/tf2g/ Team Fortress Two (2) General

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rate my anime scout

>>153970354
ok

>>153970410
that was really nice
i dont deserve this

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who is missing from this list

http://pastebin.com/S4QZuDX8

>>153970848
I am

>>153970848
so am i

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>>153970848
me too

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http://pastebin.com/WLHXpbxe
>26dollar: internet relationships alone are gay as fuck

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>>153971205
>posting DMs
literal scum

>>153971205
who cares

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Tell me /tf2g/, why don't YOU have a horde of Dueling minigames in your inventory?
>$0.04 for 5 uses
>Get to humiliate bottomfraggers
>Announce to the whole server you are, undoubtedly, a topfragger
>True topfraggers get 10 uses for $0.04, twice the value!
>Free drops just for being a topfragger
>Gives you an exclusive topfragger badge
>Exclusive hat for the best topfraggers
With Dueling Minigames, there's never a dull moment!

>>153972040
because im not a tryhard like you

dude dont just copy paste your stuff
that's boring

>>153972040
because I'd rather spend that scrap to make refined for silly hats.

Post weapons only you think are good.

I'll start:

>The Scottish Resistance

>>153972385
>The Third Degree

>>153972385
>>153972480
who are you quoting thoughhhh

>>153972578
myself

>mfw playing cs with RL friends
>mfw its the worst gaming experience i have in weeks
why do people take this game so seriously

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>>153972694

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https://tf2center.com/lobbies/748845

>>153972385
I think Scottish is good too and I assume Valve will nerf Quickie sooner or later.

why do scouts basher themselves at the beginning of mm every time like you need to build when everyone is rolling out

>>153972385
Amputator

is quickiebomb a good sidegrade?
i think its pretty alright where it is now, being able to set up traps from a long distance, but not being good for direct combat
though i do find the charge rate a bit too fast, 75% faster is ridiculous

scout is the best class in the whole of the tf2 universe if you don't agree you're dad is gay

>>153974574
which dad ?

>>153974735
that was funny

>>153974735
the masculine one

>>153974735
had a giggle. I like you, Anon

>>153974735
haha! you win an internet cookie, good sir!

>>153974735
xd

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*jump from a high counter*


I'M GAY


*proceeds to laugh*

>>153974938
>>153975152
>>153975314
>>153975383
im happy people like my posts finally

>>153975606
Shut the fuck up.

>>153975606
not funny anymore

>>153973451
>language is spiccish

move to a first world country

oh wait you can't because of the wall

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>>153975453
Hey, that loadout is pretty good.

>>153975836
The Great Wall of China?

overwatch is dumbed down tf2 and tf2 is dumbed down quake

>>153975968
well, china doesn't have any shit skin Mexicans, maybe trump is on to something

>>153976074
i swear if quake champions is going to be a dumbed down version of overwatch im quitting videogames

>>153976097
Well what wall? Not the Berlin wall, that went down almost 30 years ago

Which wall? There are none

I didn't realize I was browsing /pol/.

>>153975836
im not from shitmerica
dont plan on moving to the garbage continent anytime soon

post all class loadouts

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>>153976402

no don't

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>>153976402
Any improvements I should make?

>>153976074
yeah but dumbing down quake a bit to make it more accessible to a larger audience was a good idea and worked out well for TF2. Bunnyhopping isn't exactly an intuitive mechanic, and to be honest I don't see how performing it is superior in terms of fun to just having faster base movement speeds.

I'm happy with TF2's position inbetween retard OW and skillful Quake.

We still have a higher skill ceiling (reward for skilled players and exciting potential) than OW does, but a lower skill floor (a barrier to entry and thus new players) than Quake.

>>153976504
>using the same effect on multiple classes

>>153976596
delete myloadouts.png from your computer

>>153977067

please do not try to fill the void with drama thank you

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>drama
LETS GET RIGHT INTO THE NEWS

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>>153976615
>I'm happy with TF2's position inbetween retard OW and skillful Quake.

That's exactly the problem that will prevent this game from being fixed ever. You can't fix tf2 and make it fully competitive unless you fundamentally change the offclasses into something entirely different. Hear me out.

6s is basically quake with loadouts and objectives. Soldier, demo, and scout all have very quake-esque gameplay or 'DM'. Pyro, heavy, engineer, and to some extent the spy all have very little DM elements to them. The heavy moves too slowly to really dodge damage (a fundamental aspect of quake gameplay) and his minigun is super easy to do massive damage with (doesn't have to really aim, a fundamental aspect of quake gameplay).

The offclasses are closer to overwatch than quake in terms of gameplay, and the power classes are closer to quake. So if you 'fix' the offclasses and make them more DM-reliant, then they won't play out anywhere near like they used to, and that would piss off the people who play that class.


The engineer takes a ton of time and protection to set up a nest. But when he sets it up, it's like a fortress that slows the game down. The engineer is not nearly as reliant on movement or aiming as the powerclasses. If we wanted to make the engi viable for 6s, you would have to basically halve the build time, health, and damage of his buildings, and give him something like +50 health. He could use his buildings for tactics, but would (and could) get in the faces of his enemy, using his shotgun to out-DM them like a slow scout but with +50 health and buildings.


The problem is, the engineer """mains""" wouldn't like that, and it would be so different that they would hate it at that point. Same thing with heavy, make him faster, require aim, but have less health and the heavy """mains""" would lose their shit.

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post your american men
>inb4 generic as fuck

>>153978308
why do you people insist on creating the worst loadouts possible
I mean your cosmetics are fine, but ditch the rocket launcher and shotgun. It looks like complete shit and just makes you an eye sore

keep with the color scheme nigger

>>153978308
if you know how shit it is, why do you use it?

