Alicesoft/Rance General

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Sorry about last thread. I was feeling pretty sick and went to sleep at my usual bumping time.

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Wow, you guys took your time today. First for best slave.

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>>153615098
Wrong pic.

I don't know about you guys, but I actually did not mind waiting for Rance VI to get an official release. I'm super psyched for when it comes out on mangagamer.

>>153616130
I had already given up hope, so technically it didn't even count as waiting anymore.

>>153617034
I have more hope than ever now.

http://blog.alicesoft.com/archives/4677516.html
The third game of the beat series is currently in the middle of Alicesoft in house checking (no idea at which point that is from the process). It will be more like Haruka than Escalayer R. And have the usual of the series "Have sex for the sake of winning, and also get sex if you lose"

>>153618486
Legitimately looking forward to it

>>153618486
They did magical girls, magical ninjas, what's next? Robo-girls?

I am curious though, Haruka was the fappiest nukige of it's time, would this third Beat game succeed it at this title?

How did Daibanchou get voice acting and the majority of rance games that came after it get none. I dont get it.

>>153619631
They just didn't want to.

>>153618486
Well that was on the cards since the start of 2015

No X this year then

>>153615098
Weird looking Feliss

>>153619631
Because Rance games started with no voice-acting, didn't have voice-acting for so long that the team just decided not to add them in because everyone have their own version of how the characters sound like by that point.

Then 03 came along and they were like "Screw that idea, it's just a remake.".

>>153619631
It's not just Daibanchou. Every game from a certain point were voiced. The Rance series was Alicesoft exception.

>>153619856
>とは言え、正式な発表はまだまだまだまだ先なのでのんびりとお待ちをー(・ω・)ノ
Beat something something 3 probably isn't this year either.

>>153620000
Actually it went like this:

The remake team wanted to add voices. The 01 anime came and people had positive reactions to the voices, which helped the remake team to convince to add voices.

So next weekend (we'll make it the 10th of September) is Draw a Zeth day.

We'll make it a regular member of Zeth who is associated with the country in game so Gandhi/Magic/Generals/Four Lords, Uzra, Rizna, Emi etc.
>>153619631
Rance has a fuck load of characters and is older and still sold without it out.

>>153620000
It was the younger guys who convinced TADA plus they wanted to start getting fans back to Alicesoft.
And once the OVA was there a major objection was gone.

X still will be too big for it.

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>>153616130
It was never the delay which got people down.

>>153619394
Beat Blades Replica

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just posting best man

>>153622913
barres is such a bro. loved him in III and kichikuou

>>153622913
Has a hot daughter as well.

Pity Rance won't make Barres some grandkids in canon

>>153619394
Robo girls would be great. Maybe ninja girls again since it's more like Haruka. Or monster girls since they're the in-thing right now.

>>153624810
Ex and Hauren might appear in Rance X...

>>153626051
Hauren won't. At least beyond a cameo.

The whole referencing her in 01 and 03 seems like a "she still exists but won't appear" thing

What happens to a Demon King after they die? Soul Cleansing too?

>>153626669
I meant a Demon King's soul there. I know they become a pool of blood.

>>153626669
Not sure.

I'm still hoping for a boss rush in X

>>153626051
More like Haruka might be more mechanics-wise. There's also mecha musume like how some of the Blade Briders were.

>>153626669
We don't know.

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>>153626809
>>153626876
I just had a thought, if the current Demon King is killed and someone else becomes the Demon King, then Wenlina revives the previous Demon King, I wonder if the one who died would be normal or there'd be two DKs at the same time.

>>153620671
>X still will be too big for it.
Is this confirmed?

>Cries to myself

We'll never get Atlach-Nacha localized. No spider demon lesbian rapist for us....

>>153628261
Yes. TADA said that they could at most use system voices like battles and such.

>>153628261
Yes and its logical as well. Voices cost too much

anyone want to make webms of kichikuou rance events?

>>153628261
I believed they confirmed no 3D as well, or maybe just Rance IX level of 3D.

>>153628354
If Mangagamer wants to get into the Android market, they could localize that. Extremely unlikely, but still.
Also, it's sorta qualifies as yuri. About as yuri as Medusa, but eh.

>>153629440
It's 2D, yeah. Apparently making 3D models for the sheer number of characters that'll be on X is too much for Alicesoft, understandably.

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>>153629321
If you want to go ahread

>>153629560
Sprites are better anyway

>>153630142
never gets old

>>153630142

I fucking love this scene, this is when I knew kichikuou rance was going to be great.

>>153630643
>Not at the fantastically animated OP

>>153615028
What is your dream game in the Alicesoft universe?

Personally I'd like an action game where you play as the Hero during the RedEye Dark, and the final mission is Operation Bomb the Maazel Line.

>>153630816
I still think the jumping portraits were charming as shit.

What was the name of the artist who did Toushin Toshi 3 again? He did the Gal Monsters in Rance VI as well, he has a very distinct style.

>>153631758
MIN-NARAKEN

>>153631758
Probably Min-Naraken. He did Blade Briders as well, so if it matches, he's probably the one.

>>153631957
>>153631980
Ah yeah, I knew it started with an M. Thanks.

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>>153632021
He did the art for Oyako Rankan too, as well as Evenicle's galmonsters.
Also draws some cool giant robots.

>>153630142
best scene in the game honestly, though there's tons of good ones. The part where he cures that one green people village and the introduction of Gengorou were amazing moments for me as well.

I want a rape baby with Pastel

Caesar is best girl

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>>153629321
>>153630142
Just use https://cloudconvert.com/gif-to-webm to convert gifs to webm.

Here's the speech in webm format

Was it nameshit or lack of nameshit that killed the thread?

>>153641737
silly anon, don't you know that nameshit is guaranteed replies?

