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Ben Brode is my husbando


>Deck lists, news etc:
http://tempostorm.com
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.hearthstonetopdeck.com/
https://manacrystals.com/
http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/category/analysis/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

old >>154115808
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First for Trump!
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>priest
>spellsteal
>inner rage + execute
>gets fucking tirion from deathrattle card

aight aight no skill INVOLVED FAGETS
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Give me the most braindead deck to reach legend in wild fuck
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>slow general

Uhm.. hearth-tards?
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>>154182127
>in wild
I'd assume it would still be secret pally
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>>154181923
>playing hearthstone and complaining about not needing skill

Honestly switch to something else if that's the case. Over-whine, Dotard, or anything else.
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>entire e-celeb hearthstone community has now turned against the game
>at least 4 months before the next update

will the game even last until blizzcon
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Feels nice. A lot of people hate tavern brawl but it's great for doing quests like these where you don't have many cards for some classes.
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>>154182339
They will probably buff/nerf some cards.
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>>154182259
Shadowverse General when?
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>>154182636

>unironically went from naxx to 4 months after gvg release to nerf undertaker


Yea, I'm sure they're getting right on that
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>>154182339
Blizz appeals to the casual crowd, so people who won't question the mechanics of the game or the design choices. The worst that can happen is the collapse of the pro scene, but they'll milk HS for years before the game is effectively dead, if only because it's a Blizzard game.
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Take it, slut
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Nth for PTSD
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Heroic shave medivh is such fucking bullshit
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>That feel when you are playing patron and you realise too late that your opponent is going worgen wombo combo and isn't control...

Fuck.
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>tfw going to bnet transaction history and realise I've spent over $300 on this game
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>>154182894

>queue into worgen warrior as priest

not even freeze mage vs control warrior feels this bad
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>>154182894
>realise too late that your opponent is going worgen wombo combo and isn't control...
How is this even possible? You realise it the moment they play Hoarder or Pyromancer. Did he do nothing the first 4-5 turns or what?
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>>154182894
>tfw playing patron into tempo mage
>tfw it's one of the mages that runs flamestrikes
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>>154182828
I still get triggered whenever I hear "who am I?"
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>>154182828
>BRING OUT YOUR DEAD *coin noises* I FEEL ICKY
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>Buying TGT packs to fill out my collection.
>Getting all the epics and Rares I need.

Inb4 dust
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Qutting mtg cause legacy and modern have been unbearably boring lately.

I once watched Lifecoach play Patron, is that deck still around.
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>>154183867
nope
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>>154183867
Somewhat.
It's probably the least cancerous Warrior deck around.
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>>154183867

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/626706-legend-2-patron-s30?page=2
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>>154183867
it was nerfed into oblivion
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>>154183867

there are no decks that require that much forethought in play
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>>154183867
Hearthstone is shit though. Every pro player is turning against it, and you will absolutely hate the rng.
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>reynad thinks hearthstone will be bigger and better next year
holy shit the cognitive dissonance among hearthstone streamers is hilarious
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>>154182239
>>154182127
Secret paladin with n'zoth
Control n'zoth priest
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>>154184857
He has investors to please.
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>>154180653
the chinese leaked some shit about arena, seems blizzard is scared of losing kripp LOL
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Even Reddit hates the game now. The only one who still likes it is ironically Reynad since it made him $4 million net in the past 2 years and now that he's the only game in town he'll make even more.
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>>154185323
Didnt asia get an arena ladder?
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>>154185413
I forgot what they got, but I am seeing something on twitter from what I can translate with it, that there are arena news coming
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>>154185370
>only game in town

what did he mean by this?
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>This fucking brawl
I just want one win
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>>154185643
>opponent is mage, with priest
>turn 1 wyrm into turn 2 PW:S and the 2/1 taunt murloc into turn 3 thoughtsteal into turn 4 shifting shade into mind games for goddamn highmane
>meanwhile I'm druid with hunter and get shit like gahzrilla and bestial fucking wrath with a bunch of junk cards like the 2/3 c'thun card with obviously no c'thun in my deck

just fuck my shit up senpai
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Fuck this game, it is rigged
>playing against aggro shaman and winning
>suddenly get disconnected for no good reason
>come back and now I lost a turn and i'm losing
Not to count the amount of times I lost to a yogg.
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>>154185584
Every other major Hearthstone team has disbanded. The Tempo Storm brand grows stronger every day and no one can stop Reynad.
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*summons 6/6 worth of stats split over 2 bodies for 3 mana in this thread*
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>>154183783
considering doing the same, good idea mate
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>>154186107
>>154183783
how many packs should you open total for this? 100-150?
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Sometimes lucky.
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>>154186201
hard to say for epics
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The fact that yogg can just decide games is so disgusting

>be losing
>yogg
>win
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>>154186365
well what would you guess is the cut off point of buying packs?
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>decide to try out shaman as 2nd class
>first draw is flamewreathed

I wonder if he regretted playing that aldor early on a 2/1?
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>>154186468
with 100-150 seems okay, especially if you use the dust from the same pack to help creating the epic cards your are missing after buying that amount.
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>>154185526
>>154185323
is it just the thing brode posted on plebbit about some "arena changes" they're going to "share with us in a few weeks"

fuck the hearthstone devs are so slow and so tightlipped

all they have to do is tell us what they're planning now and it'd make a lot of people stop complaining but noo
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thanks a lot blizz, fuck my winstreak right? I restarted 3 times and still cant connect or "leave" that game, what the actual fuck.
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>>154186408
>Reminder /hsg/ said that yogg will be a meme and will never be played seriously in constructed and competitive play
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>>154186568
I bet theyre going to standardize cards a bit so the power range gets narrowed, especially bringing the low end up.
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>>154186662
really speaks to the imbalanced nature of the game when certain classes are forced to rely on rng to even win a game
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>post your face when cancerwaker rotates out
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>blizzard working with heartharena to set the offer chance of cards in arena
>blizzard working with heartharena to set the offer chance of cards in arena
>blizzard working with heartharena to set the offer chance of cards in arena

IT'S HAPPENING
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>>154186786
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>>154186689
*distant HAHAHAHAHA*
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Arena would be OK if you could choose cards for your deck out of the entire 90 shown to you, not this 3 at a time crap.
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>>154186786
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>>154187418
nah just like 5 (a regular pack) would be nice and more like an actual draft
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>have to do rogue dominance bullshit
>try to get it over with using tempo/face rogue
>vs. priest
>priest of the feast
>kill it
>res, play various spells
>kill it again
>onyx bishop PotF
>kill it again
>res PotF

Jesus fucking christ I just want to get my daily over with ffs.
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>>154187418
That's not a draft though.
What it should be is you pick 40 cards and then cut it down to 30. This gives you a chance to negate shit picks.
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>>154187665
play oil rogue in wild, its 10x more easy to do your rogue quest there.
Same for paladin
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>even chanman now hates hearthstone

We have really hit the end of times, this is what sc2 felt like in 2012 when it was just about to die
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>>154187731
Blizzard will never make hearthstone a proper competitive game. Just the way it is.
It's not even on their agenda.
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Is secret/midrange hunter the new Aggro Shaman?
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Why are pro players turning against the game? I thought this expansion had some really fun cards like Moroes and Barnes and Curator
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>>154187979
only when they curve perfectly, which is always
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>Wallet Paladin
>Priest Entombs both norm and light rag
>Deaths slyvannas and tirion.
>I'm also running Prince Legions because I don't care what I draw.

Ain't even mad bitch I got plenty more 7+ mana legendaries.
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>>154188018

They like to blame tuskar into golem and yogg for them sucking at the game
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>>154188062
Tuskarr isn't even played that often, Yogg is kind of ridiculously good though
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>>154188018
I don't think it spawned as many changes as LoE did
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This poor, poor warrior.
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>>154188060
Here comes shadow word death and now you can't get board control because legendaries are too slow

>>154188136
So? So suddenly the game is bad just because the meta didn't completely change?
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Secret midrange hunter is so broken
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>>154188194
>Suddenly
The game has been bad ever since we started getting adventures and expansions.
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>>154188194
>Board control

Bitch with equality pyro and all this healing you don't care.
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>>154187725
Good point actually, totally forgot about wild, thanks.
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>>154188018
They're complaining about how the game's turned to Curvestone and decks that play themselves
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>>154188336
But it's been that way. Secret Paladin and Midrange Druid were both curve decks?
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thank you based brawl pack
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Am I going to regret this?
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>>154188491
I spent the remaining dust on this also.
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>>154188491
>out of the frying pan
>>154188585
>and into the fire
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>>154188434
They were, but there's been a lot of complaints right now because all the tier 1 decks are curvestone decks (sides Token Druid which is extremely popular at high levels) that drop minions on curve and there's only a single high tier control deck, which also plays by dropping minions on curve. Control decks that actually play like control decks are all crap.

Shit like (old) Patron Warrior, Miracle Rogue and Freeze Mage are a shadow of their former selves. These decks are/were cancerous but promoted a different sort of play and Blizzard wants to kill the archetype. Except Warriors, because Blizzard loves Warriors
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>>154188491
>>154188585
yes you will
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>>154188710
Good.
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>>154188491

Probably, but the few times that it shines it really does shine

>tfw putting it down against a warrior and rogue
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>>154188685
CYCLE UNTIL YOU CAN OTK IS NOT SOME HIGHER ORDER THINKING ANY DIFFERENT FROM CURVESTONE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>154188491
Probably not. It's great in control shaman when you need to drop a big guy for board control but can't afford to have it get entombed or polymorphed.
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>>154188434

combo druid had counter play with loatheb, was there anything more satisfying than keking a druid out of lethal with loatheb then killing them?
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>>154188882
Yes. Doing double combo with innervates.
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>>154188798
Hol up fampai, let me just play my Fiery Bat > King's Elekk > Animal Companion > Stranglethorn > Highmane > Highmane > CotW

The point is Blizzard's killing anything that isn't braindead playing minions that cost the same amount of mana you have available each turn and leaving no tools for other deck types to play with
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>craft deathwing memelord for Barnes fun
>it never works :(
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What's the best deck to counter Midrange Hunter?
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>>154189003
A faster aggro deck like Hybrid Hunter or Aggro Shaman
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>>154180653
He is sexy as all hell, the body, the small, that voice. Top bear. But I just can't bring myself to play Blizzard games anymore.
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>>154189003
There's no way Yrel is that cute
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reminder to play those minions on curve anon
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Book Wyrm is great
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>>154188946
>Fiery Bat > King's Elekk > Animal Companion > Stranglethorn > Highmane > Highmane > CotW
You missed a 4 drop and probably lost the game because of it
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>>154188491
Based Soggoth
NOBODY ever sees it coming
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>>154188946
But mana efficiency is a core mechanic of the game. It'll be part of the game so long as you automatically get +1 resources each turn.

MtG is different because resources are drawn from the deck itself. How many lands you run as well as things that search up lands is an important part of deck construction, some control decks run upwards of 25 lands in a 60 card deck, while some red aggro decks run only 15-16 sometimes. You aren't guaranteed mana. The downside is there is very real potential to get either mana screwed or mana flooded.
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>>154188060
Post penislist.
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>>154189239
>The downside is there is very real potential to get either mana screwed or mana flooded.
This is why I always preferred yugioh.
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>tfw you topdecked Call of the Wild for lethal THRICE in a row

laughingbrode.mp3
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>Shaman always has two (2) hex in hand
The fuck
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>>154189239
Yeah its part of the game. I'm fine with there being curvestone decks in the game, I get my golden epic every month being cancer with Aggro Shaman. I'm not fine with curve decks being the only good decks and control and combo being dogshit in comparison.

