/simg/ - Simulation Games General

>>153832387
2 nukes was not enough

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Long live MiGs

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Thanks for the thread OP man.

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H
A
V
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This kills the slav(e).

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>>153832923
M I N E S H E L L

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Look at this shit

Look at it and then look me in the eye and tell me with a straight face that they'll do any other plane justice

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>>153833570
>The HAWK
Please dont remind me of this horror VEAO should put out a alpha model so we can check if they are fucking us again

>>153833792
They're not going to though because they can't take criticism, hence why the P-40 has only been shown off at air shows and the like.

And I just know from how bad the lighting has been in the screens they've released, it's gonna look like shit.

Hopefully it at least doesn't fly like shit because there's no excuse when Duxford give them access to one, but then again they are British.

>>153833929
I am disgusted that i live in the same country as those dipshits

>>153834060
Me too lad

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>>153835121

Are there any DCS/combat flight sim related podcasts?

Since I can't alt tab in BoS for whatever reason I need some long-form audio to listen to as I'm flying.

>>153834225
Me third.

>>153835121
>>153835460

fuck off with your scrub webms shitlord

>>153835121
>he didn't bother shooting back
What did he think was going to happen?

>>153838838
It's the AI.

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guise, i pirated x-plane 10.45 and it's such a crap

how can i even turn my head in the cockpit, it suggests to use arrows which is pretty inconvenient but only the up and down ones work, so the only way to look around it's to set "chase" view and to look with the mouse. its authors would better check how warthunder does this stuff with a pretty convenient alt-key mouse view

furthermore, to use its mouse control is a chore for my wrist and it doesn't give any option for the primary pitch/roll/yaw keyboard controls whatsoever unless i buy some additional jew plugin to allow them. wtf is it? don't tell me to buy a joystick, i'm sure i could control the light planes with a keyboard just fine. may be it's possible to get that plugin pirated too? fuck it, i'm downloading flightgear

oh, did i forget that x-plane looks as if it was made by coders who can't make a proper installer/de-installer? because it does

>>153838903
Figures, the pilot was way too calm.

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>>153832652
>6x .50 Cal MGs or 4x 20mm Hispanos
>Hihg speed
>1 Man Cockpit
>Dank Yoke control
>WING BAZOOKAS

Literally the American Peshka.

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MiG xaxa

does anybody even play civil air sims here?

P-39/P-63 in BoSomething when?

>>153840334
>Load in with no ballast and empty front gun magazines

>Flat spin city

xaxa oops

>>153840060
Some do.

>>153840396
Show em a little trick I lernd

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Craigu pls come back ;_;

>>>153427680
how do you find targets at night, im new to simming and find it extremely difficult even in daylight

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Afghan Ops server coming up right now if anyone wants to get in TS and play

>>153842746
Finding targets is just a matter of practise in some part but also knowing where to look and what to look for.

Helps if the mission maker isn't a mong and adds a provision for recce to mark targets

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ops, get in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDvJqdbQtEw

>>153843398
What kind?

>>153843464
war thunder raid

>>153843579
>War thunder
god no

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>>153843704
just kidding it's afghan ops

>>153844007
RIP power station

>>153840060
I play FSX:SE.

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remember not to damage the infrastructure or you get mission failed ))))

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>>153849613
k

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>>153849613
Ok

>>153850736
Fuck off Greg

>Bodying MiG 21s in an F-86

I'm becoming an ace pilto

>>153852958
>we need to go deeper
next up, bodying f86s with bf109

>>153853824
webm of the K4 removing an A10 never ever

ded

>>153858740
busy playin games inn I

why isn't Arma considered a simulator?

>>153862491
>A thread for all vehicle simulation games

Hey guys what happened to the sims general?

Basis F-5 vs MiG 21 server is back up lads. Who wants to fly some 3rd gen goodness

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Hey guys I want to carrier.

Whats the ETA of the navy planes in DCS?

Also, what do I play for WW2 carriers? 1946?

>>153866000
il-2 1946 is still your best bet for ww2 pacific stuff. Navy stuff is a long time away for DCS.

>>153866251
Long in like next spring or long I will have retired by then and have the necessary time to master them?

>>153866749
We'll all probably be dead

>>153866749
Well I think the F4U Corsair is coming out eventually, along with the F-14. I'd expect to hear more about those both by next year. So maybe 2 years minimum.

>>153867160
>F4U Corsair
Oh shit nigga

>>153867526
Considering LN is making it. And consiering that we've heard fuck all, don't get too excited

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOJKinBIZgY

Looks and sounds absolutely VEAO-tier

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>>153867624
>LN
wew i dropped that one fast

>>153867661
This is the VEAO P-40 no?

>>153868224
Yes, they (virtual horsemen) have been streaming and testing it out.

