/dsg/ - Soulsborne General

Please welcome me home.

>shit souls 3
>filled to the brim with shitty references
>massive amounts of on-disc cut content that will sold as DLC
>no dynamic lighting system when even basic indie games have them
>rehashed areas
>rehashed NPCs
>rehashed animations
>invasions sucks
>Heavy armor sucks
>armor sets don't even fit properly
>brown and grey
>shit AI
>Armor variety is less than DS2 BASE game, despite copypasting a 3rd of the armors from previous games
>Magic needs 2-3 ring slots just to dish out melee level damage
>FP horribly ineffiecent with damage, ends up causing everyone to use 1 or 2 FP efficient spell like Great Heavy Soul Arrow
>Miracles awful, best and most viable one LOCKED BEHIND THE FINAL BOSS
>awful covenants
>left hand weapons no longer have full movesets
>dual wield weapons are gimmicks
>Straight Swords and Curved Sword are as fast as daggers
>Great Weapons are slower than previous games, and costs more stamina, while barely doing more damage
>1-2 Weapons ALWAYS the best in class, no redeeming qualitys for quirky weapons. In the end less weapon variety than BB
>No animation canceling
>No backstep i-frames
>rolls have too much i-frames and cost too little stamina
>bloodborne enemies catered to R1 spam from ss and cs
>hexes gone and dark magic is shit
>shittiest dragon form
>refined/hollow completely dominates
>pyromancy is the quality of casters
>19 bosses, a good chunk being gimmicks
>linear level design, less branching options than DeS, DS2, and even BB

>b-but the DLC will save it!
lmfao

1st for shit souls 3

>>154224969
Welcome back faggot

who pantless here

FFA FC at High Wall, pass is dsg
Join us!

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>>154224758
YO WADDUP

>>154224969
Welcome home, I missed you

Reminder that DaS2's combat is literally objectively better than 3's
DaS2 has
>biggest variety of weapons and useful weapon movesets, as opposed to das3 which reuses the shitty boring movesets from das1 for most weapons
>full weapon movesets in the left hand, but at least you can block with the parry dagger in 3 lol
>powerstancing, instead of a few designated pairs of dual wield weapons (enjoy having to play through 90% of the game just to be able to dual wield straight swords)
>gradually increasing rolls, rather than 3 tiers only one of which is useful
>i-frames on backsteps adds another way to avoid hits and switch up your game up, riskier than rolling but also comes with a bigger reward since you recover faster and can do a running attack right away
>shield slap is more useful than das3's slow kick, which isn't a guaranteed guard break like in das2 but is also not as fast as the kick in das1
>roll cancels, attack cancels, delayed and sped up attacks, and sped up parries added another layer of depth to the combat for higher skill players, are the one of the reasons pretty much everything is viable in das2, and are all missing in das3
>magic is actually viable, even as your main weapon, not just due to the high damage but also the variety of spells and spell cancels
>poise system is a perfect combination of poise and hyper armor, wherehaving some poise might just let you shrug off a single hit from a rapier, but gets increased when swinging a big weapon to the point where you can poise through a katana, as opposed to das3's dumbed down hyper armor system with no poise where R1 spam is rampant and you have hope your opponent is dumb enough to run right into your swing, and good luck doing that when you can attack cancel
>2 handed parrying and weapons with unique abilities which are actually useful like the fume ultrasword, blue flame, puzzling sword, bone fist, alonne sword, santier's spear and throne watcher sword, unlike the shitty weapon arts in das3

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>die
>my hits register and he dies too
>get kicked out without my reward

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Post your first ds3 webm

https://youtu.be/TcdH4HlDZKs
Probobly the hardest I luaghed in a dark souls 3 build

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>>154225571
This spell was cool to me

>>154224758
What's the best backup weapon for a rhh bad match ups

>>154225079
It's dat mum!
Oh shit, whattup?

How viable is 30/30/30/30 str/dex/int/fth build at level 130? I'm using izalith staff and sword of judgement primarily.
I got bored, so I'm trying a jack of all trades style, focusing on dark sorceries.

>Black Knight Shield is worn by the player upside down
>can't stab with it

>>154225741

Any of the good straight or curved swords.

>Arton Returns home
what?

>>154225973
accidentally used normal estus instead of ashen
couldn't find a ledge to kill myself so I just BC'd out

>enter the mist
>surely it won't be another big guy in a suit of armor
>....
>it is

The team they call B

>>154225771
Going to hit like shit

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>>154225079
I want to see this guy drop it likes it hot.

>>154226061
no sudoku sword?

>>154226072
>enter the mist
>surely it won't be another big guy in a suit of armor
>....
>it is

The team they call A

>>154226084
What's the softcap on dark scaling?

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>>154225571

I hate how phantoms can kill you after you destroy the host of embers.

>>154226263
had it in the storage

>>154225571
https://webmshare.com/play/8xjZV

How do you feel knowing Bloodborne is the pinnacle of Souls design?

So was did that giant Kiln looking door in the Centipede Demon room ever turn into something or was it just another casualty of rushing the Demon Ruins and Izalith?

>>154226520
people actually use the storage for things other than self refilling consumables?

>>154226837
It's useful for keeping your weapons and rings organized. It's a pain in the ass sifting through 50 weapons I'll never upgrade every time I want to switch

>>154226837
I put every weapon I don't use in storage. Don't want all that clutter.

>>154226657
>bloodborne
>souls

>>>/bbg/

>>154226916
this

>>154227021
>soulsborne general
stop that

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What's the best Dark Souls 3 ending? I'm leaning toward linking the flame but I also kind of want the cycle to end. In DAS1 I thought refusing to link the flame would bring in the age of dark but it seems like in this game, not linking it will actually be when that time comes.

