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Lizardmen Edition

>The Grim and the Grave
[YouTube] Total War: WARHAMMER - Grim & The Grave Official Trailer (ESRB) (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
http://store.steampowered.com/app/404013/

>Call of the Beastmen
http://store.steampowered.com/app/404012/
http://www.gamesdeal.com/total-war-warhammer-call-of-the-beastmen-dlc.html (Cheaper)

>Patch notes
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Update_2

>FAQs & General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN (embed)

>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Total War Warhammer Mods
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

>IS CALL OF THE BEASTMEN WORTH BUYING?
The Beastmen are a cool faction but the pack is a bit overpriced for what you get. There probably won't be a price drop for some time, so if you really like the Beastmen then go ahead, otherwise wait it out.

>OVERCASTING SPELLS
Double click a spell (it needs to be a boostable spell and you need to have enough magic in the magic pool) to overcast the spell
There's a 50% chance that the caster damages itself though!

>QUEST BATTLE TELEPORT
Select your lord (make sure not garrisoned or in a stance)
Select the quest battle (on the map or through quest log)
There's a button in the bottom right of the quest battle window that you can use to teleport for 5k gold (when the battle's finished you're automatically teleported back to your original position)

>GROUP ATTACK
Group units with ctrl + g
Select your group and right click the enemy
All your units move and automatically direct themselves to engage enemies they get close to while maintaining formation

old >>153030502
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>>153088647
Rollan!
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Vampire chans feet!!!
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Where is Vampire Chan.
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>>153088647
4th for Lizard Genocide

also you fucked up the Grim&Grave Youtube link
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>>153088817

BIG

VEINY

TITS
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>>153088817
Once we get elves thankfully well get more women.
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Why do I love Vlad so much?
It's pretty simple when I think about it.
Vlad isn't just the best character in the Warhammer world, he might just be the greatest character of all time.
Just imaging him riding through the swamps of Sylvania, the wind in his hair, his mighty steed below him.
As he rides through the World's Edge Mountains, the Lahmians swoon at his very scent.
They know how he smells, the essence of his smell is sold in Marienburg under the the name of "Carstein Orgasm."
The very nature of Vlad is mystery.
Could he be playing a deeper game than even his creator realizes?
The answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and has free will to do whatever he sees fit.
However, Vlad is filled with such guile, such arcane craft that he does not even use these powers.
Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of the Vlad is not one that is easily penetrated.
Vlad is such a force of nature in his realm that nothing can truly touch him, the only thing keeping him bound to the page at all is his will to exist within the preordained boundaries of his world.
Vlad is not only beyond the comprehension of us, he exists within a plane of true focus and beauty.
Observe his playful smile, his gorgeous and rippling biceps, his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes.
His eyes, like pools of saffron, provide the only glimpse into the true machinations of Vlad. Do not stare into them. Many good men have gone mad in the attempt.
Vlad is not just a character, a formless collection of words and images, he is himself is the binding that holds the Warhammer world together.
Without Vlad, the entire Warhammer world, the entire Games Workshop as we know it crumbles.
The Reik would stop flowing without Vlad, Athel Loren would become a desolate crater, and Norsca would melt without his frosty gaze.
These are just of a few of the reasons why I like Vlad so much.
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>>153089007
None of them will be as cute as Vampire-chan!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jn7SSBiFoE

Ha
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>>153089153
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>vampire counts, averland, chaos forces declares war
>invited by greenskins
Just when I thought the ai was improved. I fucking hate this campaign ai
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>>153089257
fuck off Fitz.
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>>153089303
play on easy or normal if you can't handle the ai bantz
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>>153089394
>implying he'd promote his long abandoned channel
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Vlad official reveal where?
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>>153089557
CA Facebook.
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>>153089303

>ca
>ever fixing campaign AI
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>>153089486
>play on easy or normal if you can't handle the ai bantz
>it's okay for the ai to break lore!
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>>153089664

>Kislev tells of Grimgor about this enemy that needs a proppa crumpin

Nothing wrong with that.
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>>153089664
I can buy it when it is in historical games. But that shit is just retarded.
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>>153082316
This is a company that is too cheap to model bannermen, unit officers, and portraits without massive amounts of clipping. Too cheap to pay for good music, different campaign advisers, proper voice acting for the different factions. Too cheap to make unique maps for each quest battle, actual event chains/quest chains like in king arthur games. They're too cheap to animate units getting into or being inside of siege towers, reloading/using siege weapons or things like canons and battering rams, heroes/lords/monsters fighting. They're too cheap to make unqiue and detailed siege maps, fucking seasons, proper diplomacy, or an actually decently sized campaign map with plenty of villages and cities to fight over and in. They were even too fucking cheap to even have village maps.

They aren't going to put any more effort in again anon because they have zero competition.
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>>153089847

I know, I found it funny. What's funnier is that I hadn't had any interactions with either faction. You can see on the map that I have only uncovered them because I've been to adjacent regions. Greenskins confederated some tribe right next to me, which discovered them for me and I imagine Kislev, too.
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>>153089495
FOK OF FRITZ'
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what are some must have tw wh mods?
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>>153090454
Radious, better camera, conquer anywhere, full plate empire, no floppy hats. home region movement bonuses, Kislev units, Southern Realms, Bretonnia
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>>153090454

Radious Total Units mod
Level 60 maximum level cap
Conquer Anywhere
No aggressive agents
Tier 4 minor settlements
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This is a sad turn of events...

We Takeda do not like failure.
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>>153090606
What's wrong with tier 4 minor settlements? Makes the AI way stronger.
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>>153090606
>>153090550
Nice try but nearly all those mods are incompatible with each other
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>>153090550
>>153090606
ty
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>>153090606
>no aggressive agents
Fuck you memer agent spam is cancer
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>>153090550
>no floppy hats
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>>153089796
It's just an ai prank, bro!
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>>153090736

I know, I was just memeing. It's much stronger in the hands of a player, though, like any mod.

>>153090454

If you want actual good mods, I use

Tier 4 Minor Settlements
Home Region Movement bonus
Full Cost March Stance
Chaos Divided
Beastmen Evolved
Better AI Recruitment and Army Composition
Better Camera Mod
UI Unit Markers
Legend Lord Unique Start Position [not yet updated for 1.2]
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Why has GMG removed several TW titles from their store? Anyone know why?
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>>153090550
>>153090606
> Radious
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>Finally beat back enough chaos/norsca stacks to get kislev some breathing room
>Went off to finally raze the bearsongling camp because fuck them
>Archaon's host arrives
>Marrenburg and Moussoulin have split brettonia and are making a land grab for Empire clay forcing me into yet another front
>still have yet to meet a single dwarf

I think this army was in ostland for literally a single turn and has not once been back home yet.
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Really CA? An event devoted to your idle malpractices regarding DLC?
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>>153089276
This just looks like the scowling master necromancer to me
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>>153091235
I keep seeing screenshots where people have the hats in the portraits for generals, is this from a mod or something? Cause I def dont see that shit in the game
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>Start vampire count campaign
>Game crashes
ok
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>>153090997
thanks i'll take a look
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What is the best mount, and why is it the Chaos Manticore?
>Mobility
>Cool animations with large AoE
>Doesn't get bogged down like dragons, etc.
>Poison attacks
>Rider can have a shield which confers block chance for ranged attacks
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>>153091372
YOUR PC WAS WEAK
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>>153091361
I'm using varied generals
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>>153088817
Should be cut off
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>>153091661
Oh, I guess thats from the non-strict version. My autism can't handle the battle models swapping every time
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>>153088945
>reddit rats
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How do I get this nigger to come out of the Chaos Wastes? I just want to win this stupid campaign.
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>>153092683
Just go there
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>>153090118
We all saw it the first time anon. It really wasn't worth posting twice.
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how will the battlepope fight people from on top of his volkswagen? it's too tall,thorgrim has enough trouble as it is
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>>153093045
He slams into them and swings at them with his staff
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>>153093045
He will yell really loud
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>>153092683

send agents to locate him senpai
Then just beeline stacks to him
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How G R E E N E D am I?
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>>153093448
You'll be up to your knees in gobbos.

A terrifying prospect indeed.
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>>153093448
>Karl Zoggin' Franz, what a loser!
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>>153093448

>no allies
>rank 8

You're gonna get BLACK-ORCED
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just freeze my body now and wake me up when all the games and dlc:s are done senpai
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>>153093448
>greenskins
>a threat past turn 10

el mao
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>max happiness in every province
>my people love me
>random event spawning a bunch of rebels for absolutely no reason
for what purpose
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>>153092496
>leddit lizards
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Why didn't the Empire just build a big wall at Black Fire Pass
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>>153094582

>wot iz tha undaway

u umie's are zoggin dumma than us!
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>>153094582

because they couldn't get the greenskins to pay for it
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Can't fucking wait for the DLC lads, will give modders so many more assets to use
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>>153095296

>will actually get a proper Immortulz bodyguard
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Can any moddingbros make a mod that removes the Chaos invasion? Is that even possible?

I'm tired of them being the end game in every single campaign.
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>>153095440

I don't think it's possible because of campaign objectives but there are plenty of mods that delay it to the point of not happening.
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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?
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Never seen this banner before, neat
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>>153095898
When CA make Drachenfels dlc.
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>>153096314
I wonder if Kislev will be part of the chaos expac
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>>153093045
Dinasty Warriors-tier forcewaves, like all heroes
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>>153095296
you know the mod support is fucking shit when you expect the DLC only for the new assets
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Fuck Marrienburg
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>153091240
>ommitting a single unit that would cost the same as all the art in Charlemagne to create.
>malpractices.
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>>153093448
Kill all gobbos
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Watch your tone and intent, /twg/.
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>>153098702
REMOVE NORSCA remove norsca
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Ugh. Finally got the 60k gold a turn achievement with the Dorfs. No need to play them again until they get some more LLs and/or have slayer king spawn up north. I hate having to start fighting the Ork Menace as soon as you start
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>>153098463
>waaah! waaaah! ain't nobody gonna think of the poor developers? god forbid having them work on what they are good at

also, the >Charlememes comparison is and will be irrelevant until we know how expensive Charlemagne's art was
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>>153099516
>he legitimately wants the shitty Jabber unit to be in the game.
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>>153091617
Also it's kawaii
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I wonder. For everyone complaining about DLC and and everything should be free. How valuable is your time? What would you be willing to play for DLC? How many hours do you have to put in a game to say "This was worth the price"
I agree that the Beastmen Expansion is a little expensive, but I value my game time at about $1.00/hr and I have put about 230 hours into the game so I'm not in the red.
Not calling anyone out, I just want to know why some people thing DLC should be free/minimum price.
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>>153099583
I just don't want my favourite faction having it's corners cut when the time comes because:
>game developers can't be arsed to work in developing a game

And what's so wrong with the Jabbers? is it some sort of universal excuse to dodge the argument?
>lul, he likes the Jabbers xDDD
>ayy lmao it's not even a TRUE beastman
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>>153089303
As Empire I literally have no friends or trade partners because of "Aversion" and "Great Power".

