/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

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First for how the fuck did this guy lose two fucking games with this deck

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what stats and mana cost would make this work?

does this mean (crew) poster is actually reynad

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just accidentally played pagle in fatigue and won anyway

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First for moving to weebverse

I fucking love Reynad

>>154251106
Any advice for starting out on this game? I'm about to download it, HS has me on tilt tonight

>>154251106
What's the recommended emulator?

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What deck beats midhunter the most? I'm seeing so goddamn many holy shit.

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>playing tempo mage against zoo
>he has lethal on board
>play Babbling Book
>get Flamestrike, and wipe his board
>he taps himself into lethal range for Pyroblast, which I got from a previous Babbling Book
mfw

>>154251495
zoo

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>>154251368
Pick a class and have fun. I'm enjoying Shadowcrafft myself atm.

The game wil lgive you a ton of free packs, gold and the equivalent of dust, and some legendaries as well right now, so really jsut try stuff up.

Also arena is nice, you do 5 games and try to have the most win out of 5 possible. You will get like 4-5 arena pass easily so try it out

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r8 my deck

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Hearthstone News

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20271286/hearthside-chat-upcoming-arena-changes-with-dean-ayala-9-8-2016

Arena Bans

>Mage
Forgotten Torch, Snowchugger, Faceless Summoner

>Rogue
Goblin Auto-Barber, Undercity Valiant

>Paladin
None

>Shaman
Vitality Totem, Dust Devil, Totemic Might, Ancestral Healing, Dunemaul Shaman, Windspeaker

>Warlock
Anima Golem, Sacrificial Pact, Curse of Rafaam, Sense Demons, Void Crusher, Reliquary Seeker, Succubus

>Druid
Savagery, Poison Seeds, Soul of the Forest, Mark of Nature, Tree of Life, Astral Communion

>Warrior
Warsong Commander, Bolster, Charge, Bouncing Blade, Axe Flinger, Rampage, Ogre Warmaul

>Hunter
Starving Buzzard, Call Pet, Timber Wolf, Cobra Shot, Lock and Load, Dart Trap, Snipe

>Priest
Mind Blast, Shadowbomber, Lightwell, Power Word: Glory, Confuse, Convert, Inner Fire

http://www.hearthhead.com/news=255768/blue-tweets-brode-talks-rng-improving-communication-and-yogg-saron

Ben Brode tweets regarding the state of the game and rng in tournaments

>randomness that occurs before decision making is generally good for introducing more problem solving. It can increase skill.
>because without randomness, you only need to solve the problem once and then execute over and over. See Chess
>when a card's effect has randomness, it can sometimes feel like there was not decisions to be made afterwards. Esp. if last played.
>when it ends game, it's an easily referenced point and the game can feel like it was not decided by skill, which can be frustrating
>regardless of how many decision points were made throughout the match
> but a less skilled player would have lost the ability for a window in which being lucky would have saved them much faster.
>hard to identify those decision points that led to giving your opponent an "out". Easy to notice randomness in a card effect.

TLDR; Brode likes random effects on a fuckton of cards because having a meta where the most skilled player consistently wins is cancer

>>154251857
needs thalnos

>Blizzard managed to create ANOTHER multi-million video game, and is now killing it just like all the ones before it.

How can a company be so asinine.

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advice on my reno healadin? any suggestions beyond what I have?

I literally just want a specifically paladin deck with reno that just tries to survive and eventually play big shit and justicar. that just sits there and runs aggro decks out of cards by continuously killing shit, mostly by hero powering and playing minions that trade and heal at the same time, with reno as the nail in the coffin healer.

the fucked up thing is I've been having a blast playing it in casual today and have been destroying meta decks in there, midrange hunters and aggro shamans and zoolocks etc. like, it's actually been performing quite well. if your answer is gonna be something along the lines of "hurrr durrr it's casual even if they use meta decks with good curves each match it doesn't matter because muh ladder you just won cause they suck" then in all honesty i might just stick to playing casual since i'm actually having fun for once.

main thing i wish i could add in there would be rafaam as a finisher, would help a lot against control, but i think that might be too greedy. the meta is so heavily aggro-focused right now, i want to focus on beating them.

>>154251884
I hope every rng card gets cut from the game so every one of you 'pro' shitters can go on to complain about card draw rng and continue in your own hell

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>>154251884
>because without randomness, you only need to solve the problem once and then execute over and over. See Chess

Holy fuck how can one man be this retarded

>>154251915
The synergy looks nice.

>>154252418
how is he wrong

>>154251857
>one single gold card in the entire deck

Fuck you
Either quit being poor or switch it out

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>>154251368
>Any advice for starting out on Shadowverse

READ THIS

First off chose a class you would like to make a deck.

>Shadowcraft is like playing with 40shredder.dek
>Swordcraft is aggro shaman.
>Runecraft is tempo mage.
>Dragoncraft is Druid with 6 Wild Growth.
>Bloodcraft and Havencraft are Priest tier with some control or midrange builds, you know what to expect

The best classes are Shadowcraft and Swordcraft because both are the CURVE classes.
Control is dead.

Then you log, do or skip the tutorial and you get several packs and 2 Legendaries.
By linking your account to google (then you can unlinkin it to reroll), making a deck, getting into a game in solo mode (and then you just quit) you get even more packs.
You can get 24 packs this way.

Then you open all packs, if you get no legends, or shitty legends you go and clear app information, and then do everything again until you get the legends you want for the class you want to play.

For example pic related, I rerolled several days until I got Golden Aurelia, Regular Aurelia and Golden Otohime, both Swordcraft legends.
Once you get a good roll, you link again your game with google and that way it will never be lost even if your phone dies or some shit.

>>154252516
Because unless you're working on literal computer levels of logic, chess is a game of intuition and reading your opponent's strategy.

