/domg/ Dominions 4 General

1st for qt agarthan schoolgirls

Previous Panto >>153144297

Community Clash Teams (/v/anheim and /domg/)

Kate's speedbumps,

Cirno and two other noobs

/domg/ team

Sum1, Sy and coolstory.

Someone else can post the straw poll.

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Third for giant cocks

>>153299341
I vote that the vanheim team get named for okofire.

>>153299830
Okofire's Harmoney and Contentment

anyone have the Archaea map someone made of cave systems and ports?

>>153300165
Okofire's Barbership Triplet

If i equip a cursed item to a guy and the guy dies while in my province with a lab, do i lose the artifact or is it put back into my lab?

>>153295668
Dominions 4

What's the best thing ME has?

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so should i give it a shot or no REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>153304019

>>153304019
>>153304019
Do it. Wish for girls and doom horrors

>>153304291
Dont yell at me... b-but is it comparable to Heroes of Might and Magic 3 in any way?

Threadly reminder to join
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=GinnungagapREBIRTH
for absolutely no turn 1 crashes.

Turns are gonna be real slow for a while, I'm very sorry fellows. Having some weird issues with my PC and will be borrowing someone else's for a while every day and installing Dominions on there. I just won't really have any control of when. They will still be done, though.

I hope.

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>>153304470
Well, besides both being good and superficial similarities like both featuring many mythological creatures and both being divided to separate strategic and tactical components, not really. Many of the more fundamental mechanics are very much different, like Dominions having simultaneous turns and no direct control over battles (instead being able to deploy your troops and mages and give them scripted orders) and generally coming from /tg/ wargame lineage rather than fairly typical 4X.

>>153304470
It's more like Warhammer Tabletop/Risk on steroids and pcp

>>153299830
>>153300165
>>153300570
You guys wanted Team Okofire. We are team Kate's Speedbumps.

>>153304954
Who are you and do you have three?

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>>153299419

>>153304470
Not really.
Conquest of Elysium is the developers attempt at a HoMM style game, but it's kind of shitty/much worse than dominions

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Reminder new MA game
http://www.llamaserver.net/pretAdmin.cgi?game=Olathe

>sum1mod .66c
>16 players
>50 MF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUamYxDhog0

>>153305283
Team /v/anheim captain, Kami. I never asked for this. And we have three with one sub, but could always use an extra sub. If you want to, uh, 'apply' then I guess just hop into the steam group chat.

>>153306930
Oh. Who's the rest of the scrub club?

>>153302573
I'm not quite sure, but magic item loss in general is super fucked and in need of a buff.
It's a major reason why 75% of the items aren't worth forging, because you're going to lose that fancy sword when the guy catches a crossbow bolt, and none of the twenty other commanders with him think to get it back.

>>153307274
We have Me, Cirno and Emperor Point, with Eldritch Gentleman as a sub. We are well aware we're not going to win unless something very strange happens so we're almost certainly playing a meme team.

>>153307650
Remember, lads, it's not about winning.
It's about bringing the rest of the world down with you.
I wanna see spammed wishes for armageddon, burden of time and utterdark up at the same time, and of course, Admiral Torgin's Wild Ride.

>>153307650
>eldritch Gentleman
just give up now desu

GG Kalisa, could see it coming.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=AntiquisTerra

Start soon, fellow pretenders?

>>153308719
>18 players

how many stales by turn 5?

i'm thinking at least 4

>>153308719
>sum1mod 0.67

Jesus christ.

>>153258208
0.67 is a work in progress. Go to the "releases" tab for the most recent functional version.

>>153309254

Latus hasn't had any stales so far, as far as I know?

>>153309293
should reply to
>>153258012

>>153309254
Can we have at least 28 to 29. 18 is so low

>>153307650
I'm going to chose sauro and jews just to bully you nerds.

>>153309694
Unless we just abandon MEME TEAM plan, Sauro is probably not getting played. Although I imagine Cirno will try to kill me for saying this.

Is it worth taking Misfortune if you have Order 3?
How many levels of Misfortune are safe? I assume 3 would be too much bad luck even with high order. And if it is, would fortune tellers in every province be a decent offset or is that just not sustainable?

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>>153247725
>>153247725
>>153247725
>>153247725
REMINDER TO PARTICIPATE IN THE STRAWPOLL

MEME UP THE TEAM NAME COME ON
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>>153247725
>>153247725
>>153247725

>>153309828
>not having a meme team
I don't even know you anymore.

>>153309828
Don't tell me you're all going underwater.
Please tell me you're all going underwater, you crazy bastards

oh i asked last thread, does anyone have that Archaea image showing the routes

>>153310071
I don't feel comfortable voting for a name without knowing the nations.
I need thematically appropriate names.

>>153310249
God names will be another vote, famalam.

>>153310342
THE TEAM NAME SHOULD STILL REFLECT THE COMBINATION OF NATIONS INVOLVED

>>153310153
Pretty much all our plans so far boil down to 'play absolute cancer'. Like triple popkill, triple UW, etc.

>>153310437
No. The team name should reflect the spirit of /domg/.

>>153310542
The team name should reflect my ass

>>153310636
It already reflects your nonexistent dick.

What communities are involved in the community game now?

>>153310821
Bay12 Games
Codex Dominions Community
dom3mods- "Legend of the Long Knives"
RPG.net
T.R.O.W - chinese guys
Necropolis
/v/anhiem- "Team Speedbump"
The Last Fantasy - chinese too, I think?
Spacebattles
/domg/
Russian Team

>>153310973
>russian team
just let malakal lead it, it's his polish destiny

>>153310973

Wait, why is /v/anheim and /domg/ seperate communities? I thought we were pretty much one and the same.

>>153310973
Who knows about the Bay12, Codex, and RPG.net teams?

>>153311168
Vava_Green is leading it, I think, and he's around domg sometimes

>>153311226
I don't want /domg/ represented by a band of shitters and CIRNO of all people. At least our shitters are better.

>>153311226
>>153311302
every thread

are you just 1 person copy and pasting this?

>>153311226
The /v/anheim team is our dream cream meme team. Your choice of "We trained them wrong as a joke" or "the underdogs who must work together and learn to believe in each other and themselves." The /domg/ team is actually decent players.

>>153310973

>4chan plays
>china plays
>russia plays
>something awful won't play with the smelly pubbies


On a related note, why are there so many chinese dominions players? Are there chinese neets that find niche af games just like us?

>>153310443
Godspeed, you madmen.
Godspeed.

>>153311168
I'd polish malakal's destiny, if you know what I mean.

>>153311302
That's just the way it is.
All the good players remain anonymous so we'll really never have a good team unless we pick some nameless fags and hope they're good.

>>153311397
SA refuses to play with Ermor or Sceleria because they're pussies
>>153311239
Bay12 was alright when I played with them, but that was way back during Dom3.

>>153311390
It's more 'we are taking this simultaneously very seriously and not seriously at all'. We're talking about it and planning and shit but all our plans so far just seem to revolve around being shitters and making life miserable.

