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/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

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Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, September 1st:
717 – Siege of Constantinople: The Muslim armada with 1,800 ships, is defeated by the Byzantine navy through the use of Greek fire.
1449 – Tumu Crisis: Mongols capture the Emperor of China.
1715 – King Louis XIV of France dies after a reign of 72 years—the longest of any major European monarch.
1870 – Franco-Prussian War: The Battle of Sedan is fought, resulting in a decisive Prussian victory.
1914 – St. Petersburg, Russia, changes its name to Petrograd.


>News
EU4 Rights of Man DLC announced

EU4 DD18/08
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-18th-of-august-2016.963425/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!IkNwBRKR!WI_JYByFpRFzXLx3d1uD2A

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI4]Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!TVA2RByJ!tuh0k4SR5gXPLtmxsMd4KZ0at9gY5s5_oV70ui8A4B0

>>[EU4] - Expensive Warfare Mod 1.0
http://pastebin.com/gThqFi54

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.5.5 - 29/07/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V8
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

Old Thread >>153486682
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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Reminder that american isn't Anglo.
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Based Erdogan
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Reminder the liquor meme has run it's course and should die.
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>>153533527
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>>153533392
he's back boys
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>>153533568
>>153533476
yes it is
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>>153533421
>>153533215
>BIG_BENIS and mspaintfag are the same unfunny underage teenagers
That explains a lot.
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>>153533635
t. liquorlad
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>>153533616
No it isn't, you are spics
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>>153533385
Do the Election XXXX games count as Grand Strategy?
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>>153533687
lol
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I think I just have to fix some meme cultures and then I'm done unless there's non-meme formable countries I should add
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>>153533663
>liquorlad
Nah, I don't like to roleplay as a british person on the internet unlike a lot of people here.
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>>153533730
No.
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Wait is immortality actually a thing in Reaper's Due?
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>>153533818
Liquoria
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>>153533730
No.
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>>153533476
t. divide and conquer argie kraut
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>>153533828
Yes,
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>>153533754
also I think this is the FoW that was decided upon and it looks alright
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>>153533818
>another teenager trying to fit in
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>>153533902
t. hans fritz
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>>153533890
Is it a bug or what?
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>>153533931
who
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>>153533940
No.

It's the end of an event chain.
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>>153534040
What the fuck
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>>153534089
Just disable meme events
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>>153534040
based paradox
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>>153534135
Paradox is based
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>>153534089
This is why they added a toggle for supernatural events. This and the other retarded ones.
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>>153534135
>>153534163
>reddit
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>>153533801
>discord fags unironically dislike lad posting
But the liquor meme has stayed crisp for months, right, l*ds?
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>>153534213
Reddit is based
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>>153534196
>>153534113
Didn't know that. What else is there in that category?
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>>153534251
Wow, you are new here, aren't you?
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>>153534250
They're both for retarded people.

>calling it ladposting

Cringed.
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>>153534324
??
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Matrilineal marriage on or off?
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>>153534294
Gate to hell, Cthulhu, not sure if horse and talking with Jesus/Satan events are included
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>>153534404
We hate reddit and Paradox, people will laugh at you if you praise them, so don't do it.
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>>153534386
>le crange xD
t. yung turkslayer
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>>153534542
I don't get it, I thought we were supposed to hate them. That's what I've been told anyway. Was it a lie?
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>>153534624
Yes

Reddit & Paradox are based
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How about some goals for Italy in HPM?

S-P start
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>>153534801
I posted this a few threads earlier. You're welcome to attempt it.
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>>153534801
Get annexed by TroßGermaniums
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>>153534796
>>153534863
I agree. Time to join a real community like r/paradoxplaza
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>>153534902
How is taking Korea and east Borneo as Italy justified? What's the logic behind it?
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>>153534983
The same one as France and Netherlands doing so
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>>153534863
I don't have a reddit account or visit the site often, but whenever I've looked at the paradox board there, all the topics are entirely skipable novice bullshit.
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>>153534932
Based Thorposter
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>>153534863
yeah, reddit has really good discussion, free of memes.
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>>153535170
That's what they consider an intelligent post and an actual argument to support communism irl
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>>153534983
Korea has a bunch of coal, and Italy doesn't. The historical feasibility ends there, but different AI countries will occasionally do it:
>>153535030
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stop
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>>153534902
Also, North Borneo was once offered to the Italians as a penal colony.
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Is that ancient China mod for Vic2 dead?
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If you are playing Afghanistan and become Durrani empire and take all your cores you end up with like ~20% primary/accepted pops and you can't accept punjabis or anything like that. Someone didn't really think this shit out
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STOOOP
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>>153535603
If Afghanistan formed an empire in the real world, do you think the majority of their pops would accept it? Of course not.
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>>153534902
I could dig the african holdings, but hose asian holdings are questionable.

>S-P must bend over to the plebs to get South Italian as accepted now

well there goes that
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>>153535680
>>153535457
Report them. They're just shitposting.
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>>153535698
That isn't really what the accepted culture mechanic is supposed to represent though
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Why is Britain useless?
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Am I dead yet?
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>>153535993
There's no Wizstrait
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>>153535993
Which game? Asking literally, in CK2 they're not useless at all
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>>153536002
Nice shitposting, faggot.
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>>153536060
Everything but CK2. They are useless. In almost every damn war.
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>ctrl + f
>Stellaris
>no matches

The fuck?
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>say anything vaguely critical of HPM
>deleted within 3 minutes
>this shit doesn't get deleted at all
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>>153536452
Stellaris is banned newfag
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>>153534294
>>153536452
It's in the civ/4x general.
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>Start 1066
>Fast forward to year 1200, because I was ignoring France for most of that time
>An AI Karling is King of France
>By the year 1200, in a 1066 start
The Karling ride never ends

I want to get off Charlemagne's wild ride
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this some advanced cancer lads
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>>153536843
fug

You win this Based Anonymous, I am ready for my ban now
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>>153536452
>>Stellaris
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>>153536893
come on lads
don't tell me I have to samefag until 2000 characters
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>>153533754
You are missing at least 4 dutch provinces.
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>>153533754
pleb
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>>153537382
I don't know which abomination is more heretical, that mod or those borders
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Someanon on /tg/ told me to come here to discuss King of Dragon Pass. Because most of the game is spent giving direction, but not directly influencing such areas as combat and economy, is it a grand strategy game?

Are there other "small-scale" GSGs like it?
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>>>/int/64287214
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>>153537813
not paradox, fuck off
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>>153537813
>>153537864
It's in the OP, so it's allowed.
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>>153537958
>he actually follows the OP
why don't you go back to red dit kid
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>>153537813

Not much compares to KoDP sadly, shame there ain't more like it.

Be nice if the game itself had more depth, like being able build up from kingdom to empire, or actually being able to beat some of the doom attacks.
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>>153538517
Is that cop game similar?
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>>153538783
cop?
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>>153538875
Something like This Is The Police.
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Why do people hate "border gore" so much?
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>>153538929
Hadn't heard of it before. Looks interesting tho
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>>153539816
From /int/, are u lost freund?
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>>153539828

Have you no appreciation of aesthetics?
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How small can a game become before it's not a grand strategy game anymore? Like, if you consider a tribal game like King of Dragon Pass to be grand strategy, could a game about indirectly controlling a family through several generations be considered grand strategy?
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>>153540201
really makes you think
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>>153540201
truly forces one to ponder
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>>153540201
If that family controls land and has an army, sure.
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>>153539909
If it's a patchwork mess with each single country having massive gaps between counties (e.g. post-collapse HRE), sure, that's both ugly and illogical.
But sometimes autistic people go EWW BORDER GORE just because a kingdom has anyterritory it didn't have historically.
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>>153541493
Well, blobbing is a sin of its own.
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>>153542061
What's the point of playing a grand strategy video game if you're going to stick to historical borders? These games exist explicitly so you can go off the rails. You don't have to blob and take over a continent, but you could do something funky yet plausible like Danish England.
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>>153542534
that's not really blobbing tho
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>>153542534
>You don't have to blob and take over a continent, but you could do something funky yet plausible like Danish England.