Is it fine to just fire Kanami in SR, or are there some events I should get with her before kicking her to the curb

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>>153642817
you know what to do

>>153642531
But does it kill the threads afterwards is the question.

>>153643058
nameshit might get replies but they shit up the place so bad. I can't count how many generals I've just stopped going to because of meta drama

>>153642817
Sex scenes and then battle permit

>>153643058
To some degree, but I think the biggest problem is just that we don't have anything to talk about (at least, without going into spoilers) until 5D and VI release.

>>153630816
Not that guy.

I loved the prologue sequence. It really got me pumped up. Got me expecting this to be a good game and all.
But it was his speech that sealed the deal.

>>153624810
Well, he could get his adopted daughter pregnant,it would count as his grandchildren.

We are in September now. It's been two years since X was announced on that blogpost and we still have nothing. Is TADA alive?

>>153643663
Clearly dead

>>153628261
TADA words were "at this point in the project, we aren't planning to have the ADV parts of X voiced. I'm thinking about having voices for the gameplay parts though". From a post on 05/28/2015.

http://blog.alicesoft.com/archives/4401161.html

You'd think something would be released by now, if they actually released stuff we might have something to talk about.

>>153644114
or just wait for some anon to come up with a topic to talk about

Is AS aware of the existence of this rapeclub of ours?

>>153644415
Why would they be aware of us? They never cared all that much about whatever western fabase exists.

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Rance backs off from demanding sex as his quest reward??

>>153645405
Doesn't he a second latter admits that he's going to use the gratitude from saving the town to coerce Cith into sex or she would throw herself at him due to said gratitude?

>>153645582
Yeah you remember it exactly.

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ludooo

>>153626809

Ssulal will rise again and coat the continent in her reign of vague mediocrity.

>>153645405
Kai patch?

>>153643370
This

>>153644415

No, it's secret.

>>153645932
Bet it was Planner. Seems like the kinda thing he would do.

>>153647652
Give Milly Level 4 luck?

>>153644415
In so much they were aware of the fan translations.

>>153644415
If Kamilla or Maris have routes in X or Maris is actually the evil Goddess MALICE then yes

>>153649346
>evil Goddess MALICE

Why does she get such an evil rep anyway?

>>153649620
Kichikuou Rance

Stops you attacking the demons

>>153649620
The meme came from KR where she doesn't allow you to attack the Monster Realm until Kayblis wins the war. While it might happen while you were conquering other nations, it becomes especially egregious when she didn't allow you after you conquered everything else.

It then looked like she was delaying you from interfering with Kayblis, and thus Apostle MALICE was born. Goddess MALICE was just an inflation from that.

Does the +100 damage from equipping Ryuuguu Sword Urashimaru effect AOE attacks like Diviners?

>>153649815
Plus the whole Alice in japanese is Arisu and Maris in Japanese is Marisu and there is a Goddess ALICE and MALICE is just a perfect sort of name

>>153650092
And Marisu is also exacly how the Japanese write malice. It wouldn't be surprising if that's why they chose her name back on Rance I, considering on that game she is passing as an friend and ally but is actually an enemy.

>>153643663
He's a blood soul right now. They just have to find a cute glasses girl to stick him into.

>>153650379
Well yeah Marisu is exactly how they write Malice.

Doubt that is why she got her name

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>>153652759

>>153650028

I imagine it would, only one way to find out.

I'll get Chapter 7 of the Rance IX pastebin up tomorrow

>>153658252
Great news. Thanks anon.

If you pick the Houjou Family bonus, does that mean that the oil field dungeon is unlocked straight away to get Sounn? I notice that he's not one of the people you get straight away according to the wiki

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>>153620952
She's the one that killed Rune, right? Is it probable that her role in 04 is going to get expanded in light of this? Was it mentioned in the original IV?

>>153643813
Partial voice is the best option anyway. It gives people enough of an impression to have an idea what the characters sound like while still leaving the delivery of most scenes to the player's imagination. See: Planescape: Torment

>>153663223
I don't recall that being mentioned in IV.

And yes I hope she and Dio and even Borg get more attention.

There isn't a whole lot to really expand on in terms of new characters there so the Toushos would be great

>>153663223
>>153663380
I think Menad will be in the rescue party and her story with Rance will be completed.
May as well develop some of the other characters in IV that you can.

Also Rick and Rance friendship

>>153660756
that's terrible, who would want to lewd cute and innocent Alice...

I don't suppose you have an uncensored version?

>>153664354
http://haniho.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2566

I should really start dumping my collection again

>>153663223
I understood what you meant, but when people say it's partially voiced, it means part of the ADV scenes are voiced, but not all. And not when just the gameplay parts are voiced.

Anons: the last game I actually played is Sengoku Rance.

This is the point where you tell me that theres like half a dozen new games that I was unaware of and that my dick is in heaven

>>153666268
Go play Kichikuou Rance and read a summary of Rance 1-4 if you can't stand to play them before KR?

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>>153666268

KANAMI

>>153666268
01,02,03. And IV. 5d and VI will be out in english soon-ish. Play kichikuou, it's the best. Or at least I heard it's the best, me myself is too weak to go past few first battles and country-wide economy/diplomacy.

Page 10 real quick this time.

>>153615028
Shizuka is hot.

>>153671665
Always

this is the 5th time i'm playing KR and I got my ass handed to me by Helman
>ignore Freya because of Sieg/Gengorou/levy Path events
> lose track of what city she's in
>event happens
>lose all my money
> 2 consecutive attacks on Leazas Castle by Sieg and Siezel
what a great game

>>153666268
Well the next Trails game comes out next week, oh and i guess there is the new Phoenix Right(is that out yet?) and i still haven't even started Zero Time Dilemma god dammit!

Oh you mean Rance? Well probably around December

This is probably the closest i ever got to creating a backlog

>>153671959
You just suck.

