/mbgg/ - Mobage General #599

to the leader of /mbgg/ guild in Valiant Force accept my request.

There are a handful of decks that do alright against purgatory:
Most sword decks
Combo/rose queen fairy
Aggro blood
Aggro shadow

The main advantage is either being really fast or having a win con that is resilient to p2p


Possible to win, but uncertain:
Any dragon deck with lots of rush, orb dragons may help
Control blood can finish off with direct burn and rush, but that depends on how the deck is tooled
Aggro fairy
Midrange shadow

If you play anything else I either forgot about it or it's screwed

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Mamuru is here.

>>153784268
Midrange Shadow is fine as long as Mordecai is out by then.

>>153784268
>Any dragon deck with lots of rush, orb dragons may help
Are you kidding, m8?

Dragon ramp shits all over Purg.

How about that new Naruto mobile game, huh?

Weren't they supposed to be showing off expansion cards every day? Where's last night's reveals?

>>153786217
Can naruto beat kirito in a fight even

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>>153784349
ayyyyy

people still complain about PTP forest after the nerf?

>>153786486
I have no idea what you're trying to convey by that post.

>>153786573
It doesn't even have to be Forest. If it's a win condition hearthbabbies will complain about it.

>>153786573
The japanese tiered it the second best deck in the game just yesterday behind Midrange Swordcraft, and the game is huge over there

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>have over 5k gold and over 10k dust
>no animated bellringers
>tfw

Current Gamewith deck rankings:
Tier 1
>Midrange Sword
>Purg Elf
>Midrange Dragon

Tier 2
>Control Blood
>Satan Haven
>Aggro Shadow
>Midrange Shadow

Tier 3
>Aggro Dragon
>Aggro Blood
>Combo Rune
>Satan Dragon

>>153787908
Why would they? That's the only way they can get beyond B.

>>153786573
They nerfed PTP's draw but didn't nerf Altered Fate, which is what makes their draw OP in the first place.

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>PTP Forest is so broken, they always draw the nut.............

>>153784578
I feel that the lower speed and easier removal of dragon units make it less certain than the ones above, except for the rose queen deck

>>153791961
>not 3 ptp and 1 altered fate

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Holy shit, I don't remember Chinkcolle being this slow when I played it for the first time.

How did I get past this?

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>Dragon opponent plays Satan at 20 health when I have 5 mana
>win anyway

I love Luna.

What is the worst Gold/Legend in the game?
Arcane Enlightenment?
Angel Crusher?
Chorus of Prayers?
Phoenix Roost?

>>153792027
From Beginner to AA0 i have never seen rose queen a single time
>>153792457
Phoenix Roost?

>>153792457
Out of those, Enlightenment. Worst overall is probably Flame.

Do we know what the stats are going to be for the new weapons in BGHS later today?

>>153792551
>>153792457
Chorus of Prayers gets my vote

>>153792457
Phoenix roost. You're losing 5 play points just to double theirs.

>>153792551
>>153793108
>>153793562
You can build functional meme decks around Roost and Chorus. Enlightenment is a bad card with too few boosts, is a bad card with too many boosts, and when it has the right number of boosts (value wise) will usually still be unplayable because of your hand size and tempo demands.

>>153789591
>Sword top tier in constructed and everywhere in arena
>People argue that Sword is a completely okay class in this thread all the time
So does everyone here just play Sword or something?
>>153792457
Definitely Phoenix Roost because it actively gives your opponent a huge advantage. All those others suck but they don't actively kill you by playing them like Phoenix Roost. One of those special kind of bad cards

>>153792457
Enlightenment isn't what rune wants but it's not the worst card per se. Chorus of prayers is similar, it's absurdly slow but it is technically good value.

Phoenix roost and angel crusher are pretty much game throwing, so probably one of those.

Also theres Hare of illusions, which is slow AND shit value, phantom dragon which pretty much will never do anything, and conjuring force which is just gross. Also like half the swordcraft golds, latham, arthurian light, stratagem.

>>153792889
Nothing reposted to here, at least.

Haven't been following the 2ch threads, I mostly just go there when it's time for card art.

>>153792027
Ramp dragon is considered the strongest deck in NA at the moment.

>>153794013
>Hare of illusions
I got this when I was first starting out and thought it would be great. Keep up a ward so that I can use these neat amulets without my board being left naked. Then I tried it out. In addition to being slow and shit value, it also wastes a space on your board.

>>153794179
By who?

>>153794497
whom

>>153793889
The worst part about Enlightenment is that it keeps getting worse if you don't play it. Cards like Roost you can save till your opponent is low on cards, or Crusher when you're low on cards, but Enlightenment will literally just become a spell that kills you if you try to save it.

>>153793956
>Shadowverse Reddit
>Otohime/Sage Discussion threads
>Everyone arguing that those cards are ok, just GIT GUD
>Aurelia Otohime and Tsubaki Flairs
>Downvoted to 0
Reddit is cancer

>>153794546
noted

>>153794497
http://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/august-tournament-overview

>>153794558
Arcane Enlightenment isnt that bad, at wost its a one card PTP activator

>>153789591
>tfw i spent 3 weeks grinding vials for Vampy-chan's Control Blood
>its not even as good as the cheaper, faster, and easier Sword
Hope i get new cards in september That aren't golds

>>153794681
But this says Sword is the strongest class. Also it's just some literal whos

>>153794645
I absolutely hate every single Sword legendary. Why does the flood/zoo class get 3 insanely good comeback leggos? Do they just not want Sword to ever lose when the deck archetype is really supposed to at least struggle to come back?

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No one expects aggro Rune.

>>153795175
Deck list?

>>153795008
>But this says Sword is the strongest class
Dragon is right behind if you didn't notice.

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>>153795881

>>153796234
>aggro rune
>8 followers
Dank

>>153796234
>Implying that is aggro

>>153796327
It's not really aggro rune, but it's basically trying to convince the opponent it's standard Rune and that the snowmen and golems are just there to trade with cards until the surprise Wind God.