There's no 100% correct choice to make at all times if you're a regular human being.

>>154252669
Thank you, I'll definitely do this

>>154252669
>The best classes are Shadowcraft and Swordcraft because both are the CURVE classes. Control is dead.

Why the fuck wouldn't I just keep playing Hearthstone then if it's the same fucking thing?

>two free legendaries
>unpack the prince of darkness anyway
Rigged

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>>154252834
You can also play on Bluestacks, the pc emulator, however it may have some issues depending on your PC perfomance. Then there's an issue on Solo Mode with the Vampire guy, some PC's crash on his encounter.

For decklists check this place http://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/

For reroll details:

1. Install the game 500 MB
2. Skip the 3 Tutorial Maps. (Upper Right Button)
3. Click Story Mission then Escape (Do it Later)
4. Retrieve Mail Box and Link Account for Extra Packs.
5. Unlink Account (To prepare for next the reroll.)
6. Roll 10+ Packs and Gold.
7. If you get 4 Legendary cards continue! (If not, Shadowverse "Clear Data" Android Settings)
9. If you got 4+ Legend, Go back and do 1 Story Mission for 1 Extra Booster.
8. After Solo Mission, Create Deck for 1 Extra Booster.
9. If you get a 5th Legend, keep account and try for more or be happy with it.
10. The two steps below should only be done if you have 5+ Legendary
12. You can also play 1 Rank match for an Extra Booster.
13. You can also get more 2 More Boosters from doing Daily Quest and Missions.

>>154252952
Because there's nearly 0 RNG, but their dominance is mostly because they are the cheapest and easiest to make.

All the other classes have plenty of board clears and can lock you out of the game really easily if you don't play around that shit and go all in without a back up, but since they take a while to build because they are far more expensive and use more legends, you don't see them very often until Rank 5 or so in HS terms per say.

They are viable, just not viable for a newbie and you will not get very good results.

>>154253740
So when you said "control is dead", you just meant there's no way you can make a budget control deck early?
It's actually viable if you have the cards? Because if I play this (I siltl have to wait for Steam) I don't want it to just be aggro deck after aggro deck like here. I want it to be a Rock, Paper, Scissors thing.

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creative and fun card design

>>154249926
>testing an aggressive peddler rogue list
>6 warriors in a row, including a patron
>switch to control shaman since it shits on warrior
>first match is priest

when does it end, /hsg/?

>>154253740
But RNG makes hearthstone fun, though. It's not the RNG that bothers me about HS but Blizzard's complete and utter lack of competence when it comes to balancing the power level of cards. Shaman is a prime example of this, shit like 477 and 055 and doomhammer/spirit claws aren't even random but they're fucking retarded.

It'd be more productive to talk about the balancing of the power levels of the cards in shadowverse comparatively.

>You will never be an enterpreneur l ike Reynad
>tfw you're from a traditional family of workers who teach you to just work like a fag for 8 hours a day otherwise you're not doing anything with your life
I want to kill myself

>>154254014
Jesus christ shut the fuck up literally no one cares

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>>154254425
apherently you do

>>154254014
but priest lost lightbomb so you win by making a high mana intensive play

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>>154253942
>So when you said "control is dead", you just meant there's no way you can make a budget control deck early?
>It's actually viable if you have the cards?

Yeah, for example right now if you log to play on ladder on the lowest newbies levels, all you face is more than 50% Swordcraft without legends or only a few, like 30% Dragon Ramp with the promo gift legends or subpar Rune/Haven/Blood/Forest decks.

On higher ladder there's a lot of Sword trying to get "legend" easly, Spell Runecraft is legit good (plays similar to freeze mage or tempo mage depending on the build), Control bloodcraft is legit good, and combo decks based on the Purgatory card are really good.
The only classes with like one viable build that are not doing great right now is Havencraft because the class is like Taunt over Taunt until you draw Satan and win, and Dragons because you're mostly dependant on drawing your ramp or losing.

I even forgot to mention initially the Forest class.
Which is basically the control and combo class, like rogue but actually good.

>>154252142
...a-anyone?

>>154252669
Thanks, but my question is why don't I just play zoo lock instead?

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How far? The game didnt really give me two drops...

>>154254825
Fuck off back to le rebbit you faggot cunt
>muh reno memo cripperino deck is cool guise rite xD??

>>154253947
the only thing the portals and kara kazham did was buff yogg

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>>154254674
To be more clear, at the start you have very little choise but to play curve or tempo cheap decks until you gather enough dust or get lucky with rolls to make the good control decks.

This leads to LOT of people playing the same tempo curve decks at the same time on low ladder which alienates some people.

Then once you get your control deck build, you have to climb a lot and play a lot of tempo curve decks on low level until you get to high level with a variety meta and people making meta calls and shit.

Some people can't just stomach that even if the badly build tempo decks are free wins.
Take the /mobage/ general as example, 100% of the players there are stuck on low ladder and hate the cheap curve meta there, but don't have the patience to climb.

>>154252142
>>154254825
No because nobody cares about your wild deck you've been playing in casual and you should suck my dick gayboy, you'd probably be into that

>>154255107
3-5 wins cause of weapons and luldaman

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pls blizz.

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>>154250108
>turn 4

>>154250108
Probably by not drawing those particular cards on these particular turns.

>>154255171
How much would it cost to buy into shadowverse

>>154256115
kys

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>Wipe his board
>Portal his face
>Holy Fire his face
Oops

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Are the energy mummies the coolest race?

>>154251435
nox or bluestacks
bluestacks is faster but nox is more stable

>>154257241
Second best. Right after Nerubians.

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Whispers pack. What's it gonna be!!

>>154257487
Boogey, friend.

