/4ccg/ - The Usual edition

Can we just let it die?

>>153283184
horse pussy

benis

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Reminder that /hr/ is dead

>>153283343
Reminder that /hr/ was never alive to begin with.

nth for nobody listens to /4ccg/. Why?

Why isn't there a /hc/ team? They are an old board.

>>153283343
Those are some fake tits

>>153283710
because Lear is a sockpuppet to the people who really run this cup: #Toplads

>>153283776
Because no one cares about /hc/

>>153283854
I care about /hc/, Fuck you

#nerfthegolds

>>153283710
Because /4ccg/ are a bunch of fucking idiots.

>>153284161
So are the people in IRC.

>>153283710
Because offseason /4ccg/ is a collection of about 100 headbanging autists like this guy (>>153282181) with delusions they represent the voice of THE VIEWERS.

The reality, of course, is the the portion of those 2k viewers who have any knowledge of this place almost uniformly loath you losers. You don't speak for anyone but the obsessive fringe.

>>153283034

Unless you tested it, you know jack shit. So would you kindly stop being such a temper tantrum throwing child and shut it, until you actually have some data to back your whiny anonymous ass up.

People in /rules/ spent weeks actually testing their ideas and suggestions, and they came to the conclusion that PES16 AI is fundamentally fucked, and there's no ruleset that is going to fix our problems without causing a lot of new ones. But hey, here comes PES Prodigy Anonymous, who doesn't need to test because he 'knows' what is going to work. The harder you yell in /4ccg/, the more right you must be.

>Bochum is /ck/ manager
How did that happen?

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>>153284619
>People in /rules/ spent weeks actually testing their ideas and suggestions

>>153284619
Then why not stream some games on the main cup channel - maybe even with color commentary and official announcements to ensure maximum viewership - with nerfed golds/buffed non-medals using tactics we've already seen before in the cup so everyone can see whether or not the games are as underwhelming as /rules/ says they are?

>>153285003
If you're offering, then go for it, my dude

>>153285137
I would honestly love to do it and learn how to stream, but it's made difficult with my shitty third world internet.

>>153284786
Because he goes to /ck/

>>153285137
>>153285282

Dtroit should add that into Fakkin Boolshit program.

>>153285334
double wew

>>153285675
Moeshit Cup season 2 when?

>>153285809
Probably when PES 17 is a thing.
Or when a testcup will actually matter :^)
read: never ever

>>153285809
Hopefully never. It was shit last time and it will be shit next time

>>153284619
But hey, here comes PES prodigy Anonymous, who doesn't want to test nerfed golds because he knows what's 'best'. The harder you yell in /4ccg/, the more right you must be.

>>153286268
Hi /sp/

R E P O S T I N G

It is very interesting that teams with two gold center backs perform well but we read the opposite. Apart from above mentioned, I found:
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//hel/
Maybe you don't test gold defenders right. Gold defenders doesn't mean one gold CB or two gold CB without fullback but TWO gold CB AND two silver fullbacks.
For me this competent defensive team leads to GA of 1 every 2-3 matches.
Maybe you hate the idea of "no medal striker", but it has be proven by several cup teams that non medal strikers perform well. /m/ /gd/ /s4s/
Non medal strikers are needed though because a 3 medal defense is as good as a 0 medal defense because the chain is as strong as its weakest link. Only a 4 medal defense is competent.

tl;dr: PES 16 has shit defense, so work around it! Don't spray your midfielders around the pitch randomly - place them in a horizontal line - they will keep this formation and intercept balls in the mid.

>>153286281
Test it yourself and post spreadsheets and streams, you fraud

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Daily reminder that dragonfag would have never allowed the current wiki banner

>>153286647
Daily reminder that Dragonfag is a hack

>>153286617
How about you post the streams first? They should already be done, after all.

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MayDave where is muh scarf

>>153286617
I didn't sign up for /rules/ so I could stroke my ego and circlejerk with my prodigious buddies about how good we are at PES while barely testing relevant/different changes.
You, however, seem to have done so and is in dire need of defending your honor so your e-peen doesn't shrink.

>>153286921
>you is
so mad he can't even speak english

>>153286748
Daily reminder that everyone in the cup is a hack. Not one person knows what they're doing. RNGesus strikes all in the end.

>>153287072
>replying just for that
>not even trying to deny it
(ok)(mm)

>>153287180
>thinking i'm the same guy
thanks for (You)r service anyway

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!!

Rankings update when?

>>153286921
I'm not even in /rules/. I just find it very easy to expose people who refuse to do any actual work.

>>153287629
Not today.

>>153287128
This.

Aesthetics are the only universal truth.

>>153288210
Smugleaf stop holding the cup hostage on PES16

>>153287723
Like /rules/ themselves.

>>153288210
As is how expendable they are if the result is a better game. Like FIFA.

>>153287723
You see the fun part is that at this point it barely matters how much work you put because if you're not in /rules/ you're gonna be disregarded.

>>153287629
How many persons are able to do the math anyway?

>>153288457
I knew someone would think I'm him, but nope.
I'm someone who prefers to waste his time on something a bit more consistent than stuff decided in the end by rng.

