/rlg/ - Roguelike General

>>153054847
Remember to clean up you're (embed)s

Wow what a shit OP image

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>>153055025
you alright there mate?

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Take it easy.

>>153055224
>tfw you realize they have a head instead of a giant hole

>>153055224

malmuTate it easy

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Oops.

Aside from me being retarded, this run was quite good.
War Vet Observant>Treasure Hunter>Strong Back>Dextrous>Lithe was working out really well so far.
With two mobility perks it seems that you can even outrun Zuul. Probably only because he's erratic though (I think?).

>>153055563
>I

XP reduction test.

Wizmode, I killed Antaeus

without Hep : I leveled up to XL 12 Next : 9
with Hep : I leveled up to XL 12 Next : 24
with 4 large abominations : I leveled up to XL 11, Next : 8

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>>153055320
>Your vampire smiles at you!
>Your vampire says: "I will never leave you, master!"

>>153055719
This is a good post, please keep making it.

>>153054791

Fine by me as long as I get 100% exp and a bodyguard-kun that never gets angry with a swapeepoopee

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>>153055353
I really liked that anon's OC tile for cacos with an eyeball on the belly.
/rlg/ should make a collective effort and make crawl great again.
Speaking of /rlg/, what about that anon that promised to show us his brand new tacticool roguelike at the end of the week?

I remember having my security leak once, it was in the middle of class, too. So embarrassing. Took me ages to recover my security after that.

>>153055956
Making crawl "great again" sounds like a whole lot of effort which could be better put into making something new.

He's dead since he posted his ideas in /rlg/ before his roguelike was feature-complete; the fate of many aspiring aralgeean developers.

>>153055563
>tomb floor
i'm so sorry. Fuck that place when you can't just cloud mind home.

>>153055776
So the ancestor takes XP just like every other summon

>>153056632
He actually increases the xp you gain

I just cant deal with the dumb minion AI in crawl which basically makes it impossible to properly fight at chokepoints

>>153056889
Polearms or digging wands/spell

>>153056889
>>153056921
Also of note, Start as a warper for portal proj on a high laucher apt race.

Can also with high invo kiku delivery in the open, back up, and animate when they're in the middle and tell-wait for the zombs to rip and tear.

>>153056154
Well working with already created assets is much easier than trying to make a whole new game from scratch, especially for a small half-dead general like rlg. Slowly and steadily, one change at a time, warping crawl on some kind of democratic basis into something to fit our collective views of what it should be seems to be within the realms of possibility for me, and that way we could also possibly elude the "fate of many aralgeean developers" you mentioned.

>>153057245
DCSSCA is already great crawl

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you know what to do

>>153057302
>undead can mutate
It's shit.

Man, did they nerf minotaur labyrinth? All im getting is shit loot in there anytime i go in

>>153058715
Nah, it's what you get for being inflexible.

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Oh no what do now?

>>153062584
You regret going Chei and take a leap of faith

>>153062584
Bend time and punch them to death? Where's your regen and reflect missiles? Do you really have no consumables before that blink? why are you only doing something now at 48 hp? There was a lot of shit you fucked up well before you got to this point. what are you saving those rations for, nuclear winter?

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So, I got a deep elf on the akrasiac rlgrobin account, he almost has fireball castable and already has sticky flame. Been abusing the hell out of a branded sling too. First to take the character gets to taste the fat xp of these OoD yaks with muh sticky flame. Robe of rC, 2 !brilliance and !magic

>Death Knight on D:10

Who designed this

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An omen of things to come

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>>153062752
>>153063546
crying

>>153065465
Rip, thats what you get for worshiping chei nerd
Post morgue file

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>>153065376
The shape reminds me of some Zot:5 layout.
A good omen, that is.
Really made me think tho, good post minotaur friend.

>>153065465
Your the silliest man in the history of the universe. You're iq is too low to live on earth and you will be banished to space while my wife sucks my penis

>>153064989
>waaah crawl is too easy
>devs buff the fuck out of OoDs
>waaa crawl is too hard

>>153065696
Who are you quoting?

>>153065810
This response is a sure indicator of butthurt

>>153065581

Rip in pieces

http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/kraktruk/morgue-kraktruk-20160827-163136.txt

how sore am I going to be if I as a beginner bypass Brogue/DCSS/etc. and jump right into nethack?

>>153066028
Not very much, nethack can actually be won more reliably than crawl once you get good and almost anyone can get past the early game by playing it moderately safe

>>153065928
You had tele, 2 scrolls of blinking.. What the fuck were you doing maaaaaaaaaaan

>>153066569
Tele takes much longer to kick in on the orbrun and blink can't be controled

>>153066723
It would buy you a lot of time and i know its not controller it would still help you a lot

>>153066723

He had blurry vision mutation and couldnt use blink from abilities cause he was too low on health, for some reason you cant blink anymore on low health? Im not him but im his dad and i watched him play and it was embrassing.

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I'm gonna need a bigger spellbook for all this free xp

>>153067264
What the fuck lmao, stop it

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>>153068306
Yeah I kinda fucked up
No source of healing and I need it to get close to sticky flame it

>>153068497
Wasn't supposed to quote that

>>153068497
Evoke foot to the next stairs?

>>153068497
Just run, you got this

>>153068834
I mean there was the chance that energy randomization could have fucked me over but I did manage to get to the next floor and got the Kiku book gift

Deep elf is now on D:10 due to being shafted. I grabbed a few levels of necromancy from killing a hill giant, whoever plays it next prepare for a magic duel with Fannar

Now that I've won as a melee dude how do I into spellcasters? I can never make it much farther than the Orc 3, once I hit the Lair Branches I die. I like the idea of a Mummy Necromancer, but actually playing one is pretty challenging.

