/evog/ - Evolve General

Just let it die

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>check the steam group
>the admin is higgus
>the autistic shitter that got literally kicked out of most /vg/ groups and clans for being "too autistic"

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There is no way we are going to be able to complete the community challenge

>page 10
>3 replies

holy shit this is dead

F

Other generals will never manage to be as dead as this shithole.

They literally had a second chance, and killed it in a month.

>>153208961
I never even played this game but rip my nigs.

>>153213656
But our telemerty says the game is more balanced than ever. We just don't understand? Don't people like balanced games? :^)

Oh, someone bothered to make the general again.

Any news on co-op becoming fun again?

>>153213764
You didn't miss much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OZeDS9TrO4

>>153214063
After the event where they say they may aswell take it out if they couldn't get people to play 100k matches of it for two skins and a free character.

>>153214335
>they say they may aswell take it out

Haha, no way they have said something like that.

The devs are shit, but they couldn't really be this retarded, right?

>>153215923
But co-op vs ai is taking games away from our hunter twitch mains you see?
We need to fix that and also make it so monsters can only be hurt within 5 meters.
Because hunters just weren't hunting them just sniping them from miles away totally unfun.

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Worth it desu

Tokyo Mirage Sessions general had more posters than this

Nothing to duscuss about this shit game anymore.
I guess sonic speed bot hunters are kinda laughable.
TRS, just kill it, stop trying. You've killed the game once, it's time to stop.

>>153213656
This is like the most sad part. Such a potentional, but horrible devs like this.

How many people are actually playing this? I only sign in once a day to get the daily but I've been thinking about uninstalling.
Although the Tribes bug is fucking great, I wish that was the normal movement. Remove jet packs completely, keep the climb, and make it to where you skate around fast as fuck normally.

>>153218785
That'd be shit against monsters with better verticality than bob or ryu though.

just had an extremely close game as gorgon, only won because I played like a little bitch
>half a bar of health left at the end
>this was after just barely running away with half a bar of health left at stage two, poison slowly ticking away at what little health I had
>only won because the assault got cocky towards the end, probably because he just wanted to end it.
Why can't close games like this happen more? This shit would've been fun even if I had lost.

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>Go to Turrtlerock forums and it's people bitching about how good hunters are, and how they need nerfs
>right under it is someone gloating about a 100 win steak on monster and everyone's acting like it's nothing because he was up against randoms
I don't understand

>>153221941
I don't have a LOT of hours in Evolve, but enough to get a basic handle of the game.

In my entire time in pay2play and free2play versions, I have had MAYBE two games that were close enough to be interesting.

>>153222612
Retards think that because it's a 4v1 they're superior to them when they at this moment have everything they need to just keep winning.

Most medics are useless under any focus dps, most supports pick kala unironically and feel surprised when they lose because they keep using the armor removal tool, most assaults are fucking pussies and most trappers have downs.

Monsters just have to handle their own ass and TRS already wiped it for them more often than not, but if they ever let up on their bitching TRS might make the game fun for the other four people playing it so they'll never shut up.

tl;dr: Monster mains are fags.

>>153222612
Everyone likes to think that
A) they're in the top .005% where hunters are genuinely better than monsters
B)They should balance for this .005%


>>153222709
New matchmaking comes Tuesday. Really hoping they don't botch it, but I already know they will given their track record.

>>153223135
>People play like retards so lets nerf Monster/buff Hunter
And suddenly battling people that actually know how to play the game (which should be the norm and what the game is balanced around) becomes far more difficult for the monster because the game was balanced around retarded idiots. This is the entire reason the game buffs one side or the other depending on if it's randoms or premades. People being retarded on your team or not knowing how to play doesn't mean hunters should be buffed or monster be nerfed.

>tfw older than Caira
feels bad man.

>>153223135
Is Kala bad? I've still got some hunters to buy why the fuck am I still playing this awful game but is she worth buying?

>>153225029
The reason this skill disparity even exists is because the game is designed like shit and does an even shittier job of teaching newbies how to play.

Yeah, you want to talk about balancing around only mic-using teams of four who are experts at flanking and trapping the monster? Be my guest, you're balancing around 10% of your playerbase and that WILL NEVER GROW.

