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EVIL WITCH

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Ozymandias!

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I love this Oni!

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Martha stonk

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>>153440790
Martha strong!

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>>153440693
2nd CE when

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I want to fuck Gudao

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This snake is my favorite! I hope max grail-ascended Servants have their Fou limit raised soon!

>>153440784
I like him more than Fuuma anyways

I just want him to have a happy life that he couldn't have before! bring him back with Iri, Ilya and Redman!

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Reminder EAM + Arondight Overload = Dedelerator

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Xth for Best Pirates.

They will come back the next year, right?

;_;

>>153440979
Kerry doesn't deserve Iris, Shirou or Ilya. He can have redman though, they can angst together.

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Lewd!

>>153440581
>400k QP
It's 4 mil.

What makes Ruler Martha shit?

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>>153440916
After me

Who else /notdoingCamelotyet/ here

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>>153440961
I remember an anon posted his friend code with a level 90 (I think) Stheno with maxed skills.
I wish I added him

>>153441120
Her character.

>>153441120
She's fucking strong. What are you talking about.

Is there a tier list like the 5*'s 9.0s 8.5s etc. but for 4*? and consequently 3*?

>>153441158
Okay, but gameplay-wise

I wonder if Prisma Ilya is going to have My Room lines for Iri and vice versa.

>>153441242
Gameplaywise she's pretty solid, the only notable issue I can think of offhand is that her attack boost is map specific.

>>153438424
>Iri in 5*

>>153441158
Nice meme

>>153441287
>Nothing for Kerry

>>153441503
Prisma can't even give him his face, and you expect My Room lines?

>>153441503
>wasting your breath on edgelord

>>153441528
His face has been shown plenty of times

>>153441108
>/fgog/ in charge of translations

>>153441691
Miyuverse Kerry doesn't count.

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>>153441557
>tfw the only way to get servant Thor ingame is Beathrice

I mean its not that bad,but still

>>153441152
That was me! She's also level 99 until I figure out how to record Webm's on tablets and send her to 100.

Four friend slots left: 111,827,175

>>153441736
But it's still Kerry and it's the same face

>>153441750
Fuck didn't mean to quote

>>153441750
Those tits and that ass are out of this world.

>>153441750
What lewd under garments

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>>153440979
Go ahead then. I still want them to add Prisma Shirou, but I'll wait to see how Illya works for team Emiya.

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>>153441750

>turn ends
>Ozzy still doesn't stop talking
For fuck's sake Dio, shut the fuck up already.

>>153437925
>Sluts in the same position as Archer Arthuria

Sluts can annihilate the Spriggan within 1 turn so like hell they are.

>>153441914
DELET THIS

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>>153441750
>>153441914
I don't remember she having that big juicy ass

>>153440961
How about increased cost for grail ascension but each grail raises by 5 levels (those that raised to 100 get 3 grails back)

Each grail ascension let's you feed 5 more Fous of each type.

So 5* get 500 more stats

4* 1000 more

3* 1500 more

2* 1750 more

1* 2000 more

So Kojiro could have 11902 atk and 12578 hp

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No one here actually thinks Prilya is good right? The hype is just for lolis or ironically

>>153442309
we might get some neat CE's and a Shirou clone.
I'm pretty interested and hopeful.

>>153442309
I'm hyped for 4* Shirou

>>153442309
Fuck off reddit.

>>153442369
If you think Miyuverse Shirou is going to be in the event I've got some bad news for you bud

Might as well hope for Kirei in an apron.

>>153442439
I can hope. I'm curious as to who would be the welfare though.

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Did anyone manage to get the Carmilla CE. I never got it to drop. Why did they go back to farming for a CE, it was better when you could buy all the copies from shop.

>>153442309
It's good you fucking philistine.

>>153442439
They'll be in an upcoming cooking event, surely.
5* Housewife Shirou
4* Mapo Kirei
4* Apron Sakura

>>153442309
Yes yes sure everyone hate it just like you said.

I hope that help you to sleep.

>>153442517
I'm going to guess Miyu because she's less popular then Ilya or Kuro so they will be the gacha ones.

>>153442542
I got it on my first run, it was weird.

IT'S UP!

>>153442439
>implying Masterchef Kirei isn't going to be the welfare
>when he's the most popular waifu in Prilya as voted by the Japs

EXTENDED!

>>153442596
If they always went by who is least popular, then Scat wouldn't have become a welfare. It depends on what the TM staff want and their collective taste.

>Maint extended

>>153442596
yeah that's also my bet, Illya is the "Star" of the event so she has to have a rollable 5* version. Kuro is Lolicon bait so that's ez gacha money. Miyu or a weaker form of Illya are the only things i could see being Welfares.

>>153442542
I had two drop relatively early.

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http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/iwmh7k/

>>153442705
Scat is already a limited time gacha exclusive, and made a mint. All the limiteds in the swimsuit event were alternative normal gachas and the welfare was a limited.

This collab is going to be a one off with everyone brand new though, so they have no reason not to go full jew. It's either the least popular one is the welfare, like the Zero "collab", or the welfare is a normal Ilya and the 5* is an alternative waifu Ilya, like the KnK collab.

>>153442849
>Brynhild bond CE
D A N G E R
Z O N E

>>153442849
>MHX bond CE
THE TIME HAS COME TO PURGE THE SABERFACES

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>>153442698
>>153442710

>All these extra quartz I won't be able to spend on rolling for Swimsuit Anne & Mary

kill me

>>153442849
>Bride
Finally.

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>>153442849
>Best Saber is getting a bond CE
The madman can't be stopped, buster damage or attack boost here we come

>>153442849
>Fionn and MHX

Yes

>>153442596
They don't mind giving away popular characters, so I bet it'll be Kuro since she's inbetween Illya and Miyu. She's also an Archer and not a Caster, and only has a single battle design.

>>153442980
>only has a single battle design
Shit you're right.

>>153442938
You fell for it.

