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Fear will be my closest friend.

last map >>153817661

>Atlas of Worlds information
general: https://www.pathofexile.com/atlasofworlds
atlas mechanics: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714099
essence challenges: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1715825

>2.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1716228

>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt (embed)

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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First for if you have fun in hc, you're doing it wrong
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Second for this is a hardcore general, shitcrows get out
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fuck shitcrows
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Anyone done the Quay map? The boss keeps splitting into smaller versions of himself, and at the end he doesn't even drop anything. Shit map or some kind of mechanic?
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>its a act boss has huge aoe that kills all of my minions in 1 second episode
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>>153919823
>It's a summoner is playing the most babby spec but will still complain post
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>It's a "new unique bosses" league

Dropped. Have fun beta testing poorly designed rip machines.
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The sexual tension in the last podcast was pretty high, you could just TELL Paw's was melting in her cunt while speaking to our guy PT, the small laughs and smiles everywhere. I would be lying if I said I didn't touch my dick to be honest.
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>>153920174
Nobody cares, shitcrow.
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Zana's new VA makes my dick diamonds
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How big is the differene between having ToH and vinktar's compared to using regular flasks?

I'm a BV memefinder and i struggle in higher tier maps, is it because i'm MoM life or will i be strong once i get my flasks?
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>>153920224
I'm sure Paws touched her she-cock afterwards as well.
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>>153818167
>free
>>153826675
>free
>>153851703
>free
>>153851828
>free
>>153882192
>free
>>153887657
>free
>>153888031
>free
>>153888943
>FREE
>>153892572
>FREE
>>153894107
>free
>>153896704
>FREE
>>153902351
>free
>>153914282
>free
>>153914402
>free
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>>153920714
You need at least an Atziri flask, mang. Also, remember to switch in conc effect for bosses.
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>>153920853
I have atziri, basalt and stibnite, but i nearly ripped to a double boss in a t6 canyon.

Am i doing something wrong?
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>>153920937
yes, u playing poe
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>>153920714
Delete your char and play something cool
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>6 returns from a single map
loving the new atlas % bonus desu
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>>153921656
??
tho i agree the client is better than steam, steam updating is horrendously long asf, need to email support to switch
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>>153921824
Sometimes the webhelpers have a leak in which they keep loading stuff from the front page if you just logged in even if you are not on the front page. Then you can easily get that to 1GB+ RAM. At least I thought that that was the problem I'm not sure.

Anyhow just google steamwebhelper ram useage gave me this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/2g29dh/what_is_steamwebhelper_and_why_is_it_going_over/

Basically people discussing scripts on how to autokill it since it screwed with dota. I used steam 1-2 years ago and it remained unfixed for an extremely long time. That's why I just find it a terrible client especially since I was still playing on a comp with 4GB back then and it would kill performance.
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>>153921656
i usually laugh at plebbit downboats but you got shafted there for sure
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who /essence footprints/ here
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Anyone wanna roll this one with me
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>>153921656
>>153922154
Never had problems like that with steam.
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>>153922814
bet you're a shitcrow
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>>153922886
I'm on HC essence.
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well i still won't play with you
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>>153922886
you're right hardcucks only farm t1-5
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>>153922814
how the fuck are you already at t11s
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is this autism?

i'm thinking going for leech then es
CI will probably not work yet (if ever) and go crit instead
i'll pick up at least one power charge going over on the top side
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>>153923060
Glacial Hammer
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>>153919271
DIE FOR DETHKLOK
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>>153923153
By selling all my low tier maps for 3-5 chisels each. I make so many chisels i can basically 20 quality every single map i run.
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>>153923316
fuck u
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What uniques have you dropped so far /poeg/
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>>153923378
>paying chisels for maps

what kind of moron would do this
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Reminder to edit Neversink's filter to show all white leather belts, they're GREAT bases to craft with almost every essence
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>>153923378
i wanna fuck this dirty manga slut
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>>153923958
disgusting

you're disgusting
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>>153923472
3L volls devotion that's it. I'm still leveling in merc but still
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If I want to get 4 blue 1 green on this link, what would you reckon is the best method? Do I just spam chromes and hope, or do I go for Vorici's aid?
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>>153924559
>3L volls devotion

you can't 3l a fucking amulet noobshit
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>>153924630
1-off is 1-chrome
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>>153924630
If only googling vorici didnt bring up an easy to use calculator.
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>>153924630
yfw that one unlinked socket becomes green
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how are you other wagecucks handling your PoE withdrawal?

almost called in sick today
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>>153925326
lol i barely play this shit game
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>>153925326
why is it that everywhere i look people say this game ruined their lives? yt comments, steam reviews, 4ch...

I just dowloaded and school starts tomorrow, am i gonna fail?
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>>153925558
The new leagues are highly addicting. I usually play for a week straight before getting bored and suicidal. Once I rip I wait for next league and repeat
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>>153925769
hard cucks live truly shameful lives
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>>153925558
you sound like a normalfag
get the fuck out our general
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Torture chamber is tier 11 now? How rippy is that laser beam gonna be now.
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>>153926481
dodge behind pillar
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is innervate a good gem for clearspeed on crit LA build?

Seems like the movement speed from onslaught should help quite a bit.
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just tried the labyrinth for the first time. what level should I be when doing these things? both vargus and the lab boss fucking kicked my ass, and this shit just drags on forever and ever.
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Is the Raider ascendancy Quarts Infusion still good? Last time i heard you still don't get phasing while at max frenzy charges.
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>>153926291
fuck you
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>>153926481
Didn't they change the boss of that map?
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Just sold a jewel with 8% inc attack speed with two hand weapons and 6% inc attack speed, as well as 19 strength for 20c


did I get scammed? y/n?
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>>153927390
Area levels are like 35, 55, 65 and 75 or something close to them. Do them when you feel comfortable. I usually skip normal and cruel until I'm in merciless because lab breaks the pacing of leveling a bit.
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>>153927959
thanks senpai
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>>153927390
level is irrelevant

you need 1.5k life for normal lab
2.5k for cruel
4.5-5k for merc

to be comfortable
don't let izaro be buffed if you don't wanna die in 3rd stage
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>>153927846
no

jewels with no life have to have at least 3 good offensive stats, 19 strength is shit
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>>153924630
If you're set on not using the calculator. Remember that anything more than 50 stat req working against you that has an off color requirement benefits from vorichi 1 color. In your case you have 100 req working against you and 100 for. So 1 green.
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>no american flag

hmmm, this bothers me

i won't buy a supporter pack now
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>>153927783
>still good
Well it's a 10% constant ms boost vs a 90% upkeep ms boost that boosts your dps.
It's not worth it going there anon. Go for the frenzy and onslaught.
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>>153928914
There's no NZ flag either.
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>>153927118
Not unless you already 1 shot everything.
The gems I ran last league on my Voltaxic was LA-WED-GMP-PIERCE-FASTER ATTACKS-ADDEDLIGHTNING
And then added chaos for higher tier content.
Depends on your attack speed though. If its already high Crit multi instead of faster attacks is better.
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>>153927390
>argus
Most of the time you skip him. Until you're grinding uber lab, because you get an extra treasure key and it's worth it there.

Find it kinda lame how all the treasure in the normal-cruel-merciless labyrinths never warrants keys.
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>>153923301
>autism
Autism is not using the offline skill tree planner and not using the screen shot skilled points.
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>>153929487
autism =/= retardism
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>>153919271
I haven't seen new scion passive tree art. Is that because no one's playing her and so no one's seen it or because they didn't bother to make any?
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nice game
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>>153930554
When does it unlock?
I'm playing scion.
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>>153930554
Scion is the reject child of GGG, they didn't bother giving her
- a forum avatar
- passive tree art
- a decent ascendancy tree
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>>153930632
When you make a character and open the passive tree.
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>>153930625
retarded players get the best luck is ee
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>>153931057
It's not there.
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>>153931135
It's probably for the best that there's no more Scion art.
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theory: the hc/sc banner bug is intentional just to annoy HC players
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>>153931291
This looks like someone scetched out something quickly and someone said 'lets put it in the game'. They replied 'ah, yeah, sure, fuck it lol'.
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>>153931128
outskilled
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>>153931291
It was fixed a long time ago
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>>153931541
>poorfag neets complain about other people spending money to increase their enjoyment
I'm OK with citizen pay. I'm not OK with you complaining about it you leech.
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There's no real reliable way to cause bleeding with BV is there? Trying to find a way to take advantage of the 20% phys as extra chaos on Assassin's Toxic Delivery.
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>>153931541
this butthurt lmoa
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>>153931625
use knitted horrors spectres :^)
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>>153931625
Tora sword with cyclone?
You're only doing it for ST anyway.
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just pointing out that anyone who owns a currency/p2w stash tab is probably a loser
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>>153931840
Vagan?
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>>153931339
>banner bug
I find it a bit dishonest to consider trivial issues "bugs".
You wouldn't call them placing navali only in the towns during prophecy a bug.
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>>153931906

i own 20 premium tabs and a currency tab
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just poiting out that anyone who doesn't own a currency/p2w stash tab is probably a loser
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7PUcx_Qbjc
>dying with a support cuck
>dying with 9k+ ehp
""""""""""""""""""""hardcore"""""""""""""""""""" players
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>>153931937
No I just remembered it only spawns on bows. Shit out of luck.
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>>153931840
>>153931937
I guess something like a vagan mod's the best way. I can WB through bosses and don't really need it on trash, hopefully.
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>>153931541
>he doesn't have shadowplay
found the amdcuck
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>>153932368
AMD does have software that does the exact same thing. I just don't remember what it's called.
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https://clips.twitch
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lmfao
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>>153932686
>hardcuck tanks damage for no reason
You'd think they would be more careful.
They're actually being careful, they're just bad though.
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>>153932794
I don't know what your definition of "tanking" entails, but whirling around and dying in <0.5 second to a massive damage burst isn't really considered "tanking" in any accepted definition
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Why is SRS allowed to block spells/projectiles?

isnt that overpowered as a defence mechanism?
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well according to projectpt, the game is still too easy and offers no challenge
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>>153919271
>new league
>trade 1 is slow as fuck

kek the game is dying
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>>153933068
Some spells/projectiles can pierce or chain.
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>>153933190
>log on on a quiet monday when most people are at school or work
>global 3
seems pretty alive to me bro
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>no Alkz
>no Etup
>no Kripp

not a comfy league to be honest
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>>153932946
>>Whirling around
>whirls once to avoid the tail end of the massive damage he was tanking
>>boss keeps firing the channeling skill towards him
>decides to prance about for maybe half a second
>clearly boss is firing at him
>just stands there firestorming
>so out of control he whirls towards the boss just as he dies
There's so many ways to avoid that. Whirl away from the boss instead of trying to walk like a retard.
Don't take stupid fucking chances with high damage you just experienced.
Hide behind a tree while that skill is going on. (probably GGG's design intent honestly)

It's a well known fight.
You're greatly exaggurating by saying that's 0.5 seconds and even if it was that's plenty of time.