Also from a roleplay perspective, I feel like my character would say "To hell with this" and take the fire for himself. Not bound by loyalty or royalty. Not becoming a savior or a lord. Just being done with what everyone tells him to do and trying to find his own path. Maybe I'm reading into it the wrong way.

Well, spamming R1 with hollowslayer got me real hungry, i'm out, thanks for hosting

Don't you ever try to dark hand me again you cute fuck

>>154227224
We'll see about that

>>154227167
Making Londor Great Again of course

>>154227167
i like the fire dying, we've been told about it going out forever and it's the best "end of dark souls" ending

>>154227312
It's kind of my fault, I tried to parry it because you could in ds1

>>154227167
The best ending is throwing shit souls 3 in the trash and playing a good Souls game

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how could this be improved and where should i be invading?

gonna try grab prisoners chain but it might be a bit hard with only a +4 weapon

>>154227316
Well I didn't marry Anri so that ending is ruled out. I'll try that one next time.

>>154227343
Yeah I feel that way but the entire game I keep asking "Why wouldn't x link the fire" and now that I'm finally at the end I'm considering not doing it either. I mean we've seen an age of dark. It's not...that bad right?

>attack Sirris in the shrine
>kept hitting her until she had one pixel of hp left
>run up the stairs and then jump down
>the absolute madwoman actually jumps after me and dies from the fall

That's what you get you estoc shitter.

>>154227460
Like DaS?

>Invaded by Ninja
>Using CCS
Hes a quadruple faggot for not following the cosplay rules and chugging, and almost losing to a sorcerer

Anyone else picking weapons on how cool their name sounds?

Thanks for Hosting man, but i gotta go

>>154227554
the fire supposedly comes back for another cycle anyway, chilling in the dark with firekeeper waifu might not be so bad

>>154227564
>go to shrine
>aggro caster fucks
>aggro Sirris
>aggro Yuria
>aggro Hawkwood
>aggro Leonhard
>aggro Sirris
>aggro Eygon
>kill all of them
>kill useless firekeeper

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what the fuck was that FUGS damage lmao

>>154227651
who's this ninja guy he's cosplaying that doesn't use estus?

>>154227797
lmao, nice game

>>154227797
The FUGs completely missed, that was magic hitting you.

>>154227838
Estus doesnt exist in the real world, duh

>>154227782
Huh, that sounds like it would be fun.
I have a broken blessed mail breaker that I occasionally use to beat the shit out of the firekeeper

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No more signs, so I guess that's it for now. I have some things to do anyway.
Thank you all for showing up, the FFAs were pretty fun. Was it alright that I spammed some useless spells?

>>154227980
>giant as weapon lands right next to the toe
>0 damage

>a longsword hits you from 3 feet away
>quarter of your health gone

>>154227797
I don't think I hit you on my screen- you can see me lagging into you on your webm

>>154225079
>>154225749
>oh well, what is it!

>>154228105
Doesn't mean they wouldn't estus if they had it!

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/76474

Is this a good pyro build? Is pyro nerfed now? I raised Str/Dex for the Great Corvian Scythe but I don't know if it's worth it even after the buff, plus the Sage Ring combined could make a missed shot more devastating. I thought it would be fun for PvE though, use the Greatknife or Thrall Axe as for PvP. I'm also not sure if I'may doing it wrong with Vig/End, I think 550 end would raise my casting speed and allow me to roll out of harm's way, but is 15 Vig going to keep me alive at all?

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>>154224989
>>154224994
>>154225135

this can't be more than one supremely butthurt individual, right?

no one else in their right mind would think das2 is better than Das3

>>154228185
thanks for hosting
didn't mind the spells at all, they added some more chaos to the battlefield

>>154228185
>Was it alright that I spammed some useless spells?
Yes. But I didn't appreciate that fireball after killing depression

Jk, i had a good laugh

>>154228314
ds2 fanbase is extremely loud and assmad after ds3 retconned their game both in terms of 95% of lore and gameplay mechanics, filter and move on

>>154228340
You were invisible and I wanted to attune some shitty spells, killing you was the easiest way bb

>>154228314
>34:50
>34:53

You tell me.
They are also right.

>>154227838
>tfw can't play DS3 online so I can't make a Light Rail Avenger cosplay

>>154228467
>invisible
This can only mean I will haunt you from now on.

>>154228463
thank god, i thought i was trapped in a mad house

>tfw thought about upgrading the farron meme sword but after seeing how that guy who used them at the FC got instaparried at his first attack I lost all will to even try
No fun Souls 3

>>154228314
>>154228463
literally only one of these MENTIONED ds2
why do ds2 and ds3 apologists always assume that somebody who doesn't like their game must be a huge fan of the other one

is the fc dead?

>>154228590
d-does that mean you will join every fc I have and hide in the corners

>>154227497
CE a darkmoon ring? or is this xbox?

>>154228291
search pyro builds on mugenmonkey. you might learn something.

>>154226072
This is a stupid meme because DS2 had almost as many bosses that weren't a big dude in armor than DS3 had bosses total.

>>154228609
idk who got parried, but i used it during the FFA with scarce results, not enough spin4me (didn't get parried however)

>>154228610
because only ds2 tards have such a massive hate boner towards ds3

>>154228314
>>154228463
Nice arguments

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>>154228185
Thanks for hosting. I didn't mind the spells, just adds extra spice to the FFA.