>>153977971
>engineer """mains""" wouldn't like that

>valve added a weapon that makes the Engineer's sentry gun have less health and DPS but increased Engineer's health
>every Engineer uses it so they can finally compete as a DM class
>every other class whines until it gets nerfed

>valve added a weapon that let Heavy play more re-actively at the cost of DPS
>every Heavy main uses it so they can finally play aggressively vs. faster classes
>every other class whines until it gets nerfed

the problem is that comp players are so resistant to change, we'll never see any fixes to balance because it goes against what they know how to fight

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>>153977971
It was all good and cozy until
>Heavy
>(doesn't have to really aim, a fundamental aspect of quake gameplay).
>not aiming in quake
>a fundamental aspect
Do you even have stable plasmagun, lightning gun or rocket accuracy in Quake to type this bullshit?

>>153978598
I think it's at least worth being brought up. Something like a nerf to the gunslinger's minisentry, but making it give you +50 health instead of +25 would do wonders for the class, as well as giving engineer a +25 health buff overall.

Basically engi would be a soldier with a minisentry/tele/dispenser instead of a rocket launcher, which is fine imo

>>153974735
fuck!

>>153972385
Panic attack

>>153978756
if you honestly think the minigun is difficult to aim? Maybe for scouts trying to jump over your head, but a rocket launcher is waaay harder to shoot at a scout jumping over your head than a minigun

I thought you left /tf2g/ FUNKe

>>153977971
Anon you responded to here
>So if you 'fix' the offclasses and make them more DM-reliant, then they won't play out anywhere near like they used to, and that would piss off the people who play that class.
Easily solved by just giving said classes different unlocks/tweaking their existing unlocks. The pub class mains are happy because they get more playstyles, the competitive players are happy because of a higher skill ceiling for said class, everyone wins.

Except for Pyro, I think it could do with its primary fire on stock to be more similar to the Lightning Gun (more range less width), making the class more difficult to play, but more powerful in the hands of a skilled player. I don't think too many skilled Pyro mains would complain a higher skill ceiling on their primary fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rVhUdCYA1w

>The problem is, the engineer """mains""" wouldn't like that

>and the heavy """mains""" would lose their shit

no need to be so derogatory anon, not everybody wants to play scout/soldier/demo. TF2's different classes provide different experiences to cater to a wide range of tastes, and this is one of the reasons why the TF mod took off so largely from Quake in the first place. Elitism and divisive behaviour won't help TF2 grow as a competitive game.

>>153975606
fuck off (you) attention whore

>>153979201
>if you honestly think the minigun is difficult to aim?
They're not entirely hard to aim with, but 90% of the people who blabber this, generally can't aim straight with Miniguns. When asked they only seen Heavy mains making it rain.
I'd rather not compare them two weapons because I know how hard it is to keep a good accuracy at medium-long distance. Still, RL have blast jump and height advantage at open areas and great mobility.
For Heavy, you're alone and at disadvantage unless you have a Medic up yer butt. Even with that, you can't still do anything noticeable to airborne targets that are too close at all.

>>153976615
>B-hopping isn't an intuitive mechanic

for retards maybe it isn't, but I picked up on it rather quickly

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So, that Scout VS Tracer battle happened...
Paste this into link:

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into here:

https://www.hlsplayer.net/

So, did the results surprise anyone?

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>>153980498

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>>153978308
GOD BLESS AMERICA

will valve ever fix the glitch where the mistaken movember is invisible?

{spoiler]will valve fix anything[/spoiler]

>>153980472
I mean, like, it's in no way obvious to a player that jumping while moving the mouse in a certain way will increase your speed.

It has to be explicitly explained and learned from third-party sources. There are no visual cues that tell you "I can do this to make myself go faster", and it doesn't make any kind of natural logical real world sense to a new player.

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>>153978308

>>153970848
Once know as defensive horse

>>153980498
this is some fnaf-tier autism
why did you link this here

>>153981740
Overwatch got stuck with it. I was just trying to be fair.
Unlike this video.

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>>153980152
the pyro should get a plasma gun, not a lightning gun.

Shooting out multiple projectiles would do a lot to fix the bugginess of the flamethrower, and you could have the projectiles disappear

The heavy should get a pseudo-lightning gun that decreases in accuracy for his minigun. Increase the DM capability, you know?

>>153982957
except the minigun would slow him down, so a lightning gun isn't exactly the same as a minigun

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>>153977971
>You can't fix tf2 and make it fully competitive unless you fundamentally change the offclasses into something entirely different. Hear me out.
Sniper is legitimately the only truly intolerable class in TF2. It's not a matter of finding some magical "skill" threshold between two games (especially considering how Overwatch wasn't even a concept when TF2 was well into its player-established comp phase), it's a matter of making everything work in line with the primary combat fundamentals of TF2: get in close and put yourself at risk to deal damage.

Within the context of 6s:
- Heavies are focused into oblivion very quickly, but if there are attacking team misplays or the heavy player just knows where to be and what to do while being supported by the defending team, a post-last-push/post-uber fight heavy presence can be enough to secure the defenders' last.

- Engineer sentries are relatively fragile, they do typically need to operate in relatively exposed positions for maximum area coverage effect, and the engy really does need to be in a risky position to consistently repair it. Given the time investment, having a level 3 prepared on last in order to defend a push is a relatively heads-up play despite how much it can slow down a game. Moreover, when the sentry dies (which is expected), that engy now swaps back onto Scout/Roamer and needs to perform as such in the attacking team's post-uber.