>>153796713
>it's standard Rune and that the snowmen and golems are just there to trade with cards
I don't know how much standard rune you've played but I've won many, many games by slamming people in the face with the snowmen. You can't always DShift/Runeblade after all. The snowmen are very much there for the beatdown plan as much as they are for trades.

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Is it too stupid to save materials to research event tanks like this cutie here? Other than the dogtags her requisites aren't that high.
Or should I just hope to get from drops?

Is there any way to disable jumping in that new SAO shit? I just want to dash upwards and I keep wrecking myself by jumping instead. Fucking Gleam Eyes man.

What's a good deck to counter midrange sword? I've been stuck on A0 and a good 7 out of 10 matches are against aggro or midrange sword.

>>153797953
>>153789591
the best counter to midrange sword is midrange sword

>>153797953
I've generally done quite well against sword with earthrite.

>>153797261
A rerun of her event is unlikely and even if they added her as drop in the next event it would be really low, so go ahead cute is best anyway.

>>153797953
IMO Midrange Shadow has a good matchup against Sword, it has good removal and Death's Breath can really fuck them over. Your minions are also pretty good and combined with your spells, can keep you in the game until you can drop Death's Breath and Mordecai.

>Install Valiant Force
>Try to buy starter pack
>This item isn't available

what do?

>>153798148
Shit. I dusted pretty much all my witch and elf cards since they need the most synergy. I'm going to try building midshadow like >>153798681 says, but I feel shadow has been falling behind other decks recently.

>>153797953
Shadow.
Blood also tends to shit all over sword provided you don't get bad draws.

>>153798779
Isn't the game still in "closed" beta?

>>153798169
Thanks for the encouragement!
Also, what are the best places to get dogtags? The event stages are the only way?

>>153799794
Yes but they are not doing rollbacks appearently

>>153799821
They are only from event stage, there is also a one time quest that give you alot i don't remember exactly when.

>like to reveal cards one at a time
>fat finger two
ancient elf and forte
nice

>>153798779
Only people who got invited to the CBT can make purchases for some strange reason.

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Post legendary collection.

>>153792889
The news post mentions Bump Up level 9 and HP +2000, but not on what. 2ch is shitposting for now so you'll have to wait.

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>>153784143
I think that guild is dead pham but I can make a new one right now since I'm actually active in game to accept invites

Only a dayish left and I still haven't cleared all of summer souls' map. That shit is too hard

>>153804093
>lvl 38
How?

Leveling is so slow.

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>>153803721
Here's my updated list, just for you.

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>>153805867
9000 years ms paint

>>153805867
>>153805996
Aww fuck. Forgot my Rose Queen.

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Retoree = tan Luna?

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>>153803721
Haven't been able to open shit in over 15 packs since I took this, but at least the freebies were nice.

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>>153803721
Second page has a Jeanne, Mythril Golem, and Satan.

>>153806252
>>153805867
I really need those ancient elf legendaries. Trying to run a purge deck since idk what to even to. I should have probably waited for the update before buying cards.

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>>153803721
Animated Satan on the second page

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>>153806650
On the note of posting collections, here's my animated golds and legendaries. How lucky are you guys in this field?

The dragon is grossly incandescent.

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>>153803721
Also have Jeanne, three satans, old man, golem, rose queen and atomy. Only worth while card Ihave would be my animated Otohime

>>153804371
The last one is the worst
>Solo'ing with summer soul
>Get to boss floor by some miracle
>Stupid plant screams nearby for 1 damage, ruining your SP barrier
>Not enough SP to reapply it
Haven't tried again since that run since that shit is stressful.

Maybe I should use Tsuyuha instead since she has an SP barrier too but maybe not enough damage.

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THICC

>>153807520
doggie hip is outrageous

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>>153807520

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Rest in peace mumi kaede. Rest in peace

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>>153804941
I have been playing for almost a week now, also I just made the new guild so anyone who is looking for a guild join up.

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>>153807520
You wouldn't fuck a hell dog, right?

>>153807707
What? She's like a permanent third wheel.

>>153808005
>>153807661
Genesis artstyle was so bad

>Funimation
Even worse

Any suggestions if I wanted to play a mobage that's like... I guess not too active-required, has nice waifus to collect and I can pretend yuri?

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>>153808046
It didn't have to be this way. A shame that sardine didn't even have a birthday line for her.

>>153807520
That one 5 mana 4/4 in haven is better for that

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>>153807520

>>153808524
>>153808005
>>153807520
So are those actually her hands? Or are they just puppets?

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>>153808509
the what?
>>153808005
Yes I would. and the puppets too. Dog girls are great

>50 stack guaranteed 5* gacha
What a ripoff

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>>153808509
You can't just bring it up and not link it

>>153789591
Aggro blood is tier 3? I thought that deck sucked

>>153808781
Just puppets.
https://youtu.be/zx5MbBCpYEI?t=15s

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>>153809267
Oh baby

>>153809672
What makes you think that they're not the main body and she's the puppet?

>>153809267
So she's viable right?
R-right?

>vs sword arena, he's on the play
>Turn 1 ninja
>Turn 2 fervid
>Turn 3 novice trooper
>Turn 4 ascetic knight
>Turn 5 evolve floral fencer
I guess I just lose :^) good game

>>153810520
Eeehhh, I'd run one max, if you have a full(ish) board on your opponent as Haven you're pretty much already set to win.

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>NICE TRY ERIKA, THERE IS NOTHING IN YOUR PATHETIC DECK THAT CAN BEAT THIS!!!!

I feel like there's enough Shadowverse discussion going on here that it should have it's own thread.

>>153811601
Arisa, nothing is impossible with the heart of the cards.

I summon Pompous Princess. Her special effect summons from my deck a 1 playpoint follower.

With that said, I summon Quickblader from my deck.

