/eog/ - EVE Online General

thanks for the new complex fake narrative paradigm kevin

>>153977917
Daily reminder there is no reason to use a moros over a nag

Daily reminder to sage, ignore, and hide the faggot whining about bridges

>>153977750

Thanks for the rundown mate

What do people typically fly for incursions? I can fly Amarr BS with T2 fit but all my other races are still T1.

>>153978167
>What do people typically fly for incursions?
Any battleship with 5 or more midslots. The most popular incursion groups use shield tanks for a number of reasons. One being the fact that you fill your lows with max damage and stuff to run them faster and the fact that shield reps land instantly unlike at the end of a cycle like armor

>oneiros

>>153978167
Google
>warp to me eve
>warp to me
click Warp To Me Incursions Fittings
obviously the better stuff gets in queues faster

>>153978256

Ah got it. I'm actually training caldari atm but I'm only cal BS+cruise 3 :(

>>153978360

Will check that out.

>>153978445
>Ah got it. I'm actually training caldari atm but I'm only cal BS+cruise 3 :(
Remember they take ANY battleship with 5 or more mids, that includes pirate/faction ones like the machariel and vindicator

daily reminder that your post is a narrative or something, and that means you're wrong

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>guardian

>>153978527

I've got 700mill atm so I can afford to set up a BS for it but I really can't go for a pirate/faction until I've made some isk

>>153978617
Well the basic Vindicator fit Warp To Me wants is only like 500m, the ship is only like 400m now or something stupidly cheap. They used to be way more expensive

https://zkillboard.com/kill/55838228/

>>153978617
thats enough to afford a entry nightmare, if amarr is all you can fly, you don't need the caldari part last time I checked
or just buy logi if you have logi V, cheap, fast and near afk

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>cucked out

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>been playing on and off since 2010
>400 hours according to steam plus many more before I had it on steam
>been in some big GF offensives not knowing what the fuck was going on, always missing the timed synced warps
>dont even think i've killed a single hostile enemy ship even though all my time is spent in low-nullspace
>still dont know shit about anything

All the wikis and skillbooks in the game doesnt even explain what the fuck autismal shit I go through to do basic shit in this

Is planetmining a good way to make money still? I used to do it when it was pretty new and made a decent amount of isk

>steam
>skillbook
>planetmining

>>153978703

Don't have minnie skills, but thanks for the suggestion.

>>153978781

Don't have logi V but the nightmare looks good. ~100m cheaper than the others and I could fit that T2 with good bonus from Amarr BS 4.

What are the chances of losing a ship in an incursion? I really am a total noob having been gone for years

>>153978953
>reading
its fine to read some shit here and there but the only way to learn in this game is if you go running straight into the fire and die violently to everything over and over until your fuckups are imprinted into your skull so they are never repeated.

>>153979153
>What are the chances of losing a ship in an incursion?
very low, the most risky aspect is warping to new incursion areas and having suicide ganking russians putting you on their list of shit they want to fuck today.

Also WTM has a insurance thing if you are really paranoid.

>>153979153
https://forums.warptome.net/topic/24-rookie-guide/

Read the guides before torturing an fc, and then being tortured by their awkward sperging.

>>153979343

Okay, sounds like a plan then.

I'll go through the fits for nightmare and see how high I can go on their list in EFT.

>>153979551

Cheers. I'll read through that too

>oneiros

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>guardian

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Please send all Isk to the following Corp:

Stingin Roger

My Nyx fund thanks you in advance.

>not hel

>>153980870
>jump in Hel
>try to get reps
>die

>>153981134
What the fuck are you doing.

>>153981134
not anymore fag

>>153981134
>he doesn't want to kite cynabals on his hel

>>153981220
Apostle is the best triage carrier, if ur going into a super cap fight u wanna be the best.

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>Apostle is the best triage carrier

ITS NOT
A FCUKING
CARRIER

>>153982779
>not using nostalgic terms.
>>153982650
Ask co2 if they would like some more apostles.

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>>153977917
Is there someplace I can see more paintjobs like in OP

I don't actually care much for the game, I'm just interested in palette references.

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>>153982935
DL the game, start free trial. Open the ship tree. You can preview skins from there.

>not yellow master race

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>>153982935
Also if you are outside of EVE, some ships look really fucking weird.

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>EFT says 98k EHP with my skills
>have 93

>>153984074
the fitting window calculates ehp differently, it uses lowest resist rather than average, so it is always lower

>>153984176

So when incursion runners ask for my EHP which figure do I use?

