/emugen/ - Emulation General

Hey /emugen/.

What's up?

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>>154007226
JOHN

NUMBERS

>>154010302
>you will never be beaten so hard that you become a tranny
feels good man

>try to make a 60fps hack on dolphin by switching between the 25 and 30hz mode in a pal game
>after first few attempts no longer get the question to change the mode of the tv on game startup
watdo, tried deleting the dolphin folder and the dolphin settings folder in documents but I no longer get the choice to change between 25 and 30hz.

trannies

>>154008738
Evening anons
Trying to run few saturn jap games in SSF.
Everything works fine but the resolution is stuck to 320x240 no matter what option I pick.
What am I missing.

>>154010656
Run em in fullscreen. SSF cannot raise the internal resolution of the game, it can only upscale.

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>>154010821
Any option in particular I should tick on order to look at least ok at full screen?

>>154010957
>using an integrated GPU
Do you at least have the drivers for those installed?

>>154010656
Why are you not using mednafen?

>>154011082
I don't think you really need up to date drivers for a software renderer that hasn't been updated in years.

Not that anon btw.

>>154011082
It runs crysis at 24fps 720p don't you worry about it.

>>154011093
I don't know where to start in the documentation with all the settings in the cfg.
SSF runs at full speed no problems so I dont know why I would even bother switching.

>>154011386
>I absolutely can not use a program without a WIMP GUI

You don't even need the documentation (not that it's the least bit confusing) just fucking drag the cue onto the exe.

How do you feed yourself?

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The reason Game Boy emulators aren't that accurate is because nobody really cares about the Game Boy. And I don't mean, "I care! I want an accurate emulator!", I mean, nobody cares enough to spend ten years of their lives making one.

It's a nice system, but it's no NES or SNES. The documentation on it is total shit that's stuck in the late '90s. The test ROMs are mostly a total joke that just run dumb loops, checksum the results and print a pass/fail without even understanding what it is they're supposed to be testing. People pass them by fudging cycle counts so they get higher tasvideos accuracy scores, but don't bother to actually understand/document what's really happening. Emudevs are too concerned about having the 700th Game Boy emulator that can run fullspeed on a Nintendo DS or a first-gen Raspberry Pi, so the code becomes way too convoluted and difficult to debug/understand. Seriously, as amazing and fast as gambatte is (and it's definitely both) ... I can't make heads or tails of what it's doing from its source code. The emulators get 1-2 years of really active development and then move on to life support.

There are some people that are definitely helping (and that's fantastic!!), but it's not enough. We find new behaviors, write up a test ROM, and a week later find out it breaks several games and fails on real hardware. But we've already moved on to some other area. This isn't how you do it! You have to spend a month on that one problem, and really understand exactly what's happening! You have to rule out every other possible alternative explanation, and test absolutely every combination there is! Otherwise, we're just going to keep chasing our tails fixing one thing just to break two other things in a perpetual game of whack-a-mole.

If you really care about Game Boy emulator accuracy, ... then that person could be you! So, what's stopping you?

>>154011082
It's probably better than a A4-4000

>>154011594
Look nigger im not born yesterday.
Dont go all tough on me with epic seekted command lne XXD.
if you have mentally issues its not my fault take tham and go back to /g/.
fucking idiot

Drag and drop on cue makes mednafen run at 10 fps.
Meaning I need to dive in cfg options.

>>154011776
>Drag and drop on cue makes mednafen run at 10 fps.
>Meaning I need to dive in cfg options.
No it means you have a toaster you useless fucking retard

>>154011776
Not that anon but why don't use the RA core or an external gui program(or whatever it's called)?

>>154011885
The core has absolutely no settings last I checked

>>154011869
>SSF runs full speed
>mednafen requires to tweak few options
>GARBAGE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GARBAGE

Filtered

>>154011885
No gui front i found offers options besides the very basic ones.
if you have something in mind i will give it a shot.

>>154011093
>why are you not using a worse emulator

Don't get me wrong mednafen saturn is looking pretty promising, but it's not better than SSF yet
It might not even be better than Yabause

>>154011869
Well when I play PS1 game with mednafen they run pretty well, so I guess that means saturn games just don't run well, or that he should get a A4-4000.

>>154012363
Your computer is just not fast enough to run mednafen-saturn retard. There's barely anything you can change from the default settings that will improve performance.

The answer to "Why are you not using mednafen?" should be "My computer is too shit" not "It's too complicated"

>>154012460
>It might not even be better than Yabause
>I've never used mednafen

>>154012585
It's almost as if the Saturn requires a fuck-ton more horse power to run than the PSX emulator because they are different systems and the Saturn's hardware is more obscure and harder to emulate than the PSX's because it has two CPU's running in tandem.

>>154012363
Mednafen doesn't require you to tweak a few options, because Mednafen doesn't have options to tweak. It's the most retard friendly emulator because you just drop the .cue into the .exe and go with it.

Well, it WAS a retard friendly emulator until you showed up.

>>154012707
Ah that explains it

>>154012707
There are some games that Yabause is able to run that Mednafen crashes on start that I've seen reported, don't remember which though, and considering the buttload of shit saturn rips on there on the internet that could have always been the case.
Again I'm not here to shit on mednafen, I hope it saves saturn emulation and takes the reins from SSF, but it's still too early to tell. It's been what, a month since it came out to the public, this shit takes time

>>154012460
There's no hard facts to suggest either one is more accurate. But mednafen being written by someone who actually cares about accuracy, being open source, and not requiring DRM disc fuckery is enough to put it way ahead for me.