Then I evolve him to give him a further +2 attack.

Now, for the final touch, I summon Gabriel, the Archangel!

I bestow an extra +4 attack on Quickblader.

And with that done, I attack your life points directly for 7 damage, finishing you off for good!

>>153812458
Nothing is sadder than when someone plays Pompous Princess in arena, and then nothing comes out.

>>153811601
I can't believe they thought nerfing harvest festival would actually do anything to this deck

>>153812656
It slowed it down. You got to draw thise Altered Fates somehow.

>>153812905
>Slowed it down
>Still tier 1 behind sword, the stupidest class in the game
So it went from absolutely ridiculously broken and everywhere to just somewhat broken and still everywhere

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>TAKE THIS!!

>>153813417
like Panzer Waltz dead

>>153813332
I love bell angel memes.

>>153813732

Some other game will take it's place and the split shitposting will start again even if shadowverse splits off, just as usual

>>153813080
>Behind Royal
>7/10 decks in Master's top 10 are Elf Purgatory

I don't know what to play. I hate pay to win shit, pay to skip cancer grind shit, pay to lose less shit, etc.

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>>153815000
puzzle and dragons

>>153815000
Then go play real games not these "free" to play ones

>>153815000
Mobile games might not be for you

>>153815139
Which is what out of these mobages? Or is it all shit?

>>153815000
Panzer Waltz is cute, and there's no gachas, you can get every unit with luck/patience collecting materials and leveling up units.

>>153815000
Neko Atusme.

>Argonaut mission rerun
>Including coop
>No "that" fucking horrendous *8 coop stage
Thank God. looks like colopl is still sane. "That" coop stage is from argonaut event right? You know, the one that needs the player to defend a small shrine from a monster spawn from 4 different direction

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>>153815000
Chinkcolle is cute, and there's no gachas, you can get every unit with luck/patience collecting materials and leveling up tour shipgirls.

>>153815181
Had a pretty good experience with crusaders quest and vainglory so I'm still optimistic.

>>153815000
You're in the wrong thread, buddy.

Just started Shadowverse and I got Fafnir and Forte

How do I Dragoncraft?

>>153815450
Ramp up and go face

>>153815450
Step 1) Play a bunch of ramp cards
Step 2) Play a bunch of storm cards (from your choices of seabrand dragon for the f2p, forte, and genesis dragon) and hit face
Or alternatively
Step 1) Play a bunch of ramp cards
Step 2) Play Satan.
There you go. Absolutely braindead class, can't fuck it up.

>>153815505
>>153815669
Thanks Senpais

>>153815450
T2 - Oracle
T3 - Oracle Emissary
T4 - Cavalier
T5 - Satan

>>153815669
So it's basically C'tun Druid?

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Weapon gacha up in BGHS. Go check news posting for tap pattern and max damage. Main then subs underneath.
Sword
>Bump Up 9, Combo Dmg 5, Combo Count -2
>Damage 3, SP cost 2

Lance
>Transform(fire), Damage 9
>SP recovery 2

Hammer
>Skill Burst 9, Combo Count -2, HP+2000
>Damage 2, Enemy Damage 1
God damn, talk about blatant

Gun
>Damage 8, Combo Dmg 5, SP recovery 3
>Bump Up 4, Combo Count +3

Rod
>Transform(fire), Damage 8
>Skill Burst 4, SP cost up 3

Blade Cannon
>Damage 8, Combo Dmg 6, Combo Count -1
>SP cost down 1, Damage 1

Pistols
>Damage 7, Combo 6, SP cost down 5
>Combo dmg 3, SP cost 2

>>153815845
Yeah kinda; also to note is that some of your class cards' gimmicks activate when you hit overflow (7 mana and above).

>>153816000
the power creep

>>153815845
You mean basically every ramp deck to ever exist in card game history, except instead of ramping into massive threats they ramp into a bunch of incredibly powerful haste minions for some reason? In a game where players have 20 health? Surprising no one, this made it tier 1.
Besides the deck is way better than Druid because Dragoncraft has a ton of really good removal and board clear options.

>>153815845
Satan dragon = Ctun druid
Standard dragon = Old Combo druid

Chaguma marl's 7 sp recover feels pretty shitty

>>153794013
>Latham
>Being ANYWHERE near these cards
You're insane. He's not meta but he's a solid card.

>>153815000
Potion Maker.

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>>153815000
Girls Frontline is waiting u

>Get two 4* characters rerolling in SAO
>Both dagger users
>30 weapon gacha spins later, 1 2* dagger, no 4* of any type

Luck is a cruel mistress

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>Never again.

>>153808005
how many fuckin cards in Shadowverse are just ports from rage of bahamut with hearthstone qualities added to them? 80%? 90%? Are people just too numb to be weirded out by the blatant recycling or did some kinda shady shit go down?

>>153819630
The recycling doesn't bother me. The fact that the animated cards look like complete ass because of it does.

Lost to a Haven PtP deck. Not even mad, was kinda funny. He just kept shitting out rabbits and using amulet countdown cards.

How do you bat the black balls back at the snake boss in flowers of grace? Basically don't use a crosssaber character?

>>153821196
Pretty much anyone that stays put on attack works.

>>153824347
cute scooters

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okay then, there must be some trick here, this being game master and all but i don't get it.

What games did you play for a couple months but ultimately ended up dropping?

>>153825415
This describes every game with long-term commitment I've ever played.

>>153825415
Shironeko. Although I did relapse today
>farm up 90 gems for a 10roll
>0 4*
Now at 1500 gems without a 4* since the last time I played when summer units came out.

>>153825415
Panzer Waltz. Everything else I've been playing for only a few days or more than what would classify as couple of months.

>>153825415
Tales of Link
Tales of Asteria / Toaster
that mtg mobage
several DMM games

>>153825691
Anything notably wrong with Tales of Link? Pretty big tales fan but never tried it.

