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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General. Let's talk about Sonic games, old and new, and the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, etc.

/sthg/ - #554 - Shadow's Favorite Things Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments<
More Sonic in LEGO Dimensions Details and Gameplay Revealed (Releases November 18th)
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/08/more-sonic-in-lego-dimensions-details-revealed/
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/08/sonic-in-lego-dimensions-releases-november-18th-new-gameplay-released/

A Lawsuit Against Archie & SEGA America Has Been Filed By Narrative Ark Entertainment (Scott Fulop)
http://www.tssznews.com/2016/08/02/a-lawsuit-against-archie-sega-america-has-been-filed-by-narrative-ark-entertainment/
http://www.tssznews.com/2016/08/03/archie-lawsuit-documents-scott-fulop-is-plaintiff-cites-almost-1000-examples-of-alleged-copyright-infingement-in-comics/

Sonic Mania Interview with Christian Whitehead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rDCmCd8BVo

>Recent Releases<
Green Hill Paradise, a 3D Sonic fan game is now out.
Trailer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0IsSeE_ckI
Download here: https://mega.nz/#!bdtByBRB!QENQpUU2fzjYSs79s0Y0lR5Zx1Tt5CI6v3f-buPsUo4

Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games is out now for 3DS and Wii U.
Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice is out for the 3DS on September 27th.
The Sonic X seasons 1 and 2 collection will be released September 27th.

Sonic Boom's first season has ended! You can watch all of the first season's episodes in English here:
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/sonic-boom
Season 2 will air later this year.

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PAX today, boys. Mania gameplay videos when?
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>>153459738
Not really that interested in new gameplay videos unless they have something new to show. I'm hoping for more info through interviews.
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>>153459738
I just want more info of project 2017
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nth for sally
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>>153460018
Gonna be quite awhile until we get more info on that, I think. Probably early next year.
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>>153459738
There wont be any
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slow
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>>153460994
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>>153460994
I'm right here anon, waiting for PAX news
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>>153460994
At work ;_;
At least I have you guys
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>Go home
>see this
what do?
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>>153462024
burn my bed
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>>153462024
Call pest control.
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>>153462024
Let her rest.
Watch her sleep, never once leave her side.

When she awakens, caress her tenderly and make her eat all the eggs.
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>>153462024
Well, i will consider to stop mixing those weird LSD's with mah weed.
But for, real. Well prepare food for her, then ask her how she turned up in my hous and specialy in my bed. Like, was he just going for a walk, saw that anon's house and deiceded it would be ok to go to sleep there?
Any option to fuck is not considered since it is gross on all the levels. Fapping to mobians on the internet? Yeah, it is weird but ok. Fucking as human/mobian is just not ok at all. Maybe i would think about that if i would be mobian.
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>>153462743
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What the fuck is that picture.
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>>153463631
This is cute but kinda sad
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>>153463347
Yeaaaaaaaaaahhh, right, maybe male mobian/female human is probably would be ok, but male human/mobian fema, well that's fucking just so wrong man. And if that's so, they should probably be child free, because i don't wan't to even think about how their children would be looking. Or how femal human will give a birth to hedgehogs.

Well, Rouge/Topaz had verry interesting relationships in Sonix X, but like best friends or something.
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>>153462024
get in bed. go to sleep. I've had a long day I deserve a nap.
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>>153463871
>sad
why?
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>>153464002
>i don't wan't to even think about how their children would be looking
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Nth for please remake sonic 06
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>>153463871
That's the idea.
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>>153464002
>tfw Topaz is gone and will never be in the comic because of rights issues
I really need the current Universe arc to end with Madonna and a bunch of G.U.N soldiers showing up to save the day by pumping Nagus full of hot lead. Cause so far, Not-Topaz has done just about jack shit, which brings to mind the question of why they even bothered to introduce her.
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>>153465365
anon, even if the gameplay was perfect, I don't think there's a way to fix that story
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>>153464323
well, nekomimi is explaineble, but cat tail? Well at least she should have canonical hedgehog tail from Sonic or something. Still it looks so straaaange...

Anyway, i prefer for mobians spiecies relationships, rather then hymen.
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>>153464202
cause Chip died :_:
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>>153465968
Well, everybody die someday.
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>>153466174
Is Shadow immortal?
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>>153465968
>Chip died
And nothing of value was lost
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>>153465968
Thank god for that.
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>>153466512
>>153466597
You guys are fucking heartless
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>>153466697
Chip was an annoying piece of shit who had no personality outside of "I like food"
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>>153466697
This is the fanbase that is inlove with Shadow. What you thought was going to happen.
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>>153466412
Nope i think, or it could be something else. Like, he could live for eternity, but as any normal entity can go mad because of living so much, remembering so much. It will considere a death at some point or rebirth or something.
Well, he could live like a Badass Highlander (only without cutting heads and screaming while Princes of The Universe is playing in background) fucking mobian bitches, living the dream and protecting Mobius from enemies. But eventually he will be surrounded by that fact that everybody dies in the end. Or you know, he could meet some one immortal as he, and even then when everybody will die on a planet, they will need to start a life on a planet in Adam & Eve style or something.
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>>153466823
Who doesn't love Shadow?
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>>153466864
>remembering so much.
I don't think that would be a problem for Shadow.
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>someone finally removed the double links in the OP
good job OP
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>>153466697
He was so fucking annoying. The game would have been better without his retarded ass.
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>>153469117
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>>153469365
Tell me one good thing about Chip.
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>>153469365
Exactly. No fun was allowed in the game because we had to put up with Chip's bullshit.
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>>153469465
He's adorable and has cute interactions with Sonic.

He also pilots a Voltron consisting of buildings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ERuhks3GNk
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>>153469592
>He's adorable and has cute interactions with Sonic.
No he wasn't. He was annoying with an annoying goddamn voice and I didn't believe for a second that Sonic could like someone like him
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>>153469592
>He's adorable
That's debatable.
>and has cute interactions with Sonic.
So does Tails and Amy. Your point?
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Regardless if you like Chip or not, don't tell me you didn't feel at least A LITTLE sad when he sacrificed himself?
https://youtu.be/KEGKcWHqhZQ
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>>153469592
The only thing Chip has going for him is the fact he'll never show up again.
The moment he's finally gone in the comic will be a happy day.
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Do you guys even consider an idea of creating a local fan character for 4chan board? Like, we got a Bamp and Sage, but would it would be awesome if there will be typical 4chan characters set in /stgh/? Not for any weird Sonic RP or something or overbuffed Merry Sew characters (like ShadowCloneMegaDeth the foxbatthedgehogs 9000)
Like, what your opinion? Also, it is interesting how it could backfire if applyied.
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>>153470264
No
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>>153470264
>Do you guys even consider an idea of creating a local fan char
No
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"Sonic, what are you doing here?"

"I heard you were on a quest for the Master Emerald."

"You know me and you don't get along."

"I don't think that's the point right now, Knuckles. I know how much that emerald means to you and I wanna help get it back.
Stop bein' stubborn and think."

"Well, I guess you're right."

"Ya damn right Knuckles. I know Eggman's secret station's here somewhere. All we have to do is find it. I know we'll need a key to get inside. That's our only way to find it. So let's go."
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>>153470264
No
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>>153470404
>"Ya damn
You ruined it.
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>How about taking me back to the casbah and laying some bricks?

What did he mean by this?
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>>153470494
>He didn't get it.
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>>153466608
>>153466898
Man I need more of Rouge flustering people by flirting with them at inopportune times.
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>>153469465
He'll never appear in the games ever again.
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>>153470494
It's from the lyrics of one of Knuckles' SA2 songs.
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>>153471786
Neither will anyone created after 3&K
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what song is better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sn9h6iPC-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=697uVuJWRFg
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>>153472236
And the games are better off for it
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>>153470139
It was at the very end of the game, so of course I was sad.
Sad it didn't happen sooner.
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>>153470356
>>153470385
>>153470448
Welp, that's fine i think :)
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anyone got a compilation pic of all the times Tails got his heart broken?
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>>153473239
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>>153462024
sleep tight hogger
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>>153473445
She's so gross looking.
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>>153462024
Take pictures and upload them. Then demand payment for my scientific discovery and hand her off to the FBI.
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>>153473785
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>>153473785
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>>153473239
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>>153462024
Make breakfast. And ask my wife when the fuck we got such a fancy bed.
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>>153473946
Why must Tails suffer so much?
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ALL ABOARD!
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>>153474293
Already been storytimed. In fact it got storytimed less than 2 days ago
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>>153474354
oh in that case I'll stop, cheers anon.
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>>153473239

>>153474252
It cannot be helped. It is his destiny

>>153474354
Eh, no highquality digital though. Besides it's not like we have anything else going on right now. Go for it, Conductor-san.
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>>153474293
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm sorry.
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>>153474783
it's okay I got another thing I can storytime
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>>153474471
Tails doesnt deserve such a life.
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>>153474907
>I got another thing I can storytime
Go on...
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>>153474907
I wasn't laughing at you. Your post just brought this to mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMR5zf1J1Hs
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>>153474907
Sea3on?
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>>153467947
Shadow is only good when he's being mocked or made fun of. He's the embodiment of the direction SEGA and Sonic Team took that made the franchise a complete joke.
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>>153475569
Funny, because Shadow himself normally had relatively good gameplay and it was mainly gameplay that made the franchise a joke.
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Has there ever been an origin for the Chaos Emeralds or the Master Emerald?
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>>153475569
This. Thankfully he's no longer relevant, nor is anyone introduced during the Adventure era. God the new characters from them were so bad. Thankfully Sega realized they were a mistake and have now just pretended they don't exist in the main series
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>>153475569
He was introduced when Sonic was still considered good. What hell are you talking about.
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>>153475023
>>153475216
On my thrift adventures today I came across this, so naturally I had to pick it up. If you guys want I can storytime it here. It's actually got some really neat illustrations.

And yeah it's really by a company called Troll Associates. I know.
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>>153475907
Go right ahead and post it.
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>>153475907
Do it
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New set 25th Anniversary wallpapers courtesy of the social media accounts: http://imgur.com/a/thsOf

>Here's to you, Blaze fans
THEY KNOW
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Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin.
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>>153476451
>Ruled by a kind king
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>In a time long since forgotten, two small islands coexisted in harmony. Be’en, known for its rolling hills, and Kalow, an atoll of pristine lakes. The isle of Be’en had been slowly drifting towards its sister island, and so the two tribes strived to unite just as their land was.

>One day, a small satellite appeared over the sky of Kalow, whom the locals took as a sign of the gods blessing them. Those of Be’en took great offense, saying they were both blessed. The unity that was to be their combined world instead became that of turmoil, what had been promised vanishing in an instant.

>Thinking that their blessings would become evident if they made it to the mysterious land above, both peoples plotted to somehow make it up there. As the war raged, they made it to the surface, and discovered the secret this little planet held: the Time Stones.
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>Learning that these gems were able to control time itself, the warring tribes desires became dark. Seeking to slip into the past, they thought the best way to win was to stop the war from happening at all, erasing their enemies. When the stones made it to Earth and were used, the battle of a thousand years happened in but three seconds. The two civilizations thrived, died, and blinked into almost nothing.

>With only the faintest hint that anyone once lived upon the land, the gods took back the Time Stones, making sure they were safe. As Be’en finally merged with Kalow, the Never Lake shimmered as the Little Planet disappeared back into the mysterious space it came from.

>The names of the two tribes faded, and those who would later settle the whole of the isle would rename its rolling hills. Sensing in the air that something else once thrived there, the whispers of a forgotten past and a destined future inspired them to call their home Mirage Island.

Thank you based memers.
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>>153476547
>>Be'en
>Kalow
Oh you motherfucker
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>>153476547
>>153476712
Huh?
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>>153475907
Wait a minute, I FUCKING OWNED THIS BOOK AS A KID. I've been looking for the title of this book for YEARS
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>>153475887
SA2 was the last 3D game to have decent critical reception until Colors.

What I mean is that Shadow is presented as a dark, serious character in a series that originally took aesthetic inspiration from old theatrical cartoons like Felix the Cat. Imagine Daffy Duck or some other cartoon character scowling and carrying around realistic-looking guns (pump-action SMG in StH's opening movie notwithstanding) while occasionally pausing to whinge about their dead little sister and wanting to kill all humanity. Better yet, look at that edgy Looney Toons reboot that was on Kids' WB in the mid-2000s.