>>153225035
She's awful in an uncoordianted team and ok in a coordinated team(although the other supports are much better in those situations). Since you're mostly going to be dealing with uncoordinated teams she's fucking terrible.

>>153225035
Kala is bad if you use her armor remover.
At this moment due to mechanics removing the monsters armor and letting health damage occur is just helping them leave the dome faster.

You should only do it if somehow you and a friend get together and the friends monster and everyone else left so you can farm "dome win" keys or some shit. She's below average but not absolute shit but only as long as you never use her armor remover tool.

>>153225029
Like even before all these buffs in the monsters favor I was winning with goliath against my founder friends with max perks and shit when my only perk was like the bronze feeding speed one because I wasn't a fucking idiot.

Now if I started picking monster all the time with how I have free goliath and free kraken to work with and these monster perks they threw out on daily log ins I'd probably manage a 100 win streak like any other shit twitch streamer.

>>153225403
>Kala is bad if you use her armor remover.

>guaranteed health damage is bad
Just don't be retarded when you use it

>>153208961
Here is the link to put yourself in the list, hopefully the next fagtard will put this in the post instead of the list!

>>153225694
Nigga, the dome is about the only time you're going to get two people close enough to the monster to do meaningful health damage.

And it isn't a matter of being retarded. Someone would have to be told using that drops the dome because it's certainly not intuitive.

Then again this game still wants everyone to solo dome because of that giant F TO DOME F TO DOME splayed across the screen.

>>153225862
at lest u tried

>>153225862
>>153208961

I'm the biggest fagtard to ever live. here is the link https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSebNqlzlk8Yfr3aKOpUhw7yL7q4QjX7GUkzAV2h5mE_qeZMiQ/viewform

>>153225694
You know a better way to guarantee your health damage.
By actually destroying the monsters armor and then damaging it you retard.

Current dome mechanics make it so using it just rips time out of how long the dome stays up and if you're using it all the time like most retarded kala pickers do you're just letting the monster keep their max armor while usually taking barely any actual health damage as they realize you have no way to stop them from just mauling the people trying to hurt it so your retarded decision to use a useless item equal to slims spore launcher looks slightly less fucking stupid.

Kala's armor removal tool needs to either not take time off of the dome when it allows for health damage or just weaken the monsters armor so it's removed better. If I wanted guaranteed health damage that bypassed armor I'd go Crow cause at least his shit isn't retarded and his kit isn't retarded.

tl;dr Kala is the worst for health damage because her tool gives all the armor back to the monster as soon as she gets tickled.

>>153222612
Hunters are good.

Hunter players are bad.

The story of evovle's life.

>>153226023
I didn't realize dome was up the entire game, thanks for educating me.

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>Play in a pub game
>10 mins in and we only domed the monster twice
>tell my teammates to follow me to get a buff and camp at the relay
>emet follows me
>kala goes to her purple portal to meet us by the relay (because fuck the buff that's why)
>trapper going after the gorgon
>gorgon evolves
>trapper domes
>purple portal melted in acid
>emet went after his teammates instead of putting a beacon
>I cri
>get called a pussy

What's driving me nuts that whoever called me a pussy has like 1.5K hours into the game

>>153226353
Just pick Crow if you want to damage the monsters health through its armor retard, her tool is like a shit cabot damage amp but worse.

>>153226486
Except it serves a different purpose than the damage amp. Damage amp is for sustained fights while armor remover is for brief periods of combat, hence why it's on a character that can place teleporters on the map.

Then again you think several seconds of damage being applied directly to the monsters health not counting against the dome timer is balanced.

>>153228113
With how they keep nerfing assault damage?
Yeah sounds pretty balanced after all these changes.

But knowing TRS they'll just reduce Kala's armor reducer ammo and keep it being useless, which it is.

It has shit range, requires Kala to sit her ass next to the monster, uses ammo just reducing the armor, and then the armor immediately jumps back to max.

It's useless compared to just taking the monsters armor down normally or using Crow's charged rifle blast and has no purpose in the dome or out of the dome.

>>153228397
I keep forgetting this is the same place that thought Parnell was bad

>>153225403

Kala is fucking garbage but not solely because of her Armor Reducer. She's garbage just like Cabot because of the fact that she has no extra defensive capabilities besides her shield burst. Her teleporter is never getting used in pubs due to the lack of communication and knowledge of the general pub player. Her armor reducer is not completely useless. It has its uses, namely under the circumstance that the monster reaches stage 3 and comes back for a fight but with little health and full armor. It's useful at deterring faggot monster play where the monster delays by continually dodging the dome and coming back at full armor.