>>153825774
It's pretty good. I just played till the grinding need became too big to my liking.
You should try it, probably can get several month worth of fun.

>>153825774
Events are really fucking grindy
That's why I dropped it.
Also powercreep and REC nerfing "adjustments" to global.

>>153816000
>>153816097
The hammer isn't as good as you'd think. Charging Skill Burst is way overrated as it is because anyone worth their e-sports would be using Swimsuit Renge for it.

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>>153825415
Last one was Seven Knights. Never really got invested in it, and because of that the grind drove me out.

Currently playing Phantom of the Kill, but considering dropping it. More grinding, some pretty awful RNG applies to many aspects of the game and a lot of really shitty gachas - step gachas with no guarantees or rate ups until steps 4-5+, which often involves several 10 rolls at no discount, premium gachas full of free gacha characters. I'd probably have dropped it sooner if I hadn't had some lucky rolls early on. The girls are cute, but the rest of the game just meanders between slow and tedious and, of course, there's the >gumi factor.

What was the other emulator besides bluestacks? I feel like I recall seeing it in an OP link, but can't remember.

>>153827171
Did the thought of clicking the links ever occur to you?

>>153826249
Right, it's an option for those who don't have swimsuit Renge. There's also seeing if the 2k HP makes up for losing transform or -3 combo.

>>153827234
I forgot how to read for a short while, please forgive me. Emulator button right at top of docs helped me out. I have been awake for too long.

>>153826249
It's not that charging skill burst sucks. It's that transforms are way too fucking strong.
Charging skill burst still hits a fuck ton harder and is close to the wind up speed of Swimsuit Renge even with -5. You really the need it to clear waves to break even.

Now my old paws setup even with +200% skill damage and +50% damage just doesn't cut in the last tiers they've been putting out compared to my transform setups.

>>153826231
>glitch the camera to get an upskirt in western games
>a solid color flat low poly mess or just not modeled at all
>glitch camera to get an upskirt in japanese games
>modeled and detailed underwear that's usually character specific as well and matches the design
Holds true even in mobile games.

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>>153827281
>>153827592
Using the Transformation 5th stage is generally a good test for damage since everything there has some level of bulk, with the stage being level 300. Some enemies are mini-bosses too, like skull thundercunt, pirate ghosts, and xmas gorillas, with some things having over 60k HP and so on.
I can't imagine that weapon or any skill burst ones in particular can break the clear time that transform offers. This was with Mirasol too, not the stupid broken as hell palm tree.

>>153827281
Should be a 15-20% boost to Sadone's skill unless you are stacking mega HP. I don't know whether the HP link doubles the weapon bonus though.

When the fuck are we getting a control Blood legendary worth shit? Why the fuck does royal get 3 beyond broken legendaries, while Blood only has 1 mid tier one? Why the fuck does an aggro class even have Aurelia anyway?

>>153827791
>>153827974
I actually have a +2000 hp hammer already. An old one from the normal weapon gacha that's long since been forgotten.

However, today's girl link is SP, so can't test that. Have both Yukata Sadone and Swimsuit Renge, but haven't invested crystals in Sadone yet.

>>153816097
None of those weapons is good except for maybe the rod.

>>153825415
Shironeko
>4250 Jewels
>Not Memorials

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Finally I'm done with the most annoying part. Although farming got easier with the new high HP based damage green girl.

I should get enough twin buddahs before the next blue ranking.

>>153827592
>It's that transforms are way too fucking strong.
It's a bit of a wonder why most of the bunny cards are really vanilla for damage. Charged attack takes care of nearly everything if you don't have time worries.

Valiant Force is really obnoxious, they lock everything behind account levels, but you level up so painfully slow.

>>153825415
Chain chronicle
HIT
Terra Battle
GBF

most other games i drop within a month but i stuck with those for quite some time.

>>153825415
Fantasica
Soccer Spirits

In take 2, am I supposed to play around the class goldens? I'm used to hearthstone arena, where playing around epics is usually a waste of time, but I guess I have to assume they have the perfect fucking goldens for the situation every time? fucking bullshit

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Anybody playing MURAMASA? The art looks amazing, but I'm not sure what the gameplay is like...

>>153831406
>That
>Amazing
If that's your thing sure, I guess.

Muramasa Miyabi had a short stint here, but everyone dropped it. You'll have to go bother /jp/ for the older dmm version.

>>153816000
>get baited by the hammer
>get pistols instead

And all I have for pistols is incognito Shiho.

I did it. I won.

>>153831406
The stuff in that bowl is somehow shaped like a dick.

>>153833497
>get baited by the hammer
>get sword instead

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Rest of the Moon Rabbit event story, continued from >>153443409
>Sensei and co head toward the location they were told by the rabbit, who used to be an ambassador stationed at the moon
>Meanwhile, the abducted girls are told they're going to be auctioned off "I hope your buyer is a kind lord"
>They're shown the auction crowd, nothing but scary eyes, before the video is switched
>After the others fight off robot Irous and storming the auction, they secure the girls
>They all get really clingy to Sensei for saving them and are ending their sentences with pyon
>The hotel manager shows up, informs them that the girls have been watching hours of videos on having feelings like a rabbit
>However, there wasn't enough time for them to become bunnies, but there's a market for that too!
>It attacks them with real robots this time
>Fortunately the girls didn't forget they're still Hoshimori so they win
>Sensei wants to try to get them to knock it off with the pyon and the clinging, though Michelle doesn't seem any different than usual
>They decide to punish the hotel manager, which ends his dreams of making all people rabbits
>Sensei and co are told how to reverse the bunny propaganda, and hotel ownership is given to the ambassador from before, who also changes back
>Mimi is sad that everyone's speech is back to normal now
>So everyone is safe and they all go play in the casino
Mimi still hopes to become a bunny sometime, hopefully with Sensei too
The end. The only missing part is that they came to the moon for a delegation meeting in place of Director-chan, so maybe they're intending something related to that for the rest of the class?

