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Elf Edition

Previous Pankonator >>153793539

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee
>Jump into MP feet first
>Do not bully Elves

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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1st because this thread has the better OP picture
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Worth summoning?
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Well, it's over.

Graphs, if you're interested.
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>>153952070
Joined as Mictlan.
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5th for sneks
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>>153969740
>That last sentence
Okay, how powerfull are the Kami she attracts?
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Person who has 3 candles in 121 - is that your cap?
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>>153970557
Mages
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>>153970839

So it is an excellent sacred H3 mage that freespawns other additional mages.

I'm going to go with "Yes".

What is that even from? Magic Enhanced?
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>>153970710
Actually, I can see that it has full scales, so it has to be.

Anyways, I won't be taking 114, of course, but I would like to take 119 and that crossing area (113-96).
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>>153971119
Yes.

Also, in mountains, she gets Mori-No-Kami fo FREE. Those guys are amazing thugs/light SCs and RoS casters, given that they have high prot and ethereal built in.
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Can we replace Marveni? Stale and not a word in the threads.
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>>153971305
Sorry, Yama*-no-kami. Mori-no-kami are the forest dudes.
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>>153971428

Probably one of the many anonymous REEEE BADMIN shitters who seem to be convinced that the admin getting changed out is a conspiracy.
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>>153971686

Game runs on a 36 hour timer. Ain't nobody got time for stales.
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>>153969740
Is that reimu
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>>153971941

It doesn't have lifeless undead, so no.
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>>153972064
Reimu is not a zombie
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Reminder to scrubs who are afraid to join multiplayer games that pic related exists, so you have nothing to worry about.
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>>153969740
>freespawn mages
yes
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How's the UWbowl going?
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>>153974076
delayed due to scleria fucking off, thankfully a Y's sub was found
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>>153973646
KEK
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>>153971941
Her name is CLEARLY Natsumi
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>>153974076
I'm about to pick a fight, but everything got postponed.
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What's better for an F4 (well, F3+phoenix power) mage, one cast of Living Fire or 2 casts of Summon Fire Elemental?
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>>153962252

>also any must have mods please

Awful Nations is fun

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2932
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>>153975338
anyone?
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>new olathe turn out

wew lad, sceleria came back early
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>>153975338
>>153977341
I'd say getting four size 4 fire elementals is better than two size 6 elementals, especially since it takes only one turn to cast living fire.
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>>153975338
>>153977341
Probably living fire, but as always it depends on what you're facing.
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>>153978421
Really? What does it depend on? I can't think of many things that can trivially take down a size 6 fire elemental that can't also take down a size 4 (or, for that matter, anything that has trouble with one having less trouble with the other)
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>>153975338
I can't think of any situation where the big fire elemental would be better except in rare cases where you need the extra 6 damage on the flame strike, which doesn't happen often in situations where fire elementals are good (clearing out lots of skeletons, for example)
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On the sheet listing the win/loss of nations, wtf does the highlight mean?
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>filthy land nation taking muh UW
Bats need to get the fuck out.
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>>153978510
Summoning the size 6 elementals causes less fatigue, so your mage can get more evocations off once scripting ends. In magic scales you could even get an extra size 6 elemental, but I'm assuming he's limited by gems since both cases have the same gem cost.

You also would want the extra damage against troops with fire resist and decent protection, though as >>153978524 says fire elementals are a poor choice for that situation.

Size 6 elementals should be more resilient to enemy evocations. 2 size 6 has about the same amount of total hp as 4 size 4, but there are less of them to get hit at once by AoE effects.

Most of these are pretty situational, but I could see them being important for a battle.
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>>153979612
Living X is more for caster SCs like kings or pretenders since they can spam it every turn for minimal fatigue.
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>>153979609
Hi rlyeh.

And hi Xibalba too

I wonder which one of my neighbours should I be friends with.
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>>153979753
Living X is amazing on basically anything which can cast it, even if it really shines on high-path mages.
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Wailing Winds is enemy only, right? That's what it says in the spell description, but I wanted to be sure.
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What's a firenigger to do?
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>>153980392
Embrace the suffering
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>>153980514
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>>153979848
H-hello.
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lately i've grown into the strategy for most of my nations to not get any mages for the first 8-12 turns or so, and just focus on expansion and getting quick 2nd fort

how bad is this
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today I will remind them
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>>153981261
Extremely bad, I will be certain to rush you if I ever run into you.
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>>153981261
>>153981414
Not that bad. I actually tend to not get any mages until turn 6-8 unless i'm really getting a lot of gold.

But turn 12 is probably too much.
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>>153979612
How does the heat aura work? Does the number represent fire damage, the radius of the effect, both, or something else?
Also how do temp scales effect it? And is the effect additive or multiplicative?
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>>153978109
Did a double too
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Xibalba, are you here? It would be great if we could talk about borders.
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>>153981261
It's acceptable if you have a very strong earlygame. Otherwise it's way too risky.

>>153983002
Strength of fire/cold auras represents the AoE, but it's number of squares affected (like AoE spells) rather than a radius.

Damage is fixed, I think it's 5 heat/cold stun damage. Multiple auras can hit the same square in a turn though, so large groups with heat aura will cause fatigue very fast.

As far as I know, temperature scales don't directly affect the auras. However, the auras can cause freezing/burning, and stronger temperature scales will cause those debuffs to last longer. Additionally, many units with heat or cold auras have other properties that make them perform best in their preferred scale.
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>>153981261

Incredibly stupid, unless you are one of few nations with stupid expensive mages. I could see Hinnom/Garth not recruiting mages a turn or two to afford their mega castles. Everyone else should at least get their cheaper researchers up to keep your research rate rising.

If you literally need every piece of gold for expansion then you have A. failed your expansion game or B. are a nation that requires an early expander.
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>>153984016
Or a nation with mega sacreds
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>>153984016
or C. Are getting HUGE
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>tfw I am preparing massive attacks in every game I'm in
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>>153984581
"Massive attacks" is my default state.
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too late idiots

BoT going up next turn
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>>153986143
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>>153970221
Joined as Sauromatia
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Mari, pardner. This isn't funny anymore.
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>>153989950
>Fist
Pretty badass desu.
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>>153952070
>Story events on
Is it intended?
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>>153989950
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>>153989950
>Jaguar Tribe Priest
105 gold
>Arch Angel
0 gold

Looks like a victory to me.
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>>153989950
>shield of gleaming gold
>on a unit with +6awe
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>>153979609
This is the only direction in which I can expand, thanks to an air mage province and a throne. Sorry. Don't start a war over it, please.
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>>153983193
I just got home, and need to bed before work. I'll chat with you tomorrow.
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>>153990220
yes
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>>153991459
Oh, also heavy cav. Fuck this expansion so hard.
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turns?
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New Domg game up, for LA with summod. Looking for up to 12 players, on Realm of Roaring Cave Rhinos.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=RealmofRoaringScrubs
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>>153994578
Also one more needed for this game -
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ToDistractYourselfFromLifeProblems

EA summod, WH, 2 province start
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You know this might sound strange, but anyone else feels like the map is different in the latest turn? Like I distinctly remember sending my scout North-East but he's South-East.

Or maybe my memory is fuzzy since I had to wait more than 48 fucking hours for the first turn, thanks Pelagia.
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>>153997019
My turn looks fine.
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>>153997019

Don't worry about it.
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Do your turns
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WeWuz is a retarded game, because retards everywhere.
Ermor is wonnabe ISIS shitter, has no chances to actualy win the game, but since turn 15 spreading his cancer everywhere.
Mictlan is quadblessed (in MA!) idiot, considering his Scales(lol) BoT killed all of his lands and he can produce like 3 sacreds per turn or 2 sacreds and 1 mage.
Pelagia fighting the whole world by now, because he is agressive retarded newbie, unknown to magesupport, despite having one of the best strategic dispositions (the map itself preferable to UW nations) and considering Ryley AI he could have done good.
Really, I have forgot that /domg/ can be so scrub-tier. Even if I'll win this game, I won't be proud about it for the slightest.
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>>153997019
>Pelagia Waiting for 2h file

SERIOUSLY Pelagia?
You can't do a double on TURN FUCKING TWO?
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What was that about me losing 50+ bats for every one of your sacreds, monkey? Well, to be fair I'm not in your territory. Yet.
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Yo Shinu I notice that some of your provinces bordering mine have been taken by Ermor for quite some time now ,and I notice that you haven't taken them back. I'd rather not Ermor have any more D so I'm gonna take them with a raiding party that's on its way towards Ermor. Feel free to take them back whenever you want.

Also to the guy who sent me gold for D gems, how many do you want/you consider worth? I'm not exactly an expert at appraising jewelry. If you want to keep your identity secret just identify yourself by the last 3 numbers in the sum you sent.
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>>153997772
>double

Anon he didn't even do a single.
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>>153998002
wew
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>>153998002
Well then.
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>>153998002
Want to restart the game with Pelagia removed?
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>>153998116
I want you to restart the game with MAH DUBS!
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>>153968983
Im gonna buy this game, as i have realised its probably capable of filling the empty voids in my life.

Anyways, which one should i go for ? Dominions 3 or 4?
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>>153998498
kill yourself
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>>153998512

4 obviously. Nobody plays 3 anymore really and 4 is pretty much 3 just with more shit.
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>>153998512
4
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>>153998512
If you lost a leg and had a choice of installing a modern prosthetic or a wooden peg leg, what would you do?
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>>153998570
>>153998616
>>153998672

Alright, im getting 4.

Is this game enjoyable singleplayer or is this the type of game that should be played online to get the most enjoyment out of it?
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>>153998672
On second thought, 4 is just a better peg leg, to be honest...

Still, go for 4 because it has people who play MP.


That reminds me, how about a Dom3 MP game sometime?
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>>153998729
It's a MP game that has a SP, but the AI is just as bad as that of any other strategy game
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>>153998729

Both. Enjoyable in single player especially if you like messing around with self modding and roleplaying. Really enjoyable in MP as you can tell by this thread.
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>>153998729
Play SP until you get a hang on it. Well... Until you think you get a hang on it. Then join some shit anonymous game ITT (they're full of scrubs) or a noob game in Steam group.
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>>153998545
Pft, coming from a Fail-Trippper? I think Not.
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Game has started

Good luck

Post problems in-thread
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>>153998729
I usually play SP specifically for RP purposes. For instance, I am currently playing a game as Hinnom on Archaea, and am having a blast trying to take over the world and releasing the Lords of Civilization. I love Deathmatches, also.
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If I am storming a fortress, will forces moved into the fortress territory come along for the battle? Or will they just sit there since they did not have the "storm castle" action?
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>>153999846
Only units with the 'storm castle' order will storm the castle.
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>>153999886
Thanks. <3
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>>153997837
Well, those sacreds aren't going to be much used if they aren't blessed, which they weren't since you assassinated my prophet.

This is also a PSA: Bats have that thing running around, just saying.
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>>153970058
I consider surviving until the end a minor victory. Nazca fought well, but I'm the one who lived to see the ascension.
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>okofire AI'ed after losing a single battle

it's like pottery
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>>154000481
>awake assassin pretender
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Quick question regarding gems and cast boosting

I give the mage a gem, tell him to cast a spell 1 level above his path level, and he casts it with the gem, correct?

Does he get the fatigue as if he were the proper path level or is it double fatigue?
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>>153998512
don't join too many matches. 4 is already a lot.
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>>154000879
should be proper path level fatigue.


as far as i know a mage can use up to one gem to either halving fatigue of a spell he can cast or cast normally a spell he is one main path level away from casting.

regardless a mage can use only a number of gems equal to his current main path level.
this mean that if a spell require death level 4 and 3 death gem, a level 3 death mage can't cast it because he would need to use 3+1 gems.
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>>153994578
I'm pretty fond of LA. I might join soon.
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>>153997837
>>154000481
Wouldn't those auto-rout due to the commander being dead?
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>>154002856
Yes, I looked at the battle now and the lack of bless wasn't even the issue, the sacreds autorouted immediately.
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Huh I didn't know even units can get titles like that.
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>>154004116
Think there's two total titles like that they get from hall of fame. Either be on top of it or have the most kills in it.
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>tfw you pull a typical elf invasion without being elves
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Any new games starting soon?
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>>154005082
>>153994578
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>>154005112
Let me restate that question, any new games starting soon that aren't LA?
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>madman decides he should be a prophet
>now I have two prophets

Not bad.
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>>154005206
Have you ever gone into late game with R'lyeh?
You can easily end up with a prophet for every province.
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>>154005387
Good luck managing to get them TO every province, mind you.
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>>154005406
True, I mostly meant an equivalent (or greater) amount compared to the number of provinces rather than actually organizing them.
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>>154005206
Speaking of madmen can someone explain the insanity/sanity mechanics to me? I mean beyond the in-game description? Or can I find it in the manual?