The external sound when the cockpit is open is kinda okay I think, but the overall model and texture quality just feels.... FSX mod-tier. And the rest of the sounds are horrid

>>153868343
>>153867661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-kCeuxMBoQ

Here's an example of how a P-40 actually sounds with the cockpit shut

>>153868343
>still doesn't have gunsight glass.
I bet the cockpit lighting still looks like aids too

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I wish we would do IL-2 1946 ops, BoS + CLoD is cool and all, but I'd like more variety, even at the expense of visuals and fidelity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOfPJhmvu5Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg375wFH-Sg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad2cA6tNOs4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zY6X10zo4E

F-5 vs MiG ops when

>>153867661

>sounds
Yeah def. Like, all the WWII modules have shit sounds stock, but those take it up to a ridiculous level

>looks
I dunno, the only thing egregiously bad about the cockpit I can find is that the rivets on the canopy rails are entirely texture-only, which looks like AIDS.

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>>153872210
The looks that bugs me are primarily the external textures, like the wings visible through the cockpit.

It seems very flat and lifeless, and while in glimpses there are rivets visible in specular maps, it just doesn't seem right

>>153869680
Fuck, now i want to do 1946 ops

>>153867661

So, I just skipped through most of this shit, do they ever do anything more interesting than a fucking lazy banking turn and simple station keeping in formation? Or do they have to hide the broken FM with the most pedestrian maneuvers possible?

I really don't understand the whole ~virtual aerobatics~ meme. Real-world aerobatics displays are cool because they take skill, there's a significant risk to the pilot in more dangerous maneuvers, they're tossing these heavy aluminum machines around and doing crazy shit with them. All you have to do to do virtual aerobatics is learn how to fly the plane competently. I've never seen anything impressive out of these shitshows- it's always just "hey, we can fly in formation!" (which is, admittedly, pretty hard considering DCS's shit netcode), or "hey, I can do a low pass!" or some shit.

>>153869680
FAB TRAIN BUSTING OPS W H E N

>>153872948
All of this senpai. I don't get it either.

>>153869680
>'46 ops
Fuck, I'd like to join you guys for those but the stick is dead and there's no replacement in sight.

>>153872948
>>153873335
They're just doing some basic formation shite, and yeah it's pretty pointless.

There's no stalling, no torque rolling or anything else to expose any flaws in the flight model that you could miss

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ops when

I always assumed the 37mm gun pods had a stupidly slow cyclic rate, they fire incredibly fast though.

>>153874002
looks like rockets instead of 37mm

>>153876472

Too fast for rockets, not enough dropoff

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A E S T H E T I C

>AI gunners always leave the weapons completely dry whenever I take control

Happens every single time, I'm starting to wonder if it's a bug and the magazines just empty themselves as soon as you take position (that or they don't reload themselves).

Also, got a couple of questions regarding the BOS singleplayer (playing through the campaign out of sheer boredom)

>What does your pilot 'level' dictate? Anything other than showing how much time you've played?

>When flying a bomber, what counts as a 'building' in terms of getting points for destruction? I want to assume that any building counts, would firebombing Stalingrad or similar get me a shit tonne of points? (want to fully unlock the aircraft while I'm doing the campaign and want to know the fasest way, especially in regards to the bombers, flying 100km back to base is a chore, especially when time acceleration doesn't seem to work properly)

>>153878939
>want to fully unlock the aircraft while I'm doing the campaign

you do know you don't have to do that anymore, right? They dropped the unlock system.

>>153833570

Is this the infamous first release Hawk cockpit?

I've only ever seen the redone version.

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>>153879067
Yeah, I'm just autistic (like the rest of you) and want to see those green bars filled up.

Gives me an excuse to fly planes I wouldn't otherwise and make the grind less painful.

Hey /simg/

I like IL2 games, I want to play a modern fighter game/sim with the same depth as those games.
But without having to study and learn startup stuff and so one. Is DCS for me? It seems a bit more
complicated than IL2 games.

>>153879874
FC3 modules for DCS are for you.

>>153879874

Only one modern fighter in DCS currently has a detailed startup sequence (the Mirage 2000C), and it's not terribly difficult t b q h. The Flaming Cliffs 3 fighters (F-15C, Su-27, MiG-29) are pretty close to IL-2 levels of depth- no clicky cockpits, everything is handled through hotkeys, non-combat systems are simplified, all that jazz.

But with any modern fighter, you WILL have to do some studying. It's not just yank and bank or boom and zoom like a prop fighter, you have to learn how to use your radar, how to best employ different kinds of missiles, how to defeat enemy missiles, all that kinda shit.

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>>153879874
Depth as in non-clickable cockpits?

DCS Flaming Cliffs 3 module (includes F-15, Su-27, A-10A, Su-25, etc.) are all in that category (decent to good flight models with non-clickable cockpits, everything done through keyboard shortcuts)

I'd argue that the fully fledged modules with clickable cockpit switches aren't any more difficult, and are a lot more fun to learn. I'd actually had an easiest time learning standalone modules than I did FC3 because I hated learning the shortcuts, whereas I could just find the correct button and press it in another module.

That and going through each and every controls menu for the aircraft in FC3 and setting up your axes and joystick/throttle buttons almost killed me.

>>153879874
I'm of the opinion that the mainline modules in DCS only look hard because you're learning both the aircraft, and learning how the game itself works. The Mirage 2000 for instance is really not that difficult to start up at all, or to operate.

>>153879947
>>153880109
>>153880163
>>153880310
Thanks guys. I have DCS somewhere on steam, I will try FC3 and the A-10 module, see what feels right. Any basic tips before diving head first into these games? I am only familiar with WW2 air combat, what am I in for?