Dwarfs for no fucking reason cut ties with me on Turn 4.
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>>153100313
I've bought all the DLC but I do think CA are not pricing them right and losing sales as a result. Would you rather sell 100k at £15 or 200k at £10?
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>>153091240
>implying Lord Pack 3 or 4 for Beastmen/Wood Elves won't add it in.
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>Sea Peoples STILL not announced
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Anyone going full Sigmar fanatic with Grim and Grave and making entire stacks full of Flagellants,Warrior Priests and Arch Lectors?
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>>153100932
literally proto-greeks anyway
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>>153100973
Are the FLagellants going to be fodder units? I just can't imagine them standing up against anything accept T1 units
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>>153100770
Think the Beastmen will get that kind of post-release love? They're such a minor faction...
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>>153101212
Battlepope buffs them shit loads. I'm going to go deep into the red tree with him and Ghorst.
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>>153101213
They still have some unit missing, so it's definitely not off the table.
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>>153100932
Sea... men?
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>>153100313
I'd rather stop making retarded comparisons and rating it for content included, not time spent

Time is subjective, content is not
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Someone spoonfeed me on the Charlemagne meme, I never stuck around during Atilla.
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>>153088756

Rolling
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>>153101430
Hmmm... so maybe they'll be a hammer rather than an anvil?
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>>153090550

>Radious

Absolutely disgusting. Steel Faith is what you want
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>>153101784
>Flagellant
>Anvil
a bunch of crazy bloodthirsty naked fanatics doesn't suggest "anvil" fampai
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>>153088756
Fine
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>>153094327

>He thinks max "happiness" represents his people actually being completely happy
>In the Empire

No m8, that's not how the Empire works.
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>>153100497
There are no arguments being made, we're literally just greentexting and insulting eachother. I'm keeping things surprisingly on-topic to that end.
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>>153102530

Well how does the Empire works then?
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HAHAHHA here we GO again, another round of stale memes and shitposting.
another round of tomb kangz,meme rats, meme goblins, le ebin vlad, and etcetera.

I'm fucking tired of this general, you autists are the absolute bane of this board, holy shit I would stomp every single one of you meme spouting neckbeards in a second with my bare hands.
For the love of god stop posting these memes, I'm tired, I just want to discuss Total War and not have to scroll trough a wall of memes.
Enough is enough.
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>>153102697
hello
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>>153102697
:^)
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>>153102697
upboted friendo :^)

*upvotes your post*
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>>153100932
>humies who roleplay as both Skinks and Chaos Dwarfs

Ship of Fools DLC with wacky pirates when?
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>>153102630

It's more oppressive with a lot of fear and ignorance regarding Chaos and heresy, with a wide divide between rich and poor. Karl Franz for example has absolutely 0 issues sending his reiksguard to run down protesters against some hugely unfair tax law that's been put through

So at any time something could happen that sparks some kind of rebellion, be that through the plotting of the wealthy or the forces of chaos, even Skaven are a possibility
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>>153103280
So then shouldn't these kind of things be explained in the event then? Instead of just "rebels spawn lmao"
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>>153103368

I've not had that event happen, what did it say?
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>>153101212
Volkar's talents give him buffs for Flagellants. Sounds like they will be as common as Swordsman if you want them to be.
>>153101213
That's why I put Lord pack.

Lord pack 1 buffs Vampires and Empire
Lord Pack 2 will buff Greenskins/Dwarfs
Lord Pack 3 will probably buff Beastmen/Wood Elves or Beastmen/Chaos Warriors(Personally I think they don't need it)
Lord Pack 4 will buff Bretonnia/Wood Elves.

3 and 4 could be mix and match.

I'm confident Lord Pack 2 will coincide with Wurrzag's free lord update.
Pic related. nothing fancy but you can guess how it will go.
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>>153103501

I wonder what that new Hero will be
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>>153102212
Soft anvil!
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>>153103501
>lore of amber
ok reddit
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>>153102608
>tomorrow theme
Absolutely based.
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>>153103465
Rebels have taken up arms against you blabla

no specific reason, just spawned a rebel army in one of my territories
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When is next CA stream.
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fucking scout equites
>there's an achievement for killing 1k guys
didn't know until I got it just now
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>>153104534
>the bringers of victory
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>>153102697
Where do you live? I want to take you up on that threat.
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>>153104534
How?
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>>153105021
Early Roman units steamroll early barbarians
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>>153101601

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKRbi2ovDY
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>reminder that if you mention the muslim invasion of the East Roman Empire you are a literal nazi
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>>153104721
Your meme game is weak anon.
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Fote update when?
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>>153105221
Coward.
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>>153105021
Their cav are retard and rush onto spears so no counter there, same with dogs. Then you clean up all the ranged units with almost no losses. Then you cycle charge until victory while your infantry hold in defensive testudo.
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>>153105278
>>153104074
>>153095898

ʍoɹɹoɯoʇ
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>>153088756
roll
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>>153096314
Bruh There's also a faction called boyar traitors in the game files who are essentially Kislev's own 'Empire Secessionists'
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>>153105203
How is this relevant to the Total War series of video games?
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>>153104721
Ingushetia
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>>153105071
I realize that, but 1000 kills is absurd. I thought i overused my cav.
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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Is it autistic to disband armies when you think they've served long enough so they can go home?
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>>153105568
I play on ultra unit sizes so half the kills were the archers anyways.
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Is Norsica a playable race in WH tabletop?
It seems like they "could" be a playable race. I know in bloodbowl They have werewolves and I think a yeti. That could be fun to play. Also has anyone seen any mention of BB in the game itself? like some kind of Easter egg?
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>>153105470


Cause if you talk about removing muslims from some territory in a TW game you are a nazi, a german national socialist, understand?
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>>153105670
It's about as autistic as giving speeches to mindless zombies.
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>>153105419
Kislev definitely seems to be planned for the future. sounds good.
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>>153105706
That makes more sense, but still impressed.
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>>153105670
Holy shit I'm not alone.
I've been doing that since Medieval 1.
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>>153105757
>giving speeches to mindless zombies
what?
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>>153105529
Booking my flight right now tough guy. Where in that shitty 3rd world shithole are you specifically?
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>>153105846
bontus
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>>153105897
You haven't played Mannfred's quest battles, have you?
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>>153105753
Well I guess that depends on how you approach doing that, shout heil hitler or act like /pol/ or something and I guess I can see you being right.

Still, seems like a stretch.
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>>153104014

Could be anything then, I guess they let you make up the reason why it happened
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>>153102090
What? How dare you to speak ill of the great Radious? You all just envy his brilliance and talent, because none of you can create a mod as popular as his!
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Is there any chance anyone who knows what the fuck they're doing with mod tools make the Aeslings playable somehow? I hate the Varg and the Skaelings but I still want to play Norscans. I'll personally put a word in with Father Nurgle if you can do it.
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>>153106057
the first one but I didn't listen to the speech, that I guess he gives to dead people.

>>153105884
Lmao it just feels right.

Although on the other hand, not only did people back then serve for like 20 years or life or something, alot of them probably wanted to be there. Also either way you're putting 100,000 dudes presumably with no skills other than murdering people out of work
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>>153106240
okay so without memeing what are the good points of Radious? it has people like this and that makes me think it can't be completely shit.
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>>153103280
Felix Jaeger get out. Franz needs every coin to get those pimpin steam tank stacks.
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>>153106432
It has a lot of units and it slows down combat. Both are horribly implemented, but that's why people flock to his shitty mod.
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Have you gays ever bullied chaos so hard Archie refused to show up?

>play VC
>fortify sylvania and then head north
>take all of kislev
>chaos warriors start showing up
>ambush their armies near bearsonling's
>wipe out their faction like 4 times
>never expand any further, just farm CW and nords
>archaon's cutscene finally happens at turn 135
>by that time i'm pretty much spawn camping chaos
>only sigboy and big bird show up
>kill them
>an age of peace
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>>153106559

Already got out. Stuck with a doom-lusting Slayer Dwarf now
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>>153106663

Sounds like something Vlad would have pulled
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Is there an alternative to molay since that fucker still hasn't updated the mod yet?
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>spend an hour downloading TATW
>play for 10 minutes and quit because of the buggy combat
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Wood Elves soon.
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G O B L I N S
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This fucking campaign man.
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>>153107750
Enjoy your horde faction ;^)
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>>153108115
damn. never seen mousillon get that much land before. he usually gets snuffed out early on
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>>153110408
Crafty bastard managed to claim most of the frogs
Waited till the moment I shoved my sword up archon's ass to come pouring out along with VC to fuck shit up
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So I've never played Medival II Total War. Installing now.

Should I just go vanilla and play or should I mod it?
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>>153111748
The expansions for M2 are all excellent, as are the mods.
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>>153111916
I have the expansion. Bough the bundle. What mods should I start with?
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>>153111748
Play vanilla for a bit, then try some mods
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>>153112007
Alright. I plan to delve into it tonight.

What mods do you recommend?
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I guess what I'm asking is, how is Stainless Steel?
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>>153112129
Something you should know is if you are used to modern TW games, you're gonna need to rebind the controls, change resolution, and change the camera style. First two you can't do in the campaign map, do those from the main menu.
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>>153112129
Reposting a list someone else posted last thread

Stainless Steel for extra Medieval fun.
Broken Crescent for Mid-Eastern Medieval fun.
Europa Barbarorum for Ancient Rome fun.
1648 for Pike & Shot fun.
Rage of the Dark Gods for Warhammer fun.
Third Age for Lord of the Rings fun.
Westeros Total War for GoT fun.
Rise of Three Kingdoms for Chinese fun.
And - last but not least - Planetwar for hilarious fun.

Out of all those, I'd say that third age and stainless steel are probably the best, but that's just my opinion.
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How do I get back into Medieval 2? I've noticed units are wonky and don't fight properly and how shit sieges are, and I just can't stand it
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>>153112402
Noted. Thank you for the list.
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>>153112579
I think the charm of M2 is it's setting. Aside from that, it's inferior to every new modern TW game.
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>>153112316
Amazing, great overhaul ive put hundreds of hours into.

What do you want to know in particular tho?
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Went to a Greek festival at a church today and now I'm feeling all Christian-y and wanna put my Christianity deep inside some filthy heretics.


Do I start an Otomo campaign or convert my young Geat kingdom to Christianity?
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>>153113128
t. LARPer
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>>153106290
Don't thing it's possibly to edit the starting map in any way

And since Aesling are a "dead faction", I don't think it's possible to do

Aesling best tribe btw
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>>153113128
Atilla is definitely better for Christendom because your unit cries are all Christian once you convert
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ni hao
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What's the purpose of the Ostrogoths being able to recruit Roman soldiers when their warband is so vastly better?
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>>153113950
Not sure how I can increase the amount of christianity I'm getting, at this rate I'll never get there
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>>153115065
That feature was probably made on the assumption that Gothic warband wouldn't be completely fucking retarded in comparison to every other unit you could get early on
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>1. Empire
>2. Dwarfs
>3. Greenskins
>4. Vampire Counts
--------------------------------> Base Game (May, 2016)
>5. Warriors of Chaos
--------------------------------> DLC01 (May, 2016)
>6. Beastmen
--------------------------------> DLC03 (July, 2016)
>7. Wood Elves
--------------------------------> DLC05 (October, 2016)
>8. Bretonnia
--------------------------------> FLC06 (?, 2016)
>9. Tomb Kings
--------------------------------> DLC08 (January, 2017)
>10. Skaven
--------------------------------> DLC10 (March 2017)
>11. High Elves
>12. Dark Elves
>13. Lizardmen
--------------------------------> Expansion 1 (May 2017)
>14. Chaos Dwarfs
--------------------------------> DLC13 (July, 2017)
>15. Ogres
--------------------------------> DLC15 (August, 2017)
>16.1. Daemons of Chaos, Khorne
>16.2. Daemons of Chaos, Nurgle
>16.3. Daemons of Chaos, Tzeentch
>16.4. Daemons of Chaos, Slaanesh
--------------------------------> Expansion 2 (2018)
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>>153116710
I can't fucking wait.
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>>153116710

>Chaos dwarfs

nice meme
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mousillon genocide best day of my life
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>>153117420

Is there a working Mousillon faction unlocker yet?

