Heroes of the Storm General -- /hotsg/

First for Lunara a cute.

>>153299463
>pink goblin skin
>horrific evil yellow eyes
>unshaved legs
anon...

so uh
valarak amirite

I've won my last 18 games as Cho, AMA

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hots sure looked different back in the day

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>>153299663
lul

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All Li Li players are funfags edition!
>>153300421
What's the dank combo name of you and your buddy.

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>Nova is in 63.5% of QM games

When will people learn not to play this garbage character?

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>still no PTR

>>153300567
wait shit cho isn't chen
what the fuck how did i mess taht up

Who here is waiting for 10k Alarak?

>>153300546
Still think they made the right call to make her use her chitinous blades rather than purple psychic magic.

>>153300546
needs more Force Wave

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>>153302151

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i dunno guys
i think she's a little too strong

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>>153302892

>>153302892
how u get blue health bar

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>>153303093

>>153303107
mods

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>>153299276
Li Li players are wonderful and not at all furfags.

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>>153303291

http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=2398901'

Fucking how

>>153303580
then why are they playing lili

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>>153303890

>>153300786

I wish you could just blacklist all the low win rate meme heroes everyone is terrible with.

>nova
>murky
>abathur
>azmodan
>medivh
>chromie
>hammer
>gazlowe
>butcher
>vikings
>rexxar

Just fucking ban all of these.

>>153304341
Make them unable to be picked in Unranked Draft and both Ranked modes. There's never any reason to play them and they only shit up what could've been good games. Pros train in customs anyway, so it literally doesn't affect esports.

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>>153304287

>stay bronze /hotsg/


- reddit

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>>153304584

>>153304151
Can't believe I fell for this.

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>tfw still no patch notes

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>>153304151
>click link
>see this
>get confused
>mfw when i fell for it

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>>153304273
She's the best support in the game.
Cute. Fun.
Not for lewd.

>>153305981
anon fucked up the copy-paste

if you remove the apostrophe at the end it links to some random bronze player instead of liking to your own profile

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Everyone blamed the vikings. I don't think it was their fault.

I honestly don't know who to blame. Matchmaking, maybe? I don't feel particularly outplayed. Some poor calls were being made though.

>>153307520
you have vikings on your team and you are somehow 4 levels behind?
either your vikings had no idea what they were doing or the rest of your team had no idea how to play with vikings
or both

>>153307520
>>153307893
tbf the enemy team had two strong pushers and three heroes that can one-shot vikings. i guess the rest of his team fucked up the 4-man rotation so he got constantly pressured back in lanes. no idea how they managed to get only 2 kills vs only squishies and no healer.

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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

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the girl on the left looks familiar
who is she?

>>153308707
They splitsoaked, but it did seem rough. I mean 9k XP is more than all of us, but not by much, to be honest.

>>153308707
I mean, I was in that game too. I couldn't finish anyone off. The burst was real. I usually ended up alive after teamfights, because of the range, but I ended up feeding a lot more later. Ah well.

>>153309329
when they were splitsoaking the rest of you should have been pushing or ganking as 4

either you were somehow losing 4v3 fights or the enemy team was abandoning soak to fight you 4v4-5 in which case you should've had a huge xp lead

>>153309325
I'm not sure, but the banter between them was pretty funny. I don't know why but Thor talking about his kettlebells while wrecking with cho'gall was cracking me up

>>153309776
During laning, we were all in lanes, not roaming (which yeah, probably wasn't smart, bronzies here after all, I never roam to gank).

And after that, it was basically obj and obj. We were all dead during the downtime.

Ah well. I just had a fun Towers of Doom game, we are at 6, they are at three. We go for boss, all die except Aba, they steal boss, two bot altars spawn and Aba gets it before the rest.

I hope this patch brings Gul'dan buffs.

>>153312557
basically if you have a tlv in a lane there is no reason for other heroes to stay there and "lane"

the enemy team is forced to lane to get xp, but your vikings are doing that for you so you are free to go do other shit like push down buildings 4v1

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20243696/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-august-29-2016-8-29-2016

>>153312909
Hm. Fair. I knew splitsoaking was their strength, but I assumed that was only once objectives started popping.

But that makes sense.

>>153313195
>Sadism
You deal 100% bonus Ability damage versus enemy Heroes.

How is this a trait? Isn't that them just saying no trait and making all his abilities stronger?

>>153313340
lots of his talents affect the % bonus of Sadism though

>taking damage during Alarak charge will cancel it
Really fucking gay tbqh

>>153313340
Bait.

>Any Hero selected during Ranked or Unranked drafts will now count toward progression of any role or universe-specific Daily Quest.
This has been done so that players can still complete their Daily Quests while picking the best Heroes for their team composition, rather than Heroes who satisfy a quest requirement.