>>153666268
Try Daibanchou

>>153672032
Phoenix is 8th.

>>153671959
>Hasn't dealt with Sieg yet

>>153672053
did i say i got a game over anon?

>>153672449
i had to recruit Ghandi and i had to rescue soul so i went against helman pretty early
not to mention the month wasted in shangri-la and i released Housenurse

>>153673237
I really don't get how you struggle this much. I only had a bit of a hard time on my first playthrough when I was still learning the mechanics, and even then it wasn't that bad.

>>153671959
I got hit with Freya in my first playthrough too. Didn't hurt as much as I thought it would.

oh boi

>>153676019
Stay alive for my IX blogging at least

>>153664354
>cute and innocent
>reads rape stories

>>153677551
Masturbates too them

Well last bump from me before bed

>>153679218
When did that ever happen?

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ELENA

KANAMI
I wonder if Rance X is going to encompass 2 years

>>153683572
It'd be interesting to see Rance's response to his new kids.

There is no way to save Hornet is there

>>153685401
There's plenty of ways to do so, if they will happen or not is another matter

>>153685401
Not in Kichikuou

if they made an animation for KR, would you have it 90's style or modern style

is anybody translating rance quest or rance IX right now? I dunno what happened to 2.0 translations.

>>153685401
Demon King end

Kill Sill, Kill Miki fuck Satella for a thousand years

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I prefer 90's style myself

>>153687108

Is it implied he fucks Hornet as well by default?

...

I just realized that that as far as number of women getting fucked is concerned King Rance and Demon King Rance wouldn't be that different.

>>153687823
They have more personality, yeah.

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>>153687823
Character by character basis here

>>153687823

I love hornets old design much better than the redesign, Same with La Hawzel

>>153687923
I would imagine he fucked all the female demons a lot

Hornet/Kamilla 3P

>>153688139
Glorious.

>>153687823
I like them better, but I don't really dislike the new style either. Sometimes it seems weird seeing new Satella though.

Kamilla, Sheila improved but were still good in KR

Pastel was the massive improvement

>beginning of modern rance is 12 years ago

>>153689098
14, 5D is the start of the modern games

>>153686870
They're going to be released when officially announced by MG. For now, Rance 5D and VI will be released in early winter.

>>153689098
Well, yes. It's an old series.

>>153687108
Now that I think about it. What would Demon King Rance upon reaching the 1000 year limit at the end of his reign? He's never been the type to just quietly accept things as they are.

>>153690823
Demon King Rance's persona is not Rance. At the DK end in KR, he's shown to be rather bored and discontent.

>>153691041
How can anyone get bored of fucking Satella.

>>153691197
because she's not Hornet

>>153691197
1000 of the same thing can get old you know.

>>153690823
When their reign ends they revert back to their prior personality and retain all the memories of what they did, which is why Gai let himself get killed.

Maris seems to be actually rather strong; who is the strongest female in Leazas?

>>153691407
Maris.

>>153691326
>which is why Gai let himself get killed.
That brings up a good question, did he revert to being human or revert to being a Demon?

>>153691407
Maris is the strongest person in Leazas but Rick could probably still beat her in a fight providing we remove his feelings for her.

>>153691272
Kayblis never got bored of stalking Kamilla even after like 4000 years.

>>153691608
He reverted to a human being. By the way, Maris is not the strongest in Leazas. Levels are not that firm of an indicator.

>>153691608
Rick is the strongest person. They're both at the same level, but he has a level 2 skill.

>>153691815
Kayblis never got her and moreover is a squirrel which gained sentience. He wasn't born with it. Not really comparable.

Friendly reminder that all of the strongest people in Leazas besides Maris are highly susceptible to magic

>>153691041
I don't remember that. He seemed to be enjoying the Demon King life just fine.

If levels were the only thing that mattered Athena 2.0 would be absolutely worthless in a fight and do virtually no damage.

>>153692034
All Risu are sentient, aren't they?

>>153658252
Thanks. I've been enjoying it.

>>153691815
>He reverted to a human being.
I don't see why any demon would ever want to become demon king then, Why would you give up a immortal life for being King for 1000 years?

>>153692628
Well, only Kayblis does, he probably has something against being under absolute obedience, just like Rance.

>>153692628
Because you gain absolute command over cute demon girls. Eitherway 1000 years is a very long lifespan, and you're more unlikely to ever get killed than Demons do.

>>153677357
Your what?

>>153642817
She unlocks some dungeons, otherwise nothing comes to mind. I usually don't even get any SAT out of her, at best she's just my Ninja Permit.

>>153650028
>Ryuuguu Sword Urashimaru effect AOE
If memory serves, it works for everything but magical attacks, maybe the Wiki has a comment on it, otherwise just go test it on Uruza or something.

>>153661807
>If you pick the Houjou Family bonus, does that mean that the oil field dungeon is unlocked straight away to get Sounn?
I think it does, as long as you've conquered Houjou and done the relevant events with Ran.

>I notice that he's not one of the people you get straight away according to the wiki
Do you mean on the list of Bonuses? Or elsewhere?

>>153695451
He's been doing a summary of Rance IX for a while now.

>>153696480
Ah. For some reason I didn't read the "IX" part.

>>153677357

Post link to blog!

>>153697348
http://pastebin.com/Pks1Gryr

Oh, hey. I was wondering where this was yesterday.

So is there a listing of the best/decent units you can find in Sengoku Rance? Because exploring options is fine, but it takes a long time to raise every Miko to Mood 7 twice just to see if they have Miko Storm 2, or if the head priestess/Maori maid are the only decent ones. I'm just noticing as I'm playing that there are certain classes which are great, and certain classes which pretty much suck outside select individuals.

Are there any other good places where people discuss rance? The /vg/ thread is like the only place I can find.