- Spy needs to melee in order to be at optimal effectiveness. Even though the class provides an invisibility gimmick, surmounting the risk/reward is a legitimate commitment on part of the operator.

- Pyro is primarily a sac used to stuff ubers rather than serve as a true last-defense class like a heavy or a stock option. It's more or less a side-grade to Engineer except that the pyro player can remain on the field to some effectiveness if he lives into the post-uber (somewhat like the Heavy).

There is zero danger or commitment to Sniper.

>no raffles

Why is neo tf2g so awful?

hey guys, i didnt see any posts saying this so daily reminder
TF2 IS DEAD XD

>>153983121
Let me explain

When not shooting, the accuracy increases. The spread grows when firing, it shrinks when not firing. When you stop spinning the minigun, the enemy knows you aren't shooting to get a better position or conserve health. But if you stay revved up, you're putting yourself at risk to take more damage and stay in the same position, but you are able to fire sooner.

Each time you fire the minigun, it becomes less effective at range, which will reward heavies who smartly use their minigun. A lot of DM potential.

>>153983269
so basically everyone can just stop shooting every 3 seconds while remaining revved up to conserve accuracy?
sound pretty broken imo

>>153983269
What's to stop people from tapping?

>>153983412
not shooting for 3 seconds just to be a little more accurate than the current minigun isn't exactly a good move.

And if the damage is too absurd, it can be decreased. It's the priniciple that counts

still though, if you think not shooting for 3 seconds during a big fight is a massive downside

>>153983516
the accuracy decreases faster than it increases. For example, it takes 2 seconds of not shooting to cancel out 1 second of shooting

and it should reward good tapping, on who to tap, when to tap, and how long to tap

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http://steamcommunity.com/id/FriendzoningMisandrist/

lets play

>>153983157
A big problem with this though is that the power classes have mobility. Each of them have some method of getting across the map with extreme speed.

And how would you fix sniper? make his headshots do 125 damage far, 250 close? I would actually like that a lot, and make heavy a 250 health class

;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6LlRjblCuI

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>>153984141
I would honestly outright remove it from the game. Headshot damage reduction is a possibility, but it would have to be honestly somewhere around 100-110--and even that would be pretty bullshit. Every class at sniper range deals chip damage, so it's easy for Team A to gain ground if nobody on Team B is going to commit to a counter-push or hold. Inflicting a random 100-125 damage on someone who is getting ready to make a move forward is automatically going to take that person out of the fight. Even at a full buff, there's no way a class is going to feel comfortable taking a fight if they lose a random 100-125 right off the bat for literally no fucking reason aside from walking down a sightline that otherwise would yield maybe 30-60 spam damage in a bad spot. After taking chip damage, 100-125 can even be lethal. There's no justification for it.

Giving sniper actual fall-off would be not a bad idea--certainly better than nothing--but I think ultimately it should just give a 4-clip medic crossbow. Honestly, people don't respect the damage that weapon can inflict at long ranges. If there was a medic with a 4-clip crossbow running around the field with no responsibilities other than dealing damage and filling chokes with 70-damage projectiles, it would be a very powerful class given its distance from the fight. However, because it's a projectile, enemies can still at least play chicken with the sniper that way.

>power classes have mobility
They still move slow as fuck compared to Quake which, by the way, featured a rail gun that wasn't necessarily guaranteed to instantly kill someone with a single shot.

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Tea eff too:
>Pyro
Buff Backburner (slightly) and Detonator
>Heavy
Buff Tomislav
>Engineer
Buff Gunslinger and give it a new dispenser/teleporter to compliment it
>Sniper
Nerf DDS and make him extra papery so he's still at-risk when holding from spawn doors
>Spy
I dunno make him run at Medic speed and give him a watch that lets him press m2 to get away from anything oh wait

>>153984518
it really does feel like the last insomnia for tf2

>>153982957
Smart-ass Q3A player here.
>plasma gun
Fast beater misille weapon. Have range but shit at long range besides suppression fire. Devastating at medium-short range if you know how follow, engage and lead the shot.
>lightning gun
Beam type; cousin with hitscans but connects even faster but lacks range. Goes spaghetti with small twitches if you're pinned or not moving.

Are you really sure that you wanna give Pyro, a Plasma Gun? Because Flamethrower works like PG, but with short range already, getting LG would be an upgrade.

>minisentry has no build time
>-1 damage per shot
>no longer knocks back
>fully healed when picked up

yes/no

how do you convince a spy and a sniper to switch classes on mvm?

>>153986116
>>minisentry has no build time
>>fully healed when picked up
why this

>>153986141
Votekick the Spy because he's an idiot

Play a round with the Sniper and if he doesn't have LMAObox installed votekick him because he's an idiot.

>>153986141
You queue in with 4+, hit them with an ultimatum, and kick them if they don't

>>153985672
the pg is regarded as the hardest weapon to use in quake as well as one of the most under-utilized. Rewarding good aim is not an issue in my opinion. The rocket launcher kills scouts in 2 shots, less than a second, but requires aim, right?


And I think increasing the minigun accuracy in general to be more akin to a lightning gun would reward good aim. A slow moving, tanky lightning gun user would be fun.

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>>153986141
let them play a round as whatever they want
if they perform well, let them play whatever they want

also
>implying sniper isn't the best MvM class

>>153986914
a 2 tour sniper isn't
and he was using the bazaar bargain too
he also bragged about his points

>>153985114
Every class has some exploitable thing though.