Some tidbit about the reincarnation shit I see on monkey nations would help too. Dominions is pretty cool, making so many mechanics and attributes that are only ever gonna be used by a single nation. (Like the philosopher trait that only exists on one unit) Most devs wouldn't put that much work for so little reward.
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>>154005598
RE: Philosopher, two units actually. That I know of.
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>>154005387
Yeah been in proper lategame in 1, maybe 2 depending on your definition, but this is way earlier than I've gotten one in all my other PBEMs. It's nice for spreading my dominion early, though it's going to be a pain moving him to the right place.

>>154005598
Insanity(x) means he has x chance to just disregard your orders and do his own thing. It can also ignore some restrictions, like the restriction of only having one prophet at a time.
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All this R'lyeh talk reminds me, how do you fight LA R'lyeh?
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So, uhh... Man apparently decided to attack me with those guys instead of eating AI Arco. Despite the fact that Arco has a province in his cap circle. Despite the fact that he has S4N4 bless.

So yeah.
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>>154005941
You don't.
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>>154005941
You leave his useless ass alone and go rush thrones.
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>>154005941

You bog him down and piss him off until he quits like a little bitch.
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>>154005987
Dude just cast burden of time man, you can trust me.

>>154006092
Pls no bully.
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>>154005987
He's making a sound choice. Besides he could eat Arco as a side dish.
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do your turns
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>>154006092
How do you bog him down? Limit him to the water?
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>>154006459
Mictlan and Pythium will kill him as they killed him before.
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>>154006312
>>154006471

Really, it was a jab at Lambert and him and me fighting it out back and fort in the water plane until he decided to quit.
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>>154006534
All the better for other nations in the long run, like mine.
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>>154006464

awoo~
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>>154006698
This new awoo looks different.

Did the old one die and did you replace it thinking I would not notice?
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>>154006624
I'm equally happy regardless of who dies. If Lemuria dies, I don't have to worry about UW ghosts, if Lemuria wins, there is a better chance of him casting some cancerous global which I don't mind at all in the future.
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>>154007297

If Lemuria wins and start eating his neighbors then you and everyone else loses just like they lost last time.
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live
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>>154009536
I don't want to.
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>>154009536
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please don't die i need you bby
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>>154011078
You tell that to every general.
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Xibalba, are you here already?
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>>154011764
Pls kill Xibalba he's unlawfully interfering with #UWBOWL.
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>>154012056
>Not wanting more contestants
Are ye some kinda pansy?
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>>154012179
You're not an #UWBOWL contestant if your capital is safely high and dry.

#UWBOWL contestants have 2 provinces to expand each, while land provinces have 10+. If you just want to be a dick and beat everyone to take their capitals for free that's one thing, but if you want to have #UWBOWL you should stay the fuck out of the water until there's only one man left standing.
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>>154012369
Clearly the solution here is to push xibalba into the water.
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>>153994578
Joined as Lemuria.

What version of Summod is the "Summod latest"? I'm not 100% on this but wouldn't that mean someone has uploaded a mod file called "Summod latest", which might not be the latest anymore? Or is it an option Llama has added?
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>>154012489
He's already doing that on his own.

Pushing him into the water isn't the issue, pushing him out of the land is.
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>>154012547
That's what I mean.

Take everything but his capital and UW provinces, and let him UWBOWL with the rest properly.
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>>154012534
It's not a new llamaserver feature, just somebody being really dumb with their naming.

"Summod latest" is 0.66. It's currently the most up to date version, unless sum1 released 0.67 while I wasn't looking.
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>>154011764
>>154012369
>>154012547
>>154012607
If he is okay with it, I can do this. Good Romre gets his land provinces but his cap as a tithe, then he can join the UWbowl and have fun with the others.
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Game: JustMAgame
Turn number 4
Next turn due: 02:46 GMT on Wednesday September 7th

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>Ermor Waiting for 2h file
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>Abysia Waiting for 2h file
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>Man Waiting for 2h file
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Mictlan 2h file received
>Midgard Waiting for 2h file
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>Xibalba Waiting for 2h file
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What bless works best on shikome and tengu? Or should I just thug out the bless?
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>>154013648
W9 maybe? Dunno.
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>>154013648
Blood minor is very desirable on Shikome. Water bless is desirable on both Shikome and Tengus. However, there's also Dai Oni to consider and the best bless for them would be N9 and ultimately it's not too bad on the troops either.

If you thought about the troops alone, you'd probably want W9B4 but N9 with a couple of minors might also be worth consideration. I think Yomi in Sansmemes used something like N9B4A4E4 with Idol of Beasts and it seemed to work out fine but there are many approaches you can take to Yomi bless and indeed the scales (for example, Yomi is hungry for money and can't really use Oni for assaulting order nations anyway so you could even go Order yourself).
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>>154014450
Why would you want B4?
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>>154014824
Strength bonus is very good for units with lots of attacks.
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>>154014945
2 is not lots.
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>>154013648
For Shikome I'd go with W9. Maybe Blood, but B9 isn't great for Yomi and W9Bx is quite expensive for them.

As a bless I prefer a simple N9. It's decent but not great for your Shikome, but its far better for thugging Oni Generals and Dai Oni. You can get an N9E4S4 Monolith and still have decent scales (especially since you probably want T3 anyway), or an A4E4N9 Idol of Beasts with the same scales and a slightly easier time summoning Tengu without help. Personally I'd go with the Monolith since I'm not a huge fan of Tengu, and even with the Idol you'd still have to wait until year 3 before it wakes up. Through N magic you can get A access in mid-lategame anyway (Fairy Court) if that's your goal.

>>154014824
The more attacks you have, the more valuable a strength bonus is since it's applied to every attack. Shikome don't have huge damage, but at 6 attacks per square + quickness bless + strength bonus, they can be quite effective.
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>>154015145
It's double that of normal units. Triple if you took W9.
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nothing feels better than taking your turns
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>>154015954
do you want to feel a lot better than that?
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>>154016053
no, get out you fucking weeb and get some social skills
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>>154015145
Size is also important.

2 attacks on a size 2 unit is about as high as attack density goes in dominions, at least for normal troops.
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Have you ever been genuinely horrified by what happened when you loaded your turn?
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>>154016098
>>154015954
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>>154016158
Not really.

Though I have had some games where I opened my turn, stared at the screen for a few seconds, and went "welp, might as well just go AI right now."
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>running T3L3
>turn 2
>An unexpected has occured in the capital.
>A vengeful crone has cursed the land!
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>>154016197
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>>154012369
The only reason I went in that lake is because unless I go through that lake, I only have three provinces that aren't 1.) Thrones, or 2.) Mages+ heavy cavalry.

I'm not being a dick. I literally have no other viable path for expansion because the map didn't remove shit starts.
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>>154016474
B-but...
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>>154016461
What really pisses me off is when your dominion are spreading, for some reason it seems like T scales always spread faster than L scales, so you end up with half your provinces being like T2L0, and then you get one of those shit events that give misfortune and oops suddenly you're T3M3 and it's going to be one shit event after the other until your scales finally catch up.
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>>153994578
>>154012534
Actually, I want to try using the PBEM manager so I created a new e-mail account for this purpose. Can you remove Lemuria such that I can join from new e-mail? Sorry about the trouble.
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>>154016739
Also, the lake is only connected because the badmin uploaded a last minute version connecting the lake to the sea, doubly fucking me over.
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Is there any spells(for any nation) that you consider be essential to help expansion?

Rushing a certain summon, or lightning bolts, or something, to help your expanding armies win more easily and expand faster
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>>154016739
>>154016870
Can we talk already?
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>>154016870
If the admin didn't connect the small lakes to the big one, Ys would be 300% fucked right now.

Some sacrifices have to be made since the map simply wasn't designed to have 5 UW nations.
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>>154016935
Not really, you expand with soldiers while your few mages research. Though, you may want something against some indies, like undeads. But you should be able to expand with your armies and maybe your awake pretender without getting mages on the field.
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>>154016935

Blessing?
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>>154016935
Nah. There are spells that are vital for transition into midgame for some nations though. Like skelespam and t-strike.
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>>154017116
Undead are piss with d2d if you have D.
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>>154016935
Not really. I tend to rush Ench2 for Personal Regen if I'm running an awake expander with N, though. Or some early spammable spell (like Phantasmal Warrior for A mages) to give your mage-leaders something to do instead of running into melee.
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>>154017030
Yes. Do you have a proposal that isn't "lol I get your land provinces"?

>>154017068
Ys would be less fucked, since they'd be able to play normally without being adjacent to actual uw nations.

That said, I'm aware that changes were necessary to get uwmemebowl. That doesn't mean players weren't fucked over by them.

Now, if by "some sacrifices have to be made" you instead mean "lol no expansion for you", that's not going to fly.
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>>154017513
>if by "some sacrifices have to be made" you instead mean "lol no expansion for you"
You mean like it is for all the other nations that are UW?
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Game: Nagot_gick_fel
Turn number 23
Next turn due: 03:54 GMT on Wednesday September 7th

Arcoscephale 2h file received
>Atlantis Waiting for 2h file
C'tis 2h file received
Helheim 2h file received
Lanka 2h file received
>Pangaea Waiting for 2h file
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Ur 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received
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>>154017513
Well, that was a meme, do you even understand jokes?

I have been trying to talk to you since yesterday because the water province you too this turn borders many provinces close to me.

Maybe we could talk about which ones does which of us take, or wait until we clash and kill each other.
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>>154017990
I responded to you earlier today saying i was interested in talking. I am still interested in talking. What is your proposal? You know where I am, but beyond your coastal provinces, I have no idea where you are or where you need to go. Please be aware that at the moment, though, this is my only viable route, so I would appreciate it if you left me some living space.
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>>153997857
Bringing attention to this in case they missed.
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>>153997857
Shinu is dead.

You're next.
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>>153997857
About 10 per gem is right.

Number is 250.
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>>154018818
>10 gold per magic gem
>mfw that scrub will even believe it
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>>153997857
My sub lost a lot of my combat mages, don't fear, my HIGLY CRIPLED god is back allive.

Watch this space.
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>>154018336
I didn't see that other post, sorry.

I totally understand it, can we talk in the steamchat?
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>>154005987
Read the fucking messages, faggot. I have no intention of moving beyond that ridge, but i need the ridge to establish a solid border defence against your bullshit.
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>>154020324
There was a province before the ridge that had TWO CONNECTIONS. You could've forted it and nothing would've happened. But no, you had to be a fucking dick and take MY province with a library, and then make up lame excuses.

Either you fuck off from this province or it's going to be war. That library costs more than your pathetic life.
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>>154020306
Cool, but the positions aren't right.

Clockwise starting from the top it should be something like Pelegia, R'lyeh, Ys, Atlantis, Oceania. With Xibalba on land northeast of R'lyeh.
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>>154020440
>with a library
Man, you're keeping that province and you're going to LIKE it. Lemuria is not allowed to have sages under any circumstances
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>>154020440
>Coolstory diplo at it's finest
THIS IS WHY WE WERE BEING ATTACKED BY EVERYONE IN THE TEAMGAME
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>>154020542
Thanks I don't have any scouts down there yet. I will fix in the next edition. From Agartha's pretender name I might have to add them next time too.
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>>154019680
I'm sorry, I don't have steam access. Got this on desura, and I'm on a mobile anyways. Email me at [email protected].
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>>154020576
Try to stop me and see what happens. But you won't because you're probably on the other side of the map.

I'd care about a person on the blood plane if I were you.

>>154020601
Success breed jealousy.
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>>154020440
Will provide aid to keep library out of Ghost hands, tell what gems you need.
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>>154021000
Oh, just stop it, guys. Man has AI Arco in his cap circle. His fate is to be eaten by someone, maybe even the AI.
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Alright, i am 80% out.
couldnt assemble enough sibyls to shut down the Fog Warriors. Probably should have gone with double magicduel on those, but being a Jew i am, i just couldnt part with those precious pearls.

Also, this army was sieging my cap, and moved to army that was coming to lift the siege.
Was this outcome guaranteed, or i actually had a 50% chance to have the battle occur at the capital with my fort army being able to join? With a bless on all those sacreds and a bunch of extra mages, i could probably have dealt much more damage.
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>>154020601
>telling a person who takes a valuable province from you to fuck off is a bad diplo
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>>153991459
You could have manned (batted?) up and taken on that heavy cavalry.