Too bad the Hearthstone team's obsessed with minion on minion combat
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Watching yogg just win games is disgusting
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literally only japs and ruskies streaming shadowverse fml
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>>154189642
Play the game? That's what I do. Why do you need streamers?
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>>154189713
they are usually knowledgeable about the game and I just started
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HAHAHA BOW DOWN! I STEAL YOUR WIN NOW! HAHAH STORIES! WASN'T THAT FUN HAVING YOUR VICTORY DESTROYED RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES BY UNSTOPPABLE REAMS OF UNFAIR BULLSHIT. WHOO BOY WHAT A CARD. WHAT A TIME. THE STORIES.
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>>154189753
I just started as well but its fine to discover things on your own, no?
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>>154189421
shaman literally always have everything they need. If you try to build a board on them, they are just going to 1/4 the spell power totem, play lightning storm, and high roll on everything. If you don't over commit to the board, they will just play a tuskar, get totem golem, and drop a 5/5 for 2 or less mana. then you're behind on board.
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>>154190061
>shaman literally always have everything they need.
Man....

>Shaman quest
>ohboyherewego
>Mull hand: thing from the deep, hammer, 4 mana 7/7. What the
>get so behind on board that lose the game
>Repeat x time
After 4 games, I STILL didnt start with the trogg or any 1 drop at all, even when mulling aggressively. Quest is still at 0/3. FUCK. Why the fuck does this seem to only happen to me.
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>Clean kill of mage minions
>Fireball to face
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>>154190061
My problem with aggro shaman is the fact that they need fuck-all draw. 2 mana tides is absolutely plenty when you can get another off tuskar, or it stays alive for ages because you're trying to deal with 4 mana 7-7s and all the other bullshit.

Playing vs Zoo is the same deal. You CAN'T go trading cards 1 for 1 vs either deck or you'll just run out and they won't. At least undertaker/face hunter eventually ran out of steam, but even if you traded card 1 for 1 all the time, you also had to heal.
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>>154189801
Did you perhaps not notice that Yogg wont do anything unless you fulfil its requirements? Your opponent spent the whole game playing spells to prepare for the late game Yogg. He had to fill his deck with mediocre cards and was forced to sacrifice optimal plays in order to ensure that his Yogg would defeat you.
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WHAT THE FUCK, I KEEP GETTING DCED EVEN THOUGH MY BROWSERS ARE WORKING JUST FINE.
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>>154188145
>competitive game
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>>154190396

>clear zooshitters board 3 times
>soul tap ensures he can shit out 1 drops and just refill the board again

>>154190490

Shut the fuck up Ben
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>>154190515
Same here >>154186627
servers are fucking up
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>>154190547
>Playing RNG cards
seriously, he asked for it
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>>154190648
>a deck can be made without RNG cards
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>wake up
>flamewaker isn't rotated out
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>Druid quest
>go in brawl
>Druid + Hunter
>Beast synergies up the ass
Now THAT is beast druid, like holyshit the value.
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>>154190812
>tfw innervating out gazhrilla
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>>154190763
Absolutely.
Well, if you're mage it will be hard, but otherwise its possible.

Fuck do I hate rng.
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I'm done with HS, my last game will never be beaten.

>35 card wallet paladin vs 35 card control warrior.
>Back and forth for 25 minutes
>He gets me on the ropes 4 health
>YOU FACE JARRAXUS!
>His last card...is King, fucking, Krush
>Panic
>I'm on 9 hp, thanks for the Krushing balance blizz!
>Win on 1 hp after an epic game.

I wish I had recorded it.
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>>154189302

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/362439-heal-you-to-legend-update?page=2
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>>154190924
>>His last card...is King, fucking, Krush
I thought Prince Faggot followed deck building rules? If that is true you are lying, if you are lying why are you such a stupid faggot?
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>lets do the brawl on EU even through I dont really play there
>open this
>ffs, lets screenshot
>enlarge window first
Bravo
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Why is rogue the only class with no healing/armor cards?
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>>154191226

>What is Elsie.
>Control that doesn't have her...
>U wot m8?
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>>154191248
>wanting all class to have everything
WoWfag detected.
More seriously, its Rogue design.
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>>154191248
hunter doesn't have healing or armor
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>>154189826
doesn't matter anyways literally everyone is playing only swordcraft
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>>154191321
You are literally a underage eurocuck or australian
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>>154191248
Because they where supposed to be the big damage, kill you in one turn class
Which is fucking moronic so now after nerfing decks like that they're trying to find out what to do with the class and they don't want to make them aggro focused because that would just make them Hunter
so blizzard is retarded
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>>154191351
Well I am playing Shadowcraft, its pretty comfy.
I see a lot of dragon-dude and that Holy-girl as well, sorry cant remember the actual name.
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>>154190924
princey alcazar baltazar only adds class and neutral legos to your deck, you lying shitdick nigger
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>>154191340

He has beast synergy, secrets and weapons to make up for it though.

Rogue has.....pi..rates? Even if you attempt to count pirates, warriors are better.
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>>154191375

t. Warrior
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>>154191461
rogue has card draw
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>>154191445

Think a little, saltmine.
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>>154191338
HS is literally a WoW spinoff. There's no reason not to give Rogues a Recuperate card.
The weirder design choice is Rogues not having secrets when Paladin's do.
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>>154191594
Its bad design in a card game to allow everyone to play the same mechanics.

Granted that HS is not a good example of good design.

All class shouldn't NEED healing/Armor, this denotes another design flaw if they do.
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>>154191594
Is Warrior a god in WoW too then?
>armor, taunts, removal, board clear, aggro, control, card draw, big damage
I don't know what they where thinking
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>>154191461
Rogue is shoehorned ever since gadgetzan meme became a thing. I wish they would remove that shit. I miss playing value tempo rogue with defias and pandas.
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Dead game
Dead thread
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>>154192246
post zeriyah!
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>>154192078
Best part of warrior is that they mostly have consistent mechanics. The taunt giving/synergies is the weakest theme eplored so far, but everything else is solid. Just compare it to rogue "random class card generation", shaman rng galore and warlock discard for example.
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>Its another rogue burgle match
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>giving zoo a 1/1/3 draw engine
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>Barnes into Malygos into all the spells
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>>154193290

Rogue is in such a fucked state I never mind losing to one.
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>>154193583
My arcane giant rogue does well
N'zoth has become terrible tho
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>>154193656

N'Zoth is too fucking slow, I love that deck, but now a days it just gets run over.
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>>154193290
Why does burgle rogue make people so salty?

Most people just concede to me if I get even slightly ahead which happens rarely because I get my shit pushed in so easily
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>>154193771
Its just so fucking boring to play agaisnt. Its like playing against priest.
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>vs red overpowered orc
>vs orange overpowered orc
>vs green overpowered orc
>vs purple overpowered orc
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>>154193771

Cause people don't realize how bullshit their cards are until it's used against them.
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>complete hybrid hunter deck
>always mill fucking highmanes and call of the 8 even after redraws
>lose
Three games in a fucking row.
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>>154194076
are u playing tracking
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Why is this allowed?
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>>154194076
>always mill
what
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>>154194138
I might put them in, but with the amount of shitting on I get today by the RNG it might pull a third highmane out of it's ass.
>>154194171
>mulligan
I'm tired okay
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plot twist
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>>154194305
ah, np
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>>154193852
>boring to play against
What's boring about curazy random card generation?

There's literally nothing boring about playing against it. You people are fucking delusional.
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>>154194305
you def need at least one

helps if you somehow get awful hands or to delete shitty topdecks later on
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>>154185643
play druid with hunter
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>>154193992
>Totenkreuz's rank 20 adventures
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>>154194394
I'm guessing throwing out one of the Argent Squires for it?
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So I just bought Legion and I got a free pack code with it. I don't really like this game anymore and some of you guys are just fucking thirsty for cards so:

Post your battletag and a youtube video, first video to crack me up gets it f ams. Asians not allowed
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>>154194463

I've had rank 13 adventures once

But yeah, I'm bad at the game and only enjoy Rogue. It's a potent combo for being shit forever.
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>>154194581
maha#1124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRGMAW1wzQ8
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>>154194581
Also remember that there's a cap of max 5 free packs via codes
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>>154194534
something like this
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>>154194675
>barnes

why? the only minion in your deck that would make him worth playing is highmane
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>>154194756
he only has 3 bad targets pham
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>>154194756
the only really bad ones are houndmaster and abusive everything else is at least pretty decent

like just getting a squire or a grandma is good, dont have to get tirion for it to be worth it
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>>154194675
I'll give it a shot. thanks
>>154194756
I've been thinking of changing him out for Elekk, but even the grandmas come in handy sometimes.
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>>154194756

>Getting free deathrattles is bad

DUDE
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>>154194948
wow a "free" random ping, all i had to do was put a worse yeti in my deck
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>>154194581
wew, to think that no one wants a free pack just by making me chuckle a little
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>>154194948
It's not "bad" but it could be replaced by a better card
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>>154195043

>Worst result is a yeti
>Chance to win game.
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>>154195034
>>154194636
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>>154195034
just post it in this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Klb837fLpY
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who else done playing for the month?
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>>154195206
haven't even started this month
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>>154195132
ur video was garbo m8, but since no one else replied I guess you are the winrar
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>>154195342
you dun goofed>>154195193
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>>154195206

>wow congra-
>zooshit

Eh...
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>>154195206
post dik
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my sides
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>>154195392
nice battletag Sadam
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>>154195437

>post dik

Look at the fucking picture, you can't tell what he's using?

>juggler and sargent in recent action thing
>stop yelling! on the board

GOSH WONDER WHAT DECK THAT IS OH BOY
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>>154195409
gotta go fast. makes games quick and this game favors aggro more than midrange or control.
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>Fun and Interactive
>New player experience
>Stories to tell your friends
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>>154195437
here you go. it's nothing special.
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>>154195672
>hearthstone
>new players
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>>154181118
cuck.
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Will Hearthstone get better?
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>>154196226
doubt
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>>154196226
when has it ever gotten better?
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>>154196313
Standard format
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>>154196350
LOL

Being a different kind of shit does not make it better
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>>154196226
not with blizzard behind the wheel.
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>>154195578
kys
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>>154195206
I have no will to ladder whatsoever this month, I'm still rank 12. Gonna rush to 5 next week maybe, so I'll be done too.
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Looking for someone to trade Play a friend! quest with (160g each), online atm. EU: BestMageEU#2304
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>>154196573

Nice meme post faggot, you can figure out the dude was a zooshitter from some simple observation.
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>>154195840
What do you think about discolock? is it any better than regular zoo?
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>>154196627
why are you so mad that I didn't want to play 30 minute games to get my 400 dust at the end of the month?
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>>154196609
Sent! ;)
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>>154196756
Don't mind him, control warriors are dumb.
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>>154196313
I know Naxx was busted, but it had some great ideas in. LoE also had quality shit in.
TgT while being shit, tried new stuff.
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>>154196725
it is in my opinion. it's a lot faster and has a greater potential for swing turns.
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>>154196756

Huh? I'm mad at the fag that posted "post dik" like he couldn't see it for himself. Are you even following post flow or just replying?
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Fuck this tavern brawls. It's even more RNG than usual. Lost 5 goddamn games in a row where my opponent curved out perfectly and had the perfect answers. Why the fuck am I even still playing this shitty game?
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>>154196921
you're just being obnoxious. maybe he doesn't know the current zoo lists. there are a lot of them floating around since the new expansion.
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>>154196978
>Last night
>check quest
>it's a 40g one
>reroll
>Win 3 as Priest
>ohshit.jpg
>wait
>there's tavern brawl!
>win 3 games in a row easily because half of my deck is made of cards from a better class
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>>154196313
We aren't suddenly losing 25 health to otk combos and there are less do nothing for 5 turns decks
Sure games are decided by turn 3 or on Totemic and the Old RNGod but it is slightly better
Not much better but it's something
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>>154196158