Not saying that Shadow isn't salvageable or should never appear in any Sonic media again (the comics under Ian do a great job of consolidating all the Naruto-tier DARKNESS faggotry and cartoony wacky stuff into a mostly stable and entertaining Saturday morning cartoon-esque tone), it's just that his inception and origin is questionable at best.
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>>153476985
glad I could help anon
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>>153475907
>Oh man, we got this hip and rad franchise with two big games and a cartoon series
>What other kind of merchandise can we make for this franchise
>A..... book?
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>>153477034
Honestly I think he and the rest of the Adventure era cast should be contained to the comic. Really, just ignore everyting from 3&K to Colors, at least in terms of stories and characters. Your mileage may vary on gameplay
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That's right! It's black haired sally!
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>>153477587
I never liked Antoine's SaTAM design
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>>153477686
His Archie design was pretty much the same except "modernized".
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>>153477759
And I think it worked out well for him. Really, I just don't like his SaTAM face
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>>153465717
butt anon what if it all turned out to b a dreeeeeeeeem
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>>153477828
>Rotor, the sea lion
So he wasn't always a Walrus?
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>>153473946
>>153474471

cucktails, anyone?
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The illustrations in the book are great, this artist went on to do some stuff after too
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>>153476303
kek
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I love how it's clearly AoSTH Robotnik too.
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Sally: master tactician
Robotnik: complete dumbass?
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>Tails's
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>>153474354
Fuck. I missed it. I haven't been in the threads as much lately.
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>>153480163
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>>153479320
In the case of proper nouns, it is acceptable to put and apostrophe and 's' at the end to show possession.
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>>153478553
Aaron why
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>>153481352
>>153481541
>>153481737
You know this might be my favorite interpretation to how Bunnie became partially roboticized.
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>>153482268
I enjoyed it too, that and it being that I randomly found this thing I just had to share. It has nice illustrations too. They are all a bit blasé about bunnie being ro bo machine'd though.
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and that's it!
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>>153482675
Thanks anon
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>>153475689
Wasn't Adventure 1 the backstory?
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>>153482675
thanks for the storytime anon
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>>153475689
Nope. There was one in issue 148 of the comics, but that was retconned in 165 and beyond. And then the Genesis Wave retconned that retcon of that information which was also retconned. We may never know the story behind them, but perhaps it's better that way.
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>>153483010
>>153483215
np you guys, hope it was worth the read. Now to wait patiently until the next comic release
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>>153475569
This is so true for games Shadow. BOOM Shadow is worthless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQMEAh5rhsc
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>>153483887
All Shadows are worthless.
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>>153484008
Just like every character created between SA1 and Black Knight
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>>153484085
And Knuckles
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>>153484135
And Amy. Really anyone besides Sonic, Tails, Eggman, Orbot, and Cubot has any place in the games.
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>>153483887
I love Shadow but I think he was there just to exist.
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>>153484598
Not this bullshit again...
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>>153484731
Am I wrong though? Everyone else just detracts from the series' reputation and that's the last thing this franchise needs
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>>153484818
are you seriously implying that cubot and orbot bring more to the franchise than amy and knuckles?
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>>153484598
>>153484818
Go to bed Iizuka
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>>153484970
Amy is known as the psycho stalker and Knuckles is mocked for being dumb. Both of those bring down the series rep. At least Orbot and Cubot are inoffensive enough to not do that
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>>153484970
Theyre a league better than Scratch and Grounder.
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>>153485098
Knuckles is not dumb though hes just naive
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>>153485206
and by that you mean that they are watered down less interesting versions of Scratch and Grounder. They give no real good jokes/ commentary. At least Scratch and Grounder could carry an episode if needed because they have more then 1 personality trait.
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>>153485386
He has a reputation as the dumb one though. And that kind of rep is damaging to Sonic
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>>153484970
I'd argue the Doctor is a lot better with two bumbling sidekicks, if Sonic Colors, the Archie comics and the Sonic Boom cartoon are anything to go by.

I have nothing against Amy and Knux, in fact I love Archie Amy and I wouldn't do away with her but if I had to choose between having Eggbotnik with Orbot and Cubot or Amy shoehorned into a game I'd choose the nincombots any day of the week.
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>>153485468
But isn't Boom Knuckles well received despite being smart as a bag of rocks?
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>>153485457
Don't reply to the faggot.
>carry an episode
Probably helped that they're 2 of the 6 reoccuring characters in the show.
>>153485468
Not really, that just means he's dumb. The strong but dumb stereotype dates back to shit like the Three Stooges and beyond. Doesn't mean shit for the rep. Bad games mean a lot for the rep.
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>>153485468
You can thank Boom for this. Boom fucking SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS.
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>>153485098
>>153485206
Knuckles was introduced as a rival and didn't really become a dipshit until later. Yeah he was tricked in his first game but that was legit motivation to have them fight and team up in the second half of the game. 2D knuckles was valuable. He added a new gameplay style for people who didn't want to FAST as much and wanted to explore instead.

Eggman doesn't really need scratch/grounder OR cubot/orbot. I don't see why he needs minions except to explain his plans to, functionally they're just story devices and the series doesn't really need story, nor has it ever been known that story is the franchises strength so they could go and we wouldn't lose much.

Amy is the girl (tm) she gets in on representation, a goal to accomplish ie rescue and just because she's cute. Also again, the stalker thing only happened later. 2D amy was valid.

It seems to me that your complaints are valid about those characters in regards to their later appearances ie their flanderised forms. But they did originally serve purposes and were pretty alright at their jobs. I mean if we're talking strictly in a gameplay sense, I think they're all valid characters. But they're just not always being utilised well. But that's the old argument of there is no such thing as a bad character only a bad writer.
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>>153485468
>damaging to Sonic
How so?
He's laughably dumb in recent Tv and games but before he was kinda easy to trick into things, he was also headstrong, kinda edgy but not really, had a lot of knowledge on ancient mobian stuff. He has some depth or atleast he did.
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>>153485765
Fine, get rid of Orbot/Cubot and replace them with Amy because we need someone with a vagina. But that's it
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SA1-Black Knight is literally the greatest Sonic's ever been. The story, tone and characters introduced during this time period is absolutely fucking perfect and it's how Sonic should and ALWAYS be.

[/spoiler]Fight me, faggots
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>>153485682
I mean yeah them being in the main cast helps. Though I found them entertaining because they would fight with one another and also they we're like brothers kinda like the stooges in away.
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>>153485829
mobius doesn't exist in the games you bumbling idiot
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Knuckles offers more to the series than shadow for sure. After his success we got silver and that is way too many hedgehogs. The series worked better when sonic was unique, not when he had like 5 clones. At least vary the species and give them different traits. Fists vs Feet, Speed vs Strength, that works. All we really needed for a fourth was a swimmer. Speed, Flight, Tunnelling and Swimming would be the full range of motion for gameplay. If they made Amy the Swimmer we'd fill that need and I think it'd make an interesting dynamic. You could do something like Heroes or Boom with the instaswap character function (like how Yai is the swimmer in Goemon's Great Adventure) and make swimming fun instead of water being a punishment.
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>>153485978
>giant shark abominations, Shadow's game, and 06 as a whole were absolutely perfect and it's how Sonic should and ALWAYS be
Sounds like you're always gonna be gay.
>>153486001
You also probably grew up with the show and didn't realize they're a shittier Bugs Bunny+Daffy Duck combo. Them fighting with each other was petty and only served to let Sonic get away or foil their plan, etc. It was more annoying than it was endearing.
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Brawl or Sm4sh?
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>>153485978
I want another story book Sonic. Theyre cute.
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>>153486446
Brawl's for sure
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>>153486446
For what?
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>>153486446
Sm4sh.
And for those that couldn't tell, Brawl's is on the right.
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>>153486446
Sm4sh because he's officially a god tier character.
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>>153486328
You got me. To me it was endearing but I can understand why people wouldn't like them.. but i'd rather take characters with fun personalities then characters with 1 note personalities
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>>153487041
>but i'd rather take characters with fun personalities then characters with 1 note personalities
You say that but here you are taking Scratch and Grounder.
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>>153486446
Sm4sh by far. The design, the way he moves, the side mouth. Everything about Sm4sh sonic works and moves way better.
I still say they need to change one of his spindashes to something else but I guess they both have different utilities so it's not a big issue
I wouldn't mind him having the light dash, boost or bounce bracelet attack as replace one of them though.
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>>153487208
Well tell me, How do orbot and cubot have more than scratch and grounder
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>>153487369
I'm not saying they do. But neither do Scratch and Grounder. However, Cubot and Orbot at least play off of each other with the smart/stupid duo while Scratch and Grounder are both idiots.
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>>153487604
Thos is why I like them. Orbot being sassy is at least entertaining.
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>>153487604
Well, I can atleast get behind liking Orbot but I don't think Cubot adds anything to the cast nor does he compliment Orbot
Just being stupid alone is not entertaining
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>>153488067
>nor does he compliment Orbot
It would help my case if their interactions weren't almost solely written by P&G but you're wrong.
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Suggest your favorite fan hacks/games and I might play them.
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Why are you still a Sonic fan?
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>>153488067
Kid friendly humor?
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>thinking Knuckles is in any way a bad character
This is my least favorite meme tbqh
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>>153488705
The comics and nostalgia.
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>>153488705
Because I enjoy the games and comics.
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>>153488641
Sonic Boom
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>>153488705
I'm just waiting for Adventure 3
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>>153489182
You've got 06 and Unleashed, and that's the closest we're gonna get for a long time.
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>>153488705
It's a part of me. I've been a fan since the beginning in 91 and am really invested into not just the franchise but Sega as a whole.

I still greatly enjoy the adventures and don't think I'll ever tire of it. If it died off completely, I wouldn't be me anymore. Thankfully, even if the unlikely event of Sega going under, Sonic will still be around as a valuable IP.
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>>153488705
Grew up with the series. I am in it to the grave.
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>>153488705
Huge Eggman fan, I kind of have to. The franchise has grown on me a lot over the years. I love most of the games, even some of questionable quality. I also love the comics.
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>>153488705
this
>>153489634
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Out of all the GBA games. Which had the best Soundtrack?
Sonic Advance?
Sonic Pinball Party?
Sonic Advance 2?
Sonic Battle?
or Sonic Advance 3?
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>>153489776
Advanced 2
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>>153489642
Eggman's eyes are WHITE
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>>153489905
Yeah, unlike you, you nigger.

Is there a dispute over the color of his eyes or something? I think I missed that one.
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>>153486092
Sega cofirmed there are two worlds and Sonic word is separated from the human world.
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>>153485206
Just no.
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>>153488705
Mania.
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>>153490494
Source?
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⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ out of ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Sonic games
Post em
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>>153490494
>taking anything from that fucking IDIOT Webber seriously

All the games are set on Earth. No ifs ands or buts about it.
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>>153490494
Except this was disputed multiple times by SoE
Don't trust Mememan to tell you everything
play the games, form your own opinion
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ONE TWO THREE FOUR
bring in the wax and spin in the sound!
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>>153491518
>Calling the Meme Man a idiot
Get out, also it's "Sonic's World" not Earth. They got tired of you fucks arguing about it being Earth or Mobius.
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>>153491897
>bring in the wax
Is that what it really said?
I always though it was "sit and relax"
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https://youtu.be/pKYLATrnvDE

Song that plays during 22:38? Is it from Sonic 06? Its nice sounding. Composer?
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When did the Sonic start REALLY blowing up?
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>>153491942
>They got tired of you fucks arguing about it being Earth or Mobius
What if both?
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>>153492515
When Eggman launched him out of the Ark.
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>>153492552
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>>153492705
Top Kek
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>>153492705
How did Eggman know the Chaos Emerald was a fake?
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>>153490432
Blue, red, black, who cares? It's all the same egg
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http://www.seganerds.com/2016/08/31/a-change-org-petition-asks-the-u-s-to-change-its-national-anthem-to-city-escape-from-sonic-adventure-2/

What would you rather have: an unsingable anthem with a tune taken from a drinking song or an anthem from a Sonic the motherfucking hedgehog game?
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>>153492976
Because you just told him, fuckboi.
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>>153492423
Nope it's from Shadow the Hedgehog.
https://youtu.be/N7WsKu7WDK0
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>>153492976
Fox boy told him
(though in reality it might have been the real one that got blown up in the ark's cannon.)

>>153493071
I'd care.
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>>153490432
He has steely blue eyes in '06.
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>>153492976
>>153493170
>>153493271
Also, the cutscene before Cosmic Wall had him detecting two Emeralds when he already had six. Even Knuckles could deduce what was wrong from that.
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>>153493230
Look at that angry hog. Don't ya just wanna hug him?
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>>153490432
>nigger
We don'y say that here.
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>>153492515
what do you mean by 'blow up'?