Sick. This is great. Fuck QM. I quit QM.

>falstad gets a unique bribe talent that permanently increases lightning rod damage by 5% each time he uses it

that's some weird shit

>>153313537
wut the fuck

So you can play a Starcraft Assassin and get Warcraft Support quests done? lel

butcher reworked

his trait is now "seasoned marksman, but with meat" and there's a level 1 talent to remove the damage cap on it

>Murky is now Unstoppable while casting Octo-Grab
Killing Murky now immediately cancels the Octo-Grab effect

Oh, hey, Murky was removed from the game, awesome. Thanks. Fuck you Blizzard, not even a comment on "Hey, we decided Murky was a bad idea?"

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Why
http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/MatchHistory?PlayerID=7644448

Oh thank god Chen got to keep Relentless. I was about to scream.

Stitches got fucked though.

Got my Legion Physical CE finally. Ready to ride around on that fucking Fel Stalker or whatever it's called after all this time.

Anyways... just like back in Overwatch for the physical CE people, it's a free Jaina again. They can't even give away a different hero than before.

6190-213071-83573-650806-5115

>dat Butcher rework

I like

>>153314501
they didn't even buff March

>>153314501
I really feel like this is prepping him for a rework. There's no reason to do that otherwise.

>>153313195
If split pushers won with bribe, ranged minion and catapult buff. Now they another win with the slower mount speed. GG

>>153314821
They try to bait lonely nerds to play their shitty moba with free codes of sluts

>>153313195
Greymane

Talents

Level 16
Relentless Predator (Trait)
Removed

>Developer Comments: We’re removing the majority of our old Relentless-like Talents from the game, because we found that it wasn’t clear to the enemy team what was happening. Reducing the duration on very short disabling effects to begin with was hard to notice, and typically felt like a bug when it did happen. In some cases, we’re replacing these Talents with Hero specific ones that more clearly convey what’s happening, while fitting the gameplay of the Hero.

>we don't like how greymane is played. he is supposed to be a melee focused hero. that's why we nerf is human form and remove the only talent that makes him being in worgen form actually not useless.
>also it made people too dumb to press tab and read enemy heros' talents feel bad

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Butcher will now be worthless until he lanes and gets 125 minions, in which case he becomes god king of the universe

I don't know how to feel about this

>>153313195
Interesting, Nova has access to bribe now. Not sure how this will affect her though. I'm not really sure that's what she needs. Then again being able to stealth around to a enemy camp, bribe it and leave does give her more utility than she currently has. It only competes with the decoy talents anyway, so overall it's not bad.


Butcher rework seems solid

Valla rework looks 50/50.

>>153316215
Nova's Bribe really stood out to me. Looking at the other Bribes, hers will be the only one that reduces spawn time by 50%, and hers is on her Holo Decoy tier so unless you're speficailly going for a damage Decoy build, you'll probably always want to take it. Unless it's a shit map like BoE.

>>153315964
The increased meat from Q talent might be useful for reaching there faster but you have to give up new-abbatoir for it.

>>153316215
>bribing an enemy camp so that they can get the next set 30 seconds later.

t, bronze

>>153319029
If your team is already taking your own camps, you as Nova of all heroes shouldn't waste your time with it. If you can capture an enemy camp as an objective is spawning before they get to it, it's 100% worth it as now you have a camp pushing and the enemy doesn't and they're forced to deal with it or lose a fort.

>hurr durr respawns faster
Yeah, 30 seconds later when the objective is done with and you're free to clear it

>>153319591
>optimistic shitter
t, bronze

>>153319807
the bribe is pretty much a free talent though: it's at the holo decoy tier

>>153320039
Let him meme himself out, anon.

>>153313195
>you will never again be matched with a johanna that doesnt take ktp
thank god

>>153320508
I am so happy about not having to take it.

>200 ping that feels like 1 sec lag
>chingchong who dcs after 2 min
>none of the ranged heroes in my team pings the stitches bot
i don't know why expected anything else

>>153321428
Same here. I hate forced talents.

They need to make Dehaka's movement speed with collected essence baseline asap.

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So any MLP quotes with Alarak on the PTR?

I need to know this so I can be furious at them for no reason.

>>153323814
His Q is called something Discord.

Haha.

>>153323814
>MLP quotes
why the fuck would Alarak have anything like that?

>>153324192
the voiceactor plays a badguy in mlp named Discord

>>153324192
Same VA as someone who did "Q" from Star Memes and his "Q" is Discord something-a-rather (>>153324083) who also VA someone in MLP called Discord (IIRC)

>>153324192
His Voice Actor is well known in the MLP community as playing a major villain. Or something like that.

Blizzard being memelords would have surely referenced that.