>>153442849
>Fergus
Yay

He's my only maxed Saber, now all those bond points can go somewhere

>>153442980
In b4 Kuro only gushes about Shirou and gives zero fucks about Guda

Who's ready for the NTR Waifu Loli posting?

>>153442596
I am betting on Kuro for 2nd welfare Archer.

>>153442980
Most of the originals only had one design before GO too. Shit, most of them still only have one design and the ascensions are just taking off clothes.

>>153443042
as unlikely and borderline impossible as that is, i'd laugh.

>>153441120
>Gilles Bond CE
Oh boy, time for 50% more damage when <Jeanne> or <Jeanne Alter> is on the field

>>153442596
>it is some old hag that no one gives a fuck about like rin or luvia

Got nothing, what a pleasant surprise.

>>153443193
I object to that.
there are people who like Luvia.

>>153443193
>no one gives a fuck about
>Luvia
Luvia is the best character in Prilya.

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>>153440581
Who /jeanne/ here!

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>>153440790
>>153440860
>tfw couldn't roll her even after spending all my quartz

>>153443295
Gilles.

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>>153443295

Am I the only one here who doesnt bother getting the Bond CEs, considering the stupid amounts of grinding needded for it?

Especcially the Dango-tier 4AP farm

>>153443295
Why is Gilles' OC donut steel so much better than the real deal?

It's up by the way.

>>153442849
>MHX
Time for rocket ships!

>>153443485
Alter actually has a personality.

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I want both Gawain and Tristan so sweet. Thought DESU i want Tristan more.

>>153443482
It's something you work towards gradually over a long period of time.

You throw a Servant you want the bond CE for in the back of a team you farm with and just wait.

>>153443463
It's like a loving big sister and a bratty little sister.
I wish i could be their younger brother!

>want to roll for gawain
>afraid that i'll get fucked over by vanilla titturia

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I shall save my quartz for xmas.. Too many baits... nothing will stop me from getting enkidu

>6 tickets
>Lancer Arturia

OH BABY YES PLEASE

>>153442851
This event is certainly different if Kodokawa is the one to decide on servant designs, star ratings, and the possibility of a welfare.

There's too much unknown to say who will be the welfare, or even if there will be one. I'm not going to discount the possibility yet because of how many ways it could go, but if Kodokawa is calling the shots, then I'll give up hope.

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>160 quartz and 5 tickets later
>np 2 Tristan and sieg

Gawain where

I wish Bedivere was on rate up so I had an excuse to roll the story gacha gacha.

>>153442849
Oh shit is that my nigga

>>153443715
>thinks Kadokawa will be less jew than DW
topkek

I can't even fucking get in. Send help.

>>153443647
You're many times more likely to roll a 4* Gawain than a 5* Lancer Artoria.
worry about getting spooked by Tristan.

>>153442849
How long till datamine

>>153443715
>This event is certainly different if Kodokawa is the one to decide on servant designs, star ratings, and the possibility of a welfare.
Designs yes but whether or not there will be a welfare and rarity? No, he isn't going to be in charge of that. He is going to be involved in the process but he's not the person deciding.

I'd be fucking shocked if he had anything to do with deciding if theres a welfare or not at all. If DW wants to put in a welfare character they are just going to tell him not to give someone extra designs.

You are also completely insane if you think a cross-promotional event isn't going to have a welfare. Even DW has precedence for not being that stupid.

>>153443809
That exact thing just happened to me though. No Gawain, only Simba.

Well. Time to make the best of a bad situation. How do I make Tituria usable? Slap a K-scope on her?

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Bait Gacha confirmed. Should I try singles meme? I just want Tristan.

>>153441120
No buster or attack up.

>a gatcha that only those that beat camelot can benefit from
Fucking Jewish bullshit. At least make it so those who haven't beaten Camelot have a chance to roll the rate ups.

>>153444013
Are you stupid or just new?

>>153444013
you cannot be this retarded

>>153444013
>BITE MY BAIT PLEASE SENPAI

>>153443949
I already have two Tristans and I want Gawain and I only have enough quartz for 6 singles

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>>153444013
damm son

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First roll had Titty Arthuria and Tristan. Second roll, best knight popped out.

>>153444075
>>153444084
>>153444126
>>153444169

Thanks for the (You)s

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>gold Saber
>Siegfried
>gold Archer
>Emiya
>gold Lancer
>Liz
GET OUT OF MY ROLLS IYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>153440581
How would you improve my Quick meme team?

Also working on Jack, maybe 90 the next friday.

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>>153444250
Jelly
Got my Tristans already and a Sieg on one roll

Can't help but be mad that Sieg could be Gawain

My luck is shunted

>>153444397
needs an IA

>>153444397
>no Quick buffer

Go raise Alex

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>>153441120
If I had to criticize, her damage output as a support member isn't as high as the Berserker supports in my friendlist, so while she herself takes little damage (as long as I shield her from NPs), the rest of my party suffers from the longer fights. And if the rest of the party goes down, I fear even she might not survive much longer.

That's as an overleveled support. As a similarly-leveled party member, I imagine she'll make good filler muscle who resists most enemies.

>>153442542
I got a couple as drops.

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Wait, why is Camelot Part 2 an Event Gacha and not the Story Gacha?

>>153444397
Drop Black Grail for a crit damage CE. Maybe drop the Shiki CE for something more useful as well.

>>153444604
Because it has always been like that.

So I managed to pull Archer Artoria on my penultimate ticket drop. I didn't have any other leveled gold Archers, so she's definitely going on my team, but how is she?

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>>153444604
Don't fix what isn't broken.

>>153444604
Are you a new user?

>>153444551
I was planning on using an Atalanta Support

Should i use Alex instead of My boi caesar?
Is NP damage less effective than Card performance?

>>153444494
No luck here.

>>153444669
I have no IA
>Drop Black Grail for a crit damage CE.
Is lunar Onsen a good exchange?