>soldier has direct spam power at chokes
>demoman has direct spam, traps
>scout has constant mobility and damage avoiding

sniper has to have some use

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post yfw you get fragged by the enemy soldier

mfw no face

>>153987150
Sniper doesn't need to exist if its only current use/function is basically just direct spam except it's more powerful than every class' respective direct spam power combined.

Give it the med cross bow. Same stats. No healing. Make the shots pierce targets. Four shot mag. Sixteen carried. Give him more support secondaries or huntsman options afterward. There are already custom options too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOhT7n28Y88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn79gFTu3-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AxbW6ldkH4

Stuff like that. More jars if you want too. Sap/goo or some shit which slows targets. Low duration and low cooldown.

So I haven't played in years and the casual matchmaking takes a longass time. Is it because I'm low level or is the game deadish?

>>153989367
It's kind of deadish especially at this hour. Casual matchmaking is also a mess of skill levels and comp make-ups because it features no whitelist or class restrictions. I'd stick to tf2center honestly. It's about the same level of grab-bag, except you at least get to work with a player-established comp mode rather than valve's game.

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I thought the fixed this

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>>153990292
And on top of that, I've had funnier pubstomps on tf2pickup.net
this is just fucking sad

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I just want valve to care about this game and make it good. It was just a mod for quake and it was fun, but then it got full development and just had so much magic to it

And after 15 years that magic is just gone, and each time I think about modern tf2 I just get depressed

>>153990795
Everything has to die at some point anon. Its best to just accept it.

>>153990868
I'd rather let it die in stagnation than make stupid decisions to cause it to hemorrage the playerbase out of it
At least you'd have fond memories of it, instead of the bitter aftertaste of knowing that one misstep was the cause of its sudden decline

>>153991482
kind of hard to pin point the misstep.

Was the gold rush update? the introduction of hats? Or was it the introduction of unlocks?
Maybe it wasn't the introduction of those things, but later the start of their abuse?

I think that it would be better if TF2 had skins and not hats, so that there was preset outfits instead of mix n' match tomfoolery. Everything should be consistent with the art style, and the silliness really ruined the atmosphere of the game

>>153989112
How about it just slows a target down with a limb shot?

>>153991985
Slowing needs to be heavily culled in a game like TF2 (or shooters in general). Natascha is anti-fun for a reason.

>>153989112
>>153985114
this posts are always annoying to read because they aren't realistic in any way

Do you actually think valve is just going to remove the sniper rifle from the game and give sniper something else? It's going to crit on a headshot, and it's going to charge up after being scoped in.

It's redundant to theorycraft about shit that will literally never happen and pretend like it's the solution.

>to fix the soldier, we should remove his rocket launcher

that's what you sound like right now

>>153991698
the problem with skins was the conflict with a distinguishable silhouette, which was stretched out pretty hard by cosmetics, but never truly overridden
The decline started after the peaks of mannconomy and mann vs machine, from there on until 2016 all the major updates brought if not peaks, at least a stability in the number of players over the week of their deployment
come 2016, and the playerbase starts following a decreasing trend
Did the MYM update help at all? no, it stabilized the number of players over the trending line and now we're back to the downward slope the game was in before

I'm still salty about the quickplay removal desu

>>153992060
>Natascha is anti-fun for a reason.
Yeah, for the Heavy.

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>>153992504
>Did the MYM update help at all? no, it stabilized the number of players over the trending line and now we're back to the downward slope the game was in before
>I'm still salty about the quickplay removal desu

This. Valve fundamentally does not comprehend what makes the game enjoyable or fun, because the people who work on TF2 don't -play- TF2.
This is an important distinction to make, because it better illustrates the issue. It isn't incompetence, it isn't laziness or mistakes, it's ignorance.
All they had to do was keep quickplay normal, and make Matchmaking work. It didn't need fancy animations any of that bullshit, it just needed to work. And after 6 months of beta 'testing', what did we get?

>Everyone stuck at fresh meat. Bellcurves are concentrated at the middle, not the very bottom.
>Leavers making the whole match not count
>people connect after 3 minutes, then disconnect, then reconnect within 3 minutes

Is it really that hard to just look at dota 2 and say "oh wow their system is fucking fantastic let's see why"? Does it really take 6 months of beta testing to tell you that your product is shit?

You guys want to know WHY tf2 pros moved to overwatch, as well as youtube personalities? Because those games cater to the playerbase actually

>>153992504
see, the only person working on tf2 is a potted plant

but the plant was moved to the dota 2 office space to freshen up the air

>>153992105
>to fix the soldier, we should remove his rocket launcher
The sniper rifle is the only weapon in the game which features hitscan that has no damage falloff and can instantly kill any class from infinite range. The rocket launcher conforms perfectly to all sort of TF2 combat fundamentals. When most effective, the rocket launcher is a melee weapon. The sniper legitimately goes against everything that every other class does for no reason other than flavor. It could easily be removed and the rest of the classes would form a very cohesive combat formula.

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Valve's not going to waste money trying to compete with overwatch. They'll sprinkle some half-assed updates to solidify the current playerbase and let the game stagnate.
If you really enjoy the competitive gameplay of TF2, look into quake champions or diabotical, and hope those games won't be shit

prove me wrong

>>153993682
diabotical is to round

got more pics form the last insomnia event?

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yeah

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crows before interview

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sideshow

do you think tf2 will ever see i61?

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i dont know
but even if i61 doesnt happen, this community will make something else happen, im sure of it
and i say community because its pretty clear barely any corporation or company gives any support, including valve

i hope they do

also,
>>153994325
>>153996047
does b3nny play guitar?

