/smtg/ - 真・女神転生 / Shin Megami Tensei General

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>post yfw

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>>153751643

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>>153751643

Got any good wallpapers of SMT Imagine?

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>Jungo's cat running around looking for Jungo on the last fate event

>>153752169
https://www.google.com/search?q=smt+imagine+wallpaper&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=1018&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiq8eT3y_POAhVD2B4KHekcAvAQ_AUIBigB

Pic would be the best SMT wallpaper if it weren't a shitty size and didn't have those marks on them.

>>153751463
How well does that Chiitrans work for Giten Megami Tensei? I'm sure it is shit, but can you at least playthrough the game like that?

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>>153752625

What's the best route to hunt for fiends in SMTIV/Which route has it best for leveling?
Law/Neutral since the Lucifer's palace has such high leveled mobs?

>>153751463

Does Chiitrans work with emulated games too? Say, I want to play the PS1's Soul Hackers version... will it work?

>>153752625
The anon who tried it said that there were some (not serious) errors in translating, but otherwise it worked fine. So I'm going to say yes, it does work.

>>153753336
Only one way to find out

What's your current physical game collection, /smtg/

I got
>SMT4
>Soul Hackers
>DeSu2

Raidou is in my nearby thrift store going for $30 with the instruction booklet intact & the cover with slight wear.
Is it worth it

>>153754110
I forgot to add that I have SJ as well

>>153753336
It doesn't but it should be possible with other tools and some expert knowledge. When I was reading up on PC98 texthooking/machine translating I've noticed this dude was able to texthook stuff from PS1/PS2

https://twitter.com/Tyrosyn/status/544539318937980928

Don't ask me how though.

What is the consensus on Danu's portrayal in Final? Do players like her or hate her?

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This is now the Mothatron general.

>>153754110
Murickan Persona 1
Nocturne
DDS1, DDS2 (w/ Art book and poster)
Persona 3, 4, Arena, Ultimax

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>>153756694
This is an Inanna general.

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>>153754110
I also have DemiKids Dark and the rest of the Devil Survivor manga. Tokyo Mirage Sessions and Catherine as well as honorary MegaTens.

>>153754110
I have
>P3P
>P4G
>DDS1 and 2
>Nocturne (Lucifer's Call with the ugly box art)
The I have digital copies of P1 PSP, P2 Innocent Sin, SMT4, DeSu Overclocked and Soul Hackers because they were on sales and PAL copies of the 3DS games are super expensive for some reason. I plan on getting Raidou 1 and Strange Journey this year if everything's fine with money, too.

>>153754110
>>153757370
I also have Persona Q but I always forget to finish it, the Persona crime/sin and punishment in French, a figurine of Nanako, one of Teddie (I wanted a plush but I didn't find one in a con, I regret it because I found a Teddie plush in another con), a strap of Orpheus from P3, I think it was for the movie.
I should tidy up things and take a photo of all of this someday.

>>153757190
What's laying under here
I'm slightly interested

>>153754110
P4G, DeSu2 RB.

>>153754110
>>153760293
Oh and P4DAN and P4AU of course.

I need to do any quest to get neutral ending in SMT IV?

Hoy

>>153760937
You have to do quests to complete it, but you don't have to do them until you're locked into the neutral route. So if you're following a guide you're best off doing no quests because some of them can change your alignment, then just do them all after the alignment lock.

First time playing SMT IV (first actual "MegaTen" game too), should I worry about alignments or just see where things go?

>>153762502
Play it blind your first time. If anything, try being a lawfag so you can unlock the Law route only demons. Chaos and Neutral have demons you can only unlock in NG+ so it'd be a waste to play them first.

>>153762502
I personally find it much more fun to do a first playthrough making the choices you like. (Still don't know how I managed to get neutral doing that).

>>153754110
>SMT III: Lucifer's Call
>SMT IV
>SMT: SJ
>SMT DDS 1
>SMT DDS 2
>SMT DS Soul Hackers
>DeSu OC
>DeSu 2 BR
>PQ
>Persona 1 Portable
>Persona 3 Portable
>Persona 3 FES
>Persona 4
>Persona 4 Golden
>Persona 4 Arena
>Persona 4 Arena Ultimate

Hoy.

Diarahan

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>>153754110
If we include Persona stuff.

I also have SMT I but I forgot to get it out because I'm dumb.

>>153765923
Persona is the future of SMT. Of course you should include it. You played Persona BEFORE it got popular with P5 after all.

I want to say this right now before P5 comes out and everyone assumes it's just P5 being shit that makes us say this.

P4G is a good game. I liked it, still liked it, will always like it, but fuck me if I'm ever playing it again. Love the writing but what makes Fatlus think 100+ hours of just time planning can carry a game.

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>>153765923
>All my friends are dead
God dammit, you made me laugh so hard my lungs started to hurt.

Did IV Apocalypse leak yet?

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>>153754110
Desu 1 and 2
Souls Hackers
Persona Q
Strange Journey
SMT4

>>153768004
shit i forgot that i uploaded the pic with the post

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>>153767907
Probably.
The game has been out for 7 months.

>>153766325
P4 is terrible. But not as terrible as people make it out to be. Also, it does have its couple of good points.

