/mcg/ - Minecraft General - YOU LET THE THREAD DIE edition

Whoops. Previous thread is here: >>153426067

>always make sure to bump threads
>went to get food
i feel like this is my fault somehow

>>153592901
way to go anon

>Better With Mods released
>1.10

who cares

just let it die lads it's no use

are zombie pigmen spawning on nether portals subject to the no spawning within 24 blocks of a player rule? maybe I'm blind but I couldn't find this info in the wiki

>>153596615
no

>>153592727
what's the deal with the thaumic bases fork? the releases pages doesn't tell much of a story, but I'm assuming its like a maintenance version?

>>153597370
It's less fug, menus cleaned up, buggy things trashed, I think

>>153597370
Barely related question: I'm playing FTB Infinity Evolved, are there any other Thaumcraft addons that are worth adding? I hear good things about Gadomancy, but what's the deal with Thaumic Bases/others?

>>153564845
>B-B-B-BUT FRAGMENTAN' THE COMMUNITAY!
yet another of your famous "why nobody should try to fix the problems with the standard environment" mantras. you're so fucking terrified of cracking eggs you're never going to get that omelette made.

the hard reality of things is that forge WAS good but now thanks to lex is as much the problem as anything. changing anything WILL require "fragmenting the community". it was fragmented before and nobody died from it. there WILL be drama. mostly from lex and curse shills, knowing how things go. the only way to avoid it is to avoid changing the status quo; the status quo needs to be changed. just because you're a goddamned coward doesn't mean everyone else should be.

as it is I fully expect fabric to die the first time lex throws a tantrum, because you'll be desperately trying to calm him YET AGAIN.

>>153597930
pls no more drama

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Tidied up my cobblestone 9x9 a bit, contemplating whether the aesthetics of making a city with a building for each mod outweighs the inconvenience it's going to add to crafting literally anything.

>>153597456
I see. I'll pick up and try it out then.

>>153597505
definitely add Gadomancy to Infinity. it has a lot of useful niche items, like that crystal eye thing that monitors vis levels. pretty sure that's gadomancy anyways.

absolutely add it if you're playing meme mode. you will want to have a way to automate infusions.

>>153597975
As if /mcg/ would survive as a general without drama.

>>153598376
we need memes
or something to worship
like /egg/

>>153598291
Nah not playing Expert Mode. I used to play Unhinged back in the day but I've been away for too long to make any commitments like that.

>>153598468
what does egg worship

>>153599505
Mechanoeldritch force of nature.
CLANG

>>153597930
yes this

Do what Forge did.. be compatible with the old standard and then wait a year or two and drop support after you have a big user base.

>>153599653
wut

>>153592727
OP, it's good you made the thread, but don't copypasta the previous OP verbatim. Now the previous thread link is wrong.

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>>153599852
CLANG

>>153599795
Impossible, in this case.

>>153597930
>yet another of your famous "why nobody should try to fix the problems with the standard environment" mantras.
Not this time. I'm just saying that the majority of /mcg/ would probably find further reasons to complain about things if any changes were to actually happen.

>changing anything WILL require "fragmenting the community".
You're the ones who want to change anything at all. I'm doing Fabric for personal enjoyment, not for catering to /mcg/. If people use Fabric, sure, that's a nice thing to have, but I'm not going to try and push it as the new Forge, because, unlike Forge, which actually has a "paid" (or, rather, getting income solely from) developer working on it, any of us may quit at any time - if we decide Minecraft isn't fun anymore. And that's liberating.

>it was fragmented before and nobody died from it.
It has always been fragmented. It's still fragmented. It's even more fragmented now. I'm just saying that even when it's fragmented between Minecraft versions alone /mcg/ starts whining about it, so I can only imagine what would happen here if loaders got into it as well.

>there WILL be drama.
Sure, and then I'm out. I'm not going to risk my mental health for virtual LEGO, it's simply not worth it when the only thing holding me here is passion.

>just because you're a goddamned coward doesn't mean everyone else should be.
Has anyone stepped up to replace Forge in the last 2.5 years? No? FyberOptic and Cuchaz were both doing it for their own personal enjoyment as well. immibis was forking Forge simply as it was too slow and his computer was a toaster. In other words, by your definition, yes, everyone in the modding community is a "goddamned coward".

(cont.)

What's the equivalent of Treecapitator for 1.10?

>>153600794
>>153597930

>mostly from lex and curse shills
Curse actually said they'd happily support Meddle if it had enough mods and users going for it to make it economically viable (or, rather, they said that they won't support Meddle until it has more mods/users). I don't think they care as long as they can keep being a community hub.

>as it is I fully expect fabric to die the first time lex throws a tantrum, because you'll be desperately trying to calm him YET AGAIN.
That's not what killed NOVA.

NOVA died because of three things:
- The community didn't care much. It was mostly finished in July and calclavia was making mods for it, but nobody else really cared.
- The worldgen issue. The API was never quite sorted out there, mostly because NOVA's goal of catering to every voxel game was overambitious (not impossible - just infeasible without any funding at all)
- calclavia got a job at a Minecraft educational company which offered to pay him to work on NOVA, but two months later they asked him to make an in-house, less insane solution instead, effectively killing the project.

>>153597975
The day we stop caring about the mess that is "the modding scene" and just start enjoying things again is the day drama stops being a thing. that day will never happen

>>153601076
No real one, since bspkrs left to work on Starmade. You may want to try VeinMiner? FyberOptic also has a pretty good equivalent, but it only works with Meddle.

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>tfw u finally get the quarry bot running
never wrote a line of lua before. Really fun experience but I think I might have autism

>>153600794
just have fun asie.
things made by people doing it for fun tend to have a lot more spirit and are usually higher quality.
if it fails, it fails.
if it doesn't, it doesn't.

>>153601689
>bspkrs left to work on skubmade
what

>>153601076
WholeTreeAxe

>>153600794
>It has always been fragmented.
Errata: That's not entirely true. We /almost/ got it unified for 1.7.10, which - as you might remember - was the time the NOVA drama took place. The "fragmenting the community" argument made a lot of sense before 1.8.9 and 1.10.2 effectively did that.

>unlike Forge, which actually has a "paid" (or, rather, getting income solely from) developer working on it
(which effectively makes Lex obligated to keep working on Forge for as long as possible, giving it a sense of stability Fabric will never really have)

>>153601823
>just have fun asie.
Thank you. I don't hear that often.

>things made by people doing it for fun tend to have a lot more spirit and are usually higher quality.
They are also a lot less reliable as to schedules, as "fun" is very fragile. This is why we keep warning people to not treat Fabric as the new holy grail modding API - I mean, I'm only in it because I want to make my total conversion mod thing without having to deal with the Forge mess. The other members of the core team have a similar philosophy - they're mod makers who are tired of dealing with the Forge mess and just want to make mods away from the "scene" and all associated drama/pain.

>what
He's one of the main devs.

I'm really spamming /mcg/ today, it appears.

>>153602197
>They are also a lot less reliable as to schedules
To clarify - one of the things I want to get working on as soon as I buy - and decide on - a new keyboard, as well as reinstall my server, is to set up a wiki documenting all the internal procedures for Fabric - most notably, mapping maintenance, as the rest is fairly straightforward. This is so that, in the event of my disappearance, anyone can take it up - and if nobody does, was it really that important to begin with?