>>153228549
Nah Parnell's great.
Kala has a useless item.
All there is to it.

holy fuck this thread is up again?

why make it barely 4 hours before it hits EU hours where its guarenteed to die?

>>153224204

New match making? Is that gonna make it so I can fight my friends in normal games or is still gonna be that faggy "Earn fewer/no rewards if you duel friends" shit?

Just wondering if that game is gonna be worth installing soon...

>>153228549
>>153228113
Kala is utter shit, shitter.

Nobody seriously considers her viable.

There is no known public strats with her

Feel free to prove me wrong anytime. Show us that sikrit 3l33t technique with Kala

Go on nig

>>153228805
I never said that she was good, I'm merely saying that her armor removal tool isn't complete shit like you think it is.

>>153228764
If you mean be in a group and still play monster yeah, that'll be an option if you're willing to put up with retards not voting cataclysm and overpowered out

>>153228749
I was honestly waiting til the update dropped to make a thread again. I'm surprised someone tried before then

Kala is perfectly balanced according to trs, so make sure you bring her into every game you play.

When this game hits stage 3, if it ever does, the playerbase will sink back down to the hundreds.

>>153211590
it explains why the group is so dead and badly managed

>>153226373
pusi ass bitch

>>153231124
it's still in beta stage 2 lol not even proper stage 2

face it evolve is kill

>>153235493
>not even proper stage 2

I really hope that isn't true and they don't plan on doing another set because if it is true, that is fucking sad.

Okay so what the hell am I doing wrong? When i'm playing as Hunter, I can never seem to jet up cliffs with a monster on me. As monster, people can seemingly jet up with impunity even as i'm hitting them.
In both cases, what do I need to do?

>>153236072
Double tap space with no direction held.

>bot jack
>never seems to run out of repulsor
>play jack yourself
>your repulsor is disabled/gone if the monster as much sneezes in your general direction

>>153236342
bots run under their own conditions. they have twice as much jetpack, more health, and they can rubberband and warp to get to places they're supposed to be.

evog......premade........when......

>>153238240
lol

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>>153234462
by all means, anon, i'll delete the current steam group right now and you can manage a new one, i'll do it if someone replies to this post giving me the go-ahead

i personally don't play evolve that much any more and if you feel like simply making a new steam group will fix all your problems feel free to make a new group and advertise it in the thread

>>153230186

Holy fuck thank god. I might actually reinstall this thing now.

But I swear to god if I pick monster and my friends pick hunters and I kick there ass and I get fewer rewards/fewer keys FOR ANY FUCKING REASON it's instant uninstall.

There has GOT to be a better way to duel friends as a monster and not get punished for it without breaking the game. I don't know what it is, don't care to think of a way, but I see no reason to play this game if they can't fucking think of one.

I get that people were abusing the system or whatever the fuck. But fuck that and fuck them. I want to murder my friends as a giant spider. It's my fetish.

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>have a coop event
>the update that enables the event also introduces annoying bugs into coop

>>153243717
>They won't extend coop event
>They'll probably fuck up fixing the bugs
>They'll probably end up removing coop entirely under the claim that they're going to work hard fixing it

>play hunt
>2 premade hunters on my side use the exploit to get massive movement speed to catch up to the monster and dome him fast
>monster can't catch up to them to do anything in the dome for minutes
>tell them they are faggots and I wont help them since they
>they flip out and act like I am the cancer
>they whine to the monster to kill me
>tell the monster my reasons for not helping them is because they are using an exploit to gain an unfair advantage against him and I am only balancing it out
>monster agrees with the premade faggots that I am the bad guy here
>they want to report me

Wew
What makes this more hilarious is that the next game I had the monster play crying whole game that somebody was cheating but when asked who or how he said "I DON'T KNOW"

This game is beyond dead and this community is beyond fucked.

>>153244676
But thank god TRS is going to keep nerfing slim and hank to make sure the monsters don't suffer toxic gameplay.

>>153244676
What the hell is this exploit and why haven't the devs fixed it?