That would be historically accurate, or plausible depending.
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Who /looking forward to Rights of Man here? Can't wait for new special Prussian mechanics.
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>>153543262
>Prussia
>grey
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>>153542534
>Danish England
>not Estonian Canada
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>>153543262
>>153543324
what I don't understand is why Paracucks like to stick with a dull grey when Prussian blue looks so pleasing to the eye https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_blue
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>>153536486
HPM? Isn't that the guy who deleted the pastebin?
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>>153543891
Delete this
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CK2 RIP question.
If a become norse falkyr and then immortal, i can call GHW only once?
What the fuck with blood and sweat event for immortality, cant pass it, even with savescumming.
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>>153544506
Theres a timer for crusades, not sure if it works the same
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>>153533818
vicctoria second whit modulee hysterical projecten
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>>153545181
Is that the Historical HPM Project Mod Module??
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>>153545032
Las time i played you could only call great holy war once in your lifetime.
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>>153545815
According to the wiki, you can call one once every 30 years
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>>153543373
>allowing incas and natives to blob
You're colonizing wrong, Estii
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>>153545986
Incas are white and based though
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>>153546014
>lamafuckers and quinoa-eaters
>couldn't even invent the wheel
>nor the bow
>nor the sword
>"white and based"
There are gold mines waiting to be sized by the colonial overlord.
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>playing as england
>get the event to replace the doodoo henry lancaster with the de anjou chick
>do it
>she's younger than my son
>she lives to like 75
>my son dies
>no heir
>have an option to make my daughter the heir
>do it since she has decent stats
>my daughter is 13
>i apparently had her at the age of 62
I don't even
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>>153545895
can_use_gui = {
ROOT = {
has_called_crusade = no

So no, you can call crusade only once. 30 years cd because popes die like flies.
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>>153546163
>>couldn't even invent the wheel
>>nor the bow
>>nor the sword
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>>153546295
>doubting the fertility of the french
Or she could have accepted a great-granddaughter as her own and proclaimed her the heir.
Or Johan could just be a hackfraud.
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>>153546635
She also completely usurped the Lancasters, replacing my royal line with de Anjou.
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>>153546368
That only means that you can't call a crusade if there's already one active.
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>be rank 9
>cant buy canned food and build armies
Ok
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Is there anything I'm missing for the United the Kingdoms achievement or is my savegame just fucked somehow?
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>>153547272
are there any baronies that aren't yours?
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>>153547272
Normandy and Scandinavia.
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>>153546163
How useful is the wheel in jungle/mountains even?
Even in modern day peru a pack animal is often better than a car for moving shit around.
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>>153547272
Are you playing on Ironman?
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>>153547449
Just checked and no.
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>>153547605
Nice racism
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>>153547631
>Ironmeme
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>>153547272
You don't look Irish at all
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>>153547698
You have to be playing on Ironman to get achievements, you fucking retard.
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>>153547631
Obviously.
Ironman and vanilla. I think I'm about ready to give up at this point. The save file probably got corrupted somehow and now I'm fucked over because of that.
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How do I reveal this blob of terra incognita? The others went away once surrounded by my territory, but this one is staying.
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>>153548510
Nevermind, I'm retarded. Gonna annex the Cree tribe.
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>>153533385
HPM!!!
HPM!!!

Real Brazilian Empire States when????
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I wish there was an option for the AI to simply surrender their pocketed units when their closest friendly lines are 600km away from the pocket
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>>153549562
also I have no idea what happened to the Soviet IC score, used "tag SOV" to check the pocket size.
Maybe Stalin is inventing new factories that exist on paper but not in reality?
maybe the aliens took over or sumfin
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How the hell do you use tanks and airplanes in vicky 2
I've been using 4inf/4art/1eng/1hus for all my armies so far and it's worked well so how do I incorporate tanks and planes into that?
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>>153547605
Wheels would have been useful to make cariages and chariots pulled by lamas and donkeys. It starts to become useful once you make small roads, which is entirely possible in mountainous regions.
Honestly it makes more sense for the ancient egyptians to need a lot of time to invent it since they had to deal with sand and mud mostly.
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Germoney is fine,right?
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>tfw you realize than when Victoria 3 comes out and all the normies will play it and you won't enjoy it
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So I'm playing memEUIV and the game is really pushing me towards colonization because I'm playing as Spain.
What is the actual appeal of colonies other than muh blob? Should I do it?
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What now?
Sphere Cuba?
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>>153550392
>tfw you realize that when Victoria 3 comes out it's going to have an EU4 to V3 converter for reddit meme megacampaigns
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give me a comfy country in ck2
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>>153550423
Trade money from America, more force limit, more merchants, more tarrifs
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>>153550514
Ottomans
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>>153550514
prussia
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>>153550524
I never did figure out what tariffs actually are or do in this game.
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>>153550610
It's just money that your colonial nations pay you. It should have been called taxes
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>>153550514
Objectively comfiest is 1066 Ireland I guess, but it's kinda boring.
There's some comfy countries in India too. I think one of them controls the start of the silk road, that might be comfy because free income bonus that can't get interrupted by someone else's wars.
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>>153550671
So basically colonialism is create-a-vassal for more taxes?
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>>153550743
That's what colonialism is
That and resources and military
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Should I do it?

I'm married, but my wife is just some random second cousin that the AI married before I inherited this character.
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WHAT THE FUGGG

are they working 100 hour a day shift?
did they enlist every squirrel living in Siberia for the Motherland?
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>>153550743
Only in Americas. If you colonize for example 10 provinces in Brazil or Argentina a colonial nation will form.
In Africa it won't happen, all provinces will belobg to you.
If any case, it is worth to colonize for all the trade income. Since you sit on the most profitable trade node.
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>>153549764
pls help
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>>153550997
just put thanks alone they're fucking fast

and remove cucksar, maybe change to dragoon and just put planes there
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>>153550874
should have won war ))))))
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>>153543262
>mfw you can debase your country's currency in Rights of Man
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>>153542534
Funnily enough, Danish England was not only a possibility, but a reality several times in history.

Also I feel that GS is more fun when you have a certain territorial goal in general, and then from the point you reach that goal you just play world police and find different ways at achieving domination, which is underrepresented in Grand Strategy.
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>>153552006
The dynasty and religion mapmodes are the most fun to paint
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>>153551494
war apparently ends in 46 or 47.
43 I can still occupy lands west of Urals
44 I need to clean up northern Russia north of Volga
45 I start push into Central Asia and Siberia
46 I maybe arrive at Novosibirsk
47 I hopefully cross Baikal and maybe reach Vladivostok
48 last guerillas are hunted down in Kamchatka

>quick war
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Is memer's due worth it? Is the performance fix even noticeable?
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>>153552831
>Is the performance fix even noticeable?
Yes but you'll spent most of your time reading illness related events rather than playing CK2
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Rate my zuneblob
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>>153552831
very, and you can turn off any of the shit that you dont like
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>>153553279
Have you reformed yet lad? I had MA at 44% which quickly fell back to 41%.
Your Shah is ugly as fuck, why would you breed out your superior Persian genetics with Poos?
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>>153550826
I pretty much always say yes to infidelities. Need loads of kids to appease the Reaper, now especially
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>>153554085
Not yet, the Emperor of Arabia still has some holdings in Baghdad. Only a matter of time before I can afford tons of mercenaries and defeat him.
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Will Rights of Man finally make EU4 fun?
Or is it going to make the game more annoying and add unnecessary micro bullshit like every dlc before?

The only thing I know is it will make technology less racist.
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>>153554946
It adds this https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-1st-of-september-2016.966295/

and Great Powers
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>>153554523
Personally I'm going down the route of just conquesting my neighbours until I can afford to build enough temples at once to boost me to 50%.
I couldn't push west anyway, the Abbasids got the Rise of the Shi'a which spawned a 20k doomstack and they're sitting pretty with 23k men - I'm just hoping my Grand Vizier can keep him happy enough to not declare on me.
I can't push east either, whenever I declare on an Indian ruler who isn't a child I get a 10k Hindu holy order spawn in their capital as soon as I do.
How did you manage to push all the way to Baghdad and crush the Abbasid yoke?
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>>153555307
So, more minor features that don't add anything significant to the game?
Why can't they just make a major change, like rework trade, so trade goods actually matter?
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>>153555596
Because Paradox has no idea how trade works and they'll never hire an actual economist.
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>>153533392
Fuck off back to your discordgroup
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Has anyone been banned since Parajew started spying on people yet? Or just any new information on the matter?
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>>153555689
And yet they spent hundreds of hours researching African tribal nations in 15th century.
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>>153535265
no but it's a good argument against capitalism, which is a continuation of the aristocrats oppressive system against the european peoples
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hpm update when
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>>153555952
Respectfully disagree.
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>>153556037
said the pleb who suffers under capitalism
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>>153556017
What's HPMan planning for his next update anyway?
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When will HIP update?
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>>153535170
if goods that cannot be afforded to be bought are produced, that means the supply is producing goods that are not bought, meaning there is a misallocation of resources.

say I start producing zeppelins in 2016. no one can afford them, nor is there are any real interest in buying them. obviously im wasting money and resources on producing goods for which there is no demand.
if the workers producing zeppelins cannot buy them, it is not a reason to start a communist revolution, but it is a good reason to consider stopping the making of zeppelins and reallocate the resources (money, materials, labour) to something where they make something that is in demand.

that being said V2 is a 19th century economic simulation model, and every model in itself is flawed.
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>>153537382
what mods do you have?
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>>153556093
>HPMan
It's HPM. You're making it obvious that you're a redditor who just came for the mod.