Still don't know what's with the random dates.

>>153833595
Winners never prosper

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>>153834997
>Mimi still hopes to become a bunny sometime, hopefully with Sensei too
>you'll never breed like a rabbit with Mimi

Rolled Teresa after grinding 45 gems in VF. She's pretty cute but how is she combat wise?

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>>153834997
>mumi doesn't seem any different than usual
Good old mumi. Probably should veer her off the course of wanting to become an actual doll or bunny though

I think most forests go for purg because their decks are too rng otherwise.

>>153834997
Are you going to put these synopses into the BGHS document so those in the future would still have an idea of what went on?

>>153792178
Who is your flagship anon?

>>153836772
Those in the future won't have access to an event they didn't run. Plus it didn't involve individual stories for all of the girls and wasn't especially meaningful.

It usually takes me a lot longer to directly translate too and I decided to stop that for most events unless there are individual stories for girls like Valentine's, Flora, and Summer or a Diary event. Plus I can't greentext and spoiler in pastebins, and google docs are bloated for what they do poorly.

So no, won't be adding these short general synopses to the doc.

>sword satan

>>153836726
Most are using ptp, because it's unfair, unbalance, and none interactive for the opponent. The less your opponent has to say about your wincon, the better it is. There's a fucking reason 7 out of 10 of the best fucking players in world currently are using the fucking deck.

>>153838497
I am ashamed that I have to use PtP now.
It's kinda fun when you're not on the receiving end

Is the weapon gatcha worth rolling for Yukata Sadone?

In Chinkcolle if a girl gets 0 HP in a sortie is she gone forever? I haven't had it happen yet but it almost did on my last run of 2-3.

>>153839205
Depends if you don't already have Swimsuit Renge and/or a hammer with transformation on it. Girl link switched to HP by now I think, but haven't had time to set up for a test.
Also, if the gacha refused to give you who you wanted, I wouldn't roll weapons out of principle.

>>153840185
Nah, they just get knocked out for the sortie.
No perma death here, so fuck your girls over all you want.

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>>153826231

>>153829420
this is why you do singles.

>>153828158
>Why the fuck does royal get 3 beyond broken legendaries
What are you talking about, their legendaries are completely balanced. Especially Otohime!
Honestly who fucking knows. Why the fuck did they give the midrange zoo class 3 cards to bail them out of situations they're supposed to start losing in? That style of deck is supposed to start losing when they overextend and you clear their board or when you snatch board control away from them. It's no wonder the stupid class is tier 1 in constructed when they have no flaws thanks to it except no board clears, which doesn't even matter because Aurelia exists.

>>153840185
No. You lose affection so they're more prone to get hit and miss attacks, but nothing permanent. Can always rise it up again but I'd still recommend to avoid going forward if one of your ships is red and you don't have an emergency repair kit, unless the you think it's really worth it like some boss node.

>>153834997
Wait, so it was just brainwashing them into rabbits? I thought it was literally turning them into rabbits. Because holy shit, this sounds like some sex slave deal.

>>153841169
Sounds like actual rabbits was the original plan, and rabbitgirl sex slaves was the backup plan when they didn't get far enough for that.

>>153828158
I actually would use 3 dominators if I had them, but I have one soul dealer and wouldn't use another

>>153841169
>literally turning them into rabbits
Yeah, that was the original plan, mind and body. But there wasn't enough time so they just did the mind part. The rabbit that helped them only had their body change, but not mind, so they were able to be helpful.

>First 10 packs
Remember kids, rerolling pays, My first fucking attempt literally only had 3 golds, and 0 legendaries in all 18 packs.

>>153840714
Has it been confirmed that singles is the true way of rollan?

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>>153842116
Forgot picture, here's the second set of packs.

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>>153803721

How many Satans should I keep? I only use 1 when I play it, should I liquefy the other?

>>153840787
>>153840491
I'm trying to rush to 2-5 so I can grind for Bongou because Ive been told she drops there

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Getting your first limited card sure feels good. I guess the secret is to spend money, get shit, then roll with the free stacks.

>>153842521
If you're not haven then you can win without it and can shove other Legos in

If you are haven run 3

>>153842670
Never played Haven, nor do I intend to. Every dragon and blood satan deck I've seen runs 1.

>>153842738
Doesn't the Satan Dragoncraft deck run 2?

Anyone here play Shinobi Nightmare? It looks kinda fun and I'm thinking about trying it out.

Please let me remove amulets with the upcoming cards

>Valiant Force
I tried to look for it, but found nothing. I'm playing from EU and I'm wondering if anyone knows something about a EU server. Currently the ingame time server based, which might be a problem for me when start doing timed events. Because I logged in and they did some stuff from 18:00-22:00. This is kind of doable for me, but when they start around 13:00 it's not.
Does maybe anyone know about this or if they might change the time to the time on the device?

>>153843665
Every class already has those, but they're bad if you aren't fighting a purgatory deck

>>153843717
>but they're bad even if you're fighting ptp
Fixed that for you, you're taking 6 from each ptp whether you remove it or not. Good luck surviving all that damage and rhinos.

>>153843717
As in banish

>>153843665
They'd have to be completely clueless to not include cards that wreck the top decks. They can't be that dumb.

>>153843665
They should make a true board clear card: banish all followers and amulets in play

>>153841462
I feel like rabbit girl sex slaves would sell for more than rabbits.

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>>153842604
decided to try my luck with scratch gacha, first time this has happened to me

>>153843786
Right now Runecraft can do that with Petrify but it requires earthrite
otherwise it just turns the amulet into a 2/2 minion

>>153843691
There is only one server right now so there are no EU servers. And the timed events are server based so i don't think that changing the time of your device will make a difference.

>>153843785
I meant that it's even worse because if you have to play it for tempo you lose stats, not that it was good

They could ironically fix this by giving other classes useful amulets

>>153842249
> 10+1 got rubbish, did singles after that and got my memorial
>got 2 different memorial this way.
i thought it was a meme until i tried it. it works for me.