Like when his popularity blew up? That would probably be when Sonic 1 or Sonic 2 was released. Whatever game immediately preceded the cartoons and explosion of merch and advertising

Or when his popularity as a meme blew up? Probably after 06 was released but it didn't get so bad until Game Grumps did their Let's Play of it. After they did their Sonic Adventure DX and Sonic 3 Let's Plays, that's when everyone started spouting "Sonic was never good"

Orrr did you mean when the series started going downhill? Personally, I think that Heroes started it. I remember it being marketed as "a return to Sonic's roots, but in 3D" but ultimately it felt like a poor man's Adventure title. It had multiple playable characters, but they're basically all the same. It had a story, but it was watered down and made no sense. You played different the game from different characters' points of view but their stages are all the same. It tried to be Adventure 3 but failed pretty miserably. Likewise, it was nothing like the old genesis games.
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>>153492515
>>153492705
fuck I meant the Sonic Twitter
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>>153493167
Signed
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>>153494002
"REST EASY HEROES"

God fucking damn it. Who knew that after Sonic Adventure 2 Heroes would suck so much dick that it almost tasted like bile in my mouth.
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>>153488705
I grew up on classic Sonic, and was never exposed to 3D Sonics.

Like after Sonic Mega Collection there's this huge gap with only the Advance trilogy/Sonic Battle and the comics, so I was somewhat spared of all the baggage. Looking back now its probably because I was a poorfag and couldn't afford many console games.

Basically I was a casual fan whose investment petered off at the right moment. Now Mania has sucked me back into this rabbit hole and I'm morbidly entertained by all the stupid Sonic 06 and Boom crap among other things. Here I am obsessively playing the Taxman Sonic 1 mobile port and buying Sonic CD on Steam... Send help. I may bravely attempt to play a 3D Sonic but I don't know what to start on... SA2, Sonic Colors or Lost World? (I've played Sonic Adventure DX about a year ago).
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>>153488705
still holding on to what if
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>>153494461
Play Sonic 06 first so everything afterwards feels 10/10
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>>153493230
Why is he so mad? Did someone take his Happy Meal toy?
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>>153493654
Last I checked only /co/ and /cgl/ not use it.
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>>153495158
>Poppy O'Possum
wut?
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>>153495209
Its because he was represented in a dance Jpop/kpop dance video. He did not like it one bit.
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>>153464002
>And if that's so, they should probably be child free, because i don't wan't to even think about how their children would be looking


If it ever happened, they'd probably just go with kids either being human or mobian completely physically
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>>153485468
>And that kind of rep is damaging to Sonic

Let's be honest, what ISN'T damaging to Sonic at this point?
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>>153495659
But m-flo is good though.
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>>153495981
An autist streaming Sonic 3 and knuckles for 15 hours straight playing thru each character with all emeralds?
I can't find anything more damaging to the player and the series watching that.
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>>153488705
To be honest, the comics. The games since Generations have done nothing for me while the comics have both kept my interest and reminded me of what I loved in the first place. Also replaying the Classics helped, as has the the Mania announcement
>>153495158
That's nice
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>>153495981
Better question to ask is what rep is left to damage.
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>>153496160
Jesus christ that sounds like a nightmare. I imagine it would be boring
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>>153496160
>I can't find anything more damaging to the player and the series watching that.
A autist streaming Sonic 06 for 15 hours straight speedrunning thru each story to get all medals, achievements and a new PB
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>>153493071
Mother of Mercy, the blue eyed one looks like some sort of rabid viking rapist, with that smile and gaze. I'd rather stumble into the black eyed one in a dark alley thank you.
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>>153496473
Again, Metamorphia really doesn't belong in this image.
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>>153495623
A pretty good webcomic
poppy-opossum.com
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>>153493071
"I'M GONNA RAPE YOU!"
Shame Mike Pollock would never say that ever. It would fit him so well.
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Ah, damn did I miss the fight with Sonic vs the Egg Dragoon? I saw that Team Dark, Knuckles and Amy jobbed to Wally
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>>153496774
>>153497129

I think he's rather handsome, desu
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>>153497146
No, that's not coming till later.
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>>153497440
Imagine him as a bishie
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>>153497624
Yay, hopefully during one of my off days from work
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>>153497645
I like to think that Eggman was a beautiful person at a young age, then he turned fucking insane and looks the way he does now
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>>153497645
No thank you. I like my Eggmen fat and disproportionate as possible.
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>>153497645
>No Walrus mustache
Get out
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>>153497645
>>153498152
I prefer my eggy dorky-cute
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>>153498467
That guy's Robotnik Junior is still one of my favourite designs.

Although young Eggman done well is always awesome.
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>>153493071
Blue eyes a best.
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>>153499236
BLOWS UP!?
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>>153499236
He's looking for that DAMN fourth chaos emerald.
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>>153499476
Faker? I think he's the fake hedgehog around here. You're comparing shadow to him? He's not good enough to be his fa-
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>>153499761
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>>153500186
Why would he cosplay like that
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>>153500330
Because it's "random" and "funny" because he's a boy dressing like a girl get it? xDDD

He's probably going to come out as trans in a year or two
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>>153500330
Trying to out do J. Nig.
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>>153500781
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What if there was a spin-off of new Sonic characters where the gameplay is more like Phoenix Wright/Danganronpa? Would you play it for the despair?
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>>153500985
>>153501281
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>>153502776
I don't what this DanganRomba is but there is already enough despair in the Sonic Franchise.
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>>153488705
I'm very emotionally invested in the characters
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Holy shit I actually manage to soft lock on the Silver Sonic fight. I think I heard this glitch was frame perfect. I fucked up frame perfectly.
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I want Walter Nagus to win
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>>153494983
LIVE AND LEARN!
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>>153502776
That one secret FF was literally Hopeman.
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>>153503573
>1 life left
you fucked up a lot more than perfectly
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>>153504237
I was having a pretty bad run near the end, in sky fortress I kept falling off.
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>>153503573
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>>153504593
Honey makes me feel better
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>>153493071
Black eyes Eggman the best.

>Orbot, what color is my heart?
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>>153505480
>I see no heart sir
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>>153493071
I think blue eyes fit his game self the best, but that's just me.

Is it ever explained why his eyes are black in western media? AoStH seems like they were exaggerated dark bags, but SatAM always gave the impression that they were artificial implants or something.
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>>153505480
>Black eyes Eggman
Looks stupid and out of place in the series, especially for the character.
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>>153504593
Need more of that sweet Honey.
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>>153506147
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>>153476303
coolest

Isn't this resolution a bit weird for a wallpaper, though?
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>>153506253
I wonder if she'll get new clothes anytime soon. No top designer wears the same thing forever.
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>>153506490
Phone wallpapers, you dongus.
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>>153470404
Actually read this in their voices. It's so weird.
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>>153506660
My phone is a couple of years old and has a 1920x1080 screen. I thought most would use this resolution by now, and would need an even bigger wallpaper if the user wanted a scrolling wallpaper.
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/sthg/ what is this?
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>>153507760
Looks like the front of a shirt.
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WE
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>>153475689
Sort of, yes. The Master Emerald was created by the gods to control the Chaos Emeralds, 'cause the Chaos Emeralds were being abused and causing civilizations to be destroyed and stuff.
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>>153476547
>>153476712
...is this official?
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>>153508569
WUZ
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>>153508847
No, but until Sega makes Episode III, it might as well be. Not like the backstory is official, either way
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>>153505913
They were probably basing him off of his American Classic Sonic boxart.
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>>153508710
>created by the gods
Which gods?
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>>153487604
I like Scratch and Grounder, but I also like Orbot and Cubot. They're both entertaining in their own way.
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>>153508710
>>153509550
Daily reminder that anything from Chronicles will never ever be canon
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>>153510151
I believed he was talking about what happened in SA1
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>>153510230
But SA1 never mentioned anything about gods or the M.E.'s origin.
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>>153510230
Nope, the whole gods thing was all Chronicles.

>>153510450
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>>153510230
I was talking about what was said in the Sonic 3 Japanese manual.
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First for shilling. We're gonna draw in a bit. Come make friends
https://discord.gg/gbbEFbM
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>>153510905
Nope, that was the American manual for the Sonic & Knuckles Collection for PC.
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>>153510151
Except that it fills in gaps of the canon.
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>>153510151
it's still semi-canon in archie
otherwise Fixit and ancient echilada tech wouldn't still be a thing
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Have there been any new gameplay videos from PAX or what?
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>>153512664
PAX doesn't start until Friday.
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>>153513006
oh shit
I swear saw something that said it was today
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>>153513041
Maybe this guy >>153459738
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>>153512037
Why would Bioware copied almost all concepts from Pender anyway?
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>>153488705
i just want my Sonic Battle 2
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just about to start watching Sonic Q but has there ever been a good sonic abridged series?
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>Debug is disable on Taxman's Sonic 1
>His CD no longer in the market
What the fuck Sega?
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>>153514707
>FUCK JET THE HAWK
The Babylon Rouges will always be my favorite characters
Wave is best girl
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>>153515379
>His CD no longer in the market
The android version seems to be only available through Amazon now.
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>>153515314
Sonic for Hire was pretty funny
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>>153479320
>classic Sonic that looks like Classic Sonic
I'm surprised
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>>153515314
Sonic F. Been awhile so my memory is fuzzy. I dont remember disliking it.
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>>153516036
I WANT IT
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>>153515857
Avacado
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>>153475689
The Master Emerald was created when Turbo Tails defeated Mammoth Mogul
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>>153462024
Make her eat ALL the eggs.
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is sonic worth fighting for? Or should we just let it die?
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>>153517791
Sonic can fight for himself, he's a grown ass hedgehog.
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>>153486446
Sm4sh, but I wish he'd make expressions other than that dumb grin.

I haven't actually played much of Sm4sh at all so I don't really know what he looks like in motion.
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>>153486836
Sonic has always been an obnoxiously OP character, in brawl and sm4sh.
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>>153517896
He's 15.
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>>153488705
Because I'm an autist who likes simple, expressive characters and arcade-style video games that let you go fast.
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>>153488705
The nostalgia and amy rose, she's a cutie.
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>>153517791
No, we shouldn't just let it die. Yes, Sonic is worth fighting for.

It doesn't matter now what happens. Sega should never give up the fight. As long as fans and investors tell them to keep making games and to fight, it doesn't matter who is wrong and who is right.
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>>153518043
If you think Sonic was OP in Brawl, you are a terrible Smash Bros player. He's been at the bottom of every tier list ever since a few years after launch
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>>153518070
Old enough
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>>153518043
Sonic was not OP in brawl. iirc he was one of the absolute worst characters because all of his moves had terrible priority. In Project M though, he's pretty good.
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>>153474471
>...robbed me of my innocence!
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>>153518435
Sonic was super fast and hit a lot, and his Final Smash was the most powerful. That meant that 9/10 times he got the smash orb, which meant he won
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>>153517896
I want to take care of him
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Random question:

What kind of animal person/mobian do you guys see Eggman fit as?
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>>153519160
egg
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have a rapid fire amy
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>>153519160
a cock
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>>153486446
Sm4sh
He's really cute.
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>>153508418
Is that for the SEGA 3D rereleases? I want to see more of that image.
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>>153516336
never anon
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>reading posts where people are livid that Sega is making another Boom game
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>>153520807
>youtube got shittier again
Wow.
What a big surprise.
I'm gonna have a heart attack from that surprise, etc. etc.
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>>153520996
If you survive your heart attack remember that your internet experience just got a bit worse.
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>>153520807
I'm willing to bet that these "controversial topics" are connected to Rouge's tig ol bitties.
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I need more Naugus now. I can't bear o see him for just one more issue.
Maybe he'll be in the Chaotix arc.
Or the Genesis of a Hero arc.
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>>153520807
> Youtube thinks that "Sonic was never good" is so widespread an opinion that "SA2 is good" counts as incendiary controversy
Wew lad
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>>153522908
>Maybe he'll be in the Chaotix arc
Likely as a cameo, because the villain in that arc will either be that otter from one of the recent covers or Abyss.
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>>153523138
>Likely as a cameo, because the villain in that arc will either be that otter from one of the recent covers or Abyss.
That otter is a crew member calling it now. Either that or someone commanding one of Abyss' smaller ships
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>>153523371
It's possible but not very likely that Abyss isn't in control of all the pirates out there, but even if she wasn't then the situation could be a good opportunity for a power-grab.

I'm really looking forward to seeing her kick ass at some point. Ruthlessly.
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>>153524808
I seriously doubt the comic's going to introduce a pirate themed villain 2 arcs prior to this and then have an arc that mainly features pirates without having her play a major role in it
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>>153525014
Of course she will. I never said she won't, just that she might not be in control of every single pirate out there on the south seas yet.
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goodnight anons.
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Honey is basically the rise kujikawa of sonic
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>>153526007
Then who is Chie?
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>>153526082
Sticks maybe?
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>>153526242
But Sticks doesn't have an obsession with meat.
I wish Sticks was obsessed with my meat...
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my favorite sonic-related media is Sonic Underground
I'm completely serious
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>>153526007
Honey is too cute
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I'm kind of disappointed in how certain characters in this franchise have ended up. I thought Rouge would be a really cool super spy who;s alliegances are as unclear as her agenda and she's the least trustworthy person you could possibly come across. The kind of person who would kiss you and then sell you out for money and gems.