>>153556335
Why are you telling me this? I don't care.
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>>153535170
>reminder that commies have the right to vote just like everyone else
Democracy was a mistake
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How come a Papacy is controlling a bishopric in my kingdom?
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>>153556482
>you're a redditor
You're wrong
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>>153535170
nice cherry picking lad, that was the only meme post in that thread and you can simply hide it while the rest of the thread has more discussion than /gsg/ has in 2 years
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>>153550514

Great Moravia
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>>153557281
Why is this sub so full of shitposters?
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>>153556587
If it's in Benevento then that's part of the 1066 start.
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>>153557281
dumb sperg
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>>153556697
wtf i hate GSG now
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>>153557371
It's the Bishopric of Killaloe in Tuadhmhumhai, Ireland.
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Don't mind me, best country in the world coming though.
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>>153543262
>implying prussia was a military state before based bismarck
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>>153547272
You don't control all of it. There are occupied territories.
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>>153549512
>1878
>Acre

Dumb nigger
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>>153557919
>Best country in the world
>Another country's bitch
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>>153557931
It was though, in the 18th century Prussia was famous for having a ridiculous army compared to its rather backwater postition.

Friedrich Wilhelm I, father for Frederick the Great, was known for actually assembling a guard of men over a certain height called the Potsdam Giants.
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>>153531856
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>>153558263
>central germany was backwards
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>>153558263
Yeah pretty sure those faggots were literally sick and were completely useless as a combat unit.

They were more like a freakshow.
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>Play as Britain in ck2

>Portugal doesn't form
>Have to wage two wars for it to break free from Castille

>Netherlands doesn't form

>Have to fight three wars to have it break free from >H>R>E and France

>Denmark conquers pomerania and I have to fight a war to set it free

It's literally impossible to play as Anglos and not be perfidious
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Post local men who ruined everything.
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Is Brazil or USA the more comfy campaign?
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>>153558840
He literally looks like Lenin with a beard.
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>>153558552
>Play Burgundy in CK2
>Europe stabilizes with beautiful borders
>Hitler was right
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>>153558840
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>>153558840
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>>153559130
>le got reference
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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Alright lads lets do this

>The Bogomilist Bolghar count starting in the shittiest northern county with his sole quest to spread Bogomilism

Gonna cheat his ducal titles off of him and only leave him with a single undeveloped county. w-wish me luck
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>>153559130
delet this
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So as Wallachia in Vicky, should my first factory be a glass one followed by liquor distillery?
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>>153559589
Try it yourself and see what happens.
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>>153534040
>got nignog pagan priestess that wanted to help me earn immortality
>spymaster warns me about her
>i send him investigate and then confront her
>tfw she is disappointed, I fuck up some animal sacrifice and she leaves
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>>153558508
>portugal
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>>153558840
what's Sean Connery doing in Afghanistan?
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Perfect political climate
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>>153560002
It's Iran, retard.
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>>153548102
If you're sure you've earned it, just enable the achievement manually.
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>>153559751
>I thought you were responding to the Stannis post
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>>153560041
what's Sean Connery doing in Persia?
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>>153560038
t. Pierre von Hapsburg
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>>153559130
Is this show even canon anymore?
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>>153560038
>Switzerland
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>>153560274
Nope. Hasn't been in a while.
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>>153560332
Is it actually a completely different storyline now or is GRRM telling them shit from the unreleased books?
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>>153558840
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>>153555857
Didn't you know Wolof and Mali are just as important as the British and French? You damn Euroscentrics being racisss as usual.
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>>153560486
He's telling them shit but D&D fucked up over half of the season anyway.
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Russian Africa is coming along well
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>>153555857
No they don't, they just find some random map after googling something very generic, spend half an hour making shit up, spend a couple of days programming said shit and sell it for a full, independent game's price.
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>>153560667
Is it worth it?
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>>153560941
Yeah, get a whole new country worth of russians to work in my factories with new land and resourced.

How's my Europe looking?
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I've been away for awhile /gsg/, is the Memer's Due worth getting for CK2? How broken is it? Is it just another "le let's make more roadblocks for the player so blobbing is hard!"?

I've liked all of the DLC but Conclave and Aztec Invasion.
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>>153561062
>Not (forcibly) uniting the slavic nations under a single banner
You're playing Russia wrong lad
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>>153561062
Not as good as this one >>153560038
Pretty good Austria btw
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>>153561127
It's worth getting and significantly less broken than most CK2 DLC is at the first patch. Some people think that the minor epidemics are too much, but you can turn frequency down in the new game menu that the patch added, and I actually think they're fine, they remind me of the first CK game. It does make the game slightly harder, but it's not stupid roadblocks like that "let's copy shitty mechanics from EU4" update.
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>>153561410
Cool, the game options honestly entices me more for it than any of the actual expansion content. I'll have to pick it up when HIP updates.
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>>153561498
The game options are in the free patch anyway.
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>start a great holy war
>all is going well
>suddenly, my faggot opponent just converts and gets to keep all of his shit

What kind of bullshit is this ? Is there anyway to avoid it ? I want his fucking kingdom, not his conversion.
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>>153561621
cucked
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>>153561621
You started a holy war.
You fought in the name of religion.
You got what you "wanted" 2bh
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What
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>>153561812
But that's retarded.

He converted to save his ass, nothing more. He is still a filthy heretic.
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>>153561812
>You got what you "wanted" 2bh
It's not like all the provinces changed religion too. Tbh the system is just stupid, I'd have loaded an earlier save game and just win the war
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>>153561952
>It's not like all the provinces changed religion too. Tbh the system is just stupid, I'd have loaded an earlier save game and just win the war

thankfully I have one. I guess I'll try to speed things up.
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>>153561952
It's not like all the provinces change religion when you conquer it in a GHW, either. The war is against the heretic ruler to install a ruler of your own religion in the targeted land. It's pretty simple, you got your war goal.
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>>153561621
No, because every pagan can do that if threatened by a holy war
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>>153561621
They can't do that if they are zealous.
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As Brazil, what should i blob into except cisplatina ?
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>>153562647
Guayana, Venezuela.
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>>153562647
Reconquer Iberia.
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I'm doing temp work as a receptionist today and it's pretty slow. What should I do? I've been reading Wikipedia articles for the past hour. I think I might read a few Hoi3 guides so I can get gud
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>>153562785
>>153562834
I wanted to do the Dual Monarchy, but should Paraguay also be a goal ?
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>>153562892
Play Vic1 in windowed mode
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>>153562967
If the frontier is aesthetic, why not?
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>>153562892
>tfw also at work and have massive amounts of downtime

4 hours til i can get drunk lads get hype
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>>153562998
I'm using the office computer so can't. My supervisor said just browse the internet in my down time but idk what to browse on their computer, of course I can't shitpost here on their computer so I'm using my phone. I just read CNN articles and did sporcle quizzes for the first 2 hours. Now I'm bored. >>153563132
How do you pass the time?
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>>153561812
it's a pretext
historically, people dont just stop fighting when a war's already on just because it turns out one side was wrong
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>>153563316
Play any number of browser games.
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>>153563316
Play tetris?
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France, the absolute madman. They're still getting rekt in warscore though.
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>>153563316
I work in a digital archiving lab where I can do my work and simultaneously browse the internet/shitpost.

It differs per day since for 7 straight hours I'm sitting at a PC, but I usually just watch CK2 streams if there are any interesting ones, hop over to /tg/ and keep up with any quests I like/interest me, or just buy shit I need off of Amazon/Newegg.
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>kill Brits on my own with 40 ships and one stack
>return Gibraltar
>population kills my cabinet in return
What the fuck is wrong with Spanish people
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>>153559248
>from count straight up to king in ~30 years
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>>153564039
From the map it seems you're using HPM, but that event is from proper NNM and HPM removed them a while ago. What are you playing?
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>>153564791
Could be robmod
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>dude plays CK2 with pirated DLC enabled
>all of his house sigils get randomed
>mfw this was my plan all along
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>>153564987
t. closet pedo
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>>153564987
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>>153562414
I guess it's because he was a christian heretic.

