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Ki-87 Edition

>Official Site:
http://warthunder.com/

NOTE: You get given a premium aircraft for your first victory in game!
Need a faster download? Switch Language in Launcher.

>Wiki with Release Trees and General Tactics:
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php

>Fan created skins, missions, locations, fictions etc...
http://live.warthunder.com/ (Warning! Pure weeaboo and horsefucker autism abound)

>Ammunition Types
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Category:Ammunition

>All the Air RB/SB maneuvers you would want to know + Engine thingamabobs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200974026

>Every Airplane Instrument Panel translated
http://www.mediafire.com/view/q4nybrogygdchdb/ND's_aircraft_reference_guide.pdf

>Youtube Channel with Tutorials and Gameplay Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/galahadgawain/playlists

>Steam community:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warthundervg

>vg chatroom:
Type " /join vg " into chatbox.
If prompted for a password, use "memes".

>Joystick Comparisons:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/joystick-roundup_8.html

>DIY Headtracking
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-build-your-own-ir-head-tracker/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161710468074

>Chart displaying weapon effectiveness against ground units
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H1_cSnYKSKbU6Giql2bMDdFoXefeq6ENWuvjQbtquMs
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ship cbt fucking when oh my god
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>>154119237
It has objectively better turret armor, and I was commenting on how the fucking T-34 was broken and the 57mm is garbage, not on how the val was garbage ofc I know the val is garbage you dingo
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>>154119152
Only three of those are in the /wtg/ Facebook group
And the other is a pedo
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>>154119585
tl;dr we got tricked by Gaijin again and apparently the next patch is going to be another small update, we won't get the ship cbt until December (just like the tank cbt)
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>>154119659
>There is a Facebook group dedicated to staging shitposting attacks on a videogame thread about a slav game on a Chinese drawings website.
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>>154119737
tank cbt was the middle of summer
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>>154119956
tank cbt kept getting pushed off till the next patch, which is the reference he's trying to make
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to everyone making serious threads; please don't use the phrase "new bread" to announce it
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>>154119956
irc there was a secret club cbt in December for the people that did the tasks, the "general" cbt started in march.
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>>154120115
should all posts include trigger warnings for fragile snowflakes like yourself?
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>>154120257
haha yeah
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>>154120257
t. Facebook faggot
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>>154120115
This is srs bizness
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>>154120115
haha nice toast
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>>154120220
There were no tasks for the original cbt, are you thinking of the British CBT? Because then yes you'd be correct.
The only way to get into the first cbt tank was to buy the T-34 or Herman the German Sherman packs.
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>>154120851
>There were no tasks for the original cbt
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>>154121107
Those were for british cbt
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>>154121107
Wasn't that after it had been running for a while? Like the buy-in started in early summer and that tasks were a few months later?
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QUIT POSTING GARBAGE WEBMS
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>>154121258
no
>>154121371
buying access got you in earlier, yes
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>>154121465
That's what I was saying tho, you bought in first
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custom game when?
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>>154121258
no, those tasks were for the very first tank cbt test (January 2014)
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>>154121591
I never argued that, I'm another guy

>Sky Duels. I-15 versus Ki-10
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>>154121764
back when tank tracks were made of hand soap
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>In Enduring Confrontation mode the mechanics of the reward that a player receives have been changed. A player receives the first half of the reward normally (right after destroying an enemy unit, base or by performing any action that gives a reward to the player) and the second part after safe landing on the friendly airfield. This change should limit unfair bailing by pilots from their aircraft instead of returning to a friendly airstrip to rearm and repair their machines.
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>>154122206
>>154122170
>>154122152
>>154122105
>being this fucking obvious
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>>154121935
i have this only
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custom game?
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>actually kinda hyped for Ki-87
If it follows the jap trend of being a fucking sealclubber then it's a day 1. Not like they can uptier it any further as its a prop.
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when
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>Got an actual tank kill with the 40mm cannon on the Hurricane mk IV
Holy shit that was cool
Got a Hurricane IIB talisman too
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>>154123013
>composite armor

never
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>>154123830
what about the T-72?

the first versions aren't that well armored
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>>154124292
why no git gud with current hand held nation ?
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>>154123123
Holy shit the RP-6 rockets are fucking good at ground attack, I've only used RS-182/82 Bazooka and HVARs and they're all very mediocre. But the RP-6 is gooooooooood
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jap tanks when
italian tanks when
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>>154123013
when Gaijin removes RNG from penetration model, so about never ever
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>>154125081
>nations with nothing but Tier 1s
what for?
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does not having a leveled up crew affect gameplay significantly ?
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>>154125081
>>154125224
I'd like pasta tenks as a sub-tree in the German one like the pasta planes.
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>>154125224
the problem with WT is that tier 1 use is discouraged since you barely win any money with it
if that wasnt the case i would play tier 1 and 2 so much, tier 2 is the most fun for most nations

also this >>154125318
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xKYicir_i8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL2KO2maIkU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXYRQjzZZbk

Jesus Christ all those design flaws.
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The IS-3 is worthless

why would you ever use this hunk of shit over the T-54 1947?
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>>154125513
>wahhh wahhh please hold my hand more
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>>154125513
>why would you ever use this hunk of shit over the T-54 1947?
Long 88s struggle to pen it from the side. Think about that when I pen your diamond positioned T-54.
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>Ki-84 Ko at 4.7 is just as fast as the Ki-83 heavy fighter with two engines and a 6.0 BR
>the Ki-84 can turn and roll with anything while being able to dive almost just aswell
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>>154126292
Ki-83 has overwhelming armament
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>>154122862
They did with the Tu-4.
They won't do it with a fighter though.
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>>154125351
money are never issue, since low tier tanks are also cheap to repair.
RP gains on the other hand, are outright penalised, as if radical increase of RP requirments as yougo through tech tree wasn't enough.
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>>154127028
>They did with the Tu-4
>it didn't do jackshit and now it just snipes hunters at 8.0-9.0 matches
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>>154125513
these days the IS-3 and IS-4 are just a roadblock for the T-10M
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>>154127028
why is it tiered so high anyways?

I thought it was just a slav copy of the B-29
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why does the Drakon perform so much better post pen than the SS-11?

SS-11 has higher pen and explosive filler, all off which should increase the damage done buy the Munroe effect.
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>>154127231
>implying any hunter pilot with half a brain cell won't just dunk tu-4s left and right
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>>154127619
>british players
>ever learning to play
I lauf.
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>>154127423
they replaced the 50 cals in the turrets with fucking cannons and made the engines more powerful too giving it a higher payload
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>>154127423
3 words
twenty three millimeter
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no bias ))))))
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>>154127476
>explosive filler having anything to do with HEAT
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>>154127678
>>154127694
>10 NR-23

oh god
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>>154127476
>being bad
>not being good
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C U S T O M G A M E
host: DigDoug
pass: wtg
map: pooland
no fags allowed
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>>154128281
>no fags allowed
okay....
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>>154128281
reminds me of this
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>>154127423
it's about 4 times as durable as B-29, has higher payload and has .50s replaced with IL-28 turrets.
So rather than fixing it, Gaijin dropped them into jet battles, because no one cares about jets
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>>154128576
>4 times as durable as B-29
the tu-4 is far squishier than the b-29 and literally capsizes upon damage to its engines, which doesn't even happen to the latter
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>>154127476
it's not explosive filler, but warhead.
And yes, Dragon should be less damaging as all Soviet ATGMs use deep penetration cone, which increases penetration, but at price of less destructive post-pen effect.
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>drive behind a t-62 with my RaJaPa
>fire off one ATGM
>cook off his ammo
>drive away
>get shot in my engine block and set afire by the same guy who apparently didn't die
>burn to death
out fucking skilled
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>order new computer parts from newegg
>they ship through fedex
>supposed to arrive today
>excited to finally upgrade from toaster so i'm not an ultraslav in warthunder anymore
>fedex, after sitting on my package only 30 minutes from my house since 7AM, finally update the tracking and claim the barcode was unreadable NINE HOURS LATER and delay my shipment

THESE FUCKING PEOPLE ARE MORE INCOMPETENT THAN TFUCKING GAIJIN JESUS FUCKING CHRIST NEVER AGAIN. I PAID EXTRA FOR THIS SHIT AND THEY MANAGED TO FUCK IT UP.
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>playing AB tanks with a friend
>ask me if i want to play air battles
>"oh well i have my joystick setup for SB and all, id rather keep playing tanks"
>he insists on playing air battles even if its SB
>cant take off
>"whats this wierd thing on my screen"
>"why do i have to keep moving the mouse to keep the plane straight"
>quits the game
>a day later tells me he uninstalled
>never played WT with me again
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How to play with you guys?
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>>154129908
I don't play much anymore, sorry
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>>154125513
>Weakest point on turret is angled so it's even weaker because you're a fucking retard and went down hill
>Crying about being penned by a 1 oh fucking five
Kys my man
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how is the Battle Rating calculated/decided ??
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>>154130571
>>154130612
>>154130639

fuck off back to your own general faggot.
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>>154128281
ok not many people are in here so fags are now allowed
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>playing WT for months
>not buying a joystick for it
whats your excuse
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>>154129908
You add me on steam and become my personal fuccboi
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>>154131402
I mostly play GF.
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>>154131402
A joystick is literally a handicap in AB & RB. It's only required to play EC.
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>>154131569
true
its a shame but it will always be that way
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>>154125419
wew, I just saw the ones about the T-34-85
it's even worse
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>>154131530
Maybe if I had a Joystick myself I'd play Air forces more, but Tonks are just too much fun. Even with the occasional bs that happens.

Looking forward to projectiles having actual dimensions and not just being a single ray cast point.
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>>154133460
i used to use the throttle adjustment in my joystick while playing Tanks CBT. its kinda cool adjusting the acceleration of a tank for more stable shots while in movement.
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>>154133460
>single ray cast point
what did he mean by this
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>>154131402
>playing WT with a joystick

Just get yourself IL2:BoS and don't subject yourself to gayjob shenanigans
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>>154133460
It's really just not worth it. I regret ever wasting money on a joystick.
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>>154135184
translation:
>i'm trash at using it
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TRAX
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When?
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>>154125419
>casing collector
>bore evacuator
>manual traverse assist
>neutral steer
>synchronized gearbox
>that speed-firepower-armor combination
>that futuristic design
Panther is my tankfu. She deserved epicyclic gears.
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>>154135487
translation: You never used a joystick before in WT.

Anyone that has knows you are at a disadvantage in RB compared to keyboard + mouse users.
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>>154135795
That's why you use it in EC you retard, saying it was a waste of money means you're trash with it. Simple as that.
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>>154135874
It pretty much is unless you play only EC.

I don't get why this is so hard for you to understand. There is no point to using it in RB/AB and in tanks doesn't even make sense.

It's a fucking waste of money unless you want to be a professional autist and play EC all day long and at that point you may as well play a proper flight sim like DCS
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>>154136034
>you need to play EC 24/7 to warrant spending 20 bucks on a joystick
you're fucking retarded
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>ki-87 will be premium only
just....
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>>154136296
>Number built: 1
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>>154136296
It's good for it to be premium. Unused prototypes belong in the premium line.
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>>154136241
>buying a shitty $20 joystick

poorfag
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>mfw played since 1.34 and havent unlocked a single jet
>mfw the only nation where im somewhat close is japan because empty tree
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>>154136481
it gets the job done, and you're the poorfag if 20 bucks on a peripheral is a waste of money for you
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>>154136359
>>154136464
>Su-6
>3 built
>in Slav non-premium tree
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>>154136610
>two wrongs make a right
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>>154136481
i got my thrustmaster for 26€ and its great
in driving wheels i would spend at least 50 bucks but for a joystick 30 bucks is usually enough for decent quality
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>>154136576
>$20 joystick

poorfag
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>>154136924
>slavs are allowed to constantly be allowed "wrongs" but if you even consider it for anything else it's not allowed
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>>154136610
>I-185 M-82
>1 built
>in Slav non-premium tree

>I-185 M-72 (series production)
>1 built
>in Slav non-premium tree

>T-44-100
>2 built
>in Slav non-premium tree

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>154131474
What's your ID?
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>>154137225
id/korera
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>jap tree is still anorexic
>the one plane war thunder adds is a premium )))
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>>154135604
I'd hate to be the crew in that thing.
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>>154137467
its prototype
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>>154137467
>British t4 premium planes was just two Spitfires (1 bundle, 1 eagle)
>the one plane war thunder added was a bundle )))
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Oh no! Gaijin devs accidentally screwed up and deleted all nations' aircraft trees!

