/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

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Vomitpostan!

>>153009343
That's what I mean, The game understands a realistic skeleton, but how do you make the game understand that, the shoulder is at the top of the upper body, instead of being right next to the nipples?

>>153008925
You sure have alot of questions. Okay, let's get more technical.

>Does the game acknowledges where do limbs connect with the torso?

Yes. This information is defined in body_default.txt and body_rcp.txt. This information is used in-game for things like joint-locking and manipulating during wrestling and also attack damage affecting adjacent body parts to the one that is hit.

>In a big enough body part, does the place where you place a heart inside it affect the chances of it being pierced?

No. You can define if a body part is connected to another part externally and where it is connected by using joints, but the location of an internal body part within another body part cannot currently be defined as such. Basically what the game does right now is look at the overall size of the containing body part, and then the size of the contained body part, and roll a weighted dice to see if the contained body part is hit. Practically: if you have a torso of relsize 90, and a heart of relsize 10, a spear stab (assuming it penetrates, of course) to the torso will have roughly a 10/(90+10) or 10% chance to strike the heart.

Was last thread but yeah, never seen this before:
>>152921000
>>153008000

>>153009705
You can have things be front/rear/top and such I think?

>>153009802
BP_RELATION accepts: AROUND, SURROUNDED_BY, ABOVE, BELOW, IN_FRONT, BEHIND, CLEANS, and CLEANED_BY

BP_POSITION accepts: FRONT, BACK, LEFT, RIGHT, TOP and BOTTOM

>>153009705
oh ok. Yeah, this has been interesting as fuck, but the wiki doesnt answer my questions

Can you have external organs?
Can you make a 'hollow' creature, connecting various torsos in a circular way?
Does the game understand that when you stab someone so hard the sword comes out from the back, the muscle tearing is bigger than when you simply stab someone?

>>153009802
You're thinking too realistically about it. Think of it more in terms of DnD or other tabletop game, where combat is more of an abstraction. When a creature is attacked, you roll a dice to determine first IF it is hit. If so, then you roll another dice based on a chart to see WHERE it is hit and what effect it has.

The dwarf does not exist in-game as an actual entity. What it really is a nested series of dice rolls. In the context of the game, things like exactly WHERE the upper arm connects to the torso are meaningless. What the game does is roll a random number to see what body part is hit, based on the relsize of the body part divided by the relsize of the entire body, or containing body parts for internal parts.

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>>153010385
>can you have external organs?

You mean like pic related? Yes. To make say, an external heart, you just go into body_rcp.txt, copy the heart entry and name it something like [BODY:RCP_HEART_EXTERNAL], and remove the [INTERNAL] tag.

>Can you make a 'hollow' creature, connecting various torsos in a circular way?

I don't believe you can. As I understand it, body parts must be defined as a branching tree. Each part can have parts branching off it, but the branches cannot be rejoined together at any point but the part they are coming off of. So you could make a U shaped creature, but you could never close the gap to fully make an O.

>Does the game understand that when you stab someone so hard the sword comes out from the back, the muscle tearing is bigger than when you simply stab someone?

I'm not sure on this one.

>>153009905
As soon as I open a world in LV, the pie charts are there.

>>153011248
Oh yeah, almost forgot, because the external heart is no longer internal, you can use the [RIGHT] tag to define it as being on the right side of the upper body.

>>153009685
Yuck!

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>>153010385
>Can you make a 'hollow' creature, connecting various torsos in a circular way?

After thinking about this further, do you mean a 'hollow' like this? As in a creature with a missing portion of its torso that attacks may pass through without harming it?

If so, that's easy. You define a new body part that's embedded in the torso. Call it a Hole, then you make a creature that uses the Hole. You select the hole in the creature raw and define it as being made of a gas. Voila, now whenever an attack is rolled that hits the hole, it will pass through harmlessly.

I've been visited by an undead sieging army. This was pretty early, so I've just closed up my bridges and plan to deal with them once I have a better military... or something. What's been funny though, is that visitors keen on checking out my swanky tavern have been popping in, seeing all the undead warriors shambling about, and subsequently either killing a couple and dying if they're soldiers, or just getting chased around for a season until they tired and get killed if they're bards.

>>153010385
It does model the damage on additional tissue layers when attacks aren't stopped by the preceding ones, and as of the joint damage it handles some of that sort of connective tissue damage.

From looking at the detail plans I don't see why you couldn't add to the ribcage positions something like:

[BP_RELATION:BY_CATEGORY:HEART:IN_FRONT:BY_CATEGORY:SPINE:5]
[BP_RELATION:BY_CATEGORY:LUNGS:AROUND:BY_CATEGORY:HEART:15]
[BP_RELATION:BY_CATEGORY:HEART:ABOVE:BY_CATEGORY:HLIVER:5]
With some experimentation to figure out if you could have it so stabbing someone from above and damaging their heart could then damage the liver, or stabbing through a lung from the side into the heart or spine could be done?

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>fresh new embark
>suddenly someone falls unconscious
>dies few seconds later
What did he mean by this?

>>153014239
1 of 2 things:

1. log fell on his head and he died (wear a fucking copper helmet at least)
2. God is punishing you for using MASTERSHIT

>>153014239
He was hit in the head by a falling piece of wood?

>>153014494
Why do people hate masterwork so much around here?