SSF is probably super HLE written using NDA docs, and we've seen exactly the kind of "accuracy" that gets you with N64.

>>154012707
>Well, it WAS a retard friendly emulator until you showed up.
You seem to be very troubled person if every other word or yours is "retard".
Thats besides the point and it doesn't explain why SSF runs fine and retard proof elite emulator doesn't,since no options and all.
Grow up.

Thanks for the help guys,as with every other thread on /vg/ it is bound to have mentally ill people.
Take care

>>154013012
Bye

>>154012951
>SSF is probably super HLE written using NDA docs, and we've seen exactly the kind of "accuracy" that gets you with N64.

Don't forget a million and one hacks too. ;)

>>154012920

The only bugs reported so far are never graphical bugs, or major issues, but rather games not starting. That's a good sign. IT shows that it's likely just very minor issues that can be fixed in a few releases.

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>>154013554
>The only bugs reported so far are never graphical bugs
I reported this bug on day one when the libretro port came. On every screen in SotN, there's an oddly coloured line at the very bottom of every room. I don't know if this happens on real hardware, if it's a libretro port exclusive bug, or if it's been fixed yet.

So yeah, there are/were graphical bugs.

>>154013763

Has anyone tried Saturn Symphony with Composite shaders? I want to see the ditehring blended properly in full glory ;)

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So this... is the power of emulation.

>>154013763
>I don't know if this happens on real hardware, if it's a libretro port exclusive bug, or if it's been fixed yet.
>So yeah, there are/were graphical bugs.

So, you dont know if it happens on the real thing(perhaps hidden by overscan?) orif it's a bug in the shitty libretro port? But yeah, it must defibitely be a bug in mednafen. Seripusly kys, faggot. Do some testing or fuck off.

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>>154015516
>fake LuigiBlood

>>154014520
Turn the gamma down, you pussy

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bhas bbyuu bgone btoo bfar?

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>>154019461
I can't even bring myself to be incredulous anymore. Byuu could start designing a trinary CPU for better running bsnes written in the b programming language, and I would just be like "Yep, that Byuu alright. Nothing to see here."

>>154019829
>trinary
>not bynary

>>154015648
Fake LuigiBlood is better than the real LuigiBlood though

>>154021840
Hello, Fake LuigiBlood

>>154019829
Not that hard. Designing them small is the real bitch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setun

Emulation when?

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Jesus christ I have emulated many games before but somehow I cannot for the life of me get FF7 to work. This PSX shit is just awful. This should be the simplest game to run considering its popularity, and yet somehow a person with decent computer knowledge has been struggling to get either the PC version or an emulated PSX version to run for several hours now.

Am I just a huge fucking retard? I feel like it shouldn't be nearly this difficult

>>154024608
Drag the .cue into the mednafen.exe after putting the BIOS into the BIOS folder

This is not rocket science

>>154024608
>Am I just a huge fucking retard
Yeah
You are such a fucking retard that not only can you not emulate one of the easiest systems to emulate out there, you can't even articulate yourself to the point of writing 2 lines which describe literally nothing about your problem.

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>>154024686
Obviously I tried this with several different sets of BIOS.
I think I just got it to work. Looks like the BIOS that it actually needed had an unnecessary "-" in the filename. I wish I had known about the errorlog file stdout.text earlier.

Whatever, fuck you guys I'm going to play video games.

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Beetle PSX HW needs any special configuration? I disabled the CG shaders (only used quilez anyway) but when I load a game Retroarch closes to desktop. Using latest nightly

>>154024608
But

I thought there was a PC version of FF7

>>154024608
>>154025786
Oh wait you can't even get the PC version to work?

What's your OS

>>154024608
>>154025581
>>154025786
>>154026084
Oh you managed to fix it

I guess I'm retarded too

>>154025705
It's nowhere near being usable yet. Just use regular Mednafen, or use PGXP if you really need "muh HD" but are too stubborn to play Twin Snakes

>>154026241
Actually I just wanted to play Ridge Racer, for the rest of games I don't really care about muh hd

>>154026241
I just can't play 3D PS1 games on anything other than PGXP

It just looks so bad

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>>154026217
you can make up for it by naming my large black man

>>154026369
Negro

Just

Negro

>>154026369
Boss Nigga

>>154026369

Beebee C.

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>>154026557
Boss Nigga was a close second

>>154026895
I always named him Uncle Tom

>>154026975
Wait a second

You aren't the real vib-ribbon guy

Guys, i just found out about this Citra Emulator that emulates 3DS, recently

I was wondering...is this shit legit?

>>154027520
It is malware.

>>154027520
I fucking hate you

>>154027520
No

>>154027520
I'd say it's starting to be something I'm closely taking a look at.

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Just by thinking of the 3DS, I have become its savior and updated my title on Assemblergames accordingly.

>>154028234

Sure, sure....Why not?

I'd like to ask one question.

D3D. RetroArch. When will it rise again?

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>>154010302
Look at how frightening he is. Does he think he's being frightening in that webm?

>>154012363
Woohoo, another iGPUfriend. It's so lonely here.

>>154033559

Shit like this is why I'm glad Saint Rhyphecha remains firmly ensconced in the shadows.

>>154010408
I assume that's written to the memory card, so you'd wanna delete those, though I would also assume they're in either of those Dolphin folders you deleted.
I can't help

>>154012707
>Well, it WAS a retard friendly emulator until you showed up.
I'm as the kids say, rolling on the floor like a helicopter.