You must pick 3 fighters and 2 bombers for each nation! What aircraft do you choose?
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>Panther II
>never made
>in Nazi non-premium tree

>King Tiger
>never made
>in Nazi non-premium tree

>Maus
>1 made
>in Nazi non-premium tree
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>>154137967
TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT
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>>154137967
>King Tiger
>never made
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>>154137915
Easy

Tu-4
IL-28

Mig-15
Mig-17
Yak-30
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>>154137967
>Tiger II
>never made
are you retarded King Tiger is actually wrong translated since it would be Bengal Tiger
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>>154137967
>>King Tiger
>>never made

Here's your (You).
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>>154138084
>not mig-15bis
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>>154137915
>Japan
Ki-43, A6M2, Ki-84. For bombers Ki-21 and B6N (how the fuck are those 2 not on the jap tree already
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>>154138129
>>154138062
>>154138114
The KT 105 we have is not a real tank
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>>154138248
>A6M2
>not A6M5
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>>154138250
>damage control

you never said 105 Tiger II
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>>154138250
So why didn't you say the Tiger II 105 you spastic?
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>germans get literal fantasy tanks
>they're also whine the most
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>>154137915
>America
P40, P47, F6F
B17, TBF
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>>154138582
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>>154138457
>>154138476
I figured you autists would realize that is the one i'm talking about, but I guess you are guys too autistic to realize this.
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Did you know...
there was more aircraft produced for WW2 than for all other wars combined ?
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>>154138906
where is proof
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>>154138582
>>154138696
In fairness, the naziboos have got more fantasy tanks and planes than any other single tree and they are the most vocal group when it comes to complaining in most places.

Reminder that the German tree has:

>tanks that were never built
>jets that were never built
>jet engines that were never built
>flight model and engine data that rely on things that never existed
>a Sabre
>a MiG-15

All they need is a T-54 now. :^)
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>>154139018
name one jet never made
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>>154139264
>posted from my ho 229 v3 with engines and guns it never had irl
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>>154139264
The Ho 229 V3 was never built (ie, finished).

It never had engines or guns.

AND the engines it has in-game are ones that were never meant to go in the fucking thing in the first place.
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>>154139389
>>154139319
Yes it was, the wings were removed.
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>>154139543
>zero guns
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>>154139543
>no guns
>different engines than the fantasy ones in war thunder
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>>154139608
>>154139651
>POSTED FROM MY COLD WAR MIG-17 FIGHTING WWII JETS
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>>154139728
Nice flares, naziboo.
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>>154139728
>posted from my cold war Hunter that fought in Korea
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>>154139728
>gets btfo
>immediately whines about "russian bias"
yep that's naziboos alright
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>>154139728
which ww2 jet does the mig-17 fight
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>>154139913
Ki-200 and Me 163 are WWII, but I guess they're not technically jets.
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Replays server synced when?
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>>154143101
Shadowplay nigga
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>>154119301
I'm probably late as fuck but WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THE SIMULATOR TUTORIAL!!!???

its broken as fuck and there are posts online about it back in 2012!!
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>>154143417
>using a toutorial
Nigga just look at the keybinds for shit in the controls option and go.
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>>154143823
you have to do the tutorial to play simulator
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noice
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>>154137467
>Japanese heavy fighter/bomber hasn't been updated in over a year
>Here's a new plane guys!
>It's a fighter!
>It's a PREMIUM FIGHTER!
>See guys we're still working on planes guys!
>Seriously! We're also adding ANOTHER RUSSIAN PROTOTYPE!
>Not one of the dozens of American naval planes that could be added
>Not one of the dozens of British and German planes that could be added
>A RUSSIAN FUCKING PROTOTYPE!!!!
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WHERE ARE ALL THE ITALIAN DEVBLOGS!?!
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>>154146594
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>>154145739
*Prototype Ground Attacker
The most useless class in Air Battles.
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>>154146594
tfw no G.56
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anyone wanna play air RB and/or tank RB RU,EU,US __Reichtangle__ i dont really care what BR but plsno 6.7 + stuff
; - ; im a scrub and need handholding
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>>154149069
reported for racist name
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>>154146594
>>154148474

>This scares the Slavs in their Yak3Ps
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>>154149125
how is that racist? name was approved by a GM anyways because apparently "hyperlord" is a military rank and those are not allowed in names so i had to change and a GM had to approve the changed name
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Discuss gaem pls.
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>>154124787
last game just killed a fucking maus with the 2.0 typhoon using those rockets
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>>154151864
Germany has the best Tier IV vehicles in the entire game, this is a fact.
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>>154152019
I like that you say that, I'm close to getting more of those tier vehicles unlocked.

I'm pretty upset at the new 'crew replacement' module coming out, because now I re spade my entire german line. It tingles my completion complex.
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>>154128281
>DigDoug
damn ur still here?
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>>154152019
>KTs are good
>fighting IS-3s and T-54s all day is fun
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>>154138250
best part, there was not even blueprints, or any design data. It's literally concept drawing.
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>>154154434
you have to admit, the german winder weapons were really coom
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Maus is overtiered
Fight me slavshits
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>>154155590
As a slavshit I'd be interested to try out the Maus at 7.3.
The T-54 at 7.3 is pretty much invulnerable when downtiered while being fast as all hell. The only problem would arise on big maps like Kursk where non-postwar ammo of the 122 would struggle to pen the Maus even from the side.
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>>154154224
>IS-3

see: >>154125513
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>>154155590
>overtiered/downtiered
these arguments are retarded, gaijin balances the game on what is apt and not historical accuracy
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>>154156039
>gaijin balances the game on what is apt
How new were you again?
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>>154156039
Clearly they don't if the IT-1 is only 8.3
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>>154156039
>gaijin balances the game
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>>154155942
Without that lucky downhill, a long 88 has problems penning a IS3 even from the side. Also the only way for a long 88 to pen frontally the IS3 would need to be angled or hope for a lucky shot in the turret ring. Implying stupid shit like "IS3 is worse than KT" just tells loads on how handholded russian you are.
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>>154156627
>>154156701
>>154156725
>triggered nazi weebtards
fuck off back to wot
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>>154157029
Thank you for the hourly meme post.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8bMDZrfOwo

YES!
>>
Aviation nerds.

Would it have been a cunt destroyer had it actually saw service?
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>>154157545
Considering the japanese war situation? No.
The japanese had good planes like the J2M, N1K2 and Ki-84 but the industry wasn't up to the challenge to mass produce complex engines. The time when the bases and factories wouldn't have been getting literally nuked, it would've been grounded by lack of fuel and technical failures.
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>>154157029
>wot
play steel beasts. then you can talk shit
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>>154157428
>paying $40 + $30 for a Dayz mod
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>>154157724
I meant regardless of its circumstances.

Is it a good plane to get hyped about and be invariably disappointed like the Ta-152 and Do-335??
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>>154157957
>Is it a good plane to get hyped about and be invariably disappointed like the Ta-152 and Do-335??
Even if I'd written multiple books on the plane I wouldn't try to predict anything Gaijin is adding. No matter how well it performed/would've performed, Gaijin will make the final call will it club or not.
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>>154158107
That's true.

Well it looks good at least.

And I've spaded all of the single engined army fighters, so it'll give that slot some new use.
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>>154157428
this is severe autism
>>
>>154158376
why?
>>
>T-44-100 snipes me from over 3 km away
>Through 2 buildings
>through 3 hedgerows
>and a fence
>Russian
>Has unlocked camos
>Bushes

ULQ hacking needs to be fucking curbed and now.
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>>154158623
BE GRATEFUL FOR FREE GAME TOVARISCH)))))))))))))))))))

(sage to gas te.ebshits)
>>
Literally started playing this two days ago. Having fun blowing up tanks and utterly failing in planes. Hit level 5 for the profile, still on rank I stuff.

Is there a good beginner's guide of how to progress? Or is it just kind of invest into whatever the fuck I want?
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>>154159019
leave
leave while you can, this game will suck the soul out of you and turn you into a cynical cunt.
>>
RUSSIAN MADE
BUILT TO LAST
VERY STRONK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkeR9IWkJKE
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>>154159019
Don't invest your time into this game.
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>>154159019
>Is there a good beginner's guide of how to progress
buy lions
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>>154158326
My personal opinion is that it will:
>be able to dive as well as the Ki-84
>can't turn with spits
>climbs worse than the J7W and N1K2
The typical "high altitude fighter" fare. HAF is basically a meme in WT, and it translates to "turns bad, climbs bad". Also good high altitude performance means jackshit when there's a Spitfire mk 24 above you, and I can assure you, there is.
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>>154159019
This game is worse than MWO. Get out now, and find literally anything else.
>>
>>154159019
Stay away from US Vehicles, TI and TII are balanced but after TIII you're target practice for German, Slav, Brit and Jap vehicles.
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>>154159241
hellenic airforce is always shit
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>>154159692
>people believe this
>unironically being bad

;^)
>>
>>154159241
Might be able to shit all over the Americans depending on its BR.
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>>154159692
What about the Bulldog, T92, M551?
>>
>>154159019
yes, you can get whatever you want but the general recommendation is that you form a strong lineup of vehicles to take into battle.

You want to have at least a vehicle of every type and of similar BR's in your lineup
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>>154159019
Pick german. Get Tiger at Rank 3. Kill rest of fools.
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>>154159818
>>154159692
>>154159878
seriously the entire US light tank line from the locust to the sheridan is pure fun and nazi tears. The shermans are a different story now...
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>>154160021
>get past rank 4
>get killed by everyone
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>>154160124
>Leopard 1
>Maus (aka Nazibunker 1)
>Jadtiger (aka Nazibunker 2)
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>>154159878
legitimately good tank
memey as fuck when you unlock HEAT
OHK machine
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what did they mean by this
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>>154160494
>that ulq
>that resolution
>those fps

wew
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>>154160264
Hi maus id like you to meet my friends discarding sabot, and his cousing heatfs
jagdtiger get flanked
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>>154160494
People like you should be put on a seperate server
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>>154159126
But I'm having fun???

>>154159135
Is this game that pay2win?

Some other beginner questions:

Is research shared between nations?
How do I actually get crew experience?
Why do the Japs have no tanks?
>>
>>154161436 here

Also, what should I spend crew XP on first?
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>>154157428
that shit is so staged
>>
>Big WT fan
>insulted and upset as fuck over their PT boats announcement bullshit
>drop the game outright
>haven't played since the original announcement
>drinking after work
>feel like playing some planes
>log in
>14000 players
>lowest number I ever saw in two, maybe three years of playing

Glad I'm not the only one
>>
>>154161436
>is this game that pay2win?

depends on who you ask, I personally think this game is more "pay2skipthegrind"

>Is research shared between nations?

No, each nation/tech tree is it's own thing

>How do I actually get crew experience?

Just play the game, a fraction of the xp you get will be converted to crew points.

Why do the Japs have no tanks?

not in the game yet
>>
>>154161560
for tanks:

Reload
Leadership
Repair
Vitality
Agility
and then everything else

for planes:

G-tolerance
Stamina
Vitality
and then everything else
>>
>>154125513
heavy pancake is hella fun against tigers you're just mad you're bad enough to be low tiered against one and die like a pleb instead of farming
>>
>>154157428
>People still watch Frankie1080p
>>
Any of you madmen respaded your tanks?
>>
>>154159019

>2000+ logged and another 1-2k hours not logged

Run while you can. Just do it. Or wait until the first time you get frustrated and uninstall. Don't come back.

The zone doesn't let you leave.
>>
>>154162737

Did most, but burnt out around Era IV.

I can't stand the ISU-122s.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0MpZ86fj_g

P-61 is boss!
>>
>>154159019
I'm basically in the same situation as you, luckily some other fella here was kind enough to show me the basics.

Hit me up on steam if you wanna play a game or two, im id/qqpq.

pls
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>>154162993

Progress.