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You are not Gawain, but at least I reunited you with Shuten.
Why the fuck did I spend 50 euros on this game. There were all the signals that Gawain wouldn't come to me and yet. 4 10 rolls full of CE I already had and I get this gold from a desparate single. This earth and gatcha is gay.
This is going to calm me down at least.

>>153444745
Broken as fuck.

>>153444987
Got Knight's Pride?
That one pretty good on Sluts

>>153444987
>Is NP damage less effective than Card performance?
Yes.

>>153444987
>Is lunar Onsen a good exchange?
It'll help make up for Caesar.

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>>153445027
Hey, at least you rolled cutest Oni.

So what's the skill levelling order for Gawain?

>>153445074
How so?

>>153445171
Firing off a single target NP basically every turn since firing it recharges her NP.

>>153445237
>gareth-chan

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I wanted Gawain but i really can't complain.

>>153445027
Be content with your cute Oni anon.

>>153445324
You got worst Lancer

You definitely can complain

>>153445324
Saberlot's the real prize there.

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So what is Tristan good for

I want to ascend him for his pimpin cape but I already have two grail ascended silver archers

>>153445324
>Saberlot and FP farmer
Hey that's pretty good.

>>153445391
>So what is Tristan good for
Harp of Healing
Looking pretty
I can't think of anything else.

>>153445391
He shit stars and has pretty good NP gen.
Harp of Healing is definitely one of the best skill ingame.

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>>153445131
>>153445338
I will. I'm more of a Master for bad people either way.

>>153445131
You mean worst oni

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>>153445250
Oh, I see. Yeah, that seems pretty great.

Anyway, this is my current team (Under construction, levelling and fouing up most everyone). What CEs should I use for them?

There's a new node in Okeanos.

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So in that leaked list was there anything about Prisma Servants? If there's a Servant Chloe or Archer-Installed Shirou my wallet is going to disappear fast.

>>153445710
Lying is bad anon.

>>153445725
No, there wasn't.

>>153445650
yo that's a pretty decent arts meme team. Use things like projection magic and formalcraft, another ending is also good. Hell, even LB'd blue black keys work.

>>153445741
It drops shells.

>>153444745
NP every 2-3 turn without a proper arts team.
3 every 4 turn with Tamamo and Waver.

>>153445324
Lancer Artoria is at least cute and sexy.
Saber Lancelot is way better than Gawain.
You also got LoZ.

>>153445741
Check yourself.
There Crabs enemy.

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>>153445512
>>153445485
I guess I need a stargen guy and I just got Twice so why not

Still holding out for Gawain though so I can have a pimp cape party

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>>153441772
Sorry for the late reply. Went to play vidya during maintenance.
I'm Hitagi Crab
Thanks, anon!

>>153445772
>>153445820
Well i'll be damned, i guess all those anons going on about "COLLECT SHELLS NOW SINCE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO FARM THEM AGAIN"

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better than expected. I also got Nitocris from using my 3 last tickets.

>>153445849
>crabfag
>/feg/ image
this must be bait

>>153445650
>Been playing since the Zero event
>Servants are still shit

Step it up senpai. But in all seriousness, focus on arts/crit damage CEs for Artoria, (maybe a NP filler but that'd be a bit redundant) Star of Artoria on Nero to make up for her shitty attack stat, and having yet another life just makes using her more fun. For Waver, Final Destination or Golden Catches a Carp are both good. Generally CEs that help the rest of your party. Don't give him shit for damage. For Shiki, get a crit star generator or crit star absorber. Never pulled the Lancer so I know nothing about using him.

>>153445324
>rolls the one 5* Lancer that can be outperformed by Grail-Ascended 3*s
My condolences anon.

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Whelp.

>>153445976
I don't get it, how is she bad? I've been using her and she's fine. Only at 70 right now but all 3 of her skills are good, and she's hitting pretty damn hard for 70.

Does she scale poorly or what? I see nothing that makes her a shit 5*.

I wish I had friends who had lancelot or gawain as their saber support instead of a wall of 5*

>>153441321
Both are. Isn't that kind of a big deal?

Datamine is out.
https://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/craft_essence.html

>>153446082
It's a meme. She's great.

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>>153445597
Hmm, nope. I definitely meant best Oni.

>>153446067
I feel your pain, anon.

>>153446103
>MHX's bond CE is a kill-list

>>153446103
Why is MHX after Saber Shiki?

>>153446103
The beowulf one sounds rad.
(old) beowulf when?

>>153446270
>Saber
there you go

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>>153444397
>>153444987
Will this make it?

>>153445080
Nope
Shit luck here.

>>153446082
She's a 5* that's not Amakusa so she's usable by default but her focus is on HP rather than attack, charisma is badly powercreeped, and her NP is like Angra Mainyu's, designed to screw over the player when fighting them but overall weak in the hands of the player.

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>>153446103
Does it matter? Getting to 10 bond is impossible. I've been playing since long before the bond limit increased, I've used Saber in nearly every single mission with the bond CE on, and I don't even have her at rank 7. Seriously, how the fuck does anyone have those CEs?

>>153446082
We've been through this before, but basically compared to the other Lancers she doesn't hit as hard and has poor survivability, and does nothing besides that. She's usable if she's your only gold Lancer but with Grail Ascension Hector or Romulus are now better AoE Lancers than she is.

>tfw your cunt doesn't have a servant
>tfw even if we get one it will probably be some meme that causes a week-long shitstorm

>>153446270
She's also after Sumanai.

>>153446364
Whales already have all of them

>>153445905
Other than Nero, I've played with none of these guys- that's why they're so low-level.

So far I've put Meat Fight on Nero, Faithful Dogs Can't Wait Anymore on Artoria, and Last Encore on Waver, with Another Ending planned for Shiki. Iunno what to do for Fionn, he's just there for the Arts.