>>154024608
I know you got it fixed, but how did you fail so hard? Seriously ePSXe is easy, mednafen just werks, pcsxr is the same as ePSXe and retroarch has an approachable PSP-style menu.
What went wrong?

>>154035217
>windows

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>>154012707
>Well, it WAS a retard friendly emulator until you showed up.
DAMN SAVAGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8NDwMqaGWA

>>154035714
I have a Windows 10 machine and I've NEVER had compatibility issues, even on programs that others complain about.
Seems like compatibility is based on your version of w10, your upgrade path, and hardware maybe? Not entirely sure, but I'm not entirely gay as fuck either so I don't actually care.

>>154035718
I feel ya, one of my favorite posts all year.

>>154027081
i am haha
so what are we talking about today emulators or trannies

>>154037727
Wait a second

You aren't the real vib-ribbon guy

>>154037727
Retards

>>154038149
Wait a second

You aren't the real LuigiBlood

>>154038156
>>154038278
Wait a second

You aren't the real Anonymous

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>>154038543

>>154028234
Filtered.

>>154038818
If you're going to filter people to make a safe space go on tumblr

>>154039123
Wait a second

You aren't the real vib-ribbon guy

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Tranny bump

>>154040042
Hot

>>154040042

He/she's a speedrunner, right?

>>154010957
Scanlines, enforce aspect ratio, bilinear and those bottom stretch/full size ones.
>>154012460
>It might not even be better than Yabause
It is already light years better than that piece of shit.

>>154041891
Yeah he's pretty good at Mario https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX1ccFY6XAs

>>154041891
That's Cosmo. You may remember him speedrunning OoT and claiming no one would beat his record, only to be rekt like a week later. Or the time he was rekt on stage in front of hundreds of people by John Numbers.

>>154040042
Is it dead?

Quick! Someone post the spoopy dancing tranny webbum with the skellington music!

>>154042317
What happened to him to drive him to this?

>>154042317
Was that a man who ran over a kissed him at the end?

For PS2, which is better?
>Compilations
>Emulators

>>154044130
see >>154042245

>>154041918

pretty sure saturn mednafen is largely based on the research done by the yabause team.

a big update for yabause just came out. i would be surprised if mednafen had significantly higher compatibility already. has anyone done any tests to comparethem?

>>154044989
Looks like Mario isn't his game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt7yahNeDtc
Pokemon Blue on the Gameboy Emulator for Virtual Boy
Jesusfuckingchrist.jpg

>>154046648

Why is the sound so shit? Is that accurate?

>>154046749
No
It's a Gameboy emulator on the Virtual Boy you fucking retard do you expect it to be accurate

>>154047149

Oh I thought it was an official thing like the super gameboy, only for visualboy.

That's pretty impressive then. Are there visualboy flashcart to test it on the real hardware?

>>154047553
yeah

>>154046648
>that sound
>that head at the start of battle
>that desktop recursion
>that fucking sound
ahegao'd

>>154047149
Are you sure it's not the emulator fucking things up? Buy a VB and a flashcard and try it out on the real thing.

>>154047669
it's mednafen
it's not fucking things up

>>154047787
You shouldn't assume the emulator is perfectly accurate. None are, even bsnes. There's things some SNES homebrew do that work on the real console, but don't work in bsnes. Byuu refuses to fix them, because no official games do those things.

>>154047974
so much for accuracy
why do emudevs have to do dumb shit
i now hate mamedevs zilmar AND byuu

>>154048250
I just hate emulators

>>154048854
You've found your home here, friend.

>>154048854
I love you.

>>154050241
I remember this game

It's too hard

>>154050241
So how do you guys make your webms? What programs do you use to covert, edit, and remove sound?

>>154050449

obs for capture, ffmpeg for conversion

>>154050449

I capture with OBS, and use Xmedia Recode for the rest.

>>154050712
ffmpeg has an ra core i believe, should i use that or standalone?

>>154050914

You should lookup a guide online because you obviously don't know what you are doing.

RA's ffmpeg core cannot be used to convert video formats, only to display videos.

>>154051058
okee dokee i will

>>154051058
>RA's ffmpeg core cannot be used to convert video formats, only to display videos.

What happens if you make it record a video while playing back a video?

hmm so theres 2 wiiu emulators now, decaf any good?

>>154052485
Cemu is closed source, so it's obviously the correct choice. Don't forget to donate to their patreon.

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This thread is dead.

I'm moving to reddit.

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Let me shitpost some more to keep the fire burning

>>154057659
>not emulating the best part

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk_DbDVyEwU

>>154059829
>Ever using Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/514yjm/nes_remix_2_with_decaf_better_than_cemu/d7a1317?context=10000

>>154012653
>blaming hardware instead of the unoptimized software
Stop shilling mednafen..

>>154046648
You think they would have picked Pokemon Red instead.

>>154061321
get a better pc faggo mednafen is easy as shit to run i bet i could run it on my mom's fucking yoga

>>154050241
wat game?

>>154061838
I JUST THOUGHT OF THAT RIGHT NOW AND I WANT TO KILL MYSELF

>>154061918
Looks like King of Dragons.

>>154062010
Don't let us stop you.

>>154062720
emugen claims another soul........

>>154061897
>mednafen is easy as shit to run
The emulator dev herself says that the emulator is optimized
Why are fanboys so fucking retarded?

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Hacking and homebrew general said this would be a good place to talk about ROMhacking. Is that allowed here?