If there's excuses to be made for him then I'd say it's because he's tired. I don't know, but these racers do put in stupid amounts of hours. Why run hard content in that state when you put in those hours to grind you t9's? I don't know.
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>>153933354
>shitcore
irrelevant

hc defines if the game is dead or not

and it's dead
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>>153933470
Etup did say he will play later on. They just launched too close to Legion.
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>>153933068
Well GGG just fixed icewall. It's been broken since they created it.
Could just be a "bug".
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>>153933510
not as dead as your character LOL
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>>153933690
about as dead desu senpai
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>>153933496
what damage do those wolves do? he shouldn't die that quick with 10k ehp
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>>153933785
They do a lot of damage and he had plenty of time to realize it.
I don't know what kind of damage they do though.
>he shouldn't die that quick
He should definitively die that quickly when tanking an area denial skill.
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wilson if you don't stop this i will be involving the authorities
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our god and creator kripp is back
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eu servers shitting themselves
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it hasn't even been ten minutes since I got the last one!!!
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just corrupted a map into vaal temple

do I run it?
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>>153923301
If you're taking heart and soul for mana (as it seems you are).
Go with dreamer instead. 33% mana 15% regeneration for 2 points. Best points on the tree I think..
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>>153935205
Eh.
Game is liberal with uniques. More so than D3 honestly.
They're mainly crap though.
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>>153935259
if you have to ask, probably not
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>>153935564
looks good
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isnt t3 unique drop rate supposed to be increased because of the one challange?
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>tfw your self theorycrafted build turns out to be super strong
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>tfw your self theorycrafted build turns out to be super shit
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>>153931541

whats a p2w tab ?
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>tfw your self theorycrafted build turns out not to work because ggg changed the interaction without mentioning it in patch notes
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>>153936934
What build?
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Just started playing yesterday and played for at least 3 hours flawlessly with a friend but today i'm trying to play after this small patch and i'm getting these weird lag spikes but my internet is fine and i'm getting 150 fps. Anyone else experiencing this?
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>>153937336
call your ISP you entitled faggot, it's not GGG's fault you have a shitty connection
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>>153937336
also cap your fps with a 3rd party app if you don't wanna use vsync
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What skills do you use with Storm Cloud for leveling since it doesn't do physical?
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>>153937458
based bexposter
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>>153937458
Don't complain at people for complaining at GGG.
they're terrible at what they do.
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>>153937052
incinerate
the idea was to go ascendant assassin + elemental overload for free 40% more damage. the 1% crit would get turned into 5% (because you can't have crit chance between 0 and 5%) which would allow for 100% uptime through just casting incinerate
i tested it before the league started
but now when you start casting incinerate either all projectiles will crit or none of them will until you release the button, at which point it resets
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>tfw you went for a liftingnerdbro build and now you want to reroll again because it's not the most optimized
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>>153937545
what skill do you want to use?
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>>153937458

already ran a speedtest you turbonerd
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some parts of ranger tree really need a rework

the 2 wheels of dual wield / shield and bow damage / crit chance are a clusterfuck of wasted points, not that I put my skill points in there anyway
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>>153937606
Shit. That's annoying.
It's not even good for the game because you just recast until you're critting right?
Stupid.

So now incinerate-semi crit is a thing?
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>>153937610
What build?
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>>153937645
I want to level. It's a level 9 bow. I'll eventually respecc. I just don't see what skills is it used with, since all the bow skills are 40-50% phys conversion.
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>>153937606
This should have been obvious when they said that channeled skills are only cast once per channel now.
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>tfw want to get into the game but all the character building stuff seems super intimidating
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>>153919271
so am i just plain unlucky or did GGG completely axe rare monsters spawning randomly
I haven't beat brutus yet but i've only found 3 rare monsters so far and those were because of essence spawns?
I know i've found alot more rares by this point in other leagues
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they changed the fucking Springs boss
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>tfw posted stupid cat pictures here for years and asked questions based of what i learned from the thread but never installed the game
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>>153938225
literally me week ago

not that complicated tbqh, especially if you are being babby like me and following someone else's build
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so the skill castle ruin kraityn is using is the yet to be released channel melee skill right?
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>>153938516
>especially if you are being babby like me and following someone else's build
That's what I was planning, but I doubt I'm ever gonna get into trading in this game, and every build I see goes for the very, very best gear (obviously).
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>>153938513
wise choice
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>>153938669
there's no reason not to trade
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>>153938669
that's exactly what I was thinking lol

buying items from poe.trade is pretty straightforward and easy

im also using cheap build
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New to this game. Do bandit buffs also affect my totems or just my character? I am making a siege ballista build and I want to know if the 16% physical damage bonus will make them stronger or just my bow.
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>>153938802
Seemed like a hassle that I didn't wanna deal with. Usually there's a lot of people wanting to fuck you over that I'd rather not deal with worrying about.

>>153938842
Hmmm. Guess I'll give it a go then since my fellow newcomer says it's easy. Thanks m8
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>>153937610

What happened in that webm?
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>>153939069
You can just set the price and ignore anyone who lowballs you.
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>>153938981
Your totems use your offensive stats, so in that case, it would buff both you and your totems by proxy
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>>153939175
Oh ok good to know. Thanks
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Why is ranger such a raging lesbo?
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>>153939327
you
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>>153939327
She's gay.
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because patriarchy
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>>153933110
he is right
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>>153939510
https://clips.twitch
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>>153939646
This nigga has forfeited any right to criticize the difficulty of the game.
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>>153939646
>that damage control laugh in the end
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>>153939646
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>>153937827
na you don't look at conversion
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My first good/usable unique and I fucked up hard.

Why did I have to be greedy?
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>>153940680
Because you're an idiot.
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>>153940680
It's not even good
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why play this shit league
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What's up with the carto sextants? I only got one during a couple of days of mapping.
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>>153940832
It reduced my cyclone damage from 600dps to 300dps with that downgrade.

First real play through as HC, so I was happy for a bit.
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>>153920583
Anyone got a video of her new voice lines? Still haven't found a zana.
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>found two exalted orbs within an hour

uhhhhhh

poetards?
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>>153920583
>>153941189
her new voice sucks

>stay SANE exile

what did she mean by this?

really makes my maps drop no returns
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>>153941216
give me one
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>>153915427
Late reply. Storm Call more or less clears at move speed. Problem is it's not extremely fast at movement. If you go for a spell dagger then you can at least whirling blades everywhere.
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>>153941443
sent ;)
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>>153941307
Her new voice is fantastic. Don't tell me you actually liked that nasally fake russian bullshit the other acress tried to do?
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So what I have found about shapers orbs so far.


>they do not always drop
>most are useless for upgrading certain tiers of maps (i.e Tier 9 orb)
>they cannot put put in your stash
>they are quest items, and cannot be removed from your characters inventory until you use them
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>lvl 75
>4k life
>2k es
>MoM ~700 mana unreserved
>banshee queen I or something prophecy
>merc fellshrine ruins


>~40 of them blew me up instantly with ice spear thingies

o-okay
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>>153941167
That's a lot of dps loss yeah.
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if you do not roll your own builds every single time OR you ever remake the same build during a league after ripping you are basically an honorary shitcrow
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>>153941738

>yfw you can put them in a master craftbench
>mfw I learned you can do this with regular item too
>mfw each character has their own craftbench instance even though you're hideout is shared

I...what
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>>153923301
Low life doesn't work with CI. You shouldn't be speccing those life nodes in the NW with CI, either.

Using the life>ES jewel where you're thinking of is a good choice; it's some of the most effecient ES in the game IIRC
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0-2 Keep grinding in PoE maps
3-4 Play League instead
5-6 Fap to demon girls
7-8 Fap to Otokonoko
9 Ride my bike outside
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>>153942610
the ride
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>>153941760
THE GAME IS TOO EASY
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>>153942610
FUCK
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>>153942610
i want to get off
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>>153942610
>>Play League
Go away.
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>>153942610

kek get fucked
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>>153939081
Those bone colosii do a good bit of damage, and she tanked like 4-5 hits at once with no end charges.
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i deleted the image myself because it was 2lood
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Plz halp i'm kinda new, this will be my second char on PoE
Can ice spear totem carry me to end game or will I succumb?
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>>153942610
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>>153943126
Don't play Ice Spear if you don't know what you're doing.
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>>153941738
>they are quest items, and cannot be removed from your characters inventory until you use them
FUCK what do I do then
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>>153942610
>Play League
You're probably a shitcrow too
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do you think she likes it poetards
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doing the labyrinth for the first time. wtf were they thinking?
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>>153944583
>we don't want more of the same game that people enjoy make it a pve trapfest
- Chris "early July" Wilson
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so i cant progress past t8 maps.
not because no maps are dropping but boss kills dont register and fill in the map.
when will this be fixed.
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>>153944583

Its fun. Stop hating.
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>>153944793
have you tried using the sextants
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>>153944876
cant use sextants on maps that arent filled in.
if i use a sextant on a neighboring map and it has a radios the charge does get used up once i enter and the effect seems to be in place.
however completeing the map either rare, rare corrupted or magic does not give me the bonus or fill it in.
this happens with all my t8 maps.
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It's been a few days now.

What are the top tier builds? Did the nerfs create more diversity?
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>>153944848
But it's the opposite of fun?
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they fix SRS ai yet?
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>>153945112
pathfinder blade vortex is sitll the easy mode build
bladefall poison mines are still broken as fuck. isntead of putting them right on the boss you put them next to it and it still decimates.
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>>153945112

They nerfed Voidheart so any build that used it is now shit.
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>>153944583

>the first labirynth in the prison does fuckhuge damage
>every labirynth after that barely scratches you

quality game design
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how can i enjoy the new league when my crippling depressing keeps getting in the way
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>>153946078
Because you'd have to be a complete moron to die solely to the spikes. You have atleast a 5 second window to get the fuck out of heal up.

Darts and the roaming discs are far deadlier and inconspicuous traps.
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>>153945060
Doesn't it have to be unid'd?
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>>153946340

Get a gun and play hardcore. If you die in game you kill yourself in real life.

Or talk to friends and play with them. Thats what I do when I am depressed and it helps.
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>>153944583
If you're bad enough that you can't avoid traps then you'd probably just waste the ascendancy points on garbage anyways. You'll be fine without them.
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>>153946776
>friends
lol
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>>153944583
you can run/travel through most of the traps.
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>>153946874
lol. i'm 9 levels above that shit. nothing in there can kill me. it's just an unnecessary, badly designed nuisance.
but i guess there's an apologist for everything.
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>flame totem sire of shards
>this is great, it'll have huge aoe and damage!
>mfw I try it
it's damn good but holy shit the eye cancer is real
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>>153947337
Either you're retarded about traps and crying about how standing on a circular saw killed you or lab is trivial for you JUST LIKE THE ENTIRE MAIN QUEST.