>>153071106
>Now that I've won as a melee dude how do I into spellcasters?
DEFE or DECj is the strongest spellcaster combination.

>I like the idea of a Mummy Necromancer, but actually playing one is pretty challenging.
Mummy's aptitude to magic is almost garbage.
With -2 aptitude to everything. you need to grind harder and since you'll only get 3 runes, all of the undead advantage is almost non-existant.

>burns you terribly.

>>153071106
DrCj. Fairly sturdy albeit middling apts. GrEE/DECj are glass cannons.
NaVM if you want to meme
MuWz if you need motivation to kill yourself

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Well shit, what do I do now?

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Ghoul is pretty cruise control for 15 runes.

>>153071106
>>153072493
HONe of Kiku is a good dark horse. Get middling melee skills, Axe or bardiche dudes, use zombies, agony, and your pain brand to dunk on shit. You can go for haunt or bulkier melee. It's good fun.

You can also go warper or skald, pick up a launcher/melee and worship beogh. It's kind of funny to have a bunch of hasted orcs behind you as you facetank or obliterating enemies with portal projectile or misdirecting, confusing, and englaciating foes while an invisible pack of orcs comes and liberates them

>>153072601
>15 runes faster than I can even pickup 3
Ow.

>>153066028
it depends on how interested you are in looking up everything you see on the wiki

without heavy spoilers winning nethack is pretty much impossible, but it can get much easier if you know what's up

DCSS ogre god tier list (focused on early to mid survival)

Top tier
- Hep - even with frail 1 turning all fights into 2v1 makes the game a lot easier, and you get the ancestor immediately on joining
- Okawaru - Heroism is fucking amazing
- Trog

Good tier
- Fedhas - move him to the top tier if you have the patience for the endless positioning struggle
- Lugonu - just get to *** and you're set
- Makhleb - see Lugonu
- Nemelex - would be top tier if a) getting decks of summoning didn't depend on luck and b) decks of destruction wouldn't kill you
- TSO - accuracy bonus and a shield helps more than you might think
- Yred - just get a foothold on a level and you're fine

Average tier
- Ely - Heal Other helps a lot in Lair and Swamp/Spider, but self healing isn't very impressive
- Gozag
- Jiyva - jellies eating items are bad
- Ru - additional handicaps aren't all that great

No real help tier
- Ash - playable but there are better options
- Chei - you deal more damage but can't run, -3 apts in magic still there, UC ogre is fucking horrible early
- Dith
- Kiku - -3 in Necromancy, gets better in extended
- Sif Muna - does nothing unless you have guardian spirit
- Vehumet - for once his gifts will go faster than you can use them

Atheist would be better tier
- Qazlal - ogres can't fight more than 1 enemy at a time
- Xom - fucks you up for fun
- Zin - can't do this, can't do that, in exchange you can maaaaybe confuse an orc. Wow. Gets better when you don't need him anymore.

Removed from the game tier
- Pakellas - otherwise would be in average or good tier

>>153067264
you can't blink on low health because the +blink mutation costs health

>>153072493
>gree glass cannon
>in a 3 rune
>implying things that check AC are less common than smite/hellfire
are you one of those silly billies who doesn't know that ac applies to spell damage
hellfire basically doesn't exist in the first 3 runes, and you have lrd to smite smiters right back

fcrawl link is dead, can anyone share the file?

>>153072925
They removed Pakellas already?

Newfag here, trying to play cataclysm. Starting a new world but not sure how to confirm the settings. Right arrow and tab work for switching between columns, but not in advancing to world gen or the start.

>>153073510
Yep.

Tell me about the Hep. Why does he blast the ice?

>>153073538
>

>>153065465
While I know that feel, and it sucks, I'm curious. Why is your MP still so high? Where is your Might, Agility, or Brilliance? Why didn't you evoke/read Teleportation? Why didn't you Step from Time? How on earth did some random Panlord kill you without a scratch?

>>153073995
He blew all his piety on being a cuck apparently.

>>153073510
These are the crawldevs we're talking about here, you have to remember that if they haven't found anything suitable for removal in the last 24 hours they start to get the shakes. They've obviously decided at this point that adding features just to remove them a week later is better than going into withdrawal.

>>153072512
How did you even get over the lava?

>>153073843
Thank you.

>>153074281
That's where the staircase took me. It's surrounded by lava.

>>153072925
Is umbra that weak? I thought Dith is good for ogres.

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That's okay, I didn't like that character anyways.
i was on a fucking three win streak god dammit

>>153074818
>wyvern on d:3

>>153074387
From the wiki
>To cross lava, use levitation, fireproof water walking boots, flying, or a cold attack to freeze it. Walking over lava without fire resistance will damage you every turn you do it.
If you have fire resistance, you can walk into it and survive, but you'll take damage and you might burn all your stuff to pieces.

>>153075035
if you have fire resistance AND fireproof water walking boots

>>153074882
how am i supposed to evoke feet against that anon
how

>>153075035
Fuck me and I dropped my frost wand a while back, thanks mate. Guess i'll fuck around the main dungeon for a while.

>>153075213
When you see something that's faster than you, and that you can't kill, you start read-IDing scrolls and quaff-IDing potions. You had ~8 turns to go through unID'd stuff before it even reached you, and several afterward too. Did you die with stuff unID'd in your inventory?