>>153995789
some folks were talking about setting up a second international LAN around Nobember every year, similar to the i-series.

>>153996221
yes he has a beautiful gibson explorer and hes pretty good at it t b h

>>153998743
any vids of him playing?

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eu drama

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>>153998997
E U D R A M A

i was thinking
since its common to have 2 scout 2 soldier 1 demo 1 medic in 5cp, would changing the mode to koth for example would also change the team structure?

>win a match with 20 points
>500xp
>lose a match with 113 points
>a voucher you can mail to valve to get 1xp in 2-3 business days

>>153998778
check his tittwer
>>153999085
lmao thats a shame
wasnt full tilt 2nd place? why would they disband after such a feat ?

>>154000442
his what

>>154000613
>he doesn't have a tittwer account

>>154001147
umm

>>153999850
no, comp players are autistic and hate change

>tick a bunch of maps including upward
>next map: upward
>next map: upward
>next map: upward

i swear this map is going to make me vomit

why cant we just have quickplay instead of this shit

>>154001917
At least it isn't fucking pipeline.

"Let's make a map that is one long corridor"

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>>153999850
koth is already played in comp
theres just not many good maps for that mode
its more noob friendly than 5cp, simply because shitters get lost in 5cp or take a full minute to find mid

>>154001693
It's less about autism and more about how nobody likes playing a map where sniper can carry so hard so easily.

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Isn't this just the cutest little thing?

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>he plays competitive MvM

>>153996047
who is the short guy
why is he so short
he looks kinda cute

>>153994165
which one of these people is half left

>>154002717
i dont know !!
the bald guy is "get a whale" thats all i know

>>154001917
same deal with gorge and any payload race map

I have lots of maps ticked but no, it must send me to fucking plr_nightfall or gorge

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>>154002579
>he plays with shit weapons and think that he have skill

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post comp stats

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>yfw still no Pyro content update
>yfw still no Heavy content update
>yfw still no new hybrid classes as Ms.Pauling and Zhanna

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>>154004610
ms pauling would probably be just like spy
she would have a silencer on her pistol

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>>154004468

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>>154004468

>>154005024
>>154005170
What's "mumbility"?

>>154005324
its the amount of times you have not joined mumble in a mumble lobby
basically blocks you from playing in mumble lobbies i think

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>>154004826
More like a hybrid between Spy and Scout. Zhanna would be something inbetween a Heavy and Soldier.

>>153972832
>why do people like games that I don't like?
Gee I don't know anon, maybe different people have different preferences.

>>154005381
Ah okay. Thanks anon.

Does this game have illuminati

>>154006405
yes

hey
is now a good time to go online and discuss drawing related thingies
it's 5:30pm around these parts i think it's late enough

>>154008582
dead thread eh?
i'll be back in a couple of hours

>guy picks heavy
>immediately says someone go medic

>guy picks spy
>immediately asks why we have 4 spies

i miss drawings

>>154010764
>he doesn't go medic as soon as he sees there isn't one

True pleb

>>154011310
I don't want to play medic in every pub server though

>>154011431
There is a medic more times than not these days I've noticed. Casual has really shown lesser skilled players how important having one is. There was never a med in quickplay, there is always one in casual.

Hell go to a 24/7 Badwater and you'll see at least 3 per team.

>>154011590
People definitely seem to be more focussed on winning these days.
They just need a better team balancing sytem and an option to stay on the same server to make casual queueing better than quickplay in every way.

I think I play better without the crosshair! It's amazing!

I highly recommend playing without a crosshair now. Use "crosshair 0" in the console.

>>154011260
whats the appeal of spy anyway, people keep playing him and sniper

i mean sniper is the kill everyone across the map class which makes him appealing to newbies but spy cant do anything and requires a brain (something newbies dont have)

>>154011778
I stand by my words that casual is a great idea because it encourage people to play the objective, they just need to refine it more. can't the just copy paste csgo's casual system?

>>154012204
It's a unique class. How many other FPS's are there that have a gameplsy style that allows you to turn invisible, instakill all enemies from behind and disguise as members of the enemy team?

>>154012204
Spy is probably the worst class in the game and without the DR would be worthless. If the DR wasn't hilariously broken he would be even worse.

Anyone with more than 50 hours is going to recognize and deal with a spy fairly easily. Anyone who willingly plays that useless fag is a write off for me. At least snipers can stop their snipers from picking me.

Everything he can do, from taking out sentry nests to flanking low health targets is done better by some other class.

how do i disable dead bodies

>>154012845
play medic

haha

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>>154012204
When on offense, Spy is the second guy who can get you out from a spawn camp clutch besides a proper Medic. So it actually can serve team in a way.
Sniper is only intimidating on defense at the open, and that's totally depend on team's Engineer doing area and Pyro doing line defense, more than the player accuracy.

tl;dr: They're setup or team dependent classes that can be useful but generally picked for "tr0o sk1ll2 MLG l0n3 vv0lf" shit.

>>154012845
cl_ragdoll_fade_time 0
cl_ragdoll_forcefade 1
cl_ragdoll_physics_enable 0
g_ragdoll_fadespeed 0
g_ragdoll_lvfadespeed 0
ragdoll_sleepaftertime 0
cl_phys_props_enable 0
cl_phys_props_max 0
props_break_max_pieces 0
r_propsmaxdist 1
violence_agibs 0
violence_hgibs 0

>>154012884
I genuinely smiled

>>154013478
idiots going spy because they dont know how to deal with spawncamp is actually the worst thing that can happen
the best thing to do is build uber in spawn or use a pyro with airblast to make space

>>154013786
im using rhapsody how do i get these into the autoexec?