>>154257487
Fibre Lite tm

>>154257487
SOGGOTH

>>154257241
finally a way to beat 120 health in fatigue

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>>154257550
>>154257601
>>154257624

It's dust!

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>>154256574
i am playing for like 1 month and have almost a full collection so there is that
Free to play BTW

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>>154257090
this fucking deck

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>>154257374
Make it summoned and here you go.

>>154257798
Jesus christ that sucks
Do you work for Blizzard?

>>154257798
add stealth or something

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>Golden rank 16 priests

>>154257798
Make this put a copy of the card in your deck or something, otherwise it's gonna need a deck built around it and even then it'd be okay at best

>Watching some HS highlights youtube video
>It shows Kripp
>He looks like he's about to cry
Jesus christ, what is this game doing to people?

>>154258280
Have you seen the Rey of Nards?

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>when you win at the casino

>>154258280
Du yourself a favour and don't wach any of thijs' streams from last week.

>>154258328
>>154258885
Did they all cry?

I mean, it seemed like just people topdecking was enough to get some guys upset. Shouldn't they be used to that by now in a card game?

>>154258656
>n'zoth yogg control warrior
That's some spicy meme friend

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post fun OC cards.

>>154259021
I'm just listening to tempo storm :(

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>>154258175
part 2 electric boogaloo

what causes this autism? he lost because he played yogg in fatigue drawing him 6+ cards

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Suck my fucking dick Druid

>>154253947
they need a card that summons a 5/5 and a 1/1 for 5 and one that summons two 3/3s

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Ben quits and this man join the dev team. What happen?

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Moroes is a good card and can singlehandedly win control vs. control games

Prove me wrong, fags

>>154259786
3 mana deal 1 damage to all minions

>>154259786
>Play Yogg
>he takes control of my credit card
>buy Fallout 4
God damn it

>>154259786
as someone else said, the only relevant match up happens to have the perfect answer for it

>>154259874
1 mana give a minion +2 health and draw a card

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSUe_-3PIFk

Dead thread for a dead game.
It's like poetry.

>>154260218
it's like 1 am

>>154260218
If anyone start a Shadowverse general I'll gladly join

>>154260273
> /mbgg/

>>154260273
would it be better to have a general for online card games

>>154260449
I dont get it

>>154260461
>>154260536
/mbgg/ or mobage general is the shadowverse (and other jap phone games) thread.

Online card games general is not possible since the yugioh fucks, the guys in this general, and the few shadowverse players would not get along.

>download shadowverse
>it's a VN
What the fuck

>>154261102
>he doesn't use the skip button
What the fuck

>>154261102
>download a weeb game
>get a weeb game

Really makes you think

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>>154261102
Kripp... lied...

Who's the most bro streamer and why is it Reynad?

>>154261424
mryagut

>>154261534
love that guy's accent. what is it?

>Play some casual games for Tempo Mage
>Lose matches due to wi fi problems

Sometimes I hate life

>>154261424
its dog

>Justicar makes warrior's hero power go from 2 armor to 4 armor
>It makes priest's hero power heal go from 2 to healing 4
>It only makes hunter's hero power go from 2 to 3 damage

Why?

>>154261609
german

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Soulfire into Silverware Golem on turn 2 was apparently too much for him

>>154261609
aids

>>154257956
I don't know if you mean its underpowered or just sucks. I think that is a pretty cool card, imagine all the ways you can get cards back in hand as rogue it'd be easy to get 4 mana 7/7s and 4mana 10/10s are possible.

>>154258962
This game is fucking sick on your brain, I swear multiple people cry at every tournament. Frozen cried even though he eventually won.

>>154261424
Dog is slightly comfier because of no curse filled outbursts but his fanbase is honestly worse though. Reynads doesn't force the shirtless meme like Dogs, which is becoming lame and was always gay.

>>154258280
Link please?

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What does Hearthstone have that Shadowverse doesn't?
I've heard the salespitch of either game. One is "we're going to give you a healthy starting collection of cards to sell you the game you're playing." The other is "we're going to pretend that this is exactly the same as a TCG and only give you what amounts to a starter deck. If you want more, you have to do obnoxious dailies (because those totally aren't killing wow or anything) for a few months." This game isn't just bad; it's bad in a way that makes me actually feel like doing anything but play video games. The last video game that did that was some sci fi clone of Evony Online.

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Who else /30LegendaryDeck/ here?

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>play casual to do shitty quests
>get highrolled by barnes 3 games in a row
>dragon warrior nut curves me

thank you for reading

>>154261424
Kripp and Firebat mane

>>154261740
damage =/= healing

>>154262138
dragon warrior on coin is disgusting and theres nothing you can no

>>154261740
Damage is more powerful than healing in most cases

The Warlock and Shaman Justicar upgrades suck dick though

>>154262058
>Not /35LegendaryDeck/
step it up anon

>>154261740
Why do you think? Just think about it for like 4 seconds. If the numbers don't match when there's a pattern, one of them being less than the others, what does that mean?

>>154259036
This kills the Warlock
>>154262281
Oh that's right, it's actually 35 when i play, my bad.

>>154262324
Are you implying the 4 armor for warrior is not as broken as 4 damage for hunter would be?

>>154261740

>Consistent 4 damage for 2 mana a turn
>Balanced

I hear Blizzard's hiring bro

>there are people that believe you haven't already lost the game playing a 6mana 6/3 as hunter

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>>154262358

>Decide to play my Yogg Mage for fun
>Face a paladin who uses Malcheezar and stuff all his legendaries into his deck like Eydis Lightbane, Nat Pagle, Lorewalker Cho and Eadric the Pure
>Decide to mess around and intentionally miss lethals and actually had fun

For once I actually had more fun than usual, except when murdering a filthy cancer shaman I suppose

>>154262195
yes i love taking 9 damage from a 2 drop

>>154262697
Glad youre having fun being a bully anon

>>154262492
You haven't nessecarily. Hunter can get away with playing the barnes/Y'shaarj combo only because it has high damage output. If anything this deck is a testament to how effective the hunter skeleton is. It tpyically wins not by pulling off that combo, but through companion + bow and playing call of the wild. That's it. Usually it's a worse version of almost every hunter, but it still wins with like 4 cards and the button. The hero power pulls the whole deck.