I don't understand 4-Channers fixation on this word, cuckolding is healthy for society, especially if you are a white male.
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>>154196226
Of course it will. Standard and the nerfs opened up a lot of design space for Blizzard to play with in 2016!
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Free 80 gold at EU
TripleAych#2118
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>>154197304
https://youtu.be/w3YnoYKx2YI?t=4m27s
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>>154197304
I agree with that comrade! Do you have any advice on how to convince my wife's son to play a progressive deck such as control priest? Don't be too harsh tough, or he will tell his father Jamal.
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>getting multiple 80g quests from randos on friends list on the same day

feels nice kinda
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>>154197472
Ok its gone
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>>154197510
>race-mixing cuck meme
fucking Americans
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>>154197615
t. cucked swede
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>>154197736
>swede
Not even close. Can you stop meming?
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>>154197324
Blade Flurry died for this
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>survive one anyfin
>survive two anyfins
>opponent has a third anyfin
>dead
Thanks fucking ivory knight
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>>154197854
Blade Flurry died to save Wild from Oil Rogue
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>>154197854
>Have to spend 3 mana to equip it
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>>154198065
a 2 mana 3/2 weapon would be overpowered
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>>154197953
But Wild is basically a dumpster for blizzard's mistakes, it could have been left alone along with secret paladin and cancerous sticky minions. Who cares anyway, no one takes wild seriously, it's basically a joke mode where people too shit to get legend in standard can get the card back while riding secret paladin.
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>>154197953
no it got nerfed because healbot sludgebelcher and loatheb were leaving
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>>154198103
I see what you did here.
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>>154183028
>tfw face golden warrior in arena with mage

>I CHOOSE DEATH
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I less than a week into this game, what's the best way to go about dusting and crafting cards? I got a decent amount from my free arena and from scraping some trips in my collection and need to know should I keep hoarding or what
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>>154198103
Yeah, imagine if Blizzard had a printed such a card.
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>>154198348
Only dust triples and objectively hopeless cards (you can ask here if you have some epics or legendaries to appraise), what you should craft depend mainly on what decks interest you. Ragnaros is a good first legendary craft no matter what.
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>>154198348
Don't dust any commons or rares, its not worth it.

Only dust piece of shit Epics and Legendaries. You should ask here or look it up if they're dustworthy cards
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>play 8 tavern brawl games
>won just a single one

LE RNG IS LE FUN XDDD
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>>154198365
It could go 2 for 1 with basically any early drop, that's too much of an advantage for a card that only costs 2 mana, they'd never do that, you're basically a retard for even imagining that. Not even /hsg/ OC creators could come up with such a retarded idea.
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based brawl pack, I needed dust
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>>154198674
R-rate my OC
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IT'S GUESSING TIME!
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>>154195496
I wish I started paling this before, its pretty zen. Poor guy here, I was waiting all game for some Worgen combo so he just got killed by his own Giant.
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>>154198789
Mukla
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>>154198789
tinkmaster
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>>154198841
>paling
playing*
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>>154198856
>>154198883
It's 400 dust yay!
I can't be mad thought since it hasn't been that long since my last leggo.
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>>154198785
>4 mana 4/3 summon a Doomsayer

It's shit, no way someone would use that.
>>
>Hunter plays Barnes
>Y'shaarj into Y'shaarj
>Backstab, backstab, eviscerate, eviscerate, ping with weapon, kill Barnes with 2/2, lose game
T-thanks
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Why is this allowed?
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>>154198789
harambe
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>>154198621
>>154198485
so far my only epics/legendaries are Ancient Lore/Brawl/Cthun
I was actually thinking of burning all my Cthun related cards but maybe if the arena keeps giving me packs for him, maybe I should hold out
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>>154199249
I wouldn't mind it if the amount of totems were vast enough that they didn't get Golem every other fucking time. And that 'other' occasion is in games I'm not playing.
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>>154199353
Ancient of Lore is shit (but used to be the 2nd best 7 mana card in the game).

Keep Brawl and Cthun, you're on your way to Cthun Warrior which is one of the most expensive decks in the game
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>the top streamer is doing nothing but moaning over how bad the state of the game is

very healthy game
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>>154199249
it's fine because rng.
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>>154199353
100% keep Brawl.
Lore is kinda meh now after recent nerfs. Could still be useable in certain decks.
Since you have C'Thun, I'd keep him and other C'Thun related shit as he's a win condition that can essentially be put in anything to pad out your deck with your lack of cards etc.
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Y/N?
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Who's the most informative """""streamer""""" that plays this shitheap of a card game?
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>this week's brawl
>try a few times and fail miserably because of RNG fuckfest shenanigans
>roll a 3rd attemp, wheel keeps spinning
>figure it's a disconnect problem and exit the game
>relog
>get msg "trying to reconnect", after a few seconds "reconnect failed"
>get pack

mfw didn't even have to win
thank you Blizzard for realizing this brawl sucked donkey dick and doing the right thing
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>>154199482
I had a feeling Ancient Lore was gonna be the shit card
I have 3 days play and a level 12 priest and I already have srcub common cards better for healing and drawing that doesn't burn all my mana
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>>154199637
reynad, kibler or firebat
pile of salt, optimism incarnate and an insufferable faggot with a mind of a 12yo
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>>154199731
AoL used to be great, but they nerfed him to uselessness about 5 months ago (He used to draw 2 cards)
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>>154199637
Kibler
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Whats the most fun deck to play in the current meta?
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Tips for arena lads?
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>>154200045
nothing is fun to play because you'll be facing aggro shaman or discard zoo every game. anything fancy or fun just dies by turn 5.
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>>154200020
>>154199805
No 45 year old former gay porn actors please
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>>154200045
If you also want to win Token Druid, with or without Malygos. Tempo Mage with the new Kara cards is also pretty fun.
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>Lose to face decks 5 times in a row because of no early game
I think im uninstalling this game now
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>>154200045
burgle
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>firebat is financing his own tournament with cardbans and different formats

where were you when the former world champion single handedly saves hearthstone ?
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>>154200378
source
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http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-17/

>Hunter, Shaman, Warrior
>Aggro Shaman still out of control
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>>154200464

his twitter, he's taking votes on what cards to ban right now

https://twitter.com/firebat/status/773893716130029569
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>>154200468
>Hunter counters Warrior
>Warrior counters Shaman
>Shaman counters Hunter
>Other classes can't compete in power level
Wow, really makes you think
>>
Holy shit elder scrolls legends is shit. It's even worse rng than hearthstone
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>>154200045
probably burgle rogue
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If Y'Shaarj pulled a random taunt minion from your deck, would he be playable? Would he be too good?
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>>154200172
Kripp can teach about tempo and value
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>kripp WILL kill himself after one more expansion that completely shits on arena again
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>>154201240
He's stopping full time HS already, so..
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>>154200932
It could make bolster warrior a legitimate deck maybe.

But it's too complicated anyway, so I'd make him summon a random minion for every minion you played to be consistent with Blizzard's design philosophy.
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>>154200468
I've been bitching about the three for months, but today I've come to a realization if you want to play Hearthstone, hyper aggro is the most reasonable choice. It's fast enough to end games before you'd have to deal with the biggest cancer of all.
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>>154200586
I hope The Coin makes top 5
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>>154195840
What can I use instead of Imp Gang Boss? I don't have those.
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>>154202607
idk. that card is pretty damn good. harvest golem maybe. nothing can actually replace what it does.
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>>154202607
No replacement.
You could use a 3-drop that works differently, but is fine on its own, like Argent Horserider. But with Horserider you'd want to play PO probably.
Or just add more 1-drops like Argent Squire and hope it works, but Imp Gang Boss is easily in top 3 of zoo cards.
>>
>Play Arena Shadowverse
>Assured 5 games
Hoylshit this is way comfier. Also the fuck, I just started and have like ~20 free packs.
>>
how come all the druid decks blizzard comes up for taverns are some of the most atrocious garbage you can come up with

like this fucking deck for this brawl has the boogeymonster
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>"Thijs .@Frodan The direction of the game over the last 2 years. HS was about playing with your cards, not just play your cards."

>wtf, everybody hates Hearthstone
https://twitter.com/G2Thijs/status/773594798141870080

Wtf, I hate Hearthstone now.
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>>154204352
pretty sure you get random cards
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>>154204481
frodan whiteknighting for a billion dollar company makes me want to shit my pants
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>>154204637

casting gigs are his main source of income since he got fired by reynad
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Only shitters will defend this card
>but anon, you can only play it when you are losing

so when you are winning you are winning
and when you are losing you are winning too

fuck this shit, back to shadowverse
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>>154205209
>have to play x spells to do anything
>no guarantee
>Cost 10 mana
I NEEDS to be impactful. You are fucking paying 10 mana and building your deck accordingly, I sure hope the card wins me the game at that point.
>>
playing against priest is such a fucking annoying slog

even when they're playing a mediocre deck and you win it's still a fucking slog
why can't blizzard just fucking kill this class already
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>that passive aggressive tweet from brode over firebats cardban tournament

blizzard really are the most thin skinned devs out there
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How would Hearthstone change if you could pick your starting hand?

I honestly can't see any downsides. Aggro decks already have such a low curve that their starting hands are never bad. It would greatly help control/anti-aggro tho.

It would make the first few turns feel more tactical rather than "Argh I got such a shitty hand again" and you'll only have yourself to blame for your deck/starting hand choice.
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>Its a freeze mage match
Why are people still playing this shit? Its boring as fuck.
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>>154205687
links?
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>>154205721

>trogg golem tuskar
>trogg golem tuskar coin dr 4/rockbiter

seems good
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>>154205398
>put a shitton of cheap spells and removals
>play them like a moron on low value targets just so you can survive to turn 10, then drop your "oops I win the game despite playing like a moron and you have no way of taking back the game I was about to easily lose in two turns because I already shat out all of my removal and most good minions" card
The card is 100% cancer. I'm sure if a bullshit deck like zoo got a card that summons a random minion for every minion you played there would be much less people trying to defend that hypothetical piece of shit as lol its random you can get a doomsayer xD
>>
>le zoolock
>le midrange hunter
>le aggro shaman
>le dragon warrior

this is so fucking boring
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>>154204481
Being Thijs is suffering
I've never seen one player get golem'd or mana tide'd from totemic more than him
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>>154206038
>>play them like a moron on low value targets just so you can survive to turn 10, then drop your "oops I win the game despite playing like a moron
Because playing aggro demands more brain cells? Seriously what the fuck is your problem? If you can survive you play yogg you should win.
>>
reminder that the scenes mood is exactly how sc2s was just as it died

too bad tes legends ended up being garbage
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>>154205721
Classes with an op opening combo win and classes without them lose
Druid will get some innervate shenanigans, priest will always have blademaster double resurrect, mage always has wyrm plus cheap spells and same for trog and shaman
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>>154205893
Happend already to me every secound game i facce shaman...
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>>154205721
>lets remove variance in a card game
Bravo. Just paly fucking Tic-tac-to
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>Feelsl ike buying ~20$ worth of TGT packs to get some epics that I'm missing before I can only craft them
I will probably not be enough. Damn it, why didn't I open any dreadsteed back then and some others.
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>winstreak as a meme deck
>hit 3 face shaman in a row as a reward
>>
>you can get Thaurissan off moonglade portal

counting the fucking days until the gigantic sack of CANCER brm is gets rotated out
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>>154206768

reminder that in another universe a class that needed a portal meme got it instead of druid
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>>154206123
>lol aggro shitters xD
>If you can survive you play yogg you should win.
The problem is yours, and it's that you're retarded.
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>>154199805
What, Firebat isn't that bad, he said some okay things recently about the state of tournaments and tbqh not sure why you'd consider him that insufferable or faggoty. But to each his/her own.
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Hey anon
>You like card games
>You like anime
>You like balance in your games
>No coinflips that decides games
>A lot of free stuff so you can have a strong start in the game
Why arent you playing Weebstone yet?
>>
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20271286/hearthside-chat-upcoming-arena-changes-with-dean-ayala-9-8-2016

CARDS GETTING REMOVED
ARENA GETTING BALANCED
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i think I actually hate this game
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>>154206843
If you cant understand that a 10 mana card SHOULD provide a win, or an opportunity for a win, then its you who have problems.

