/pdg/ - Payday: The Heist and Payday 2 General

First for mah opinion > You’re opinion

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What a lovely day, right?

>>153972461
Your opinion my choice

>people that romanticize jacket

he killed a lot of people for no real reason
like, at least a hundred people

>>153972659
being russian is reason enough

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The Son heister when

He's the only character in Hotline Miami series who even pulled off an actual heist anyway

>>153972701
just play sokol and wear a balaclava

>>153972693
but the cops
he killed like 30-50 cops

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>>153972779
I'M A FUCKING RETARD WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THIS BEFORE

>>153972701
>>153972779
And get this
http://lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=14143

>>153935068
>What are you wanting to throw, fucking battle-axes?
YES

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>>153972916
Fucking nice

>>153972789
being cop is reason enough

THIS PLACE IS CRAWLING WITH COPS

>>153973247
but most cops arent bad people

>>153973319
but by their continued employment they are supporting the system where cops who are bad people are protected from losing their authority which makes them bad people

>>153973310
I'M GETTING TIRED OF THIS

>>153973319
literally all cops are bad people

>>153973319
why do you even play this game

>>153973572
because its fun

>>153973069
Richter heister when?

>>153973447
fuck off nigger

go back to the zoo

>>153973623
Never because Richter never did anything wrong

>>153973929
He's too good for Payday

>>153973623
http://lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=1181

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>>153892348
>>153892946
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Elephant In The Room (elephant_4_jobs)
- Sniperino (any_25_sniper_kills)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

>>153973693
epic /pol/ meme my storm klan power legion /b/rother

So why is biker heist an elephant heist?
How does this better the elephant's career?

>>153975328
wait a second.......
you're not a bot................

>>153975419
they needed an available VA

>>153975419
the elephant is rust's cuck

>>153975419
Well it's better than he being his own contact for a single mission and just to be forgotten again

>>153975749
whos rusts girl then

>>153975926
clover

>>153976206
shut up dude clover's mine

>>153976206
hot

>>153974067
Exactly. But can the swift and savage Manny Pardo take on the Payday gang? After taking down the dreaded Miami Mutilator, anything is possible. But to take on an entire team of thieves killing cops, the only logical way is to join them undercover. Will this be the toughest challenge the Ace Detective shall face after finishing off the dread Miami Mutilator?

>>153976482
Man, what if commissioner Garrett got Pardo instead of Winters instead.

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>Wanna play Jacket
>I use an ICTV build

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>>153977289
I feel your pain. It feels wrong using anything other than a suit and HM masks with him.

>>153977385
What about LBV?

>>153977565
I play Jacket and wear that

I think that's the limit

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>>153977289
>>153977385
>have jacket as your preferred character, even wearing a HM mask
>join a random lobby and someone is already Jacket
>Wearing armor
>No HM mask on
just

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>>153977289
>jacketto
>ictv, kawaii mask
thanks, i just found my next build

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45th for everyone loves sokol

CRIMEFEST

WHEN

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>>153978895
No joke I insta kick any Jacket player wearing armor or not wearing a Hotline Miami mask, unless it for cheevos

If you don't wanna play Jacket the proper way you need to gtfo

Armor: Chains, Dragan, Sokol, Wolf, Bonnie, Sydney, Rust

Two-Piece Suit/LBV: EVERYONE ELSE

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DALLAS IS DOWN

>>153982094
AAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M DYIN
SOMEBODY GET ME A MEDIC BAG

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>>153981931
Good

>>153982094
but is he down wit da clown

>>153982139
GETTHEFUCKUP

>>153982589
Aww thanks alot my friend.

>>153982589
THANKS BUDDY

AK5 or AK rifle ?

>>153985010
part of the reason why the weapon rebalance exists is because the AK5 was shit before
it's still shit now

>primary ARs with 90 ammo
why is this a thing

why does this exist

>>153985730
"balance"

>>153985789
so heisters can carry
200 pounds of fuckin space age combat armor
grenades and rocket launchers and C4 and sentry guns and all other sorts of stupid shit
the nuclear warheads from the murkywater joint

but god forbid I try to carry more than three mags for my shitty fuckin M16

what a joke

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>last update secretly added "safehouse robbers" into the game,

what did the devs mean by this ?

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>>153986171
>you can heist other safehouses

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>>153986319
>competitive safehouse heisting

>>153981931
pure liquid austism

>>153986319
>>153986991
I hope it's optional like how FOB in MGSV was supposed to be.