But no she turned into a loyal bitch for Shadow and both of them are just goons of the government now along with the murderbot. What a shame
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Do you guys think there is any chance at all that Mania will have DLC where you can play as other characters, like Amy or Blaze for example?
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>>153527512
I'd like to see them, but I doubt it.
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>>153527338
But Rouge was in the government's pocket since day one.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA9yMvLjii8
what the fuck did I just stumble across
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>>153527338
>But no she turned into a loyal bitch for Shadow and both of them are just goons of the government now along with the murderbot. What a shame
And that's a bad thing, because...? Besides, she became friends with those two after Heroes.
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>>153526721
That's not completely bad. Underground had a lot of good elements in its favor, and if they cut some of the bad shit out (Forced musicals, just anything to do with music; All 3 main characters being voiced by the same person), then it'd probably be an alright show.

>>153527338
But Rouge has worked for GUN since SA2. And Shadow willingly joined GUN after realizing that they weren't the same organization they were 50 years ago. Even the GUN Commander felt a little sorry after Shadow the Hedgehog.
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>>153527512
Amy, I would be likely. Dunno about Blaze
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>Nintendo direct starts
>Sega
>Alpha Dream
>yfw
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>>153527664
Yeah, I know. That's kind of boring. I'd like it more if that wasn't so clear. That perhaps she only pretends to work for them but only uses them as a cover for her own agendas. Basically turn her into a minor villain. Hell, might as well share my ideas for the rest of Team Dark

Shadow: Like Sonic, he's a world traveler, but instead of sightseeing with his best friend and going on fun adventures, he's basically a vigilante dispensing his own personal brand of justice. He wishes to dispose of Eggman once and for all, and constantly dodging/battling law enforcement and occasionally getting into scraps with Sonic

Omega: Rogue robot that went missing after the events of Heroes. Has a one track mind of "See Eggman robot, kill Eggman robot". Thankfully it's only prrogrammed to destroy Eggman's creations for now
>>153527751
Because it's boring as hell. The spy aspect stopped being played with in an interesting way
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>>153527512
>Amy
Maybe.
>Blaze
No.
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>>153527747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zIVC521RiE
Man, this model looks like it came straight off of Crash Bandicoot
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>>153527512
Maybe it'll have some DLC, depending how it goes. They don't seem as stupid now to let an opportunity like that pass if the game does well.
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>>153527512
>tfw remembering all the hype I had about Generations having DLC levels
>all that wasted potential
I hope so, but I'm not gonna go with that wishful thinking again
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>>153528257
I imagine they'd save it for a sequel maybe.
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>>153527512
Steam Workshop enabled.
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I'm bored and want to do something creative. Give me a character and I'll reimagine them
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>>153527881
What the fuck would come out of that?
Are you expecting some fucking Super Mario Bros. Z shit? Hell no. That shit's amusing as an old flash movie series and the animation's great but the story is fucking horrible. And besides that it wouldn't work well as a game, especially if made by AlphaDream, the guys that make turnbased RPGs.
Unless you're asking for a Sonic RPG by the people who know good RPGs, in which case I am 100% into that.
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>>153528789
Why the fuck would you think of that first one?
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>>153528764
Blaze as a Dog
aka
bitch in heat
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>>153528764
Sticks in non-boom style.
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>>153528789
>but the story is fucking horrible
Better anything Sega made.
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>>153528984
Not quite what I meant but okay

...Honesty her being a different species wouldn't change much. But what I would do with Blaze is make her the Queen of her world rather than just a princess, and keep her proactive side. The problem is that while she's great at fighting Eggman Nega, things like diplomacy and other matters get neglected because of her handling Eggman Nega on her own so much (Also she is quite introverted and rather socially awkward) So she has to learn to balance both the "Stop Eggman Nega" side and the "Actually being a queen" side and perhaps learn to rely on someone other than herself and learn to become more open and socially graceful
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>>153529087
Sticks would be a feral badger like she is now, but actually feral in behavior as in she cannot speak actual words, only animalistic growls. But she is smart and lays traps throughout the jungle she lives in to catch both food and intruders. She still hoards shinies, including rare treasures, rumors of which lead many a dumb explorer to venture into her jungle home
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>>153528789
Whoa dude, chill out. That wasn't even the first Mario/Sonic crossover related thing.
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>>153529767
Mario & Sonic never officially crossover and no Smash and that Olympic shit doesn't count.
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>>153529853
No, but Sonic has been to Yoshi's Island and Hyrule.
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>Sonic Colors
>Eggmans amusement park begins to fall apart
>Sonic and Tails go back to the space elevator
>Terminal Velocity Act 1 ensues with theme park in the background getting further from view
>Following cutscene has them back at the theme park

What's the point of Terminal Velocity act 1? It just feels like a sequence break for the sake of a short level. It's not like Sonics going to the space elevator, since it's back at the park.
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>>153529853
And I don't mean officially either. There are other fan-made shit made before smbz
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>>153520807
My fucking sides
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>>153495158
>>153497115
God damn you...
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>>153528764
Still doing this
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Well thatnks Hotred. I didn't need to see that pixel image of Cassia and Clove you did.

How dare you disgrace mai waifu.
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>>153527338
I agree.
All the grey-area hero-villains have just become straight up heroes (except the Rogues, possibly?) and it's annoying.
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>>153531013
Alright, let's see Rouge in her youth before she hit puberty. Make her really awkward, give her glasses, all the classic "Before and After" cliches.
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>>153532027
Hmmm, I like the idea. Maybe once she hits high school age she realizes just how to get everything she wants and then turns into the untrustworthy bombshell super spy who may just be fulfilling her own agendas
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>>153531960
I think the grey characters are just being forced into situations of playing hero. No point in being selfish when the world as you know it wont exist if you keep at it.
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>>153531960
Team Dark, while being in the white morality, still have a bit of greyness in them.
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>>153531013
Might as well throw out my idea for Antoine as I've seen others take a shot at him in the past

Antoine: Somewhat cowardly soldier who is smitten with the princess as per his SaTAM self, but with his loyalty to the princess and Kingdom of Acorn taken to its furthest extreme. His loyalty to the crown is absolute and unmatched, even by the other Freedom Fighters. If King Acorn told him to burn his house down he'd do it no questions asked. He practically worships the Kingdom and has a warped view of what a loyal soldier should be, not helped by his deep admiration of his deceased father, who was known by many as the perfect soldier. Antoine wishes to live up to and surpass his father.

So how is that?
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https://youtu.be/pKYLATrnvDE
@1:06:47 I got goosebumps of nostalgia
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>>153532971
That subtle use of the Game Gear Game themes too. Sonic 3 and Knuckles theme playing and then Sonic CD You can do anything remix is boss.
Anyone know of a vid where theres that short snippit of that collab remix posted anywhere>
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>>153527338
I was hoping Rouge would be a Fujiko too. But alas we got something a little bit sideways. Not even any extrapolation on her being a nightclub owner or anything.

For the most part I think Heroes Teams were a mistake.
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>>153528764
I still like that idea that some anon suggested a while back about Bunnie (or giving her a little sister) that was sorta kept at home by her parents and became a shy book reader librarian type. I can't remember the specifics sadly but a nebbish booksmart bunnie.
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>>153533758
Yeah, that nightclub angle would be perfect actually. Nice little legitimate front for any sort of illegal shit she's doing. Hell, it could make her enough money to push her agendas forward.

Hell, you could make her relationship with Shadow interesting. Instead of being mutual friends, have her be the only person Shadow actually trusts, and have it be ambiguous as to whether she actually cares about him or is just using him to get rid of any competition and get herself what she wants
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>>153532971
>that audio cut out just as toot toot sonic warrior gets into the swing of things

fuck sake this stream was a disaster. it comes so close to being white hot awesome and instead just epitomises the pain and disappointment of being a sonic fan.
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>>153533914
I think that'd be best as a little sister type thing.

I do have an idea for Bunnie

Bunnie: Headstrong, confident and powerful cyborg Freedom Fighter. At least that's what she wants everyone to believe. In reality, she merely puts on a facade of confidence and kindness. In reality she's a wreck of a person. Her self confidence is nonexistent and that stems from her "ugly" robotic limbs and the fact that Antoine (The object of her affections) outright rejected her. The closest thing she has to a friend is Rotor and that's only really because he's her mechanic. She doesn't know anything about her family or even where she came from, a fact that eats her up inside and only adds to her self loathing and rage. Bunnie has an incredibly high amount of anger at herself, Eggman, Antoine, and the world in general. She's incredibly reckless like Sonic, preferring to be guided by her raw emotions than any sort of logic, which makes her incredibly unpredictable at times. She's had quite a few close skirts with death
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>>153534492
So you basically made her exactly like rogue except replace ugly robot limbs with terrifying powers that means nobody will touch her.

Flying brick rogue is way more fun than angsty can't be touched rogue.
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>>153534161
If it wasn't for Mania, I think the whole event would've been a joke.
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>>153534681
Looking at it now, I did didn't I? Oh well. I just think it'd be interesting to actually explore those self confidence issues Bunnie is supposed to have and make them the focal point of her character.

A part of her character arc would probably be learning to let go of her anger and accept that this is how things are.
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>>153534829
I think what we need is a bunnie arc, or a special spinoff series, or annual or something. To really explore the character. As it stands I don't think we'll see any major development except for flashes of backstory and little bits. I'd love a bunnie centric mini series.

That storytime earlier today that was amazingly casual with her part roboticisation makes me wish we got novels or something, just more story.
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>>153534161
I'm considering asking Aaron if he could hook us up with the music at some point. I was genuinely upset to have the music cut up by poor audio like that.
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>>153535042
it was a vt so they must have the footage compiled somewhere to re-up.
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>>153533758
> For the most part I think Heroes Teams were a mistake.

This.

I mean, the teams would've been fine if they were just for the duration of Sonic Heroes. But those trios seem to have become sort of the canonical groupings, for all of the characters, all of the time. When was the last time in the games a character interacted with anyone outside of their Heroes teammates? Other than Sonic, for obvious reasons, and Amy who might be the one other exception.

Even in the comics you've got Shadow lumped together with Rouge and Omega like they're joined at the hip.

Sonic/Omega tag-team when?
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>>153535004
A Bunnie arc would be amazing. She rarely gets any stories to herself, and if she does, they're usually self contained one offs. It's really telling when the best Bunnie story isn't really ABOUT her, but her uncle. Hopefully this thing with her family pans out because I want her to get an actual finished character arc. The pre-reboot was gonna start on that and then Penders happened
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>>153533997
I really dig this. Its too late but would have been perfect with the darker pre-reboot style.
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>>153535272
Yes to all of this.

I'd be great if the postboot had a sort of 'the gauntlet' style story arc, where we got a short sort of 'reintroduction' to the FF. Where like each character got a 3 issue story arc primarily focused on them with sonic involved in some capacity but it was largely about his teammates.

Ant - 3 issues of him dealing with his fears and becoming a stronger team member and maybe some family/sword stuff.
Bunnie - an arc that shows off who she is and defines her character a bit, show us how she became a fun flying brick that adores her team and is willing to throw herself in front of mecha sonics and what have you in order to protect her gang when they need it.
Rotor - why does he build? who does he hang out with? are there random knotholians he chats to on his way to get a coffee in the village?

I'd love some character moments. Fighting the Egg is all well and good but it's nice to see what they're fighting to protect. I'd love a silly story every now and then like the gang try to hide a surprise birthday party for sally and she's trying to figure out whats going on but there's like a triple deception so she actually gets surprised etc.
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>>153535414
One of my favorite Rouge moments pre-reboot is in Treasure Team Tango where she basically tells Blaze to fuck off because she wants that jewel. To me that's the perfect Rouge: That "Every woman for herself" attitude and untrustworthiness is amazing and fitting for someone like Rouge
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>>153535762
I want everything in your post, especially the birthday party because I'd love to see Sally overthink what's going on.