Hell I play some mtg decks that have combos that are just impossible to stop if I have the proper protection and whatnot (storm) which works in a *loosely similar way*. My point is that Yogg is a wincon and you have to actively play the game up to casting him, so its only fair that he fuck shit up like he usually does.
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>>154206438
>my opponent got a good starting hand
>I got a shitty starting hand
>I lose
such fun variance

vs
>I'll put some anti-aggro cards in my hand in case he's aggro
>he's playing control anyway
>game goes on as normal

I've seen way too many games against aggro go exactly as: "I didn't have x card in my hand, so I lost that match." Not exactly fun
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>>154206981
Is it pc intensive? Mine barely runs hs.
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>>154205721
Warriors would always have Win Axe

... ... oh wait.
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>>154202287
Not much of a story but I was playing at rank 19, I am just trying to get my 500th Priest win (been playing since day one release so its not like I play lots of Priest), met a FULL Tempo Storm 500 win Malygos Druid at rank 19 which I almost beat with Resurrect Priest btw and then this comes down and rapes me.

Sorry just got PTSD.
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>>154207031
There is not a 10-mana card that can't be played around because all of them have a more or less predictable effect, not a random clusterfuck that leads to more random clusterfuck.

If Yogg would destroy the entire board every time, healed your hero for some hp, and drew you 3 cards, it would be broken, but not completely retarded.

Because the randomness on that scale is the whole problem with the card.
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>>154207126
what the fuck are you playing on?
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>>154207108
The problem are the cards themselves. Also you start with 3-4 card hand, its fucking ridiculous compared to other card games.
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>>154207010
Very nice, but can they fucking fix Constructed too?
>>
OK so what the fuck: this thread cannot continue until we get some answers in this bitch.

1) OK WTF happened with Kripp? Source?

2) >>154204819 sauce on Frodan getting fired

3) >>154205687
Brode hating on Firebat? Is this why he is now a faggot?

I know this is social gaming BS but still there are a lot of wild accusations getting thrown out here and its time to actually clear them up.
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>tfw running yogg and c'thun in the same deck
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>>154207010
These fucking dumbfucks dont even understand WHY they are balancing arena lmao
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>>154206981
Is the pc client out?
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>>154207453
An acer aspire v15.
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>>154207031
>If you cant understand that a 10 mana card SHOULD provide a win, or an opportunity for a win, then its you who have problems.
Fuck off retard, goes to figure a stormfag would be this autistic
10 mana win the game killed patrician control decks. why ever think about how to deploy your high end for good value, just fucking slam n'zoth first, or c'thun three times, or yogg better. Yogg is "fair", the same fucking way tuskarr totemic is fair, all's fair in love and war; the point isn't that it's unfair but that it's fucking cancer that ruins the game's legitimacy
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>Vitality totem, Moat lurker and Deathlord
First pick in Shaman arena. Is Deathlord the least useless?
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>>154207657
>>154207564
This is Hearthstone's primary audience everyone
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>>154207752
>goes to figure a stormfag would be this autistic
You dont know how fun playing Storm in legacy is. (possible in other format as well but you get what I mean)
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>>154207847
Honestly, I'd consider Lurker. You can kill their big dude, then Earth Shock it if you have one. If you don't, it's not biggy. It's like a temporary sap.
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>>154207847
Deathlord is only good with some buffs like BoK or Velen's which can win you the game on the spot since removal is harder to come by these days.
Moat Lurker is okay since it can act as a fine hard removal when you're pushing for lethal, plus you might pick brewmaster or earth shock to stop the killed minion from respawning.
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>>154207847
Moat lurker is pretty good. I even used it on my force tank to get a new one, since it was at 2 health and the oponent would trade into it.
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>streamers crying literally get more response from the devs than a year of secret pally and nearly a year of undertaker crying did from the community

wew
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>>154208089
>Play Moat Lurker, byebye 7/7 for 4.
>Opponenet emotes
>Shadowstep it
>Play next turn, eat a totem
>Swing next turn, kill a Trogg, shadowstep again, eat another totem
I still need to improve the deck but god damn it its fucking funny sometimes.
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>>154206981
>tfw i just opened a pack with merlin and an animated tsubaki

So good. Exactly the two legendaries i needed to complete my decks. Now i can get my midrange swordcraft cancer and dimension shift runecraft shenanigans going while building a bloodcraft deck
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>>154208459
>6 mana Moat Lurker to kill 4 mana 7/7
You already lost at that point if it's been up 2 turns
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>>154208370
Streamer are the only thing keeping Hearthstone alive and when they see their streamer money disappearing they make a big noise and Blizzard comes running.

Happy streamers mean they are shilling 24/7 and Blizzard doesn't have to spend a dime on Marketing.
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Took the Lurker. Now what?
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>>154208910
Malchi.
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>>154208910
Is this a hard decision? Malchezaar. You have no synergy with the other two.
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>>154208910
The one that's 6 legendaries.
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>>154208910
Malchezar is serious bullshit sometime, so I'd go with that.
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>hunter
>dragon warrior
>dragon warrior
>dragon warrior
>shaman

the game literally feels worse than when the meta was only secret pally
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>>154207010
This changes almost nothing, what are you getting excited about.
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>Try Dragon Warrior with Curator deck
>mfw Curator works amazingly well
Deck is boring though
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>>154209023
I was using constructed logic and thinking that malchezar would fuck me up with useless cards, but I guess I'm wrong since everyone is suggesting him.
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>>154209696
Malchezar would fuck you on ranked because your deck is technically good cards. In arena you have a lot of "fine" cards usually, some good and some garbage, so he should improve the overall quality of your deck
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>>154206090
>le zoolock
Warlock is currently the 4th least played class in the game, just over Rogue, Priest and Paladin.
Are people still complaining about a class that has 1 viable deck and even that one isn't as strong as it was, just fast and cheap?
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>>154209919
>zooshitter spotted
kys
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>>154210023
I'm playing mostly Paladin and Rogue.
Not my fault that you still can't deal with a dying class.
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>>154210023
>he actually think that someone is better for playing x deck instead of y
The only thing that count is winning.
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>People that have Memezaar or barnes in their deck
Thanks for the free win unless your Barnes draws a Ragnaros.
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>>154209919
Warlock is always fun if you get Truehart out on time. (I know, nobody but me uses a Soul Tap deck)
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>>154207010
Let player draft more than 30 cards and construct a deck out of those cards they drafted.
Change the rarity of some bullshit like Firelance portal and flamestrike.
Force a minimum of 1 legendary, 5 epic and 5 rares for every run.

There, better than what they did.

Arena is currently bad because there is too much rng and some classes having idiotically strong common cards.

The RNG is somewhat lowered by allowing people to draft, lets say, 45 cards and then constructing a deck out of them, with the option to change the deck between games.

Increasing the rarity of some cards prevents shit like triple firelance portal or whatever.

Forcing a minimum of 1 lego and few epics gives people better cards, mostly. It's very rare to have a choice between 3 truly awful legos.
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>>154208910
makchezar
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>>154192339
She looks pretty good for 60.
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>>154210252

>Playing Wallet Paladin
>Run Memezaar as I don't give a fuck what I draw. Your game is going for 25 turns anyway.
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>>154207319
>Yogg
>predictable
>Yogg
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Im out fuck this game.
3times now..3 fucken times now the same shit..
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>>154211065
Rouge worst Hero power atm...trade HP for tempo, very balance vs Aggrostone.
Nerf bladefurry, never a problem this card...
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>>154206090
How do you like losing those netdeck mirror matches, eh ?
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>>154211065

wow, meme decks are shit against tier 1 curve decks
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>>154211065
I quit in May and came back this month.

What bothers me is that I'm entirely f2p since naxx release and have most of the competitive cards, which has taken so much time to build up. How do I get over the sunk cost fallacy?

>>154211230
The point is that tier 1 curve decks are fucking boring and that's all anyone ever plays in this game.
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>>154207010
According to the comments, the earlier version of the article completely forgot to talk about priest. Blizzard forgot the game has 9 classes.
What is that priest that you talk about?
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game froze completely wtf blizzard fuck you
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>>154209880
To be more secific, he fucks you over because in constructed you actually have a win condition. Having anything more than 30 cards just serves to make your deck more inconsistent, especially if they are random cards. In Arena, you dont. So your deck just becomes pool of good value cards that you hope to wrestle your opponenet down with. How big that pool is doesn't matter much so long as it contains a majority of good cards.

It's interesting to note that he is actually signficantly less good if you draft a mage with 1-3 flamestrikes.
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>>154198173
>too shit
You mean people who have a job and a family ?
Note:having a Twitch channel is not a real job.
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>>154211631

priest is the only class in game where their most powerful spell was literally nerfed because it made the other person feel bad even though it had horrible wine percentages

they treat it as a joke class
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>>154211295
I came back because I haven't played since they started nerfing more things
I hoped that they'd have fixed things but I should have known better. The dev team doesn't think they need to do better because they're the type to overvalue the unheard opinions of casual players
casual players will play things because it's there, not because it's good or bad. It's free and you can play it on a phone.
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>>154200468
>Value type Tempo Mage
>Burn type Tempo Mage
Which one would be better to run currently?
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I fucking hate this card.
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>>154185643
I don't understand how people complain about every fucking RNG-based brawl like this
I probably have like an 80% winrate with them, i almost always get my pack first try

Shaman + mage is fun as hell btw
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If someone wants to get 80g for doing the friend quest add me: JustLikeHome#1871 - Americas
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Am I the only one.. the only one that thought this was FlameWALKer until today?? And I've been playing pretty regularly since LoE so a decent amount of time.

Fuck
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>>154192078
>board clear
>Warrior

Wow Brawl sure is reliable!
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>esl tournament
>136 viewers

holy shit, the competitive scene is deader than sc2, a random sc2 tournament is on now and has 6k viewers
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>>154209919
>It's the 4th least played
You do understand that this says literally nothing about whether or not it's frequently played, right?

"just" over rogue and priest and paladin does not mean it hs numbers in the same league are close, it just means there's a gap there, or that there's no smooth gradation of classes being played on ladder.

It constitutes about 9 percent of Ranked games, as a class, and around 7.82 percent of those are Zoo. For comparison's sake, aggro shaman is 8.15 percent, and midrange hunter is about 11.15 percent.
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>>154212429
Then win BEFORE he plays it, DUH. Damn you guys are anoying with your Yogg rant, play fucking aggro and murder them before anything.
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>>154212567

I thought it was Flamewanker...and still do.
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>>154212695
Also I should had
>inb4 b-but I dont want to play aggro
its not about what you want its about winning
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>>154191594
>The weirder design choice is Rogues not having secrets when Paladin's do.
This. This shit always bothered me. I mean seriously blizz, what the hell?
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>>154212829
add*
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>>154212527
Is it still up anon? I sent you a request.
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There are computers that can struggle to play Hearthstone?
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Glad arena will be fun now
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>>154213127
Mine always fails to open Hearthstone the first time.
It always gives me le playful sprites xD at least once.
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>>154212643
According to some data anon posted above in the thread, Warlock makes up ~9.5%, Rogue ~6.5%, Priest ~6% and Paladin ~5.3%.

I would say it is just above those. Especially when you have hunter, warrior and shaman at over 16%, mage at ~13% with druid just over Warlock at ~10.5%.

The reason why Zoo makes up almost all warlock decks is because there is literally no other Warlock deck that isn't shit or pure RNG fest or a variation of Zoo with discard cards.

Comparing it to purely aggro shaman is unfair because besides aggro shaman you also have evolve shaman and midrange shaman that are excellent at ranking up.
For hunter you have also aggro hunter and midrange hunter, both excellent for ranking up.

Both of those decks actually beat Zoo now.