>>153697443
There's the Rance thread on 2ch, I guess.

>>153697440
>I'm just noticing as I'm playing that there are certain classes which are great, and certain classes which pretty much suck outside select individuals.
Correct.

>>153688478
リア様と子作りしたい!

>>153697734
Rance already beat you to it

>>153697797
What if I were Rance

>>153697734
You're one fine human being.

>>153697869
Rance wouldn't say "Lia-sama".

>>153697983
Touché

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Maria posted this on her twitter. She's cool sometimes.

>>153698608
Why is the demon girl riding a giant Pikachu with a tophat?

>>153697443
The occasional Rance thread on /v/. But they rarely go anywhere. Between here and there, /haniho/ is better.

>>153698690
>That thing looks like a giant pikachu to you.
You need to stop playing Pokemon Go.

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>>153698608
Mill continues to make me feel things I shoudn't be feeling.

>>153699023
It's okay, anon. We all feel the same way.

>>153698608
It's missing Ran.
No one cares about Ran.

>>153700651
Speak for yourself. Many of us are also into hot mature girls.

>>153700815
She's on the background, above Maria's head.

>>153697440
>So is there a listing of the best/decent units you can find in Sengoku Rance?
Best units are either Natori or Omachi depending on difficulty, "decent" is pretty subjective, and I'm too tired to draw the line anywhere.

> but it takes a long time to raise every Miko to Mood 7 twice just to see if they have Miko Storm 2, or if the head priestess/Maori maid are the only decent one
Miko Storm 2 is exclusive to Natori.

>. I'm just noticing as I'm playing that there are certain classes which are great, and certain classes which pretty much suck outside select individuals.
I think it might just be the case that a broken unit in a bad class stands out more than a broken unit in a good class, although you are quite right - there are certain classes which are great, and certain classes which pretty much suck outside select individuals, although said classes are usually only great because you can make their units great or because they've got a good supply of units who are already great - from that perspective, it's almost hard for a class to just be good.

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>>153700815
It's funny because she was really popular in Kichikuou

>>153699023
She's legal in Nagano I think. Why it's the one place in Japan where you can screw 13 year olds is beyond me.

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>>153698608
>>153701039

>>153701153
She's a really underrated character.

>>153701153
Cute
I want to push her down the stairs

>>153701015
>Miko Storm 2 is exclusive to Natori.
Thanks, that will save me a ton of time.

>classes are usually only great because you can make their units great or because they've got a good supply of units who are already great
I'm more noticing that I always end up using Foot Soldiers and Diviners, while units like Archers and Tacticians tend to just get ignored. Warriors are obviously "good" primarily because there are so many special ones that you hardly need any of the basics, but even a captured enemy Diviner is one I am happy to grab and stick in an army.

And fair enough. I didn't expect anyone to list off all the good/bad points of all the classes in a 10 year old game off the top of their heads. It's why I was wondering if there was a writeup somewhere, where it had already been done.

Thanks for the reply.

>>153687823
Is this the old official art for Hornet? I vastly prefer it to the new one if that's the case. Aside from her clothes being way most tastefully fabulous, the combination of her gentle but bemused expression + one of her eyes being covered by her bangs gives her an air of simultaneous benevolence, mystery, and coquettishness. It's perfect.

One thing I will give the newer version though is that the newer one emphasizes her inexperience/tenuous position due to her clothes actually being too large for her.

>>153701709
Tacticians are almost all great, and Urza in particular is one of the top 3 units.

>>153701974
Yes, it's her older design sadly.

>>153701974
The "new one" is over 10 years old so take it with a grain of salt

>>153703601
>>153703686
They aren't by the same artist, are they? The former looks like Min-Naraken, while the newer one looks like Orion. Is that right?

I'm on my third SR run (first and second were both true routes on fresh installs). I've never used light attack/defeated warrior hunt. Can someone explain to me the reason they're so good?

So far I've picked up:
>weaken enemy rosters
>recruit captured commanders and sell their troops for $$
>the above are a big part of why you should be at war with almost everyone all the time, since constant defensive battles let you passively maximize those two effects
>get access to tacticians and other nice generics once in a while

>>153703917
The newer one is certainly Orion

>>153703601
I know that Uruza is completely broken, but why are tacticians in general good? They seem as good of archers as archers are (which doesn't say much) but their random buffs feel too inconsistent, especially compared to just having another damage dealer in the group. I suppose they can switch that to a single-unit buff, but does that make them far better?

>>153703917
I'm pretty sure Min was the primary artist for Kichikuou.

>>153704108
If you release five prisoners at one time and leave the prison, they give you an item which will grant one level to any troop. You can quickly level up Rance that way.

It gives you access to a wide variety of generics. I really like ones with high Construction since they can easily pay for their own space by building up capitals. You can grab early diviners/tacticians before you would normally get them, and can grab cavalry that way. Some units have surprisingly good stats or already know some good abilities.

You strip useful units out of the enemy army, which they might not be able to replace. Cavalry doesn't get replaced by more cavalry, from what I remember, and most replaced units are not as good as the ones they start with.

It's one way to grab certain unique units far easier.

>>153704195
Well, generics are nothing special but the unique tacticians like Ai and Iehisa are pretty good, and Tourin is awesome.

>>153704195
Straight upgrade archer that provides buffs, buff removal, time killer and battle rating. In Urza's case she comes with Accurate shots too, which is probably the best AOE attack.

>>153704381
KR didn't really have a primary artist. I believe Min did most or all of the demons.

>>153704195
Buffs make a massive difference on strong units (Omachi gets another 1.5x damage with the magic buff), and the better tacticians like Tourin or Ai can reliably apply most of the relevant buffs to the entire army in just one use of their ability. The downside of tacticians is that the ones who aren't Uruza or Tourin aren't all that great in dungeon/commander battles.

