/agdg/ - Always Gonna Dev General

first for unity is garbage

Second for still no Discord link in the copypasta

>>153957864
What language are the cool kids using?
Is learning Pygame worth it?

fourth for COWBOYVANIA games

>>153958079
Python and Pygame both suck.

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>finished basic gameplay
>finally implemented level clears and deaths
>tfw now I have to make levels for DDX and I have no idea how to make fun levels or effectively teach my mechanics

>>153958049
Given any thought to a new fail screen?
The current one looks very out of place.

>>153958079
Learn Lua and Love2D if you're a beginner.

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>>153957864
Care to share some of your favorite pieces of low poly artwork/assets for inspiration sake anons?

>Source """"engine"""" will never be included in the OP again
Feels good.

>>153958239
>>>/qa/

>could begin drinking and deving right now
>only have gin and no mixer
I need tonic water

>>153958148
I will make a new one right now and you post feedback when ready.

>couldn't even make a map in garry's mod
:|

not first for reminder not to reply to attention whores who have little to no game

>>153958079
Gonna echo the other anon, if you know python. Learning lua shouldn't take much longer.

>>153944996
Arikado didn't post that, I did. Most of the art in the game is made by Arikado.

>>153945123
There is an outline around the sprite briefly after absorbing the blood blobs.

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>>153958232

>>153958352
o-okay

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>>153958232
I'll dump some but you can have this in the meantime:
https://mega.nz/#F!gNAj3R7R!ISIXl4QrxF4ADzxC8NFpaA

>>153957668
You should only idea guy if you are drinking more than a buzz. If you are getting sloshed, bar yourself from your code.

>>153958079
If you want to use Python you might as well use Godot, the language is close to Python and it preforms way better than Pygame ever will.

>>153958448
I dig it.

>tried to run arikado off the board
>couldn't
>still salty

>>153958334
>I only have mixer.
I'll trade you.

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>>153958448

>never came close to making a game
>couldn't even make a simple map in hammer
>hides out in steamchat and shitposts his political opinions in agdg instead
>gets all his posts deleted routinely exposing his samefagging
>doesn't kill himself

>show normie roommate game
>not impressed
fuck you guys lied to me.

>>153958773
steamchat isnt even a thing anymore newfag

>>153958817
Is it done yet?
Normie's only see polished finished products so that's what they expect to see.

>>153958658
That's a freaky face

>>153958817
Did it have music, anon.

Even bfxr music makes simple games look amazing to normies.

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>>153958448

>>153958658
scary

>>153958817
What game is it?

>>153959000
yeah, he liked the music.

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>>153958725
>once did a gamejam with a musicfag
>game was done in html5/js/canvas
>fucker sent me a 1.4 GB raw music file and went all muh autistic sterophilia when i told him he had to compress it

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>>153958658

>>153958884
>not a thing
so can it be removed from the OP already?

>>153959209
FLAC

>>153959209
>he actually sent you the raw .wav
madman

Wish there was a solution for .wavs though, hearing them compressed is depressing.

>>153958817
I showed my roommates my game and they thought it was cool. But I think they were just being polite.

>>153959543
Just convert them to .midi

Location::153959602
(You)

>>153959209
>1.4 GB raw music file
Was it 15 minutes long? It would have had to have been 32 bit 192 Khz audio for like 15 minutes or something to get that big.

>>153959543
Hit bitrate compressed audio is indistinguishable from uncompressed audio.

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>>153958442

>>153958183
>>153958386
I tried Love2d but if feels like I'm trading a toy for another toy.

>>153958528
I tried Godot too. Do you know where I can find good Godot tutorials?

>>153959576
he said he liked it but seemed super un-interested.

>>153959576
Never show people your hobbies unless you know it's rad as fuck and that they are interested in it.

>>153959675
>Hit bitrate
I meant high bitrate

>>153959686
I think it's too sudden, make the various elements fade in,

>>153959759
I was drunk

>>153959759
Unless your hobby is music and you can play music they like

>>153959734
Maybe your hook wasn't doing it for him? What is it?

>>153959731
Here's two lists of tutorials, demos, and open source games that is helpful for learning
https://godot-engine.zeef.com/andre.antonio.schmitz
https://github.com/Calinou/awesome-godot

>>153959675
t. my apple earbuds and headphone jack
>>153959686
change the skull to something cartoony
instead of the whole screen, have a central pop-up box with a thin frame.
shorten it to just "<bind> or <bind2> to: Restart and start on word highlighting for faster and more engaging reading.

>>153959947
t. 10 years of music production

>>153959923
Thank you

If Anubis dev is here, do you know of any popular furry internet personalities? Trying to meme the fuck out of my game.

>>153959997
t. my ass

Is sketchup a good 3D model software?

Go ahead nerds, ask me where my game is, I fucking dare you

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>computer is so shitty i'm programming on wordpad

>>153960247
Where
is
your
mage?

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>>153960247
lookin for ur game

>>153960187
>>153959997
>>153959947
None of those are transitive verbs

>>153960291
Use vim if you have no ide

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>>153960305

Fuck that.

WHERE
IS
YOUR
KNIGHT

KNAVE

>>153960187
You'll never tell the difference between 320Kb/s MP3 and CD quality WAV. OGG as it happens supports up to 450Kb/s. So even if you want to be autistic about your sound quality you can (and should) have reasonable file sizes.