Warrior... well warrior is warrior, has a million viable decks.

Zoo is currently a mediocre not as much played deck and you need to be objectively an awful player to not be able to deal with it.
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>>154213283

>rarity system wont be completed until next year

yea, not really
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>>154213305
Same here.
But I think it's Blizzards problem. Recently I started getting the same problem on my phone.
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>>154209919
>>154213358
Doesn't really matter how often it's played or how good it is.
Some decks are just fucking annoying and draw a lot of complaints.
>zoo
>freeze mage
>tempo mage
>fatigue warrior
>priest in general
Nobody says control priest is OP, but i'd rather play 2 dragon warriors in a row.
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>>154212621
Watching yogg vs. aggro shaman is like watching a retard race desu, kinda funny, but only in small doses and you still feel a bit guilty afterwards.
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What good mechanics could be added into Hearthstone?

So far the only thing that was actually good was Discover.
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>>154184857
It's always funny listening to him ragging on magic and how shitty it is or has become only for him to point out improvements to hearthstone which all point to making the game more like magic.
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>>154213816
[Viable mechanic that doesn't benefit aggro over midrange/control]
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How do I have fun in this game again?
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Guys, i have got S T O R I E S T O T E L L
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>>154213816
>discover
>good
>worse novice
>worse drake
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>>154214285
Play only casual.
Concede when you're winning against people running a bunch of basic cards.
It's the closest to having fun I could imagine with the game in its current form.

Alternatively, if having fun means winning and ranking up, just play aggro shaman or hunter on the ladder.
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>>154212567
SHIIIITT
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>>154180653
Which deck do you think will remain tier 1 the longest between

Aggro shaman
Yog druid
Warrior
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>>154213816
They should add a hearthstone version of tap effects from magic, you play the minion, then when it's on the board you can pay another mana cost to activate an effect.
Example

Apprentice Engineer
2 Mana 2/2
Pay (1) Draw a card.

Essentially letting you choose to either play it like later like a battlecry or play it on curve as a vanilla minion.
That's just my gay idea though and it'll probably confuse too many casuals to ever get made
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>>154215031
That's essentially what inspire is, but not as good of course.
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>>154214951

warrior has the best and most versatile base set, anything they put in through expansions just augments their current decks if not outright making new lists
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>>154206981
>Why arent you playing Weebstone yet?
The tacky art, mostly. Manga art is usually cartoony and generic enough as it is, but it's like they told the art director to make it especially generic looking while letting the colorblind guy or a five year old take care of the coloring for maximum gaudiness.
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>>154214951
Until the next rotation? Aggro shaman. It's the most refined one and if there was some meaningful counterplay, it would have been discovered by now.

After the next rotation, hunter will become the new king cancer unless something yet unforeseeable dethrones him.
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>>154214551
I think my biggest struggle is that part of me is like "why haven't you got legend yet? you have all of the cards" but another part of me is like "why bother? all you get is a shitty card back and it's literally just a grind, literally just playing a couple hundred games with a tier 1 deck, it's not even something to be proud of and mostly seems like a waste of time"

I feel like even if I did it it'd be a hollow victory, I wouldn't have fun doing it, it'd just be a chore. It's not like in the end I could say "I got legend, I'm really skilled at this game!" it'd just be like "oh yeah I played aggro shaman or dragon warrior for 200 games and eventually got there. Waste an entire weekend on it, yup."
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>>154215031

that'd just help curve awkward turns better
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>>154215126
Seriously just thinking of always focusing on warrior since they always have some t1 deck. I can't remember them ever not being a t1 deck

>>154215189
What about yogg druid
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>>154215179
>you like anime
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>>154215240

Don't bother getting legend, that's what I did and it killed all interest I had in the game. There is no carrot left besides getting golden portraits and now I barely make rank 10 anymore since I just play shitty decks I make myself
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>>154215031
Yea, it's similar to inspire, but you're always paying 2 mana (and getting your hero power with it). So the effect can never really be super strong.

It'd be cool to have stuff like Flame Juggler and Ragnaros be tappable.
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>>154215342
>What about yogg druid
It will lose Living Roots and Raven Idol, both of which are pretty significant. It won't kill the deck, but might weaken it depending on how the game progresses.

The main reason I'm not that concerned about yogg druid in the grand scheme of things is that aggro decks are currently super efficient at winning before he can even play yogg for any meaningful impact.
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>>154213358
9.5~ is a lot more than 6.5~.
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>opponent has two 1 health minions and I have a 2/2
>play mad bomber
>it hits me in the face and then my minion twice
>I forgot to attack with it as well
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Anyone else playing Shadowcraft? I started 2 days ago and, its quite fun.
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>changes to arena

WHO FUCKING CARES
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>>154216340
>brawl
>play 3 arcane missiles from rhonin
>they all ignore the enemy minion and go face
>all 9 missiles
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>>154215791
>broken if it gets anything other than taunt
give it one less hp.
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>>154213816
Field cards! They're simple and provide a nice opportunity for cool graphical effects.
Cross-class cards are interesting but probably too complex for Brode.
Something like tapping, like >>154215031 suggested. They could call it "feed": tap/click the minion to feed it some mana and something happens.
A functioning graveyard. Res priest already uses it heavily, so might as well. I think they were planning on it, with that skull icon on the board near the deck. When i started out, i kept trying to click on it to see my graveyard.

>>154214282
That's difficult at this point, with how badly they've fucked up the balancing.
There's a "power cliff" for most classes after turn 8 or so, where they start to be able to play hugely powerful combos or single cards that can decide the game in their favor. Aggro decks in HS bypass this by winning before that point.

In a properly balanced game with no excessive power spikes on any one turn, slowing down aggro by say, 1 or 2 turns on average, makes them proportionally weaker by 1 or 2 turns worth, so they can be buffed or nerfed simply and consistently.
The problem is that in HS, aggro is already only 1-2 turns ahead of a cliff (eg turn 8 for hunters with CotW), and anything that allows slower decks to reliably push the game over the edge (eg belcher, big heals, etc) can destroy the viability of HS aggro completely.
Adding something that unreliably does so is an option of course, but it means even more RNG and fucked-up balancing, so it's not desirable (though i don't doubt they've considered it and might even pull the trigger next expansion).

Brode & co have painted themselves into a corner.
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>>154215791
It's be balanced at 3/3/3 i think.

>>154216875
Agreed with one less hp. But
>broken if it gets charge
garrosh would like a word
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>>154217369
>shaman screaming some moonspeak while he double rockbiters you in the face
>100% more fun
I'm not seeing it desu
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>>154217369
100% more RNG too
and that's saying something since hearthstone has way too much RNG
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>Shaman losing 6 draft picks in arena
Who here is ready for literal face shaman in Arena?
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>>154218816
More concerned about warrior
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>>154218816
Surprised they didn't ban the 4 mana 7/7.
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>>154219008
They banned all the useless cards all around and some good cards from top tier arena classes.
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To recap the apparent arena removals:
>Mage
Forgotten Torch, Snowchugger, Faceless Summoner
>Rogue
Goblin Auto-Barber, Undercity Valiant
>Paladin
None
>Shaman
Vitality Totem, Dust Devil, Totemic Might, Ancestral Healing, Dunemaul Shaman, Windspeaker
>Warlock
Anima Golem, Sacrificial Pact, Curse of Rafaam, Sense Demons, Void Crusher, Reliquary Seeker, Succubus
>Druid
Savagery, Poison Seeds, Soul of the Forest, Mark of Nature, Tree of Life, Astral Communion
>Warrior
Warsong Commander, Bolster, Charge, Bouncing Blade, Axe Flinger, Rampage, Ogre Warmaul
>Hunter
Starving Buzzard, Call Pet, Timber Wolf, Cobra Shot, Lock and Load, Dart Trap, Snipe
>Priest
Mind Blast, Shadowbomber, Lightwell, Power Word: Glory, Confuse, Convert, Inner Fire

Just... what the fuck? Most of these are good removals since they're garbage (eg totemic might, anima golem, nerfed cards, etc) but what's with the rest?
Who the hell thinks removing snowchugger will balance mage, or that priest really needed to lose inner fire?
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>>154219251
But they didn't ban the most useless card, Shatter
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>>154213283

Mage will still dominate. Getting rid of a bunch of cards no one drafted anyway won't change it. Now you're offered Lost Tallstrider instead of Succubus as a warlock. Just turned into a win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>154219565
Greetings, friend. Snowchugger is a bullshit card in arena. Broken as fuck.

Inner fire I will agree with you, I've gotten some sweet drafts with priest where I had a 8/8 Deathlord.
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>>154219565
>snowchugger not top pick

kek
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>>154219565

Chugga shat on weapon classes in arena. Paladin literally cannot, and even in Wild with every single card available, still cannot deal with Snowchugger from hand on 2. Unless it's some fucking retarded unrealistic combo like Boar + Might.
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>>154219783

Had some drafts where 2x divine spirit were forced picks, then that Inner Fire started looking nice.
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>>154219783
>>154219835
>>154219903
sure snowchugger is bullshit, but it doesn't make mage the top class by itself
the goal of this was theoretically to change up the balance so mage and rogue stop raping all the other classes, right?
this won't be nearly enough
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>>154219565
wot
i played those cards in arena like 5 minutes ago
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>>154220063
I mean they cant remove mages BEST cards. They cant remove fireball and flamestrike. People will freak the fuck out.
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So we all agree that this is the meta where skill absolut unnecessary and aggro above everything?

Damn this game sucks so hard right now
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>>154220063
It's a start. Snowchugger and faceless are top tier in mage.
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>>154220063
It will help a bit.
They should remove Firelands Portal tbqh, but it won't happen because lol new card
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>>154212342
Vicious Syndicate thinks burn type
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>>154199249

If you think it's hilarious now, wait until they print the inevitable 10/10 totem.
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>>154212342
I'm with >>154220629
You don't want to drag out games against the curvestone 3 since you have no healing and the value decks are more unreliable. Tempo Mage has a lot of reach for the type of deck it is anyway.
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>>154187692
>That's not a draft though.

Neither is what Arena does now. It would only be a draft if the cards you don't pick got passed to your opponents. Which is impossible to do with the system they have in place right now.

The whole purpose of a draft is to equalize the quality of the cards pulled by making them circle around the table. Picking one of three 30 times does nothing to equalize card pools.
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>>154180653
You heard it guys, be careful when dusting BRM / LoE / TGT (Naxx and Gvg aswell).

It's likely that they will find some way to bring them back into standard at some point to shake up the meta.

https://twitter.com/bdbrode/status/772917053095153664
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Why didn't they make psychotron a 3/5?
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>>154222147
>Mfw didnt dust a single card I dont have 2 copies of already (or 1 for legendary).
Feelextremelygoodman
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>>154222147
what a stupid non-answer to the question
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>>154222147
He means put it up for sale for a limited time at a premium price
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>>154222147
>Flamewaker gets reprinted into Standard
Who /happy/ here?
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>>154222147
They would never allow old cards back into standard without reprinitng them as new, standard-legible cards in some Hearthstone greatest hits expansion. Remember, we are talking about people who have to eat.

Brode is probably talking out of his ass, entertaining the possibility of one day allowing new players to play through Naxxramas for free, of course without unlocking the adventure cards.
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You guys should check out Faeria, barely any RNG and more strategy. I've since retired playing hearthstone.
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i feel icky
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>>154180653
TOPPIEST LUL

This article is gold with all the tweets from Bran Brode and the other terrible blizzard employees regarding the state of the game at the moment.

http://www.hearthhead.com/news=255768/blue-tweets-brode-talks-rng-improving-communication-and-yogg-saron
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>>154222624
she should go back to being an escort if she wants to travel
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>>154222147
Actually, based on that tweet I would suggest the opposite: freely dusting the older cards (though I'm not doing it myself because I like hitting up Wild every now and then).