>>153075231
I think Dynahack has a search function of some kind.

>>153075567
I had two turns from when it was in los until I died, thanks very much.
I technically should have read my unidentified scrolls, but the chance that would have saved me was very low, because only fear or blinking into teleportation would have done it.

>>153071106
You just gotta play carefully. I actually perfer to start out mummy wizard, then go necromancer once I get a book from Kiku. The mepthitic cloud from the wizard starting spellbook works really really well with undead minions, better than the necromancer's starting spellbook does, since Kiku will give you those.

>>153075773
Still a better idea than trying to melee/ruk it. Maybe quaff potions instead: curing would probably be the largest stack, healing the second-largest, and might/brilliance/agility/haste/etc. have about the same chance.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my team in the 0.10 tournament, and I've been involved in numerous tavern threads, and I have over 300 confirmed wins. I am trained in turncount speedrunning and I'm the top greaterplayer in the DCSS community. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the IRC? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spectators across the Webtiles servers and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the tabstorm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your winrate. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can scum you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with a bread ration. Not only am I extensively trained in Claws III unarmed combat and transmutations, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the crawl devteam and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn badplayer.

>>153075680
I might have gotten confused with a previous run actually, lava is instantly lethal right?

>>153076040
Potions would't have saved me. I don't think you understand how much stronger a wyvern is than a level four character. I could have gotten haste and ran away, but that's lower odds than the scrolls, and would have been a worse play.

>>153076291
Yes, unless you have fire resistance. In that case, it merely has a delay on its instant lethality.

>>153076432
to clarify: with fire resistance you will still be stuck in the lava and unable to escape, and after a few turns you will sink to the bottom and die

>>153074775
I suppose it's not that bad, but I'm personally biased against Dith, which is probably why he's not in average tier. Besides all gods in average tier are better than him.

slex-playing anon: I've found out why you were getting repeatable crashes by copying your save over to my account and testing. Apparently it's the randomized appearance of your speed boots; somehow I fucked up their effect. I'm sorry about that, and will push a fix on Monday morning. Up to then, if you want to go on playing, I fear you have to do so without the speed boots. :(

>>153076432
Welp, nevermind, nymph stole most of my shit (including excalibur) and I went full retard.

Bitches man

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>>153077680
Jesus fucking christ i'm such an idiot, it is just not my day today.

I think i'll call it quits for now.

>>153077680
I don't even know what to mock first in this screenshot

hastefinesse actually no longer stack now, for the first time in history

https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4ecb74722be253ae975a96b98f67d929183b092d

>>153077909
>>153077680
>File Deleted
O i am laffing. What was it?

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I drew a dick xdd

>>153077917
>Because the haste and haste-cancelling multiplications use random rounding, haste + finesse still doesn't behave exactly the same as Finesse.
or does it

>>153078795
it makes your attack speed more random

>>153078389
He posted a screenshot with QUALITY RLG CROPPING where you could see everything in his screen except the actual game because he cropped it

>>153074775
When I played more Og^Dith was pretty legit, the umbra granted a noticeable evasion boost and you get a lot of extra damage with the shadow club.

>>153077306
Actually, I pushed a hotfix right now, and extensive testing suggests that the bug is gone. Your savegame is still there, except the speed boots should work correctly again. Have fun, and sorry again for the trouble! See you on IRC! :)

>>153080242
you should get extra exp if you kill them both on the same turn

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Here we go

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Learning to play casters. It seems I didn't consider this situation

Also, is it a pipe dream to get Shatter up in a 3-rune if I also plan on getting Firestrom?

>>153085013
Nope, totally possible if you're planning to do V.

am i the only person that plays ASCII? Tiles lok silly as fuck to me

>>153084954
Well, there were 5 of them and i lost 1/4 of my hp, gotten slept like 3 or 4 times..

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>>153085432
I'm playing console, but making caps via tiles. Because else people start complaining that they can't figure it out.

>>153086465
>google this
PONYPOSTEEER

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>>153086465
>>153086987
That is kind of hilarious.

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>>153086987
>>153086465

Is all I get to do as a TrFi tab shit with my claws?

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>>153087669
>>153087129
>>153086987

>>153087896
No. You get to throw the ruk

>>153087896
Well, you *can* go Chei and statueform+tornado.
Also, large rocks are awesome. Use them.
If you're a hipster, you can go giant spiked clubbing.

>>153065696
Some people say it's gotten easier though.

>>153088338
Already invested into Unarmed, so I guess I'll stick with that, but will invest into some Throwing for so called large rocks.

>>153088443
Well yeah. I'm playing 0.14 and it's way more interesting.

>>153069780
what server? I'll play just for the duel

>>153088553
Transmutilations boost unarmed a lot.

>>153088751
>Transmut
So I have to hope I find the right book?

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>>153088875
Yeah. I love starting as a TrTm too. Easy and fun.
>>153088597

>>153088875
transmut on a troll sounds like a massive waste of xp

>>153088875
You generally don't have a problem since there's a decent one in a lot of books that aren't rare

>>153088597
Someone killed the character a while ago it seems

>>153088875
>>153088938
>>153088997
>not going TrAsh

What's that command to search everything thats been spotted in your current game? Looking for a particular item.

>>153089218
Ctrl F
boi

>>153089078
I do have a TrTm^Ash win.

>>153089218
Ctrl+f ..
But if you're deep enough it will ask you to refine your search because of too many entries.