You're bad and trying to coverup or you are ignoring the other 5-12 hour grind over the only mildly entrtaining part that is lab
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>>153945804
Voidheart is fine, you don't need to constantly bleed.
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>>153944583
I always thought lab was pretty great in terms of content in this game. Decent rewards for the trouble and most importantly readily available, which is a nice change of pace from the soul crushing resource management hell of mapping that will probably make me uninstall the game during this league.
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>>153946884
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>>153947607
Yeah, who wouldn't like a laggy platformer crammed into their arpg
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>>153948032
>moving out of an AoE damage zone = platformer
Lab haters are literally retarded.
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>>153947635
You don't need to constantly do damage either, but it sure fucking helps.
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>>153947742
It's actually the only well-designed part of the main game. The tension for the rest of the game is microscopic with very little variance to the threat of the enemies. Lab is a well-deserved callback to the elements of roguelikes that made them popular and worth imitating
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>>153947607
>>153948129
>complaining about bad/boring game design is retarded
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>>153947337
It's supposed to slow you down and keep you on your toes. Can you imagine how boring lab would be without the traps?

Most of the puzzles can be skipped with lightning warp anyways. Hell some secret areas with loot chests are only accessible with lightning warp. The only truly frustrating puzzles are the end game ones in maps.
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>>153948352
>if i say the design is bad then it's bad!
Every lab hate post ever

Learn what gameplay beats are. Before lab there is nothing of value in the actual gameplay of PoE and the only other good part of the game consists of running magic/rare maps.
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>>153948306
>It's actually
Nope.
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>>153946392
Darts do zero damage, the spinning discs and shit are scary because if they suddenly switch direction to where you are dodging things get hairy very quickly.
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>>153948306
Exactly, I love the balancing between going fast/getting max keys vs risk of bricking the run, though many builds kinda trivialize the entire place but that's a problem with general balance in the game.

In most other areas there's little difficulty/tension until you run into nasty shit that's only difficult because you need quick reaction times, i.e. Path of Logout Macro.
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>>153948291
You still poison on hit and have 30-something to 50% chance to bleed, it's no big deal.
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i can't believe you have to go full trading autist in order to complete the atlas and sustain your map pool
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how do i SRS? do i go EB? what auras? zombie nodes? how do i get enough life?
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>>153949529
>full trading autist

Is it really autistic to just sit on your hideout waiting to get PMs from buyers?
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>>153949685
This post sums up the mapping system pretty well.
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>>153949685
yes
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Why is it so hard to get up to yellow maps this league?
I'm level 82 and I've gotten a total of 3 yellow maps. This shit didn't happen in the past leagues.
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blade vortex shadow ascendancy points
go towards culling strike or get 10% power charge on non crit first?
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>it's going to be a whole new end game!
>we made it worse!
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>>153950239
>Shadow Ascendancy
You mean Assassin, but generally, you go Unstable, Deadly, Ambush, Assassinate.
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>>153950745

>implying

Its better than Prophecy. I hope the next expansion in 3 or 4 months focuses entirely on the Labyrinth. Its fun.
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>>153950797
that's what i mean and thanks
i picked unstable because i was worried i would dc or crash or something while waiting, seems like it has the most value throughout
wasn't considering deadly not sure if i can get 4 labs
would you still go that way and miss out on culling strike?
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So, Hideout MTX when?
>Lunaris reskin for Zana
>Belly of the beast reskin for Catarina
>Mud Flats Haku
Etc.
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>>153950896
prophecy was the most vanilla season since anarchy
>I hope the next expansion in 3 or 4 months focuses entirely on the Labyrinth
i hope so to, then i can finally quit this shit
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>>153951056
>i hope so to, then i can finally quit this shit

You say that every league and you are still here. You are never going to quit.
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>>153951215
No, I imagine I'm just like most players. Play for a few weeks at most if the new league is good, otherwise drop it and wait for the next one
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>>153950992
Your crits are already insane, 10% of even Core Malachai with +% Monster life isn't a major problem.
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Making a new account. What if a good unfunded Marauder melee build? If possible one that can take me all of the way to end of Merciless. Looking for a good red gem to use and not so much for a whole passive tree or anything. I literally never ran with a melee build before and don't know what my options are.
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>>153952535
earthquake is your only option 2bh
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>>153952535
Earthquake and Ancestral Warchief are the only good Melee skills.
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after much deliberation i've decided i'll go BM SRS and run haste in an essence worm

poeurl.com/Lhq

probably get a kaom's heart at some point too
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>>153946340
Depression fueled autism.
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>>153952814
don't bother

you'll just die to cruel dom again
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>>153952692
>>153952758
Didn't Earthquake get nerfed though? Is it really still the best thing to use?
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>>153952857
are you who i think you are
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>>153952814
won't srs still give you retarded lag spikes?
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>>153952949
the aftershock now does 10% decreased dmg now and it's still strong
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>>153953006
they seem to have fixed it
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>>153952949
warchief totems are way better unless you dont consider them melee
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>>153952814
>After much deliberation, I'll just run a cheaper version of what those streamer guys run, it seems to work for them so it should work for me
Why don't you come up with your own build you obnoxious little copycat?
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>2% physical damage reduction
not a fan of this meme
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>>153952949
Here's a simple comparison.
Assuming your weapon is the same with both skills, at level 21 gem, EQ has 110% of your weapon's damage, HS has 196%.
That's almost a 90% difference in favor of Heavy strike, but then the aftershock of EQ, which if you're running the usual Less Duration version, will happen within mere moments, does 1.5% as much damage. For a combined total of 275% of your weapon's damage in a massive Area of Effect. To Heavy Strike's 1 target 196%.
Earthquake outshines any other Melee attack skill in the game except Ancestral Warchief, which is overall slightly worse, but can still be as good.
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>>153952949

what makes eq great isn't the damage (though it helps)

it's that it's the least mechanically shit melee skill in the game

>hit ground
>immediately free to move afterwards
>AoE kills anything the first hit didn't kill
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>>153952814
Thats an extremely common and simple build
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>>153953721
literally haven't seen a BM SRS build ever
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>>153953605
Earthquake does not outshine a crit reave character. They can get to bonkers levels of damage while earthquake not really since you can't really scale the attack speed.
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>>153946706
no thats for the challange.
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>>153953805
there's probably a good reason for that.
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>>153953805
Are you fucking RETARDED?


BM srs with essence worm is a cookie cutter build

better yet, dont waste your nodes pathing to BM, and just craft BM on a +2 staff, you fucking shitter
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>>153952814
>BM
why
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>>153953697
also you can use acient warchief to deal with tanky bosses.
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>>153953605
>EQ better than cuclone
LMAO
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So?
Coming back after one year, is there finally any actual Dual Wield skill that is not dogshit?

Hum?
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i miss real money auction house poster
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>>153954306

>Cyclone

yeah nah that shit is old and busted
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>>153954392
Nope.
Lacerate is alright, but not "end-game viable."
I don't think I've ever seen a Lacerater do anything post-T10.
Scaeva is pretty alright for it and the dual wield Rigwald weapons being accessible via cards gives options.
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>>153952814
>54 base dex
>that retarded pathing
>actually exiting Witch through the spd and cast speed nodes
>actually grabbing BM keystone when you can craft BM on a staff
>BM srs with one shitty non-generosity aura
It's a catshitter tree alright.
>>
So I've been trying out PoE a bit and like it so far but the one problem I have is that the game feels very sluggish.
My fps is constant 60fps with some drops to 58fps and ping is constant 50ms. And still I experience random hick ups where my character kind of lags and moves like he's under water. Is it just the game engine or my PC? Are there any fixes for that?
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>Still unsure what would be good for a Hierophant "FIVE 6-LINKS" Build
Fuck.
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>>153954863
It's mostly on GGG's end, server instability in the first week or 2 is common as fuck. It's actually way better than usual this season.
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is there an sc guild?
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>>153954869
nothing, you fell for a meme class which offers nothing but mana regeneration, congrats
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>>153955018
Congrats, you're a sheep.
Here's your banana sticker.
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Why would you not want to fully level up your skill gems?
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>>153955208
waiting on your gamebreaking 5x 6L memephant with 1ex a pop crafted bases, kid
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memephant is literally immortal
>40% damage taken to mana with mom
>a lot of extra ES
>TWO TOTEMS LMAO
>mana and mana regen to sustain mom
it is a defensive ascendancy, you build damage on the tree for it
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>>153948306
Honestly traps doing % damage are the only dumb part of it. The entire point of a grinding game IS to become stronger than the content, not to mention they're an easy way to rip when you don't have your ISP on speed dial.
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>>153955416
>He thinks I play builds to win
Congrats, you're a sheep. You already got your banana sticker.
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>mapping is actually fun now
>map progression actually enforced
>monster life buff in mid maps weeds out shit builds
>mid tier map bosses are actually a challenge now
>high tier map bosses are actually an end game challenge now
Fact: if you dislike AoW, you are a retarded professional dried lake runner into easy blue map runner that always skipped challenge and are now lost that you have to _earn_ your map progression
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>>153955305
stat requirements, Cast when Damage Taken, mana cost
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life leech nodes worth taking on an EQ build?

i honestly don't quite get how leech works even when browsing the wiki
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>>153956015
>_earn_ your map progression
>Is still 100% random drops, but now with restrictions on the pool your (0) drops can roll
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>>153956123
get ~2% attack leech through gear+jewels+tree
duelist leech cluster is the easiest way to achieve this when you lack gear
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getting a +1 instead of a +0 due to the atlas bonus is literally tripling your map returns in most cases
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>>153956268

I usually run blasphemy warlords for leech but how important is max leech % and % leech per second?

sorry if these are retard questions
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>>153956448
Correct, but that requires you to have gotten all those map drops and completed all their bonus objectives to build up enough of a % bonus base to get over than hump, which if the map drop rate is utterly abysmal, which it is, makes it pretty much pointless.
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>>153956749
there's no easier way to explain this than the wiki desu
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Leech#Mechanics
the tl;dr version is that

increasing max leech % makes you potentially tankier (you can outleech more maximum damage) while

increasing % leech/second makes your leech instances more effective, leading to you needing fewer leech instances to reach your cap (this greatly helps vs single target, e.g. bosses with no adds)

if you're cookie cutter melee, i wouldn't worry too much about it
if you want to dedicate a melee build to leeching, slayer is tailored for that
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>>153957108
No, it means progressing at first is slower, with fewer lucky bumps and no +2s. Hence earning your progression, not running Dried Lake to 85 then buying maps on poe.trade like you used to in 2.3. EARNING your progression.
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Hey /poe/

I have a fully respec'd level 58 duelist without an ascendacy class. I also just found a 5-link/6-slot two handed level 58 sword that I used an alchemy orb on.
So I want to use both of them. Is 2H spin to win still good? I think I have a grasp of the empire lying around on some char.
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>>153957667
Except you can still do that.
They even said it themselves, "You do not have to ever open the Atlas of Worlds screen."
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^ this is bait ^
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>>153957696
>Is 2H spin to win still good?
it can be if you know what you're doing
go slayer for the extra aoe and improved leech
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>>153957865
Alright, thanks.