>>154014047
open autoexec.cfg with wordpad
press Ctrl+B
type each command (for example cl_ragdoll_fade_time)
change to the value in the post (0 in this case)

>>154014047
>rhapsody
It's a bit outdated mate.
Comanglia's config is where it's at these days.
That being said just do >>154014114
Or just paste that shit at the end of the autoexec, kind of a hack job because the options are changed twice but it will work anyway

>>154012204
because a knife that can kill anything in one hit sounds overpowered if you don't know anything about the game

speaking of configs, has there been a good replacement for chris' configs? I'm still using the dx9 one

>>154014114
>>154014223
thanks
comanglias config didnt work earlier for me,ill try installing it again though

would valve hurry up and add class limitations and add a class queing feature

>>154014979
Stay in your hugbox, 6's meta baby.

>>154014979
Class limitations? you are just part of the tf2 patriarchy
you 6s elitists only want to opress the freethinking TF2 playerbase with your elitist meta!
im sure if 3 heavies was allowed in comp leagues everyone would run it and be very happy to do so!

>>154014645
>didnt work earlier for me
Does the game not boot up at all or what?

pubs that complain about the 6s metagame are like crazy feminists that get triggered when the best person gets the job instead of a woman

>>154015250
the problem with TF2 is that its the complete opposite of the CS community when it comes to knowledge of whats actually useful

whereas in CS nobody will question that AK, M4 and AWP are the most useful weapons, most pubbers in TF2 have no idea than scout, soldier and demo are the most versatile classes
(and barely any pubber has any idea how to play demo other than demoknight or just spamming pipes randomly)

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>>153978308

>>154015140
>>154015142
6's would be a stupid official format it leaves classes out, highlander 9v9 would be the best you casual fucks

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what does this say about me?

>>154017250
that you're a newfag

>>154017250
no skill and high functioning autism

>>154015158
i probably messed something up with the installation because the game kinda changed but not by alot,the frames stayed the same

>>154017241
6v6 doesnt leaves classes out
you can play any class you want
im pretty sure there isn't any league that dictates "you must have 2 scouts 2 soldiers blah blah"

you are free to participate in ETF2L 6v6 or other 6v6 leagues using perma engineer or perma heavy and it wouldnt be against the rules

seeing sniper plays or other offclasses in 6v6 is much more fun in 6v6 since its not actually like in highlander where you know there is ALWAYS one of each class

>>154012096
u sure

>>154017241
HL is for players who are bad and can only play one class well
6v6 lets you switch classes whenever you want

>>154018683
I guarantee your aim will improve and your special awareness will improve ten fold.

>>154018683
>>154019042
It will force you to rely on viewmodel depth perception, it's great for stuff like demo pipes and somewhat scout up-your-bum shooting, but it's terrible otherwise, it'll shift your focus off-center and wreck your other classes hitscan
Except for sniper, the class is meant to be played without a crosshair

Its been a while since I picked this game up (around when they released the soda popper gun). How has the pyro changed between the patches?

Has he gotten better or worse?

>>154019724
Pyro is better, but Scout has also been buffed so Pyro is still useless.

>>154019817
BUffed how?

ask me how good my eyesight is

>>154019724
flamethrower is more unreliable than before, guisher now mini-crits instead of crit, flares have been "fixed" so you can't immediately fire them by switching weapons with M1 down, airblasting projectiles is more unreliable than before and it's not uncommon to see projectiles be reflected right in your face

BUT WE'RE GETTING A CHARACTER PACK IN THE NEXT UPDATE THAT WILL NOT FIX ANYTHING OF THIS
AHAHAHAH

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>>154019993
it's 20/20! haha

mine is okay too

my mom wears contacts

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>>154020134
Well that's OK I guess?
I mean, my left eye is 13/10

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https://docs.google.com/forms/d/10rSjiK3xMcxhtIA3MxwqvE_A657CBy5g8hD-jB33mzA/viewform?edit_requested=true

apply if you haven't already
things:
freddy - reapply with some other way to be drawn
renard - neppie and drawings didn't apply but i thought of something
sops - pinto didn't apply but i thought of something
fish - gasol didn't apply but i'll think of something

other things:
i need pictures of pintos whacka
someone who's friends with sol that isn't pinto or renard because they're taken

>>154017495
Ye, it's not like it's a completely new config, it changed some things around and has a nicer formatting, but mostly it's the same.
If it doesn't change your FPS just stick to what looks better to you

>>154020091
>airblasting projectiles is more unreliable than before and it's not uncommon to see projectiles be reflected right in your face
Literally the opposite

>>154020801
Did they fix it? Because in May up until June, that was the case.

think of me

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the cuban bristle crisis pops to centre when you dance for reason, it looks like hes trying to suck cock

>>154021019
Before both enemies AND allies did that.
Now only enemies.
Given that the biggest problem was you trying to protect teammates by staying near them and airblasting shit away they fixed the biggest problem, they may implement it to pass enemies too but we'll see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ-d4oUSVzE

>>153973451
i never understood why in pointlists they give 3 points for building a building, and 3 points for losing a building, if youre going to give -points just to make it a net zero whats the point

just dont give them points for building in the first place

>>154020091
fuck off jackass

>>154019724
Pyro is roughly the same, Degreaser was given a nerf, so you can't puff n sting pyros anymore, and it now takes 25 ammo to airblast

Phlog is just as shitty, Axetinguisher is still full crits on burning players but now has a -75% switch to speed.