>>153446362
>designed to screw over the player when fighting them but overall weak in the hands of the player
But the flavor can be so fun.
>Boss throws up invincibility
>"Fuck you"
>Rhongomyniad
Even if it doesn't do a lot of damage, it's still fun.

>>153446362
Fill me in on Charisma?

>>153446438
I wonder how many nips have gone bankrupt just so that they can have lvl 10 bond with all of their np5 saberwaifus.

>>153446440
Update- to tell you how shittily I was playing, one of my main servants was my NP2 Amakusa.

It hurts...

On the subject of ineffective Servants, now that she's been out for a while, is Ruler Martha any good? Somehow I pulled her twice so I feel obliged to use her, but a damage buster Ruler? I don't get it. She's tanky from being a Ruler and a short-cooldown self-heal, but unless it's an event like Onigashima, tankiness isn't that amazing.

Is she good for anything?

>>153446364
autistic grinding of 4AP

there's no reasonable way to get Bond CEs until they bring back Bond Daiilies

Do you think there will be a welfare for the Halloween event? If so who do you think is going to be?

>>153446103
Looks like they're all party buffs.
>MHX
Anti-Saber bonus damage
>Bryn
Buster damage and NP charge rate
>Bride
Arts buff, same as normal Nero
>Beowulf
Anti-Dragon bonus damage
>Finn
Arts buff and NP damage buff
>Gilles
Buster buff but debuff resist debuff
>Mephisto
NP damage buff
>Fergus
Buster buff and NP damage buff
>Sanson
Increased instant-kill chance and NP charge rate
>Caligula
Buster buff but Def debuff.

>>153446632
She's the 2nd best offensive Ruler after Jannu Alter, and everyone seems to love her.

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>>153446103

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So are you still using Scat Ass?

>>153446440
Good choice for Artoria, Encore is a solid choice for Waver albeit not ideal since you can't level it. My main recommendations for Shiki would be another ending or Leisure Walk if you really like her crits. And like I said, I know jack shit about Fionn. Giving him something basic like projection magic would work.

>>153446667
The worst part about Bond CEs is that, unless you are stacking the same effect on the front line, the effects of the CEs are outplayed by existing CEs already, unless it's unique. Why use Caligula's CE when a L/ZO does the job a million times better? As well as not locking bonus stats at only +100/+100

>Bond CEs debuffing your team
Also this

>>153446757
I'm waiting 5 hours for the EXP cards to get her to 80. Then she'll have a pretty permanent spot on my quick squad.

>>153446739
Why Fergus drinking chili sauce?

>>153446695
>Ruler
>Jannu Alter
anon...

>>153446695
>2nd best offensive Ruler
Aren't there only 2?

>>153446667
>>Caligula
>Buster buff but Def debuff.
BUSTER HARDER
TRULY THE EPITOME OF THE BERSERKER CLASS

I guess I should get him to level 90 already.

>>153446695
Seriously not sure if trolling or retarded

>>153446835
Stacking the same effect, or complimentary effects at least, is the point. And you don't even have to stack it with other bond CEs. Consider something like Drake, Tesla, and some third Servant with Black Grail and a very easy to charge NP.

>>153446914
OK, I DOUBLE fucked up. In that case, she's the best Offensive Ruler, because the alternative is Amakusa.

>>153446835
The only advantage here is that you have to roll L/OZ while Caligula's CE is guaranteed

>>153446091
Only one of her attack boosts is map specific senpai, the other one is trait specific. Her base attack is really high though.

>>153446932
Just give him L/ZO, it will let him easily hit those raw 12k~ Busters without making your whole team explode if the enemy sneezes

>>153446983
>>153447019
For the amount of effort it takes to get a Bond CE at this current moment, you can forgive me if I don't see the worth in them still

>>153446364
I've been playing since long before the bond limit increased and use Waver for every mission with double bond CE and he's at 9/10 now. Waver has more bond then Saber too, get good senpai

>>153447082
Well think about it this way. For hoarders that wait for their waifu, like SS-chan, bond CEs and event CEs are the only CEs they can get

>>153447082
In a few more months when regular players start getting their bond CEs, you're going to be upset with yourself.

Should one use a Buster buffing CE on Ibaraki or something for her NP? I have no idea on how to deal with her.

What's a good CE for Lancer Arthuria? Just rolled her and I'm pretty glad.

>>153447195
The trash can fits her perfectly.

>have bond dailies when they're completely useless outside of mat farming
>remove them and then introduce CEs that require shitload of bond to get
>rejoice while players linger in misery and long for the return of bond dailies

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>>153446565
Not him but


>Beach Flower A+: 19.5% Attack Increase for team and Males get a 41% Star Gen increase for 3 turns
>Demon Of the Oni Kind A: 20% Attack Increase for team and 30% NP Damage Up on self for 3 turns
>Dragon Witch EX: 20% Attack Increase for Team and additional 20% Attack Increase for team if they have [Dragon] Attribute for 3 turns
>Command of Strategiest A+: 30% Attack Increase for Team,increase overall damage for team by 500 for 3 turns and Charge team NP Gauge by 10%

>Charisma B: 18% Attack Increase for team for 3 turns

>>153446739
>they didn't rip the clean full CE image
>they ripped the CE icon though
I don't get it, what the hell is kazemai doing? Why are they only partially datamining the images?

>>153447254
Look at the background behind the CE. Those weren't datamined. They are screenshots.

>>153447192
Sumo is good enough

>>153446667
>Beowulf gets an effect that he should have as a passive anyway for his Bond CE

Disgusting

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>>153447215
This nigga salty af

>>153447192
Buster buff if NP1, NP charge 50% or higher if NP3-5, both are equally good at NP2.

>>153447390
Beowulf is better known for killing Grendel and its mother than for killing the dragon. The real injustice is that got an anti-dragon bond CE at all and Siegfried didn't.

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Prisma Illya event fucking when? I need to pull a cute girl to get over my swimsuit Artoria salt.