IV is such a slog to even get one last module for even when you have everything else. Trying to get the R2Y2 V3 so I can call Jap Air done, which means no spading because it'd be wasted. US Air got done a month or so ago.
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MORE
SPAGHETTI
PLANES
WHEN
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>>154164870
Takeshi?
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>>154165684

Nah, don't namedrop here. People who know me would recognize that autism instantly though.
>>
>>154165465
sorry not priority (((
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>>154165465

After French tanks.
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>>154164870
so how many shekels did you spend on this game?
>>
>>154166464

Many. But usually only when friends do, or I blow part of a tax return on it.

I've made worse purchases before. Like Brink, and Fallout 4.
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I'm somewhat excited.

That super turbocharger looks fucking wicked.

All these cool shit the Germans and the Japanese could have had if they only they didn't keep getting BTFO so fast.
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>>154166831
If it's at 6.x it'll just get cucked by r2d2s all day, and I can't imagine it being lower.
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>levels 2, 4, 6, 8 are no gain
>they still even bother to list level 2 to rub it in

is this the biggest scam along with the guaranteed uptiering
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>>154167057
>scam
giving money to gaijin is a scam
>>
>load up bomber
>fly low and bomb tanks
>j out when fighters get close
>get thrice the RP of people who actually played the match
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>>154160264
Maus with 207mm turret armor at tier 5 is bunker
>>
>had 500 something red war bonds
>was waiting to save them up
>log in today
>they apparently expired
>they're all fucking gone
>>
>>154169887
)))
>>
Holy crap they made sea sabres called the FJ-2 Fury and some of them are pre missiles and I want them so bad
>>
>>154169887
expired like ~5 hours ago
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>>154170086
>sea sabres
The FJ Fury came before the sabre.
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>>154161724
They've stated the pt boats are just for low tier testing, nothing it set in stone.
I don't see why everyone is getting worked up over it.
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>>154171987
+2 GE
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Got 10 kills with AA.
What did you do today?
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>>154175008
took shit, named it yaklivesmatter, flushed it down the toilet
>>
Does everyone that play this game just suck cock for a living? I win about 8% of my games because my team all die within the first 60 seconds. I have no problem staying alive most of the match but every fucking faggot on my team is usually just an incompetent cunt.

Hard to stay motivated to play this game when every match just becomes a clusterfuck right off the bat.
>>
>>154175626
stay away from RU server
usually 3-4 teamkills at the start of match (almost guaranteed) and no teamwork at all
EU is no teamwork but also no stupid bullshit
and US is usually the best with actually active chat and people talking
>>
>>154175729
forgot to add that those things go for the enemy team too so if you have a lineup that can carry go for slav server and club retards
>>
Acrobatics with mouse aim is like trying to get a robot to dance
>>
What do you do with tank that has gun elevation of 85 degrees ?
>>
>>154178231
Shoot planes.
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>>154178337
dont think it gets proximity fuse like zsu37 has
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>>154178467
So don't miss.
>>
What BR?
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>>154178467
ZSU has a prox. fuse? i thought thats just plain old HE (with self destruct time)
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>>154178562
4.3
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>>154178562
Above the IL-2-37, but not so high the 37mm can't pen tanks.
>>
>>154178638
>>154178672
Seems pretty good. Might light it take the place of my Pe-2.
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>>154178562
2.3 )))
>>
>take out PBJ-1J for comfy ground pounding
>get the alternate history map against slavs where they have three airfields
>slowly make my way along the eastern shore towards the shittons of pillboxes AAA and artillery
>finally get there
>realize I'm the last guy left on my team
>get a pillbox or two
>AAA one shots both my engines oil
>return to base
>oil overheats halfway there
>see i-185 coming towards me
>turn on aerobatics smoke and head towards him
>nigga forces a head on
>pilot snipe him and blow his plane apart from a kilometer away
>see a Yak approaching me fast
>head on him again
>set his plane on fire before he gets a single shot off
>now have more kills than any other person on the team
>another Yak dives in me
>tailsits me
>manage to set him on fire then pilot snipe him
>engines now dead from oil overheating
>manage to soft land in a valley before j-ing out
>20k SLs
that was actually pretty fun
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I haven't got a talisman or 75% discount in a year and this is what i get.
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>>154183012
get fucked slav(e)boo
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>>154184220
2-op
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>>154184220
better than getting 1 for usa reserve tank and 1 for 1.3 another burger tank
>>
>Su-6
>3 prototypes made
>never saw combat
>somehow in normal slav tree

gee, can't wait to see the other prototypes slavs will get to fill their already huge tree.
>>
I consistently do quite well in muh german steel on large, open maps with lots of hills and such- like Kursk and shit. I tend to find somewhere with overwatch of open ground I expect the enemy to move through (bonus points if it'll give me long-range flank shots) while also offering a position where I can completely conceal my tank behind terrain and just scout shit out with my binoculars until I see something to shoot

what the fuck are you supposed to do on smaller, tighter maps? Everything I know about tank warfare lends itself to the way I play- positioning is king, and a good battle position is worth a hundred tons of armor. An attack, or anything more mobile than fighting from a few pre-selected battle positions, requires coordination between multiple tanks and at least one of them is probably going to get shot down before anyone has a chance to react to fire. I have no clue how people do well attacking in this fucking game considering the closest thing to teamwork you can get is avoiding teamkilling.
>>
>>154185953
the only regular tree not filled with prototypes is the american plane tree, why start complaining now
>>
>>154186313
actually, the bong one is ok too.
>>
>american """""""glass cannons""""""" are fine
>T92 is the same BR as the ASU-85
>The ASU-85's HEAT-FS has 100mm more pen
>>
>>154186313
I can't think of any prototypes in the British air tree.
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>>154186470
Sea Meteor
Vickers Tempest
There are probably others.
>>
>>154186470
said bongs are ok too, but there are some examples.
>>154186519
the hunter we have did not exist, at least not with its guns.
>>
>>154175626
>Does everyone that play this game just suck cock for a living?

I do desu
>>
>>154186519
Oh I didn't realise the Tempest Vickers was a one-off.

What the fuck even is the Sea Meteor? I can't find anything about it, the RN apparently never used the F.3.
>>
>>154178562
Su-2 also has very good armament yet is pretty low tier.
>>
>>154175626
Maybe you should kill your enemies before they kill your allies?

>>154186831
Bongs needed more jets, but gaijin can't be assed to make new models.
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>>154166831
P R E M I U M S H I T S
i was kinda excited until i read that it was a premium
fuck that, seriously
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what plane is fun to use?
>>
>>154187183
BF 109 E5 and 7
>>
>>154187183
109 G-2, 109 K-4 and Tempest II are my favourites.
>>
>>154187183
ki-43
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>>154187183
Wyvern and Yak3p
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>>154187183
The Romanian Duck.
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Is this thing made to penetrate battleships or something?
>>
>>154188051
yes
>>
>>154188051
>North Carolina class has 180 mm total deck armor
>South Dakota class has ~150 mm deck armor
>>
>>154187507
thanks, gonna spade the cannon ki-43
>>
>>154188664
the pen value is for the HE filler you dipshit its pretty obvious that a 770 kg steelchunk will pen more than 80mm
>>
>>154188664
It shows the penetration of fragments from explosions, i just guessed it's supposed to break through the deck and then detonate inside, considering that 800 kilo bomb only has 30kg of explosives.
>>
>>154188801
actually, fuck spading the Ki-43. It would take hours, during which I could do something more fun.

Don't know why I tried.
>>
>>154120776
american tanks used to be good?
>>
If they made the su-6 premium people would just wine and complain that they released another premium.
>>
>>154189649
The 105 sherman was hilariously overpowered on release.
>>
>>154189820
not as OP as Herman :^)

god i miss the good old time when herman had almost 100mm front + slope for some reason iirc + 3second reload and 3.3 BR
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>>154189649
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>
>>154189820
And now it's useless ;-;
Why did they have to kill it?
>>
>>154190157
they should give it better reload nad a bit more pen and it would be fine again imo
>>
https://warthunder.com/en/news/4227-development-fv-438-swingfire-surprise-package-en/


ANOTHER TEEB ATGM

THE SSWINGSHIT
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>>154190303
They should also fix the traverse rate.
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>>154190329
>only 14 rockets
>It can be penetrated by any machine-gun fire from certain distances.

Lol...
>>
>>154190343
true
>>
>>154190329
>launches at 45 degree angle

Oh boy another atgm that can sit behind cover or hills and kill people without fear of ever being shot. It has two missles loaded at once to boot.
>>
Daily reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHTWII0rssI
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>>154190685
and both are brits

looks like your slavbias fortress isnt that secure anymore
>>
>>154190685
good luck using that in CQB
>>
Post ULQ hack for reference pls
>>
>>154190832
"""Realistic physics"""
>>
>>154190867
It-1 can fire turret down as well.

The IT-1 is still going to be king of ATGM.

- Can fire turret down
- Can shotgun people at close quarters
- Has armor that is actually good
- fast
- fast reload
- loads of ammo
- mouse guided

Swingfire has no armor, wont be able to do close quarters, likely a load reload because dual missile pods, and has low ammo reserves.
>>
>>154191131
Also swingfire missiles will likely be able to cook off just from mg hits.
>>
>>154191131
>good armor
debatable but its at least safe from most ACs which is a huge plus
>can shotgun
i dont have high hopes but maybe we get the min arming distance someday (300m iirc)
but i didnt mean ATGMs anyways i can kill IT1s pretty ez with my Cent Mk 10 and/or Strv but T10M and IS 4M still give so many bs RNG bounces that it makes me want to torch down the gaijin studio or whereever the slavs get drunk and "work" on WT
>>154191240
didnt that get fixed on Strv and RakJaPa ?
>>
>>154190329
Does this have a turret or is it like a casemate? Based off their video it doesnt seem to be a turret which is a boner killer considering how big it's.
>>
>>154191515
Its not a turret but in real life you could turn the missile 90 degrees after launcher

>relatively slow missile that would allow directional changes of 45 degrees

Which Gaijin seems to have nerfed
>>
>>154191515
casemate
>>
Jagdchieftain when?
>>
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ohhh boy
>>
Those missiles go 185m/s

Holy shit good luck hitting anyone competent
>>
>>154192146
how fast are the Robots ? 220 ms? because those already feel sloooow af
>>
This is pretty bullshit that teeb now gets two atgm. Swingfire can kill composite armor tanks ffs.
>>
>>154192529
>Swingfire can kill composite armor tanks ffs.
And we dont have any composite armor tanks
so fucking what
>>
>>154192529
so what?
SS.11 has more pen than swingfire
>>
>>154192113
By the Queen.
>>
>>154192529
It could kill battleships, it wouldn't matter since all other ATGMs pen is overkill already.
>>
>more cold war tanks

Thanks gaijin
>>
>>154192146
How does it stay in flight
>>
>>154192847
>killing pt boats with HE missiles

Pls make this happen
>>
>>154192859
Want them to add more panzer 3 and 4s?
>>
>>154193017
Or 13 more 109 variants?
>>
>>154193017
>>154193295
yes pls :3
>>
>>154193017
How about american spg like the priest?
>>
>>154192529
>1 premium centurion with 3 MCLOS ATGMs that nobody ever fucking uses
>"they shouldn't get any other ATGM vehicles hurr durr"
>>
>>154193439
Priest would be useless against tanks.

We want the scorpion.
>>
>>154193439
fuck off back to WoT you arty fuck
>>
>>154193439
WT maps are too small for any SPG to work. WoT spg are highly unrealistic.
>>
>>154188051
Japanese had no proper anti-ship bombs, so they moddified AP shells used by battleships.
>>
>>154193520
>>154193616
>a whopping 35 degrees of elevation
>OMFG WOT WOT WOT
Maybe they could just return HE to its previous form, hmmm?
It would be fun-mode like the Stuh, BTFOing engine decks and floor plates.
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>>154194027
>>>/wotg/
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>>154193510
and Humber Hornet is still not in game
>hey kids, did you know about 27 kg HESH warheads?
>>
>>154194027
I-i never mentioned WOT
>>
>>154194264
>Stuh is wt
>su122 is wt
>m4-105 is wt
>woah, woah, this HE slinging casement vehicle is taboo
>>
>>154194791
>lists 3 vehicles designed for direct fire support
>thinks a vehicle designed as indirect fire support is the same thing
McFuckingâ„¢ kill yourself
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>>154194791
Those aren't artillery like the priest.
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>>154194841
And in WT the HEAT for the stubby 75mm is only for defensive purposes, as is historical. The priest did get used for direct fire in city fighting.
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>>154194791
>there is no difference between infantry-supporting assault gun vehicles and dedicated self-propelled artillery like the M7 Priest

wow rly makes u think
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>>154195729
>>154195116
M41s and M43s were also used as direct support weapons which, for weapons firing 45kg and 100kg shells, I find bit ridiculus.
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>>154195116
>get used
IS NOT FUCKING DESIGNED
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>>154196227
Yeah, things like that without a crew compartment obviously fall out of the acceptible range, but a low tier GE slinger doesn't seem that far fetched.