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>ages since greymane release
>huge valla rework
>S T I L L no indicator for how long her hatred duration

>>153324414
The clock thing is by far the most fun thing about Greymane for casual pistol play.

>>153324268
>>153324284
>>153324320
so many ponyfags in /hotsg/, the lot of you

but i am not surprised since Blizzard did some shit like this with Diablo III and that rainbow vomit secret level

as long as it's not obnoxious, whatever, near cameo and easter egg i guess

>>153323814
MLP? but Isn't that a show for little girls?

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>>153324543
>knowing a tiny bit of trivia for a character I like
>THAT MUST MEAN YOU'RE LE PONYFAG
No.

And honestly, the whole MLP/Star Memes relation is neat. But if there's more of it, such as his lines, then that will suck. I hope the name of his 'Q' ability is as far as it goes.

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>>153324836
Huh. Just realized that it's on his Q button.
That's funny.

>We have two Pandas before we have a single Troll

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>>153325172
Li Li and Chen were a packaged deal. Not a true comparison. I'd point more to having two similar heroes like Sylv + Tyrande. Or Malf + Lunara. Hell, even Tychus + Raynor would be a bit weird if they weren't packaged.

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>>153325172
Still waiting for that "Announcer" thing to happen.

I remember there being some files and quotes datamined showing custom announcers. One of them being Lorewalker Cho.

I want Panda narrating me while I play as Panda.

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MUH STATS new meta

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>>153325697
Wait, there's a rumor of announcer voices like what DotA has? Wouldn't that ruin the whole map related announcer deal they have going on though?
Here, take this version not made for ants.

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what the fuck

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Artanis, Morales, Li-Ming, Zeratul or Dehaka?

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>>153325860
http://www.heroesnexus.com/forums/heroes-general/general-discussion/129-announcer-voiceover-strings-and-audio

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>enter try mode to see butcher's visual rework
>see this retarded shit
As if butcher wasn't weak enough in the early game without meat stacks, now you need to collect 125 of them.

>>153325958
zeratul for fun
li ming for good
morales if youre a cuck
artanis if youre a fag
dekaka if you like losing

>>153324782
no its a show for pedophiles

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>>153326187
>morales if you're a cuck
>artanis if you're a fag
>dehaka if you like losing
Explain. Also Ultralisk and Hydralisk hero when?

>>153325958
dehaka because global mobility is fun

>>153313667
How fast could you stack that if you really worked I wonder.

>>153326385
laser drill hero when?

>>153326176
I mean, you don't exactly lose much by dying. So, maybe 125 isn't gonna be that bad. What level do you think?

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>>153326171
Oh man I'm digging that Abathur range of reverb. The normal announcer reminds me of a really chilled out Unreal Tournament announcer. Or something akin to that.

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>>153313667
>>153326589

>>153326595
But no serious explain.

>>153326171
>Two years old

So these were datamines during the early Alpha. Probably won't be seeing these

>>153327585
ultralisk is kerrigan's second ult that nobody uses
hydralisk is zag's E

QM butcher:
>5 enemy heroes and no allies in sight
>FUCK YEAH GOGOGO CHARGE TRACER
>uh, where'd she go?

>1 hero alone, friendly rehgar running at and slowing them
>better not charge, i died the last time i used that ability

>>153313195
>Bribe stacks while healing with BW
Fight time!!

>>153327859
No I mean why does Morales make you a cuck, why does Artanis make you a fag, and why does Dehaka make you lose?

>>153329085
morales makes you a cuck because she fucks your wife with her giant stim droned futa cock

artanis makes you a fag because he slowly and sensually penetrates you, anally, and halfway through you decide that you like it

dehaka makes you lose because he's bad

If I own Jania is Li-Ming worth buying?

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are there bullies in this game?

>>153330967
do you like winning instead of losing?

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>>153331174
yes

>>153331724
Isn't Jania good?

>>153333403
i dunno anon, i heard that she's kind of a slut

>>153334019
Anon, I heard you're kind of a slut.

>>153338360
:) I'm here to help

>>153331901
>rofl
>rofl
Every fucking time. What is he so impressed about?

>>153331901
rip burstdamage butcher

his Q crit talent was nerfed into the shitter with the rework

And with Legion's launch, HotS goes into hibernation.

>>153340228
for a few days until everybody completes all the end-game content

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>>153338421
Are you gonna help my dick?

>>153313195
>ktp removed
FUCK
>200% increased damage to mercs and minions
YES

I'm sick of getting into 5-40 stomps. What is the best way to afk a match? I need more defeats and lower my MMR. Does it still work with Leoric and Abathur?