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>>153602349
>is to set up a wiki documenting all the internal procedures for Fabric

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

>>153603231
There's not that many of them. I can only really think of one right now.

The mapping update mostly involves generating "merged" JARs (Minecraft uses the same obfuscated names on the client and server, but omits certain classes, fields and methods) manually with blending-jar (to be renamed patchouli as it's becoming more of a patching toolkit) and then using an eight-step process with the Enigma command line to actually remap the mappings.

>>153601076
Tree Chopper is pretty reliable in my experience.

https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/tree-chopper

>>153603921
gosh I'm glad the smart people are handling this part because I only got about a fifth of that.

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>>153603921
>to be renamed patchouli

>>153605157
Don't take any mods, please.

>>153604857
Feel free to ask questions - I'll try my best to answer them when I wake up.

So I'm not really a regular, but why is TiCon considered overpowered?

>>153607265
One anon hates it because it makes all vanilla style tools irrelevent, which is kind of it's point, but with stuff like extraTiC you can get pretty insane.
I was thinking maybe you could make it so it retrieves the durabilities and whatnot of the tools automatically during startup so that is literally the exact same as the vanilla style tools except not shit. Maybe add some of the features of iguanatweaks, like replacing parts.
But it makes vanilla style tools and enchanting irrelevant, which is its purpose, but is really minmaxable to the point of being stupid.

>>153607265
Because the tools are straight up better than 90% of modded tools, rendering the others redundant. Hammers are too good too imho.

>>153607620
If you decide to do a Tinker-less or Less-tinker run/pack There are a few "Vanilla" alternatives to the Hammers, and there is a decent modular drill mod in both Super Multidrills and Actually Shitditions which you can get 3x3 and in AA's case 5x5

>>153607620
Well, what do you expect from modded stuff?

>>153607824
IE's drill does it best in my opinion. Uses resources non trivially and requires infrastructure that prevents resource management from becoming an abstract concept within the first hour.

>>153608143
Eh. I just want a non tinker tool that does 3x3, pretty early. Building becomes MUCH faster.

>>153607620
Well what other mod adds tools that TiCon 'competes' with? I admit the Lumber Axe and Hammer are goat but my IE2 Drill is still my go to.

>>153608381
Hammerz, with Enchanting Plus. A reasonable hammer is an steel one with some good ass enchantments.

>>153609947
I like that you use metal blocks instead of wood for the edges of the builds. But I would suggest depth so it doesnt look like a plain wall.

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>>153610334
Would do you think I should add for that depth?

>>153601227
>community didn't care much
which can't have had anything to do with certain voices going on about sticking with forge and not making waves, nope nope.

you constantly absolve yourself of everything you fuck up. it must be nice to be that narcissistic. no wonder lex hates you, the two of you are alike in that regard.

>>153602197
>I'm only in it for my one mod plan
which is to say that when you get bored of it you'll wander off and make sure to fuck shit up enough that they can't go on without you. clever.

>>153605763
okay, so. in Forge, to load a mod, you need the @Mod declaration with attritbutes to give it, an @Mod.Instance, preferably @SidedProxy assigned and you need to handle:
- FMLPreInit, FMLInit, FMLPostInit
events, and within those you register whatever your mod adds.

Fabric's template mod only has an @Init with init() method. it seems to be called very early on in startup, but I have literally no idea how the modloader actually works or when things happen in the process.

How does this process happen within Fabric? if I add blocks--which should be pretty simple--how would I register them and when would I do that in init()?
or is that part of the modloader still in-dev?

oh, here's one. How much "centralization" are you going to do? by this I mean things like OreDictionary. is that going to be part of Fabric or would that be left to modders?

this also I guess is a good time to bring up how you are handling rendering, if at all?
what I'm concerned with is if I have to dredge up four books from ten years ago about rendering quads and learn how to interpret forty lines of math, or if I can just tell the loader "render this .obj model". I understand it might be impossible to make it simple because Minecraft's rendering isn't simple. as long as I can into trains and cool shit that's fine.
I don't know anything about how JSON took over textures and models in 1.8+ but if its simpler than agonizing over OpenGL that's fine with me.

I think any other questions I'd have would be more directed to creating mods instead of inquiring about Fabric, so, one last thing;

buildcraft port/clone for fabric y/n

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>ender quarry gets stuck after mining a dense ore
>look at its NBT
>it has a stack of zero items
>look at its source code
>if it has a stack of zero items, it will never remove them and continue mining

Nice. I still have no idea how it got a stack of zero items to begin with.

>>153607587
>vanilla-style
that is not to say that vanilla's own tools should be relevant.

however, ticon being present shouldn't make it so that only ticon-style tools can be relevant. especially since ticon's style inherently leads to broken-as-fuck MAWPC shit the likes of which should be sending this thread into massive fits.

>>153607620
good thing there's mods that provide hammers without ticon's bustedness.

>>153608143
>IE's drill is best because it's a burden to use
no, fuck you. tools should neither be broken or so costly to use that you'd be better off without them.

>>153612345
t. quarryfag

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>>153611974
>Would do you think I should add for that depth?
>whatdidhemeanbythis.png
Seriously, just by putting the metal block a block further, not in front but like pic related (dont have the game on lap and laps mousepad is a shiet).
Also, you better post your whole base sometime faggot.

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>>153612547
I see what you mean, but extending it out a whole 'nother block seems excessive. I may panel some microblocks on it to give it the illusion though.

Also dumping base.

>>153607265
it doesn't have 'competition'. TiCon adds a wide toolset and deletes Minecraft's RNG-based enchantment for a completely customizable system directly operated by player input.
which is such a fucking obvious mechanic its shameful vanilla had RNG controlling enchanting for as long as it did.

no mod adds a way for you to make a decently-quick hammer-like tool that has something like 12k durability with little resource requirement. you need maybe a stack of redstone and some steel. an emerald if you want silk touch.
>inb4 but anon there's this other mod that does literally that you stupid bitch
point me to it then, queerbait

other mods don't add things like that. if they do, it doesn't "compete" with TiCon, it overrules it by adding something 'better'.or it just doesn't perform or have enough variability that people want the thing.
or mods just add Yet Another Pickaxe. Thaumcraft adds Thaumium/Voidium?/ToolType+Magic tools, and a mining focus for the wand. The Thaumium tools naturally are just 'slightly better than iron but the same thing'. the infused tools have neat effects but are either niche usage--the Hoe of Growth--or don't compete, being the smelting pickaxe and the axe of the stream; Auto-smelt (which is a stupid effect) and Lumber axes exist and are BETTER than these tools simply by virtue of having more variability and choice.

buttania adds the terrasteel whatever thing. after making terrasteel, making the thing, and charging it for an eternity, you can use it. its far and away better, but you have to charge it forever.

IE's mining drill is okay. you have to lug batteries around for it. same with any other powered drill. it requires power and you generally have to lug more power with it. you don't have to lug more power around with a purple hammer that has moss and ~24k durability

tl;dr if people want TiCon to stop being at 'the top' of tools, make something that directly competes with its mechanics.