>Love the writing
Oh sorry, you just have shit taste. I don't mind discussing the value of P4, but, if anything, the writing is terrible.

>>153757190
Where dat P2 EP at sonny?

>>153768721
Gonna import P2EPP and Devil Summoner once the translation patches for them come out. Probably in about 20 years.

Maybe after that one group is done with P2EPP, they'll take over Debisama, since that one single anon will take years to do it by himself.

https://twitter.com/GideonZhi/status/772159870032240641

It's happening.

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>>153771146
Will the absolute madman release it sometime this decade?

>>153771146
He should drop SMTIV Final and get back to If...
>>153771594
Never ever

>>153771594
almost ready for a 2011 release

>>153772903
Timetraveler detected.

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>>153754110
>collecting useless space wasters
>collecting inferior dub-only physical versions

>>153775147
Go away Otakuro.

>>153751463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwV9xMCMlbw

can't wait
Can't wait

i will kill god and win for once not end up like all the SMT main characters who got a fate worse then death

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>>153776465
Who /massacre/ here?

Anarchy ftw

>>153773097
There are people in this thread who don't know the 2011 Megami Tensei 1 meme.

>>153771743
>He should drop SMTIV Final
What the fuck is he doing with SMTIV Final? It's already being localized. Officially.

>>153777056
Why would you pick an early bad end, chaosfag? You're siding with YHVH.

>>153777539
Playing it

>>153777592
no i am killing him, demons and all other beings and taking the place of god making my own world with no monsters.

>>153777592
He means massacre.

>>153776769
>ambiguous endings that depend on the protag's strength are good in this one specific case
>But neutral endings in other games are all bad because they're ambiguous and don't solve the problem

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Hey /smtg/. Tell me something good about your least favorite mainline SMT.

>>153781945
>Strange Journey
The atmosphere and music are really good. It also has a really unique and cool setting.

>>153781945
Mitsuru is a top tier waifu and the music is pretty dang good.

>>153782770
this. P3's battle presentation was also pretty good and I'd like to see it implemented in mainline SMT (with SMT's mechanics of course)

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>>153782770
>mainline SMT

How is King Mode in Raidou 2? Is it a good step up in difficulty for my second playthough or is it just added tedium?

>>153754110

You can get it new on Amazon for the same price. It will be a reprint though if you care about that. It has a thinner, lower quality case but you could probably buy some cheap as shit PS2 sports game and swap the cover if you want a case in the original style.

>>153781945
Devil Survivor is about the only mainline SMT I've played where combat isn't a retarded slot machine with almost no actual skill involved.

Can someone tell me the decives choices to do for the most neutral-like ending in Apocalypse?

>>153783129
But then why don't you like it anon?

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>>153783473
>mfw I realized I misread the question

>>153781945
SJ has good dungeons

>>153783343
"Destroy the Cosmic Egg", that's the only choice you need to make to get the most neutral-like ending.

Is there any way to go to /pg/ without wanting to kill myself?

>>153780391
A neutral ending aren't ambiguous about the future. It is clear that another conflict will come. All that is ambiguous is what that next conflict will result in.

In the massacre ending it is ambiguous if there will even be another conflict. Either there is another conflict, in which case it isn't any different than a neutral ending, or there is no conflict in which case it is better than a neutral ending.

SMT4A Massacre >= All neutral endings

>>153781945
SMT4 made the basic parts of fusion and character building of mainline perfect.

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>>153785243
Hold your pillow tight.

>>153785243
You could go try going there and not reading anything.

>>153785703
The thing with massacre is that it essentially asks you if you trust yourself. It's a self insert ending, but not a power fantasy.

So, what would you do if you were the God of SMT's universe anon? Would you force humans to worship you? Would you give them free will?

>>153786317
I'd impregnate cute demon girls.

>>153786317
So wouldn't that make it better than a neutral ending because you could do whatever you want?

Me, I'd probably keep things peaceful and shit, but I'd spend a lot of time watching people fuck because what else am I going to do?

That is a fun question. What would you all do if you were god? Remember, all endings are canon so long as it is your ending, so if you pick massacre ending whatever you'd do is canon.

>>153766325
Do we KNOW P5 is going to be shit? I mean, compared to P3 and P4?

>>153785703
Neutralfags who circlejerk massacre but hate law are truly ridiculous. The ideological slant you have on massacre is either 1: lawful, or 2: you just don't give a fuck and its an evil ending. The game refusing to call it law because the system is based around you rather than pre existing doesn't change what happens on the actual ending. Since the ideological slants of standard law endings involve specific actions that are there whether or not you do them in a "lawful" way. Vis a vis hikawa.

Is there any way to make money past a snail's pace that doesn't require me to clear the kaplas? I'm trying to get enough money for the two physical magatamas sold by the collector merchant, but this is taking forever.

>>153786317
>self. It's a self insert ending, but not a power fantasy.

It can be a power fantasy. That's the entire point. The game doesn't tell you why you did this. Do you truly believe you can make a better world, or do you just want to be an arrogant god?

>>153786841
>I'd impregnate cute demon girls.

I don't know what I was expecting

>>153786918
>Me, I'd probably keep things peaceful and shit, but I'd spend a lot of time watching people fuck because what else am I going to do?