>>153311382
I just played with Cirno. You don't want him to handle anything important, trust me.

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>>153311560
>mfw they win because everybody else ragequits

>>153311530
Nicknight is not anonymous, and he has like 60% win rate in sum1's spreadsheet and 4000 hours on Steam. You can't make that shit up.

>>153311382

I think there are plenty of us newer people who don't really know there's such a split in communities between the steamgroup and the thread. It even says go there for multiplayer in the title, took a while before I realized most games were run with PBEM from here.

>>153311767
nick is the autist king, it's how he's so good

>>153311743
That is the plan. Our only hope of victory is forcing everyone else to give up rather than deal with our annoying shit. Truly we are the very essence of /v/anheim.

>>153311767
He's playing for Spacebattles, I think.

>>153308129
Well, yes, I am shit, but still. At least I try.

I don't make the same mistake twice, but given the depth of Dominions, I have plenty of mistakes to find.

>>153312076
Bullshit, even I make the same mistakes multiple times.

>>153312141
I still get fucked up by Shark Tribe Tritons every game.
I mean, they're unarmored. How bad could it be?

Hey Ceasidhe

Where'd all your land go?

>>153311884
This is the main problem with the community cup. All the good players are playing for other communities.

It'll be like when Canadians lose in hockey. They were just beat by other Canadians playing for another team.

>>153312730
We've got meme magic and shitposting, though.
The enemy can't predict you if you don't know what you're doing in the first place.

>>153311767
Will he manage to diplomonster this game, or will things go differently because there are community dynamics?

>>153312730
Are Sum1, Sy, and Coolstory not good?

>>153311767
I swear, most of those hours are just idling. I tend to leave it on in the background.

On the other hand, the new Archaea mapfile is here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1IGVeRBBP-8NjlpNXV0N3pXWWM

>>153312901
Sum1 is good, Sy is good, Coolstory is competent at the very least?
Maybe they'll go into the community fight and destroy everyone else or lose horribly, who knows when the only comparison is to other /domg/ players.

>>153312901
Well, sum1 is good, the other two are at least better than /v/anheim representatives, I think.

>>153312862
Chinese will probably rush everyone because they cannot into Engrish.

>>153312862
Honestly, I thought it was diplomonstering at first. Then I realized it was just getting an early lead, and then domg proceeding to be domg (any attempt to organize a gangbang vs a world leader just leads to backstabs and inaction).

>>153313068
>Chinese will probably rush everyone because they cannot into Engrish.
The Chinese study late game tactics and have a rule about not going into cap circles until X turn.

They're GETTING rushed, if anything.

name suggestion
/domg/
DuelBless Oldfags Murdering Gods

>>153313241
mediocre

bob's foresters are winning right now

>>153313235
I wish SA was in so they could get eaten by Ermor.

>>153313357
What's the deal with Goons? Did anybody even contact them?

>>153313120
I mean he's got an all around good game, solid expansion. Picks his early conquests well, and diplomonsters the other snowballers, which if even one person attacks means they're slowing down. And always has a plan for lategame.

>>153313328
/domg/
dominating okfire's mum's gangbang?

>>153313737
I'm sorry anon, but it's shit.
Acronyms are overrated anyways.

How many world maps does this game have?

>>153314672
Huh? As many as you're willing to make.

How many pretenders have YOU killed this turn, /domg/?

2

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Olathe

join you fags

>>153315491
that's not the right map link btw

>>153317746
http://xcalibur.cc.tut.fi/~mikael/RedDusk.zip

Are random events common or rare when a game says all other settings are default?
Creating a game in the client has them at rare by default, but llamaserver has them at common when you create a game from there so it's a little confusing.

>>153318607
This is the least confusing thing you will encounter in this game.

Also, llama has easy research by default and scoregraphs on.

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Dark Vine indies are true terror.

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>>153320561
>tfw no Guts hero in dominions
Those crappy ulm heroes don't count

So one of the things that bothers me the most about dominions is that some nations have a lack of H3's which is a huge disadvantage late game. Now I know if you're in a position to win you're also usually in a position to grab a water province and make some bishop fish. Or get an artifact to boost an H2 to an H3. But that doesn't sit well with me thematically.

2 fixes I thought of:

Every nation has a Conj 8/Conj9 H3 summon. Late game super expensive summon and not cost efficient compared to the bishop fish, but If you're a super powerful god seizing control you should have some super powerful servants if you're going to be Pankoman.

Second idea I had was Pretenders being able to create Avatars. If you're a being powerful enough to claim godhood, you should be able to create an Avatar of yourself. Now I'm not sure where this would fall on research, it might even be you can do this if you have a certain number of ascension points (though I guess that would encourage snowballing). But your god creates an Avatar of itself which is essentially a copy sprite but faded with 20% less skills and half magic paths, but it can claim thrones and will bless all your troops with it's presence.

Just some thoughts.

>>153322231
>what are juggernauts?

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ded

pls live

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>>153326175
Next turn you're gonna wish I died.

>>153309980

O3Mis1 is incredibly doable for every nation that wants order. Mis2 is still pretty okay, but is tons better if you have fortune tellers, and triply so with non-cap only ones. Mis3 unlucks a shitton of bad events and while it won't totally cripple you, the province/gems/gold lost events will be annoying as shit.

Fortune Tellers are best when you can recruit them in any fort, and it's better to just mass them there since those are much more important than your other provinces. Spreading them around in every province under your dominion is tedious, wastes upkeep/potential rp, and considering most have >10% chance of mitigating a bad event not terribly useful.

Keep an eye on your other scales if you take misfortune since it + drain scales means you have a good chance of losing gems.

>>153328761
>it + drain scales means you have a good chance of losing games
fixed

>>153328761
>Mis3 unlucks a shitton of bad events and while it won't totally cripple you, the province/gems/gold lost events will be annoying as shit.
Couple things -

So first off, you are right that it's bad to take Mis 3. It has been tested and determined that O3M3 gives less gold than O2M2 even if only measuring cap income.

However, your reasoning is off. Misf 3 doesn't unlock a huge number of new events, and most of them also require another scale. The real problem is the way luck scales work. Basically, imagine a sliding scale where you've got unc good, good, bad, unc bad. Misfortune pushes events towards the bad side. This means that not only do you tend to get more bad events, you also both get a reduced chance of good events and a higher chance of WORSE events.

>>153329150

So this is why "Bad Omen/Witch Hex" spirals are so shitty

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Uuh R'lyeh, care to comment on this?

How would a Magic Duel-spamming Assassin work?

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>>153330782

>>153330876
Riley already has them. Basically, if you attack anything else but S mage you're screwed. If you have 2 water bottles, you're not so screwed. If you attack an S mage and lose the duel, you're screwed.

Ergo: just don't do it and use water bottles.

>>153330782
You left him unchecked, now he fucks your ass. Simple enough.

>>153330876
Badly ?

