Paragon General #3

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Having fun with yourself anon? What's this like the third thread of Paragon you tried to get going today?
Just play Smite instead.

>>153980329
but paragon is just a better version of smite

>>153983351
bump!

I'd enjoy this game more if the ui wasn't so retarded and confusing.

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Post favorite decks

>>153990446
lol

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>>153990446
>that everything
What are you running anon, I need this deck.

Also, how the fuck do you make Narbash work? His heal is fucking atrocious, his speed buff is ok at best, and he's got a ranged stun. Besides his ult, he doesn't really have anything going for him. What's a good deck for him, full mana regen? Full tank, with the occasional heals? I just don't know.

>>153993057
He's only good in super coordinated teams, otherwise he's trash tier. His ult is very good, no idea how to build him but max stun

>>153993598
>he's trash tier
but he's finally the orc bard that I've always wanted to be in a video game. It was finally time, I was just so happy.

I should look up a tier list for this shitshow, but I see a lot of Sev, Grox, Gadget, and Murial so I'm guessing they're pretty good.

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>>153993057
>>153993057


I wasn't using my "Sev hates everyone" deck this game, but I morely stick to 50 / 50 / 0 in any melee decks

I would've done so much better if THE FUCKING MURDOC AND KALLARI DIDNT KEEP STEALING EVERY FUCKING THING

>>153994345
>Everyone on blue is 60/60
>Narbash is 48 and 10 deaths
God damnit man.

I need to get around to building a deck for everyone. I'm only level 12, just played a bot match as everyone and not sure where to go from here.

I guess just do the moba thing. Pick a hero you like, drive that bitch to 10 in PvP. Might be Gadget, she feels really strong.

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>>153993057

Here is THAT build if you wanna know.

I wouldn't recommend it. I did it for shits and giggles, You won't survive for shit in a team fight. Sev should however have enough initial stats on his tankiness to survive a lot though.

But damned if it doesn't feel good to crush a Khaimera who jumped you thinking he was good shit

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tfw desperately trying to make Narbash work ... not impressed
>inb4 ded game, ded thread.

>>153994602
>Severog, the walking armory, murders everyone tonight on the rift
I feel like Sev gets enough power just from Siphon stacks to deal enough damage and be a threat, but going full damage on tanks is a guilty pleasure of mine from other moba's.

>>153994712
>sending the guy with no damage and support abilities alone
>probably against Grim or Murdock
It's like he enjoys playing the game in black and white. Good thing the entire enemy team has 10+ deaths, or that woulda been a wash.

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>>153995070
I just want his heal to be a little more powerful, or maybe cost less or fucking something.

His movement speed is worthless just because of how small an area it affects, and its only 160 at max. It it was huge, then he's be a credible threat, something to maybe consider focusing down at some point if you can get around to it or whatever. As it stands he gets one stun off and maybe his ult, and then he's just an autoattacker until his entire team is dead.

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>>153995263
Tried him stacked with hp regen cards... and aside from the fact that the hp regen gives him sustain, he's still pretty shitty. Why would someone choose him over other heroes that do his job better. Even Grux can outperform half of the characters in their respected roles.

>>153995263
I haven't looked at it but maybe his heal scales with energy? I doubt it but I agree, needs a sliiiight buff on the healing side. Too much and he would be too broken, he can't be like Lucio level of healing

>>153995459
>stacking heal regen gives him sustain, but no tank or mana
>stacking mana lets him use his useless heal for longer
>stacking mana regen lets him spam his useless heal and movement speed all the time forever
>stacking defensive stats make him tough to take out, but why would you bother targeting his useless ass
You just can't win with building Narbash. I fucking love his kit, but holy shit he just has nothing going for it.

>>153995820
It doesn't scale. Max rank is 16 hps, which is pretty good except every hero has several thousand health, and you run oom in seconds.

Its honestly better to just save your mana for the tiny speed buff and stack cooldown reduction, throwing stuns out willy nilly.

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>>153995820
His healing could've been fine combined with the circlet if it didn't take shit load of mana just to heal for at least 180 hp ( it can easily burn uo to 1000+ mana ) . It's fucking retarded and pretty much useless. 2 upgraded hp regen cards can give you a better result than the skill at max lvl.

>>153995087
>>153995087

Honestly, I don't even use Sev's Siphon to help farm. I use it as an autoattack filler. [spoile]Or to be a dirty bottom feeder and KS since it's damage is instant[/spoiler] I'll use it to last hit jungle minions when Im working my way back to base, but beyond that, It feels like it costs too much mana for as little as the stacks give you.

And I dont rememebr what Narbash was doing that game. I was in left lane dicking around with Grim and bonking enemy minions. We even stopped attacking each other and just stood side by side together while we waiting for last hits.

The only thing I do remember is seeing Narbash alone in mid the times I looked/ganked there, I don't remember what he was doing most of the time.

I did gank mid once and where three of my allies where attacking Khaimera, I just waltzed up and ulted the Khai into the turret where it skeet shot him out the air. Best kill I've gotten so far.

btw, how the fuck are you supposed to get last hits in lane if you're not ranged carry or some shitty dmg dealer .. like some shitty melee support for example ...
>inb4 there's someone else jungling.

>>153996343
get good at dodging autos and spells / hiding behind minions while last hitting.

i have no problem hitting most last hits as melle support. just takes practice but i did play league at diamond rank for 3 years so maybe it's built into my autism at this point

>>153996075
>someone walks into my lane at 20 health
>afk's next to me expecting to get all their health back
>burn 100% of my mana trying to heal him
>get accused of not leveling my heal
I'm trying man. Stop getting hit with fucking everything while I line up my stuns.

>>153996160
>he doesn't use Siphon to last hit every single champion
>oh shit sorry guys, I just keep accidentally stealing every kill how does this keep happening
His fucking knockback is just pure joy though. Slamming someone into turret radius and getting them obliterated in 2 shots is something everyone should experience at least once.

>>153996343
If its a quiet lane I can get some hits in by just measuring how much health the hits do and getting lucky. Otherwise, try and bait the enemy ranged douchebag into hitting you, and then losing all his health thanks to minion aggro. Those minions hit hard, especially early on.

