154301142
>>154301539
I should've said earlier that I do not have problems with money (have about ~60-70k) and deficit of probably 1k (close to 2k). Army composition isn't as shit, but definitely not as godly tier as sarthorael's army.

Maybe I need to step it up and get all chosen units (or whatever highest tier I can) and go broke?

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G O B L I N S

>>154301142
Gotta raid to pay the bills...

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>>154302672
You should have several units of chosen in your main army, and give the shittier units to another army. Pic related was my situation when sarthorael came to fuck stuff up. Three armies, and all had at least chaos warriors.

>>154302835
Gobbers a shit

>>154302948
Dang, and you got all 3 LL in there, I can barely get one unlocked before sarthorael comes into play.

I have about 5 chosen in my main army, but I only have one army since I worry too much about the money/deficit.

I guess i'll restart the campaign then. How fast do you have to be to get all 3 LLs? Or you use mod/cheat?

>>154298221
Turn 200 to the short victory condition as VC, partly because Iegged Kemmler over there for quest battles and helped them out with stuff

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FETCH ME MY MIRROR SHIELD

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1, 2, 3, 4, I declare a race war!

>>154303340
It would be interesting to see how a game would go if everyone started at war with everyone.

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>>154303340
skullsmashers rushing ahead to get wiped out

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>>154303173
My way of getting all the LLs fast was starting with Archaon, building Dragon ogre gathering for Kholek after getting warriors (destroying the marauder building to lower growth cost), and then fucking around in Norsca for Sigvald. Also skilled all lords for growth to get new hordes fast, and let the newest horde raze shit for growth after the main army sacks it. You don't necessarily have to start over though, you can probably get more hordes pretty quickly and with 70k you have a comfortable buffer. You'll soon be swimming in money when you go further south, pic related.

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>>154303636
[hysterical laugher]

>>154303278
THIS ACTION DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT

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>tfw can't bring myself to play "evil" races and destroy civilisation
Guess i'll play the empire campiagn for the sixth time

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>>154304559
Anon was weak, witness TRUE POWER

>>154304559
Aside from treefuckers and High Elves, everything else is gonna be all evil from here on out too.

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>>154303959
Oh, du schöner weissenland..

>>154304559
You should get over it. Causing mayhem and destruction is fun.

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BRAVO CA

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>>154304751
Marienburg has a stack out of its city. I'll take it.

>>154304559
Play vampire counts, start as vlad, and try to be as nice to everyone as possible until they turn on you out of their own fearful weakness
then you will be comfortable wiping them out

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>taken control over all the empire
>made vassels of all willing imperial states.
>now getting ready to meme on Archeon as he comes out of his stupid wasteland

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>>154305069
Vlad is a nice guy t'bh

>>154305218
that's actually pretty impressive

>>154305384
Mine has "Consuming Thirst" and "Sober" at the same time so far
Kemmler likes humans which was unexpected

>>154304641
D-do not mock me!

>>154304812
Only when karak norn declares war and sacks your villages, then i don't feel bad at all when i destroy their cities.

>>154305069
i'll give it a try, thanks

>>154304812
What about lizardmen?

>>154305635
Play dwarves. They are also civilized and good

>>154305635
Karak Norn declared war on me really early in my empire campaign but I beat them back and eventually made them into allies, and they just ran around in reikland/marienburg dealing with norsca incursions and things like that
was comfy
Main dwarfs faction got wiped so they couldnt be condfederated

>>154285539
>crusades are still buggy and shit in Crusader Kings II
>Paradox releases more buffs for norse and feminist dlc

FUCKING SJW NIGGER LOVING COUNTRYMEN RÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

>>154304559
Same here

>>154304710
Tomb Kangz aren't pure evil.
Lizardmen are good
Brets too.

>>154278976
Beast dick intensifies...

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Which faction has the hardest starting position in Rome II?

Which faction has the hardest starting position in Attila?

>>154306556

Epirus
WRE

>>154304751
Mein bruder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky-zdHMNFNM

>>154306194
Stop reminding me of CK2 and its viking fetish, I'm getting angry at the memory of it.

>>154304751
>>154306746
SOLDAT FUCK OFF AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Germans are what you get when you mix Neanderthals and Slavs

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What is the best game for removing Kebab?

Atilla, Rome, Rome 2, or Empire?

>>154305218
Out of curiosity, do vassals get their AI bonus? (at least the public order one)

So I just picked up Medieval 2: Total War.

On disk.

Without the DLCs.

But hey, at least it only cost £3. Time to find a torrent I guess.

>>154307538
You can use the CD key to redeem a copy on steam.

>>154305784
>Trusting Karak Norn
I see you enjoy living on the edge...