>>153987053
>austism

>>153986171
[citation needed]

>>153987120
yeah austism, im pretty sure no american would be this retarded

>>153987176
>austism
>s

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>>153986319
>friends invite you to his lobby, saying it will be fun,
>they're robbing your own safehouse,

fun this, i'll invest everything in thanatos and Kobus 90 weapons

>>153987176
>no american would be this retarded
You don't know a lot of Americans, do you?

>>153987154
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PC_update_history_(Payday_2)

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>>153987375
>free wiki where anyone can edit
pic related

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This is something
Triggered with the drills

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>>153987897
OH SHIT I THINK I FOUND IT

Mitch event? Black sky box over the safe house

>>153988227
Mitchell is the true villain of Payday 2

>>153988227
Could it have any relation with the art event they did a few days ago?

>>153988506
>>153988593
Nah, that shit is old and I have posted about it before, but >>153987897 is new

>>153988593
What art event?

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>can hear breathing and chewing over someone's mic
>you can tell that person is fat just from their breathing
>say in chat "i can hear someone type"
>their mic goes abruptly silent for a few seconds
>guy leaves the game

>>153989206
One that is happening in steam forums, make capaign art for McKendrick

>>153989376
Oh. I didn't know that was going on.

>>153989136
Was there ever a winner? I didnt take notice

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>>153981641
and Sokol loves everyone!

>>153981641
I hate sokol and I wish http://lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=13061 was a finished mod.

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>>153989881
fixed

>>153989982
Perfect

>>153989965
I wish the audio was a bit better. It annoys me that some lines are louder than others.

/utg/ faggots get out of payday now

>>153989965
>missing out on the cloaker smoker line
your loss

>>153990420
nice /ink/ meme

>>153990614
>everyone who disagrees with me is /ink/

typical /utg/ response

>>153991316
Yes and?

>>153991316
why should i care

>>153991316
why should I care

>>153991316
>Schmuddel
>Sch
is he jewish?

>>153991572
why
should
I
care

>>153991316
literally who

>>153991572
seriously though why should i care about any of that

he could be some cannibal and baby-rapist savage jungle voodoo nigger in the heart of africa and i still wouldn't care

>>153991702
I would care even less if he was in the heart of africa desu

>>153991826
no, buddy, you don't get it

i'm asking you

why

should

i

care

>>153991904
You should care that a guy is a pedophile and other bullshit because he made a good mod that has absolutely nothing to do with him being a pedophile or has any pedophile content
Don't question the shitposter's logic, his ego is very fragile and can't stand success

>>153992082
dude, he could be the fuckin opium coked up antichrist come on some unholy mission from the evil dick devil of outer space to banish all mortal souls to an eternity of being ass raped by a thorned cock and i still wouldn't care

>>153992203
You would care if he made a good mod that had some of the opium coked up antichrist's unholy mission from the evil dick devil of outer space to banish all mortal souls to an eternity of being ass raped by a thorned cock shoehorned in.
There is nothing even close to that going on, that's the whole point of why this shitposter is a retard

>>153992286
>letting volunteers clean up the messes you have made by not streamlining everything and then failing to put their name anywhere but in a stupid fucking .txt file everyone ignores
isn't that true of literally every piece of media since the dawn of fuckin time though

like who seriously looks at the credits of anything

who fuckin goes to watch a movie and sits through the credits

who fuckin plays a game and thinks "aww ye man dude i should pop a look see at dem credits bru"

>>153992082
>You should care
No I shouldn't.

If you want moral outrage or a personal army about shit nobody cares about, go on Steam forums or lastbullet or something.

Meth batch complete

>>153992743
>what is sarcasm

Fuck me, we needed those damn cooks. I'm going with caustic soda.

if there's a last bullet

where's first bullet

tfw they're going to inevitably turn the panic room remake into another infinite meth cooking heist

>>153993338
okay lad now you're just shitposting

time for you to get banned

>>153993440
>been meaning to change IP anyways
What did he mean by this?

>going into tourneyfag lobbies and trolling them by using a gun that does exactly 39 damage

>>153993490
It means he's ban evading.

>>153993530
no shit, i mean why would he be wanting to change his IP

>>153993490
he means he's a notorious shitposter, ban-evader, and downright annoying cunt who deserves a complete range ban what like lanced jack and jim profit got back in the day

My favorite payday song is "ode to money"

>>153993776
Mine is boltgun grey

>>153993508
>tourneyfag lobbies
Those exist?