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>>153613063

>>153613324
Really if they dont like the Overpowered parts of Tinker there are many and several ways to nerf them like recipe changes and disabling/ changing some of the mechanics of the mod, or simply dont use dem MAUPICI things.

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>>153613507

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>>153614132

>>153614629
What does that machines does?

>>153614798
From left to right:

Metal Press
Assembler
A dressed-up Rolling Machine.

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>>153612334
Anyway, the workaround is to use an extractor module, because apparently the quarry only gets stuck when ejecting an item into a chest that already has some of that item.

>>153614907
Can you be more specific?
Want to try some automatization with IE just for the looks so I want to know what it does and how.

>>153615026
>that distant wall of caches and pipe insanity
sweet merciful CLANG.

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>>153615106
Metal press presses ingots into shapes. There are a few different ones you can use.

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>>153615106
Assembler makes stuff from normal crafting grids. Also it can input liquids to use and use parts from previous steps in the following ones. Just feed raw materials in one side and out it comes from the other.

>>153615307
>that model/texture insanity going on in the press

>>153615782
Yeah, that's a glitch with the texture pack I'm using. Looks fine on vanilla.

>>153615307
>manually operated metal press

Watch your fingers!

>>153615954
Actually powered by RF. just drop the ingots on the belt on one end.

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>>153616150
>drop the ingots on the belt

The belt on the metal press supports item automation and can have items inserted by hoppers, pipes, etc.

>>153616363
I know that. That's how most of my systems are working.

>>153616445
I was wondering how you were automating that but then I realized you are not, are you?

>>153616445
>drop
>the
>ingots
>on
>the
>belt

>>153616612
Not at the moment. This is the latest build I've finished so I'm still working on getting everything inside fully automated.

>>153616747
No bully. :(

That solves a lot of questions, usually when seeing peoples builds of autism automated machines with IE they look really saturated with all the wires and constrasting colors of the things. Which makes them look bigger and way more complex than they actually are.

>>153619662
honk honk

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>>153619847

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Reworking!

Since I have decided to go Wild West era on my builds, I've decided to tear down my fantasy-inspired build and replace it with something fitting to the period. The building in white was by Buttania setup, with a pork mana reactor, and a shack at the back where most crafting happens, except for the Pure Daisy and Petal Apothecary, which is in the domed building in the picture.

The brick building is the fire-proof shell for my spawner mob system consisting of a spawner for witches, blazes and zombies. (The sole reason for the fireproofing is the Jolt, a Blaze variant which teleports and causes lightning strikes.) I'm trying for a nondescript factory building style for it. Eventually, the domed building will be replaced by a general store, with an easy access to the mob system itself.

>>153620242
doesnt look really wild wst

>>153621341
I'm struggling with the fact that you can't be Wild West without going full wood on anything, and I've already had instances of buildings going half-gone after a stray Jolt spit fire, missed and hit one of the wood buildings I made.

Natura does have some fireproof woods, but they look terrible.

I was considering relocating the Blaze spawner back to the Nether to rid me of that problem, but I don't really like to spend a lot of time there, especially since I got most of the Nether essentials.

>>153621636
hard clay, chisel brick. Just use wood on the not on danger of fire.

Also: sandybrick, sandstone, chisel endstone, etc.

Will give Sandy Brick a try. I've gotten sick of sandstone builds on deserts.

>>153603830
Tc and in traincraft?
Please, I want to believe

>>153624213
That's right. They have "ran out of Game-Breaking bugs" and "finally entered Closed-Beta-Stage"

>>153624368
Is there a possibility a release comes out in a week or two, how much time do you expect to be?

>>153624728
Afraid I don't know that much. But they have been working on it pretty diligently.

>>153625221
I dont like it, but Im getting really hyped about it, just imagine all the cool things you can do with trains.

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>>153625395
I'm hyped too.

I'll post updates here whenever I see something noteworthy.

not dying just yet

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>>153622386
And now I'm not sure that Sandy Brick works well.

Have there been any new jap mods for 1.10?

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I'm trying to add a "tavern" or a "bar"-type place to my village, but it has to match the style of the vanilla villages (it looks shitty, I know). Right now I'm drawing blanks as to how to do the roof for this thing since the regular triangle stair roof would turn out comically large.

>>153632096
>wanting to match vanilla villages

but why tho

Hey /mcg/ how do I build a bridge across a mesa valley

>>153632461
I don't want it to stick out too badly.

>>153632495
>doesn't provide a picture so we can see the terrain you're working with
With blocks generally is a good start.

In 1.10, what kind of ways are there to sort items into an inventory based on what items are already there?

ExU2 doesn't seem to have sorting pipes, I know about blood magic, but that might take a bit to get into

enderio has something that could work

I am still curious if there's other options though.

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>>153633116
it looks like this

>>153633413
With how shit everything in that picture already looks a 1 block wide dirt bridge across wouldn't do any harm.

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What's wrong with the people on the Forge forums and chat? Why are they such fucking pussies? They don't agree with Lex but they do his insane demands anyway. They're all just as bad as him.

Look at how scared Lex is of ASM and coremods though. Fucking terrified that someone can take his power and money away. What a cunt.

>>153634363
your face looks like shit

>>153634653
>They don't agree with Lex but they do his insane demands anyway.
They get banned otherwise. tterrag just did 3 days ago.

Anyhow, the problem LexManos has with coremods is accountability - coremods can modify vanilla behaviour arbitrarily and you cannot easily check what exactly they change. This breaks expectations of said behaviour. I agree with him there - there's some modders you can ask around for horror stories with CoFHCore's vanilla-behaviour-breaking, completely undocumented changes, for example.

Fabric, for that reason, doesn't have coremods in the traditional "take a class and output a new class" sense - it has mixins, which let you inject, patch and/or overwrite specific functions in the Minecraft codebase, as well as add new fields and functions. This adds a sort of contract and will let us list, with high precision, what changes have been done to which parts of vanilla in the crashlog directly. Combined with automatic dependency resolution, it should hopefully make the coremod compatibility issue much less of a concern.

I still fear some modders will abuse it and cause conflicts, though. It's still a valid concern.

>>153612003
>you constantly absolve yourself of everything you fuck up.
No, it's just that you assume everyone else should have the same goals you do and that if they don't, they are to blame for it. Why don't you go and change the world instead?

>>153612121
>and make sure to fuck shit up enough that they can't go on without you. clever.
In no case have I done that. BuildCraft, BTM, NOVA, Charset all went just fine without me - in fact, I was becoming a roadblock in NOVA due to the inability to keep up with the rapid pace of development at the time.

As I said, why do you expect me to have the same ideals as you?

(cont.)

>>153612131
>How does this process happen within Fabric?

The initial plan was to have @Init be for registering a mod's event handlers (on two buses: the event bus, which separates each event into its own hookchain, and the loading bus, which doesn't and lets you depend on multiple hooks - as well as restart every time one of the hooks is later refreshed to update data). Then, you would do something like this:

>Fabric.getLoadingBus().subscribe(this);

in init(), and (if you have fabric-registry installed/dependent on):

>@Hook(name = "fabric-registry-test:registerBlocks", before = {}, after = {"fabric:registerBlocks"})
>public void onBlockRegistration() {
> Registries.register(TESTBLOCK_1_ID, testBlockTwo = new BlockTest(1));
>}

in the same class. If you wanted to register recipes, you'd have an analogous hook. If you wanted to query registered blocks and items, you'd probably simply wait on both events - but the before/after split of registration events is not quite there yet, it still has to be properly designed (add a "postRegisterBlocks", for instance).