>>153704195

Because buffs, the amount of buffs you get increase as you increase the skill and get more troops, how good the buffs are depends on their int.

>>153705054
>>153707058
Ah, alright. Thanks. I've only really used the starting tactician (Akechi, 4 INT) and Uruza, and Uruza with 8 ATT would either just hit stuff directly or take away action flags. I didn't notice that the buffs were different with more INT for the tactician unit.

>>153706398
I don't care about Cordoba or the useless magic general, but I hope Ex important in X. Probably not though.

Sengoku is all RNG anyway, you just fill your army up with the assassinate ninjas and hope they can instakill all the enemy soldiers

>>153707765
That's retarded.

>>153707765
You can't assassinate some important generals, and it'll be very hard to get past Honnouji with mostly ninjas.

>>153707942
Just use Rance for those fights

>>153707494

Unless I remember wrong it's 5% for each point of int, so 8 int would give a 40% boost to stats, for any unit with high stats initially the effects are devastating.

>>153707494
Yeah, that makes sense. Akechi is horrible and Uruza is better off doing other stuff than using her Battle Strategy without upgrades.

>>153698608
I want to fuck the living daylights out of Shizuka

>>153701246
Plus, her H-scenes are great.

>>153701039

How was she in quest personality wise? did anything change?

>>153714265
No she didn't change at all, Rance gave her a reason to live and said reason contradicts the character development of the other 3.

>>153714348

And what was that reason? spoiler it if you need to.

>>153714627
Rance pretends to be evil so Ran's reason for living will be to protect the other 3 from Rance himself which is kind of silly as the other 3 love him

>>153714910

Yeah I can see where you're getting at, something better could have been done.

>>153715043
Well it's rather clear that Alicesoft doesn't want much to do with Ran considering they've done nothing with her really ever since II

>>153715142

That's true too, if I remember right she was barely even a character after beating her in II as well.

>>153715410
She's just not a memorable character, even within II.

Mill has loli love, Maria has bazookas, and Shizuka had that time travel idea. Ran was just a half-assed magical swordsman.

>>153716606
>magical swordsman.
There aren't many of those in the series
Ran
Witcha
Gai
Hornet?

>>153716606
I recall she had a sadistic streak at first in II due to the ring messing with her head. I feel like you could of done something with that.

>>153716606
>>153718143
It's the same thing which happened to Leazas but earlier.

Because the game isn't about the Kathtom witches some were always going to decline in importance, especially since Maria and Shizuka became mains.

>>153716717

Ghandi was a magic swordsman in Kichikuou, although in 6 onwards he fully embraced being a muscle mage and punches things to death as well as unleashing powerful magic.

>>153718603
Leazas remains relevant through Lia's actions though, Leazas helps Rance in almost every game in one way or another

>>153718802
Yeah Leazas does but many of the Leazas characters such as Maris and Leila declined in importance in the modern games where the focus shifted from Leazas.

It was Lia, Rick and the new girl in Tilde who remained important characters

>>153716717

Come to think of it it's kind of surprising there is no strong female magical swordsman, the only ones around are low or at best mid tier.

>>153719167
>>153719167
there aren't really in strong human magical swordsmen.

And we don' even know if Hornet will use swords

>>153719000
Maris declined in importance because they decided to develop Lia's character and part of that is making her run the country herself.

Leila was just never popular

>>153719167
Because you need high sword and magic skill to make it useful and getting both of those is really rare apparently.

>>153719316
Gai did probably teach her how to use them as part of her training, Magic is more effective though

>>153719394
And because there has been no logical reason whatsover for Maris to appear in VI, VII or IX

>>153719627
Basically, Somebody needs to watch over Leazas while Lia invades Zeth. Maris isn't an army commander so she's not that helpful in SR and she's not a front line unit so she's not that much help in IX either She appears the time where it makes sense, which is Quest and she's one of the best healers IIRC

>>153719783
yeah. That's my point

>>153722391
You might as well expand on that and add Tilde, Barres, Kanami and Menad

>>153722391
kek at Rance being tsundere for Rick

>>153722391
Does this imply Lia doesn't want to fuck Rance?

>>153723701
Wanting to be fucked is part of loving

>>153723773
Does Rick wants to be fucked by Leazas?

>>153722708
They don't really add anything though?

>>153723017
It's true.

>>153723867
It doesn't?

>>153723942
Well they're not really part of a hexagon or anything.

Barres is loyal to Lia and his country. No arrows point towards him (well technically Rick is under his command)

Menad loves Rance and works for Rick and Rance wants to fuck her.

Tilde serves herself (technically Leila) and loves Rance and Rance wants to fuck her.

Kanami served Lia and is tsundere (now love) for Rance who loves her.

>>153723834

Wanting to have sex with your country is a part of being a true patriot.

>>153724128
Why would Rick be under Barres command?

>>153724846
Barres is the grand commander of the army

>>153722391
>Implying Rance wouldn't want to fuck half the population of the Kingdom of Leazas

>>153726010
nobody implied anything of the sort

>>153726010
I highly doubt hald of Leazas population would be in his strike zone

>>153728281
While that's obviously the case, isn't Leazas the only country with every women we've seen from it within his strike range?

>>153728778
That doesn't mean much. It's a porn game, they obviously won't include all those ugly girls except as a joke.

>>153728778
Given Leazas presumbably has normal demographics the majority won't be in his strike zone.

Maybe 20% at best.

Its a porn game so there is already a disproportionate of young, hot women (though more males than other eroge series0

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>>153728778

Mangagamer will probably run their own, definitive popularity poll for VI

>>153730267
Don't see why they would. The only poll they ran for a VN was the Evangile one to see who would get the tapestry space, wasn't it?

>>153729027
>>153729997
I get that, I just find it odd that they haven't shown any undesirable women in Leazas when they've shown some in the other countries.