>>153225161
>and does an even shittier job of teaching newbies how to play.
This is the problem that needs to change, players need to be taught how to play the game better. The game itself shouldn't have it's balance changed because people don't know how to play.
>balancing around only mic-using teams of four who are experts at flanking and trapping the monster
It's a team based game, if people aren't communicating and working as a team, you should expect to lose. You don't even need a mic, just understanding your role and knowing what to do in different situations is more than enough for randoms to go against a monster of equal skill, but nobody ever knows what to do, mostly because the game never explains it.

>>153244768
but they made a hotfix patch just before the weekend (weekend is when they don't want to work), it fixed AI related speed bugs! it says so in the patch notes
quit being so toxic and critical! TRS can do no wrong

deda geam

>evog is sometimes alive only because some people wants to say that game is shit and dead
TRS, please. I don't know, delete this game from steam. Let's all just forget about this game.

>Planned to play Evolve to take part in the co-op event
>Matchmaking broken and had to watch the same people "leaving and coming back for the next matchup"
>Gave up trying

Hopefully there's still people playing though. Nothing like drinking beer and playing Evolve with your friends every now and then.

>>153208961
There's no point of using lazarus device anymore tbqh

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>>153245145
Yeah. The sad thing that you have to realize is that the game is (or was) smarter than your average Evolve-player.

I mostly played Evolve with a group of 3 with one random, and most of the time it was enjoyable. And yeah, there wasn't that much of communication involved really. As you said, a lot of it comes down to knowing your role and situational awareness.

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>match against a Wraith as crow
>no communication between team yet we split up into pairs to corner the monster with one ahead one behind
>spread out when it evades us then pounce once everyone has converged
>it's a slaughter of the poor waifu monster

So this is competence power, huh? Not bad.

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aaaaaaaaahahahaaahaaha

this is sad

Are there actual character skins for

Nordita
Union Jack
Predator
Infinity
Sword
Arctic
Leviathan
Savior
Victory
Night Hunter
Phoenix
Bushman

?

>>153255290
Weirdly... i think not.

But most hunter skins have one or two weapon skins that go well with them.

>>153256023
I really want night hunter and victory character skins

nordita mite b cool, too

>>153252949
There was a 1 000 000 games in the first place, right? They're change it later to 100 000?

>>153239769
Make me a moderator and let me try to do my best to save it.

>>153257842
It was always 100k

>>153239769
this is an autistic response

>>153258275
name?

>>153260450
silikone

holy fuck the thread actually manage to stay alive past eu hours

good luck with na hours though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_QCxExtOMM

>>153261036
Really makes you think.

>co-op doesn't award win streaks anymore
and the game is dead

gg TRS play your "muh 50/50" with your 100 active players

>game dying
>that means no more lewds
ITS NOT FAIR!!!

>>153264668
trying to force 50/50 via constant nerfs is absolutely retarded considering how many new players are (or were in this case huhuehuehuehue) shit and don't know all the necessary basics of the game when too much of the useful info is not available in the game itself and has to be searched online and/or learned over time

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>>153264773
>no futa kala

Why does TRS think anything with 'VS AI' will help to make the game more interesting? Why not focus solely on the (more fun) pvp aspects?

>>153252949
They didn't multiply the wins as 4 per-player like with the last event, otherwise it would've well exceeded the 100,000 mark at 172,052 wins.

Of course, they only did it before to make it look like hunters were winning at something :^)

>>153267139
Maybe they will balance hunters vs AI. Balance hunters vs (player) monster is imposible...
Anyway the game is not good enough to succed in this state.

>>153252949
Is the event still on?
Where could I see this progress panel?

>>153269129
honestly the main problem is that the devs seem desperate to make this an esport, which given the current climate seems to be a terrible idea, especialy since making an asymetrical 4v1 competitive game would be a balance nightmare for even the best dev team, let alone TRS.

>account level increase +25 coming
>when account levels don't matter in matchmaking anymore
>and keys are given easily
>no character level increase when you could just easily max them in the recent OP weekend event

TRS has too many shit for brains women working there

>>153271839
At level 40 you already unlock the elite skins, what can come after elite?

>>153273192
heroic and legendary skins maybe?

>>153273192
>>153274145
Account level will be 75 max. Character level will stay at 40.