If your game is less than 1GB, no one will take it seriously

>>153960502
Yes, I was just saying, it'd be nice to be able to use .wav in the real world due to it being as close to 1:1 as possible.

>>153960291
If your computer is that shitty get notepad++

If your game transitions areas too quickly, it will look amateurish, add loading screens and occasional framerate drop or no one will take it seriously

>>153960598
My game is under 3 mb.

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design progress

>>153960598
Last demo day hardly anything over 200mb was being downloaded. People even bitched about my game being 70mb.
It's 31mb now

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>>153960598
>>153960720

If I want to make a dash mechanic where you double tap a movement key in a certain direction a la kirby, would this be the easiest way to do it? Using gm

-first keypress sets an alarm, hspeed set to walk speed
-if keypress and alarm isn't 0 set hspeed to dashing

>>153960753
Is this some kind of ravenloft turn-based rpg? I like it, looks interesting.

>>153960931
that's basically how double-click works
except you don't use a timer, you just store the timestamp of the last keypress, and do currentTime-lastTime <= dashInterval

>>153960940
it's more like japanese schoolgirls and yakuza drivers fighting against cosmic horror

anybody got that low poly - high-res texture image of a "bullet man", rocket man or something?

it's like a 50's space man with a jetpack and bullet helmet i think. Red, bronze colors i think

>>153960940
That's Junji Ito you dingus!

>>153960864
>he fell for the procedural meme

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Got the basics of the first part of the main quest implemented. It is not very complicated. There are 4 zones and in each zone there's something you have to interact with. The part I still have to do is the final dungeon, which will be an indoor zone (I don't have any indoor areas yet) so I will probably have a lot more learning and coding to do for it.

I had to change a bunch of stuff with the quest system too. Now quests can support any number of prerequisite quests instead of just 1, and they don't appear in the quest log anymore. Also, if the first task in a quest is talking to someone, it doesn't appear (it shows up in the title as: received quest from x). Also I had to add in a little hack so that if you find a statue before talking to the NPC, it automatically triggers all 4 subquests.

>>153960931
Yes.

>>153961090
Same thing.

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So I'm trying to add some fire particles to my fire sword attack and I needed a placeholder in the mean time.

"dagger" was the first thing that popped into my head.

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>>153961206
it's this pic but there was a larger version

>>153961185
Sounds neat. Where can I follow your progress? Tell me more about the game.

What's a good way for scripting point-to-point movement in GML that circumvents the "Bouncing" when it reaches a point?

I've tried plenty of different ways that work to a point, but I'm interested to see what the most efficient way would be.

>>153961632
I think you should keep it like that or make another ability that shoots daggers.

>>153961685
Move the minimum of (distance to point) and (speed * delta time).

Ok I want to learn a language. I'd like to do this partly by making a game (also open to enginedev). I'd also like the language to be some mix of interesting/fun (example: java is not fun, haskell is fun) and viable for a job (example: java is viable, haskell is not).

I'm thinking maybe C# but I don't know anything about it. I've learned bits of: sql, ruby, c++, R, haskell. Obviously I'm kind of a fan of haskell, with its lovely types and functionalness but cabal was a shitshow last I looked. Plus it's not great for jobs.

I've lurked here a lot so I'm aware of the tools and languages that come up for the most part. And as far as type of game, probably I'd be best served by a roguelike, or anyhow 2D. I want to get into shaders and someone linked some cool shit once but I've lost it by now.

Bunch of only vaguely /agdg/-related shit, sorry about that but thanks any advice.

Preemptive because I leave for work in 30 minutes and I won't be back til Tuesday

==|AGDG Weekly Recap|==
Game Name: Retribution (WIP)
Dev Name: HeartTrauma
Tools Used: Love2D
Website(s): hts-johnnyc.tumblr.com
Progress:
+ Enemy can move linearly or via a bez curve. Enemy movement/speed/time can all be controlled by writing a single line of code.
+ Drafted out half of stage 1 from backgrounds, enemies and their placement, bullets, etc..
+ Have an awesome song for Stage 1 made by https://soundcloud.com/prutte-1
+ Players have two shot types now Type-Takumi and Type-Vodka
+ Created a tilemap module though I haven't had a chance to see if it actually works.
+ Drew a few tilemaps, they're ugly as sin
+ Primitive scoring system implemented, enemies drop medals when killed.
+ I have a new job
- All my work hours are incredibly inconvenient

>>153961185
stealing this

>>153961824
there's a bunch of modern roguelikes made with unity and sdl and the like
there's always classic ncurses though
c++ and c# are pretty much your options if you want something that's not completely useless

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>>153958232

>>153961824
I don't think there's a single "employable" language that's fun to use and also suitable for game development. Maybe, just maybe, Scala or F#, since you already like functional programming?

>>153962021
Don't do this to me anon.

Ah, too late
>tfw no low poly AW game
>tfw no new AW game ever

>>153961848
Post your pic and I can repost for you when the recap happens

>>153961953
Cool thanks. That's sort of what I was thinking. And plus I've mostly ever done "high level" programming, though I'm not great at that even, but it recently occured to me that I'm not scared away from lower level stuff at all. In fact I could see myself really getting into it.

I know a little about C++, it wasn't bad to program in. A university course I was in got me as far as linked lists and it was all fine. How different is C#? I think unity allows scripting in C# right? Not sure if I'd go as full-blown as Unity, wouldn't mind just sticking to something simpler so I (mostly) understand all the pieces.

In a game that is supposed to have money as a focal point, how do you make sure it maintains its value?