Aren't we gettingan open topped long 88?
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>>154196227
sort of expected from nation that carpet-bombs tanks
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>adding more meme shit instead of fixing the game
>ground forces is still the definition of anti-fun
>"""""ships"""""
>rocket shit
>ulq


It seems that Gaijin doesn't give a fuck anymore. And this thread is worse than any other general, even /gsg/. It might be time to quit
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I WANT ATGMs TO FUCKING LEAVE
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The time has come.

This will probably be the first ATGM vehicle I'll go for.
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>>154198235
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I now have an excuse to buy a talismen for my chieftain
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>>154198235
I literally only log in once a day just to keep the daily reward going since it's almost 300 days now. I don't even care about what I get, it's just something to do.
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Whats a good cheap ssd
I want to be able to relaunch fast after I alf+f4 after I get put againts japs
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>>154198804
Kingdian SSD's
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>haven't played Warthunder in 6 months
>play today
>Ta152 H get airstarts

what
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>>154198804
Sandnigger extreme pro
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>>154199270
interceptors get air starts
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>>154190329

Only good in AW due to cloaking device.
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>>154199363
huh, interesting

they also seem to have changed its flightmodel handles much better
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>it's another patch with no patch notes episode
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What am I in for?
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>>154199896
the WASD steered ATGMs are actually quite fun i use them on the Strv tho si i cant promise they are still fun when you have nothing to fall back to
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>>154199270
Air starts are fucking retarded. My P-47 no longer seal clubs. It nukes them.
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>>154200096
gaijin at its finest ))))
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anyone else having this? game starts fine and i have no problems but this still bugs me
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>>154200695
the authorities caught you using nazi vehicles
picking you up within 24 hours
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>>154198447
Okay gumby
"waaa"
>>
>>154198235
What would you say they fix with ground forces
>>
>>154201574
Not him but maybe make it less grind-tastic.
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>>154200695
client stability has been improved )))))))
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>>154186414

>ASU is twice as big
>ASU isn't faster
>ASU has smaller caliber gun
>ASU has no turret
>ASU can't engage air targets for whatever that's worth
>ASU doesn't have nearly as much gun depression.

You're right, ASU-85 should go to 6.3 :^)
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>>154201805
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>>154200096
Gaijin misses out chance to make battles a little bit more historical. They could go all the way, and allow planes spawn at their operational altitude, effectively eliminating climbrace.
Allowed spawn altitudes would depend on type of craft, escort fighters and high-alt interceptors would have highest spawnpoint at around 7000 m, same as strategic bombers they were meant to protect or destroy.
This would provide some level of protection for attackers/medium bombers, as they would be out of fighter's sight for innitial part of battle. That is unless someone spawns low altitude fighter, or spawns at lower alt than max allowed, by choice, preciselly to fuck attackers up.
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>>154200149
Then again, testing it with the Ta-152, doesn't matter if that plane gets an air start. It still sucks dick and is outperformed by Spitfires.
>>
>Daughter rocking out in the other room to Sabaton
>Can hear her drumming to the beat on her table
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>>154202158
OKAY VEGETA
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>>154202158
is new album good?
>>
>>154202039
But then you need to introduce artificial ceilings. Spawn a B17 or P51 at 7km and you can bet he's gonna climb to 10km while the enemy team is still trying to get to 4km.
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>>154202039
>bombers are now useless
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>>154202076
not if they don't hit you
>2 spitfire literally wasted their whole ammunition on me without turning anything of my plane yellow
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>>154202217
:^)
>>154202256
I don't know, I only have the discography up to 2014
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>>154202276
Is yours spaded? At 8km alt I'm turning like a brick and barely keeping up with spits because I'm stock.
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>>154202261

The game needs something, because I saw a B-17 trying to break 11,000m the other day.

Crew needs to automatically start passing out if you somehow break the aircraft's service ceiling.
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>>154202386
nope, my Ta is lacking all the final tier upgrades, but can outrun the Spits.
obviously I don't know if they were spaded or not, so that might've been a factor
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>>154201457
>implying I am gumby

i wish desu
>>
>shoot it-1 and """"""destroy"""""" it's cannon breach
>still fires a missile 2 seconds later.
epic
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>>154202826
IT-1 doesn't have a cannon silly.

Plus cannon breaches dont necessarily mean its broken, just a chance the next shot will blow up on you and disable it.
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>have decent aim in fighters
>can't hit shit in bomber turrets
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>>154202263
>bombers without friendly fighters nearby are now easy picking
fixed for you
and nothing of value was lost t b h
>>154202261
>Spawn a B17 or P51 at 7km and you can bet he's gonna climb to 10km while the enemy team is still trying to get to 4km.
they would all spawn at 7km, as long as they actually are made for high alt combat. 7km is just example though, spawn ceiling would be best decided by optimal altitude of a plane. But yeah, game should put more serious constraints on how high you can climb without serious issues, perfomance or otherwise.
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>>154203419
I know that feel. Someday ill be a helmet.
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>>154203493
>They would all

Oh, you made it sound like escort fighters spawn at alt while interceptors spawn on the airfield.
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>>154202263
>Bombers
>Useless

You mean German bombers are useless. Potentially some Russian bombers. American bombers (b17, B25, b29) and some British bombers will be perfectly fine. Those faggots shrug off all weapons right now.

It's like we're back to 3 years ago when bombers were outrageously powerful.
>>
does anyone know when they changed the Ta152s flight model? with the no wobble it actually flies decent desu
>>
When will Germans get a proper long range strategic bomber? I want the Me 264.
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>>154203150
I know it's not a cannon breach but it says I destroyed it, he shouldn't be able to fire back 2 seconds later.
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>>154204356
Only American and Russian Team are allowed to have long range strategic bombers with high payloads.
>>
>Yak-9T can just spray the 37 at you in headons and is almost guaranteed a kill with it's laser accuracy at full auto
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>>154204356
>Number built: 3

Why not ask for Germany's ACTUAL heavy bomber, the He 177?
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>>154203901
>forgot about japans bomber
>go from 2 800kg bombs to 1 800 kg bomb for 2 tiers
its only saving grace is the g8n1 but even that cant compete with other bombers at that br with its payload
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>>154201574
Less arcade, more realistic. Better maps, less forgiving DMs, less RNG, less grind.
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>>154205117
BUTS ITS PERFECTLY FINE FOR RHE 3 BUILT PROTOTYPE SU-6 TO BE ADDED TO THE SLAV TREE.

FUCK OFF
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>patch is named desert hunters
>nothing released so far relates to the desert
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>>154205224
I didn't forget about Japan's bombers. I just don't consider them anywhere near the same capability/survivability as the B series bombers, the Yers or Tu bombers. Potentially the wellington also, so I should have said one British bomber.
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>>154205443
Yes, the game already has bullshit vehicles in it so clearly what we need to do is add more.
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>>154205663
Until you remove the slav bullshit no one cares.
>>
Do you all play with a real joystick? I just hit 50 ingame hours and only used mouse and keyboard, is it worth upgrading?
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>>154205685
>slav bullshit

You realise the tree with both the most papershit AND mainline vehicles that shouldn't be mainline is German, right?
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>>154205774
Fuck off slaveaboo
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>>154205967
>point out a fact
>get called a slaveaboo

haha ok let me just hop in my I-185 and fly away from your argument

praise stalin ok
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>>154205774
The reason they have so much paper shit is that the other trees get post war shit.
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>>154201574
remove RNG bounce, replace with random 12% penetration deviation as per WW2 ballistic standards.
using ammunition developed after vehicle entered service changes BR (if you want to return to base BR, you "uninstal" ammo upgrade in hangar)
spawn cost depends preciselly on BR of vehicle compared to BR of battle. Fully uptiered players can spawn for next to nothing and can effectively spam vehicles. Clubber, better be good at clubbing.
no arcade maps in RB
you know what? Scratch that, give large maps to arcade too
damage buff for solid shots, so they are for more than hoarding assists
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>>154205774
>Papershit

The papershit doesn't even overperform, aside from potentially the Panther 2. Though I'm not familiar with it yet because I haven't unlocked it. The 10.5cm Tiger 2 has the same obvious weaknesses but with a more effective gun. And the Horten, well, it's a fragile wing. Not to mention this >>154206106 with tanks like the IS-2 44 having its insane destructive power made even better with post war shells.
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>>154122840
>cuts off right before wing gets sheared off by a fucking tree
kek
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>>154206656
>being blind
anon he clearly passed the trees by the time the webm ended.
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>>154206106
>other trees get post war shit

>Raketenjagdpanzer
>Leopard I
>Kanonenjagdpanzer
>CL-13A Sabre Mk.5
>MiG-15bis
>plus potentially a new Leopard and Gepard being developed

>>154206362
>papershit doesn't overperform

>the Ho 229 V3, with its engine stats from an engine it never even had or was meant to have IRL, doesn't overperform

And what does overperforming have to do with anything? The Panther II is bullshit, the 105 Tiger II is bullshit, the Coelian is bullshit, the Ar 234 C-3 is barely not bullshit, the Maus is basically bullshit, the E-100 certainly is bullshit and the rocket-boosted Me 262s had one prototype each that were flown in the last months of the war.
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>>154206854
Oh, and the Panther F is bullshit too.
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So... Technicals when?
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>>154206854
>the Maus is basically bullshit
Well unlike the others it exists at least.
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>>154206854
>>154207312
>Rocket-boosted Me 262s

They're two minute planes that turn into complete shit, worse than the Me 262-a1a while simultaneously having to face Sabres and Hunters

>Coelian

Nobody ever complains about this thing except for you right now, so I'm going to assume you're just posting it to try and backup your claims

>Panther 2

I said this one, but I've never used it so I can't confirm. Did you lose your ability to read?

>105 Tiger 2

Just shoot it in its shitty giant turret. Or apparently the driver side hull which I just discovered it is their weakspot.

>Ar 234 C-3

The F80 is faster and at the same battle rating. The F84 is faster. The Mig 9 is faster. Not to mention its guns are complete shit.

>Panther F

Fuck off. Everyone agrees the Panther A is better than that piece of shit.

>Horten

Again, this thing is a fragile wing that gets its shit sawed off immediately from .50 cals. It burns energy in turns and has terrible acceleration. You're not even complaining that these things are overpowered, you're just mad that they're in the game aren't you?
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>>154206343
Sounds good. Worth a try at least.

I always wonder, why Gaijin does what they do? Do they believe they're improving the game?
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>>154207380
New BR 8.0 SPG.
>>
>decide to play tanks
>kill an enemy but get killed
>can't respawn in any of my tanks
>still all vehicles crew locked

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>
>>154207437
What do their performance have to do with the fact that these things are bullshit? I'm not talking about how good they may or may not be.

The C-3 Arado and the two Me 262 prototypes are the only ones among the ones you pointed out that actually existed, and the two 262s only existed as single prototypes.

Everyone complains (rightly) about bullshit like the slavs getting TWO single I-185 prototypes in the main tree, but I'm pointing out that the German tree is just as guilty of having things in it that either never existed or should at best be premium (prototypes).

And as for the Horten, it is literally by definition overpowered. Its in-game flight model and stats are using engines it should not have.
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>>154205663
>posted from my Maus
>posted from my Panther II
>posted from my Horten 229
>posted from my king tiger 105
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>>154207572
Would this piece of junk even be impressive during WW1?
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>>154207572
What the fuck, is that a depth charge launcher or just a DIY spudgun that shoot muh barrel bombs?
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>>154208013
>>154208028
Inshallah
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>>154207402
That's not saying much when it was only just barely finished and in testing when the war basically finished.