>>153880709
A-10C is one of the most complex modules there is. Unless you're talking about A-10A which is a perfectly fine module and very fun to play with

>>153880709
It's a game that you can't really play to 'your style'. You have to learn how to play it on it's terms, not yours. DCS can be quirky to learn on.

>>153880709
Do you have head tracking and a decent joystick/throttle set up?

Game is fun, but without them it really is a chore at times. It made me invest in an expensive HOTAS/rudder/headtracking set up just to get away from the keyboard controls for slewing/china hat/boat switch, etc.

It's a whole new world once you've looked around with headtracking, I can't go back to playing without it. It's like looking through a letterbox, like playing a shooter with an FoV of 25.

>>153880709

Modern air combat is really unintuitive, so prepare for a lot of frustration as you learn how to maneuver in a world where BVR missiles are common.

>>153879478
That's it as of about a month ago. Haven't touched it since

>virtual aerobatic groups get special planes and treatment
>in Digital COMBAT Simulator

what a joke.

I bet there are faggots right now who are hype as fuck for the F-18 for no other reason but to fly as le blue angles.

>>153883646
Of course there are. These are the cunts who were hyped for the Hawk because le red arrows

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wew

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info on the F/A-18 when
info on the Spitfire when
info on the Cobra when
info on the Hind when
info on the Bo-105 when

>>153886765
Info on the F-4U when?
Info on the AJS-37 when?

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>>153887927

I'm thinking of making a mission lads. I literally have no idea how the mission editor works though

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LEAKED P-40 COCKPIT FOOTAGE FROM VEAO

>>153889020
I see they improved their texture work from the Hawk.

>>153888726
Just try it out. It's extremely intuitive.

>>153889409
I'll give it a go tomorrow

>tfw unable to host even if I make something playable

>>153889020
I can tell from just that pic that the flight model will be fantastic. Day one buy desu

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I miss the old /simg/, straight from the ops /simg/
Chop up the BLUEs /simg/, set on your six /simg/

I hate the new /simg/, the bad thread /simg/, the always dead /simg/, the sperg /simg/
I miss the sweet /simg/, fuck up the 104th /simg/.

I gotta say, at that time I'd like to fly with /simg/
And now I look and look around there's so many /simg/'s
I used to love /simg/, I used to love /simg/
I even had the /дa бoйз/ tag, I thought I WAS /simg/
What if /simg/ made a song, about /simg/
Called "I miss the old /simg/"? Man, that would be so /simg/
Thats's all it was /simg/, we still love /simg/
and I love you like /simg/ loves /simg/

>>153872595
>>153873127
>>153873368
I hear a lot of people complaining about 1946 and how it's FC3-tier. That may have been the case when it was released in 2006, but since then some devs have been adding crazy amounts of functionality and simulation into the game to the point that certain aspects of it that put it up there with CLoD and BoS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUybNFyuqg8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCqJjKDx09I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kFDz-Yi1Xg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IryQHLG4ySA

>>153889754
Golden

>>153889502
someone else hosts my shit 90% of the time, no worries there.

>>153889803
I feel like its distant from CloD and BoS, even after modding it. It's still nice and has obscene amounts of content, making it quite replayable.

Where's the BASIS server? Why did the most fun I've ever had in DCS go away?

>>153889803

Why does everyone always say FC3-tier as if its a bad thing?

>>153892285
Because when people fly full fidelity modules exclusively it gives them a superiority complex where they feel like they have a big dick and are allowed to smack it in everyone's face because they have to spend 8 minutes for their ILS to align .

>>153892397
F-four minutes

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>>153892487

Can we just agree FC3 is babbie tier?

>>153893979

It really isn't much easier than planes like the Mirage or the MiG-21.

I have only a 3D pro, and I bind everything in them to be the same as my FC3 planes.

Now what is the difference? Besides an actual start up sequence?

Now I only argue this way because some of the FC3 planes are some of my favorite all time aircraft, and they will never EVER be full fidelity, so I'm stuck flying them forever and getting called a babbie when I fly them.

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Wing vapor effects added WHEN?!
>Fucking FC2 had wing vapor effects
>Current year

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>>153895604

Fucking BMS has them.

>>153895534
mig29 fags get out

also the m2000 is infinetly more in depth then fc3 gtfo nigger

>>153898595
t. eurofag

>>153898764
t. fc3 babbie

>>153898595

You have an argument against the MiG-29 because its flight model is SFM.

At least almost all other FC3 planes have PFM.

I feel like a lot of people fly the Mirage because they want to be able to say they aren't flying FC3.

Its really not that much more in depth. Like I said, apart from the start up sequence, everything else controls like an FC3 plane if you bind it right.

You can keep pretending you are some high class of sim enthusiast because you fly a plane for its clickable cockpits over the ones you actually like.

>>153899049
t. auto start babby

>>153899428

t. _____ isn't an argument.

I bet you auto start anyway.

(You) this post if you have never auto started in DCS and don't even know how to do it.