Charlemagne dying young really fucked up europe.
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>>153564791
HPNNM
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>>153564987
so thats why it keeps happening lol

I was scared I had a virus or something
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>>153565324
Jesus Christ what a disgusting flag
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>>153533385
I am curious.
How well does Crusader Kings 2 work in multiplayer ?
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>>153562526
It also costs 500 prestige, iirc
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>>153564987
Elaborate to someone who never played CK2 pls
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>>153565815
You have flags for titles in CK2 and flags for your dynasty.
The flag of your dynasty is all fucked up.
E.g. House Capet should have the same house sigil as the French flag. Instead they have ... shells.
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>>153565696
It honestly feels like playing single player, except all players involved can pause; the player that paused has unpause priority for like a minute. If player A tries to interact with player B, e.g. offer an alliance, player B gets a little event popup.

It works fairly well, though it might go a little slower than what you're used to.
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>>153565952
Are you playing Vanilla?

I'm playing 2.5.2 with HIP and torrented DLC and IIRC all dynasty's flags are correct (or at least unique)
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>>153566073
That's not me.
He played the game with pirate DLC without applying the HPM patch and this happened.

Get Johan'd!
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>>153566179
Still worth it to not support Jewhan's shekeling
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Brits can't catch a break.
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>capet
>three seashells
Acquire the dynasty CoA DLC.
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>>153566496
Are Romanians retarded?
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>play as suebi
>can't migrate
ebin
>>
anyone tried blackice hoi4 yet?
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>>153567752
I didn't even like it for HoI3 honestly, I see no reason to play HoI4 for it
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>>153567885
so you played vanilla hoi3?
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Discuss.
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What land should I take in my Victoria 2 Spain campaign lads?
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>>153563364
But historically, wars did end that way.
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>>153568265
Aragonese Italian land
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>>153568265
release catalonia and annex portugal
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>>153533385
What the fuck happened to the archive, have the paracucks took over?
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>>153568146
Doesn't account for the quality of the people, so English clay is rated inaccurately highly in this model.
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What's the mod of choice for CK2? Is it CK2 Plus or HIP? I've been playing with HIP and enjoying it much more than vanilla. How does it compare to CK2 Plus? I want to restore Zoroastrianism and purge Islam.
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>>153568531
>You'll never be this illiterate
Feels good
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>>153568531

Mega turned to shit now that there's a limit to how much you can download so people stop caring about it.
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>>153568639
As a non-native English speaker, I don't see his mistake(s).
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>>153568868
Well, the post contains a comma splice, but that is an incredibly common error, typical of informal speech. So typical that I wouldn't really describe it as "illiteracy," but there you go.

Strictly, in formal writing, two independent clauses need to be either linked with a conjunction, or separated by a stronger punctuation mark than a comma.
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>>153569446
Wouldn't it be taken instead of took?
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>>153569812
Nice filename, tracking you up right now.
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>>153568146
I should move to bum fuck nowhere in norway and get all that sweet government funds doing fishing or whatever.
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>>153569869
oh no pls don't doxx me
pls:(((
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>>153569839
Yes.
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>>153569812
>a high level of discourse is expected

lmao, I was told to kill myself because I said based Bismarck didn't do nothing wrong and that willy was a retard.
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>>153570043
he's getting desperate lads...
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>>153570220
I dropped $35 on CK2 DLC only yesterday. Anyone know if Steam will compensate the difference if I ask?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/50nvkr/the_germans_that_time_forgot_a_suebi_aar/d75kkp2
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>>153570265
Is this an ironic post?
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>>153570490
t. redditors and /int/ cucks
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>>153570307
>buying any Paradox products when they're not on sale

You deserve to be scammed desu
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Uniting the muslim world, what heresy do I go with?
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>>153570490
Fuck off lefty/pol/
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>>153570307
IIRC you can't refund DLCs anyway, lmao
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>>153570490
t. schlomo mossadbergstein
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proddie blown the fuck out
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>7.50€ for conclave
at release it wasnt fun. Is it fun now?
Is it worth 7.50€? Or should i wait for a better discount next year?
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>>153571472
Stop playing paradox games altogether and get on with your life.
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>>153571397
>Londonderry will ALWAYS be British
No surrender.
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>>153570638
Sunnism
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>>153568560
HIP is better, ck2+ is only better with the trade system
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>>153571598
Muslim*
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>>153571553
i did. it was awful.
i want to get back and stellaris needs a few updates before its really fun to play
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>>153570638
Whichever is the most peaceful :^)
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ebin
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>>153571553
But I don't control even a single province in my real life. How do I get started?
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>>153571874
>HOI IV
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>>153571956
me too mate. but i'd rather play it than V2 for another year, or the failed abortion that is EU4
>>
>establishing germaniums in africa
>heia safari starts playing
>>
/gsg/, is HoI4 good enough to warrant purchase now that it's on sale?
>>
>>153572289
HoI4 was the last chance I was giving Paradox to turn it's pants the right way around and take them off their head. If it was good, I probably would have bought CK2 instead of pirating it. (I already had EU4, Vicky and HoI3)
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>>153572289
i already have. i hate paradox even though the games are alright. at this point im just trying to burn myself out on them so that I will eventually hate them
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>>153572946
>EU4 general fuckup
can you explain this? ive only been around for about a year and ive never seen anyone explain what that means
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>>153571878
Everything is your property
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>>153570552
>>153570679
>>153570740
>>153571024
lol triggered
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>>153573380
Is this an ironic post?
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>>153573162
Fuck off filthy goyim, jewish blood is most supreme blood.
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>>153573453
it's an iconic fox
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>>153573162
Germans and Anglos are the greatest enemies of the white race.

The Nordic and French races are the true masters of this world and their decline is just another proof that we are living in the kali yuga.
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>>153573162
Anglo's are the true herrenvolk, and we're mostly Brythonic.
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>>153571598
>derry isn't even protestant majority any more
kek
Enjoy your failed economy after Merkel puts you in your place.
>>
Is here any mod for CK2 about Rome? I only found one that shifts the starting date to 100, but that's too late and Rome is too big at the point
>>
>>153558508
I said backwater, they had a surprisingly educated populace and everything, but the problem was that the area around Berlin might as well have been a desert, and that it was only Prussia's Polish Territories and then Silesia that were actually productive, hence why it was of so much importance to Frederick the Great to acquire the province, because though his father had managed to keep a pretty tight budget and train the army up well, there was no way it was going to support itself from Prussia's own industrial base.
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>>153573904
Just play EU:Rome

I wish they'd make a game that reused the political system it had
>>
>>153574153
I want it to be CK2 mod because I love the Sims part of the game.
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>>153574302
EUR still has the character management part, just from a different perspective. You're playing as the nation controlling ghost like in other EU's, but you're still managing individual leaders, handing out governorship and legions to characters, managing factions controlled by these characters and so on

It's pretty cool
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>>153574302
>tfw CK2 ruined all other grand strategy games for you because none of them quite do the character-centric thing it does
On the upside I've gained a newfound appreciation for Dwarf Fortress.
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Really makes you think
>>
They're buffing Prussia even more in Rights of Man. Prussia was already a military powerhouse.