If they ever bring the older cards back into Standard, they are going to reprint them in some way to do so. The entire point of Standard is so that you don't need cards from old sets.

This, by the way, is what they should be doing in the first place - an annual core set made up exclusively of reprints rather than evergreen Classic. The model Magic uses is the correct one.
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>>154222992
Sexiest shadow ever
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why does yogg exist
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>>154222713
Leper Gnome was the herald of cancer. If he was played turn 1, you knew you were in for a shitshow.

Glad he's gone
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>>154220310
Have you even played this game in the last two years?
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>>154222759
Full damage control after Arenafags got fed up and they quickly slapped a fix together.

Now the """competitive""" scene are complaining and they don't know where to nerf or just wait until the next expansion to see where the meta """shifts"".
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>>154223170
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>>154222147
its a non answer like one said earlier

you can play with your wild cards in tavern brawl, in wild and playing against AI so in a way you can "use" them.

But this is Blizzard we are talking about so if they want to they will find a way to rehash old content and sell it
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>>154220310
This is not a meta issue, but rather a game design issue.

Hearthstone is a game where you can't do anything during your opponent's turn and where the attacker can choose what to defend. You can't even discard cards from your opponent's hand. That type of design inherently favors aggressive decks and inherently fucks over control decks.

I think it's absurd that people are complaining about an "aggro meta". It's not an aggro meta. It is an aggro game. Being able to discard cards from your opponent's hand would help that but the game still favors aggro and that has nothing to do with the meta or with balance.
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damn tempted to get medivh to replace this jaina cunt
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>>154223170
>>154223417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEgjqZrpx10
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It's funny that people are complaining but are playing the same cancer decks on ladder 24/7.

>B-But fight fire with fire.
>B-But there isn't any honourable decks and you're just gimping yourself by not playing Tier 1 netdecks.
>t.Shieldbearer
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>>154223465
>It's not an aggro meta. It is an aggro game. Being able to discard cards from your opponent's hand would help that
you've been spouting this retarded meme for months and I hate it so much
watch a zoo deck thoughtseize or hymn the fucking brawl out of your hand, real fucking control meta
hand disruption will always favor the deck with lower average card quality i.e. the deck trying to win on tempo ime. the aggro decks
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>Final boss in arena and winning
>Get disconnected and playful sprites
>Come back and I lost my board and enemy is 2 turns ahead
Umm.. hearthtards?
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>>154223616
>He didn't get all heroes for free through the Amazon deal.
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>>154223465
lmao what the fuck

>aggro discards cards vs control player
>control player loses answer and losess
>control discards cards vs aggro player
>aggro player loses one of his 20 low cost minions and still wins
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>>154223616
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>>154223321
I really hope Blizzcon has at least a couple of games, preferably in grand finals, won on a blatant Yogg coinflip.
>hurrr due to the great variance that often goes unappreciated he could have played around against pyroblast to the face followed by lay on hands followed by firelands portal into earth elemental into ancestral spirit into seal of champions into ball of spiders into power of the wild
t. Dan "Frodan" Frodan
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>>154223465
>Being able to discard cards from your opponent's hand would help

Help aggro, you mean.

Hand disruption has always been an anti-control mechanic in any game it exists in.

If you want to give control a chance for real, you need to introduce strong comeback spells. Things like "5, Destroy all minions, heal 2 for each minion killed this way".
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>>154223616
>He didn't get it for free last month
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>>154223736
>but playing the same cancer decks on ladder 24/7

I've played nothing but dragon paladin the last 3 days, this is cancer now?
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>>154223915
>>154224078
>tfw took a small break from hsg last month and missed the deal
jdimsa
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STOP AXEING MY MANA WYRMS
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>>154224078
has any new deals come out?
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>>154224220
>my overstatted 1 drop gets answered

get bent
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>>154224220
heh greetings
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>>154224220
But Axeing a Mana Wyrm is how you cope with cancer.
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>tfw you drop n'zoth and fill the board
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>>154224078
w-what?
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>>154224220
>Mana Wyrm
>Coin
>Mirror Image
F U C K J A I N A
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>>154224328
>Yogg saved you from dying
>N'Zoth the turn after to refill the board
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What changed from last year, when there were a shitload of 8-man streamer tournaments? Every weekend a bunch of streamers would take a plane somewhere and fight each other. Was that just a shitty idea or something?
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>>154211760
If i was blizz i'd make it so flamestrike and fireball are legendaries in arena, would help cut down the absurdity
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>>154224308
Steadily shooting armored orc is how you deal with cancer
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>>154224261
Not at the moment.

>>154224331
There was a promotion last month on amazon mobile app, if you download this app called Hay Day you would get $10 credit to spend on Amazon's app store (which means you can download hearthstone from amazon and buy packs / heroes / adventures).

You could create multiple amazon accounts and use multiple $10 to purchase anything you want, I bought full Karazhan, LoE, Medivh and 7 classic packs with 4 accounts.

You also got $5 for any referral you got, which means you could referral yourself.
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>>154224780
Can't believe I missed that, fuck me.
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>hearthstone is "who gets lucky with yogg"
>elder scrolls is "who gets lucky with prophecies"
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>>154224036
>If you want to give control a chance for real, you need to introduce strong comeback spells. Things like "5, Destroy all minions, heal 2 for each minion killed this way".

Main issue with giving control decks a chance is that control decks are not fun to play with or against. They simply take too long to win and too long to lose. What we need is interactive and skill-intensive decks that can also win very fast. What the fuck that means in practice, I have no clue.

Hearthstone is such a sluggish game. I don't want to spend 20 minutes on a single match against a rando when all that match gets me is one third of a way towards getting one tenth of a booster that has 1/1000 chance of having a good card. At the very least they should double the speed of all animations and reduce turn timer to 20 seconds.
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>>154224624
Card rarity serves absolutely zero purpose outside of drafting so it amazes me that Blizzard still manages to cock them up for arena.
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Who's moving on to gwent once the beta hits?
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>>154225150
>absolutely zero purpose outside of drafting
Crafting cost dude. It's pretty significant if you haven't been playing since launch or shell out for the game.
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>>154225150
>Card rarity serves absolutely zero purpose outside of drafting

Card rarity serves the purpose of making people buy four thousand packs to get their Tirion.
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>>154225287
>>154225331
*gameplay purpose then
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>>154225080
>Skill-intensive decks that win fast.

You should play some Control Zoo. Epitome of skill. Can control board and face.
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>>154225748
got you covered pham
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>>154200468
vS is based as fuck. Can't believe so many people believed in the bullshit Tempostorm cooked up for so long.

>Liquidhearth
Literally who
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>>154180653
Playing paladin lists with secrets gives me a goddamn ulcer... Your opening hand looking like a stripper's gstring and divine favor aint nowhere to be found
also fuck these captchas
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>>154226279
So why play it? Are you a cuck?
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>removing 0 Paladin cards from Arena

Am I missing something? Or is this typical Blizzard protecting their precious Paladin waifus?
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>>154226651
it's simple, they just made all classes as good as paladin
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>>154226651
What the Christ are you talking about?
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>>154219565
>Snipe
Why? That's a good card with the secret synergy hunters got in Kara. Even by itself, it's an okay card.
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>>154226651
What cards to remove? Muster and Coghammer are rare and epic, and they come from an old set so there is lesser chance of drafting them.
Keeper of Uldaman? Again, lesser chance of drafting it than any new cards despite it being a common. Not to mention paladin has no other removal for the 3 Bog Creepers every other deck will be running.
All the cards paladin got in WoG and Karazhan are shit, with some of them just mediocre like Rallying Blade or Divine Strength.

All the classes that did worse than paladin, so everything that wasn't mage and rogue, got only shit cards removed so there is a greater likelihood of not drafting garbage.

This arena rebalancing, even if ultimately imperfect, is actually pretty reasonable.
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What's the point of Barnes in this deck?
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>>154227301
I'd guess every card you could pull has some beneficial effect, but it's definitely not the point of the deck as a whole.
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>>154222759
>So the question is Blizzard...which is more important...creating frustration or avoiding redundancy?

>Answer: More RNG
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>>154227301
He doesn't really look half bad in that deck honestly. Everything's good sides Yoggo
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>>154227301
you're not supposed to brainlessly slam down barnes in that deck on turn 4, you play him later and combo what comes out with spells since most of the minions have some sort of synergy with them
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>>154226651
>Am I missing something?
You are missing paladin shifting from the bottom of tier 1 to the top of tier 2 in arena. All OP cards like muster and keeper lost their set bonus and card pool is diluted enough. I can't think of any broken paladin card in the new set. Nightbane Templar is a very crappy common in arena.
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>>154226279
You deserve this for playing secrets and divine favor in paladin
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yesmankablam #1259 NA. 80g up for grabs
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>That feel when opponent was beating my ass the entire game, drop yogg, and yogg heals me- draws me cards, board wipes his side and builds me a board so I can savage roar win next turn.


GET SHIT ON FAGGOTS. YOGG WANTED ME TO WIN ALL ALONG.
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So was Beast Druid good
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Hey guys, other than 'git gud' or non-descriptive advice, how do I get past double digit ranks, I keep on finishing at ranks 15-11.

Also, how many spells should i have used before i get mad value out of yogg? 5? 8?
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>>154229189
don't worry about spellcount, just play yogg when you're behind and have no chance of winning
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>tavern brawl
>paladin vs warlock
>he casts Wispers of the Old Gods
>I cast Arcane Explosion
this shit dumb af and I love it
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>>154228985
It's tier 3. Capable of inconsistently drawing unbeatable hands.
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>>154229189
how are we supposed to offer any help when you don't tell us what you are struggling with you faggot?
If you come here and ask "how do me get high rank" with no further information, the answer will always be "git gud", so fuck off.
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>>154229189
You don't play yogg at all if you're doing well. Yogg isn't to be played as a finisher. Yogg is strictly a "I fucked up, yogg save me" card.
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>>154229189
play good decks
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Anyone playing wild?

If so, is it less cancer? Are all control decks a n'zoth variant?
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>>154229568
>Yogg is strictly a "I fucked up, yogg save me" card.
This.
God knows how many winning games I've lost against my friend simply because he played Yogg while facing a sure loss.
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How do I know whether to take a good minion or a good spell when making an arena deck?
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>>154229823
everything above rank 10 is secret paladin
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>>154229189
Sometimes it's about deck type and the opponents you are facing in order to make the extra jump to rank 9~5.

For example last month I was not that happy with the speed I was climbing with my midrange hunter, I switched to zoolock and I went pretty fast from rank 10 to 5 because of the amount of hunters and warriors at tje end of august on ladder.

If you are struggling against a certain class you have go to vicious syndicate and check how your deck is performing against said class, you might need to switch to a different deck if you are being shutdown by bad matchups.
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>>154229823
I've risen from 20 to 15 today with some Malchezaar Priest deck thing. Weird blend of regular looking opponents and people who are clearly trying to make do with the cards they have.
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is this a good arena deck
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>>154229964
You can go to heartharena and they will literally make the deck for you. Even kripp takes their suggested card most of the time.
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>>154230701
is this a good nature boy
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>>154230701
Not enough spells for arcane golem, not enough lategame draws, not enough dedicated wam
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>>154230701
yea, its well above average. high card quality.
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>>154229823
I hit rank 5 with old tempo mage. Wasn't too bad.
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>fuck a priestcuck with a discardlock I'm testing
>He sends me a friend request after the match
>5 times in a row

I didn't even BM, I always squelch everyone at mulligan and I also never roped that match. Why are all Priest players so autistic?
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>>154231884
Maybe he just wanted to tell you how fun of a match he had :)
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>>154231925
You click the middle if you want to get easy 3+ wins.
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>>154231884
I don't know about him, but I know I add people with interesting decks simply to have people to discuss gimmick decks with.