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>tfw you're pushing up from a village you captured earlier in the day, scanning the far horizon for flashes from AT guns or groups of infantry worth putting an HE shell onto, then suddenly the dirt in front of you explodes because a StuG is attacking from the north
>tfw you have to panickedly engage it with the HE shell in your breech, trying to avoid hitting friendly troops
>tfw you finally get an AP shell loaded, put it through his frontal armor, but before you do he puts a shot into your tracks that immobilizes you
>tfw commanding your understrength tank platoon from a fixed position now

it was a short barrel stug tho, thankfully. still, pretty fuckin scary to get engaged from that close while you're standing up in the hatch

>>153899785

I've done it before back before I knew the startup procedures for most aircraft by heart, but after starting up the aircraft every time I feel like flying out and blowing shit up, I can start every single aircraft in the game (with the exception of maybe the Mi-8) from memory alone

It just takes repetition, niggas.

>>153899785
>>153899976 this

And common sense.

If you have the slightest idea of how an aircraft is supposed to operate, starting up pretty much anything comes almost naturally to anyone after scanning a cockpit layout.

>>153899049
Not to mention after take off, 90% of the button presses are done with anyways.

I mainly fly the MiG-21 and the 15, and huey, and feel exactly the same flying any of the FC3 planes as I do flying the click pits. Once you're airborne it's all about the flight modeling

>>153892285
They're trolling. It's pretty simple.

They're probably shit at acm too.

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>buy a fancy joystick
>cant bare playing with it because it flops every time I move it on my desk

What's the solution here? Do i need to fucking physically nail it down to my desk somehow?

idon unnastan

>>153905790
>not having it extended and bolted down to your floor between your legs

>>153906504

>not shoving it up your ass and sitting on it while controlling your aircraft via different clenches of ass muscles

>>153905790
Suction cups.

Otherwise idk senpai, what stick? Don't think you'd have that problem with any Hotas.

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Is graviteam tactics ok here? nowhere to post since /wgg/ went and anhero but i'd like to bitch about how long the rus are taking to rush into my mg positions.

>>153905790

I actually had this problem with a shitty saitek piece of dog shit that I had. Cyborg or something.

The tension on the stick was so high, that I could take one finger, press it on the side of the stick, and the entire thing, base and all would tip over before the stick moved a fucking centimeter from the center.

The way I fixed it?
Bought a different stick.

>>153908159
hardcore wargames should be allowed in general desu senpai

>>153889803
If you want to see some good videos on Il-2 1946 mods and how good you can get it looking and sounding as well as all the stuff you can add in to it, look up "steven197106"

>>153908205

I had the idea to merge /simg/ with basically all "hardcore" military games.

So include all military strategy games, tactical shooters (NOT INCLUDING ARMA) etc.

Reason being, 90% of sim players already enjoy these other genres, we end up discussing them and posting pictures of them, but there is no general.

Literally just merge all the cool ass milsim games into one general. Vehicle simulations is just too small imo.

>>153908297
Setup a vote.
If people agree setup a discord dedicated to amending the OP. Make all the decisions through voting.

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>>153908159
When the thread was created, dedicated to simulator games, you could justify that playing a hardcore wargame like graviteam or hexgame would simulate, to a plausible extent, the duties of a commander and strategist. However, after we had it changed to vehicle simulator games, for the sole purpose of avoiding ArmA shitters, that excuse is not as valid anymore.

Your answer is Graviteam tactics is ok here and nobody will talk shit about it being discussed, since they'd appreciate the thread getting some movement.

>>153908297
It would become a lot more difficult to justify keeping ArmA away. Some autists would try to make it allowed, given that it fits the tactical shooters tag and that it wouldn't have enough movement, at first, to support a general. A few days after it becomes known that ArmA could be possibly allowed, we'd get flooded with /a3g/ shitters.

I'd agree with merging the thread with other hardcore genres, minus everything that isn't allowed currently, since I'm a fan of those aswell. But we honestly need a better idea than "hardcore military games/milsim general" to keep the shitters away.

Think on that, anon.

>>153908796
This
>merge /simg/ with basically all "hardcore" military games.
It will give us a great band of games to talk on and with it brings all the shitters but yes Graviteams and other hardcore games would be nice

>>153908796
>>153908918
>>153908663

>>153908796

/milsimg/

All military related games that have a focus on realism are allowed.

The only game that is not allowed is ArmA because they have proved time and time again that they literally can not co-exist in a general.
They have shit up every single thread they have ever had a claim to.

Lets be real, Vehicle Simulation is just too niche to survive on its own.
You would have deal with the fact that some posts might not pertain to you, but the chances are they will.
Anything that is discussing or posting of military tech would be on topic, and that's basically all we do anyway.

>>153908954
no don't rename it
just leave it as /simg/

>>153908942
:^)

>>153909073

Would shooters be allowed?

They don't really fall under Simulations.

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>>153908954
>The only game that is not allowed is ArmA because they have proved time and time again that they literally can not co-exist in a general.
They have shit up every single thread they have ever had a claim to.

That's too subjective as a reason. OP would need something more solid, anon.

For example, one could argue that /a3g/ is not 2~3 persons who constantly shitpost.

I'm not good with this but I hope you understand the point I'm trying to make

>>153908942
Vote would be nice and necessary but if we're going to use it to call out decisions, I'd recommend discussing and defining what would be voted for some more time.