I'm not really opposed to it though. Looks neato.
>>
>You can not play Muslim without the Muslim DLC
>You can not start earlier than 1066 AD without two DLCs
Just what the fuck is this man.
>>
>>153573636
>and we're mostly Brythonic.

t. Oliver von Saxe-Coburg und Gotha.
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>tfw anarchism is not viable in V2
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>>153573157

I think he meant:

>Mana system

>Useless DLCs like Corssack, Common Sense and Mare Nostrum for $15 that come with game breaking patches

>Fort system

>Development system (100 admin mana for 1 base tax)

>Estate system that only causes annoyances

>Broken corruption system
>>
>>153574962
>(North) Italian
>(North)
>genetics show South and North Italians are essentially the same
>n-no I swear, the South Italians are all subhumans
Wonder how Italians feel about this.
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>>153574153
Is that game any good tho ?
>>
>>153574962
>latinos value religion and family values, while all those other ethnicities are facing biological extinction because people are becoming increasingly hedonistic and self-centered

Yeah, really makes you think.
>>
>"United" States
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>>153575594
Why didn't they call it The Federation of America?
>>
>>153575710
Why didn't they call it 60% non-white?
>>
>>153575685
Actually, I'm just one of those "superior" ethnicities which won't exist in the next 30 years, you dumb pol-cuck.
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>>153575748
Lel
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>>153575845
t. sven the Bull prepper
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>>153575507

>latinos value religion and family values

People actually believe this

>other ethnicities are facing biological extinction

Impying latinos aren't the offspring of the biological extinction you're mentioning
>>
>Impying latinos aren't the offspring of the biological extinction you're mentioning
What did he mean by this?
>>
SOLDIER_TO_POP_DAMAGE = 0.6, > whole hpm mod desu
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>>153576280

The average mexican immigrant in the USA is certainly more religious and family oriented than the average americuck. Good god I fucking can't wait until the USA is majorly hispanic.
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>>153576474
don't you mean 1.6 ?
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>>153576280
>offspring of extinction
Are you familiar with the word "oxymoron"?
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>>153576474
You're a fucking pussy if that isn't set at at least 10 desu
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Okay lads, which flag should i use for the Luso-Brazilian empire? historically they used the following pic, but i think it sucks.
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>>153575368
It's good, feels ancient to play though
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>>153576474
>>153576735
>>153576718
forgot pic
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>>153576590
Mexicans in the US are far more religious than Mexico itself, you literally never see a Mexican atheist permanently in the US while like 10% of Mexicans in Mexico are atheists. Not related, but the same goes for how secular Albanians in Albania are when compared to Kosovo's Albanians.
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>>153533385
when did they say the new patch for ck2 will be out? I wanna play it but I dont wanna start again cause of glitches and when they update it again.
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>>153576280
>People actually believe this
Americans believe it because the latinos that move to America are generally conservative farmers for whom those things are true.
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>>153575830
desu having to trade off between development and expansion at least feels like it makes some sense (tall or wide kingdoms, etc)

trading off between tech and province development on the other hand makes no fucking sense
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any1 gotten in trouble yet for playing with pirated dlc:s since the new patch?
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>tfw its been four and a half years and there's still no naval combat system in CK2
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>>153577939
>Conservative god fearing farmers who put family first
>Voting demlols
ok kid

>>153578106
Why not just pirate the whole game with all the DLCs? Or if you're lazy, find a crack and apply it to your legit copy?
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>>153578185
I could swear naval combat was a thing in vanilla CK2.

Is my mind playing tricks on me?
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What are recommended DLC's for EU4?
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>>153578308
I've played it since release and there was never any naval combat
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>>153577618
The thing is, this flag was used when Portugal was mroe relevant than Brazil. During vicky 2 timeframe, not only Brazil would be the major power in the union, but it is possibly the one that would form it.
Although the standard Brazil flag in the game was also used by the union, so i may not even bother changing it.
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>>153578229
The thing is, everyone in their churches and families are minorities.
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>>153578229
Because hispanics, who are new to the US, aren't steeped in American political factionalism and thus vote according to their interests, not their ideals.
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To the guy who wanted the Manichean flags, I'll start making them now and eventually post them.

If anyone wants some flag made, I may be able to help.
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>>153578229
>>Voting demlols

Yeah, they should vote for political options that would affect them and their countrymen negatively. You really are a smart one aren't ya?
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>>153578185
Naval combat was pretty are during the CK2 era


>>153578308

There never was any
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>>153578185
anyone ever spot the paradox plaza bootlickers defending this?
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>>153578640

rare*
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>>153578615
If they aren't illegal, none of those policies will hurt them.

>>153578794
The only good defense is that it would make naval invasions way harder than they were during the period.
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>>153577758
It's already out, and it already got hotfixed too.
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>>153578640
pretty sure this is just a meme because there was loads of squabbling in the med between powers known for their navies.
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>naval combat STILL doesn't exist in CK2
>you can't even use your navy (which is pretty much just invincible transports) to blockade enemy provinces or prevent an enemy fleet from reaching your coast and landing troops

r*dditors will unironically defend this because "b-but naval combat wasn't a thing during that era!"
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>>153579054

>Early in the medieval period, ships in the context of warfare were used primarily for transporting troops. In the Mediterranean, naval warfare in the Middle Ages was similar to that under late Roman Empire: fleets of galleys would exchange missile fire and then try to board bow first to allow marines to fight on deck. This mode of naval warfare remained basically the same into early modern period, as, for example, at the Battle of Lepanto.
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>>153550514
form a merchant republic on the silk road and play as them
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>>153579309
But anon everyone knows that the first naval battle in history was the Mexican Armada
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>>153550514
some island count, own all the islands(that have no straits to mainland europe or africa or india
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>>153579309
>blockading anything or intercepting anyone with primarily oar driven ships

"no"
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>house Dunbar of Lothian is now the Kings of England
>Karlings have gone from 1066 one province count to the throne of France by 1200
What the fugg
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>you can give your acenstors one of your body parts
Nice
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>>153576835
Is this flag acceptable? it has the main characteristics from both countries.
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>>153579018
hmm... cant find the hotfix in the archive, tx by the way.
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>>153579684
Somehow this new patch makes everything EU4 tier memey. Everyone dies of cancer by age 30, except the one pope I funded who lived until 83.
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>>153579392
>Merchant Republic
>comfy

Nigga you gotta stress out over elections and shit.
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>>153580407
Well yeah, the price of piracy is getting shit a little later than the goyim.
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>>153580131
Good enough, it must display the symbols of the house of Braganza to make sense, maybe use a better looking crown
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>Playing KR game as Wrangel
>Kicked Syndie scum off the continent and unified Eurasia with the helps of the Japs
>CSA+UoB+Brazil are the core members of the Internationale, they control west Africa, GB AND the Americas.
>Entente completely destroyed thanks to efforts by the Internationale and Eurasia bloc. Columbo was nuked by the UoB two times over.
>Cold war begins
>Wrangel dies
>MFW when nine of the successors are worthy

How do I make this interesting for myself?
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>>153580863
was a mistake on my side, I though they released 2.6.2 already.
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Daily reminder that there's not a single positive aspect in Latin America that doesn't apply to the West.
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>>153580958
Pick the option that starts another war.
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>>153581282
Latin america is in the west, I fail to understand what you mean.
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Have the liquor memers ran HPM off of /gsg/?
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>>153581450
If you live in in Japan, Latin America is in the east.
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Rate my Yurop
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>>153581567
Woah dude
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>>153581568
liking that savoy but serbia... thats just trouble waiting to happen.
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how 2 localisation
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>>153580886
It does have the symbols of house of Braganza. The crown is almost exactly the same as >>153576835 , and the green represents it as well.

Fuck it, i'm going to use it.
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>>153581568
Now show your Asia.
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>>153581796
microsoft excel dumb dumb
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>>153581796
Convert the .csv to .txt, open it and follow the structure:
(the name you put on title/desc/name);(the content);;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
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>>153576614
I'd be okay if you'd have a chance to lose a big number of the army, the chance could be higher during winter
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Can only tribals convert to merchant republics in CK2, or can I go from feudal/iqta/whatever to it too?
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>>153582204
Just tribal and nomad
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>>153582416
Fuck. Do any of them start with a religion that won't take forever to reform while still having coastal silk road access?
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>8.5%
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>>153581321
Trigger nuclear war?
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HIP when

vanilla is insufferable
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>>153580724
I dunno, my rulers have been living into their 60s except when they die at 20 a month after taking the throne, clutching their heart
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>>153582513
It's easy as fuck to convert as a nomad, and it's also easy to take whatever land you want. Start as Khazar Jews of you're gonna needing a merchant, you may as well do it right. Merchant Republic of Israel or bust.
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>>153582532
how?
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>>153582513
There are Christian tribals even in post 1066 start date, like 1191 the Duke of Livonia
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>>153583286
I've been screwing around this entire game while I learn how to mod. I own all of South America, and 100% of my population is yankee

I made an event that gave me +100% population growth for a few months. Now my demographics are all sorts of fucked up
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>>153582513
Check out alodia, tribals, christians and have to conquer only a few provinces to get to the silk road.
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>>153578106
Why would anyone get in trouble?