FUCK
OFF
FEEFUR

>>153289023
masturbating?

>>153289354
No, betting on /mlp/.

>>153289425
>betting on groupstage /mlp/
>consistent in this economy
they are literally shitugal

>>153288614
Again, not in /rules/, not even defending them because whenever I tried to gather some people for testing I could count them on one hand even after cutting most fingers off.

I always got the impression that a vocal portion just spews hot opinions based on the limited view they have on the game themselves. Whatever they happened to got lucky or unlucky with is what they deem themselves to be an expert on, and they'll defend that view religiously. They wouldn't dare to prove their shit through tests themselves, anyway, because that takes time and deep down they know PES might expose them. The little piece of 'knowledge' they hold onto so dearly might just vanish into thin air, making them just as clueless as any other manager again.
On the other hand, you have the few people actually willing to test, and they'll waste their time trying to prove someone wrong or just trying out something new, only to realize that their results don't even allow to draw any conclusion by their own standards. They also face the harsh truth that and at the end of the day, Boris/Lear/whoever is in charge will base their decision on 10 games they saw in some stupid meme stream, anyway.

>>153289856
If both sides are in the wrong, what does that tell us about the game they're fighting against?
Furthermore, what does that tell us about the people that shove it down our throats even though an infinitely better option is readily available?

>>153289601
knockouts /mlp/, but I appreciate that they take the time to craft a fun plotline. Who'd have expected them to win as underdogs this time around?

FEEFUR FUCK OFF

where are the highlights to the final matchday?

>>153290803
N/A

>>153290549
>underdogs
They're like a shit shounen protagonist who's annoying and wins because asspulls

>>153290549
>Underdog win
But /o/ lost?

>>153290952
Hopefully a bad analogy. Those kinids of protagonists always win in the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBSocJmRnwY

there is a timeline in which /wg/ played in summer

and won

>>153290352
The AI is shit, and even if there is a way to fix it (it's hard to prove otherwise), we apparently neither have the resources nor motivation to find it. It's bad if the game feels mostly unpredictable to managers, and the same people who wanted their volume testing to be appreciated a year ago admitted that it felt to have little to no effect this time around.

But, and there is the big but that will make you mad: it doesn't matter that much. I was absolutely positive a while ago that PES 16 had too many goals, that commentators would lose their flow because of it, that viewers would get annoyed by the constant goal horns, and that ultimately our blind faith in Konami and being able to tune things along the way would get back at us.
That didn't happen though. The viewers enjoyed the cup nevertheless, and it was mostly just as much fun to watch as any other cup that you had a little bit of distance to. Overall presentation is the reigning king, and that is mostly made up of aesthetics, commentary, goal horns, and the fellow autists memeing with you in the chat.

Going back to PES whatever would make like 20 people a little happier, while hundreds of people wouldn't understand why we downgraded something that appeared to be mostly fine. The people who do most of the work in the cup, /AesCo/, would be mildly to highly annoyed as well. They are the last people you want to piss off.
Also, I predict that much of what we experience with PES 16 will quickly find its way into older games as well. It's general fatigue, lazy meta, and the sheer luck to find something game breaking sooner or later that will turn any PES version sour. We just have to gamble again with PES 17 and hope we'll find something that is more fun to managers. If not, so be it. If it looks fresh and cooler it's still an improvement to 99% of the people who watch the cup.

oh fuck willy wonka died

>>153291843
>lazy meta
kinda been a thing since 2014 m8

>>153292150
Didn't pretend otherwise, I always perceived it as a constant. Even in PES13 everything looked the same towards the end. Not sure anymore if that was because everyone was playing the same shit or if the game just began to break down into recognizable patterns.

>>153290803
>21 minutes long
wew

it's almost done, Camtasia studio is just being shit today

>>153292551
It was because memecopter and other people fucked with PES JP too much. In spring 2013, it was fine, iirc.

>>153291843
>hope we'll find something that is more fun to managers
Dude, FIFA is, like, RIGHT THERE.

If /AesCo/ and the viewers don't like it, have the managers switch places with them. The managers get to sit and either make Blenders or "enjoy" the cup while /AesCo/ and the viewers deal with the most retarded AI to exist, with ten thousand tests yielding ten thousand different results and with nothing mattering anyways because everything will inevitably go to shit during matchday.
Have them do all that, and see how long they last without screaming for FIFA.

>>153292782
Half of /AesCo/ are managers already

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>>153291843
You're completely right...

Someone in /4ccg/ said something I find both reasonable and correct...

I think I need to go lie down.

>>153292782
FUCK OFF FEEFUR

>>153292782
AI vs AI on FIFA has always been garbage

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threadly reminder

FIFA-kun is the example of not knowing when to quit a joke

>>153293135
offseason /4ccg/ is the example of not knowing when to quit a joke

wouldn't have it any way

>>153293447
any OTHER way*

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Currently testing a skypeless rigcam system.
Also, this is not on the summer ruleset and this game was pretty ResidentSleeper

>>153293823
>skypeless rigcam system
Elaborate

Is there a wiki page for getting my aesthetics into PES?