>>153330876
I mean, you aren't going to 'spam' it. One lives, the other one dies. Generally I'd say that it's a waste

>>153331369
>>153331342
>>153331338
What if you got a Stellar Focus and Arcane Nexus going, pumped them up to A10, and then sent them out?

>>153331458
Then you'd have wasted an inordinate amount of pearls to maybe kill some astral mages

>>153331458
It's still bad. But it's fancy.

Well, MAYBE if you make a S9 pretender for Riley (which I did), wear shademail, and buy a black heart.

Still, he's gonna be as effective as any other god assassins. It would be easier to cast Master Enslave at that point.

How do I get in contact with shillwinter?

>>153331769
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198009020417
The only possible way. Don't even try e-mailing them.

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>>153331936
>dev only played his own game for 5 hours

Can artificial heart injuries be healed?

>>153332119
If you remove hearts somehow. For example, killing an immortal unit with a heart and making it respawn in the capital will remove the heart, and let him recuperate chest wound eventually.

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>>153330782
Well you see, I was also getting messages about preparations for war, at the same time you were. Clearly, the game is telling us something here. And I'm not just going to ignore the whims of the Dominions gods.

Ignore the Golem sent to the Typhian Sea though, we have purposely trained him wrong, as a joke.

>>153331630
>Assassinate battle vs 1 mage and maybe some mindless water elementals
>Master Enslave
Did you uh, take lessons from Kurgi? Because the sane option is to use . . . normal enslave (naturally Kurgi disrespects hard enough to open with Master Enslave, even in a 1v1 - which got him into trouble during the test we ran since his opponent was the Legion of Gods).

>>153332585
I meant using ME in ACTUAL battles and not assassinations.

>>153332381
So that's it huh? A shame. I had a dream, a dream of a late-game made entirely out of water nations and a single land nation. You could have been the chosen one, you were supposed to protect the UW, not destroy it.

>>153332693
Therados isn't in this game, and I'm not gonna be like WHATEVER asshat is spreading bane venom everywhere (seriously, I've had Arco/Caelum/Sauro all show being hit by it to me, and I've been hit by it myself . . .)
The civilian populace of the waters shall be safe from our wars, such is the decree of Squid Ink.

>>153332931
But you attacked two provinces with no armies in them, who counts as civilian populace to R'lyeh? Squid children only?

>>153332931
>implying it's just one nation

>>153333043
Polypal spawn

>>153331936
Do I just add him or what?

>>153333216
You can try. Don't expect it to work though.

>>153333043
We cleared out officers in green and replaced them with officers in . . . naked, because no fucking body slots.
The province population was not harmed.
>>153333086
I'm really hoping it's just one nation (Bats) because its quite annoying. If I find out who it is, and my tentacles can reach them, there will be PAIN.

Do on-attack effects of shields work on ranged attacks? Like Totem Shield or Vine Shield ? What about the awe check from gleaming gold?

>>153334509
No. Awe isn't rolled for ranged attacks, so also no.

>>153334509
No and no and no. Awe only works in melee too.

Are Dancing Shield and Dancing Trident meme items? Or are they worth getting?

>>153334797
dancing trident is a very situational anti-thug item

dancing shield is pretty meme

>>153334797
Dancing shield gives you a 50% chance to block ANY attack that is not AN or ignores shields, if I remember correctly. It is a good item, but it's not like you'll want to craft it unless you have nothing to put in that other misc slot of your thug/RoS caster.

Dancing trident amplifies your single-target attack power, but again, it's not like you specifically want it made, as there are more useful items for that misc slot.

TL;DR: both are situationally useful. If you get them from event, good. If you have nothing else to craft for those misc slots, and you NEED that thug power, okay.

>>153335071
>Dancing shield gives you a 50% chance to block ANY attack that is not AN or ignores shields, if I remember correctly. It is a good item, but it's not like you'll want to craft it unless you have nothing to put in that other misc slot of your thug/RoS caster.
It's 20 prot, actually. Still mostly does what you say it does, since most things don't beat 20 prot + whatever prot is underneath it, but I'd never make it.

>>153335156
It stacks with other shields/armors/natural prot though. Well... The way prot usually stacks, with diminishing returns.

>>153335308
Yeh, tha's wuh aye sez

>>153335379
aight m80

What was the command to make an unit craft something over and over?

>>153336314
O

>>153336314
Shift + O and Shift + M

FUCKING MANUAL
PRESS ? FOR HOTKEYS YOU FOOL

>>153339050
Quick, post memes to ward off the spooky skeletons.

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YOU HAVE BEEN VISITED BY THE PANTOKRATOR OF SHIT PRETENDER BUILDS


ALL YOUR PRETENDER BUILDS WILL BE HARD COUNTERED BY ABSOLUTE SCRUBS UNLESS YOU REPLY "THE WHEEL HAS TURNED ONCE AGAIN" TO THIS POST

>>153339270
The Has Turned Once Again

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>>153339373
YOU CHOSE POORLY

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Haven´t been able to play for some time.

Any significant changes, aside from the last two new factions?

Any open games still looking for players?

Do any of you play Pike and Shot or know about some good place to organize PBEMs?

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>not taking Luck 3 to get this event on turn 5

I shiggy diggy.

>>153340026
Summod now exists, check it out.

>>153340062
In the last few games I went in, I always resorted to misfortune to fit what I wanted on my pretender. I miss the gold events and free shit every other turn.

>>153340359
Order/Luck master race for free permanent +income events every turn

Do demons get fatigue on casting spells/attacks?

>>153340226
>

Goddamnit. Why do people keep trying to turn cancer nations like R´lyeh into proper contenders? They´re supposed to be an actual cancer, a threat to the whole world. Pretty much an always hostile AI faction, only the AI is shit.

>>153340523
yes. Even undead get fatigue from spells, but demons have encumbrance too

>>153340536
EA R'lyeh is sleeper OP

>>153340536
What about EA Helhiem? MA Man? LA Pythium?

>>153341305
>EA Helheim
Best rework. Spooky elves are spooky now
>MA Man
Still has shit magic and their troops were never the problem. I guess the new stuff is neat, buy it doesn't change the fundamental problem of being a human nation without good mages
>LA Pythium
Honestly haven't played it.

>>153340536
EA R'yleh is just outright bad, anon.
They aren't even good at being cancer in vanilla.

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i am getting this merc.

>>153342881
I can just send you 50 air gems to empower for the same amount of gold.

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>>153342881
Not anymore.

>>153342881
got him!

money well spent. fuck yeah sitesearching.

>>153342881
Have half a mind of dropping 12k on it just to fuck with you.

>>153343773
Why drop 12k when you can just drop 2004?

>>153342881
>>153343763
Actual Maverni here, this pic is fishy. Also I didn't actually need him for another 3 months, got my own illusionists now.

>>153343864
well fuck you, i bet it anyway just to spite you.

Attention all concerned citizens: Ragha is about to get Jomon, will happen in the next 2-3 turns.

>>153343942
You really went with 2K gold for brobscuro? As I told you in game, you've been hogging him all along! Though you would have had him back anyway since he is of no use to me.
I should have cloud trapeze'd him onto an enemy province

>>153311541
>SA refuses to play with Sceleria
Except they don't.

