/mbgg/ - Mobage General #597

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First for Sakaguchi ruining everything

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2nd for letting the last thread die

Is the chink gunfu game >fun or just another grind fest?

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>>153393092
Can't be helped. His need for expensive alcohol spiraled out of control and SOMEONE has to pay for it.

Also data miner claims Snaip^ will be on this week - along 8-bit-Golem, featuring lots of Twisters. Which means Suoh^, Daiana^ and...what a surprise, Mizell would make decent movers - if they didn't all do jack against a Spear-type with resistances on steroid. Incidentally SnaipO grants Snaip Twister-immunity and will surely appear on the TP - once again creating the paradox of locking the key to beat the stage behind...beating the stage.

>>153393191
It actually went 16 posts past autosage, seemed nobody remembered to make the new thread in time.

Shadowverse general when?

>>153394568
After Steam release. I can only hope it won't be full of shitposting like most of the games that came out of /mbgg/

>>153393787
At this point my decision not to recode 100% A's and B's is a pretty easy one. I'm just going to focus on SB training and farm whatever might be decent without too much hassle, like this week's companion tickets. Hopefully MW pulls back a little on at least some of the overbearing new traps on at least the repeat grind stuff like 8bit. On the other hand, it seems like all the new O2 otomo are focused on trap destruction, so if MW sticks to their game-ending strategy, the only viable option might be 100 luck PoF teams hoping to get lucky off 100 chests.

>>153393787

Considering my luck with those orbling runs I'm not confident I'll even get the drop and i definitely won't bother to 100% it

>>153395523

Especially since you apparently only get 1 luck per recruit

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When are they going to nerf Sword/Shadow already.
I'd like to at least try to have fun with take-two.

>>153395523
>>153395990
Seems like the way to do it is 100 luck Seiryu + Jaguna^ clearing Orbling1. Even people running a bunch of 70 luck monsters and a carry are still having shit luck getting orbling to drop.

>>153396673
Shadow is a fun class though, and them being that overly powerful in arena is just a meme anyway.

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>shadowverse
>Arena mode
>Lose a game yesterday due to connection issues
>About to win today
>Game crashes
>You forfeited
Why? They have a system to reconnect if you lose connection, why does it count as a loss if you fucking crash? Why can't I reconnect? Is Cygames really this shitty at programming?

>>153397736
No it's not.
Death's Breath and Mordecai are not even a little fair in arena and in constructed Combine them with shit like playful necromancer and it's just absurd.

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Does idol wars discussion go in /mbgg/ or in /hgg/?

It has uncensored hentai, obviously, but it is also optimized for a mobile phone and uses gacha and the usual mobage mechanics. Which general does it live in, or is anyone even playing it?

>>153398323
Technically you can discuss it in either of them, but >>>/jp/15755325

>>153397736
Sword and shadow are strong, mainly because on a whole, every single one of their class cards are good or at least usable.

Not only that, they're the only classes where rushing and aggro can be consistent in arena and your opponent might not be able to respond in any way.

Both of these problems can be fixed with the addition of new sets. Giving other classes new cards to deal with that style, and making the shadow and sword player's arena deck less likely to synergize that well.

>>153398754

Thank yo.

I didn't expect /jp/ to play an english language game. I guess english version just launched last week so maybe I am just really slowpoke.

>>153398772
They also have a lot of cards that are just completely absurd in limited formats. Cards that can just suddenly fill their board with respectable power out of nowhere like Floral Fencer, Death's Breath, and Otohime are not good things to have running around in limited. Mordecai is also a just plain stupid limited card. Sword also has the blessings of having every single legendary being absurdly good and one, Otohime, just being honestly completely overpowered in every game mode. Yes give the zoo class a way to completely refill their board if they ever lose it, perfect design.

Is the very first pull in SAO Memory Defrag, during tutorial, always a 3* Klein ?

>>153397980
They're gold cards, you'll see Death's Breath or Mordecai from like 1 in 4 Shadow players even if they pick it literally every time they get the chance. Playful Necro isn't even in the top echelon of evolve 4-drops either.

>>153399696
They're still problematic cards, and it's what helps them be so powerful in arena.
Also that's bullshit, Playful necromancer is one of the best evolve 4-drops. The fact that you can split the 2 damage, and the fact that she gets 5 attack instead of 4, are absolutely huge. She can easily go 4 for 1 at times which is insane card advantage.

>>153399475
No, you can get any character from any rarity, including banner ones.

What are the new upcoming games

>>153399696
In regular play, maybe, but in arena where you want to be going for those optimal attacks which leave you with low defense on your cards, she's one of the best. Same reason Barrage and Tempest are also very good.

I am so bored. I need a new game to play that has gameplay.

>>153400235
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bandainamcoent.saomd

No stamina, active and fast paced gameplay.

>>153400363

Neat. Dont know anything about this anime but looks fun.

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>Akkichan and Girl's Tribe supposed to be released this month supposedly
>not out yet still

They look like they might be fun. Who knows what's going on with Enride anymore

Interested in this Chain Chronicle clone by SEGFA

>Akichan (pre-reg up)
A new game releasing this year by Ambition called Akkichan, looks cute.
>website, twitter, PV
http://akkichan.jp/pc/index.php?
https://twitter.com/akkichan_PR
https://youtu.be/257YxO9bXBc

>Girl's Tribe (pre-reg up)
Girl's Tribe, which will be released this August (hopefully)
>website, twitter
https://girls-tribe.com

https://twitter.com/garu_tora

>Endride (pre-reg up)
For Endride, the last tweet they had about the game was in March and in April they retweeted something, it's now June and the site and twit is still silent, you can still pre-reg for this game.
>website, twitter
https://game.endride.jp/character/

https://twitter.com/endride_game


>Koshien Story (pre-reg up)

Baseball with cute manager girls

>website, twitter, vid

https://twitter.com/koshien_story

http://koshienstory.jp

https://youtu.be/E6G4XbVI9dw


World Chain (pre-reg up)

>website, twit, vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVCvxoe4uQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq0fAIyxN4s&feature=youtu.be
https://twitter.com/worldchain_PR
http://worldchain.sega-net.com

No rerolling required in Panzer Waltz right?

>>153399912
>They're still problematic cards, and it's what helps them be so powerful in arena.
Every class has "problematic cards", without even taking into account a certain Prince. Dragonguard and Conflagration are absolutely insane and Dragoncraft will regularly see multiple copies of them, unlike specific golds or even legendaries. Rune, Blood, and Haven all have great board clears and value cards at low rarities. I've done 5 wins with every class except Forest (which I haven't tried simply because I don't like playing the class) and they all have great tools in Arena.

Sword and Shadow are simply much more straightforward to draft for than classes like Rune, Haven, or Blood. That doesn't make them more potent, but it is going to skew the fuck out of people's opinions of them when Arena's less then a month old and everyone playing sucks at it.

5/4 is usually worse than 4/5 as an evolve 4-drop, because the best use of evolutions is trading down. You won't be able to trade up into any evolved 5-drop with only 5 attack anyway.

Being able to double ping is only ever relevant if you have multiple 1-health creatures, which there's a million ways to get bodied for anyway, people regularly draft Snipe and Barrage in addition to low-cost class AoEs in this format. Dragon Warriors, Floral Fencers, and Cudgel Priests are all much better. Necro is on par with Wardrobe Raider, only the competitively-unplayable Forest and Rune 4-drops are worse.

You say she can go 4-for-1 but she can also go 2-for-1 or 1-for-1 easier than the other evolve 4-drops.