>>153014546
>>153014494
His body is underground as you can see on the screenshot. He couldn't get hit by a falling tree there. I'm not using any mastershit either.

>>153014694
nah lad let me do it for you

>le mastershit
>why don't people like it?
>do you see mastershit in the OP? this is about dwarf fortress
>stop liking what I don't like!
>back to the alps
>stop being a child!

there, no need to advertise it anymore

>>153014694
Because Meph is a Svede who takes well over a thousand dollars in donation money a month that could either go to the people who actually made his mods, or to, yanno, Toady, which he uses to finance his vacations around the world. And he smirkingly links to his vacation blog on his forum handle.

Here's a modding question:

Is it possible to create a custom slab or tome or whatever that teaches a custom smelting reaction, and then to have that slab or tome drop as an item off a slain megabeast, the way bronze colossi drop statues?

>>153015072
Definitely not, the only kind of stuff like that that can convey a change is shit like a vapor that splatters someone and gives them a syndrome. It can't teach new reaction etc.

Masterwork 34.x has a race of frost giants who drop bars of bifrost for cool gear tho, and a race of automata who drop brass mechanisms.

>>153015072
Can't add the reactions like that, and I don't know if you can control the text on an item that is dropped like that, but you could have the itemcorpse be a slab or whatnot.

>>153015215
>>153015297
Ah, thanks.

Dammit, there goes my dream to replicate something like Thulsa Doom attacking villages in order to solve the Riddle of Steel.

>>153014997
Gonna need a story time on this.

>grizzly bear man got bodied by bogeyman who he never even landed a fucking hit on

HOW

>>153019317
Bogeymen are the strongest enemies in the game.
They're exactly the same as angels, only smaller and guaranteed to not be made of some shitty material like water. You also have to fight them on their terms out in the open, so you can't do shit like hide behind doors or kite them around pillars to cheapshot them like you can with angels, and bogeyman appear in larger numbers than angels.
That means the strongest angel is a bit stronger than the strongest bogeyman, but your average bogeyman is much stronger than your average angel. A pack of bogeymen is far stronger than anything else you could ever encounter barring some kind of webspitting archangel.

How am I supposed to play adventure mode? I spawned as an elf and I'm just wandering around aimlessly.

>>153019687
By having an aim, although that's not necessary. There's lots to do and at the same time little reason to do it, just like fort mode. The trick is to RP.

Is there any way to ensure that there won't be a lot of murky pools on the embark? Fucking hate those useless pieces of shit.

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>>153019687
Wander around and do shit.
You could go to your nearest human city, claim the site for yourself and your group and then kill the local lord.
You could go on a quest to exterminate every night troll, necromancer and vampire in the world.
You could go plunder vaults and load yourself up with divine metal, then retire at a fort so you can play with divine metal in fortress mode.
You could go try and exterminate every living thing in a dark fortress.
You could wander around telling stories and singing and dancing and building up a massive troupe of entertainers, then use said troupe of entertainers to assault a dark fortress, kill the demon in charge and then lay claim to the fortress for yourself and The Fabulous Messiahs.
You could also have your upper spine chipped by a lucky bogeymen and be a useless cripple for the remaining sixteen seconds of your life.

>>153019895
>>153020201
No no, I love this kind of stuff
The problem is I literally can't find anything, I wandered around in the wilderness for 5 hours

>>153020389
Legendsviewer is pretty much mandatory if you want to do anything interesting in adv mde

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>find pleb in a lair
>his only possession is a book
>going to use him as my new training buddy since I accidentally killed my last one
>start strangling so he doesn't put up a fight as I cripple him
>ends up dying immediately instead of going unconscious
>read his book
>he's just been shitposting about a nearby town while hiding in his lair
wew

>>153019673
If you screw up and don't have a shield, dragonfire makes statues explode into clouds of boiling magma now, hell if you happened to be near something hit by dragonfire you could block the fire and get burned by the shit lighting off around you.

Webspitting inorganic titans, flying dragonfire breathing inorganic titans (yeesh, nothx), and similar fbs are awful.

Beyond a certain skill level, and especially once you do something like become a vampire or necromancer bogeymen start to become an annoyance.

>>153020196
Embark in a scorching desert.

Requesting new world seeds. Anyone have a decent world they'd like to share? Embarks?

>>153014494
1. Military uniforms conflict with civilian labor tools. Woodcutters take off any assigned equipment before they pick up the axe to do their civilian labor.

2. That's just phoebus.

>>153019673
A creature's strength is relative to their size, and the largest bogey is 1/3rd the size of an average dwarf. They're much, much weaker than angels that aren't composed of something soft.

>>153022232
>They're much, much weaker than angels that aren't composed of something soft.
Except for the part where their strength stat is pumped so high that they can punch through steel with their bare fists. Bogeymen are literally just angels+1. Everything dangerous about angels, bogeymen do better.

Also, angels can be and usually are the same size as bogeymen anyway. The humanoid ones at least. Beast angels are wimplords regardless of their size, and archangels are usually huge.

>>153020389
T to bring up the fast travel screen and Q to bring up the quest log both give you maps with lower resolutions that will show broader areas to find points of interest. The compass in the upper left corner of the screen will also lead you to nearby locations, which seems to be locations within ~1 day's travel.