>>153984226
everyone uses the eft/pyfa ehp

>>153984295

Okay thanks m80

>>153984339
Fly safe cmdr o7

>roam null for a while
>flying in a dual rep thorax
>actually get some gud fites
today was ok

>not plate rep

what race should I choose if I like to be a pirate?

>>153985867
Caldari or Minmatar

Pirate or parasite; no difference.

>>153982935
are you one of those autists that has a floor tile fetish?

>>153985168
why plate rep?

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>>153986112
I don't have a floor tile fetish, and I don't love Ohio.

I just like having some reference material for throwing together color combinations on stuff - blue/orange/white, black/gold, white/gold, black/red, etc.

Pic related was a color set I threw together based on Reflection/Ivory Tower in Halo 2/3.

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>>153986634
Here's the reference material

>>153986634
post more of that ass

>>153986817
>>153986634
also here you go
http://www.caldariprimeponyclub.com/
not as good as in-game but it might do the trick
now post more ass

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>>153986817

>>153986975
ugh, I just noticed thats a furry thing
disgusting

>>153987116
Is this what it's like to find out a girl is actually a trap

Anyone have a forum link to the new ship designs?

I want to see what the executioner looks like, but I can't find the discussion thread on them.

>>153987789
It's on sisi

join inri

>>153988083
who's inri?

>>153988204
play hard pray harder

elite pvp nullsec alliance

>>153988204
redditor garbage corp

daily reminder if you fly logi your a cuck

helping your 'friends' as they have all the fun/kill the enemys

>>153988419
>target enemies and press F1
>target allies and press F1
Literally no difference.

>>153988543
no difference between masterbaiting and sex right?
>>153988331
crawl back into your cuckedfromthestart chat wormholer

>>153988775
No need to get so defensive, redditor.

is there like a vg chat on here before i start banging my head against the wall that is eve online?

>>153990408
Just use the in-game help channel

It's full of players and sometimes GM's

>>153990408
/v/ bros is your only chance. Everywhere else people will get super upset when you call them a niggerfaggot and start reporting you and screaming on reddit.

>>153990518
yeah but I don't want to talk to normies

>>153990590
What's wrong with normies???

>>153992002
nothing

I just starred playing. What's a good corporation to join? Is there one for this general?

>>153992513
goon

>>153992687
4chan doesn't have a corp?

>>153992737
4chan has had corps, but we're a disorganized mess and they never last.

Doesn't really fit 4chan t b h.
What does fit 4chan is having players scattered and embedded across dozens of different corps and being able to organize and strike different corporations all at once from the inside with very little organization/planning from here and without even having to reveal you're even connected to 4chan in any way.

>>153993778
Alright so who should I infiltrate?

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Can someone explain to me out of the two armour dreads, the revelation gets the much more useful armour resistance bonus compared to the moros' 5%/level cycle time?

So the capital repair skill gives cycle time, the moros skill gives cycle time, the rigs available are either boost amount or cycle time. Now it needs to be said that when combining capital armour reps with capital flex armour hardener you are burning so much cap so quickly it's hard to keep on top.

Pic related is just sad, 50% more cost for less versatility, -66% lower cap life, fitting TC on moros is pointless.

Which newbie corp is the best, AND willing to take alpha clone accounts?

Is Eve University still good? How is Pandemic Horde and Dreddit?

Haven't played in years and need guidance.

>>153999892
Horde your just another dude
Eve Uni might be alright
Dreddit is like shitty reddit autism.

>was always interested in the game
>finally going f2p
>check out the wikis and tutorials
holy shit, I'm either going to love this game or hate it.

If I ever plex my account, I'll try being a market jew that can fly cloaked ships. I think I can just enjoy playing the alpha clones though.

>implying you're going to be a succesful amrket jew with 0 capital and while trying to compete with hundreds of market bots

>>153996406
maybe fit 1 ancillary rather than 2 non ancillary

I don't really do caps, but in real pvp, non-ancil reps are pretty shitty

maybe do plate rep

>fitting tc on moros is pointless

why

Lost my safe ratting space with sort dragon having a rage, don't wanna go back to incursions. What do

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>amrket

>>154003927
Eat shit
t. caleb

>>153996406
Your picture describes it perfectly

The Rev can out tank the moros in every field. If the moros actually had the rep amount bonus it should have then it'd be winning but it's not.

Basically the nag is a moros but with the same paper dps, more tank, more range and selectable damage via capless guns means it actually does more damage

>>154003563
Capital armour ancillary aren't as useful because of the time scales that capitals operate on. There is a reason you get a 5min siege timer. Maybe some kind of rev fit would use an anc repper but for a moros I just can't see a case for them. Anc reppers on carriers might be a thing too but then carriers should be stayin within rep range of FAX anyway.