>>153402052
I dunno man, I just think their problematic cards are much worse than other classes. Mordecai and Otohime especially. And I think the double ping is more relevant than you make it out to be; yes, you'd also get punished with a barrage or something but the fact that's it's in 1 card that has the potential to leave a body behind is very relevant. Yes it can be worse than the others, but the potential to get insane value can't be ignored, and as someone else pointed out it's even easier in arena where damaged minions are much more common.
It's also fantastic against sword, and you face a lot of swords, so hey.
And the thing about Sword and Shadow is they're also top dog in constructed too; the classes are just a bit too good, in my opinion, and could use some nerfs here and there. Apparently in japan midrange Sword is considered the single best deck right now. Though I do agree they're a bit overrated in power level, lord knows I've crushed many of them so far in my take-two days. It's just that they're already strong in general and when they get the good stuff they're nigh-unbeatable. Fighting a sword with a good curve, multiple floral fencers and an otohime to top it all off is pure hell in limited. You can win games just by dropping Mordecai because he's impossible to answer unless you're playing 2 classes, one of which isn't very consistent. That's not good design.

Wasn't there supposed to be an announcement today for SV? That'll probably only happen during Japan day hours right?

>>153401046
>Girl's Tribe, which will be released this August (hopefully)
Never ever. A little disappointed if that's all thats comin. World chain looks like a chain chronincle clone

>>153401628
None. With enough patience you can craft every tank in the game. The only rng was getting event tanks to drop during an event, but spamming corn for more fuel until they drop is a reliable strategy.

>>153402052
I main shadow but in all fairness, the only classes that can handle Mordecai are Havencraft and Runecraft since they can banish. So in Arena mode, where you almost never see those 2, Mordecai is almost a win condition.

>>153402936
Yeah, Otohime is fine in concept but she just offers far too much value so that playing her is almost always the best thing that the player can do in a given turn unless they are already clearly winning. In most cases, even legendary cards are supposed to be situational plays. When you have a card where it's almost always the best option, especially given the way that sword is set up, it's time for a nerf.

Mordecai suffers the same problem as Satan - the player is supposed to pay on their current turn for getting large amount of value in the future, but most of the time, playing Mordecai on turn 8 isn't much worse than any other options so the player doesn't really lose anything.

>>153402936
Other classes get pings that Shadow doesn't have access to like Flame Lizard, Glint Dragon, Magic Missile, Elf Child, and technically most splitting units. Good luck actually having anything survive with 1 health against Dragoncraft, even before turn 4.

>And the thing about Sword and Shadow is they're also top dog in constructed too
>Though I do agree they're a bit overrated in power level
Well there you go.

>Fighting a sword with a good curve, multiple floral fencers and an otohime to top it all off is pure hell in limited.
Fighting contructed-tier decks in arena is hard, more news at 11.

>You can win games just by dropping Mordecai because he's impossible to answer
He's strong but again, he'll appear in like 1 out of 4 Shadow drafts and he's 1 out of 40 cards. 3 classes have direct answers to him (what is draconification, which is uncommon and thus will get stuck in your drafts together with a Dragon Warrior or something very often) and every class has the ability to ward/heal and hit face. He's a powerful card that can even cheese some games but he can't carry a draft. When people get over their phobia of playing the more control-based classes in Arena he'll also become a lot worse.

Overall this really isn't a matter I'm that invested in, if Cygames decides lategame one-card win conditions aren't good for Arena I wouldn't be that bothered by it. If the next set releases even more for other classes I also wouldn't be bothered for it, as long as there's some kind of window of play like there is with Satan and Mordecai. I just don't like that I'm seeing what seem to be purely opinionated arguments encouraging kneejerk card balancing. Even when Kripp rails on Hearthstone's arena system, which is unbalanced to the point of it being considered common knowledge, he actually brings up stats like the rate of Mage he encounters, his winrate going first/second, his winrate average per class, etc.

>>153405283
Otohime is literally just overpowered.
She's 6 mana for 7/12 stats most of the time spread across 5 bodies, that aren't even fucking 1/1s like they should be, in the class based around buffing small minions. Even if she only shat out two guys all the time she'd be great. The only answer to her is a board clear and if you're wasting a valuable board clear on one card then that is a huge victory for the swordcraft player.

>>153405425
>Purely opinionated arguments encouraging kneejerk card balancing
Fucking please everyone knows cards like Mordecai and Otohime are stupid cards. This has been known far before limited was even introduced. They're just even worse there.

>>153406146
Cannot believe how anyone that tested the game thought Otohime is okay as it is, especially considering all of the other "split" cards (Noble/Oathless/Courageous) are appropriately costed at 1 per 2 stats.

It's mind-boggling.

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Well, I rerolled once and luckily started with 4* Lisbeth. Was expecting crap from my first 250, but got damn lucky instead.

Also it seems to summon the highest rarity units in the scouting animation first.

>>153406625
Don't forget the best part:
You can run 3 copies of her!! Nice!

>>153406548
Forgive me for not taking your opinion seriously after watching, as someone who has played since release, the "totally broken stupid cards" you fags complain about change every 2 weeks. What happened to Satan? What happaned to Dimension Shift? What happened to Forte? What happened to Purgatory?

As far as I've seen "everyone" just means "the lowest common denominator" which also means "fucking idiots".

>>153407213
Of course people do a lot of whining but at the very least Otohime is actually just broken dude.
>>153406146
Same with Mordecai, who if you're not about to win and not playing one of 2 classes (let's be honest draconification is not a good answer and no one plays that card) guarantees you win with no effort. Yes people change their opinions, and a lot of the stuff they complain about aren't actually overpowered but just not fun to play against like Dimension Shift and Path, but once again, complaints about these two have been going on forever. Because they are actually overpowered.
Unless you think a 6 mana 7/12 that refills your entire board in Sword is balanced?

>>153407615
>yes they're idiots but my opinion is special because I'm right!
lol

>>153407213
The totally broken stupid cards are "I keep losing to this card". "This card completely counters my deck" and the "I don't know how to counter this card".

That's why they change so much. The people complaining about the previous cards probably adapted, found a way to counter them or quit while the ones that didn't continue the cycle of bitching.

>>153407742
So no argument. Because they are actually stupid op cards.
Glad you finally saw the light and agreed. I was a bit worried you thought, once again, that 7/12 worth of stats on play for 6 mana spread across the whole board with no evolve required in the buff class was actually fair.

>>153401046
>Girl's Tribe, which will be released this August (hopefully)

You haven't been paying attention. It's been delayed. The next update on the status of the game will be in November. Which means there is a high chance it will be release next year...

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>>153406548
>Nobody disagrees with me. Anyone who doesn't take my opinion as fact literally doesn't exist.
Gee, I wonder who could be behind this post?

>>153407887
There's already plenty of unaddressed arguments in this thread. Feel free to look over them while you learn to git gud.

>>153408331
Found the Swordcraft player

>2016
>Still thinking Otomeme is OP

So you guys are saying that as soon as Sword gets board cleared on turns 4-6, they should automatically lose the game?

>>153408596
You spend the entire fucking game removing those sword shit minions and then they just get a full board after that, how is it fair

At this point i want all cygames games to have their own general and let this general die.

/cgg/ when

>>153408596
>Guys
>Plural

>>153407871
That's also why it's always the win conditions with these people. They're too used to a certain game where actual win conditions don't exist and you can always drag the game out as long as you have HP and removal.