>>154262812
Is it more bullying to intentionally not play at your best in a casual game, or is it more bullying to murder somebody super fast?

>>154262424
but 4 armor is fine?

>>154262963

Armor doesn't kill people. Don't get me wrong, 4 armor is bullshit too, but one isn't "harmful"

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>rank 20 on wild and standard
the fun is over
see you guys in october

>>154263108
>Barely leaving shitter rank
>"oh boy I have to paly real decks, bye"
kek, this ain't how you get to rank 5 -> legend son

>>154263194
that is correct
i have no interest in grinding as zoo from 20 to 12 then some aggroshit to 5

>>154262894
Thats pretty much the delima of the hearthstone meta. Either play braindead control decks or annoying aggro decks.

those arena changes seem like no fun fuck blizzard i want to draft tree of life and astral communion in druid and i want mind blast in priest

i've been reroling packs for like 30-mins and still haven't got more than 3 legendaries

>>154263445
>Paladin

- No changes

>Shaman

Vitality Totem
Dust Devil
Totemic Might
Ancestral Healing
Dunemaul Shaman
Windspeaker

so does blizzard even know what the hell is going on, or are they just doing anything to arena so it looks like they re trying

>>154263627
seeing as theyre removing inner fire but not divine spirit no they dont know they should just do the system they said of adjusting spawn rate of cards individually instead of this half assed band aid that wont fix anything

>>154263445
They are removing meme cards do give classes more consistency, you should be thankful. I understand how its fun to play, but preferable to do so somewhere where your lose won't have such an impact.

>>154263627
I'm not seeing the problem here.

>>154253947
that makes me a little sad

>>154263841
im not gonna be thankful for a lazyfix of arena balance. They're leaving in so many of the shit meme cards in classes that this is only gonna change balance for non mages and rogues

>>154263924
Paladin has Keeper of Uldaman which basically can remove anything. Also a shit load of buffs and 4sword to make trades.

Paladin is really strong and has nothing changed whereas Shaman is considered weaker yet is having Windfury gutted out of the format.

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>tier 1 netdecks as low as rank 20
>tier 1 netdecks would play at rank 25 if they could

fuck
this
game

>>154264259

>Rank 20 is supposed to be filled with people that fireball 1/1's or Soul Tap at 2 hp
>Same decks you see at legend

Really makes you think

>got two paladin dominance
>made a dragon paladin deck and played on ladder
>got into streak up to rank 10 after clearing the dailies

Gee, that was easy.

>>154264160
Paladin is nowhere near as good as mage or rogue in arena, which is why they're not getting gutted. If you wanted to gut paladins, you'd have to gut mages even harder, perhaps rogues too. Removing Forgotten Torch? That's not even a very good card in the first place. Snowchugger? A decent 2 drop, but not even close to being the best one available. Losing faceless summoner hurts a little, but mages still have their premium removal and aoe. Rogue loses their best 2 2-drops, which is a bit bad.

>yet is having Windfury gutted out of the format.
Huh? Windfury isn't being removed, which is a bit surprising considering how bad the card is. Windspeaker is though, and that's a bad card too. Don't tell me you think Windfury is a good card.

>>154264259
Rank 20 is just the infinitely low floor.
You have anywhere from new players running basic decks to netdeckers and their tier 1 shit, especially at this time of the month

>>154264383
it means that literally everyone
>e
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>e
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>y
o
>n
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who plays hearthstone consults the hearth websites and tries hard

>>154264537
Meant Windfury the mechanic. Shaman is having 3 out of their 7 Windfury cards removed.
Now for Basic/Common cards they only have Whirling Zap-O and Windfury (the spell). Doomhammer and Al'Akir don't really count due to their rarity.

>>154264545
more like if you dont have a coherent deck you get shit on repeatedly, at lower levels just netdecking will be the change that improves your winrate the most

>>154264783
your logic is awful

then why are there netdecks at rank 20

>>154264771
And that's a good thing. Dust Devil is shit. Windspeaker is shit. Dunemaul Shaman is shit.

>>154250310
Make it an 8 mana 3/3. It's too broken otherwise. It would see play in beast druid, evolve shaman, and really any other midrange board control deck that isn't hunter because of it competing with call of the wild.

>>154264545
>not playin meme decks you get 20% winrate with untill you AT LEAST get to rank 20.

People hate fun :'(

29 spells + Yogg Hunter. 35 legendaries and mill rogue is the most fun shit brehs

>>154264383
More people at Legend are playing original or at least modified decks.
At Rank 20 you're much more likely to see straight rips of decks they found online.
Whether that is due to budget or knowledge of the game varies case by case though.

>>154264880
quest and ladder rewards have made it completely ass backwards
legend rank is the only rank that youre actually allowed to play what you want

>>154251884
I'm salty about forgotten torch, succubus, tree of life, and lock and load being banned. I never feel that bad when I draft these, and they're not op by any means.

>>154265045
Succubus, tree of life and lock and load are shit cards though.

>>154264992
>legend rank is the only rank that youre actually allowed to play what you want
false meme, legend is full of roping try hards and ultra rope try hards trying to get into legend

>>154264815
the same reason you see them at that rank? you are that rank as well, at least at that moment in time

>>154265045
they got removed to buff the classes

>>154265079
i said allowed to, not where it actually happens
your rewards have maxed at legend, outside of rank 1 bragging rights

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>>154265079

>people at legend trying to get into legend

>>154265079
At least at Legend you can lose all you want without deranking, unless you care about Legend points (please don't tell me you care about that shit, right?)