All I have tried aren't up to date.
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Any other comfy alt starts like ostland or wissenland but for other races?
That guys campaign makes me want to run one
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>>153117493
I only have chaos and b&g, so try setting your patch back I think?
works fine on my machine™
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>>153117631
Fuck off with your shit meme.
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Damn. Shogun 2 was my first TW title, and after playing hundreds of hours between Napoleon, Attila, and Warhammer; I can still go back and enjoy the everliving hell out of Shogun 2.
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>>153117631
Top Knots, Karak Drak, mousillon, and border princes are all pretty comfy
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Anyone got a link to call of the beastmen torrent just by itself?
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About to start a greenskin campaign where I rush up north with azhag to try and ally/fight with the dead 'uns
how much suffering should I expect?
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>>153118301
>mousillon
This, comfiest start in the game.
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>>153118557
>Azhag

unending
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>>153088945
>>153094408
In Tribal Lustria, Lizard genocides YOU!
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>>153119365
>first battle
>azhag nearly dies to the generic warboss despite "even combat"
I can tell this will be fun already
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>>153118987
I sincerely hope that build that in as a future soon than later.
its my first total warIs that a thing that happens or are we depending on mods exclusively?
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>>153117287
>he's anti-hat

Be at this exact place in a year's time and fite me. I will destroy your army and feed them to the black pits of Zharr Naggrund!
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fucking WEW

just in time
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>>153118987
How do you start somwhere else?
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defending this straight

I absolutely have to win, otherwise I'll end up having to fight that giant Ouichi army on the other side
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>>153120461
May the wind be with you friend
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>>153120461
>fog
it's like they knew exactly the best way to fuck me over
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>>153116710
I dont get it I thought they would be putting most of the races in the fucking expansions. what the fuck content will they have then. What about the trents or I mean the tree people are they gonna be in?
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>>153120654
shamefuru disprae
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>>153120623
>>153120654
>>153121046
They're allies join them from the other side of the straight
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>>153116710
there is no fucking way its gonna take a fucking 2 years to add all the races, the expansions HAVE to have a lot of them or it would be fucking retarded.

this is the worst way to go at this, instead of getting fully worked on armies in a expansion, we get missing models for 20 fucking dollars each.

I'm mad , they said they wouldn't do this.
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VAMPIRE COAST W H E N
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>>153088756
Rollan
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>>153121195
I'm caught up to and surrounded. My guns don't seem to do much to their ships but they wreck their morale
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>>153121570
Their arrows do virtually no damage. One by one they lose their nerve and flee.

Closing in on the last one here
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>>153105278

UI cards are almost done so that'll start the statting business. Still can't give ETA since my time is touch and go to work on it.
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>>153122045
Nothing comfier than sinking entire heathen fleets with a fucking trade ship
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>>153122360
aye
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>>153122438
things get dicy as both Oda and Ito declare war on me just as I destroy the Shoni. A christian rebellion starts in a province and takes the castle
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>>153116710
Expansions are gonna be 40 or 50 bux?
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>>15311231
Here's an idea: Total War: Doom
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Damn Manticore is pretty legit
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>>153123598
The Feral Manticore might be my favourite unit in the whole game
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>>153113950
I wish Romans didn't keep using Christian unit cries when you convert to paganism
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>been sacking and then occupying settlements for awhile because the number is bigger for the loot I get
>realize it costs more to repair the buildings after sacking when I occupy than I make extra from sacking first
I now understand why loot and occupy exists
Not the smartest person ever evidently
>>
Is Faithsteel any good? Been looking for an overhaul that isn't Radious...
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>>153124047
You aren't reading it correctly
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>>153124120
Yea I realized that. On my phone it pushed all the dates. That was my bad.

I'm not buying that High Elves, Dark Elves, and Lizard men are going to be anything other than expansion releases.
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>>153124252
Kek nevermind I guess thats what the post was saying. I'm quoting now. I need sleep.
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>>153124252
You should see someone, because that is exactly what it says too.
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>>153124361
Don't mind me, I'm eating shit.
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tomb kangz when
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>>153116710
I estimate that we'll probably get Chaos Dwarfs and Ogres before the first expansion, desu.
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>>153125572
My mum works at CA, each expandalone will expand the world map. First the west, then south, then east
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>playing Portugal in Napoopan
>no college
fuck
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>>153125572
I know for a fact that you're an idiot.
>>
What's are wood elf units like? Lots of fast ranged ones I guess?
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>tomb kings still not announced
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>>153125967
> Dark Lands races as DLC for New World expansion
> Russian leak out of order
It's obviously too early to say it's 100% right but if we're going to make assumptions based on it, the expansions were listed after all the race pack DLCs, so it would only make sense.
>>
So in Attila is the cost of converting a building tied to the religion or is it just something that you have to deal with? It's gonna cost me like 15k to convert this settlement.
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>>153126565
Anyone remember when we used to use photoshop to put an oil paint filter over battle screenshots? Shit looked so sexy.
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I WILL WIPE EVERY ONE OF YOU VAMPIRE VERMIN FROM THE FACE OF THIS REALM BY SIGMAR I SWEAR IT
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>>153126860
>put paint filter over battle
>print it out
>frame it
>sell it to an art museum
>make tons of money just from playing total war
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>>153126565
Is this 1212?
Looks sexy as fuck
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>>153127017
I'm sure one of those modern art museums would legitimately take one.
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>>153126860
Fotosketcher.
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>>153127051
yup
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So Ive just uninstalled darthmod after using it for a long while. You what should I download next?

Imperial splendour or imperial destroyer.
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>tfw I literally walked up to manny and spank his gf's asses
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>>153127951
Imperial splendour looks amazing but I couldnt get it to work.
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Egypt or Syria next?
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>>153128517
Both, at the same time
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Nothing about Empire campaigns are fun, but I keep coming back.

It's like putting your tongue on a battery.
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>>153128725
>He doesn't enjoy the thrill of political machinations combined with the most versatile army comps and possible play styles
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>>153129196
>enjoy the thrill of political machinations
you mean being at war with everyone by round 20 because fuck lore?
>>
I want to play empire and vamps. But the new content soon.

All I have is this green skin campaign and it's shit.
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>>153130250
The Green Skin Campaign does kinda suck.

They really need another faction or two done there to spice things up, as well as adding some fun units to the Ork roster.
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>>153130115
>being bad at politics
Stop shitposting manny
>>
How do I play Beastmen in the Grand Campaign? I feel like I take too long to get rid of the capital of the province you start in and by the time I'm moving into the Empire, they have Lords of like, level 15 or higher vs my 8 or so.
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>>153130821
It's pretty ez desu, senpai.

But if you feel like you suck too bad, just wait till Chaos comes. They will literally win for you.
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>>153130821
What difficulty?
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>>153130878
>>153130913
I've never been good at the games, I just like doing the battles and seeing how far into the campaign I can get before my bad strategies on Normal bite me in the ass.
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>>153130986
Okay, I'll try to help you out.

As soon as the campaign starts, grab both your hordes and siege the capital city. Just starve them out. You'll get a fuckton of money out of that and you'll have a good start. Focus all your Lord's points on the growth ability. Stack growth. Don't be afraid to run from a fight. You're not supposed to steamroll, just hit and run and be incredibly obnoxious until you're rich as fuck from looting. Stack minotaurs and Gorebulls.

And again, don't worry too much. It's almost impossible to not win Bestmen with Chaos on your side.
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>>153128517
Syria before the sassy kids take it. You can always go back for Egypt later.
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>>153130986
On normal I just used both stacks to strike at the capital nearest. Was a complete clusterfuck but as Beastmen you can get away with hibernating a few turns to recover. Income is pretty tricky early on, spec towards upkeep reduction and raiding income
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>>153131192
>>153131234
Alright, thanks!

I'll try again in a moment and see how it goes.
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>>153116710
1. Expansion in May 2017? What drugs are you on? It will maybe announced on may 2017.
Rome 2 was released in septemper 2013 and Attila was announced in late summer 2014.
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>>153131349
Also gors and ungors are very squishy, don't sweat over losing large numbers of them, that's just more blood for the blood godz
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>tfw have bought every DLC so far
What the fuck is wrong with me?
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>>153132175
>tfw have only got Chaos and Blood because they're the only reasonably priced things
I would have broke and bought this reskin shitfest if Vlad wasn't the FLC, but CA fucked that up too.
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>>153132175
good goy

me too
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>>153132175
I also bought the full Hitman experience.
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>>153132175
that was the best fucking episode, holy shit
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>>153132175
>Not waiting to buy the game and the dlc on sale by christmas

I almost always wait about a year to buy a TW title. The kinks have been worked out, mod support is in full swing, game and dlc can easily be picked up on sale.

Just generally the best way to go about it.
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>>153133720
Most are busted since Bestmen.
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>>153132175
I kind of wish I skipped beastmen, they where really boring for me.
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>>153091235

What mods are you using in this image? Varied generals was one, but what's the new chaos units?
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>>153134006
Chaos Divided
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>>153132175
Same here. I feel like rube getting fleeced by the local greasy sleazy Greek
On the upside I really, really enjoyed playing Beastmen in the campaign
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>>153132175

It's a good game, borderline the best Total War I've played.

Not even ashamed of admitting it.

>>153134026

Doesn't that mod just add a billion new shitty units?
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>>153134202
I'm curious, what would /twg/'s greybeards and greenhorns alike rank as their top 3 favourite Total War games?
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Anybody payed 1/2 of the base games price in DLC here? I want to kick your teeth in.
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>>153134323
Rome
Medieval 2
Attila
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>>153134350
Bought them all, and left a positive review >:)
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>>153134323
warhammer
FotS
rome
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>>153134323

Attila
Warhammer
Shogun II
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>>153134106
>Slav
kill yourself Kislevit
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>>153134323
>Warhammer
>Fall of the Samurai
>Medieval 2
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>>153134202
a handful varieties of fodder and some neat higher level units to add some flavor to armies.
It's never really been an issue and chaos does fine against the ai.
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>>153133995
I like beastmen but I really dislike their ambush map
it runs like shit and the exit is right behind enemy
>>
Somebody post the picture of the guy that sent Grace memes
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>>153134323
Attila
Shogun 2 + FOTS
Rome

(I haven't played Warhammer so I can't give an opinion of it)
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>>153134323
Rome 1
Medieval 2
Warhammer

then Shogun 2
Rome 2
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>>153128721
>>153131215

Going well so far. Although if the fucking White Huns come and try to fuck me up the ass it may cause a headache.
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>>153134379
>>153134472
>>153134529
>>153134625
>>153134947
>>153135014
Wh-what about Napoopan?
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>>153135080
Not into gunpowder but it's a decent game
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>>153135080
FotS is just better NapoopaN
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>>153135368
Yooz a right git
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>Mousillon is just taking over everything my Beastmen hordes leave behind

This amuses me greatly.
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>>153134202
Warhams was my first, tried shogan 2 and R2.
>Warhammer
>FOTS
>R2
>Shogun
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>>153130418
It's less the factions and more the badlands suck balls to move around in.

The Beastmen and that weird norscan tribe that show up add some variety.
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>>153135080
As a game, FOTS is a superior napoopan
>>
reply to this post with epic FoTS screenshots
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>mfw Total War: Napoleon 2 never
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What is your darkest TW secret?

I played as the Turks in M2TW.
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POST THE MUSIC U GUNNA BE ROCKIN TO WHEN VLAD IS RELEASED!!!
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>>153137453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPyOhP1GTRQ
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>>153137559
2edgy4me
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>>153137453

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQeFm7X2tdA

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7csvgL-G3E
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>>153137453

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp5y5a4Qcto
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>>153137781
Nice
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>>153137443
Beastmen DLC is worth it
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>>153137453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lQTbRY2xWY
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>>153137625
What's wrong with Burzum?
He's one of my favourite artists.
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>>153138734
>He's one of my favourite artists.
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>>153091240

>idle malpractices regarding dlc
>still bought the dlc
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>>153134323
grognard here
warhammer
rome
shogun 2 and attila get to share 3rd place
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>>153091240
you are everything wrong with the total war playerbase
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>>153128147
MANNLET WAS WEAK
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>>153137453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5hU9OKE-cc
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>>153132175

At this point I am just beyond caring.

I want the complete game with all the races and all the units and all the stuff. I don't care if it ends up costing me 300 bucks.
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>>153125572
But we have to have Skaven before expansion so Lizardmen would have someone to fight with. Or they could make them unplayable for a time, like Bretonia.
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>>153116710
I thought they said Skaven would be amongst the last DLC to be added because of the complexity of their campaign
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>>153139908

>I want the complete game with all the races and all the units and all the stuff. I don't care if it ends up costing me 300 bucks.