>>153844204
Other classes have a useful amulet called PtP.

>>153843567
another looks like promising but ded game.

>>153843785
>We don't want to change path because we think it's a unique, interesting win condition!
Game would be better off without this garbage.

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>>153840497

>>153843903
>>153842604

Keep going, open your wallet.

So, tested an old hammer with +2k HP versus Anemone (Flora Kurumi weapon) with transform, in the map anon suggested earlier. Anemone has 2 extra damage levels compared to the HP one.

Party was Miko Kokomi, Movie Urara, Bathing Kaede. 12% HP and 10% HP from Kokomi and Kaede. Base HP is 6969 before any of that.

With the +2k HP weapon
>Attack: 5057+6%, Damage 7 on weapon
>HP in battle: 19,445
>Average Fireworks Hit: ~50k
Swimsuit Renge, then 3 Yukata Sadone, repeat once

With Anemone, transformed
>Attack: 5288+6%, Damage 9 on weapon
>HP in battle: 17,005
>Average Fireworks Hit: ~78k
Transform, Swimsuit Renge, then Yukata Sadone until out of sp

Got a little bit further with transform since the later spawns have more HP, but always ran out of SP before the final 3 dragons. However, as you can see, the weapon's HP buff is applied after HP girl link, but the 22% hp buff still works on it. But even if the HP from weapon worked as one would expect, I don't think it would reach that much damage compared to transforming.

I have an Anemone with Skill Burst, but didn't try it.

>>153844982
For a SEA game, this artist is quite talented.

>>153843717
Some are more usable than others:
>Forest
3 cost 3/1, not the worst but amulet destruction condition annoying to achieve
>Sword
Just go face
>Rune
Petrify is excellent
>Dargon
6 cost 5/3: awful value but probably the easiest condition to activate. Great against late game single PTPs but not so much for early drops or bubs that puts down 2 a turn.
>Shadow
3 cost 2/2. Probably the best out of the non-specializing classes. Goetia is cheap both in cost and shadows to use.
>Blood
4 cost 3/3: about same value as forest and shadow versions, triggering condition more difficult to achieve than shadow but not by much since the PTP probably put you close to vengeance anyway.
>Haven
Can't do shit. Try healing maybe.

>>153845391
>Dragon
Dragon's best amulet removal is Orb Dragon, which is a perfectly playable card even in a constructed deck, not that shitty one that only removes amulets.

>>153845660
That's right. Forgot about Orb Dragon

I just started playing Valiant Force, got the 3* Warrior.

Is she good? Is there a list of possible characters that I can get from that first 3-5* roll?

>>153846673
The first roll will always be a 3* that can go up to 5*. You can check them in the Hero - Gallery - Specials, under the Valiant section.

>>153846673
You will always roll a Valiant unit from the free roll. A Valiant unit is the rarest kind that always has the ability to be promoted to 5*. Here is a list of the valiant units you can roll, Lucille the Healer, Kane the Archer, Shizu the Thief, Freya the Warrior, Darrion the Knight and Kiera the Mage.

>>153843567
>gumi

>>153846982
>>153847291
Thanks.
I see that she have multiple paths o 4* and 5* can I choose which class she'll upgrade into?

Also, Shizu looks good with her school uniform. I am tempted to reroll now.

>>153847973
>can I choose which class she'll upgrade into?
yeah. The main idea is usually to reroll into anyone not Darrion or Lucille (though personally I say Lucille is fine since the first 3* healer you get honestly sucks). Also mind their Zodiac if you're into minmaxing.

>>153848376
>Zodiac
I meant faith. Goddamn the FFT vibes on the game.

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>>153847973
Good taste I just finished getting my Shizu to 4* working towards the Assassin job class

>>153842604
Did mine and got 3 Ayames in one pull. RIP stacks....

>>153842249
In Tennis, yes. Singles haven't worked that good to me in the main game.

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>>153803721
Already melted down 1 satan, 2 fafnirs, Gabriel and a soul dealer.

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>>153845261
So basically, transform remains absolutely filthy. I wonder if they will ever release different kinds of transform. Really shouldn't have tied it to weapons.

>>153825415
-Soccer Spirits (when they started nerfing art)
-GBF (when it was still not in eng and I got bored of never getting new chars)
-Valk Crusade (i don't remember why, I think I just was playing it too often and quit for own good)

Then again every other mobage i don't even make it 2 months in...

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>>153850586
>-Valk Crusade
It became P2W.
In the earliest days if you grinded hard enough you could get the best cards just like the whales. There was nothing separating a dedicated player from a whale.

Then they made ranking rewards where you had to grind like 16 hours a day just to rank top 300 or something. It was still doable though if you cultivated friends since you got to fight Archwitches for free without spending BP (which was also sold under premium currency).

Then they changed even that so even if you fight your friend's Archwitches, you still had to spend BP turning it into a game of whoever can spend the most on BP refills to rank.

It's very sad seeing the game go down that route since I had some very fond memories back in university of playing that between classes.

>>153844858
People said the same thing about Satan.

The fact is that there will always be B0 shitters who complain any popular meta.

>>153849975
The only thing keeping transform even remotely balanced is the sp drain and using the charged attack drops combo half the time and doesn't pause the timer, even though the charged attack tends to be stronger than most skills.

Whichever weapon gives transform as a sub is going to introduce a mess. Hopefully it'll be something that's crafted, otherwise it'll be pretty blatant "give us money" signal.
But not sure where they could've placed transform instead. Maybe as a default charged skill after reaching a certain point in story 2? Transformation never had a formal introduction either. No idea what they'll do with other elements to make them different.

>>153851525
Aren't there already transform subs?

>>153852009
Nope. Just the usual buff skills.

>need to clear this story quest with 3 people to get the 2 stacks needed for 25 roll of bonds gacha in scooters
The tension

>>153826231
>1.8k health
How the fuck? Is this just power creep or is she decking out in tons of hp boosting tablets?