>>153021182
>Beyond a certain skill level, and especially once you do something like become a vampire or necromancer bogeymen start to become an annoyance.
But by that point you're strong enough that nothing else in the game can so much as touch you. Excluding dragons, webspitters and the minmaxiest RNGbeasts, bogeymen are the only threat serious enough to even be considered an annoyance. A lucky bogeyman can kill you in a single hit at any point in the game.
Nothing else can remain a relevant threat at that point, even with luck on their side.
When was the last time your armored, legendary vampire adventurer was actually injured by say a night troll? Or even an angel?
Now when was the last time your armored, legendary vampire adventurer was crippled by a bogeyman getting a lucky neck shot?

>>153019687
>elf

Fucking kill yourself you subhuman scum

Is there anything worse than an elf?

>>153024614
2 elves

>>153024614
>>153024651
3 elves

>>153024614
elf civ

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>>153024614
There is one thing actually

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>>153025082
>kobolds
>speaking legibly

>>153025082
>>153025367
>hating on kobolds
kobolds are cute! CUTE!

Best way to purge elf scum?

>>153025450
gronk

>>153025630
one by one

>>153025630
limb from limb

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One of these days I should play a kobold adventurer and go on a slaughtering spree to try and wipe out all the civilized races.

>>153027514
why not right now

>>153027565
That is an excellent question and it seems to have no answer. My current adventurer was boring anyway.

>>153021229
Or a frozen one.

>>153021229
>>153028221
but he'll still have murky pools, they just won't be usable

>>153023071
>>153019673
You're DRAMATICALLY overselling bogeymen. The only way they can "destroy you at any point in teh game" is that some have gore attacks. Night trolls, and ordinary trolls, also have that.

They're a threat to:
0. People without companions
1. Newbie adventurers
2. People who sleep outside
3. ????

There is nothing magical or special about bogeymen as far as other creatures are concerned, and I have only died to them due to stupidity or incautiousness. I have had plenty of established characters brutally killed by night trolls (one bite and it can definitely be over for you with no way for even superhuman strength x legendary wrestling to pry free) but I have yet to see an awake, non stunned, trained adventurer die of them.

To be fair, angels seem faggy as fuck in 43.03, no extremity armor whatsoever, often spawn without axes, so I'm wondering if .04 or .05 had an important mod for them.

The only possible explanation for why people think bogeymen are a credible threat overall rather than just in specific situations, I think, is .34.xx bone chipping pain.

>>153021969
What? I'm pretty sure woodcutters can still have uniforms, it just can't involve an axe.

>>153022589
A single wrong move with an angel can result in them skewering a divine metal pike through your hand, permanently ruining it, while I have not seen bogeymen do anything of the sort unless you count .34.xx.

I don't really pay attention to what permanently fucks you up in .34 since I've had size 1100000 race characters have motor nerve severings due to a fucking ordinary crab.

>>153028772
Nope, miners and woodcutters will strip naked when they switch from military or civilian tasks, even if you don't have any uniform set for them at all. It's stupid as fuck.

>>153017374
Meph is known for pocketing donation money (on average, thousands every month) and take frequent vacations across the world. He claims a lot of work went unfinished, not because he went on vacation, but because a middle eastern guy confiscated his thumb drive. So not only is he rich at the expense of DF fans (and at the expense of Toady, since the donation money should be his), but he's a racist as well who blames literal Islamic terrorism on why he did nothing as far as updates for a whole month.

So in case you're wondering why some people are pissy about Mastershit, now you know why.

is there a way to change genders pre-embark
i got 7 females

>>153029297
cancel and start over

>>153029330
is it a huge detriment to wait for first migration wave?

>>153028772
http://bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=1451

>>153029391

>is it a huge detriment to wait for first migration wave?

I don't understand the question. Are you asking whether their sexes matter, other than that if they get married and join the military they may retardedly bring their babies? No.

>>153029482
I was asking that, since I had 7 females, would it actually be an issue to wait for the first migration wave to get a male.

>>153029554

No. It would matter in no way whatsoever.

>>153029391
Genders are almost entirely meaningless. The only difference between them is that males can be the victims of gelding blows and women can produce leeches that serve as meatshields on rare occasions.

>>153029554
realistically, your fort would hardly play out differently than normal if it was populated entirely by females

>>153028292
Not if they're frozen?

So if ya gotta do two separate embarks at a least with a dead civ, and thus have 14 DORFS to detail the skills for, what skills would you go for, and for which embark?

1. Assume the first embark will join the second bark... after awhile.
2. Assume the first embark won't have much time to fuck around with their actual skills/jobs, being too busy moving shit around etc.

How do I invert the signal sent from a pressure plate to a bridge?

What's the best race for an adventurer who's going to be wandering around underground a lot? I would assume it would be dwarf would be best and human would be pretty bad due to lack of eyesight without sunlight, but I'd like to know if there's anything else I should take into account.

>>153035706
><

>>153038028
Goblins don't eat or drink and have good nightsight.

>>153038028
Dorf. By FAR

>>153038148
You forgot their great ability to pick up odors. Seriously, the only times I've been able to pick up anything other than "death"(in an evil biome), I've been playing as a gobbo.

>can join lock shit to break it
>can't go MGS and snap someone's neck

>>153039285
Probably because that's just too "nuffin personel" tier.

>>153039285
add joint tag to throat

>>153020201
What the fuck can give you that message in the game, man?