>>153089291
>>153089361

Well shit, that was obvious, thanks guys.

>>153086465
>ponyposter escaped the AA retreat
I was rooting for you too.

>>153089361
I didnt mean TrTm^Ash..

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So this is how it ends... I should have just left the level.

>>153089559
I've never drunk alcohol in my life, also this is the first time I've posted anything remotely pony related here. You're probably mistaking me for someone.

>>153090068
How the fuck is your ac and ev so low?

>>153090068
>he tried to walk away
lmao, can't believe you actually fell for that noob trap

>>153090153
there was a different ponyposter before
i think he was schizophrenic or something

>Unfortunately, eating any of it is fatal.
rip

>>153090305
I dunno man, I was a troll with a robe.

>>153090305
ac is low because he's a troll

ev is low because he fell for the "don't train dodging" meme

>>153090374
With dodging, dex and heroism you'd been much more resilient.

>>153089218
I think discoveries is in \
use the list of commands

>>153090374
And you didnt even pop heroism at least..

>>153090687
I tried to but I emergency quaffed first, after I berserked from a pot, it was over. I had tried fighting him once before with Hero on and failed to do any damage at all.

so i think that the whole "quaff lig and read immo for the V5 ambush" was a bad idea.... just lost my first win to that...

>>153090995
You fucking idiot

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I have to wonder what managed to heavily wound this thing. All I can see from a distance are zombie children corpses.

Probably something dumb like standing in its own fire, but I want to believe.

>>153090995
You don't quaff lignification for that, just immo. I think you may be confusing it for the lig + torment TRJ strategy.

And the immo strat only works if you have good HP and at a minimum rF++

>>153091056
hadnt tried it anon, now i know this was also the only character to make it this far ;-;

>>153090995
Why uh... Why would you do that? I mean, you're essentially casting EXPLOSION! that virtually the entire floor of endgame monsters hears. Are you thinking of the Tomb:3/TRJ lig immo meme?

What god for a TeAa?

>>153091402
>>153091323
yeah, i mixed those up... and the worst part is i couldve pretty easily tabbed through all of them ;-;

>>153091324
Well it is a viable option, but dont cast tree form before that.. You need atleast rF++ to survive the blasts and something to proc the first kill from afar like some wand or disc of storms or whatever, you can even leave some summons down there and pray for the best, but please never, but never ever use tree form in vaults:5

>>153091445
Chei and tabnado.
Yred/Kiku/Fedhas/TSO/Makh and airstrike/polearm from behind allies
Xom and collect the muts. wild magic will win it.
Oka and enjoy more great gear so you can bonk
Sif channeling
Makhleb and use Sublimation of blood and lesser homos
Dith for double damage
Hep for a dude. Make sure to reeeeeeeeeeee at your -30% hp which isn't bad
Gozag and buy lots of gear and potions of magic.
Ash for skill boosting
Veh cause you're a self-hating preppy

>>153091164
D'awww, it was playing with kiddies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jteKrP18cTU

>>153091164
Beep boop, fuck the green team.

Anybody have any tips for traversing the abyss as a pure melee character? Fighting resulted in my hp whittling down whereas running resulted in a whole bunch of enemies eventually suffocating me to death.

Am I supposed to just kill key specific enemies and move on, get out if it takes too long and try again, or do I just have shitty luck with how long it took me to find the rune? (1252 turns after entering level 5)

>>153091164
IIRC it has explosives and fire so it just got caught up in itself in the purge.

>>153093034
Do it as your 6th rune. Stay on abyss:3 which is much more manageable. Memorize regen or spam trog's hand. Use disint/dig and corners as necessary. Try to have some kind of range/aoe to whittle starcursed back down. Deeper you go the more often you're gonna take heavy damage while getting more adds with smiting/torment/summoning.

>>153093034
Take regen with you, you heal on the move

>>153093034
Usually you don't want to enter Abyss:5, you stick to Abyss:3 until you get the rune vault. A:5 has incredible high spawn rate, so high that you might never rest until full health as a regen'd troll. Rule of thumb is: kill popcorn and run from bone dragons etc. until you find a rune vault

>>153093034
The chance of spawning rune depends on seen squares. Tele around or run diagonally to maximize your new squares/turn rate.
The chance of spawning exit depends on gained exp or seen squares. Kill monsters if you're tough enough, else tele or run diagonally.

>>153093250
>>153093330
Well shit, I didn't even know that the rune could spawn in levels 3 and 4. I could have stayed in those levels easily. I brought my own death by trying to traverse level 5 I guess.

I guess I should bother to look up how pandemonium works too, so I don't end up throwing my life away meaninglessly there. That or stop trying to go for a 15 rune as my first win.

>>153093034
Abuse corners and choke points, kill stuff that can mutilate you or pain you or inflict damage from distance, like stars, cacidemons or wahtever the big yellow ones or anything that can spawn additional shit, make sure to shift x and then v to examine them and see if they can cast anything and such, sometimes shapeshifters can be a pain as well and watch out for bubbles, i forgot their real name, they can paralyze you and electric or guardian golem or whatever, they can be harsh as well and sometimes tentacles and such but rest is easy cake
Make sure you stay on abyss:3 for maximum safety just to be sure and just try to explore around, look for lava, water or any regular shapes like a square, octagons or anything that has some sort of glass around, usually a rune is close to it, also sometimes if you notice lot of vortexes, theres a chance a rune is somewhere nearby

>>153093762
Pan: if you don't get a message that this level has an unique rune on entering — leave it for the next one. Also know your enemies. This is all.