However, this is likely going to change at least partially - since we enforce Java 8, it might be wiser to use lambdas over annotation magic for code clarity purposes. We're still discussing it.

>How much "centralization" are you going to do?
It's a hard question. Generally, the only parts we will enforce to be present once are parts which have to be - mostly patches for vanilla's insanities, like not checking for "instanceof BlockRailBase" in BlockRailBase.isRail(state). There will probably also be a "default distribution" which has additional modules - for the registry/network/etc. stuff you know and love - but some of the modules will be lazy-loaded, so if no mods in your pack depend on them they won't be loaded and they won't bloat up your instance, hopefully.

(cont.)

>>153612131
>by this I mean things like OreDictionary.
Oh. Right. We are still debating that, and got the world-class expert in ore dictionaries Gregorious Technicities to tell us about his experiences with sorting massive amounts of items. Generally, we're aiming for a tagging system ("type.ingot", "material.metal.iron") with a querying system over a dictionary, as the tagging system gives more flexibility for actually lookup items up, as well as their relations to each other, while it also has no false promises of "items being completely equal" (which is rarely actually true) unlike the dictionary. We are also debating integrating it with a general property system.

>this also I guess is a good time to bring up how you are handling rendering, if at all?
The default distribution of Fabric will only have hooks in it, to keep the thing lightweight. However, proper dependency resolution (which is also being debated, but will most likely be automatic download of "trusted" dependency JARs, and manual download of "untrusted" ones - the meaning of "trusted" is yet to be decided) will let you make proper helper libraries other modders can depend on in a modular manner, instead of throwing everything into one JAR and hoping there's no conflicts.

Loading .objs would, in this case, be handled by another module which you would pull in. Fabric would provide the necessary hooks for loading custom model files only.

>I don't know anything about how JSON took over textures and models in 1.8+ but if its simpler than agonizing over OpenGL that's fine with me.
Generally, the 1.8+ system is much less hardcoded and easier to hook into, however Forge made a bit of a second system effect of it.

>buildcraft port/clone for fabric y/n
I am no longer involved with that. However, I want to port some things from Charset.

>>153637364
>the meaning of "trusted" is yet to be decided
To elaborate: Even though we're fully aware the current system of downloading JARs from hopefully not that shady websites is broken, we cannot put a potentially more broken one into the core as we don't want to be responsible for breaking user security. Sadly, we haven't yet discussed this problem in detail, but we want sane automatic dependency resolution for mods.

>>153612003
Also, to make your argument completely pointless:

>certain voices going on about sticking with forge
For its entire lifetime, NOVA was a wrapper ON TOP OF FORGE. In fact, it wasn't meant to ever change that UNLESS IT WAS NECESSARY, as NOVA's scope was NEVER to hook Minecraft itself or replace existing mod loaders.

I'm having crashes on my custom modpack when my inventory is full and I missclick on NEI, so it tries to give me items, and then crashes
Any ideas ?

>>153638295
Disable NEI's cheat mode.

>>153638379
I use it for basics items for convenience
Like now that I've a shitton of cobble, I don't want to go back through my whole base to get 3 miserables stacks of cobble

>>153638605
Then make a chest and deposit your shit inside of it before cheating new items in.

>>153638605
>doesn't have something like a blackhole talisman for picking up the thousands of cobble from mining to draw from

>>153598018
Couldn't you hook up an ME system that connect to all the buildings eventually so you can craft with anything from anywhere?

>>153633413
>That draw distance

>>153641449
>AE
Takes the fun out of things IMO, and makes them too easy
I just setup a bunch of forestry worktables instead :^)

>>153641735
>Takes the fun out of things IMO, and makes them too easy
I can definitely respect this mindset, I'm just not used to seeing it in /mcg/. Good on you, man.

>>153641735
logistics pipes is at least funier to setup

>page 10

Hey guys, I remember in BuildCraft I could pump lava from the Nether for power - how do I do that in Thermal Expansion or MineFactory Reloaded? If that's not an option what do you recommend?

>>153646321
>what do you recommend
Using BuildCraft.

>>153646321
http://teamcofh.com/docs/thermal-expansion/machines/magma-crucible/

Needs power though

haha you're fucked

>watching boring af ic2 direwolf video
>he places a block and his whole build blows up

how is this a fun mechanic again?

>>153647589
>wrench a machine wrong
>only get the casing back

>>153646668
I'm not sure, but I think the total output is positive
Like the magma crucible uses 40rf/tic and the magmatic dynamo generates 80RF/tic or someting like that

>>153596636
No, they are not.

>>153632096
use slabs, it makes the roof half as tall.

is there ever a point where the chaos guardian doesnt just kill you instantly
i have last stand and half upgraded draconic armor, but if I get caught in a barrage i'm just dead

page 1010

>>153637609
>wrapper on top of forge
which is a cute claim for something that was alledged to be a multi-game thing. because forge is specific to one game.

nevermind that lex was still ready to go thermonuclear over it, and you still fell all over yourself to kiss his ass to make him shut up.

you're not going to live it down, just fuck off already you hypocritical twat.

>>153601740
What is the name of this mod? I know a fair bit of lua and it looks like it would be very helpful.

>>153654917
OpenComputers

>>153653940
Stop bullying asie. His "kissing Lex's ass" was born out of a desire to not be a dick to a depressed loser (Lex).

ded thred

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AAAAH HA!!! Had to dig down to Y22, but I finally found the fucker that kept spawning furious zombies near my base.

>>153651195
yes. when you have ~3000 levels of experience and Last Stand.


>>153637140
so Fabric cut in up into packages; you get the parts you need for the mod you want to make. makes sense.
I like less bloat, less bloat is good.

>>153637364
>everything
ok!

the buildcraft port/clone was in jest. though if someone makes a tube/pipe mod for Fabric it should be called CLANG

>>153637534
without developing an entire security suite there's not much you can do to ensure what you get is what you're looking for.
I'm not sure how simple putting in hashing would be but you could have a manifest embedded in the core of Fabric that you hash downloaded dependencies against for integrity. it wouldn't be perfect but it'd be something.
of course you'd have to hash every single possible dependency (every mod ever developed for Fabric and all its own modules) which is insane

if you REALLY want secure downloads and stuff like that you'd need a server, a signed cert, a way to handle key pairs and decryption, and all that shit. it all would require its own infrastructure. oh and this server has to be protected from intrusion at some point

>>153654917
Yeah as the other anon said it's OpenComputers.

If you just wanna fire up a computer and be done with you could also use Computercraft.
But imo it's too easy, the damn things don't even require power.

OpenComputers has some microcrafting which I dread if done excessively (fuck you IC2), but it's very managable. You'll be able to swap out CPU, GPU, etc. as you please. Bretty awesome mod overall

>>153647589
with old IC2 it was actually kind of fun because there was less of everything and little to no tedium, so that was okay like five years ago. and it made sense that if you put too much power into a machine it would explode.