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>play 12 games at rank 20
>lose them all
>record them all
>aggro warrior
>tempo mage
>aggro shaman
>aggro shaman
>yogg druid
>yogg druid
>yogg druid
>yogg druid
>aggro shaman
>yogg druid
>aggro shaman

Got the 80g quest on EU.

Raisu #2544

>>154265075
Maybe if you're a fuccboi tool who doesn't play a children's card game for fun.

The satisfaction you feel when you're playing arena and cast tree of life when the opponent has lethal on board, or you play succubus and don't discard your turn three play, or you l and l and get exactly what you need is so fucking fun. Yes, it's the dream, but sometimes living the dream is worth the risk of getting shit on by the same old arena tempo decks.

>>154265548
I'm playing a bloodlust shaman with basic cards, which I ripped off of a wiki, and I still haven't managed anything that retarded.
How bad are you exactly? Is arithmetic hard?

Name one time in Hearthstone history where the game was fun and interactive.

protip: you can't.

>>154265725
it was fun before naxx

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>Play OTK warrior cause I have 3 wins with warrior quest and its the only good warrior deck I have
>Face mage that constantly spams threaten
>Perfectly trade and stay alive long enough to finally pull Thaurissan from bottom of deck
>Mage plays Yogg
>Two mage secrets, one hunter secret
>Attack face with axe to check for explosive
>Ok its misdirection
>Only cards left in hand are for win condition
>Go for it
>Charge gets counterspelled
>Inner rage spellbended
Fuck this game

>>154265725
The meta after LoE came out for like 5 minutes.
All the Brann decks and Reno shit was fun.

>>154265651
>which I ripped off of a wiki
>literally netdecking
>winning games at rank 20
youre part of the problem

>>154265548
What shitty deck are you playing? I've been screwing around with a way too greedy secrets mage with arcane giants, medivh, and ice block and I've found that aggro decks get burned out quickly and midrange decks can't rebuild momentum. I usually burn out the control decks. I'm only weak to priest, but I'm ok with losing to one deck.

Maybe you're just playing the wrong deck.

>>154265627
with malchs imp and golem being new commons i feel like succubus being removed seems to me like they dont plan on making new discard synergy cards

>>154265797
you are retarded

>>154265780
>Face mage that constantly spams threaten
Too true. I swear Mage is the most emote spammy class in the game, second only to Priest.
It's always Jaina and they're always playing some cancer like Tempo Mage or Mech Mage. They'll pick one emote and never shut up with it.

Something about the way Jaina talks just makes her sound like a cunt. Reminds me of Princess Peach from Mario Kart/Party

>>154265897
Maybe they thought more people would play fun decks.

It sucks that everyone is a try hard faggot who just plays tempo mage /aggro shaman/dragon warrior and is just trying to make rank ten by selling their souls.

I wonder if brode ever gets sad that people don't play the game for fun.

>>154266030
i play discard zoo its fun as fuck and i get a decent win rate but thats because it has alot of zoo cards not from the new shit

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WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE DO THIS STUPID FUCKIN "BM" SHIT IN HS? WHAT IS THE GOD DAMN POINT?

REEEEEEEEEEE

>>154265797
I don't have anything to replace the shit with. Plenty of people running 3+ legends are still clearing boards that take me several turns and combos to claim, so don't worry.

>>154266189
because theres no chat i can shit talk in so i have to

>>154266189
Because the game is so bad we have to sarcastically insult each other with 6 canned phrases.
I personally love the phenomenon because it's one of the few things that gets me emotional

>>154266189
Emotes are there to emote, le everything not optimal or even expressing yourself is bm meme is terrible, worst part is that it's backed by all streamers

>>154265979
>
Something about the way Jaina talks just makes her sound like a cunt. Reminds me of Princess Peach from Mario Kart/Party
Her "well played" emote is probably the biggest offender. That somewhat contained chuckle makes it pretty clear she doesn't genuinely mean it.

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>>154235656
>NO CONSTRUCTIVE AND INFORMED CRITICISM ALLOWED

>>154266587
How butt blasted do you have to be to cross thread for a post that was made 6 hours ago?

>>154266587
better talk back while he's asleep huh son

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>>154266189
>>154266385

>win with a 1/1000000 diceroll and a single lucky topdeck
>in arena
>say "sorry" because I clearly should have lost
>he adds me to bitch about my supposed BM

Literally everything is BM to you people. Acquire a sturdier epidermis.

>>154266787
That's probably why the sorry emote was removed desu

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>>154263627
>'We wanted to ensure that no player would ever feel like all the cards offered to them were poor, and want to prevent the scenario where players, after they've drafted their awesome new Arena deck and are ready to start playing, feel like there's no point because of the perceived weakness of their deck."
>"This is why we're now implementing a new feature- at first exclusive to the Shaman class, players will be guaranteed to be offered a Flamewreathed Faceless in every card pick. This way players will never feel hard done by by the draft and will always be competitive."

>>154266780
>>154266784
I just woke up and scrolled down the thread, that's not me in the old thread.

so what will happen to arena decks that have faceless when hes removed will i be allowed to play my deck or will they make me quit?
i kinda want to hold the deck and fuck nerds up with my summoners

>warrior loses his 2 brawls
EAT
SHIT
AND
D
I
E

>>154266787
I still have no fucking idea what BM means.

>shaman gets Dust Devil off portal

See? This is why Overload is a stupid mechanic. It allows such bullshit to happen.