>>153994034
I'm pretty sure that's the same guy that had a mental breakdown over damage breakpoints

>>153993508
Joke's on you faggot, you can't even get exactly 39 damage, only fake 39 damage which actually still works for the DW breakpoint of 39.2

40 damage guy please post id

>>153994337
fuck yeah add me id/stary

>>153994034
>>153994074
*over damage breakpoints yesterday so take his posts with a grain of salt

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>>153994383
>Tf2 memes

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fuck yea lets do this

>>153994613
enjoy you're flaming deagle

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FUCK

>>153994776
At least it's a nice skin.

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>>153994875
it literally has no pattern whatsoever, or any unique color scheme

who the fuck thought up of this skin

amcar viable/compeitive with other ARs when

i get that it's a starter weapon but I love it's aesthetics, but not enough to use it above a superior different weapon

>>153994074
>>153994409
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person

fuck off with this meme

>>153995025
It just needs more mod options and more ammo.

In fact, it would be hilarious if they gave it a little less damage than the JP36, but a shit ton more ammo.

>>153995121
I'm pretty sure that we have at max just 1 copy-cat poster, I sincerely doubt anyone but you has enough autism to shitpost in nearly the exact same way frequently on such a dead general

>>153994968
>it literally has no pattern whatsoever, or any unique color scheme
Exactly
That's what makes it good

>>153995615
if you wanted something very basic why not just use goonmod weapon customizer

>>153995959
If you wanted tacky neon bullshit why not just download skins from fpsbanana

Bow/Judge/Rogue

>>153996003
but not all goonmod skins are neon? its custom, you can do anything you can do to masks, to the guns. and each individual part can be made different too

>>153996194
I wasn't talking about goonmod

>>153996269
im sexually confused noe

so how do guard spawns work, when all guards are dead on maps with more than 4 guards? i was playing around with some mods and i noticed after i killed everyone on fart gallery a guard would keep spawning every few minutes

>>153996371
It's okay, we all went through puberty once

>>153996597
>how do guard spawns work, when all guards are dead on maps with more than 4 guards?
I think you "modded" your game so hard you forgot pagers were a thing

>>153996823
that doesnt answer my question and i realize there is a 4 pager limit in the vanilla game

>>153996597
After 4 pagers, Art Gallery would spawn an extra guy who walks around the map and then leaves. He may or may not come back periodically. Also on FF Day 1, ED Day 2 Warehouse, and FF Day 3, though the FF Day 3 one definitely never comes back.

A lot of the existing stelf mods that give you more than 4 pagers mess with guard spawns.

>>153997174
a guard didnt just spawn once, they kept spawning every 2 or so minutes and i have no idea why the mods i was using would fuck with spawns like that if they did

>>153997268
Probably the Silent Shitter Silent Killer? mod. At least, that's the most notorious one.

In exchange for infinite pagers, they also give you infinite guards that just spawn inside the building and shit. I don't know the specifics but that's a thing it does.

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>>153989306
>can hear someone's spamming voices with mods like crazy,
>type ">autism" in the in-game chat,
>guy stops in shame,

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>>153996116
>Overkillsealofquality.png

>>153995410
>AR with the second highest ammo count among ARs in the game needs more ammo

>>153972659
Russian mobsters. Prior to that he was a soldier fighting against russian soldiers. I'm assuming he lost it after the death of his friend and joined the 50B network

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nth for heisting with your waifu

WE'RE BACK

>>154004208
Welcome back

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162th for underrated and misunderstood weapons

>>154004548
is this gun good

I haven't tried it yet

>>154005213
10 sec full reload, i tried, it fucking sucks.

>>154005213
If you don't have the brawler reload skin, just spit on it and use the GL40. This weapon suffer from the endless reload time syndrome.

who wants to heist

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>no pacifist achievement on PD2 counterfeit,

shit dlc, shit classic heist

>stuck with the buckshot shells,
>the barrel is not a silencer despite looking like one,
>default sights instead of the +2 concealment ones,

Can the Admiral skin be even more of a bigger failure ?

163th for stealth requires more skills than doing the job loud.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV5HnC3YZog

>>154006485
I want to heist

So the Buzzer can counter tazers if you keep it charged?