>>153648319
that however was always irritating. there's no way to know about that UNLESS you look at a wiki ahead of time or are informed somehow. its a meta-gotcha.

>>153658290
personal note on automatic dependency downloads; I don't like it on principle because an automatic thing I have no control over. but if there's a yes/no box before it does something then its okay, because I've said its okay.

>>153653940
>which is a cute claim for something that was alledged to be a multi-game thing.
Which never turned out to be true. Beyond Terasology and Starmade, nothing else really targetted the JVM, and out of those two only Terasology could realistically get support for it.

Effectively, the Minecraft wrapper of NOVA at least was never planning to ditch Forge, as we couldn't be bothered to maintain both an abstraction layer and low-level hooks at the same time.

>nevermind that lex was still ready to go thermonuclear over it
Not over NOVA. He was only angry we coremodded Forge against his wishes, and he goes thermonuclear on anyone who supports coremods at all - he just banned tterrag for saying coremods are sometimes necessary.

>and you still fell all over yourself to kiss his ass to make him shut up.
He approached me with an apology that sounded genuine, and I had no reason to believe he would consider it null and void after it quiets down at the time. Besides, the NOVA team did not want to destroy Lex - all we wanted to do is be able to use Java 8 classes in a Forge mod, which was added shortly thereafter (like, a few days to a week from when the drama ended).

>you're not going to live it down, just fuck off already you hypocritical twat.
Why do you care about me if my mere existence makes you go thermonuclear? Why can't you just ignore my work? Why do you feel the need to constantly bait me, like you have been for the last 1.5 years? Do you get enjoyment out of it? If so, I guess I'm glad I could make your life a tiny bit better and more enjoyable. If not, why do you keep doing it?

>>153658290
>I'm not sure how simple putting in hashing would be but you could have a manifest embedded in the core of Fabric that you hash downloaded dependencies against for integrity. it wouldn't be perfect but it'd be something.
That was my original plan, but you cannot trust that a modder's provided hashes are secure at all - think about shadier mod hosting sites, they could just make the mod provide dependencies with higher versions than originals and its own hashes.

As for the infrastructure, all you really need is to sign all the files in the JAR with a modder's public key and, on download, verify if said signatures are valid. There's many public services of handling keypairs and matching them to users as well, like Keybase. The only problem is the definition of "trusted certificate" vs. "untrusted certificate" - and leaving it to users is not enough as most would prob. blindly click "Trust" on every request.

>>153658786
Sure, we could do that. The idea was for the initial download to be automatic, but future updates to be manual. We could add an infobox before the initial download as well.

>trying to figure out if I can get dense ores and strata to play nicely together
I'll just need a decent custom ore gen setting after that, but fuck, I really don't want to deal with the COG configs
Is there an easier way to set that up properly, with things like biome weighting?

>>153659728
>>which is a cute claim for something that was alledged to be a multi-game thing.
To elaborate: The theoretical possibility was there, but in practice, it was never implemented. The multi-version bit was - we had the same mods running in 1.7.10 and 1.8.

>Effectively, the Minecraft wrapper of NOVA at least was never planning to ditch Forge
Unless a noticeable chunk of the community moved to another solution with all the necessary features, making it viable for us to support it as another wrapper. As far as I know, however, Meddle doesn't have them anyway and neither does M3L, making that point just as void.

so i'm standing at the bottom of my sky factory 2.5 mob spawner, which is just a generic long shaft and they die when they hit the bottom
for some reason, with the spawner off, i'm just gaining a level a second from apparently nothing
i'm guessing this has something to do with the awakened item dislocator i have, but i'm curious where it's drawing all these levels from

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I guess I have to save the day again.
Gimme some mods to fuck with.

>>153660545
world edit
Wolrd paint
mc edit
fucking building wands
omg just use something other than doing it manually

>>153660645
his form of autism is just too advanced for /mcg/

>>153660645
No, nigga. Stuff that adds mobs, or weapons, or new stuff like blocks and shit.

>>153660808
world edit
Wolrd paint
mc edit
fucking building wands

>>153661192
I'm gonna let the thread die.

>>153660808
B U I L D C R A F T

I'm just barely smart enough to set up partial automation, but rarely full automation. Whatever. I just need a shitton of wood for a thing so this is good enough.

>>153661349
Don't go out of your way to save the thread. It's really not worth the effort.

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>>153661601
Forgot my shitty picture because I'm drunk.

>>153659850
ah yes, #-minecraft.dl, the source of all your unwanted keyloggers and trojans.
Since Curse controls basically all mod DLs for Forge there could be a repository like that which collates all downloads and make a point that users should download mods from there or from the mod author's Github releases page and download from nowhere else.

trusted certs would have to be a system strong enough on its own to not require user input or have the question for input be structured in a way that gets the point across while being concise enough joe shmo will understand the thing.


pls do infobox. A 'hey I'm getting <this package> from here: <place>' would suffice.


>>153660042
if you find COG too much, try CoFHcore's oregen. There's likely to be more available examples and information with that than COG.

>>153660545
>>153660808
Matter Overdrive
Electrical Age
RotaryCraft ( + ReactorCraft)
OpenComputers

Enjoy your CLANG.

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Also, if you want to get rid of LexManos, you'll have to get rid of Mojang first.

https://github.com/Mojang/LegacyLauncher/pull/13

>>153660545
are you manually placing ores and the decorative blocks

you absolute madman

>>153661974
Yes.

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>NEI being a little shit and greying everything out, yet still working
Any suggestions? Will post mod list in a sec

>>153661920
lol i was watching this drama on twitter, i think fyber wants to throttle lex and grum both

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>>153662373
[modpack in progress] +my 4 or so custom resource packs to fix various things

>>153662572
Jesus christ that's the biggest kitchen sink I've ever seen

>>153662748
Eh, it'll probably get trimmed a bit as I keep testing stuff. I just don't feel like re-enabling mods 1-by-1 right now to find the issue

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>>153661920
You forgot the important bit.

>>153661845
You forgot the Flamingo mod.

:^)

>>153660645
not him but building sky islands like that can be fun. I remember spending about a month or two doing that back in 1.5

>>153663775
>lex hasn't written any of launchwrapper's code
>lex has authority of the repo

u wat mojang

>you will never harass lex into ackbaring all over curse hq, mailing mojang and microsoft anthrax, and fixing all of minecraft in one fell swoop

>>153665265
I love how every single aspect of this fucking game is handled by the most incompetent people possible.

>>153665795
>KEEN unfucks itself by gassing marek
>mojang still screwed
never thought I'd see the day when spengies becomes less fug than minecraft

>>153665957
Fun fact: I have /mcg/ and /egg/ open at the same time and this post made me confused about which one I was in.

>>153667501
:^)

>>153598018
A E S T H E T I C S

Anyone have thoughts on Skript? I really like it personally.

>>153667537
post yfw no more scratches on glass

>>153657954
lol. You going to convert him into something else?

>>153661920
I am not familiar with a lot of things minecraft mod related since I've generally played vanilla for years (with the exception of Thaumcraft which I had played and finished last month). Can anyone explain what has happened here? I did a search and it looks like he's related to Forge somehow.

Also, reccomend me some mods to play through for Minecraft? I really liked Thaumcraft.