Has anyone ever been banned from steam for pirating shit?
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>>153582873
Ok so I drew the short straw then, and fucking cancer is actually genetic in the game. Makes sense since I bred quick into the family and half the house has the quick trait(the other house is inbred because I can't resist seducing attractive sisters)
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How do I reduce rebel size across the board in vicky2 or make rebels less likely to join? Too many countries flipping between commies and anarcholiberals every few years and with increased soldier pop dmg Russia, Qing gets cucked too hard.
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>>153584705
Yes, my friend's brother Viljami was banned from Steam for pirating Call of Duty.
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Austria started collapsing, they are pathetic
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>>153584710
>Inbreed for generations
>Fucking cancer everywhere
You should have seen it coming senpai
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>>153555596
>so trade goods actually matter?
this would be nice to have but it really isn't as important as this general makes it out to be. same with pops. yea there's so much to do with pops like encourage clergy.

in terms of roleplaying V2 is the better choice, but in terms of gameplay V2 is not that much better than EU4.
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>>153585452
Russian pops slowly overtaking africa
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>>153585734
show pops
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Why did Hawaii start using the Union Jack? And why didn't they ever change it afterwards?
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>>153586815
Everybody should use the Union Jack in their flags
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>>153585495
Yeah I know, I accidentally kissed my sister IRL once after a long game
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>>153586815
>start
started*
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>>153586815
If she's supposed to be British why is she white and where is her burqa?
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>>153586815
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Hawaii
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>>153586815
Probably because Captain cook found them and gave them a flag as a gift
>hey lads, you now are subjects of King George III alright? Here's your flag, see ya
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>>153586948
>started
start*
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>>153586897
t. william al-abdullington
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>>153586948
Dumbfuck
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>>153587420
>>153586897
>not using the objectively superior French flag
plebs, do you even république?
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All the DLC is pricey, what should I do?
Any DLC for both games I should avoid?
Should I pirate the DLC, and can steam ban me if I play online using pirated DLC?
Fuck.
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>>153588042
Pirate everything.
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>>153588042
>what should I do

Start fucking children like everyone in this general does.
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>>153587243
>start

started*
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>>153588438
>started
stort
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>>153586948
>>153588438
>why did the chicken crossed the road
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>>153588884
Well, why did it?
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>>153588884
I never did hear the answer to that one.
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>>153588884
To buy more dlcs
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>>153589189
Because it's a chicken you dumb fuck, chickens don't know what a road is
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Hillary = Russia

Trump = Prussia
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>>153589403
I was using a comp at my schools libary and every fuckin video that I watched opened with an ad bashing trump and dont even get me started on the news.
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>>153585734
how
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>>153589403
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>>153589596
My bet is genocide I had a very similar pop map of africa when I was spain. Youd be surprised how many states will have a national pop majority when the natives get wiped out 6 times. I even had a 60% spainish majority in Vietnam.
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>>153589370
I don't get it.
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Scheiße for the Kaiser.
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>>153554085
What mod is that?
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>>153590526
epic
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>.ru
Is the download site for CK2 trustworthy?
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What funny things do you guys do in CK2? I make all of the women spy masters to have a stacked hand against people I want dead.
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>>153590758
>>153590775
>>153590864
haha! upvote :) *gives gold*
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>>153590504
Are you referring to the map? In which case I have:
A Revolutionary Borders Mod,
A Revolutionary Water Mod and
A Transparent Map Mod (Dark)
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>>153533754
>>153533754

Where do I download this mod pls
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>>153591272
Yes.

Thank you.
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Is there any way so I can save in Darkest Hour when an event choice pops up?
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>>153591341
I don't fucking know. Last time I was here, there was an Archive for the games.
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>>153588113
Can or will they ban me if I try to play online with pirated dlc?
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>>153591763
Just load an autosave.
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>>153589776
Aren't a bunch of niggers in a colony more useful than a handful of accepted pops in a deserted overseas state?
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>>153591949
How is that an answer to what I asked? When some important events show up the menu is locked and I can't save the game. I want to be able to.
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>>153591475
you can find it here after I'm finished tinkering with a few more things
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>Last time I played CK2 was pre-Rajas of India
>Start playing again when Conclave released
>Game is now a stuttering mess when before the game ran silky smooth
>Reaper's Due release somehow made it worse

The lack of coding optimization really hit this game hard over the years.
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>>153578640
Yet there were enough of them to deserve an implementation.

Having a viking DLC without naval battles is pretty pathetic
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>>153593718
Odd, a lot of people including myself found the Reaper's Meme patch boosted performance. Some people are reporting that it runs faster than pre-Rajas CK2.
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>>153593718
It runs ok with the new patch, if you still feel it's too slow, try the no India mod.
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>>153533885
I want to see Lady Liberty and Brittania fuck.
>>
Been giving Crusader Kings 2 a try and holy fuck its a convoluted mess of unnecessary shit. You are not even playing the game your vassals are, all my vassals for no reason hate me and relations wont improve and they fuck like rabbits so I can't get rid of them all so I am just stuck with a shitty kingdom that can't grow as I can't get soldiers. Can't think of a single case where this shit happened to a kingdom that was on a good roll what a bunch of bollocks. Anyone got any advice outside of sucking my vassals dicks?
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>gold rush event in Kimberley
>literally not a single British pop moves there
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>>153594052
git gud
play eu4 if you just want to blob
>>
Should I get Victoria 2 if I liked CK2 but thought HoI4 was complete tripe?
>>
Can you reliably acquire land through inheritance and marriage in CK2? I've tried my hand at it, and the process seems circumstantial at best.
>>
Been a hot second since I was in the threads.

Do we not have the DLC sitting around in the mediafire directory anymore?
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>>153594461
Played eu4 and hoi4 and did it all. It's not a case of me blobbing or git gud it's a case of whether I want to spend 60 hours of my own time pleasing vassals or do I want to grow a kingdom you know like people did back then.
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>>153533385
> Be Westernized (from island hopping) Ming with string of naval bases across Random New World, hogging most of the estuaries and centers of trade, but only one colonial nation, with Korea as protectorate and Japan as ally.
> Engage in extreme piracy against rival France from my ally Portugal which occasionally feels threatened by me.
> A fleet of over 300 and counting

> Game save is named "Zheng He's Legacy"

Where did it all go so right?
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>>153594052
lol you're so green you piss grass
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>>153594557
Yes you can.
>marry your heir to the daughter of the ruler you want to inherit
>murder all male heirs
>when the ruler dies, your daughter in law inherits.
>your grandson inherits both your kingdom and the want you wanted to annex
It just takes a long time and you have to plan ahead, it only works with Christians and in the early scenarios might be harder because most of Europe are tribes and they are either pagan or stuck in gavelkind.
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>>153594619
for me you are just missing point of the game.
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>>153594697
I am yeah I wanted a medieval kingdom simulator not a babysitter simulator.
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>>153594052
Demense limit is serious business. Vassals get pissed if you go over it. Raise it with stewardship skill and focuses, as well as the centralization law system.

Also, if you're a King, keep a duchy or two (whatever your demense limit can support) for yourself, then hand the rest of the duchies out. Each of your dukes should have one duchy with one or two counties personally held. The rest are their vassals. This is important, because those vassals are now their fucking problem, not yours, fuck off Mayor of Dildostein

Try to only hold one Kingdom title, or your vassals will get the "desires a Kingdom" modifier. Try, generally, to hold only one of your top level holdings (unless you're a super Duke working towards a kingdom)

Also, long reign, prestige, piety and positive traits will build up over the life of your ruler and make shit really easy until they die. Try not do tie. Hunting and Family focuses give health benefits that should keep you alive well into your 60s.

Don't shut the gates unless you have disease in your capital county. You get a nasty "abandoned the people" modifier to opinions.
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r8
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>>153594857
Fair enough, although I struggle with part two of that plan. Everyone is apparently beloved and unkillable.
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>>153594557
it's worth trying, you never get it guaranteed but I once united great britain by marrying qt English queen
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>>153594884
what
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>>153594557
I've managed it. Have a lot of prestige, find a young countess or duchess and mairy your heir to them. You can usually only get a county or two at a time, and I've never managed it with a female heir.
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>>153595258
WHAT?
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>>153595258
How does that relate to what was posted though?
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>>153595061
What's the green country between USA and Canada?
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>>153594912
Being a King in the middle ages was 6/10ths babysitting vassals, 3/10ths dieing to various diseases and 1/10th DEUS VULT
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>>153595328
Canada?
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>>153595302
just fuck off back to plebbit already
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>>153595439
The fuck are you even talking about dude
>>
>>153595328
The green part is independent Canada. The red country is bits of Canada that Britain still holds as colonies.
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>>153595156
just have larger army than your vassals, and kill them when they rebel, replacing them by guys who like you. Its what makes things interesting, large blobs dont live that long.
This game might not be for you
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>>153595328
Mexico, it literally says right there.
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>>153595559
>what is reading comprehension
>>
>>153594912
You're conflating absolutist monarchies with feudal kingdoms.
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>>153595536
>Large blobs don't live long
>Every single 1066 start still has a big blurple blob at the end of the game
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>>153595708
Something you apparently don't have, retard.
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>>153594912
you do realise ck2 is dynasty simulator, not kingdom simulator?
>>
>>153592004
Bit of a late response but kinnda. If you have accepted pops and make a place a state you can build factories there. So if all you care about is pure score then having even one working factory in the congo is worth more then a million niggers working a coffee plantation.
>>
>>153594653
>Where did it all go so right?
When you westernized
>>
>This new position for learned courtiers opens up a series of events tied to the diagnosis and treatment of diseases with medieval tech.
This is silly meme "history" like other paradox shit, not telling about historical methods, right?
>>
>>153595896
I said between the USA and (I meant British) Canada, Mexico is below the US, British Canada is above the US. Are you just pretending to be retarded?
>>
>>153594250
Ah yes, the hysterical poppy mud.
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>>153596431
>backpedaling this hard
>>
Why can't you build the Suez Canal in CK2 yet?