>154266419

Rexxar's Well Played is much worse

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>play 20 minute game against priest
>get close to winning 3 times
>he bullshits his way out every time

>>154266419

Gul'dan is worse. All his lines sound like he has a shit eating grin while saying them.

>>154267165
It'll let you play your deck.

However, because 6 classes are getting a lot of the shit cards removed, you'll face stronger decks compared to what you would face now.

so, if I have never played this yet, how fucked would I be trying to start up now, if I'm not going to spend any money, nor grind endlessly for days on end?

>>154266419
It's true. Her "Well Played" has a hint of sarcasm to it.
If you listen closely it kinda sounds like "HehWell Played".

Her "Whoops" and "Hello" are also snarky too, maybe it's just the way she says it so intentionally tone-deaf.

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>>154267551

>game nearing fatigue
>inadequate draws forcing awkward removals for both of us
>finally down to the wire and starting to exhaust his removal
>finally getting board control
>he yoggs
>i lose
>mfw

>>154267735
Not that fucked. If you want to kickstart winning I'd recommend getting an Adventure or some packs, if spending cash is not for you then jump into Arena as soon as possible to grind out some gold / learn the game.
Also watch some streamers like Trump and watch how they play.

>>154267735
idk do you want to win
if you dont then who cares

if you do you have to drop money or play a bunch of budget aggro decks

Looking for someone to trade Play a friend! quest with (160g each), online atm. EU: BestMageEU#2304

>>154268539
You pulled this shit yesterday too anon. How friendless are you?

Hiya, I haven't played in months and decided to get back into the game. I was pretty low ranked and was wondering what decks are good now, or what champions should I play as nowadays.

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brilliant ai there blizzard

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>Ethereal Peddler in this brawl

>>154267551
happy 50th brotherman

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>>154269394
Thanks anon

>>154264867
you're fucking retarded yuroshit moron desu
that card is garbage as it is

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Yo guys these Arena changes are fucking WHACK! REEEEEEEEE

Removed cards:
Forgotten Torch
Snowchugger
Faceless Summoner
Rogue
Goblin Auto Barber
Undercity Valiant
Vitality Totem
Dust Devil
Totemic Might
Ancestral Healing
Dunemaul Shaman
Windspeaker
Anima Golem
Sacrificial Pact
Curse of Rafaam
Sense Demons
Void Crusher
Reliquary Seeker
Succubus
Savagery
Poison Seeds
Soul of the Forest
Mark of Nature
Tree of Life
Astral Communion
Warsong Commander
Bolster
Charge
Bouncing Blade
Axe Flinger
Rampage
Ogre Warmaul
Starving Buzzard
Call Pet
Timber Wolf
Cobra Shot
Lock and Load
Dart Trap
Snipe
Mind Blast
Shadowbomber
Lightwell
Power Word: Glory
Confuse
Convert
Inner Fire


WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? REEEEEEEEE

>>154270002
>Axe flinger
Why?

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>>154270070
IKR

>>154270002
what the fuck was wrong with
>dunemaul shaman
>poison seeds
>axe flinger
>ogre warmaul
>snipe
>dart trap
>shadowbomber

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rate

i just want to play control hunter/rogue

>>154270219
Removing shit cards from shit arena classes so that better cards get offered more often. Should be simple to notice anon

>>154270462
keep dreaming

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I drew my first (of four) revive cards on turn 17 as priest.

In my graveyard I had:

>injured blademaster x2
>babbling book
>deathwing i got from forbidden shaping
>c'thun i got from forbidden shaping
>cult sorcerer
>priest of the feast
>sylvanas
>doomsayer
>sorcerers apprentice

What did I revive? That's right, babbling book. What did I revive the next two times? Did you guess babbling book? If you did you were right!

I hate this fucking game.

I still won despite that and despite him playing three cabalist's tomes.

>>154270002
>not removing Silence or Mind Games
Priest forever bottom feeder

>>154270465
but they aren't really shit

Fuck this shit Tavern brawl
Gotta win 5 and its all fuckin shitty RNG

>>154270757
i did my 5 wins in brawl with hunter in less than 30

hero power does all the work

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I just had two people concede during mulligan in a row

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tempo mage for those going for legend

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When are they gonna add Kael'thas?

Maybe Tempest Keep themed adventure?
Or Illidan & Co.

>>154270951
>cabalist's tome
noob

>>154270951
>cabalist in tempo

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>>154271225
>>154271053
>they don't run +3 activator for Flammer Jungler Dragon in Tempo Mage
>they use noob outside 1997

kys pls

>>154271356
enjoy your shatters

or put rag in and enjoy your 0.2% improved winrate

>>154271446
you dont seem to understand the value of drawing a third copy of a spell, it's the same reason why people run babbling book

>>154271446
>enjoy your shatters
this desu I really feel like cutting book for the same reason, it's like they super increased how likely you are to get it

>>154271503
you don't seem to understand the value of 5 mana do nothing yuropoor

>>154271545
yeah ill cut arcane intellect too since it's obviously 3 mana do nothing, you're a joke

>blizzard bother to try to balance this shitty game once or twice an year
>Lets balance the arena by removing 2 ok cards from mage and rogue and some shit from everyone else.
>Done. I doubt anyone will ever complayin about flamstrike or firelands portal ever again.

Fucking blizzard amazes me with their incompetence every day more and more.

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i dont know what the fuck is going on but sure thanks blizz

>>154270785
Thanks senpai, worked like a charm

>>154271689
secret goes into play, effigy activates? what dont you get

>>154271760
>what dont you get
why are effects interrupting lightbomb

Anyone laddering with token druid? Can I have a list?

>>154271803
they aren't

>>154271803
order in which minions are played, deathrattles triggering then secrets triggering

>>154271760
>Monsters are destroyed
>Secret comes after destruction
>Activates anyway from the action that happened before it was even on the field

???