>>153668456
stuff relating to the way that forge patches and tweaks the game I think.
If you liked thaumcraft, try some of its addons, gadomancy, automagy, thaumic tinkerer with some of the cancer disabled, thaumic horizons, thaumic bases, etc.
But TC is a relatively complex mod, what parts of it did you like specifically?

How do we make this thread not so goddamn dead?

>>153668456
>Also, reccomend me some mods to play through for Minecraft? I really liked Thaumcraft.
Other mods with an in-game manual, heavy progression elements, and really pretty graphics include:

Immersive Engineering
Botania
Psi
RotaryCraft
Flaxbeard's Steam Power
MatterOverdrive (I think it has an in-game manual?)

>>153668846
>Botania
>Psi
10$ somebody gonna sperg about it in a couple of minutes

>>153668916
inb4
>Vazkii
>she

>>153668916
Reality is that those mods are more personal taste, flowerfag is an okish coder, just a cancerous person.
Rotarycraft is not.
Breaking your game to render stuff in 3d, it's laggy as shit, etc.

>>153669023
I actually didn't notice the Rotarycraft mention in your post

This is what Vazkiiposting has made me, tell me I asked for this

>>153668846
>Reika
>Vazkii
You wanna get cancer? Because thats how you get cancer

>>153668163
I just needed to clear the Eerie biome that was coming off of that node. I have a crate full of other jared nodes, sinisters included. I'll probably just use them to make a Furious Zombie grinder.

>>153668969
Who even cares.

>>153670186
I heard YUNoMakeGoodMap is a decent mod... A certain nice fellow by the name of "LexManos" made it.

:^)

>For everyone at Pax West, join Slowpoke101 and members of the FTB team alongside @LexManos in the sphinx theatre for the panel at 1:30 today

anyone at the panel? ask lex why he doesn't cooperate with other people in the community and see if he has a massive meltdown on the stage.

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I MAY have fucked something up during world generation.

>>153673729
>that feel when you swim in spicy nacho velveeta cheese sauce

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This is a much better spawn.

>>153673729
What did you do to be able to actually see when swimming in lava/water?

>>153674045
LENS FLARE

>>153674314
Creative mode with shaders.

>>153592727
What's the go to patch for mods currently?

>>153673056
I wish...

are Spigot and Bukkit the same thing? like,

https://github.com/MCTCP/TerrainControl/wiki/Version-history#tc-2-8-0

I want to use that but the later versions dont look like theyre "bukkit", they became "spigot" suddenly. would they still work?

>>153675179
Spigot used to be a fork of Bukkit with additional performance enhancements. After Bukkit got DMCA'd, Spigot devs consulted a few lawyers and found a way to keep releasing their Bukkit fork in a non-license-infringing manner, and they have taken up maintenance of Bukkit since.

>>153611974
A hole :^)

>>153675368
I wouldn't be able to use this plugin with Bukkit then, would I? I had no idea about Bukkit, and I've already got a ton of shit that's hanging off of bukkit that I don't know would be compatable with it or not.

>>153675580
oh shit nevermind, went to their bukkit page and found this line:

>"You'll always find the newest approved stable builds here. As of 2.4, the files will work on both Bukkit and Forge servers (without the need of something like MCPC+) and on singleplayer with Forge. Installation instructions can be found here."

FUG YEAR

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Now, class! Can anyone tell me what this machine does?

I want to build a fucking huge techbase but I can never settle on a modpack to use and people on servers I go to always just rush to endgame with no care for aesthetics. Halp.

>>153676638
Increase the world ticking time.

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>>153677479
>filename

>>153677781
>skyblock

Go to dick, I said I cared about aesthetics.

Although, Infinity Evolved might be a good idea.

>>153656170
>"bullying" a hypocritical twat being wrong
>pampering a piece of shit like lex not being wrong
>>>/out/

>>153677781
what the fuck am I even looking at

>>153677479
I just use FTB IE. Yeah whatever Curse are jews, I don't care, I just want to play my autism mods without worrying about making sure everything works.

I'm in the process of building a huge base myself in SSP, though its probably less techy than you'd hope. Its about 8 chunks in area and will extended from bedrock to sky limit. Bedrock level is my treefarm and boilers to produce enough energy for the complex, and will probably move my animal farms down there. Ground floor is Applied Energistics Central, along with empty space for I'm not sure what yet. Below that is a mass complex of coke ovens, buildcraft pipes, and thaumcraft golems turning logs into charcoal and creosote to be burned in my basement boilers. Railcraft tanks and TiCon smelteries are also on this level. Below that is my mining nexus and ore processing plant. Then theres still a few unused subterranean floors that I plan on utilizing. Then above the ground floor is firstly my Thaumcraft base of operations, though thats still a WIP. I have quite a few floors to finish building (and the roof so I can set up solar panels and apiaries), each floor is about 9 blocks high, and the whole thing is made up of Chisel Cobblestone Bricks and Purpled Fantasy Blocks.

Don't know why I bothered to type this out. Just empathize with your yuuge building dreams.

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I'm updating my chunkworld map atm. Cleaning up some of the boring buildings.

Pic related: Among many others, the medieval watchtower and brick buildings got an overhaul...

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>>153679937

Also desinged a cute little dojo while I'm at it :3

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>>153680126
In-game screencap

>>153680126
cute

>>153678513
>I just want to play my autism mods without worrying about making sure everything works.
That's exactly why you shouldn't be playing IE,
configs are all a mess, shitty bloat mods, jew useless shit like FTBtweaks, But wtv, if ppl dont wanna be swayed they just wont. Just dont impose your shitty preferences unto others.

>>153680653
>That's exactly why you shouldn't be playing IE,
>configs are all a mess, shitty bloat mods, jew useless shit like FTBtweaks
I like how whenever someone tries to shit on IE they start off sounding semi-reasonable before devolving into chimp-speak.

>But wtv, if ppl dont wanna
Lol holy shit faggot just kill yourself. Do mobile posters seriously think this is an ok way to talk?

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>>153620242
Just replace the acacia wood with clay, brick or sandstone...

>>153681365
But wtv, if ppl dont wanna be swayed they just wont.

>>153681365
>too stupid to make your own modpack
>makes fun of the other anon for being too stupid to speak correctly
oh the irony

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>>153620242
This is more of a saloon/shop building. Simple, but effective!

>>153681783
i'm not really convinced by the wool

have you tried with stairs (on two lines) or a flat slab line?

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>try a new modpack
>start a Garden of Glass world
>see these

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>>153681748
>implying making a modpack isn't easy as piss
>implying you know what irony means

>>153680653
I'm the one you responded to, not the other one, and I just gotta say I've never had a problem with IE. Runs fine, occasional lag spikes but I'm also running it off of a mid-end laptop that occasionally had trouble with vanilla minecraft. And restarting it fixes it every time. Am I missing something on why I shouldn't be playing IE?

>>153683893
it is easy as piss, that's why you'd have to be really stupid to push your applefag it just werks attitude.

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>>153684042
What an ironic thing say.

Really though, what the fuck are you trying to say with that mangled string of buzzwords.