That's the issue with DLC. Take Payday 2 for example, if you want all content in the game you need to shell out a huge amount of money. Atleast CA add free stuff to the mix like Paradox does to make sure the gap isn't too huge between DLC owners and non-DLC owners.
>>
RIP Western Roman Empire
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>Working on fighting the Empire as Beastmen
>Karl chasing me around with two doomstacks on his heels

Maybe I should let Archaon handle him.
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>>153140251

And the NPC factions get the content regardless of if you buy it or not, so at least you still get to see and play with it in some sense even if you don't shell out the big bux.
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>>153140321

Yeah, it's basically futureproofing the game for new players. The content is in the game, but if you want to play the faction and get a bunch of bonuses you can get the DLC.

Hopefully they will not all come with a mini-campaign, that shit tends to drive prices up a bit because of development.
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>>153137453
This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXwfhH3MUc
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>>153140432
>a bit
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>>153137453

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKRbi2ovDY
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What is this 'Faction" Modifier on my Bestial Rage?
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>>153141142

There's a standard decay if that's what you mean.
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>>153141220
Is that what the
>Faction -2
Is? Because that along with animosity is making it so I just can't build up rage.
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>>153140995

>Karl Franz' family name is Holswig Schliestein
>A name that is just a switch around of the letter of Schleswig-Holstein, the region of Germany where the Saxons originated
>Reiklanders are literally Saxon men

P O T T E R Y
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>>153141310

>Christopher Lee was literally Dracula

It really makes you think....
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>>153141258

Then I have no idea at the moment. Could be a event that kicked off, could be because your brayherd got stomped, although these things usually go under another category like Event or Technology and such.
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>>153141310
>>153141386
And people say Warhams has no depth
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>>153141310
>the region of Germany where the Saxons originated

Uh no.
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>>153141584

Uh, yeah?
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>>153135014
Napoleon
Rome 2
Medieval 2
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>>153134323
Medieval 2
Rome
Attila
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>>153141258
Did you sign a non aggression pact? That reduces Bestial Rage a bit per turn.
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AAAAAAAAAAH!!!
Every FUCKING day with these STUPID fucking MEMES! I've had it up to HERE with stupid fucking memes! You guys make me want to KILL MYSELF! Is that what you fucking want? For me to fucking KILL MYSELF and write on my suicide note "Cause of suicide: Couldn't handle all of the stupid fucking memes, killed myself"? Because that's what it might as well fucking say!
You guys are literally, L I T E R A L L Y incapable of having even the SIMPLEST of fucking discussion without "MEME THIS, MEME THAT, PROBABLY PONTUS, HERE'S A POORLY SHOPPED PIC OF EPIC FAIL ANTIOCHUS FUCKING UP, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA EBIN AMIRITE?" Fucking STOP IT you pathetic fucking FAGGOTS, you are such fucking cancer that I cannot even fathom how you fucking scumbags live your dumb gay lives. Don't you have a job to get to, schoolwork to finish or a family to attend to? Do you literally do ANYTHING productive with your lives other than post stupid fucking memes? You fucking people make me sick and you're damn lucky I don't have any of your fucking addresses you fucking pieces of shits. I'd spit in your faces.
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>>153116710
Skaven will be an expansion senpai
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>>153121235
why not?
Took them whole year to add slav reskins in attila
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>>153142403
stop stealing memes from /gsg/
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>>153132175
I've bought The Grim and the Grave, but skipped Beastmen and had WoC for free.
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>>153142403
Well pasted my friend
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>>153142403
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Wood Elves have the best skirmishers in the Old World.
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>>153142403
t. Antiochus
>>
I want to lead a mob of flagellants already
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>>153142730

>Dragons Crown

Stop posting anytime.
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>>153121043
fucking wood elves you dumb cunt
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>>153142730
skirmishers are worthless in total war generally but especially warhammer.
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>>153142880
This.

I don't feel like I can play the game right now, not with the new units so close.

Waiting for this game to be finished is going to be suffering.
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>>153141630
Uh, no? That's more or less the most southern part of Holstein, and shows only half of the original area the saxons controlled.
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>>153142730

>finest archers in the known world
>best skirmishers on the planet
>will still lose to a quarreler 1vs1

Yeah, I'm not looking forward to wood faggots.

>>153142967

>can't play de:mankind divided because shitty perfomance
>grim and grave is around the corner
>nukaworld is released about the same time

So all I'm doing now is to watch shitty youtube videos and play Doom.
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>>153143007

>That's more or less the most southern part of Holstein

That's wrong though.
>>
Fuck, bros, why are Beastmen so fun?
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>>153132175
Honestly I don't mind because so far it's not been too bad.

As long as the DLC is fun to play I say they should keep pumping them out.

You know as long as they don't start getting into pay to win turf, if they do that then fuck off.
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>>153123254
60 bux
>>
>Empire of man = kind of roman-germanic empire
>Chaos = Sweden
>Dark Elves = Americans
>High Elves = Ireland + Iceland
>Bretonnia = France + England
>Lizardmen = Mexicans
>Kiev = Russia
>Wood elves = Benelux
>Tomb Kangz = Egypt
>Bestmen = niggers
>Dwarfes = Jews

But what about Chaos Dwarfes?
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>>153090997

>chaos divided

Opinion discarded.
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>>153143314
beastmen are gypsies
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>>153143314

>that fucking list
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>>153143314
Persians. Also its not particularly hard to stereotype warhammer races, they were quite purposefully chosen after historical and tolkien races.
>>
>>153143314

Dark Elves are Canadian.
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>>153143363
whats wrong with chaos divided

>not wanting the Chaos faction to have actual daemons in it
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>>153132175
I wish they would release more dlc faster
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>>153143168
>Those charges
>No pissing about with settlements like chaos has to
>A entire army of monster mashes
>All that peepee poopoo
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>>153143314
>>Kiev = Russia
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>>153143314

>Empire
Holy Roman Empire
>Elves
Generic Tolkien fags
>Chaos
Pagan norse
>Bretonnia
Arthurian mythology plus medieval France and Britain
>Lizardmen
Aztecs
>Dorfs
Tolkein fags combined with cliché vikings
>Chaos dorfs
Assyrian and Babylonian
>Beastmen
Based on the barbarians that sacked Rome
>Orcs
Football hooligans
>Ogres
Mongolian
>Vampire Counts
Dracula and Vlad Tepes
>Tomb Kings
Ancient Egypt

Then every minor faction like Tilea and Estalia and Kiev are all based on other nations.
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>>153143569
I feel like cancer saying this, but honestly yeah, have to agree.
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>>153143567
Daemons are their own faction and they don't march in the army, they either appear or they don't.
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>>153143314
I was always under the impression that Empire=Holy Roman Empire Germans and Beastmen were old pagan Germanics.
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>>153143702
wow

you sure swayed me with that argument anon

i'll just uninstall the mod that makes the most tedious and boring faction in the game actually fun because "daemons are their own faction" (they aren't yet)
>>
How do you have fun playing as the Orcs?
>>
>>153143763

Declare War on everything turn 1.
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>>153143763
Use your poison
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>>153143648
Wood elves are based off Picts and Celts, Dorfs are a mix of celtic and viking which is pretty common given few people ever bother to delineate the two.
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>>153143763
Praise Gork
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>>153144103
Or Mork
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>>153144283
>Mork
You are one pansy git
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>>153143064
Well they could give them special bonuses vs armor, bonuses for fighting in woods or vs manlets or whatever. I'm not holding my breath though. They still have cavalry, giant treemen and other stuff too. Do thye have mounted archers/ranged? Or any specific lore of magic they can use to their advantage?
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>>153143763
Restart as Vampire Cunts or Empire.
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>>153143763
Play all gobbos
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>>153142473

>muh rats will be an expac cuz i say so xd

Google the warhams dlc leak and fuck off.
>>
My cat has mats in her fur. My cat starts flipping out when I try to comb them, and they seem to be knotted enough I'm worried I'll cause damage to the cat if I yank harder with the comb. What should I do?
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>>153145548
Praise Sigmar
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>>153145548
Either get a comb under them and cut them out with scissors or get a set of pet fur clippers and shave them out.

Then make sure you brush your cat in the future so it doesnt happen again.
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>>153145548
Sack Rome.
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>>153145548
Kill it
Raise it
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>>153145548
Ride with a million warriors
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>>153145548
if they were a problem she'd lick them out, cats are good at grooming themselves.
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Is there a reason why the AI NEVER initiates in battle
Like i had 10% health vargheists and varghuls and waited 15 minutes till they regened full and the AI still didint initiate
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>>153134350

Only paid for blood and gore DLC so far, the rest have been completely irrelevant crap to me. things might change with wood keks depending on how they're implemented
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>>153145906
Because if they are defending they are waiting for the time limit
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>>153143920

>Wood elves are based off Picts and Celts
>Dorfs are a mix of celtic and viking

Yeah, forgot about the celts. The other elves aren't really inspired by anything besides Tolkien as far as my knowledge goes. A vague comparison would be Rome as it fell apart inward due to decadence and such. Vaguely.
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>>153145906
If they have arty and you don't they're content to just sit there and force you to come to them. Even when they're attacking.
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>>153145548
Summon the elector counts
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>>153145906

If you attack, then no. They will sit back and wait out the timer.

If they attack, then yes.
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>>153145548

feed it some blini
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>>153145979
Yeah I don't really know what dark elf lore is based off, the corsairs and black arks in LoTR were humans so it makes little sense. Also presumably the 'wild hunt' concept comes from somewhere. Elves are weird as fuck though and its hard to see how they appeal to anyone.
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>>153127051
I can still remember how we used to talk shit about this mod.
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>>153146191
>Elves are weird as fuck though and its hard to see how they appeal to anyone.
They are qt.
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>>153146191

>Also presumably the 'wild hunt' concept comes from somewhere.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Hunt
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>>153146315
>radious will actually release a good mod in 2021

I wonder what /twg/ will be like then
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>>153134350

bought them all and so far loved them.

I also have a fuck huge backlog of games I bought and never touched like Deus Ex
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>>153146424

Damn. Never realised how much of the Witcher is based on Slavic mythology. There are runestones in the games each named after the Slavic gods, edicts and temples in Attila.
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>>153144461
They have access to ten lores of magic, and of course they have mounted archers as well.
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>>153146424
Has GW ever had an original idea in any of the copyrighted material they so viciously guard?
>>
>>153146424
interesting must be purely nordic though I always imagien nordic elves as stunted manlet bastards who bite your knees..
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>>153134323
Empire
Warhammer
Attila
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>>153146375


>Druchii still not announced

so that I may sow death and terror in their ranks
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>>153146556

That's the very reason Fantasy was good. Taking every culture and time period and mishmashed it into a psuedo-earth setting with goofy tendencies.