>>154009649
>free +damage to make it close enough to 000 without reduced ammo pickup
>free +total ammo
>if you want a silenced concealable shotgun why aren't you just using the judge

>>153992881
I miss this line so much

Page 10 motherfuckers

so what's the difference between the stun gun and the stun gloves anyway

is it just cosmetic, or is there some tangible draw time or swing time or other actual mechanical thing that's different

>>153994383
>>153994337
samefag

>>154022319
Last one need to be fully charge to be useful. First one is instant-benefits, only for the cost of 4,99 you goy !

>>154022579
well I just use the dlc unlocker anyway so that doesn't really matter to me

so the stun gun is just better in every way then?

>>153992024
>code stolen [...], like gluing a fucking puzzle together, bra-fucking-vo buddy can you even LUA???
But that is the essence of Lua. How new are you?

>>153997174
>>153997268
>>153997357
The Framing Frame D1/Art Gallery spawning guard is only infinite if you kill him. If you let him leave, he will never return.
Same goes for the guard in FF D3. It works like this in Vanilla, and also with Silent Assassin.

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>>154022579
Charging the buzzer/stunglubbs does nothing except raise the damage. The tase effect is always the same.
I think the Buzzer is slightly faster to swing though

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>Boiling point russians units will never be able to damage players like they did on release day one,

It sucks Overkill really want to casualize the game despite the "Dark Souls of heisting" feeling that the old director wanted to add into the game.

payday sucks
hm is better

>>154028191
Oh, you!

>>154027771
Goldfarb left because Starbreeze wanted shit that even he didn't want in the game and told him to take a hike.

That's how bad it is in Sweden.

>>154027771
It WAS a bug you dingus.
Go look for a mod if you still want your broken bullshit.

>>154024875
>I think the Buzzer is slightly faster to swing though
Yep, just confirmed it using an HUD mod that displays the charge time.

>Stun gloves
>0.3 seconds to hit

>Buzzer
>0.1 to hit

To think that I thought the opposite.

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>>154031908
>IT'S A BUG, NOT A FEATURE

Blackdozers instant-killing were also a bug but at least they were challenging.

Dozers not being stunned by explosives WHEN

>>154032416
Once again, get a fucking mod and stop whining.

I swear I heard one of the new heisters say "injured cop down"
what did he mean by this?

>>154033186
Officer's depressed!

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It's one of those days.

>>154035305
why join hard?

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>>154035305
>blacking out what you said

>>154035305
gallantly commit suicide

What's the function the game uses to re-add a weapon's default part when removing a custom one? I've read through the entire weaponfactorymanager and blackmarketmanager classes, can't find shit

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Heat street fucking when ? I want to speedrun the first part and leave pubbies behind in this game too.

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>>153975328
>>153975565
Hello heisters! Hope you are all enjoying the free weekend!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Hector Begs You For Mercy (hector_4_jobs)
- Target Practice: Shotgun (shotgun_100_kills)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

>>154037838
Really hoping we get no mercy

>>154039032
Bots don't hope

>>154039646
Do Side Jobs Bot dream?

>>154039829
no

>>154039618
What did he mean by this?

ex-pres for best perk deck

>>154041092
sociopath is best perk deck, this isn't even debatable

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>>154041092
>Not Rogue for best perk deck

come on, it makes any shitters powerful at level 0

>>154041547
rouge is bad

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>>154041092
>2013+3
>not using grinder

>>154041661
>rouge

>>154041771
its bad ok i said so

>>154041547
crook is pretty much a straight upgrade from rogue tho

>>154041542
What makes the perk deck good? I was thinking of getting Jacket.

>>154043304
ridiculous ammo on kill + pseudo-ECM feedback on close enemies on kill + a way to regen health pretty quickly

>>154043509
armor on kill*
it's ridiculous in close range areas, most enemies will be panicking constantly so it becomes seal clubbing essentially

>>154043639
Sounds good.

>>>/x/18100628

>>154041889
>rouge

>>154045630
its bad ok fuck

>>154045715
>rouge

>>154045370
was /x/ always just underageb& posting edgy shit and getting scared by entry teir creepypasta/not getting jokes or was it always like this
I confess to not ever going there since it's such a gay idea for a board but still how does such a cesspool come about like that

>>154045775
its bad

>>154045847
It used to be a legitimate board.

It's be /b/ 2.0 for years now.