Shitter here, if you're playing with pubs what's the most useful hunter I could pick to play to be of the most help?

>>153274864
why are you posting this? we know and we are discussing what would come after elite

>>153275081
Hank for sure. he's good and just about anyone is better than kala who is pretty popular for some reason

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>>153270112
Yeah. Here's the thing. The game was a certain way before 2.0 and they had put work to making the game balanced for that particular "version". Sure, they had made a couple of mistakes in that balancing but mostly the game worked pretty well.

I remember thinking "wow, this game is pretty enjoyable as it is, hope they make this a f2p with a bit of new content like hunter skins so we can get more players to play with.

And then they went and reworked the classes and tweeked the gameplay to better suit that and the new "dumber" player base.

All i can hope at this point is that i get a year or two to still enjoy what's left of this game before it finally goes belly up. The game still has it's charm even though it does feel a lot (and pointlessly) simpler after the meta-overhaul. The new hunters are really nice though.

>>153275314
Kala has a sexy kit. So naturally people are gonna look at it and think to themselves that they are gonna make hot plays with her.

Sadly, Kala is also a difficult hunter to master. So naturally, there's gonna be a lot of shit Kala players around.

>>153275674
the teleporter can be okay and so can the armor reduction but the issue is you can only get their full potential with coordination which you're most likely not going to get from randoms. so in 9/10 games Hank is going to be the better choice imo

>>153275314
Ok, any other solid hunters?

Another thing, I'm not the type to carry but I've been complimented in the past for being a good support. I can sometimes be a good enough support with revives/etc that a shit team can see success, what's a good hunter or tips for that in this game?

>>153275376
I will never understand why they didn't make arena the default mode, it's exactly what they wanted in a fast paced e-sports friendly mode, its easier to balance since its much more limited in scope, and they could have kept the old hunt as is and called the new hunt pursuit or something.

So we'll still get Paladin Parnell right?
I know the game's dead but there's no way they wouldnt just drop him

>>153276703
maggie can be a good trapper for that. if the monster doesnt focus down the dog it can go around and revive team mates most noob or stupid monster players don't bother with the dog

>>153278402
Yeah, they are never "holding the new hunters hostage", i'm pretty sure this was about if they will make paladin parnell free for everyone, now just legacy players (like me) will get him for free.

>>153276703
Good, beginner friendly and non team mate dependent characters are
Assault: Markov, Hyde
Medic: Val
Support: Hank
Trapper: Abe, both griffins, crow

There characters listed that are still good, but I feel are more difficult/perk reliant(eg Parnell, emet, jack), or team comp reliant(eg bucket, Cabot)

With the exception of wasteland Maggie none of the trappers are truely bad, however it is noticably easier to use the ones I've listed (crow and Abe especially) than jack or even Maggie

>>153280040
There are characters not listed*

>>153214137
>posting that shit quality
>not posting the superiour version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M4RwGwQslM

Laz

Anyone tried wasteland maggie in the new co-op map?

I imagine her doggo's flamethrower might actually do some damage to all the spoder shits just by virtue of their swarming nature.

I can't be assed to actually log in and play to try it out myself though, since the rest of co-op is a buggy shitshow, still.

>>153289639
waggie and her dog have been nerfed by a 75% reduction to her damage since she was released, she's fucking useless even when she works.

>>153289865
Haha what the fuck? It's really that bad?

What the shit were they thinking?

>>153290236
"It's really toxic that monster players can die"

>>153290236
it used to be 12 per bullet, with 50 DoT (though they confirmed that the 50dot was a bug and was supposed to be 25) her harpoon trap armed in 2.5s and had a range of 35m. daisy did 20dps but lost 33% of her health to balance it out.

now it's 3 per bullet with 12 dot, harpoon traps are 3.2s arm time with 20 or 25m of range and daisy is down to 5dps

>>153290764
>3 per bullet with 12 dot, harpoon traps are 3.2s arm time with 20 or 25m of range and daisy is down to 5dps

I have no words for how retarded this is.

And Daisy doesn't even actually deal that 5dps because her AI makes her avoid the monster.

Holy shit.

>>153290942
check out OG wasteland maggie before the nerfs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mK4L7ZQkeg

>>153291715
Pretty crazy in an isolated arena, yeah, but that's definitely not how things would have worked out in hunt.