>>154271824
>>154271834
why are these effects happening in between damages applied by lightbomb?

>>154271893
lightbomb already finished, then everything dies. It has nothing to do with lightbomb anymore because it's already triggered. Mad scientist dies, the secret is pulled, then the secret is activated.

>>154271893
they aren't
>lightbomb happens, deals damage
>scientist dies, pulls effigy
>stalagg does, effigy activates
>other scientist dies, pulls other secret

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Why do Paladins have Secrets anyway?

>>154271838

Secrets are counted in the end of "action blocks" everything dying was one action block. I dont know why, but sciendist dying from an indirect source (not an direct attack) causes the secret he pulls be included at the end of said block

>>154271991
Man that would be good on warrior. Activating Death's bite in a single turn or removing TWO high threat minions from the field.

Too bad fucking Paladin weapons suck ass damage-wise, best being Ashbringer that you gotta get through tedious means for this meme combo

>>154251106

can somebody say the actual name of the game so i can find it

please

>>154272072
At least it's an Epic because it's a meme, so it won't shit up Arena.
Meanwhile Blizzard makes meme cards Commons.

>>154272118
sniffverse

>>154272132
Well now they removed a shit ton of good common cards from Arena like:

Goblin Auto-Barber
Faceless Summoner
Snow Chugger
Forgotten Torch
etc.

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Ten packs before the pity timer.
Hmmmm, what's that smell?

>>154272190
>Say all the good removed cards
>End it with etc.

That is far too little. The method is also stupid and unnecessary.

>get offered 1(one) 1(one) drop in arena
epic

>>154272072
(You)

>>154272241
>>154272241

Smell like hated and fear.

>>154272249
Blizzard should remove 1-drop minions from Arena. Spells are fine.

>>154272245
Here's a full list ya faggot ass dingus
>>154270002

>>154272241
NOTHING BUTT ASS

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>>154272307
>>154272365
It's 400 dust. Fuck me, I guess.

>>154272504
Forgot to add, it's because I've already got him. Him and Princess Hwoarang are the only WotG leggos I opened so far. What are the odds to already get a duplicate on your third leggo?

>>154272589
2/20, 10 %

>dog and thijs now average more viewers than kripp

what a time to be alive

>>154253740

Are the titties you posted still censored in the English edition?

I always forget the little things Hearthstone has going for it like instant fucking queues. Holy shit playing other games is fucking obnoxious.

>>154263017

There is no difference between dying to hero power damage and dying to being fatigued out except that one is way more annoying than the other.

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>>154273020
Everything is always censored in the English version. It's been like that forever. Thank the aggressive American Evangelicalism.

>starting hand
>mirekeeper
>wild growth
>azure drake
>innervate
>living roots
>coin

So how will /hsg/ play this hand?

I went with Living Roots > Growth > Mirekeeper

>>154272504
keep him and dust both copies when they nerf him for 2 free leggos

what's the cheapest deck for shadowverse?

>>154273305
When will America stop living in medieval ages and stop mixing religious values into everyday life?

Why are people complaining about Control not being viable?

The top 10 in the data report consists of

- 3 control decks (Yogg Druid, C'thun Warrior, Tempo mage)
- 3 mid-range decks (Shaman, Hunter, Dragon Warrior)
- 4 aggressive decks (Aggro Shaman, Warlock Zoo, Pirate Warrior, Secret Hunter)

A fairly decent distribution in my opinion. A big on the aggressive side, but that is always so at the start of expansions as aggro decks get a lot of free wins against experimental decks.

And yes, I put tempo mage as control. What else can you call it with all the draw, removals and utility focused minions that maintain usefulness throughout the game.

>>154273620
>Yogg Druid
>Tempo Mage
>Control
sure thing senpai

>>154273369

>no info on what i'm playing against

top bearer

You can't use netdecks on ladder.

There I fixed Hearthstone

>>154273803
>r9k mode ladder

>>154273620
>Hunter
>Dragon Warrior
>midrange
welp

>>154273795

It's mage. I know it's okay to ramp Keeper out in case against aggro, but I never know what is the right one for mage.

>>154273620
zoo is control

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>>154273620
>Implying Zoo isn't a Control deck

>>154274009
tempo mage has a similar amount of 1-drops and he called it control so

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>>154274063
>Tempo mage
>Control deck

Okay, guys, design a 1-drop paladin minion card that will bring back Udder to the spotlight.

No 1/2 Argent Squire
No broken ability. Snowball effect like Wyrm is okay

>>154274117

>if you don't hero power for the first 5 turns and you don't win with Golden Monkey when you're fatiguing for 10 then you're not TRUE CONTROL MASTERRACE

*tips*

>>154273391
How do you even nerf him? His stats don't matter and he already costs 10.

>>154274229

I would make him cast like, eight random spells regardless of how many you've played.

Still better than the 18-spells Yogg that completely wreck either you, the opponent or both.

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>>154274191
Tempo Mage is Aggro or Midrange, depending on how the deck is built

>>154274191
Bring out your shields
1 mana 1/2
whenever one of your minions gains divine shield get +1/+1

>>154274307

Needs to be 1/3 and get +1 attack instead of +1/+1

>>154274307
wait no

make it any minion gains divine shield so it counters aggro HAHAHA

>>154274009
>tfw this legtimately triggers me

What is the most obnoxious deck to play against?

not the most unfair or the most powerful but the one that makes you rage the most.

For me it's zoolock, no matter how much you trade, no matter how much shit you kill he just relentlessly keeps vomiting minions and hitting face.

By the time you stabilize you die by some skilled triple PO on a a fucking imp token.

>>154274189
1/3 whenever you summon a Silver hand recruit, gain +1 attack
Don't expect it to be anywhere as oppressive as other snowballing 1/3s since the recruits don't protect your snowball minion as good as overload or cheap spells do, and muster is no more.