On an unrelated note, Depression's ghost was extraordinarily distracting when it showed up on my screen

>>154228735

>>154228185
no

>>154228738
Maybe. Watch out. 8^]

>>154228892
That is some concerning delusion.

>>154228928
hologram spell when

>>154228928
My own clone

>>154228927
do you really want me to post a huge ass list of all of dark souls 2's faults? they're widely known at this point

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>>154228928
w-what the fuck

>>154228938
YES
If you want more memes, you better become the host now

>>154229028
Please don't

>>154229109
Faults of one game doesn't justify the faults of another. Get that through your Miyazaki cock-sucking head.

>>154229141
I would gladly host some autism if vordt or cancer was alive in my world

>>154228863
Those fantastic bosses like

>rehashed Gargoyles
>Rat Sif
>Quelaag's stunt double
>discount Ornstein&Smough

I need to git gud, /dsg/

...but how?

>>154229181
the fact that i know das3 is better than das2 somehow makes me a miyazaki drone? that's quite a few logical fallacies i see there

>>154229357
>discount Ornstein&Smough
Also included in the "big guys in armor" category; Ornstein & Smough, hold the Smough.

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>>154229141
it's too late, prepare to get spooked

>>154229403
DeS - lmfao 2kat, r1 spam with longsword
DaS1 - Have to actually play the game to get good stuff
DaS2 -play the game
DaS3 - r1 spam with longsword
BB - r1 spam with cleaver/spear, get better at parrying, play the game, die a million times go through chalice grind to get top tier gems

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>ds2 vs ds3 circlejerk started again

dear ds2 fanboys, please look up the animation of alonne bewitched sword's L2, grab a sharp tool and try to do it in real life

dear ds3 fanboys, please look up the animation of bloodlust's L2, grab a sharp tool and try to do it in real life

>>154229181
the fact that those spam posts of complaints are posted on a threadly basis shows that there's more biases than miyazaki lovers

>>154229453
>still deflecting to DS2 to justify the existence of DS3

End your life

>>154229683
Its because those spam posts are right, and hopefully some intern takes notice of them

Since based Miyazaki is president of the company, did he fire the B team?

>>154229638
>DaS2 fans calmly provide arguments for why their game is better
>DaS3 fans shit all over the floor and start crying about people not liking their favourite game
DaS3 fags are the only ones that should commit sudoku tbqh

>>154229357
Dude, the argument was about big dudes in armour instead of the bosses being rehashes.

I don't mind a rehash if the bossfight feels different enough and is entertaining. Like you could say that the Gargoyles are just a rehash of Maneaters but it was entertaining fight nonetheless.

>>154229403
Join the FCs!

>>154229872
oh please, a lot of those are subjective and just plain complaining.

>hopefully some intern takes notice

oh yeah, a FROM intern totally browses /vg/...

besides, i could make a list of all of das2's faults, wouldn't change anything.

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>Replying to obvious shitposts
>Replying to copypasta

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>>154227980
there's actually no way to tell, neither were close to hitting him when he took damage

Anyone for prince lothric :3? On pc.

>>154230167
It did change something when people cried about DS2. They brought none of the good mechanics back.

>>154229969
what an excellent post to prove his point, please kill yourself

>>154229872
>hopefully some intern takes notice of them
exes
my sides

>>154228610
It's funny, I always try to get them to say they think DaS 2 is a great or the best game, but they only have the balls to go for small prey like 3 and know everyone would shit on them if they tried talking shit more

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>>154230167
A lot of the things I wished for DS2 and DS3 in here actually happened. I was pretty spooked, actually.

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Redpill me on shadow servers and/or Depression

>>154230167
>subjective

Point out the subjective stuff in this post
>>154224989

>>154230263
that's just plain wrong and you know it. stop being a memeing fuck

>soul memory isn't back
>red eye orb is back
>adaptability is gone

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>>154230253
>implying they both didn't hit at once
>implying this isn't their accumulated damage

>>154230083
This. I got gud at dealing with invaders and pvp in general just by watching some of you nimble niggers, let alone fighting.

>>154230398
I actually wished for that quickslot bar.
what more did you wish?

>>154230401
The "shadow server" is a meme reddit made up to explain why they kept getting "failed to invade" when they tagged expired signs

>>154230302
No, YOU are proving my point by being a raging autist who still can't provide any arguments in favour of DaS3 and can't refute any of ones against it, go back to your linear casual spammy shitfest and stop shitting up the fucking thread your garbage posts

>>154230407
subjective

>shit souls 3
number 1
>filled to the brim with shitty references
what makes a reference shitty? how many to be considered "filled to the brim"? were none of them good? didn't das2 have references as well?
>massive amounts of on-disc cut content that will sold as DLC
every fucking souls game has tons of on-disc content, usually cut for time or balancing reasons
>no dynamic lighting system when even basic indie games have them
what are you even talking about? the lighting is fine, hollowing gets rid of your shadow
>rehashed areas
you mean anor londo? that's one, and it was literally only the cathedral
>rehashed NPCs
is that a complaint? why shouldn't they return?
>rehashed animations
gee wiz, just like every souls game
>brown and grey
there's plenty of color and beautiful areas
>shit AI
wrong

at this point it's turning into a chore to sift through this garbage post

I liked DaS2
It had its faults, but it was a pretty good change of pace from what DaS1 was. I feel like some of DaS3's problems stem from it latching onto DaS1 too hard

>>154230985
All of those are correct points.

Nothing subjective about them. Stay deluded.