>>153310071
>2 votes for 'The Hudson Hawk Experience'
Excellent.

>>153344142
too late now buddy!
Broscuro is having fun in Abysia.

>>153344648
NOT IF I GET HIM FIRST

>>153344648
Well he is getting some serious dosh for it, so why not.

>>153344563
Ah, Lemuria, my bad.
All the undead mesh together in my mind.

What are some items that makes UW battles easier? Even if they breathe underwater they still lose because of fatigue or some reason.

>>153345441

Wave breaker is the only one I think.

>>153345441
Not an item but that currents spell works wonders.

What are the research goals as LA R'lyeh? Most shit doesn't work underwater. Conjuration maybe? Troops kinda suck, so I figured getting something decent would be good.

>>153346928
If you want Atlantis to not rape you, conj 5 and a ton of water elementals will be a priority. If you're the only UW nation, go straight for gem generators and then wish for armageddons. I hope you already took Luck 3 Magic 3 to survive 0 income.

>>153346928
>>153346990
Well I can say I've taken L3M3. I just want a quiet UW life, but if people come knocking I won't be the one most affected by the armageddon.

>>153345441
Remember that iron weapons and armor will rust underwater, which makes your troops way less effective. Try bronze, or any other kind of attack.

>>153346928
>>153348554
Completely forgot about research goal which was the initial question, but can't really help there, we're playing with Magic Enhanced that changes shit up considerably. Like >>153346990 said, git dem gems unless party pooper Atlantis is in the game.

>>153345441
These >>153345698 >>153346828. Fighting UW is always a massive pain and often not worth it. If you end up against something like D3 R'lyeh just don't bother, not only will you enter a hellhole worse than Ermor that is also UW, but you won't gain shit from the provinces in terms of income.

Before I send someone immortal to the arena, does the arena count as them being in your dominion if you sent them from somewhere in your dominion?

>>153349367
No. They'll die after defeat.

>>153349625
Ah, shit. Hoping to cheese it but I really can't afford to lose the hero I got on turn 2. Thanks

>>153348885
Gateway is a key part of LA R'lyeh's arsenal, suddenly that fort you breached that had nothing in it has 500+ chaff plus magic beings.

>>153349686
>sending a hero to the arena

If you win, your champion will have to keep going to the arena until it dies. That means next time people are going to send in troops with enfebleement bows and other similar stuff to cripple your hero.

I love the idea of the arena, but it´s very poorly implemented. It´s just not worth it to send in anything strong.

Not to talk about how maybe the next arena takes place right when you need that unit somewhere else, for example leading an army during an invasion.

>>153348554
Plz no armageddon.

>>153349931
That's why I wanted to send someone immortal, since they'd naturally recover any afflictions before they had to go back. Forgot about enfeeblement though, that'd suck. Though there's really not much reason to go since the items aren't really all that great to begin with

>>153350365
Don't forget horror marks.

You here, Hinnom?

>>153350353
No worries, as long as people don't try to bully squids.

>>153330782
I WARNED YOU ALL ABOUT THIS

>>153350880
So as long as no-one ever fights you and just rolls over so you can have the thrones then you won't armageddon?

>>153351015
No, more like I'd rather put pearls to other stuff and try to win in a way that isn't "make the game so dreary to play people go AI" than spamming armageddon. Of course if I'm getting gangbanged by 6 people then I wouldn't have much of a choice.

>>153350703

Yeah, what's up?

>>153351423
Get in chat if possible.

>>153330876
If it´s a weak mage, then there´s little chance of victory.

If it´s a strong mage, then there´s much better (and less risky) things for them to do.

The only situation where this works is when you spam cheap, weak astral mages to Magic Duel the opponent´s very expensive stronger S mages or a pretender/whatever with very high S. As long as you´re within 6 levels of difference, there´s at least a little chance one of them will be successful. Make some communions to boost it up and you can nuke high S pretenders with cheap mages.


But that´s it. Nature and death magic are much more useful for assassins. Spamming little creatures or skeletons usually results in victory.

>>153341305
Ea helheim rework is great.

Ma man, I don't understand some changes, but they're doing well on the game I'm playing, so that's something.

La pythium is interesting now. No idea how strong.

>>153351932
Want any insight/explanation of the changes?

>>153340026
I actually wanted to buy Pike and Shot. Is it fun?

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>>153350948
If only I listened.

He was already topping all graphs, I thought he'd be too afraid of the land nations retaliating if he took the whole ocean for himself this early.

>>153351201
I presume you and Bogarus will work out some joint ownership thing for the water plane?

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>bats are eating the kikes
>Niefelheim went AI and is next to the bats
>bats will have 3 caps by turn 20-25

PANIC

>>153352929
Well he also seems to have got TNN to remove Fomoria, beware the diplomonster.

>>153262671
Man I was after Ermor and because it was seen fit to give me next to no information (or scouts) of this game, I'am flying blind, Literally and figuratively.

Take your cap ring, I wont be pushing towards south anymore

>>153352929
Afraid of land nations? He's got water elementals for days, a metric shit ton (Not to be confused with the imperial variety) of mindblasters, and a horrifying research advantage.

I just moved into residence at an artsy college, it shouldn't be hard to get those Basalt Queens commissioned.

mis. 2 or drain 1 mis. 1? mages are chunky reseachers and I do have some fortuen telling

>>153353203
Are you the new Shinu or the old one? If the latter, when is the sub gonna happen?

>>153353281
Basalt Queen enlistment/war bond pinups when?

>>153352991
I'm not sure how the connections between planes look, but if his do not have stupidly strong indies guarding them (he started on the blood plane already), he will most likely take the entire water plane before I can.

Of course, if I won't contest that or not is another matter entirely.

>>153353552
Unfortunately, they're extinct. I'll see about it, though.

>>153352312
Been reading on it some time because of that price tag. It seems to be quite interesting, and more about learning strategy than learning the game. I´ve read some AAR in forums and it seems to behave quite like a tabletop wargame.

There´s also the point of you losing control of your troops quite often. For example, many can´t disengage from melee so they get "stuck" until the enemy withdraws or one of them breaks; broken morale units try to escape; units that have won a melee engagement will usually pursue the opponent, sometimes also leaving the map (they might come back later if they pass a roll, but it might be too late). There´s also very strict rules regarding facing and engagement: some troops can´t charge against cavalry at all; you can´t just wigle a formation through narrow spaces between others to hit an enemy there at the end like you would in Total War. Units generally move forwards, and enemies that aren´t right on the front can be harder to reach or simply out of reach.

This kind of thing has pissed off quite a lot of people, but it´s only historical accuracy and I´m pretty fine with it. It just requires you to actually think BEFORE you go all in because tightly packed pike formations are everything but mobile.

What do you say we get it together and jump into a PBEM, just like that?

>>153352929
>riley
>not being murderous cancer
I don't get it.