In fact, gain +1 attack whenever you equip a weapon could be stronger since paladin 2-drops sucks as well so you'd have a reason to play argent lance.

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>before standard/nerfs
Every class is broken, some more than others, but you can have some fun by balancing your deck with tech cards and broken ones.

>after standard/nerfs
Only a few classes (3) are broken while the others have to sit in the sidelines and wait for their turn.

How can anyone defend this.

>every time a deck that is not "play on curve and fight for board" appears it either gets nerfed to oblivion or made irrelevant

>every top deck right now is "play on curve and fight for board"

What if this playstyle bores the fuck out of me? I like decks that let you have long, drawn out games where anything could happen, like Kibler's RenoYoggElise.

Playing constructed like arena is yawn inducing.

>>154274462
totem shaman for that exact reason
>clear all his shit
>tuskarr totemic, hero power, maelstrom and thing from below for instant full board

>>154274645

>/hsg/ now defends pre-nerf HS

You fuckers were complaining 24/7 about muh combo druid, muh secret paladin, muh patron warrior.

>Every class is broken, some more than others

hahaha oh wow. You can't be serious.

>>154274781

Skill From Below is fucking insane

how could they ever think this was ok. it doesn't even overload for fuck's sake

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>>154274802
>muh combo druid, muh patron warrior
Okay I agree, those needed to go.

>You can't be serious
I'm serious.

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>>154274645
>before standard/nerfs
>Every class is broken

>>154274802
what, my favourite activity was posting Hmm, well played whenever a druid cheesed a win in a tourney

>>154274645
What was wrong with the LoE meta is that too many neutral cards were just too good, leading to stale, uniform deckbuilding. That, plus secret paladin and angry trees.

Standard fixed that, but also turned the game into a race between hyper aggro decks and yogg slot machine, so it's debatable if the game is indeed in a better spot.

>>154274878
I hate these cards that get insane value for just playing the game normally
Shaman will hero power enough to get a nice mana discount then when you factor in golem and totemic that shit will get to 0 very quick
then there's yog and arcane giant who reward you for just casting spells, which you will do

>>154274885

>I'm serious.

pre-nerf, pre-standard situation was roughly the same as now, only the top 3 classes were druid paladin and warrior instead of Warrior Shaman and Warlock.

The rest was nigh unplayable, just like now. it wasn't "better" by any stretch of the imagination, in fact it was marginally worse thanks to all around cancerous shit like boom shredder challenger etc.

>>154275007
how could warrior be top 3 when both paladin and druid shitfucked him?

>>154275101
LoE patron was good against druid.

>>154275101

Combo Druid could do literally nothing against 4 patrons on turn 5 and Secret Paladin was an even match if you managed to execute the avenged challenger.

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Why does every time I play yogg he plays astral. communion as one of the last spells?
Is this shit rigged?

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>>154259567
what about a card that summons 6 1/1s for 5?

oh, right

>>154251106
I would understand to moving to better games, but your decision is beyond me.

Is thistle tea in a thief deck a good idea, considering shadow caster for an second Brann as well

>Warrior has always been Tier 1

Maybe this is part of the problem. Maybe 1 mana kill anything and 2 mana negate your opponent's early game were mistakes.

>Playing Wallet Paladin with Prince Memeazar.
>Get lethal but have brann on the board and draw yogg.
>Opponent is so far behind that I decide to give him a chance.
>Play double yogg and he clears my board.
>mage starts memeing well played over and over like I accidentally fucked up.
>Kill him easy anyway but gave him the illusion of false hope for a crushing victory.

Learn your place scrub I was giving you a chance.

How is nevil consistently number 1 legend

>>154275461
>winning games
>taking names
>on the daily
yoooooooo

>>154251884
Does Brode understand that while, yes, chess is a solved game, no, we still don't have the "ultimate" play. Unlike tic tac toe, chess is infinitely more complex with a ridiculous amount of moves and combinations that it's impossible for us to calculate every single possible state in the game.

And even then it's not technically proven hat it's a solved game. While it currently seems like one, it's easily possible that there are many position from which you can't see the outcome of the game.

A good card game should follow chess' example, add more playable cards to increase the combinations in order to prevent it from turning into a solved game.

And HS wasn't a solved game to begin with. Lets take mirror Zoo as an example. There are 3 possible plays for Zoo (more, but they aren't optimal on their own and I don't want to make it even more complex by going into t2, where the actual calculations begin).
P1 can play Imp, Voidwalker and Absuive.
Imp > Voidwalker> Abusive > Imp.

The player has to predict what the enemy will play and play to counter it. If you plave Voidwalker and he plays Imp, you just lost a card unnecessarily. If you play Abusive and he play Voidwalker, you lose. But if you play Abuisve and he has only imp, you win.

Just because something is technically or seems to be a solved game doesn't mean it's also one in practice. It's impossible to predict everything that can happen in a short amount of time so the fact that there is one ultimate play means nothing.

>>154274462
I hate Tempo Mage. They always have the turn 1 Mana Wyrm. They always hit fucking perfectly with the their missiles. Even when you finally stabilize they just empty their hand into your face, because burn is a fair thing in a class that also draws tons of cards.

>>154275260

If you're going to play a shit game, you might as well play one with anime tiddays.

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>>154275634
>infinitely more complex
finitely.
>it's not technically proven hat it's a solved game
it's not solved. it's solvable because it's finite and deterministic

>>154275660
Same
>Manage to gain board control because I could kill Wyrm and Flamewaker
>I'm either low enough to eventually get burned down before I kill him or I get flamestruck

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>>154251884
>Paladin
>None
What the actual fuck? I see I will still have to deal with little shit.