>>153730213
Did you forget that he covered her with semen?

>>153730267
I somewhat doubt that.

>>153730353
>>153730353
To be honest they've shown far less of Leazas than lets say Zeth or JAPAN.

Can't think of anyone in Helman out of Rance's range.
Still think her would have fucked Pamela. He did want to fuck Kamilla after all

>>153730604
>Can't think of anyone in Helman out of Rance's range
Minerva

>>153730604
Minerva and Bitch's wife.

>Shown far less of Leazas
True, we've only really seen inside of the capital and a couple of the surrounding towns.

>>153730353
>Did you forget that he covered her with semen?
Did you read the text or just look at the CGs?

>>153731424
Basing it off memory, do correct me If I'm wrong

>>153731613
It wasn't semen he covered her in and unlike me, Rance doesn't feel any sexual attraction for her.

>>153732693
I'm all over Mill but not even I feel anything for Jericho, she's too much of a comic relief kind of character

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Does anyone know where I'm supposed to go from here

I've gotten the tablet back from that girl that traded you a photo, and I have no idea how to progress now.

I can't open any of the tombs apart from the first one for some reason, and I can't seem to interact with the teleporter things

wow guys what's going on in /hgg/ right now

>>153734704
Shitposting probably.

>>153734704
Why would we know?

>>153734550
Buy one of the meals from the inn

>>153734704
Their OP gets bored and shitposts in his own thread. It's nothing new

>>153735090
Thanks

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>>153735184

>>153701709
>I always end up using Foot Soldiers and Diviners, while units like Archers and Tacticians tend to just get ignored
Foots are vital, but there's not many that are genuinely good, but as a rule of thumb, if the Foot isn't generic, then it is good (...for low difficulties anyway).

Most Diviners are good in low difficulties, but aside from having access to Guard Shikigami (or All-Guard Shikigami) there's only about 3 that are valuable in high difficulties.

Isoroku is the only good Archer in the game, the exact reason depends on difficulty, but either way it's because she give you access to otherwise unobtainable moves.

Tacticians are fantastic, although the generic ones suck without you putting some work into them, however most of the non-generic ones are amazing. Naoe Ai, Uruza and Tourin are game changers, but rather than go into details (I'm trying to not ruin your fun), I'll sum it up with "the strength and number of the buffs that the Tacticians give out are proportional to the buffing move they have and their Int, these buffs are awesome, also for some, there's unique or otherwise hard to get moves"

As you've said, there's such a good supply of excellent Warriors that you needn't worry about the rest.

>And fair enough. I didn't expect anyone to list off all the good/bad points of all the classes in a 10 year old game off the top of their heads
I could do it in all of two minutes, but it'd spoil your fun.

>>153703601
>Urza is one of the top 3 units.
Top 3? Debatable.

>>153704108
>I've never used light attack/defeated warrior hunt. Can someone explain to me the reason they're so good?
Light Attack is good because it's the best way to capture enemy commanders.
DWH is good because it's the second best way.
Capturing is good for all the reasons you've listed, but it also lets you obtain unique units that you otherwise wouldn't be able to get.

>>153704195
Holy shit, that post got a lot of replies. Good job /haniho/!

>>153707765
Fool.

>>153737760
>Top 3? Debatable.
Not him but list your top 5. I'm curious about the opinion of somebody who obviously plays more SR than I ever have

Just seeing light attack in a post made me want to say this.

It's important to know that you only need to hit the enemy once to gain the effect of light attack, you do not need to finish off the enemy with light attack, you will only make yourself suffer trying.

Also with light attack you can capture more than the normal amount, the normal limit from battles is 2 killed/captured, with light attack you can go over that.

>>153738016
>Not him but list your top 5
That's actually pretty challenging...

Ok, ignoring how hard a unit is to get, assuming optimal play, assuming 5 Star, and assuming that we're only talking about units that you can actually recruit. I can start by saying that it's obvious that Natori and Omachi are the best two, but as I've previously shown (http://pastebin.com/TAgZbnnn is a rough copy from my notes), Natori is better than Omachi.

To continue, we need to find a way to compare units. The best way I can think of doing this is just to compare how much the unit contributes to the Battle Rating. With that in mind, I'll make this shortlist:

Isoroku/Suzume/Yuzumi/Gekkou (best insta-killers)
Uruza
Kenshin (I'll assuming normal Kenshin, the game's already over once she's at full power in her own route)
Your favourite Footsoldier
Chinu
Seigan
Dousan
Naoe Ai
Ogawa Kentarou
Any of the Takeda Generals

I think I'll rule out the insta-killers straight away purely because they're random. Gekkou also gets cut because his guarantee comes too late.

I feel like I could use Tourin's buffs to argue around this, but Baba (with Battle Rating Up 2) contributes just as much to the meter as he does, and he does it faster, with the added versatility of being a Cavarly unit. So Baba is probably the best general.

Ah fuck it!
1) Natori
2) Omachi
3) Tourin=Baba=Yamagata
6) Someone else

You probably think I'm joking, but go through that list again. Uruza, Dousan and Kenshin are great, particularly for allowing you to save damage and get off crazy combos, but you should be able to do just as well with 3 Takeda Generals. Heck, you can probably crack most castles in the game with just two of them, provided that you've got a reasonable group for your other 4 units.

As for the likes of Chinu of Seigan, they're neither as good as the generals nor as reliable and Ai, Kentarou and Foots don't even merit comparison.

>>153701153
I still hope they will give her some more development in X. The way how they handled her in Quest was really unsatisfying.

>>153741146
I doubt she'll even appear in X unless Rance visits Custom

>>153741346
If X will be about monster realm only I will be highly disappointed.

>>153741346
Just curious, but what are everyone's expectation for party member size in X? The way everyone talks about it, it's like Rance is just going to get the elite few from each country to raid the Monster Continent, when Alicesoft themselves says that the party member size is massive.