>>153294123
It's hidden on a bunch of user pages because /AesCo/, while diligent, still believe the ghost of Tony will gobble them up if they touch any official page.

>>153294123
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/User:BasedSmugleaf/benis_productions#Converting_Aesthetics_to_PES16

>>153294316
thanks senpai

>>153294021
OBS streaming to nginx with an rtmp module, said server can be configured to relay the stream to hitbox, and also accept and relay another stream.
You transcode the outgoing stream to hitbox to a much lower quality version with a low latency preset with ffmpeg, then send it right back to nginx-rtmp. Then the managers connect to this second stream, preferrably with a non-shit player (or ffplay) and they get their video before hitbox.

>>153294389
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2016/DLC
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2016/Faces

These ones are important too

>>153293823
>/o/
That's why it's ResidentSleeper, they're default tactics are pretty sleepy, until eventually a goal.
Except once where I actually had a game against them that ended 0-0.

>>153293823
p o s s e s s i o n

>>153294508
non-technical tl;dr: all this could be done behind the scenes, the managers would just have to download ffplay, connect to a stream and watch
>>153294605
Yeah, I purposefully selected /o/ and /w/ because I wanted to see how sleepy it could get with two extremely defensive teams.

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>page 9

>>153292874
except not really

The AI being shit does matter more than the anon thinks. Yes, there's a bunch of drones that were able to enjoy themselves, but that doesn't mean things don't need to be improved.

>>153296724
>bunch of drones
>over 1000 viewers

>>153294292
PES17 will be our time to shine.
Or fail miserably

>>153296906
Everyone who doesn't agree with me is a drone

>>153296906
maybe 2000

Wow, I can't fucking wait for /mu/ to win, AGAIN. Jesus Christ those p plebeian fucks think they're so tough by picking on patrician wallpapers, what a load of shit. What's the point of even having a babby cup if we know what the result will be anyways
Fucking /mu/ ruining the cup, they should be out.

>>153284786
>Bochum on /ck/
>3 managers (antacid, bagel and him)
>now even /ck/ has a fucking council
Well if we've learned something about councils is that they either go big or crash big. I love /ck/ but >bochum doesn't give me a good feeling, guess /mu/ is gonna walk alone in the elites again.

>>153296692
Sure thing, but don't tell anyone!

4916 3004 9851 8504
12/17
886

Wow, I can't wait for >rape to score, AGAIN. Jesus Christ this arrogant fuck thinks he is so fucking tough by picking on unprepared goalkeepers, what a load of shit. What's the point of playing the first 90 minutes if we know what the result will be anyways
Fucking >rape ruining the cup, I bet he has Track Back.

>>153299261
>Nachos retires
>Boycum becomes manager
Truly, the Dark Age of /ck/ is upon us

>>153296906
Have you seen the chat? It's safe to say most viewers don't deserve to be acknowledged as anything above "drones"

>>153299261
>implying /mu/'s time isn't finally over

>>153299351
is-is this legit?

>>153299684
Memeback simply can't survive in this goal-rich environment.

>>153299782
It's like over-watering a desert plant, desu. He needs a goal-arid environment to thrive.

>>153299584
welp, on the bright side since it's the only team I care about I guess I'll be free, might still come to watch comfy tho

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>>153299668
I agree. It has been long since I figured out that everyone besides me are sheeple.

The highlights are all done now
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4qvok5

>>153299740
It might be for someone.

>>153299945
t. sheeple

>>153300029
hi ronery

>>153296692
awwww
i want to rape it

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>>153300521
stop

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>>153300521
You now have my attention

>>153286903
RC? Its still here, post office is pretty far away but I'll probably drop it off tomorrow.

>>153301209
thanks dildo

>>153301209
thanks dildo

>>153292782

Who fucking cares if managing is fun for managers?

Managers only happened because boards wanted a voice in designing and controlling their team, not because the world was missing a venue for random autists to play coach mode by proxy over the Internet.

The Cup exists so we can have fun watching 4chan teams do stupid football things. If you're buttmad it isn't fun to "play" then fuck off and go e-sports somewhere else.

>>153301209
thanks dildo

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Hat Pick: /a/

>>153302220
>that disgustingly ez4/u/ group G
wew

>>153301209
*sick bassline*

>>153302052
#RemoveManagers.

Select formations, cards and etc. from a diceroll.

>>153300705
i want to rape this one even harder

>>153302527
I want someone to stream this

>>153302564
I'm gonna fucking rape you if you don't stop

>>153302638

Maybe if I'm bored I'll try this

>>153304331
pls include /myteam/

>>153302527
Isn't that what /o/ have done the past few cups

>>153304331
Don't include this team >>153304417

>>153304536
You're not very nice.

>>153304504
Thought it was /sp/

>>153304668
Take a look at /o/'s cards, i'm sure half of it was random.org

>teams that haven't seen an Elite in years may do so in Autumn
WAKE ME UP INSIDE

>>153305158
If it looks random and it works...
Seriously, it isn't their year because why the fuck would anything good ever happen.