Either way, overnerfing wasn't a fucking solution.

>>153245145
See, the thing is it's not just in the teaching. I think Evolve is fundamentally busted in a bunch of autistic ways that make it really intuitive. You can write the most exact tutorial but when your game is a kludgy, convoluted mess where all the skill and meaningful decisions happen in the weird edge case moments, you will NEVER have a playerbase that really gets the game of any real size.

>>153291715
what the fuck is this map and gamemode

>>153267139
L4D was better in vs AI than it was in versus.

But then again this ain't as good as L4D.

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>>153296121
>L4D was better in vs AI than it was in versus

>>153267139
There's 2 ways to make a f2p game successful they can either make it goofy and fun like TF2 or very serious and competitive like CSGO. Currently, TRS is taking the later approach which obviously isn't working. This game can be TONS of fun if it becomes goofy and fun. Imagine 2 Monsters and VS 3 Medics, or 2 monsters against each other.

>>153296008
arena's been in stage 2 the entire time. Its just hidden under custom games
I forget which map it is but we'll probably never see it come back

>>153275081
It's damn near impossible to fuck up Markov. Val is also good. Caira is great but you have to keep situational awareness to aim her heal grenades and if the monster is sodomizing you and you can't shake him, you got no good answers. Abe and Crow are strong if you remember to keep switching to your slowmo options. The monsters that can't just completely ignore slowmo can get TOTALLY shut down by it.

>>153296121
objectively shit opinion

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>>153297025
>>153296293
Stay mad niggers

>>153296604
I was playing Maggie in a few rounds and everytime I'd drop the net to close him in, he'd turn and run train on me. I could NOT get away.

Any tips on not getting wombo combo'd everytime the monster looks at you?

>>153298907
Play Abe or Griffin instead since eventually they'll just make it so monsters doing anything will break maggie's hooks to make up for there being up to three of them at once

>>153298907
Your jetpack dodge is there for a reason, but apart from getting up and down walls, there's not much you can do to stop a dedicated monster except if you're able to dazzle him enough that he loses track of you long enough for the medic to fix you up and I don't think that's a science.

>>153299095
Yeah I couldn't even figure the purpose of them. In the tutorial I remember the hooks made clear lines and could be triggered from range and slowed you down, with three to a useless crawl.

In the game I don't even see them triggering ever. I'll drop net and switch to the hooks to drop some between us and then back up so he'll go through them, and he does then smashes me like a kindergarten german girl raping an adult syrian immigrant

>>153299495
I use the dodge, like when he's in a predictable melee range I'll dodge around but it's like a combo of move tracking and the game letting him hit me where I was rather than am plus when he does hit me directly I slow to a crawl and usually can't see anything

>>153298907

Just play Jack then. Jack is the hardest trapper to solo target since his repulsor works in his direction. But, I don't see how you are getting targeted in the first place, the monster should be targeting the medic or support.

>>153299574
Maggies hooks take fifty years to activate after being set and can be destroyed by fucking anything so it's better to just use griffin or abe instead since their options are just entirely better in group or solo play.

>>153299826
It's just one dude two rounds in a row. but I was the first one on the monster both times and would immediately drop the net to trap him and bust out my hook gun to lay traps.

>>153300017
If you're first on the monster, and you immediately hit F to dome, go walk out into the street and kill yourself.

You don't have to even pull up the map and count the distance between you and the teammates and do trig while the monster is trying to rape you, just let the SECOND guy dome. Having the gang there will keep you safe.

But yeah, it's like I said, dodge helps, but a monster that is focusing on you is going to down you unless your medic+support are on point. And they seldom are. And if it's not Val on medic, then their healing depends on you standing in a specific spot usually and that's... a little difficult when you're being made to star in "Poor Little White Hunter 6" as the white one.

Dodge, climb up walls and jump off and climb again to try to minimize exposure, make sure if you have the monsters attention not to be the first to dome it if you sped ahead... If you can eyeball your medic, try to stay within line of sight without kiting to the medic. If you can eyeball the assault, kite to the assault...

You'll still die, of course. But you can buy a lot of time for your team if you can pull off some of those.