>>154063489
no, kys.

>>154064152
thanks

>>154022854
How many games were on it?

>>154063095
you know what optimized means right

Hello. I am new to this thread.

I want to emulate Wii games on my PC. How would games that require motion control work? All I have is a PS4 controller, no wii mote or Nunchuk.

>>154065956
PS4 controller has a gyroscope and touchpad, which could be useful. You can also map actions such as shaking and tilting to buttons. Wii games use a lot of different control schemes, so I like to keep a remap file for each game and set it to default to that in the ini file.

>>154063489
I think it's fine, what did you want to talk about exactly?

>>154066197
I'm just glad to know it'll work. Thanks!

i made the mistake of selling my ds lite a while back
i was thinking of buying a new one with a flashcart, and i was wondering about emulation.
see i have a psp but i have a chinkshit memory card for it that sometimes wont work and ds lite is wayyyy more comfy imo
so i know it wont be as good as psp but like what can ds do
i know it can do nes/gb/gbc and probably sms/gb, and gba/ds natively which is super neat
but what else
if it doesn't have much else i don't really care cuz that's still a lot and the comfiness factor can't be ignored

>>154046648
>>154046749
>>154047669


the sound shouldn't be that tough to get right. The gameboy has a limited amount of hardware state for most of it's sound channels. The virtual boy has a 6 channel wave table chip(basically pc-engine but with higher bit depth), which can replicate any waveforms the gb can produce.

>>154067173
Even if the chip is simple in theory, that doesn't mean it's simple to emulate. The GB has a ton of edge cases that don't get emulated in most emulators. There's next to no research into the VB compared to the GB, so I guarantee the emulation is shitty.

>>154067367
I just mean the sound though.

The gameboy has 2 pulse channels with 3 pulse width settings, then you can set volume(the gb does this in sweeps sorta). Those should be no problem. Just 3 different waveforms to cover.

Then it has a 32x4bit wave channel, should also be no problem. Probably not too difficult to just read the wave data, and play it back on any of the VBs channels.

It also has a noise channel. Not sure what the best approach would be for that.

>>154034493
>though I would also assume they're in either of those Dolphin folders you deleted.
Right? I'm so confused.

Is Saturn emulation even worth it or should I just find a used console and games on ebay?

>>154073707

You know the answer to that. Stop bumping the thread with fake questions.

The Rumor Come Out: Does LuigiBlood is Trans?

I like to emulate super nintendo games
my favorite program to use is called zsnes
I played mario and zelda on it, and it just worked

>>154076507
cool

>>154075967

Doesn't matter, the work of writing an accuracy-focused emulator invariably turns them all trap or gay.

The data speaks for itself.

How up to date is bsnes libretro?
It's listed as v.94 but is still actively developed, is it missing much compared to standalone?

>>154077225
Nah, there really hasn't been any emulation core changes to bsnes for a long time, just a bunch of refactoring code due to NIH syndrome, and remaking frontend 20 times for no reason.

>>154077225
afaik higan hasn't done anything to snes core emulation since then

>>154077507

byuu seriously needs some prime boypucci. Guarantee that'd chill him the hell out.

>>154075967
Can you grammar?

>>154010408
>>154034493
>>154072627
Never figured out why redeleting the settings and even trying the portable mode didn't work but I found out a way for it to reask the question. Using swissgc and forcing NTSC mode will make the game ask the question again.

>>154076507
The music probably sounded a bit off though.

>>154077512

Changelogs since 094:

fixed SNES SA-1 IRQ regression (fixes Super Mario RPG level-up screen)
new scheduler for all emulator cores (precision of 2^-127)
icarus database adds nine new SNES games
added Input/Frequency to settings file (allows simulation of latency)

SFC: 8% speedup over the previous release thanks to PPU optimizations
SFC: fixed nasty DB address wrapping regression from v099
SFC: USART developer controller removed; superseded by 21fx
SFC: Super Multitap option removed from controller port 1; ports renamed 2-5
SFC: hidden option to experiment with 128KB VRAM (strictly for novelty)

SFC: balanced profile removed
SFC: performance profile removed
SFC: expansion port devices can now be changed during gameplay (atlhough you shouldn't)
SFC: fixed bug in SharpRTC leap year calculations
SFC: emulated new research findings for the S-DD1 coprocessor
SFC: fixed CPU emulation-mode wrapping bug with pei, [dp], [dp]+y instructions [AWJ]
SFC: fixed Super Game Boy bug that caused the bottom tile-row to flicker in games

SNES: fixed manifest for Star Ocean
SNES: fixed manifest for Rockman X2,X3

SFC: added MSU1 audio resume support
SFC: added new expansion port device (eBoot); simulation of SNES-Boot hardware
SFC: expansion port device can now be selected from system menu
SFC: updated handling of open bus (thanks to Exophase for the design idea)
SFC: "BS-X Satellaview" library folder renamed to "BS Memory"

higan 095:
...
There are also several improvements to SNES emulation. Most significantly is support for mid-scanline changes to the background mode in the accuracy profile.

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is there an emulator that forces the native resolution upon entering fullscreen? Really want to see what it looks like on my CRT.

How does the Mednafen dev do it? How does he make a basically perfect Sega Saturn emulator after years and years of ones that were trash? He's like a savant or something.

>>154085160
Definitely a savant considering she can't even make a GUI to save her life.

>>154085553
Why would she make something he doesn't need?