>>153408596
No, but they shouldn't be able to instantly refill it completely with one card. And they don't even immediately lose the game because they can rebuild with other cards.
Really it's just a numbers thing. She gets insane stats for her mana cost with no effort required. Compare her to something like Queen Vampire, which is a 4/4 that summons 2 1/1s. 6/6 for 6 mana. Yes they have ward, which is very useful, but statwise she's par for the course. Otohime just provides insane value for her mana cost to the point of absurdity and she synergizes incredibly well with Swords whole plain. She's actually just overpowered compared to the rest of the cards in the game.

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>>153408810

>>153408975
Please dont reply to it, just ignore the retarded shitposter

>>153404176
Was gameplay ever shown? No clue if that game is something even worth waiting for

>Still no mobage where you play as a loli vampire and lure victims into your ghost mansion to torture and eat

When I win the powerball I will hire a dev team and make this happen.

>>153409289
If you win the powerball why don't you just buy a vampire loli of your own?

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>>153408775
So you want sword to automatically lose as soon as revelations is played. Good to know you aren't a game designer.

>And they don't even immediately lose the game because they can rebuild with other cards.
Like what? Dropping two 2/2's? Dropping a 3/3's and 2 1/1's? That shit just gets cleared instantly the next turn by any competent player; don't make me laugh.

>Compare her to something like Queen Vampire,
If we want to start comparing value cards, then let's start by deleting half of the golds from Blood since they are blatantly OP and problematic to the health of the game like Erin, Temptress, and Revelations.

Can we not do this thing where we compare cards in a vacuum?vacuum

>>153409392
Also meant for this salty loser >>153408917

>>153408596
Okay then, let's reverse this.
Someone explain to me how Otohime is fair. People have brought up arguments why she isn't fair, but I've never heard any good argument about how she's balanced. People just insult anyone who says she's overpowered.

>>153409557
Maybe you'll learn why after you get out of C rank

>>153407213
I'm still here

ban Dimension Shift

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>tfw you draw your removals just right

>>153409015
The same could be said about those retards arguing about balance in a stupid card game.

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>>153406656
Sinon like always has considerable buttcrack.

Also, the gun system is rather hard to get the hang of. That combined with the fact most enemies seem programmed to rush you makes it feel very iffy.

>>153409557
>Someone explain to me how Otohime is fair.
I just did.
Sword has no way to recover board after a clear. The next best way is Floral Fencer, but you need an evo point for that and I don't have to explain to you why that's not always available.

>>153409392
>So you want sword to automatically lose as soon as revelations is played.
Zoo decks are generally supposed to lose when they get their board cleared and run out of cards, yes. That is the idea. Because if they could just completely rebuild after a board wipe with minimal effort, they'd be the best deck in the game.
Oh wait...

>>153409834
>Sword has no way to recover after a board clear
Except all their other strong midrange minions and low cost cards that summon multiple minions?? And that still doesn't even account for her absurd stats overall.
Not an actual argument buddy. I don't think you actually know much about game design.

>>153409843
>>153409998
Really, try playing a different deck or play something else because this game isn't for you.

I play Sword/Shadow/Blood and I've never had issues with any of the sword legends. If anything, the things that end cockblocking the most are stuff like frontguard general, charlotte or a well timed sage commander/windgod.

>>153406656
>>153409748
Damn, i'm jelly. Still in reroll hell for her. Haven't seen a 4* at all

>>153410034
So you STILL have no counter-argument.
>I play Sword/Shadow/Blood
>The two most overpowered classes and the one with some of the best board clears in the game
Of course, of course.

>>153408917
High stat value and lots of dudes is Sword's main gimmick. Fencer is a 3/3 for 3 with partial charge, the 3 mana token guy is a 2/4 (and shit), Floral Fencer is statistically the biggest evolve in the game, Frontguard General is a 7/9 taunt for 7.

Otohime is big but she also requires you have no board as Swordcraft, the class that cannot win without board, and does nothing on the turn she's played as the most tempo-based class in the game. Swordcraft has some very powerful amulets that they can't run because they would directly make Otohime worse. 1/2s are also awful units. If anything the strongest thing about Otohime is the fact she herself is 4 health, making the main body inconvenient to just AoE down for a lot of classes.

>>153409748

>Skill tree

Oh boy I am going to fuck this up. The google translate app is not recognizing the text well.

>>153410165
>>153405425 Here.

I'm still waiting for you to make an argument, because >>153406548 very clearly is not one.

>>153410165
Everyone has great board clears and removal except sword. I cant even think of a deck that would have issues with removal because even my aggro sword decks with literally no removal spells can trade with otohime.

You just REALLY suck at the game and somehow think crying and shitting the thread will make things better or convince people that its the game and not you.

>>153410375
None of that answers why Sea Queen Otohime is balanced???

>>153399920
Are you sure it's not fixed to 3* only ?

I haven't even gotten a single 2*, so I don't know if they got the full 2-4* roster in there.

Are you sure it's not after the first 25 gems post tutorial ?

>>153410183
But all those require certain things to get their full value, except the token guy but he's just got one extra health, big deal. Frontguard is just one body until he dies so if he's banished or bounced you don't get the full value, floral fencer needs to evolve, the buff cards need bodies on board or else they're actually weak.
And yes, the problem is her body. Ideally if sword had a card that completely filled their board it would just fill it with 1/2s. They still get a bunch of bodies but they don't also get a good minion in her own right. Like Sea Queen Otohime is a 4 drop stat-wise, and then she summons two ascetic knights? Which are 3 drops? So 10 mana worth of stats in a single 6 mana card with no extra work required at full value? Okay sure, sounds fair to me. Even if she only summoned two 1/2s you'd get 7 mana worth of stats in a 6 mana card.
I agree that Sword does need a way to come back, but Otohime is just straight up too much. And yeah you only play her when your board is gone, but hey, if your board isn't gone you don't need to play her. So that's irrelevant.

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>>153410676
Yes. I got my 4* Yuuki from the tutorial roll.

>>153410507
Yes and? You also claimed Mordecai was unbalanced, then when refuted completely disregarded the argument and continued to making more empty claims.

Why should anyone take your claims about Otohime seriously when you can't even defend your claims about Mordecai?

>>153410993
Mordecai is definitely just whining, I'll admit.
But Otohime is actually just overpowered. No one has had a good retort. Yes, sword needs a way to come back, but 10 mana worth of stats in a 6 mana card without even needing to evolve is not balanced by any stretch of the imagination.

>>153410993
Please just stop replying to that retard. Its clear that he's just whining and crying about not knowing to play a card game and its painful to read his constant bitching about literally nothing.

One day he'll learn what removal means and maybe he'll get better at the game. He wont.

>>153409557
Well, for the first part, she's a legendary, she's supposed to be a major gamechanger which she very much is. She however is a reversal card, only good when Sword has no board which is their absolute worst state.

While the 7/12 on 5 bodies seems impressive, 2 defense means nothing to nearly every ward in the game. High defense only has value since it allows a unit to trade more than once and by turn 6, any ward coming up will likely kill any bodyguards used to trade.

In the end, even if lacking a board clear which deals with Otohime perfectly, taking out Otohime and 1-3 bodyguards still removes a lot of the threat even if the Sage Commander next turn. If you have no way to attack their board or ward against it then you probably just suck. If the opponent had already pressured to low HP by turn 6, then the Sword had good luck that round and will probably win. Otohime is merely a clincher in that situation.

In this end, there's no guarantee to winning any match and Otohime I rarely find comes close to such a guarantee. Don't blame Otohime for losses that you were already on the way to. Sometimes Sword gets a perfect curve while other decks don't, however that is a strength it depends on as an archetype. Their deckbuilding and victories are more reliant on that consistency. In exchange they have one of the worst lategames in the game.