>>153304341
t. bronze

>new week
>new rotation
>all free heroes leveled up for naught
>have to level 6 more heroes to 5 to play hl
This fucking sucks

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>>153347308
>not having all the heroes to 5
>not currently leveling them to 9

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Place your bets

>>153346253
>leave
>wait 8 minutos
>reconnect
I'm always back in time to collect my 20g

>>153347446
red

>>153347446
Red has nova, but blue has hammer.
I'd say red, unless they want to fight that johanna. Tyrael has that dive onto any of the 3 squishy targets, and chromie doesn't have a good target to hit there.

>>153315964
So he needs to be babysat like azmo.

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Some lower-tier koreans doing esports at each other:

twitch tv/ognglobal

Medivh just got banned and auriel got picked.

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>>153347704
>>153347965
We won by a landslide, didn't even lose a fort, hammer was our MVP

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>>153348407
And then butcher last pick.

Is "The Bigger they are" any good on Tychus?

>>153348486
God damn. What was the enemy team doing?

>>153348521
It's the only viable option other than In the Rhythm at 4. In the Rhythm is more common, though.

>png

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>>153348486
Talents for anyone wondering, hints at why the enemy team lost

>>153348627
They did mostly fine actually, their rexxars misha died to towers from time to time and nova was a shitter, but me zoning for hammer and li ming keeping the hell away from the thick of it and making some real good plays completely rekt them

>>153348775
>triple tap
absolute shitter detected

>>153347446
>>153348775
It was lost for them when they picked Rexmeme

>>153348407
>>153348495
This butcher is getting absolutely destroyed

>>153348696
what's wrong with png anon
do you have some kind of fetish for jpeg artifacts?

>>153348407
Winions just won that.

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>>153313195
>Monster Hunter
real subtle blizz

>>153349268
>artifacts on an image you upload once

>>153350696
it's a lossy compression format
it will always cause degradation of the image quality, it's just that the degradation is less noticeable in the types of images jpeg was designed for (i.e. photographs of real life, not computer images)

>>153350803
>this matters for an image you use to shitpost with

>>153326705
playing on PTR last evening, I pretty much had 125 by minute 10ish every time. it's actually easier than current vanilla Butcher because it doesn't put you back in a useless state whenever you die, and heroes drop 5 meat now so you can mitigate a death with 2 assists ez. it's a good rework.

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Ah, free week, how you plague me

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what do you guys think of the new map

>>153352038
I had an enemy team that got 2 entire banelings as their Zerg Rush just now. it's fun and good.

>tfw no slippery dryad gf

>>153351568
>cuckmatch

Why is Chromie so fun?

>>153354104
little
tight
gnome
hands

>>153354104
When you do hit a blind or leaded sand blast or dragon's breath, you feel awesome. Never mind the rest.

>>153354104
Small legs feel like you're running fast

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>tfw you get mvp on a stream
>4-man you got put with are streaming
>they all bully you cause it was shit anyway

Is it quicker to QP or unranked draft? (How about on the PTR?)

Alarak is a hella a lot of fun

>>153356405
Yeah I suppose, but how's his sustain?

For what I've seen in the streams looks a bit weak on that side

>>153356405
Looks cool but I have no idea how his fucking telekinesis works

>>153356650
His E gives him health back. He's no thrall, but catching two or three people in a lightning bolt can give you a fair chunk of health back.
His W is hella rude and people are struggling to find a way to deal with it.

>>153356760
Hold down W to select an origin point. Move mouse to the destination point. Release W. Watch yourself and any enemies caught in it go flying.

I feel they did good on his talents too. Some big ones in there, but you'll lose your sadism bonus for picking them.

His level 20 ability can allow him to have both ults. I also like how there's a talent that you gain bonuses from your allies dying.

>play PTR
>get put on Korean server with 200+ ping
>can't do anything
>have to watch while Jung-Bak and his friends kill me in less than 3 seconds (but I'll only see it after 6)

wew, fun times.

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>mfw my boy is back

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/The%20Butcher/The%20Butcher%20-%20Default/Butcher_DarkLaugh04.mp3

>no new posts in 40 minutes
>i-it isn't d-dead stop with that shitty meme shitlord

>>153359276
>most people are at work
when does summer end?

>>153359760
Wednesday, September 21 my man

you're welcome

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>>153359885
>its still going to be hot as satans ass until the end of october

>>153356760
>>153356909
Actually, you don't choose destination point. You just choose destination direction. How long you draw the arrow doesn't matter, it always pushes for maximum distance. Which is good, since you want have to waste split second to draw, just slightly move the cursor.

>>153359276
Bitch I just came home, fuck off

Alarak is fun! He's fun!

The W>Q combo feels super good when you pull it off, especially with the Q damage quest.

Why is Uther so much fun?
>stunning enemy divers
>shielding your own divers
>clutch heals to save your assassins
>pick off escaping low health enemies with wave of light

Where can i get Heroes of the storm codes?
I heared there are guldan and medivh codes too.
Please help.