>The Assault has died
>The monster has been domed
OF ALL THE TIMES TO DOME

RESIST THE GIANT F YOU FAGS

>poison grenade
>poison dart gun
>poison shotgun with alt fire
Oh look yet another hunter with four options that more or less mandate looking up DPS data to figure out which one should be favored in what circumstances.

Fuck off with this shit Turtle Rock.

>>153304154
180.1 dps with shotgun leftclick alone(.1 higher than markovs lightning gun dps excluding recharge time), 196 dps with right click alone, all together the dps is 232ish(+/-3dps) this is assuming you don't miss any pellets but you also don't hit any headshots and is also factoring in reload time.

he's basically a markov that trades mine damage for chase damage and a slightly weaker DR class ability along with the 7.5% increased team damage and 5% reduced monster damage

>>153305052
>he actually had the data
absolute madman

Jesus fucking christ this game is a mess
All they had to do was make it f2p
not turning into eSport bullshit with high pitched sci-fi sound effects and a retarded announcer that never fucking shuts up
The immersion and awesome alien feel of the original game is completely gone

>>153299574
>switch to the hooks to drop some between us and then back up so he'll go through them

>I am dropping deployables right in front of the monster while alone

>How oh how is he finding and destroying them

Her harpoons work fine if you aren't braindead in your placement (and your play in general), but griffin is better anyway because you have more control over what the harpoon does.

>>153306709
his chase damage assuming you refresh the moment the dome goes down is a guaranteed half a bar of health, if you can refresh everything 8 seconds later it's another half bar each time you do so. Note this is unavoidable damage.
Assuming you stay on his ass the entire time it's .75 of a bar every 5 seconds instead of .5 a bar every 8s

That's a lot of fucking chase damage.
I recommend pairing him with a sunny, electro, and a val to maximize slows and weakpoints. Laz also works since he places significantly more weakpoints that are 15% amp instead of 25% so use your own discretion..

>>153307451
I'm not confused how he's finding me, I just am shocked at how quickly he destroys me. No chance for escape.

>>153310042
Maggie's harpoon traps are destroyed by literally any damage and take a bit to arm. A goliath swinging at you will keep destroying every trap you place in front of him, or if he charges, or if he flame breathes, or if it's in splash range of leap or rock. Best thing is to try to figure out places out of the way that can still trap him. The issue is figuring out where to place them that will actually restrict the monster from going after people and then doing that ahead of time due to arm delay.

>>153310042
that's probably due to the huge amounts of hunter nerfs. Maggie has had 3s of reload time added to her harpoon and they take 3s LONGER to arm than they did on launch. She also has lost out on 5m of range and 2 harpoons. (she used to be able to place 5)

pretty much every hunter except Emet, Crow, and markov, are now watered down versions of their original selves due to how horribly they've been nerfed compared to launch.

>>153310943
Wow, that sucks because I kind of liked her too. I like the harpoon idea.

On the other hand, after a few rounds with Abe and the other old dude who has a leash, I'm liking them a lot too, just not so sure about their shotguns.

Laz revive

Trs stop

When does Paladin Parnell drop?

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>>153322102
12-14 hours from right meow.

Any tips for gorgon? I trying to git gud at her and some advice would help.

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>2000 players right now

>>153324675
Ignore Mimic
Toss spiders behind hunters so they have to turn around to shoot it. Helps against assaults like Blitz Markov and Hyde
Focus hunters taken by spiders
Spit won't stop people from reviving
Wall pounces are risky. Learn what walls you can actually cling to before trying to do it. Its not that big of a gain anyway

>>153296121
kys, idiot

i havent played in forever
is wraith still broken

>>153326430
Wraith's just okay now
Game balance in general is all sorts of fucked though

>>153326430
wraith is absolute shit tier now along with gorgon

>>153326703
whats the strongest monster then
and what do you mean the balance is fucked
hasn't it been that way since the beginning

>game can't even hold 5k peaks anymore

lmao

I'm gonna hold out till Paladin Parnell, and if he ends up being straight trash (which he most likely will be), I'm quitting this game. This whole week has been a joke with TRS actively killing their game by waiting till the next patch to fix fucktarded bugs and releasing joke "hotfixes" that actually do nothing.