Mordecai is guaranteed loss to them if allowed to value trade while Death's Breath lets shadow get to him. Purgatory control near ruins sword with no possible response if they get going. Sword if not primed to kill by turn 10 is stopped dead by Satan and especially Guardian Sun Satan. Bloodcraft with good use of vengeance and drain recovers all the damage Sword does.

Otohime is just strong, she's a bunch of value, but that's all she is. For which there are plenty of counters to. I have not seen a game where Otohime saved the Sword player when the opponent still had 20 HP..

Is team composition more important than subs in bghs?

>>153410946
>But all those require certain things to get their full value
Otohime doesn't?

>Otohime is a 4 drop stat-wise, and then she summons two ascetic knights?
Otohime is a bad 4-drop. Ascetic Knight is a bad 3-drop that's actually just 2 bad 1-drops.

So in total Otohime is a bad 4-drop and 4 bad 1-drops, a total of 8 mana worth of bad cards or 7 mana worth of good cards, she's a class legendary that's 1 mana better than average on the condition that she's played on an empty board and usually takes the entire turn no matter the mana available (because you can't drop buffer minions on a full board even if you have the mana).

In terms of mana value she's really not that great for a higher-cost legendary, especially not since Sword naturally pays less for stats compared to most other classes.

>>153412051
Team Composition is completely and absolutely unimportant until you start dealing with high-end event content(tests, that recent basement descent thing) and hard endgame.

A level 50 with 3 level 50 subs and a decent weapon will be able to deal with 80% of the game's content.

A great weapon, great skills, and limit breaking to level 70 will probably be able to deal with 90% to 95%.

>>153411237
>4 1/2s and a 3/4 all vanilla
>10 mana worth of stats
You're a fucking idiot.

>>153411237
Sword usually plays her from an empty board, now why would their board be empty in the first place?

Your opponent dropped an aoe board clear, this is the best case since you baited out removal and can fill your board right back up. You save her for moments like this.

Your opponent cleared out your board with their own guys, in which case you need to evolve or your board gets picked apart and your opponent has the rest of their mana to stabilize via a taunt or removal.

Not to mention the other crafts have AoEs that negate her, Revelation from Blood, Conflagration from Dragon, Themis from Haven, the Foul tempest from Shadow which leaves them with mana to spare due to costing so little, and fire chain from Rune.

>>153411237
You're literally doing nothing but shitting opinions into this thread. What you consider a "good retort" is also nothing but an opinion. You don't know how to have a serious discussion.

>>153412350
Otohime can also fuck a sword player because it fills their board. Its really fun when you manage to use Otohime against them.

If they have a full board then that means they cant drop more followers. If they cant drop more followers then that means they cant use windgod/sage commander.

And if they cant buff and quickly lethal me, I'm going to be shoving this dick down their throats in the late game just because I can.

>>153412051
If you need to try-hard yes. Casually, no, you just stack relevant event cards for point bonus if you're grinding event, or put your favorite attacks and high stat cards on a favorite student if you're just soloing main story stuff. You should try to solo if it's 300 or lower difficulty, for solo lesson gems, but if you can't there's no issue with that either.

There's different friendship skills you need for try-hardery. For the descends, I stacked +%SP on combo so I'd always regen a bit every level. If you wanted to make full use of an HP-based active, you'd need HP girl link and HP boosting friendship skills. For tests, combo reduction and damage is important. Invades benefit from friendship skills that activate under 60seconds.

>>153412000
>>153412190
>Actual arguments instead of just GIT GUD U SUK HOW DARE YOU NOT ALWAYS HAVE A BOARD CLEAR FOR HER FUCKING C RANK FAGGOT
Thanks anons, that's all I wanted. Those are all good points. Though her design still bothers me, I have to admit she's not as OP as I've perceived her.
>>153412318
7/12 is 10 mana worth of stats judging purely by numbers. Perhaps if I wrote it as 9/10 it would make more sense? That'd be the vanilla statline for a 10 drop if there were ever a vanilla 10 drop.
Learn to count you dope.
Also before you say something like BUT SHE'S A LEGENDARY! that's still the baseline 10 mana worth of stats.

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>>153412685
You could have just, you know, not replied to him anon. Shitting up the thread goes both ways.
Maybe next time instead of being a massive faggot learn to not keep stupid arguments going?

>>153412051
Subs add something like 25% of their stats. So with a full set of leveled subs, that's about a 75% boost to all your stats.

Friend skills usually add about 10-15% damage, at best. So a pair of damage-boosting teammates is about 30% to just your damage, and nothing to everything else.

Generalizing very heavily here, since stats vary by card, and there's a bunch of different friend skills, and you may be using friend skill slots for stuff like autoreload.

But in general, if you can only do one, then you want to get your subs in place first.

>>153410676
I also gotten my 4* silica from tutorial roll before. The rates are horrible in this game, only gotten two 4* from 2 days of rerolling. So won't be surprising if you never gotten any from tutorial rolls before.

>>153413095
"just ignore them" is only an option in non-generals, where a thread will actually die. In generals you have to actively call out undesirables or you're going to have to put up with them and potentially their circlejerk forever.

>>153413291
Okay, but I hope you realize resorting to insults when you should just stop replying just makes things worse and derails thread quality even more. You're not very good at having discussions either.

>>153413521
Where did I insult him? I told the truth, that he didn't provide a single argument to the thread, only biased opinions, and that he can't expect to create a serious discussion by doing so.

>>153413275
Who was the other 4* you pulled. According to the banner it's 4% for 4*

>>153413954
Oh, that was another anon. Whatever.
The idea is if someone is being a stubborn little shit it doesn't matter what you say. You could go on and on for days and nothing would matter, you'd just prolong the stupid argument. You're not going to "call out undesirables" because this is an anonymous imageboard, any idiot could just come back the next day and complain about the same things if they were so inclined, pretending to be someone else. You end up doing just as much damage as the person who started the argument at that point.
Just don't reply if you're not getting anywhere. End of story.

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Not Sinon, but I'm fine with Leafa's Sugus.

>>153413640
If they add Mireille, I might consider rerolling for her and giving it another shot.

And then I'll remember why I quit, and quit again.

>>153413983
Rolled 4* Yuuki. 4% rates is obviously a big fat lie.
I just hope they will continue to be generous with gems since there is weapon gacha as well.

>>153414583
Eugeo when?

;_;

>>153414317
It does matter because there is more than one person in a thread. Arguments made in the thread aren't just for the person you're speaking to, they're for everyone that may read the thread and consider the opinions of those arguing. By discrediting a shitposter over and over, you give the people in that thread resistance to not only the arguments made, but the way they're made, so that they can't be as effective in the future.

For example, if I silently decided that you were full of shit and stopped posting, would this thread's readers be more or less likely to conclude that the "just don't reply" meme has legitimacy? The answer is obvious, and you also believe so, otherwise you would have simply decided "for the thread's sake" not to post and refrained from directing this off-topic argument at me in the first place.

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>>153415243
You know, if there weren't people like you around there would also be way less shitposters. You're literally just as bad as them.
Please just shut up already. Thank you.

>>153415612
>He says, while making a blatant shitpost.

Why don't you try taking your own advice for once?

>>153416513
I don't get it, what's wrong with game discussion?

>>153416850
I don't get it, why are you replying to the retard that always goes "NEW GENERAL PLZ???"

Could always, I don't know, do what the OP says and continue discussing stuff?

>>153416513
Thread is still almost dead even with the SW discussion, don't really see the point in it

>>153413640
Yeah i posted this in the last thread tennis bro. Got a feeling that they're going to be beastly in terms of stats + insane ss because otherwise there is no way they'll be able to bait people to whale for speed types despite the buff that they got last update. Well regardless Mea is looking super cute so maybe I'll try my luck anyway. Maybe.