>Don't start a war over it, please.
I'm not going to do that now. I have actual fish to fry.
But this has to go two ways. Stay out of the big pond.
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>>154021202
I'm not sure what you're asking, but movement always happens before fights. If you move to a fight and break siege at the same time, the two forces should always fight together.
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>>154012534
>Joined as Lemuria

Every fucking time

Is it too much to ask to just once play a game without a cancer nation? I bet you're even one of those assfucks who will cast BoT/Foul Air when they've only got their cap left and then ghost up.
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>>154021820
I know that. But what happens if we are moving into each other's provinces, and does the presence of sieged forts have any effect ont hat?

The Pan army was moving from Gath to Wastewatch.
My army in Wastewatch was set to move to gath. My Garrison in Gath was set to Break Siege.
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>>154022020
I haven't played Lemuria before
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>>154020758
Okay, I sent you a message.
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>>154022253
Why start now?
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>>154022237
Larger army pushes the other back
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>>154022253
That's every fucker's excuse

I haven't played Lemuria before either. You know why? Because I don't WANT to be the cancer.

Reeeeeee
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>>154022598
Huh, now that's big news to me, as i just assumed it was random.
How is "larger" calculated? Simple bodycount?
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>>154022598
>>154022237
The larger army usually* pushes the other one back, but yeah
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>>154022668
I played Lemuria once and didn't cast BoT.

I did however get the shit knocked out of me by a Ragha/Atlantis tag-team.
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>>154022378


Did i get rused? I'm getting no answer.
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>>154022539
Because it's a nation that plays in a fairly unique manner and I've already played as many other nations in LA and the ones I haven't played just don't catch my interest (say, Pythium, an uninspired and impotent nation).

But if you're really so upset, I might consider switching to something like Caelum once the admin removes Lemuria from the game (as I want to join from another e-mail account). Although then there's the chance someone else takes Lemuria (and looking at recent LA games, someone always takes Lemuria) and odds are they are the turtling not even trying to win type of player.
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>>154023008
I'm in chat
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You don't need to beat every nation in the game to win a game.

Thus if you can't handle getting the thrones with some fag sitting in his own fort with 2000 ghosts not doing anything, then you don't deserve to win.
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>>153994578
>already joined 5 games
>still bored out of my mind since I'm at turn <10 in all of them and some of them take a full 24 hours ( holy fuck Pelagia I swear if I find you I'll skin you)
>want to join more games
>know that I'm going to regret this once midgame starts for all of them at the same time

So what are we gonna do about Ginnungagap?
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>>154023008
I sent you an answer 7 minutes ago. Still on a phone, though.
>>154021714
That is entirely fair.
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>>154023078
I am not. I never have been. This is ruse.
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>>154023604
>implying everything is about you
It's not a ruse, I'm just informing everyone that I'm in chat :^)
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>>154023341
Don't do what I did, 20+ late game turns is SUFFERING
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>>154005941
Mindless stuff can survive their dominion, so Golems are a decent idea.
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>>154023040
>say, Pythium, an uninspired and impotent nation
Check out what it can do with summod.
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>>154023341
Ginnun is, yeah, a null player is shit. I vote for remake or sub.
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>>154024321
Well, that looks like a major overhaul worth checking out, but I don't like submitting pretenders designed on a whim. Besides Lemuria, Pangaea and Caelum are the other LA nations I'm prepared to play and haven't already.
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>>154016320
>people who go AI
Am I the only one who goes down with the ship?
Break out any gems you've been saving for a rainy day, build hobo SCs with whatever is laying in your treasury, and maybe even cast a few meme spells before the elves break down your capital wall.
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Game: ToDistractYourselfFromLifeProblems
Turn number 1
Next turn due: 07:10 GMT on Thursday September 8th

Agartha 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Helheim 2h file received
Kailasa 2h file received
>Mictlan Waiting for 2h file
Niefelheim 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
>Sauromatia Waiting for 2h file
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>>154024494
Have you seen how summod shits on lemuria yet?
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>>154024921
Summod Lemuria seems like a more interesting nation to play than the vanilla version since you can get more aggressive with spectral weapons being magic resistance negates with difficulty and expansion not being as reliant on getting lucky with freespawn commanders, actually.
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>>154024638
You can bet your ass I'm gonna make the life of whoever invades as hard as possible. Fill my forts with wolves, send flying raid parties to all of his empty provinces, spam seeking arrows and other such spells. If you're gonna rape then I'm gonna kick and scream as hard as I can.
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What does Swallow do exactly?
I've searched it and some say it increases the creature's max HP permanently it the unit is digested, others say it just "imprisons" units until the end of the battle.
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>>154024494
They're all cool, imo. Pan's a communion nation closest in style to MA TC, since its centaur stages can do t-strike or Gifts from Heavens spam, or generic astral stuff like Stellar Cascades. While it has less diversity and more expensive troops, its bigger mages are not cap-only, its mages are much more resilient (so they can survive walking into an RoS, for instance), and its heavy infantry and crossbows are MM2 and have generally better-than-human stats. And, of course, they still have dryads for seducing throne mages and enemy commanders. Overall, they really don't play like the other eras of Pangaea.

Caelum has fewer reliable T-strikers than other eras, but makes up for it by having flying stealthy dual wielders, deeper E access, and the ability to get its national D summons without a pretender. They have great battlefield clear, with frequent access to both RoS and WoD, but many of their primary out of cap mages will require gems to be good in combat, given their randoms. Ultimately, they're one of the best raiding nations of the era (beaten only by Xibalba) and they thrive on blitzing through territory and using traps to eliminate enemy armies rather than engaging head on with T-strike and heavy flyers the way MA Caelum can.

Then Lemuria is, well, Lemuria. Immortal mages, 2000 ghosts in a fort, and literally uses thugs to expand. Summod makes it more interesting since it can actually expand with troops (and well, I might add), but actually needs to do so in order to get its gems and research. Turtling is punished closer to how it is for other nations, since you need your deadlands to do stuff, but on the other hand you also DO start with a mage
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>>154025325
It swallows the unit. If the guy doing the swallowing dies, the unit pops out if he hasn't been digested.
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>>154025325
Vore is a shit fetish.
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>>154016158
I'm pretty good about seeing sneak attacks coming, and I almost always expect my fights to go worse than they do. Opening my turns is stressful, but actually seeing losses is np.
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>>154027429

Untrue. It combines elements like helplessness, futility and fear that are clearly superior level kinks. Vanillafags need not apply to this discussion.
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What's going on with http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ForAFistfulOfDeathgems ?

Stales on Ys and Abysia.
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>>154028471
Abysia owes me items T.T
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>>154028239
>getting eaten alive by some monstrosity
>hot

Maybe MAYBE I could understand if it were some size 6 hot pretender like Asynja or a Mother Of Monsters but it never is.
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>>154023040
Pythium is 100000000 times more interesting than Lemuria. In vanilla too but in summod especially.

pic related >yfw playing Lemuria
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>>154030130
Vanilla Pythium sounds interesting (foreign rec mages! diversity! orgies!) but in practice it's awful because you just can't reliably get useful mages at all and even when you do, they're only 'mediocre' as opposed to 'utter shit.' Summod helps them a LOT.
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2869 gold vs 2878 gold loss

Guess you won :^)
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>>154030929
Post reports, screens, and blog
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>>154030567
I am not that guy who you are answering to. But you are just suck.
LA Pythium reliably getting all the mages it needs the more you having places to recruit from. Sure, if you have only cap and 1 fortless lab, you won't have enough mages.
I don't know what summod did to LA Pythium, but I bet it was overkill.
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>>154031017
No, no and fuck no.

Its a private "trade arrangement", just a dispute over borders tis all.
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>>154031078
>someone actually arguing vanillia LA pythium is fine
top Brutus
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>>154031383
One of my favorite nations, desu. You can do just anything with those mages. Great sitesearching, decent bloodnomics, great seducers and chaff producers. Hydras are sacred.
One of the best nations and totally fun to play.
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>>154031383
It was actually fine but required a very high level of play to utilize all it's options.
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>>154031743
Yes, it requires you being massively more skilled than your enemies at pretty much every level.

I mean, it *is* possible to win with them, but any other nation is easier to win with (If given a choice where I had to try to win, I'd pick EA R'lyeh over LA Pythium in a nonsummod game).
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>>154032427
>I'd pick EA R'lyeh over LA Pythium in a nonsummod game

They you're not very smart.
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Game: VirginDisciples
Turn number 54
Next turn due: 21:48 GMT on Tuesday September 6th

>>>>>Marverni Waiting for 2h file

Last updated at 19:13 GMT on Tuesday September 6th
Current time: 19:14 GMT
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>>154032678
The slave mages alone are pretty much better than anything LA Pythium gets on the mage side, and in terms of units its about the same.
R'lyeh at least has the option of forging too expensive amulets for their mages, versus LA Pythium who just doesn't get mages in the first place.

It's telling that EA R'lyeh has won more games than LA Pythium too.
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>>154033112
Pythium's units and mages are leagues better than R'lyeh's if in the right hands.

If you suck then sure you should stick to underwaterbabby nations.

R'lyeh only has more wins because even a completely garbage player with a bad nation can win when he is the sole UW nation and everyone else gets sick of playing.
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>>154033454
Show me your pythium wins, lad
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>>154023143
People who bitch about "cancer nations" already don't deserve to win.
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>>154033823
I did well in two PBEM's as LA Pythium. Had 2+ caps in each of them. One game I lost because I got ganked by 4 players. The other I eventually lost because I got outplayed by Ohlmann's Caelum. Haven't played them since summod came along but I will give them another shot.
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"Psssst hey there kiddo, you wanna see a map? Or could I interest you in some graphs?

Hehe no need to be shy, just step right up and satisfy your curiosity. Ask your question, and I'll answer it... for the right price, of course. Then again, you look like you're in need of some hard-hitting knowledge sprinkled with a generous helping of objective fact, so maybe I can pass on these morsels I possess free of charge..."
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>>154034313
>i've played twice and i lost both times

I'm liking the win record so far of this top tier nation.
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>>154034432

Let's see some Ulm and Abysia graphs. They're both at three caps now, I believe.
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>>154034454
Any nation would have lost under those circumstances.
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>>154034313
And I've got to viable endgame position or otherwise had very significant impact in almost every game I've played. I guess have 90%+ win percentage. Except that those aren't wins.
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>>154034663
Doubt it. Considering you've been spewing nothing but nonsense ITT.
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>>154034432
We definitely need graphs.

Nobody's going to pay you for casting a shit global though.
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/domg/ what does my army-accompanied SC need besides more MR?
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>>154034802
Who exactly do you think I am?
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>>154034867
Some random shitter who probably plays nothing but "top tier" nations but still sucks ass.
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>>154034557
>all it takes is skill to win with these guys
>i have no skill apparently since i never win as them but i'm sure it's true with my excellent skill as proof of my judgement

Yup, the evidence is totally building in your favour.
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>>154034827
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>>154020324

will also provide aid for ghost removal, do you need gold or gems? I might try to get to a fleet to rush Ghosts with my magic bullshit if I can
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>>154034991
>MR 15
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The Batman is pretender is dead.

His hundreds of bat followers are not, and thus begins my struggle. once again gold and gem donations would be heavily appreciated.
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>>154034991
>MR15
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>>154034960
I expected you to identify posts you think were written by me as I've, according to you, been spewing shit in the thread, but considering all the nations I've happened to discuss in this particular thread are mid tier at best, I think it's safe to say you've got the wrong anon.
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>>154035142
>>154035320
Its mindless though
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>>154035382
So?
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>>154035382
It will mindlessly die to disintegrate/elf bane then.
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>>154035382
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>>154034995
Tbh right now all i need is time to finish my forts and start properly recruiting.
>tfw crashed into Pythium and lost a bunch of shit including one A3 mage.
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>>154034960
mad?
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>>154035495
Petrify too, and D2 or E2 mages aren't exactly uncommon.
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>>154035142
>>154034991
>precision 5

Also NGF Lanka, I can't fight bats anymore, Atlantis has cut me off. Good luck, if you need gold or gems flick me a message
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>>154035675
Tbh if you don't give me back that province, building forts will be the least of your problems.
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>>154034432
>>154034551
>>154034803

>Nobody's going to pay you for casting a shit global though.
>not playing along with the flow of my dialogue for storytelling effect

cmon now

Anyway, here's the map.
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>>154035798
Will you attack Abysia when he blinds you because he's a bitch?
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>>154035798
>Abysia
>played by Malakal
Well, OF COURSE we have to remove Ermor, the most powerful nation in the game.
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>>154034432
>>154035798

Provinces
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>>154035798
Let me tell you what's going to happen:

Ermor's going to eat Man.

Ulm's going to eat Agartha.

Abysia is going to eat everyone and win the game because Malakal and autism.
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>>154036071
>Ermor's going to eat Man.
>Ulm's going to eat Agartha.