At capital levels the performance of standard reppers is ok, the subcap reppers of both armour and shield are completely broken and need an overhaul.

>>154003563
>>fitting tc on moros is pointless
The range is so short on blasters the tracking computer gives it something like 5km while on a Rev it gives something like 15 and more so on the nag where it gives like 6km regardless

The moros has no advantages over the nag at all

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>>153996406

Phoenix master race

>>154006281
it's the same % increase

>>154006553
the main thing about this fit vs the moros fit is that your anc boosters are burning 3200 boosters every cycle for a given amount of reps, the enduring armour booster burns 1800gj per cycle. Considering how much you boost you risk overboosting if you double up or boost with too much remaining hp, and you've burnt 44% more of a 3200gj booster than the moros did.

Now if you say.. come in to a situation where you're taking 45k dps and you need that much boosting to begin with sure go for it.. but then you'll probably run out of boosters and die like a bitch in your offrep rearming period.

>>154006240
I think they'd be fine if the moros had a proper rep bonus instead of duration

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>>154007431

Obviously it depends on the situation. For a smaller fight where you actually expect to survive, you could go with something like this which reps ~5k/s more than the moros for long enough to come out of siege.

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>only uses Velator
>super ISK positive

>killboards
absolute cancer

If we didn't have that shit more people would be willing to undock and embarass themselves.

>>154008439

He's killing shuttles and unfit rookie ships. I can't imagine a bigger waste of time.

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>>154009793
Hm?

>>154008535
Zkillboard has been around since api access was implemented it's never been an issue so fuck off with this unfounded meme

>>154007289

Yes I know that, it's the same 15% increase in optimal and 30% increase in falloff but 5km isn't going to somehow make the difference.

15km on a Rev is way better than a dinky 5km on a moros

>>154010024
you could just say the moros has less range than the rev, rather than trying to say it benefits less from range improvements, which it doesn't

>>154009863

In order:

- only prop and stabs
- explorer
- no modules
- no weapons
- actual combat fit ship (but its a bomber with torps)
- 2 t1 mining lasers and no other modules
- no weapons
- torp bomber
- explorer
- explorer
- explorer

>>154010206
15km is better than 5km

Its the same way putting Corelli X type hardener on an avatar jumps the tank by some couple hundred thousand dollars ehp over a types

That extra 2% makes an enormous jump in tank because the starting values are already so high. You have to look at the resultant rather than the percentage in qurstion

>>154010353
no, you look at the percentage. if your avatar has 5% more armour ehp than an erebus before fitting the hardener, it will have 5% more afterwards also

>>154010440
If I have 1000 armor hit points and I add 5% to it I get 1050 for a total of 50 extra hit points, not a whole lot

But if I put that same 5% modifier on something with 1000000 hit points that comes to 1050000 for a total of 50k extra hit points which is a huge difference that'll allow you to tank so much longer in this linear example.

This is why people splurge on titans and supers for the highest end gear they can find because that extra hundred thousand hit points buys them that much more time sitting on field or tanking that extra dps. It matters more on titans because the initial starting numbers are higher to begin with

It's why people don't pimp fit their dinky cruisers and frigs with X type shit because it's not practical for the benefit

>>154010903
>huge difference

no it's still 5%

the reason people splurge on expensive ships is because they're expensive

>>154011036
Holy fuck you're thick, keep focusing on the percentage and not the resultant

Because according to you 50 ehp or 50000 ehp is apparently the same tank increase in survivability

>>154011092
5%

>>154011154
50000>50

>>154011154
>I didn't take linear algebra: the post

>>154011036

Ok genius. Lets say you're fitting a frigate (50 powergrid), and a cruiser (1000 powergrid). Both fits need extra powergrid.

You can choose to either fit a micro auxiliary power core (+12 PG) or a reactor control unit (+15% PG). Assuming you want the most extra PG possible, which do you choose for the frigate, and which for the cruiser?

>this is what autism looks like gents

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>>154009863
>covert ops with cloak and mwd
>somehow a velator tackles them on a gate

How bad can you possibly be?

>>154011473

I imagine he anchors a bubble and only kills the ones he manages to decloak while they're burning out of the bubble.

>>154011419
I know right, these guys are fucking retarded

>>154011414
what relevance does this have

>>154011231
it's about the value of the ship. more expensive modules are less cost efficient, but when you combine their cost with the ship, they become less bad as the ships you fit them to become more expensive. fitting a faction damage mod to a battleship isn't somehow more beneficial than fitting it to a frigate, it's just a much larger % increase in cost for the frigate that it's stupidly inefficient by comparison

>>154011593
Turns out I'm the bad one then.