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What fuck was his problem?

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Around 17~ days in, managed to clear E4 just in time for maint.

It feels great to be able to clear the event with time to spare even though I started this month.

>>153416763
I know it got through greenlight but have Cygames even discussed releasing it on steam yet? The way it's phrased makes me think that no one informed them it was happening

>>153418737
Really there should probably just be a digital ccg general considering how many are coming out.

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>>153418127
>I have a little energy
>Burbaba is only at 70%
>I'll just roll it
>surely they won't all be Burbaba
Sakaguchi is a cruel mistress. I'd have actually considered spending a little on a few rolls, were it not for lucky trapfest.

>>153418737
No one cares. Literally no one cares about you not liking a game in this general.

Please just stop trying to push out games you don't like outside the general and push yourself out instead, we'll be a lot better off without idiots like you.

>>153419145
That seems like a good idea. Games like Duelyst and TESL currently have a good number of players and no place for discussion (maybe even more than /mbgg/), so it would be a big source of activity. Also I'm curious as to whether anyone still plays Chronicle.

>>153419471
I like Shadowverse. I want it to have its own general specifically so there can be a "shadowverse general" for people viewing the /vg/ catalog, that's a huge deal because a lot of people usually at least check things out when a new general pops up.

>Playing Blood in Take 2 because I'm a masochist
>ALL of my 5 fights are VS Sword
FUCKING STOP
I won 3/5, 2 lost because I had really shitty hands and started 2nd, which is a death sentence against aggro decks

>>153418127
1.Has been
2.Lost it ever since the failed TB magazine

>>153420613
But Blood is great in take 2.

When IS today's SV announcement anyway?

>>153420613
Blood is great in Take 2, at least from my experience. I've done the best with Blood and Rune earth rite

>>153421029
Just feels wrong playing without the OP shite like Revelation and that faggot vamp card that can face you for 5 damage+drain.
I just loaded up on drain cards and removal. Nothing beats evoing and getting 6 HP back.
The 2 times I managed to get my Dire card out, it immediately got Executed next turn. What are the odds.

>>153418296
I wonder if the water pistol is better than colt.

>>153421417
I would like to know that too but I'll probably end up leveling both to be sure. I hope there's some time before the next event but not too long, I dont want these devs to pull a panzer waltz with quarterly events.

>>153419471
not the other anon but I don't mind SV, even if I don't play it. However, whether a general is needed or not has never really been about how fast a thread moves, but rather the content and quality of the discussion. SV has basically reached that point where every discussion inevitably turns into shitposting and the same shit gets discussed over and over again. If you go look at the SV replies here, they are basically the same as those you'll find in the SS, GBF, and FGO generals, and the SV shitposters here don't even post cute girls. Why are they even here? Having their own general will give them or audience which is what they want anyway, and clean up /mbgg/ quite a bit.

As for /mbgg/ dying: don't worry. /mbgg/ is always dead, but once in a while it will rise and fulfill its destiny as the breeder of shitty generals, send them off into the shitty world of /vg/, and then return once again to a long, deep slumber until a new season beckons.

SV has enough feathers and a hard enough beak to fend for itself now. It's time to let go.

>>153422078
What's the matter with panzer waltz?
Water pistol have way higher accuracy buff but i like colt's buff grid.

>>153422253
>Shitposts about kicking (That game I don't like) deleted
>Post it again

Come on, get the hint. Even the site staff is telling you to shut up.

>>153422339
It seems that the Panzer Waltz staff have decided events for their game will be quarterly, meaning that they will be rare like Kancolle events with probably four or five events a year maximum.

There's people that like that and there's no problem with that because different people like different things but for me that's a incredibly slow pace for a game because events is the main appeal of a mobage and the main draw. A mobage might as well be dead if they have no events or go through a event drought so I would hate to see this game adopt the same event schedule since it would leave you with absolutely nothing to do for most of the time.

>>153422253
Every game that gets big doesn't need to move to its own general. Some degree of shitposting is inevitable because 4chan is populated by human beings. Even with people sometimes arguing over SV or any other game, it's still been pretty minimal in /mbgg/. Even today with some guy whining about Mordi and being ignorant about Otohime, it's still not been that big of a deal. SV isn't dominating the threads. People can and do talk freely about other games. As we are now we're also slow enough that the thread needs to be bumped from time to time to stave off premature demise, and just this last thread got archived before a new one had been made.

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You faggots could at least post cute girls while writing your dissertations.

>>153423475
Perfect cute breasts like that are the best

>>153422784
Oh yeah. I think chinkcolle have more events right?

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>>153423475
Can I post Mamurus?

>>153424006
I have no idea.

I only know about PW because some anon brought it up last thread. Maybe someone that plays Chinkcolle can tell us how events are handled in that game?

>>153422936
I'm less concerned about the game being too big for the general and more concerned about the lack of a proper general stunting the game's growth. Maybe it's still premature, but I've been seeing an increasing number of people trying to discuss the game in places like /hsg/ because of there being no proper general.

>>153424246
That'll still happen, the difference is if /svg/ exists, /hsg/ will go shitpost in it because people are stupid.

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>>153424246
It doesn't need a "proper' general just because /hsg/ people don't know how to type a word into the catalog search bar. SV is a card game, but it's a mobile game as well. /mbgg/ is a perfectly fine location for it.

I also don't see how a lack of a /vg/ thread is stunting the game's growth, but what the fuck do I know about viral marketing?

>>153424246
SV still need several expansions before getting it's own general. It's very limited right now.

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>>153424582
>By being in /mbgg/, Shadowverse is protected from the cancer that is the HS community
Thank you for protecting us friends

>>153421417
Maybe during night battles for squads without ARs, but it's overkill during daytime. Especially now that MGs can get +13 accuracy scopes.
The equipment patch kind of made it obsolete.

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>>153424246
This is as good as it gets for discussion.

Due to how the site works, slow threads have more room for civil discussion, getting actual useful advice and enjoy playing with other anons while big threads end up like the hearthstone general or the granblue fantasy general.
Maybe you'll find <50 ontopic useful posts with the rest being shitposts for the sake of shitposting.

There's also the fact that the game isn't big enough or popular enough to keep a general alive. If its not big enough to keep THIS thread alive along with several other games then its clearly not big enough to keep its own general alive. The only people that want to throw out games are the shitposters that want to throw out every new game that might have potential to stick around and people shitposting for the sake of shitposting.

So can we please put this topic to rest and enjoy our games in peace?

>>153418296
>>153425015
What's the 2nd equip slot for HG for? I have a bunch of blue bullets on the list but it's all greyed out.
Also, the scopes that adds some stats but decreases others are bad right?

>>153425015
You mean the ITI MARS thing? Is that actually really good or something?

I equipped it on my RF and she still missed a lot during night time.

>>153424090
PW events are so rare because the localisation teams receive updates from the chinks in bulk rather than instantly, and it takes them years to shittily translate it anyway.

Chinkcolle has about 4 main events a year and grand construction events in between, providing new ships that can be obtained through construction only. There are also general updates in-between with new ships and content.

>>153425963
I really want to play chinkcolle again, but they deleted my id and i don't feel like restarting.

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>>153423548
Too bad she was the indication of a dying game.

>>153424012
Of course. I wonder if they only publish artwork or if they have doujin too, since finding their stuff in games is getting harder.

>>153426180
That sucks, have you tried emailing them out of desperation or something? I think they have some understanding of English

In SAO MD, I'm getting an error P100087:20 right now.