One of my bnet buddies and I spend every set reveal talking about what cards help and what cards hurt a potential Secrets Mage deck since we both hope for the day where Ethereal Arcanist becomes playable.
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>>154232336
Boy, he sure did have a ton of fun for insisting so much.
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>>154231884
What a coincidence, I too have a situation I hate losing against and whenever I play priest, I get to experience it over and over again; aggro decks.
They mindlessly vomit minions onto the board and crusade that "Hurr noing wen 2 traed is skil!" They're right, but that's only because knowing when to trade is true for every single class in the game and is a basic bit of knowledge you need to succeed. You know what sucks ass to lose to? Mindless aggro shaman/zoolock players who haven't had an intelligent thought come through their empty heads for years but win because they can flood the board with garbage and then trade up, which priest can't do. See, while I'm thinking "Hmm, should I entomb this sylvanas when he's going to play c'thun and gain tempo, or sacrifice one of my minions (Which I won't have since I can't get on the board anyways) and save it?" aggro players are thinking "DURR ME DID IT ME PLAY COUNCILMAN WIT FORBIDEN WRITUAAL, ME SO CLEVER!" like it's an achievement. Control decks require planning and prior knowledge of the opponent's deck, while aggro requires you to think, very lightly, on whether you should ram a 5/5 with power overwhelming into a 5/5 taunt.
I mean, I netdecked an aggro shaman deck and got 7 straight wins on ladder, why am I not considered one of the best hearthstone players ever? The answer, of course, is because aggro doesn't actually require a lot of thinking. So what's better, knowing you lost to someone who's been strategically plotting his moves against you 2 turns in advance, or the monkey playing aggro?
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I want to run Scaled Nightmare!
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>>154232664
He was playing Dragon Priest wich is possibly an even more braindead than the zoo I was using. He was just playing shit on curve, at least I had to plan my discards, trades and positioning. Stop projecting controlcuck.
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>>154232664
Please don't falseflag as a Priest. It's really obvious.
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>>154232807
That's a nice 6-drop you've got there.
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>>154232664
What sucks ass to lose to is a faggot that removes every minion you play with 1 mana removals, 5 mana kill everything except your own minion and becomes Immortal with Justicar Trueskill and Catoon shelters us. Or an even bigger faggot that just steals all your shit. Control is the true cancer of HS, everyone knows this except for delusional cucktrol players.
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>>154233042
>implying it's oc and not some copypasta from plebbit or blizzard forums
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>>154232807
yeah same here, I'll hit rank 5 and try some weird dragon decks. Hiding him behind a taunt or two should help.
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>>154233305
I wouldn't know as I've never been there.
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>there were people right in this general who thought that this would see play
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>>154234352

This general thought the secret shitter huntard card was "broken" and that Malchezzar was "meta shattering" here.

/hsg/ has no credibility. But you can already tell that by skimming one general and seeing the slew of shieldbearer opinions.
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>>154234454
I'm pretty sure the consensus was that Malchezaar was hot garbage.
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al.. most.. there
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>>154206096
especially considering he is probably the most consistently good player right now and he still gets fucked constantly.
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>>154234352
I think the real problem with the card is the speed of the meta. Curvestone means that this guy just gets immediately mown down when played.

Makes me want to try him again.
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When the hell will I be able to interact with my opponent HAND. Even if its on a big fat fatty with a conditional effect.
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>>154234639
Never, because it's not FUN nor INTERACTIVE.
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>>154234538
Legit question: how long do you play HS everyday?
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Uhh... Arcane golem and pray for spells?
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>>154234454
fuck off, it was only a few shieldbearers who thought malchezaar would be good
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>>154234707
2 hours
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>>154234720
Inb4 no spells
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>>154234639
>When will I be able to stop my opponent from interacting with my combos
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>>154234720
Mini-Mage just because it might trade with a four-drop.
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>>154234705
No, its necessary.
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>>154234515

Look again at the official /hsg/ consensus then. Because you're wrong. It was a top 5 card here.
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>>154234890
Damn, how did you reach rank 1 so fast?
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>>154234720
You would need to get minimum of 4 spells to make it a 8 mana 8/8 with the condition you draw the spells first. It's complete garbage in arena.
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>>154235042
70% winrate doggie
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>>154234912
>Play mtg
>Opponent try to assemble his combo
>Meanwhile I dissect his hand while try to maintain a board
>We actually interact with each other, him fucking my shit up but taking damage, me trying to bring him down safely but losing time
>Feels good for other player when winning
You're right, HS can never achieve this. We handshake at the end.
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Is it just me or is The Curator overrated?
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>>154235147
Wow dude MtG sounds like a great game, you should play that instead
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>>154235147
>>Feels good for other player when winning
I mean feels good for who ever wins at the end. Anyways.
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Hey guys I play Magic it's a really great game (un like Hearthstone, (heh)) just wanted you guys to know that. Let me tell you this story of that one time I played magic last month it was great.
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>>154234454
Fuck off. You cherry pick retarded loud posts and forget reaction to Kindly Grandmother. /hsg/ did better than reddit on WotOG predictions and probably did better with Kara too.
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>>154235251
>instead
I play like 5 different card games

>Mtg
>Netrunner
>Vampire: the Eternal Struggle
>HS
>Shadowverse
>Magic Duels (not "exactly" magic, more like a format)
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>>154235532
That's awesome man. It's good to know you play all these sick card games but still have the time to think your shitty ideas are worth posting on a message board about a game about this lesser card game that you barely waste your time on since it's so terribly designed
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>>154235416
>Hating on magic
Why would you badmouth the father of the children game you're playing? HS is magic watered down to the point that any retard and his mother can play it.

Anyways, back to Kaladesh spoiler thread, hf
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I can't win a single brawl. Lost like 8 in a row. How do I get good.
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>>154235656
>your shitty ideas
My shitty ideas? I just said that it would be great if we could actually interact with the opponent outside of the board. This is a complain that is valid since day1 and a great amount of players feel this way.

Why not discuss it?
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>>154235416
Shouldn't you go shill for Actiblizz on/tg/ again?
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Hey guys I have this great idea to make Hearthstone more interactive like Magic.
Instead of gaining 1 mana crystal per turn, we flip a coin, whoever wins draws a free wild growth.
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>A single magic pic posted
>/hsg/ loses its mind
what the fuck? Children are back from school or something?
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>>154235521

It wasn't cherry picked. It was the official fucking /hsg/ poll you ignorant dumbfuck in denial. Fuck off.
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Oh my God I can't get over how amazing Magic is compared to Hearthstone
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>>154236016
>>154235865
>>154235656
>>154235416
>>154235251
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>>154236012
Eat shit. Enough people voiced reasonable opinion to the contrary but you ignore it in favor of shieldbearers, you dumbfuck.
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>>154236154

I'm not ignoring anything when it's the literal majority. Holy shit the fucking denial. You're objectively fucking stupid.
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>>154236012
>It was the official fucking /hsg/ poll
>official /hsg/ poll
What a great source of information!
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>>154236253
Stop posting any time
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What if WotC makes Magic a digital game? Surely since it's mechanically superior in every way, it would utterly destroy Blizzard from the digital TCG market.
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>>154236012
>official /hsg/ poll
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>>154236386
Anon its fine to shitpost about this once or twice but this is getting embarrassing.
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>>154236386
HS is CCG. Wizards are horribly incompetent at making digital Magic games, about as bad as Blizzard at balancing Hearthstone.
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Imagine a card like this in HS. It would be damn fun.
>mfw Shadowverse has cards similar to suspend
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This is my only Warrior deck.
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>>154236386
>Instead of discussing about interaction between players, I'll just shitpost endlessly hahaha. That will teach them!
/under16/ everyone
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>>154236605
loses to aggro, literally unplayable
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>>154236620
This is also my only Paladin deck.

This fucking chicken is the worst thing to happen to me.

The obsession is killing me.
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Alt win con when?
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>>154236797
>>154236620
living the dream
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>that glorious feel when you can knock out 3 quests with one hero
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>Feel like spending some dosh to get TGT packs before its too late.
>mfw no Dreadsteed
>mfw no Justicar
ffffuck
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>>154234639
Never because control is dead.
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>>154236893
Shit man, if I lost to this I wouldn't even be mad.
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>>154236893
You know, that is actually a pretty cool card. I'm impressed.
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>>154236893
this is the kind of card id like to see in hearthstone
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Easiest
Brawl pack
ever
>go in
>take Druid
>From the 3 choice offered, take shaman
>star with coin, innervate, 4 mana 7/7 and some other stuff
>turn 1 7/7
>opponent concedes
Fantastic, thanks for the pack, see you next week
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Is Moroes actually playable in any decks?
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>>154237602
Paladin. That 3/3 divine shields giver chicks is pretty great with him.
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>>154237602
Try him out in swarm Paladin. It's like having an early Justicar OR it baits out an AoE on turn 3. Good for you either way.
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>>154237690
>>154237702
Where can I find a deck list?
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>play all day in december
>reach legend
>stop playing for months
>play all day in august
>reach legend again
>lose all drive to play
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>>154236893
Damn. This is an interesting card, I would like to see it being played.
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>>154237762
>decklist
Anon just brew one up, its fairly simple. I made one for a paladin quest and dismantled it after. Super easy to put together.
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>>154237762
excuse me since this is sort of related but:

>Show Shadowverse to a friend
>he tries to google decklist
>he tries to find streamers for list
I HATE THIS GENERATION. Its a new fucking game, just FUCKING play the fucking game, how hard can it be. oh you made a mistake? Fix your deck!
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>>154237850
If it's so easy how come I can't do it huh tough guy?
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>>154236893
you an easily achieve all of those in one turn with a single thaurissan tick with a freeze mage sort of deck, except the weapon. For that you would have to count on atiesh staying in your hand for one turn.

The combo would be medivh + spell.

end turn

Angry chicken, murloc tidehunter (or tinyfin+tinyfin), ice lance, kartos

Or you play shaman, replace atiesh with stormforged axe or twilight hammer, and ice lance with frostshock. But it is a lot more difficult to assemble the combo with shaman and survive. You would have far sight to help you out though.

All other classes need frost elemental to freeze a minion (or the freezing spare part in wild), which would make it impossible to pull it off in a single turn.
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>>154237781
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>>154236605
Blade of cthun kinda, the health loss just isn't immediate
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>>154237762
I just saw someone who used it against me when I didn't have an AoE on me and saw how quickly I got overwhelmed. I think you should just experiment with, like maybe use the spell that gives any minion Divine Shield on Moroes before you drop the Darkshire chick.
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>>154237602
token druid
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>>154238028
>Add early drops (1 mana dudes like that 2/1 shield giver, 1/1 divine shield chicks, fuck I'm bad with names), add some abusive
>obviously Moroes and 2x 3/3 shield givers
>Add the usual 3 mana sword boosting shield, maybe some truesilver
>a consecrate or two
>That broken 3 mana draw a new fucking hand
>Missing two drop here probably, go find some. Flameconjurer guy?Juggler?
>Add Tirion because ots fucking Tirion
Not sure how many cards we have now but you get my point?

I could go make that for a pic but I'm sure you can do it yourself
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>>154238009
I never tried building an actual deck by myself in Hearthstone. I looked up a Secret Paladin list, dusted my cards for every single class that wasn't paladin, and just added the correct cards as fast as I could craft them. I would do things like add an annoy-o-tron if I was missing a card though
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>>154234538
I know you posted your warrior deck the other day but can you put it up again?
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>>154224780
I'm assuming no negative repercussions happened? I only did it once because I didn't want to get slapped with some bullshit ban or something.
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>>154238296
I understand anon, its jsut that... I am not against netdecking, I do it myself sometime, its fine when you want to know the meta and maybe fix your deck and whatnot.