>a new silver key earn rate comes with the next patch

for fuck's sake TRS don't buff that shit again, most people are already swimming in keys with nothing to spend them on and at this rate even if you by some miracle get so far that you can monetize the game it won't be worth it

fucking idiots

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>release a huge coop event
>coop is bugged to shit, every coop match taking 30 minutes every time because of forcing timeouts and sonic goliaths
>nerf every single hunter in every category every single patch, even the big coop patch where you can only play hunters for the duration of the event
>'claim' you've released a bugfix that has absolutely done nothing, except delude the steam forums. I could launch the game right now and find a bugged Goliath wavedashing across the map
>Oh right, and the new map is so fucking boring people are now actively dodging/vote-skipping it
I'm honestly astonished.

How can a single Dev team fuck up this hard in every single way? What possible fucking thing could they do to make this game even more of an unplayable mess?

Holy fucking shit, if this is the track record for this Dev team so far, I fear for Behemoth. He's already kind of hard to play against all the Tinkerbell hunters, mostly because every single perk that isn't flight and hover is worthless, so this new 'iteration' is going to be so utterly garbage it'll successfully kill the game for good.

https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/unimaginably-frustrated-with-this-weeks-patch/101036

>I trust TRS, they're pretty good at making the right choice. ^^

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>153330660
if that guy wasn't some kind of streamer fag they would have banned him pretty quickly

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>1900

>tfw your coop "team" is so retarded it's better to force domes down and let the time run out and just stop playing and start sniping wildlife

>>153334292
oh and they're french gmod players
fucking frogs are a russian tier plague on evolve tbqh totally fucking garbage at the game, possibly muslim niggers

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8:46Maniacsquirell : We are refactoring slim right now
8:47SiMonagner : @maniazsquirell in what ways are you changing him?
8:48Maniacsquirell : Bunch of stuff. How the pellets work, how his CA works, replacement for spore
8:48Maniacsquirell : I can slow down EG when he is pooning
8:48Fresh_89 : thats a good idea brandon
8:48Fresh_89 : we need somehting like that
8:49Fresh_89 : start with slowing down his ms while pooning
8:49Fresh_89 : or make him grounded while pooning
8:49Maniacsquirell : Are people dancing around with it?
8:49Fresh_89 : thats my ideas
8:49Fresh_89 : yes they do
8:49Maniacsquirell : Not gonna fully ground it
8:49Fresh_89 : and thats the big problem right now
8:51Maniacsquirell : I agree Hank is the problem
8:51Maniacsquirell : pretty much all the time
8:51Maniacsquirell : But we are changing how the pellets work
8:52Maniacsquirell : So you will get the same amount of CA back between big and small targets
8:53Maniacsquirell : Also
8:53Maniacsquirell : and this is huge
8:53Maniacsquirell : actually
8:54Maniacsquirell : I am not gonna say anything
8:54Maniacsquirell : :D
8:54Fresh_89 : maybe even lower e-griffs jetpack thrust brandon
8:54SiMonagner : fricking tease :P
8:54Maniacsquirell : thrust on what?
8:54Maniacsquirell : just on everything?
8:54Fresh_89 : while pooning

>>153336478

MY GOD.

It's funny that it's taken them this long to rework Slim. And more E.Griffin nerfs and Hank whining? At this point, Hank is going to be giving shield to the the monsters instead of players.


Also, I'm retarded or something but what does CA mean?

>>153336747
Class Ability

>>153336478
noticed the Slim rework earlier on the trello board but it's good that they are replacing the spore launcher with something that might be viable because the spore shit does fucking nothing but block your view a bit

>Hank is a problem

TRS balancing team is the real problem here

In order for TRS to understand how badly they keep fucking up the game needs to go below 1k players

Then they will start to move.

Oh wait.

it happened once and didn't help because they are incompetent fags kek

>>153336478
It still hurts knowing that they pumped out all these variations and gimmicks before fixing the literally non-functioning aspects of their game
RIP Behemoth, murdered by TRS's incompetence

>>153337563
t. monsterwhiner

Post Caira.

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>>153336478
>Hank is the problem

>half of the Kingsglaive in
>still in queue

__D
_KEK
DED
_KEK
__D

How the fuck does trs keep nerfing hank yet still leave behind useless supports like t hank and sunny in the trash

Hank too toxic for monsters?

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>>153339815
Hank's shield burst should restore monster armor.