Can't log in. Anyone else ?

Although I did a device transfer earlier. Does it expect me to clear data ?

>>153426251
I wonder how these artists that made arts for ded/dying game feels?

>>153426327
I'm personally getting a bunch of connection errors so I think their servers are just having problems right now.

>>153426371
If they got paid then they probably don't mind because its money in the bank for them.

>>153426371
Like they made some good money

>>153426302
I stopped playing around 4-5 months ago. Logged in for the new update and every server i tried to log into directed me to a new game / choosing your first destroyer thing.
I'm not exactly far into the game but don't want to restart again.

>>153426745
I'm sorry for your loss, anon.

I get how you feel. I find it hard to get into similar games because of how tedious simply starting up can be, and starting from the beginning again is shit.

>>153425552
I'm pretty sure there's just no ammo for hgs and smgs yet.

In Panzer Waltz, why do people put up shit defense teams? How does that benefit them?

>>153428425
tanks their rating so they can get easy matches when searching for clashes

>>153428425
Ask yourself how increasing one's rank is beneficial. It's not.
Why bother having to fight difficult targets for Silver if you can just suicide your rank away.

>>153424606
I'm just speaking as someone who is most used to the original /vg/ experience of a new game starting a general and people from the board checking it out and forming a community naturally. Maybe the board is too dense for that to happen anymore though.

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>Want to make a Blood deck for vampy
>Don't want to start vialing shit because the meta is probably going to change next month with the new card set

Soon

>>153429294
/vg/ already has more posts than /a/. Threads can't spring up to foster a community from nothing. There has to be an existing community to propagate a thread or it cannot sustain the flow of traffic from other threads all pushing each other towards oblivion..

>>153429386
Soon enough, I'm just hoping Shadow doesn't get nerfed via the new cards. Like I'm fine with the meta shifting, but as long as they're still at least Tier 2 I'm good.

>>153428656
>>153428782
Really? As I've gone up in rank the per-fight silver reward has more than doubled.

>>153429875
I don't care if they're nerfed as long as the cards are fun. The new evolve 5-drop that revives your biggest minion seems fun as hell.

Has anyone seen the Shadowverse twitter? It's really sad.
>Who would win in a fight? Erica or Eris?
>2 replies saying Erica, 6 likes
>Which card would you rather have? Rabbit Necro or Apprentice Necro
>2 replies saying Rabbit, 2 likes
>Isabelle v Rowen, who would win?
>0 (Zero) replies, 1 like
It's like he's saying rhetorical questions to himself

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>>153431656
For comparison, the american twitter has 1k followers while the japanese has just under 190k

>want to try out an arch priestess laelia deck
>it will take about 10k vials
>think about the other cards I need to make
>Missing 3 cerbs
>Missing 3 ancient elfs
>One otohime but no other sword legends but tsubaki
>Only dragon legend is a single fafnir
>tfw I have a page worth of legendaries but it's not enough
Maybe I should give up.

>>153432254
The problem is that you can run more than one legendary. In more than one way. You could argue a lot of them are too powerful to run multiple of and also it means to be effective you need 3. Like that huge argument over Otohime earlier would probably be less of an issue if you could only run one.

>Remember I haven't played shadowverse in a while
>Spend an Arena ticket to play take two
>Crash on the second match

Now I remember why I stopped playing

ward zombies are bullshit

>Just pulled my 6th (SIXTH) Lord Atomy

Fuck off you useless skeleton stop wasting my lego pulls. Anyone else getting ridiculous levels of duplicates? I must have pulled 7 or 8 Arthurian Lights by now.

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S-should I be happy?

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>>153435015
>No cute girls.
I don't know, you tell me. Are you happy?

>>153435015
>Two (2) guys

>>153435015
Time to reroll, anon.

>>153435015
>series with scantily clad girls
>happy with 2 dudes
either you reroll or you're a homo.

>>153427427
btw, what was the earlier maintenance for? are we in the increased equip chance time yet?

>>153435576
That ended already.

>>153435015
Game wise it's better to have as many 4* as possible since they are hard to come by.

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>not even a 2-3* Anko to get my hopes up during the run in

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>Springfield's voice

SS tier cutie

I'm pretty sure it's nigh-impossible to get 5 wins in take 2, because either of these things will happen:
>You get a really shit hand even after mulliganing, and you start 2nd vs Sword. You continue to draw high cost cards even though your deck is 2/5 of them.
>The opponent has the perfect hand that counters your every move.
>Despite you playing your best, the opponent topdecks the very card he needs to counter you, every time.
>You don't get to choose a Legendary from your cards picks.
>A combination of the situations above.
Of course, you could argue that the same could happen to your opponent, but that's irrelevant. I'm talking about the possibility of winning 5 times in a row.

>>153436671
Is just want to lie in her lap while she whispers into my ear.

>>153431656
I didn't even know there was an english Shadowverse twitter.

>>153436796
My biggest problem in arena is not getting to draft good cards. I lose to specific really good cards all the time and never see them in the draft. I've only played maybe 10 runs so far but it still seems extremely lopsided.

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>Rainbow run in
>3-stars galore
>One Nozomi
pls.
At least my Blade Cannons continue to get stronger.

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Is this official art? it seems pretty lewd.

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ded games.

>>153437015
>>153437015
Yeah, like playing Dragon and not getting a single Oracle/that dragon chick/dragon warrior.
Or playing Sword and not getting a single Floral Fencer.
Most of the time the card choices are between "good card" and "really shit card you would never play", and then proceeds to stuff the "shit cards you will never play" into your first 10 card draws all the time.

>>153437402
that girl on top looks foxy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLuNgYoZi5I

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LAST HALF OF THE EVENT STARTS RIGHT AFTER GUARANTEES LEAVE.
Which means it is highly likely they will add girls. If you're hesitant, you can wait until the last day when we're likely to get leaks just to make sure. Will confirm based on the event story but that will be later.

Anyway, there's a Slot Machine to get from co-op with a new mission to do there to upgrade it, which will help with event points. Looks like it has water spout enemies. Looks like a pretty standard event so we'll have to wait to see why it's so long.

>maintenance in the middle of prime game time
One of the few disadvantages of playing a primarily Japanese game I guess.

>>153438006
I just want 4* Anko.

>>153438006
Giving this a miss. Casino girls are not lewd enough to tempt me to roll.

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HAIL SATAN

Forgot to mention, 563 gems were given last month from events. This assumes you did all 11 days of invades for the festival and at least did the separated floors of the descend.

>>153438227
Yeah, who I want is in this set, but I'm likely to want to do a 10+1 on the next set anyway since I'll have a few favorites in there too. Just really curious why the event is so long unless they think the end month event won't need much time, like for last loli squad idols or flora additions.

>>153438410
>two leggos i already have
Oh well, i guess its free.

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Not bad though I was hoping for Anko or Nozomi

>>153438537
I've had horrible luck with neutral pulls so this is pretty sweet, now I can slap them into all my poverty decks.

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>>153438410
>Hey guys we heard that you think Satan meta is cancer
>So we're going to send everyone a free satan

>Anko
Not my favorite but she's probably the best one of this set
>Anko, Anko, Kurumi
Anko pls go.

>>153438006
I guess I'll just roll this one once and wait for the other half.

>>153438856
thats fair. I am just wondering if I should run the 2nd gabriel in my haven deck instead of my 2nd curate or my Jeanne De Arc

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I know we don't like Subaru but this is going too far.