>>153447365
>>153447420
No Sumo CE cause my phone broke before the event. Gonna use Maiden Leading Chaldea/Ilya then. Thank you.

>>153447195
Buster boosts, crit star absorbtion.

>>153447448
implying hobo trash like you will roll them

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>>153447356
That's what I meant!

They ripped these small icons, which means they can also rip the full images, but they didn't. They uploaded screenshots instead.

They did the same thing during the summer event part 2. No full images, but icons and all data got datamined.

>>153447225
You forgot
>Whim of the Goddess A: 20% Attack Increase for Team and additional 20% Attack Increase for team if they have [Divine] Attribute for 3 turns

>>153447409
salty? why would I want to roll a shit 5*?

>>153446739
>Caligula CE is about Nero

When will this fucking end?

>>153447435
Siegfried got Dragonslayer as a skill though, and Beowulf's profile notes he's famous for killing the archetypal western dragon, the one all other wester dragons are based off of. It's horseshit that he didn't have Dragonslayer as a passive and ended up getting a near useless bond CE because of it.

why the FUCK does everything caligula does make his defense shittier

>>153447679
That his entire character.
He exist for the sole fo wanking his niece.
Thats it.

Been reading through the Apoc LN

Karna's shown to have the upper hand against both Vlad and Sieg, but Achilles is stated repeatedly to be on the same level as him and has been called the 'greatest hero of the war'

Lorewise Karna vs Achilles who would win? Achilles is a tad faster but Karna seems to hit harder thanks to Prana Burst and is much tankier. I don't know about technique but probably would give the edge in skill to Karna here, he was beating out Sieg who is a top level swordsman himself whereas Achilles had some trouble against Chiron at the start before adapting.

Achilles' chariot seems to be pretty limited here, it would face the same fate as Iskander's Chariot as Karna can just Brahmastra it.

Vasavi Shakti can be countered by Akhilleus Cosmos though so if Achilles can bait Karna into sacrificing his armour and spear to use it he can probably take out the unarmed Karna afterwards, though I don't see how Achilles can pressure Karna into using VS instead of just Brahmastra Kundala

>>153447679
Never.

Every time until you like it.

>>153447782
He wants to die.

>>153447659
You probably can't even roll a 5* in the first place fucking peasant

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Would you like this support list? I don't know if use the Atalanta CE on Scat Ass or Gandr

>inb4 lever your shit
I know, I'm on it, without 1/2 AP dailies is difficult to get the necessary EXP cards to max everything
I hate having Alexander in Rider slot but I don't really have anything else, I missed onigashima

>>153447806
>implying anyone can beat curry

>>153447802
>boudica, caligula and romulus
>all have been reduced into mere tools of nerowank

>>153447160
Most players don't rely on one team with the same servants all the time, so at best they'll have 1 or 2 Bond CEs which by themselves are pitiful unless it belongs to a support who will gain from it anyways.

But for the Attacker roles like Scat? +100/+100 15% Quick for everyone is not worth giving up Sumo on her or Carmilla CE

Bond CE "teams" basically rely on one gimmick to it where you buff a Card type to ludicrous degrees or counter-trait harder

>>153447853
Once I saw how shit Lancer was in gameplay I saved my quartz smartly and got the best Arturia instead. Archer BTFO Lancer so badly it isn't even a contest.

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>>153446364
Herakekfags need something to feel good about their meme Servant. Without that CE Herakek is 9.0 tier just like Beowulf.

>>153447806
Karna counters the armour because of his Divinity IIRC while Achilles can't really get through Karna's.
Only way for Achilles to win is to activate Duel Field.

>>153444250
Why is he suck a manlet

>>153447806
>Lorewise Karna vs Achilles who would win?
Well I didn't see that one for a long time.

What if they changed Berserker Kiyohime's moveset away from the generic-Caster animations but kept her NP gain rate?

Would she be the best Silverserker?

>>153447806
Achilles and Karna are in the same spot as Gilgamesh, Ozymandias, and Lancelot when it comes to being called overpowered. Also isn't Achilles greatest NP something where it requires his opponent to agree to a single duel with him but its useless if an enemy Servant refuses to go with it?

>>153448092
yeah but why would they do that when you already whaled for the lancer version?

>>153447806
but Achilles vs Karna is a hilariously bad match up for Achilles

>>153447875
>Arondight Overload his throat
>curryshit head explodes from the swordbeam coming from inside his throat

>>153447806
Karna should win. Achilles only has Kosmos to compete and it seems Vasavi can fuck it up. Brahmastra beats Achilles after the Vasavi vs Kosmos clash.

>>153447971
I'm pretty sure being crushed by a world is enough to die even with the armor. Vasavi can nullify that though.

>>153448092
She's already the best silverserker, you mongrel!

>>153448093
>the same spot

What spot is that?

>>153448215
STRONK tier

>>153446739
Why is Saber Gilles bond CE the book? Shouldn't that be Caster Gilles one?

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>>153448093
>Achilles and Karna are in the same spot as Gilgamesh, Ozymandias, and Lancelot when it comes to being called overpowered.
Achilles doesn't seem that powerful though, excuse me if i sound like someone who just dislikes him but the only things he REALLY has going for him are his super speed and divine body, but Divine servants are a dime a dozen and his speed is just "faster than the current fastest person" so it doesn't seem like he hits "you can't even see or keep up with my movements" speed either.

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>>153448326
>he doesn't know

>>153447195
For cheap use LB that 3* CE that fills NP gauge 50%.
Or something that increases her ATK

>>153447082
If only I have LOZ.
I can just bring Waver or Andersen I guess.

>>153448092
You mean increase the hit numbers?
She's already the best in NP damage though.

Guys, why hasn't the tickets in Da Vinci shop refreshed yet? I thought it was supposed to refresh today? I need the tickets to roll Lancer Artoria.

>>153447806
>I don't know about technique but probably would give the edge in skill to Karna here
They are implied to be at the same level at least according to materials.