Best chaff to spam and mage-scripts for optimal city defense?
Yes, i know it depends on who you have against, but i'm a shitter who can't win against the AI at Impossible, so anything working there would be nice.

>>153353849
What's your nation? What's your opponent?

>>153353324
My understanding is that if you have small number of high research mages, drain has less impact compared to large number of low research mages. Hope that might help. Also, fortune tellers only work on province they're in so can be wasteful to spread them all around. Plus it's only a small chance to negate anyway.

>>153353849
Skellyspam is generally a good choice for fort defenses.

It's counterable, but those counters are significantly harder to pull off than the tactic itself.

>>153354046

>banishment spam
>significantly harder to pull off

lel

>>153354036
Drain gives a -X to every mage´s research stat.

If I get 100 research per turn through my 5 elite 20 research mages, Drain 1 would take it down to 95.
If you get 100 research per turn through your 25 illiterate 4 research mages, then Drain 1 will take it down to 75.

>>153352929
Rather sure I said that R'leyh was already in the process of taking land nation capitols a few turns ago, and I am relatively sure I spread the word of R'leyh already having multiple fully kitted N9 Golems. What should have given it away really was the part where he only counted himself when talking about the united UW coalition. This was, when questioned, because he was going to own all the water soon anyway so no one else counted.

>>153354036
n*(x+y) where n is the number of mages, x is the research per mage, y is the magic scale.

It hits you much harder if you rely on many mages than if you rely on few good ones.

>>153354772
shame to see the UW coalition idea I had going in memegeddon before pan cucked it got turned into "ryleh rules the waves." Pan reseting the original memegeddon really cucked my original diplo memes

>>153354772
If you could stop projecting your own imperial desires onto me. I maintain friendly relations with our truly aquatic brethren, and just because you consider yourself the only real land nation does not mean I view Pelagia in the same light.

>>153354508
For most nations banishment spam takes a lot more investment than skellyspam.

You want to be recruiting mages anyway, but recruiting priests means turns and gold not spent on very important mage support.

Can MemeOfTheAges badmin put arco into AI already?

>>153353330
>name wont work on phone

New shinu, probally giving it back after few days.

>>153355764

Indie priest can be recruited nearly anywhere and they are fairly cheap. Most people want to build a few temples around to strengthen their dominion anyway so you'll be able to build those priests as needed from those non-forted temple provinces without cutting into your mage production, whereas the skellyspammer WILL have to use his forts and researchers to enact the strategy.

>>153356182
Arco actually has a sub lined up, but the Admin is the one staling out.
Or, MemeofTheAges essentially does not have an admin.

>>153356427
Oh, so Admin is Arco?

>>153356206
Alright. I sent you a message with what me and the old Shinu had arranged, and I'm willing to compensate the loss of your pretender and troops with some nature or air gems. Do you want an even split or prefer one over the other?

>>153356551
Even split is fine, I'll sent my plans to you in game so we don't collide again.

>>153354812
You are wrong. Drain burdens you a lot more if you are using for research a good but expensive mages and less if a bad but cheap.
Let's use textbook example of MA Mari mages: Initiate (45 gold to buy and 36 per year for upkeep) and Witch Hunter (185 and 74 per year), note that Witch Hunter is sacred, so his upkeep redused in 2.
Initiate provdes 7RP per turn, Which Hunter 11 RP. So, doing a simple math, you can found out that Initiate's cost of 1 RP is 6,43 pounds and upkeep of it is 5,14 pounds per year. For a Witch Hunter 1 RP costs 16,82 gold pounds immediately and 6,73 per year. Note that upkeep is almost the same, so basically that means that in terms of maintenance in a long run in the neutral conditions Initiate and Witch Hunter have almost similar impact on your treasurary.
Basically, what does it mean in general? It's fucking means that if you are taking Drain and all your research-slaves losing RP, then it's a lot less harmful to lose 1 RP worth 6,43, then 1 RP worth 16,82. And visa versa Magic scale grants your mages RP, so for you it's much more profitable to gain FOR FREE RP worth 16,82, than 6,43.
So Initiates are your choise in the Drain and Witch Hunters in the Magic.

There is one more insagnificant point, that you have to spent 2 turns to reqruit Initiates, worth research power of 1 Witch Hunter. So using Initiates your research will snowball slower. But in the long run it's not that important if you have a lot of forts to reqruit mages, or you have limited economics, so you can not reqruit mages in the all your forts.

Basicall you was totally wrong. Cheap researchers loves Drain and expensive researchers loves Magic.

>>153356529
No, if the admin was in the game at all, chances are they were Ermor or C'tis, who are both now AI'd.

>>153356367
>Most people want to build a few temples around to strengthen their dominion anyway so you'll be able to build those priests as needed from those non-forted temple provinces
Indie priests may be fairly cheap, but you need quite a lot to deal with skellyspam. 60 gold each adds up, on top of the cost to build a temple.

Unless you're trying to dompush (or in a few other specific cases), you don't need unforted temples. They're a risky use of money because they can get raided and disappear.

>whereas the skellyspammer WILL have to use his forts and researchers to enact the strategy.
While he does need more gold of mages to pull off skellyspam than you need priests to shut it down, he can use those mages for things other than skellyspam whereas your priests are worthless against anything but skellyspam.

Basically mages are a better investment because they are versatile and not tied down to doing one single thing. Also, they're useful in peacetime.

>>153357194
That purely depends on the nation and what mages we are talking about. What doesn't vary is that if you use 7RP mages for research, the increase in research rate per turn is almost halved. Upkeep may be more or less, but that's not the issue, the issue is your research is being held back massively, most players are limited by the amount of researchers they can recruit per turn rather than the amount of researchers they can pay upkeep for.

>>153357194
You are bad at math and this game. Please play soothsayer Sauro and la Ulm with drain in every game I am in.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Olathe

You guys know you want to join. We even have a Ermor now!

>>153357194
Mage recruitment turns are vastly more valuable than gold, though you can actually turn enough gold into more mage recruitment turns.

>>153357194
Except losing 1RP on a 7RP mage means you lose 14% of your total research speed, while losing 1 RP on an 11RP mage means you only lose 9%. Taking Drain 3 when your main researcher has 7RP means you'll be cutting your research speed almost in half, which is nothing short of disastrous.

Your argument doesn't make sense anyway. Sure, in terms of RP/gold you lose more if you have more expensive mages, but if you care about RP/gold over RP/turn you wouldn't use those mages to research to begin with, so it's a moot point.

>>153357194
okofire pls go

>>153357194
This is terrible advice and you fail at math.

Some numbers:

Initiate upkeep per 100 RP (magic 1):
>37.5
Initiate upkeep per 100 RP (magic 0):
>42.9
Initiate upkeep per 100 RP (drain 1):
>50.0
Going from magic 1 to drain 1 increases the cost of research by about 33% when using initiates

Witch Hunter upkeep per 100 RP (magic 1):
>51.4
Witch Hunter upkeep per 100 RP (magic 0):
>56.1
Witch Hunter upkeep per 100 RP (drain 1):
>61.7
Going from magic 1 to drain 1 increases the cost of research by about 20% when using witch hunters

It should be obvious from the above that a nation using witch hunters to research gets hurt less by drain. While they'll be worse off than initiates in all these situations, the gap is closer at drain 1 than it is at magic 1.