Could you trust yourself not to go insane though? That is the type of world YHVH wanted before he went insane (according to the interpretations of Atlus) after all.

>>153787397
>It can be a power fantasy. That's the entire point. The game doesn't tell you why you did this. Do you truly believe you can make a better world, or do you just want to be an arrogant god?

Fair point. I believe I would, by taking away humanity's hatred for itself, but also giving them the option not to believe in me, but you can never be 100% certain.

>>153780391
But neutral endings in other games are specifically based around rejecting law, which would solve all the problems forever, and actively accept a slant in which they are guaranteed to continue to some extent. There is no "true law" ending that massacre exists relative to, because the law ending is an early bad ending that is a trick. So only in massacre are you given the power to end strife within the new world forever. Standard neutral rejects the lawful aspects that massacre opens the door to (but due to you being in charge doesn't explicitly say you did next). That's why its the de facto pseduo law ending. Because the reason you would have done this (when interpreting it as a good ending) is the same reason people ordinarily take law. There's little reason to create a neutral world when you already had one. And even if you tried, you're already getting into lawful territory, since even if you have neutral slants, a neutral world that has assurance of a greater peace that you got to by genocide is standard law. Its open ended since as administrator no one forces anything on you. But if you interpret it as a good ending in any way, it makes you already sympathizing with lawful ideology, if not halfway there, since the self consistent ideological stance that allows for this is the lawful one. And if you deviate, you are getting into more self contradictory perspectives.

Couldn't the Massacre ending be considered Chaos as well if Nanashi was just some power-hungry faggot that wanted to become all-mighty and never have to answer to anyone's authority again? He could literally just let humans have their free will (like Lucifer wants), and then ignore them forever and make himself a nice demon harem or something. Even the imagery of him smirking like an asshole with a hand over his eye is Chaos as fuck.

>>153787397
>Do you truly believe you can make a better world, or do you just want to be an arrogant god?

Why not both? I mean, isn't it inherently arrogant to believe you alone can make a better world for everyone?

Mediarahan!

Alright, /smtg/, time to wake up.

What's the most fuckable cute demon girl?

>>153791423
Moh Shuvuu

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>>153791423
Obligatory

>>153791423
Jack Frost

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>>153791751
he is moe as shit I might

Does anyone know if the Apocalypse difficulty setting is playable in IVA? Or is it just a gimmick?

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>>153791751
>>153791978

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>>153791534
Hey, Anthony.

>>153789451
The problem is that that chaos curves around until it becomes law again. You already wiped out any apparent rivals. Which means that at least for yourself, you're establishing a certain order under the assumption that it will remain. Its true that chaos demons are hypocritical and so some would try that, but its hard to spin as directly chaos in any way other than that it doesn't explicitly say that that's not the world you make. But the ideological slant already present doesn't seem to lean that way.

>>153754110
Nocturne
Raidou 2 with the raihou plush
SJ
SMT IV
SMT I
Persona
Soul Hackers
PQ

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Wait, i am the only one with a copy of Maken x?

>>153787280
I'm actually a lawfag, beadman, I was just trying to argue the point that the other anon had that neutral and massacre are ambiguous in the same way, when they're not, they're ambiguous in different ways.

>>153795552
Never heard of it.

>>153792026
It is DLC, released some time after the game, just google the DLC schedule.

>>153795552
That is the dreamcast one right? I don't have either, but I doubt it is all that rare. Unlike the PS2 one which wasn't released in the states which limits a lot of people here.

>>153795694
Fucking google it, telling us that you are ignorant about it doesn't do us any good.

>>153775147
t. NEET

>>153795552
I have one, but I haven't played it yet.

>>153785243
Only drop by when there are news or big events, otherwise /v/ is somehow better as long as the OP doesn't talk about dual audio, waifus, or FFXV shitposting.

>>153795892
>Fucking google it, telling us that you are ignorant about it doesn't do us any good.
>>153795552 was asking if anyone else owns a copy of Maken x. I was simply telling him that I had never heard of it, so therefore I didn't have a copy.

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Which stats and alignment should I aim for as a first time player in Strange Journey? Which is the most fun?

>>153798726
Neutral. Don't listen to anyone else.

>>153798726
Any stat growth is viable really. Go Neutral first.

>>153798726
You don't get to pick your stats, you take a quiz at the beginning that determines what the odds are of each stat being one of the ones increased for each point you own.

If you want to play it the way it is intended, just wing it and see what you get. If you want to go down a certain path, look up a guide.

>>153799016
>>153799007
>>153798973
Thanks. I'll just wing it for the stats and go neutral. I'm starting right now!

>>153799096
Once you finish neutral, go chaos and law for comparison.

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>>153754110
apparently left my copies of P3, Strange Journey, and SMT4 at my parent's place. still haven't moved all of my stuff out of there.

>>153799446
Will do!

>>153799512
>that decarabia plush
i am jelly as fuck

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>>153799512
>owning Ronde

There's still no PSP translation of Eternal Punishment, right?

>>153799906
Release date is the same as SMT If...: 20XX if lucky.

>>153799842
love this dude. fucker cost $50 to ship to America tho - thought 2000 yen on YHJ was too good to be true.