>>153361564
i know i left through the window when you came

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YOUR SOUL SHALL BE MINE!

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Why is Aba and Li Li such a common drawfag combo?

>>153364817
furry+tentacle/monster+rape? you tell me

If you somehow manage to get 4 levels below the enemy team, is there any hope in winning that game or should you just go farm camps and pray it ends quickly?

Honest question.

>>153365415
Won a game with 6 levels behind and a keep down. Nothing is impossible in hots since the comeback mechanic is unreal

>>153365415
hope they fuck up by splitting, sit in a bush as a team ready to get a pick or rotate out of vision to an isolated selfish prick thats trying to clear a wave alone. soaking minions will never get you back.

>>153365415
Seems reasonable.
If you can kill a keep or two it would help you put pressure back on them. Be a slippery bitch and make them chase you looking for a gank.
Really though, 4 levels.... as a team you've done something wrong all game. Either your skill difference is too high or you drafted very badly.
AFK in lane, let it end.

So like what, you play on the PTR and you have to pay money to playtest?
what the shit is that?

>>153366268
you keep the hero you buy when it goes live, fag

The rotation changed; did we get the free heroes as well?

>>153304341
>abathur
>Vikings
>Medivh
Sounds like you've never played in high mmr.
Shit especially vikings, those little fucks are scarry.

Weirdly enough I have a diamond friend who has lvl 20 hammer and forces it way to much.
And we still have a 70% win rate together even with that shit. ( according to hot dogs)

How do you guys play Vikings on the new map? I feel as though Baleog shines a lot more on there.

>>153364817
Abathur looks extremely scary but inreality he'd get his ass kicked by Lili. So it's kinda a joke I guess since Lili is fihgting a scary looking alien while in reality said alien can't do anything against her.

Niggas in PTR, how does the new event work exactly? Do random SCVs or some shit spawn and you have to kill them?

>>153367931
You have to collect all the artifacts that spawn. SCVs will try to steal them.

remember these hots niggers that posted that picture saying "40 million people registered for the beta" with a chinese cartoon girl and some dota number next to it?

where are these people now?

>200 posts
>46 posters

>>153368176
All posts me though.

>spellbreaker johanna package costs more than just buying the skin even though I already own her
???
Nice to finally have a decent skin besides the base for her though it doesn't look like her at all.

Also why does EVERY freaking skin these days have to be epic? Does every skin need some kind of voice change/ability reskin?

>>153357196
>Can't easily solo bosses anymore
>his one decent late game lane pressure tool removed
He might brawl a bit better but I don't really like these changes personally.

>>153367931
Remember the monkey?
You just run around your base collecting random artifacts that spawn.
SCVs will occasionally pick them up. Kill them to make them drop it.

>Not all heroes are born of autism. . . some, like Alarak, simply desire vengeance.
What did they mean by this?

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Guess what happened during this game.

First time I saw someone doing that.

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>>153370858
>0 siege damage
Idk, what did he do?

>>153371207
he spent all the game saving us by grabing his team mates
whenever one of his ally tried to escape, he grabbed them so we could kill them.

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>>153371439
sure is summer

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>>153371439
He sounds like a colossal piece of shit

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>>153371439
Now that's truly evil.

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>>153371439

>ranked
>kt in my team
>0 kill
>only healers got less hero damages than him
>only rehgar have less siege damages than him

what the fuck happened ? I though kt was just spamming your abilities to be top hero damages

>>153374387
>damages
>damages
>damages

DAMAGE

What if Diablo's trait said:
>if you have 100 souls you can press the D key while you are dead to respawn immediatly and consume the souls.
Thoughts?

>>153374691
So you don't always lose your souls? I tend to think the 100 souls are worth a full respawn in the late game, in the early-mid game it might be a solid choice though.

>>153364817
>>153367523
They also are about as different in visual style as it gets.

>>153374993
Yeah the point is that sometimes it's not worth to lose all your souls.
Let's say you die in a teamfight but the enemy team is wiped out anyway, there's almost no point in wasting all your souls and your bonus health and shit.

>>153368523
I admittedly don't bother with base skins. They aren't really interesting.

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>>153374691
He should respawn on the battlefield tho

>>153375595
that would be too powerful for a trait, consider it an uninterruptable auriel ult that brings you to full health

>>153375789
You could make it a lvl 20 upgrade or so.

>>153369814
>Can't easily solo bosses anymore
>his one decent late game lane pressure tool removed

what do you mean?

it seems like Brand extending when you hit the target would make soloboss much easier, and for lane pressure he can take the cleave talent

>>153376564
don't listen to shitters who don't know how to butcher.