>>154009863
You can do the same on a Heron, bait every ceptor in the game to scram you and suddenly you can outank him and slowly plink him away, unless he's got experience on dealing with bait herons he will never guess it.

Boom, 99.8% efficiency flying a sub 1mil ship.

>Maow maow

>>154011676

>what relevance does this have

I'm trying to illustrate that a percentage increase in a stat doesn't always give the same benefit, because it depends on the base value.

In my example, a 15% increase in PG on a frigate is 7.5MW, whereas on a cruiser is 150MW. The reason people use micro anciliary power cores on frigates is because 12PG you get is more than 15%.

In the same way, a 15% optimal bonus on a long range weapon system gives you a greater numerical increase in range than the same bonus on a short range weapon system.

>>154011676
>this is retarded because I don't understand simple linear algebra

>>154010292
>Wah only properly fitted pvp ships count
You're just mad he's styling in a fucking velator while you have to run in t2 fitted cruisers to be even relevant.

>>154012389

Killing ships that can't fight back doesn't demonstrate any skill, it just shows that he's willing to spend vast amounts of his time waiting for unfit ships to jump into his bubble.

Anyone with enough spare time could do this.

>>154012612
>t. afk miner in a cargo rigged retreiver getting ganked in highsec
It's alright anon we know you're bad at the game.

>>154012332
it's 12 plus skills and implants btw

>it depends on the base value

you or whoever way back were saying "well this has longer range, which also means it benefits more from a tracking computer". it's only the base values that matter

>>154012612
Who cares it's his time.
At least he's undocking, done of you faggots are afraid to undock on an empty pod.

>>154012678
>>154012819

>projecting this hard

>>154012818
Right so because the revs lasers have such stupidly high base range it gets a huge jump in range because of a tracking computer. Meanwhile the moros blasters are so short using a tracking computer gives the moros barely any range extra

>>154013031
That does not mean what you think it means.

>>154013046
yes, long range things have more range than short range things

if you are in PL you are human garbage and I hope you die irl

if you are in NC/goons/Russians/Darkness you are shit

>>154013228
>He fell for the MBC will kill goons meme and is now a PL killmail farming corp

How would you even get rid of PL.

I mean, if everyone again unites, this time against them, I'm pretty sure PL can still outblob everyone in super count.

haven't played in a long time and noticed that the motherships aren't in the ship lists on eve uni wiki. were they removed from the game?

>>154014509
I doubt it. and the best way to deal with PL is not give them any content, enjoy their retarded whining about capital nerfs, and just wait for them to quit

>>154014509
You can't get rid of Pl theyre entirely nomadic

>>154014572
They're called supercarriers now.

>>154014619
Yes but let's assume they take the giant fight.

They have the most experience with supers and they probably can just about match everyone else's combined.

Russians not included of course.

>>154014651
I know that, but they still aren't on the list.

>>154014509
>How would you even get rid of PL.

Never give them content. Dock up, blue ball, let them cry and quit the game. That or destroyable stations in lowsec.

>I mean, if everyone again unites, this time against them, I'm pretty sure PL can still outblob everyone in super count.

Lolno, NC. has more supers than PL. goons as well.

>>154014509
Jokes on you small guy the big boys still stay the same even though they don't own sov.

>>154014821
oh wait, they're under a dropdown for some reason, nevermind.

PL is weak shit unless they have NC backing them up and holding their hand.

I might come back. Then I start thinking of the time I get to waste just sifting into a playable state. Then I don't care about playing again.

METROPOLIS!

>>154016185
>sifting into a playable state

what does this mean? just undock

you'd better not be one of those ultra shitters who does really boring shit in eve, then complains that it's boring

>>154016283
I don't do boring shit I just have infrastructure to manage (so I'm not scrubbing around for isk.)

You know how eve is. everything is a time sink. Last year when I quit The game was so lame I could successfully autopilot around most low and nul and still get to dest.


>wasting time managing jumps..

>>154016454
>You know how eve is

no, this is just a thing you've chosen to do. you could be undocking all the time getting shit done instead

>>154016539
Haha. I am usually undocked. Cloaked in 'a' region. Fucking with margins while I wait for a suicide gank, praise Darius III and his mighty teachings, may XIn Xong Xai come back. and Shai Hallud is a penis.


still even after that. eve=waiting

>oneiros

>>154016821
your playstyle = waiting

>>154016864
okay Gevlon

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>not cloning yourself with your gf

>tfw people unironically think the svipul is gonna be less good after the nerf

>>154018848
Thats what Nerf implies

It's gonna be worse after the performance is reduced

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>>154016185
^_^

>integrated

>meme tanking

>find wormhole
>don't go in it and continue exploring in highsec

Scrub explore heron lyfe

what is the likelihood of finding strat cruisers in wormholes? can't fight them but need a good source of money pretty badly

>>154023246
Everywhere.