>>154085553
I feel the GUI side of things is saved pretty well by the cores being used in libretro. The Virtual Boy libretro core is better then Mednafen's standalone VB core cause of how you can completely turn off the 3D look and make it black and white.

>>154065945
meant to say isn't optimized

>>154085160
>How does he make a basically perfect Sega Saturn emulator
Where did you hear this shit?
Currently it has worse compatibility than SSF. Faggots here can meme it all they want but it is still in active development.

>>154086421
>Currently it has worse compatibility than SSF
Proof?

>>154086421
Every game I've tried has worked totally fine.

>>154085713
All humans need GUIs. No one uses DOS or CLI-only Linux anymore.

>>154087118
Just drag-dropping the rom/cue onto the exe is fine. It's no hassle.

>>154087161
So you enjoy controlling games using KBM.

>>154086605
>does not run any PAL game
>even the most popular titles(like panzer dragoon and castlevania) have various graphical glitches

>>154087118
What makes you think the dev is human?

>>154087325
It's not like there's an in-emulator help menu and a way top configure your controls in-emulator.

>>154087481
>>does not run any PAL game
>Oh noes, I can''t run inferior versions of games.

>>154087605
>>Oh noes, I can''t run inferior versions of games.
Irrelevant.

>>154087605
>It's not like there's an in-emulator help menu and a way top configure your controls in-emulator.
And how do you access that?

>>154087605
>>Oh noes, I can''t run inferior versions of games.
If that was a concern then you wouldn't be emulating Saturn in the first place

>>154088414
F1

>>154088517
How am I supposed to know that without a GUI to tell me? ;^)

>>154088642
The GUI doesn't tell you hotkeys in most emulator (or at-least not all of them), that's the in the docs.

You're also supposed to know that F1 is often used in program without WIMP GUI for menus or help screens.

>>154088791
What does the pop up interface look like when you hit F1 in mednafen? I'm really curious since seemingly no one ever uses it here and just uses RA instead

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>>154089869

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>>154090040
Just as unusable as I'd expect.

>>154090946
>"It's not WIMP I can't use it"
Nah you're just retarded.

>>154091113
Still the worst interface ever.

>>154091181
Explain to us how it is bad without sayin "It's not the same as that other program"

>>154091113
RA is more usable, as is PPSSPP. It's just poorly designed because recaptcha is lazy when it comes to usability.

>>154091368
You have to type hotkeys rather than being able to click on options.

>>154091113
Lmao what a retard

>>154092196
RA has a learning curve (not that' it's even hard to use if you actually pay attention) and way more things you can do, mednafen tells you everything you can do and how you can do it on one screen, most of what's not doable via hotkeys you basically never touch or even need to.

>>154092268
>You have to type hotkeys
Even on WIMP programs you're gonna end up using hotkeys over the mouse because it's faster, you also only have to do one thing ever and that's map your controls otherwise you just use your mouse to drag and drop whatever game you wanna play on the main executable.

>>154092306
>"I can't follow simple instructions but you're the retard"
Go fellate a shotgun.

>>154092596
>Even on WIMP programs you're gonna end up using hotkeys over the mouse because it's faster,
That is what you will end up using for many things eventually but the click to poot helps ease users into the program.

>>154092596
there is no helping you bud.
Holy shit I still can believe people can be this dense

>>154093001
>Holy shit I still can believe people can be this dense
>can't follow simple instructions
>calls people dense

>>154092596
>RA has a learning curve (not that' it's even hard to use if you actually pay attention) and way more things you can do, mednafen tells you everything you can do and how you can do it on one screen
You don't understand "usability." It doesn't matter if it tells you everything you can do on a single screen. That is only one aspect of usability. The option to do things in multiple, more comfortable ways for the user is also an aspect. So is not having to remember a list of commands to enter to do what you want to do with the program even if they all fit on one screen. RA has these usability concerns addressed; mednafen does not.

>>154091368
I think an emulator needs to have a minimal interface that at least works for most of the things an end user would end up configure (key mapping & loading a game is the bare minimum).

An interface that only works with combinations of keys is destined to be the worst. Unfortunately, we're not all as intelligent as most people using emulators. Which is why it is a shit interface, it's only meant for us, and even then, it's doing it very badly.

I tried Virtual Boy emulation of mednafen: It took me a while to understand how the key mapping worked. It's not really intuitive. I eventually got it soon after but for me this says a lot, if I had a bit of a hard time with something as trivial as key mapping, something is really wrong.

>>154093553
>You don't understand "usability."
>RA has these usability concerns addressed
I don't think you understand usability any better than I do then.

>>154094463
>It took me a while to understand how the key mapping worked
How?
I refuse to believe someone like you who could easily do things I wouldn't even begin to understand would have trouble figuring out something that took me 15 seconds to figure out.

>>154095032
Dude, I had a hard time figuring out how to set the next key until I found out I had to press the same key again.

Still took me seconds, but since this is not intuitive I didn't understand it right away because it's just fucking text at the bottom of the screen, and that's a problem to me.

If a help window can be made at the middle of the screen, that should be used instead of having shit text at the bottom.

>>154095170
In fact perhaps I'm not that clear about it: I think 15 seconds is too much to figure out something that should be understood in a much shorter time.

>>154095032
>I don't think you understand usability any better than I do then.
I said it had those addressed--which mednafen does not, not that it was flawless in all areas of usability.

>>154095337
>I think 15 seconds is too much to figure out something that should be understood in a much shorter time.
Going from "How do I do X" to "I know how to do X" in 15 seconds is pretty short to be honest, and unless you do shit like a configuration wizard or automatic mapping (which kinda sidesteps the problem by providing a one size fits all solution but that's another problem) that's about how much time you're gonna spend figuring it out on most emulators.