If you go all the way to drain 3 you'll find that the gap is basically nothing - witch hunters are as good at research as initiates there (in terms of upkeep only, please note).

>>153358690
Early on that's very true. Later in the game, assuming you can recruit as many mages as you have gold for is a decent rule of thumb.

>>153358042
It's only correct in the early game when you still have money and few places to recruit mages. But already in the midgame it's far more important to have reasonable RP cost, rather than a lot of expensive mages doing your research.

>>153358110
You are bad at the game yourself.
It's obvious that having Magic is always better, rather than having Drain. Those who are having Magic always the leaders in the research graph, disregarding nation.
But if you are playing with Drain (a lot of reasons you may have to do it), it's obvious for you to recruit cheap RP mages everywhere, rather than expensive but few in numbers ones.
Using your example, LA Ulm with the Magic scale will pierce research score graph fast and will remain on top. But LA Ulm with the Drain Scale, won't be perfect in that aspect, but will be decent at least, or maybe even in the leading group in terms of research.
Do your math, nigger.

>>153358907
RP/turn is the only matters early in the game, and only if you need to amass your research. But very soon, you'll reach your saturation point in terms of economics and you'll regret not buying cost-effective research-slaves.

>>153359017
>Do your math, nigger.
Not him, but I did.

See >>153359005

Drain scales cause a larger increase in cost per RP when using cheap mages than expensive ones.

team name
>Bob's Oustanding Trio
>BOT
>BoT

>>153359247
Bah, if you've run out of gold to make new mages as you've been doing previously, it means your not keeping up the offensive momentum.
You need to eat fuckers, and take their gold, and keep making more mages. And use that greater amount of mages to eat fuckers and take their gold.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=AntiquisTerra

When are we starting this? I doubt we'll get 29 players.

Does spell penetration affect magical effects of weapons?

>>153359851
Don't think so

>>153359289
>Not him, but I did.
Please elaborate. I can't see how you got that numbers.
For example, in the Drain 1 each Initiate provides 6 RP, having 5.14 upkeep. So for 100RP they will have 85.67 upkeep. I can't see how you've got 50.

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>>153359918
So this is useless compared to its spell equivalent which can't be resisted? I mean any SC worth banishing is gonna have M-Resist out of the ass anyway.

>>153359817
I might join, same map as DG? What's the settings?

>>153359247
>you'll regret not buying cost-effective research-slaves
"Cost-effective" is relative, though. If you have drain, your "cost-effective" research slaves will be seriously underperforming since the RP loss is far more serious if you have many low-path mages compared to having fewer high-path ones.

I agree that in general, using cheap mages for research is a far better choice than using expensive ones, but that doesn't mean your assessment of when to use drain isn't completely retarded. Which mage is more efficient overall depends on the nation, but in general it's a bad idea to take drain if you have easily massable researchers, since your overall research speed will suffer more per point of drain the less base RP your guys have.

If you have 100 mages with 7RP and then take drain 3, you end up with 400RP/turn. If you have 50 mages with 14RP and drain 3, you end up with 550RP/turn. It's the same base RP amount for each, but the guy with the expensive mages will research way faster than you. Good luck playing catchup, especially since that guy will most likely be more capable of actually using those mages in battle. Even though he has far fewer mages than you do, he ends up doing better in every aspect of the game.

On the other hand, if you had the same situation but took magic 3, you will have 1000RP/turn while the other guy only has 850. As you see, having many weak mages benefits way more from magic, since you're now significantly ahead of the other guy.

>>153360004
>having 5.14 upkeep
Not sure where you got that from.

Upkeep is price/15 for nonsacred per turn, or 45/15 = 3 gold for initiates.

I even checked ingame, 36 gold per year for initiates.

>>153359734
You are having a point. But having cost-effective research mages from the start won't prevent you from having proper military campaigns. And visa versa, if you are having only expensive mages, but your campaign failed, you won't have any more gold to buy proper researchers.
Sure, success decides everything. But relying on the hope that you'll gain some free gold some time later is not the reason to be wasteful now.

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>>153332076
>implying the devs are Steamshitters

>>153360046
I actually didn't know that effect had an MR negates tag on it when it's stuck on a weapon, interesting.
I guess it is one of the cheapest artifacts and banish to inferno/kokytos only has 30 range in the first place.

>>153359817
Der Gotter had 29 players.
All Yesterdays had 30 players.

If you don't think you can muster at *least* 29ish players, don't make an Archaea game. The map was not designed for 19 players (it was either designed for 29 or 30, depending on your view of Therados).

>>153360273
Then say it that you was talking about upkeep per month. I was talking about upkeep per year.

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>>153331936
>devs play Dota 2

Explains the bullshit RNG.

>>153360483
Those were games with meme settings right?

It's gonna be hard to get players on shit nations without meme settings.

>>153349625
what if the arena is in your dom?

>>153360806
All Yesterdays had no meme settings (basically same settings, but without Summod).
Der Gotter has 75% sites, Indy 9, and 300%.

Can anyone tell me why Morgen Princess is a unit that shows up in the available units for MA Tien Chi?

>>153344125
Good thing he staled :-Dddddd

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How do i into Asphodel?
A link to a good guide is welcome as well, googling hasn't given me decent results for now.

>>153360569
You get the exact same result using upkeep per year.

Initiate upkeep per year: 36
Initiate RP per year (in drain 1): 6*12 = 72

Upkeep cost to get 100 RP: 100/72*36 = 50 gold

>>153359005
>in terms of upkeep only, please note
That is cruitical point here. The upkeep is not only thing which matters. The cost itself is matters much more.
With every lost RP of Witch Hunter due to Drain scale the cost-effectivness of his research drastically falling. See: In the Drain 3 Witch Hunter has 8 RP, which costs 23,12 per RP immediately and 9,75 per RP in the upkeep. And for an Initiate similar numbers would be 11,25 and 9 in the upkeep per 1 RP.
So, in the Drain 3 only upkeep is the same (and only due to Witch Hunters being sacreds), but the cost of each RP is twice as big. So Initiates here a lot better.

>>153360483
>>153360806
I don't see a point in playing this map without full players.
And meme settings actually hamper some nations.
>tfw we'll probably get at least a few AI/Stalers b y year 2

>>153361360
The map plays well enough without Therados, as it was originally designed before the nation existed, and they were sort of just shoved into the Med. (which can be seen in the fact that there are overlapping cap circles involved). And the removal of Therados grants the other UW nations as much accessible waters as R'lyeh has access to during expansion.
All the other nations are rather fucking important, though unless Mictlan prepares his anus, he's gonna die year 1.