>>153093762
Pan is actually very simple. Each floor is like like a dungeon floor. The terrain doesn't move, there isn't a large spawn rate and there are no effects. You can clear them out like you would a dungeon.

Only thing to worry about are pan lords, randomly generated monsters that range from very easy to quite tough. Each floor has one. In addition, there are four major pan lords who are probably the strongest monsters in the game, and if you encounter one of their levels you have to grab the rune then and there or else it'll be gone forever. For this reason, don't do Pan unless you're strong enough to fight them or willing to give up a rune permanently.

>>153093762
Youll get a warning when a rune is on that floor youre on right now when you enter, something like 'you sense a presence of xyz rune' or similar. If you dont see that text, try to find an exit out or a new portal and just go again and again and again..
Also learn your enemies here as well, learndb and wiki can help a lot with that and theres always an examine option

>>153094123
>>153093987
Same text, heh.

>>153094212
Nothing more to say desu, pan isnt that hard if you know what youre doing, only thing that can fuck you up badly is running into hellion island, getting multiple hellions in your view and not abusing fov/choke points properly or a panlord gets airstrike/shatter/something to fuck you up

>>153094426
>tfw landing in hellion island

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Thanks a lot for the tips everyone. Here's to hoping I manage to get resistances anywhere near as good as this again.

>>153094567
>14 (23)
>-5 (6)
>0 (23)
>2 ev
L O L

>>153094567
I can safely say right now that you in all likelihood won't

>>153094567
mummy death curse brainless paralysis?

>>153094567
gee bill how come ur mom lets you have 8 rPois?

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>>153094849
I was a ghoul, wasn't paying attention to my stats as I was panicking through abyss 5. When I tried to read a scroll and it failed I finally noticed, but it was far too late. I still don't know why I thought I wouldn't experience stat loss. I probably got it confused with mutations since it was like 4am. I just remember thinking "I wonder why my max hp isn't rotting as fast as I thought it would."

>>153094567
>only missing resist is Sustain Abilities
>his ability scores are completely fucked

>>153090995

good riddance for those who fall for noobtraps

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>>153094668
It's okay. Oka has my back.

>>153094567
>maxed elemental resistances
>rCorr
>nigh magic immunity
Anon I...

>>153095137
He got a shitty font, it's ∞

Alright /rlg/, I want to start a SESt on Lantea as rlgrobin for the sweet experience of butchering with cursed maces, preservation cloaks and unID'd wands. First, there are two versions with Sludge Elves and Stalkers, 0.10 and 0.11, what will it be? Second, is there any interest?

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>>153096078
Not that hard to get if you follow the jewish god.

>>153096361

>helmet unavailable

it's shit

>>153096563
Not like I need it. Spellpower's maxed.

>>153096361
>61 int
>all those muts
>Rugged 3 and robust 3
Jesus christ

>>153096649
Amulet of mana regen + powered by death + mana link = never ever run out of mana. Can't spend that much.

>>153096649
Robust 1 though. Got a bit too enthusiastic with my !oBeneMut, ended up with mutation lock.

>>153095137
Shit, it made me look thru his equipment, nice one

>>153096127
>thatsthejoke.jpg

When do eath elementalists start getting fun? I'm getting to lair with a GrEE and so far it's been hurr stone arrow and a sparsely trained mace for popcorn

>>153098180
Lair? You petrify and LRD shit.

>>153098180
Depends on your plan. I prefer to go Chei, wear heavy armour and blow up errythin'

>>153098587

more like blow yourself up because ur a cheishitter LOL

>>153097616
Nice permab& you got there

>>153099093
> !lg . won /chei
> 40/76 games (won): N=40/76 (52.63%)

>>153099292

nice 3 rune """win"""rate u got

>>153099292
Tasonir?

>>153099690
33x 3, 16x 4, 14x 15, 7x 5, 3x 6, 12, 9, 10
>>153099823
Nop.

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>>153100534

>33x 3
>16x 4

>>153101086
Still more 15s than you will ever have.

>>153100534
>40/76 won games with chei
>you list way more than 40 wins

Something's not adding up here.....

>>153101306
You don't know the syntax.

>>153101086
What of it? 15's just a tedious pain in the ass as you mash regen all day. Once you've done it a couple times fuck it.

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>>153101170

>not even 1/30th of my total 15 rune wins

>>153101537
15s are still interesting if you're doing it for a common or tournament achievement.

>>153101629
Nah, you're too dumb to get the greatlairer achievement.

>>153101629
>He says as he doesn't even link his akrasiac

>>153101813
To be fair I didn't link mine either.

>>153101813
that other faggot didn't link his account either, so why bother?

>>153102162
The difference, IMO, is that you're not being a faggot.

>>153102162
And? why smugpost if you aren't even gonna back it up?

>>153096361
TWO MILLION GOLD
how many mega zigs is that

>>153102403
37 and going.
I've spent a lot on >>153086465 though.

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>>153096997
>Robust 1 though. Got a bit too enthusiastic with my !oBeneMut, ended up with mutation lock.
You can clear mutation lock with magical contamination.
Clear that mutlock 3 garbage, drink all of your benmut and get at least robust 3 and high mp 3.