>>153438928
>ankofags always complaining how they don't get any ankos
>someone who's not an ankofag pulls her three times
Desire sensor is such a cruel mistress

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>>153439102
Don't worry, Miki knows what she's doing.

tfw you pull no shadowverse legendaries in the last 35 arena packs but at least you have 4500 gold and the dust you get from silvers is starting to pile up. At this point imma just keep going until I get enough for a top tier deck from just recycling excess bronzes and silvers. my 18 kaliedoscopic glows and 14 angelic barrages will pave my path to the future.

>>153438410

Guess I'll have 3 satans now. Does anyone use more than 1?

>>153439686
Satan Haven runs two.

>>153439686
Dragon can probably run 3 since they want to get him out ASAP and the extras will just turn into satan cards if they're still in the deck

>>153440391
oh it was kamomome

>>153438410
>prince of darkness

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>>153410349
There's no rocket science in it anon. It's either 'increase Attack, defense, critical or hp', 'skill level+1' or 'unlock a new pasive skill'. The only non-linear thing in it is that you choose what stat you want to focus on when limit breaking the character(again: attack, defense, hp and critical).

Everyone was asking how to bind your account:
Go to menu->'other' settings where it gives you this long list of options, choose 引き継ぎ. You'll see a screen with two buttons, white and blue. White one is an 'explanation of what can transfer' and blue is 'issue transfer code'. It will give you a code and you'll have to put a password for it. Not sure if it has any expiration date.

>>153440391
This game is just impossible to play with the shitty tickets and gems.

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My first 5-0

I wanted to use this ticket to play as Vampy because I have no cards for blood but Luna bringing a 5-0 home is fine too.

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FoG weapons up, too.

They all seem pretty good, various action skill/damage buffs.

Sion's sword has the regen she was missing, and recovers SP.
Harvey's lance has instant death avoidance.

>>153440947
Will they throw me in moe jail if I commit a crime?

>>153441021
Have they said anything about have multi quest for flower of grace? It's a pain to farm those mats.

Are step gacha the most evil gacha?

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What other big drops should I be running in Haven Satan? Right now running x2 curate, 1 Gabriel, 1x Jeanne De Arc, 1 Lucifer and 2x Satan thanks to the crate. I also have another Gabriel, but its not in there.

>>153441145
They tweeted about it, it's coming today.

>Cygames gives me a third Lucifer
>Cygames is giving me a third Satan and fourth Gabriel
Why cant they give legends I dont have

>>153441351
Those are fine for late drops, another lucifer would be good but before looking at those make sure your removal is up to par with 3x themis, some executes and acolyte's lights.

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Well I'm sad now.

>>153441390
Everybody can use a neutral legendary to some degree, while not everybody can necessarily use a class-specific one. Four Gabriel here as well. Just won't leave me alone.

>>153441705
I have 3 themis's and 2 banishing lights. Throw in one execute?

>>153441282
Depends on the game. They are either fucking amazing or scummy as shit with almost no in between.

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>Mea and Kamome out
>Decided to try again after not getting Charlotte for two days
>Get her immediately
Now I can finally start

>>153441721
>sad
That could have been subaru

>>153442565
10 roll? How do you even get enough to roll that much...

>>153442654
>first roll a single subaru
tell me about it

>>153442654
I actually like Subaru.

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>>153438006
So, just went through the stories of the event.
>Director-chan asked the Hoshimori class to go in her place as a delegate to the moon
>Haruka and Asuha specifically decline due to family obligations. Renge pouts about having no reason to go since Asuha is not going.
>Nobody else declines but the girls in this set all confirm.
So, Haruka and Asuha are definitely out for second set.
>They get to their hotel, delegate meeting is tomorrow, so the manager rabbit-man asks them to put on these bunny suits and come watch a magic show before spending the night
>During the magic show, Michelle, Urara, Kokomi, and Kurumi are invited on stage to participate in a trick - they disappear
>They don't come back and when the others go investigate, they don't find them.
>They eventually run into another rabbit man who tells them that the manager abducted those 4, to convert their body and mind to bunnies, to sell them to potential buyers
>Why do that? Because bunnies die if they're lonely, so they will become emotionally attached to the buyer.
They're going to become actual bunnies, like the red things, in case your mind was in the gutter somewhere thinking about other results
Naturally, Mimi and Kurumi are excited about the idea but Kokomi and Urara protest.

Then that's it. Dunno what they could have planned for the last half to incorporate the rest of the class or why it's so long, but if you're waifu is in that half, you'll want to wait for confirmation.

I have 100% crash rate in games on my phone after the shadowverse maintenance just now I had so much hope the constant crashing might stop but it seems like everything is still fucked, if anything it got worse

>Draft a dragoncraft arena with zero ramp and average card quality
>Still go 4 wins

I just don't get how a class can be this good, the cards are already amazing and they get ramp to boot. Can't wait to craft some Fortes for constructed.

>>153443713
I hate how Forte is a instant 5-7 damage (Or worse with Urd) to my face if the enemy has her on his hand. No idea how people can say dragon is weak when stuff like this happens.

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Also got Kokomi and mumi

>>153443913
>Rhino
>Phantom Howl
>Temptress Vampire

>>153444097
Rhino takes a lot of setup.
Phantom howl requires even more setup because you need a empty board and the shadows to get max damage out of it.
Always thought temptress vampire was bullshit but she only comes out on turn 9 at least.

And for the record, I'm not going to whine and cry that she's overpowered or ask how is forte fair and balanced like some people. I just really hate how dragon gets easy ramp, tons of wards AND fat storm units while other classes struggle to stay relevant. Fuck cygames and fuck their balance team.

>>153443913
Literally who says dragon is weak?

Another hour or so shadowverse stream happened, nice to see some game get exposure from here~

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>>153438410
Now everyone can run satan

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Shit.

>>153444382
Its okay, Kirito should be able to solo that like he did in the anime.

Just won an arena game without using any of my 3 evos because Wyrm Spire is broken (assuming you don't get smorced). He even had 2 turns of Satan draws. Still a landslide.

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I'm grateful for more gems.

>Free Satan AND Gabriel
Based Cygames.
Why do I suspect that they are only giving these huge freebies out because no one is playing the game?

>>153443409
Wtf that's pretty fucked up, sounds like the plot for asanagis next doujin.

>>153443409
I need doujins of this.

>>153445028
They gave those out on the same day that Kripp's sponsorship ended and he released the youtube video, so it's probably just a publicity stunt to draw more Hearthstone players. Legendaries aren't that hard to get in this game anyway and neutrals are convenient since they can be used in any class by newbies.

>>153445332
Satan is meta too

Just stick one or three in any deck and you're good to go

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>>153441721

>>153445028
the freebie gabriel completed my playset.

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New player here, I want to play Swordcraft and I was trying to get a roll with Aurelia(s) and Otohime(s).
Should I keep this one?

Only one Aurelia, no Otohime and the 2 skeleton and 2 pluto are basically dust because of how they are right?

>>153445332
It's also in tandem with a new commercial in Japan.

>>153445745
eh, if you really want to do sword, you could do better.

How many packs do you get when rolling right now?

>>153445816
21 and 3 free legends.
22 if you do 1 quest battle but I often don't do it to reroll faster.

>about to win match in ranked
>get call from work
>get back to game
>YOU LOSE
who the hell thought this was good idea in fucking mobile game

>>153446295
You can't just not have a time limit. Next time let it go to voicemail and call back, pretending you were on the john.

>>153446295
Meanwhile in a parallel universe
>about to win match in ranked
>get call from work
>get back to game
>my opponent went AFK hoping I disconnect or leave
who the hell thought this was a good idea fucking cygames I swear to god

>>153446549
in situations like this and disconnects, it would be better to count match as a draw. You don't lose points and opponent doesn't get free win

>>153445745
I'd keep that account on the side in case atomeme decks become meta with the new cards.