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>>153996667
>>153996667

>Burning all your mana on the first wave.
What the fuck, did you get 5 fountain spikes in your first pack of cards?

And I only Skeet shot the Khaimera one time, ok? I didnt take anything from anyone, it was a team fight, up for grabs.

>>153996343
Get a damage card first and overload that bitch with 3 Major strikes.

>>153997154
Been trying Empyrean Mask, its a pretty good mid game card

patch out in 8 hours hype

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>>153993964

>Tank Gadget

>>153997615
>>153997615

But Empyrean mask is a Order card, how're you getting it on a growth/corruption character?

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>>153998420
Mean too make that its own post, sorry

Muriel SURE is fun

today:
>people draft dodging because someone picked kallari thinking patch is already out

tomorrow:
>people draft dodging because someone else picked kallari

>>154000658
Kek

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thred not ded edition!!

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>>153997154
some people recommend atk.spd over dmg.

bamp.

when da fak dis patch droppin familias?

>>154010536
The game client said it's in the middle of rolling out as we speak, and to report any matchmaking fuckups to support so you don't get penalized.

>>154010583

Patch is OUT

So what do we think of the card changes?

I think Satori Cloak is pretty incredible especially on support-y melee heroes like Steel, probably Greystone as well

Rocket Spike/Firepiercer seem OK, would've liked the duration to be a bit longer...

Seems Scorpion Plate/Splinterbark Vest actually shred 1 armor's point worth (22) and NOT a penetration point (16), which makes them slightly less bad than I was expecting (not great, though)

Scourging Tails - nice

Plasma Channel - apparently it's 32 armor shredded for each enemy hero, which makes it not useless like the patch notes would say? (so, in a teamfight, it could be like 128+ shred)

this game got a lot prettier/better HOLY FUCK

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>>154006216
>>154006216

>I'd rather hit many times for no damage than hit once and be done.
Why?

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Based Epic

if anyone skipped out on this game due to FPS issues in the past now might be the time to give it another go. I went from like 60-70 to solid 120... crazy

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bamp

I just launched the game for the first time and I can't get over how fucking good this Menu theme music is holy shit.

Anyway I saw in the latest patch they added tutorial videos I think? Where can I find em?

I came here to shitpost about how I wish they were working on Unreal Tournament instead of this

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>Tonight... Is Sevarog TOO strong? More at 11.
Seriously though, Rangers are too weak early game. All we did this game was roam and gank like mad fucks.

I had less than 200 hp and that TB (3/4ths hp) still couldn't duel me and I killed him.

>>154018967
not going to play UT until they replace the shitty sniper model.

>>154018865
This is, what, the third main menu theme? It's not bad.

>>154018967
The UT team and the Paragon team are two different teams. That shitpost doesn't work.

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inb4 ded thread ... I know a fucking match takes up to 40+ minutes but you can still bump the shit out of the thread from time to time.

>>154023253
What do you think Epic will do next to cut the game down closer to that mythical 30-minute game goal?

So happy to know that all my "actual graphics" shill threads are finally paying off.

>>154023356
Tanks can't push for shit unless you're running Grux or Rampage and clear waves in seconds. Half of the supports are not good at pushing as well. You still need to rely on the rest of the team. Not seeing it happening soon tho.

>>154023547
Don't fucking take credit for a general existing, you schlub. It's bad form.

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>>154023660

Don't be upset. I'm just glad peeps are finally giving this game the attention it deserves.

Anyway, here's some inspiring words from our Father Steve Superville. He made Paragon entirely by himself, but he couldn't have done it without his wife and God.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WxlshKjWgK4

>>154024327
>>154024327


Its a recently open beta game. Its going to take some time to attract people here. Its gonan be this slow for a while

LIVE

>>154030861
Bump! Patch day!!

DOUBLE XP WEEK STARTS NOW

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/news/double-xp-event-back-again

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>>154025503
I know they need more people for more feedback and possible sales, but the game isn't ready to be in " open beta " in it's current state of constant changes and lack of direction.
>energy based carries.

>>154031640
Two questions before I think about reinstalling
Is performance better from closed beta
Is balance better from closed beta

>>154032579
yes and yes - feels like it, unless you play against Grux. Make sure your rear is lubed.

Does sparrow work as a tank, I read somewhere that, thats one of her metas build her as a tank

>>154034020
Nice. Do the characters have voice lines or is it still just grunts and moans?
I found Kallari's laughter to be really sexy for some reason.

>>154036090
sadly, still grunts and moans.

the playerbase still consists of braindead retards tho...

When did they add those small character blurbs in the Heroes window?
>Dekker's guilty pleasure is low-budget movies
>TwinBlast may or may not have connections to the in-universe Triads
>Murdock was reprimanded for setting up a Taser trap on a co-worker in the bathroom
>Iggy is convinced he's a dinosaur; Scorch got blackout drunk on Molotovs once
>Gadget is more comfortable around robots than people, is ambivalent on androids
>Sparrow has an arrest record; Greystone personally arrested her once
>Feng Mao ransacked an entire village because he lost his pipe at one point

>>154038423
>Grux has killed everyone who has ever challenged him in his tribe
>The only person he can't legitimately beat is his grandma

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>losing the game to a team with some shitty useless Narbash .. and people rushing Greystone when he's 4 levels above them. Kaimera taking the last hit on heroes destroyed.
Fucking hate this game.

That rampage skin tho

>>154023547
>>154023660


No one may believe me but I am actually the faggot posting all of these, this is actually the sixth general. I just really love the game man and I really want it to catch on.

Can't keep us down edition

>>154039472
At least set up a shorthand for the next thread, like /parag/.

>>153977507
>#3
Don't lie

>>154039998
Will do, if this one hits a reply cap that will be the dream, hopefully Doctor whoever his name is helps keep it alive

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>>154040038
They die at 6 replies, this is the third #3, there were 2 #2's

>>154039190
>>154039190

>Games last an hour because tards cant push objectives.

>>154019057
oh dear god, 3 straight up rangers AND kallari? yeah, that's the most gankable shit of all time

2 rangers should be the max you ever have since you basically need the team protecting them early game. And even then with the relatively low CP/"gold" limit compared to other games they never run away quite as much as they do in dota etc.