>>153305307
turnover is good for the cup

>>153305307
depose /s/ overlords bring back /y/

>>153305307
It's /co/'s yeah, baby! WOOOOOOOOOOO

>>153305672
>/co/'s yeah
we /bahston/ now?

>>153305672
>/co/ without the Flush
>/co/ without Sweet Victory as victory anthem
They deserve to lose.

>>153306929

>>/co/ without Sweet Victory as victory anthem

http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//co/

Uhh it's right there?

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So, last word on the matter because now for pure curiosity I noticed that in the last thread I was called out.

>>153280480
I mean, good job on posting one of the last bits of the chat, whoever you are.
I want to clear this stuff once for all since I hate people putting words in my mouth. At first during the "/rules/" chat I was totally pro on nerfing golds, infact they were even tested. But most of people went that they didn't want to do it because it'd destroy the "gold playstyle".
So since I was the only one on thinking on that way, other tests were made by different people. First with Def Prow improved, then 80 GK and then the finishing nerf on strikers. In the end I tried to push all 80 no medal players, but it was declined because it was also considered "awful" in the end.

So this is what I just wrote is what really happened during that Skype group. People tested, various setting, with buff and etc and most of people agreeded that the stats that we had already was good. So instead of taking a lonely war, I agreeded. (Because you know 1 vs the rest of the chat was literally a waste of time.)

>>153307012
/co/ desperately needs to update their goalhorn. It's so boring and having it be the only one makes it get old even faster.

>>153307012
The dilapidated infested ruins of what was formerly known as the the city of (Me)

It's been quite a long time since I heard it. Thought it was changed.

>Every cup my team fails to advance
>Every cup I tell myself to stop being hopeful
>Every cup I get hopeful

>>153307316
Hello /c/

>>153307238

I don't blame you desu

>>153307210

>we will be polling goalhorn options again

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>>153307195
>agreeded
Hurt to read

>>153307195
Oh shit nigga I was about to go to bed but now I've gotta get some popcorn and my shitposting gear.
Thanks for fighting the good fight flimflam.

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>>153307316
>not already being dead on the inside
Just sit back and enjoy senpai theres no escaping it.

>>153307450
BRING
BACK
THE
FLASH

>>153307602

Only if the board votes him in because I'm not a filthy merc who adds people when he pleases anymore ;)

>>153307195
at least you tried, the worst option always happens in the end

>>153307210
Plus it's not even long enough to cover the entire replay half the time.

It's not like /co/ doesn't have a deep well of great music to draw on. I'd personally like to hear them break out some Thirlwell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuxRxO0Y_g4

>>153307686
But what if the poll shows that mercs have infiltrated your board and are voting for bad memes?

>>153307195
>waste of time
Stopped reading there. You know you're here to waste time, right??

>>153307195
Told ya, random /rules/ shitposter. You didn't listen becuse "muh gold playstyle!" and now you're trying to twist the situation in your favor. Thanks for fighting the good fight, Myuer.

>>153307593
this one too, to the rape list

i wish i was myuer
i wish i could get my dick sucked by 4 people whenever i posted trip on
i wish i wasn't a lonely cunt

>>153308092
Post with your trip on, I'll suck your dick too.
As long as you don't have the wrong opinion.

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>>153307974
do NOT sexualize!

>>153308092
>wanting to be a tripfag
Jesus man, get your life together

>>153308092
Basically this >>153308142
People aren't sucking Myuer's dick because he's Myuer. They're sucking his dick because he's actually the first tripfag that's dared to oppose /rules/ shitty decisions and stand by it.

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>>153307974
What the fuck man

>>153308386
oh I've seen some really good doujins with this one

paging any and all /ussr/ fans
Comrades, as you may have noticed we lack a victory anthem. Now, I'd be fine with just playing our beautiful anthem once we swarm all over our decadent, disgusting enemies, but there's also another national anthem from the Eastern Bloc I happen to love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7zGFZNinsk
Should we use it as our victory anthem?

>>153308780
How bout dis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Efb1DAeA34

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>>153308489
jerk

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>>153309019
wasn't even me that time senpai

>>153308780
Also you shouldn't use the dirty weeb version of Katyusha for BM-13.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODqmB5-WRQc

>>153309396
the weeb version is barely intelligible in russian honestly

>>153308780
>/ussr/
>lacking a victory anthem
They need no victory anthem other than the scream of dying capitalist dogs.

>>153309528
that's why it's funny imho

>>153307891

I'd like to see them try

>>153307195
>The Gold Playstyle
Yes because making our teams work like MLS where everything is dominated by 2-3 Super-Players is such a great idea, given the quality play seen in MLS

>>153309528
>expecting Japanese seiyuu to not completely fuck up singing in Russian
Also having goalhorns performed by a capitalist country just seems wrong

>>153309528
What, do you think the average voice actor knows how to speak Russian?

>>153309884
>>153309993
This particular VA (Sumire Uesaka, the voice of Nonna) is a Russiaboo.

>>153309843
>dissing the American Dream
lmao yuropoors don't even go doopin mental

>>153309290
Hey, it's not my fault all these girls have had more dicks in them than a detective agency.