But it drives me crazy when the game just came out, so its exploration time, but no, lets try to netdeck instead. You know, just how its fun for 2 weeks when a new set comes out, then we go back to using the most optimal decks most of the time (I still fuck around with decks, but thats when I'm done with ranking to 5 for the month)
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really like the take two drafting system, still keep getting bodied by swordcraft shitters who get the board fill legendary though
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>>154238607
Yeah take two is great. Funny how I see mostly dragon-dudes and forest-chick. I play Shadowcraft myself.
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>>154238450
Blizzard dont care, they had nothing to do with it. It's all on amazon giving away free store credit.
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Kill yourself my man.
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>>154238607
>they go second
>turn 4
>FLORAL FLURRY

Also its weird how going second is kinda eh in constructed but a gigantic advantage in take two.

Still better than elder scrolls just giving you 3 coins.
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>Hear about the Firebat tourney
>You can vote for what card you want to ban
>"Heh, that's so gay. Blizzard will just pull streaming rights anyway."
>...
>Furiously type Yogg-Saron, Hope's End in anyway because fuck it fuck it fuck that card I don't care if this is just a symbolic gesture
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this expansion has been so incredible shitty that I even forgot to buy the last wing and so dailys in this game

>go to university
>sex with teacher who likes me
>return home
>fap to Lisa Ann videos
>ladder on Shadowverse and make a fuckton of gold, packs and arena free drafts
>do homework
>oh right hearthstone

this is the most boring expansion we ever had right?

even secret paladin cancer was more interesting
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>>154239550
what did he mean by this
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>>154239550
>Lisa Ann
my bimbo nigga
Funny how I'm into that since uni as well
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>>154239550
Agreed, by far least impactful. Actually let's try to rank them. My guess:
>Naxx
>GvG
>BRM
>TGT
>Whispers
>LoE
>Karazhan
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>>154239531
ben tweeted this it at him if that counts for anything
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reynad is playing wild

hearthstone is fucking dead
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>>154239924
It's promising, but I can recognize the possibility that Ben Brode's view won't necessarily reflect that of the Blizzard company as a soulless money making entity.
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>>154239531
same desu
I'm only afraid people will vote out of spite for a bunch of dumb, but not exactly gamebreaking cards like the win axe or 477, leading to endless arguments hurrr why did you ban x and not y
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>>154240117
>I'm only afraid people will vote out of spite for a bunch of dumb, but not exactly gamebreaking cards
I voted C'Thun.
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>>154239806
i'd rate LoE higher than TGT. It turned shaman from one of the worst classes to the best and created a rather unique deck type with reno. TGT just had a lot of useless inspire shit that barely sees play.
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>>154240117
but if you want to ban the unfair rng cards, why not the unfair consistent cards?
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>>154240319
yeah i put TGT high since it added golem and tuskarr, figure that started face shaman's killing spree
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>>154240459
Cards that are consistently OP are undesirable but they don't affect tournament play as badly as RNG fiesta cards. The whole point of a tourney is to test skill so yogg deciding games is really really undesirable
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>>154240459
Because you can counter consistent cards.
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Why can't Blizzard just

1. Release good cards

2. Make a non-broken draft playmode

3. Create a balanced meta with the cards from point 1.

4. Use patches in case something gets out of hand

5. Tone down the indiscrimate RNG

6. Create non-opressive control, (real) midrange and aggro decks

Wizards can do that.
Wizards does that.
Pic related are really great cards that aren't opressive because even if Chandra is really good there's still amazing shit in Green, Black, White and Blue.

Why Blizzard can't?
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>>154240950
>60$ preorder
T_________T
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>>154241061
>he preorders

Dude what the fuck are you doing?
The only time I ever preordered was Zendikar Gideons on certain website because they had them on $20 and every other shop had them for $30 or $35 at least.
Chandra is not worth $60.
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Does Trump play HS anymore?
Every time I look he is playing some random shit.
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>>154240950
Question that's not related to your post:

how do i get into mtg without any IRL stuff? As in is it worth it to just play it virtually somehow?
Is the MTG online game any good assuming that's all i can play with, and what's the best single player MTG game to learn the ropes and start memorizing the cards?
Any good resources you would reccomend?
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How long until blizzard makes the next annoying giant?
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>>154241272
I'm not, I was just curious. I preorder boxes sometimes but thats it, and thats IF I have friends to draft with at that time.
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>>154241376
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>>154241376
>giving token druid FOUR 0 mana 8/8's
i'd tell you to fuck off, but considering that blizzard literally just did this, i could see them doing it again.
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>13 cards into his deck he even had the tharissan
charge is balanced
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>>154241739
you know its going to happen, arcane giant is literally hsg OC
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I'm really lacking cards but at the same time I wanna buy the skelly skin, should I do it?
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>>154240950
Because they don't care
HS makes enough money that they don't have to. They can do nothing and they will still get a steady cash flow that more than covers the amount of work they put into it
They don't have to make a better game so they'll continue saying the game is fine, it's only the vocal minority or the game is supposed to be silly rng and it can't be anything else
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>>154241629
lol
You should have made it "Costs (4) less for every turn you skip" and make it like 8-9 mana
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>>154241376
could be good in my control warlock deck, but make it 15 initial cost maybe so I can drop it before I win
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>>154241374
Magic is worthwhile playing IRL.
Magic online is shit, no other way to put it or explain it.
You can try the official Magic Online game, or Magic Duels, but both are unrefined, much less than HS so it's frustrating to play on them.
You can also try XMage, it's a non-official emulator with AI and ladder.

Honestly I do play Magic IRL and I love it, and online I play Shadowverse and sometimes HS just to do dailies.
I enjoy far more Shadowverse and Magic than HS.
>>
>molten's are too easy to get to 0, nerf
>so lets make a giant that any non-aggro deck can use and it's the easiest thing to get to a low cost
porque blizzard
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Is there a preferred emulator for Shoahverse? I'm not sure how much more I can take of Aggro Shaman and Dragon Warrior.
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Toughts?
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>>154242169
I'd play it in real life, but it's not possible due to where i live.
Is it the interface that's bad? I can tolerate that as long as i can get an expansive collection f2p.
Thanks anyways, i'll check the other one out as well.
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>>154241374
If you wanna get into mtg I really recommend IRL drafting to see if it's for you, it's the least investment and a good space to learn often with people who are fine with teaching. Mtg online isnt really for beginners
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>>154242463
Sadly, impossible for me to play IRL. I'm open to any suggestions to get the hang of it online as it's probably the most refined card game there is.
Always wanted to play it coming from YGO and instead ended up trying hs.
>>
everyone cue into wild and snipe reynad he is rank 23
>>
>topdecking mage gets cabalist tome out of babbling book
>the tome gives him another fucking tome
Fuck the RNG in this game
>>
>>154242617
Try the program cockatrice, it's a good start and has a single player brewing option to test out draws to see if it'll work like you want
>>
>>154242419
auto include in priest
>>
Was this mentioned? Its all the latest Brode/other chump tweets, pretty interesting and a little hilarious.

http://www.hearthhead.com/news=255768/blue-tweets-brode-talks-rng-improving-communication-and-yogg-saron
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>>154242419
does this include your opponent as well?
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Anyone have any luck with pic related or similar
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>>154243950
What's malygos for here? Seems kinda greedy with very few options to make it really pay off
>>
>>154243950
Similar.

I played it when Dark Bomb was a thing.
Now it's not a thing.
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>>154243869
Ben Brode@bdbrode

>randomness that occurs before decision making is generally good for introducing more problem solving. It can increase skill.

>because without randomness, you only need to solve the problem once and then execute over and over. See Chess (and FischerRandom)

>when a card's effect has randomness, it can sometimes feel like there was not decisions to be made afterwards. Esp. if last played.

>when it ends game, it's an easily referenced point and the game can feel like it was not decided by skill, which can be frustrating

>regardless of how many decision points were made throughout the match

> but a less skilled player would have lost the ability for a window in which being lucky would have saved them much faster.

>hard to identify those decision points that led to giving your opponent an "out". Easy to notice randomness in a card effect.

>some kinds of randomness play better than others, I think. Not in love with Bane of Doom, but I love Webspinner and Discover.

> I even liked Doomsayer/Cho from Shredder (partly because of timing of the randomness in a turn)

TLDR; Ben Brode likes random effects on a fuckton of cards because having a meta where the most skilled player consistently wins and where you can make consistent decks is cancer on his eyes
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>>154243401
Not really. It's newbie bait to trick people into thinking playing things on curve isn't the only way to win
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>Kripp and a lot of other streamers are moving from HS to other games
>Kara was the worst expansion to date
>Ladder metagame is stale as fuck
>Arena is unplayable Mage only gargabe fiesta
>Blizzard going full damage control with card bans and "we listen don't leave pls" tweets
>Still 3 to 4 months before new expansion

Where were you when this game died?
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>>154244795
glad that cancer like miracle rogue and handlock were nerfed so we could have this fun, whacky, and skill-instensive game state
>>
>>154219624
Why would they ban a shitty card in a class that performs well?
>>
>>154244850
well priest passes turns so much it wouldn't really be an issue
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>>154245401
Kripp isn't moving. Give a source.
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>>154244850
if you don't think that card is broken you're the least intelligent human of all time
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At what mana cost/stats would this effect be balanced?
>>
what does grinder mage mean
>>
You'd have to pass the first like 3 turns to even be comparable to Flamewreathed Faceless
>>
>>154245957
control mage
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>>154245897
Blizz would release that as a 5-mana 3/3
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>>154245997
why is it called grinder
>>
>>154246107
Because playing against it is a fucking grind
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>>154246107
cuz it grinds its opponent out of resources
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>>154246225
>>154246136
sounds unfun
>>
>>154246260
more fun than curvestone
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>>154246389
i dont like curvestone
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>>154246107
Grinder Mage isn't really the same as Control Mage.
Control has a defined wincon. Usually has shit like Rag and/or Tony in the deck.
Grinder is essentially a fatigue deck mixed with a value deck. You keep removing threats with either efficient removal or value minions and stall the game out until your opponent is out of shit to play.
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>>154246465
i don't like you either you piece of shit cuck
>>
>>154246602
Is Grinder Mage different than Concede Mage?
>>
>>154246672
>>154246602
samefag
>>
>>154246672
no
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>>154246260
grinder decks are the epitome of anti-fun. they are for sadists who want to ruin people's day.
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>>154246602
>Control has a defined wincon
no it doesn't
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>>154246672
Not sure what concede decks actually are.

>>154246781
Sorry bro.
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>>154246781
no

if you ever falsely accuse me again i'm calling the police
>>
>>154246945
>>154246938
>>154246889
>>154246826
>>154246787
>samefag bumping his dead game thread

pathethick
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>>154246938
Concede decks are decks designed to make the game last as long as fucking possible. Bonus points are given for roping every turn. They're called concede decks because the goal is making your opponent concede out of frustration.
>>
>>154247058
So they're like, the Sunn0))) of Control?

Thanks for clearing that up.
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>>154247189
the WHAT
>>
>>154247189
>>154247354
samefag
>>
>>154247354
It's a band. A shit one. But they have a very peculiar style. Look them up, you'll see what I mean.
>>
>>154246626
fuck off you retard go back to your shitty games
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>>154247682
>>154247630
samefag

fuck you retard mexican nigger
>>
>>154247828
fuck off you samefag
>>
Someone is having a lot of fun tonight
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>>154222620

I will quit HS the day Flamewaker is gone, Mage is the only skillful class to play in the game (besides Rogue).
>>
I love Magic so much that I shitpost on /hsg/ all day
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>>154229823

I hit legend last season with Tempo Mage/Zoo, you meet a lot of N'Zoth but there are better decks to play than Control in Wild.

Also ranks aren't real in Wild.
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anyone watching reynad right now?
this shit is gold
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>>154249202
he's right
>>
Post one more time so we can start a new thread you fucking faggots
>>
sefASASA SFAEVFS
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Fucking finally

>>154249926
>>154249926
>>154249926
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>>154188235
this.
Plebs just took it in the ass hoping things would get better.
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>>154183867
what do you mean? show and Tell is always good fun.
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