>>154230894
Somebody mentioned not being able to see summon sign after co-op'n with a really laggy host, and then said somwthing about shadow servers. Not that im disagreeing with you, but thats whay i asked, because it happens to me all the time. When i first boot up the game, summon signs everywhere, after and few co-op games, i hardly ever see any. I have shit Internet thiugh so im sure that has more to do with it than anything.

>>154230401
>shadow server
Essentially like being banned, except you get no warning, can't use circlet and see no signs/invasions. We don't even know if it's true or just some people being retarded.

>depression
A sad sickness or a slut

>>154230978
drink bleach you fucking faggot, spaming the thread with whiny posts about minor issues and subjective grievances is absolutely the definition shitting up the thread with garbage posts

>shit souls 3

WOW what an insightful and worthwhile post!

quit acting like a fucking baby

>>154231025
Nobody is judging you anon, Dark Souls 2 have it's flaws, but I had good time with it
After all no one is offended and get butthurt because of someone opinions right?

Why was ds3 so flawed? Like, there was DS1, DS2 and BB, all with great points and flaws, and they decided "Hey, lets take the worst parts of all the games and make Ds3, and watch the fans eat our shit and try to defend us to justify their purshase". Was it that happened?

>>154230439
>weapon moveset
>weapon variety
>a mixture of proper poise and hyper armor
>asectics
>NG+ variations
>no blue eye invasion
>arenas designed for 1v1 autists
>no pve covenant

I could go on. But now you'll say "those were bad ideas" like the memeing fuck you are.

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To offset all the fucking butthurt about the games, here's something all of the games did well or added to the formula :

Demons :
>set the baseline for the series
>World Tendency
>clear levels, probably the most challenging levels in general

Dark Souls 1 :
>awesome,interconnected level design
>added covenants
>added poise as a mechanic
>had the best weapon upgrade and blacksmith system

Dark 2 :
>Actual new NG+ content
>you can aim crossbows
>the torch mechanic was a cool idea
>sweet spot expanded
>ultra weapons were great
>best game for fashion souls
>aiming spells works well in this game
>hexes and miracles actually useful

Dark 3 :
>gameplay feels tight and responsive
>best covenants, low threshold to invading
>best bosses of the series
>also great game for Fashion souls

>>154231129
Hey my man i just wanted to say we're all psyched to have you shitposting here with us today, it really is a pleasure

>>154231025
The funny thing is, 3 is closer to DeS than DaS, except for references and honestly, no reference moved me too much one way or another, save for SoC which I found way too forced.

>>154231379
Why was ds2 so flawed? Like, there was DS1, DS2 and Des, all with great points and flaws, and they decided "Hey, lets take the worst parts of all the games and make Ds2, and watch the fans eat our shit and try to defend us to justify their purshase". Was it that happened?

>>154231296
When people start fighting over which game was better I just like to throw out that both games have their flaws and perks. All I can hope for is that all the good parts of all the games merge, and we get a super diverse, fun, well-crafted Souls game. The games as they are are pretty fun now, but it wouldnt hurt to dream of what could perhaps be, if From really started to get their shit together and pay close attention to valid criticisms.

>>154231261
I've been in the shadow server some hours ago, basically i got there by invading a laggy guy (why the fuck me and not him), while you're there, if you manage to get summons they're always laggy. You get out of it automatically after some time

>>154231390
>weapon arts
>implying every fucking souls game's pvp wasn't an unbalanced mess
>no soul memory
>no adaptability
>enemies and bosses are designed better
>mound makers

kill yourself

>>154231442
Like clockwork. DS3babbies can't even defend their own game with their own arguments.

>>154230439

Soul memory was a blessing in disguise. It stopped retards from reddit and /dsg/ to try to determine an artificial cap that happens to match the level of their min-maxed low level build and that unable more expensive builds.

This shit killed Ds3 pvp.

>>154231608
and the first post had any arguments? it's a list of conclusions without back up

Das2 kids, please stop shitposting

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Pvp was a mistake

>>154231598
Moundmakers are red phantoms recolored with easier requirements. I don't even know why people praise it so much. Your sign even says dark spirit so it never confuses the host.

>the rest of that post
lmfao, soul memeory was replaced with shitty invasion mechanics, and WA are 90% trash, adaptability replaced with vitality.

>>154231627
>Soul memory was a blessing in disguise

das2 babies, everyone

>>154229638
>look guys, im telling pepol 2 kill thmslevs, im so kewl xD

>>154224758
>[Embed] [Open]
>too lazy to link the last thread haha memes xD
shit OP

>>154224758
>soulsborne
Someone fucked up

>>154231827
except mound makers can kill enemies

weapon arts add more to the game, they are inherently a benefit to the game.

and vitality actually gives equipment load and isn't required, unlike adaptability which was fucking tied to i frames

DS1>BB>DeS>=SoftS>DS2>DS3

prove me wrong
pro tip
you can't

i mean
thanks for increasing perseverance on greathammers and all
but even a moron has ample time to roll backwards once you activate it

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>>154231945
>look guys, im havng pointles and stupid arguments on \dsg\, im so kewl xD

>>154232072
>Ds2
>not dead last

already did, kid

>>154232072
DS1=DS3=BB=DES=Nioh>DS2>Salt and Sanctuary>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lords of the fallen

>>154231282
>minor issues
>subjective grievances
LMAO. You still haven't offered a single good argument in favor of DaS3 or disproved any of the ones against it as you keep tip toeing around the subject while shitting up the thread

I'm not one to get angry easily but your annoying faggot ass managed to do it, mcfucking kill yourself

>>154232063
>except mound makers can kill enemies

Just like DeS red phantoms, WOW SO ORIGINAL (but an underage DS3baby like you probably didn't know that)