Feng must've had a fucking field day

>>154038423
the iggy and scorch lore got a friend and I into like an hour long discussion/argument over which of the 2 is actually iggy and which is scorch

I think we came to a logical conclusion eventually

anyway, the proper name for that hero is "squig" anyway

>>154039472
Thank you based paranon, I tried posting some in /v/ a while back and that went about as well as you'd expect

I see we've got our very own tripfag already too, making progress at lightspeed over here boys

>>154042172
Just like my LoL soloqueue games

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>>154040332
>tfw that was me posting the cow.

On the other hand, If retards at Epic get rid of every single bruiser melee charater - except Gaystone, Cucks and Rampage and Shitmera... nobody will notice... still fucking hate the movement speed ( or the lack of it ), the dmg scaling for shitty melee characters that are tanky as hell, the op minions and the fucking retarded last hit mechanic they have in place making you want to scream and break shit, instead they shit out skins, but hey, they've reworked the jungle and replaced the placeholders with shitty uninspired minions that look like placeholders as well.

>>154044029
i'm not even sure what you'd want the game to be (or why you bother playing it) with a list of gripes like that, jeez

>>154044305
I'm trying the best I can to like it with all the flaws ... sadly, getting raped with the same character every single game
>inb4 git gut
On the other hand, " good job " and every other shitty spammable command makes me sick already ...

I don't like the emphasis the game places on last hits. That was one of the things I loved about SMITE: it wasn't a total loss if you weren't last-hitting minions. In SMITE, you get half the rewards if you don't last-hit; in Paragon, it's fucking 1/5 the reward AND you have to manually pick it up.

Hell, there's an idea for shortening game times: improve the flow of card points by reducing the margin of reward between last hits and non-last hits.

>>154044481
>>154044481

>People spam commands then proceed to not even follow their own commands

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>>154045454
"Defend mid lane!"
"Defend mid lane!"
"Defend mid lane!"

...what? I'm busy jungling at the camps 10 feet away from mid

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wow, never seen this before. it's super old though

>>154046727
then they realized that the attack speed is pretty low and won't match the idea of a gatling gun model, so they booted WIll Smith.

>>154045202
The great divide with card points I've noticed is you have people who know harvesters exist and sloped forehead mongoloid retards who don't. If you have the former on your team you'll be ok, if it's the latter get ready For a 20 minute loss.

>>154046894
Or Its Called A Tier 4 skin which literally changes all assets and they plan on releasing it near the end of the year

>>154048413
he's right though it totally wouldn't fit at all without some kind of ability

in a way I could kind of see the new hero being teased working that way: pistol for autoattack and then an ability lets her whip out that submachine gun and spray bullets for a time

>>154045867
TITLED

got from a game where junglers kept doing that shit, do retards realize that if you jungle the whole purpose it that you're close to a lane or 2 to help gank?

Why do idiots farms ALL game and not help out in team fights at all? you literally get more XP from team fights because heroes are worth way more than jungle minions ever will be

>>154048601
Thats the purpose of a skin though it doesn't have to work mechanically to what convention tells us. Things can look nice to just look nice

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>>154048413
so the gave Eddie Murphy a gatling gun instead of a shotgun so people won't mistake him for Graves, still not a good choice considering his playstyle.
>>154048601
This anon is on the right path..

I still see their art style and overall direction being inconsistent ... stuffing in whatever comes to their mind even if it doesn't match the tone or the environment.

>>154045202
>improve the flow of card points by reducing the margin of reward between last hits and non-last hits.

They widened the margin to increase the disparity in power levels between players, causing the more skilled team to have a stronger advantage and end the match quicker.

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>>154044029
lmao fuck you nigger,

>>154043260
i think this general will slowly become self sustaining, i hope. also jokes on me I'm trip fagging too

I really hope the greater community can look past the "another fucking moba" meme and actually give this game a shot.

Here's to hoping it takes off boys

>>154049219
at this point, it's another fucking moba.

>>154049449

It's the only MOBA with actual graphics and 3D gameplay.

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>>154049104
A Black Sheriff can work Just look

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>Narbash
not running Madspore sash for extra sneaky dmg and Circlet of Health to reducse that shitty heal/s cost of SoMP

remember Narbash is for SUPPORTing your teamates in and OUT of teamfights, use stun to help them get away or initiate attacks, SoMP to slow them and hold them in place while a teamate goes in for the kill, March for a qetaway

you can get kills with him but usually on low health enemies many don't suspect a drumstick to the dome when they run back to tower w/e and try to teleport back home.

Hype list of planned features:

1. In-game cross-platform voice chat.
2. Ansel support.
3. Card crafting
4. Quips

I don't care when they remove travel mode.

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Datamining results, Wukong champion confirmed, because every MOBA game ever needs this fucking monkey diety.

https://www.reddit.com/r/paragon/comments/51gf5v/text_datamining_results_of_v31/

Info about the new hero's abilities, two new hero's and a bunch of other shit.

Also new steel skin in works pic related (tier 3)

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>>154049684
I don't mind the game having a black sheriff skin, it's the gun design that bothers me...

>>154050039
Did they officially announce card crafting? Where?

This is my wishlist:

-A sidebar with the health/ status of your allies. Would simplify the mini game of squinting across the map to watch for your allies health bars to see how a fight is going.

-The ability to use one deck across multiple hero's of the same archetypes.

-Card crafting

-Unique Amber like particle effects on Master skins.

and at some point in the future voice chat/ all chat. If crafting and voice chat are confirmed I'm hype as fuck

>>153978313
>>153978127
>palate swap
>skin

I wish they'd stop doing that, the tier two stuff like >>153977802 and >>153977571 are SKINS though.

>>154050118

my god that steel skin looks AWFUL hahaha what the fuck

>wukong
fucking kill it with fire. put blood and skeletons in the game, fuck china

>tacticia
it's really amazing that epic just stumbled upon this concept and somehow made a good game because it's clear they still have the imagination of a young cliffy b scribbling cartoons about green rabbits (actually, that's more imaginative)

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>>154050317

They've confirmed (as in, used the word "confirmed") card crafting multiple times over.

Voice chat is something they are all "hoping for", including the Man Steve Superville himself, but it hasn't been confirmed. It would make Paragon the first game ever to feature cross-platform voice chat.