I ate your mom last night faggot
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>>154036441
Look at the graph. You're basically irrelevant at this point.
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>>154036540
>at this point
He never was relevant tbqh.
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>>154035798
>Abysia got 75%+ of my territory

Good, rather him than the rest.
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>>154036540
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>>154035992
Other graphs please.
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>>154035798

Needs to be noted all of my post Asphodel land is kiiinda dead due to being post Asphodel.

>>154035909

Why would I waste my non existent fire gems on that?

>>154036071

Man aint dying on my watch.
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>>154035992
Can you post a pic with only Abysia, Aspho and Man? You can almost see the history through them.

>Abysia rising systematically as Aspho falls down
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>>154036802
It's not like you can reach Ermor or anything.
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>>154036441
d. Ban
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>>154036910

I directly border Man, if Ermor tries to eats Man that will give us a border.
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>>154034432
>>154035798
>>154035992

Sorry dudes, crazy commotion outside caused by neighbors, I had to see what it was.

Here's income.
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>>154037072
Holy fuck look at those jews.
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>>154035992
>>154037072
Well, okay. Maybe Rus had to be put in his place.
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>>154036936
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>>154036742
>>154037072

Gem income.
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>>154037229
Malakal's going down in 10... 9... 8...
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>>154037072
>>154037229

Research.
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>>154037360
It took people 40 turns and for WoG to be cast so they can finally start ganging up on Ermor who's much smaller and weaker than Abysia.

How long do you think it'll take for people to take action against firejews?
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>>154037417
NO YOU FOOL

STOP UNCOVERING MY MASTER PLAN
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>>154037479
Too long. If Malakal wins this game, I'm done with dominoes.
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>>154037507
You can't break the Seal in MA, m8.
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>>154037072
>>154037229
>>154037417

Lastly, army size.
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>>154037545
I broke your mom's seal in MA last night :o)
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>>154037417

Welp as far behind as one could expect. Thanks 180g F2 mages.

>>154037562

Muh awoos
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I feel way less bad about the Vanarus gangbang now. I had thought it was just standard diplomonstering, but they really were getting ahead of everyone.
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>>154037874
Oy vey it was like anoatha shoah , need compensation for muh 6 million lost glamored units.
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Game: MemeOfTheAges
Turn number 33
Next turn due: 16:17 GMT on Wednesday September 7th

Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
>Marignon Waiting for 2h file
Pangaea 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>154034991
>magic being
>MR 15
>3 AP
>12 defense while statue tag
>15 fucking MR

plenty of ways to remove it, but pretty much impossible outside of them
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>always insanely curious to see graphs in my pbems
>people rarely cast eyes of god

explain yourselves domgtards
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>>154038638
Kinda like removing Ermor. It's really nice when someone does it, but spending your resources on it isn't worth it, since you get almost nothing from it.
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>>154038215
Clam your tits
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>>154038638
Fate of Oedipus
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Game: ToDistractYourselfFromLifeProblems
Turn number 1
Next turn due: 07:10 GMT on Thursday September 8th

Agartha 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Helheim 2h file received
Kailasa 2h file received
>Mictlan Waiting for 2h file
Niefelheim 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Sauromatia 2h file received
Tir na n'Og 2h file received
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>>154038638
>Waste of gems for no actual benefit, especially if graphs are then posted
>Caster will probably get blinded
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>>154039029
Life problems got real.
>>
SparklyThrones is going BLAZING FAST
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Game: Olathe
Turn number 5
Next turn due: 01:26 GMT on Wednesday September 7th

Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Asphodel 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
Shinuyama 2h file received
>Caelum Waiting for 2h file
Ermor 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Jotunheim 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Oceania 2h file received
Pelagia 2h file received
Pythium 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Sceleria 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received
Ys 2h file received
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Reminder that

Game: GinnungagapREBIRTH
Turn number 2
Next turn due: 23:04 GMT on Tuesday September 6th

Abysia 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Fomoria 2h file received
Hinnom 2h file received
Kailasa 2h file received
Lanka 2h file received
Niefelheim 2h file received
Pelagia Waiting for 2h file
R'lyeh 2h file received
Therodos 2h file received

Pelagia staled on turn 1 so we need to decide whether to AI or restart.
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>searched with D9 over 70% of my island
>not a single D site found
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I want stalers to die.
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>>154040258
I KNOW, THANKS. I won't be done with it until about 7pm EST (Autohost at 9:27).
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>>154042198
Sure, no problem. Take your time, anon.
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>>154042496
I'll do a double, thanks for your patience.
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Does this stack with Phoenix Power?
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>>154042653
No.
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>>154040401
I'm the most likely player to benefit from AI Pelagia, and I would still prefer to restart.
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quick stupid question.

In the Magic vs Drain scale, it's -1 MR, +1 MR respectively right?
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>>154039806
I thought I was going to be kill like 10 turns ago, just happy I'm still along for the ride.
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>>154043059
-0.5, so the break points are Drain 2 and Magic 2
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>>154043059
Magic 2+ is -1 MR
Drain 2+ is +1 MR
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>>154040401
has restarted 3 times already, what's the fuss making it 4.
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MUUCH ARE REAL
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>>154044664
We've always known that muuch are real. They have a little goddess in Gensokyo
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>>154043120
>>154043140

Thanks
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How can an SC counter stellar cascade spam?
Is it even avoidable? And does it affect even undead/lifeless beings?
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>>154045364
It does AFFECT them if they get hit by the AoE, but the casting portion will not TARGET units with 0 encumbrance.

Generally, you just give SCs a lot of reinvig and prot, but the easiest way is to keep it out of range. An SC at the back that buffs itself / holds until the weenies get to it and then fights them there will be able to avoid the SC mages unless they're set at the front and scripted to attack before casting (which is fairly rare, and risky)
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>>154045364
Positioning.

Also, getting fatigued isn't necessarily the end. If you can survive the incoming damage even while eating crits and having no defence, you can kill enemies through a variety of ways (reflected damage like fire shield, effects like soul vortex or firestorm) or simply by being on the defensive and surviving until autorout while having blocked off enemy retreat paths.
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>>154045924
>>154045591
So Holding him for 5 turns and scripting him to basically buff himself for 5 turns then engage in melee would be my safest bet yes?
Also, how does autorout work? i've done mys earch but they say things have changed since dom3 (where after 50 turns the attackers fled no matter what)
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>>154046198
You have only 5 turns of scripting, so you probably want to use those to buff.

Autoroute works more or less the same, except that battle timers are much longer, and while attackers DO route first, berserked units route even after defenders. (eg - a golem will die to skellyspammers, since it will hit the autoroute and then just melt since mindless units can't route, whereas a golem with an item that made it go berserk will stay until the skellyspammers run instead)
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>>154037670
wew lads
Pan is just reking you guys tonight
inb4 I rekt your mom last night
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>>154041373
but then they will just stale moar
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>>154046906
Just start a new game after they die.
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>>154046730
I rekt your guy last night :o)
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>>154044779
Gensokyo isn't real nerd
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>>154047189
It could be.
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Come on guys.
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>>154047189
Just because you need to kill yourself to get there doesn't mean it isn't real.
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>>154048112
>I'm going to spam resends for every player who takes turns slower than I want
>Why does llama keep breaking down?

stop that
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>>154039029
>>154039117
He's still got time. If he comes within 2 hours of staling and I catch it (or if I don't and he does stale), we'll restart.
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>>154043097
That GoH spam really caught me by surprise since I thought you had nothing in there and I couldn't really spare much more than freespawn the second time, we'll see how the third time goes.

Maybe I'll remember to script those grand lemurs this time.
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>>154035761
I might fling you a message later but right now all I need really are mo holy points fo dem sacreds. Oh and I guess if someone can spam Wrath of Pazuzu on ex-Hinnom provinces before me that'd be swell but I doubt it.
Fucking Hinnom did he really have to take O3?
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Which spells allow to spam good researchers?
Atlantis has terrible research and i'd like to use some gems instead.
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So Ermor, can we talk in the steamchat?
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>>154016816
Alright, can remove Lemuria for you.

Also, shilling the game again. Just look at all those weak early game nations you could totally rush with Vans or Zheyadan or some shiet.

Maybe that LA Pythium guy will join even.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=RealmofRoaringScrubs
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REEEEEEE SOMEONE MAKE A MODNAT GAME
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http://imgur.com/a/v0axR
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>>154050429
Thanks. I also opted to play another nation anyway because some fags wanted to play a LA game without cancer nations for once (although I will be slightly upset if someone else picks Lemuria now).
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>>154050948
What game?
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>>154051054
I mean, it is summod Lemuria, just rush them before they get enough Deadlands.
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>>154051175
AntiquisTerra
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>>154052002
Isn't that a game only a few turns in? Those graphs are not just a few turns.
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>>154048112
Don't do this you asshats, it just fucks with Llamaserver.
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Game: MAdden_2016_Hexxy_Edition

Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Asphodel 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
>Ulm Waiting for 2h file
Vanheim 2h file received

R EEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>154052927
>Ulm
Oh shit, almost forgot about that meme.
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>>154052356
also gmail usually groups the emails into a big chunk that can be easily deleted
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>>154053178
Specifically MA Ulm.
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>new uwbowl round
Sweet
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>>154052002
>>154052180
>Oceania

Nice try dickbrain.

It's probably Der Gott
>>
What games are recruiting?
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>>154057138
See >>154050429
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Olathe Ermor, are you here?
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>>153971305
>In mountains, She gets Forest Gods for FREE
>Sorry, Mountain Gods. Forest Gods are the forest dudes.

You don't say?
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>>154057408
Sorry, I don't speak moon-runes.
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Ginnungagap Hinnom - I'm cool with your keeping 50 and also taking 65, but I would like to take and fort 41 to have a mind vessel production point in my cap circle
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>>154057408
and this is why summod and all other mods a shit
REEEEEEEEEEE DEFILING THE PURITY OF ILLWINTER'S MYTHOLOGICAL REFERENCES
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>>154057753
Allright nigga, you will from now on. Just remember this short incantation: FU-RIN-KA-ZAN

"Fuu" is like wind and shit. Also know as "Kaze". Just like in "kamikaze", huh? Well that's "Divine wind for you". God Wind you know? Or Paper Wind but let us not even go to the territory of the same words meaning multiple things. You gotta be swift like wind or something like that.

"Rin" is not only the best girl (Actually it is Saber) but also has something to do with trees. Even the moonglyph looks like a tree. And for the kicker, when you put three of those tree looking glyphs together it becomes lots of three, or a forest, "Mori". Some old guy said you should be silent like a forest.

"Ka". To be honest this just means fire. But there are like dozen other things that mean fire so let's just move along. But raid like it does okkk?

"Zan" means mountain. "Yama" also means mountain. You might've seen some jap call that Fuji mountain "Fuji-san"? WELL WAKEY WAKEY YOU STUPID WESTERN FUCK they actually called it Fuji-zan, Mountain Fuji. Do like a mountain does and don't move (except like 0,1mm a year).
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>>154057408
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>>154058739
>Rin
>saber
>best girl
unless you mean red saber you should just leave
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>>154058739
I don't know if it's possible for me to care less.
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>>154057869
Could you use 22?
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>>154059143
It's got enemy dom, so it's got a decent chance of being someone else's cap circle. It's also much harder for me to take because it's got Size 3 units in it and I will be using my tramplers to take it.
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>>154058739
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>>154059426
Aight, I'll leave (41) to you.
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>>154059742
Awesome, thanks.
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So the Yama-no-Kami says that it's weaker outside of mountains, but while the Mori-no-Kami has a forest shape, the Yama doesn't have a mountain-shape. Is that just fluff, or does it actually get weaker?
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>>154060295
Indeed, it was not possible for you to care less. But it was very well possible for you to care more.
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>>154060430
What?
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>>154058867
It's Sakura you fool
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>>154060503
You heard me. It seems the tables have turned?
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>>154060503
>>
Anyways, has anyone ever used the yama-no-kami?
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>>154061142
>Can't see shit about any path changes captain.
Yeah, neither can I, but I've also never used them in-game and it might be something that somehow slipped past the mod inspector somehow
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>>154060979
>>154061241
Y-yeah...

No changing paths here. Nor anything else for that matter.
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>>154061349
I did look it up in the inspector, and since the crunch seems to be missing something explicitly stated in the fluff, I figured I'd ask.

But yeah, I guess I'll have to do a test game since no one seems to have used one themselves.