Mutation resistance 3 and its interaction with contamination. Mutation resistance is a "beneficial" mutation that gives 100% mutation resistance AND mutation removal. When you've hit rank 3, your mutations are locked. There are, however, several ways to unlock these mutations, primarily through divine powers. Zin will allow the player to cleanse himself of mutations (can't, I'm a spooky demon!). Jiyva loves to shuffle mutations and gives an option to remove bad ones - already killed TRJ though, so that's not an option. Finally, Xom gets a kick out of playing with the players genes and will gladly add and remove mutations as he pleases. Can you imagine scumming xom trying to remove 1 specific mutation? It would take ages.
However, there is a fourth option that I did not realize existed, which was both the solution and the problem to the situation I found myself in. Mutagenic glow is caused by yellow contamination and higher and for Xom knows what reason is able to pierce through mut resistance rank 3. I noticed that I was gradually losing good mutations and gaining bad ones and had to do some investigation into what was happening. When the stars aligned I would get yellow contam through buff spam and miscasts, lich form would wear off, and my fleshy body would be subject to Mutagenic glow induced malmutation.

After some brainstorming we realized that the solution to this problem was to actually use contamination to remove mutation resistance 3, strip all of my mutations away, and then drink a shit ton of benemuts to get back up to baseline. And so, I did just that. After 30 minutes of spamming myself with irradiate I finally removed mut res 3 and was able to get back to a perfect mutation set.

>>153104056
Literally the perfect muts.
>we

>>153104056
I know, but scumming for this one mutation is pretty tedious, I'm saving it for when I hit about 80 zigcount and become bored enough.

>>153094008
or you can just blink past them, apport the rune and teleport away

>>153104587
And then maybe get double ganged on the next level.

>>153104056
How the fuck did you not end up with the other aux attack mutations

>>153104778
Fighting Lom in the other pan levels is a good thing though

>>153106220
Depends. If it's the island or the eye prison...

>>153106067
He's paid the megazigg toll to our lord and savior RNGesus.

>>153106220
>You sink into the deep water and disintegrate
Will never not be funny.

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>>153106220
>tfw hasted, killholing some trash
>Lom Lobon comes into view

>>153104778
then just repeat the previous step or tele away if it's not a rune level

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Picked this baby up for 2000 gold, totally worth it

>>153106797
You what.
My friend just won using Singing/Zong.
Are you his evil twin?

lol just realized reaping does nothing since I worship gozag, still totally worth it

>>153106941
maybe

>>153106797
>tfw sword of the death knight is gone

>>153107130
Yeah, the changes are mostly quite dumb.
The new branch looks pretty good though.

>>153107130
>great sword of pain
nothing of value was lost

>>153106067
>How the fuck did you not end up with the other aux attack mutations

I modified crawl's source code to get that screenshot.
In real game, it's not possible to get perfect mutation sets without fucking up your body slot because they're considered as "good" mutation by devs.

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>rod acquirement loophole is gone

why do the devs keep bullying us?

>>153107687
>it only got removed after it heavily discussed on /rlg/
they hate us ;_;

>>153107687

>bloat acquirement is gone

good

http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=4ecb74722be253ae975a96b98f67d929183b092d
do they fucking read these threads

>>153107908
Remember when that guy said "I opened a pull request"?
That anon is (GenericPseudonym), the guy credited as the bug reporter.

>>153107908
Nah, some of the people here contribute. the guy in question was so assblasted he got btfo he's coded a "fix" so he's no longer wrong.

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>>153107908
ENOUGH

>>153107908

lmao I swear I'm not gonna say about any more bugs I detect. Incompetent noobs who don't even play the game deserve nothing.

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>fight a new (to me) type of zombie (husk, I believe)
>wrecks my face
>explodes into smoke when it dies just in case it wasn't bad enough
>shocker brute pops out of the smoke and slams me into a fire truck
>break my arm
>fire bursts from my Uzi until it's empty
>get overwhelmed and die anyway
Was actually pretty fun.

What happens when you kill your target partway through a burst? It seems like the remaining shots just vanish into the ether, though I guess it's possible I somehow missed the rest of the horde.

>>153108157
Carry a fat stack of zombie pheramones once you can make them. It's the only way to cope with swarmed since every single grab is -25 speed and dodging and minor pain vaporizes stats until you're a child.

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>make a valid point
>he makes a pretending to be retarded several images in 1 post
>post a single image
>waaahhhh *resorts to ticket fagging*

/rlg/, not even once

>>153107908
Can we meme them into allowing Yred to get piety from zombies?
>Your Gloorx Vloq the Spectre gestures wildly while chanting

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>>153108353
It's dangerous to go alone. Take this!

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>bug gets removed, even says in the code that it shouldn't work as it does
>lmao fukkin' newfags, not even once so retarded okawaru is useless now omg
Never change /rlg/.

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>>153108724

So how's your asshole going? It's just a prank

>>153108353
>make a valid point
He didn't though. The bug was part of the method he was using to support his points, not the points themselves (which were wrong).

>>153108897
I just thought it was amusing. I'm not actually butthurt or anything. My asshole is a little chapped from shitty toilet paper. Thanks for asking though.

I can't believe someone was so butthurt about being wrong that they made a dev change the code so they could be right in the end

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>>153109076

>he didn't though
>needs to resort to ticket fagging to be correct

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It feels so nice to just tab the fuck out of stuff after splatting all those elves. I even have horns 3 for extra tabbing. Minotaurs are just dumb. I tend not to like the races that always end up the same in the end, but they're nice every once in a while.

>>153109557
>Finesse and Haste stacking means statue form increases your delay by 100%, not 50%.

You don't even know what his points were, do you?