>weapon arts add more to the game, they are inherently a benefit to the game

Literally copypasted movesets from powerstanced weapons in DS2

Defending Vit being useless is a new low for DS3babys

>>154232225
how about you read the thread you lazy illiterate nigger? i've defended das3 plenty and shot down das2's "improvements"

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>>154230889
I wished for :
>enemy patrols that mix up the encounter timings a bit(3 delivered)
>sentries that alert enemies to your presence(3 delivered)
>NPC invaders that use dirty tricks and tactics(2 delivered)
>NG+ featuring changed up setups of enemies and additional enemies and more ahit in NG+(2 delivered)
>being able to aim crossbows(2 and 3 delivered)
>weather effects that affect gameplay (2 delivered)
>being able to help the area boss fighting alongside the boss(2 delivered)
>a forest protector covenant where you work for one of the bosses of the game (3 delivered)
>a boss that you can fight in multiple parts of the level (2 delivered)
>a mounted bossfight where in the second phase you'll fight the dismounted rider (3 delivered)

>>154232343
your blatant shitposting is not worth responding to anymore

you das2 kids need to go grow up before you can post here

>>154232350
if this was you
>>154232063
>>154231598

Then you're a complete retard

>>154232343
>can kill enemies Just like DeS red phantoms

Whoah I played the game and didn't know that

>>154232214
Can we at least use only From games on these?

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Streaming a ds1 Playthrough. Warrior with master key. You tell me where to go.

twitch@comfywarrior

>>154232517
please explain how those posts are wrong, i dare you

>>154232483
>loses argument
>s-shitpost!

lmfao

>>154232552
No because not including those other shitty games makes ds2 look way worse than it actually is

>>154232531
It was amazing because if you killed a non respawning enemy and then killed the host, their loot was lost until the next playthrough.

>>154232072
God tier
Demon's Souls
Dark Souls
Dark Souls 2
Bloodborne

Linear, casual pandering, R1 mashing, roll spamming, instant estus piece of rotten garbage only liked by subhumans tier
shit souls 3

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i don't know why Das2 fans get so defensive, being the worst souls game doesn't make it a bad video game

i'd rather play Das2 than 95% of all other games

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>>154232565
Go to hell, and take your friends with you!

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>great machete sharpen is 10% bonus and lasts 35 seconds
>butcher knife is only 5% and only lasts 25 seconds, with some shitty hp regen thrown in
fuck
even war cry would be better

on a 66str build manserpent hatchet beats BN
yes, one of the TWO S SCALING STR WEAPONS, ISN'T EVEN GOOD ON A STR BUILD

>>154232776

for fuck's sake dude, get over it. this is just sad.

>>154232783
>DS3baby completely anal-devastated

>>154232776
No
God tier
BB
DaS

Great tier
DeS

Shit tier games whose fans can only defend them by attacking the other but don't have the balls to say they're better than the better games
DaS 2
DaS 3

>>154232927
jesus, looks like i'm not wrong.

>>154232565
Directly to blighttown, down the great hollow and get the dragon gs

What are some good weapons to make chaos/dark? I know they tend to scale differently but I'm not sure where to start looking for which ones work the best. Ideally ones that don't have super high stat requirements.

Unrelated: How useful is armor in III? I know it tends to really vary in usefulness between games. Should I really only be concerned about poise or does the damage resistance actually help any? Does even poise matter? Should I just dress how I like?

>>154233050
>he does that and gets cursed

I'm watching the stream just because I hope this happens

Can someone list 15 weapons that better as either STR or DEX but not quality in DS3?

>>154232996
let's not pretend there aren't faggots you spam the same shitposts against das3 on a threadly basis

shit gets annoying, and when you call them out on it they get defensive

>>154233201
1. Yhorm's Great Machete

>>154233201

2. Great Club

>>154233210
Then ignore the posts, novel idea

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>>154231025
I fucking loved the concept of the Pursuer but I didn't like how he was used since in the base game they made him appear twice and it was too easy to avoid him. It would've been better if they had made the non-boss forms faster to kill but made him appear more, use more weaponry and give up less easily
>yfw Pursuer would appear in Shrine of Ameme

>>154233201
#Butcher knife

>>154233210
I only do that because it shuts them down immediately. They can only defend 2 by shitting on 3 and the rarer but still equally annoying DaS 3 moments are all shitting on 2 while neither side comes and say, my favourite game did this.

>>154233201

STR:

Spiked Mace, Great Club, Large Club, Vordt's Hammer, Smough's Hammer, Dragon Tooth, Great Wooden Hammer, Great Mace, Pickaxe, Yhorm's Great Machete, Gundyr's Halberd, Fume Ultra Greatsword, Cathedral Knight Greatsword, Butcher's Knife (LOL)

Dex:

Chaos Blade, Sharp Dagger, uh...

Who are /dsg/'s finest fighters
I will tear them apart one by one

>>154233425
>after you collect the lord souls and on NG+ the pursuer appears at least once per area
>if you don't kill him, he enters through the boss fog

a-anyone wanna duo lothric? PC

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>Want to make dragon rider build on das2 for old times sake
>optimal start is sorcerer

>want to make a new character on das3
>have to beat the game 2.5 times to finish it

>want to start bloodborne
>indesisive about wheter i should pay for sonybox live for 1 game

JUST
should i just work on my backlog?

>>154233448
as someone you loves Das3 the most, i'll be the first to admit that there are serious flaws. Poise being the most annoying to me

but there's no way anyone can honestly say that Das2 is and overall better game

>>154233448
>while neither side comes and say, my favourite game did this.
>>154225135

>>154232565
>open stream
>kills BK
>gets his sword

Was fun while it lasted

>>154233605
Start Bloodborne.