He's cute
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>>154061349
Yeah, nobody saw you post that trap picture. Nobody at all.
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>>154061547
saved tbqh desu
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>>154061547
YES! Ha ha ha! So silly of me to post the Aboleth trap picture from my domg folder instead of the Dom inspector cap.
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>>154057182
>>154057138
Anything else?
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>>154061758
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>>154061758
*Record scratch*
You might be wondering how I ended up in this situation. Well, few weeks ago I was using a Succubus to experiment on the effects of wielding both the Bear Claw Talisman AND the Cat Charm...
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>>154062261
I actually have one of those. I got the Bear Claw from an event
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Thread demands memes!
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>>154063884
Pay me two hundred (200) Bison dollars and I will have a good meme made out of this by the next week.
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Found this guy in a random 'empty' indie province. Is it some kind of, uh, indie hero?
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>>154064710
Yeah, kinda
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>>154064992
Am I guaranteed to find Bolivar's Tower in that province or is he just appearing in random provs?
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>>154065123
I think so
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>>154064710
>>154064710
I think he is one of those "special" kind of heroes. Fighting machakans and shit.
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>>154064710
The 'empty' indie province was probably full of lion tribe before that guy arrived.
>>
Save the thread with Memes!
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>>154065645
How awful is La pythium?
I already have some Ea and Ma nations that I like, but want to find my LA nations.

Any advice? Which ones are fun? I was thinking in Pythium or Patala, but dont know how to feel about Bogarus.
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>>154068563
Their mage selection is one of the worst in the game and their troops are mediocre.

I've heard summod improves them a lot, so if you're interested I'd go try them with that.
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>>154068563
What Ea and Ma nations do you like?
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How do body ethereal, stygian skin, invulnerability, protection boosts, and normal protection interact with each other? Do they just cause multiple checks or do they stack their values for the same checks? I assume items that provide similar effects to the spells would follow the same rules, unless there are exceptions.

Thanks in advance for any insight into these or any other bits I didn't mention but are relevant to the subject. I'm trying to get a better grasp of how mechanics interact beyond their individual descriptions in game or in the manual.
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>>154070791
Stygian skin is simply invulnerability with a score of 15 instead of 25 or whatever.

Invulnerability is used in place of natural protection if it is higher and it is a nonmagical attack.

both invulnerability and natural protection stack partially with armor.

Protection 'boosts' vary in effect. Stoneskin, barkskin, and ironskin increase natural prot to 15, 10, and 20 respectively. Legions of Steel increases the effect of armor by 3, but only functions if armor is worn. .

Body ethereal is an entirely different effect that gives a 3/4 chance of ignoring nonmagical damage.
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>>154070791
>body ethereal
3/4 of all non-magical attacks are ignored
>stygian skin
grants invulnerability 15; invulnerability replaces natural protection (unless nat prot is higher) when hit with non-magical attacks
>invulnerability
grants invulnerability 25 (replaces invulnerability from stygian skin)
>protection boosts and normal protection
not sure what you mean by that. is it about natural protection + armor protection or prot buffs like bark/stone/iron-skin?
>>
>Do my turns at the start of the day
>Another turn comes in 4 hours after that
>Return after 12 hours, wanting to do some turns before bed
>Not a single game turned.

reeee etc
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>>154071247
I mostly meant natural protection plus spell effects but some info on how armor fits into that would be useful as well.
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>>154071389
well then, this post >>154071245 is correct

armor protection partially stacks with natural protection. the formula is N + A - (N*A)/40 where N = natural protection and A = armor protection
for example, a lizard (5 natural prot) with a scale mail cuirass (10 armor prot) has overall body protection of ~14
if you were to put the same scale mail cuirass (10 armor prot) on the living statue (20 natural prot), overall prot would be 25.
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>>154071931
So the hardest anything could ever be is 40?
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>>154072118
not really, why? it's theoretically possible for a unit to have, say, 50 natural protection. it would gain almost no benefit from any armor, though.
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>>154070121
EA: xibalba, berytos and rlyeh
Ma: pythium, rlyeh and Bandar

I think i like blood and astral centered nations. La rlyeh feels selfdestructing and La xibalba feels like a worse version of Ea xibalba.
I like communions, but a nation without national spells and summons feels plain and boring.
>>
Do reaper units stack with each other?
Can I stack 2 bane venom charms on a bunch of undead scouts and have them popkill a province ultra fast?
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>>154072118
Yes.

>>154072276
If you set protection to a value higher than 40 the game will just give it 40.

>it would gain almost no benefit from any armor, though.
If it could actually happen, you'd actually lose protection.

A 50 prot unit with 10 prot armor gives an output of 48 protection using that formula.
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>>154072354
>La xibalba feels like a worse version of Ea xibalba.
While it is worse in many ways, LA Xib has deep earth access. That means that you can do SoG bat squads very early on in the game, which are quite nice for before you get your demons out.

They do have trouble summoning ozelittles en masse, tho, since they don't have native casters for it.
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>>154050429
Joining as Ragha
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>>154072968

Yes and yes,
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>>154075107
>>154072968
Yes and Sorta, because bane venoms only stack when held by two different units
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>>154039029
>>154039117
>>154048286
Shit, sorry guys.

Speaking of life things, I actually moved today, hence the late turn. Things should stabilize soon; will do a double.
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>>154075223
so only one charm on each stealthy, got it. And how about units who already have reaper? Does bane venom add to it or does the more powerful version of the trait override the other?
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>>154075269
ur fine m8
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>>154075362

Yes and definitely yes.
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>>154075362
I have not actually tested this, but I'd assume that they would stack because other traits (regen, resists, etc) stack when from two different sources but not from the same exact item
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What does it mean if when I try to send a message, my only option is "everyone" and individual nations are greyed out?
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huh

ToDistractYourselfFromLifeProblems is the first game i've played with 2 starting provs, confused the hell out of me for a second
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>>154075269
No problem at all, glad to see you're still with us.
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So, Anyone want to sub for a 2 turn Staled Pelagia? Or should I just set him to AI?

I may do another remake but I plan to keep playing in this one regardless. I don't think the imbalance caused by one staling water nation is enough to warrant killing the game, especially with how crowded the water was to begin with.
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How do I gain more void sanity?
I wish to stare longer and harder into the abyss.
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>>154079325
2 turns of stales is going to set them horribly behind, and given how packed the water is, whoever grabs them is at a crippling disadvantage even before considering the kind of shit pretender that a Turn 1 staler would put together.

But sure, I'd prefer a sub to an AI
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>>154075627
close dominion and restart. if the problem persist try to redownload turn or restart pc, or check if everyone has gone AI.
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What happens if I script a mage to cast a spell but nobody is in range? Does he forget about the spell entirely or does he cast it again once he's in range?
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Do enchant battlefield spells stack?
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>>153994578
Ill join as Gath
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>>154080563
with themselves? no.
with each other? i think almost every one does stack with others.

some spells can be used by both players, like howl. i think Storm can be cast by both sides and will have 2 indipendent slots occupied, but the effect is still one storm.
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Ok, so LA arco is straight up trash, right?
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>>154081115
Till you mindhunt every other sentient creature on the planet into oblivion.
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>>154080969
How effective is the ravenous swarm anyway? Should I cast that or maggots?
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>>154081352
Practically every nation in LA has astral, though
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>>153994578
I think I'll join as Man. Last time I got my ass handed to me by Bane Venom while my N9 tree sat at home doing nothing. What's a better way to go about this?

Is a rainbow pretender on LA Man ever a decent idea? Or how about aiming for Astral and Death for rings and Tarts along with good scales?

How do I win as this nation?
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>>154081527
pretty effective, but limited. it's one square/turn if i recall correctly.
it also hurts thugged undeads.
cast it if you don't have undeads but expect any from your enemy.
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>>154081716
I mean, when I won as LA Man I went with an awake expander who proceeded to be more or less useless, but spammed Golems (no N9) and Tart thugs/SCs.

It helps when you manage to jack Lemuria's capital and have the Steel Ovens in your cap ring though.
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>>154079901
He'll forget about it.
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>>154082103
So the optimal way to play Man past the midgame is to not use any of their nationals. Noted.
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>>154082103
Do you think that a Man pretender should be designed around summoning SCs? I think that with passable scales expanding decently with their nationals is perfectly possible.
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>>154082273
No and yeah, they expand fine

In summod, wardens are much more useful because MM2 (seriously, it's a huge deal),
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>>154083475
>MM2 wardens
That's interesting. Together with high production scales can a bless build be viable on Man now?
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>>154064710
Fuck that, I met his little brothers and their friends.
3 air mages and 40 indys next to capital, rip expansion party.
If I can't beat the heavy cavarly either that are also in my cap ring, I am done.
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>>154084264
Sorta-Not-Really. You really don't want a double or anything, but N9 for later golems and doggo evo bait is fine
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>>154084420
Oh, but they expand fine, of course.
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>>154084420
>>154084457
I'm thinking I might give my N9 tree another go if that's the case.
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All the games only link to 'latest version'

Where do I find summod .66?
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>>154084779
Did you try typing summod into google?
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>>154068563
>>154072354
Help please.
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>>154084898
No, it never occurred to me that /domg/ stuff can be found that easily.

And generally what's a better option? A point of growth or not taking 1 point of heat/cold?
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>>154085063

You generally want to max Growth under any circumstances you aren't playing a domkill nation.
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>>154085152
All right then. What about taking a point of heat/cold in exchange for growth? Worth it?
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>>154085191

Usually worth it, although it will take a few turns to make up the difference.
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>>154085296
Cool. But I just realized the game I was preparing to join started so it'll be a while before I get to try this out.
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>>154084908
LA Mictlan is good. It's more or less the same as EA, except it has issues fighting all the crossbows but has amphibious access) In vanilla, it can deploy massed puchis, in summod it mostly does ozelittles. It can do horrors pretty well too, though its moon priests are cap only.

LA Bats are good. Like EA bats, but with amphib + bigger E/W magic, but no native ozelotl access (which DOES suck). Still turbo-expands, except the magic transition is generally focused on getting out E magic stuff before going full demon rather than trying to get to ozelotls right away to replace your bats. Oh, and they have forest req blood mages.

LA Gath is good. Closest to Berytos, I'd say, since it has human sized lab rats and 135g blood hunters. You generally take a bless on them. The N9 and variants (N9E4, whatever) are fine since you can thug kohens and angels, but B9x4 or even a double bless are fine too. Bless aside, their best early game troops are dual wielding humans with slings and they have solid mage options (65g SN mages and yeddeoni battlemages) so you can also actually just go scales and do fine too. Lots of different ways to play them.

Patala is weird. They've got BIG mages for LA and the Bandar Log blood stuff, but unlike BL their cap only sacreds are way less impressive so they can't just kill someone early with the right bless. They also kinda suck against crossbows. That said, they do the astral thing and bring some big mages for diversity and alternative support.

Summod Abysia is a blood nation that will probably want to use their national crossbreeding spell in place of regular infantry. It is very efficient at making heat aura and fire-spitting chaff, and it comes online quickly. Like EA Mictlan and Xibalba, LA Abysia is FULL blood ALL the time.

Bogarus is THE mage nation. I'd say it's closest to Bery, except without an emphasis on sacred demon summons. They are hands down the most squishy mage reliant nation.

Also, I think you'd like EA Ermor.
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Olathe Ermor, are you around?
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>>154086054
Who wants ta know?
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>>154086348
Is it really you? or am i being tricked again? Wanted to talk about borders.
I'm in the steamchat right now.
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>>154086646
Was somebody impersonating me? I just jumped into the steam chat now
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>>154086721
>>154086348
Sorry, a new turn went out and was checking it.
I'm in the chat right now.
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Do i go for N9E4 with LA atlantis?
I'm a big fan of S9 because of the good LA research, which means either an early astral nexus or an early wish (not to mention twist fate bless), but i don't know if i'm asking for rape by doing so.
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Who else /richasfuck/ here?
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>>154091161
Rich wannabe god reporting in. It's castles galore over here.
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>>154091161
Reporting, 1600+ income and less than 300 upkeep. Even Gath is afraid.
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>>154091161
Do gems count? Abysia has full control of the fire plane, so they ought to be swimming in firegems, which is bad.
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>>154081641
Yes, but LA Arco has healers. You can mindhunt freely without risk of permanently losing your mages.

>>154081115
Armored elephants for super-easy expansion and rushes, great mapmove2 lineholders and solid cavalry. Mystics are also quite powerful for LA mages and provide fast research.
They're not top-tier, but definitely okay.
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Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Asphodel 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
>Ulm Waiting for 2h file
Vanheim 2h file received


>>>>>>>>>Ulm Waiting for 2h file
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>>154091161

I wept a tear knowing I had to start recruiting units to prepare for mid-game.
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>>154091867
I believe mindhunts don't have an effect if they're intercepted by an enemy astral mage, so even a modest astral presence greatly reduces effectiveness even if you can heal the feeblemind.