>>154095690
>I said it had those addressed
My bad I thought that saying an issue was addressed meant it was resolved not that it was "starting to be dealt with" like a quick search on the freedictionnary seems to indicate to indicate to me not a native english speaker etc.

>>154096384
Most emulators does things the same way. Usually you figure out one emulator and you can deal with the others pretty easily. But that doesn't work with Mednafen that much.

>mednafen
>nice docs that take 5 minutes to look over and tell you everything you'll ever need to know about how to use it

>meanwhile I still don't know what the fuck many of the settings in PCSXR/PJ64 are even supposed to do

I think Mednafen is great just the way it is.

>>154096708
You're a book learner. Most people are experiential learners. Experiential learners do better with PCSXR/PJ64 style since they just set an option, go in game and see what changed.

You prefer reading a doc to tell you what everything does and then applying that reading.

I'm trying to use PCSX2 for the first time. Is there an optimal set of plugins I should be using?

>>154097226
Lilypad
SPU2-X
GSdx OGL SSE4.1
Rest is irrelevant.

>>154092596
>Even on WIMP programs you're gonna end up using hotkeys over the mouse because it's faster

I don't

>>154077210
>Doesn't matter, the work of writing an accuracy-focused emulator invariably turns them all trap or gay.

He's a PJ64 dev

>>154075967
Yes

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>>154087605
>What makes you think the dev is human?

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>>154097314
Thank you very much.

Another question, I downloaded this BIOS pack. Do I have to keep switching between all these BIOSs or is one of them the best to use?

>>154097615
Plenty of emulators have function that aren't even accessible otherwise so unless you don't even use those I'm gonna say you're just bullshitting.

>>154097815
I had issues with the HK BIOS, some people had issue with the JP 1.70 BIOS, most people use USA/EU 2.0 and no you don't need to switch (at-least not that I know of)

>>154097972
Alright. Thanks again.

>>154097863
Ok

LuigiBlood is an eceleb now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe-fs1COgr0

>>154097615
Filthy casual please

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>>154099995
wtf

>>154100201
Wait a second

I know this guy

Why do you guys mock devs so much? Talk about biting the hands that feed you...

>>154100550

I don't use PJ64
I don't use mGBA
I don't use mednafen
I don't use Dolphin

Checkmate

I'm a masochist and want to play psp games on my phone. I've got the emulator, but what's the best place for games? I couldn't find anything in the wiki

>>154100550
Because I hate trannies

>>154075967
who the fuck cares

>>154096891
I've never bought this shit. It's always seemed like an excuse used by the barely literate.

>>154100423
Me too mate, where you from?

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I want to run PCSX2 1.4.0 but I have a pirated Windows 7 and get this error when trying to run.

What do?

>>154103943

Install linux

>>154104410
I doubt PCSX2 will run better in a VM.

>>154011717
going from an a3-3300m to a 4690k was the best feeling ever

>>154014520
why does everything jitter/warp around in this webm

>>154100550
I'm one person and literally nothing I say will ever have an affect on projects/products that big. I can call the dev a worthless fuck doing pointless work and it won't change a thing.

>>154096891
>set an option, go in game and see what changed.

The exact issue is that this doesn't usually work.

>>154103943
install the fucking runtime packages you tard

>>154099995

Is "Tony" LuigiBlood?

>>154100550

Devs are either drama queen spazes or "get da money. dollah dollah bill y'all" types.

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>>>/v/351041036

>pgxp causes a shit storm for some reason

>>154107132
>there are people unironically defending ZSNES
>there are people who are saying the jittering is the way it was meant to be played
Literally worse than reddit

>>154107132
I don't know why I still go to /v/

How does one most closely emulate blended dithering in standalone Mednafen?

>>154107132
What settings are being used there?

>>154110261
All the PGXP settings in PCSXR with widescreen enabled.

>>154110369
Are those settings all found when configuring the tweaked pete's plugin or is it elsewhere?

>>154110481
There is a completely separate menu option called PGXP in the configuration drop down menu.

>>154109964

What's blended dithering?

Today I finally got around to installing Dolphin and playing Twilight Princess with an HD texture pack. The last time I used an emulator was over a decade ago to play NES games, feels like an entire world is waiting for me.

Anyone have suggestions for settings or other mods for TP? What about Skyward Sword, is that controller friendly or does it force you to use motion controls?

>>154112914
>What about Skyward Sword, is that controller friendly or does it force you to use motion controls?

Unplayable without motion controls unless you want to spent 30 minutes on a 10 second puzzle

>on a netbook
>read the wiki
>recommended emulator for SNES: higan
>download it
>it gives me less than 20FPS, unbelievable stuttering, unplayable
So is there a joke here that I'm not getting? Does recommended emulator equal shit that requires a Pentagon tier computer to run games that came out a million years ago?
Fucking zSNES never gave me any problems of this kind, and that's a piece of software that's been dormant since a decade ago.

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>>154113813

>emulationg on a netbook of all things

>>154113813
Fuck off /v/

>>154113813
That's because ZSNES is actually the best emulator

>>154113813
Maybe you should've actually read the page instead of being a retard

>>154113985
>any computer
>being unable to handle decades old consoles for 2D games

>>154114356
>implying performance has anything to do with the system
Also a netbook is not a proper computer. A netbook probably can't even modern web browsers.