Hopefully we get something like this soon. It'd be even better if we got it after Genesis of a Hero but before 300 so we could have some low key stories before the madness
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>>153535762
>implying we'll ever get anything aside from 4 issue arcs
Sorry, but that's not going to happen with the current editor.
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>>153536342
I think you're getting your editors mixed up. Kaminski was the one who pushed for that and he's gone now. Under Lovallo we've actually gotten stories that were one offs, two partners, and even three parters
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>>153535762
>>153535862
> actually wanting to go back to furry personal relationship drama rather than Eggman-fighting adventure
W E W L A D
E
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>>153536635
There's a difference between relationship drama and character stories. Eggman fighting is the name of the game but it's nice to have some variety and downtime. Think less "Dark Ages" and more that one story with Armand and Rob O that was more about the characters than fighting Eggman. Or something like the Jules and Scourge story. Or that one Bunnie and Antoine backup before Antoine bites it
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>>153536635
I never said relationship drama. I said character development and studies. The FF are a family, it's cool to see them hang out together and do stuff. They can adventure and all that shit (although fighting eggs is hardly exciting they always win, nothing of consequence is ever lost) but I'd love to see them have some downtime. Even if it's like a quiet christmas hiding out in knothole as robotnik ravages the planet. A piece of slice of life amongst the adventure makes the adventure stand out more.

I'm not after a return to ker-slap. I'd just like to see the FF watching TV or sitting down to eat together and just chilling.

Then I want the in character vocal CD. Like the pokemon CD and shit.
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>>153536813
Actually, I'm a fucking idiot, I had the perfect example of this kind of story: that backup from issue 280. It's a quick slice of life type thing that's more about the characters and their quirks than some big epic battle and it's better for it
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How to improve all Sonic characters, according to /sthg/:
Angst angst angst angst ANGST ANGST ANGST
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Is anyone here a fan of Rotor? I don't dislike him really, but if he died, I can't say I would miss him
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>>153537185
Honestly it should be the opposite. This is a happy series for kids. So why have drama? The games are doing fine being relatively drama free, like Colors and Generations. Sonic stories should be about having fun and cracking jokes with your friends, not angsty melodramatic stories about loss and evil governments and dead people. I mean even the Boom tv show gets what Sonic stories should be like: laid back, chill, all about having fun and crackin jokes. So why do the comics have to have all this unecessary melodrama? Why does 2017 have to have that burning city and Sonic getting angry? That's not fun
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>>153537343
sadwalrus.jpg
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>>153537343
I'm completely indifferent to him.
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>>153537343

I don't think anyone really cares about Rotor. He's just kinda /there/ most of the time, which is probably why Ian shelved him for most of the preboot.
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>>153466412
No. But he's damn well near it. Think Wolverine, then stick secret underlying power of the universe up his ass along with some rocket sneakers and some bullshit "how the fuck did you do that?" logic.

>>153466864
Who else is Immortal though? Shadow isn't going to hang around with Tails till the end of days.

>>153495158
I don't know what this is, but it's cute.

>>153516036
>That Chuckles spoiler in the top right.
How is this plot going to work?

Sorry if I missed anything, just got back from work.

How was the stream? can't watch because my net is fucked atm.
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>>153537441
While I agree, imagine if Batman went back a few decades permanently. Its so jarring after making such a darker name for itself.
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>>153538053
Worked for Brave and the Bold.
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>>153538053
Difference is that serious Batman stories have worked but serious Sonic just doesn't feel right. Sonic's supposed to be comfy and fun, and people dying and all this danger and drama is not comfy or fun. Something like Colors is perfect for 3D sonic. Just two friends joking around and running in weird and crazy levels beating up a silly fat man. It's comfy, fun, and simple, and it's self aware, which is also good for this franchise.
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>>153537343
FF Tier List

Best Tier
Antoine, Nicole

Meh Tier
Bunnie

Low Tier
Sally, Rotor

Prove me wrong.
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>>153538408
Survey results disagree
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>>153538134
Brave and the Bold was a mixture of elements old and new though, not just pure 60's Batman. That kinda mixture would work well for Sonic too, now that I think about it.

>>153538268
>danger and drama is not comfy or fun
Who are you to decide what is or is not fun? Besides, there were lots of moments of danger and drama in Sonic 3, and most people loved those. And similar moments of danger, drama, and action happened in CD as well. It's something that's been ingrained in the series from the very beginning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFxCHpOpEgo
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>>153538697
Yeah but danger ain't comfy man. Sonic is supposed to be comfy AND fun ya know? Dicking around with friends is comfy and fun. Sonic's all about mindless fun where you can just play the games with your brain turned off and the story should reflect that
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Is Rouge a true friend?
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>>153539004
Sadly yes. She'd be much better if she were like>>153527338 and >>153527993 Basically a backstabbing untrustworthy bitch with her own agenda and the skills to get what she wants
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>>153538408
I want to pet Nicole!
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>>153538581
>opinions from people who don't even buy the comics
Roflmao xD
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>>153539358
>Roflmao xD
Stop
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Are you the same guy who says Sonic should be a unrelenting asshole with no redeemable qualities?
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Of course this dumbfuck namefag knows jack shit about Batman. Batman has been much darker than he was with the most recent trilogy in the past, stupid. Just stop posting if all you're going to post is ignorance and shit opinions.
Sonic doesn't need to be dark but there are times where it needs to be serious. Seriousness alone contrasting against the typical nature of Sonic is enough to leave a huge impact. See: Both SA final boss sequences, both storybook final boss sequences, and Unleashed's final boss sequence.
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>>153538581
>which erased character would you like to return?
>mega man
kek
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>>153539639
Nah. That guy tried to turn Rouge into a desperate Shadow fan girl or some crap. The only characters I'd really change are side characters like Team Dark and the FFs. The main 5 (Sonic, Tails, Eggman, Knuckles, and Amy) are fine as is, though I would like to see Knuckles be much more of a loner than he is currently but other than that they don't need to be changed
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Don't even disgrace me with your replies, subhuman trash. You disgust me.
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>>153539668
Nah, Sonic doesn't need those serious moments. Technically it doesn't need a story, but it's one of those things games are obligated to have nowadays so might as well make it comfy, lighthearted, mindless and fun rather than adding unecessary serious moments
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Who here enjoys chili dogs?
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>>153540249
Cropped & saved
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>>153540274
Had my first literally because of Sonic a year or so ago. Delicious. As long as its not heavy on the beanns.

Has Sonic ever been affiliated with Sonic? The fast food place.
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>>153540274
I do.
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>>153540249
>it's obligated to have it so might as well make it shallow, boring, and shit
Wisdom of a true anon.
>>153540274
Depends on how they're made. A local joint makes some good ass chili dogs that aren't processed garbage like Sonic. Goes to show those with shit taste also have literal shit taste.
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>>153540197
Silver isn't allowed to look cool.
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>>153540607
>Shallow, boring, and shit
Well that's just your opinion anon. I think something low key, carefree, and simple fits Sonic to a T. Isn't that the essence of Sonic?
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>>153540717
It is but with nothing to contrast it, it becomes samey, predictable, and boring. Enough of one thing over and over will not just make you not enjoy it but make you sick. Even if it's just the finales, Sonic needs some serious moments to contrast and compliment the light-hearted nature.
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>>153540772
But the serious moments always feel forced, like those moments in romantic comedy movies where the couple is fighting and the movie drags its feet for 10 solid minutes
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All that gas from the Chili Dogs..... Its gotta go someplace. Do you think Sonic farts while he runs?
Tell me the truth I know there are joggers out there that let er rip out in nature while running.

You could say its his SONIC WIND!
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>>153540851
That's not the same at all. That's called writers being incompetent and having to force conflict to move into the third act. That shit even happened in Zootopia. Sonic has been facing worldly threats and when it all comes to a peak, it needs to be serious otherwise the threats just end up looking like pushovers. Sonic barely took down Perfect Chaos and the city was ruined in the process, it took both Sonic and Shadow to finish off Biolizard and stop the ARK from destroying the world, etc. etc. The only time it feels forced is when there's no build up for it like with Lost World and Colors or if the boss is actually stupid like Time Eater.
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>>153541025
I dunno, to me it always seems forced. But if you gotta have serious moments, do it like Boom where it's very brief and it almost immediately gets back to the jokes
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>>153541094
Because you're horribly deluded into thinking that Sonic is this single set-in-stone thing when it isn't. Delete Colors, Gens, and LW from your brain when it comes to anything Sonic story related because all three were done by two jackasses that know about as much about Sonic as Penders.
And having serious moments then jump immediately back to joking would just make them feel even more out of place.
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>that one fucktard who defends Colors, Generations and Lost World writing

BALDY
MCJEW
HAIR
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>>153541094
Isn't having some stakes necessary to drive an action and adventure plot? Without anything at stake, there is no reason to get invested. That is why Sonic games have always had some looming threat that you needed to stop. Whether it was the Death Egg, Little Planet being taken over, Chaos, the ARK, these are necessary to get people invested in the adventure.
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>>153541243
And yet it's still better than anything from Adventure to Black Knight, yes even Lost World is better
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>>153541328
>it's still better
it's the same trash, faggot
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>>153541328
It's not. It really isn't. I'll take SA1, SA2, Secret Rings, and Black Knight's stories over Colors, Gens, and LW's any day and for good reason. The former aren't bland shit with no weight.
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>>153541312
Do you really need a reason to get invested in a platformer other than the gameplay being good?>>153541205
Colors was the first game since the classics to understand how Sonic stories should be. >>153541383
No not really. It's worse than the other Pontaff games but when it does dumb shit at least it's not as bad as SA2 or Unleashed or fucking 06
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>>153541397
The former are try hard melodramatic shitfests that take themselves way too seriously
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>>153541414
Fucking hell, can you at least reply correctly instead of this stilted shit?
>Colors was the first game since the classics to understand how Sonic stories should be
It must have known so well that it went full circle into not knowing because that story was basically non-existent and what was there wasn't funny, wasn't entertaining, and certainly did not make me give a shit. There's a reason why people care about the theme park PSAs more than anything that happened in the actual story. Even the classics had an actual story to them with weight and consequence and gave the player reason for what they did.
>>153541494
No they weren't. They were a mixture of lighthearted adventure and serious action. Wipe the clouds from your eyes.
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>>153541414
Are you aware that your own standards, no matter how well-expressed, will never become more valid or meaningful than those held by others?

Some people find Sonic to be rather hollow without a sense of earnest adventure. This is not some new thing, but was present in Sonic the Hedgehog from day one. Or did you think Green Hill Zone was a stereoscopic wonderland because the art crew had nothing better to do?
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>>153541494
I'm sorry that you are unable to have suspension of disbelief. Perhaps fiction isn't for you.
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Serious can be done in a fun, non-overly-edgy way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTdrLC3nqhw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv4l2pZBHeo

https://youtu.be/IX6oUAGkoao?t=3m4s
>>153541414
No you don't NEED a good story, but why not have one anyway? If the story doesn't interest you, you'll probably skip the cutscenes either way. Let people who do enjoy the stories have one.
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>>153541612
>Little girls getting shot
>Lighthearted
Okay anon. Also people seriously overestimate how much weight the classic stories had because Colors had the same weight as them and like you said, it's minimal, and it's perfectly okay for it to be like that
>>153541628
It was there because they needed a level for the game they were making, nothing else
>>153541641
There's suspension of disbelief then there's expecting me to get seriously emotionally invested in Sonic the fucking Hedgehog
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>>153541751
>because Colors had the same weight as them and like you said
It is pure fact that it did NOT. Try blowing smoke of the ass of someone that isn't tight-assed next time.
Also, Maria getting shot was part of Shadow, not SA2. Shows what you know.
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>>153541654
You're right, those aren't edgy, just cringeworthy. Also we can have a good story, he'll, we got two with Colors and Gens. Maybe if they get Pontaff to do 2017 and have it be more like Colors and less like Lost World we could get 3
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>>153541641
Maybe they're just stupid. No wait, then it'd be easier to ignore, no?
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>>153541751
>It was there because they needed a level for the game they were making, nothing else