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Epic are fucking bad at naming stuff ...
>tfw they're owned by a fucking chinese company that pushes for fucking Wu-kong and other chinese bullshit being included in Paragon.

>>154050596

Epic owns the company.

also ugh, just saw the "1v1/2v2/3v3 and new map" shit. Hope that isn't real, there's never any point to more maps in these games and it just splinters the community

>>154050367
i mean technically that's what a "skin" originally is, just a new texture over no model changes

>>154050317
>Did they officially announce card crafting? Where?
looks like in this new datamined information it's more or less confirmed with crafting components

>>154050596
Every successful moba in existence for whatever reason has a Wukong Character, literally Dota2 just announced Wukong.

>>154049196
Because creep score = skill. Yeah, okay.

>>154050536
With PS4. Killer Instinct is XB1/PC crossplay, and that has working voicechat.

>>154050762

Card crafting has been planned from the start.

https://www.reddit.com/r/paragon/comments/40ctcx/more_details_about_card_system/

>>154050805
Yeah, I get that, sadly. but let's get real, if their Wu-Kong will be close to the quality we'll be offered with this mayan Steel design from the concept art. Don't really want to know how ass-raped he will look.
>Steel's silhouette looks silly instead of threatening .

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>>154050762
>also ugh, just saw the "1v1/2v2/3v3 and new map" shit. Hope that isn't real, there's never any point to more maps in these games and it just splinters the community
People love their more casual modes, and 5v5 conquest can be stressful as fuck. People have clamored for new maps, anyway.

>>154050805
At least SMITE has the REAL Sun Wukong. I will forever hold him as the barometer for all other Wukong knockoffs, because he was so fucking good.

>>154050885

Yes, being able to control the lanes and consistently get last hits IS skill. It is not even that hard. Become better.

Paragon even makes it easier than any other MOBA because the healthbars are huge, notched, expand on focus, and there's that dope-ass AM2 Pavlovian chime sound effect every time you do it. Listen to your minion's shots to time it.

>>154050762

Where are you seeing this new mode shit? Steve's already said in an interview that "We are... not a new game mode".

http://www.pcinvasion.com/paragon-interview-steve-superville

1v1 sounds retarded anyway.

They have mentioned a solo draft but that just means a queue with no 5-stack premades. It's still 5v5.

>>154051589
>Where are you seeing this new mode shit?

in the datamine linked here >>154050118

that said I don't trust this guys datamining TOO much, a new map could just be a tutorial thing or something, though he did mostly correctly assess the narbash patch

happy to see this is no longer buy to play, gonna give it a go thanks for shilling op.

>>154051751

Xi4 is legit (Epic even featured him on the official blog and invited him to the Open Beta launch party) and he's always been on point regarding things that do go into the game, especially heroes... however, not everything in the dumps does get finalized or released.

Anyway, weird!

>>154050596
I would like one of the other guys instead of Wukong. Give me hungry pig guy.

>>153977507
Sure wish my toaster could run this at a decent framerate

>>154053983

Get a PS4.

Then get a real PC.

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>>154052816
It's strange how they went with all the high-tech stuff and then decided to cram all the primitive shit without any explanation ... still not sure what they're going for. About the hungry pig guy ... dunno about him, but with some sort of proper backstory a decent design could be released with a proper explanation with all the stuff he has on, or something about his hit, his movement, the way he acts, the role he takes. So far they're just filling the game with designs without reasoning behind them. Well, I might be wrong tho. The silhouette is fucking important and with a backstory - things will work.

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ps : this is the longest the Paragon thread have survived.

>>154055005
as the maker of the last 6 threads i can confirm, last highest post count was in the 70's

>>154055083
we were honestly averaging around 11 posts per thread before this one

>>154052816
>Give me hungry pig guy.
Zhu Bajie, the lecherous pig?

>>154054246
The game is clearly going for a sci-fi fantasy aesthetic, which essentially gives them carte blanche to do whatever they want.

>>153977507
Fuck yes. I'm level 20 in paragon, still grinding those levels.
Got custom decks for all my mains and rolled some pretty fucking awesome cards yesterday.

I main Gideon, Muriel, Gadget and Murdock.

I was always wondering where this thread was. I play on Ps4 and PC, if anybody is interested in playing sometime my name is "RobotLivesMatter"

>playing Gideon
>garbage melee team with the typical rampage Greystone khaimera feeding
>go to defend right turret
>after killing my teammates enemy team decides to dive me level 7 Gideon
>I had a shadow scroll with a 3 cast token and necroveil
>enemy team dives me
>press my ult to collect my reward
>double kill, enter shadow plane
>aim my Q and collect the triple
>teleport and auto for my Quadra
>entire enemy team had fallen
>team snowballs
>I win game

Such a fun game man. Still playing around with my decks. Sad to see energy pen doesn't go negative.

>>154055408
Names of the next 7 champs: Tacticia, Kwang, Vamp, Mudang, FallenAngel, Crunch, Ice

tfw vladimir champ and ice champ incoming

blessed

>>154039190
>lose games because of an afk who also fed

I haven't gone deep into deckbuilding yet. I'm still using the basic and intermediate decks the game gives you, although I did build bruiser Steel and bruiser Feng Mao decks before the new decks were rolled out. I'd go back and tweak those decks, but I haven't played those two recently, and I'm not sure what their current default decks look like.

>>154055408
Yes. I only know him from the Stephen Chow movie and Pokemon though. That's why I called him the hungry pig guy. Prease forgive my ignolance.

>>154046894
Murdock attack speed goes pretty high when you stack cards like whirling wand and madstone gem


>>154051298
I find it easier to cs in every other MOBA but paragon makes it feel so fucking useless
Csing in paragon and staying in 1 lane is like admitting defeat.

Enemy stands there last hitting and I just auto them to death and start roaming, pushing lanes and collecting kills. Also I place harvesters literally everywhere
One game we had about 5 harvesters up including one near Orb Prime.

Csing doesn't feel relevant in this game. Maybe it's because I'm still low level so correct me if I'm wrong. But I'll collect 7 kills before 15 minutes as Murdock and become unstoppable.