Stock now gives 20 health for putting out burning teammates and is still inferior to the Degreaser.

are you guys talking about tf2 again
how boring
dont you ever get bored of it

i am boring

yeah
me too

>>154021429
well, i'm fucking glad the fixed that shit

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>>154023149
>sniper
>skill

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9PfUhepolw

>>154023643
who are you quoting

>>154001693
>WAHHHH MY SITUATIONAL CLASS IS SITUATIONALLL COMP IS RETARDED!!!

Passable barriers that can let physics projectiles through, but not hitscan weapons

Yes or No?

>>154002717
paddie. he's friends with a few old tf2gs

Reminder that L4DMvMfags idea of fun is playing against bots and the reason they don't like comp is that they would never have the balls to fight in equal conditions against equally skilled players

>>153993682
This one looks legit and is not another class based, also james is going to try making a new warcraft to.

>>153996047
Well payload was a community map and is pretty fun, hopefully someone will came with a fun concept and will make the game relevant again.

who else playing /competitiveMvM/ here

>>154025013
>>154025324
Where i can play this? Also it can work in official maps making people able to win/losee a round and then going to the next wave, no matter if robots wins.

hating viva is an old meme

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Janitor keep deleting my posts but not even ban me. What is wrong with you man? You don't like tripfags which can't speak english as good as other shitoisters?

hello
reminder
>>154020671
>>154020671

>>154025809
Stop being a filthy slav.

>>154025809
(psst)
(you're not allowed to complain about that stuff dude)
(delet this)

>>154025197
mode where pyros work correctly CX

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>>154025951
Im okay with being a filthy slav.
>>154025995
Ok, where can i talk about that stuff? I want answers.

>>154026046
you can complain about it in >>>/trash/tf2 im pretty sure
just read the rules

>>154026128
Um i don't really like trash thread. I prefer stay here.

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I love the pro tf2 community but I also utterly despise it. It's so resistant to change of any kind at all, yet it never stops bitching about the stagnation of the game.

You know how it's wrong to want change simply for the sake of change? Well it's also retarded to hate change because it's not the exact same thing you have right now, then bitch about the poor quality of what you currently have.

Quake champions might be shit, it might be great, who knows. But the quake community isn't infuriated by the special overwatch-like abilities, they're treating it like it'll be team arena. They're not sure it'll be good or bad, but they're ready to try it out and can see the potential of it.

When the fucking quake community is more willing to change and cooperate than us, there's an issue

>>154023349
i was just in a game with zert the guy who arrows him

>>154026280
It's like an island of stability, at the beginning you're barely over the sea level, but then you change you're position to another nearby island and then you're safer from the sea level rising, and over time you brought yourself over a zone where there's a little hill, but the surround zone is garbage plain, and now that the sea level has risen you're stranded in a tiny island and the places you were before are now underwater, and if you want to see more land you gotta swim a long ass distance, and maybe get stranded somewhere even worse

That's the nature of competitive multiplayer games, if you are left stagnating you're gonna drown, if you change in the wrong way, you're gonna drown, and looking for more land to stay on for some time becomes harder over time

satorn is in aprils top 10

>>154023349
are you the same peter that keeps trying to get into 4cc high command and keeps getting told to fuck off

>>154005170
>>154005024
>he unironically takes pride of his tf2center stats
>tf2center where everyone pretends to be a tryhard and no one plays seriously
lol

>>154026868
Some people play seriously.

>>154027028
not that many
even pug.champ is fucking dead

seagull was that popular when he streamed tf2? or they are just viewbots?

>>154027380
mostly viewbots back then, but then he picked up a lot more people on overwatch

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>want to play cp_process
>can't

removing quickplay was their worst mistake to date

>>154027635
>click casual
>deselect every map but cp_process
>wait 30 sec-1 min
>play on cp_process

now was that so hard?

>>154027635
just queue for process fuck brain

>>154026280
>resistant to change
what do you mean by this
ETF2L tries new maps every season or so, for good or bad, and updates the whitelist wich has been extremelly open for the last few seasons

im looking forward to quake champions aswell but i dont trust id software much

>>154026868
whats wrong with playing in tf2c
you can project all you want but its still better than MM in every possible way and the fastest way to play 6v6 for most people

http://bazaar.tf/profiles/76561197996718813

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how 2 not be shit @ scout

>>154030276
reduce your sens

>>154030421
1.5 sens 800 dpi
isn't that low enough?

>>154030495
no
lower

>>154030512
ok any other tips

>>154030589
stop playing videogames and do something with your life

>>154030671
but i already do things with life
i've played around 350 hours since gun mettle

>>154030161
happy birthday

>>154030746
that's nice

>>154030807
thanks

hello

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reminder #2
gonna head out now
>>154020671
>>154020671

>>154030761
hey retard

>>154030979
can you post the list of the people who filled it?

>>154031190
i made this one last week
if you've got anything else make it quick

>>154031258
do NOT post names

>>154031974
what do you have to hide ?