And turns out, I do have those gloves. So I guess I'll make this one a dedicated ghost busting char (is that still a thing? I haven't played in months).
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>>153958027
>So I guess I'll make this one a dedicated ghost busting char (is that still a thing? I haven't played in months).
this was mostly fixed with 2.4. not sure why you would want to do that in the first place
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>>153958126
Because I remember that that was a thing last time I played and back then I thought about making one to get rich.

Reverse knockback plus cyclone seems fun nonetheless.
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>>153947483
I've used SoS with Flame Totem, it's great.
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Hm, my ranger got reset. I guess this would be a good time to try some new build, but most of the current ranger builds do not seem to use the bow?
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what's the best class for IIR/IIQ build?

>>153958852
try this https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1041989

covers many skills, all bow-based
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Vortex Trickster

Will it blend?
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>>153958512
It is but it's too bright
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>>153959071
CoC Vortex with Cospri's Malice, do it
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>>153954593
I'm actually leveling a bleed Dw Lacerate gladiator and it's going well so far. The damage against bosses is supreme so far.
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How does guardian summoner compare to necro for spectres? Worth?
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>>153959315
Don't want to CoC.

I was honestly just planning on buffing the DoT portion up, then whirling blades to cross maps dropping it.

Other option is to use a +3 staff and flame dash. I was looking into using Star of Wraeclast to get Illusory Warp, but the 8s cooldown means it's absolutely worthless.
>>
How do you keep track of what uber trials you've done now?
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So is ice spear any good?
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>>153959794
not really
playing it is really eye opening to how the monster AI is and how they've set up their difficulty
monsters jump on and in melee range before you can even react. Ice spear's buff of damage doesn't justify the poor mechanics (even with GMP you don't hit everything)
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>>153959069
SRS
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>>153959069
if you're culling you should go witch for cast speed/mana regen nodes not sure about solo though
>>
>>
Is CoC Volley Fire Barrage dead? This was the most fun build ever.
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>>153960101
To make IS work you really have to do a fire conversion and prolif. Only problem is you now have to invest 4 points of elementalist into a single node since they made conflux useless.
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>suffer through the initial grind
>finally get to maps and start having fun
>get 1 shot
here we go again...
>>
>Go away for nearly two years
>Come back
>Catposter is still shitposting
>Catposter is still retarded
>His two neurons are still trying to start a hardcore / softcore war nobody gives two shit about
>Nobody is calling him out for the dumb catposter he is anymore
>>
Planning a Tornado Shot on Silvertongue build, do I want +16 physical damage or +8% attack speed from bandits?
>>
first of all i only post cats occasionally
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>>153959069
>what's the best class for IIR/IIQ build?
Scion
can run gear independent build like SRS/CA with ease
more jewel sockets for more IIR
tons of res so you can run shitty IIR gear and not care
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>>153960923
>playing cuckcore
Why do you let Chris rail your waifu, anon?
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>>153960980
he's just a clown trying to stay relevant at this point
older posters don't care anymore
newer posters don't know who he is
>>
>>153960758
it's just an old skill from a different time, there's a handful of these relics from old PoE
>>153961016
i dunno do you like slightly faster attack or slightly more damage?
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Noob here. Going with a lightning arrow ranger build. That a good choice?
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>resolute technique
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>>153961439
Veteran here. Good build. Next vague question?
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>>153961307
I do have fun filling the map with arrows, but I guess if those arrows don't do anything, then there's no point.
I just need someone to tell me what to do.
>>
Fuck this RNG fucking BULLSHIT

I just want a 5L already
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>>153961307
I feel like IS could be good if they made the first stage have knockback but do half damage or something.
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>>153961913
spend 2 minutes and 5c to buy one off poe.trade?
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>>153961913
Do you have 5 chaos? Just buy one.
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>>153961736
the difference is minimal at best
>>153961913
buy one
>>153961990
It's like that without the knockback already. Only like 1/4 damage as the second phase
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>/poeg/ said you're build was shit
>it's not
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>>153961016
Neither, get the passive point.
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>>153962115
I'm aware, I mean half of what it does now to somewhat compensate for the added knockback.
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>>153962319

A lot of people here are bitter autist. Don't listen to them Anon just have fun.
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>>153962462
I'm having more fun than the majority of the people who post here anon, don't worry about me.
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>>153961485
>relying on the cheapest mechanic for dps
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>>153962319
what's your build you fucking weeb shit
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>>153962773

Cyclone crit
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FREE PHASE?
or is it visual bug with cwdt phase run?
>>
I fought for God. Who do you fight for /poeg/?
>>
I fight for your mom
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>>153963202
For the Alliance
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>>153961485

what's wrong with RT
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>>153962773
dw facebreaker totems unascended ranger
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>>153962773
crit BL inquisitor
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Does essence created items not count for chaos recipe?
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>Want the PVP NPC hideout
>Dont want to do PVP

What do?
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>>153964369
retard
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>>153955708
But if they changed that it would be impossible to balance so the lab wouldn't become completely trivial with a couple extra levels and still be possible if you went into it when you first get access to it.
Barely tapping a circular saw would mean a rip at level 33 while you could use one as a pillow at level 40
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Path Of You Can (Not) Advance Past Tier 7
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>>153964549
cheese reputation with a friend.
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>>153964549
Ponder on your existence for eternity.
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>>153964581
Why does asking this make me a retard?
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>>153965489
The nature of path of exile develops a sociopathic community.
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How is this not THE buy stash tabs league?
>essence
>prophecy
>MORE div cards
>MORE maps
>MORE currency items

This isn't pay to win, it's pay to play.
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you ever pay $1000 to meme, /poeg/?
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found /r9k/
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new league seems cool though it seems kind of op to craft good rares on everything you need whenever you want.

also this just dropped in HC, is it worth anything
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>>153956015
>zana's new voice
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>discharge with 3-4 of each charge less damage than a single Firestorm

I just wanna have fun but this is seriously bumming me out.
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>>153963679
nothing
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>>153966539
>he's not playing an inquisitor
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>>153953605
But heavy strike has that stun threshold
>some bosses have unwavering
Nevermind.
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Should I not be doing any prophecies until I get to the hardest difficulties?
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>>153966510
Nah not really. That's a close to max roll for that item. I'd say 1 chaos.
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how do get activate streamer_rng()?

just stream on twitch to no one or do i need to buy poebux first?
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>>153965796
>sell maps
>sell cards
>sell currency
>>153966896
Yes. Sadly they didn't make coins difficulty specific or scale like essences so you save all of them to the endgame. Same with currency and anything else worth saving except for low tier essences.
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>>153967006
just play 18 hours per day, that should do it
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>>153967021
Thought as much. Thanks for confirming, anon.
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>>153967021
>sell stuff
>get more stuff by playing the game
>you still need stash tabs to hold/sell your stuff
not an argument
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>>153967187
>not just undercutting everyone and flipping shit with the money you make
It's like you haven't played the game at all.

Nobody plays the game to make money. That's so inefficient.
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Was Rigwald's Curse always this cheap to make?
24c if you buy the cards.
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>>153967209
I'd have to stop playing PoE.
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>>153967187
Also yes it's obviously a fucking argument. You just think you poked holes in it.
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>>153947742
Only part I don't like is how the izaro mods are either stupidly easy or even beneficial like portals, or completely fuck you over like charges or conduits (phys added as elements).

Just means you skip that day and do your lab runs when the RNG spits out a piss easy izaro and short layout with no fucking golden doors.
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>>153967283
>>153967402
you still need stash tabs, retard
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>>153967462
No. Your 4 tabs on 3 (or any number you like) accounts work just fine. Fucking retard. If you're holding a large number of items you're doing it wrong.
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What's better, +1 skill wand with 3L or an armor 4L with more supports?
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>>153967656
Depends on gem level. Generally +1
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>>153967571
>If you're holding a large number of items you're doing it wrong.
>maps and currency are a bare minimum if you want to actually play the game past merc
>you're left with 2 tabs to hold everything in a cluttered mess
>essence league adds 20*4 + 5 essences
>AoW adds 30 more maps, with drop rates so shitty that people have to pick up every single low tier map they find to do the 3x vendor recipe
>divination card strong boxes now exist
>if you want to do the chaos/regal, bauble, GCP, etc. recipes you're fucked
>if you are playing HC and want to hold onto leveling gear you're fucked
>oh but it's ok bc you can just have mule accounts
You are literally playing the game wrong if you think this. I don't care how much ZiggyD told you GGG is being honest about their MTX philosophy. This entire game is about loot and grinding for fucking gear.
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>>153967656
each +1 is about 25% MORE damage on ele shit (but about 21% on phys skills, dunno why)
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>>153968218
Ziggy would NEVER lie to us just because GGG are sucking his dick
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>>153968683
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>>153969073
bet my moms life all are shit
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My build killing Corrupted Hydra. Tell me what you think.

No regen, enfeeble

and because everyone would say >headhunter I took it off for this vid

Hydra frags are selling for 3ex+ on standard and I'm farming them
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>>153965809
I feel sorry for the idiots who bought that shit without realizing how horrible divination cards were going to be
it's honestly shameful how GGG hasn't gone back and tweaked these cards
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>>153969379
Fuck I didn't even post the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5NUGLBktGw&feature=youtu.be
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Post em
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>vaal pyramid map boss
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>>153965809

>mfw more chaos orbs drop randomly before I can actually complete a set of 8

I guess the end-product is useful?

>yfw The King's Blade
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/PoEG/ redpill me on how to explore my atlas the right way.
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>>153968218
You CAN play the game without holding shit

It's just really shit. This is fucking fine, GGG needs to make a profit somehow, and stash tabs/hats/supporter packs (that include hats) is a relatively harmless way to do it.
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>>153967209
>lower texture quality to runescape mode
>still enable shadows
based retard
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>>153969549

>he cant afford $7 for a currency tab
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>>153970804
>You CAN play the game without holding shit
>It's just really shit.
Player retention is important to a company making profits too, anon.
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>>153970679
Tier by tier.
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>>153970679
unlock hydra and only hydra from top left
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>>153971027
what happens if you skip tiers and say start at tier 5 through buying a map?
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>>153970889
$10 tbf (to be fair)

they don't sell $7 points packages unless you email customer service
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>>153971146
You won't be able to find maps you haven't unlocked except those directly connected to your current and your % map bonus will be shit which means you'll be doubly penalized. There's no shortcutting this, unlock all tier 1s, then all tier 2s, then all tier 3s, and so on
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I want to try a crit build but I have never done it before.

Should I get as many crit nodes as I can in the tree? Also damage or multiplier nodes?