>>154207958
What did you mean by this? If it was up to me I'd have all of those removed apart from possibly the Maus as a premium.
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>>154208107
And of course there's this advanced tankette
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>>154206705
>being blind
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>>154208028
I can't even work out what it is myself. The fact the video cuts before each explosion leads me to believe that it's not anything remotely effective though.

At best it's some really shit grenade launcher and at worst it's something they made to launch big barrels so they can detonate an IED in the same spot to make a propaganda video.
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>>154208107
Mash'allah
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>mfw get overtiered because Mohamed used his 8.0s.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM3ElTvF52I

Still funny to watch
>>
How the fuck do you deal with F84s as Japan? Provided any R2Y2s dont deal with them.

I don't think I've ever killed this thing in a prop or Kikka, too fucking fast.
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>>154208805
Russian bias )))
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>>154209056
is that Crossout aka 30bux Early Access for a f2p game )))))))))) ?
>>
>>154209056
What game is this?
>>
>>154209448
>>154209545
>Final Fire
It is on steam greenlight but the game's available now but not translated yet. but everythings fairly easy to understand if you're used to these sorts of games.
>>
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""self sealing"""""""""""""""""""""""""" fuel tanks
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>>154207954
the intended engines for the Horten (HeS 011) would have been even more powerful than the ones it has in game.

>engines existed
>airframe existed
>guns existed

meanwhile the T-34-100 which literally destroyed its chassis when firing is in game.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjXKPttpQcc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjXKPttpQcc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjXKPttpQcc
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>>154210775
don't forget Dicker Max, which burned itself down just by driving into battle.
Or J7W1, which was overheating already on ground, and could not fly for more than 15 minutes
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>mfw i discover the free eagles app for WT
>mfw it's faster, more enjoyable and less frustrating to unlock modules by watching videos and downloading shit than actually playing this game with stock vehicles

i don't even know why i still play.
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>playing EC
>alt tabbed doing homework as I do bomb runs
>hear noise
>tab in
>click
>tab back out
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>>154205530
The G8N has 3 2x20mm turrets but it has the wrong, inferior cannons
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>>154209013

That's about all they can do, go fast in straight lines.

Just maneuver hard when they go on you and try and get them to turn.
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>>154213230
>gonna show him a lil trick I learned
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>>154213659
>armored cars in arcade
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>>154213892
delta s4 still dabest
>>
How likely is the Strv. 81 going to be removed after the swingfire is introduced?
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>>154215267
for what purpose though
>>
>>154215267
>missing with the sheckleflow
0.00000000000000000000000000000% chance
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>>154215387
>>154215390

Strv. 81 was only introduced to give Teebs some sort of ATGM.

It's blatant P2P advantage, with lots of players complaining. Didn't Gaijin do the same with an old premium Tu-2 that was in tier 3?
>>
>>154119301
Can someone tell me why tier 5 allied tanks are the most rage inducing tanks to play wtf happened in the last few months?
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>>154210775
The airframe didn't exist fully, though, the V3 frame wasn't finished when the US soldiers found it.

Not only that, but the frame was redesigned with alterations inbetween V2 and V3 so it's not as if the previous two prototypes are the same as the third.

Plus the engines it has in-game are Jumo 004Ds, whereas in real life it only had the Bs.

As for the T-34-100, that at least EXISTED. It was tested and deemed unacceptable because it damaged itself. The 229 V3 (as a finished plane/the one we have in game) never existed.
>>
>>154215869
>waaaah, historical revisionism is ok when it's on my side
>>
>>154216768
no that's what you're saying
>>
>>154216768
Literally what did you mean by this?
>>
What's the best way to keep the track of enemy?

I got stick with hat switch but it feels confusing when looking around.
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>>154217832
>stick
You're doing it wrong.
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>>154217832
check the op
>>
Does anyone honestly have fun playing this game anymore?
>>
>>154218826
I had fun the other night. Played a single game in my T-54 '47. Got uptiered and killed 2 Leopards, a Rakatenjagdpanzer, and a Kugelblitz.

I think if you play this game extremely sparingly it's pretty alright. Don't expect to progress quickly or really at all if you're at tier 4+.
>>
i just git the panther but i have no lions to train crew so im not playing for a while
>>
>>154218826
yes, spading TI-TIII planes is fun
>>
>>154218826

In the rare off chance that I get a good game it's fun.

It usually isn't though.
>>
Really made me think.
>>
>>154219901
>that packet loss and ping

Get better internet you fuccboi.
>>
>play couple matches
>get killed
>alt F4
>go do something else
A while ago I would have kept playing for another two hours, getting gradually angrier and more frustrated

I think I'm finally free
>>
>>154218708
>>154218757
>design proven impossible to work
>as bad or worse than a theoretical design
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>>154220076
b-but
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>>154219901
OOH OOH OOH AH AH
>>
>Be new player
>Slog through rank I air battles as English (fucking Furys are shit god fucking damn)
>Unlock Blenheim Mk IV
>me_am_play_god.jpeg

Literally the most fun I've had so far with Warthunder is lining up the bomb-sights and getting a bunch of unit destroyed notifications after a while.

That and noobs never look up. Once got 1st place on a team and never got shot at once.
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>>154219901
>when your fat little kiddie legs can't carry you anymore
>>
What tanks at 6.3-6.7 aren't hot garbage? I'm sick of getting killed across the map through my thickest armor while my tank struggles to move.
>>
>>154222128
Most of the US tanks in that range.
>>
>>154222282
Whoops, read that wrong. My bad.
>>
>>154222128
T92, T29, Tiger II (H), Tiger II Sla., Panther II, Cent Mk.3, Caern, Strv. 81, T-34-100, T-44-122
>>
Are the F9F-8 and the Sea Hawk in the game yet or should I fuck off for another year
>>
I can't find the source on the RU forums but people on reddit are saying that the BMD and BMP-1 are confirmed and that in the near future we are going to get tank maps from the 60s-70s (Sinai, Vietnam, Korea etc..)
>>
>>154223493
F9F-6 is coming next patch, which is relatively soon since they've been doing the devblogs this past week.
>>
>>154223864
>F9F-6 is coming next patch,
WHAT

FUCKING
W
H
A
T

LINK ME UP NIGGER MY DICK IS ALREADY ERECT
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>>154223594
nvm, here are the sources.


https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/148246-%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8F%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2-%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2/&page=4
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>>154223965
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/51ambc/its_happening_cougar_confirmed_for_163/
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>>154224421
>B. When a functional PVE missions for the technology will be?

>A. We carried out tests, tank pve- little replayability and boring. In its current form I do not see sense. But to this point we shall return later.
>>
>>154224662
>We carried out tests
Oh so they just don't want to bother adding it.
>>
>>154224627
>yet another post-korean war jet that will fight in korea 90% of the time

HISTORIC ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>
>>154224627
I'd like to have an official anouncement but I guess that's better than nothing after all these years

Color me hyped even though it will probably be turboshit
>>
>>154224720
>Just like ships.
>>
>>154225085
It should be better than the shitsabre at least.
>>
>>154224662
>>154224720
it would be dreadfully boring.
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>>154225504
Other games make it work.
Gaijin is just too lazy to make not-shit AI.
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>skipped Tiger line for TDs/Panthers
>unlock Jagdtiger
>expect to be slow and shat on by everything

I mean I thought I understood the nazibunker meme getting downtiered in the panther D, but holy shit this is on another level
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when
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>>154228197
thats a big gun
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>>154226140
>flying the sh(a)rt stirling over the halifax
>being surprised when your night bomber gets shot down during daylight
>being proud over shooting down a fucking paper plane that dies from a single fucking .303 bullet
>being killed before even reaching your target
>being shit at flying fucking bombers
>being shit at the easiest thing in the game
>teebs will defend this
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>>154228591
kill yourself renamed
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>>154228284
for you
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Just upgraded computer, now where is bote CBT
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>>154229804
december
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>>154229873
>CBT members will get to play it this year! On the last day on the year!
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>>154228591
I actually bombed the base I was flying toward while on fire, but nice b8.
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>>154201894
>ASU has smaller caliber gun
>85 mm is smaller than 76 mm
Huh?
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>>154230131
>people still head on

dumb slav
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>>154230131
Shotgun>fuckhuge gun
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>>154191371
>good armor
>debatable
There are almost no places the American 90 mm, even the extra, extra long 90 mm, can pen it, even at point blank ranges, and the claps are stuck with that gun all the way to 7.7 BR.
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>>154230201
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Quick someone upload some cheats so I can get banned and never play this shitfest again.
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>>154232328
It's called "Delete Local Content".
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How can white planes even COMPETE?
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>>154233409
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More fun camos in game when?
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>>154234842
>gaijin HQ
>boss: we need more money!
>dev: I know! let's add life rings and stop signs to decorate your tank with! No one wants the thousands of unique historical camos we can just copy and paste from books!
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>>154234842
I'm gonna enjoy the swingfire's flat sides for all of the decorating possibilities.
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Why is this BR 5 while the Skyraider is 6, the only thing skyraider has over it is it can turn better
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Newfag still here and playing despite unlocking the Matilda as my first rank II vehicle holy shit this is fucking stupid slow

Is it easier to grind arcade or realistic?
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>>154238771
Grinding plens/tenks always RB, grinding individual modules for your plens/tenks AB
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>>154238771
When grinding tanks, Arcade has faster matches and RB has no bonus for RP, so it's not that useful. That being said, AB is just too meta reliant. There's a bunch of tanks that just aren't useful on it, especially soft glass cannons. Most sane people wanting to have fun would just choose RB tho
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>>154238771
this: >>154238872

if you want modules play arcade, if you want vehicles play RB.
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>>154239034
>>154238771

If you play Germany or Russia. Play Arcade. Their overall armor, plus added mobility in AB will make them really good generally. If you play Americans or British. Its better to go for Realistic since it allows an easier time flanking, moving around the map and you can be more lethal that way.
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>>154239658
Nice teeb and gunship cancer holocausting video.

>>154219901
Even Gaijin's code is awakening to the cancer that is teebs. Get into the chamber now. >>>/gaschamber/
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>>154238771
>>154239034
>>154239809
>arcade tanks
>ever

It's literally a game of who can click on spotted icons fastest. It's utter shit, play RB for fuck's sake. How anyone in this general could actually recommend arcade for tanks is completely beyond me. At least with planes it servers as a tutorial and you can shit on people easily by learning a basic understanding of aerial fighting, but with tanks the only thing that matters is spotting and clicking on a green cross.
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>>154240298
>It's literally a game of who can click on spotted icons fastes

not much difference from RB then is it?
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>>154240298

>You get three spawns, if you fuck up you can come back to the battle you don't have to wait 2-3mins on the queue after you wasted 10mins driving around slow as shit.
>Battles are mixed, so you don't get a team full of nazibunkers or bouncecastle russians
>You have the same RP bonuses as RB, so you end up earning about the same.
>Its usually, Break, Conquest, Domination. Game Modes that take less than 15 minutes to finish.
>Its much better for grinding out tanks and modules.
>1 Bomber/Attacker every few minutes.

RB is pretty much AB+ anyways. I'd argue its even worse. You have ULQ faggots. Faggots that get on AA, capture and then immediately go to a bomber or attacker. People who climb hills on the edge of the map and ATGM or Heatfs.
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>>154241394
>RB
>Icons
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>>154241394
>not much difference from RB then is it?
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>>154241542
>Faggots that get on AA, capture and then immediately go to a bomber or attacker.


holy shit, I need to try this.
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>>154241394
Yes it is, because in realistic a bunch of foliage being in the way prevents you from doing anything worthwhile to a target.

In arcade it's literally irrelevant.
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>>154241617
>>154241604
>le teammate shell hits and a magical icon appears mode

same handholding shit for children
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>>154242481
1. general area not exact
2. you have to be aible to even spot the enemy in the first place
3. you're just retarded
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>>154242642
aible*
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>>154242805
elbia*
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>>154242642
>w-w-what I play isn't arcade+ I s-swear
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>>154243037
>keep backpedeling

i only play rb when i cant play my tiger in sim
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Tanks in general are shite, get over it cuckholds.
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>>154238872
>>154239034
>>154239036

Yeah, not going to lie. After playing Arcade for so long, I fucking suck at Realistic.