>>153799887
why wouldn't you want to own Ronde, anon? I can't stand playing it but I couldn't find disc 2 online or a scan of the manual, so I bit the bullet and spent $8 to do it myself

>>153799906
nope, wouldn't get your hopes up for it either. I know one group is working on it but they don't have the best track record for finishing shit.

>>153799512
yo my decabro!

still waiting for Vol 2

Golem Masakado is a pain in the ass. The dickhead keeps spamming heaven's bow.

>>153754110
P4G
DeSu2
TMS#FE
Catherine

Rest are digital.

>>153803420
You are supposed to have all the dlcs.

>>153803420
Welcome to the world of SMT. Where everything that isn't RNG is spam x skill to win/lose.

>>153799512

How much did that Giten cost?

>>153786841
I would make Inanna my megami and breed new humanity with her.

>>153804785
$100. actually lowest price I've ever seen for it - windows version especially tends to run a bit pricier.

>>153781945
SMTI had a lot of cool moments where the overworld changed.

>>153781945
The Fear of God is a sick fucking battle theme.

I need to get back to Strange Journey but it didn't grab me much for some reason, and barring this track I'm not that fond of the OST

>>153804650
>>153804692
I guess my problem I built Sanat without covering his weakness. I'm trying to do a Kannuki Throw with Sanat combo.

>>153753143
nothing drops more XP than quests, because they don't go by XP amounts, they go by fractions of levels. a quest might give 1/10th a level up, or 1/2 a level up, irregardless of how much XP that actually is
one of the tutorial quests at the beggining of the game gives a full level up, as do alot of story quests
it doesn't matter what route you do, just quest grab

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Megami Ibunroku Persona anime adaptation when?

>>153808937
The manga was great. No need for A-1 to ruin it.

>>153808937
>those yaoi proportions

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>>153809207

>>153809207
I take it you don't know what shoujo is?

Persona x Code Geass

are there any SMT action games?

>>153808937
When we finally die and reach paradise.

>>153810330
Raidou.

>>153810332
>oh its you again
>macca opens all doors

>>153810330
Maken X

>>153810753
>implying Maken X is part of the MegaTen franchise

>>153811261
IT IS
I BOUGHT A COPY SO IT IS
REEE

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>>153811334
Not everything Kaneko touches is MegaTen related anon. Let the man branch out a little.

>>153811685
>kaneko gender bended himself to make nemissa
really makes you think

Who else thinks that Kaneko should go back to being the main artist of Atlus?

>>153812642
I'm pretty sure he is still the main artist of Atlus. He's just been letting others have a crack at designing demons, but he's still in the driver's seat.

>>153812929
>I'm pretty sure he is still the main artist of Atlus. He's just been letting others have a crack at designing demons
Even if that's true, that's exactly why I want him to come back. The demon designs we have now are extremely spotty and inconsistent. Sure there are good and even great demon designs, but there are also some really shitty ones too. Whereas with Kaneko, there aren't really any designs from him that are particularly displeasing to the eyes.

>>153813664
Doi is perfectly fine.

>>153814356
Let me put it this way: would you rather have Filet Mignon or a Turkey?

Not trying to shit on Doi or anything, but I just prefer Kaneko. Also that food analogy took me way longer than it should've.

>>153814824
i never tasted any

>>153814864
And this is why I hate to use food analogies.
What I'm trying to say is that Kaneko is God tier, whereas Doi is Good or Meh tier.

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>>153814824
>Let me put it this way: would you rather have Filet Mignon or a Turkey?

>>153816161
THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS
REEEEEEEEE

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>decided to replay DDS
>still comfy and enthralling as ever
>only first game is undubbed and apparently even this undub is freezing at certain point
>dub is P-tier garbage with localization gags added here and there

Fucking gay earth, I swear.

You guys watch the Daybreakers OVA ?

I'm actually curious how SMT4 would play with a less awful plot or combat. That's the only reason I'm excited for 4A

>>153818138
Daybreakers? What's that?

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>>153818138
Its garbage now get out.

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>IVF writer - Yusuke Miyata
>Game Credits: Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes (In-game Script Planning)
Should I expect vagina bombs or what?

>>153804367
leave.

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>>153818708
>tfw I'm going to buy this DLC because I have the autistic need to see all the content in this game
SEND HELP

>>153818927
>not being excited for SMT waifu swimsuit DLC

>>153818708
what is this face trying to convery

>>153818927
Accept your fate senpai.
>>153818968
The pleasure of being cummed inside.

>>153818927
>buying anything Atlus USA
Just pirate this shit

>>153818708
SMT x Metal Gear Solid

Just think about it

>>153819051
nah fuck you you are not even my real mom

>>153819051
Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry™ Series

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>>153819051
OUMA GATSU?

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>>153819016
>Pirating niche games

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>>153819323
>eating dub-only censored shit

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>>153819459
>Assuming every game is censored
Fucking God himself is in this game, you can't get more offensive than that.

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>>153819616
>Fucking God himself is in this game
Along with the memes

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>>153819707

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>>153819051
Yeah man. SMT x MGS is would be another great persona idol game.

>>153818048
>DDS dub
>Garbage

>>153819016
when it comes to dlc, im honestly with this dude

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So I'm playing Digital Devil Monogatari for Famicom but I have the following bug??