>>153376564
yeah, so bad he's a monster ganking and in the team fight

Shit, he can't solo bosses anymore, one of the most powerful meta tactics in the game

He has plenty of talents for pushing lane too, and also he can pretty much one-shot minions late game, but geez I think he can't push lane anymore.

>>153374536
Reminder that MVP will be decided by stats, so assassins and healers will go for damage at ridiculous times because
>muh MVP

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>>153377317
Why would you ever want to lane push as the butcher who has zero fucking escape tools for the inevitable rotation to gank your ass?

>>153299276
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20257011/
>Everyone will be given a choice between three Heroes to begin with – Tyrande, Anub’arak, and Thrall. If you already own any of these Heroes, they will be replaced with Nazeebo, Sonya, and Uther, in that order. If you already own all six of these Heroes, we will grant you their equivalent value in Gold (4,000)! All of the free Hero choices have the same Gold and real money value, so don’t worry about trying to find the best bang for your buck, just choose the Hero that you want to play!

>>153377464
I had a match where Abathur got MVP, was somehow funny

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>>153370858
>>153371439

>>153377559
>tfw have 2 accounts dont own kinky on any of them
>tfw i wont be cucked by being gifted a fucking ooga booga nigger

feels good.

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>>153377535
Looking at the map maybe and laning carefully

But yeah I guess I'll just fortdive with no scape and then complain for having no scape

>>153377559
>tfw don't own any of them despite having over 1k games
das it mane
Tyrande it is--despite her being level 9 already for me.

The brand no longer increasing speed when facing away from the opponent is pretty bullshit

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>>153377725
You sound bronze as fuck senpai.

>>153377535
watching the fucking minimap. I swear on god casual butcher players have the worst map awareness on the planet but enough time to whine about "muh escape tools" in Allied Chat. and then turn around and post shit like "no Butcher" in draft chat. meanwhile I'm sitting here with butcher at level 14 and 0-1 deaths per match.

>>153377559
>buying uther today when he's 4k
>will get 4k back in two weeks ;^)
we refund scam now

How do you feel about changes to Valla?

>>153378265
>Don't buy uther
>Get him free
>Still have 4k gold

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>>153378778
Quests are always cool. Her volley change is good. Don't know much else outside of her being now very reliant on her hatred stacks. Oh and her HA build will be stronger--hopefully people realise how decent this is (sometimes)

I don't care for Valla though. Gimme DAT ALARAK BOI

>>153379371
it's like that other anon who somehow decided that buying thrall now for 7k was a better deal than just taking him for free because "then you get two heroes for 7k"

Can you diamond and grandmasters carry me over my TL placements?
Just had a match with a falstad and a KT on my team who spent most of the match just arguing who was better and blaming everyone else every time they died

>>153378778
you die easier and it feels less rewarding to play well since the second you get hit, your playtime's over. Valla still feels like a worse Tracer, only now her 3 builds have been reduced to 1.5.

>>153377559
Odds I pick kinky.
Evens I pick purple ass.
Dubs I uninstall.

>>153380285
im no valla expert but

>3 builds

come on son

>>153379626
>>153380285
IT looks for me that she was robbed of early- and midplay,

>>153380285
Valla right now is pretty good

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>tfw Chromie will never be real

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>black dragons are known for plotting and taking the disguise of humans to manipulate mortals
>imagine if they add a black dragon
>with the ability to disguise himself as an enemy hero

>>153385629
Somehting like the spy in TF2?

That would be interesting, bit, you have vision in your allies, I mean, suddenly having 2 would be obvious
If there's no way of telling wich one of both is, that's different.

>>153386564
Still shit if team on ts.

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>>153386564
Yeah, kinda like the spy in TF2.
It would be interesting but I think most people will hate that hero even more than they hate Zeratul or Nova.
>>153386836
Also that.

>>153386836
Yeah in tournamets he would have no place

He would need a more trolli kit, like, "Now every heal dispensed by this hero will be damage" "Now every damage done by this hero will heal it's target" etc

Somewhat like a debuff Medivh

>>153385629
>>153386564
your trait lets you spy on one enemy hero in range, making them permanently visible to you and you only (they have a mark indicating this). your Heroic lets you cloak that hero (Tassadar cloak, full invisibility) and spawn a clone after the cloak drops. the clone is indistinguishable from the original (same name, same look) and lasts 20 seconds. it can attack enemies and use abilities. you have full control of the clone. after 20 seconds or upon death, the clone explodes and deals damage in a small AOE.

>>153378778
hot pursuit with storm of vengeance is interesting. the rest feels pretty average.

>>153380285
feel like they should have just embraced her being the mediocre guldan of AA now and reworked to a real D3 style hatred/discipline sustain model.

I simply don't understand how this game is apparently so hard to play. The people in this game that have the hardest time playing some of the easiest characters is absolutely mind blowing. I can't do it anymore.