Say, if we were to start allowing other hardcore military games, what games, and how would the OP be changed to accomodate what we allow/want and to keep what we don't want away.

>>153909171
Shit I dont care just plz no rename
/simg/ fer ever nevr fergetti

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>>153909246
do it right this time

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>>153909246

Its really not.
Ask anyone from /a3g/
Ask the guy that tried to make /tacg/ for tactical shooters. Thread was ruined in a day by shitposters.

Its been documented in the halls of history. Something about 4chans ArmA players is just fucked.
Its a damn shame too, because ArmA has the potential to be such a powerful tool. For infantry simulation its unmatched, and its ability to simulate basically any theater makes it in theory a dream milsim game.


As for games allowed, in addition to what we already have: (all vehicle simulation)
>Military strategy/RTS games that have a focus on realism
>Tactical shooters (PR, Squad, maybe RO/RS?)

The only thing that would be left out that is currently in, is the literally one or two people that play truck sims and train sims.
Nothing against them, but it just literally has no players. If this is to become a strictly military/combat game general, then they don't really fit unfortunately.


Add to the list if you have any.
I'll start writing it all down incase this goes anywhere.

Also need ideas, or if we just stick with /simg/

>>153909820
arma is rubbish

>>153910136
>can't handle the ptsd inducing realism

>>153910259
>Arma
>Realism
Wew lad

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>>153909820
Instead of making a new general for milsims and some tactical shooters, why doesn't /simg/ go back to it's old "A thread for simulation games" and start allowing those particular games in the OP? Expecially considering the only problem mentioned is /a3g/.

Would be a better way of consolidating simulation games and hardcore military games. We'd have the occasional ArmA shitpost now and then but that hasn't brought this general to allow ArmA in the past, it won't now.

>>153872526
What's with pilots putting those teeth stuff?

>>153910303

For infantry, its definitely realistic.

Its the arcade vehicles that everyone hates.

>>153910313

I want a consilidation of sims and military games. It just wouldn't make sense to be called /simg/ at that point.

/milsim/
/milg/
/warg/

Fuck it, just include everything. /k/ vidya general.

>>153910801
/simg/ - Simulation Games General

A thread for all simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, milsims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims and hardcore military games which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.

>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/ /milsimg/

>>153910801

I dunno, I actually find shit like Red Orchestra to be more realistic depictions of infantry combat. Sure, the round structuring and all is super arcadey, but the actual mechanics of weapon handling, suppression, movement, etcetera is all much better than Arma's stiff, clinical shit.

Arma's weapon handling is pretty shit yo.

>>153869680
If you're serious about this, I'm up for it. What mods will we be using? I'll be reinstalling from scratch.

>>153910913

I think we need rebranding.
/simg/ doesn't make sense for the type of general I want to build here.

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>>153910913
>and hardcore military games
hahahahahahahaha

no

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>>153912102
but i want to be hardcor3

>>153910913

>racing and train sims
>in the same general as military games

why

>tfw found cache and reported it to squad
>tfw get killed, medic runs past me 10 times, then leader plants C4 like on me
>tfw he blows everything and kills me too
>tfw everyone in squad was with britbong acccent
>tfw it was chaos
Lesson learned: never join british squad in project reality

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Who enigma here?

Certainly not me. I will never attempt to use this

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>>153915570
Pic related is good movie thought. Watch it.

>>153915324
>Joining chavs
>Thinking chavs can do shit
Why do you think alot of people hate this

>>153915694
Hate us*

>>153915694
>Joining chavs
>Thinking chavs can do shit
Well, it's my first days in PR, and shit like this just makes me ragequit, and never turn on game until my mood is back again
>Why do you think alot of people hate us
Because when some board does something like shooting for example, news says that it's anonymous hackers group?

>>153915324
You just got a squad of shitters m8. Not all brits are bad.

>>153891814
If you're still about senpai, BASIS is populated again, I was playing on it all last night.

Speaking of which, why does the footage OBS records in replay buffer look like shit

>>153916960
Yeah I guess.. I met few really good ones
And I just over raged, sorry for the shitty words, I guess

I disagree with the proposed changes to the thread, it's all well and good saying we'll keep arma out, but at the end of the day how much control over that do we really have?

Plus there are 1 or 2 guys out there who do play racing and train sims and we're throwing them to the wolves in basically an attempt of suicide by shitposting

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>>153910913
>>153911736
>>153917448
Tactical & realistic shooters have enough activity to sustain a thread outside of /simg/, especially with the upcoming release of RS2 and Squad becoming slowly less shit.

They don't need us and we don't want them.

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>>153917448

Yeah I... really don't understand why everyone is talking about needing to merge or change the thread or anything. Who cares if it's a slower thread? As long as the discussion is good, I really don't give a shit

And yeah, the discussion here sinks into the shitter fairly often, but that won't be helped by a thread merge, that'll stop as soon as you fucks stop sperging out and using people with names as boogeymen and if we can get the mods to finally fucking ban the legit shitposters.

What change needs to be made? We already talk about plenty of not-strictly-simulation games and nobody gives a shit. And, if we merge with a game or group of games that have a lot more activity than vehicle sims, we'll basically be swept away under all their shit.