>>153310117
So let's assume she speaks Russian as well as the average American weeaboo speaks Japanese.

reminder that the new rules literally got /trv/ to lose a game 0-1

>>153310272
>>153310317
>only have pictures of cute anime girls
I hate you people

>>153310417
/trv/ are fucking shite lmao

>>153310317
ew
town bikes almost cannot be raped either way, can't rape the willing

>>153310272
Yeah this has nothing to do with the 4CC. Please take it to /a/ or something.

AB/u/ conspiracy is actually real

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>>153310129
>implying I'm a euro
I just want my home country's soccer league to get better so people will stop laughing at me for watching it

>>153307195
If you actually believed in this stuff, you'd fight for it. Don't try and boast about how you were "right all along" when you backed down at first conflict.

>>153307195
You're getting so many (You)s while I starve in the cold. Could you help a non-tripfag out?

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>>153311887
Here, you lowlife (you) junkie
HAPPY NOW?

>>153311887

Here's your (You) faget. Now go buy yourself a noose. :^)

>>153307195
So, in the end it was JB and carma who ruined everything by bringing up arguments like "m-muh football experience" or "m-muh team without any changes is not doing well on those rules, so scrap them or I'll yell really loud"? Not really surprising. But glad you fought a good fight there and are not afraid of openly expressing your opinions.

>>153307195
>whining to /4ccg/ because you're too much of a bitch to fight for better rules

All this discussion made me think if you people actually play this game or just meme around.

So /4ccg/
Do you enjoy soccer other than 4CC?
Do you play the actual thing?
Do you play PES?
Are you a cup manager?

>>153312397
>m-muh team without any changes is not doing well on those rules, so scrap them or I'll yell really loud"
what? you realize these people were taking time away from their actual teams to test rules right.

>>153307195
>bitching about everyone else instead of actually doing anything
sasuga I know the AB/u/ conspiracy would probably ban you but c'mon son

>>153312556
So /4ccg/

>Do you enjoy soccer other than 4CC?
Yes

>Do you play the actual thing?
No

>Do you play PES?
Yes

>Are you a cup manager?
yes

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>>153312556
PES can be pretty fun really. Especially with the 4CC blenders.

>>153312556
I do
Yes, and I'm a better striker than most amateurs I play with
No but I love playing Trollball Manager
I used to be, and I'll probably come back if PES17 isn't just a diceroll.

>>153312602
yeah, I'm aware they were taking time away from their actual teams to test tactics using their other meme teams. Such a sacrifice!

>>153312556
I actually play Fifa and PES when I crave playing some fun sports games.

PES is an incredibly fun game, if less-accessible than Feefur.

Other than that, Rocket League has my interest but it doesn't -really- count.

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Can some of you #toplad insiders tell me if I've got the factional politics of all this straight?

So /4ccg/ loves Myuer because he initially wanted stat compression and lets the fagposters pretend he's a cute anime girl; the /ag//IRC DF puppets led by JB hate him because he was daring to be a contrarian and defy the Master's will; the neutrals resent him for claiming he was right all along after he abandoned the idea at the first sign of resistence; /ag/ wanted the most conservative rules changes possible because they thought they knew how to win under the current system; and the horsefuckers simply don't care because they'll volume test their way to victory under any system.

Do I have that right?

>>153313024
everyone was using the same set of teams did you actually read the past-

no you didn't you're just here to shitpost

>>153312556
Yes
Yes
No
No

>>153312780
>Playing PES the other day
>Make a long pass from the wing
>The other team's defender runs into the ball at full speed trying to intercept and sends it into the goal

Bravo Konmai

>>153312556
I used to play as a CB in high school. Only had 3 penalty kick goals and 12 assists.

I don't have PES tho and if I did I'd be managing /po/

>>153313104
/4ccg/ loves anyone who goes against big bad negroes running everything (Lear is not my commish :DD)
/ag/ hate /u/ and that extends to their management
horsefuckers don't give 1 single poo unless they're named BGP because they're too busy volume testing and killing the cup

>>153313104
Didn't /ag/ test new settings in the /ag/L only to be unceremoniously destroyed?

>>153312556
Only the multinational events, like the WC, CL and Euro.
Very rarely and I'm not very good.
No.
Used to be, on a coma until PES 17 comes out.

>>153313104
>Myuer
>he

>>153313104

100% right.

t. neutral

>>153313306
Who are you?

>>153313453
Just a guy who watches the cup for fun

>>153313716
>fun
get out

>>153313104
Myuer is a lesbian, not a he

>>153313104
But didn't the pony people want stats compression before Winter? Did they just abandon the idea after everyone ignored them the first time?

>>153313738
Are you doubting that meme magic is fun?

>>153313890
/rules/ would have stayed on GSBB if the /u/ or /mlp/ management suggested GGSS

>>153313938
>having fun
>posting in MY /4ccg/
who the FUCK do you think you are

>>153313964
Really stimulates your grey matter.

>>153313890
They decided it would be easier to just win the Cup than to get Lear to listen to them.

>>153313964
Has SSBB been tested?