I'm at the last boss now, Lucifer I think it is supposed to be, but for some reason he just doesn't appear. I walk up to the tile where he should be, but, nope. Nothing.

Now I was wondering - does anyone have a password? I don't know how to fix this bug and I don't want to drop the game being this close to the boss just because it doesn't work for whatever reason.

Or any other ideas on what I could do?

>>153778040
Chaosfags aren't going to trick anyone into thinking they didn't get btfo by referring to massacre as anarchy. There's nothing anarchy about it.

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come alive

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Never played Personas, never played JRPGs (yes, really). So I tried P4 on Vita, set it to Hard. Took me few tries to beat Yukiko boss, but that fucking oversized king doll faggot that one shots each of my characters and then one shots entire party is total bullshit, do I have to grind floors 1-7 many times over and over and over to beat him or something?

>>153825053
You mean the one you find at Yukiko's boss area after you beat Yukiko? I believe they are meant to be faced later on in the game. Not much later though, just a dungeon ahead.

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>>153791423

>>153825053
>that fucking oversized king doll
You really shouldn't bother with grinding to be that boss. Just move on to the next dungeon and when you finish it come back

>>153825053
Maybe don't play on hard your first time.

Just be glad you're not playing the PS2 version. P4 Gold nerfed shadow yukkiko. If you're having trouble then level up, or fuse a better Persona. That's just how it is.

you could always just git gud tho

>>153825664
>P4 Gold nerfed shadow yukkiko
>Nerfing a easy boss
I never understood the complains about Shadow Yukiko. Fuck, just fuse and choose your skills wisely.

>>153825053
You're not supposed to do that right now you retard. He's just an optional boss. Go progress the days until you unlock the next dungeon since you saved yukkiko.

>>153822120
No one?

>>153825806
>I can't mindlessly attack, and heal.
2HARD PLS NERF

>>153825053
>returning to the shadow world except on days you absolutely must
nigger your social dance card is so full there is no fucking reason to waste time with the shadow world when you could be making friends.

>>153826017
It's an SMT game bro, the only strategy beyond mindlessly attack weaknesses and heal is "buff and debuff." Don't kid yourself.

>>153826048
Yeah, doesn't P4 gold have more social/story content as well?

>>153825053
Senpai what are you doing? Go enjoy that animu storee

>>153825053
>never played a JRPG
Oh man. P4 is a weird place to start. It's not a JRPG so much as a social time management game with a small garnish of JRPG on the side.

>>153826193
P4G has two additional months, about a month and a half worth of days, but also two new social links and a bunch more festivals/events through the main season, so I think it evens out to about the same amount of stress against the actions you have.

There's no way in hell I'm autistic enough to play P4 AND P4G over and over to count the actions each game gives you against the amount of actions you need to max everyone (And then count all the events you'd be skipping like different night time conversations with everyone relative to the plot...) to give you an authoritative answer as to which game is nicer or meaner on action count vs obligations.

And to be honest I'd look askance at anyone claiming to know that for sure. That'd be some serious tism.

Are we all just ignoring that in apocalypse lucifer's chair is treated like part of his body?

>>153826446
Yes.

>>153822120
No one got a password for the final boss battle?

Wow white Rider is such a nigger. I do a bunch of shit, and port back to asakusa because I'd rather wait to save until after I heal everyone at the fountain. Nah it's white Rider time no escape.

Fuck me

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>>153826446
Maybe it's just me, but I love fighting bosses sitting in chairs or thrones. Gives them an air of
>lel I ain't getting up from here because of a shitter like you

Anyone have the smirk template? I was retarded and didn't save it.

>>153821945
Reported for avatarfagging, dumb Personababy.

>>153819259
& Knuckles

>>153819707
Is that a snowboard kids referece?

>>153831000
>tfw you will never eat Jack-O Frost flakes with Vishnu

Wake up. It's time to praise the Lord.

>>153813664
>>153814356
>>153814824

I like Doi but I do miss Kaneko's style. It's just so unique. People say how his people look like vampires or some shit but that really stopped being the case. Recently played through Raidou 2 and all those characters look great.

>>153819016
underage posters need to leave

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>>153835835

>>153819016
I hate Atlus but that doesn't stop me from buying the games and build a colection of my favorite series. I just wait it out and buy it after a pricedrop.

>>153822024
I agree with this fine gentleman though. Fuck DLC.

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>>153837949
What are you waiting for then? Leave at once.

>>153828446
Sorry man, guess not. If you're at the last boss and you were to get someone's save/password you wouldn't have to do anything to beat him. So just pull it up on youtube or something.

IVA gonna flop worse than #FE screencap.

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So after I and II being for OT, and III and IV being for NT, do you lads think they will touch upon the Gnostic Gospels for V?

I can clearly see the Great Will being Monad.
What was there in the series Abraxas, Demiurge/Yaldabaoth and Sophia NPC aside? Topic needs more representation.

Do you expect Atlus to announce SMTV within 2- years? How would you feel if they do it in 2017 but the game won't be out until 2019?

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>people in this thread aren't going to pay for fan service DLC with the old protagonists

Ingrates

>>153842719
>there is somebody on this planet who is autistic enough to actually put up this shit picture

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>>153791423
This cutie.