Slow isn't bad, lads

>>153918241
I'm under the impression it's 1 or 2 guys that actually really want this, and the terms will be no arma, and that'll go fucking out the window as soon as the thread gains traction and we'll be back to square 1 with no thread

>>153918241
Slow is bad if the generals die from no posts. Look at /wgg/. Shit died fast without simmers. You could at most turn this into a general sim thread barring ArmA and it would work. Majority of posts would still end up being plane sims.

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>>153918873

When was the last time this thread died from no posts? The last few threads we've left because we hit image limit.

/tacg/ git out and make your own fucking thread.

There's enough of a playerbase in those sort of games to make it so get on it, have the courage to make your own fucking thread rather than squatting unwelcome in an existing one. That's how /simg/ started after all.

>>153918873
>majority of posts would still be plane sims


What's the fucking point then

If I wanted to play a tank simulator based around modern tanks, which are my options? Because I only saw like one game(steel beast) and is old(I'm asuming compatibility problems) and quite expensive.

>>153919343
Steel Beast: Blaze of War

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>>153919343

Steel Beasts Pro is your best bet. SABOW is alright but the most modern tank in it is an M60A1 (pre-stabilizer). SBPro has shit up to the M1A2SEPv1.

>>153919008

I'll try again, but people from here will shit post it and kill it again.

>>153920040
Just do it burger hours when our Dutch friend is asleep.

>>153920067
He's a NEET, he barely sleeps

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So I lurk Magz's discord (sue me) and someone said something about DCS tanks. Magz responded with this:

>"I speak to Matt in there from time to time. I think there pretty serious on it but they want to get the air stuff right first. Still a few things that need modeling."

>>153915650
>faggot propaganda

>tfw we will never have IL-2 1946 HSFX ops because the multiplayer for '46 is dead and no-one wants to play an "old sim".

Feels bad mang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxg_y28d-7k

>>153921307
There have been rumors of a DCS Abrams being considered. I think at one point ED was asking for material on the tank for research, but I wouldn't read too much into it. No point in getting excited for unannounced hypotheticals when even announced things years after announcement to release.

>>153922554
Could never take off from the carriers for whatever reason because I always hit my right wing on the tower.

Doesn't help that the torque pulled you in that direction as well, but even going perfectly straight I still hit it. Had to try and fly off at an angle towards the outside but half the time I ended up rolling off the side without enough speed.

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Ah
Ah
Ah
Ah
Stayin alive
Stayin alive

>>153926514
wait is that real?

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>>153908170
Oh no I got the saitek x52 (its expensive for me), and as you say, even if i pushed the stick with one finger the base is so light it fucking tips the entire thing over, literally how the fuck am I supposed to play?

>>153907649
they don't work :(

For all you guys trying to get gud and not getting anywhere

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1473084201792.webm

>>153927406
t-thanks

>>153927101
the suction cups stick to smooth surfaces

>>153926887
I'd be glorious if it was, but no.

>>153927101
Rest your hand comfertably on the stick then it wont flip over also have it on a smooth surface and not your mousepad. Honestly i dont know how it keeps happe ing to you.
>inb4 greg

>>153930097
Nah, I'm not that retarded. I actually put my stick on a smooth surface.

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I can't wait to finally have some nome shit recordings so I can make dank webms

Does anyone know where I can buy a Tu-95? Thanks.

>>153933992
Could have got one off eBay not too long ago

>>153927101
get them wet you fucking idiot.

Well, I enjoy Euro Truck sim a lot. Anyone else?

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>>153840060
I appreciate FSX

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There's a lovely little weak spot on the bottom right of the Leopard 2's frontal armor - most Soviet munitions can penetrate this zone, and once they do they go directly into the Leopard's hull ammunition. As such, you get results like this.

>>153930259
Set the hand wrest to be comfertable since it can be adjusted, and then rest the full weight of you hand on it, as you move the stick around, then it wont be flipping over.

Reduces carpal tunnel risk as well.

>>153941724
>The germans did always had a knack for making things good at flying
:^)

>>153941724
Is this Steel beasts?

>>153942504
Yes

>>153944089
fug, what a shame I don't have a trillion dollars to play it

>>153948315
It's only ~$40 for a year license.

Persistent BMS campaign when?

>>153921307
>Still a few things that need modeling.
>a few

>>153949132
Time passes differently when you are a slav, made immortal by the copious amounts of vodka you've drunk.

>>153927101
The weight of your hand on the stick should be more than enough to keep the base on the desk.

>>153941724
This is dirty Commie propaganda

t.Leo tanker

>>153923489
FFffffuuuck I love the Draken. What is it about strangely ugly aircraft that makes them so appealing? The A-10C is the same. The Skyraider looks like a flying barrel and I love it.

BST for president.