I don,t want to spread myself thin and it seems easy AF with a crit build.
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>>153970804
>non players hear that PoE is a F2P game and are already skeptical due to 99% of F2P games just being a mandatory cash shop with a side mini game
>they ask around and people like you assure them that it's not p2w, and that they should try it because they have nothing to lose
>they install the game, and load into the twilight strand
>maybe they make it to brutus or so before they finally cave and click on the shop button glaring at their face on the UI
>the first thing they see is stash tab bundles
>you get more in one bundle than you start out with
>they realize now that the whole "not P2W" thing was a lie
>if they didn't angrily uninstall by now, they probably are asking around about how important stash tabs are
>someone like you explains that they can just make mule accounts
>they hear about how poe.trade works and how it interacts with PREMIUM stash tabs only, forcing them to use 3rd party software that asks for their credentials when they try to use it
>new player thinks this is all retarded (because it is), and doesn't continue playing PoE
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>it's a Zana doesn't reset her sale inventory after completing a daily mission episode

Am I missing something? And why is her inventory full of tier 5 maps? Wut
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>>153972407
didn't read your novel desu
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>>153971817
all maps until when, just unlock the whole atlas?
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>>153972482
she can only sell shit you've unlocked i think and she was nerfed too
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>>153972407
I'm outright saying that the game is shit without buying tabs. No deception there.

And you're shit if you can't afford them.
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>>153972491
>>>/ziggyd's youtube/
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>>153968218
>we're talking about a specific situation
>extrapolates to a different case
Not. An. Argument.
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>buying tabs
>giving ggg a cent
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>>153972796
>mfw I "bought" a supporter pack with a gift card
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>>153971539
>he can't afford to send an email
>>153972407
You guys are really overestimating how annoying it is to have multiple accounts. What you do is idea a character in your HO. Trade with it when you wanna stash stuff. Your main character has your stuff you need to have available. You set up different trade threads (I think the trading BS is more p2have fun than the stash tab limitations) for each character. Trade with your buyers regardless of where your are currently on your main character.

It's really not that difficult. Setting up trade threads is a far bigger hassle.
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>>153973280
>idea
Fucking phone. Idle.
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>>153972904
We are talking about needing more stash tabs than you are provided, and the problem being blowing the fuck up with all the additional content in essence that eats up your stash space.
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>>153973590
>We are talking about needing more stash tabs than you are provided
Not me. Read this bullshit reply thread you started because you're poor as fuck and wasting your time on videogames.
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>>153972407
>>they hear about how poe.trade works and how it interacts with PREMIUM stash tabs only, forcing them to use 3rd party software that asks for their credentials when they try to use it

the software is open source, so not only you can scrub it for fuckery, but just lift the way they use the forum/website api and implement it in your own solution
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>>153973934
Imagine you are bored and looking for something new to play. PoE sounds cool but all this 3rd party shit takes too much effort. Next.
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>>153973934
Yeah but here's the catch:
People who can't pay for the stash tabs are literal retards who couldn't figure out the most trivial forum scraper if their life depended on it.
So they're fucked.

But I'm completely fine with GGG screwing over retards. I'm just saying it is how it is.
But it's in GGG's best interest to keep the retards happy obviously, since they clearly make up a majority of the game.
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>>153973851
>Read this bullshit reply thread you started
Yup, read it. And you're basically saying:

1. Don't hold on to anything if you want to be good at the game, and disregard the fact that essence league, div cards, maps, and etc. will keep growing exponentially and will eat up all of your stash anyway

2. GGG said they're not P2W because you can have mules and multibox, and you should do this too you ungrateful little shit.

3. Wow why are you talking about GGG's player retention rate staying low because stash tab bundles are becoming a requirement to play the game you dumbass that has nothing to do with this

Bravo.
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>>153974141
If someone is not going to pay for stash tabs then its unlikely they'd pay for anything else. No point in catering to them when they aren't paying customers.
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>>153974876
>Yup, read it. And you're basically saying:
Stopped there. It's a waste of time to read your interpretation of what I'm saying because it's perfectly clear.
I argue you can do trading just fine with mules. You claimed you couldn't because you needed to store stuff.
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Stash tabs are P2W.
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playing 16 hours a day is p2w
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>>153974897
Well i'm talking more generally there. This game is for retards who think they're facing difficulty while all they're really doing is grinding numbers. it's insanely similar to D3 now.
At least if you're playing and pushing content.
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what if the p in p2w stands for play
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>>153975252
A little bit, sure. Mostly benign, though.

Think of tabless PoE as a demo.
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>buying p2w tabs
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>>153975131
>Stopped there
Are you just trying to make me dump my logical fallacy ref folder? You can just ask.
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>'people' who think mules are okay
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>>153975701
Not participating is not an argument and not a fallacy. Shut up you ignorant git you're trying to derive a sense of superiority getting into pointless arguments and dragging them out for no reason. You've moved away from the original point simply so you can do this. Return to your miserable life and deal with that instead.
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>>153975901
Don't emotional just because you realized slobbing knob for an indie games company nets you zero benefits and actually makes the game worse in the long run.
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Fuck off back to /sp/ you retarded faggotron
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>>153976221
Please do dump your pointless picture folder if you feel like it. I'm not gonna stop you.
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>>153976456
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=logical+fallacy+ref
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>>153974876
>>153975701
>>153972976
>>153972407
>>153970889
cancer
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>Normal player (me) on the right.
>Pay to win player on the left.

Why the fuck is this allowed?
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>CWDT immortal call
>not just stocking up on endurance charges and going to town
9 charges so far and counting.
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Why is engineer so shit?
There's no clearspeed on this damned character and it barely tanks better than my 50% dodge outlander.

Also what the fuck is up with acid rain? I don't get why I'm sometimes getting leech/mana on hit from it. Am I supposed to or am I not? I'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to. Why make a single skill out-perform all of them?
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>>153976721
2 gem links > 7 passives + 2 vaaled implicits
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>>153976707
I'm kinda pissed they don't let you transmog (deal with it) any normal gear for free. Because there's such a large variety in quality.
Your character doesn't look like shit for instance. But most do.
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>>153976680

>poorfag

lmao
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>>153976732
>the closest thing PoE has to an engi is fucking siege ballista
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>>153976910
more encouragement to buy skin transfers my dude
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>>153976958
If you were read any of those other posts except for the last one, I think their model is good. I think giving people shit because they haven't purchased any tabs is fucking stupid, it's their own choice.

>>153976910
Ehhh, idk. I preferred no skin transfers because then you see people's builds better. But then again, the mtx overlaps... I just wish they came up with an option to view character's gear who are around you.
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Why are you faggots still shitposting like we're in the last week of a league? can you stop being casual shitters and stfu and play the damn game?
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>>153977249
>I just wish they came up with an option to view character's gear who are around you.
That discourages MTX purchases. It's not like PoE gear tells you anything about the character other than what type of weapon they're using. And if they're dual wield or with a shield.
Easy restrictions to put on.
>>153977164
If that's the reason I don't think they realize how much a game looking like shit for the player hurts them in the long run.

To be completely honest I think Chris is running a major scam. He's pretending he's running a videogame development company while he's really running a small team of people managing a big game to cash out as much as possible.

Compare PoE's developments to other games, they're not on a reasonable scale. The features they've developed takes very small amounts of time for a reasonable studio to push out yet it takes them years usually. The frostwall exploit (as they put it) took two years and was known for practically the same amount of time. You really can't trust that they're trying their best here.

So that's why. Implementing free transmogs when they're doing skin transfers already (likely a pittance compared to the other MTX earnings and greatly diminishes the visual quality of the game) would be an effort because of no engine support. Making frostwall act as a friendly entity is also effort.

Yeah they're definitively just cashing out.
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>liking PoE enough to go though making mules, multibox/run multiple instances, set up a shop thread/use acquisition, grind league achievements for MTX(not so much anymore), spend more than 50% of your time shuffling items between accounts, etc.
>legitimately having fun regardless
>not supporting the devs for proving a fun experience that you have spent hours playing

What's your excuse?
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>>153977839
>It's not like PoE gear tells you anything about the character other than what type of weapon they're using. And if they're dual wield or with a shield.
You can also see this with MTX anyway since you can't skin transfer a bow over a dagger, etc.

>To be completely honest I think Chris is running a major scam. He's pretending he's running a videogame development company while he's really running a small team of people managing a big game to cash out as much as possible.
That's literally all video games. The only difference is GGG being completely incompetent about balance compared to other similar games.
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>>153977839
>The features they've developed takes very small amounts of time for a reasonable studio to push out yet it takes them years usually.
What?
Are you playing and following the same game?
They often pump out QOL changes as soon as they can.
Otherwise you have no idea about the way the game's coded, so can't possibly speculate how long things can take to fix, and how split people are working on different features/expansions.
They do better than huge companies in that respect.
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wheres the list of gems each class can purchase/obtain at certain levels?
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>>153978595
Read the OP, the wiki is right there.
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>>153978698
im too dumb, found a quest gem list
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Leveling as BV. How do you kill Act 4 bosses if you can't face tank?
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>>153978296
>They often pump out QOL changes as soon as they can.
So you're employed there? Because the average player sees issues and have to wait for months upon months for fixes. Is dominating blow playable yet?
>Otherwise you have no idea about the way the game's coded
Yes you can still speculate. I speculate that they're either doing this intentionally or they're absolutely shit at developing games compared to most other studios except for the issues described below.
Also we do get a lot of insight from the development manifestos and interviews. They do have major problems making changes supposedly. But it's fairly illogical. For instance they have a hit cap on cyclone and have had that for a long time. But it took them forever to implement that on ball lightning apparently. Icewall took 2 years to simply change so it acts as an ally (something we also have a lot of in this game). I don't know why they'd tell us this. It doesn't make any sense in either case, if they're cashing in hard they shouldn't explain their issues in that way, they should make more reasonable excuses like working on future content. People would have bought that Act4, ascendancies etc would take a lot of effort.
If they're actually struggling with changing their game in such trivial ways, well that'd be quite the unbelievable mess they've made.
>They do better than huge companies in that respect.
That's a different thing entirely. Huge game companies tend to be very strict about their development pipeline. You plan something out and then you execute it. To have a change happen is either within the small space each worker is given or it has to be an executive decision. That's why there's design leads for instance. It's uncommon to have acting design leads in smaller companies because they don't have these issues.
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>>153978858
try decoy totem
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>>153978858
self cast bladefall
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There would absolutely be nothing wrong with GGG adding a quest to unlock one premium stash tab per account in the same way Scion is unlocked.
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>>153979140
You're bringing balance changes into this, when all of that goes through a different 'pipeline' with them than QoL changes and bug fixes.
You specifically said features before, which is why I was disagreeing with you. I still can't believe desync was ever fixed, and these optimizations have been great on my fps.

What I'm saying is that I find it pretty incredible they manage to bring out great QoL changes and get on top of bug fixes pretty quickly, on top of having the 3 month leagues to do as well as the expansions.