PSN IS DOWN

ALL THE KIDS ARE OUT OF THE POOL

EVERYONE GET INTO A MATCH

I just spent a full minute going into travel mode and repeatedly jumping off of mid lane into a tree as Greystone to melee down an enemy ward I couldn't get to otherwise

it's the little things

>>154035859
Yes she has no escapes so building tank is pretty important.
Especially in the late game. You will be bullied by the enemy team if you dont

>>154057827
What's wrong with PS4 players?

>>154059389

nothing, I'm just PCMRing

though PS4 players are far more likely to do the "Good job!" pingspam shit because pinging is easier on a pad

>>154046894
Well he is fury so you can build pretty high attack speed. Unlike sparrow and grim.

Anyone wanna play a game together

I'm this guy >>154056120

>>154056120
I love gadget and she got fucking buffed. Her sticky meme travels twice as fast and her ult placement range has increased.if you use her speed gate right she can become a real pest. Tank her as well a little cus muh meta

The game I'm in right now is a fucking trainwreck.

>pick Fey
>eh this hero seems cool
>guess I'll max this aoe ability for wave clear
>buying nothing but energy
>ability is maxed
>it still doesn't clear the wave

What a shit fucking hero, won't be picking her again.

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Worked on that spreadsheet some more.

Armor pen is weird.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JkQLrA7uI82L1FMezUg5wrA9p7XILx3OpZAKbi8KrqY/edit#gid=0

>>154061978
>maxing the aoe ability
Why? It's useless without her slow or pullback
And it is only good for zoning and peeling turrets

>>154056150
>Vladimir champ

Absolutely livid

>>154061978
yeah I'm not sure what to think of fey, I feel like she's stretched a bit too thin... does OK damage, has OK cc, has a decent synergy ultimate but not the best.

I think maxing her slow first is probably the best idea, since it actually increases the movement slow debuff it applies

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>picking heroes for cc when you can pull the whole team with Grux and fuck them in the ass.

>>154062213
>>154062398
Is she meant to be a support?

>>154062710
Nevermind, just checked the wiki. Didn't realize she was meant to be a support and not a caster. No wonder she did no damage.

>>153977802
This one is pretty nice

reptilian overlord murdock

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>>154062693

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>They have a Steel-Riktor-Narbash gank squad all game

What I want to know is why I can't see any of the starter decks until I'm actually in-game. I can't keep creating a custom deck just to see what's in the starter deck.

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bump

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did he ask for this?

>>154065127
nice shitpost

first real shitpost i've ever seen in any of these threads

Hooo Lord I need niggas to play with tired of all these scrubs

>>154066761
Let's gather some names, then.

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Reminder that if the enemy has a Kallista it's a free win.

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>>154067506
Kallari* fuck I'm tired

>>154067506

She just got all of her abilities buffed so just wait until you face someone competent.

>>154067802
Been against 5 since the update.
Made all of em ragequit.

She's still shit f4m

>>154067907

If they're ragequitting, ever, they're not competent.

Just you wait.

is there a point to jumping?

>>154068707

It's useful for body-blocking. I've had someone block one of my Grim.EXE ults by jumping in front of my target. More commonly used to block the tops of towers from rangers.

Gideon can use his jump to combo into his teleport / ult for extra height.

What's the deal with cards? I'm not a scrub I know how MOBA's work and I've played SMITE since alpha however won't a limited selection of cards hinder my performance?

This is the only thing that's making me squeamish about Paragon.

>>154069232
Is this bait?

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There are people on this thread and playing this game right now who don't play Grim.exe

Why do they have such poor taste?

>>154069331
Are you a serious? It's a fucking question

>>154069516
Huge Hit Box

>>154069516
Murdock is better

I've gotten lucky today, every single one of my 6 games have been someone on the enemy team DC'ing and us winning handily.

in game name is " NA_Player " if anyone wants to play. I'm gold-plat elo on agora and plat on fury, not sure which ones more accurate.

I read that people were looking for people to play with so if you're around that range add me senpai

>>154069232
Not really, all the starting cards you get are good enough to allow you to win against players with most/all cards.

Having more cards just gives you more "options" for your builds.

>>154069516
Because I'm not a shitter and can aim so I play Murdock

>>154068923
>>154068707

Also you can literally use jumping to last hit minions that are behind the wave. Or get a better angle on hitting ranged auto's for harassment without the enemy being able to hit you back without jumping or having their shots hit the wave.

Also it's great BM

>>154069659
How long have you been playing the game?
You level 50? Can you get to gold-plat elo before that?

>>154069232
I thought the card system was retarded too but really it's ok. It's just this games way of adding a level of customization. Relics and items like smite, runes/masteries from LoL, etc.
I don't see how it hinders anything desu.

>>154069965
>Not being Diamond

>>154069965
A few weeks, I'm level 25. If you're good at the game from the get go I see no reason why you can't hit diamond elo on agora.gg if you're just fucking good enough.

Tho from what i've seen I don't see that there is any real momentum climbing. Like how in league your climbing ramps up insanely quickly if you just don't drop games.

>>154069516

Already mastered him (& TwinBlast & Kallari).

Can anyone explain to me what good Steel's RMB / R1 is supposed to be? I can't find any use for it other than dragging out an inevitable death.

>>154070160
Agora is good however use fury if you have played on both platforms because fury tracks both and agora doesnt

>>154067802
She got buffed across the board AND now has access to Intellect cards, for what that's worth.

Smart cast when
Pre-game ability auto level when

Come on people it's 2016

>>154069815
Stop it Erod

Why do people base everything only on your rank wtf

I was bad when I first started and now I'm pretty good but my rank is still low end

Do I just make a new account like every other shitter

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>>153977507
>A thread that has lasted over 100 posts
>Already has tripfags
>Could be a sign of paragon becoming an official general

I have mixed feelings

>>154070160
I'm level 20 but I have gotten the hang of this game already so I'll be gold or higher once I play more games.
I'll hit you up when I get to your elo senpai

>>154070075
If anyone here isn't above 2k
Please leave

>>154070554
Just stop losing games.
Who's giving you a hard time with rank?