Vanilla DaS2's problem as far as I remember

>below par world design. Forest of the Fallen Giants' color palette is just gray and green
>fps related durability bug
>Soul Memory
>Stunlocks (Tanimura Rush, Bastard Sword, powerstanced lances)
>no full eye orbs
>invasions barely exists I've started /dsg/ when DaS2 released and everybody was complaining about how you can run through the game twice and get less than 3 invasions
>Plastic Faraam Armor
>some NG+ spells, but can be acquired through arena covenants
>invaders can only heal through spells while hosts have estus and life gems

How are the flaws of DaS2 compare to DaS3's?

>>154233201
yhorms
tooth
great club
gundyr's (marginally)
greataxe
FUGS
butcher knife (but it's only like 10AR more than other axes and worse in other ways)

chaos blade
bloodletter maybe?

>>154233518
cathedral is better on quality fyi

>>154233518
>Cathedral Knight Greatsword

>heavy/warrior/66 STR/10 dex/51 total stat investment
>568 AR 2H

>refined/knight/40 STR/35 Dex/50 total stat imvestment
>573 AR 2H

>>154233741
don't forget adaptability and the largest collection of the worst souls bosses

Das3 has issues with poise, invasions prioritizing gank squads, and refinement infusion gems

Okay, we are all aware of the gear that new shitters wear, but are there any clear tells that you're encountering someone who knows what they're doing?

>>154232072
Switch DS2 and DS3 and you got it

>>154232996
DS3 is better than 1 though, it's just less original with a worse world layout. It's got fewer bad bosses (and those that are bad can be blown over), better individual levels, more roll direction (needs to consume more stamina though(, better looks (not to say they're great), better poise system, and better PvP.

>>154233916
Mimic head, in every game. If they're not doing it for jokes, they really know how to fuck you up

>>154233828
Fucking hackazaki

>>154233584
Post qt face

>>154234046
>greatsword went from S scaling str in ds2, to just another quality weapon in ds3
>along with LITERALLY EVERY ugs except for FUGS

>>154233916
Completely naked

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TFW whether DS2 or DS3 is better they're both head and shoulders above 90% of games on the market today. I'm a big fan of 3 but I still go back to DS 1, 2 and Demon's when I'm in the mood.

>>154231407
This anon makes solid points. Prefer 1 & 3 to 2, but there was plenty to enjoy in Drangleic. Given the fact that its production was a shitshow I'm impressed it managed to be good at all.

>>154232460
Good predictions. Too bad we couldn't get them all in 3. Mirror Knight/Pursuer were fun and I really loved the NG+ switches in 2. Never forget the based Falconers.
HATED the fucked up farming mechanics in DS2 though. I shouldn't need to pay a fucking blood debt to get a Catarina set ffs.

>>154232783
This. 2 was damn good, even if it's not my favorite. Haven't played Scholar of the First Sin. Heard that fixed the lore some.

>>154233425
This.
Also fugg I wish Lindelt got more to it in the story. Archdrake Clerics were rad as hell.

I don't understand. I thought everything being quality was the golden age that Kobra promised?

:^)

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shameless Witchfu postan

>>154233689
Now ignore all the posts that defend it in some way with "but 3 did this"
And we're left with
>i-frames on backsteps adds another way to avoid hits and switch up your game up, riskier than rolling but also comes with a bigger reward since you recover faster and can do a running attack right away

>magic is actually viable, even as your main weapon, not just due to the high damage but also the variety of spells and spell cancels

Everything else compares it to 3. Why do you do this? Why do you need to compare DaS 2's quality to 3 instead of simply rating it by itself? An why do DaS 3 fags always pull this shit too?

im gay xD

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doesn't it make sense though if someone is both very strong and very dexterous, wouldn't that be better than someone who is only strong or only dexterous?

>>154234734
Yes we know

>>154234715
Das3 fans do it in retaliation to the daily spam posts. gets on our nerves

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>>154234675
witchfus are bestfus

>>154234783
>videogames

PC FC WHERE

>>154233916
it wont matter if you dont underestimate your opponent. Usually cautious players that wait to find out what i have/use/playstyle/ect. before beginning any sort of serious fight gives off that sort of "knows what they're doing" vibe to me though.

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>>154234675
Witches make me so hard.

>>154234783
>making sense in 2016

You've some catchin' up to do there lad

>>154234715
I compared it to show how much the latest entry has regressed from the previous game, all those points still stand on their own

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>>154235115
you're not the only one
>DaS2 black witch set
HHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG

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>>154234675 >>154234926 >>154235115
G-glad to hear it anon. That's real 'fuckin Nito

>>154234783
It does. Problem is, there's only 4 stats worth shit in 3, 5 if you're a pyro or 4 but one needs to be 60 if another caster.
Given that the meta level is 120, you get to softcap 4 stats which is perfect for them since, to make the game balanced, stats do have awful scaling after the cap.

The problem is, the "community" just decided an arbritary level to stop because past games the other options of 80 and 150 aren't much better so the only way variety could work would be if they made luck, vit and end better or increased stat scalings all over the board

>>154234932
>>154235257
i'm just saying refined infusions aren't too nonsensical

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>>154225571

>>154235394
i've always said we should stop at 100

and i've seen a few luck/bleed builds.