Achilles had trouble with Chrion because Chiron knew all of Achilles' tricks.

>though I don't see how Achilles can pressure Karna into using VS instead of just Brahmastra Kundala
By using Kosmos to crush Karna

>>153446739
>Beowulf gets the awesome draogn he killed as a bond CE
>Sumanai just gets the shitty otterbelt gold stash that plays an extremely negligible role in his story
Yare Yare daze.

>>153448465
retard

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Anyone have the FGO material DL links? Cant find them to save my life.

>>153447806
It's a horrible matchup for Achilles, because Achilles' greatest strength is his invulnerability, which Karna's Divinity makes worthless. Achilles doesn't have any enormously powerful offensive Noble Phantasms besides the chariot and technically Kosmos, but Karna can destroy the chariot with either Brahmastra, and if push comes to shove can destroy Kosmos with Vasavi.

Achilles is a tad faster, but only a tad. Karna's "but a step slower" than him, and he's superior in terms of skill and technique as well as reach for their spears. On top of that, Achilles takes full damage from any hit, plus Prana Burst Flames for even more damage. The issue with Achilles is that he just can't deal enough damage to Karna while he has his armor up, and Karna's never going to use Vasavi when Brahmastra Kundala would suffice. Kosmos can more than likely block BK, but in that case assuming they're both at the most powerful they were in Apoc where they had unlimited mana, it's a stalemate, and one that Karna can push into a win if BK would actually damage Kosmos' barrier.

Duel Field seems like it's Achilles' only way of evening the odds, but realistically it means giving up his buff from Affections to get rid of Karna's armor, which aside from the fact that Karna wouldn't ever do something that makes it easier for his enemies to win over him and his Master according to CCC, it removes the single biggest mana drain he has. Suddenly Achilles has to deal with someone who's only barely slower than him, has trained in an older martial art based on defense that was handed down from Shiva, and can now Prana Burst far, far more thanks to not having to worry about his armor draining mana.

In short, Karna most likely wins, because Achilles has no way of damaging him that Karna can't counter, and any way Achilles can counter him works out badly for Achilles in the end.

>>153448423
I know he has the book, I have him fully ascended.

I'm asking why the bond CE for the Saber version rather then the Caster version is the book. Saber Gilles seems like he should have something important to him before the murders.

>>153448465
>Guys, why hasn't the tickets in Da Vinci shop refreshed yet?
Can't you even guess what means the 4 in the cool down box in the Da Vinci store? Jesus. Wait 5 more hours. It restores everything at 00:00 in Japan

>>153448407
>Achilles doesn't seem that powerful though
Kosmos alone is unbeatable for at least 99% of Servants and he can use it to crush his opponents.

Apo Material says not many can keep up with his speed too and Duel Field can counter many proud heroes as his skill is implied to be around the same level as Karna.

>>153448557
That statement about Achilles being the only one equal to Karna seems really silly in hindsight, he has so many disadvantages against him, even Siegfried would have a better chance.

>>153447875

Karna's top level for sure but Gilgamesh, Enkidu, Arjuna, Heracles can all give him a run for his money.

If considering NPs Arturia should stand a chance too. She's outmatched in technique but with Prana Burst she can match his blows at least and Excalibur is most likely capable of matching Brahmastra Kundala and if he busts out Vasavi Shakti Avalon is capable of defending against it.

>>153447971
>>153448093
>>153448186
>>153448407


Duel Field shouldn't do anything against Karna in terms of reducing his combat effectiveness though. Also I would consider Kosmos a counter to Vasavi rather than the other way around, Karna loses his armour and spear after Vasavi and while Kosmos also gets destroyed Achilles is fully armed and should have the upper hand even though Karna can still use Brahmastra.

I wouldn't consider Lancelot on the same level as Gil and Ozy in terms of OP, he'd be on a slightly lower tier with Achilles. Lancelot is basically a slightly more skilled Arturia with a weaker sword beam and no Avalon. Heck since Saber Lancelot lacks Prana Burst Arturia probably hits harder than him.

>>153448557
thanks for answer.

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>>153446103
I really liked Brynhildr's CE, so I tried my hand at a little amateur translation.

>Inextinguishable Flame

>I am aflame.

>Yes. I am burning.
>Yes. It is flame.
>No, it is no joke. It is the truth.
>As we speak, I am burning brilliantly, crackling and roaring.
>Can't you hear it?

>My existence has been bound together with flame from beginning to end.
>The time I met Sigurd, the time I killed Sigurd.
>The time when my consciousness was born, the time when my life came to an end.
>I have always been enveloped in flame.

>By the time I noticed, I had become flame itself.
>Hey, can't you see it?
>The blue flame.
>Mana Burst?
>No, no.
>These are my feelings, overflowing from my heart, given shape.
>Even if I die, even if I lose you, it will absolutely not go out.

>If there ever came a time where it looked as though it will extinguish----
>Hehe. No, as I thought it will not go out.
>Surely, it is only smoldering.

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How long to marathon all this shit?

>>153448668
>Avalon
Saber never has Avalon to use in the first place. Also doesn't F/Z material straight up say Lancelot is more "over powered" then "over specced" as a Servant. But my point was he's stupidly broken in his own way that would be a problem for someone like Achilles.

>slightly more skilled Arturia
I'd say he's more then "slightly" better then her as a warrior or swordsmen.

>>153448649
>Kosmos alone is unbeatable for at least 99% of Servants and he can use it to crush his opponents.
He doesn't even use it yet,nobody know the full output or what kind of shape its has.

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wew

Why isn't Caligula's CE something cool like his soldiers stabbing the ocean to "fight Poseidon"?

>>153448649
The Duel Field doesn't really do anything though, it doesn't make him stronger, infact it weakens him. The only thing it's good for is to nullify master support but that works both ways. It's literally only good if a servant is being buffed out the ass by their master but even then he gives up alot for that.