Then you can play whatever you get. No standard is not a superior standard.
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>>153541872
>Generations
>Good Story
Pick one Colors story was ok.
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>>153541872
Next you'll say "I was just pretending to be retarded!"
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>>153541862
Whatever, a little girl died in SA2. Still not lighthearted. Also death by firing squad for Gerald
Also they did. In fact, outside of fucking manuals nobody reads, Colors had more story than any of the classics. Take off those rose tinted glasses sometime>>153541940
I do have standards. I just expect them not to be shit and have some level of self awareness. It's Sonic the fucking Hedgehog, not Kingdom Hearts at least try to acknowledge how silly it all is>>153541940
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>>153541991
Nah, because I'm not retarded. I'm right>>153541990
I pick both. Because it was good. A perfect anniversary celebration story
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I like how no one is substantiating their claims about the older Sonic games not having good stories. They just state it like a fact and attack anyone who disagrees with them. Why don't you give a legitimate reason why the stories are bad without using buzzwords.
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>>153542089
The mere fact that they take themselves so fucking seriously is enough to justify shitting on them. It's a fucking 3 foot tall blue hedgehog, playing it straight is retarded beyond all belief
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Ok so since it keeps being brought up, what should be the absolute threshold of drama for Sonic? Death like Maria? Or comedic mishief?
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>>153542175
Comedic mischief a la Colors
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>>153542002
Rose-tinted glasses? Sir, I do believe we are talking about a video game franchise created to appeal to bored latchkey kids in the '90s. I don't personally care about darkness in storytelling, because I don't have to feel bad to acknowledge and respect it.
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>>153542002
Ah, so that's where the point of contention lies. You just don't give a shit and see the series as a joke. Well that's just fine, but at least acknowledge the fact that some people want at least a Saturday-morning cartoon level of plot instead of no plot.
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>>153542002
Let's not forget that was all during the last bit of the game and the lead in for the Final Rush.
>Colors had more story
Even a single tortilla has more flavor than a pound of tofu.
>>153542079
Nah, it's quite plain to see that you're retarded considering you think the botched mess of a story Gens had was perfect. We're done here. You got more (You)s from me than you deserve.
>>153542161
>i-it's just a cartoon, it can't be serious
Ren and Stimpy.
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>>153542079
Generations "story" was lacking it was just a simple framing device to go through old levels very little interactions and dialogue btween Sonic and all those characters in that game they just ended being on the sideline.
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>>153542304
>Ren and Stimpy
>Gross out humor: the show
You're not helping your point
Also how the hell was Gens botched?
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>>153542331
Honestly it had enough interactions between the two Sonic's and Tails' to work. Not like you could incoporate all the other characters without it becoming crowded so it worked well with what it had and having them show up at all was a miracls
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>>153542161
>It's a fucking man in a bat costume, playing it straight is retarded beyond all belief
>It's a fucking man in a rubber suit, playing it straight is retarded beyond all belief
>t's a fucking man wearing a mask, playing it straight is retarded beyond all belief
I could go on forever. Do you really think that you're so "enlightened" because you take everything as a joke?
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>>153542373
But anon, it's just a cartoon! It can't be adult!
>how the hell was Gens botched?
>limited character appearences
>they then do nothing for the rest of the game
>babies first future meets past when they're the same age
>likely a few plot holes as well
>Sonic 06 being referenced at all
>lack of any real meaningful plot whatsoever, everything's in a white void with little interaction between anyone
>everything returns as if it never happened afterwards
Truly the next Iliad. Get the fuck over whatever mental problem you have and stop acting like your disfunction is an issue with the games and not you, mini-CWC. Here's your last (You) from me. Don't choke on it.
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Could 2006's story have been tolerable if it didn't have Sonic falling in love with a human?
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>>153542089
>Why don't you give a legitimate reason why the stories are bad
I probably could but I'm way too tired now.
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>>153542656
No, the time travel aspect was botched even worse then the romance imo. It did have some good ideas though, in the hands of a better writer it could have probably been great, but we'll never know.
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>>153542656
I get the feeling '06's story was cut-up and patched back together several times. Without that, things like Elise and Mephiles were far from bad ideas.

Hell, Dan Green as hedgehog Satan is a wonderful thing that makes me glad to have existed, and the Silver = Trunks thing seems almost meta with the current state of the franchise.
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>>153542656
It was Cinderella and her animal friends at best. And I'm sure Cindy showered them with affection too.
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>>153542449
Did Tails even do anything? Him and his Classic self just tells Sonic that going fast fixes time but he could figure that out since he told him after he already did it.
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>>153542868
Tails pretty much never does anything in the Modern games. He built a translator to talk with the Wisps in Colors, but Sonic had already trashed a generator without needing to talk to Yacker, so yeah he was pretty much useless. He did have a bit of a role in Sonic Lost World, but he became very insufferable in that game. I hope the next game gives him a genuine role.
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>>153542656
It could have been tolerable if
>Sonic acted like Sonic and wasn't just a flimsy parody of himself
>there was no stupid time travel
>no dumb shit like Mephiles and Iblis and all this other dumb Christian mythos
>Silver wasn't so quick to blindly assume shit
>Eggman didn't look like a fucking shaved ballsack
>Dennis Hopper didn't asexually multiply by a hundred and form the royal guard
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>>153543016
>I hope the next game gives him a genuine role.

You could put anyone that isn't Sonic as the subject of that sentence, and I would agree. But especially Tails, poor guy.
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>>153543107
Oh, come on. Mephiles could've been fun.
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>>153543167
He could have if Dan Green being his voice wasn't the only good thing about him.
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>>153543109
I think that Knuckles got the worst of it. He went from being a dedicated, if slightly naive, warrior and guardian to a dumb idiot who doesn't do anything.
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>>153543278
>Humans
REEEEEEEE SONIC LIVES ON MOBIUS
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>>153543107
>Silver wasn't so quick to blindly assume shit
Knuckles was bamboozled into fighting Sonic for dumb reasons so I don't mind this happening again.
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>>153543365
I know you are just joking, but to this day I am still surprised about how many people think that humans in Sonic was a modern invention.
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Who the fuck is Gold?
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>>153543208
I repeat - could've. As in, if anything were different. I will not and frankly cannot defend that shithole of a game. But I will not stand and see ideas decried as vile when in the hands of a better writer (or more accurately, someone who knows how to program a functioning platformer) they could have been enjoyable.

Seriously. Hedgehog Satan. If you're going for comedy, that's hard to top. And if you're going for tragedy... well, it's a reach even the Werehog couldn't make. But with a good script, who knows?

>>153543278
From what I hear, that's a common opinion. It's a shame too, since his character doesn't actually have to be an idiot savage... I'm not even sure where they got that idea. Adventure Knuckles was tricked because he was so focused on gathering the ME shards that he didn't stop to consider the possibility of MASTER PLAN. And he was downright clean in SA2, no bullshit, just treasure hunting, a reasonable team-up, and an impulsive shuttle hijacking.

I dunno. What do you think brought about Knux's fall from grace?
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>>153543793
Shadow and him being turned into Piccolo
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>>153543760
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Gold_the_Tenrec
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>>153540274
I've yet to try them. Considering making some one of those days.
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>>153543793
It's a textbook case of Flanderization. Also, the fact that he was tricked so many times in Sonic X also probably didn't help his reputation.
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>>153540891
>runs so fast people can't blame him for the smell
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>>153543904
TURN
HER
INTO
SIGMA
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>>153542656
No. That part was so over the top bad that it became funny.
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>>153543896
Which is weird to me - Knuckles was fine is SA2. They even gave him his own rival to make up for not being Sonic's anymore!

On thinking back, I place the blame on much the secondary material that involved him; Sonic X especially. At least Piccolo wasn't the butt of physical comedy.
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Lost world was a mistake
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>>153543793

Sega straight up forgetting about the ME and Angel Island.
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>>153544421
But was mistake a lost world?
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>>153544129
>TURN
>HER
>INTO
>SIGMA
T.H.I.S.
I don't get this meme
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>>153542656
No, but at least it would have been at SA2 levels of shit instead of what we got.
If Elise was a furry, that'd be fine. Most people's complaints would clear up.
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>>153544642
yes
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>>153544129
>Sonic and Eggman
>Blaze and Eggman Nega
>Silver and Gold

And the cycle keeps repeating itself...
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>>153544861
>If Elise was a furry
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Just because I'm curious, because I'm wondering what the majority vote is, what kind of story do you all prefer?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11129255
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>>153544861
>>153545682
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>>153544421
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>>153543107
>Dennis Hopper didn't asexually multiply by a hundred and form the royal guard

But I miss Dennis Hopper. Granted, he needs to be the villain. RIP.
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>>153542656
No one else saw this as it was happening as a one sided crush? And that it in no way promotes bestiality when it was only as bad as The Frog Prince?

Or am I the insane one?
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>>153546726
dat ass tho
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>>153547243
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>>153547375
Say Hello to my little Friend!
If you think so, Shadow is partially a Tony Montana lol. Have a hawaiian shirt and a gun. Oh, and he is actually alive.
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>>153546726

MARIASS
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>>153535042
What music do you mean? I think everything is uploaded.
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>>153540197
He is so cute!
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>>153530413
So you don't like Poppy...?
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>>153546912
Shit character and shit design
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PLAYTIME IS OVER IIZUKA
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so playing sonic chronicles and managed to get a Ferox just before the final chapter.

im not sure if it helped but i had 4 Fess chao (increases the chances of rare Chao being hatched) bonded to all 4 party members.

so now im gonna try using Cream, I found it really hard to get her pow moves to work.

I'm thinking of having Sonic, Tails and Knuckles in the party and spamming Triple Tornado like a cheap asshole.
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>>153550591
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>>153547126
Honestly my only gripe with Sonic and Elise was the game took their relationship waaay too seriously. It would have been nice had it been more tongue and cheek, fluffed-up and less forced...Of course, that would require competent writing and stronger characterization on both fronts.

Part of me feels Elise might have worked better as a villain, sort of like a proto-Merlina.
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>>153545529
Eggman Nega works best as Silver's enemy. I mean, why the heck would there be a near-exact duplicate of Eggman in Blaze's world?! I mean, sure, Blaze is meant to be like another Sonic, but she isn't a 3' 3 male hedgehog, she's just to the Sol Emeralds and her world what Sonic is to the Chaos Emeralds and his world.

Eggman Nega being a descendent of Eggman from Silver's time makes WAY more sense.
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>>153549791
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>>153552371
Question is, if Nega really is Eggman's great-great-grandson or something like that, where did he come from? He could be a clone or had descended from one, but genetic engineering isn't exactly Robotnik's line of work...I mean yeah, he made Shadow androids, but those are faulty at best.

Who did the doc score with?
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>>153546726
>not multiple choice
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>>153549503
No, I binge read the entire thing and now I have to wait for updates.
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ok Sonic chronicles, im trying to complete the argus event quest but I think I need that box in Voxai colony but tails says I need febes permission, how do I do that?
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>>153552371
Eggman Nega is a Blaze villain who showed up in Sonic Rush.

And fuck his Nega version. What a mary sue.
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Rouge's kindness and good nature only come out when she's around Shadow. And she's always around Shadow all the time not because of Heroes, but because of SA2. Team Dark was introduced in SA2, not Heroes. Heroes just replaced Eggman with Omega. It's because of the fact that SA2 had that "Hero V Dark" thing Rouge as a character is always connected to Shadow in some way as allies/teammates/best friends. The only way Rouge could have actually been a "selfish" treasure hunter/jewel theif/mysterious spy and stuff is if she was introduced in a game separately from Shadow. But the whole "spy working for the government" thing makes that impossible because Shadow's backstory is heavily connected to the government as well.
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>>153553336
He doesn't make any sense as a Blaze villain, because there can't be an Eggman lookalike in Blaze's world who literally calls himself "Eggman Nega", because Blaze's world isn't a straight up alternate universe where everyone is a 1:1 mirror image of someone from Sonic's world. Blaze isn't that kind of Sonic analogue.
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>>153526721
What's up Tamers12345
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>>153543016
Tails, Amy, Knuckles, etc have all been background characters since sonic unleashed. Only sonic has been a playable character in anything that isn't a spin-off game.
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>>153554305
Well they are side characters, not the main protagonist, so of course they won't do anything majorly important. Sonic has to be the one to save the day, because he's the hero after all
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Solo Sonic is really damaging to Tails and Knuckles' characters. Especially Tails.
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>>153554976
How does it damage Tails? He's always been the tag along right? If anything him being with Sonic in all these new games is a good thing as it reinforces the kid sidekick part of him
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>>153550920
Naugus has never been this moe.
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>>153555082
Because Tails in the games before was always just as proactive as Sonic and fighting alongside him. Nowadays, Tails isn't allowed to do that because he's not allowed to be playable.
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>>153554779
They had important roles in sonic adventure 1 and 2 and heroes and it worked out great. I see no reason why they shouldn't allow tails, knuckles, and Amy to be playable again.
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>>153555486
>>153555486
That's fine though. He's not supposed to be a fighter, but the tech guy, so it makes sense. Also multiple playable characters in 3D Sonic doesn't work so implementing him would just fail anyways
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>>153555601
>Heroes
>Adventure games
Yeah, no. There's no reason for them to be playable again. It doesn't work. The best 3D games have been Sonic only and that's no coincidence
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>>153555634
Then why was he a fighter in HIS VERY INTRODUCTION?! Tails as a sidekick is supposed to be fighting alongside Sonic AND providing tech assistance, but mostly the fighting thing. Tails is capable of flying because he uses it to keep up with Sonic and making use of Sonic's spinning and skills and stuff to be like another Sonic helping him out.
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>>153555725
Just because the Sonic only formula worked, doesn't mean the old formula's didn't. A lot of them, fine & great games. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
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>>153555725
>All the best sonic games were boost shit
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>>153556071
>boost
>shit
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>>153556071
They were consistently good, and better than the awkward gameplay of the Adventures and the shit controls and tedium of Heroes
>>153555971
It really didn't work though. Why are you so set on having multiple playable characters when it's been proven that it doesn't work in 3D? You know what the last two 3D games with multiple playable characters were? 06 and Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric, two contenders for the worst Sonic game of all time? Coincidence? I don't think so
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>>153556219
There is nothing to defend with boosting, even heroes levels were better than anything boosting has given us with its hold forward to win formula.
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>>153556262
>Wow, look at all these glitchy, rushed, broken games with low review scores
>they must obviously be rated so low because of muh multiple characters
>Aren't I so smart, you guys?
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>>153556313
>I haven't played Generations
That's all you needed to say. It actually implemented multiple pathways and skill in a pretty good way, and still controls better than Heroes. It's the best 3D Sonic gameplay. Hell, why do you think they're returning to it in 2017?
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>>153556501
This fag is either an ultra casual who wants temple run style sonic games or is baiting. I swear to god he better be baiting.
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>>153556501
The multiple disconnected, boring, and unfocused gameplay styles in something like 06 heavily detracted from the game, and that came about from 90 billion playable characters nobody asked for>>153556571
No I just want good Sonic games rather than the garbage we got for most of 3D sonic's tenure
>Boost is temple Run
Epic, simply epic
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>>153556262
Different guy than who you were talking to.