>>153445957
Holy fucking shit, and I thought the 15 pack reroll days were nice. Newbies have it so easy.

How many battle worthy squad do you need in Girls Frontline? 2? 3?

>>153438410
Another deceiver to vial

>>153446912
That will never not get exploited.

How is the new co-op in shironeko? Anything annoying gimmick this time like they usually do?

Also, what have others been doing for mat farming for solo? I'm wondering if going in, pillaging one specific spot for what I need and getting out would be faster than clearing a map.

>get to Heathcliff fight
>he only has 2 parriable attacks
>he constantly rushes at you with a shield up while constantly spamming his unparriable combo and charge
I thought the Gleam Eyes fight was some bullshit, but I can't even cheese this guy with Sinon.

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2x Soul Dealer
1x Medusa
1x Alucard
1x Summon Bloodkin
2x Killer Devil
2x Night Horde
and 7 potential reach cards

Easily the dumbest deck I have yet to play in Take Two.

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Remember to never weapon roll

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So singles or 10 rolls which is better for SAO?

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Catching up on BGHS 2ch thread and someone noticed the bonus affection for bunny girl training ends on the 12th.

So clues are:
>Last half of the event starts on the 4th
>Bunny Outfit training bonus ends on the 12th
>Event and gacha leaves on the 20th
What does that tell us? Fuck if I know, these dates are all over the place.
General consensus so far seems to be that Kokomi, Anko, and Kurumi are the strongest of the set.

Also preview of current issue of Dengeki Gs Magazine, same issue as >>153367925
And no, there hasn't been a scan or digital of last months' school swimsuit spread.

3 new guns on GF?

>>153453014
Four, actually.
P99 is shit 3*, SVD is the new hotness, and MG4 is just bad MG5.
Super SASS will be daily bonus like Type 56, but she's shit anyway.

>Urara doesn't wear pantyhose in her card
>her Live3D sprite wears one
I feel cheated

Just opened an animated Skullfane. Is Haven not shit in constructed?

>>153453850
Satan Stall Haven is one of the most bullshit decks right now, but it makes extremely little use of amulets and doesn't bother with Skullfane due to it.

Skullfane will probably become far more useful when more amulets are released in the expansion, but currently amulet Haven is considered one of the weakest decks currently.

in GF, if i want to roll specifically for SMG 5* guns what combo should I roll?

>>153454450
4/4/1/1 maybe

>>153453850
Haven is good, and Skullfane is both a fun card and cool character even if he's not currently meta-tier.

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>All these shitters with American flag icons and meme names feeding me wins in arena

I suppose there are some benefits to a western release after all.

>>153454192
>had the pleasure of playing amulet haven in Draw Two
>went 1-4 because of shit draws and lol sword
Never again

>>153443409
Maybe the next half will be Phantom Thieves?

>>153455054

>tfw shitting on japanese with my austrian flag

>>153455241
I drafted an amulet haven that looked really good on paper. I think one game I drew well and one game average and I won those two, but of course I drew complete shit the other three games and just got zerged down.

>aggro metas Xd

>single 4*
>anko
I feel like I'm never going to get mumi again starting from onsen

>>153442694
Its the turorial roll from the game. Been trying to get Charlotte is or some waifu but Mea came a calling instead

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>>153455338
怪盗?
Got examples? I looked that up and got images of guys in caped tuxedo suits wearing top hats of various heights.
Also this princess from Uchihime.

Gettin real tired of these path to purgatory decks every single match I play.

>>153458480
Then end the match before hand

Also why is second turn so OP
First turn can't even compete

>>153439686
I run 2 in my Satan Dragon, dunno what I can do with my third either.

>>153438410
>They send everybody Lucifer
>Now he's in every game
>They send everybody Satan
>He's now going to be in every game
>They sent everyone Gabriel
Why? Who the fuck runs Gabriel?

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Whats the name of the game , anon? *_*

>>153459523
Midrange Sword does. It also makes sense to send everyone an angel to counterbalance the literal lord of evil.

>>153459523
It's a dead game what do you expect?

>>153457069
Yeah, those are basically it. I mean with Casinos, you got to have the opposite group, the phantom thieves. Basically you just need the mask and theme, though for guys it's usually a top hat and tuxedos. For girls it can be a bit more varied, though the obvious one is the literal cat burglar.

>>153459712
But he's only the prince not the lord.

>>153459667
>*_*
Go ask reddit.

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So the two did get a flora outfit after all. Shiho's design kinda weird in the chest area. Also I swear Shiho's Shihos look bigger than Kokomi's Kokomis eventhough they're supposed to be the same size.

Also I just realized there's a new live2d teary face Shiho.

>>153446549
Who doesn't pick up the phone just because they were in the john?

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Holy shit fuck you Miki

The hell is this shit, first time I get something like this

At least I got Kurumi before

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>>153458480
>Shitters here can never stop crying about Sword
>Meanwhile A and up is literally all Purg Forest and Purg Rune

End it.

>>153459818
If that's what they end up doing for the rest of the girls, then gems are going to be in very short supply.

>>153460619
If you don't take the phone with you like an animal.

>>153460709
>Rank A
>PtP Forest
Dank memes bro

>>153461183
I've seen them as early as C0, friendo.

>>153460709
Sword is a free win against path decks, try not sucking

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My forest deck is actually dicking sword decks pretty hard.

>>153461254
Yeah, and they disappear in B, PtP only works if the enemy doesn't know what you're up to

>>153461405
>PtP only works if the enemy doesn't know what you're up to
Spoken like a true D0.

>>153461405
I just fought against a PtP at B3 yesterday. It was a free win, sure, but that doesn't stop people from trying.

>>153461308
I don't play sword.

>>153461910
Fine, you'll see it at many levels, it'll just lose to everything except control blood craft

1st roll - Mumi, Kokomi, Kokomi
2nd roll - Kokomi, Anko

Damn it, Kokomi. This always seems to happen to me. I want to roll again, but it seems like gems are hard to come by these days.

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>>153462270
I just wanted Nozomi, and basically in 5 chances, I couldn't get her. Lame.

Is sion finally good with her motif? I don't know if it's worth trading in for her because she seemed pretty lackluster to me.

>>153462270
>2 rolls
>3 girls and 2 dupe crystals
>oh woe is me
fuck off

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>>153462270
Give me mumi

Evolve meta when

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>>153443409
Please mumi, there are better ways to reach out to people

>>153462541
I forgot to mention that I only wanted Nozomi, and not getting one of your waifus when she's in a set is so depressing.

>2nd roll gives me nozomi and kurumi
I guess that's fine but I guess I should kill any hopes of getting my favourite student from now on. Completely out of gems

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>>153462483
It definitely helps, gives her the regen she was missing and more firepower. Plus some nice SP regen.

I still don't think I'd use her over Neons, but she beats my previous sword users pretty easily. Though I don't have Dean or Ekuru.

10%sp/3kills is a useful skill for anyone, so it'll probably still be decent for other sword types later on.

>>153463467
She might be really good if we get new enemies that are immune/absorb all elemental dmg, but outside of that I can't see much use for her.
At least she's very cute

>>153442565
Not rolling until i know their skills and stats

>>153462968
I keep reserve rocks just for that purpose, or rather I just haven't fully grinded out all the rocks I can get. I regret not getting Christmas Eve Asuha and kind of Movie Asuha. I assume that one at least will be back for her Birthday at least. Gotta save up enough for that, aiming for at least 2k rocks.