>>154307464
Probably Medieval 2 with a modsie wodsie

>>154307616
They're usually good allies once you've shown them who's boss in my experience.

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>>154306746
>tfw everyone in that video is probably dead

I can't wait to kill krauts a third time.

>>154307575

That's fucking magical. I'll try it right now.

>>154307503
Yep, they get the public order one. Id imagine they would get the morale buffs aswell.

Another fun thing about Vassals is that if you and your vassal both own separate parts of the same province, it counts as you owning the whole province and you can still issue and commandment for it.

>>154303658
Sacking gets you 42k, wtf? I guess I'll try and keep going then. Thanks, anon!

>>154307616
Ziflin are the real shitters
they apparently were the vassals of lyonesse who were my vassals and they declared war on me somehow through all of that

>>154307575

Okay, in theory, if I just copy over everything in my regular Medieval 2 game folder to my Common steam Library then fix the installation it'll take half as long, right?

>>154308057
If it's a rich/high level city and you have the right followers etc. then yes, you can get over 40k. I'm pretty sure I got even more from some cities (50-60k), but I don't have pics. At one point I had 1,3 million from sacking when I was going for the long victory. I probably should have stopped sacking before then and just razed.

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>>154303278
>>154304396

2 thinga would make me reinstall the game

>Bretonnia
>Wood Elves

So, when will they get here?

>>154308681
month or two.

>>154308681
Two months I expect. They might wedge in something minor between them though, so perhaps 3 months.

>>154308681
>reinstall
There are people that uninstall games?

>>154308962
Yea. If I haven't played a game in years, I'll uninstall it until the urge hits me to play it.

There are staples I won't uninstall though. I still have Shogun 2 kicking around.

>>154309370
>Total Warhammer came out years ago
Damn, I feel old.

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>its a Vampire lord quest has you deploy a hero half way across the world episode

>>154309493
>Yesterday was 10 years ago

What the fuck

>>154309370
I have games I haven't played since before I got this computer installed, and I've only ever uninstalled games I know I will never play again. As a consequence I have about 1.5GB of games installed.

>>154308153
>Ziflin
They are the biggest bros ever.

>>154309586
>This morning was last millennium
This meme tho...

>>154309534
funny isnt it?

So i need to start a new game to get all the Dogs of War, Flagellants and shit?

>2v2
>playing beastmen vs greenskin and empires
>pick 3 greatweapon centigor and a poison dire wolf pack
>vanguard deploy on edge of their flank
>instantly snipe two groups of orc boy big uns trading the dire wolves
>host alt+f4s

>>154309534
Mannfreds is the worst, but the others arent so bad
you just need to make sure you keep your hero in the pillar of bone for stage 2

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>>154309534
>it's the third re-run this week

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Welp!

It took me 231 turns but I finally finished the Dwarf campaign on VH difficulty.

the early game was probably the hardest part of it all. Having to fight back several orc tribes when you can only afford to have about 1 and a half stacks.
I was very prepared for the bjornling invasion so it wasn't a problem what so ever. Archaon and Bird were a nuisance though.

Ironbrakers are op

Fuck Tilea

>>154310158
>Over 200 turns
>VH
>SCW
Really not trying to steal your thunder here mate, but thats just sad.

>>154310158
The dwarf campaign is way shorter if you rush north fast, to take the two gold-mines there. They will fund at least another army, which will let you take the third gold mine in the south, and so on. That will also put you in a position to kick Archaons ass as soon as he arrives.

>>154291246
>someone in /twg/ speaking logically
it's... so beautiful..

>>154310298
haha holocaust jokes guise

>>>/pol/

>>154310298
Please don't post that roided sperg here. It's bad enough that people post him on /fit/.

>>154310581
It's too bad they've stopped selling lottery tickets today.

>>154293460
>played over 240 hours
>only fully finished 1 campaign
>never played greenskins or chaos and don't own beastmen
casuals these days

>>154310490
I was forced to turtle at around turn 150 because of the chaos invasion, then I couldn't get under 9 grudginess meter because of a tilean army that attacked me way earlier in the game and that grudge was now worth 10 grudginess. So I had to chase down a tilean army on the other side of the world with the good ol' fashion forced march until they got to a corner.
About 40-50 turns was wasted on chasing armies that wronged me because dwarfs just can't fucking chill out a bit.

>>154311014
>So I had to chase down a tilean army on the other side of the world with the good ol' fashion forced march until they got to a corner.
The agent ability "Block Army" is your friend

>>154310554
My dawi brethren had the north under control and the greenskins never confederated north. I only really went north after I killed archaon.

>>154311118
You should confederate north the first chance you get desu.

>>154311282
my dawi brethren hated me with a fucking passion