If you can't see that then you obviously have some sort of vendetta against them I think took changes they made a bit too personally.
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>>153979459
too meta, muh lore
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Why are mortal hopes 30c again? Did they buff the drop chance or something?
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>>153979459
Except that it would kill their income...
Do you want to kill this game Anon? Because that's how you get more intrusive pay to win stuff being added.
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>>153979736
"wow, you saved/helped me, here have a bigger bag" -literally every RPG ever
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What is the best 4l for blade vortex while leveling?
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>>153979885
a magical bag that you can inscribe and recolor at will? I call bullshit
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I wish there was an ingame store to buy orbs, rather than me having to go on ownedcore
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>>153979860
>Except that it would kill their income
Support your claim.

As far as I see it, 5 total tabs is still pretty small. Also, if you use the 1 premium tab to set buyouts, then you can't just dump your shit in there without people PMing you lowball offers all the time. If GGG does this, then the impact should be much smaller than most people are making it out to be.

>>153980064
You can raise the dead, shoot ice dildos from your hands, spin rapidly in a circle for hours without puking, use portals and waypoints to blink in and out of reality as a form of travel, make a deal with a fearsome beast and become a corrupted tentacle monster with super powers, access alternate realities by putting flat rocks with markings on them into an oversized gyroscope, and even be a cute barefoot girl if you want. How is a color changing bag with a nametag out of place here?
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>>153977839
Damn shame they don't have a Tinfoil Hat MTX for you, though
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>>153979974
fc/echo
controlled destruction
added fire
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>>153979840
Cards are easier to get for it and there aren't that many uber atziri farmers now that you can farm uber lab or guardians too. It'll go up again when people start wanting acuity though. I think disfavour is probably gonna be less popular.
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>>153980386
>EXALTED ORB - 8$ (5+)

Do people pay EIGHT (8) Dolaroos for one (1) fucking EXALTED?
What the fuck
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>>153979704
>balance changes
Nope, all the issues i've mentioned were officially referred to as issues concerning the engine capabilities or 'exploits'.
Should be perfectly representable as examples of inability to modify their game.
>I still can't believe desync was ever fixed
Oh no it's still not fixed. Remember their severe misleading campaign of the community? They made that long manifesto where they explained how Desync couldn't be fixed and they then waited two years to implement a system that's more reasonable for most players? It still has desync happening all the time, just more minor.
Because desync is impossible to think. In fact, desync happens in your PC all the time, your monitor is never a perfect representation of your game as it is in ram. (I'm taking the shit here).
Really, I fucking hate GGG for that bullshit. And ziggyd proved (as expected) to be the biggest sellout imaginable. He portrayed it as being a challenge GGG can't fix because it's 'just the nature of the internet'.
>and these optimizations have been great on my fps.
mmh yeah. Shame they didn't do that earlier though?
I know what they've done because they've described it. SIMD for a particle effect system is a piece of cake. It's brainless transformation anywhere you do it. It really doesn't take more than a day at most. And their multi-processor implementation is no doubt naive as shit as it still has major issues.
>vendetta
I'm sick of their shit yes.
>>153980496
>tinfoil hat
Nah it's just the nature of things, people corrupt.
>>153980430
>additional tab
As I see it giving people the feel for what an additional tab does for them will make them reevaluate the value of said tab and see that 3 dollars is probably actually worth it. It's an investment. People who are hell bent on never spending a dime wouldn't be discouraged. There's nobody who really borders on 5 who just needs 5 as they're pushing all the div cards and shit.
>>153980723
Time is money. Not unreasonable for me tbqh.
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>>153980723
>paying $8 for a dead currency when you could just buy a p2w tab and increase their drop rate legally
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>>153980783
>Because desync is impossible to think.
Dunno how that happened. Meant fix. I'm too tired.
>waited two years.
Actually I don't know when they made that post. but it feels like it was a stupid long time.
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>autistic quote war time
im out
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what can i do to scale lighting arrow damage with voltaxic.
added lightning and wed on jewelry and obviously levels but is there anything else i can do?
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>there is STILL no way to trade stuff for cash shop currency in this game

I'm sure the game would be dead and the devs much poorer if it did lol

Retards.
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>>153981132
What tier of content are you facing that you really need that?
Go crit.
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>>153981173
Literally p2w
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>>153980783
>>and these optimizations have been great on my fps.
>mmh yeah. Shame they didn't do that earlier though?
They said they hired someone who has worked specifically on the particle system and memory optimisations. Did you miss reading this? Stop fucking cherry picking.

The fact is you don't have any idea at all how any of their skills are coded and you're angry at them over YOUR speculations for how easy it is, and how well things are prioritising with the immense amount of work they do.

This is why I think you're a fucking cuck. Bitching to us isn't going to solve any of your problems.

>>153980430
Oh, I misunderstood. If it's just 1 per account then maybe it's feasible. I thought you meant multiple x)
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>>153980915
I was already out once he used the term "reply thread"
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>>153981398
>x)
why
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>>153981173
This is the P R I M E example of a f2p grinding game managed well.

Imagine if that shit had only four fucking weapon and warframe slots and the only way to buy them would be lashing out 10$ but you need more of that cash shop currency so in fact you need 15$ so there goes 10 dollars more.

Learn something, Wilson.
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>>153981460
Because I baited for this exact reply
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>>153981204
im already crit obviously.
45% chance without inc crit chance since im only on a 4l for now.
im just wondering since i know what my last two links are gonna be but i hadnt had luck with fusing and im trying to find alternative ways to scrounge out more dps.
fully buffed with 7 endurance charges 3 power charges and my flasks up i do 46k la dps and 23k blast rain dps.
however it does seem awefully low even if im only on a 4l for both. plus i sitll have a hard time on tier 9+ dealing damage except for map clearing obviously.
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>>153981508
>>>/wfg/
this is your home, stay there
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>>153981539
congratulations you did it

what will you do now
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>>153981552
7 frenzy*
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>Exalts drop 200fg in 24 hours
Glad I stayed up late to sell one.
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PoE was a mistake
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>>153981652
Probably go on reddit since I really enjoy it
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>>153981748
ok
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imagine being so butthurt you're bad at a game you have to shitpost its general for years

just imagine being catshitter for a second
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>>153981651
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>>153981956
Bex has no choice but to shitpost here because she's bored at work and doesn't actually play PoE. Like I can't even blame her.
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>>153981552
also heres my current tree
poeurl.com/LiY

top right jewel sockets have static electricity in them
bottom has 16 lighting damage and 3 attack speed with bows inside

go ahead tell my how shit i am
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>>153976732

acid rain can leech if its procced by something that can leech (like some outlander or bserker skills)
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what would the best build be for single target boss removal?
I was thinking dual wield dagger dual strike or something
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Blade Vortex was a mistake
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>>153982450
Vaal RF desu
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>>153982626
CoD beats it doesn't it?
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>>153981398
>They said they hired someone who has worked specifically on the particle system and memory optimisations. Did you miss reading this? Stop fucking cherry picking.
Anon here's the story from my pov (a person who knows a little about software):
>GGG promises performance optimizations
They've been slacking on that for a long time now and they've been running their game single threaded and we're well past the early 2000's where clock speed . So while moores law still holds they're essentially running their games on high end 2002 CPU's.
>GGG now promises to make the game multi threaded
Oh man, finally the community will get their performance. One of the major complaints you hear if you read the general forums etc.
>the release the -multithreaded flag in 2.3.3
>large parts of the community experience little change
This is probably because their implementation is shit. But nevermind that.
Something which wasn't in 2.3.3 was the AVX/SSE2 instruction set usage. For the layman this is basically instead of telling the CPU "Add X to Y". You say "Add X1-4 to Y1-4". It's basically a direct 4 times increase in speed where applicable. It's IDEAL for particle effects. Unbelievably so. It's practically made for this.
Here's their presentation (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1715146):
>Vincent, has been attempting to optimise the particle system by using the special purpose vector instructions that are available on modern CPUs.
What they forget to mention is that SIMD has been around forever. It's not a 'modern CPU' thing. Intel AVX is. There's many different instruction sets they can choose. I think they made the wrong choices but ignore that.
this actually makes a 4x improvement in the particle rendering for most players.

So they release that, people are happy about it.
But the way anyone who actually hears "we implemented SIMD for our particle system 5 years after release" and understands it. It's a huge facepalm bascially.
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>tfw 13 skill points unused
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>>153982809
I have no idea what you meant by CoD
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does IRON GRIP work with spells like fireball?
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>>153983263
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>153983263
Fireball is projectile SPELL, not projectile ATTACK.

If you want to use the STR bonus use Iron Will skill gem.
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what happened to the wiki?

The 3 pure stat unique armour lists are missing
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>>153983094
cast on death

>>153983263
no, iron will does, iron grip is projectile attacks, not spells
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>>153981398
>>153983008
Also I don't know who they hired. But if they had to hire for this it's even worse.

Anyway, a few things I missed because character count:
While AVX (which they no doubt are using poorly if they're only getting a 4x) came out in 2011. SIMD and SSE2 (picture this as the most 'standard' thing) was released in 2001.

GGG are shit devs. There's simply no question about that, it's inarguable because of their proven terrible performance. I question why, because they have a fairly large game (ignore how gamers think only hearthstone, dota and league of legends is making a profit right now), they can make it absolutely solid with the money they would be making. But they have poor player retention (also admitted), the playerbase varies a lot month to month based on leagues etc.

They have all the right opportunities but they keep failing. It makes no sense to me. So that's it, that's why I'm complaining. I've complained to them, you get shitty responses.
I get responses from people asking me to work there. I'd never work there because they're shit.
So maybe that's why? Poor company culture?

Not enough is happening though.
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>>153983428
The wiki writers use a large amount of automatic tools. This is likely why this happened. Report it to one of them and they will fix it.

If you wanna fix it yourself just revert to an earlier version in the history.
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>>153983008
That's good and all, and it's cool you clarified it - although it seems they did specifically need Vincent before this change ended up happening.

It still doesn't change that they usually only have 1 or 2 people working on things like this on the side, while the rest are working on content for upcoming leagues/expansions. Bug fixes look to be prioritised more than they used to be, and QoL changes are happening more frequently.
I mean, I'm glad they're more transparent than other companies, and the feedback on the bugs and shit is helpful to them - so direct it at their forums. I don't see a need to dislike them so much outside of balance fuck ups they do.

>>153983442
You're right in some cases, but it's not for lack of them trying. They made the game difficult because that's what they wanted, and as much as they're not trying to cater to casuals, they are still trying to make the game more accessible.

So do you want them to fail, or are you here saying what you are hoping they're going to pull their socks up?
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>>153983847
excuse my post formatting, I typed this with my balls
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>>153983442
>I get responses from people asking me to work there. I'd never work there because they're shit.
I love working here.
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>>153984386
Do you do art or community management?
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>>153984457
Neither of those.
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>>153984631
Fake. No way you can enjoy working there then :P
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>>153984694
They take care of their staff, and in return we try give our best
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>farming maps trying to get all lowtier maps unlocked
>get the urge to fap
>open portal
>stand up irl abd walk into our bathroom
>pick up a used undie from my sister
>put it on my head with the cuntspot on my nose
>begin to fap while sniffing and watching at the witch skilltree picture
>finish while moaning my sisters name
>PFR hits me like a truck
>"What is wrong with me."