Kosmos and raw speed are the only things i really see going for him, but Kosmos is strong but it's just a shield really heavy and strong shield that can be used offensively and the only time we've had an example of a servant being harshly outsped was Cu vs EMIYA and Medusa vs Saber Alter. In both cases the reviving person was able to keep a guard up.

>>153448868
Chuckled at all those hooded eyes.

>>153448557
>and he's superior in terms of skill and technique as
>He possesses power and skill that isn’t inferior to that of Achilles within the Red camp; truly a case of two star players in a single team.
His skill is implied to be around the same actually.

>Kosmos can more than likely block BK
No, it can and will easily block BK. Anti Country is not a planet Buster. Karna uses Vasavi or gets crushed.

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>>153448743
Instead of Bell End this feels like Pyre End.

>>153448550
They are in the OP.

BRYNFAGS C"U„C™K„ED

>>153448890
>Roman
>Poseidon
choose one

>>153449137
H I G H
E F F O R T
S H I T P O S T I NG

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Best place to farm medals?
I'm still hell bent on getting Gawain but I want to ascend Tristan while I wait for tickets to reset

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Best place to farm gears?
I've been trying to get them from Chicago still after 3 Apples no one showed up.


I just want to be a good mommy.

>>153449235
RUINED FOR MARRIAGE
SHE BETTER TAKE RESPONSIBILITY

>>153449235

Translate it, weebs.

>>153448668
>I wouldn't consider Lancelot on the same level as Gil and Ozy in terms of OP
Yeah he is far above Gil but below Ozy.

>he'd be on a slightly lower tier with Achilles
Nice headcanon. Achilles is "ultra high spec" while Lancelot is "beyond the realm of high spec right into completely overpowered" according to materials.

>Lancelot is basically a slightly more skilled Arturia
Except the novel says he is many times greater in skill.

>with a weaker sword beam and no Avalon
But has inject swordbeam and infinite durability sword, NP stealing, turning anything even nukes into NPs and shapeshifting that worked on a fucking Mind Reader that can see the future like Arash.

>Heck since Saber Lancelot lacks Prana Burst Arturia probably hits harder than him
Prana Burst is what grants her A STR to begin with. She isn't going to hit harder because PB is the source of her STR to begin with.

>>153448657
Welcome to the Nasuverse, where statements that are simple to accept at first end up looking silly as hell later on. I doubt Siegfried would have a better chance though, he falls harder into the issue of "not having any way to deal significant damage" than Achilles does.

>>153448668
You're welcome, but BK is above Excalibur by several notches. Balmung is roughly around Excalibur-tier, but below it in terms of power, and Sieg only managed to survive it by spamming Balmungs as fast as he could swing his sword, which almost certainly exceeded Excalibur in terms of power since they all hit around the same time and still only managed to block it, rather than actually damage Karna.

Also, Karna doesn't lose the spear after Vasavi now, apparently. It remains in the enormous bladed state.

>>153448990
Isn't inferior means "equal to or greater than" and he's called the pinnacle of spearmen in Apoc. At the absolute best, they're equal in skill, but that requires you to ignore everything said about Karna's technique in Apoc and blindly point to the one thing that implies they could maybe be equal. But yes, you're right about it blocking BK, but if it's the scenario like I said nothing's stopping Karna from raining down BKs while Achilles has to keep up Kosmos, resulting in a stalemate or worse for Achilles if Kosmos can take stacking damage from things, which is likely considering Jeanne's barrier NP does the same thing as it.

>>153448761
That's 200 hours worth of animated content, just read the vn(70) and watch knk(12).

After that you are no longer an uncultured scum, zero is not worth watching.
Watch prillya if you are pedoscum.

>>153448761
Two of them aren't out and you shouldn't be watching UBW and Prilya in the first place.

>>153448761

When does the HF anime air anyway?

>>153449403
True, but he's alot less vunrable to Karna's attacks since Achilles has to rely on Kosmos, which we haven't really seen used all to much. we don' even know how he uses it or what level of skill he has with it. but yeah probably, Siegfried only has Balmung and his regular sword strikes, which are powerful but not quite strong enough.

Also Balmung is more along Galatine and caladbolg's level of strength, BK is probably alot more powerful than Excalibur but Balmung isn't as strong as you think.

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>still no Ko-Gil CE
I wish they would just release them more often.

>>153448810
We know it can only be defeated by Anti World and even Vasavi was mostly blocked.

That's more than enough to rule out 99% of the known Servants.

>>153448910
Duel Field can negate shit like the GoB and knowing how retarded Gil is, some taunting would get him to agree.

>In both cases the reviving person was able to keep a guard up
EMIYA was only able to handle Cu because he had fought him earlier, Saber Alter could handle Medusa because there was a huge gap in terms of power.

>>153449585
>shotacon
>using a shit girl image
I'm disgusted.

>>153449585
when was the last time we even had an interlude added?

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>>153446103
>>153446739
Summary for Sanson's CE:

He invented the guillotine to try and alleviate some of the suffering inherent to execution but he inadvertently made a method of execution so convenient they just started doing even more of them and despite his intentions he only brought more suffering upon the world. Whoops!

>>153448564
>He has laid claim over the book, its binding made from human skin
>As far as how it's used, it's filled to the brim with spells which desecrate human life
>This book was meant to be burnt to ashes at the outskirts of town.
>But to him, this book was the only truth in the world.
>"(You) have trampled over our Saint", the man calls towards the Heavens.
>"Therefore, I shall also lay waste to the other miracles you have created.
>Even children, filled with innocence who should be loved, will be slaughtered."
>The man's eyes had blacked and unmoving

>>153449403
>Brahmastra Kundala above Excalibur
>same Excalibur that matched an anti-World NP while still under thirteen seals
That's doubtful

>>153449590
How would it disable GoB? it prevents intervention, divine or mortal but GoB isn't either, it's directly an NP Gilgamesh has access to not some outside thing that helps him.