>>153853139
she sures seems healthy

>>153851525
Water=Reduces skill combo count and increase attack speed. Active is Skill Burst. Negative effect is SP drain.

Wind=AOE whirlwind and attack speed increase. Charge is a powerful dash attack. Negative effect is double damage taken.

Earth=Super armor and increased damage. Charge attack is V-Hammer, but faster. Negative effect is HP Drain.

>>153851108
oh yeah, that's right, it did become basically a FT job to get the latest lewds. I don't think I even stuck around for when it got even worse

>>153851525
Transform used to just be a gauge that filled up and a button in alpha I believe. I've seen a screenshot of it back when transform was introduced to the game.

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>>153813332
>tfw Bell Angel won't bully you

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>>153834240
Holy shit anon.

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>>153848893
Welp, made 3 single rolls and got this. Not a memorial but the girl I most wanted from the gacha.
Maybe the meme is real....

>supposed to be new cards every day
>it was apparently just every business day
Japan please.

>>153854698
Cutest addition. I hope she beats the faglord for next vote.

But if you think singles apply to weapon gacha, it doesn't. That will fuck you over and rip you off no matter how you roll it.

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Anyone have any feet composition/equipment advice so I can stop being a shit TTK?

>>153853997
Maybe they didn't want another thing that filled up over time like combos for skills?

>>153841462
I don't remember BGHS being this lewd like 2 months ago. Lately they've really ramped things up.

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A wall of tits and stone and making these aggro decks pay for it.

Actually works decently against Haven too since the Mythril Golem will usually puncture through their wards and Petrifying a Sacred Plea removes their options. Mythril Golem definitely underrated.

>>153855476
What map are you at and what are all the ships you have?

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>>153855476
Are you new?
If so use fleets with 6DDs and shit loads of torpedoes, you can add some CLs/CAs latter on.
Increase DD/CL torpedoes by using dupe DDs/CLs as enchantment material, increase CA's firepower and torpedo by using dupes CAs/CLs/DDs.
And don't use BCs/BBs yet, that will save your resources.

Well, that's what I'm doing right now.

>>153855476
You won't achieve much with only DD and CL this early in game but it will save you resources, DD/CL are all about torpedos so try that.

>>153856232
Mithril Golem isn't Underrated, Flame Chain usually just does it's job sooner.

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>>153855129
>Cutest addition
For real, would be nice to get another version of her in the future.

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RIP 40 stacks....now for depression

>>153856909
Airi is cute and great healer, it's not that bad

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>playing shadowverse
>verses A rank Dragoncraft as havencraft
>Clears my board with a dragon warrior and does the "don't let it get you down" emote
>oh shit, it on!
>bait him into 2 themis's decree and out value him even after he played a turn 7 satan
>win the game
Talk shit, get hit. Does anything feel better than beating some BMing faggot?

>>153857651
I honestly hate playing Dragoncraft. I feel safer when I can play multiple cards at a time than just one card per turn. Not only that, but when they have a full board, I'm at a loss on what to do since my board clearing cards are either Fafnir or Conflagration, which I run 1 and 2 of.

>>153857985
I mean the idea is to run such stupid vaue and high curve that doesnt happen. You pretty much just have have to hope you can outvalue their board before they kill you at that point.

Or run dread dragons, dragonnewts and shit but then you dont have room for burst and you have to go for a grindout game.

I like dragon though. Reminds me of my old R/G deck from mtg

>>153857243
It's just depressing as usual falling for shitty gacha bait and getting crap as a F2P player. Hopefully I can get 50 stacks for the next 6* gacha in 2 months if I even feel like logging on again

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>>153856734
Each has it's own tools, this one just happens to be late game with a 6/7 body. I've only ever seen MLG Golem used once against me and a lot of people aren't impressed because they're locked in to the mindset that Rune is either combo or purgatory.

Chain has no place in my deck since Earth Rite already packs lots of early removal and value Golems. It's really for busting through Haven walls or last gasp Otohime/Zinitras.

I switched from Dimension Shift Rune to Earth Rite because I didn't like relying on Flame Chain to save me from Sword/Shadow which it still manages to fail at due to draw inconsistency.

Why in the fuck is Beast Dominator a legendary? Isn't it identical to the fucking dragoncraft silver that does 2 to all when it dies? Fucking hell, even that would be better than this card.

>>153858968
Fair points, I was just explaining I don't think anyone thinks Mithril Golem is particularly bad, it just takes a while to come online with a hefty mana cost. If it's working for you, that's great, and I hope it continues to. I think Earth Rites is the only interesting Runecraft deck.

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>>153859121
its in my deck because it was my first leggo. Also, femdom.

>>153859524
It's just so fucking bad, you pay the rarity cost and face damage for slightly above average stats, but it can fucking kill itself or become useless the next turn.

It has no business being a legendary, when a fucking silver that doesn't see play in another class is objectively better than it for blood. It needs a stat buff, 7/7 minimum.

Anyone here play Armor Blitz?

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>>153857985
>>153858414
I run a Dragonramp deck. Without any ramp source it's mostly trading 1 for 1 or stalling hopefully with Imprisoned Dragon and an early Ding Dong until Goblinmount and Dragonguard arrive. I prefer not to rely on Conflag and Fafnir and just utilize followers and evolving aggressively when behind on the board although I do run Fafnir for insurance.

IMO Urd is one of the key pieces of Dragon even if the targets are just Aelia and Forte.Puts you into a really good position with Aelia and just seals the deal with Forte.


>>153859121
They misprinted the Blood cards, the Golds are the actual Legendaries.

>>153861145
>misprinted the legendaries and golds
I don't know, Soul Dealer and Queen Vampire seem leggo power level. I could see temptress vampire and beast dominator being switched, though.