The most original IP they have is obviously 40k. Or Mordheim.
>>
>>153146556

Honestly I kinda like that about Warhammer Fantasy, it is deliberately supposed to be a bunch of real-world history and popular fantasy shit all mixed together so that practically anyone can recognize what it's about.
>>
>>153146516
please touch deus ex.
It's a good game.
>>
>>153145979
Most "wood elf" language is almost straight-ported from gaelic with the spelling changed. A lot of stylistic choices were used in Wood Elves as well.
>>
>>153146375
I wonder how elves are viewed by others in WH. I remember reading somewhere that a High elf army were viewed as gods by bret peasants but that aint saying much. How are they viewed by other races? What kind of diplomatic bantz can we expect?
>>
>>153146545
Will they also have access to not beast-paths and not brayherds?
>>
I think I found the next Radious

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=749375413
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>>153146791
speaking of radiouses
is there mod that allows me to unmount horsemen/lords/etc in battle?
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>>153146556
Space Marines and much of 40k is fairly original. Green orcs didn't exist before warhammer either. Skaven are pretty damn original as well. Chaos is quite unique but its based off moorcock.
>>
>>153146739

my current backlog is:

Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Deus Ex
Max Payne 3
torchlight 2
the evil within
goat simulator
dragon age inquisition (need to finish)
bioshock infinite
borderlands 2
Banished
Amnesia the dark descent(need to finish)
>>
>>153146773
High elves teached Empire magic, they have embassy and merchants in Altdorf.
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>>153137443
I played M2TW:Stainless Steel 6.4 and:

Conquered Europe as the Fatimid Caliphate, converted it to 100% Islam and renamed all the cities and towns to accurate terms but actually hate Islam in real life

I might post screenshots of it later when I find them on my old drive. Pic sorta related to the general theme.
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>>153146952

>Backlog is only 11 games

You lucky fuck.
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>>153146961
And lizords are the one who taught elves magic
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>>153146556
>muh originality
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>>153107750

R A P E
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>>153137453
This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx92ItBNdOI

DADDY VLADDY IS BACK BITCHES.
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>>153147053
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>>153146952
>Deus Ex
When the power drops go in and go in like the US Marshal and his three daughters, we lose the vaccine
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>>153147025
And Kayoss is the source of magic and has the best sorcerors.
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>>153147213
>Chaos is the source of magic
>what are the Old Ones
>>
>>153147213

>chaos
>best sorcerers

Nah.
>>
is magic damage just for ghost busting or does it do more than that?
>>
>>153113771

Bugger. Alright, thanks anyway.
>>
>>153147278
Dead? Is it ever explained what happened to them?
>>
>>153146952
Deus ex is alright, the original is also really good.

Your list could use a little work though.
>>
>>153146996
>DLC expansion for Attila had ending cutscenes for half a dozen factions.
>Warhammer has none for four factions.
>>
>>153147297

doesn't magic do better against armored units?
>>
>>153147297
Ignores physical resistance and goes through armor I think
>>
Fuck, i just completed Eye for an Eye and Todbringer didn't unlock for me. Is it because i'm using mods?
>>
>>153143763
>He doesn't have a stack or two of all gobbo's led by a gobbo general.

DO YOU EVEN KNOW FUN?
>>
>>153147297
Isn't it treated like extra damage?

So base damage plus magic damage combined equal final damage total.
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>try and get a chaos lord to a chaos dragon
>mfw it's damn near impossible as they get swarmed eventually

Is chaos dragon even worth it? I'm contemplating just getting a mod that reduces the level of acquiring the bigger mounts
>>
>playing Attila
>tfw just going around roman countryside burning down every minor settlement so the major settlements all starve to death
>>
>>153147459
The dragons so far dont even have breath attacks. So disappointed. Better change by the time high elves come out.
>>
>>153147337
Because Warhammer isn't finished yet mate. It's part 1 of 3. Everything in the base game is going to lead into the first expansion which will then seamlessly integrate the games and events.
>>
>>153147396

>Todbringer
>unlock

What?
>>
>>153147337
>Max out Attila can barely hit 20fps close up battle. Can't even reach 60fps on campaign map. Uninstalled after 28 hours.
>Max out Warhammer hitting 130fps on campaign map and 69-92 on close up. Played:211 hours so far.
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>>153137453
I believe in God the Father, God the Son, and the 'shee riding the winds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVU6o7xg_Lo
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>>153146952
Your backlog is augmented
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>>153147640
Beating the eye for an eye campaign unlocks Boris Todbringer.
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>>153147626
>Be 2017
>Be playing Volkmar the Grim after installing Expansion 1 and continuing my main campaign.
>Beat Chaos and rejoice at surviving the invasion
>Spend 30-40 turns rebuilding and resettling the razed areas and healing the land of corruption.
>Send my main armies into Norsca to finish off the raider threat once and for all.
>Start disbanding some resting veteran armies as the threat has passed. They deserve to go home to their families.
>Suddenly the land expands to Nehekara and the Dark Lands in a massive cinematic event.
>Ogre fat fucks storming towards the mountains
>Skaven bursting from beneath my feet besieging and corrupting everything.
>Tomb Kings rallying for war and greenskin tribes just chanting "MORK! GORK! MORK! GORK!" flinging shit at them.
>Chaos Dwarfs enslave my Dawi allies.
>Once dead factions are revived by similar aligned factions because my southern and eastern settlements aren't well developed.
>My enemies are reborn and my armies are too far north.
>fuckme.jpg

Going to be fun desu.
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>>153146996
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>>153147640
Boris becomes a playable legendary lord in Custom battles.
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>>153148143
>>153147935

Oh, didn't know that.
>>
>>153146790
NotBeast-paths yes(can't recall the specific name), NotBrayherds no.

All Elves have the schtick of being elite but few in numbers so something that gives them an extra army for free wouldn't make sense.
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>>153147585
The zombie dragon does breathe rotten air as one of it's attacks when grounded
>>
>>153147957
If we actualy get a working complete map of the old world things might turn out pretty fun

too bad there's no working naval battles
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>mfw I realise one of them isn't wearing anything on one leg
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>>153148694
I am really looking forward to adding them, especially since some factions' major strenghts, at least lorewise, is supposed to be their navy. However I cant see CA properly balancing or even making naval battles given how Rome 2 turned out. I mean imagine a dorf dreadnought fighting a Norscan longship, or a dark elf black ark fighting a giant turtle with lizards on it.
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>>153149092

Meant for>>153147957
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>>153149219
They're filthy Averlanders, nuff said
>>
>kislev, estalia, tilea, and the border princes will be fully fleshed out, either by CA or by a dedicated mod team

Feels pretty good. I want my Gospodar hussars and Ungol horse archers and fucking ICE MAGIC.
>>
I can't wait for the NOT RECOMMENDED Steam reviews for Grim and the Grave. Steam reviews were a mistake.

"did shud has bend free"

"[middle finger ASCII]"

"[guy shitting on DLC name ASCII]"

"After Attila I am never buying another TW game again because their DLC policy. [owns TWW and its DLC including the one he's currently reviewing]"

"$200 for all game + all its DLC, no thanks! [buys CA games just to leave shitty reviews then refunds them]"

t. this games shitty fanbase & Arch
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>>153149454
Hello shill
>>
>orcs invites averland to attack the empire, and they did it
RETARDED AI
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>>153149529

Row row fight the powah!
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>>153149172
Well we will have to wait and see, they are not limited by historical accuracy this time so they can play around with playstyles a lot more. One idea I had is that ships more powerful at ranged engagements suffer more in boarding. So a big dwarf dreadnought is quite unlikely to lose to most range encounters but is very un-maneuverable and has a low crew number. So maybe one of those beastmen narwhals has much more maneuvarablility and boarding strength rather than ranged power. Another way to balance it is so dwarf ships have less campaign movement range than say norscan longships and so it is the norscans who can pick engagements. Im also pretty sure for naval combat, CA has to get a separate license form GW but considering the game's success I doubt thats a huge issue.
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>>153149609
2 jabberslythes have been added to your account

Keep up the good work
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>>153088756
Please no Empire.
>>
>>153149616
>>153149616
Doesn't CA not have the ship license from Games Workship or something retarded like that?

In any case there are ship portraits in the game files but only like 4 for each faction, so I'm afraid it might just be autoresolve ships.
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>>153149529
Epic
>>
>>153148694
>>153149172
>>153149616

I thought they already said naval battles would all just be auto-resolved?
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>>153149784

Naval warfare in the Warhammer universe is it's own separate miniatures game, so I suppose it is possible that they can't actually use it, especially considering that there's a whole separate game being made out of that licence

http://store.steampowered.com/app/344240/
>>
>>153149681
>still trying to push this shitty meme

Laughing alone at your own jokes is not good for you anon
>>
What units would be usable in a strigoi-only campaign? Does

>Ghoul king
>Ghoul king on terrorgeist
>Banshee?

>Zombies
>Crypt ghouls
>Cairn wraiths?
>Crypt horrors

>Fell bats
>Doggies
>Hexwraiths?
>Terrorgeist

Sound about right? Not sure about the ghost units, especially. Obviously like a goblin campaign you'll have the wrong units in the garrisons, but that can't be helped.
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>>153149616
>I doubt thats a huge issue.

Never underestimate the stupidity of Games Workshop.

>>153149848

There are unit cards for ships and dreadnoughts in the game files. It's a possibility, although slim, that we will see naval combat.

>>153149870

As soon as that game is released I'm going to buy the shit out of it. I've watched playthroughs and right now it's extremely barebones, but goddamn, the potential.
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So this how it ends, huh. I wish Eye for an Eye was more scriprted or something. It started out fine, but towards the end Boris and his friends just stopped putting up a fight. The final battle for Middenheim was underwhelming as fuck - 2 stacks of Kazrak and Malagor vs Garrison, all while Todbringer was running away with half of his stack.
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>>153149616
>>153149784
>>153149870

Is GW trying to become a parody of itself? Thiis game might be their biggest chance at marketing their stuff.
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>>153149952
I took middenheim about halfway through the campaign, AI was off chasing my brayherds in the south (love using those fuckers as distractions) so I jumped in and burned the place. End of the campaign was against marienburg rather than middenheim, strangely.
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>>153149981

Why would they care about marketing a product they no longer sell?

All they care about is the revenue from the royalties they're getting.

Also the Man o' War game looks fucking awesome.
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>>153148345
>so something that gives them an extra army for free wouldn't make sense.
Oh, but it will. The Wild Hunt spawns, except you can't control it and there's a chance it turns on you.
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>>153149915
>ghoul king
>ghouls
>horrors
>doggos
>bats
>varghulfs
>vargheists

That's a 100% monstrous lineup that's more than capable of winning a campaign. You lack magic, so maybe consider throwing a necromancer in there; someone needs to raise the ghouls to begin with.
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>>153149915

The only units you're actually omitting are skellingtons. Get rid of ghosts and zombies, and rely entirely on bestial units, like ghouls, bats, varghulfs and crypt horrors.

Skip skellingtons, including terrorgheist, wraiths. And possibly dogs, they're resurrected dead if I remember correctly.
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>>153149915
Vargulf is a good fit, with the whole "Vampire given over to its beastial nature" thing strigoi bring.

Obviously Terrorgeist too, and Vargeists are fine as well i'm sure. Ghosts feel a bit iffy on theme- I think they require a considerable amount of magical mastery that would be more along the lines of the Von Carsteins, Lahmians or Necrarchs.
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>>153150076

Ghoul Kings have magic.

We don't know what spells they have access to yet though, since they apparently have a blended Death/Vampires lore.
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>>153150076
Varghulfs and Vargheists are vampires, though. Not necrotic creatures.
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>>153149981
>Thiis game might be their biggest chance at marketing their stuff.
Marketing what, a setting they killed?
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>>153150162

Ghoul Kings are vampires too m8
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>>153150070
Right I forgot about the Wild Hunt.

But still Wood Elves will be more about harrassing and outmaneuvering opponents rather than hordes.
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>>153150212

yeah but he wanted a strigoi only campaign
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>>153150258

Well couldn't they just be Strigoi vampires that have degenerated into the Varg states? I haven't heard anything to suggest that it doesn't happen to their bloodline.
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>>153150189

Wait, they even pulled all the WHFB minatures?

That's fucking retarded. Financially retarded.
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>>153150189

>GW website
>all the forums, gone
>all the articles on the hobby, gone
>all the tutorials they made for beginners, gone
>all the info about the various factions, gone
>all that's left is a shop with no explanations

GW is a company that deserves to die.
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>>153150324
It makes sense, they're not a gaming company after all.
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>>153150317

I think the whole Total War push may simply have made them finally sell out.

They aren't producing any new ones after all, they were just selling their left over stock.
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>>153150076
Ghouls and Crypt Horrors actually are alive.

Cannibalism has much higher consequences in the Warhammer world.
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>>153150076
That actually does sound like a lot of fun to try.
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>>153150317

Not if you plan to kill a franchise and replace it with a capeshit setting.

Besides, one day they will open up some old storages and sell those old miniatures for twice as much, as "collectors" items.