>>153314209
>SSBB
>no G
>being tested by /rules/
nice meme dude

>>153314297
thanks ;^)

Why do we keep getting random faggots tripping for no reason lately?

>>153314297
You dolt, SSBB and stats compressed GGSS are the same thing

>>153313716
which team?

>>153314156
>we're here accusing /rules/ of some pretty massive favoritism given that their council has a /u/ and (former) /mlp/ manager in it
>nobody on /rules/ has even attempted to deny it
spun my mind's gears very much

>>153314475
Why would they deny it. Nobody listens to /4ccg/.

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>>153314410
I meant SSBB but without stat compression.

>>153314441
>which team?
/po/ is the team I root for day in and day out. But I also like watching how /ck/ and /o/ do when they play.

>>153312556
Yes
I used to but I play the Murrican variety now
I would if I had a controller
Yes

>>153315045
What's your thoughts on /ck/'s current manager situation?

You know, because you're treating this forum like your own personal interview and all.

>>153312556
Yes
No
Hell no
Used to be

>>153312556
Kind of
used to as a kid but no
I sometimes play with memes on coachmode if that counts
not yet

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>>153311662
>>153312547
>>153312650
It's not like to be a bitch or bitching, I just think of a group mentality sadly, if the majority wants something, I can't do much. I mean, it'd been a useless fight. You are kinda right, probably I'd have fight back. But sadly it's not in my mentality.


Also I really don't know what is this AB/u/ conspiracy.

Last thing, the "last minute changes" that were proposed and agreed by everyone were:
1) Manlet tier removed
2) The foot stuff

>>153312602
To be quite honest, BGP did testing with hidden sliders because he used the teams from /mlp/ friendlies. Instead the others used the sliders from the cup. (Even though someone ran a test cup with not setting proprely /m/.)

>>153315306
It's not looking good from what I see, not to mention that Nachos is no longer a part of the team. To me it looks like we may see /ck/ as Nuevo Elite no longer.

>tfw fucking /p/ will promote from this cup and /ck/ won't.

>>153315492
>To be quite honest, BGP did testing with hidden sliders
Fucking rigged. /mlp/ manipulated PES to give them an unfair advantage. #BanDarkbow #BanPMB #StripTheirStar

>>153315795
>/p/
>promote
pick exactly 1, one, uno, un, eins

>>153315795
Do you know internet personalities such as Art Vandelay, Socialspartan, Leo Usermane, and 190cm Master Race? Have you ever discussed football with any of them on 4chan?

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>still getting triggered by trips

I guess anonymous is still leejun

Who is this faggot?

>>153316470
le man of cardboard box with /po/ logo printed on

>>153316464
I searched implyingrigged for any mention of him and got nothing. Either he's an unverified manager who hasn't learned yet that you don't need a trip on for every post you make on /4ccg/, or he's an attention whore who think's he's "too good" for regular anonymous posting.

Also asuka a shit.

>>153315025
>spuh
Again?

>>153316707
he's the 1 /po/ fan who thinks he exists

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>>153315492
Just popping my head in here, but the height stuff wasn't last minute, we'd been discussing that since practically the start
It was more a pipe dream at the start with myself and carma wanting it changed because manlets are often left out, and more people agreed that it would be better to see more flexible rosters and less permabench players

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>>153315492
>I really don't know what is this AB/u/ conspiracy.
I do.

>>153315492
>half the rules council is actual AB/u/
more credibility than u think my man

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>>153316548
>>153316876
Yes

>>153316008
I've talked with Art before. He's an okay guy despite all the >Art being thrown at him

>>153317170
>likes >Art

You may leave now

>>153317170
this is you? lol

>>153316707
I've noticed that there is a small group of boards (like /a/ or /int/) that not only tolerate notorious tripfags, but even embrace them, so they see nothing wrong about making every single post with a trademark nickname and trip once visiting different boards.

>>153317170
you look like a mong and you act like one too

>>153317308
>projecting that I "like" Art

whatever you say (^:

>>153317460
>>153317541
The guy in the box isn't me, but that guy looks like someone I work with.

>it's a /4ccg/ gives unlimited amounts of attention to an annoying tripfag episode

I can hardly wait for the fanfics to start...

>>153317539
>I've noticed that there is a small group of boards (like /a/ or /int/)
>/a/
>tolerating tripfags
Most of them get told to fuck off immediately, especially Lelouch. The only tolerated ones are the ones who actually use a trip correctly - for contributing whatever (manga dumps, translations, etc).

>>153312556
Yes
Used to
Still play PES 2007 and 2012
Used to, and my era was shit

>>153318125
the sole fact that you remember any of them states otherwise. Telling tripfags to fuck off just fuels them. Only proper way of handling the problem is to not give any responses whatsoever and add to filter list.

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>>153318336
>Ignoring someone
>4chan

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>>153318336
>telling people to fuck off is the same as tolerating them

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>>153283184
More /4ccg/ relevant.

>>153318851
Did Boris lock himself in his cellar with Dusty again?