>>153842786
I refuse to buy any DLC on the 3DS. Fuck, I refuse to buy anything digital on the 3DS.

>>153844417
I refuse to buy 3DS.

>>153844417
Just the 3DS? I can understand not wanting to buy DLC (though I still buy DLC if it is good), why just the 3DS? Would you buy console or PC DLC?

>>153845747
I refuse to buy anything

>>153844417
>>153845747
>>153845837
I refuse, I refuse, I refuse!

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>>153842492
What sales would make it a flop?

Consume

>Agree with Waleter at every given opportunity except not killing Lilith because of Double Quest Exp
>Get Law path

Literally the one ending I didn't care for what the hell

>>153849529
Did you do relic delivery sidequests? Those give you law points.

>>153849627
Not him, but, you serious?

That explains why i had trouble going Chaos on my last playthrough.

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>>153844417
Then get to work on A9LH'ing that 3DS.

>>153849752
Yeah it's pretty dumb, I ended up super lawfag on my first playthrough before I realized.

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>>153849529
You can't escape it.
God needs you.

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>>153849753
>tfw ripped my physical SMTIV and installed it
>tfw going to trade it in

>>153849529
May as well do all the quests that unlock Law path only demons, like Mastema.

>>153849627
What
It's literally changing the kingdom by introducing taboo technology
How is that not Chaos

They could at least've given it some dialogue that implies it gives law points like the Colosseum match results

>>153850995
>They could at least've given it some dialogue that implies it gives law points like the Colosseum match results

That isn't a bad idea. Have Walter say something like "I don't think we should do what Hugo wants. I'm not going to be doing any of those quests." and then Jonathan says that he'll try to do as much as he can because it is his duty as a Samurai. Isabeau is unsure of what to do.

So now the player knows that the simple choice of whether or not to do the quests affects alignment.

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>>153850458
>Playing SMT IV in the first place

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>>153845747
Then buy a 2DS.

>>153852858
this picture scares me.

>>153852968
>Not wanting to fuck a mannequin

>>153852968
It's old.
The usual caption says something like
"Smell Deez nuts" or someshit.

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>>153853146
>Forgetting pic related

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>>153853146

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>>153853464

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>>153852858
Fuck off, I play what I want.

>>153853746
NO. YOU ONLY PLAY OFFICIALLY /smtg/ SANCTIONED GAMES.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>153854012
Make me, nerd.

>>153854328
Phoenix AMC Movie theatre, high noon, you wear a blue shirt, I'll wear a white shirt.

>>153854328
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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i pre ordered already and there is nothing that you can do to stop me

>>153854949
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST FUCKING SAY ABOUT ME YOU LITTLE BITCH? I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW I REACHED THE LEVEL CAP IN THE CONCEPTION. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SECRET RAIDS IN THE LABYRINTH OF AMALA, AND I HAVE OVER 300 CONFIRMED DEMON FUSIONS. I AM TRAINED IN GORILLA WARFARE AND I'M THE TOP GENERAL IN THE ENTIRE ARMY OF LUCIFER. YOU ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT JUST ANOTHER RANDOM ENCOUNTER AND I'LL WIPE YOU OFF THE FACE OF THIS UNIVERSE WITH THE LIKES OF PRECISION THAT'S NEVER BEEN SEEN, MARK MY FUCKING WORDS YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD GET AWAY WITH SAYING THAT SHIT ABOUT ME ONLINE? THINK AGAIN AS WE SPEAK I'M CONTACTING MY NETWORK OF SPIES ALL AROUND THE DEMON WORLD AND YOUR IP'S BEING TRACED RIGHT NOW SO YOU BETTER PREPARE FOR THE STORM MAGGOT. THE STORM THAT WIPES OUT THAT PATHETIC THING YOU CALL A PARTY. YOU'RE FUCKING DEAD, HUMAN. I CAN BE ANYWHERE, ANYTIME, AND I CAN KILL YOU IN OVER 700 DIFFERENT WAYS, AND THAT'S ALL WITHOUT CONSUMING ANY SP NOT ONLY AM I EXTENSIVELY TRAINED IN PSYCHICAL ABILITIES, I ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE MAGIC OF LUCIFER'S ARMY AND I WILL USE IT'S FULLEST EXTENT TO WIPE YOUR MISERABLE ASS OFF THE FACE OF THIS SERVER, YOU LITTLE SHIT IF ONLY YOU COULD HAVE KNOWN WHAT UNHOLY RETRIBUTION YOUR LITTLE "CLEVER" COMMENT WAS ABOUT TO BRING DOWN UPON YOU, MAYBE YOU WOULD'VE HELD YOUR FUCKING TOUNGE BUT YOU COULDN'T, YOU DIDN'T AND NOW YOU'RE PAYING THE PRICE YOU GODDAMN IDIOT. I WILL SHIT FURY ALL OVER YOU AND YOU WILL DROWN IN IT. YOU'RE FUCKING DEAD. DEATH IS NOT A HUNTER UNBEKNOWNST TO IT'S PREY, BITCH

>>153855113
Is that the fusion of Raidou and M. Bison?