Vitality/Vigor/Stamina stat shouldn't exist, the only stats that should exist are:

Simply leveling up increases HP and Stamina as it should be a core principled

>Strength - governs equip load, gives more HP per level than the other stats
>Dexterity - governs roll distance, gives more stamina per level than the other stats
>INT - governs item use speed
>FAI - governs increase in hyper armour
>LCK - governs fall damage

Then you can add some stats, like Resistance stat that really works and gives good returns

Prove me wrong

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>>154234582
>in NG+ Freja attacks you mid-level in Brightstone Cove
>if you deal damage to him there, it'll stay to the bossfight
>they never did shit like this again
>unique NPC phantoms in NG+

I'm so butthurt when DS3 didn't have touches like this since it could've improved the already good PvE a lot

>Anor Londo bridge spawns a Sullyvahn's Beast in NG+
>Red Phantom Lothric Knights in bridge to Homoprinces
>more Outrider Knights hidden in the game world
>Aldritch beast lying in ambush at the ceiling of Cleansing Chapel in NG+
>Crystal Sage in Grand Archives gains more places he can teleport to

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I'm about to pick up pick related on PS4.
What are some not too OP builds for noobs? Something like a knight with sword and shield or whatever. I've heard I should get vig or vit and end to 20 asap, and then what?
Only souls game I played before was Bloodborne and I finished at Rom because I had to return it.
Help.

>>154235578
The benefits luck gives to bleed are so insignificant you can replicate them with rouge or rotten pine if you want to fuck with poison for some reason. That's a problem with those items though, of course.
At that level casters suffer to damage and become glass cannons, only they're cannons with such lousy aim they should just carry swords

>>154234715
>riskier than rolling
Now that's bullshit honestly. It requires better spacing but a rollpunish and a backstep punish aren't any different, so there's no worse a risk, and backstep parrying is easy to get away with even if you fail,given that jesters is a thing and you can parry from pretty far away in 2. I dislike how they really aren't that useful in 3 but they were absurdly safe in 2.

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>>154235636
>more Outrider Knights hidden in the game world

>>154235710
Level adaptability to 26 or the game becomes bullshit.

>>154235710
they tied adaptability to i-frames. it's basically a mandatory stat

>>154235757
I'm not the original poster, I was just quoting him

>>154235613
>Simply leveling up increases HP and Stamina as it should be a core principled

You should probably just go play a different game

>>154235710
Level Adaptability and Vigor in the beginning, Adaptability up so that your agility is over 92.

>>154235636
>no boss fight changes

This is what disappoints me the most. 2 did this far too little and with rather irrelevant bosses.
They could just make pontiff's clone desynch, add more AWs to the fight, make Yhorm endure stormruler or increase DSA's pilgrim barrages, those would probably not even be hard to code or change

>play on ps4
>everybody applauds and black crystals my meta weapons
>play on pc
>everybody fights my meta weapons normally like anybody with a functioning brain would
what gives

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>>154235868
>mfw played the game completely blind with base ADP
>heard about ADP afterward

>>154235868
>>154235870

So should I ignore str and dex? Also, what starting class is ok for a shithead? And what weapons should i focus on? How early should I level them up?

>>154235968
He's not wrong, but that's because health is such a mandatory stat that the best build in 3 is always vitgouge then damaging stats and they can't balance health while making it not too useless to invest or too good not to get

>Crystal Soul Spear
>Costs 3 times as much as Great Heavy Soul Arrow
>Only does 40% more dmg
I guess if you had unlimited FP itd be worth it, but cmon, even with diminishing returns thats kinda silly. Just reduce the FP cost. Just a bit.
Or make it deal more damage, this shit is supposed to be the strongest sorcery. Yknow, invented by Seath, is a giant fucking crystalline spear. It deserves a little more power than what its got.

>>154235394
>The problem is, the "community" just decided an arbritary level
What? the SL in DS3 is no different from other games, and it's not arbitrary. 125 was chosen in 1 because it let you make a softcapped quality build. In 2 you needed to be around 170 for a softcapped quality build with good iframes, so people went to 150 and slid to 200 due to SL decaying their characters. In DS3 you need to go to 120 to hit 39/40/40/40 on a knight and 115 on a warrior. SL is selected based off of the options available.

>>154235079
PLEASE RESPOND

>>154236275
>So should I ignore str and dex?

why the fuck would you do that? don't forget you're playing a souls game

use some common sense

>>154236241
wow, I regret not buying a PS4 for bloodborne and DS3 with a better community now
this sounds like something that could make metashitters less common

>>154236241
>PS4 actually filters cancer and shows them they're not welcome

>>154236568
>>154236507
>>154236241
>wahhh why can't you just let me win wahhh
typical sonybrony

>>154236568
>>154236507
It's no wonder PS4 players are so terrible at the game.

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>>154235636
>more carthus shotel dudes in the catacombs (plus makes said weapon easier to farm)
>additional ourtrider knights
(bears repeating)
>more pus of man ambushes in +
>additional dragonslayer Armour before getting to Lothric? Liked that fight.
>maybe sprinkle some more darkwraiths in the world for good measure
My primordial serpent is so hard right now you guys

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>>154236661
>admitted not owning a PS4
>sonybrony
lol

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>thief mask on a female character
>hornet ring riposte animation
>unlocking a shortcut after a long stretch of combat

>>154236146
Maybe two Dragonslayer Armours? Could do like the Dragonrider fight later on.

>>154236780
i do own a ps4 shithead

>>154236389
SL meta should be decided based on the level with optimal amounts of builds available to the player. 120 is not good for 3 because anything that is not quality suffers from fighting at that level, whereas other games at least had more options (even if not that further).

Can anyone on ps4 help with Mr Big skelington? Waiting at bonfire, password iuiui

>>154236819
>thief mask on a female character

Brehs...