All this DLC, and Paradox still hasn't done shit about it yet? Really?
>>
why the hell is AI in crusander kings 2 so aggressive now? I keep getting like 3 people at the same time declaring war on me. holy shit let me develop my shitty 1 county first for fucks sake
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>>153596652
because it's not fucking 1859
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>>153596635
It's not backpedaling, I'm kindly explaining since you appear to struggle with the basic concepts of below and above.
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what should i choose my friends?
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>>153597043
doesn't matter, it railroads you to alfonso anyway
>>
>>153597141
that's what I wanted, Spanish will restore their empire !
>>
>>153597015
But there were attempts to build it during the middle ages.
>>
>>153597030
Just admit you fucked up.
>>
Haven't played CK2 in a long time, and I'm feeling like playing a game as a historically significant dynasty.

I was thinking of 1066 with either hohenstaufen or karling. Do you guys have any good ideas?
I'm down for anything that isn't muslim or indian
>>
>>153597517
Savoy, create the kingdom of Italy 800 years before
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>>153597517
Play 1066 as the Hapsburgs. They exist as a single count in Switzerland.
>>
@153597472
no
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>>153597517
Solomon, reclaim alexandria.
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>>153575271
I'm italian from the north and the cultural differences are so big we may as well be two different countries
>>
@153597970

cuck
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>>153597517
The Sicilian Norman
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>>153598185
you're all pasta niggers at the end of the day
>>
HPM

can you find a way so catholic pops are more likely to choose catholic countries and protestants protestant countries?
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>>153598185
>>
>>153598185
>Italians
>white
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>>153598387
We're invaded by niggers too so that's in part truth
>>
>>153598607
>Italians
>Human
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>>153575271
usually we central italians laugh at southern and northern italians throwing shit at each other
>>
>>153598703
t. germanic servant
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>>153598387
South italy is genetically greek desu
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>>153598756
t.black shirt
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>>153598841
you mean Turkish
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>>153598739
central italians are still south italians
>>
Reminder that north, south, central, at home or abroad. All Italians, and people from the Mediterranean in general, are incompetent, lazy, and unreliable as fucl.
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>>153598910
i'd rather consider myself southern than northern
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>>153598957
t. NEET
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>>153598841
>sardinians share genes with slavs
I understand a lot of things now
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>>153599068
No. t. Hans.
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>>153599021
Southern Italians are Turkish and based
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>>153598841
>balkanoids and swedecucks are the most "european" people

Really makes you think.
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>>153599081
explains everything


>>153599116
Alhamdulillah!
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>>153599068
NEETS are white and based
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>>153598185
but who would keep Rome?>>153598185
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>>153599530
Autonomous under the pope kinda like Brussels.
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>>153599530

The Pope
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>>153599530
The pope
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>>153599530
romans
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>>153599021
>I rather be poor and stupid than rich and smart
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>>153599530
The holy father, of course.
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>>153599605
>>153599598
Popemind
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>>153599598
>>153599605
>>153599798
LOS ESTADOS PONTIFICIOS SON ARGENTINOS
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>>153599701
>padani are rich and smart
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Is this true?
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>>153600015
yes, happens with diaspora too

t. 30 yo virgin italo-argie
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>>153600114
sup Hitlermod
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>>153600114
How's it like being a magus?
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Africa is still stronk. I'm in the process of annexing the exiled Castille and the collapsing Mamluks. If I take Castille's last vestigial province in Iberia, I'll have a foothold on the continent to start the blackening of Europe. I think I'd like to take Rome soon too, so I can get some more missionaries and remove catholic. I'm also stealing and sabotaging any Caribbean colonies I can, because that's African clay anyway.

Still allied with Britain and Ottomans, but both of them have encroached on Africa enough that I'm gonna have to turn on them eventually.

Meanwhile, Europe continues to be absolutely disgusting. France can't stop surrendering, and Burgundy refuses to make reasonable borders. Aragon formed Spain, which annoys me, but they'll be irrelevant soon anyway.

I changed my govt type to Empire, which gives me some handy CB, for now at least. On tech I'm finally catching up with the yuros. I need to build up a much stronger navy though. My economy is still pretty primitive, but I'll just steal all the gold so I'll be rich anyway.
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>>153600560
>Bohemia spreading like a virus into the steppes.
Every time EU3 everytime.
>>
So, paradox sale on steam and I want to try out a grand strategy title but don't have much spare money, what game can I get the most out of before feeling like I need to purchase DLC? Apparently that's a big thing with these games
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>>153600560
What's your religion?
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>>153600782
You can pirate DLC no prob. DH or EU4.
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>>153600782
Just be a pedophile like everyone else lad.
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>>153600782
You could always pirate the DLC
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>always play with sound off
>turn it on just now for no reason
>all that electro orchestra
god damn the ck2 soundtrack is awesome, anywhere I can download it?

Also does anyone know if steam cheevos work with pirated DLCs?
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>>153600782
Pirate everything, don't even buy the base game.
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>>153600956
Is this an ironic post?
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what am I doing wrong?
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>>153601037
I thought of this since it's an SP game but let's just say the steam save sync is really handy and will be even handier in the months to come
>>153600853
excuse me being a newfag but what does DH stand for? Darkest Hour?
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>>153576614
FUCK PARADOX HOW DOES THAT WORK
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>>153601381
You could just backup the saves yourself
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>>153601183
Other then playing israel looks like you forgot to set litracy
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>>153601381
What's simply stopping you from uploading your saves to a cloud service?
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>>153601558
>set literacy
I changeownered palestine to Israel as the UK, how do I set literacy?
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>>153601534
>>153601585
is giving money to paradox that bad? I guess I'll just pirate them
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>>153600956
Dunno where you'd be able to download it, but it's on youtube here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk0ZQTzjqMc
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>>153601183
>>153601642
>>153601558
I cant seem to be able to mobilize anything either
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>>153601180
>>153601728
oops, nevemrind
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>>153600956

>go into the files
>open music folder
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>>153600848
Songhai is Sunni.

>>153600717
It's usually one of a handful of countries that end up taking over all the Golden Horde territory. I've seen Ottomans do it, or Austria, but Bohemia is definitely one of the usual suspects. It's obviously supposed to be Russia, but the Russian countries are all too weak in 1399 to actually become Russia.

In the late game maybe I'll invade them through Ottos and carve Boheeeeemia up.
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Where do I actually pirate the DLC now that it's not in the mediafire folders?
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>>153601663
It's worse than being a peadophile.
>>
First time Im a GP in V2. What the fuck am I supposed to do?
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>>153601874
Just torrent the whole repack jesus christ. It's like 1,7 gigs on pirate bay.
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>>153601772
wait, I think its because my whole country's a colony
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>>153575193
>tfw anarchism is not viable in RL
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>>153602028
>2016
>Still using honeypot bay
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>>153602191
>2016
>still living in a country where you can get busted for downloading shit over the internet
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>>153602028
I bought the base game long ago.

I just pirate the DLC. I actually like running the game through steam.
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where the fuck are the ck2 mods? still NOTHING

NOTHING
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>>153602567
go update them then
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rec me a nation and goal for vic 2 lads, no großgermania please
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>>153602734
monopolize world liquor production
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>>153601919
maintain your status and sphere other nations for their resources
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I found a torrent but it's not clean, I guess I'll just buy EU4
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>>153603070
>>
>form Merchant Republic in CK2 because why not, never tried before
>nothing is explained particularly well

Should I build trade posts in my own counties, or in other peoples' counties? The game lets me do either/both.
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>>153602734
Retake Latin America as Spain and make your own decision to genocide all non whites (north andean, natives, and other mixed shit)
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>>153603070
t. johan
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OY VEY

BLACK ICE MOD IS OUT
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>>153603128
MAXIMIZE TRADE ZONE VALUE

SEE THAT NUMBER ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF YOUR TRADE DEAL SHIT? THE #1 THEN THE NUMBER WITH GOLD?