It's still useful as an tactic against raiding, but you aren't going to do much to an enemy army if they have astral.
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>>154092692
>>154091706
>>154091628
>>154091161
Less than 3k income peasants SWERVE
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If you use Transformation underwater, will the unit automatically become a water creature?
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>>154093968
Yes.
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>>154093968

Yes, I have seen a djin transformed to a amphibian, was quite hilarious.
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>>154093968
No. Don't do it, it's dangerous.
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Looks like RealmofRoaringScrubs started and unless I'm completely blind, no one has posted names yet. Here they are.
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>>154094507
If a Djinn transforms, will it still disappear if you build the lamp?
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>>154091161
Everything is wastes and R'lyeh's dominion touches half of my territory. The onyl thing that makes me feel better is the knowledge that most of my territory is simply too awful to be worth fighting for.

And was this map designed with only 1 water nation in mind> And that one nation being R'lyeh?
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>>154095906

>latus
>designed

lel
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>>154095906
Fregs soon fellow pretender, fregs soon.
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>>154095906
No, but R'lyeh admitted that he rigged it beforehand to increase his chances of not having Atlantis in the game.
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>>154047056

That's something.

Maybe I still got a soul, somewhere.
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>>154095906
Sorry mate, ain't dompushing you on purpose but the madmen making themselves prophets sure don't help.

>>154096374
That was some memester pretending to be me, I never pretended to be Atlantis. Atlantis starts on the opposite side of the world from R'lyeh anyway.
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>>154096465
I won't fall for your tricks. See you UW.
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>>154096284
fregs sooner pls

>>154096465
I'm taking measures against the insanity dominion but I'd prefer if I didn't have to. I got C'tis worst hero early on despite my misfortune scales and he went insane the turn after I got him patrolling a 1 black candle province.
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>they didn't pick Luck 3

Order? Food? Shelter? Your citizens need none of that if they trip on ancient treasury and pie rains from the sky.
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>>154096284
>>154096508
>>154096541
What's a freg?
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>>154096284
>>154096508
>>154096541
>>154096824
REEEEEEEEEEEE STAY OUT OF MY UW
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Is Ragha here?
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Ys ya here?
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>>154097281
Yes.
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>>154097418
Get in steamchat if possible please.
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>>154086646
>>154086348
Pythium is colluding with skeletons, gg.
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How many astral pearls does the Arcane Nexus give on average if, theorethically, no player used non-blood/astral gems?
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>>154097390

I won't be free and at home for another 7ish hours, sadly.
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>>154081115
I like them better than MA. You give up S4 in cap for diversity
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>>154091861
The problem is, first you need the gold, then you get the mages, then you spend the fire gems. I only recently got my first province with more than 4000 pop. It's like fucking Natgen all over again.
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>>154098649
What can do you do with tons of fire gems?
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>>154098361

I wanted to order some items as per your message.

We will talk later.
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>>154098782

Sounds good. I'll hop in chat when I get home.
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>>154098713
Lose, mostly.
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>>154098713
Watch the world burn.
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>pythium has to share their angels with mari
>therodos has to share their telkhines with berytos, despite telkhines being integral to therodos lore AND berytos already being a very strong nation
>hinnom gets their lords of civilization to themselves

i will never stop being triggered by this
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>>154099797
What other nation should get access to them, then?

The angels being shared makes sense thematically, and Berytos has at least some connection with the Telkhines in the lore, but no other nation really has a claim to the Grigori.
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>>154099797
Well at least Therodos gets 3 telkhine heroes.
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>>154100013
Therodos gets 2, Breytos gets one
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>>154099983

Abysia should get access to the Grigori.
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>>154100382
Why? Abysia is nation based on Zoroastrianism, not Book of Enoch/Old Testament.
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>>154099797
The grigori are pretty much irrelevant anyway.

>>154099983
Gath and Ashdod, maybe?

Both are direct descendants of Hinnom, and most such nations keep the spells their ancestors had even if they have poor paths to cast them.
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>>154100443

Abysians are Arabs. Caelum is Persia.
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>>154100458
I don't agree with ashdod getting the grigori, howver I think a lessor form should be done. In the lore of the Son of Fallen pretender it implies he ate the other sons of niefel that are heros for hinnom in EA. There should be a spell to summon the Sheol version of these sons IMO
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Should Marignon's/Pythium's angels also not be wishable for?
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Hi elves. Are we friends?
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>>154101226
But wishing for seraphs is the only way they're going to get used anyway
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Throne of Gaia get out REEEEEEEE
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>>154102267
As I said, I'm not sorry at all.
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>>154102431
>Coolstory diplo
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>>154103315
Stop making my diplo into a meme. You'll thank me when we win.
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>>154104471
<unsheathes dagger Internally>
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>>154104581
how about i stab your shit
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>>154104724
>no black heart
one job coolstory
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>>154104784
shank three niggas at once
shank one nigga three times
shields are for pussies
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>>154104976
btw did you name your disciples because of our Awful game wu tang empire? if so I'd feel honored
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>>154105029
VD started 15 of may, AG started 31 of may.

I think we named them that after we decided that naming every pretender after Rejakor would be bad taste or something.

But you can still feel honored if you want.
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>>154105218
it's still ironic Rejaktor still ended up joining in the end
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>>154105274
He might even win. Meme magic.
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>>154105218
The pretender is still named after a game in which he as Ma Ulm started staling turn 10
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>>154104976
Why would you put a shroud on a unit that can self bless? All it does is marginally reduce his prot
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>>154106363

Can be worth it if you want to ensure the bless is there for the enemy defensive first turn.

Saves a buff turn as well.
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>>154104976
>>154106363
he's using it as an assassin. you don't want assasins to spend turns casting buffs( and if you want to spend one turn casting buffs it's either flying or maaaybe mistform).

you just want it to rush into the enemy face asap.
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>>154106363
For turn 1 meme rush, of course. And Iron Face gives him 32 head and 25 body protection.

And I hope you don't think I would actually use this guy.

I'd use a guy with 2 copper arms and 4 dusk daggers.
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Game: When_You_Stale_IRL
Turn number 51
Next turn due: 22:40 GMT on Wednesday September 7th


Atlantis 2h file received
Man 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Unexpected Nation 2h file received
>Marignon Waiting for 2h file
Pangaea 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Get fucked bats
Though the sacreds themselves saw little action.
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There she is. Turn 0 flight, bless, and 3 AN attacks per round + W9 bonus. Good protection against melee shit and skellington spam, and okay MR against soul slays and shit.
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>>154107198
git shanked m8
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>>154107198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03L_ZTbKiRc
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>>154107198
how does it actually beat horde of skeleton if it decides to not attack the mage on the first turn with flight?
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>>154107623
Shank dem skellies and wait until the mage is tired I guess? I'm gonna test it.
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>do turns
>go to sleep
>wake up
>go to work
>come home
>eat
>go to PC
>crack open a bear
>no turns
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>>154098890
Thanks for the graphs, pal.
For me they were expectedly unpleasant, but informative nonetheless.
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>reminder that okofire is playing in WeWuz
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Arco forgot you need priests to remove Ermor?

In any case help needed with the skeletons, fighting them on two fronts will spread me thin.
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>>154108368
What nations?
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>>154108368
He's in Latus 3 too, he's Xibalba.
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>>154108431
>Oh my, I found Ermor! I'll attack them right away!
I hope you learned your lesson, Kami.
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>>154108431
I am officially deploying for battle. Won't say who I am so that Ermor won't know where to expect.
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>>154107623
Works 9 times out of 10. 10th was a disintegrate cast.
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Hello?
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>>154108737
If I were in that game, I'd remove you this instant.
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>>154108737
Good job. If only Shinu wasn't that close to being dead.
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>>154108737
Fucking. REKT.
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>>154108431
Case in point:
How a battle looks like with 6 priests.
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>>154108737
>1 dusk elder
>against Ermor this big at this point in the game

Nothing to brag about.
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>>154108737
What an achievement.
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>>154108834
>implying you could
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>>154109046
>forgot image
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>>154108737
Are you going to make collages about victories over 3PD after that?
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>>154109178
No I'd rather make a collage about my victories over 3DPD aka YOUR MOM :o)
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>>154109170
Is this tribless Ermor?
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>>154108193
>>crack open a bear
Damn
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>>154108193
>crack open a bear
Hello, Rus.
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>>154109293
lmao!
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>>154109293
>I'll make a your mom joke, that'll show him
You don't even have variations in your banter. Stop attention whoring so hard.
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>>154109294
Hahaha, I'd be fucked if it was tribless. D9
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>>154109605
>samefagging over ur mum xD joke
pls
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>>154109709
Nah, you'd be fine. Fire Elementals still work fine
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>>154109709
There are only 9 knights. You'd fuck them up with firestorm and some MR items.
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>>154109787
>being this buttmad over getting rekt by t. Pan
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>>154109640
I wish your mom tasted this salty :o)

Fuck off, mom-goatfucker. I know it's you.
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>>154110028
>t. Pan
>reking anyone
cute
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>>154110164
>dat damage control

>>154110105
lmao!
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>>154110028
>>154110105
>>154110252
>>154110384
You're so starved to be relevant in any way you can. It's so pathetic.
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>>154108873
I'm fine.

Fire storm online.
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>>154107690
>11 encumbrance

you can only attack one square per turn, 2 if you have quikness.
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>having to resort to samefagging to justify your pathetic existence
>thinking that people won't realize what you're doing it after 9999 attempts
>thinking you matter in any of your games
kys
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>>154110461
t. Anon trying hard to stay relevant in the eyes of his furry god

>>154110658
>Implying I'm samefagging

The only thing I'm doing is fagging
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>>154110720
I've seen better fagging than that though. You think you're so smart and make people mad with your troll antics, don't you? It doesn't work. Your bantz is weak, your taste is shit, and so are your plays. You killed a dusk elder? What a feat, surely you were so impressed by yourself it needed a collage, that you will repost on occasion to show your worth.
Now is the time when you respond with another shitty mom joke, weak bait or without your name. Or maybe you just resort to t. Pan since that's the only things you're able to do.
At least come up with better stuff for once, if you can
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>>154111071
Just don't reply.
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>>154111071
Insult me MORE~
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Hi, I'm MAMemes Ermor, and I didn't reply to a single t.Pan post. And you shouldn't too, anon, if you know what's good for you.

In other news, countdown till Man is going AI has started.
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>>154108514
Don't insult me like that.
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>>154031078
>>154031634
>>154031743
>>154034313
Hi eustachy/ally/opm. Rage quit recently?
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>>154109954
B9 reflects fire storm though
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>>154111417
I won't deny I'm the one who lost most, but that battle shouldn't have happened(or rather I didn't expect it to happen.)

I realized I was gonna get hit so I moved those troops elsewhere but the battle still happened there for some reason, and I recall reading that a smaller army can't stop a larger army or something. Oh well guess I got more manual reading to do.

>AI

In your dreams skeleton, I won't stop until either one of us is 3 feet under. Come fight outside your dominion if you're so tough.
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>>154111417
winds of death?
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>>154111941
>what is MR
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>>154112004
>I realized I was gonna get hit so I moved those troops elsewhere but the battle still happened there for some reason, and I recall reading that a smaller army can't stop a larger army or something. Oh well guess I got more manual reading to do.
Dude, that was teleport or cloud trapeze AKA magic phase movement. Read that manual fragment RIGHT FUCKING NOW or get out of my face.
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>>154112007
RoS
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>>154112016
>What is effort.
There still is a chance your F3 gets gibbed with full MR gear. Not a fun prospect on a StR old mage.
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>>154112007
Turn 1 RoS.

>>154112168
Oh, she looked like she was right in the nearby province so I assumed he sent her by foot.
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>>154112267
Post a part of your message log for the turn. Magic phase battles are usually at the very beginning.
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>>154112253
No risk, no reward
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>>154112004
>Come fight outside your dominion if you're so tough.
What would change? You didn't kill my pretender anyway :^)

I will soon.
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>1st commander on army screen is scripted to use light of the north star
>They have a clam of pearls and the right magic paths
>Most other commanders are reliant on light of the north star for their scripts
>1st commander uses liquid body
Why did this happen? Was it just because they were against minor PD? Will this happen again when I send them against a real army?
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>>154112267
>snake bladder stick
NO COUNTER
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>>154112529
There are triggers for magic gem spending use.

It's either Mage with sufficient paths and 4+ gems, a unit with 15+ gems in items, a sufficient HP ratio between armies (not sure exactly what this ratio is), or a minimum number of enemy HP on the field (not sure what this number is either). A small amount of PD will not trigger gem use.
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>>154112665
Thank you! I've got a decisive battle coming up and I can't afford to lose due to amateur shit.
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>>154112779
Don't worry. There are a million ways you can lose your decisive battle due to amateur shit.
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>>154112475
>What would change? You didn't kill my pretender anyway :^)

Well yeah 'cause I didn't expect a battle (and was expecting Winds not Stones) and 'cause it wasn't my lich killing squad. But I guess these can just be passed off as excuses, so I won't comment further. We'll see eventually in the game.
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I wanted to rush a neighbor but going by bless and pretender titles all of my good targets took E6 Awake Erf Snek because they're boring as fuck.