Expensive one time purchases and fees/taxes/temp buffs/consumables/etc act as a reoccurring money sink but at a point you run out of things to buy.

In Harvest Moon once you have upgraded all your farm facilities, woo'd your girl and bought the ridiculously expensive summer home you lose all motivation to grow crops for cash.

Motherload once you bought all the equipment upgrades and enough C4 to kill Satan you were done and minerals lost all value.

Recettear once you pay off your debt you have no use for cash and can sell items for 1 pix just to upgrade the adventure's gear and the final shop upgrade was unnecessary. Kamidori had a very similar problem.

In games with player based economies the economy is usually kept stable by either having massive money sinks for the top ~5% and/or by constantly releasing new content for players to trade money for in addition to standard money sinks.

I'd like to make a game that is >fun beyond the final facility/town/equipment/whatever upgrade. I feel like this may just be a core problem with currency period however considering irl all you can do is have a bank account with 4 billion in it or build more stores with it.

>>153962142
Yeah that's right, F# was kind of on my radar but my vague impression is it was a sort of "dead on arrival" language even though it's backed by heavy industry people.

>>153962208
Don't listen to anyone who will tell you otherwise, C# is a beautiful language. The only problem is that it's tied down to MS.

>>153961824
If you want to get into shaders plus want to get into a "useful" language, then I suggest C++ with OpenGL. C++ is not as painful as it looks like first with OOP and pointers. You can pick that up as you go along and try to optimize your code.

However I think you should check the job application possibilities in your area if this is your main priority. Where I live, I rarely see C# devs, almost never C++ devs, but there is a huge demand for Java devs.

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>>153961640
http://desertgame.tumblr.com/
I'm the laziest tumblr user though.

the game itself, tl;dr version
>card game time waster
>choose a character with unique stats and the BBEG for the game
>you have X weeks (turn = day) to solve Y mysteries which are a series of events
>mysteries will have a "path of progress", meaning each event can be taken from different location piles - there will be unique events for hospitals, schools, seaside etc

>>153962406
I'm (eventually) relocatable so I don't mind something available strictly in my area or not. Plus, diving into a new language can only help, right? At least experience with C++ could get me good enough to contribute to some open source stuff, etc. Thanks

>>153962380
Ok I'll keep that in mind thanks.

>>153962368
Well, as a language it's not nearly as good as OCaml, which it's based off of. But it's still functional, and can use all .Net libraries, such as MonoGame.

That said, C# has a lot of functional features. It's a hell of a lot more diverse than Java, that's for sure.

My opinion would be to not even try to pick something employable if you want to have fun programming.

lewd jam is nearly at 140 people

why aren't you in the lewd jam?

>>153962515
Wait, anon, maybe I've missed something, but what has happened to the desert game? Have you dropped it? Or are you working on multiple projects at the same time?

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>Black shell media likes one of my posts each and every day
>at this point they're liking things that are months old
Do they want something?

>>153962604
Yeah, well I already love R (why exactly I couldn't say, haha, it just feels good) so I don't mind picking up a less-fun-but-employable language, especially since R is not really suited for making games. Games aren't my ultimate goal but I love them and have always wanted to make one and they're a great mix of a number of disciplines.

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Do you know this game? Am I a whodev?

>>153962767
The horror thing is a tutorial project for me because I want to port the desertgame for both PC and mobile market (ipad/tablets)

>>153962515
Looks neat

>>153962882
who?

>>153962882
Prepare to get your game ignored on DD

>>153962891
Ah, I see. Happy devving then!

>>153962882
Sweet potato asteroids: the game?

>>153962728
I've told you three times already sotp asking

>>153962882
we'd know your game if you posted progress

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>>153963030
>>153963038
>>153963080
>>153963163
i was even in DD9, i just haven't posted progress on the thread more than once a week lately

>>153963226
...who?

can someone link me to a great tutorial on classes? I kind of understand the point but never succeed in taking good opportunities to make use of them. I always spaghetti code with a bunch of functions thrown in the lot.

>>153963226
I just realised who you are from tumblr.

Is the AC game dead?

>>153963302
Check out TheNewBoston's stuff

>>153963302
also, what's a game that has available source code that would let me see and learn how the greats do it? I looked a bit at factorio and it was cool but it's not all there so it's hard to make sense of it

>>153959602
That's not how it works, anon

>>153963403
pretty much. i still want to work on it but it's a looooot of repetitive work and also needs a ton of art assets, and i don't have the time to do the former or the skill to do the latter. maybe i'll eventually get a team and i can work on it. still want to do it

>>153962882

Hey, I remember you and want your game to succeed. For some reason though my antivirus kept deleting the executable 2 minutes in on DD9 release, so I didn't play much :/

>>153962341
There's only so much content you can have. You could make it so you have infinite upgrades, but this is just grinding, which isn't any better.

For a lot of games, I would consider money as merely a way to gate content, similar to locked doors. After the first half of the game, it's no longer relevant so you need mechanics that don't involve money to keep it interesting.

There's also games that just don't go on forever, like MOBAs or 4x games. The times when you have "too much" money in either of those games are pretty much non-existent, because by the time you reach that point the game has already ended.

>>153963545
fuck, dude, i need to look into that

maybe it'll stop misbehaving on dd10?

>>153963226
Lots of us don't have enough time to come here everyday so we miss things like that

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>>153963302
>good opportunities to make use of them
Here you go anon.