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OPS

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>mfw just flew IL-2 1946 on a dead af server only to realize I still love this game but everyone else has migrated to BoS or CLoD

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>>153953124
>The 1946 days
>Every serve was mostly full
>Now its only die hard fans with closed servers
>mfw you will never fly 1946 ops ever
End me please and make it quick

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ded

>>153953124
>>153954018

>Used to fly old IL2 online every night
>Mostly flew on the RCAF server which was pretty much airquake with some ground targets and a setting (Winter War '39 for example)
>Herds of TB-3s attempting to bomb the target being massacred
>Guy vulching the airfield with rockets and bombs
>Masses of aircraft chasing one guy

>On a realistic server
>Group of about 9 of us all in Pe-2s and a lone A-20 join up and fly in formation to a target at a port
>The formation breaks as we attack the targets
>Climb out over the sea and head back to base
>See in the distance one of the Pe-2s being attacked and downed by a 109
>Managed to get back to base and
land

Feels bad that there will never be magic moments like that again

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>>153961081
>Those tightly packed Seaflanklets

my


dick

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gib PFM

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>>153961112
The closest thing we have to the old realistic servers are WOL on BOS and the ATAG on CLOD
>Still somewhat airquake but can have a great flight no matter what you use
>But you still lust for carrier sorties drop 500lbs on the nips
>Or doing night raids on the RAF
F U C K

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coming home from early morning raids on terrorist bases comfy af

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bump

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>tfw starting to feel the symptoms of ops withdrawal

>>153968627
SWEET SPIT AND HELLA BRIT

RAZBAM FUCKING FIX THE MIRAGE YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT FUCK

>>153967704
>clipped wings
What's the problem?

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>feel like flying
>it's so much easier just loading up Silent Hunter than setting up my pit

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>>153972920
how hard would you say it is getting into subing as opposed to flight sims?

>>153973659
For me they went hand in hand, if you have the autism for DCS or Falcon you''ll probably fit easily into sub sims. If simple war thunder or arcade flying is your thing then probably not.

You're still moving in 3 dimensions, calculating missile (torpedo) trajectory and trying to rack up kills. Obviously though sub sims are very slow paced and there's no online play to speak of really.

It helps if you actually like the history of submarine warfare and know of the U-boats/the Battle of the Atlantic/the Pacific war

>>153974559

I always found myself getting frustrated in subs. Id never find anything but patrol planes on some patrols, and when I did find targets it's a pain in the ass to get a good firing solution.

>>153975796
Travel along known merchant routes, dive to use sonar to seek out ships, travel well ahead to set up your firing solution before the ships even get there.

The last two are the biggest mistakes of sub newbies, 1. Theyll only travel on the surface and hope they'll somehow just bump into a ship instead of using the hydrophone and, 2. They try chasing instead of leading and setting up their own trap.

>>153976619

Is there any way at all to see known merchant routes in SH4? I have SH3 but it crashes a dickload.

>>153972920
Your screenshots keep me inspired, I gotta try and mess with the settings and give SH5 another shot. I'm the anon who was asking you tons of shit the other night.

Why does the modpack make my uboat look like a rusted piece of shit? And also I did all the config edits, does this mod want you to not be able to time compress past 128?

>>153977893
Steel wolves makes the type VIIA look rusted and old, there's only two texture files you need to replace to the default skin back. I'll look it up in a bit. As far as time compression, yes you need to edit the main.cfg, there's one in the data/cfg folder of three game, and one your SH5 folder in your documents. You can edit all the time compression values there

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>>153978230
"Uboat7A_structure" and "Conning_7A_01" are the two texture files you need to replace. As long as you didnt delete your mods/backups folder they should still be there. They'll probably have extra "dds.wolvesofsteel" or whatever added to them, just rename it so it reads like above, then drop them into the TNormal/tex folder

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>>153961719

>>153940521
Alaska?

>>153940521
>FSX

I don't see how anyone could enjoy that with the literal-on-rails flight modeling

>>153984847
>literal-on-rails flight modeling

I've never understood this. Is it just a more fun way of saying "simplified", or is there more to it?

>>153986248
It means the fm's coding is rigid and doesn't allow anything resembling departure from flight or dynamic spins and snap rolling. You feel like you're on a controlled roller coaster rather than flying an aircraft

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>10

>>153987574
Oh, okay. With everyone calling everything shit in one way or another it gets hard to keep track of what particular kind of shit they're on about.

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>>153987574
On civil flight sims you don't normally fly near departing conditions on big airliners. And some aircraft have said flight regimes covered, A2A do them to some extent as far as I know. It's a realistic enough experience.

X-plane is slightly more fluid when it comes to the flight models, though

>>153941724
nice meme everybody knows konkurs don't fly straight and level

>>153995762
also all russian vehicles should be frontally penetrable by 7.62 like they are IRL

>>153995843
and all russian tankers need to have ravaged buttholes like they do IRL :0

>>153992043
Only civvie sim I've flown is flightgear, the flight models vary pretty god damn hard, some of them either control horrendously or just feel like a UFO. Is it generally noticeable if any of the FMs are on rails in FSX if you don't go out of your way to stall out your plane or what ever?

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100% safe

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Finally got a non shit looking uboat and have it at babby settings. I still ended up getting bodied lmao but I'm getting a good feel for it.

>>154000687
Is it a bit strange that in real life I fucking love operating motorboats and sailing boats, but I just can't quite get myself to give a fuck about naval warfare? Like, I've always thought about how fun it would be to stick a cannon on a boat and shoot shit, but when it comes to actual boats with actual weaponry on them my interest just sort of wanes out.