Is there any way to tell how deep the aquifer is from the site selection screen? Or by any other method than embarking and digging or hacks, mods, etc?

>>153040330
In pre-0.40, you'd run into random bandit encounters when fast travelling. They'd be announced with a popup window.

is it possible to build downwards?

building it on a ledge facing up
and then letting it crash down works... but

is there maybe a workaround or is it only possible to build from the bottom up?

>>153041714
Staircases can be built with no support except from above if I'm not mistaken.

>>153041714
An advantage of adventurer mode, I suppose, my construction is all abstracted to the travel screen so it just has to have proper support.

I could lay out something like this in side view:

_
..[]_
......[]_
..........[]

Sometimes I need to add additional "construction braces" on the sides, but you can build an otherwise unsupported zigzag out from a wall as far as you want.

+
++
..++
....++
......+
....++
....+
....++
......++
........++

Would build just fine, but building a single row of floors that far would stop after a couple of tiles at most.

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I think this is the first time I've seen a dwarf whose values are exactly the same as the civ's values.

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>>153037594
Imagine this with over the top anime visuals
shonen fortress

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>>153042681
>tfw I just shouted all my values at the peasant were-wombat until I broke his minds like I broke his body
After he accepted my values, I proceeded to tell him all the stories I knew about him. He was one of the first humans and was a bard. The very first thing he did was write an angry book about his hometown hamlet. He went on to write a gorillion books. Eventually he went mad craving immortality, and decided desecrating a temple was the best way to do that. After he was cursed to be a were-wombat and kicked out of all civilization, he spent many years eating livestock and travelers that wandered near his lair.

I recited his entire history, a tale as old as the world, before purging the abomination from the world.

>>153043412
Oh, and he kept his very first book with him. It was his only reminder of the life he used to live.

>>153043412
>>153043538
nice story

>trying to build a tower to facilitate an execution drop where the victim hits terminal velocity before exploding on a solid gold floor
>giant keas constantly interrupting

if only there were a way to have bowdwarfs constantly hunting for the giant green faggots

>>153036790
>1 carpenter
>1 mason
>1 grower
>1 brewer+cook
>2 miners
>1 armorsmith+weaponsmith
>1 furnace operator, wood burner, lye maker, soaper, any other odd jobs where skill only increases production speed
>1 doctor
>1 weaver (use a giant cave spider as cloth source to cut out the plant processor)
>1 clothier
>1 mechanic
>1 manager
>not sure what to do with the last guy. strand extractor? engraver? jeweler? another odd jobs guy?
>Would eventually include the carpenter, mason, miners, mechanic, smith, weaver, clothier, furnace operator and 14th dwarf in the military for a 10 man squad

On the first embark I would take the smith, furnace operator, doctor, weaver, clothier, mechanic and extra dwarf, have them cut down some trees and build a wooden wall and then sustain themselves with plant gathering for a bit. Fruit trees are OP.

On the second embark I'll have the miners, the mason, the carpenter and the farmer, so I'll be able to establish a proper underground fortress and get the ball rolling for a longterm plan.
Any extra migrants will be used to expand and improve my cloth industry and to establish a library. With 8 dwarves I can add dyes to my cloth and start producing quires at a steady pace. With 2 more I can have scribes to keep up with my mechanic and doctor, who will become scholars.
Everyone else will just be haulers and military dwarves.

>>153044980
>Not adding the [AQUATIC] tag to keas so the little bastards air drown immediately on spawn

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>>153021613
I have got a really really nice one: http://pastebin.com/smHXMBCm

I am a beginner so I embarked on the lower continent in a warm area with literally everything but aquifiers. 2 years in, 97 people (one died (my broker with appraisal) because I did not know what it means when dwarves wait in their workshop while being posessed, but after his death I let them carve pictures of him into the main bedroom walls, so he wont be forgotten) and I have yet to wait to find anything threatening, I guess goblins are just too far away, maybe I will start some shit with the treehumpers though

>>153045379
What about caverns?

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>>153045696
Just digging for them after I got a military squad and sealed it off with a drawbridge to have not too much fun. Digged straight down to level 20, nothing yet, pretty strange

Is it possible to retire in a site that you create as an adventurer, and if so, how? I'm still getting give in to starvation instead of retire or rest for a while.

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Is there a kill more metal than chopping a fucker's upper body into an unrecognizeable mess of twisted tissues?

>>153046338
Name it > designate a main hall zone > claim it and retire.

>>153044980
>I RECENTLY LASHED A KEA IN HALF

300k created value guy here, my first forgotten beast was a quadruped with mandibles made of ash, no special attacks
disappointing

I like to chop the swordarms off of people with my axe when they fuck with me and just leave them there.

For some reason my dwarves won't remove the giant rat and elkbird corpses around my fortress
Any idea why that would be?

>>153048849
You got a corpse stockpile? You sure they're unforbidden?

>>153046001
>>153045696
Just found a nice cavern at level 30 that goes down to 41. I have no idea which of the layers it is but it looks quite maze-like, a dead bat and some silk webs are there, but I cannot find any monsters. Well, I hoped I could find some magma for a forge, damn. Still sealed it off with the drawbridge though. Is there a way to see how many cavern monsters are in the world? I have seen the generation file and it says something like 14 cave trolls, which is quite few in such a huge world

>>153049371
If even roll I will enter the cavern with my troops
If even doubles I will enter the fort with a horde of civilians
If uneven doubles I will enter it with a lone animal caretaker
If trips he will bring his duck with him

>>153048702
I got 300k in like 1 year after robbing the caravan.
That may be a bug but it is seriously not that hard

>>153045936
Well that was pretty fucking cute

>>153049634
not trying to brag, it's just that I complained about the lack of Fun in my fort here yesterday, just wanted to identify myself

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By far the worst thing about starting out as a dwarven adventurer is the fact that you have to find your way out of the maze before you can do anything interesting.