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>>153108028
>>153108124
>>153108353
>>153109243
>>153109557
>bugs shouldn't be fixed
No one cares about your fucking argument on 4chan, it's a fucking bug.

That said, holy shit they way they attempt to prevent haste and finesse from stacking is so fucking hacky.
>this ability makes you faster
>this other ability makes you faster at attacking
>these abilities shouldn't stack for attacks
>I know, let's make the first ability make your attacks slower as well as make your attacks faster when you are using the second ability as well
Retarded.

>>153110208
Try a MiTm.
Also,
>scythe

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>>153110208
I feel like every time I play trunk, I find whatever new horror they slap in. Sheep that sleep you? I sure do love MR checks before you get MR.

>>153110495
I'm not actually using the scythe. I got it from a reaper I tabbed to death. I'm using a halberd otherwise. I'm doing minotaur skald, and basically ignoring my spells until I'm rock solid. Super lame, but I've been pretty rusty lately.

>>153110778
I hope you'll be happy to know that these sheep don't check MT then.

>>153110778
Dream Sheep sleep doesn't check MR.
Their emergency spell (which does, I guess) is what's listed there and they only cast it at low HP.

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>>153110778
Also, they come in packs of 3-6 and 28% sleep is with 1 pip of MR from my armour. It'd be 60% with no MR. Why is this a thing?

>>153111026
>>153111041
The percent increased from 28% when I removed my armour though. What does it check if not MR?

>>153111314
They have two abilities. The emergency one checks MR, the passive one that works like that of starcursed masses doesn't.

>>153111514
What a weird monster. I guess I'll wait til I play a non tablord til I pass judgement on them, but they seem really dangerous.

>>153111635
I like them.

>>153107908
Good, that bug's been around for a while.

>>153111737
Definitely fun from a flavor perspective, and spices up lair a bit. I just don't know how dangerous sleep actually is.

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>>153110248
>>153110356

>commit was about Haste+Finesse
>try to insert the already stale shitposting statueform or whatever the fuck
>no one actually cares amirite lads?
>trying this hard to damage control

Cannot fabricate this storyline

>>153111871
90% chance that they will be nerfed, hard.

>>153111314
>YATYHT
What is what?

>>153111891
>amirite lads
Spotted the shitposter.

>>153076156
>What the FeCK did you just MuCKing say about me, you little gnoll? I'll have you know I scored highest on the server in the gnollcrawl tournament, and I've been involved in numerous pillar dances, and I have over 300 confirmed kites. I am trained in slings and blowguns and I've the lowest movedelay in the DCSS community. You are nothing to me but just another Grum. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before without randart slaying, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with throwing a net at me? Think again, sergeant. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of wand users across the Webtiles servers and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the evokers, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your +0 spear. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can scum you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with a fruit. Not only am I extensively trained in halberd kiting and summoning, but I have access to the entire arsenal of Okawaru's gifts and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable gnolls off the face of the Dungeon, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking flail. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn Yiuf.

>>153112930
I'm a little confused, m8. What do you mean?

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>>153113682

>>153113874
spoopy

>>153113874
Huh. I'm not really sure. I want to say its my shit tier cropping skills, since I probably just pasted that right over another screenshot and eye ball'd it until it looked ok.

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>Tfw level 27 MiGl player ghost that resists everything, with 30+ AC and 25+ EV and an antimagic weapon on D:14
Apparently its possible to fuck up the orb run.

>>153114267
Yeah, you can see it in the lower left corner. That's a remnant of the prevous screenshot.

>>153115229
I have definitely gotten killed by a shatter panlord appearing adjacent to me and deciding to cast two turns in a row.

>>153115229
I managed to die on the orbrun once. On d:1. My last blink got burned and the entry vault was the zoo: a long passway with stone walls and chambers with all the species. Two panlords spawned there.

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what did he mean by this?

>>153115686
She was his only friend. He got bullied in the Elf Military School.

Going to try streaming a couple runs of Infra Arcana if anyone wants to watch:

http://streamu.li/ef9b7bce

>>153108028
i did that but im a shitty coder so they just coded their own fix instead of mine

>>153115686
>Two slime creatures merge to form Duvessa. Duvessa screams in rage.

>>153111891
garganon was actually posting about statue form melee speed with hastefinesse though

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>>153115686
>tfw skip them and go down a level
>return much later at full piety
>Duvessa's soul is now ripe for the taking
>tfw you let her kill Dowan

>>153117836
True necromancer.
You can get even better though: make Natasha kill Boris.

>>153117093
dicku?

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>>153117991
I managed to escape with natasha on the orb run back to the exit, but killing Boris with Natasha seems like a whole new level of anal challenge. Can you even keep the agro long enough while tanking iron shots for Natasha to be able to kill him?

>>153118284
No, sorry.

>>153118638
You can silence him, though that still requires that natasha can finish off an almost dead boris before dying to his melee.

>encounter prince ribbit on d4
>can't find him anymore
>find him again on d15

the fuck happened?

>>153119512
shaft

>>153119512
He got shafted a ridiculous amount of times and/or followed you downstairs with you somehow not noticing, probably getting teleported on the exact moment you reached the next level

>>153118638
haste+invis her, guardian golem, enslave deep troll shaman to might her, draw some cards to buff her in other ways, boris in shallow water, etc

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Time to take a peek at that fresh new content.

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>>153122758
What a shit hole.

>>153123515
>rock walls

I kinda expected more salt.