>>153150462

Credit where credit is due, AoS did a great job when it came to redesigned ghouls and Strigoi.
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>>153150462

Strigoi Lords better be absolutely god tier in melee.

I think there is some story about a Strigoi ripping the head off a dragon with their bare hands.
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>>153150442
I looked up for some minis to use in a D&D campaign but the prices were way to high. Then I though maybe AoS is more accessible, nope its even worse. I wonder how paople can afford entire armies, and what brainless shmuck in GW thought that this is a hobby kids would get into.
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>>153149454
it does piss me off like, did people seriously think they'd do all the races in one game? even a Total War game?

Did people seriously think there would not be DLC after the five previous games with DLC?
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>>153150640

They're aiming for the very dedicated audience. They don't give two shits about the game itself or the lore, as far as GW is concerned they're selling "high quality models", that's it.

Read this and weep. Weep and despair.
>http://www.iii.co.uk/news-opinion/richard-beddard/games-workshop-agm%3A-relentless-profit-machine
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>>153149981
Nah, the game would compete with their miniature sales then :^)

They are actually this inept in their thinking.
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>>153150654
>Did people seriously think
They seriously didn't think, that's the problem.
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>>153150840
People probably wouldn't play the game, since spending hundreds of bucks to get a SINGLE reasonable army would probably be beyond most people who are used to videogames.
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>>153150640

Kids are in fact one of their primary income sources.

They market it as a creative hobby, something which makes most parents brains short out since they would much rather their kids spend time on something creative and social rather than play video games and shit.

They rely on upper middle-class kids to come in with their parents, spend a few hundred bucks on minis, rulebooks and overpriced paints and then to leave and probably forget all about it.

Their other primary source are hobby autists who just buy the models to paint them and don't care about the game that's attached.

By GW's own stated admission they basically don't give a shit about their product in terms of it being an actual game that people care about playing.

This is all what GW claims anyway, a problem with believing anything GW says about their market is that GW also proudly says that they don't do ANY marketing research, so how they know what their markets are I have no idea.
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>>153150640

If you want minis for D&D you should take a look at Reaper Minis, their Bones miniature line is very affordable.
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>>153150969
All you need to do is check out eBay to see the results of the average GW purchase. The people that actually care about the hobby are few and far between; i'd bet over half of all sales end up being re-sold once the kid realizes it takes hard work to make the models.
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>>153150769

>only about 20% of Games Workshop’s customers are gamers. The rest are modellers and collectors. Maybe half of them think about playing now and then. The other half have no intention. People actually walk into the stores because they’re curious about modelling fantastic armies.

How do they know that.

HOW DO THEY KNOW ANY OF THAT.

THEY DON'T DO ANY RESEARCH

ARE THEY JUST FUCKING GUESSING?!
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>>153150936
To be fair that is a separate problem but at the same time at least it would have been some form of marketing.

They can't do that anymore now though!
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>>153151308
>ARE THEY JUST FUCKING GUESSING?!

Yes.

A awful one at that.

It blows my mind because you'd think they'd USE the game or try to pull something like X-wing. Where the game encourages you to buy new models/packs.

But nah fuck that! We sell models EXCLUSIVELY to over paid gonads!
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>>153151824
edgy
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>>153151036
Yeah im browsing their store now, I hope their shipping fees arent murder because they look nice. Still, would have loved it if that new Neferata model was cheaper, even if its AoS it would be perfect for a reccuring big bad
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>>153151036

>decide to check out reaper minis
>pic related doesn't even cost 3 dollars

What kind of fucking contract does GW have with Citadel because they'd charge like 15 dollars for this.
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>>153125954
I can't get any of the playable portugal mods to work

Wtf senpai
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>>153152285
>>153152087

Reaper are pretty based.

They funded a lot of the machines they produce their Bones line on through kickstarters and those had some ridiculous deals

>tfw got pic related for 10 bucks
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>>153152540

And also, everything in pic related for $100
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>>153152627

>all that shit for 100$

GOD FUCK

Why didn't I look into this shit sooner.
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>>153152627

>Meanwhile, for the low low price of 60+ dollarydoos
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>>153152540

>10 bucks

Fucking how.

>>153152627

>100 bucks

FUCKING HOW.

I mean, some models aren't as detailed as the stuff you can get from either Citadel or Forge World, but goddamn.
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So, I recently conquered the Danes and the Geats in a defensive war, the Geats were uttlery crushed and wiped out but the Danes had a royal army sailing around Scandinavia that I never managed to nail down.

At the time I was in a big conflict with the Langobards, and Gauul (and continuing continental conflicts) so when the Danes sued for peace I took it so I could pull most of my forces out of Scandza to help in Europe.

However the Danes have been milling around doing nothing threatening to me personally, but I'm not sure if having two hordes milling around is good for security or if i should just continue on and eliminate them.

Fighting too many fronts here.
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>>153152285
That looks blurry as fuck to be honest dude
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>>153153036
GW products are just that disgustingly overpriced. Even considering the initial costs of the molds and materials, the lengthy supply chain, and the brick and mortar real estate involved in owning and operating a store, your average 28mm figure costs a fraction of a fraction of a cent to produce.
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>>153152627
can you just 3D print these?
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>>153152957
>60+ dollarydoos

Oh you don't even know...
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I like to think that beast women and beast men fucking looks like this:

http://g.e-hentai.org/g/845200/8c9d6c487f/
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>>153153103
>Losing your capital
SHAMEFUL

DISPLAY
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>>153152767

The Reaper Bones kickstarters are some of THE best value for money I have ever seen in ANY hobby sale.

This was the $100 pack for the second Kickstarter,

>>153153169

No, 3D printed minis pretty uniformly look like garbage.

The entire reason they did the kickstarters is because the upfront cost for molds is so high.
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>>153153178
Aussies are not humans.
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>>153153178
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>>153153205

Is it just me or is the website super-sized for anyone else?
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>>153153120

Bones minis look blurry when they're unpainted because shade doesn't really catch on the bland color of the plastic

They look perfectly fine when painted, the details are there.
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>>153153242

I didn't lose shit. I did a little experiment and migrated at the start of the game before any wars broke out.

However I AM planning on retaking Frisia, right after I can catch my breath with these constant conflicts.
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>>153153270
>Implying I'm not a spider having to live with these inhuman monsters
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>>153153379
>I-I meant to lose it! It's n-not that I was too cowardly to try and keep hold of it!
SHAME

FUL

DISP

LAY
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>grimgrave trailer music will never be used in-game
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>>153153375
That really does look pretty damn good painted.
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>>153153524

>>I-I meant to lose it! It's n-not that I was too cowardly to try and keep hold of it!

You say that like they're mutually exclusive.

There's a difference between being a coward and being a shrewd king.
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>>153153683
but whos going to paint them?
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>>153153587
>It's used but comes with a shitty redone voice over through out it.

Soundtrack DLC when?
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>>153153205
>no panda
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>>153153343
Just you.
Zoom out.
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>>153153750
I'll give it a go.
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Why is Greenskin campaign such a bore? I got to turn 88 and couldnt bother to continue.And then i jumped to my Empire (already completed long victory and conquered everything i could) campaign and started wiping Norscan fucking shits while helping dorfs with green scum and had a blast.
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>>153153731
It's not like the city's hard to hold if you put a little effort in. And if you had held it you'd have a walled settlement (sort of) blocking the entrance to Scandza.

Hell, Londidium's more of an issue to hold because every fucker and their dog makes a beeline for southern Britain.
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>>153154013
Go and play your boring histfag shite then.
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>>153154014

Alright I'm retarded and didn't really think things through.

At least I'm fixing it now.
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>>153154013
dwarf and GS will be as interesting as VC and Empire when Skavens and tomb kings will be out
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>>153154013

Dorf and O&G gets insanely boring once you've conquered the Badlands as there is no threat to you. As soon as Tomb Kings and/or Lizardmen are released you can expect the campaign to be a lot better.
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>>153153782
>panda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8JxWP4F4sY
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>>153145548
YOUR CAT IS WEAK
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Does poison doggos and dogs in general count as a Large unit?
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>>153154110
>>153154201
I suppose thats true,had a blast with Empire and Vampire counts and while I finished long one with Dawi it wasnt nearly fun as those two,and greenskins...just no.
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>>153146540
>Never realised how much of the Witcher is based on Slavic mythology.
90% of Witcher is Slavic mythology. The whole sword of destiny thing is a Slavic concept.
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>>153154339
Nope
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>>153153946
>tfw absolutely shit at painting

Cost and that are the 2 major reasons I never got into any type of tabletop tbqh
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>>153154339
No. "Large" begins at horses and moves up, so a lot of monsters don't actually count as large units.
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>>153154339
It's easier if you just replace the word Large with Anti-Cavalry in your head. If it's bigger than a horse, spears will kill it.
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>>153154013
>>153154201

>not abandoning Black Crag and migrating straight to the Northern World's Edge mountains with your starting army

It's like you gits don't even want to have fun
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>>153153758
I fucking hope not, that track is pretty fucking good
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>>153154840
This is why I want them to implement different starting locations for every Lord. I want to start at Slayer Keep and spend the entire game just keeping the NORSCAN FUCKING SHITS out of civilized lands.
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>want to play a Bretonnian campaign
>the only good mod for them is Prater's mod
>hasn't updated it since Beastmen came out
>every other faction unlocker has some issues for Brets

I just want to play something differently.
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>>153154920
Yeah why sleeya keeeng doesnt start at karak kadrin? And they could put kemmler at mousillion for example.
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>>153128147
>only one blood knight
He's retarded. I field at least six of them each time.
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Alright, memes aside do you think the new dlc is worth it at this price? I've been thinking of starting a new VC campaign, and the corpse chariots look good, but the "regiments of renown" seem like a bunch of recolors.
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>Want to learn modding
>Have loads of ideas I want to try
>Watch a tutorial
>Get too intimidated and give up
I hate being stupid.
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>>153147626
So its not classic triology with sequels but with 2 big expansions which will integrate in the main game and after all it will be one uuuuge game? Plz yes
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>>153155907
Depends how much that money is worth for you.
Do you have trouble feeding your family?
Then don't get it now.
Do you have at least several thousands dosh sitting somewhere?
Then yes,
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It makes me sad how TWW gets so much shit, and how I get shit for liking it.
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>>153155907
For me, no, won't be getting it until a sale. I just don't think a volmar campaign, or a whatshisface campaign, or a campaign with a few more unit options, will be different enough to a normal empire or VC campaign.
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>>153155931
just fuck around with the pack file manager and do something super basic mate

I've done several things that started with buffing some units and now I've created my own (albeit with reskinned models of course due to lack of proper modding kits)

it's way less difficult than it looks
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>>153156143
Well I'm no neet, but I dont exactly have a stable job either. I thought I might wait until wood elves but since their release might be a while and I didnt buy beasties, this will have to keep me busy.
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>>153156319
it does? it's by far the favoured game here
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>>153155931

Don't give up, anon!
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>>153155931
When there's a will there's a way senpai
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>Cheiroballistra
>pronounced Kallio Ballista
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Based Beastmen. They have been so nice this campaign!
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>>153156718
Everywhere but here it gets shit because 'muh dlc'. If I say anything in defense I get 5 "shill" replies
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>>153157147
>caring about what retards say
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>down to my final horde, khazrak holding off marienburger fucking shits until he can bounce and rebuild in the ruins of brettonia
>random event, my level thirteen bray shaman is beaten up by a cyghor he was trying to dominate, out of action for eight turns
>immediately forced in to battle by todbringer who rode down from carroburg to see what was going on
>end up losing by the tiniest of margins due to not having any buffs or debuffs
>todbringer survives with ~200hp, khazrak is gunned down by a unit of pistoliers as he's trying to chase him down and finish the job

I KNOW YOU PAID THAT CYGHOR TODBRINGER YOU FUCKING SHITLORD.
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>>153156793
>caesar
>pronounced kaiser
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>>153157356
You can only get hit by so many rocks before bleeding a little, man. 'Course everyone's going to eat their words once TWW's finished.
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>>153157012
How'd you do that? sue for peace after their first attack and then invite them to war with norscans?
Its like the empire tamed its own dog to solve its problems.
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>>153156319
Do you get paid by words or by post?
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>>153150769
>>153151308
I collect miniatures and I don't give a shit about the tabletop, so I don't see anything wrong with it. But it's strange that they would squat whole factions and their model ranges if they indeed focus on collectors.
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>>153154996
I played it before Beastmen and it was excellent.