Captcha wants me to identify pancakes. I'm hungry.

>>153049793
Ah, ok. Tbh, how can you see how much something is worth in trade? The number besides it just seems to be the weight and not the value. I just traded two iron anvils for a cat and a goose, how much did I fuck up?

>>153050034
You need a broker with the appraisal skill to see how much things are worth.

>>153050034
you must appoint a broker and have him do the trading

Oh fug. Some weregopher with a name just came here. "Now you will know why you fear the night". What the fuck is happening? Is this a FB or just some shitty meme monster?

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>>153049914
Would it kill Toady to have us start out with knowledge of the layout of the fortress which is supposedly the home we've been living in?

>>153050589
Holy shit, now my fishers are fighting with that fag instead of running away. What the fuck

>>153050589
It's a werebeast.

It's a monster man thing.

Eventually if you don't kill it it'll turn to normal and flee.

There's nothing to worry about if it bites anybody.

>>153050776
>>153051381
>tfw you lost two stupid fishers to some fag
>tfw one of axedwarves hips is torn apart and he cannot stand anymore
>tfw

>>153051409
>look at the thoughts of the person who cannot stand anymore
>"I feel so good!"

>>153051381
>There's nothing to worry about if it bites anybody.

now that's some fun inducing text.

>>153051538
Well yeah I mean of course that isn't true, werebeasts have pretty strong jaws. Nothing a trip to the hospital can't fix tho.

>>153051593
Nothing a trip to the hospital can't fix?
It just killed two of my fucking men

Also:
>some guy is on his way to recover the wounded soldier
>I see some guy approaching
>"Store item in bin"
>mfw he literally walks besides the wounded, robs one corpse of his clothes and leaves again

>>153051701
Well the ones who survive I mean. Just keep the wounded in the hospital till they recover. If you don't have a hospital just have them on break or something. Its what I do, anyway. Should take about a month, give or take.

>>153051798
Nah, I thought about that. I have a fully stacked hospital with 4 doctors and 10 beds.
>But no soap
>inb4 infection

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>>153051910
Don't worry, werebeast bites don't get infected

>>153050632
There is absolutely no way out of this little pocket of air in the earth which is supposedly a fortress. I do not know what to do.

>>153052125
Have you tried taking the stairs?

Also, navigating fortresses gets easier when you start to learn how they're generated.

>>153051910
>mfw after like 2 minutes of lying unconsious in bed he gets up again, gets in his armour and returns to the training grounds
>mfw this dwarf also was the one who actually finished the werehuman
>mfw this guy is the first hero of this fortress

>>153052565
Oh that's pretty cool. Make sure to train him up a lot so he lives up to his reputation.

>>153052565
>werehuman

uh

>>153052784
This nigga

>>153052565
>after like 2 minutes of lying unconsious in bed he gets up again, gets in his armour and returns to the training grounds
after a torn hip?
that guy is pretty beastly

>>153052802
I think he meant a human who turned into a werebeast as opposed to like, a dorf or something.

>>153052802
clearly a fearsome monster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU513suJZzY

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>>153050034
Made me chuckle and make a meme.

>>153050034
>I sell 1000 acres of land for shiny bead

>>153052202
Yes, I have taken the stairs, all of them, and explored each level that I can get to in their entireties, so far as I am able, unless I'm missing something. I found no way out and nothing of interest except the tavern keeper in one of the little bedrooms. When he told me to talk to somebody else about where a beast was I asked him how to find the other person and he said he didn't know where to look. Are we stuck in there forever?

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Serf the derfs

>>153059176
I didn't know that was possible

>>153059521
You didn't think adventurers were immortal, did you?

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landfall, finally

now send your snatchers, your trolls, your writers and poets. I'll guide them all to elven homes

>>153059852
does this really work? will goblins even use that bridge?

>>153051701
>mfw he literally walks besides the wounded, robs one corpse of his clothes and leaves again

DF is a tough world buddy

>>153053073
>tfw still no skeleton men and giant skeletons

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>Set pop cap to 7 and child cap to 200
>Go settle down on a junction between two forests and a mountain
>Dig a little hobbit hole above the surface and settle in for a couple years so I can have a couple productive trades instead of just blowing the opportunities digging to and setting up above magma or pistoning it up
>Buy arse loads of gems with some crafts, furniture, and orchard products gathered and cooked into roasts.
>Encrust and resell to buy arse loads of gems ores, metal, meltables, and wooden goods
>Slowly begin customizing their bedrooms with liked materials and furniture because with so few dorfs it's actually feasible.
>Goes on for like 15,20 years
>Can't figure out why nobody's had a kid yet
>Bee farm, while productive and sustaining the entire fort by itself, is beginning to choke itself out because Toadman's cooking code is pants on head retarded with liquids generally being depreciated at being chosen
>Oh, tavern moved socializing completely out of the meeting hall/dining hall zones.
>Designate one
>One tight year I don't have a lot cause I've had to cut labor time due to only having 7 derfs to do everything the dorf merchants try to jew me and throw a hissy fit.
>They don't actually leave properly and exist invisibly 2 tiles from the map edge and I only know that cause their shit shows up as forbidden on my stocks list
>Some 10 years later one of the pack animals dies of old age or something, dropping a fat stack of merchant goods out of thin air.
>Never got a caravan since
>Some 40 years into the fort the only two who's paired up is my honorary noble and the mechanic who pop out a kid every other year now
>Pop: 10
I dearly hope incest will save us before moods start and we all die in a tantrum spiral from a dead relative.