I'm gonna steal a PS4

>>154114998
but you won't preserve it

>>154119034

I miss turtleposting

>>154119469

Don't we all? Too bad we drove him away.

>>154119459
This is a blue board, anon. Get that gay sex out of here.

>>154119459
Lewd

>>154114595
They're fine for web browsing and stuff with Linux, not for higan though

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>>154112847
See that skyline? OP wants to blend dithered pixels like those into a smooth gradient

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>>154123820

Just use 32bpp then, blending is a bad way to do that with the PSX GPU dithering.

Beetle supports disabling the dithering in the software renderer (although it keeps the internal color depth to 16bpp, so you'll get banding). Alternatively the hw renderer has an option for undithered 32bpp.

>>154113813
If you're on a netbook use SNES9X
higan is a romhacking tool

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>>154125758

Pic related using undithered 32bpp

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>>154125904

And in software, using undithered 16bpp. The banding on the sky is pretty bad.

>>154125792
>higan is a romhacking tool
You're right bsnes ain't for netbooks but take that tripcode and shove it up your ass if you ever feel like spouting retard shit like this again

>>154126579
Higan is a romhacking tool

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here' s the menu implemented for retroinvader's standalone assignments
as an added bonus the override-system allows you to quickly select a compatible core (which will be downloaded automatically as well if you don't have it)
Works with drag'n drop too.

>>154103943
Use a more recent Dev build. 1.4 is over a year old.

>>154126579
chill byuu it's a meme
i actually use higan/bsnes it's cool

Have you guys heard? All GameCube games now run /perfectly/ on dolphin.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/09/07/dolphin-emulator-can-now-play-every-gamecube-game-perfectly/

>The famous Dolphin emulator is now the ultimate and most complete GameCube experience, even more so than the actual console itself! The developers are proud to report that it will now boot up every single game that was released for the GameCube.

>Boot
Shitty news sites. Fuck them.

>>154127826
Ebin

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Just a general kind of question: which kind of gamepad/controller would be best for playing PS2 games?

To be really specific, I'm talking about Predator: Concrete Jungle.

I never really emulated anything before and I never played with a gamepad so I'm completely clueless.

>>154130386
A dualshock 2

>>154130548

Cheers!

>>154113813
If you can't run higan/bsnes then SnesGT is the next best thing and it will run on your toaster.
>>154130386
PS4 controller

bsnes shall be forever remembered as the emulator that set the much needed accuracy benchmark every emulator should reach. I can't believe until this point emudevs only cared about playing popular games instead of completely preserving video game heritage. Thank you, byuu - you have changed emulation for the better.

>>154133148
Yeah ok but where is the PS4 emulator

>>154132147

>PS4 controller

Why the fuck would I waste money on that?

>>154133469
Because it's good
Only downside is no pressure sensitive buttons

>>154133584
He needs a dualshock 2 to get the TRUE experience though

>>154133845
He needs an [NES/SNES/N64/GC/Wii/MD/TG16/2600/5200/PSX/Saturn/DC/Master System] controller to get the TRUE experience

>>154135045
Exactly

https://emulation.miraheze.org/wiki/History_of_emulation#NES
https://tcrf.net/Galaxian_(NES)
Is it possible that the man that created the very first video game emulatlor was a programmer at Namco

>>154133584

I'm going to be playing PS2 games.

How does a PS4 controller make sense for that?

Also, what the hell do I use for DS2/DS3 support on PC? Someone told me, I can't remember who exactly, that MotionJoy was a botnet of some sorts.

>>154113813
>Fucking zSNES never gave me any problems of this kind, and that's a piece of software that's been dormant since a decade ago.
The ultimate irony is that people don't understand why zsnes is still popular. I've never even touched higan desu senpai. Waste of electricity. Any non-chip accurate SNES emu that requires 3+ ghz is garbage.

>>154136002
>How does a PS4 controller make sense for that?
Same layout are you serious
>>154136106
There are no chip accurate SNES emulators fuckfart

>>154136613

>are you serious

I was being quite honest when I said I never used a gamepad or emulated anything before. I never played on a console.

>>154136737
Well you could have looked up what they both look like

>>154136613
>There are no chip accurate SNES emulators fuckfart
the point is, there's no excuse for bsnes requiring 3+ ghz, since it's not even chip accurate.

i think many devs use the "muh clean code" excuse to try and hide the fact that they are unable to write good code in the first place.

Do savestates in RetroArch work on a per core or per rom basis? If I press F4 accidentally will it load my Mega Man X save while playing FF6 and fuck everything up?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/51nyj8/super_mario_world_2_yoshis_island_in_1080p/

This is fucking disgusting

>>154140803
Per ROM. You'll be fine.
You should be making real saves too though.
Also you can undo state loads with retroarch.

>>154133148
And thank him for rom folders. They're the best thing since sliced bread, desu.

Did Simias die? Is mednafen HW dead?

Am I stuck using PGXP for the end of time?

I want dithering, and texture correction in one package.

>>154141152

It's just a shitty smoothing shader. Not even the worst. Are you really that triggered?

>>154142019
He's right about them in terms of preservation and emulation but it's just ass for people who just want to play video games.

>>154141894
Mega Man X uses passwords, save states are great for games like that
Thanks

>>154142202
He was working on pocket station emulation last I heard. I think he said he was on holiday.

>>154142274
True. I had my mind on ff6. Sorry.

>>154142207
>He's right about them in terms of preservation and emulation
No.