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>>153958658

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>find gear on google images (pic related)
>trace it in illustrator, change color

did i a copyright infringement?

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heaven or hell, agdg

>>153963673
m-maybe follow me on my tumblr i-if you want? http://nacidev.tumblr.com/

>>153963770
of course

>>153963774
Not a platformer

>>153963834
>i-naci-dev
/pol/ plz go

I don't have a tumblr because I'm not a non binary, genderqueer, demi-girl.

If I had one I would follow you though

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hey guys, its been a few weeks. unfortunately I haven't been able to work much during my break but I got a bunch of stuff done in terms of polishing the player model and movements up today. shooting for something like a videogame by demoday!

>>153963302
Well, a class is just how you make an object. If you ever need a self-contained thing with some data and behaviour, that's an object, and you want a class for it.

The spaghetti is another issue that will probably just be exacerbated if you try to abstract it.

>>153963410
TNB is probably the worst resource you could recommend on this subject. He doesn't give meaning to anything, he just basically shows the syntax.

>>153963770
https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/383132/gear_icon#size=128

>>153964148
fuck, this is meant for
>>153963834

>>153963774
pffsh

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Calling all space niggaz!
Together we can take over the indie development game!

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Ah, that was satisfying

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>>153964157
it still looks pretty cute, but i liked the previous static camera better to be honest, it contributed to that certain micro machines vibe there is and gave you a way better view of your surroundings.

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>>153963774
Nice. Make a nodev bingo card next.

You can make the centre free square say:
>Spends time making bingo cards in an attempt to shit on yesdevs instead of working on something.

>>153963774
fuck

>>153964491
where is your game so I can make a salty shitdev bingo card

>>153963770
given that the site has "free" in it, and given that you didn't use the actual image file, and given that it's a fucking gear, I'd say no
if it was something unique, I'd say maybe

Does this give a heroic feeling?

https://clyp.it/gmsyjrcc

>>153962341
>In a game that is supposed to have money as a focal point
As you suggested,
>I feel like this may just be a core problem with currency period
I think that's the issue.

For example, Twilight Princess had the Magic Armour, which provides invulnerability at the cost of Rupees. Even once a player has purchased everything, there is still incentive to collect money. But this is only possible because money isn't the focus.

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Ok so I know about using the color wheel to design color palettes for characters or environments. But how do you design for characters AND environments?
Do I use the same color palette? But wouldnt the character blend in and be hard to see?
But if I use a different palette then the character would look out of place?

>>153964185
>MIT License

Okay I'm good.
Thanks anon.

>>153964705
Made me think of this

https://youtu.be/PnvXb-8pkig?t=7s

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>>153964157
here's a better look at the static remodel I made to replace the placeholder

>>153964454
oh i should have said sorry, I zoomed in the camera specifically so you could see the player better for the video. It's still the same as before ingame

>>153964705
No, it feels like entering the Dark World.

>>153964705
I'd say so.
For comparison, one of the most "heroic" songs I've ever heard is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqxM3pyWqis

I'm trying to deal with transition animations in Game Maker right now. Is it better to, after the first loop, use the image_index and a timer variable to force only the non-transitional part of the animation to play, or to separate the transition and the looping part into separate animations and only play the looping part on repeat once the transition has played once (probably tie the transition animation to the state machine transition and have the target state only update the sprite_index after a certain number of steps)? Or is there another better way I'm completely overlooking?

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>>153962780
They want you to give them money in exchange for their "branding."

>>153965062
cute!

>>153964157
Hey man, did you ever check out the music I put together for you? I haven't heard from you since that day weeks ago

>>153964157
Still looks like it's pooping out projectiles.

>>153964802
What about a triad? Use two of the colours for the environment and the other two for things that need to stand out.

t. doesn't know anything about graphic design

>>153964802
>>153965886
Er, not the "other two", but another pair, so one colour will be shared.

>>153964157
Marty?

>>153962515
jesus, and I thought desert game was already leaning hard on consuming shadow.

>>153962341
Give the player option to smuggle in or use 'forbidden' items, that confer risk in exchange for superior stats/etc.

Then, have other high-cost items that can mitigate risk or eliminate it for X purchases. It'll sink money while still being >fun for the player and it'll add a little bit of depth to the game. Consider what happens when the player is caught or found out.

I miss nodev-kun

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Shorter, cuter trees?

>>153963616
Yeah infinite upgrades just makes it a cookie clicker with more steps essentially. Addictive yes but not my idea of fun. I think I just have to accept there is going to be a point where the game is "completed" even if there is no game over credits sequence.
>>153964783
Yeah I starting to think I'm going to have to put more work into the other parts and not just the money making part. Originally they were not going to be as important but I don't think my current idea will work very well beyond a few hours of play.

Is a "Hello World!" program progress?

>>153966968
me too
>>153966979
that screenshot makes me want puzzles in your game.

>>153966968
was that the low res dark souls "day XYZ of no progress" anon?

>>153967103
is it going to become a game?

>>153967103
yep, post pics

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>vector
>unique_ptr
>map
>set
>pair

>>153967103
I'll make a "hello world" game just for you, anon

>>153967169
Who are you quoting?

>>153967169
Maps are pretty useful though senpai

>>153967148
Can it? I don't know, I hope it can

>>153967114
Maybe! They're sort of out of my scope, but if I find some time I would love to implement some kind of puzzle. Maybe a door riddle to get to the dungeon.