>>153683968
Tons of bloat mods that you either never gonna use or just cause lag for the sake of it.
Using IE as a platform to try stuff out is OK.
But once you get the hang of changing mods, adding and tweaking configs then you should just start from scratch.
all the FTB utilities mods are garbage, add nothign but bloat.
Growthcraft over Pam's, always.
JABBA is lag shit, consider better storage or storage drawers.
And so on and so forth, you learn and you start getting yourself away from the badly put together mess that FTB packs are

>>153684257
you're a either really bad at baiting or a person who came in halfway through their argument who mistook ie for immersive engineering when it was clear they were talking about infinity expert.

>>153684257
>FtBfags
He's saying that FtB does not dedicate nearly enough time — frankly I doubt they dedicate any — to bugfixing, configuration, and testing.
Furthermore, their modpacks tend to have way too many mods. Normally this could be brushed off as >bloat, however, they often have two mods that do almost the exact same thing.
They also have "custom" utility mods they shove in packs which do absolutely nothing good.

On top of that, because of the way they do things, should you have a problem, it's often not easy to fix.

On the other hand, if you assemble your own pack, get to know it in and out, and test and config it thoroughly, you probably won't have any of these problems.

>>153684630
Oh, also as >>153684365 mentioned, they make poor choices in mod decision, choosing mods made by modders they like or aprove of rather than alternatives that are actually good.

>>153668456
>Thaumcraft which I had played and finished last month
what do you mean finished?

I'm on 1.8 but a mod I want says it requires 1.8.9

Does it actually? Is 1.8-1.8.9 not just bug fixes?

>>153688497
Not at all. 1.8.8->1.8.9 is, but 1.8->1.8.8 has a fair bit of breaking changes both in vanilla and Forge.

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guys I'm playing Twilight Forest, and there's this random spot near a tree and a ravine that makes terrifying gasping whisper sounds and tosses fireballs at me. I can't tell what the fuck it is. Anyone know?

I guess it could be something from another mod in the pack but the closest thing it sounds like is blazes and blazes aren't invisible.

>>153689438
sounds like one of those thermal foundation blaze variants.

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>install forge for 1.8.9
>nothing but errors
>forge for 1.7.10 still works

lads help

>>153691095
why?
not even "lol don't go past 1.7.10", but 1.8.9 is the shittest version out of 1.8/1.9/1.10
also use fucking multimc

>>153691316
Because it's the latest version for ComputerCraft, unless I can't read for shit

Did I miss some DRAMMMA?

>>153691517
well then use 1.7.10
1.8.9 is the skip version.
Opencomputers is better utility wise, anyways, I think.
Definitely not recipe wise.

>>153691517
1.9.4 has a beta on the ComputerCraft forums, use that.

>>153691559
Yes, LexManos locked a FyberOptic PR on a Mojang project

>>153691795
Why does LexManos have power over a Mojang project?

>>153691795
Saw that, also saw many reports of bugs so I thought I'd just stick with the regular ones.

Are there still any big problems or have they been smoothed out?

>>153692013
Because the Launchwrapper was co-written by cpw and grum.

>>153692573
No idea, I just use OpenComputers.

>>153689830
Those are visible though; I've seen them. And it doesn't despawn.

>>153676638
crashes this server with no survivors?

>>153678513
pics pls

bumb

Buildcraft for 1.10 when?

>>153697018
AlexIIL and afdw are still working on it, but as they decided to rewrite the BuildCraft codebase over licensing and quality issues, it will still take months.

>>153693119
yeah but what does cpw writing it have to do with lex

>>153697474
cpw and LexManos work very closely together. They always have been.

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>>153697826
I get it.

>>153697556
are you doing this in creative or survival?

>>153698294
Both.

>>153698365
Explain you are self

>>153698919
TMI

>>153697826
>Yes, LexManos locked a FyberOptic PR on a Mojang project

I think LexManos lives close to CPW in real life and can walk over and bully him if he does something Lex doesn't like, I think.

>>153700947
>implying lex does much walking
>implying lex leaves his trailer for any reason than food and paid trips to pax and minecon for the free food

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Anon, the eternal question:
1.7.10 or a later version?

Is there an easier way to grow a thaumcraft node other than putting hundreds of smaller nodes next to it, without beeeeeeeeeeeeeess?

>>153701758
DEPENDNG ON WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH JUST PLAY WHATEVER THE FUCK IT PLEASE YOUR DICK GOD FUCKING DAMNIT YOU DONT HAVE TO WAIT FOR MCG APPROVAL TO PLAY SOMETHING JUST HOW STUPID ARE YOU.
Not mad, just tired of this shit every thread.

>>153702271
>APPROVAL
You misunderstand me.

I'm indecisive on what I want and am seeking a tiebreaker, preferably in the form of "well, <cool mod> is on <version> so play that!"

>>153702221
THorizons node linker, or that thing you put on the side of energised nodes to boost the output? Convert it to a hungry node with TBases or that TC/IE compat mod, and feed it for a while?

>>153702501
uh...Gadomancy is on 1.7? that's pretty neat.

>>153702501
Oh, I thought it was another baiting and derailing (of ded) question, in that case 1.9/1.10 has some of the Vazkii mods (havent tried and ignore that Vazkii is a shit), Chisel and Bits and also reddit and forgefags are doing everything they can to kill 1.7.10 so new mods come really often to 1.10.2.

On the other hand 1.7 has 1k+ mods with a lot of variation to choose. I personally prefer 1.7 as it also performs better but if I were you I would try an older version.

>>153703906
>On the other hand 1.7 has 1k+ mods with a lot of variation to choose. I personally prefer 1.7 as it also performs better but if I were you I would try an older version.
Yeah that's fair.

I'm pretty sure 1.9 and 1.10 still have shit-all for tech.

>>153702271
So you're mad.

>>153705609
At first I was but the madness left at the middle of writing that. Just that its annoying to see the same old shit and questions every single thread you know?

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>applemilk&tea2 has comparability with an economy mod
>the addon allows for purchasing of energy through a "magic space" box that you purchase cards and use them through
>the key item when placed instantly crashes the game

Despair

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>server introduced a whitelist

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>>153706036
>gooks made an economy mod
Of course they did. Why can't we have nice things, /mcg/? Why do the Japs get all the nice things?

What are the best Applied Energistics 2 addons?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3hf31pQu6E&t=29m38s
>IC2

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I love it whenever a skeleton fights a skeleton.

>>153709515
>wireless inventory panel
Is that from Ender IO?! Fucking how?!

>>153709721
How did you achieve this? For some reason, I had no idea this was possible.

>>153701758
1.7.10. 1.10 has some new mods and changes to old mods (like Blood Magic and Extra Utils getting even grindier) but they aren't worth abandoning everything 1.7.10 still has over it.

>>153710094
You just trick 1 skeleton into shooting at another skeleton. Skeleton 2 aggros skeleton 1 and shoots it, forcing skeleton 1 to aggro skeleton 2. Happens all the time when fighting skeletons in tight quarters.

>>153709721
>something something textures shit taste something something noses

>>153710094
>stand in between two skeletons
>dodge arrow
>hits one
>that skeleton now wants to fug up the day of the other one
>they get in a fight

>>153710275
> shit textures
What? >>153709721 looks alright to me.

>>153710354
something something taste not textures something something guy's a cunt something something child labor
Specifics start thread killing shitposting by this one retard. The less said about things that trigger him the better.