Last 4/5 games I drive slow as shit, get flanked and die in one shot, then don't have enough spawn points to respawn.

Back to rank I, I guess. Or switch up vehicles or something.
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>>154244229
Literal arcade babby, Jesus Christ.
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>>154244094
Well yeah, that's why you have to only play the good tanks that shit on everything else.
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>>154244457

Tell me friend. Why is RB better?
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>>154244797
It isn't
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>>154244797
not him but in rb you have to know where to shoot, how to push up and spot. in arcade you point and click or snipe from across the map
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>>154244919
different guy here
tbqh i grind for tanks in arcade and have fun in RB
RB is too inconsistent, if you die at the start you're fucked
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>>154244979
that is how its supposed to be. you cant just charge in and hope to get 3 kills
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>>154244919

>you have to know where to shoot

You also have to know where to shoot in Arcade. Green Cross doesn't guarantee a pen it just shows that your current shell has more pen that the enemy has armor in that spot, it doesn't take in to account angling so the shot can still bounce, the enemy can still move at the last second as well, you still have to deal with the same bullshit you would be dealing with in RB.

>how to push up and spot

You still have to know push up in Arcade. Its even harder in Arcade because of the automatic spotting. It isn't easy for people to sneak up, unless you're totally oblivious to them.

>point and click or snipe from across the map

Like that doesn't happen in RB too? Like I said before as well, Green Cross doesn't guarantee a pen. You'd still end up wasting the same amount of shots by shooting across the map. Doesn't matter what mode you're in, people still try to do those shots whenever they're able and they're still shitters for it.
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>>154244457
Gee, thanks Captain Obvious.

Got any pointers, or are you just going to shitpost?
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99% of the time I get shot by a teammate by mistake, it's always a slav, holy fuck
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>>154245719
look im eating. i just cant but rp requires a more advanced skill set than ab. in ab you have markers and armor thickness indicators. in rb you heave realistic movement and no help to were to aim. all you get is a marker to the general area of were the enemy is. that is IF you can even see and range find him.
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>>154246720
>WT
>requiring skill
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>bomb a carrier with 20+ 500lb bombs
>don't even take off half of its health
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>>154246720

>Advance Skill Set

Is it seriously that hard for people to account for bullet drop, lead shots and aim at the right parts? That shit is baby tier for fucks sake. Like are we going to sit here and act like that's a hard skill?

Although with retards like this>>154241604 maybe it is a really hard skill.
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>>154247329

If you tried that now...

Hit
Critical
Hit
Hit
Tail Control Damaged
Crash
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>>154247603
most of these retards dont even know their is a rangefinder in the game. they also know nothing about enemy armor or using the correct shells outside of memes
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>>154247943
angling
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>>154247768
I've noticed this when using IL-2 variants in tonk mode. Two 100lbers right on a vehicle MIGHT give you a hit)))
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anyone russian 6.7 tanks players want to squad up with a brit tanker? We can shit on german babies all day together
hmu
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>>154247997
Tiger 105 went right through it.
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>>154248007
meanwhile I have no difficulty merking T-10Ms with 4x50kg in my Fw-189

:3c
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>>154248007
Funny, I got a maus with a pair of 100s from my kittyhawk
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>nothing but forest in front of me
>die because every fucking nigger can somehow see through everything even though I can't even when I turn everything down
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>>154247943
because Teeb couldn't afford thick armor on any of their tanks due to the war
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>>154248928
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What low tier premium plane should I purchase to farm lions?
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>>154250770
A6M5 Ko
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>buy the B-29
>regret it because T4 american teams are trash and it's impossible to win
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>>154251943
>me ooga
>team booga
>blog about it
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when
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>>154251943
The only time I can ever win a game with the b-29 is when there is not an absurd amount of undertiered german jets polluting the match.
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Just played 30 games, won ONE FUCKING GAME.
Why the fuck do I even play this shit anymore? I can get 3-5 kills a game but it doesn't matter because my team all dies right away, and no matter how many tanks I kill, they've already killed two more, and had enough spawn points to respawn.
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>jet korea doesn't have SAM launchers bordering the map as the incentive to RETURN TO THE BATTLEFIELD
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>>154253693
>tanks
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>>154253693

>Nearly threw my fist through the monitor earlier because I wanted to seal-club and relax, but my 3-5+ killstreaks kept getting ended by some punk while my team consisted of AFK bots and thumb dwaddlers.

What has this game done to me, I'm usually a super mellow person.
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Does anyone have that pic of luftwaffe recruits being shown the firing angles of B-25 turrets with a model? Oddly specific I know but I can't find it.
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Just broke into tier IV Bong tanks. What should I research first? Also have the Strv 81 because good goy, if that makes any difference.
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>>154255250

Tort is love or hate.
Cent and Caer are worse versions of what you have.
Falcon isn't a Kugelblitz until a lot of grinding.

Go med line. You want the Cent 10/Chief. Conqueror isn't worth it.
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>>154255250
If you have the Strv it basically doesn't matter what you research until the Cent Mk. 10.

Also you should probably kill yourself for buying the Strv.
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>>154255250
Caern first to fill out your lineup. Then grind through the challenger and don't touch it because it's trash, and get the Cent Mk 3. You now have three tanks with decent mobility and armour with 20 pounder guns. From there it doesn't really matter, you have to unlock the rest of the british Tier IVs to progress to Tier V anyways. But for the sake of advice, the Charioteer is like a 20 pounder hellcat with no reverse, and the Tortoise is exactly as the name implies, slow as fuck with lots of armour but it's gun is kinda useless at killing anything.
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>>154255437
I just want to get to the Chieftain before the new patch drops and a filler tank is put in. Strv plus premium is fastest way))))). Also is there any tier IV track I should talisman in particular?
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>>154255376

Oops, forgot tree layout. Scratch Falcon.

Crusader AA Mk 1 is one of the worst late AAs in the game. 3 crew for 1 gun, mediocre pen, mediocre chassis, and struggles to actually hit planes.

Charioteer has god gun on peasant chassis. It's stupid fast, but you have no armor and 3 crew for something nearly as big as KV-2.

Challenger a shit due to TIGER II BEST TANK battle rating, but APDS makes it more bearable. 's eh.
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>>154255587
You have to research five other vehicles anyways so you're not going to get there very soon
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>>154255587

None of them are really worth it anymore now that they're not carrying 20lbers in fucking 6.3. Heard mixed things about Cent 10.

I really liked the Tort, but I'm an oddball who also liked the M6A1. Had a few matches with a ton of RP just for getting stuck in a field immobilized while 4 Tiger IIs kept shooting me and wondering why their wehrawonderboo guns wouldn't kill me.
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>>154255807
But is there any tier IV tank to talisman to ease it up? I've heard the Caernarvon is a good one.
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>>154255961

Caer offers almost nothing over the Cent.

What it has in additional armor, it loses in horrible armor profiling of the front hull where there's multiple ""fun"" gaps/flats for an Ostwind to kill you through.
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>>154255961
Really it's just a throwup between the Cent Mk 3 and Caern if you really want to talisman something. The Cent's biggest advantage is that it's 6.3, but considering the Strv is already 6.7 you wouldn't be able to take advantage of that.

I recommend the Caern mainly because you can get it earlier and it's already 6.7.
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>>154256046
So the Cent 3 is the better choice? Plus is the Cent 10 7.0 because it has a 105mm gun, or did it also have better armor as well? Can't check cause on mobile.
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>>154223594
>start match
>it aint me starts playing
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>>154256282

Nigger just pick one CHRIST

Caer you get earlier, but leads to trash.
Cent you get later, but has a lower BR, but you can't abuse that with the Strv, but leads to the Cent 10
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>>154256462
>Caer you get earlier, but leads to trash.
He has to unlock it either way, you pretty much have to unlock all of Tier IV brit tanks to get enough to start researching Tier V.
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>>154256462
>Getting this buttmad
I think I'll choose the Centurion because of the research efficiency of that line. Thanks fa.m.
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>>154223594

BMP is frontally immune-ish to .50s, but not on the sides. Gun spams small but super penetrative HEAT. And they could decide to give the fuckers ATGMs just to make it worse.

>>154223965

It's likely not. People just want to over interpret a quote from Gaijin's resident forum monkey.
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>>154256659

20 pounders are the reason to play the UK tree anyways.
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>>154223965
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>>154256817
Swingfire will be the reason to play next.

Nothing like a slow moving missile slowing coming towards enemy tanks
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>>154257008
It's not really that much slower, the Drakon is only around 30m/s faster and it's the same speed as the S.11.

They're all slow as fuck compared to the Shillelagh, which is about 100m/s faster than the Drakon.
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>P-47N outmaneuvered and outrun by the P-47D-27
HMMMMM
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>>154257312
Literally incorrect.
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>>154257436
T-tell that to my squadmate and I from our last match?
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>>154254938
What's wrong with tanks?
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>>154257501
Sure, could you relay that to him then?
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>>154257312
The the P-47N was flying slow and dumb.
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>>154207380
god i want this game so badly but i dont speak chink
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>>154207878
retard you could have respawned in a plane without ammo or else your crew wouldnt be locked

god is it so hard to use your brain just once
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>P-47N loses headon with a Pe-2-205 because one has eight M2s and the other has a single Berezin
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>>154231095
why are you comparing it to the weak 90s instead of the 20 pdr or the L7 ? IT 1 is 8.3 i dont see why you would think that using the 90s is a valid point
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>>154233409
^this vid is actually the BK 37 in the G stukas
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>>154238740
no idea the Wyvern also gets better cannons and is insanely fast
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What the fuck is the trick to earning lions in this game? I rarely end up making any at all and I even have a fucking premium tank I won from the box thing
>>
>in a cute animal thread on /wsg/
>see a webm of the screaming cute little desert frog
>am immediately reminded of the time when there was nothing but that frog being posted here like 4 years ago
Time has flown.
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>>154260557
earning shit in tanks is hard just get the A7 jap plane prem and farm 100k+ SL rounds all day every day
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>>154260652
I would do that if I could even fly in this game. I'm on ps4.
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>>154260919
hmm idk then what prem tank do you have? because if its something tier 1 dont even bother
just compare repair cost -> SL earning in % and look what tanks are suited best for you

but eh earning money in tanks is shit 2
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>>154261101
I have the tier 4 T-44-122.
It's cannon is awesome but the reload time makes me want to commit sudoku
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>While the vehicle uses a small radar for range calculation, its weapon was not radar guided and was dependant on an optical lead-calculating sight operated by the gunner.

Will they actually give it an arcade sight or is this just meaningless fluff they put in to sound like they "researched" the vehicle?
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>>154261287
this should be the best you can do in tanks in terms of money earning
>>154261449
its fluff
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>>154261540
I mean, I rape with it when I'm not outnumbered.
I know most of the weak spots on the tier 4 tanks I'm facing by now. Problem is that I just can't seem to get on a winning team. Games where I get 3+ kills we lose, every time. Games where I die right off the bat by a T29 from 2,000,000 meters, we win, thus giving me almost no monetary gain because I died right away.
>>
>https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/329303-japanese-lineup-too-strong/
>>
I've only been playing for a few weeks but I've noticed that RB players in general tend to be a lot more level headed than AB players.
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Next patch
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>>154262889
>T-34-88
5.3 BR
>>
which tier 4 soviet tank should i talisman?
is t62 worth grinding if i dont have the t54s unlocked?
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https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/302341-cessna-a-37-dragonfly-the-cessna-that-bites/&page=1

>passed to devs
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>>154124292
the gun is too good
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>>154123013
Not without a decent competetor, i.e. Stillbrew Chieftain, MBT/KPZ-70, possibly the Leo 2 prototype
>>154124292
Armor is basically the same
>>154263489
not really desu
if you look at the pen of the early ammunition, it's pretty reasonable

Let's end it with this
T-72 never
T-64 at 9.0 with better tanks maybe in the future
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>>154256987
>i would not
doesn't that imply he's wrong?
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>Not killing me in my paper-armored self propelled cannon truck, armed with only non-explosive rocks

O-Okay then Pz-IVs and T-34s.
GG. . .
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>>154263357
>1963
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>>154264841
They said this would happen like a year ago.
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>>154263352
T-44-100 by a mile
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>>154263352
Don't grind for the T-62 first if you don't have the T-54s unlocked. It's a decent tank, but you should only grind it if you have the T-54s unlocked or are an autist like me who loves it. Go for the T-10M or IT-1 first.
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>>154264959
doesn't the 8.0 ruin it? or is matchmaking fucked and it gets downtiered most of the time?
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>>154265094
I have a 6.3 and it seems to constantly be on my team or the opposite team.
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Anyone else remembers this
>https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/279630-1537116-able-to-land-the-me-262-a1u4-at-over-800-kmh-with-minimal-damage/

needs proof that u cant land plane on engines at mach 5
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>>154265067
what are the bad points?
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>>154264304
but T-64 is in every way superior to T-72 where is the reasoning behind allowing the clearly superior tank to pass but block the pile of shit
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>>154264430
that's the implication, that stona's telling him he's wrong and that the f9f-6 is actually coming this patch
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>>154262889
I'd rather have the 85mm, the short 88 is nothing special

Also, was there a gun that WASN'T stuck into the T-34 at some point?
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>>154265663
oh, read the guys post wrong. Thought he said he somehow reckoned we _are_ getting the cougar.