>>153855474
I don’t give a fuck who you are or where you live. You can count on me to be there to bring your fucking life to a hellish end. I’ll put you in so much fucking pain that it’ll make Jesus being nailed to a cross in the desert look like a fucking back massage on a tropical island. I don’t give a fuck how many reps you have or how tough you are IRL, how well you can fight, or how many fucking guns you own to protect yourself. I’ll fucking show up at your house when you aren’t home. I’ll turn all the lights on in your house, leave all the water running, open your fridge door and not close it, and turn your gas stove burners on and let them waste gas. You’re going to start stressing the fuck out, your blood pressure will triple, and you’ll have a fucking heart attack. You’ll go to the hospital for a heart operation, and the last thing you’ll see when you’re being put under in the operating room is me hovering above you, dressed like a doctor. When you wake up after being operated on, wondering what ticking time bomb is in your chest waiting to go off. You’ll recover fully from your heart surgery. And when you walk out the front door of the hospital to go home I’ll run you over with my fucking car out of no where and kill you. I just want you to know how easily I could fucking destroy your pathetic excuse of a life, but how I’d rather go to a great fuckng length to make sure your last remaining days are spent in a living, breathing fucking hell. It’s too late to save yourself, but don’t bother committing suicide either… I’ll fucking resuscitate you and kill you again myself you bitch-faced phaggot. Welcome to hell, population: you.

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>>153857378
>GUMP
>not a COMP

Failure as a human!

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>>153857378
>Why don't you own a GUMP
Because I don't live in grorious Nippon.

>>153857482
>COMP
>not getting the gun reference

Speaking of COMPs and GUMPs, what is your favorite way to summon demons?

post more

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>>153859769
Arm mounted COMP or a cybernetic arm with COMP installed.

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>>153859923
Cybernetic COMP is the best. Demonica is 2nd best. Arm mounted COMP is the 3rd best. GUMP is the 4th best. Demon Tubes is the 5th best. The COMPs in DeSu are the worst.

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>>153859769
Arm COMP or Gauntlet. GUMP is also pretty cool, although looks uncomfortable as fuck to use.
Smatphonefags should hang themselves.

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>>153845781
>Just the 3DS?
Yes. The whole system Nintendo has on it doesn't really looks trustworthy.

>Would you buy console or PC DLC?
Nope. Honestly, I only bought 3 DLCs in my life: Kurisu for Phantom Breaker Battlegrounds, Naraku and Kagura characters dor SKEV and a couple of quest packs for Folklore.

>>153849753
I'm only gonna hack my 3DS when I finish my 3DS backlog/purchases. Maybe it's just me, but the moment I hack a console or portable I feel fucking overwhelmed with the amount of games I can or want to play that I lose interest in said system.

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>>153861117
The only reason I like smartphones is because it gives me hope for SMT Go.

>>153861721
>tfw mara appears when you're jacking off

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>>153861952

>>153861721
Let's be honest here; we won't get a SMT Go ever. Even Pokémon Go is slowly fading into oblivion.

Maybe I'm just oldschool but I'm tired of touchscreens. I miss the satisfaction of pressing the buttons.

>>153862159
>We won't get an SMT Go ever
DELET THIS
>>Maybe I'm just oldschool but I'm tired of touchscreens. I miss the satisfaction of pressing the buttons.
>Implying that our 3ds's wont be hacked as we enter a worldwide lockdown for seven days.

>>153862626
>worldwide lockdown
Wouldn't that be just like now? I don't see very many people traveling to space on a daily basis.

>>153862859
It would mean that intercontinental trade would cease and all borders would be closed until further notice.

>>153862859
Good point. Maybe he just means it would keep people from travelling to other areas. Each country would be locked down maybe to try to keep other's and their problems out? Though if the whole world has demons, who gives a shit any more? We're all fucked.

Also, >>153862626 I feel like with how the modern world works we're more likely to get a phone app than have our 3DS hacked. If some Stephen like guy wanted to get his demon summoning program into as many hands as possible, he would probably make it a phone app. To be specific an android app since that is the most used and it wouldn't be as hard to get it into the app store.

Unless the person who made the program wants it to not be used too much, like if whoever made it only wanted certain people to have it. Then they'd probably use some weird hardware like a 3DS or something. But if that is the case, you're probably not getting one for yourself.

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>>153863552
>But if that is the case, you're probably not getting one for yourself.
FUCK YOU IM BEEN LONG TIME FAN OF TSIH SREUIS SO IM GETTING ONE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>153863552
>But if that is the case, you're probably not getting one for yourself.
I still have hope.

>>153864646
>rumors
>not rumours

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>>153865379
I like you, british anon but American english is the correct way to write.

>>153861117
>in the middle of fighting demons
>one of them pierces my chest, but I manage to survive the hit
>with the last inch of my strenght I try to summon a demon to heal me
>notice that my hands are smeared with blood
>the smartphone doesn't register my commands
>die

THANKS STEPHEN

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Customizable COMPs in a numbered SMT when?

>>153866626
Never, not unless they pull a Final Fantasy and let mainline numbered SMT games be MMOs. What point does customizing your COMP have if no one can see it?

Why do people say Raidou 2's story isn't as good as the first? The Law and Chaos stuff is a bit shoehorned in but aside from that it was pretty good.

>>153866885
SMT Private server when?