I know people like Pulptenks, Milly and Patty are pretty slim, but I think every capable fighter should appear, even if they don't get much resolution.

>>153741346
>>153741346
>>153741146
>>153741558
>>153741558
>>153741596
As someone who expects Kayblis and co to start the game invading humanity I expect a cameo appearance from Ran at least.

>>153741558
It'll have the angel stuff as well

>>153741596
I'm expecting at least 3 times the size of VI's cast in playable characters so 48+, I don't expect all of them to be useful though

>>153741652
I'd prefer if it didn't start with an invasion simply because that put's Hornet's entire faction on the rape list.

>>153741596
24-30

>>153741596

With the enemies they're up against it seems hard to picture the lower levels being useful, although I just pictured how the gameplay could work, it could work like soul nomad/tactics ogre with squad based combat, if it worked like that I can easily imagine there being a large cast.

>>153741739
You can have it be like IX and have Hornet escape with Satella, with the rest of the Hornet faction in hiding.

That way, you can prevent it going like in KR and still have time limit variable where both Rance faction and Kayblis faction will go to various locations in the Continent.

>>153741858
While I like that idea, Hornet is way too OP to have as a unit until Rance starts fighting Angels, She's almost as strong as Kayblis just by herself so she'd have to be injured and even while she's injured she would be pretty damn strong if we look at injured Kamilla as an example

I know I did say that I was going to do the IX playthrough today but basically in my uni course we have some tests about a month into a semester.

They're not worth much and they serve as warnings for if you've fallen behind and need to catch the fuck up. And the marks just got uploaded last night by my tutor and I needed to catch the fuck up.

So I've spent all day on that and am pretty much done now.

This has really taken a long time probably because of all the detail I put into the summaries. I've actually gone ahead and completed the game myself in that time.

I am going to definitely do parts of chapter 7 tomorrow and hopefully aim to at least get a chapter done a week to a fortnight from now on.

In the meantime I'll dump more images on the booru sometime tonight

>>153741858
Satella aside, if any of the girls from Hornet Faction is successfully escaping from Kayblis, it's not gonna be Hornet. Not only from a story perspective, but also as a gameplay thing. If she escapes with Satella and meets Rance, there's no reason for her not to fight as a playable character, and she would render pretty much every character pointless. Imagine if you got Hanty in IX from minute 1 as a permanent character.

>>153741858
>>153742001
>>153742067
My expectation is that Hornet will get badly injured fighting Kayblis and Silky will make a sacrifice and tell Satella to get Hornet and run off and find Little Princess.

Satella will go and take Hornet to Rance and Hornet will spend most the game recovering from injury. It also gives an opportunity for Rance and Hornet to slowly build a relationship.

If Hornet is to be an actual heroine it's the most logical way to do it.

>>153742067
>Imagine if you got Hanty in IX from minute 1 as a permanent character.
You don't even need to imagine that, It's quite possible to do a second run on the lowest difficulty and see how she changes the game.

That said Hornet could just be in a state where she can't fight

>it's not gonna be Hornet
It's not going to be any of the others either, It's Satella and Hornet or Satella alone.

>>153742001
Make her be very injured. Like brought down to below Annis-tier due to factors, maybe the magic she used to escape the Monster Realm had incredible side-effects that sapped a good amount of her magic for an unknown amount of time.

I can definitely see it, due to it being another Mamatoto reference they can play with.

>>153741596
I expect the number of playable characters to be smaller than in Quest but notably bigger than in VI. I highly doubt that Kichikou scenario will be used in X save for a few small throwback. Every country focused game that came out after Kichikuou drastically changed their scenarios and I don't see why this time it will be any different. Personally I'm hoping for a slow buildup like it was done in VI with plenty of time for Rance to fuck around before the demons invasion begins instead of straightforward linear path of IX.

>>153742185
Hornet faction is defeated due to Flame Scrivener betraying them, tricking Hawzel who is concerned about the safety of her sister.

Hornet gets raped brutally but escapes to search out Miki to try and protect her still.

But Kayblis (or someone else he listens to) let Hornet go so they can follow her and capture Miki

>>153742179
Hawzel has a slim chance because she met Miki along with Satella, and is also pretty weak for Demon's standards.
I don't expect Hornet and Silky to join Rance except *maybe in late game.

>>153742384
Hawzel has no chance. Hornet possibly has heroine status to protect her.

Hawzel doesn't. Plus she fits with Medusa already and her apostle is already in Kayblis faction.

And it sets up the opportunity for Seizel to join Rance which was already partially set up in VI.

>>153742358
>Hornet gets raped brutally
I highly doubt that's going to happen outside of a bad end, look what they did with Sheila.

>>153742384
Hawzel is the most likely of all of Hornet's faction to get raped and Hawzel being captured is the perfect bait to make Seizel join Rance to save her. Silky could go either way but if Alicesoft had the choice between Silky and Hornet, they'd probably choose Hornet.

>>153742471
I did say slim chance, but Hornet has no heroine status. That is just wishful thinking.

>>153742525
We don't know if Hornet will be the heroine.

Satella and Sill could be enough.

>>153742549
She's far closer to heroine than Hawzel who will be the token sacrifice to show how evil the Kayblis-Medusa duo is

>>153742549
She has Princess status, which has a similar barrier that protects them.

As for Kou, she wasn't princess of JAPAN, just Oda and in the end, it's hinting that the title might be eventually passed down to Rangi, which would make Isoroku the "Princess" in the scenario.

>>153741596
I wonder if they'd do something like in FE: radiant dawn where there are different arcs defending each country with different characters before a final merger. I imagine they wouldn't since Rance can't be everywhere but it'does help with large parry size.