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>>154023282

>>154020896
>Tanking rigs with no modules
You're not a frigate

>mining gas for the last 5h

Feels good man.

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>>154023831

>>154024004
I gas mine in my astero.

>oneiros

>>154020896
Garbo fit

Use blasters in scram range, not long range rails

>>154020896
At first I thought this was for an alpha clone

Then I noticed the T2 drones, meaning this is supposed to be a serious fit.

O i am laffin

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gaming/2016/09/eve-online-propaganda-machine-imperium-mbc/

>>154022797
>Go in
>Start scanning down sites
>Gas site, gas site, combat site, gas site, wormhole, gas site, combat site

>>154025025
Gallente can use t2 light drones on alpha clones

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Anyone want some blow for skill injectors? I can't do waiting anymore

Just need another hit of that SP

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>best battleship
>best missiles

>>154030570
Funny looking barghest

What if bombers could fit cruises?

What if carriers could assign their fighters to other players?

>>154031575
That was removed.

>>154031739
Skynet never again,

>>154030570
Raven has no IGC Victory.
checkmate ravenfags
Typhoon wins everytime

>>154031575
>be me not you
>dark time in my eve history
>be a nullbear newfag in karmafleet
>AUTZ
>everyone from all over goons in Dominixes bashing structure
>swearing everywhere
>tactically flying condor
>only person in a frigate
>no idea what the fuck is happening
>"we might get dropped by NC"
>"put drones on the fast tackle"
>literally who?
>"anon, mate, you have drones, make sure you put them on anything that decloaks"
>"mate, anon do you have a mic?"
>y-yes... t..t-hanks
>bomber decloaks and lights cyno right on top of us
>"ANOOOOONNNNNNN TACKLE THE NEMESIS"
>fuck yes, time to shine
>forget I had my celestis karmafleet friend targeted for whatever reason
>shoot and point celestis
>celestis explodes violently
>ANOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN GET THE NEMESISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>nemesis finally dies, nothing comes through
>10+- minutes later bashing structure nobody has said anything
>"hey who's wreck is that?"
>EXIT PROCESS MUMBLE.exe
>leave fleet
>don't log in for 2 weeks

>>154033114
I don't get it.

>>154033114
>implying goons would care about newbies shooting blues

Should have spoken up, you'd probably have ended up with an extra bil in your newbie wallet

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>barghest

>700mil battleship pirate

>le pricetag argument

>>154034832
>with t1 rigs

>le I'm so rich lol argument

>700m
>rich

>>154035275
thats just the hull m8
https://www.eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=33820
I'd rather buy 2 machs

it's a lot for a ship you have no idea how to fly

>>154035548
And I bet you'd fit that with t1 rigs too.

>>154035701
why would I do that?
I've got 3 bil digit wallet.
I would still rather fly another equally fun pirate battleship for half the cost

>it's cost effective because I'm rich xd

>>154035559
https://zkillboard.com/kill/54317568/

>>154035824
>he things 3bil is rich

I have ten times that and I don't consider myself spacerich

>>154035935
>3 bil digit
108b

>>154036176
That isn't now the english language works, m8.

And that's still not spacerich. That's like one titan.

Welp, I just send 1500 words of gameplay suggestions to CCP.

Do you people think they will listen?

>>154035934
What's the matter? Is that fit too deep for you?

>smugging about how much time you wasted grinding

>>154036269
No.

How many times did you type 'remove SP' anyway dror?

>he thinks grind is the only way to make money

>>154036245
when did I ever said I was spacerich
thats a word you used

>he likes to pretend his hundreds of trillions or whatever isn't inherently a waste of time even though he doesn't spend it

>>154036497
When you were smugposting after complaining about the price of a ship you could lose and replace a hundred times over.

>mad jelly poors

>>154036608
>smugposting
that was again, you
I clearly said I'd rather be careful with my money and buy a ship I can replace 200 times instead of one I can replace 100 times and have equal fun

>>154036423

Who is this 'dror' you speak off? (though the one you call dror is not incorrect).

>>154028742
>not forgotten perimeter habitation coils all day

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>Who is this 'dror'

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Someone begins to target paint you, how fucked are you?

>>154040509
Not very fucked because I'm not webbed, scrammed or anything.