>embark in evil reanimating glacier
>immediately set up a wall around wagon
>retard cat doesn't want to come inside
>undead yeti kills it in one hit
Rip 2cat

So /dfg/
What are the bigger implications the law system will bring to the game?
Land/property owning/managing? Crime and punishment? Taxes and taxes-related murders?

>>153059852
How long did that take, in dwarf time?

>>153059972
They will, although actually building the bridge in-game was unnecessary. Just having your embark area connect two landmasses will make abstract armies able to cross the water.

>>153060620
I applaud your endeavor.

Has anyone ever tried to roleplay old greeks while playing dorfmod? any stories

>>153061681
That's gonna be inmensely easier and satisfactory to make after the myth update

>>153059972
well, they'll use it to attack me, but I imagine they'd have appeared from thin air on the elven side if I hadn't built it
human and dwarven caravans have been generating on that side already

>>153061067
2.5 years with pop capped at 30, although I spent some of that time working on my aboveground fort (you can see the ramps up to it in the middle of the bridge)

>>153061940
Tfw, hope its coming out soon. any idea when?

>>153062129
No prob senpai, its coming much sooner than everybody thought!
About late 2017

Can you remove staircase? Fill it up or something?

>>153062129
Hopefully by the end of 2017. By the end of this year, we hopefully get the artifact release.

>>153062587
Build a wall/floor.

Finally third caverns.
I hope I will find some magma soon,

>>153062587
d-z if it's a dug upward staircase

>>153063396
if it's a downward staircase

>>153062739
>>153062256
:(

>>153063396
>>153063521
To be more precise.

I dug stars leading down, but I had a room already dug below it. So I can't build a up/down staircase on that level it seems. So the down stars seem unusable.

Or am I missing something?

>>153063713
You can though. You construct it instead of dig designation

>>153063608
Why so sad? We confirmed that there was a major release coming out in just a few months. By Toady standard, this schedule is pretty reassuring.

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>>153057081
I assume you can't fast travel and move upwards right?

Nice, there was one of those in the bay12 adventure mode game I fucked around in a bit, I was a peregrine falcon crossbowwoman vampire at that point so I was zooming around at 6.1 speed all day erry day, and then I found a minecart on the bridge.

>>153063814
Neat. I did it. Thanks.

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I'm on 40.24, what would happen if I just upgrade to 43.xx? Can I put the book reactions in somehow without regenning my world? I want to update the game, but keep playing my old save.

>>153064309
Read up on if there was a save break.
Read up on modding to know what needs a new world or not

make it more user-friendly god dam'n

>>153069257
the only really non-user friendly part is the interface, and even that's not too bad once you get used to it

>>153069718
some mouse controls would be nice, but also a pain for everyone already playing at this point

>>153052071
I dont think he's being honest with himself.

>>153070358
>some mouse controls would be nice
Wipe this meme from the face of the Earth.

It's nice to have a game where everything can be accessed through the keyboard. Adding mouse control would soon make the mouse completely necessary to play the game. Fuck that.

>>153070745
it's no longer 1990 anon
everyone has a mouse
they're useful

How does /dfg/ organize their peasantry? All of them with all peasant labors on, completely specialized, or a mixture of both types?

>>153069257
It's already very user friendl.y Just because your keybindings from Dankstrike: TokeItforce don't carry over doesn't mean you still had to learn controls at some point.

>>153070358
>>153070820
Mouse controls are slow and terrible. Stop being a fucking baby, grind it out and appreciate it.

>>153071561
Specialists, haulers, miners, soldiers

what should I focus on as a new player?

I watched a fair amount of Cpt Ducks tutorial for 2015, and want to get playing, but this shits just overwhelming.

>>153071828
i mean, given that i'm here i'm clearly already playing
and it's fine
but like
>Mouse controls are slow and terrible.
this is just wrong
and you know it

>>153071915
It takes longer when you can just hit the keys for it and be done in a fraction of the time.

>>153070820
>tfw you aren't included in everyone

>>153072105
so, mouse controls for designating big ass rectangles wouldn't be faster?

sure thing m8

>>153071854
Focus on an industry at a time starting with food and bucket irrigation after you learn basic digging and other designations.

>>153072203
Build a magma forge, a cage trap, then toggle your pickup minerals standing order.

Sure thing m8. Mouse controls are a cancer born from the shit generation

>>153073012
anon the guys who made mouse controls are in their 70s now
or dead
don't blame this on millennials, they only adopted it

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>>153072203
>he doesn't know about shift+direction

>>153070820
>"it's current year" meme

>>153064309
You can update without issue. You will be able to create tavern/temple/library zones and have the manager and workshop order improvements. Armor and weapon damage will happen.
You won't have any of the proc-genned art forms, which means no songs/dancing/poetry, no books except those written by necromancers will exist in your world, and you will probably not receive visitors. You won't be able to add reactions to create books/paper/parchment, though you may be able to replace existing reactions to do so. There are probably other new features you won't have, but I can't think of anything off the top of my head.