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>>154025809
>shitoisters
>shitoysters

>>154027635
i guess they will eventually add a maplist to choose from like in csgo, once Beta 2 is over and MM actually works

>mfw expected comp update to be at least somewhat close to csgo quality
>mfw valve broke my already low expectations with their update quality

i seriously have no idea why CSGO gamers complain so much
TF2 is the one being buttfucked by valve constantly
>replaces quickplay with a non-tested casual gamemode
>literallly didnt put any thought into what would happen if people left the server
>literally didnt put any thought into how big of a deal the removal of quickplay was
>probably thought the community would suck their dick for adding this badly coded casual that took 15 minutes to find a server or more in the first few days
>comp mm invalidates the whole match if just a single person leaves 10 seconds before match end

>>154033105
cs community is a bunch of crybabies that think his game is the best because muh skill ceiling, i like both games

>>154033309
skill ceiling of a game = how high you can rocket jump

>>154033514
With gunboats you can jump high

>>154028308
>queue for lobby
> lobby quickly fills but medic slots
>200 na/eu online
>wait at least 30 minutes
>medics finally join
>EVERYONe ready ups
>scous sollies or some demoz forgt to queu up
> wait for missing class
>one medic leaves
>other medic fills fragger spot
>wait another 30 minutes
>repeat until death

i rather play unbalnced matches than wait like a fukin faggot

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we made it boys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_jumping
best rocket jumping mechanics and air control in any videogame ever (for now)

quake has some cool rocket jumps but theres barely any air control and the jumps feel stiff

>>154033768
>i have to stare at the lobby page for the entire time
>i wont do other things while the lobby fills
go mge or whatever
worth the wait
i would rather play tf2center than MM even if i have to wait 1 hour watching youtube or whatever

>>154033936
how much of a no life do you have to be to be ok with tf2c queu times. The pro community must die and a new one must rise. A new pro community that actually represents tf2 as a whole

>>154034220
>that edgy response
allright honey, thats a very interesting idea but maybe you shouldnt watch so much anime
dont stay up late tonight!

>play scout
>topscoring
>scout on the enemy team is pretty good
>theyre losing pretty badly but he somehow manages to still wipe the floor with me

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
there goes my confidence for the whole week
i wish i was good at videogames

>>154034556
godly scouts like the australians are such a fucking frustrating thing to deal with
i get so pissed sometimes i think about hitting my mouse but then remember im poor and hit the table instead

>>154026280
The problem is that TF2 COULD be an amazing multiplayer game, and the competitive community has tried so hard to make that happen, despite the obscure unbalanced items valve kept adding, and the zero support from valve compared to other games. We were all expected to move to overwatch, but that game is garbage. Most of us will likely go to Quake Champions, or Diabotical.

whats the best TF2 team in the world in:
>Gamesense
>DM
>tight playstyle
>open playstyle
>best offclassers

Weird question, but is there an ideal loadout for each class?

>>154035250
australia has good scouts?

>>154035713
>Gamesense
Crowns, since they have kaidus on comms.
>DM
Jasmine Tea
>tight playstyle
Crowns i guess
>open playstyle
FROYO
>best offclasser
Starkie in crowns

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what does the russian say

>>154035780
godly DM scouts
remember seeing one of the guys from iM playing every now and then in tf2center and he was a god with 300 ping in EU servers

i wonder if there is a tf2 team with players so synced with each other they barely need to communicate
that would be hella cool to watch
like one giant player consisting of 6 small parts and each knows exactly what the other is planning to do

>>154035907
it says meet the heavy

>>154035753
scout: stock, stock/winger, Boston basher
soldier: stock, stock/gunboats, escape plan
demoman: stock, stock, Scotsman's skullcutter
medic: crusader's crossbow, stock/kritzkreig, ubersaw

every other class use stock

>>154036075
demo usually runs pain train tho

>>154035753
Not NECESSARILY but there are weapons that are less useful or situationally useful e.g. force-a-nature, direct hit, pain train

http://www.strawpoll.me/11169519

>>154036607
i wish i knew who these are
got any highlights

>>154036680
Paulsen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsjPO9FjCCU

Spudd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzaPHVISkA

I literally cannot find any highlight from muma but he had the 3rd best K/D ratio of all players in i58 - 1.97 KD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81_gHvcT3Hg
close enough

>>154037026
muma only had a good kd because he baited his team all the time. Everyone would be fighting for 2nd or whatever and he would just be running away.
b4nny wanted to cut him mid lan

>>154020671
feathers could go with sol

>>154037154
do you have more info? i want all the juicy details

>>154037608
all I know is bren said in the stream that a "reliable source" said b4nny was looking for someone to replace muma during the first day of i58
not much juice to be found

calling it right now
dd5f will be invite in two years
screenshot this

*screenshots that*

i haven't played this game in a long time, is it worth coming back to for matchmaking assuming i have friends to play with?

>>154038708
gunmetle balanced the game but they still need to fix the game

>fragging in casual
>kid kills me then taunts
>notice he types le lennyface in chat whenever I die
>I don;t respond because im not an idiot
>goes on the whole game but he only killed me once
>round end with him on the middle of the scoreboard and me at the top
>go to the kids profile
>see that he has screenshots bragging about going 20kills and 8 deaths

now I just feel bad for the kid :/ he probably looked up to me.

>>154039081
why are you so mad

>>154036075
soldier's whip is pretty usefull for pushing, or atleast for non roamer

>>154039081
seriously dude chill
it isnt healthy to feel this mad about being beaten by a kid

When will quick fix not be shit

>>154039408
its banned in comp yo

>>154039081
omg you are so mad!!!!! get destroyed you scrub

>>154039408
when we go back in time and it's the only medigun that lets you run at scout speed

scattergun for mvp all other guns should be banned from competetive

im lvp

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mfw competetive

>>154039242
>>154039386
>>154039604
did i just get p0wend?

i heard update this is taking place
is this true

MMMM BOY

been sitting on some haunted metal for years, should i make the hat or get the axe

i play demoknight a lot but i hate the eyelander and one can never have enough fun hats