Daily reminder TP's are the worst EWAR

>>154040617
daily reminder that it's not comparable at all

ITT autism

>ok Anon grab an arazu or celestis we'll need those damps
>anon I said damps, not bellicose
>you need me to apply better
>anon we have no problem applying, we need to negate their enemy forces onto us
>muh TP
>just get a fucking damp ship or grab another DPS or logi bote
>MUH TP
>anon don't join my fleet

>guys we can't apply damage that well, where's our tp v bellicose

>fc I jammed the primary xd

>>154041182
Bad jammer pilot, show be jamming logi and other support ships, not the primary

>guys I jammed a support ship are we applying damage yet

this chatter is reminding me that to play eve I need to play teamspeak and api online.
please register right fucking now! for all of our fucking shit, we have about a dozen fucking things you need to check everytime you play. are you ready. bitch

>he doesn't want to bullshit with his bros on TS/Discord/whatever

>>154041595
>guys I jammed the ship that was webbing us
>guys I jammed that bhaalgorn/armageddon
>guys I jammed their FC, he shouldn't be able to broadcast targets
>guys I jammed 2 of the 5 logi, quick hammer them before the jams wear off

>>154041972
>playing with sound

>>154042002
>guys I jammed the bellicose

>guys I jammed myself halp

Where does drone ammo come from?

>>154042162
Same place as your crew's wages and your fedo food

>fedo
>le twitch xDDDD stream donate sub follow gibabays xd

>>154042162
every drone contains a tiny wormhole connected to an ammo factory

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>>154042514

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>tfw still no victory skin for my typhoons

>oneiros

>>154046220
Why do you keep posting this?

>>154046278
It's more fun than playing eve...

>>154046872
Fair point.

SP SHOULD BE REMOVED BECAUSE OF REASONS

>removing SP
>not removing recons

>removing recons

>not removing svipuls

>>154048441
>>154048493
This isn't even bait-taking worthy shit posts, you're just adding to the post counter

>let's remove ship X becuz it pwned my merlin :(

>>154047083
What reasons?

>>154052891
>tfw min spec

>tfw you'll never rule a moon empire and make free t2

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gamma is the thinking man's crystal

>>153984718
>Roaming
>For 'gud' fights
>Not making isk

Why do people do this? Looking for fights is objectively a waste of ISk, which is by xontinuation a waste of time.

Stop doing what I don't like, go make money.

>unironic grindfags

>>154058267

Real men shoot piss beams.

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Noob here

Is this a good Wreathe fit for nullsec transport?

>>154061783
Bubble will fuck you without a prop.

>>154062413
oh shit you're right

didn't even see it moves at 18 m/s

if i replace ashield extender with a 50mn mwd, it only goes up to 114 m/s

this is fucking garbage

>>154063470
Turn off the cloak.

>>154063470
turn off the cloak because it robs you for 90% your speed

>>154063565
>>154063623
Thanks guys, I'm retarded

>>154063746
Theres actually a trick you can do to escape or at least evade your enemies

Basically if you jump into a gate camp, align only towards your intended area, immediately cloak and then immediately hit the button for your MWD. The MWD cancel from the cloak doesn't come for like 2-3 seconds after you activate the cloak so you gain massive speed before it turns off. Before the cloak robs you of all your speed, break the cloak and hit warp, you should still have enough speed to enter warp immediately.

Google "MWD cloak trick"

>>154063961
>frag warp

>>154063961
That's pretty interesting, thanks. I'll look into it more.

Daily reminder the nag is better than the moros in every way

>>154065747
>>154006553
>>153996406
Even the rev is better.

I went through the old rebalance thread on eveo forums and seen that as far back as april when it released people were pointing out how bad the moros would actually be with it's crappy fittings and useless rep time bonus.

it is the Mori' time to be bad

>>154064176
Not him but keep in mind that only works with the T2 improved cloak, the prototype is not enough to do it well.
Also sometimes crashing gate with cloak and mwd is the best choice, specially if they aggress on you and have many dictors

>>154063746
And carry an offline expanded probe launcher, I'm assuming you don't have any scouts.
If you find yourself in a system with a gate that seems suspicious and can't get a d-scan, you can probe the gate and see whats in it, safer than doing the neuting yourself out trick to warp close to gate.

>>154065887
55944455
55953345
55953363
55942267
55941865
https://zkillboard.com/kill/55941039/

As you can see, a trend is forming amongst moros pilots to fit for maximum buffer and completely ignore using armour reppers entirely.

Just my first rupture what kind of missile launchers should I fit?

what

>>154063961
>nullsec transport
>gatecamp
>Somehow slow boating through the bubble/s without getting decloaked
His mwd is going to run out before he reaches the edge of the bubble and then he's going to get decloaked and die horribly unless he burned back to the gate.