>>154041661
>>154041889
>>154045715
>>154045893
>rouge
>rouge
>rouge
>rouge

>>154046836
its bad ok leave me alone

>>154041092
anarchist called

>>154008119
>calling a classic heist shit
kys

>>154047289
I don't know why I don't like using anarchist as much as I do ex-pres

clover porn
http://payday-clover.tumblr.com/archive
we need more

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>>154046836
Yes, Rouge.

>>154047804
give me sfm models then

>>154010567
>bain's chatter is actually useful
>heisters actually communicate with bain

what went so wrong in PD2

what is OVK's obsession with infinite coke cooking heists

why are there so many of them

>>154049995
easy to implement "extra objectives" into heists when in reality it's boring and uneccessary

>9mm guns can kill heavy duty armor
Fuck this shitty game

>be overkill
>program and code a game
>release the game and claim you can't program and code things in a game you programmed and coded
>make lots of shekels

>>154052274
Code rot + shitty engine + shitty programming language = the stuff of fucking nightmares
You COULD code it Anon, but it's the type of work that drives people insane.
t. SS13 dev

>>154052505
*t. almir

Most of the work in re-inventing the Payday 2 code would probably be in the graphics, not the gunplay/physics/heisting mechanics. Which sucks because it's a shitton of tedious work for a one-man job.

I mean come on guys, overkill is an indie dev, you can't expect them to do all that work

>>154052505
>t. SS13 dev
remove vox
REMOVE VOX
REMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE
VOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOX

>>154053078
You mean we can't expect them to work at all.

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>>154054348
Not before we remove skeleshitters and plasmemes

>>154047804
My man, anything more? Preferably straight stuff..

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>>154054709
you didn't already?
don't tell me sawbones is still buttbuddies with everyone in the admin team and is still forcing his terrible """"""""""""""""""""""funny""""""""""""""""""""" races in

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xth for making this part of our daily doses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5HygBlsl4U

>>154054942
No fucking idea man, haven't been there for a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ8K4QZnais

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>>154056707
last I was on it was buisness as usual with a little more waifufaggotry than normal
maybe I should go back and get into racial profiling again

>>154056880
I love SilvaGunner

get the f*ck up

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>>154059919
Arms Outstretched

>>154060145
HEY

YOU

GET ON YOUR FEET

>>154048401
that's the problem
the models were there alright,and i considered downloading them,but a few days later they disappeared

>25 posts in only 3 and a half hours
it's so painful to see this shit die

>>154063679
I thought the free weekend was supposed to fix this.

>>154063424
if they're gone from where you know i might poke around when i have free time and nothing to do looking for some or something similar i can edit

>>154065517
sfmlab
been checking for weeks and still no luck

I'm bored.

Anybody need help with a stelf achievement or some grinding?

Post ID or come into Steam chat if you do.

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>mfw AK/CAR mod pack achievements
>mfw all the parts are locked behind achievements

>>154067210
What achievements?

>>154067210
The only achievement that is hard is pain train. The turtle always wins is hard to do solo (can't ECM rush easily solo)

>>154067371
The hardest achievements are the ones that require 3 other people to do the exact same retarded thing with you

>>154067508
Yeah. You could try to see if there's anyone in the group chat that'd want to help, though.

>>154067574
No that'd be too easy

>>154067210
1.8m speedrun is easy. I haven't done the others, but if you're looking to do a few I'll give it a go.

Why does C4 seem not worth it?

>>154068553
C4 may as well be renamed Sensor Array and Shaped Charges at this point. You don't take it for the trip mines, you take it for the other functions and use the mines to help defend things like Big Oil day 2 powerboxes when things go loud.

>>154068553
because youll waste 12 mines on blowing up a single green and you cant carry 8 bricks of c4

>>154068838
>>154068867
I'm talking about using it as shaped charges obviously

>>154068996
They're useful for rushing things that can't be sawed, or that you don't want to saw. I bring them on things like four stores for blowing safes, or the aforementioned big oil to open the server room on day 2 (I don't normally bring a saw for that one).

Thinking about starting a new perk deck. What's a better one for STAELTFH? Rogue, Crook, or Burglar?

>>154069201
STELF only is Burglar

>>154069201
>stealth
Burglar is literally the only stelf deck.

>>154069201
take burger

>>154069467
>>154069535
>>154069646
thanks lads

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>the client gets notified that they were kicked a good half second before connection actually stops
Holy shit this is a trainwreck

>>154070114
What could they possibly do in half a second?