I guess either stona made the same mistake as me, or we're getting it.
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>>154265402
>it's a T-54, if you drive one that isn't the 1947, you will know what I mean
>gun is good, and equivalent to the L7 stock, but it's reload is retardedly long
>mobility is meh, should be worse than it is in game, only better than the chieftain
>if you don't know how to aim for modules then it's not going to be a tank you remotely like
and my personal peeve
>no shell ejection animation

T-10M is better because it's a god-mode tank off the bat, though it basically plateaus from the beginning, because you can't get better than the nuke round it starts off with with enough penetration to get through the mantlet of a T32
IT-1 is better because it's a meme
>>154265585
>gun is same
>armor is same
>mobility is same
only reason you think it's bad is because it gets shat on by modern shit
it's literally a mass produced T-64
plus if we had the T-64, it would be behind the T-10M, where it should be
T-72 would be in the medium line, where an endgame MBT SHOULDN'T be
plus the T-72 is outside the time cutoff of about 1969-1970
T-64A isn't
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>>154264304
T-64 is too much powercreep to be introduced into the game as it is, even at 9.0. It suddenly goes from most top tier MBTs being either kinda mediocre all rounders or excelling in one respect to the T-64 fucking dominating in all regards.
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>>154265749
sounds like it's inferior to m60a1
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>>154265749
read up on the T-64 mate its a heavily downgraded T-72 with a different autoloader

its more similar to the T-80
the T-72 got mass produced because it is alot cheaper
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>>154265804
>fucking dominating in all regards
one way to balance that
give it shit ammo
it's ammunition wasn't very good for a while
>>154265850
the T-62? eh, I'd say at the current state of it, it's about equal. if the M60A1 had accurate armor, it would be superior, making the T-62, the second worst MBT and worst true "MBT"
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>>154265749
>plus the T-72 is outside the time cutoff of about 1969-1970
There is no cutoff date in this game anymore, how many times is it going to be said before everyone learns. The Swingfire, which was JUST ANNOUNCED, when into service during the early 70s.
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>>154265935
fuck i switched T-64 and 72 it should say "the T-72 is a heavily downgraded T-64"

also
>armor same
>gun same
read up on it because the armor sure isnt and the gun probably neither
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>>154262996
Looks like a german modification.
6.0 BR
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>>154266032
actually you're right, the gun isn't the same
it's BETTER
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>>154266074
>he thinks Germany isn't just as pandered
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>>154266074
honestly probably deserves 6.0, it would be better than a tiger.
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>>154266178
>implying gaijin wouldn't add multipliers just so the sloping means nothing
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>>154266256
>getting hit
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>>154265953
hol up m60a1 is broken? which MBTs are not broken?
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>>154266306
Turret armour is too thin iirc.
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>>154266131
yes on the later T-72 versions too bad the 64 got upgraded as well ....
you are being silly here there are alot sources where you can read up that the 64 was superior to the 72 but was also much much more expensive and thats why russians choose the 72 over it
since this is WT and we are talking first production stuff to not make it AW2 we should compare base line versions where the 64 is clearly superior (if we exclude the oddball 64s armed with the 115mm cannon from the 62)
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>FV438 has a pintle mounted M1919
>when it should have an L7/FN MAG
this triggers my autism
>>154266306
I'd say chief keef but with that BR I have to say it's broken
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>swingfire has 800mm of penetration
welp I guess we have a reason to add MBTs now
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>>154266510
500
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>>154266603
why does it say 800 here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swingfire
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>>154266510
the SS.11 Robot 52 actually has ~100mm more but is WASD guided which is alot more fun tbqh
>>154266660
later versions maybe? or just gaijin bs like usually
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>>154266660
Hey guys, let's play the "Find who didn't bother reading the devblog"!

Oh wow, I found him already! Amazing!
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PHOTOREALISTIC
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>play russian tanks
>get hackusated
really makes me think
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>>154266964
DELETE THIS
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friendly reminder that arguing against post stall maneuvering means you are a WG shill
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markers removed from plane RB when?
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>>154268835
Everyone would just play groundpounders.
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>>154269048
its almost like tactial groundsupport suits the game much more
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>>154268703
Post stall maneuvering is realistic ))))) where is proofs )))
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>>154269292
It's not like I'm complaining.
Easy gainz for fighter pilots.
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who the fuck is DI0?
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>>154270139
beaner
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>>154259861
>IT 1 is 8.3 i dont see why you would think that using the 90s is a valid point
Anything within 1.0 range is valid, and as I said, the claps use that 90mm all the way to 7.7
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>>154270349
later versions shouldnt use AP tho and go for HEAT and again thats only 1 nation with a few tanks that cant pen it wile the other nations usually have no problems ( or less at least)
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>>154190937
>using any ATGM in close combat

found the shitty arcade player
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>>154270512
There are vehicles that don't have the option to use HEAT, even when spaded.
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How T H I C C is the E100's rear plate?
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>>154271180
good luck killing me :^)
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>>154271220
yes the T32 i give you that but the T32 shouldnt be on 7.3 anyways i might understand 7.0 but even on 6.7 it wasnt overperforming imo
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>>154271823
You forgot your greentext, you mediocre dunce.
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>>154271994
nah man, its formatted like that to be as visually invasive as possible
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>>154271667
>slavs will literally defend this
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>>154207572
>already decapitated truck with shitty backyard tier modifications
>fires an ill fitting payload that slowly tumbles through the air
>blows up rubble of already destroyed infrastructure

what the fuck? kek
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>>154272162
A gun is a gun I guess
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Curious about stuh 42 tho everybody says its shit
>check video
>skip in middle to get idea of it
>t34 radio absorbs whole heat round
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>>154250770
Both Boomerangs are fun as hell and earn good rewards.
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>>154256817
>20 pounders are the reason to play the UK tree anyways.
>implying its not for the 105 L7A1 available to you at 7.0

come on mang
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>>154272663
>the gun both germany and USA get
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>>154272663
both are pretty overkill pen wise and the 20pdr is even lower at 6.3
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>>154272720
Bongs get the L7 a full 1.0 BR lower, m8. Claps have to grind through three (3) pattons to get that gun.
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>>154272859
it's still not unique to UK
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>>154272131
T. Shitter that is too retarded to flank
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>>154272812
maybe so, but i enjoy using HESH shells on shitty is2's and t-44's
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>>154272973
>so bored that you just start intentionally starting shitposting fights

i kno that feel anon
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>>154272918
>other nations having to use your superior British engineering because its that good.

not even mad bro
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>>154273096
>t. Rheinmetall shill
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>>154273065
what would you do if there was nothing happening at work :^(
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>>154272973
>just flank on that moba arena map tovarish))
>>
>tfw reached the map border, bypassing the town full of enemies to hit the rear
>i self destruct as that didn't happen to Russians in WW2
>>
>play during russian primetime
>always all nations against russians
>always killed by cheating turboslavs with toastersettings and shells guided by slav.exe

reminder that this is fine and everyone arguing against it is a WG shill
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FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT THE LOW PLAYERNUMBERS ARE NO INDICATION FOR A GAME THAT IS ABOUT TO DIE
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>uptiered
>leave
>uptiered
>leave
>uptiered
>leave
does gaijin not want me to play this game? or are there people that actually play when uptiered?
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>>154273959
>using a tank so shit you need to flank
kys
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>>154274296
>he doesnt know how to manipulate BR lineups to his advantage

absolute pleb
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>>154274458
t. t54/47
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>>154274296
>>uptiered
>>leave

how bad are you ?
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>>154274671
t. 54/47

u fucked up anon
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>>154274985
>letting yourself get cucked by the game
>sucking gaijins dick
just kys shill
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>>154275114
>be jew
>blame others only
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>>154261449
>Will they actually give it an arcade sight
guess))))))))))))))
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>>154262889
Was this ever a thing? I know about the 75 mm on the T-34, but I've never heard of the 88
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>>154275165
>shill mad he wont get dosh after the game died
>there is nothign he can do to me to stop it
LMAO
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>>154275289
its a legend but theres no proof at all iirc
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>>154275291
>dosh

what kind of autistic term is that
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>>154274203
F2P games never really "die". I'm sure there are people still playing Mechwarrior Online or Tribes, but the games are well past gone.
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>>154275492
That's pretty old slang, senpai.
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>must actively used me262 version had bombs
>not ingame

NO BIAS
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fun and engaging gameplay
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>>154275845
>me262
>Me 262 was a bomber IRL
>called a fighter ingame
???
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>>154276496
>F-117
>has the F designation
>officially called a stealth fighter
>no air combat capability
???
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>>154272973
>Just flank
>on a map that is open as fuck and any decent player would see you flanking over half a kilo away before you got behind
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>JUST MAX IT OUT :DD
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>>154276826
friendly reminder that ULQ doesnt give you and advantage and arguing against it makes you a WG shill
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>>154276826
when did nuclear detonations make their way in to this game?
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>>154276826
Gaijin should have removed the sun bullshit long ago back when i twas a huge disadvantage on release with Kursk
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>>154277096
fuck off WG shill. the game is fine as it is
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>>154276937
>>154277071
>>154277096

This is how a sunrise looks like. I just don't get it why does it have to rise at the North or South sometimes
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>>154276826
while we see absolutely retarded weather effects, the average player just goes "this is an amazing display of nature" and thinks it's pretty

it's never going to change
>>
>my spitfire outrolls a fw190

i guess short wing spite werent needed anyway. why were teebs so retarded and build them anyway?
>>
What will todays surprise be? Could it be the shilka? Gepard? Tu-95? Something related to the desert?
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>>154278453
noone cares anon. the game is dead on only shills remain

all thats left for me is to be as much of an asshole as i can be ingame
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>>154278453
i dont think they're releasing anything related to patch name except for panzer with 88
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>>154277729
Real dogfights are flown at higher speeds.

Turn rate was much more limited since the pilot would be knocked out long before getting into lead.
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>>154278530
WoTg wants you back
>>
So how are you guys enjoying the autistic bomb thunder that has turned the game into 3 min math problems for people with Asperger?
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>>154279216
>planes
>high tier planes
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>>154279216
You sure you aren't mixing up Silent Hunter and War Thunder?
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2ch /wtg/ is pretty funny desu
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>Most feedback and responses from the addition of ATGM vehicles has been positive actually. Most seem to grasp the core concept of ATGM gameplay, how they work, how they fight and how to best them in combat. All of them have strengths and weaknesses that can be exploited and none of the are able to rule the battlefield by themselves. ATGMs are very easily countered, especially to most tier V machines. The addition of the Swingfire only further balances tier V as not all Ground Forces nations have reseachable ATGM capable machines.

t. Gaijin admin

>and none of the are able to rule the battlefield by themselves
Holy shit its like gaijin doeant even play their own game. The IT-1 is literally the best tank right now.
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>>154277538
>This is how a sunrise looks like
Maybe if your eyes are broken.
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>>154279563
what do they talk about?
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>>154279571
FUCK OFF WG SHILL

>>>/wotg/
>>>/wowsg/
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/gaschamber/
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>>154279694
>They say the average American spends on the game 7 times more dough, a European 3-5 times, even the Chinese, 2.5 times more! And they all like it, they do not much load the server. Rusaki the only whine and require a server load. Therefore, you dick without salt instead of shares to Russian server.