The only safe way to transport shit is to have a scout anyway.

>>154067293
none

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>not using the certified memepture

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>Antipharmakon

>>154069662
Is that where we are at now? 6 fitting mods.

>>154069662
Have fun never killing anything with that, then eventually dying when you run out of boosters.

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>>154029702

Is that EvaNova ?

It fucking crashes in like 33% cases I try to update my chars.
Do you have the same problem?

>>154069662
you could just do that with the moa and still have dps to kill stuff while being way tankier

>make a joke memefit
>all the serious autists hop on it and try to analyze it
lmao fucking retarsds

>>154073952
Nobody is analyzing it, were just making fun of you.
Sorry that you think calling someone a retarded faggot constitutes as analyzing.

>we were joking i swear
:^)

>scythe fleet issue
>rlml

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https://zkillboard.com/kill/55934488/

>>154073952
>being this retarded

>>154079402
stay mad :^)

>>154068119
Cloaky haulers are sneaky breeky enough and quick enough to get around most shit

Only time i've ever died in one was when I was half afk and forgot to cloak while warping to a safe in our constantly slav camped HS pipe from cloud ring

I wasn't mad at the time but over time i realized this same group tried the same shit all the time and they were fucking awful. It was posthumously embarassing that I ever died to these vodkasoaked retards

fuckin phoenix compact launchers use the same PG/CPU as meta0 launchers... they're not "compact" at all

Box launchers that fire 40 missiles at once but can only be reloaded in station when.

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>>154082183

So the only way an alpha clone can make isk is to spam incursions? Every other isk generating activity seems highly nerfed.

>>154085427
they can't fly battleships

>siege arty
>dual 1000mm rails
Literally who

>>154085772
it's a conspiracy

>>154085427
>>154085759
It will take months for an alpha clone to plex their account. It's just an unlimited trail account.

I'm sure some will stay with the alpha clone account just to come back to the game so they can hang out with their friend, and maybe contribute to a war effort in a frigate. A few will maybe subscribe during wars to contribute with a more skilled character.

Those already playing will spam alts. These players will most likely have multiple existing subscriptions.

Legitimate new players will leave once they realize how long they have to wait until they have access to what they want to do. Some will spend money to get there, most will not.

Subscription numbers have been declining for three years. This desperation move may help.

>>154085427
>>154086382
You can farm 3/10s in a thrasher

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Daily reminder that golem us superior to raven in every single way

both are shit

f2p isn't going to save this game, is it?

( ._.)

( ;_;)

>>154092341
Probably not

>is willing to trade raven-chan's good looks for a +9999% tank bonus and immunity to all ewar

mfw shitters

and what's with that big jew nose

>>154092341
If anything it's going to accelerate Eve's death.

>>154092732
Nigga I would trade a titan for a +9999% tank bonus and immunity to all ewar

>>154094763
You might see a gross consumption of PLEX. Higher PLEX prices means more PLEX being bought from the store to fund wallet warriors.

>>154095735
I don't see why that would happen.

People who want to try Eve for free have been able to do so for years. And the 21 day trials even had less skill restrictions than the Alpha clones.

If anything I would expect a decline in plex consumed because people's FW characters and other cruiser down pvp'ers don't need to get a sub anymore.

>>154096084
The demand will be driven by people using FW money to pay for subs. It will enable 2-account holders to run 1 for completely free and pocket an active accounts worth of income. Instead of PLEXing 2 accounts or plexing neither.

>>154096084
>FW characters and other cruiser down pvpers don't need to get a sub anymore

yeah if you want to just die over and over

>>154096271
> It will enable 2-account holders to run 1 for completely free

weren't they going to restrict them like trial accounts and not let you log in any other accounts on the same computer

>>154096349
Get yourself a FW bot, run FW while at work. Do this 2x a week.

tfw botters will never biomass irl

>>154096279
T2 modules don't matter nearly as much for a fleet as it does for solo'ing

>>154097274
maybe if you're a shitter and your fleet consists of blobbing soloers

>>154097519
I see you're not familiar with FW at all

Or lowsec in general, really

>>154097583
I am very familiar with your shitty afterburner duels and how being 30% worse than normal will mean you lose all the time

but the same applies to fleets if you aren't just blobbing soloers

When does the free2play clones drop?

>>154097728
November

Allegedly industrial arrays too but they haven't announced shit about it so far.

weren't player built gates supposed to be out already?

>>154098173
Just after walking in stations anon.

the no man's sky general is no more, I have returned to /dog/!