>>153967215
me

t. the iso committee

>>153967219
If considering it progress will motivate you, then it is progress. Post it!

>>153966968
You mean C-kun or somebody else? Last I recall, he was more like Coq-kun.

Lets say i want to compose my own music to my game. What's the best tool to do that? I have no experience with making music on PC

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>>153966979
Is this going to be a game like Rune Factory? Looks like the standard garbage to clean up in a field and I remember there being a house near it.

>>153967523
>best

>>153966968
Who is nodev-kun?

>>153967219
nothing is impossible. make a game centered around getting all the parts to build a computer to build software to reach the ultimate goal of getting the computer to print out a "Hello world!"

>>153967523
Do you have any experience making music at all?

>>153967532
yes, it's like harvest moon/rune factory, but with a norse theme

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>think about game's story, characters and dialogues all day
>"ok, gotta get to work and write everything down..."
>open text editor
>stare at blank page for 30 seconds
>"nah, i'll keep it in my mind."
>close window

>repeat every day, feeling more miserably each time

>>153966979
lol who pissed in the snow

>>153967609
you can only blame yourself. just fucking do something every day and you'll make progress, whether you hate it or not

>>153967523
can you into trackers? can you into pirated software?

what do you think about a system in an RPG where the character doesn't learn new attacks by leveling up?

Instead they have a random chance to learn an attack each time an enemy hits them with one. They then copy the ability used on them.

I think I remember playing some SNES Square RPG that did this but I forget

>>153967609
All you have to do to get over blank page syndrome is accept the fact that your first draft will always be worse than the finished project you have in your mind. Just like programmer art looks awful but exists to facilitate actually making something, let your first draft be awful so long as it facilitates eventually getting towards your goal.

>>153967753
>the better you are, the fewer new mechanics you unlock
No fucking thanks.

>>153967753
this just makes people grind even more

>>153967753
Pretty much >>153967840

>>153967609
Personally every time I have an idea I enter it into a googledoc I have access to on my phone. No "sitting down" just to come up with ideas, I have plenty of them doing other shit. If I imagine it, in it goes. Even if the idea is shit I still put it in since I might refine it later or it might give me an idea for something else. Eventually you will need to figure out what your scope is and putting ideas and items into "Must do, should do, might do, will not do" well help you keep on track with progress and priorities.

>>153967840
well it would also happen each time you attack as well.

kinda like the spark system in SaGa.

but I dont wanna straight up copy that. I remember another RPG Square made that did something similar

>>153967753
Blue Mage RPG? I mean it could work but would need serious refining to not just end up a grindfest.

>>153967569
I have some experience, but mainly to """standard""" instruments, i.e. guitar or piano.

>>153967714
Well, if there is no decent free software...

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Started working on some soft-homing skeleton projectiles. I took a shortcut and parented their behavior to a level hazard that can damage both players and enemies, resulting in skeletals being able to hit each other.

Definitely a feature

>grinding is bad meme

>>153967318
Coq-kun?
what does that even mean

>>153967840
Live-A-Live did this during the Wrestling/MMA chapter and it worked fine.

It didn't feel like a grind at all. Then again, it was a really short chapter and only consisted of boss fights, Megaman style.

>>153968081
<3 ur progres

>>153968152
Coq is a programming language/proof assistant based on a type theory called the calculus of constructions. C-kun got into type theory shortly before he stopped posting, and Coq sounds like C.

>>153968068
I would recommend trying out OpenMPT and 0CC-FamiTracker (use FastTracker II Controls for OpenMPT so nearly all shortcuts are the same as 0CC-FamiTracker), because those are free software that are powerful enough to make soundtracks like these:

https://laurashigihara.bandcamp.com/album/plants-vs-zombies-soundtrack
https://virt.bandcamp.com/album/shovel-knight-original-soundtrack

Otherwise, pirate FL Studio because it's easy to learn and get into writing.

All 3 support MIDI input.

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>>153968224
also challenging Hulk Hogan to an MMA fight with RPG battle mechanics is pretty amazing

>>153968081
Just be sure that kiting a projectile to a boss won't break the fight somehow because it kills the boss when it should be invuln or something. Or just make that a feature if people can bother to do that.

Also the way those bones home in look weird especially since they penetrate scenery. I'm assuming you will change it but still saying something.

>>153968367
>>153968068
Oh right, from the sounds of it you can also play with actual instruments. If that's the case, you could also consider getting audacity and a good microphone, then recording your shit live... Honestly though, I'd rather you got yourself a MIDI input keyboard for like $80 and recorded your notes directly as MIDI data, then assign virtual instruments (VSTs) to them: It's way more powerful, gives you a lot more control, and easier to record on the spot when ideas come to you, too.

>>153968081

Make skeletons in fight with eachother. fighting against slightly disorganized and bickering enemies is fun, even moreso when you get them to kick the shit out of eachother for you

>>153968864
This

I love it when people put that in games

How do I actually learn what's in libraries without knowing what to look for? Some sort of a browser for the C++ standard library, for example.

>>153969019
you mean like this? http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/container/vector

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>>153968981

>>153965756
oh hey! super sorry, I've been really disorganized lately. I remember talking with you in the thread, but I don't think I saw your music? I'd love to listen to it now if you're up for it! do you have an email or steam or twitter or tumblr or something I can talk with you more directly through?

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>>153968497
Yeah everything skeletals do is pretty weird/buggy right now, and I'm not sure how much of it will be cleaned up by DDX, since time is running short.