>>153073150
Shit was fine until them.

>>153071828
I just switched over to entirely specialized peasantry, and so far it seems a lot better. I had been told long ago to keep them generalized, but holy shit this seems much more efficient.

>>153073564
seems like you have some delusional issues man

>>153073585
Pretty much if skill matters I specialize them then pair up low work loads with low work loads so I have the minimum amount of specialists while still getting things done.

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>Magma crab has given birth to triplets
Christ, it's the sea monster repopulation project all over again.

>>153072221
How do I get clean water and store it?

What are the items I need to store food/materials/drinks?

Do animals have fertility levels, or anything at all that affects births aside from gender? I've had these two dogs in a pasture together for years, and while previous pairs have made puppies very regularly, these ones just refuse to fuck.

>>153074568
Cook it with &, a fire, a container, and a soda can you drank out of. You can salvage containers from the towns, sew them out of leather clothing, melt plastic chunks into jugs, treat stomachs to hold liquids

Store perishable (blue highlight) food and drinks in fridges, dump the rest anywhere. dump materials anywhere. You can craft using anything in the 8 nearby visible tiles.

>>153074973
There was a little bit of a rework, you'll want to dig on the forums.

>>153074568
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Well_guide

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Stockpile#Food

>>153075650
Wrong general.
>>>/rlg/

>>153075780
Thanks, just what I needed.

But how about making it so dwarfs fight? I think I got everything I need to get started but know nothing about defending with dwarfs outside of making like motes and shit which I want to avoid at first.

>>153073161
Apparently not.

I'm bummed out, anons, just found our porch spider fell at some point this morning and busted her abdomen open. I was able to get her before the ants did, at least. Just finished getting her cleaned up and in an impromptu display where she is all big and dramatic insted of curled up and dead looking, but still a super bummer, didn't even get to leave eggs behind for next year.

>>153076239
The answer is, unsurprisingly, very similar.

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Military

There are a lot of subarticles to read regarding it. It's one of the most fiddly systems in DF. You'll fuck up your first military or three, but rest assured that the system works as intended and works well once you learn it. Any anons who tell you otherwise are shitters whose opinions can be disregarded. Be aware of the bug reported in >>153029480. Also be aware that a properly trained and equipped military will trivialize 90+% of the threats in the game, so take it slow if you want to experience the "losing is fun" meme.

>>153076239
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Military_quickstart
HUGE WALL OF TEXT BLAH BLAH BLAH

if you want your military optimized at all, you have to learn all this shit. If you don't care and just want a couple guys who can slap wild animals around, you could do worse than
>make sure you have a few metal weapons lying around - buy them from a caravan or embark with them if you don't want to deal with a metal industry yet, and getting your carpenter to build a few wooden shields early on is easy
>[n] --> assign someone as militia commander
>[m] --> [n], scroll to "metal armor," press [m]
>[p] --> [c]reate squad (from militia commander), select "metal armor"
>scroll over to SQUAD POSITIONS, scroll down to 2, and start assigning whoever you want to the squad
>[esc] when you're done
>build an armor stand or weapon rack wherever you want them to train, [q] on it, [r]-->resize (if you want)-->[enter], then [t] assuming you only have one squad (otherwise, scroll to the one you want)
>[s]-->[a]-->[t] so it says Sched - Active/training
>having enough waterskins/vials/flasks and backpacks lying around is a good idea, but not crucial early on

to kill something something with your squad,
[s]-->[a]-->[k] and then either
>scroll to the location of the target and press [enter]
>choose [l] or [r] and choose multiple targets

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I am going to lose this fort to the stupidest fucking bullshit I have ever seen.
>Start fort
>get mostly set up
>still have wagon be meeting zone
>giant tick gets scared and runs up nearby tree
>dorfs also scared of tick, they go catatonic or something and refuse to move
>stand frozen literally adjacent to the entrance to the fort
>start starving to death
What the fuck?

The tick is in one of the trees at the bottom of this image, along with a terrified fishery worker. Those 3 channeled tiles are the entrance to the fort.

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>>153076792
Wait, are you the one who posted the pic of the argiope spider earlier? Fuck, that's a bummer. How old was she?

Also, I get your feeling. I had a male zygiella spider move into my bedroom last sunday. During the days that passed, I got pretty attached to him. Then, yesterday, I happened to see him get pounced by a jumping spider. He managed to escape from the attack and avoid getting eaten, but he lost two legs and later died from his wounds.

Pic is how he looked when he was still healthy.

>>153077838
what does it say about the dorfs when you [v] them? "no job"? "experiencing mortal terror"(or whatever the phrase is)?
are you sure there's food available and you didn't accidentally lock it away from them?

>>153077838
Try drafting everyone into a militia and see if you can break them loose by stationing them somewhere else.

>>153079339
no job

Have plenty of food, also plenty of jobs queued up inside. Have mining designated, yet both miners just sit there dumbfounded. Have the broker called to the depot, yet he too just sits there dumbfounded.