Full army of grail knights and a few mounted yeomen and I killed everything. It just needs a lot of micro so that you constantly charge into enemies.

I even have one battle save where I killed 3 full Chaos stacks with Archeon and the gank with two of my armies comprised only from grail knights, mounted archers and a few pegasus knights to take care of their artilery. In the end I had around 150 troops left, but they had non.
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>>153157669
I'm genuinely curious, do you think of yourself as somehow witty?
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>>153157697
don't ever insult my boy Todbringer again, capiche?
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>>153157697
>Boris being the Antochius of Warhammer

I'm pretty sure there's someone else that keeps fucking up
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>>153157860
We need a Mannlet edition of that picture, especially now that Vlad is about to be added.
too bad I'm not funny
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>>153157812
>almost lose your entire army
>it's good
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>>153157998
Hark brethren, here is our man, repeating once more his special plan, to tell us all again the tale, of his hatred for the short bald male. A jester surely this man is, to repeat such a tale as this, over and again, we are all awed, I swear to this upon my God. In my mind’s eye I near almost see, the pallid ox-like frame of thee, lit only by a single stream, leaking from your computer’s screen. And you guffaw like the village fool, as you type in your thread, so cool, and attach to it a portrait framed, and password type as it is named. Or perhaps password you need not type, as so pathetic are your stripes, that you have paid away those dues, and need a picture only choose. And what a funny portrait too, that man whose height dwarves all, who makes you erupt with laughter now, as you spill your food upon the ground. But for the mess you worry not, as your mother with your toilet pot, will surely in the morning clean, and take away your filth obscene. Your mother, who in lonely nights, cries her heart out to see the sight, of her wasted, long since grown up son, whose skin ne’er sees the light of sun, as all he does is repeat his stale and oh so clever funny tale, till count of it is off the scale, of the tale of the short bald male. These nights she pictures what could have been, her inmost hopes, her now crushed dreams, of you achieving greatness wide, not chained to your PC inside. And with you now she cannot speak, tears of sadness stain her cheeks, as when you are not beating your meat, this tale is all that you repeat, How could your mother you so mistreat? Once in her eyes a boy so sweet, with golden hair and frame petite, now a lowly, petty, Mannfred NEET.
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>>153157697
>using old Boris model
>"Empire for Sale", not "Middenland for Sale".
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DLC speculation? DLC speculation. Fill in the blanks edition.

>DLC01: Chaos Warriors Race Pack
>DLC02: Blood for the Blood God
>DLC03: Call of the Beastmen
>DLC04: The Grim and the Grave
DLC05: Wood Elf Campaign Pack
DLC06: Skarsnik vs. Belegar Ironhammer ft. Wurrzag FLC Legendary Lord Pack*
DLC07:
DLC08: Tomb Kings Race Pack
DLC09:
DLC10: Skaven Campaign Pack (Karak Eight Peaks Mini-Campaign)
DLC11:
DLC12:
DLC13: Chaos Dwarfs Race Pack
DLC14:
DLC15: Ogres Race Pack

*Might not be DLC06 but without a doubt will happen.

7 Race/Campaign Packs 7 Legendary Lord Packs, the 6 unknown are all Legendary Lords, and if G&G is anything to go by then:
>14 new Legendary Lords
>Dozens of brand new units
>Dozens of Regiments of Renown reskins

The real question is whether or not this DLC schedule is just for the first game though. If you assume DLC1 - 15 have a 1 month turn around, that's a year and change which is about how long it took before Attila came out after Rome 2.
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>>153088756
gibbe
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>>153158008
Even worse if you consider that Grail knights are supposed to be sort of demigods blessed by an elven godess in the lore. They seem pretty bad in game, at least they shouldnt take corruption damage or something On the other hand them being shitty is in line with the tabletop
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>>153157860
Malekith getting the shit kicked out of his elite armies by a bunch of high elf peasants is pretty close.
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>>153156793
>pronounced
>pronounced \-ˈnau̇n(t)st\
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>>153158226

>DLC08 and DLC10

YES, PLEASE.
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>>153158226
Wood Elves Soon.
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>>153158426
>snore kings und reddit rats

no thanks
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>>153158226

Why would DLC10 have the KEP mini campaign and not DLC 06 with Skarsnik?
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>>153158427
When the Murderous treehugers are added and the weebs inevitably dissapointed by how they look, will they move on to posting kawaii knights for brets or kawaii skelletons for the kangz?
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>>153158601
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War:_WARHAMMER_Future_Content_Blog

>A supercharged version of a Race Pack, Campaign Packs not only contain a brand new Race for use in the Grand Campaign and Multiplayer, but also add a new Challenge Campaign to the game. Themed on an epic event from the Warhammer Lore, these self-contained Campaigns will present a distinct and challenging scenario.
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>>153158226

DLC07: Be'lakor the Harbinger & Daemons of Chaos Unit Pack
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>>153158792
>How can we ramp up the price of DLC?
>I know lets slap in some shitty minicampaigns no one wants and pretend its worth it
Horray for CA
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>>153158235

Why was Bretonnia so shit in TT? They were in the top 6 of most played WHFB races.
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>>153159024

Very colourful and cool looking army I guess.
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>>153158858
>Be'lakor
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>>153159024
unavoidable function of power creep and having the oldest armybook. They were strong when they came out, but their cavalry has been eclipsed since then, and cavalry as a unit type got worse with the rise of monstrous cav and big showpiece monsters in every army.
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>>153159024
Generic humans are always more popular than other races in everything
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>>153159024
No updates since 2003.
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>>153158958
Sega probably priced it and CA threw in a mini campaign to make it worth it.
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>>153159102
>"[screaming]"
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>>153159273
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>>153159204
More like CA just fucked over its consumers again because it can get away with it
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>hammer and anvil simulators
>strategy
top kek m8
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>>153159421
>maping painting simulators
>strategy

tippy top kekkers mate
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>>153159351
>adding more content that you can wait to get until it costs less than a beer if you feel it's not worth the starting price

Wow sure feels like fucking over

Wait, I'll greentext your reply

>1.75 japperslythes have been added to your account

:^)
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>>153159351
Yes because a game I have 100s of hours in certainly means I've been had
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>>153159421
t. johan
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>>153159592
>fucking over mindless consumers is okay because you didnt fall for it!
Yeah no.

>>153159680
You could have a thousand hours in the game and it wouldnt change jack shit. Its still overpriced as fuck.
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>>153159889
>if I don't like its price it means it's overpriced for everyone
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>>153157012
If they didn't spread corruption everywhere I'd be more inclined to spare them. As it is I just exterminate every god damn heard that pops up.
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>>153159421
>strategy
If you're going to shitpost at least use the correct terminology

Hammer/Anvil is a tactic, not a strategy.

>>153159680
I have 250 hours in TWW and even I think BM was a scam. They could have at least sold the campaign separately for people who actually wanted it but we know why they didnt.
>only 2.6% even played the BM campaign
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>>153159996
Feel free to actually retort to my argument rather than post a meme. But we both know you'll keep shitposting now to save face.
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>>153160049
>Hammer/Anvil is a tactic, not a strategy.
Makes my post even more correct actually but in a different way
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>>153160163
You have no argument you're just stomping your feet while saying that you find something overpriced. You have more content so you pay more, the fact you chose to ignore that content because you're not interested doesn't make your "argument" any more true.
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>>153160243
TW has always been a tactics game so no, it doesn't. It just proves you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>153160049
I have more hours than you therefore my opinion has more worth.
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>>153160394
It's an abstract kind of shitposting
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>>153160362
Oh good I forced you to actually make an argument

> the fact you chose to ignore that content
Oh I never realized I could get the BM without the minicampaign, can you link that for me then?
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>>153155931
Everyone has to start some where. Just do simple things at first, you don't even need to share them, just to make sure your ideas will work. Then move onto the more complicated things.

If you stick to it you'll work it out, just might take some time is all.
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>>153160460

>played warhammer 3x longer than it's been out
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>>153160460
I too can use photoshop. Although I prefer GIMP because its less hardware demanding and free wh.
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>>153160460
This is a good meme
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>>153160460
>34,532 hours
>1,439 days
>205 weeks
>4 years

I'm not sure how i'm supposed to be feeling right now.
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>>153160573
>Iv been shitposting about this game before it even existed!
/twg/ - tactics based shitposting
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>>153160505
>Oh I never realized I could get the BM without the minicampaign

Exactly my point, thank you. The price includes content you're not interested in, it doesn't make the content you actually want overpriced. If you find the whole price too high you can wait for a discount. No one's out there to get you or forcing you to buy it day one.
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>>153155907
Depends on if you enjoy the factions it's for. If you Like playing Empire/Vamps then yes it's a pretty fair deal. If not? then there's no point.

And yeah the RoR show so far seem to be retextures but they're supposed to come with unique stats and abilities so that in it's self could be worth it?
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>>153160460
>playing TWW so hard that you bend space and time in order to artificially inflate your playtime figures until they're several times longer than the game has actually existed

Good memes.
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>>153160626
>Taking that pic seriously
Also, realize that youre arguing the difference of like 5 dollars. I understand that
>Its not about the money its about sending a message
But puts things in perspective.
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>>153160823
mods were a mistake - CA
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>>153160823
ONLY TOMB KINGS HAVE SKELETON ARCHERS DELETE THIS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>153134323
As someone who's played all of them (even Spartan Total War), in no particular order:

Medieval II
Attila
Warhammer
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>>153160823
I'm booty bothered by this.
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>>153160936
They're for the tomb kings mod.
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>>153160767
You didnt post a link to the DLC without the minicampaign, im still waiting.

>it doesn't make the content you actually want overpriced.
Yes it does, because its forced content next to no one wanted used as a justification to ramp up the price when there is absolutely no way it cost that much to make in the first place.

Go on now, im still waiting for you to post that link to the minicampaign-less BM pack.
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>>153134323
Attila
Warhammer
Rome II
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>>153134323
It's by far the largest entertainment franchise in my life. I've been a huge fan since Shogun first dropped. Just one of those things that I always turn to when i'm bored and looking for a way to spend my spare time.

>napoleon
>attila
>m2

In no particular order. TWW will probably replace M2 once it matures.
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>>153134472
Seconding this
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>>153161049
I guess asking for proof of something that was never stated to exist can make you think you're right, more power to you then
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>>153160767
>The price includes content you're not interested in, it doesn't make the content you actually want overpriced.
I dont know if you're just trolling him or something but thats the most retarded fucking logic iv seen all day.
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>>153160823
how to pull a bowstring without muscles?
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>>153146773
Humans get along with Elves and Dwarves pretty well. There are lots of Dwarven Merchants and Elves in the human kingdoms. Elves and Dwarves hate each other, but aren't about to go to war.

Basically, Humans, Elves, and Dwarves are all kinda shitty in their own right, but then the three of them look around and see Orks, Beastmen, Skaven, and Chaos and go "Okay, maybe we can sort of be friends."
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>>153161162
>still no link
Where is this magic BM DLC anon? You promised there was a non scam version not including the minicampaign.

Im waiting
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ANCIENT EMPIRES FUCKING WHEN
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>>153161021
>tomb kings mod

I'd rather wait for the official ones
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>>153161253
the basic Empire citizen fucking hates Elves though
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>>153161246
How do they stand upright without muscles? How do they walk without muscles? How do they swing a sword without muscles?

Magic, nigga. Spooky magic.
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>>153161187
>in b4 le ebin HURR FOOD ANALOGIES meme

You're calling an apple pie overpriced because you just want the apples
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>>153160362
>You have more content so you pay more
And what about when that 'more' content is something no one wanted, put in to ump up the price while holding what people actually want hostage?