>>153968864
I've considered it. The only problem is that there aren't a whole lot of places where you encounter more than 1 skeleton in one place, due to the verticality of the rooms. If I were to do that I'd want to specifically put together some wide open rooms for them to interact in. They're already set up to somewhat interact.

You can see in the webm here towards the end a skeleton picks up a dropped mage-hat and assumes the mage's behaviors.

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>tablet did something to mouse sensitivity
>keep missing buttons
I can't progress like this

>>153969519
that is a fucking cool mechanic

>>153969359
No worries man, I've been pretty slammed too.

The sample track I put together is here:
https://soundcloud.com/jasozz/tinytracks_samplemusic01

If you like it at all then we can chat further. I've got all of those options you listed except for Twitter, although Steam is probably easiest.

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>>153969519

>skeletons pick up gear from their fallen comrades and get those abilities.

You're just full of surprises.

>>153957864
Hello friends


So I'm taking the game I was making in a new direction.


The game is in the perspective of Prison Architect for example. The game is focused heavily on party on party combat. What is the best way to do this?

My first idea is to have directional combat similiar to top down instead of having the pseudo-isometric view like Prison Architect. This way I can keep my path finding, map gen, and assets even while in combat.

The second way is to use the currect assets like an overworld and once an engagement happens, or you enter an important area, you are "zoomed" down to a terraria like world where combat and most interactions take place. I'll need a new map generator, and a new control/pathfinding system in order to do this, not counting a lot new assets, however combat could be greatly improved in this way by allowing.

I have no experience in isometric gameplay so I'm not sure I could do that well.

Any other ideas?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=758787105

>>153967217
Pretty useful at being unoptimized

>>153969814
>the game I was making

were you actually making one or are you just telling you this to sleep better at night?

>>153969917
based anon's first steam game

haunting musical score

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>>153969519
>a skeleton picks up a dropped mage-hat and assumes the mage's behaviors
Damn, that's really cool

>>153970063

Actually making one, I'm a student/intern for a Hedge fund by day, so I don't have a lot of time in it, but I've made progress and usually get 10hrs a week in.

I understand that you're reply is a meme reply, but I'm actually looking for advice

>>153969917
What engine is this?

>>153961632
Do you have a tumblr or anything?

>>153960753
Looking good anon. As much as I hate "pixels for retro reasons", I've always felt that giving that sort of "visual obscurity" to horror thing adds an element of spookiness I can't explain. I would recommend checking out Wax Works for Amiga/MS-DOS, it seems to have similar visual themes (not in black and white) to what you're trying to do.

>>153970337
Unreal 5.0

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>>153969519
I love it.

>>153969917
How does the framerate tank when it looks like that?

>>153970364

Yeah, I do.

http://combine-kegan.tumblr.com/ I also occasionally reblog vidya shit that amuses me but that's mainly where I post progress. Also on the /vr/ doom threads.

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>>153969519
>a skeleton picks up a dropped mage-hat and assumes the mage's behaviors.
Holy shit that's cool.
Thanks for showing all of us up, asshole.

>>153969689
aw man that sounds great, I'd love to use it for the game on demoday. add me on steam at http://steamcommunity.com/id/boen/

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>>153970758
Not here, but Divinity - Dragon Commander.

>>153970660
It's a feature that automatically makes your game look like it's AAA game

It must be good if my water cooled titan x's in 2 way sli are crying

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Just added this fade in/out effect and connected the two "levels", and I think I fixed every serious bug so I think it'll be ready for DD.

>>153971087
Looks good mane

>>153970014
unordered_map

How hard is it to make a 2D FPS like Doom?

I don't know what engine to even use

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>>153969653
>>153969727
>>153970287
>>153970464
>>153970762
Aw shucks, thanks anons.

You know, I might not even need in-fighting. These boneheads tear each other up pretty well without the need for revenge

>>153969645
Don't click on buttons m8 learn the shortcuts

>>153969519
One of the boss rooms needs to be based around this mechanic. Skellies and hats/items keep pouring into a room and you have to balance killing skellies before they get an item and ones that already have one. Possibly an averted boss battle where you kill the "boss" easily but a skellies walks up and takes his staff and the real boss fight starts.

What do I search for to find the sound a candle makes when it goes out?

Extinguish seems too big

>>153971623
candles don't make sounds when they go out

>>153971623
Sizzle, puff, hiss?

>>153971493
Mechanically, it's not hard (at least these days). You could use pretty much any engine to run something like that. Design wise, very hard to get that same "feel" as the Id Software guys did.

>>153971623
Something like this?

http://freesound.org/people/Sparrer/sounds/50043/

>>153971623
Blow from the side into a mic with a pop-filter, and then add a little reverb.

>>153971704
and swords don't make a SHWING sound when you pull them out/push them into a scabbard but nearly every Hollywood movie and AAA game has them do it.

>>153971869
>and swords don't make a SHWING sound when you pull them out

hahahah speak for yourself buddy ;^)

http://freesound.org/people/chaosportal/sounds/133448/

I think this'll do, thanks

>>153971949
I get it's free and everything but that sounds awful.

>>153971552
Allowing their attacks to hurt each other really makes the game look more alive, I really like it

I'm going to buy your game and there isn't anything you can do about it

>>153972127
At 2x pitch it's perfect

>>153960598
My game is 45 MB, most of which is uncompressed audio.

>>153972270
I wish I had the motivation to make /agdg/ a nice little placeholder sfx pack.