>>153387708
But I don't like dropping all stacks at once.

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>>153371439
Monstrous

>>153387847
What happened senpai?

>>153389184
no doubt its a grandmaster tier player stuck in silver/gold hell

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>>153371439
Sounds like the type of evil I do in games I hate such as WoT where I shoot people but don't kill them so they get the betrayal kill instead if they shoot back.

>Wait 'til they get a load in me.

What did she mean by this?

>>153389442
Fuck off back to plebbit

DIAMOND hell is filled to the brim with complete fuck ups.
- Can't dodge skillshots
- Can't watch the minimap for rotation
- Can't stutterstep to save their life
- Can't bodyblock

HF trying to climb shit with 55% WR when you have to try hard all the fucking time while more than two thirds your loss are unvoidable due to non co-operating retards AND just flat out incompetents one

>>153389871
im sitting at a comfy 60%+ winrate after my initial 50 HL games played bronzie

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>>153389871
>not trying hard in a league that rewards trying hard.

t, bronzie.

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>>153385629
>he doesn't know there already is a black dragon, disguised as uther.
he is the first hero everyone who enters the nexus encounters, telling them to fight each other.

Is Kerrigan good?

>>153393765
her butt is pretty good

How's Alarak so far?

>>153394438
So is she good or not?

>>153394585
>His passive trait is 100% bonus ability damage to heroes
nuff said.

>>153396130
that really just means "half damage to PvE shit" though

>>153396130
and yet hes pretty underwhelming

>>153396436
For what I've seen he lacks sustain and movility, that's a pretty huge deal

>>153396595
So he's the Gul'dan of melee. Okay.

>>153396595
he can move himself with his W so thats okay. but yeah in a lane hes garbage.

>>153396695
>>153396742
idk what kind of weird fetish they have with releasing cool heroes with garbage kits

Like for real

>>153396742
he can move himself with his W but it's not that much distance

So he's the new Butcher then?

>>153396956
Alarak's kit is great. What are you on about? It's just a numbers thing.

>>153397281
butcher was still fun to play even if he was undertuned. from what ive seen alarak is pretty one sided and boring. cant really do much on his own either.

E does negligible damage
Q is okay and silence part is okay as well
W is neat, but you cant really do much on your own with it.
ults are garbo

The fact that if you take any damage during the wind-up for charge it gets cancelled, is really gay.

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>>153397851
I look forward to being a complete hindrance to my team as I level him to 10 then

>>153398091
>t if you take any damage during the wind-up for charge it gets cancelled, is really gay.

its not only that, i dont even get its usefulness. youre a hero with practically 0 escape. looking forward to

>*teleports behind your frontline*
>*unsheathes psionic blades*
>*gets hard focused and feeds*

>>153396956
It's better tha nkeeping up their retarded fucking mobility and power creep thing that they unleashed unto the game with Li-Ming and KT, Tracer, Chromie, etc. Any sort of mobility and high burst bullshit.

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>tfw the last hero I was hyped for was Chrome
>she sucked(s) hard
>next hero I'm hyped for is Alarak
>he sucks hard
JUST

i basically think dehaka is a ten times better hero desu. that says a fucking lot.

>>153393765
>>153395859
yes she is, unless you are a shitter. then you will dive 1v5, mess up her combo and only feed.

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>>153398760
>about to lose
>enemies at our nexus
>jump in 1v5
>penta-kill

>disconnected by server for the 2nd time in a row
>can't reconnect
>get leaver status in PTR for disconnecting

ummm.... blizzard....

>>153399397
>get leaver status
why lie

>>153399031
>not controlling earlygame with kerrigan, farming kill after kill and just snowball the rest of the game
anon, plz

>>153399483
I pretty much did that. The rest of my team was literally just that bad.

I spawned in, penta-killed, then pushed for game.

>>153398365
it also lets you charge through towers/gates for double the suicide

maybe pair with a medivh? ult in, force of will, WQE, portal out, hopefully whoever you pushed buttons at is dead now

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>yfw everyone will soon be fresh meat as the reign of The Butcher begins

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>>153400456
>Deadly Charge
After channeling, Alarak charges forward dealing 439 (208 + 4% per level) damage to all enemies in the path

>Blade Dash
Dash forward and deal 59.28 (+4% per level) damage to enemies, then return and deal 177.84 (+4% per level) damage.

Among top 5 worst ults in the game?

>>153401329
I too love hyperbole and shitposting about kits before we've seen them in action on live servers.

>>153389871
I'm above 60% Winrate soloq top 100 gm.
This is your issue, senpai.