>>153866626
>COMP's design changes based on your alignment at the alignment lock
That would be pretty sweet.

>>153787280
Or maybe that is your opinion because people have to force their shitty views of alignments down everyones throats and say a route is this alignment because fuck you.

People did it with Nocturne when they are canonically all chaos, people did it with DeSu2 despite it not following the inferior human concepts but the ones dictated by alien Star Gods aka the actual important Beings in that setting,

And how Apocalypse has Dark/Light Neutral points earned through choices.

I hate Law and I will be going Massacre.

>>153866885
What point does customizing your character have if you play a single player game?
People like playing dress up.

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>>153863552
Nyarly giving everyone free DS Apps to download on all devices.

>>153866626
>there will never be a good online megaten game

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How's /smtg/ doing today, tomorrow is Labor Day so I'm sure we'll get more traffic

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>>153871058
People are too busy slaving away for YHVH

>>153868468
>People did it with Nocturne when they are canonically all chaos

What? They're deliberately ambiguous on if they're chaos or law. By choosing a reason you're doing a lawful thing even if the end result of the reason is chaos.

>I hate Law and I will be going Massacre.

You're an idiot and don't understand alignment.

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>>153871058
Labor Day is 1st of May though.

>>153871058
Why would we get more traffic on Labor Day? It is already the weekend, I doubt that many people here have work or classes today, so why would it be any different tomorrow?

>>153861721
>>153862159
You mean Persona Go

>>153874651
There is an interview with Kaneko where he outright says they are chaos.

There is a lot of stuff in interviews and guides not mentioned in the games themselves. Like him mentioning Kagutsuchi as the Japanese version if YHVH thus Kagutauchi's role in Nocturne.

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>>153874923
Persona is the future of SMT

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>>153874923
I wouldn't mind it if they actually acknowledged P1 and P2.

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>>153874651
The reasons and the concept of the Conception is Law born from Chaos. The Chaotic Reasons will become the Law of the new world just as the world is eventually destroyed (chaos) to repeat the cycle.

>Asian roommate walks in room
>kicks my 3DS with devil survivor inside right out of my hand and into the wall while dancing
wtf. I hate devil survivor now

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>>153876501
EVERY THREAD
V
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>>153876501
Fucking again?

>>153876501
Is it the one with Eastern Descent

>>153874651
No i understand alignments plenty but people who think they know better try to insist orherwise. Just like I argued about plenty of shit in IV like the Archangels helped build the kingdom with Akira including the caste system and that Merkabah was killing Flynn for being descended feom filth long before Apocalypse or the release of the artbook.

>>153819707
And you moving the goalposts.

>>153876501
How do we stop this meme?

>>153878214
You ignore it.

>>153878214
You don't.

Recarmdra!

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Don't die on me!

Any decent resources out there on Apocalypse? I use the japanese wikis for EO, is there a similar one for SMT?

>>153883280
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Megami_Tensei_Wiki

Anyone else want a SMT game where no matter the ending it's kind of bittersweet? Apocalypse looks pretty good but I'm sick of this 'good ending and bad endings' bullshit. I'm sick of law and chaos constantly getting the short end of the stick.

>>153884998
I want the reverse. All the endings would fuck over humanity one way or the other. It would merely be a matter of picking your poison.

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>8 days before spoilers
How are holdin' up bros?

>>153885506
Ready to get spoiled, I'm not getting of the internet for 6 fucking months.

>>153885506
The final boss is Adam

>>153885506
I hope the spoilers are contained to /pg/, because I'm not leaving here.

>>153885958
You know those cucks are going to spam us too

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>>153883280
Really wish I could get the strategy guide but I will barely have money to gwt SMTIVA.

>Good old days when Nips would post stats online.

>>153885734
>>153885958

>>153885506
I expect to get spoiled sooner or later.
It will probably be like the new Star Wars movie and people will post spoilers even in unrelated threads just because they can.

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>>153885506
Holdin' perfect bro. After all I am the one who will spoil this shit all over internet and boards non-stop for 6 months.

>>153886265
Why is it always assholes that are fans of SMTxFE?

End yourself and I hope Charon doesn't let you come back.

>>153885506
>8 days before spoilers
Ha i know the endings and everything and still plan to get the game cause i get to kill god.

>>153886416
ADAM IS THE FINAL BOSS

>>153886416
It's almost like people use a divisive game to rack up the (you)s

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>>153886416
Because I want you homocucks to suffer for no particular reason. I also the one who destroyed every possible Final discussion on /v/ just because, sue me.

>>153886576
Adam who? Like Revolver Ocelot?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7FduDXerD4
opps

>>153886673
The first man.

>>153886576
Who the fuck is Adam?
Who is the traitor?

>>153886649
How bad was 4A talk on /v/?

I mean SMT4 was shit so I can imagine people getting mad at 4A but still...

>>153886649
Wow you sure are badass dude.

>>153886708
Lame.

>>153886762
>Who the fuck is Adam?
Who the fuck else could it refer to? It's the first man.
>Who is the traitor?
Dunno.

>>153886883
Why is Adam the final boss? He pissy nips think they're the best race?

>>153886782
>How bad was 4A talk on /v/?
Its dead. Every thread is derailed into censorship posting.