>>154070881
Anything.
Send permanent bullettime to every peer.
Crash the game.
What the fuck ever you can do with pasta perfagtion.

What's the worst meme weapon of the game ?

>>154071046
bows desu

>>154071046
The CAR. Used to be good, is now a legacy of eras past.

>>154069201
Back in MY day, all the stelf kiddos used ROGUE and not BURGLAR

>>154071094
hey fuck you man

I need 12 angry minutes achievement

>>154073457
solo or duo stealth it on hard up to opening the vault, then trigger the alarm
make sure you preplan the bus escape

>>154073457
Come to the Steam chat.

I have to go back to work soon, we can do it quickly. Under 12 minutes in fact.

What is the comfiest heist, and why is it Shadow Raid?

get the f*ck up

get the heck upo

FUCK ME, WE NEEDED THOSE DAMN COOKS

ah kak

THE KERELS

if not isGoodGoy(weap_mod.dlc) then

RIFLES, PISTOLS AND BULLETS

THIS WILL MAKE GAGE HAPPY

SUCK MY FAT DICK, CLOAKER

>>154079223
?????

>>154079284
SUCK IT GOOD

>have a literal phalanx of shields huddled in a perfect circle
>the ONLY thing they need to do is turn away to have complete shield coverage from all angles
>instead they all face the same direction, leaving 180 degrees of flank, and try to shoot through each other like idiots
The Captain's yells of "TACTICAL SPACING" and "YOU TRAINED FOR THIS" are a lot sadder now, imagine the whole purpose of your unit being defeated by retards every time
Kind of like playing with pubs, except you can't carry them and they make YOU look bad

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>try to rpg captain winters/swat turret
>mfw it doesn't do anything that an HE judge couldn't do

>>154079638
capn winters and swat turret have wonky fuckin damage reduction formulas applied to them that severely limit the effectiveness of shit like the RPG and the fiddy kal

>>154079703
which is totally retarded
it's a weapon with such a limited niche, why reduce its effectiveness even more

>>154079638
How many shots does it take to take out Winters and the turret with an rpg?

>>154079783
2 shots to pop off the armor

am I the only one that thinks they should add ammo mods for stuff that isn't shotguns
maybe those fuckin exploding raufoss rounds for the thanatos
or those super armor-piercing russian 9mm rounds for some of the pistols
and maybe something that will let the M308 pen tan armor or they could just move the M308 into the fuckin sniper rifle class already

>>154079746
People already use them too much, fuck off with your meme guns and stay the fuck away from my ammobags

>>154071046
Javelins

>>154071046
I think akimbos are shit

>>154079992
>he's never had the pleasure of screaming allahu akbar and nuking 2 dozers and anyone within a 12 mile radius

>>154080451
>allahu akbar
>when not even suiciding
poor display

>>154080614
but they scream allahu akbar even when not suiciding

also
>implying i'm not using a suit build for the express purpose of suicide bombing

GL40 needs more total ammo
It's been overshadowed by Piglet, China Puff, the RPG, Fully Loaded Ace, tripmines being separate from shaped charges, etc
Since OVK is too incompetent to change grenade damage the LEAST they could give the GL40 is more than 6 fucking ammo

>>154080958
>piglet
reload way too fucking long
>china puff
lower conceal than gl40
>RPG
no ammo pickups
>fully loaded ace
???
grenades aren't that good compared to gl40/puff puff
>tripmines
can you shoot a tripmine into a shield/dozer's face? hint: no

fully loaded basic helps with the ammo slightly, and you should have plenty of ammo for it if you ace fully loaded and run around

>>154081201
piglet holds 6 at a time though the reload isn't even a problem. you can fire a couple shots then go hide and reload

>>154081261
The reload is the biggest problem with the piglet. It's 14 seconds for a full reload, 4 seconds for one shell. It also suffers from lower concealment as well.
The GL40's reload is a flat 3 seconds. There's not many situations where you need 6 shells ready to go, and the downtime from the piglet is pretty bad in that regard

>>154081201
>if I conveniently ignore all the massive advantages all these options have over the GL40 I can pretend like it's not comparatively UP
Why?
Who benefits?