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>>154142274

>he doesn't take a screenshot of the passwords and then put them in later

>>154113985
She looks diseased due to the yellowish tint of her skin

>>154142578
speaking of that, i wonder if there is a way to change the names of characters using a save editor or something. i named everybody after me and my friends but i now realize that's super cheesy

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I don't really like this game that much

It's kinda fun though

I'd rather play traditional Picross

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discussion is really low around here

byuu
trannies
project64

ok now talk

here's a screenshot

>>154150293
Elevator Action Returns is one of the only Saturn games that looks interesting that isn't some obscure untralsated JRPG

>>154150443
yeah it's really fun

there are a few saturn games that are good but it's honestly lacking a bit. very solid and unique console though.

sorry about the shitty scanline filter that pic was taken before i switched to easymode

>>154149076
Don't play this on an emulator. Neither DeSmuME nor no$gba properly emulate the wireframe and edge effects this game uses. Either buy it or play it using a flashcard.

>>154151343
Yeah I noticed some graphical weirdness. How badly does it effect the game?

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This is kind of a strange game. It feels kind of low budget, and you're mostly going straight so it feels like it could have been a 2D platformer. It's not bad, but it's probably overrated.

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>>154151615
This is the best picture I can find on Google images of what it looks like on a real system. Notice that every block has white outlines. When you are 'in' the puzzle, you get a wireframe of the part you've made invisible. Also, last I checked the numbers inside the blocks shake like crazy in DeSmuME and no$gba, which doesn't happen on the real thing.

>>154151854
>numbers inside the blocks shake like crazy in DeSmuME
Oh yeah I noticed this. Jittering like a PS1 game. I was thinking that was maybe a DS thing. Good to know. I'm hoping to get a new DS Lite and flashcart soon anyway.

Thread dying going to ask a question I haven't gotten an answer to

How do I patch games without Riivolution so I can play on Dolphin

>>154142867
does anyone actually do this

>>154151801
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w72kj20YNA0

After Rare decided to change Project Dream away from it's pirate theme to Banjo-Kazooie, it originally took on a gameplay style kind of like Crash that was also influenced by it before Rare decided that it was shit and made a game far superior to Crash.

How do I emulate x86? I want to play Windows games on my PC.

>>154151801
...How old are you? Jesus.

Crash is very much a product of its time. It was *fantastic* back at release- looked better than just about any other game out there. The only reason it might feel "low budget" to you is that it's twenty years old- everything in those days felt like that.

If anyone's interested, this is a brilliant, accessible series of articles on Crash's development - fascinating bit of history.

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>>154159253
...which I forgot to attach to the post, because I'm fucking retarded.

http://all-things-andy-gavin.com/2011/02/02/making-crash-bandicoot-part-1/

^That's the first article in the series. Well worth reading.

>>154159253
Not him, but I hated that game even when it was a new release.

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I got RetroArch
Plugged it in to my big screen
Plugged my gamepad in
Scanned all the ROM directories

Now

1)How do I make Retroarch look sexy with all the box art and stuff like I see on those emulator arcade videos? Not that I mind the PSP menu look, though, it's pretty nice

2)I updated the online updater thing with cgl and glsl and such, I have no idea what any of those means but one of them has to have all these famous CRT shaders and cool overlays, which one do I use and how do I use it?

Please and thank you.
Mega Turrican at 1080p makes me just want to watch the intro sequence over and over.

>>154159253
All I know is Crash is a curiosity because it is thus far the only major game I have heard that used Scheme

And that they had to do some creative memory management

>>154159253
Crash was pretty forgettable gameplay-wise even in its day. Visually impressive for a Playstation game and still is, but I couldn't be arsed to waste a CD-R on it.

>>154160104
>And that they had to do some creative memory management
Speaking of which this is one of the reason the romhacking scene for the game is dead despite having all the tools to create custom levels, the levels are so tightly designed in the main game that adding a handful of boxes / enemies can make the game crawl down to unplayable framerates or outright freezes.

>>154160615
>Crash was pretty forgettable gameplay-wise even in its day.
Unless you're talking about just crash 1, nah.

>>154160104
jak also used a custom language similar, but for everything, not just object scripting. it even allowed for inline asm for all the ps2's processors.

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bump

SP says he wants to show that RA/libretro isn't just for emulation and wanted to further move away from it, has he made any progress in that area?

>>154151801
...Crash really isn't the sort of game that benefits from a CRT shader. Jesus.

Related point - why does just about every CRT shader seem to try to emulate what *bad* CRTs used to look like? Half the stuff posted here seems to be doing its utmost to simulate low-end screens from the early 1990s.

Not all CRTs were created equal.

>>154165630
>why does just about every CRT shader seem to try to emulate what *bad* CRTs used to look like

Because a good CRT was one where the scanlines were not noticeable. It was intended to look like a LCD screen. Its usually nostalgia coupled with a dose of delusion that makes people use those awful shaders.

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>>154165831

>>154152037
>>154151854
I've been playing this on 3DS and I noticed the numbers are a bit wobbly. I don't know if it's similar to what you're talking about though.

>>154165831
>Because a good CRT was one where the scanlines were not noticeable.
Trinitrons were good and the scanlines were really noticeable, most other later tube TVs didn't have that though.

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>>154165630
Whats wrong with this?

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When I try and play games on DeSmuMe on the computer I'm using now, the games are extremely laggy and slow. Is it my computer?

>>154167372
Yes.

>>154159980
>box art
just go to the online updater and download thumbnails for whatever systems you want.