I'm a gamer.
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>logoutcore
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can vinktars drop in collonade?

also my autism is compelling me to complete every single map
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Why is GGG so jewish with cosmetics

>>>20 dollarydoos for a piece of armor
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>>153985910
People pay them 1000$ to make a card for an item which they (should) lower the drop rate for accordingly.
Players are spoiling them.
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>>153985910
I think it's way overpriced as well but surely they've worked it out and they know they can't price them lower.

The market for those cosmetics is probably a lot like the anime market in Japan in which the only people that buy them will pay a shit ton for them so there's no reason to price low for mass market appeal.
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>>153983847
>So do you want them to fail, or are you here saying what you are hoping they're going to pull their socks up?
The former would be a good lesson.
The latter would be my preference.

I'm just venting though. It bothers me too much to enjoy the game almost.
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>>153985908
it can only drop in the base map it's connected to
in this case, courtyard

why is this even a topic of confusion
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>>153982038
Makes sense. That's probably it.

R8 my character it's softcore and I've been running level 96's+ since level ~60 with ease since it's way overcapped on DPS.
2 hits bosses
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>Dota 2
>STR
>AGI
>INT

>PoE
>STR
>DEX
>INT

>>>no Power Treads Unique item
>>>no Divine Rapier Unique item
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>>153986498
They need to add the rest of Zeus' abilities, we already got Arc. Vaal version can just be global Lightning Bolt.
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>>153986360

if you are steamrolling everything, try the synergies mod

it basically gives you an endgame and loads of new weapons/sets
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how much time does it take you guys to complete normal/cruel malch and merc dom in a new league? it's not quite speedrunning since it's reasonable to detour for trials, lab, and certain sidequests that give passive points which can all add some time.

Right now I'm about 12 hours in and I'm a little ways into cruel act 3.
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>still no Invoker build
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>>153987019
About 15 hours to maps
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why are we being raided by moba babbies
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>>153987202
Steam.
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>>153987202
>stop liking what I don't like!
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>>153987330
>>>/d2g/
>>>/lolg/
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>>153987019
If it takes you longer than 8 hours to reach merc dried lake, you're slow
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>>153987330
and by redittors too, apparently
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>>153985239
I love that PFR is a term that I instinctively understood and I want to believe that story is true

post sister witch feet
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>>153987405
In a new league with nothing? 8 hours is incredibly fast.
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>>153987616
if you're not fast, you're slow
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>>153987659
Believe it or not there is a middle point called average.
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>>153987739
if you just worry about being faster than the slowest player, you are still slow
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>>153987739
is there any comfort in that? "i'm not slow! i'm average..." no you're just slow. maybe not "i'm new to the game and it takes me 3 hours to complete an act" slow but still slow and need to practice to get fast
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>>153987880
By that logic 8 hours is slow too because it's not record speed.
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Why the hell doesn't Soulmourne spawn in the Fellshrine chapel instead of randomly on the road?
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>>153919823
>I can't even manage my own minions.
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>>153986498
STR DEX and INT are main stats in half of rpgs out there. So what?
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how are you suppsoed to do that challange with the warbands leaders.
does zana have warbands?
is there a map where they spawn?
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>>153991503
there are warbands prophecies, I think those count.
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>everytime i try a new build
>it fails horribly
>and i end up going molten strike for the 400th time
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>tfw 19 unused skill points
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>>153991503
Warband prophecies. Also they are in some maps.
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>>153981508
No fuck off, it's terrible.
PoE is almost completely non-P2W, whereas unifying like WF makes it very P2W.
If I could take out my wallet and get the best shit in the game without 3rd party RMT services, it's P2W.
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Why the fuck do all of the mechanically fun uniques in this game have to be so awful? There's not even a decent skill you can use with a claw besides Reave and if you're able to make an effective Reave build you're going too fast for the wolves to even matter.
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>>153992474
>Why the fuck do all of the mechanically fun uniques in this game have to be so awful?
devs don't even play their own game, and unique funders are simple minded faggots
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>>153992474
dominating blow is pretty much the only good skill for it.
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>>153992574
Did they at least fix the dom blow bug where you eventually just die due to corrupting blood I think it was?
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>Make fun build
>Gets nerfed
>Quit game
>Look back
>No regrets

lmao how can you shits still play this treadmill
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>>153992792
Bro, we don't care if you suck at the game. You don't need to tell us.
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>>153962773

Flicker Oro's Trickster
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>>153992474
>too fast for the wolves to even matter.
every build goes too fast for minions to matter unless they're minion builds
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>>153993114
Played that during prophecy and it was legitimately the most fun I've ever had in PoE. Unfortunately with the death of Elementalist and the loss of Emberwake my build no longer works and I don't want to suffer through an impotent version.
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>>153992792
he posted it again!

the absolute madman!!
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>>153993307
no that was this one
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>>153993303
Fucking Perandus rather. Obviously couldn't do it in Prophecy.
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so.... is ice spear any good
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why is malachai the boss of primordial pool (T5 map)?

Who is the new core boss?
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>Didn't realize Dog and Chicken in Canyon
>Rolled double boss
RIPIP
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>>153993947
i want to f**k that anime
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>>153991716

how do you manage to never learn what you are doing wrong?

>>153992179

their argument is that you can get inventory space in warframe nominally for free (nominally because someone HAS to buy plat in order to trade it to you since starter plat isnt tradeable iirc)

this is possible there because only a handful frames and weapons are consistently good so you can build up from there because warframe is a lot simpler overall than poe
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>>153994226
Considering that anime doesn't even know what sex means, that's pretty messed up anon.
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>>153992474
wild strike or warchef totems, nignog
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>>153993913
"no"
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>>153994482
>their argument is
Yes but their argument is completely irrelevant. The game is completely P2W because right now I could take out a credit card and have top-tier equipment 30 minutes later. Yes, you still have to level/forma/etc but there's no possible way anyone can consider that "not P2W" under any reasonable definition of P2W.

Yes, that means PoE is very slightly P2W since stash muling is possible but inconvenient to the point where it will slow down your farming.
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>>153992474
>+140% poison damage on this claw alone

hurr why is this claw bad? ?!?!??!?!
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>>153994482
>how do you manage to never learn what you are doing wrong?

everyone always replies to me like im retarded in these threads
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>>153994517
i'd teach her what it means ;;))
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okay boys

what loot should i be holding onto, i feel like ive got lots of baggage.
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let me relieve you of your heavy load by ________BUY MORE TABS
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>>153991503
unique strongboxes too
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Just died on my earthquake/ancestral totem berserker.

What should i do next guys? Double/flicker strike? I feel so lost! Help me pick something cool to play.
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>>153993947
why didn't you just use your logout macro?
>>153994948
BV
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>>153994569
Epic answer
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>>153994623

but limited stash space is EXTREMELY inconvenient in poe and you cant earn more in-game

limited anything in WF is circumvented by grinding and trading

the best weapons in WF arent even available in the cash shop last i played and buying frames is literally dumb
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>>153995171

You can make lvl 1 characters and use their inventory for storage.
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>>153994576
could you explain why its bad sir.

is it the damage or the ultility?
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>>153995345
like i said, extremely inconvenient

specially in temp leagues in which the main gimmick eats tabs
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>>153995171
>but limited stash space is EXTREMELY inconvenient in poe and you cant earn more in-game
Yes? So that proves that maybe PoE is a bit p2win.
>limited anything in WF is circumvented by grinding and trading
The ability to replace grind with payment doesn't make it any less p2win. If a paid player has a gameplay advantage over a free player, it's p2win.
>the best weapons in WF arent even available in the cash shop last i played and buying frames is literally dumb
But the best weapons tend to be primes which are tradable, thus buyable with plat.
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i have two pages of uniques in regular HC that i dont feel like looking up prices for, whats the lowest value a unique can have?

1Alc?
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>shitcrows die 3 fucking times in one map
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>>153995567

in wf the only advantage over another played is gained from time played and having correct itemization. sure you can buy a cash shop weapon or a bp from a player and now you've skipped farming the bp. thats your "advantage".

and primes are farmable. the only thing non-farmable are clan weapons (for people without clans or with low level ones) and event weapons. and those you cant get on a cash shop either
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name one thing bad about ZiggyD
hint you cant
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>>153995697
5 alts
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>Game about "meaningful character decisions"
>Ascendancies barely make you choose
lmao
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>>153996039
My first build was a recommendation by him, and it was shit.
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I need your help guys, first time attempting a necromancer.

Zombies + Spectre, Evangelists.
LIfe, using Ar/ES armors (and new bone helmet)

Eldritch Battery + MoM for a bit extra survival. Will use EE with curse on hit lightning orb to debuff fire and cold resist , hatred and possibly added fire for the spectre, going off their phys.

Anything else i can add there? Is vaal skellington any good or i should go for haste instead ?
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>>153995734
feel free to post your deathless shaper kill :^)
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>>153996039
he's not projectpt
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>>153996330
ditch everything go srs
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WHY DID I DECIDE TO PLAY VORTEX THIS LEAGUE, CLOSE RANGE SUCKS DICK HOLY SHIT
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>>153995406
freezing pulse has higher base damage even after the spear buff, natural pierce and a wider projectile, while costing less mana and casting at a higher rate than ice spear. freezing pulse has a 125% damage effectiveness while ice spear has 80%. it's better at clearing, it's better at freezing, it's easier to sustain, it works better on totems, it works better self cast, it outclasses ice spear in every category except crit chance.
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>>153995734
>bv memefinder with exalts worth of gear
>still dies
shitcrows get your act together holy shit
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>tfw Zana's decorations are pricey as fuck
>>
I still can't believe frost wall is gone
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>>153996854
whys that
>>
when are you uber lab ready.
in terms of dps and hp
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>>153997525
6k hp, perfect flasks is when i feel defensively safe
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>>153997502
Because it's not blade vortex so I can't get unlimited flask charges.
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>>153997525
When you have 5c ready bro
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Idk anymore, this league is pretty shitty
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE NEW SKILLS
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>>153997773
idgi
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>>153998091
laser beam and target ice ghost soon fellow shitter
>>
Playing Titan QUest, i am now convinced that the way to make Summonign build less shit is to include VERY basic pet instruction. Just an option between agressive (go forward to attack whatever is on schreen) and defensive (actual) would already be a big plus.
>>
I need 100 mana regen per second.

how will i achieve this, /poeg/?
>>
What build should I play if I want to right click and clear the screen?
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>>153959476

For specters? Doubt anything is better than necros specter node.
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>>153999047
Clarity, passive % regen, % extra mana.
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>>153999109

Vall Reave slayer
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>>153999047
Stone Golem, Zealot's Oath, Eldritch Battery
>>
CoC discharge is still the best version of CoC. My friend is doing BF EK coc on a 6-link and his clearspeed/singletarget is fucking abysmal.
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>>153999640
Shield charge CoC discharge looks viable still.
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>>153999109
4 rolling flames elementalist
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>>153996145
>lets put classes in our nonclass game
lmao
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>>153999863
FUCKING
THIS
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>>153996145
wut
my hipster build has no use for the fourth set of points and barely any use for the third set of points
it would be better in every regard to have picked pathfinder, but i chose a terrible class for the humor value of the second set of points
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>>154000979
explain
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>>154000979
Come on, you can't say something like that and leave us hanging.
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>>153999836
Nice build for mapping but how do you deal with bosses without frost wall?
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>>153998091
Right here

>>153998373
I want laser beam to work with chain so you can get some raiden tier lazers going on
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>>154001656
OH FUCK THERE'S A SKELETON INSIDE ME
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>>154001656
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>>154001656
>There is a skeleton inside all of us
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>mfw kripp decided to go firestorm
fucking idiot this shit is boring as fuck..
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>>154001656
>Everytime you cast summon skeleton there's a small chance it's yours.
>>
>everyone whining about maps yesterday probably rightfully so
>it's hotfixed today
there's a reason poe has 11000 viewers right now twitch kripparrian
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>>154002151

Lemme guess, if he leveled with wands you would throw a shitfit as well.