YOU WANT THIS TO BE HIGH AS POSSIBLE

LINK TRADE ZONES WITH TRADE POSTS

LINK MOST RICH PROVINCES FOR TRADE BUX

DESTROY PATRIACHS IN YOUR NATION WHO TAKE YOUR DOPE TRADE SPOTS

REMOVE KABAB
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>CK2 randomly goes non responsive on the 17th of december, 1299
What's causing this? Not autosave/save because it's not the end of the month or ironmeme.
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>>153602838
As what country?
>>153603178
>blobbing
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>>153603203
Is it good?
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>>153603203
is it any good?
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>>153603203
IT'S ANOTHER SHOAH
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>>153603203
Link? also is hoi4 worth playing again?
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>>153603329
mexico
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Nice try, Danasabe.
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>>153603518

enact Build wall decision
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>>153603394
>>153603343
bretty gud so far. Lot's and lot's of things to take into consideration in terms of production. A few minor things i've noticed so far. Have not tested their AI improvements yet. Just got released today.
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>>153603542
WE
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>>153603621
Are arrows still a thing?
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>>153603245
So does that mean "both"? Just creep along the coastline as thoroughly as possible?
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>>153603621
holy bloat do people actually enjoy this shit?
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>>153603450
Main Group and Workshop page of Black Ice:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=707136443
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>>153603542
What ugly-ass mod is this?
>>
red pill me on right of memes
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>>153603682
click on trade zone map

see those trade zones? if a border is touching that trade zone, you can daisy-chain to another trade zone since it touches two.

use this strategically to link places like rome to constantinople via island hopping (I usually go rome->syracuse->greece->trace->constantinople)
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>>153603658
WUZ REFORMATIONS N SHIET

>>153603809
HIP for 2.5.2.2
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>>153603804
download link pls i no have steam
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>>153603290
pls
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>tfw I've just discovered it's pronounced "Yo-an"
>>
>play eu4
>lose to meme rolls
>ai wins like 5 sieges <20% while I'm stuck on my first siege at 80%
>open cheat engine
>turn on invincibility
>beat them
>stop playing because it isn't fun anymore
>wonder why i started playing because it wasn't fun to begin with
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Haven't touched Casual Kids 2 since Sons of Abraham

Where should I play? I was thinking making a giant Cathar blob.
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>>153603767
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1HEedY7oL5S
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what did he mean by this
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>>153604158
just play hoi4 or ck2 senpai eu is dead
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>>153604040
It's only on steam community workshop right now. The lead designer mentioned in one of the discussions that he will upload an alternative download link tomorrow.
>>
>>153604118
Pretty sure it's prounounced the same way the german johannes is.

>>153604181
How could you tell?
>>
>>153604181
groß????
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>>153604312
I am aware of this


So how the fuck are you playing it?

put it in a zip and slip it on mega.nz, do you people not know how to do this stuff?

do you think I'm asking for no reason?

jesus christ the floride in the water is killing the brains everywhere
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35U0HMpLVto

why is johan so cute?
>>
>>153603767
Sure. Lots of people play grand strategy games as map painting simulators.
>>
>>153604510
Johan literally just made this meme dlc so he could nlob as prussia.
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>>153604510
>vicky 3
he seems so tired and depressed, I want to save him and paradox
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>>153604510
He sounds so soft. Like a sea shell.
>>
>>153604309
hoi4 is boring as shit and ck2 had massive slow down after 100~ years the last i played it
>>
>>153604697
He probably sucks a mean dick
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>>153604437
I just got into this an hour ago, i'm sorry you don't have steam. I'm uploading it now for you, cool your autism
>>
>>153604875
Thank you, I'm just used to having to spoonfeed people on /gsg/ nowadays about the simplest shit

People literally asking how to torrent in the wake of the archive shit kills me inside
>>
>>153604839
This le ironic homosexual meme is almost as bad as le liquor for the 365th time in the last year.
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DDRJake, dreadlock degenerate and Wiz

VS

Johan

who will prevail?
>>
>>153605010
t. johan
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>>153533385
>This day in history, September 1st:
where's the invasion of Poland

also Sedan was the 2nd or the 3rd not the 1st
>>
>>153604510

Johan is testing these meme mechanics in EU4 and buffing Prussia as a testing for the future development of Vic3 . Now Brandenburg will for Germany every game around early 1600s.
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>>153604114
>>153603290
























thanks lads
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>>153604956
https://mega.nz/#fm/OAVnhLDC
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did he really beat his kid to death?
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>>153604510
also watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhi_xQchvpY
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>>153605356
>v2 ocket
>non nazi flag
>piss flag
>bloat arse
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Dude Croatia lmao
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>>153593718
reaper's due made the game actually quite enjoyable, performance-wise. I'd suggest you to re-install the game
>>
>>153605356
thank you friendo
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>>153605356
I thought this was a victoria mod for a second
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>>153605461
za dom
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>>153604956
>People literally asking how to torrent in the wake of the archive shit kills me inside


I wonder whose fault is this.
>>
does v2 ocket fix the fundamental arrow drawing meme?
does v2 ocket fix the meme supply limits?
does v2 ocket fix the meme mana system?
>>
>>153603290
i dunno delete you map cache
>>
>>153605740
Discord, you fucking nigger.
>>
Why does paradox not stream ck2?
>>
>>153605981
DONT DO THIS IT'LL ERASE YOUR SAVE
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>>153606049
They do
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>>153606117
multiplayer?
>>
>>153606168
I don't know, I don't watch it
>>
>>153606035
I wasn't talking about the archive getting taken down, I was talking about individuals who don't even know how to torrent.
>>
>>153606074
>clearing a fuggin map erases your save
ebin
>>
>>153606297
What the hell has Talex to do with people not knowing how to be a pedophile
>>
>>153605920
no

here have 35 different production variants of a Pz. II.
>>
>>153605356
It doesn't work for me, it just opens my account
>>
>>153606297
We've always had redditors here, they came for vickymod.

If you think the solution is to ban everything that makes /gsg/ great so they don't want to come here you're either retarded or a shitter.
>>
>>153604118
Wrong

>>153604330
Correct
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>>153605920
Getting rid of arrows is very easy though, you just have to delete the bonus they give. I don't know if they did it.
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r8 my demensnake
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Where are the willy memes. I don't even browse this board and I came for willy memes? WHEREA RE MY WILLY MEMEES
>>
>>153606510
I'm just shitposting me ladboyomate. Didn't even expect I'm gonna get replies.
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>>153606513
t. Ameritard
>>
>>153533385

Any eurofags wanna do vicky 2 tomorrow at normal times with a bunch of redditors?
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>>153603916
what mod adds all that Africa?
>>
>>153606510
sup reddit
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>>153605356
>>153606490
Sorry first time using this. Try now.
https://mega.nz/#!jdFyyKTT!M9vkL5SyYQehLm3NIfcySXudQcDyppBgCVZzUYy50yc
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Is my game broken?

wut do
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>>153607073
Based
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>>153606760
(You)

>>153606971
Fuck off, Victor.
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>>153607109
uninstall
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Finally, after about 50 years of floating around 42% MA, I managed to reform the Church of Zun.

We did it Reddit!
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>>153607073
Good job lad
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>>153606787
>t. retard
I'm a German who speaks all Scandinavian languages fluently, actually.
>>
>>153607073
Reported, enjoy the FBI and the CIA knocking on your door in about an hour.
>>
>>153607232
Sidaas daraaddeed waa in aan bilaabi hadlayay in aad afka ka badan la yaqaan?
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>>153607232
Who are you quoting?
>>
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>>153607625
>>153607625
>>153607625
>>153607625
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>>153607473
Ebin meme, never saw it coming
>inb4 t. swede
You're spouting reddit tier repetition.
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>>153607323
I hope you mentioned I'm armed and dangerous
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>>153607473
>t. Hassan Abdullah Hersi al-Turki

>>153607521
>t. Alexis Ohanian
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>>153607683
>he actually understands tribal speak
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>>153607207
How the fuck? Did you save up a zillion gold and build a fuckton of temples?
>>
>>153607473
Is this dutch?
>>
>>153600782
Get for the glory, it has no DLC and it's probably the best EU game.
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