>>154070318
Steel whipping out his shield gives him a bunch of extra armor and effectively enlarges his hitbox. Ostensibly, you should be using the shield as a buffer between you and your back line in the middle of a heavy fight. If it's a Murdock-Murdock 1v1, you want to be the Steel in the middle holding up the shield to protect your Murdock.

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>>154071079
>mom I'm doing it again!

>>154070623
>Greystone has flashbacks about that gank.webm

>>154071090
A worringly large number of people on the official forums have a habit of discarding opinions if the OP is not of a sufficiently high rank on agora or whatever.
>"You have no right to talk about what's balanced when you're silver on agora, fuccboi."
Things like that.

>>154070325
Help
Fury says I'm 1666 elo
Agora says I'm 1182 elo
Which is telling the truth?

>>154071223
>shitposts
>Doesn't post their elo

silver shitters please go

>>154070318
>>154071186
https://youtu.be/xlOVKWGMXjE?t=4m27s
Like this.

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>>154064407
>>154064407


Jesus Christ, How Horrifying

>>154071621
Leather belt?

>>154072104
i like this meme

>>154072104
>Bush
>Not shadowpool

>>154073286
>>154073286

Im not an artist, I didnt feel like editing the brush to be whisps or whatnot

>>154072259
That joke never crossed my mind, oddly enough.

>these fucking delays on robotgirls attacks

what is this fuckery? jesus christ. why would they do this?

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>>154074625
Because Muriel is a caster support. Why would you expect her basic attacks to amount to anything?

Yo i just had a howitzer in my game that had a flame striped skin.

wtf? can't find info on it anywhere. developer only skin?

Why are Gideon players so toxic? Literally every single one will bitch at their team and brag about how good they are at the game because there was no Riktor and he easily teleported out of danger.

>>154075034
yeah and it fucks up her abilites too, specifically the orb shield for allies. It should just instantly shoot to the ally. It's retarded.

>>154064407
>not Grux, Riktor, Severog
>not getting knocked back by Grux, snared by Sev and pulled back + silenced by Riktor
Hated those motherfuckers so bad

>>154075076

Hotrod Howitzer. Exclusive to peeps who bought the $60 or $100 Founder's Pack.

>>154075243
if it shot to the ally and wasn't a pickup you wouldn't be able to use it on yourself...

>>154075375
I bought the epic and prime pack, but I'm guessing the Founders edition can't be bought anymore since it's not anywhere on the store.

What else came with it that was exclusive, just the hotrod skin?

>>154075375
No, you'd just point down. Plenty of abilities in smite work this way.

>>154075512
Just Hotrod Howitzer. The level of founder's pack you had also determined how many master's challenges you owned.

>>154075512

Just that, and crazy sick values on Master Challenges. Nothing else exclusive.

>>154064542
Because they're all extremely basic. Just a bunch of universal cards. What more do you need to see?

>>154075243
>>154074625
Muriels can shield herself and others three times and has a slow.
Her role is support not to KS.

>>154075691
>not saving your Q to ks kills
Do you even muriel

>>154075778
It does such little damage, though. I mean, yeah, it's a long-range slow exactly like Gideon's, but still.

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>People will never understand your kit, no matter how much the devs try to explain it
>People don't realize you're the most versatile and arguably most balanced hero in the game
Feng Mao's had a hard life.

>>154069516
holy fuck, put a hat on him and grim is literally an amalgamation of sawtooth and squarewave

inb4 exposed myself, thanks for the late reply, etc

>>154076319
But Grim is already wearing a little bonnet.

>>154076407
oops, i meant uhh... ".exe"?!

i keep forgetting there's lore now

epic dropped the tumblr ball by referring to kallari as "her" in official lore

>>154076502

Kallari's always been a she. Don't get why people ever thought she was male.

>>154076567
I always just assumed a genderless killer android or something

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https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/news/state-of-the-game-july-2016
>Twinblast, like Gideon was for Casters, is the one-and-only-go-to Ranger. [...] We may need to look at a kit rework for him in the future.
All right, /parag/. You are the newest member of Paragon's balance team, and you have been given the daunting task of giving TwinBlast a top-to-bottom kit makeover. How do you do it?

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>>154076780
Nah, Kallari's always been female. People didn't immediately tell because she's in a full-body skinsuit, and she's flat. She has a cute butt, though.

>>154076853
turn him into Adam Jensen

>just got a Blood Catalyst and Bounty Stalker both in 2 packs in a row
am I being memed on?
>2 minor strikes in the 3rd pack
that's more like it

Bounty Stalker count: 20

If I like Gadget what are some other heroes I'd enjoy?

If anything I need a good ranger/caster with a really good escape option.

>launcher crashes when I'm trying to download the game

I really fucking hate Epic Games Launcher. It gave me a shitton of trouble with Shadow Complex and it looks like it's going to be doing so here too.

>>154078741
Twin Blast has hands down the best escape
Murdock hits like a truck and can pick off enemies
Sparrow Is great during a team fight
Grim.exe has an locked on murdock ult

>>154078741
Gideon has the best escape of all mages.
TwinBlast has the most mobility of the rangers.

bamp

>>154078964
>Twin Blast has hands down the best escape

That's not Kallari.

They also seriously nerfed it from what it was before. And Steel has three abilities that can be used to escape.

>>154079218
He asked for rangers and casters to migrate to from Gadget.

>>154079456

Oh right, my bad.

Grim.exe's displacement blast is potentially stronger as an escape if you're skilled, plus his slow shot keeps them at bay and his shield nullifies pulls (especially Grux).

>>154072104
Poor little TwinBlast

Anyone know what could be causing my game to slide funny?

As in, the characters will appear to be sliding and when I do leap type abilities sometimes they fly way far from me or something

It's like connection lag but I've never experienced lag on any other game (and my connection is good anyway, + im wire connected)

>>154080831
Its lag, the games lagging for me too all day

>>154079708
A really good Grim almost never gets successfully ganked/ jumped on.

High skillcap hero, playing against a good Grim is a pain

>finally managed to get it downloading without crashing
About time.
Question, is muriel still the best and most OP support in the game? I really wanted to play her but with how strong she was I just figured I wouldn't enjoy her if I was steamrolling everyone.
Also does the queueing system still have you pick a character before you get into queue or is it more a lobby style stuff where everyone gets into a match lobby first and then character picking? That system is interesting but I think it just makes for some really bad matchups.