>>153318851
I assume this is a photo of Bors after the end of /mlp/-/m/

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>>153319083
FUCK OFF TRIPFAG

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>153318728
Yes it is. Mere act of acknowledging their input and existence encourages them. They post with trips over and over again to annoy people and receive as many FUCK YOU-flavored (you)s as possible. There are some boards that ignore tripfags no matter what they try.
Also I've seen some notorious tripfags on Jojo, One Piss, Bleach and many other /a/ threads. They were not only recognized, but even mentioned by anons even when not participating in those threads, so there has to be some level of positive acceptance too

>>153319408
>Also I've seen some notorious tripfags on Jojo, One Piss
>I've seen tripfags on the ultra-cancerous generals that plague /a/
Checks out

>>153319397
Hey, how do those chicken tendies taste, my friend?

who's your favorite tripfag, 4ccg?

>>153320273
190kg master race because i am also 190 kg

>>153319083
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is necessary to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

Protip: Don't trip if you don't need to
t. someone who always used to trip and everyone hated me for it
Just don't do it

>>153320758
Thanks for the tip! I'll be happy to remember it in the future!

>>153319708
>ultra-cancerous generals that plague /a/
Okay, if talking about actual manga is cancerous, let's see what else /a/ has to offer.
>20 "Do Japanese people like X?" threads
>30 waifu threads
>40 "what does she feel/smell like?" threads
>5000 loli threads
I guess /a/ is really not for me

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>>153321135
>Okay, if talking about actual manga is cancerous
>24/7 generals
>talking about manga
Do you not understand how generals work?

>>153321135
wow
I never knew /a/ was just /v/

>>153321681
/a/ "offseason" is usually one week long and there is a steady number of new people who recently started reading given manga and want to talk about older chapters. Meanwhile, /4ccg/ offseason is three months long and you have nothing but same 100 - 200 people mulling over /merit/, bronies, #toplads, test draws amd PES "quality", over and over again. You are here right now and you still dare to complain about other cancerous generals?

>>153322683
Cancer is cancer

>>153320984
Can you just fuck off please

>>153324879
Nice blog, you should have a tripcode

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>>153324879
Dude what?

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>page 9

Sometimes I wish I had friends

>>153327053
I'd be your friend anon, but there's no way to communicate with you without humiliating myself in front of the namefags.

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>>153327053
Someone said "wish"?

I am so bored

>>153327520
my nutbladder widens in anticipation

>page 9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i3riKvCYkM

Soon...

I'm back.

Is it time?

>>153329434
Yes

I don't believe in tripcodes.

I wish this was over. I think I'll quit... no, I'll make him quit. And you just... wanna hang in a few minutes to see how strong is he, you know, and then you... at times you have just tremendous amount of respect for the other guy. And you say, "Why don't I have respect for myself, too?" And, uh, now, we're in it. I'll just see if I can make the other guy give up, because I'm not gonna give up. I'm not gonna give up at all. I'm just gonna- no matter how much it hurts. Just gonna hang in there. Hang in there, and see if I can make something happen. If I could pull him over the edge or push him over the edge, make him decide that he's had enough. And you want him to hang on but you want him to give up. You want him to hang on as long as you can so that you know you've been in the contest but not so long that it makes you want to give up. And the harder... the harder it is, it starts to make you feel better, you start to get energy from it in a funny kind of way, in that it starts to feel good. The pain starts to feel good. 'Cause, you know the other guy's going through, you're saying, well, I can stand it, but... he can't. He just can't hang in there. I'll make him quit. I know I won't. No matter what, I won't.

>>153286572
I honestly think /zar/ works better.

Because >testing for multinats

>>153286572

I actually toyed with this idea and was seriously not impressed by it. While 99 strikers are unstoppable, 77 are plain bad. Don't be fooled by the occasional goal they manage to sink in; actually basing your offense on them is a bad idea, partly because of their stats, but also because of a reduced number of cards

I'm a formation with a Gold CF and two 77 SSs for the Fakkin boolsheet, and I can tell you than the 77s are merely assistants of the Gold CF and mainly score out of spaghetti, while the Gold scores out of proper set ups

Strikers needs to be medals because offense need more cards than defense and a stat advantage over defenders, but 99 is just too powerful

>>153331050

And I forgot to say: fixing things by formations is not the right way to do it, because people should be free to meme of be serious. The rulesets should allow experimenting, and I find the dismissing of the Moeshit cause "lol meme tactics" disingenuous...and counter productive since it just amounts to test cups with "properly set up 4-4-2 and 4-3-3" that aren't representative of how a cup actually happens (case in point; the 2016 Summer cup)

>>153331428
>/sora/ (4-2-2-2 no CF/SS)
>/keion/ (4-3-2-1 no medal striker gold defender)
>/kinmoza/ (2-5-3 no medal CF)
> /lucky/ (4-4DM-99CM-1)
Yeah mate future of football right there.

>>153331543

Your point being?

>>153331050
>>153331428
As the guy who actually made /hel/ it had good defence but would struggle if it fell behind because it didn't generate shots.

It's why /zar/ has a gold CF now.

The cup results for /hel/ aren't indicative because they were from a cup where form was set to 1, injury was set to 1 and all conditions were on purple.