>>153449645
Around Camelot'a release with Lancer Arty for one quartz

>>153448649
>>153448492

I don't really understand how Kosmos is used offensively. Apparently he tries to push them into the shield's mini world while inside duel field? I have doubts about how effective this strategy would work against Karna

>>153448774

Well I usually give Arturia Avalon when considering her maximum potential, with it she is undoubtedly a top level servant.

Zerker Lancelot is 'over-powered' in the sense that his parameters are ridiculously high, almost as high as Zerker Herc's and with Arondight drawn matches or even exceeds Zerker Herc in some areas. Plus he soft counters Gil who usually just shits on everyone, making him look OP too.

Saber Lancelot isn't really 'OP' or 'overspecced', even with Arondight drawn he'd still only be approaching his Berserker self in terms of stats. Arondight is basically generic holy sword with sword beam. In fact Lancelot is arguably better as a Zerker depending on the matchup. Against enemies with beam blasts or strong defensive NPs you'd want to be able to match them with Arondight, against those without he's better off with Zerker's stats as he doesn't lose martial skill.

He's undoubtedly the most skilled of the Round Table in sword fighting, but the gap isn't huge. Arturia was still able to defend herself against Zerker Lancelot with with both Mad Enhancement and Arondight's stat buffs long enough for Kariya to die first. I'd say he's around Siegfried's level so slightly below Karna. The most 'skilled' swordsman in Fate is probably Kojirou actually.

>>153449403
Balmung is only A+ compared to A++ of Excalibur plus it's an AoE 'wave' instead of a more concentrated beam. Given how Excalibur is touted all the time as the strongest of holy swords (and basically of sword beams) I don't think it would lose to BK though I doubt it will over power BK. Vasavi Shakti would definitely overpower Excalibur Ea-style though. And I thought Karna lost in Apoc because he was left weaponless after using VS?

>>153446739
Anyone got a translation or summary for Beowulf's CE?

>>153449645
arash?

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>>153449654
Thank you Sanson

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I wanted tituria ;_;

>>153449645
Camelot.
Raikou,Arash and Arthuria Lancer is the only one getting it

>>153449654
Sanson didn't invent the guillotine.

>>153449726
Yeah that's why i'm so weirded out by Kosmos, not only have we not seen it used by Achilles at all but it supposedly "crushes the target with the weight of the mini-world" but that wouldn't work too well since you need to get them under the shield and prevent them from just moving out from under it, it's definitely a really strong defensive NP but i don't see it being amazing as an offensive tool or even something in Melee combat since it supposedly weighs as much as the world.

>>153449659
>Best Saber's CE is about being an edgelord
I'm slightly disappointed

>>153449726
>The most 'skilled' swordsman in Fate is probably Kojirou actually
It took the faggot a lifetime to figure out how to kill a bird. He's shit.

>>153449659
Is that the bonds translation? Gilles can't catch a break, even when you are best mates with him he's all about murder.

I hope the other Gilles CE isn't just basically the same thing though.

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>only rolled tristan,Kaleido, and lancer Arturia
>No Gawain
>not even on my main
Just end me

>>153449702
Excalibur didn't "match" Ea, it barely held it off while Gil was toying with her, and she still almost died. Two Balmungs is likely more powerful than Excaibur, and Sieg had to spam multiple Balmungs as fast as he could to match Brahmastra Kundala. On top of that, BK is Anti-Country and is noted to be on the level of a nuke, which Excalibur has never been shown to come close to.

>>153449726
Basically he calls up the barrier of the shield and tries to squish people with it. Also, Ranks don't necessarily translate into pure power, but yes, you're right, Balmung is weaker than Excalibur. However, as I said above, Sieg needed multiple Balmungs spammed as fast as he could to match BK, and it's highly unlikely that Excalibur is stronger than that. Sure, it's the strongest holy sword and all that, but there are things that are stronger than it when it's not being buffed against a threat to the planet, and a nuke is beyond anything it's ever been capable of. And no, he lost because he wanted to die at that point, since he would be depriving Amakusa of his strongest Servant and he already both protected all the Red Masters and had a battle with Siegfried, kind of, so he fulfilled all his desires except to help stop Amakusa. He essentially lets Sieg kill him once he uses VS, because his end goal was to die.

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>>153449643
It's the only chibi I have with that pose. I'll make an alternative of it just for you anon.

>>153449947
he was able to completely dismantle Artoria in a direct fight of swordsmanship even though she had a shit loud of physical advantages. he's definitely in the top 5 in raw sword skill.

>>153449805
But now you can become an Ozzyfag and participate in all the Ozzy vs Gil debates.

>>153449954
I hope Caster Gilles is something written by Francesca

>>153449726
>Kojirou
He's slightly better than Arturia, nothing more. Tsubame Gaeshi isn't even good enough to be categorized as a real NP.

Should I use all my Chains and Lamps to max Ozzy's 3rd skill?

>>153449403
>BK is above Excalibur by several notches.
Ah this Karnafag is just delusional.

>Balmung is roughly around Excalibur-tier
Not all beams are the same you stupid fuck. Balmung is FAR weaker than Excalibur.

It goes like this
Excalibur >>> Merodach > Gram >>>> Caliburn and Balmung. Read the VN.

>which almost certainly exceeded Excalibur in terms of power
Yeah try citing that it could even go to the level of Arondight. Excalibur is a rank and a type above Balmung. The difference in power is far above what you are thinking. You saw how fast and easily Bellerophon and Iskander chariot were erased? Balmung would lose as easily against Excalibur.

>Also, Karna doesn't lose the spear after Vasavi now, apparently
What the fuck are you talking about?

>Isn't inferior means
Means equal. Note how it didn't say Karna was superior either. If he was they could have just said it right away.

>but if it's the scenario like I said nothing's stopping Karna from raining down BKs
Oh wow even more stupidity. What makes you think he can spam BK? Why didn't he just do that in Apocrypha then?