Maybe there would be an invasion arc in each country and you could pick who to bring to the demon realm in the end so you could have whoever you want deal the finishing blow to Kayblis.

>>153743641
I wouldn't be surprised if it were like that though obviously a Leazas/Free Cities/JAPAN arc requires Helman and Zeth to get fucked

>>153742736
Rangi won't get any title in canon, he only got the title in route 56 because Kou died.
This also wouldn't make Isoroku a princess.

>>153743828
>>153743828
Actually if Kou has no kids it will go to Rangi.

>>153743752
It could be that those are the first arc with them dealing with a small force looking for Miki perhaps? That could be what ignites more interest in the demon realm, sorta like Camilla's invasion in KR.

>>153743905
>>153743905
Possibly.

>>153743887
And why would you think that? Rangi only got the title since Rance was the appointed ruler of house Oda when Kou died. Since that's not a thing anymore no title for any of Rance's kids.

>>153743995
Because Kou will get to choose and it fits with both the Isoroku route and the KR reference

>>153744049
Kou won't even die any time in the near future

>>153744225
I never said she would

>>153714910

>implying an evil man couldn't trick three innocent young maidens into "loving" him

>>153722391

Are we sure Maris doesn't want to fuck Lia?

>>153745139
covered under love

>>153745139
It's probably more accurate to say that Maris wants Lia to fuck her.

I think the old formula where Kaybliss beats Hornet faction and then proceeds to attack humans is just too plain to justify its use once again. Another issue is that Rance already fought demons on numerous occasions and always prevailed in the end. If they will put up another bunch of them as the opponents with just a bigger and stronger one at the top it won't be really imposing. I want to see demons to be led by a Demon King and put humanity at the brink of destruction as something that never had appeared in the earlier games. Rance never faced such a threat before without being led to automatic game over and the final game should be where it's actually possible. Whether it will be Miki or Kaybliss is another matter but without prevailing over a Demon King the conclusion won't be really satisfying.

>>153747164
The Demon King isn't the final boss though

>>153747595
I don't want to see the war against demons to be turned into standard cakewalk with one boss being defeated after another. I want to see the struggle against them being really close and require every bit of resources that humankind has. And without a Demon King in charge they hardly have anything else fundamentally stronger from what was already shown in previous games. Only after prevailing over such kind of enemy suddenly appearing another force that is even more stronger would be really imposing.

>>153748524
They are going to struggle on all of the stronger ones as even a injured Kamilla was strong enough to match Rance's VI party (they couldn't even hurt her until Albert gave them a open window) and most of the party were near or at their level caps at that point

The Demon King is simply a enemy far beyond what the group could ever deal with, It would just be a 1v1 fight with a massively level boosted Rance.

>>153748524
Even an injured and lazy Kamilla dominated the fuck out of Rance's group until Abert interfered

And Kay-chan is far stronger than her

>>153748524
Even if all of humanity was at max level (bar Rance) and fought against the Demon King, they'd still lose.

I'm actually more curious about what they will do with the white whale than with the Demons. I'm assuming that the issue with the Creator will be brought up in Rance X as well as the war with the Demons. I'm hoping that there will be a resolution to that which is different from what occurred in Kichikuou, but I'm curious as to what that could possibly be. Maybe it could be an expanded version involving putting the white whale to sleep and then gradually converting everybody to Tenshiism to weaken it over time.

>>153749052
What was Rance's level in 03 after Gele pumped it up again? Assuming that was used again, he'd need to be 20 times that level since EDK has roughly 5 percent of a demon King's power.

>>153750351
It's about 600 level increase on what you were against Noce

>>153750263
Creator Route is guaranteed given Magnum

>>153750351
>he'd need to be 20 times that level since EDK has roughly 5 percent of a demon King's power.
I don't think it's that simply as she just boosted her level to max rather than restoring her life force

Wouldn't it be better to use the levels you have when you fight GODDESS Alice in Quest?

>>153750263
I can't really see Rance teaming up with the demons immediately after what they did to Feliss

>>153748524
Personally, i still think X should be a two part Game, there is certainly enough stuff left to cover and it would be fitting for the series finale

>>153749673
>>153749052
With some interference from a third party, with tricking or without it a bunch of demons was already defeated in previous games. Kaybliss is still a demon even if he is stronger than the others. I want too see a bigger level of threat than this from the one who commands demon forces.

>>153751516
Yeah. Ludo and his boys

Kayblis utterly destroys Kamilla in one sperg hit.

>>153750767
>that spoiler

What happens when you beat her?

>>153751908
Ludo rage quits

>>153751954
Why does Ludo feel so much better than Rudrathraum?

>>153752093
because Rudrathraum is just Rude.

It's probably just because we're used to Ludo

I want to see Hanty and Patton finally have a full relationship and the crystal on her forehead change color.

>>153752174
All you'll see is an egg in X

>>153750801
Like, nothing? They probably don't even know she exists

>>153753089
*Devils my bad because the Devils are spreading Tenshiism

Are the children of Male Demons also Demons?
What is Kurohime
>inb4 witch gunslinger

>>153753089
He means the devils. Or whatever they are called now.

>>153750537
It's a 513 level increase.

>>153751761
speaking of spoiler,
I remember in a /v/idya confessions thread that a femanon was almost raped because she went to a guy friend's house (fixing a rig) wearing a loose tank top and bootyshorts and the guy was a big and tall nerd with retard strength now I want to commision that with Kamilla and Kayblis

>>153753264
Kurohime isn't a demon. Other demons have a decisive lack of offspring.

>>153753596
Do it

>>153753718
I don't get a decent paycheck until the 25th

>>153753264
Kurohime isn't a demon.

No idea how she compares to an apostle but I'd assume she's much weaker given Suzume is capable of kidnapping her.

>>153753797
Do it then.

One thing /haniho/ understands is paitence