>Here is the new Lizardmen DLC
>It comes with a Ferrari, so you have to pay $500,000
>Well thats bullshit I just want Lizardmen, and that Ferrari isnt worth that price anyway
>YOU GET MORE CONTENT YOU PAY MORE
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>>153161292
>You promised there was a non scam version not including the minicampaign.

This quickly got into full delusional level, are you sure you haven't been arguing with someone else on another board? It's ok anon, that can happen.
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>>153161435
The basic Empire citizen is an inbred hick with a life expectancy of 25. The most common cause of death is "raped by beastniggers until more cum than man".
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>>153159024
Mostly because they go no update in over a decade.

So as the editions went a long they suffered from not being built around the newer rule sets. You just had to make do with what you had and hope it would work against the modern armies.

Plus GW are fucking shit at balancing or making games.
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>>153161438
>food analogy
Kill yourself. Analogies are what faggots use when they have no argument left. Thank you for at least confirming my suspicion that you are in fact retarded. Also, shitty fucking example. I can go buy the fucking apples anywhere, I cant go buy Beastmen without the minicampaign.
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Flagellants better sing some religious stuffs when you make them walk
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>>153160823
>those stupid jerkins and helmets
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>>153161646
Gold.
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>>153161435
The average peasant might hate elves, but his opinion is pointless. Who cares what the stupid peasants think?

The city humans sure don't hate elves or dwarves. Dwarven and Elven goods are high commodities, and High Elves taught the humans magic. They've also been a pretty decent ally for a while now.
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ogre kingdoms r kool guys i m o
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>>153161779
Keep calm anon, finish your posts
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>>153161646
>>153161438
Someone get this shill a potion he just got BTFO.
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>>153161905
Please stop, I can only get my attention on the other more deserving anon
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Beastmen are fun as fuck, glad I'm not autistic.
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>>153161646
Hey, wait, he said inB4, you cant do that. Its like, a law or something
Also,
>The common enemy is CA people
lets remember it
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>>153162114
Ouch, someone is upset. Calm down.
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>>153161438
>2016
>STILL using food analogies

You can easily buy apples in any store btw
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>>153162165
Finish the post you deleted halfway before saying that
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How does one become as awesome as Karl "the MAN" Franz?
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>>153162114
>STOP POINTING OUT IM RETARDED
Why dont you go bake an apple pie and shove it up your ass with your shitty analogies.

>>153162142
>The common enemy is CA people
The common enemy is whoever the fuck thought minicampaigns were a good idea.
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>>153162307
Inherit a vast and wealthy land and powerful allies.
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>>153160823
Could be worse
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>>153162282
>everyone is the same person!
>ad hominem because I lost face!
Thank you and goodnight.
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>>153162114
>glad I'm not autistic.
>he says being unable to admit the fact he got scammed buying beasts
I also purchased beasts, I also know I got scammed, I just dont care. You're literally autistic though.
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>>153162480
>calls out ad hominem when his side has been doing the same

At least come up with something that doesn't make you look like someone that just butted in to get upvotes. I have to say that you guys have been too easy to predict so far.
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>It's a people arguing over DLC episode

Next Friday can't come soon enough.
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>>153162338
I dont have beastmen, but I like mini campaigns. Ive played the shit out of The Last Roman.
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>>153162706
I could have actually played something during all of this but I couldn't resist. At least I got a good laugh out of it.
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>>153162749
TLR was good thou, this wasnt.

>>153162706
It wouldnt even be /twg/ if there wasnt 1 idiot pretending CA are not greedy jews and everyone else pointing out how stupid he is.
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>>153162338
Minicampaigns are great and I hope Warhammer gets as many of them as possible.
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>>153162846
>>153162617
>i was just pretending to be retarded!
>haha, that food analogy right guys! good joke right?
Hoo boy. I think we broke him.
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>>153162852
>everything is CA's fault

Fucking idiot, it's probably GW's or sega's idea.
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>>153158226
Don't they need to expand the map before Tomb Kings? First big expansion should go there then, no?
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>>153162852
TLR was the practically the exact same thing though. You chew your way through 3 giant factions one at a time with your horde.
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>>153162953
>being this predictable

Come up with a meme or something, you're just parroting greentext by now
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>>153162902
*non warhammer minicampaigns are great

>>153162969
GWS have no impact on pricing. Sega does but not on specific DLC.

Plus lets not forget CA got into bed with Sega willingly. That used to be a huge shitstorm too but people forgot about it.
>next on the list is Paradox that just lost 5% of their shares to Tencent
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>>153162902
here's your (you)
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>>153163079
>non warhammer minicampaigns are great

>1 minicampaign out of an unknown amount has been bad so they will all be bad
>rome 2 was bad so all total war games will be bad

That's how much of a retard you are, fyi.
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>>153162165
Yes, you really should.

>>153162338
What are you even talking about? You really must be autistic.

>>153162597
>all this projection
Damn, I didn't know I'd trigger you this badly, I never said the campaign wasn't a scam, calm your literal autism.
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>>153162846
>At least I got a good laugh out of it.
He says crying himself to sleep because hes a moron.
>its not a scam guys! think of the apples!
>>
all me
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>>153163079
Minicampaigns in general are great. They break up the monotony of playing just the grand campaign, and Warhammer has a lot of fun potential scenarios for them to take place.
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>>153163029

It would be the best choice since it would give dorfs and O&G a more active campaign.

Empire players will also have to be scared shitless. Either you're lucky and dorfs will come up from the pass. Or, you're unlucky and orcs come through.

Or, heavens forbid, tomb kings come up. And that would be terrifying because that means they've stomped not only all orcs, but also all the dorfs.
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>>153163164
>started replying to everyone
Yup, hes broken. Everyone stop or else he might kill himself.
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>>153163278
dorfs and greenies will prolly need to deal with Skaven, Kangz, and Ogres by the time the game is complete.
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>that guy who came up and started pretending to be me

A fellow bored anon I see
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>>153163164
>3 replies
>none of them is an argument
are you that mad?
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>>153163284
>make a post
>three people reply to it
>reply to the three said people
>OH SHIT GUIZ HE GUN KILL HIMSELF
You seriously need to seek help, you legitimately have autism.
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>>153163343

D-don't forg-get the ch-chaos dwarfs...
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>>153162452
Empire Trollhammer Reikland Grailguard Torpedo Cavalry (Artillery)
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>>153163142
>comparing a fantasy game where each new faction is a huge amount of new content to the campaign
>to history games where a new faction means jack fucking shit in 99% of cases and its only the minicampaigns that break away from the period that stand out
Kill yourself as well.
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>>153163412
There wasn't anything to argue against, just retards throwing a fit about apple pies or something, why should I construct a well thought out argument against a guy who's literal only statement was "shove an apple pie up your ass" at random?

What would that even be?

See, this is why I think you legitimately have autism.
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>>153163142
>minicampaigns for history games are normally whole new periods
>minicampaigns for Warhammer are like linear main campaigns but with less factions
Yeaaaah, na.

I would rather a faction over a minicampaign any day for Warhammer. Adding even a single new race is a world of new content to either play as or against. You cant do the same thing in any history games
>Lets add slavs!
>its germanics but with poison arrows
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>>153163375
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>>153163459

>no arguments so just resorts to "kill yourself"

I bet you aren't even him, you're just a fellow memer
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>>153163583
>argues
>get btfo
>rather than retort or admit he was wrong has a bitch fit replying to everyone trying to pretend he was just enjoying himself the whole time to save face
See the funny thing here is that everyone knows you're upset, and that you're shitposting now because you know you were wrong all along. So even though you were not the bigger man and admit it it changes nothing.

Good luck in life anon, you're going to need it.
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>>153163583
>why should I construct a well thought out argument
if you are going to shill, at least have the decency to post arguments

>ad homs
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>>153163645
I made my argument clear, ignore them all you want all you did was prove you realized im right.
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>>153163739
>literally random greentext
Stopped there. Please try harder with your trolling/rampant autism.

>>153163745
>le ad homs
That's LITERALLY all that was given to me when I made a post, you faggots flipped your shit and are now just being completely random.

Good job.

And here is proof.
>>153162165
>>153162338
>>153162597
>>153163284
>>153163412
>>153163739
>>153163745

LITERALLY every reply has been ad hominem and random. I am the only one who presented literally anything rational.
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>It's an anon continues to "argue" against other anons who are shitposting episode
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>>153164063
>all of those posts
>not even one (You)

I'm the one who started it all goddamn
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>>153164087
>its rational argument devolves into shitposting when one side loses face episode
Otherwise known as daily /twg/ threads
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These thread derail, I can't even...

???
>>
what's going on in this thread
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>>153164167
No! I'M Shitposticus!
>>
I really, really, really just need to fucking vent. Because Steam is so fucking racist and misogynist, and Valve seems to refuse to want to get up off their lazy asses and fix it.
I'm a huge fan (Or rather I used to be a huge fan) of the Total War franchise, but one of the biggest gripes I've been having with the newer games is how whitewashed and streamlined everything's become. This really starts to show up after Shogun 2, and is a big reason why I'm not planning on bothering with future games . This is especially bad in Rome 2. Egyptians are Arabian looking even though Egyptians at that time period would've still looked ethnically "Black". Rome is 100% white for some reason. It's really, really embarrassing. So, thankfully, I've been able to find a few mods that corrected that:
http://i.imgur.com/ep2Fk3L.png
... Then I scrolled down to the comments:
http://imgur.com/9PPwOcj
Then I was like, "Oh, this can't be a pattern, there has to be another mod that maybe doesn't have a trash comments section-"
http://i.imgur.com/RvkwtMD.png http://imgur.com/9PPwOcj
GOSH. And so I went and checked this other guy's mods. Not only are they downvoted as hell, but...
http://imgur.com/QN9Otwo
So I went to the guy's page, and I noticed that he did a really interesting drawing of an Egyptian God...
http://i.imgur.com/TqxQSE5.png
Y'all Know what's coming
http://imgur.com/kKV3ql9
The worst part is that it's not even just this game that has this bullshit.
http://i.imgur.com/I128urs.png http://imgur.com/qj1DTMC
The same dude ended up doing a review calling out all of the racist comments. Just look at his "liked" ratio:
http://i.imgur.com/p08QOGy.png http://i.imgur.com/xkg9ipI.png
So at this point I'm 100% done. For the record, I actually HAVE reported all of these comments to Steam Support, but because Steam Support doesn't actually moderate for shit, these comments are still up. I just can't take it anymore.
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>>153164167
I literally quoted every post that was a reply to me today, so I'm not sure what you want.
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>>153164241
>>
>just finished new campaign
>wonder what /twg/ is saying about new dlc
>see thread
God fucking dammit it should be a new rule from now on posted in the OP all the time

>CA are jews; you're going to buy that shitty DLC anyway

Cant we all just admit we are shallow as fuck husks of humans who spend any amount on new content because we have no self control regardless of price or quality.
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>>153164241

trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling retards
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>>153164063
no, you were shitposting, and got shitposted for it, well deserved imo

food analogies are the last resource of a desperate fool and make you look like a retard
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>>153164341
>You're literally not allowed to like something, that's shitposting

>food analogies
Stopped here, what the fuck are you talking about? I called shitposters autistic, and you started screaming about apple pies. Neither of us made a food analogy.
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>>153164450
>>153164450
>>153164450

NO (You)ING ALLOWED
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>>153159421
>implying TT Warhams wasn't a charge simulator that didn't even have useful flanking
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>>153164332
/thread

Post it in the OP from now on.
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>>153164341
>he's still mad at the food analogy

I didn't think it would have been that super effective
>>
How do I into mid-late game Empire army comps that don't involve demigryph spam or panzer divisions?
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>>153163375
who are you?
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>>153164476
>defending food analogies poster
even worse
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>>153164916
LITERALLY what are you talking about?
>>
ROW FASTER YOU SLAGS
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>>153164916
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