>>153401521
some people get lucky more often than others

>>153401329
You're forgetting that fact that it does double damage to heroes. R>W>Q>E and one auto attack hits for 3k, which instantly kills most squishies. That's ignoring your lvl 20 upgrade, which are potentially some of the best in game.

>>153401329
remember that the damage is actually x2 because of his trait

i wish his ability descriptions also showed the post-sadism damage number

>>153401634
How lucky are you feeling? I'll boost you, all you gotta do is trust an anon. :^)

>>153401818
>>153401819
you will decrease your sadism as the game progresses. however, looking forward to being proven wrong and seeing some sick alarak moves. but i predict a guldan-tier niche hero.

>>153402293
He's Kerrigan tier.

>>153402406
but kerrigan is great right now my man

>>153402482
I main her. I know. He's a higher damage Kerrigan with a silence instead of a stun with his engage on his ult. I see him being weaker early but stronger late. I'm just so happy there's another close range caster.

>>153402293
Medivh-tier. Needs a good player to play decently however he isn't OP.

I need some help here guys, which of these heroes can be more useful on gold-plat league?
Auriel
Guldan
Medivh
Cromi
Dehaka
Xul
Greymane
Lunara
Rexxar
Kharazim
Leoric
Butcher
Tlv
Thrall
Azmodan
Chen
Murky
Arthas
Hammer
Stitches
Uther
Zeratul

These are the ones I'm missing, I got enough to buy 1 right now, but if you give choose 3 of them it would be great. Thanks in advance

>>153405587
buy chromie hammer and gazlowe

>>153405587
Thrall, but you can get him free next patch.
I would say Hammer Xul and either Arthas or Butcher, depending if butchers changes on the ptr make it to live. If you don't want another melee, Lunara could be a decent pick in the third spot. if you do buy hammer, play her like valla. Don't fucking siege unless your killing a fort or keep.

>>153406056
I would say Butcher is quite beast right now

>>153406162
He lacks a lot of survivability that he is getting on the ptr and if you die you're pretty much fucked for the rest of the game.
He's certainly not bad in his current state, but with the PTR he actually becomes high pick material, as long as you get past his slow early game the first 5 minutes.

>>153406369
In wich form is he getting that "false" survavility in the PTR?

Thrall over Anub right?

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>He isn't playing Team League
>He isn't in voice with 4 other lads
>He doesn't like the Trollface portrait
Why aren't you not playing this game the only way it's supposed to be played?

>>153406056
>Thrall
>Free next patch
Explain?

>>153407153
You get to choose one of three heroes, if you have those three you have a choice of another three, if you have those you just get 4k.

>>153407121
My friends don't play hots so I'm fucked.

>>153407005
For sure. Anub is mediocre overall and Thrall is good, easy and pretty much always a nice pick.

>>153406510
I didn't say anything about false?
Anyway. His level 7 tier is super good now, especially the one that gives you spellshield on charge. As well as having the option for 25% dmg reduction at 16, instead of useless cc reduction that only worked after you got cced. Mainly the fact that his 7 tier is great and his only lvl 7 abbatuor is baselinem

>set W to On Release
>set Q on Quickcast
>take the talent that increases Q range
>become deadly poke master of doom by casting and releasing W by rolling lard finger over to Q key

Alarak is fun.

>>153407734
W is already on release even when set to quickcast. It's a super nice combo, though.

>>153407671
Fuck sorry, didn't undertand your coment well

Now I did

>>153407925
it's perfect for bullying, like Kerrigan's hug me combo

Did they put the new maps on a PTR or something? Just spent the last 24 hours playing WoW and paid no attention to HotS

>>153408430
game died, no PTR no new maps. HotS is cancelled.

>>153405587
below diamond you can carry with every hero given you really know his strengths and weaknesses and have a good mechanical skill with them.
unless they require your team to know how to play with them and adjust. so forget about medivh, vikings, illidan, dehaka, murky, hammer, stitches

>Auriel
>Guldan
>Cromie
>Xul
>Greymane
>Lunara
>Leoric
>Thrall
>Chen
>Arthas
>Zeratul
only get them if you played them already on free rotation and liked them. it takes at least until hero lvl 8-9 until you start to really understand them and reach a decent mechanical skill.


>>153407005
thrall is a strong solo laner and sundering has the potential to win every teamfight

>>153408430
PTR went live yesterday, stays online until sept 13th
>new map braxis holdout
>alarak
>butcher rework
>valla rework
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20243696/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-august-29-2016-8-29-2016

>>153407153
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20257011/have-a-free-hero-on-us-8-30-2016

>>153408430
Yeah they did

>>153409135
the only thing that isn't a complete and utter lie in this post are the battle net links. stay bronze.

>>153409332
no you

How's the Nzoth skin for Alarak?
Can someone post a pic?

>>153407121
>trollface
>having friends
>>>/facebook/