Nothing's been proven that it doesn't work when there were games released that were very well received on release that had multiple characters, like the Adventure games. The Spin-Off games that also have multiple characters seem to do well too. Let's not forget that there's been some stinker Sonic only games too that have been released recently. Showing that it's not who you play, but how well it's made to play.

But sure, it was the multiple characters that were the problem and not the well documented pressure from Sega to rush development to release on holiday. I gotchu dude, I get it.
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>>153556678
Boost is temple run. All you do is hold forward without having to think. In adventure 1 and 2, more emphases is on platforming rather than GOTTAGOFAST! because sonic as you know, is a platformer.
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>That one anon who was defending Pontac and graff writing
Jesus christ was Colors your first Sonic game or something?
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>>153556895
>I haven't played Generations
Good to know you haven't played the game that actually had multiple paths and encourages exploration. Also the adventure games controlled like ass take off the fucking nostalgia goggles

>>153556874
Multiple playable characters in 3D sonic hasn't been handled well once since it went 3D. Meanwhile outside of the storybook games, the solo Sonic games are actually relatively well received and not shit

I'm talking about main series 3D platformers not fucking spin offs
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>tfw Colors is your favorite Boost game and Ian Flynn's as well
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direct's up

who's ready for Fire 'n Ice
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>>153557071
Also funny how most of these good 3D stages were from the adventure games and older.
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>preorder for Munchlax

seriously
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>>153557226
Yeah, almost like they took fundamentally gold stages and put them in a non shit gameplay style
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>>153557071
The Adventure games were very well received on release and were complimented for it's multiple forms of play. Only recently, along with the franchise as a whole, has memetic culture declared that "Sonic was never good". Of which you seemed to latch onto the games you had fun with as being not applicable, and the ones you didn't are.

On the other hand, I guess all that fun I had playing the Adventure games, Heroes, & Shadow were just false fun. Thanks bruh.
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>>153557275
The best example of a 3D boost game was literally leeching off nostalgia. Only reason why they included exploring is because the older adventure stages were like that, if it was an original boost stage, it would be pure hold forward to win.
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>>153557480
>Hold forward to win
So like the classic games then? Because both are equally "hold forward to win" AKA not at all
>>153557442
Or people's opinion on a game can change over time after the initial wow factor wore off. Not everything is because of memes. How many people seriously liked playing as anyone but Sonic and maybe Tails?
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>>153557625
Me for example, I loved trying to get a high score with Big. Knuckles' & Rouge's levels were great fun learning all the usual spawn locations to get a new time. And the Tails Mech/Eggman levels were great, not to mention Gamma's story is the best in Adventure.

No one's saying that opinion's can't change, but to say that it's the same for everybody is just black and white thinking.
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>>153557625
No, you had to think in classic and adventure games because there were elements of speed and platforming in them. There is little platforming in boost games because Sega thinks sonic should only be about speed and gotta go fast.
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>>153557260
ikr?

also, that Tank Troopers game probably gonna steal all the 4.4k people still palying Federation Froce
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Why do you keep getting baited by the same argument and probably the same anon over and over again? I mean, this same conversation happens every week, sometimes even multiple times per week.
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>>153557910
Because they're all retards who can't stand the idea of someone liking something they don't. Or something not liking something they do.
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>>153552742
I shoulda done so, sorry.
Will make a new one in a bit.
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>>153557625
I fucking loved playing as everyone else.
And I played it at 19, like 4 years ago now.

Spent more time playing as Knuckles and Tails exploring than playing Sonic.
Also Big's cosy as fuck and Amy's hammer is great.
I like Gamma's story but I don't like his gameplay, sue me.
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>>153557815
>not to mention Gamma's story is the best in Adventure.
I never got the love for it, because I couldn't take it seriously. The game seriously expects me to feel bad for one of Eggman's robots. You know, those things you jump on to free the animals and move on? What's next, a Mario game that tries to have me empathize with a Goomba? A Mega Man game that wants me to feel bad for every Met I shoot?
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who's Defect?
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>>153558504

new character
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>>153558437
It's more about a robot being able to overcome his programming and become his own being, even in sacrifice. Very influenced by things like Kikaider. That's okay if you don't get it, you're not required.
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>>153557130
Which games count as boost? Rush games are pretty good.
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>Dr. Eggman's gonna get regged
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>>153558437
Well, the robots have AI, same with Mega Man. And yer give em more advanced AI, like Metal Sonic, he goes and fucks with Sonic in the GG and challenges Sonic to races and shit, not just cause that's his program but it's implied he wants to.

Gamma's just a continuation of that, you give a robot advanced enough AI and it'll question when you start disassembling his robot brothers.

The other theory is it's just the bird inside, which makes a lot more sense, you put an animal inside a robot and the animal starts to come through the programming, it's kinda cool.

Also, the Met's are simple AI robots, but why don't you feel bad for them but feel bad for Blues? Or not feel bad for Airman, who's power only pushes people away bad and therefore should have less sympathy for the antihero?
I like MegaMan a lot and the acts the comic went into every "Man" having his own personality and wants and all that is great.
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>>153558749
>but why don't you feel bad for them but feel bad for Blues
I don't feel bad for Blues. He's a souless robot who half the time got in my way.
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>>153558856
Also forgot to mention that Gamma tried to kill the main protag. And tried to make up for it with more murder, he deserves no sympathy
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>>153558856
So's Rock though. And Roll. And Rush.

Can you seriously not get any character unless they're a man sitting at home with a controller or something?

It's like saying "Am I meant to sympathise with Woody, I'm not a wooden cowboy doll"
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>>153558953
I bet you're a real life of the party, huh?
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>>153559008
>So's Rock though. And Roll. And Rush.
But they never worked for Wily at any point, so I'm able to root for them.
I'm able to sympathize with characters who are good people, and Gamma is not objectively good. He's made by a man who more often that not, tries to take over the world and Gamma was part of that goal. At the end of the day his loss means one less threat to the hero, so if anything, I'm glad he dies
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>>153559157
But Gamma turns good.
He goes against his programming when he realises what kind of man Eggman is, what he's doing etc.

By your logic Knuckles shoulda died for being in Sonic's way many times.

I get the kind of logic you're going with here but it's just weird to me.
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>>153559304
At his core he's still a souless machine meant to kill Sonic. He just defies it. He's a bad person that happened to do one good thing

Knuckles has sentience and can actually change his nature.
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>>153559392
Wait, how is Blues a soulless machine and Rock isn't?
And why would you root for a robot who is designed to be good, that's not choice, that's not his free will.

Also Gamma is meant to and doesn't. And he was only turned on or like what, 24 hours. The bugger did more good than bad in that time, all he did evil was give Eggman a Chaos Emerald.
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>>153559392
The thing about artificial intelligence is that it can learn and change based on what it has learned.
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>>153559392
It's been pretty much confirmed since the very beginning of Sonic that the badnicks have souls. After all, they're made from animals.

Also what it means to have a "soul" is the whole story in the Mega Man franchise.
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>>153559392
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. What about Emerl? He was good, but turned bad after he unwillingly established a Link with the Final Egg Blaster.
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>>153559536
>designed to be good
He, like his sister, was designed to be a housekeeper. He chose to become what he is today.
He chose to become...
SUPER FIGHTING ROBOT!!! Mega Man.
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>>153559536
>And why would you root for a robot who is designed to be good, that's not choice, that's not his free will.
Because he's good and not a prick. Rock is still a souless machine, but he's a soulless machine that doesn't help Wily on multiple occasions
>>153559678
Wasn't it implied he was a superweapon at some point? He probably killed people. No sympathy for him
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>>153559859
What about his growing friendship with Sonic and the others? How Sonic tried desperately to bring him back alive? Does all that really mean nothing to you? Is the world really so black, white, and meaningless?
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>>153559927
I dunno, small acts of friendship don't really make up for the mass murder he probably committed before he was turned back on. He's a living weapon, so it's better to keep him off for everyone's safety
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>>153560025
I feel sorry for you.

That's all, I just feel sorry for you.
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>>153559859
Wow.
I mean you're entitled to your opinion and who am I to make you change it, but damn.
Oh well, as long as yer like Eggman we cool.

>>153559779
I think Needleman was the one who said "Light's Son is a comfy definition to work around", of course Light's son would be helpful, of course Light's son would want to save people, that's what Light would want after all. Same with Roll.
But that kind of prohibits him from being bad in a sense. Acting out of passion, sure, he was designed to be like a human, but outwardly bad, I don't see it.

Blues had "To Be", and I fucking love it.
I loved the Mega Man comics more than the Sonic comics and now they're gone. ;_;
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>>153560118
Why? Because I can't sympathize with mass murderers?
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>>153560184
Your lack of empathy is really disturbing anon.
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>>153560184
Can't you look at people (or robots, in this case) for who they are instead of what they've done?
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>>153560263
Again, am I supposed to feel bad for murderers now?
>>153560280
What people do shapes who they are. If people do really bad things, they're bad people. And if people do good things, they're good people. I don't see what's so hard to understand
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>>153560184
No, disliking what you perceive as mass murders is your proagtive.

It's because you only see the world in black or white. It's childish and immature and I expect better from kindergartners, none the less a 18+ poster on an image board.

But maybe that's my fault for expecting it.
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>>153560391
To be fair, the only "bad" thing Gamma did was go find some random ass frog on a beach and take it to Eggman for (as far as he was aware) no reason whatsoever.
Oh, and blow up a load of Sonic, Tails and Knuckles plushies.
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>>153560391
People are not black and white, they're multi-dimensional. THAT, is not hard to understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGDk3phgfVc
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>>153560536
Again, you're saying this because I can't sympathize with a robot that likely murdered thousands of people before it was turned off for the first time, and tried to murder people AGAIN.
>>153560613
and try to kill Sonic. And steal an emerald. But at the very least he tried to redeem himself and ended up doing some good. He's more redeemable than say, Shadow, and unlike Shadow, rightfully committed suicide rather than pose a threat to others
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>>153560391
>>153560613
Oh, he also attacked Sonic.
Forgot about that.
But he didn't kill anyone.
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>>153560754
>he also attacked Sonic.
Who hasn't fought Sonic only for them to be friends later?
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>>153560829
Tails, Amy, Chaotix, Cream and Vanilla, Mighty and Ray, Big.

But I get what you mean.
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>>153560708
What is that video supposed to prove? That the guy is a prick? That bad people can still like things that good people like?
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>>153560738
>try to kill Sonic.
Like >>153560829 said, who hasn't?

>steal an emerald.
When does he do this?
And does he really *steal* it?
Is it in someone's possession when he takes it? Cause if not he didn't steal it.

Overall, his good deeds outweigh his bad deeds.
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>>153561014
>Amy,
>Cream
Sonic Heroes.
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>>153560738
Which he might had done before Gerald gave him a free will programming (essentially a soul). His shell of a body did it, not his soul.
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G/Emerl is a good guy, and grew as a person/robot through being "raised" by Sonic and his friends, forming his own personality and stuff.
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>>153561171
They were friends beforehand, be fair.
And that was a fight over Sonic's hand in marriage. Which Big punched the shit out of a 12 year old Foxboy for.
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>>153561174
Right, G/Emerl has a heart and soul identical to Maria's. He is a good robot. The 'massmurderousgenocidalweapon' thing was what his body was programmed to do before Gerald gave him a soul and Sonic brought that soul to life.
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>>153561023
Hasn't really been too great in general lately.
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>>153561282
Unless Sonic is a masochist I don't think smashing his skull with a hammer will win his heart.
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>>153561206
>>153561337
He still murdered thousands of people. You can't exactly excuse mass murder
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>>153561030
That the world isn't black or white. That people have multiple dimensions to their character. That people can do bad things but aren't necessarily "bad", just as people can do good things but aren't "good".