How dangerous is snek really?
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>>154113152

Snek will fall to 3-4 skelespammers but you probably won't fight it alone.
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>>154113152
Alone, it just one attack per square. Most mindless summons can keep it at bay for a long time. Its only defense is its prot so AN attacks are great. It's also cold blooded so it'll conk out quickly in the cold.
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>>154113152
Snek is very durable with 210 base hit points and 26 protection with typical E6. However, it has only one attack so it's not killy in the slightest and if we're talking about very early game, it'll also pass out without Earthpower. It's also cold-blooded so if the enemy doesn't have heat dominion, it's terrible in the winter.

If you have high damage high morale troops, you can very well take it on even without magic. However, if combined with troops, the snake will of course be more powerful because it eats hits (but doesn't get surrounded such that it can be killed) while providing a fear aura. And if we're not talking about very early game, it can cast some nice earth spells like Maws of Earth.
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How dangerous would you say a group of 30-40 barbarians are for an Azi?
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>>154115578
Barbs are a coin flip for most pretenders. Azi will either breathe fire and rout them turn 1 or get one-shotted turn 2.
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>>154115679
And even if the barbarians don't instantly rout and Azi survives, there's a good chance it will get afflictions.

It's too risky business even if you have dom9.
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>>154108431

I'll help you with whatever magic items I can. Ask and ye shall receive.
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>>154113152
snek is terrible without spells and perhaps items.and mediocre with them too.

it menages to expand only because militias come in small squads and has 10 morale.
a big chunk of sacreds(or high damage anything) with more than 13 morale will eat it easily.

i am not sure but i think it would need both a prot buff and fatigue neutrality to not route to 40 heavy infantry with sermon of courage.
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Is this a decent thug chassi?
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>>154117780
what bless?
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>>154117872

No bless to speak of. Just wonder if I can use it for something. Random event character.
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>>154117780
You probably want to use him as commander
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>>154118085

Bogarus can recrui the same leadership guys in any castle, 120 leadership with +1 inspirational.

Not as good stats tho.
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>mari is at it again
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>>154117780
19 def on a mounted commander is ok.
Overall I'd say he's shit. What makes Vanheim's commanders thugable is the Air magic, mistform paired with glamour and high defence makes you one tough to kill mofo. I think even with brand+vine shield and N9 this thug would die too much to warrant the gem usage.
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>>154118151
give him a brand and have him fight in your army
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>>154118151
You can never have enough commanders
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>>154117780
>>154117939
Short answer: No
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>>154119780
He does however have very nice leadership. Use him for leading your troops for that tasty tasty morale.
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Can a master-lich use berserk on himself? it says it doesn't work on inanimate units, but i guess it means lifeless yes?
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>>154121224
It does what it says and therefore no, he cannot.
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>>154121224
why would you even do that
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>>154121312
>>154121224
Anyway mages wont use berserk on mages.

If you put 2 mages together and tell one to cast berserk, he will go offscript.
But however if your nature mage has a unit or a magic-less commander close, he will cast berserker on that unit/commander.
For the spell AI, berserker on mages seems like a debuff and they try to avoid it.

I tried it to make my thugs not rout against lemuria, but the nature mages refused to cast berserker on my them.
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>>154118168
will it ever end
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>>154121604
berserk is actually vital on thugs that the enemy can't kill but can't kill the enemy before autoroute.
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>>154122351
Lich with proper paths can rout almost anything except kitted SCs.
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Hey, Arco, are you around. I'm in the interest of stopping the Snek Bowl we appear to have on our hands.

No one wants Snek vs Snek combat. Well, okay, maybe everyone else does, but we shouldn't. It's a silly place, and we shouldn't go there.
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>>154123996
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>>154123996
Why the fuck would you take erfsnek as Hinnom?!
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>>154124876
better then a scales derm (most embarassing pretender I used in an actual game)
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What is the rejakor meme about?
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>>154098890

Ya home?
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>>154125041
Rejakor is not a meme, he's the best Dom4 player in the world.
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>>154124876
It's Archaea, you either have good sacred recruits you plan on using, take an Awake expander, or DIE.

Or are UW.

The snek is because I forgot to change my pretender after Therados joined. Grabbing some of the Med would have been lovely, but some things can't be helped.
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>>154124098
SNEKBOWL

THREE SNEKS ENTER

ONE SNEK LEAVES

or all three leave because the other two rout
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Hey Vanheim, as you can see that province is in my capring, as the right one. I'm going to take them this turn, I suppose that won't be a problem.
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>>154123996
>>154124876
I'm angry. Angry about Hinnoms that took a SNAKE instead of an awake N9
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We must Live!
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SERECT YOUR CARACTER
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>>154126512
ERMOR
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>>154126512
Caelum. Go with those quickened mages.

Dom:PPP is virtually unplayable, though. I tried playing it recently and even Dom3 feels extremely clunky.
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>>154126753
SERECT YOUR DIFFICURTY

>>154126818
TOO RATE
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>>154126901
Lich Queen
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>>154126901
Prince of death
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>>154126945
RICH QUEEN

ARE YOU A BOY OR A GIRR?
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>>154127140
Rejakor
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>>154108431
Yeah you'll be getting help.

As annoying as it is for Ermor, you pretty much have to accept that people are going to try to get rid of you.
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>>154127447
SERECT YOUR REJAKOR
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>>154127729
Man
It's a shame some of those graphics aren't used any more. The new ones look more polished and realistic, but there's something about those color choices that isn't in the new art, and even the images that are still used tend to get fucked by the scaling algorithm.
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>>154127729
That magic selection screen is straight out of master of magic
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>>154127729
Dom10
Awake
D9W9N4
T3S3C3L3
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Hey there, I can see someone's dominion in that farm.
Who are you? No need to ask me here, but are you up for some blind diplo in the steamchat?
I'll be waiting in there.
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Game: RealmofRoaringScrubs
Turn number 1
Next turn due: 06:32 GMT on Friday September 9th

Agartha 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Midgard 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
>Patala Waiting for 2h file
Ragha 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Bogarus 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Utgard 2h file received
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>>154128380
jeesus christ has anything changed?
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>>154129176
I didn't think the game would start this quickly. I'll be back Friday evening, though, so don't worry.
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Kichikuo_Domg

New LA game

14 players
MF 45
LA
yes the first player in lemuria
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>>154129461
>yes the first player in lemuria

And last player.
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>>154129523
>implying R'lyeh won't join
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>>154128343
As it turns out, Dom1 had fixed bless mechanics and no pretender path-bless dependency. Basically, bless is just a straight up increase of stats, and sacreds can be also blessed with burning weapons. Ermor's sacreds get that shit.
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>>154129772
Is this LA Ermor, or is there only dead-Ermor in Dom1?
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>>154127602
>>154108431
Belatedly, first time as MA Arco and figured 'hey surely i can take Ermor early if I get right in there. I have solar rays which is anti-undead!'.
Turns out it's not anti-giant freespawn stack without a shit-ton of mages spamming it. And all my guys are piercing against pierce-resistant skellingtons. Wow this was a bad plan.

I have a backup plan i'm enacting but no idea how it'll go. Note, his pretender is also over here with me.
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>>154129885
There are no ages in Dom1. This is ded Ermor with freespawn, Dusk Elders, and all you love it for.

Vanheim, for example, has vans (MA), valkyries (Helheim), and fey boars.
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>>154129909
I hope it's fire and earth elemental spamming communions
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>>154129523
Exactly my thoughts.
It seems like every game on /domg/ has cancer. If not the players, then the nations.
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Let's do this.

Gotta wonder where Illfraud got the real photo of Rejakor though.
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Okay, we're up against """Impossible""" AIs that are known to domdie at turn 2.

As you can see, game interface is a bit dated.

Ermor starts without any mages at all, but the fact that there's no option for getting dormant/imprisoned pretender kind of balances it out.

There was an option to spend 100 dominion points to get our castles built in 1 turn, but I didn't take it. That would be cheating. 3 turns is a lot more fair.
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>>154131145
>Latium
>stretches all the way to the Adriatic
Madness.
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>>154131145
Sail to Byzantium!
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Besides shitty interface there are a few differences between Dom1 and Dom4 in the magic department.

You can boost resarch with astral pearls, you can alchemize fire and earth gems into gold from your lab (for 15/10 gold per gem respectively) like in Master of Magic.

And here are your 14 magic item slots in your lab. Use them wisely.
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>>154130019
Now that we were on the topic, I decided to install Dominions 2 to show how it does things in case someone's interested. There's a number of "special dominions" (you can only have one) that can trigger a variety of effects. There are generic ones (for example, Desert Sun dominion spreads heat scales beyond your borders, ie. how Abysia now works) but many nations also have national special dominions dependent on scales. For example, Pangaea has New Era (Must have P1) and Carrion Woods (requires G2 and M1) special Dominions which are LA Pan and Asphodel respectively (Carrion Woods in Dominions 3 was a national global spell available for Pangaea).
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Also, gotta love unit order list. They don't make them like they used to. Hey, Caelum. Congrats on your turn 1 victory.

Also, battles are fucking painful to watch. We'll get to them later.
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What's the best one-handed arms item for mages that aren't boosters? I was thinking of giving them either Scepters of Authority or Summer Swords.
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Disciples games
The disciples inherit the pretender´s dominion´s traits, like domkill and respawn

What about nopreach and blood sac?
Is it per nation?
Will a disciple to mictlan also blood sac and no preach?
Will lanka as disciple still get bonus for blood hunting in turmoil?

Also, is triple-bless remotely viable in EA 3 players teams?

Post opinions
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>>154132129
Well, Rune Smashes is great if you're casting MRN spells.

However, generally speaking you don't want to equip mages.
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>>154127729
>choose your castle
>>154131982
>choose your dominion
>these features were cut
wtf I hate Illfraud now.
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This is a battle.

Do you see that pause button?

It doesn't work.

Hotkeys don't work too.
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>>154132210
MRN?
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>>154132459
Magic Resistance Negates
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>making a very Dominions-like strategy game, at least thematically
>really hard to not be too similar in themes because Dominions covers fucking everything
>always have that nagging feeling of "man this sure reminds me of Dominions!"

Oh well paraphrasing Bill Gates: "I went to the local library to steal mythology but found that Illwinter had already stolen it".
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>>154132689
why not rip off endless legend instead
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>>154132237
Well, the special themes were replaced by three ages, offering far greater opportunities for worldbuilding with the number of nations being pretty much tripled and the new nations often being more distinct from each other than the themes were (certainly in Dom4 in which they've grown further apart). I think changing themes to nations was a good change, although the idea of special dominions is neat. The generic one in Dom2 are mostly garbage (for example, who the fuck would take Golem Cult besides Agartha?) but that doesn't mean new better ones couldn't be thought of.

Removal of castles as an option is kinda the same deal. As seen in Dom4 in which most nations can choose different types of fort, you almost always go for the cheapest one (and that's when you don't have to pay design points for "better" ones). And it's a kinda thematic change as well, it doesn't make sense for Pangaea to be building Dark Citadels.
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>>154131982
>LA Pan
Wait, LA Pan has a Dominion special? Or does it just give them LA units?
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>>154133271
It's basically just giving them LA units.
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>>154132173
>What about nopreach and blood sac?
Nation based
>Will a disciple to mictlan also blood sac and no preach?
No; a Mictlan disciple needs to blood sac to spread its master's dom.
>Will lanka as disciple still get bonus for blood hunting in turmoil?
Never tested this, but I think it's national too
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>>154132771
Because, much like Illwinter, I have a very big interest in mythology and more "classical" designs. Mind you not really an issue, the similarities would just be in the inspirational material.

I do like Endless Legend's style too though.
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>>154133458
Post itt again if you need alpha testers or even if you're looking for help making it.
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Found our new prophet.
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What games are there where I can become the ideal Kaiserreich and bend Europe towards German hegemony?
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So, how about a Dom3 MP game sometime?
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>>154133936
return of reverse communion and unstoppable SCs huh?
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Any EA games starting up right now?

>>154133602
Yeah will do, that was the initial plan anyway. Will be a few more months though.
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>>154133936
CBM or no CBM?

Anyway, I suppose I could join. It'd be like discovering new strategies and tactics again now that I've fully grown used to Dom4 ones. And rediscovering an inferior UI for that matter.