>>153360072
That's a demagogy.
If I have 100 7RP mages, I won't have 50 good mages in their stead. And 7RP it's 1 magic path, and 14 RP (like in your example) it's 4,5 magic paths per mage. And you are assuming that 2 weak mages costs as much as 1 exteremly powerful?
Don't bullshit me.
In my experience if I can efford 100 1 path mages, for the same money I can afford no more than 35 3-4 path mages.

And no go and do yor math about Drain 3.
100 7RP will give you 400 RP/turn and 35 12RP mages will give you 315 RP/turn.

>>153361914
>if I change all the numbers and completely ignore the point, it looks like I'm not wrong!

Yeah, ok. Please keep using drain.

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>>153307650
Way to completely forget about me.

>>153362156
It was you who changed the numbers. Previously we was arguing about Initiate vs Which Hunter.

If it's 100 7RP Initiates they costs 4500 gold. For 4500 pounds you can afford 24,32 Which Hunters (185 gold per mage) with 11 RP per mage.
Now we are in the Drain 3. Do the math.

Now, I am smarter.

>>153361360
I'm a total moron who has never played online before. Willing to play meme nation since I'm just going to cock shit up anyway.
Do you want me?

What are some good spells I can use as Arco?

>>153361317
>but the cost of each RP is twice as big
In magic 3 the initial cost per RP for initiates is three times as much as witch hunters.

Initiates remain better than witch hunters even in drain 3, but the gap between the two is smaller.

Therefore, drain hurts initiates (low-research mages) more than it does witch hunters (high research mages).

>>153362594
Which age?

Also, would still like to know if there's an answer for >>153360962

>>153362426
Again, missing the point. I wasn't talking about Initiates vs Witch Hunters, I was using a general abstraction to show why Drain is much, much worse on cheap mages.

And your example is deliberately disingenuous anyway. Someone who uses Witch Hunters won't have only 24 in the time it takes to get 100 Initiates. Depending on scales, he'll more likely have 100 of them as well, especially since upkeep is less of an issue. And he'll have 100% more RP/turn then the guy using Initiates. Even if he only has half that much (which means he is paying way less upkeep than the Initiate guy, and thus can go on buying more for longer), he still breaks even.

You're just grasping at straws because you're afraid of admitting you're wrong about Drain.

>>153362760
Oh right, EA.

I'm kinda dumb with communions so I'd like to know what are my best toys.

>>153362456
The options are:
C'tis/Machaka (Africa)
Pan/Ulm/Marverni/Arco (Europe)
Caelum/TC (Asia)
Oceania/Pelagia/Therados (UW)

Historically, in both Der Gotter and AY, TC was pathetic. Arco and Marverni effectively *won* mainland Europe both times. C'tis has never been relevant. Machaka grew sort of big both times, before being gangbanged in both games. UW has much more room to expand in general, and with the exception of Atlantis who is always eaten by R'lyeh, does well.
Pan and Ulm tend to remain small, until being eaten by Arco/Sauro/Marverni (in both games now, likely). Caelum did horribly in AY, but is doing well in Der Gotter.

>>153353849
fatigue spells, summons, cluod of fire/poison.reinvig items on mages.

your goal is to have your summons sit in the chokepoints. you can try to have a small share of your meele units walk on the chokepoints slowing the enemy army so they don't get in and you have time to summon.some kind of defensive thugs can be good for that too, be careful that they should be geared to not die to your or enemy mages, fortunately you can buff them with your mages too.

beware fliers and ethereal for they an pass through walls.
keep a good share of your units guarding mages so your army won't get hp routed until all your summons will be dead.

casting aoe evocations, stuff that make the ground catch on fire, clouds, fatigue spells are really effective especially if your summons are immune to them or you are close enoguh to be precise.

>>153362259
You don't count. (It's okay we still love you)

>>153362867
light of the northen star into stellar cascade.
or just summon earth power, summon fire power, into fireballs, blade wind, mind burn, acid bolts, magma bolts mix.

>>153352929
>land nations retaliating
lol. Domg can't even coordinate a coalition vs bats on Oeridia when they brag about how ahead they are on everything, or an MA Ermor in a game ALL about ganging up on Ermor.
Now you want land nations to attack an UW nation with the least land presence other than Pelagia? The daggers will come out before they're even fully turned around.

>>153362456
As long as you are willing to play the game out to completion everyone is welcome to play

>>153362426
Are you playing in community clash?

>>153362867
Basically >>153363325

Though I'd also add that Earthquake could be useful with how many varieties of fliers EA Arco can field. And don't forget about Monster Boar.

>>153363740
why is /domg/ so bad at actaully working together

>>153362905
>tfw i don't particularly fancy any of those
Thanks for the info, Anon. I'll have to read up on the nations/the mod changes before I choose, but I see a few that could be fun.
Or play Therados for maximum pain. Their capital location is super awkward.

>>153363753
Will probably send in soon.

What's a good bless for Fomoria?
I can see:
EX for Druid Thugs and T-strike spam
N9 for cap sacreds, thugs, and SC's
W9 for Morrigans

How good is each option? I can see each stat still work even without the bless.

I am never going to stop whinging about my expansion on Latus 3. This is by far the worst PBEM I've ever played in terms of my own performance.

Would I still lose a unit to Arena Deathmatch even if they were immortal?

>>153366061
Meanwhile my expansion is great other than having a province I was blood hunting instantaneously revolt and go indie the second the blood hunting started.

>>153366106
yes

>>153366106
Yes. Didn't this get answered just earlier in this thread?

>>153366061
Well anon tell us who you are.

>>153366313

Agartha. I started on the fire plane and can't do shit. I think I'm just going to go AI.

>>153366376
You aren't me and you didn't start on the fire plane. Unless you somehow have even worse expansion than me I would have seen you by now.

>>153366376
Wait, isn't Agarath in the Earth plane on Latus?

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Arco reconsider expanding southwards, a very screwy border would be the result of expanding south.

uhh... so, can we speak about the fact that we're going to lose mages every turn now?

>>153359817
If we start now nations who are hemmed in by neighbors are fucked and nations who have wide open expansion because of the missing players will run a train.

>>153367378

Can Ermor neighbors FINALLY remove him? Like REALLY? Thought we were doing alright with anti Ermor coalition but there seems to be no results.

>>153367337
That's fine. Sent you a message agreeing to not expand any further south from that location. However, if you happen to be in /v/anheim I can tell you about the rest of the message in advance. Important happenings.

Good to see Ermor is putting those gems I sent him to good use.

>>153367517
do you realize that WoG is evo6, which means that any siege will be met with winds of death every single turn.

the fact that only incompetent faggots like shinu (who lost his fucking pretender to man), man (who is a new player), vanheim (who didn't even bother to take a bless), and mari (who wanted some russian dick instead of skeleton removal) bordered ermor and didn't remove him early game doesn't help the situation.

also, mark my words, he's gonna cast BoT and Foul Air, and then everybody will AI. REMOVE SKELLIES REMOVE SKELLIES

>>153367929

Vanarus and Mari making peace would be a good start I think.