>>154001906
I can understand that. Boats are big and slow desu. I always thought subs were kinda neat though.

Still prefer planes over all the naval stuffs though.

I want to get back into silent hunter. Which installment and which mods do you recommend?

>>154002785
SH3 overall. SH5 looks better but if you own it on steam just give up on it while you're ahead.

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rip 4chin

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birthday 2day lads

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>>154004726
have b day lad

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>>154004726
Happy birthday anon

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>>154007482
happy* fucking phone

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lmao

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>flying over florida
>constant CAT

>>154009152
I don't get it

>>154012020
the highlighted picture is an MD-88, with a JT8D engine
MD-90 has the IAE V2500, which looks nothing alike

>>154012157
>Civil avation memes

>>154012273
>he doesn't fly civvie planes
enjoy your shit taste

>>154012491
I'd never understand the appeal of flying straight and level for 6 hours and nothing interesting happening, but I don't shit on you for it do I?

>>154013094
>flying straight and level for 6 hours and nothing interesting happening

Srsly?
Not even with all those lovely young stewardesses coming in & out of COCKpit all the time?

>>154016362
Yeah but you can have that done in FSX

also
>not going on strike missions against commies and coming home to dick qts

>>154016362
>Not even with all those lovely young stewardesses coming in & out of COCKpit all the time?

Wew

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RIP

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Bump!

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>>154022931
I still think a DCS style game with a VF-1 would be fascinating.

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bimp

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ded

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spoiler

Let it die.

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>>154029367
Eat shit and die, Greg.

>>154029441
You know I'm right.

>>154030290
>swampnigger booty blasted that we kicked him out for being cancer

>>154030457
He's just buttblasted he's below sea level.

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I think Greg is just buttblasted that literally noone likes him. Why he stays in this general is beyond me.

>>154031801
Maybe he is just masochistic

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>>154032631
I wouldn't be surprised.

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>10

>don't look at the thread for 2 days
>You coons still shitpost about me
Do you dream about me at night too?

>>154036946
>TS fags running everyone away
No wonder it's so dead

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FIGHTER NIGGERS LEAVE US ALONE

REEEEEE

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SHOO SHOO IVAN

>>154040568
>Not jinking or throwing a few rounds even at long range
>Because of this ivan thinks hes stonk plane can shoot you
Needs more dakka

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Somehow the entire flight managed to survive 4 packs of wild ivans and bombed 2 factories and a rail station.

We even managed to bully some ground-ivans on the way home.

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>>154040931
Also quick question, I think by sheer luck the second bomb I released on random buildings managed to somehow hit a second factory.

Is there any easy way to identify factories? I can just barely make out rail stations from altitude and that involves me circling overhead until I get eyes on.

Do miscellaneous buildings (not tied to a factory/railroad/supply depot complex) give you XP/points?

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>>154041278
>Is there any easy way to identify factories
No not really but after a few flights you learn what most targets look like
>miscellaneous buildings
If its got anything to go with the OPFOR then yes but if its civ you just wasted some of your load

>>154041512
>firebombing civilians (slavs especially) doesn't give you XP

dropped

>>154041604
b...but you can have a BRRRRTTTTTTT gun pod for the Stuka

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>>154043315
Stuka's the last kraut plane I have left to ace (I already have everything unlocked but I'm autistic and need to see those green bars filled up).

Stuka's just slow as shit so it takes forever to RTB in it, at least the bombers can go a decent speed (like 400+km/h in level flight).

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>>154043614
>I already have everything unlocked but I'm autistic and need to see those green bars filled up
I dont think i will be able to stay sane if i tried that but yea the Stuka is only good for the gun pods such as the 37mm and the MG81s

>>154043982
All this BoS talk has me tempted to retry it. How are the multiplayer servers these days?

>>154044156
The WOL server is always full at peak and 40-60% off peak times

>>154044156
>>154044303
Oh yea WOL can hold up to 84 slots with a few others having like 20

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>>154043982
Does the Stuka come with the MG gun pods? Might just not have been showing up in my loadout area because I only do ground support in it, I only saw the 37mm dakkas.

To be honest the He-111 only took like 4 or 5 flights to get aced, Stuka might be similar since you're dropping 1000kg on the same targets. It's fighters that take the longest, especially if you're me and can't aim for shit. Maybe Russians will be easier because they're better at turn fighting at low level, which is what I always devolve into doing.

I take it you don't level up the aircraft and what not on multiplayer servers?

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>>154044818
>Does the Stuka come with the MG gun pods
I think they are only used in ground attack
>I take it you don't level up the aircraft and what not on multiplayer servers?
I dont know what your asking here but i used the il-2 web site to unlock mods because i wanted to get into MP as fast as i could

>>154044818
>Does the Stuka come with the MG gun pods?
Yes

>I take it you don't level up the aircraft and what not on multiplayer servers?
You can't, but now there's just a button to click to unlock everything on their website.

>>154044531
Im worried about the netcode. How bad would it be to play with 350-400ms?

>>154045558
i have 150 ping on WOL but giving BOS 2.0mb of net makes it very easy to play

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Let it die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqq3-kTiFVc

>hitler wanted to eradicate this

wtf i hate national socialism now

Can we ban Greg?

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>>154046528
Yes