I thought i was the only one

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>>154236878
"I regret not buying a PS4"
?????

>>154236980
it was pretty hot in ds1 and 2, but they fucked it up in 3
the old thief mask and ds3 thief mask should've both been present in ds3

>>154236887
>anything that is not quality suffers from fighting at that level
Anything that is not quality suffers at any level in 3. Most casters ask for more stat points and quality guilds can typically still benefit from an additional 20 points to dex. The SL has nothing to do with it's reign.

>>154236661
>wahh why can't you let me win with my meme crutch shit wahh
typical pcuck

>>154237234
get good 30fps shitter

Why so many people cheat their stats on pc?

>>154237304
get good dead game meme cancer crutch hacking lagging tryhard scrub pcuck

also bloodborne NEVER EVER LOL

>>154237409
Because they can

>>154236750
>more pus of man ambushes
I wish a harder enemy gained a PoM form.
Can you imagine the Ghrus or the Pontiff knights bursting and growing an ashen arm that hits like a fucking truck?

>NG+
>Farron Keep gets more facefucker Ghrus
>Winged Knights replaced with Golden knights

>>154232783
The only gameplay thing I liked about DaS2 was left handed movesets and powerstancing

Everything else about DaS2 just makes me wish I were playing 1 or 3

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Which would be more fun/less soul crushing

A "pacifist" build where I only use healing or buff miracles and get phantoms to clear every stage and boss, while keeping dried finger activated at all times with as many phantoms summoned

or

only use fist weapons (no onislayer leap claws)

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>Master of Expression glitched and didn't unlock

>>154236978
Anyone?

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>>154236998
oh, so you're retarded. got it

>>154237813
the pacifist build sounds gay as fuck
basically "beat the game for me lmao"

do a semi-pacifist build on which you never directly kill non-boss enemies
you can get rapport and make the enemies kill each other

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>>154237569
LOL

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>>154237967
>actually reading the posts you reply to takes too much effort
>making this pic doesn't
top lmao

>>154236507

>>154238061
>1 month old pic he got off google
LMAO good job pcuck
never ever tho

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>>154237813
Using fist weapons. Getting phantoms to carry you might be a fun gimmick if you had passworded bodyguards and/or were doing a themed co-op run, I doubt doing it with randoms would be as funny.

+ rings were a mistake

>>154238152
>being this buttmad
typical sonybrony :^)
post and replies hidden ;^^^^)

ZIRAEL NO
MY HERO

>>154238417
hol up
is an FC going on

>>154238417
I'm so sorry I am terrible

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>>154238458
if you want, sure
pc fc? pontiff?
pass: dsg

>>154238250
Not him but thats September 8th, which is today.

Are you a britbong or something?

>>154238613
I'm actually gonna go to bed soon, it's 2 am where I live
I just thought I might've missed out

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tfw we will never get the super-waifu set

>>154238715
>bare feet
>no sleeves
spicy

>>154238670
You're falling for a sonybrony weak bait, son. I've already let it go.

>charge 1H r2 on WKGS less than an inch away from a host
>doesn't connect
>spear user stabs air
>I get damage

JUST

>>154238613

do it at high wall

>>154238613
COME ON GUYS GET OVER HERE QUICK

>>154238842
The hitbox on the WKGS 1HR2 is bad, like many attacks in the game. The hitbox extends well beyond its model to the left but not directly ahead so you have to actually correct your aim if you want to land it at max range.

>>154238715
would it be possible to Collector's Edition this in in such a way that other people would see it?

>>154238715
Cute boy(?)

>>154238670
>Are you a britbong or something?
Most of the planet uses DMY, anon.

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>>154238963
>admitting to ban evasion

>play at burgerland hours
>full of host summoning gauntlets for themselves
>every summon is wasted time

Heh, americans amirite

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>>154239051
Most of the planet is WRONG

>>154238670

this guy

>>154239220
Tell me more about your ban evasion escapades, underajojo.

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ALRIGHT FINE YOU PUSSIES
HIGH WALL PC FC
PASS DSG
BE THERE OR FUCK YOU

Am I the only one extremely disappointed with the DLC that's coming out? Like why would we go back to the Painted World?

>>154239132
>play during chinese hours
>Host of Embers had died, returning to your world
>play during euro hours
>everyone uses carthus swords and washing poles
>but nobody actually knows how to use them
>6 new friend requests by the end of the night
>play during russian hours
>!CURSED!

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>DaS 1
>get invaded in lagtown
>fat rolling
>full stone armor wearing
>drake sword swinging
>fucking
>casul
>BKGA him while ninja flipping naked, power within'd
how do you do your part as a shitter remover, /dsg/?

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>>154239350
I'M WAITING

>>154239495
jesus christ anon i dont know maybe we should wait to find out since the only info we have so far is a fucking teaser trailer

>>154173325
>>154173325
>>154173325
ETERNAL REMINDER

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>>154239350
Fuck me then. My internet is terrible

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>>154239615
HURRY UP

>>154239828
I would, anon, but I'm not at my PC for another 7 hours.

>>154239350
PS4 WHEN?

>>154240002
Never

>>154240002
>wanting to play with luci

DS1 is too grindy for different kinds of builds :(

>>154239495
This. Fuck the painted world. There are so many cool places we could go to.

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>>154239828
>tfw want to online but pc is shit and will probably kick me for low framerate

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>every time I come up with new fashion for my character I see someone else using something extremely close to it in /dsg/
kill me now

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LUTGARDIS KILLING IT WITH THESE PYROMANCIES