>>154081560
The only thing that is actually a straight upgrade for armor builds over the gl40 is China puff.
Everythimg else is situational, or its severe downsides are being ignored

>>154081771
>or its severe downsides are being ignored
Or you're ignoring their massive upsides you tard
Oh gee one extra second reload time, this weapon sure is a situational sidegrade
Except not because six fucking mag size and faster consecutive reload means you will spend that extra second somewhere safer or you may even spend less time reloading and OH LOOK 3X TOTAL AMMO
I WONDER WHICH ONE I'M USING

>>154082031
>3 times total ammo
but thats wrong, it only has 12 total ammo

its not worth trying to change your opinion since youre already so adamantly against anything that could, and in most cases does, make the gl40 advantageous to the piglet

>>154080958
GL40 is a stellar primary and much better than all the shit you listed.

More total ammo might be nice but there's nothing wrong with 6 as it is.

>>154082458
>doesn't name even one example
:^)

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>>154082601
but i did and you chose to ignore them

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>two gage packages next to each others,

I'm starting to think the devs just don't care at that point.

>>154082581
>GL40
>"much better" than China Puff
What did he mean by this?

>>154082695
Having a slightly shorter individual reload time than the grenade launcher with infinitely more flexible reloading is barely a trade-off and absolutely not better "in most cases"
I don't want the GL40 to just be the shitty bootleg-but-concealable grenade launcher, especially because it's such a pretty weapon

>>154082704
>Not when you disappeared and crashed the game for everyone else

GL40/China Puff for low detection (SB/LB) builds. Also you can't really argue which one is superior considering one is a primary and one is secondary.

Piglet for any other build.

Case closed. Piglet is the number one choice if you are not worried about detection rate. Yes, I am aware the reload speed takes forever but in a tight situation, being able to fire multiple grenades back to back (Piglet) instead of firing one then having to reload (GL40/China Puff) will always be more effective.

I SURE HOPE THEY WEREN'T GIVING THIS MARCHING POWDER TO OUR BOYS

>>154079849
Not him but what about HE rounds?

>>154043639
Alright after playing with it for a few hours it is pretty fun to use.

Ideal team perk deck setup is
>Grinder/Rogue/Crook
>Maniac
>Gambler
>Anarchist/Muscle

>>154084857
>Rogue
>Rogue
>Rogue
>Rogue

I would love for Maniac to receive a slight buff

>>154085282
It had one when turrets were still viable.

Now they're both shit.

I'm r/OutOfTheLoop I haven't played in a year can you do an AMA and ELI5 why I shouldn't run a 40 damage breakpoint turret maniac proc build

>>154082704
Big oil, next to the cosmetic weapon case. There's a possible two package spawn.

>>154080958
Grinder benefits a lot from gl40 if you want to use incendiary grenades instead of regular ones

>>154086787
40 damage is not the worst option for ovk, but you can easily get 80 damage 96/100 acc/stability primary.

Turrets now take both primary and secondary ammo so it's basically worthless now.
I think Maniac itself is fine if you are gud

YEAH

>>154083121
>firing one then having to reload (China Puff)
what did you mean by this

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>>154082945
>driving part begin all nice and smoothly,
>end up crashing after a minute on a pile of junk so badly i end up out of bounds for around forty seconds,
>wake up stuck in the floor of the club, without being able to move, quitting being the only possible solution.

>>154095393
>police ass

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Anybody have any weapon recommendations? I've been running the Kross vertex/china puff and Breaker/AK rifle most of the time lately, could use some refreshment.

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>>154097783
>running

>>154097904
proc

>>154097783
Crossbill with the jungle suppressor and bling grip, can't go wrong with that.

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>>154098423

HEY YOU GET ON YOUR FEET

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I'm about to try to do the blow-out achievement on the first payday, any advices about not to suck ? Also are melee kills allowed ?

Why are all these FAK faggots so godamn retarded and never give it out to others. Like you have to threaten them to share a piece. Then they finish the heist with like 10 of them left...

>>154104790
They are retarded and don't know how to use them correctly and give real FAK users a bad name which leads to NGBTO retards banning FAKs from their games. If you don't pre-place at least 3 FAKs in the objective area at the beginning of the heist you aren't getting the full benefit of them

Tito Dick "Dickman" character pack when?

What causes the game to not start even though everyone has ticked ready

>>154107363
Swedish quality coding

>>154107363
Someone joining, but you can't see them yet
Also this>>154107589

350th for consolefags being on suicide watch right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZPM3kkxkIE

>>154109006
>consoles

I mean, kudos to overkill for actually giving a shit, but consolefags pls

>>154112352
Psshhhh, nothing personal goyim
it's just another market to get our shekels from