>>154082806
Nope

>>154082806

No. She might actually be the worst now, but not by much. They nerfed every aspect of her shields heavily. She can still save a life and turn a fight with her ult, but she can't make anyone invincible like she used to.

>Also does the queueing system still have you pick a character before you get into queue or is it more a lobby style stuff where everyone gets into a match lobby first and then character picking?

It's draft mode now, so the latter.

>>154082806
They really hate Muriel

>>154084039

She used to be the best hero in the game. Her ult used to shield ALL ALLIES within the AoE, and her shields used to do over twice as much as well as providing health regen. She was broken.

Epic just likes doing sledgehammer nerfs but they've acknowledged that nobody likes that and so they've been more subtle recently.

>>154083969
I'm completely fine with that, I remember Dekker not even being worth playing

>>154084332

They made Dekker the new Queen of Agora and overtuned her ult so that allies can walk in and out of it freely whereas enemies both get sucked into it and damaged as they try to escape. Nobody plays her now though since The Fey and Narbash are newer.

>>154084461
>look up the fey
>elven fairy
More like the gey

>>154069750
>>154070021
Thanks for the clarification.

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>>154082806
Muriel is still amazing if played well

>>154076264
How do you build him?

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fw you and a group of ps4 players blow up a bunch of overrated streamers

>261 post
So lets say we actually reach bump limits
We gonna get a pastebin full of names so we can play together?

>>154085390
I want to post mine but people will trash me cause I'm silver, I'm pretty good player at this point just my elo needs to get up there

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>>154085390

>>154085390
>implying i want to play with any of you shitters

>>153977507
You should update the OP give people more Info on the game
Mention that its new and free to play

I really want this general to be a thing you feel me dawg

>>154086274
Ill do it

>>154064168

M-more?

>>154085390

I would but I'm a new level 10 shitter that nobody will want to play with.

>>153977507
>>154086937
Board number 4

>>154086972
Why? We still haven't hit the bump limit

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Has anyone used Stone of Salvation with any success? I keep wanting to incorporate it into builds for heroes like Greystone, Steel or Feng but it's a tough sell.

>>154086972
????

nice going retard

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>>154088712

>>154088735
>Jhin player

figures

>>153980571
It's prettier for sure.
But the matches are so slooow

>>154088948
Then you should have been around when the Meta was everybody in the jungle and roam around

>>154085390
Yeah sure I think I've spammed mine by now

>>154086972
>500 posts early
ebin.......... simply ebin

>>154062710
>>154063019
>a support with only 1 slow skill and a zonepull ult as its tool
why even bother?
just run either gideon or dekker one way or the other they can do what fey does a lot better.
not to mention shitty affinity.

>>154091363
Who knows. She should just be reclassed as a damage dealer and given more damage.

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good night fellow paranons

I honestly thought Gadget would be strong but she's kinda meh

does a lot of damage though

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Brand new to the game, didn't know it was finally in open beta until I saw this thread. Any tips for a newbie? I've played Smite, HoTS, and SMNC so I'm no stranger to Mobas, but is there any big tips? I've played a couple bot games to get used to it, and out of the characters I've played I've liked Iggy/Scorch and Gideon

When you wake up and the thread didn't archive over night.


We made it boys

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>>154097260
One thing I've found, pick a "first buy" item after your potions and starting tokens. One with a completed item bonus.

On that item have it so the upgrades are 1x 3 cost 1x 2 cost and 1x 1 cost. That way at 12 card power you can finish the item and get the passive effect of that card immediately, it's a good power spike/ power curve thing you can do.

Also on iggy there's apparently a poison damage item that affects his turrets that literally makes or breaks the character. I've carried games just fine around platinum ELO with him without it, but apparently the poison item on him makes him god tier.

Card crafting WHEN

Wake UP /PARAG/

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Slowly but surely

>>154084742
I build Feng Mao as a bruiser: half attack, half defense. In doing so, Feng Mao becomes literally the most balanced character in the game and can inject himself into any scenario. I know people like to build full offense (attack speed, lifesteal, etc.) on him, but I feel that's not fully exploring his potential.

>>154088221
Feng might be able to use it if you're willing to build armor on him. You're basically popping that stone for an extra surge of burst damage.

>>154099441
>One thing I've found, pick a "first buy" item after your potions and starting tokens. One with a completed item bonus.
>On that item have it so the upgrades are 1x 3 cost 1x 2 cost and 1x 1 cost. That way at 12 card power you can finish the item and get the passive effect of that card immediately, it's a good power spike/ power curve thing you can do.
I don't follow.

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>>154097260
>>154099441
said New Guy posting again. Just played my first actual pvp game, and of course, someone left calling everyone else a feeder. We actually held out pretty well despite being a 4v5, but lost.

How does my "throwing together cards with stats I saw people recommend on the forums/reddit" build look

>>154103539
Don't worry about the leavers. thats a low elo thing.
If you are actually good you'll climb and be free of the shitters.

For iggy it's okay. you really need some of the other cards to make iggy the broken piece of shit he is. once you have tainted magic, iggy is the best caster in the game.

>>154103031

Overloading a card with more than 10 power. What he's saying to to rush a card that has a completion bonus.

For example take the card , Adamant Edge. It's a fantastic first but because it gives 6.5,physical damage and 100 health allowing better trades a early game. Then, it has a completion bonus of 13 damage. That's a free 2 power strike card.

So what I do is overload adamant edge with three three powered major strikes. Giving me about 80 physical damage with only 12 points.

But because you overloaded it above 10 you're going to have to have underpowered cards later to make up for the 60/60 max

>>154104150
I put 1/1/1 strikes on my Adamant edge.
The power spike is great. then when I get to end game I sell it and replace it with a normal 2/2/3 card.

Wait what the fuck? Kallari's ultimate is no longer that sweet ass dash move? Why?

>Khaimera still hasn't been nerfed.
>"B-But he isn't only silvers thing his op!"
>Carried to diamond and almost master with him
S-sure his balanced.