Firestorm leveling is a staple. Deal with it.
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how do we get kripp to go blade vortex?
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>>154002219
>10% chance to summon empty sack of flesh
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>>154002310
how do we get kripp to enjoy the game again and make him make his own build?
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Anyone on HC Essence wanna buy this? 1.5 exalt bro deal.
>>
Why does this 13mb update say 1 hour remaining?
>>
Just did an arachnids nest map

holy shit that map is comfy as fuck.
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>>154002647
>proj speed
I'll give you 5c
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>>154001656
spooky
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>Kripp just trying to facetank everything

I'm surprised if he lives before the stream ends.
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>>154001656
Looks breddy gud.
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I forget this shit every league; is the hideout master limit from the master you got your hideout from or the highest level master?
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>>154003097
its the size of the hideout unless they changed it, so hideout master
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>>154003097
i don't know
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>>154002736
most of the new maps are comfy as fuck
and some are fucking huge
feels like a classic dungeon crawler sometimes, rather than something you blitz through in 2 minutes i love it
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What would be good jewells for an infernal blow juggernaut? I only vaguely follow a build and that does not tell me what jewels to use anyway. Are there any special ones or should I just keep those I find with a lot of DPS/health/armor and run with it? My char uses hatred and warlord's mark as aura, cwdt blood rage + molten shell, a stone golem, fortify on leap slam and enduring cry to keep my loads of charges going during a boss fight.
I guess I could need some more chaos resist...
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>>154003597
>infernal blow
stopped reading there, take your garbage build back to plebbit
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>>154003687
Anon, it is fun.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1724042
it's like they gathered the shittiest builds they could find
surely this will hook up the new players
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what do i roll if i want to play as an stg boss
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So how is blade vortex after the patch?
I feel like that huge drop to maximum blades at a time makes it feel clunky, as cast speed is no longer priority.
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Fuck man I'm obsessed with my sister.
I don't want to allow her to go and see this idiot today...
Fuck you Bryan shes my sister and not your slut.
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>>154004505
Bryan here, it's going in her pooper tonight.
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>>154004505
our guy helman is playing it
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>exa and ToH prices rising faster than i can farm

fuck my life
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>>154005063
>found two exalts today and sold a shit 6l for two more
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>>154005131
I have 65 hours /played and i havnt found anything above 6c
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kripp has like 5 rank 1 demis and 100s of alt art demis and there are people who unironically think he's shit
>>
what if poe got a kanai's cube in the form of a free tabula as a character perk meaning it's not equipment just a place where you can create up to any 6l you want
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might just quit this league
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>>153932015
And he's SRS what an absolute shitter
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>>153933190
Nobody uses trade chat bro
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>>153932015
why did he stand in the slam

why did he do that
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>>154005630
should try quitting life my man!
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>>154005326
>not calling it a horadric's cube
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>>154005907
rude and uncalled for
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>>154006019
he was right anon. this is the BEST league and if you can't enjoy it you might be broken
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>>154006303
isn't it just normal league with FREE rares
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>>154006402
yes but economy reset and atlas is carrying it
>>
reading the official forums makes my head hurt

how can people be so clueless
>>
>tfw shiggyp tries to buy something and you tell him nope
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>>154007130
you freaking OWNED him
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>>154007174
baited i've never even played hardmode
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>>154007234
softcore is hardmode because you actually run maps above t7
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>>154005781
>why did he die to a boss mechanic he was unfamiliar with
tell you what kid, how about you get past t5 maps then you can come here and talk shit about how higher level players are bad?
>>
first of all i'm probably the oldest person in poeg

second of all i made it to t6 maps before i died

third of all he knew the fight mechanics
>>
fourth of all shut the fuck up
>>
What is/was your favourite build of all time?
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>>154008132
i'm 29 next month beat that shitter
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>>154008610
i couldn't pick one but my top three would be:

crit BF poison trapper was my strongest build and got my first uber atziri kill with it

my first EQ champion was just all around comfy and fun to play

then my flameblast elementalist was probably my best mapping build; strong, safe and fast (farewell 2.3 elementalist)
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>>154008610
Ice Shot Assassin. RIP Frost Wall.
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>>154008797
want to be my friend?
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>>154009191
i play softcore sorry
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>doing lab 20 levels below me
>turn brain off
>mfw i run with a spinning blades trap and die

i hate lab so much
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>>154008610
i played a LL KB scion right when KB came out and it was so fucking fun carrying full parties
>>
best current builds for hardcore essence league?
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>>154009530
you should rather hate yourself though
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>>154009530
>Not knowing the solution to most puzzles by heart already
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>>154009779
kys fag
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>>154009530
i died to lab traps/trials like 7 times since lab was introduced
in my defense most of those were due to being extremely tired or lag
>>
>>154009821
>>154009530
you are very bad at the game and should consider quitting
>>
>>154009921
you should kill yourself because your a faggot
>>
>>153969549
No currency tab. How does it feel to be such a poor fag?
>>
>>153960923
If you don't like grinding through the initial stages of the game, why the fuck are you playing in the game mode where you have to grind through it again every time you fuck up?
>>
>day 4 mjölner
Feels good.
>>
>>153964549
Just wait for the "don't die for 180 seconds" daily, then find an empty time/place sarn arena and afk.
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>>154010301
>day 4 garbage
Feels 10 alt and 7 alch shards.
>>
>>153966510
Decent leveling item with all the added damage. I had one drop in A1N, basically wore them all the way through normal. For an IIR/IIQ build, there are better items to wear; if there isn't a better glove slot, you probably want to use your glove slot to make up resistances/life/defense for the shit you don't have in your other IIR/Q slots.
>>
Finally got enough currency for my ToH, what's next, vinktars or Rumi?

BV memefinder if ou couldnt tell
>>
>>154010414
>I know nothing about the game mechanics
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>>154010571
rumi's
>>
>>154010673
I'm life based MoM though, i'm having issued with mana

I currently run life flask, ToH, quicksilver, basalt and a mana flask

What am i supposed to drop for umi's? Hard hitting enemies empty my mana pool instantly, i feel like without the mana flask i have a hard time
>>
let's all troll ziggyd by asking for a trade and when he ports and waits we never join and eventually leave the party
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>>154010774
drop qs, roll adrenaline on basalt as a substitute if you really want ms

you don't need ms unless you're shield charging anyway, use wb
>>
>mfw spectres with soul eater, full charges with charity, and unholy might

I AM A GOOOOOOOOD
>>
>mob drops a two unique items in a row
>another mob in the same zone drops a 6L and a 5L
>think about how I'm going to utilize those uniques and 5L/6L for my char
>suddenly wake up from the dream
Thats what I get for playing Path of Exile two days in a row for 18+ hours each session
>>
>>153972976
Get a job fag. Spend 20 bucks and it's more fun than any other game
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>ss
>stay safe
autism community
>>
>>154010858
I use wb but it feels really clunky since i dont have a lot of attack speed (it has fa ofc)
>>
>>154010985
They're not saying stay safe, they're letting you know they're neo nazis.
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>>154010985
Who /ss/?
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>Increased the drop rate of maps by around 5%.
105% of 0 is still 0
>Increased the drop rate of Sextants.
same
>Zana is now not limited by your Atlas progression when selling maps.
thank you based ggg, chris wilson is my god
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how am i supposed to get enough resistances to take off this goldrim ;_;
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am i holding on to too much shit?
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>>154011897
just buy a tri res helmet lmao
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>>153953605
>Earthquakes created before the first one has erupted will not generate their own aftershocks

Useless if you plan on spamming build. If you only want to use Earthquake once every 3 seconds or so, then maybe it might be for you.
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Why doesn't this have an auction house system like WoW?

Where players can buy/sell shit for ingame currency via automated auction system. Why must you whisper to others and "trade" shit? I get the autism whenever I have to interact with people.
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>>154012418
it keeps trading honest and intimate
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FUCK YOU
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>>154012418
Because barter economy is preferable to an auction house system. Your autism is your own problem.
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>>153965894
kek
>>
someone make a new thread

or don't

who cares really
>>
>>153985203
I believe you and like your game
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>>153996039
Cookie cutter builds and shit facial hair
>>
>>153999109
EQ
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>>154009530
I hate the lab so much I'd pay money to just get my asc points. Pure tedious shit
>>
any botters here?
>>
>>154015749
>>154009530
>I have to pay attention in order to appropriately react to actual threats
>that's what tedious means
>>
there's a jeweler's strongbox in lunaris floor 2 and i killed everything it summoned and now it's just sitting there like an asshole
please advise
>>
I DIED AGAIN
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>154016714
probably a chimera ran around a corner and forgot about you
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>>154011007
Whirling blades is much, much better with increased duration Vaal Haste. If you're doing life/mom, add Blood Rage for frenzy charges if you haven't already and get used to quickly unwearing/wearing the item it's linked in (iirc I had faster casting, lightning warp, reduced duration and blood rage linked). Finally 20 quality on whirling blades and faster attacks make a huge difference, so get those.

Making whirling blades quick will really improve your clearspeed and it will feel nice to use. For added fun you can do stupid shit like adding innervate to blade vortex if you don't need one of the damage supports for the content you're doing, works great with Vinktar's.
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>>154016714
Sometimes if it is an exploding one, it waits for you to get close so it can explode in your face and then open.
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>>154017135
Wait what do you mean with equipping/unequipping the item? What is that good for?
>>
>>154017139
>>154017045
turned out that one of the mobs lightning warped across a river so i had to run the long way to reach it
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>>154017279
To remove blood rage, as it damages you when it's up.
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>>154012303
Anon, builds tote on having Aftershocks within .1 seconds for a reason.
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Can someone explain the Quay map boss to me? I kill it, it respawns in a smaller version and after 5 repetitioons it dissapears without dropping a single item

Whats that about?
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>>154016301
new map you cucks
>>154016301
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>>154016807
me too, but i resurrected at checkpoint :o)
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