You can try to "be a good person" or "be a bad person", but you can never actually be only & just a good or bad person.
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>>153561282
Tails is 8, not 12. Why does everyone keep thinking he's 12? Sonic is 15, Tails is 8, Knuckles is 16, Amy is 12.
>>153561431
No, "He" didn't. "IT" murdered thousands of people. "HE" didn't.
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>>153561431
So did Shadow & Rouge but people like to sweep that under the rug.
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>>153561574
When have they actually murdered thousands of people, aside from the Black Arms?
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>>153561471
>That people can do bad things but aren't necessarily "bad"
So murderers, rapists, and thieves are good people, okay. If you do mostly bad things, you're a fucking awful person, and vice versa
>>153561574
Oh they're bad people too, especially Shadow. Shadow should've been locked in stasis or whatever after Shadow for everyone's safety, because he could easily turn evil again and kill everyone
>>153561513
Yes he did. He still murdered thousands of people
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>>153561431
He didn't do it though, he technically wasn't even made yet as his "soul" was yet to be.

Are you saying people born with disabilities or deformities can never try to overcome that? That children born of rape should never strive to be more than that? That sons will always have to pay for the sins of the father? That they will always be what was instilled in them since their creation?
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>>153561721
Shadow was BRAINWASHED in SA2, by Gerald, to carry out revenge. Amy's words undid that and allowed Shadow to do what he'd ACTUALLY do: carry out Maria's Wish. In his game, he had amnesia and was trying to discover the truth by any means necessary. In the end, he saved the world yet agin.
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>>153561721
Robin Hood thieves mostly. James Bond kills a lot. By your logic they're both bad guys.

Robin Hood thieves for good reasons, but who's to say what a good reason is? That's a moral grey area etc.
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>>153561778
>Are you saying people born with disabilities or deformities can never try to overcome that? That children born of rape should never strive to be more than that? That sons will always have to pay for the sins of the father? That they will always be what was instilled in them since their creation?
They can try to overcome them, but at the end of the day, it helps define who they are. People are inherently good or inherently bad and they can try to mitigate that the best they can, but nobody who was born bad can become wholly good and vice versa. They can become less good or less bad, but not much else

As for Emerl, even though he has a """"soul""" he's still a living weapon that could kill anyone at any moment. Better to keep him off even if he really is as good as you say he is, for the safety of millions.>>153561927
Point is that he tried to commit global genocide at least once, got brainwashed twice, and got amnesia. What's to stop it from happening again?
>>153561948
They're bad people that are only relatively good because the people they're fighting are worse
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Is this the same shitposter who thinks Sonic shouldn't have stories and should just be Mario over and over again? Probably because he can't wrap his head around a simple kids' story.
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>>153562140
Nah. Sonic should have a story. It just shouldn't expect me to feel bad for wannabe mass murderers
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This conversation, in relation to Emerl, comes down to this: Body VS Soul. Emerl's Body was created as a soulless weapon of mass destruction. Thousands of years later, Emerl's Soul was created as a kind, goodnatured being who would give hope to humanity. The 'Soul' is Emerl's true self, and is the Emerl that we learn about, raise, and interact with in Sonic Battle personally. So, no, Emerl is not a bad guy. The living weapon that killed everyone was the base programming of the Gizoid itself, and is not a reflection of who Emerl himself actually is.
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>>153562070
>born bad
this guy
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stop being faggots and post cute
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>>153562070
>People are inherently good or inherently bad
>Robin Hood and Robin Hood thoeves are bad people
k thx bye

>>153562140
Don't conflate shitposters. He's just someone with a different outlook on certain characters. That doesn't automatically make him a shitposter.
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Robots don't have souls.
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>>153562257
That programming is still in Emerl somewhere, and it could activate at any moment for any number of reasons. He's too dangerous to keep alive. Needs of the many outweight the needs of one robot>>153562325
>>Robin Hood and Robin Hood thoeves are bad people
Well they are. It's just the guy they're fighting is even worse so they're good by comparison
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>>153562280
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>>153562070
So people can't change? Who you are at first and who you are in the end can only be the exact same thing with no difference? Everyone has the potential to redeem themselves and grow to become a good person, and the same applies in reverse. Anyone can potentially be corrupted or purified.
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>>153562280
Post cute you say?
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>>153562070
Fucking A mate, I'd hate to see you raise a kid with that philosophy.

By your logic, that since Sonic has the ability of Speed and to go Super, he should be put down for good to avoid a possible catastrophe. Sonic has the ability when motivated to be faster than anything in existence, especially as an embodiment of chaos. Thus he has the ability to kill everyone and everything on the entire planet.

This "safe space" thinking of yours is just sad.
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>>153562435
They can change who they are a little bit, but not their entire being. Like I said before, someone who was born good can be bad, but can never become a fully bad person, and a bad person can never fully become a good person. They can just partially diminish or mask their natural alignment
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Are all hedgehogs fast?
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>>153562549
The thing wiht Sonic is that he's never done bad things, he's only ever fought for good so there's very little chance of him trying to murder everyone. Contrast that with Shadow who has tried to kill people and has done so in the past, and could easily turn evil at the drop of a hat.
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>>153562593
Just Sonic, and Shadow because of his jet shoes. Silver is slow. Amy is slow unless she's chasing after or with Sonic.
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>>153562593
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwU18B6Z9tU
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If Sonic lived an entirely different live, he would potentially have become the scourge of his world, with the capacity to end the lives of literally everyone in a single attosecond. Does that mean Sonic should be locked away as he is now even though what I just described never happened?
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>>153562673
>Silver is slow
Rivals

>Amy is slow
Heroes
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>>153561023
Not enough Blaze.
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>>153562727
No, because Sonic was obviously born good. Scourge was not
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>>153562481
I do say!

>>153562673
In the latest SU shadow did a spin dash, has he always been able to do that? I thought his speed was due to his shoes and not himself being FAST. Can slowhogs spindash? or just spin I guess?

I do really like the idea that after years of chasing sonic amy has developed FAST but never notices because it's still not fast enough to catch sonic. So even though she leaves everyone else in the dust she doesn't realise she is pretty goddamn fast.
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>>153562669
ANYONE can be brainwashed, tricked, misled, misguided, etc and have their personalities and views skewed towards a malevolent end goal. Imagine if Eggman successfully captured Sonic and turned him into another Metal Sonic, reprogramming him andn everything.
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>>153562280
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>>153562808
>unless she's chasing after Sonic

>>153562857
Antoine can spinsword so I think it's just a thing anyone can do if they're good enough regardless of fast.
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>>153562669
The whole point of Scourge was to show that Sonic has the possibility to be bad, really really bad. That from that "One Bad Day" forward, he'd be a complete villain despite any and all good things he did in the past.

This is kids level morality story telling bruh.
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>>153562857
Shadow has been described as sharing Sonic's speed and agility since day 1. Did everyone just conveniently forget that in SA2, Shadow played completely identical to Sonic, down to sharing even the LIGHTSPEED techniques?
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>>153562857
Shadow has always been able to spin and do a Spin Dash since SA2.
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>>153562990
Fuck off Sparky.
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>>153562982
Scourge is literally evil Sonic though. He was born evil, and that whole speech was him trying to convince Sonic that they aren't so different, which is bullshit. Sonic could never be that bad
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>>153562856
>born good
Well, with your philosophy, I'd say you're a pretty bad person for thinking no one can be more than what they're born as. I guess you were "Born Bad".
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>>153562963
No vulnerable hedgehogs.
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>>153563136
Yeah, I'm not a good person by any stretch of the imagination, but not for the reasons you're stating
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>>153562857
>amy has developed FAST but never notices
I like that idea
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>>153563101
>Scourge is literally evil Sonic though.
> Sonic could never be that bad

I don't get what you're trying to say here anon. Of course Sonic could be as evil as scourge, scourge is an alternate sonic that did just that? You even said so yourself.
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>>153563252
Well then I guess you should be locked up then. After all, you were born bad. That means you can only do bad things in the future. We don't want a potential Murder/Rapist/Thief on the streets now, do we?
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>>153563417
Amy has many talents not immediately noticeable.
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>>153563478
Eh you're not entirely wrong. Thing is in the US you only get locked up when you actually do a bad thing. It's probably only a matter of time before I do a bad thing and get locked up
>>153563467
No, Scourge from the start was supposed to be evil. He's from the evil Mobius where most people are born evil. Sonic is not from there and was born good so he could never be as evil as Scourge
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>that second shirt

>let's just take a fucking rectangle and press it onto a shirt.

For fucks sake it is 2017 can we get some shirts that aren't just album covers or photo fucking rectangles on a shirt? It's not HARD TO DO.

>>153563717
no he's from anti mobius, where everyone is the opposite. Not evil mobius, because kintobour is good. Get your facts straight. All you're telling me is if someone hit sonic with a morality alignment beam that switched him to opposite mode he'd be just as evil as scourge, so it's possible. Plus if alternate dimensions are a thing doesn't that mean we could have a chaotic neutral sonic capable of sonic good and scourge evil in one character? I wanna read about THAT guy. Switch the Hedgehog.
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>>153562391
>Well they are.
Do I know you? I had the same argument with a Sonic fan and when Robin hood came up he had the same opinion.
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>>153563717
>born evil
>born good
The writers of the comic have stated that isn't the case. It may seem that way, but it's not how it works in Sonic.
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>>153563876
>Shirts
Design your own then.

>good and evil sonic
Fleetway Sonic is kinda that.
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>>153564047
>Design your own then.

Take the cityscape, make it full bleed and wrap around the entire shirt. drop the black box with the chintzy visit here postcard cliche and take the text off.

Done. Now what?
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>>153564238
Now make it.
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>>153564375
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>>153563876
>>153564238
You realize how hard that is to actually make in a mass produced setting while accounting for different sizes? You're going from small to 3XL just in men's sizes and that's not accounting for women and kids. That warps the image unless you make six different images. Much easier to take a preset image and slap it on the front.
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>>153564650
okay make a shitty tiled shirt instead then.
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>>153563876
I love these types of shirt. I know they're autism as fuck, but it's already a sonic shirt so it might as well look awesome.
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Amy's the cutest!
CUTEST!
U
T
E
S
T
!
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>>153565765
yis
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>you will never kiss Clove's thighs

Why fucking live
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>>153561023
Is Sonic going to finally put /sthg/ out of its misery?
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>>153566375
We can only hope.
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You could always 3D print a model of her and kiss that.

Has 3D anon finished the Bump model yet?
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>>153564728
Its cheaper. A print on a tshirt mass produced is more cost effective than working with dyes and something more classy.
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>>153566685
He's still working on it
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>>153566186
When has Clove ever had thighs?
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>>153567543
When the artists at archie decided to draw her completely different from the Sonic style.
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>>153567543
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>>153567543
Whenever ABT draws her.
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>>153563876
Not too big on the shirt, but I would absolutely love a Studiopolis poster to put on my wall.
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>>153567543
Every time she's drawn by ABT and Evan Stanley.
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>>153567690
her body shape is closer to rouge, desu
makes sense because they're about the same age
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>>153567543
Korps bikini one.
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>>153567829
Rouge still has noodle limbs like every other Sonic character.
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>>153566702
please take your name off, it's common courtesy here.
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>>153567849
shes got dem hips, man
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>>153568918
Nope. Also its a proven that even without a name threads can be garbage.

But seriously, no. When I stop caring about Sonic, then I'll leave. Until then, get 4chanX.
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>>153569024
sorry, meant for >>153568464
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>>153569121
>When I stop caring about Sonic, then I'll leave.
I hope it's soon then.
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>>153569121
oh you're right I forgot I had X. It's got nothing to do with namefags ruining threads and everything to do with you being rude.
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>>153569121
You seem like a prick.
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>>153569176
>>153569221
>>153569264
Please stop giving attention to that shitstain.
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>>153569176
>>153569221
>>153569264
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>>153569352
4chan isn't your personal army, which is how you're trying to treat everyone.
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>>153569547
No, but's it's common knowledge the best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them.
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>>153569668
>>153569668
>>153569668

New thread, everyone out

>>153569668
>>153569668
>>153569668
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>>153569631
Whos trolling who? All I see is thighs and /fa/.
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>>153561023
can't suck any harder than the direct

at least there's the Puyo Puyo 3DS game
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