There's that and some other dude talking about how his grandmas village was burned down by nazis or someshit
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>>154279753
I forgot lgbt was a board, thanks.
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>>154279438
>>154279452
I play tier 1 for fun and high tier just cause well, just cause.

The entire game is literally 2 guys bombing the shit out of everything in 3 min getting 2+k.

while people wanting to do, you know, dog fighting, get perhaps one kill and if you're lucky over 1k.
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>>154279952
>playing RB
>cries when people do the objective
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>>154280163
>playing AB
>selfish bombers turning the game to shit, sucking all the fun out of it with lazyness
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>>154280416
If you're playing AB and cant break 1k then you're doing it wrong.
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i should just learn russian tbqh, their thread seems way comfier than this one
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>>154280508
>non prem
>time for perhaps one kill in those 3 mins the game lasts
>1k mayby if your team wins

Yeah totally doing it wrong. Not like the entire list after shows people with one or two kills and two pilots having 30 AI groundtargets at the top.
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>>154280643
1k per 3 mins is very good why are you crying
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>atgms spark
>teamkilled by leo

time to go back to lowtiers and block people until they teamkill me to kill the game
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>>154280643
>arcade
>lasting 3 mins

What universe are you from?
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>even slavs hate ulq shitters
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>>154280805
MAYBY! If your lucky!

more often than not its closer to 500.

Yeah im horrible for wanting to spend more time in game than in THE FUCKING QUE
Just to get in a game where a bunch of bomber pilot scum turns it into DIVE BOMBER WITH A STRATBOMBER LOL bonanza.
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>>154281000
Have you considered shooting then down?
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>>154281024
Well lets see, you spend 2 mins climbing to bomber altitude, perhaps you get one bomber, more often that b29 dives at speed that would have ripped its wings off.

Now do i follow the bomber down and hope to kill it? More likely some vulture on the ground will get it and give me an assist.

Giving me no time to climb back up to bomber alt, cause the bomber pilot has already spawned a new bomber and is on his way to end the game with his second pass.

Yeah i really fucking love this idiotic, selfish, lazy bomb thunder.

As i said, a game supposed to be about air combat is now nothing more than bomb bus math for douchebags.
>>
Does the keen sight and awareness do something in RB?
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>>154281327
yes it marks enemys in air battles
>>154281259
dont play arcade problem solved
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>>154281259
>complain bombers dive
>refuse to dive with them and stay at bomber alt doing nothing

Okay then anon, maybe you should just stop playing that br range if its too hard.
>>
>>154281612
I WOULD, if games weren't 3 mins long. That means that if you dive after you might get a kill, AFTER the bomber douche has dropped his load onto the base, and maybe kamikazes as well.

Now your are at 1000m, the bomber spawns at 4k and his next pass ends the game, and you have no chance or time to reach altitude again.

The bombing even means that dog fights that takes to long means that no one gets a kill. Fuck skill and fun and all that aslong as you can get free XP by being a lazy bomber AMIRITE?!
Yeah the problem is with me.
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>>154281990
Stop playing arcade
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>>154282023
>let's not care about that the biggest part of WT is broken to shit and just be smug RB players instead.
>>
>>154282126
literally yes?
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>>154282126
>games broken because you go for dog fights rather than objectivea and do t work as a team to take out the bombers


Okay anon
>>
Redpill me on 9UT. It seems fuck.
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>>154282263
You have no CHANCE to keep bombers from ruining the game. But i guess you are one of those bomber bus douchbags arent you?
>>
New bread when
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>>154282416
lets just move to 2ch instead
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>>154282126
kys arcade babby
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>>154282449
>look at me im a bomber fag
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>>154282512
>planes
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>>154282394

If you aren't getting at least 5 kills before the game ends, you're a shitter. If your team isn't going for bombers, your team are shitters. If you or your team doesn't bomb or ground pound, you're shitters.

AB Air Battles is the easiest shit imaginable. If the games are ending in 3 minutes(which I highly fucking doubt) then that's on you and your team. The other team is obviously playing the objective and finishing the game. Look, I know it must be hard realizing you're shit at this game but come on, maybe you should play something else.
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>>154282645
dumb frogposter
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>>154282512
>playing planes
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>>154282712
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>>154277538
>This is how a sunrise looks like

maybe if you only ever leave your basement once every few years
>>
Tournament "Novorossiysk operation" is the third in a series of three tournaments in the mixed battles 7x7 "Summer maneuvers", the results of which the top 30 players in each of the modes will receive a premium technique: Soviet aircraft
P-63A-10 Kingcobra and German tank VK 4501 P.

For every 10 wins player gets a box with a supply of the following items:

understudy x5 on technique 2-4 rank of the USSR and Germany,
power 30% for Silver Lions and Research Points;
discount of 30-50% on the purchase of the USSR and Germany premiumnyh equipment (except art 1.61)
. camouflage techniques for 2-4 rank of the USSR and Germany's
Tournament is available for all game modes (SB, RB and SB) in the section "Events and tournaments."
>>
>>154282663
>highly doubt
>you are shit

Yeah my personal skill is the reason why matches last 3-4 mins, often shorten than THE QUE TIME, not like its a team game or anything.
BOTH TEAMS ARE GOING FOR GROUND TARGETS.

So you have no fucking idea, here is an idea TRY A MATCH

But sure, keep arguing that your shitty selfish bomber behaviour is
>playing the game as its supposed to be played
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>>154277538
>This is how a sunrise looks like

no, it really doesn't.
>>
redpill me on the 54 47 should i talisman it? if i have the 34-100 already
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>>154283131
>playing objective

Sounds like they are playing the game it was designed yo be played.
>>
>>154283131

I've unlocked the whole German, Russian, British Trees to Tier 4 by just playing Arcade. I've gotten over 20 Kills in Spitfires on AB, 80% of players in AB matches get at least 3 kills. Whats you're excuse?

I only play Bombers in RB because of how absolutely shit it is to play Bombers in AB.

I know you're mad, you want to blame something. But don't get mad at people for playing the game how they want to and actually playing the objectives. Honestly, if you can get 5 kills in less than 5mins you suck, plain and simple.
>>
>>154283298
2 premium gain vehicles > 1 premium gain vehicle, unless you consistently hit the RP roof with the T-34-100.
>>
https://warthunder.com/en/news/4230-esport-the-novorossiysk-operation-7x7-en/

Generous
>>
>>154283298

Get the ZSU-57-2 and Talisman that. Become Cancer. You're probably getting uptiered 70% of the time and if you do get downtiered you'll still be going against 6.7s and shit you can pen anyways.
>>
>>154283461
Rp roof?
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>>154283593
there is a soft cap to how much RP you can get in a game. I don't know how high it is for tanks right now, I've only played planes the last few months.
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>>154283383
>divebombing in a B29
>as it's designed to be played desu

Only metagaming bombers defend this.

>>154283440
Ive unlocked most of the brit, american and german trees. Been playing since 1.47

>20 kills in a spit

Sure try that now boyo. I miss the days when THAT WAS POSSIBLE.

>git gud

yeah not like its a team game or anything... You know nothing about my skills, sure im mediocre. But when the entire team get a few kills max per game and two bombers pilots are at the top of the list. THE GAME IS FUCKING BROKEN
>>
>>154283593

If you got premium, with a talisman/premium tank. The ceiling is usually around 7k to 9k RP on really good games where you cap and kill 4+ players.
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>>154218826
late T2 to early T4 planes are fun
T2 tanks are fun
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>>154283790
for tanks ia ssume?
because i regulary get 15k+ games in planes
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>>154283843
plane RP gains have always been better, yes.
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>>154283528
>esport
This kills warthunder.
>>
>>154283881
eh im happy about 3k games in tank RB even tho i have one or several high tier prems tanks and/or talismaned tanks
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>>154283725
Maybe you should find a new game where deathmatch is the game mode.

Youre clearly incapable of WT
>>
>>154241394
>gotta spot enemies yourself
>gotta know how to aim
>gotta know where you can pen
>no enemy tags = can flank and ambush
>can use your planes
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>>154284030
>wt playerbase is dropping like a stone
>bomb thunder is standard game format

It wasnt this shit a few patches back, but i guess you enjoy your metagaming.

Bring back bombing inaccuracy, but they the aspie math pilots cry
>>
>>154284074

Refer yourself to this>>154245719

The same shit you deal with in RB, you deal with in AB. Fuck, AB is actually the harder game mode to play.

Also, I love how everyone says AB is just point and click. Like RB isn't the same?
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>>154284265
>AB is actually the harder game mode to play.
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>>154284223
Good, i cant wait for all you arcade aspies to quit. If anyone has ruined this game its you.
>>
>in a Jumbo vs Tiger
>turret is 178mm thick
>tigers maximum pen is 165
>tears right through it with one shot

Explain.
>>
>>154284223

You're mad at people playing the roles of the planes they use. Are you grasping that? You're mad that bombers bomb. You're mad at people playing the objectives.

Its seriously is a matter of "git gud". Ive seen people every other thread posting high kill counts on AB. I would totally understand if you complained about Bombers in Realistic, but come on. You're complaining about them on Arcade. Bombers are fine on Arcade, they're trash and if your team ignores them you deserve the loss.
>>
>>154284476
The Jumbo is bugged, everyone knows that.
>>
>>154284452
How do you even know this if you're a RB bomber? Pilot who haven't played AB in a long time?

And btw how long do you think the servers will be up if AB players dry up completely?

>muh muh meta game bombing based on math
>>
>>154284476
Game rolls a dice and adds additional millimeters of penetration to each hit.
>>
>>154283593
Don't listen to the retards, it's a myth some shitposter started up. There isn't an RP cap.
>>
Is anybody going to bother making a new thread? Or are we confirmed for ded?
>>
>>154284604
>implying im a RB bomber

Please do quit. No one cares about you casual AB shitters.
>>
>>154284707
Make it youself lazy fucking cunt
>>
>>154284513

ITS NOT THAT MY TEAM LOSES ITS THAT MATCHES LATS 3-4 MINUTES REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS

You really are fucking dumb. Groundpounders are killing this game one match at a time, sucking all the fun in air combat out of it and you cant fucking see that?

Should i be mad at bombers really, no i should. Its Gajin who doesnt give a fuck if you can win a game by spawning twice as a bomber and win the game in 3 mins. BECAUSE NO ONE HAS A CHANCE TO GET THE BOMBER BEFORE IT DROPS ITS LOAD WHEN IT DIVES.
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>>154240298
planes arcade is fun, because it plays so different from RB, it hardly fells like same game. FM, DM, mission design, ballance, tactics all is different,
tank arcade on the other hand is pretty much same as RB, but with tons of handholding added for sake of lowering importance of skill and experience to result of battles.
>>
>>154284707
>100 posts this morning alone

We ded
>>
>>154284716
Then why is it triggering you then faggot?
Why do you care about AB being bomb thunder?
If your such a big bad ass RB player
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>>154284758
>AB shitter problems
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>>154284641
haha yeah
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>>154284758

You keep spouting that 3 minute bullshit. Show me 3 games you've played that ended in less than 3 minutes.

I'm sitting here, telling you that you're mad at people playing the objective. Something that has always been there. You're getting mad at bombers and attackers doing their job. Maybe if you did your job better as a fighter and killed them, or focused on other fighters you would actually accomplish something.

The bombers and attackers are doing their job and getting points. Why can't you position your reticle at the leading circle and click?
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>>154285157
>Show me 3 games you've played that ended in less than 3 minutes.

No OP, but I think he means that the match is decided within 3 minutes, not actually ends.

It's hard to argue with that. Bombers and attackers play for themselves, not the team.
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>>154284735
I don't care
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How important are crew skills in planes and tanks? It takes forever to train them.
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>>154285471
They give you the edge, especially in plane combat with G resistance and stamina.

Less so in tanks because the game flows differently.
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>>154285571
So if you're using the same crew, just throw all the points into the pilot instead?
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>trophy prize for random camo

Good to see Gaijin have done absolutely nothing about the fact that your camo prize can be for a vehicle you don't have that is no longer in the game.

'Working as intended.' )))))))))))
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>>154285764
Well no. If you play ground RB then you want to have both tanks and planes in game, in separate slots.

The skills are separate.
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