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>>153123606
I was a little sad about that too. White crystal walls or something would be more fitting. These new enemies aren't all that spooky by themselves, but they all synergize really well. Peacekeepers buff saltlings, serpents make them surround you, halazid warlocks basically corpse bomb them on you for damage and so on. There are some myrmidons that cut your MR and hex you too. I wonder if this'll make it in. It'd be really cool once expanded upon, since this place actually has lore and flavour. Its salt flavoured.

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is this better or worse than a +1 scimitar

>>153116760
I thought he was gonna say lover desu

>>153124690
I'd say much better. Venom is actually a good brand, rPois is super handy and your strength will offset the dex loss for a little while, assuming you're going to just wear whatever armour is heaviest. You can just use it til trog gives you something real dank.

>>153106751
Is this a good feel or a bad feel? I can't tell if the image is referring to the player, or Lom Lobon.

>>153126721
Lom, he's hilariously useless in a killhole.

If you were a dev, how would you buff UC to make it okay without Transmutations?

>>153127913
remove it

>>153123606
There aren't any tiles for it yet. the gateway is just a ?, even.

In order to have salt walls someone has to actually contribute a "salt wall" tile to this open source videogame

>>153124690
>>153126631
venom is very good in the early game, but by the time rPois matters for anything other than adders a longsword will be pretty out-of-date

>>153127913
add a race that has some sort of intrinsic mutation that increases their UC damage

>>153117836
Hey, is there one of those crying angry faces for yred yet

>>153126721
It's a great feel.
>Lom on his level
Potentially the most dangerous single enemy in the entire game aside from the feared D1 gnoll with branded spear+nets(can that even happen anymore?)
>Lom in a killhole
A bunch of HP that will do 20-30% of your HP every so often and be useless on every other turn while you regen.

>>153128993
They should give Lom Dig.

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>>153127913

UC is perfectly fine without it.

>>153129062
I think you mean shatter.

Shame monsters are too retarded to use the shatter and tornado combo properly.

>>153127913
UC is fine though. If anything, you can just nerf holy to make it look better.

>>153129106
>121 HP in cock 7
Fucking panic.

>>153129874
you literally (figuratively) don't even need HP if you play carefully

>>153129874

HP doesn't matter

>>153129970
>>153130097
I'm just imaging how many times you had to disengage and heal up vs. old aunty. He can easily 2hko/3hko that VS, and you really have to pick what you're going to blow your exhaustion on. It just sounds super stressful. I've done low HP shenanigans, but never in extended.

>>153130278

>how many times you had to disengage

Zero. Because I'm a plant and plants don't walk away

>>153130371
I guess diesel is as diesel does.

>>153130278
Anon, VS are probably one of the best natural races for ridiculous postend shenanigans.
>they get huge regen naturally
>they have a deceptively large HP pool because of guardian spirit and mana drain (if you do the math they have about as much HP as a +0 race, just way better recovery)
>they have an AM bite and can use unarmed or holy wrath along with AM for ridiculous shenanigans (AM is utterly amazing against high power demons)

>>153131721

>catch a single torment+damnation
>consider suicide

Surely not as good as you think it is

>Tfw you accidently max out a skill because you were tabbing so hard, so now you can't get an actually fun title for your character
I wanted to be a minotaur miracle worker. Stupid diesel apts.

>>153132140
If you have 160 HP and 40 mana, you don't actually have 160 HP with spirit shield. Both Torment and Damnation do damage and thus it gets divided.
Then you hit someone once or twice and you get all that mana back.

Play the race before you talk shit about it, anon.

>>153132273

No one would actually think about hitting anything immediately if you catch both of those spells at once. It doesn't matter if it gets divided, your hp is in the shitters and staying in combat is not advisable

It's not as good as you think it is

>>153132273
your mana is a quarter of your HP so it takes approximately 25% of the damage you would have

this means when you get tormented for 56 you lose almost half your mana

>>153132740
Well then we are in the exact same place with any race that isn't rNinf, aren't we?

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So I'm standing over a shop that has 4 acquirement scrolls. What would you guys acquire, given my current gear and inventory? Not shown is a full set of evokers, plus bobs, mirrors and spiders.

>>153133071
Wand until HW I guess.
Then books? Staff?

>>153133071
>nothing quivered
acquire ammo

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how am get treasure?

>>153133242
I went for the safe option, got 3 hastes and a dig. Acquirement a shit. Funnily enough, I can't really utilize the CPA or majin-bo since my spells don't really need all that much spellpower. The only thing that benefits is spectral weapon and regeneration.

>>153133367
Never ever.

>>153133584
walk through the mutafog and become xom's plaything

>>153133625
>acquiring wands when you already have 2/3 of the major ones

I don't get it

>>153133584

Simple. Cast Shatter

>>153133626
okay

+1 {regen} i am own fault

>>153133682
The only one I don't have ID'd is HW. The chances of getting it were really good.

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>>>>>>>D:1
>inb4 >I

Why do people not like deep dwarves again?

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A liches and zot traps dumping you into Abyss:5 has got to be one of my least favorite changes, even if it makes sense. I fucking HATE Abyss:5. Almost as much as Tartarus. Atleast I have some stealth and regen castable. God damn it.

>>153135151

Deep Dwarves are more tedious than Tomb

>>153135151
DD are great, if perhaps a bit too strong.
I like them since they are challenging to play for new players, but in an experienced players hands they are very powerful. This dynamic appeals to me.

>>153135151
Having to constantly worry about your health is really stressful.

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>>153135151
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