>>153972373
But there are lots of placeholder sounds everywhere

>>153972486
Sorry, I should specify.
a GOOD placeholder sfx-pack.

>>153971623
If this works for you then you can use it, it's mine

https://clyp.it/xp014gph

>>153972373
You will never compete with the oldies imho, I love the stock screams especially

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-V_k_UfP7c

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If a glitch is discovered but intentionally left unfixed, is it still a glitch?

Is it bad to use public domain 3D assets if you plan on charging money?

>>153972689
no go ahead :^)

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Hey guys, working on my battle system, starting to get the basics working. Any comments on layout, or anything else so far? Menu 'graphics' are placeholders.

>>153972679
those are features

>>153972679
That depends, is it a feature now or a glitch you are ignoring. There are plenty of glitches there are unintended gameplay wise and unwanted by the devs and or players but are never fixed.
Missingno was still a glitch even if players liked it and devs acknowledge its existence.

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>>153972574
>good
>placeholders

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>>153972689
nah its fine

>>153972679
Yes, but every glitch doesn't necessarily have to be a "bad' glitch. As long as you know why the glitch is happening, and you believe the result is positive, then there's no harm.

>>153972837
does the exp really have to be displayed in the battle screen?

>>153972837
The UI looks alright, though it might not be a bad idea to put the options on the left side and all the stats on the right.
Needs a transition.

>>153972837
make lvl 1 show as lvl 01, the alignment will make it look nicer
same for every other stat

>>153972837
exp is kind of a waste of space
you might want a help bar at the top or something that explains what spells do and stuff
having different names for hp/mp for each class seems kind of annoying since it's the same exact resource and makes everything not align

otherwise, looks good
use webms from now on so we can pause and look at it

>>153972837
I don't like static information in TBRPGs.
I prefer stats on character highlight. And then in a way that doesn't take away from the scene.

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>>153972837
Your other dudes look good but this nigga needs some work

Just a small animation on his cloak would be good

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>>153973008
No, but the people I've asked said they think it should be there. Do you think it should be cut?
>>153973014
Thanks, switching it would prob be a good idea.
I'm going to do some shader work so there's a transition later
>>153973126
Thanks, I'll give that a try
>>153973146
Thanks for feedback, I'll use webms. Also, they aren't the same resource, each character has their own subsystem (not HP/MP) so the names actually matter.

>>153972837
Overworld sprites could use some more like like the battle sprites.
Why do you have 4 different, what I assume are, resource points? Why does once character have special snowflake CPU points instead of HP? EP, GPU and NP are not self explanatory.
EXP bars in combat are a waste of space. If you really want them have them overlapped with the name of the character.
Get rid of one of the small trees and move of the of bit trees near the path more. It looks almost symmetrical enough to be annoying.

>>153973346
>I'll use webms
If you need help I use OBS for recording and this for converting that file into a webm:

https://github.com/WebMBro/WebMConverter

>>153973346
The only reason to have an exp bar in combat is if you can level up in combat, and it should be more compact either way.
Think pokemon, the games show exp in combat because exp updates up to 6 times per "set" of battles.

>>153973346
can the player ever level up during a battle? does the exp bar go up during a battle, or only after the battle?

if the player never levels up during combat, cut it.

>>153971018
>skeleton boobs

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Hey guys.
I finished a short battle cut scene piece today.
https://soundcloud.com/user-795244489/march-to-battle
How well would it fit in a game for- say a cut scene?
Also, If any of you ever want music like this for your games, feel free to consult with me.

>>153973664
Hey I went for the short stack dwarf, using 4 gallons of lube so my dragon dilldo didn't chafe wasn't my thing. Just showing that a skeleton waifu existed.

>>153971623
snuff

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Lined up everything I've done so far to check consistency and it just hit me how far this project has come.

Slightly off topic but I need a team name for my group in software engineering class, and I can't think of anything.

>>153972593
I have definitely heard half of those used in Half Life.

>>153973315
Thanks, I'll forward that to my artist.
>>153973467
Thanks for the feedback, I'll definitely make the battle background more interesting later. And as I said in >>153973346 the characters have special snowflake subsytems because their mechanics are very different from each other.
>>153973556
Thanks anon! I appreciate it.
>>153973629
>>153973636
Thanks, these are good points. I'll give it some more thought, but maybe I will get rid of the exp and level bars.

Why do indie games always have such silly paper-thin comic relief villains?

can't you people make a character you actually care to hate?

>>153974554
>why do LCD shitters aim for LCD things
who knows anon.

>>153974407
Is this anon role playing being a New Game! character in agdg or something?

>>153974641
LCD?

>>153974491
Shaolin Blasters
The Mullet Mafia
American Mashers
New York Racers
Red Hurricanes
Awesome Lightning

>>153973780
Lovely stuff

Can you give a vague estimate of what you charge?
Musicbros seem to go by mad man pricing ranging from $0 to $millions per minute

>>153974750
lowest common denominator/bottom of the barrel, etc

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Catacombs shop is finally put together. Filled with friendly selletons offering discounted wares

>>153974407
You could at least change the filename.

>>153974547
All Dev and no Test make app a massive bug
Terrible bust best I could come up with.

>>153974554
Because I'm a paper thin person who can't stand to be "evil" in a shitty karma system Bethesda game. What makes you think I could write a character that is evil without being pure edge? Plus half the time evil characters can only get away with their bullshit because they can teleport away and never deal with the consequences or cutscene bullshit or unwinnable boss fights which just frustrates the hell out of me not makes me hate them.