>>154134048
Don't forget gem generators if playing vanilla.
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>>154132129
For S mages that can cast gate I recommend whips and crowns of command.
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>>154134728
>Gateway

>Not Astral Travel
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Will be back and ready to fulfill my badmin responsibilities in about 3 or 4 hours. Staler in current game will be set to AI and a new game will be made (I still plan to keep the current game up and will continue playing until it ends or everyone but me is AI). I don't know what the verdict is regarding which versions of ME and summod will work together so if anyone has new info that would be great. Other info or suggestions on map, settings, and mods are welcome too as long as they don't change things too much.
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I'm a newbie and i fucking love the lizards of C'tis. I mean, fucking lizard necromancers, it's the perfect game for me.
Also i'm looking at the spell tree, and it's fucking huge. I was wondering, do i take over provinces with troops only? I've seen a spell (animate skeleton or horde of skeletons, don't remember) that summons tons of skeletons for NO GEMS, but works on the battlefield only.
May i use some of my necromancers with few or no troops to take over provinces by swarming the enemy with skeletons? If so, how many mages are ideal for neutral territories?
I used the Great Sauromancer as my God, the Saurolich looked cool too, but it costed less points and i put all my points in good dominion (10), 3 turmoil, 3 heat and 3 fortune, magic, production and growth, with very little magic (i went with something like Death 4, 1 earth and 1 nature), i guess i fucked up, but i liked the idea of having very nice income from my lands.

Finally, any tips for C'tis (i've played EA and MA for now, but i guess they are similiar except for troops) are welcome, especially the early expansion (my troops look great, but they actually aren't that resilient). Thanks in advance boys, loving the game.
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>>154136332
Good, I can play both to feed my pbem addiction.
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>>154137345
>3 turmoil
>very nice income
anon you are cute!
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>>154137345
You've managed to hit the nail on the head, well done! Horde of skeletons from mages is a staple of C'tis battlemagic.
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>>154137345
>3 turmoil
>income

>lizard
>liking cold

Everything is wrong.
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>>154137723
he actually took heat 3
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>>154132689
Is it sprite based?
Got any artwork done?
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>>154137461
Well yeah, i'm actually -5% income, but i guess more resources, supplies, magic and good events are worth it? or have i fucked up?
>>154137531
Thank god, so i didn't waste my research time by going there (i figured that many of my mages had Death 2, so i was wondering of an army made up by necromancers swarming the enemy in undeads). So how many mages would be enough for the average neutral province? And how many for an average difficulty Throne of ascension? I'll definetly test this, but i'd hate to send too few or too many in battle, since they are also my main magic researchers.
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>>154137345
>May i use some of my necromancers with few or no troops to take over provinces by swarming the enemy with skeletons? If so, how many mages are ideal for neutral territories?
A few horde of skeleton casters make for a decent raiding force.

Also, about pretender design, C'tis doesn't need or want a bless in EA or MA (can be good in LA with sacred undead tomb wyrms), lots of positive scales like growth and order is what they want since they want to spam sauromancers like crazy and drown everything in skeletons. Dominion 10 is complete overkill, 6 is perfectly fine. One option for expansion is an awake E6 Earth Snake, which is thematic, relatively cheap and also pretty easy to use. Just don't send it alone against anything other than indies (and not undead or 60 barbarians since your erf snek only attacks once a turn and beats indies mostly by tanking hits and scaring them away ), and be careful of cold dominion (since all of your stuff is cold blooded and will tire out much more quickly when it's cold).
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>>154137345
Talking about EA/MA (LA is quite different):

Horde of Skeletons is very good. You usually want a few troops to protect your mages from cavalry or archers, but the actual fighting should be done by skeletons.

You don't need anywhere 10 dominion. 5-7 is probably a good number.

You don't really need production 3 either, since you mainly rely on skeletons summoned by mages rather than troops in a fight. For expansion use Slave Warriors with a few shielded medium infantry to arrowcatch. They're very killy and cost next to no resources.

Take death 5 if you're going to take death magic. It gets you Tartarian access later in the game. At least E2 is important if you're going to take earth as it lets you summon troll kings to get more earth mages. Nature is pretty useless on your pretender, C'tis has very good nature access natively.

Overall, that's a pretty good pretender build for a newbie. I've seen far worse.
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>>154137723
I took heat 3, i know that lizards are cold blooded anon. Is turmoil 3 that bad? i fugred that in combination with Luck i have almost 50% more events, and it shows.
I don't know if i did the right thing by picking 10 dominion points, but i thought that, if i went with nice scales for my lands, i could have needed more Dominion to help it convert conquered territories to my nice scales.
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>>154137798
Read the picture.
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>>154137345

Ench5 for Horde of Skeletons also gives you a few other C'tis Staples. Namely Foul Vapors (lizards resist poison) and Quagmire (all your shit has swamp survival). For MA C'tis, at least. LA doesn't have the paths to cast those.

On the other hand, LA has the paths for Banefire, in evocation, and your combat casters are universally Sacred, which is a big deal, because c'tis has amazing priests, and you do want a regen bless for tomb sneks, which are phenomenal tar pits. N9Ex does very well, as LA C'tis.

Also Empoisoners are great.
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>>154137345
t. Pan
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>>154137948
Turmoil + luck is generally poorer at getting money than going order, but also doesn't overall cost points. Generally by the time you have them most neutral provinces will be gone, 1 is enough to defeat the level of provicne defense most people leave but for a dedicated army you want upwards of a dozen to be safe.
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>>154138010
Oh, i see, good to know then, my sauromancers are actually my favourite unit. Why Earth 6 on the snake though? wouldn't it be better to just use him awake and put the rest in scales?
>>154138217
So 7 Dominion can be fine? I've read that if my dominion wanes, i lose. Do i build temples like crazy or is 7-6 dominion just fine on its own?
Good call on the slaves, i thought they'd betray me immediatly, but maybe they can tear enemies apart before they run cowardly away.
Looked up Tartarian Gate, and do i basically summon the gods imprisoned by Zeus? It costs only 10 gems though, so are they strong? Are they units or commanders?

Also thanks for all the tips guys, this general is cool and chill.
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>>154138229

Your dominion strength increases by 1 for every five temples built, and also increases in cost for each level. It's generally not worth going higher than 9 to start.

This said, as cold-blooded, it's important to push temp scales, so your lizardmen don't die in the cold. High dom as c'tis is rarely a bad idea, but you could probably have gotten a couple of scales or a good amount of extra magic in the points it cost to get from 9 to 10.
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>>154137345
>Penguin of D00m: /domg/ edition
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>>154139014
Slaves can't desert, just have lower morale but also lower upkeep + taskmaster increases their morale.
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>>154139014
E6 on an Erf snek is good because it's relatively cheap, let you cast every single earth combat spell straight off the bat, and because earth magic increases protection and the extra 5 points of protection can be pretty helpful when the snek is butting its head against indies. You can go to E4 for something a bit cheaper and still a decent protection increase, any lower than that and you have to be pretty careful with it.
Also, getting domkilled when you have 6+ dominion is really unlikely to just happen normally unless you're incredibly far behind or are being deliberately dompushed, which the AI doesn't do as far as I know.
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>>154138746
It's also worth noting that many of the events are tied to scales and order actually unlocks a good number of gold events (markets being held and such like) so there's a good chance you'd get more gold from events with order 3 and a point in misfortune than with turmoil 3 luck 3.

Turmoil-luck isn't by any means a bad combination but generally speaking it's something you'd take if you are more concerned with gems than gold, you get something out of turmoil or if you're really stretched for design points. C'tis is often considered a "scales nation" that really benefits from high income.
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>>154137832
Sprites on 3D terrain like the original Medieval Total War when it comes to small stuff (imagine anything below size 4 in Dominions, so cavalry, humans, etc.), large units (i.e. giants, hydras, whatever) will be 3D models. No real art yet since I've been working on the basics and still got some ways to go on that (thankfully the really annoying parts, like pathfinding, are mostly done), so right now they are grey rectangles.

I won't shit up the thread with offtopic, so I'll post some progress when it's actually tangible, like when the city building component is done, hopefully soon.
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>>154139014
Also, Tartarians are ridiculously good for their price, being strong mages and really tough to kill, but most of them that you summon will be feebleminded (plus additional afflictions), and so can't cast any spells, have a status called shattered soul which means they are insane and will do random things 25% of the time (when they're commanders) , and they will also be a mix of commanders and units.
To make the most out of them, you need a global enchantment called gift of health, which can heal undead afflictions (and is the only thing that can), and a spell called gift of reason which will turn the unit tartarians into commanders which can then cast spells.
Tarts without gift of health up are still a reasonable death gem dump, since they're massive fear causing high MR sacks of health, and occasionally you get one that isn't feebleminded. Definitely one of the best lategame spells in general, and extremely strong if you have GoH and can spam gift of reason. Hard to pull off in an actual multiplayer game if people are paying attention, though.
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>>154139014
>It costs only 10 gems though, so are they strong? Are they units or commanders?
Some are commanders (I think it was about 20%, but they can be made commanders with Gift of Reason or Divine Name spells), some are units, and they're generally afflicted with wounds and insanity caused by their perpetual torment.

200ish HP units for 10 death gems is a decent deal for soaking damage spells but the way Tartarian Gate is ideally utilized is with Gift of Health that heals their afflictions (such as Feebleminded, preventing even the commanders from casting spells) and turning units into commanders. Tartarians are very powerful mages (the weakest, Tartarian Monstrum, has 2+2 random paths, while Tartarian Titans have 3+2+2 randoms, Tartarian Cyclops have fixed E4 or E3+A2 paths that are guaranteed to be good paths) and can provide every possible path combination for complete magic diversity, and besides deploying them as extremely durable spellcasters, it is possible to give them some magical equipment and send them fighting either solo or as part of the armies.
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New thread, anyone?

>>154129461
Hey, you got a player! Maybe switch the map to a smaller one and start the game :^)
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>>154141243
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Kichikuo_Domg
Oh, are we doing a tiny game? I'm down to have a three way duel between Ragha, Atlantis, and Lemuria :^)
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>>154138464
>N9Ex

N9B9 bby
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>>154141808

Much better for Tomb Sneks, much worse for Sauromancers.

YMMV.
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>>154141964
well I guess I got lucky in my game, I got a blood site early so I can afford to drop boots of youth on everything basically
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>Bats still eating people
>No one stopping them

You guys gonna do anything yet or do we just let him win?
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>>154143037
I don't neighbor them so instead I'm doing my part by leaving my neighbors who do neighbor them alone.
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>>154143037
I just went in, but monkeys are having trouble because of Order 3 and bats are annoying as fuck so I'm expecting to have to fight off lots of little armies all over my shit as per usual when against shitty air rats
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So there are these guys in here.
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>>154143912
And they killed these ones.
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>>154143912
>no B9
So, what will be your battlefield-clear spell of choice?
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Game: ToDistractYourselfFromLifeProblems
Turn number 2
Next turn due: 04:10 GMT on Thursday September 8th

Agartha 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Helheim 2h file received
Kailasa 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Niefelheim 2h file received
>Pangaea Waiting for 2h file
R'lyeh 2h file received
Sauromatia 2h file received
Tir na n'Og 2h file received
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>>154143912
>>154145002
>>154145264
fuck this gay earth
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>>154145590
It's okay buddy, both Ermor and Xibalba are perfectly balanced in summod. You can win this.
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>>154145590
You should make a steam account so you can talk to the other people in the steam group chat.
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>>154145506
real life got in the way, just got home from work and will send in my turn soon
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>>154145976
guaranteed replies
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>>154145976
You need to have actually purchased steam games to use chat at all. I pretty much play nothing but dominions.
>>154145683
I'd be more sanguine if I didn't have such a ridiculously shitty start.
>17 provinces a player
>get stuck on an edge, right between the lake and a throne
>The 4th indie province I attack I collide with tribless ermor
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>>154143912
Also these guys.
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>>154146479
Just buy a second copy of Dominions so you can play two nations at once, pretty much anyone who's serious about winning does it.
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>>154146651
this
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>>154146651
This is what I've been doing wrong.

Prepare for toadal annihilation
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new thread when?
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Thinking of giving Dom a second try. Got some questions:
a) domg usually plays with Ohlman's Worthy Heroes and Sum1won mod, correct?
b)"You should be aiming to have around 12+ provinces and a second fort finished or close to completion at the end of the first year." Is this still right?
c)Can anyone point me to a guide/guideline for thugging. Last time I played tried to fiddle with it a bit, decked out EA(I think) Caelum berd with liquid body(??? the spell that protects from hits, until someone hits you hard) that got me some provinces and then got hit by Barbarian losing liquid body and quickly died.
d)The most important question: How do I magic? Is everything tailored to your choice of strategy and your race, so there's no general advice? I have hard time grasping magic, I look at magic and can't understand what would level X of magic A would bring me, why would I want it, etc.
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>>154147661
>>154147661
>>154147661
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