>>153367929
>invade ermor with wrath of god that works better at turmoil 3 and in ermor's own dominion while I grab the thrones and win
It's not even funny at this point, Ulm.

Who's sent their turn in:
Caelum 2h file received
Abysia 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
Jotunheim 2h file received
Bandar Log 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
>Ys Waiting for 2h file
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received

What advantage does a line formation REALLY have?

What about double line?

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Hope you like the current state of our game. More soon, stay tuned.

I'd like to thank Asphodel for the gems. I'd cast this shit even without them, but that just makes it much easier.

I'd also like to thank another gem sender who wished to remain anonymous. I also have SOME honor, so I have to decline your offer for pearl scam. I already did that with Flatus, let's keep this game meme-free, please.

>>153369101

Most f those were my diseases crossbreds in former Asphodel land.

>>153369101
>let's keep this game meme-free, please
Isn't that contrary to the purpose of the game? I mean, it's ALL MA MEMES.

>>153369013
Line formation makes it harder to be enveloped by mass enemies. Double line is the same but more depth so you can have a giant wall, possibly paid for by mexico, made entirely of blockers.

>>153369174
I didn't cast that global to kill chaff (although it does that pretty well with prolonged exposure to my dominion), I cast it to kill 1-2 mages every turn.

As I said, more to come. Still waiting for that removal squad. I'm actually pretty sad we didn't start close to each other. Perhaps we'd have REAL battles. For now it's just raiding-counterraiding.

>>153369348
Uhh... You have a point. But my original message kind of defeats the purpose already and I can't just delete it because most people use 4chanX anyway.

>>153369101
This is a clever false flag to prevent dispel pooling. Kudos.

>>153369467
If I got a formation fighter should I always set him on line?

>>153369537
Probably. You should also keep in mind that line-double line-sparse line PREVENT fliers from flying I'm looking at you, Flatus Batman, you magnificent retard, and makes all units move at the minimal possible speed.

>>153369527
>implying it'll work

There's little doubt that there's anyone here who got fucked more by undead than myself. In fact I am still getting fucked right now by Aspho's last remaining 120 or so troops.(annoying raiding).

And yes I do have Dispel researched and am willing to do it, however I am a bit reluctant since I plan on charging towards Ermor's provinces anyway, possibly killing his mage in the process. However if you guys think the global is getting out of control I'm always up for it (and got 30 pearls to donate myself).

Can Starshine Skullcaps still cause wearers to get Horror Marked?

>>153369527

Like we would dispel WoG out of all things. I am waiting for BoT.

And you can be sure I wont run a dispel scam on BoT, Abysia is too old to play with that fire.

>>153369692
>I'm looking at you, Flatus Batman
that was just fucking hilarious. what was it, 3 mages who summoned fire elementals vs 300 bats? anybody saved battle report?

>>153369898

Oh Man my man come tot he steam chat please.

>>153369913
No?

>>153369965
If I was Ermor, I'd go for either Foul Air that goes well with WoG, or straight for Utterdark for the ultimate endgame. Maybe spice it up with Well of Misery a little.

>>153369913
Starshine skullcaps don't have "tainted" trait, so they won't horrormark the wearer. They won't prevent horrormark spell from working. Nothing can do that.

>>153369013
>line formation

-decrease damage received from not100precision evocations/damage spells by 40-80%, same goes for arrows and javelins. that's fuckhuge. diminishing returns as you get closer or add many lines of troops.
-envelops square squads, gaining a meele advantage in attacks/round.
-does not get enveloped by an enemy line, but rather fight them on equal term
-often maximize damage taken and received in meele, if you are aiming for faster exchanges
-long lines decrease the chance an enemy squad will sneak past your ranks and murder your backlines
-decrease damage of small squads of enemy tramplers on the first turn.

>double line
-similar to line formation
-when you need to ensure enemy troops will not break a hole in your formation within 2 rounds
-when the normal line was looking to long but you can't create a different squad or prefer an higher hp on the squd to prevent routing
-overall a more squad-number efficient but otherwise worse version of single line

>>153369898
>possibly killing his mage in the process
Isn't it obvious that he used his immortal god to cast it?

>>153370163
Will killing immortals stop the global? Like, when they respawn in friendly dominion?

>>153370110
>>153370080
Kay.

Huh, I swore it could inflict Horror Marks in Dom3...

>>153370302
Only if you feeblemind them in the process (Nether Darts).

>>153370406
Forget what you knew about Dom3 desu senpai.

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>>153330782
I'm afraid that it's much worse than that.

While no formal alliance has ever existed between the nations of Pelagia and R’lyeh, our sovereign states have bonded through our shared experiences in the Atlantian Crush. They were the only ones to assist us when the abominable Living Pillars came into our waters and their heroic intervention led to our hard fought victory. Our commanders and brave soldiers could not have triumphed without them. We thus owe them (and them alone) a great debt.

In theory, this means that Pelagia’s Triton armies are obligated to help R’lyeh put every one of Oceania’s miserable amphibians to the trident.

My nation is better than that though, and thanks to our incredible foresight, a formal agreement to prevent that kind of carnage was signed between Pelagia and Oceania long ago. That’s why our armed forces have never clashed over territory and it’s why Pelagia has begrudgingly respected Oceania’s wish for neutrality. Pelagia has even provided favorable reports on Oceania’s strength and usefulness in an attempt to prevent this kind of thing from happening.

But then you went ahead and broke our joyful peace by murdering Commander Halys.

>>153359817
As much as I love big maps and seeing all nations in play, I still get nightmares of times I were leading late game in map half of that size.
I'd join if I had time, but only as tiny meme nation.

>>153332931
Abysia as well, apparently.

I think they're moving through the caves, so it could be essentially anybody.

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>>153370482
We have debated endlessly about why you would murder that poor Triton but the only theory that makes any sense is that Oceania is desperate to see what real aquatic soldiers can do. Pelagia’s commanders and mages will happily oblige your sick curiosity. You may even get to see my own growing horde of golems in action.

You can atone for your failures by immediately providing Pelagia the following:
>5000 Gold
>500 Astral Pearls
>The immediate surrender of the Cape of Storms garrison for summary execution
>A full apology for provoking R'lyeh

Fail to do so and your Capricorns will join the Basalt Queens in oblivion.

Love,
The Pearl Kings

>>153370482
>>153370732
Mind explaining what Commander Halys was doing in one of my mage centers in the first place? The security around those places is maxed out to ensure the safety of our less combat-able crafters. I do not believe that kills happening on our territory in self-defense can be considered an act of aggression.

>>153370923
If you're worried about the astral pearls, just use alchemy.

>>153370923
You're next in the great UW removal. Pelagia, being a spineless cuck to aboleths, will not support you in a classic /domg/ fashion. Then agin, he is next in line, so he'll join you and Atlantis soon.

And they called me mad! Mad for thinking that we couldn't trust those abominable creatures! The Aboleths will enslave Drywalkers and Waterbreathers alike, all because none would stand with the Deep Ones!

I hope everyone is ready for the endless N9 golem armies