>>154104262

I prefer going 3/3/3 major strikes because I'm more a laner and I don't back until I get three full powercycles anyway. So on first back I'm at +80 damage

>>154104289

They felt her gameplay was too binary: You either hit that ult, or you were totally worthless to the team while it recharges. A lot of scrubs couldn't consistently hit the ult, giving everyone the perception Kallari was inherently trash, so they changed her kit to make her easier to play and a bit more versatile.

>>154104289
Kallari's old Death Sentence was short-range and got caught on geometry all the time. Now she has global enemy vision for a couple seconds and can globally teleport to an enemy for a bit of damage. It doesn't make much sense to me either.

>>154104609
It's the ultimate, psssh, nothing personal, kid.

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Oh shit

>>154104593
This. Old Kallari was literally only useful for her ult; without that, she's useless. They've since tweaked her kit overall to give her more utility and sources of damage. In fact, as of yesterday's patch, Kallari's damage was buffed across the board, and now she's Corruption/Intellect instead of vanilla Corruption. We still don't have an assassin who can straight-up delete players, though.

Speaking of, now that Kallari has access to blue cards, what should be looked at for her?

>>154104874
>ANOTHER RANGER
Or maybe it's some variant of assassin, since that looks like a shorter-range carbine/SMG.

>>154104874
This better be a big ass mech with all sorts of dakka weaponry and shit and NOT "old war vet with gun"

>>154104874
The chest armor is sticking out a lot
GRILL?
LONDON?
O
N
D
O
N
?

>>154105062
You don't have a MAXIMUM DAKKA character who uses a silenced SMG. Plus, that looks like a bodysuit in the back.

>>154105118
It's murdocks wife :^)
Would be neat actually

>>154105237
But Murdock's wife is dead, I thought.

>>154105303
It doesn't say anywhere she is dead. just not to mention his wife the murdock.
Maybe she's his boss

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Rate my murdock build.
won 5 games in a row so far.

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>>154105889
Fuck you and everything you stand for.

>>154095091
She's literally safer Gideon with a Q that sticks and no risk ultimate.

And ALL of her abilities do damage.

What's so meh about her?

>>154104383
Okay someone explain to me how to be a good khaimera. Am I supposed to get tanky? I do absolutely nothing as full Strike damage And everything kills me

>>154105889
Your making me nervous. I might even try it out myself

>>154106870
I've been playing Gadget for a long while, and she doesn't see nearly as much play as Gideon, probably because she doesn't have a blink and a black hole ult like he does. I'm really glad they extended the range on her Tesla Dome ult, because I've struggled with planting the dome mid-teamfight and not getting shit smeared on my face.

>>154104128
>first week of paragon
>leavers all The time
>royally pissed
>spam Gideon in rage
>have shitloads of intellect and corruption
>rarely see an afk now
Feels good to be good.

>>154104150
Does anybody else calculate your deck up to 60 power when making decks?
Lots of my builds will have 1 slot open because every other card takes up tons of power. I have to limit my 5-10 cards to 1 or 2 per deck.

My builds work great for me though. However you reminded me to fix my necroveil since it has no bonus.

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>>154106870
>Duel an enemy with Gadget
>They run away
>Catch them with a sticky bomb
>They disappear over the hill into defilade
>*BOOM* "An enemy has been slain"

>>154107352
The whole point of Gideon in my opinion, is that he is a high risk high reward hero.
That's why his ult does so much damage and his teleport is sort of a fight or flight mechanic.

Grux Severog and Rampage can cancel your ult before you hit the air
Riktor can silence you

Gadget can load all of her abilities including her tesla dome that has enough range to hurt Gideon in the air.

Maybe you just gotta get closer with her
If anything I have an easy time escaping with her gate and slow

>>154107613
The problem as well was that Gideon was literally the winningest mage in the game, by a fairly large margin. In games where one team had Gideon and the other didn't, the Gideon team had well over a 50% winrate. That's why his ult is no longer CC-immune. In fact, Epic chose the overall paradigm that all ults are CC-vulnerable, because what's the fucking point if you can't stop an ult? There's no inter-play if you have CC-immune ults.

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>Try out Narbash
>Everything clicks with him

what kind of deck should I build for this guy, I fuckin love him

>>154107949
Same with TwinBlast and Rampage. For their respective classes, Gideon, TB and Rampage were extreme overperformers, hence the rafts of nerfs.

>>154108327
Twinblast was stupidly OP back in closed beta.

>>154108476
Remember when Murdock was the problem child?

>>154108549
I remember from closed beta
Twin Blast, Muriel and Murdoch were OP 10/10 fucking nerf pls epic
Gideon is is also OP please nerf
Everyone else was shit
Howitzer was ultra shit

In reality everyone was really playable besides maybe Howitzer and TB and Murdoch were pretty strong.

Do towers/cores still die really fast?

>>154108729
Depends on how fed you are and how many carries you have. A fed carry can delete a core in a few seconds. They've weakened towers a bit, too, to cut down on game time.

>>154108082
Fuck your narbash nigga

>>154108082
As a mega memebuilder
I have a deck for narbash that's Health Regen and Mana
I would have a card that gives nearby allies 4.2 hpregen
Pop on my hp regen song
Leave it on all teamfight and ult
Always funny.

>>154107405


Depends on the character. If I see the enemy team is picking squish then I'll pick my khaimera that has damage/crit, eat carries - shit explosions. That deck only has 60 points worth because that's all I'll ever need.

If I see a more balanced enemy team, then I'll play damage sevarog that has damage and resistances. That deck has about 80 points so I can pick and choose what I need. If the enemy Gideon goes on a rampage, I'll pull my energy resist from the deck. If the enemy twinblast is going apeshit, then armor. It depends on what you need at the time.

>>154108878
what did I do

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Still waiting for them to fix the meta.

On the other hand "fast-traveling" gives the game a fresh and fast paced feel, but it also makes the gameplay feel like a constant shit-storm because there is nothing preventing the team from just steam-rolling from lane to lane. I think the answer definitely lies in how the minions and towers hit and take damage as well as how easily you get rewards from killing them.

Until that gets fixed, there's little interest in playing the game. It's nice to see that they added some monsters in the jungle though, might play a couple of matches just to check those out.

>>154110625
Were you here when travel mode could be activated on demand?

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>>154111895
Yes. :(
As i said, i don't mind the speed, but pretty much everything that happens because of it...