>>154098292
Did they make any fun memes there? I don't want to waste time checking.

>>154098329
A couple. Nothing worth remembering.

I made most of the memes anyway

So now all the returds who bought No man's lie will flood the other space game generals?

Great.

>>154099231
They already did. Hell there's even been been 5+ elite dangerous threads every day on /v/ for the past week.

>>154103159
Elite dangerous and Star citizen posters are aids regardless

>>154085427
>Ignoring the market

Once they get a decent pile of isk (say 50 mil) they can easily invest into the market and double their isk every week easily.

>>154103436
>market trading without accounting and broker relations trained
Yeah that's not going to work very well m8

>>154103702
You will still make money you will just make less money. Besides you can buy in perimeter for 0% tax which will help.

If you find the right things to buy you can have silly profit margins if you're patient.

>>154104118
An alpha will have nowhere near the money to market jew the sort of items that are available on citadels (plex, injectors) nor have the skills for remote trading that make proxy citadels work.

Most margins for other items are incredibly thin that having 3% brokers fees will basically make them unprofitable or not worth your time.

The time spent looking for something with margins, they could be orbiting a beacon in FW and make guaranteed isk.

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>marauders

>>154104708
I imagine that meta modules from rat drops will become cheaper

>>154108862
Why do you imagine that?

The way I see it, alpha's can't fit most T2, so the demand for meta modules will actually increase by a significant margin. I doubt there will be enough increase in meta drops to compensate.

On an unrelated note, alpha clones can fit t2 ecm mods. November will see the rise of griffins online.

>>154109735
Jesus fuck.

Maybe they'll change the requirements for T2 jams to electronic warfare 5.

Probably not because CCP

>>154109735
Oh I am going to jam the FUCK out of some incursion logi

>>154110149
>don't bother fixing ecm or anything ccp, just make it so alpha clones can't have that 5% extra effectiveness from t2 jammers

>>154110489
You're right it probably doesn't even matter.

You can just use a full rack of caldari T1 jammers per basi and still jam with a probability of 95% or more

>>154110721
the t2 jammers are like 1 mil each anyway, it's much more enraging to get btfo by a total garbage low meta fit worth 500k total

>>154110875
Seems like a really cheap way to shut down incursions and maybe make a bit of money on the side if you can nab the loot.

Why aren't more people doing it? I always hear everyone complaining about muh incursion isk being too easy

>>154111072
yeah fucking up incursions sounds hilarious and profitable. definitely would try if I wasn't -10

>>154111072
If you want to fuck with incursions you will see much better results from using a manticore or nemesis to point the logi after someone takes the gate to a tcrc.

>>154111374
Why would you sacrifice a 30 mil ship when you could do it in an ibis with a warp disruptor?

>>154111453
An ibis can't point four logi so it's much less likely to get results. The ships people run incursions with are often blingy as fuck anyway, if you sacrifice a 30 million isk bomber to kill a billion isk machariel you're still 97% efficient.

>>154111862
A kestrel then

It must be about cloak reactivation delay or there would be 0 reason to use a bomber.

But if you do it once or twice you've burned your character as an incursion molester anyways so they will be wary with you in local.

>>154112315
A kestrel works better than an ibis, but a kestrel can't move between gates cloaked, and it can't decloak after the first player takes the gate and start pointing logi with no targeting delay.

Sure they will be wary of you in local, but what are they going to do? Stop making 150 million an hour each for 40 people until you leave? Move to another focus?

>>154112520
Assuming you just want to annoy them and stop them from running incursions, would it not be easiest to just sit the kestrel there on the gate, in plain view for all to see? Don't even have to suicide gank after the first few times.

I may actually try this on a trial account right now.

>>154112720
Incursion runners take gates with non purples sitting there all the time, they're usually assumed to be scouts.

I thought you wanted to make money from this anyway, or at least cost some people their ships.

>>154113419
Not necessarily. Pissing off a 40 man autist fleet for no effort is good enough for me.

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daily

Oh man I found the best new profession.

Start a trial account, stream on twitch saying you're a new player just starting. If you stream at the right times you get a fucking ton of money.

Once the trial is done/the money stops being donated, make a new twitch account and trial account, repeat the process.

>>154117269
And how much did you make exactly?

>>154117437
Made about 380m two days ago.

Provibloc and VOLT vs. Lumpy. PL and NC vs Goons happening right now in Catch

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>lumpy

>reddit alliances

>1200 local

>2000 local, literally all of EVE is here except the fuckheads in this thread

lol pandemic horde fuckwits just got massacred by provi bomb wing, a whole fucking fleet

>>154115618
>shoot slicer in middle
>there is two slicers now