The /zar/ export works much better but I'm still not sure how it would go against a decent team.

I'm a noob at PES

>>153331763
>As the guy who actually made /hel/ it had good defence but would struggle if it fell behind because it didn't generate shots.

That's exactly what I found out when I tried it myself; offense is toothless and won't be able to answer the inevitable spaghetti goal the medal defense will let slip past

>>153332154
Have you tried out /zar/?

That's the best I was able to get out of the idea of building a team on medal defenders but I'm not much of a manager.

The big issue there is that the midfielders get really gassed

>>153332790

I haven't, I dropped the medal backline pretty early, and instead tested the idea of medal DMF helping intercepting the attack before it reaches the backline, which served me well during /ag/L. I went with full medal forwards in the Multinational, however

In the early days I tested silver fullbacks and gold forwards; it didn't go well

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Rankings for the 2016 Summer Cup are completed.

>not pictured
59) 12.38 - /fa/ - 0 change
60) 11.25 - /lgbt/ - 0 change
61) 0 - /hm/ - 0 change
62) 0 - /ic/ - 0 change

>>153333291
Sure took your time

>>153333904
Was waiting on the regular dude to do it.

>>153333969
>not the real guy
REEEEEEEEEEE

>>153322454
The main difference is /a/ is far more self-contained than /v/ or at least it used to be, thanks moot, whereas /v/ gets lots of traffic from reddit and such.

>>153333291
>/m/ /o/ /v/ /mlp/

>>153333291
Watch as /mlp/ does some mental gymnastics to put themselves at #1 on the front page.

>>153334883
WINNING THE CUP TWICE SHOULD GIVE A RANKING BOOST OF +250

>>153334994
>>153334883
Give it another babby and /mlp/ will be on top.
I think

>>153312556
>Do you enjoy soccer other than 4CC?
Yes, I support and follow clubs in multiple leagues.
Do you play the actual thing?
I play football regularly with friends, and have over 1000 hours in Football Manager, as well as multiple real life football coaching qualifications.
Do you play PES?
No, but I'm a top 5% player in FIFA
Are you a cup manager?
Yes and I'm one of the worst ones here and it hurts

>>153308780
Use the Rance version

Soviets killed the emperors of Russia
Rance made the Empress of his Russia his sex slave

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>>153312556
Yes I like the team on the pic
Sometimes
No
Yes

>>153333291
>the only thing separating /sp/ and /a/ is the /d/

>>153312556
No
No
No
In VG league

>>153312556
Yes
From time to time
No
Yes

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>>153338407
>/d/
>separating

>>153312556
No
Yes
No
No

>>153334883
Doesn't winning the most recent major cup essentially mean that you're number one? Also, >rankings

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>page 9

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>>153333291
>/mlp/ was so shit this cup, they got surpassed by the teams they "beat" in the semis and final

>>153341886
/mlp/ only faced one team ranked higher, /u/.

>>153342097
>realize it's true
Really makes your neurons wriggle.

>153342279
(You) don't get how rankings work, do (You)?

>>153342097
>>153342279
those brains cells sure are rubbing together something fierce right now

>>153342097
wtf I love rankings now!

>>153341886

/mlp/ lost a lot of ranking points from Summer 2015.

>>153333291

>tfw you've finally begun to repair the damage you caused early on

>>153319408
>They were not only recognized, but even mentioned by anons even when not participating in those threads, so there has to be some level of positive acceptance too
I know that feeling. My general is beyond hope.

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>>153333291
>/m/ 1st
>the colony soaring higher than ever

What a time to be alive.

>>153333291
>/co/ lost two positions to ded teams
wew lad

>>153312556
Y. N. N. M

>>153324832
Ignore him.

>>153345712
>My general is beyond hope.
It was already beyond hope when it became a general. Just look at this place. Fucking tripfag central. People also talk about tripfags constantly, even when they're not here. All the tripfags also have their own circlejerks away from the general that they bring here too. Why Hiroshimoot hasn't deleted this hellhole yet is beyond me.

>>153346036
Because he doesn't delete, he creates

Time for /4cc/

/mygeneral/ chased off all the trips once they stopped translating

Feels good

>>153331543
Who needs strikers anyway? Wingers are the only true answer

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>>153346752
Reminder that history is cyclical and so football will come back to the golden age of 2-3-5

>>153346885

Sweepers back in PES when?

>>153347064
when literally a single football team in the entire world tries to use them again instead of a floating DM

>/mygeneral/ is dying
>the general i wanted to be my new general died after a month

why does everything I love doe?

>>153338423
Merc?

>>153346036
The problem with /a/ is some radical newfag keeps saying 24/7 thread as general as if they are interchangeable term.
> All the tripfags also have their own circlejerks away from the general
It always annoy me why people seek attention from people who disagree with them.

>>153346550
I envy.

>>153347257
It's your punishment for calling anything other than /4ccg/ your general.

Don't forget, you're here forever.

>>153347317
>The problem with /a/ is some radical newfag keeps saying 24/7 thread as general as if they are interchangeable term.

What is the difference then?