>>153710354

Probably the same autist who has a thing out for anyone who chooses to use Sphax PureBDcraft instead of his shitty pixelated Medieval packs.

>>153710354
Irrational hatred for Shpax textures is a very old /mcg/ meme.

>>153710806
but it really does look like shit

>>153709721
Why does that texture pack looks different?

It looks like Sphax, but at the same time, doesn't.

>>153710854
Not really, there are definitely other packs out there that deserve the title of 'shit'. Like John Smith Legacy for instance.

STOP TRYING TO KILL THE THREAD LIKE THE LAST ONE
ITS EVEN MORE DANGEROUS NOW BECAUSE BURGS HAVE HOLIDAY
sshhh

>>153710905
It's probably the Vanilla pack.

>>153710854
> stop liking what I dislike

>>153711045
>John Smith
It looks better tho, its ok to have opinions anon, even if they are bad but dont say shiet.

>>153711193
John Smith is the kind of pack that autists who play Dwarf Fortress say is quality graphics making. True facts.

>>153711152
What the fuck are you on about, spergtard. If you don't want the thread to die, post some actual content.

>>153711193
Upgrade to Oro's Rustic.

Is there a way to automatically skip nights? I want to speed up my bees while I afk and nocturnal is a ways away.

>>153711458
I actually use Pixel Perfection, but I like JS better than Sphax.

>>153711561
Draconic furfaglution has a thing which when powered by redstone accelerates the day night cycle. Rig it up with a daylight sensor or something
Or use one of the easymodo beenetics mods to make them both dinural and nocturnal

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>>153711581
Why do you prefer the Nintendo looking packs?

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>>153711729
>seriously recommending someone use Dragon Dildolotion

>>153712008
Why do you prefer packs that, to me,look like a children's cartoon?
Why does /d/ like their women with benises?
Why does /po/ hate jews?
Why does /qa/ still have a problem with horsefuckers who keep trying to get global rule 15 repealed and anime banned?
Why is saucenao not a built in imagesearcher?
Why are saucefags not banned on sight?
There are some questions not worth considering

>>153712008
Sphax looks childish, more tan other pack and PP is 16x which blends with mods better.

>2016
>people still can't build for shit
baka

>>153712469
Why do you feel the need to fuel your addiction with mods?

>>153712250
Why do you think I play children's games?

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This is kind of a neat resource pack. It kind of reminds me of something the Yogscast would use.

>>153712786
Why do you feel the need to shitpost about completely subjective personal taste in a thread mostly dedicated to modded minecraft?
Are you from /kspg/?
It sounds like you are.
The mods hate /kspg/

>>153712250
>Why do you prefer packs that, to me,look like a children's cartoon?
You are aware that you're currently playing a game intended for children, yes?

>>153713065
Every time they're mentioned thread descends into people with an irrational hatred of them and underage b& who cannot take honest criticism.

Their early content was good, but once they started pandering to children they got worse.
Apparently they're better now.
However the less said about them the better.

>>153713218
> Stop liking what I dislike.
Kys.

>>153713065
Lewis and Simon sometimes seem like a lot of what they do is pandering, but they're okay sometimes and the banter is occasionally good. Their old content was pretty great, though. Sips is based, but I don't remember the last time I saw him do minecraft. Sjin is fun to watch and I always loved watching Feed the World 1, it was comfy. Don't really watch enough of the other guys stuff to give opinions.

>>153713169
I'm playing a game that was made by a swede for fun.
A game that I am free to play in whatever manner I wish, in whatever way I wish, without the interference of others.
>>>/trash/
Fuck off to where you belong /kspg/ tier dramaposting retard

>>153713065
Watched their whole "to the moon" series or whatever it was called. Very comfy to listen/watch. But other than that, haven't watched anything of theirs.

I watch Sips all the time, but nothing MC related.

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>>153713065
I personally think they are definitely a YouTube staple worth checking out. Most of their haters tend to be sad fedora wearing neckbeards like >>153713218 who think just because someone's audience consists of children means that is their target demographic despite the fact there is mature themes and profanity in almost ALL of their content.

>>153713475
>I'm playing a game that was made by a swede for fun.
That happens to have a massive following of children.

>>153713308
>what are your opinions on this thing
>mention that the topic tends to be increadibly polarized and descend into mindless unproductive shitflinging
>offer honest completely subjective opinion that, to me, they used to be good, but I stopped liking them after their production values changed, and that they may have switched back to older ones
Is it necessary to put a disclaimer that other people are free to think what they like about whatever it is on every post now?

>>153713772
You seem perturbed.

>>153713663
Point being what exactly? Unless you have an actual point to make, you're just trying to kill the thread.
Now kindly go back to eating snake shit and sucking cat dick where you belong /kspg/ scum.
>>>/trash/

>>153713562
>same filename and picture as one of the guys whose shitposting killed the last thread
fug, we're screwed

Whatever happened to that one tranny with the concentration camp fetish? I miss her. ;_;

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Progress.

>>153714046
I, as an autonomous individual, with my completely subjective tastes and opinions, choose to dislike sphax.
You can like it if you want. I, who have no bearing or relevency towards how you feel about it, am also free to criticize and list my criticisms about it.
You are also free to respond. However, you are not free to destroy threads with completely irrelevant bullshit because someone has different taste than you and they do not happen to like your taste, which is what you, and possibly others, did last thread, causing it to die.

Minecraft, despite having an audiance demographically comprised of mostly children at this time, did not start out as a childrens game.
As a completely autonomous human being with my own tastes and preferences, along with my own idiosyncrasies and nuances, am free to be apparently hypocritical in my taste — what may seem hypocritical to another completely autonomous and independent human being may not seem hypocritical to me.

Basically, fuck off you retard tier shitposter.

>>153714589
What may appear to be hypocritical values to you, may not to me.
It is entirely subjective.

FUCK OFF

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>>153714484
It's like you expect me to read that. Here, have some London circa 1666.

>>153715029
Thank you.
Is nice.
Is basically an autistic long winded way of just saying that taste is subjective and people who have problem with that need to fuck off.
I'm so tired of
>entitled
>childish
etc.
I just want threads to be comfy.

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Does anyone here play on Prison servers? They're actually a pretty comforting experience that actually feels constraining.

>>153715223
I never really understood them, care to explain what they are?

>>153715352
I'm not the first faggot you were arging with, your posting style is obvious, and you need to die in an extremely painful way.

>>153715347
It's a server for autists like >>153715223. It's possibly more autistic than /mcg/.

>>153715379
>still using Technic
>2016

>>153715429
Nice excuse, faggot; I can tell by your text voice.

>>153715429
>Because posters cannot have similar posting styles.
It's called proper grammar and spelling.

>>153715594
Having proper spelling and grammer is different from linguistic conventions and habits.
Nice try though.
You also happened to use the same images with the same filenames.

>>153715660
Also at around the same time of day.

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>>153715660
lul

>>153715660
I'm just pointing out that you're attempt to read somebody's text voice is futile as unless you specifically know what the person does then you'll never know for sure. You'll only be making false accusations. The poster in this thread could be a copycat shitposter from the last one.

>>153715782
Let's impersonate everybody in this thread!