Why are all Cygames girls so short

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>4:05

I DID IT /mbgg/

I only need FAL now to complete my dream team

>>153851470
There's a difference between a win condition that people complain about because they don't like it and a card that's absolutely overpowered and warps the meta. Path is the latter.

>>153861416
It's funny because Queen Vampire is definitely at leggo power level and is a powerful card that makes every non-aggro Blood list. 6/6 for 6 mana stats with the added bonus of two wards, even if they're weak, and it buffs any bats you already have is great.
And then you compare her to Otohime.
>Sword mains insist Otohime is a fair, balanced card

>>153863127
>Still complaining about otohime
Please learn how to play the game already and add some removal or wards to your deck

Otohime's guards sound like Ooshio.

>>153861795
Man, you gave me a boner to roll.
I am going to roll.

>>153863603
I did 131/403/404/233 if you want to try your luck

Good luck anon

>>153863304
>It's okay guys you can remove her she's fair!
You can execute path too.
Doesn't make it a balanced card.

Does GF work on emulators? It stops responding when you get to start screen on nox

>>153862331
Is Satan even THAT good?
I mean is an obviously decent card, but it has its problems

>It's a 6/6 body for ten, which is a pretty big tempo loss, so you need an evo point, ramp or guardian sun to play it safely against bursty decks

>All of its cards cost 6 or more making you only able to play one at a time

>Inneffective against decks with efficient heals and hard removal options if you haven' baited some of it out first.

>>153863584
And it's strangely endearing.

>>153863938
I would say Satan's pretty balanced overall. He's very strong but he's not as overpowered as people think he is. He's definitely very beatable.
He costs 10, he doesn't do anything when he comes into play and he has poor stats, and you have a 4/10 chance to completely blank on your next draw. Astaroth's Reckoning or w/e and Satan's Servant are powerful but Astaroth's needs you to have a board and your opponent to have no wards and Satan's Servant is, at the end of the day, just a big dork. He's not gonna save you from a losing situation unless you get Dis' Damnation specifically, even Silent Rider can be stopped by random wards, so playing him when you're behind, or sometimes when you're even, is actually a big risk.
That being said he gets a lot better with a Guardian Sun in play.

>>153863783
Here's the ultimate guide of how to deal with otohime:

Look at the removal options and ward options for your craft
Include the good ones in your deck
When your enemy swordcraft plays otohime, drop your chosen card and maybe kill otohime if you can afford it or are able to if the situation allows you to.

Congratulations, you successfully dealt with her! Be proud of yoursel!

What memorial weapons are good? Just the sword? What does the drider and lance do?

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>>153863674
What a weird recipe.

PS: Did 10 rolls with it, best thing I got was a famas

Do I add my current google account I use for my phone for rerolling on Nox or just use a fake one and try system transfer later on?

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>>153864960
>Desire sensor'd

>>153807781
Scrub question but how do i get Valiant Force? I pre-registered on the website but it seems like a lot of people are already playing.

>>153864667
Just because you can deal with a card does not mean that card is balanced.
>Guys, you can counter ancestral recall! It's a totally fair card!
>You can just use removal/burn on Jace The Mind Sculptor, AND you can counter him! Completely balanced.
>Every single creature dies to some form of removal, thus every single creature is totally balanced.
You're a retard.

>>153866152
Apk file, it's posted on the Valiant Force subreddit if you want to do download it

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>>153864960
Looks like RNG wasn't on your side today

For Valiant Force players.

Is a Freya with Hercules faith good? or should I try rerolling?(how do you reroll anyway? make a new account?)

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>>153866870
Hercules is decent for Warrior but the best one is Ares. I would reroll untill you get Freya with Ares faith

Sent a request to the mbgg guild in Valiant Force please accept senpai.

IGN is nara

>>153856381
I'm level 15 and those are my strongest ships. Im on 2-4 and dont have a CVL yet been trying for one because carriers fuck me up in sorties.

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>>153867584
Accepted. I wonder if everyone in this guild list is actually from here since I have no way of knowing .

>>153867596
Do you not have Lexington? You should get her for clearing 1-4, she can help deal with enemy carriers.

>>153856307
2-4 and I currently have
Atago
Maya
Chokai
Furutaka
Aoba
Tenryu
Isuzu
Tatsuta
Koln
Konigsberg
Penelope
Aurora
Omaha
Juneau
San Juan
Fubuki
Shirayuki
Hatsuyuki
Miyuki
Ayanami
Shikinami
Z21
Z22
Juno
Javelin
Cossack
Cassin
Young
Braine
Vauquelin
And Gearing.

>>153868917
You're best off farming early nodes of 2-4 or previous maps for levels and drops for enhancement.

You should focus on levelling destroyers for now. Gearing, Vauquelin, Fubuki, Ayanami, Shikinami, Juno and Javelin all have mods. You might want to use a light or heavy cruiser for firepower, but obtaining cruiser cores is much harder.

>>153851525
>>153853551
There's actually Transform for water and thunder in the files. Flame is for the Phoenix set, Water is for Leviathan, and Thunder is for Unicorn, since it's all named after the initial star uniform series. All of them have the same damage output for their transformed charge attack.

>Spend 45 gems
>Get Marcus
>Start a quest
>Save the Hero bonus mission
>Get Marcus

Wait isn't this against Gacha rules?

>>153861145
Why I only run 2 conflags and 1 Fafnir. They're kind of the oh shit button, specifically for Otohime's or when my opponent does something that wipes my board. Using Urd does seem like a nice idea though., I could get more use out of my storm units that way.

Can someone carry me through the summer soul map with the 4 samurais in the first room and the 2 big ox things with the hammers in the final room

>>153868917
For Heavy Cruiser i find Hipper and Blucher to be pretty strong and kinda common to craft.

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I wonder why the current event levels only go up to 140

What is the best use for gems in Valiant Story? Should I even bother saving up 400 to do a 10+1 pull if the rates are absolute shit, which I assume it is like in 7K?