>>153975054
Implement skeleton shopkeeper saying skeleton shopkeeper puns pls

>>153975093
They don't have to be evil. There's plenty of stories where the villains motives are purely shades of gray

>>153974891
Thank you very much. I'd say around 35-40 per minute was what I had in mind.

>>153975054
>Those signs
>that skelly face on the big sign
I love it.

The canopy looks a little off, like it doesn't actually connect to the wall behind it and the posts are in front of the floor.
Might want to change the sword with a red handle a little bit, I thought the box had a wine bottle on it with some weird junk to the right for awhile.

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>>153975207
skeletal dialogue confirmed

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>>153975054
Will they sell milk?

>>153974669
Some people will do anything for (you)s

>>153975093
>All Dev and no Test make app a massive bug
The Shining is my favorite movie, there's even going to be a horror/mansion section in the game since I'm a (survival) horror freak.
I'm def testin senpai

>>153975574
Woops, just noticed I misquoted when I said that. glad you saw it anyways.

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Water texture is a placeholder! I will animate it eventually.

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Weekly reminder that I have about 6 hours of diverse music across a dozen albums for anyone to use for free.

Feel free to browse through or give me some adjectives/themes here and I can point you in the right direction

https://arcturus.bandcamp.com/

Added 9 more new tracks today. Happy devving bros.

>>153975906
>Shortest path to field is blocked by water.
>implying I'm ever going to walk on that path
Unplayable now.

>>153976024
I-I can change it, anon

>>153976080
Ascetically it looks good but in reality everyone is going to take the shortest route they can to get everywhere if possible, even if it means walking past 10 enemies to save 5 seconds. Blocking that route is going to always be mildly annoying. shifting it up one or two squares would probably be enough.

Also seeing that gap in the fence on the other side makes me want to see a bridge from the square jutting in on the left side to that gap on the right even if it is useless. Perhaps a craftable thing, not there initially.

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>>153975906
maybe a slight issue with the new trees
they're giant skeletons??

Does anyone know whether it's legal to use real world track layouts in a game freely?

I'm not talking branding, or any associated structures. Not even the name of the track. Just the physical shape of the layout.

I don't want to just assume I can use them commercially, only to get banged for it later.

>>153976515
>makes me want to see a bridge from the square jutting in on the left side to that gap on the right
I think that's a really good idea - I thing players would really dig the game recognizing something small and insignificant like that and allowing them to change it

>>153976572
Take the layout and adjust it slightly throughout

>>153976572
Probably not.

Just like a building they paid people to design the track, I doubt they'd let people replicate it for free.

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~~~~|Weekly Recap|~~~~
Hello everyone,

Fill out the form below to join the weekly recap. Do not stray from the format below or else the scraper will probably miss your response. Try not to use things like additional line breaks or quotes.

A 1.5x1 .png file works best. A .webm will probably look awful since I just use the thumbnail for those.

~~~~|Recap Format|~~~~
==|AGDG Weekly Recap|==
Game Name:
Dev Name:
Tools Used:
Website(s):
Progress:
(+ For positive progress)
(- For negative progress)

>>153976572
Probably depends on the track, I'm sure some of them do have the layout copywritted or whatever. I wouldn't be suprised if the Indy 500 has a 25 degree curve for 780 yards leagally protected.

Probably a better question for a lawyer or to directly ask the track owners directly if you really want to do it, not doing it or modifying it enough is the safer option

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>>153976909
>==|AGDG Weekly Recap|==
>Game Name: Towards The Pantheon
>Dev Name: ConnorORT
>Tools Used: GameMaker, FL Studio, GraphicsGale
>Website(s): http://www.connorlinning.com/ttp
>Progress:
+ got basics of turn based battle system going
+ figured out resolution
+ new game logo and new npcs
+ added wandering chickens and cows
+ some new soundcloud music demos

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>>153976909
==|AGDG Weekly Recap|==
Game Name: Vagabondia
Dev Name: Anonymous
Tools Used: Monogame, Tiled, GIMP
Website(s): rainfrogs.tumblr.com
Progress:
+ A lot of art work done
+ Chests
+ Teleportation
+ Farming zone

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>>153976909
==|AGDG Weekly Recap|==
Game Name: Skylarks
Dev Name: Mako
Tools Used: Rust + SDL2
Website(s): -
Progress:
+ Scrolling message window
+ The game now tells you what star system you're in
+ Scripting language compiler now finds modules automatically
+ Variable name resolution is sort of working
- I abused a drug called exercise. My entire body hurts. Life is suffering

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>>153976909
==|AGDG Weekly Recap|==
Game Name: [Placeholder Title]
Dev Name: Ogier
Tools Used: GM:S, GraphicsGale
Website(s): http://ogierdev.tumblr.com
Progress:
+Fixed up the "hub" area for the demo
+You can now change keybinds in the pause menu
-Didn't do much this week due to playing video games
-Made a tumblr

>>153971087
I was worried you wouldn't make it to DDX since I didn't see you post for a while.
Can't wait to play.

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>>153976909
==|AGDG Weekly Recap|==
Game Name: RadMaze
Dev Name:
Tools Used: Ren'Py, GIMP
Website(s):
Progress:
+Coded more encounters
+Changed encounters from imagemaps to text
+Fixed minor issues with mazes
-Old encounters will need to be redone

>>153977793
Recap guy is a program - make a new post