>>153079828
and you're 100% certain you haven't blocked them off? it sounds to me like they can't get into your fort for some reason, maybe you channeled or dug something you shouldn't have

How do you pronounce Urist

>>153080215
Yeur-ist

>>153080018
I haven't changed anything though. I've seen them enter and exit fine before.

>>153079759
Drafted everyone. Stationed all inside. None of the stuck dorfs moved. Stationed all outside, miles away from the tick. None of the stuck dorfs moved.

>>153080215
similar to Your Wrist

>>153080215
>inb4 yeris

Seriously though: ʉːrist

>>153061014
>Taxes and taxes-related murders?
Now that you mention it, it could be really funny to be a king and be murdered by a liberal rebellion because your taxes were too high

But what I expect the most are contracts. Of all types, I think they would change a lot of in-game activities

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>>153080771
>it could be really funny to be a king and be murdered
>really funny to /---/ be murdered

Do appraiser skill matter? I fired my broker with legendary status for somebody with great appraiser because he didn't want to get to trade depot.

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>>153046950
Smashing a fucker's upper body into a lump of gore comes to mind. Takes obscenely high strength though.

>>153081409
I think appraiser works as a binary. As long as you're higher than dabbling you get all the possible benefits of the skill.

>>153081262
>not enjoying seeing various complex game mechanics to overlap causing hilarious and unpredictable results
>Not enjoying the !!!!FUN!!!!!

Do you even play the game?

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>kobolds

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>>153082670
>"civilization"

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>>153078974
Yar, she was just around 10 months old tops. She's a bit of a mess still since it's hard to clean all the goop up and I can't even begin to fix the damage seam or whatnot, but I guess I'm glad she didn't fall from me handling her.

He's neat looking, though if they were here they'd get killed a lot due to slight recluse similarity, we've got two good sized female spitting spiders posting up in different corners of our room, I actually got the missus to handle the larger one. Was hoping if I had to move Val again that she would be able to handle her too, since they're such docile spiders, she'll get to see how heavy she was but it's not quite the same.

>>153080215
Wrongly apparently, Toady says it like the beginning of "urge", oor-ist, but I'm in the "your-ist" camp.

>>153082019
Oh well then. I changed broker. Previous one did not return to Depot after first trade session to trade rest stuff so I choose closest and most skilled appraiser from other group.
Enjoy elves taking your jobs asshole.

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>>153083456
Those look gorgeous. The closest we got to them in Europe is argiope bruennechi(pic related). Those aren't nearly as big as the aurantias, though. They have supposedly become established as far to the north as southern Sweden, where I live, but I haven't had the pleasure to actually see one IRL yet.

Fuck, I wish someone would mod more arthropods in general, and more arachnids in particular, into DF. There are like four spider types in vanilla, and only two of them, namely the jumping spider and the brown recluse, are based on actual spiders. The other two, cave and phantom spiders, are just creepy crawlie stereotypes.

>>153084928
pet spiders when

>>153084994
I think the elves already bring tame vermin spiders and giant spiders, but due to their short lifespan, I usually don't buy them.

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>>153084928
The bruennechi is very similar looking to a younger aurantia.

They're great ambassador species since they are sooooo huge and dramatic but utterly predictable so you can let people who are leery know "you can get closer to look if you want" and then frame it as "but try not to scare her" and explain why they do the web-bouncing when they're nervous, it's hard to be scared of something YOU are now concerned about stressing out.

Had people come back to the house to ask if their little boy could take a picture with Skarlett, who was in the same spot last year.

>>153084994
I took the pet cave spider someone posted here and turned it into a huntsman, not a web-shooter, more like cats with the hunting behavior, really fast, with a quick paralysis and mild necrotic venom to "pre-digest" food, though I forgot the returns kill to owner tag actually.

http://pastebin.com/zfdJM4pz

>>153084994
>>153085614

I had GCS tamed once but one tantruming dorf murdered it.

>>153086657
At least it wasn't a breeding pair, still sucks to get that far though.

>>153086257
In better news, it looks like some of the remaining goop has kinda glued her on to the bit of plastic I used to keep her legs extended, so it will be easier to transfer her to a cleaner bag. I want to get that done soon so I don't have to risk her drying out too much and losing a leg in the process.

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>>153060620
>Can't figure out why nobody's had a kid yet

1. Dwarves are only capable of falling in love with and marrying other dwarves which are within 10 years of their own age.
2. Some dwarves might be gay/bi which given the default settings is something annoying like 15%-20% This can however be changed by editing the creature_standard raw file. Consult the wiki/forums on how to do this. search "Orientation"
3. There appears to be a hard-coded very small chance that dwarves are simply asexual and have no interest in reproduction.
4. There is a definite limit on how related one dwarf can be to another before it becomes impossible to have children. I believe as close as "first cousins" is allowed; any closer than that is not permitted and is hard-coded on sentients
5. Sentient/civilized creatures and non-sentient animals have different rules for reproduction. The biggest one is that dwarves who are lovers or are married are perfectly faithful even unto death; if a dwarf loses their lover, they're blue-balled forever. Also, grudges can never become lovers/married, dwarves have to be friends first. Again: Consult the wiki.

In order to actually get a fortress going from just 7 dwarves, you ABSOLUTELY REQUIRE:
- 3 pairs of hetrosexual dwarves; the 7th dwarf doesn't matter, or can act as a back-up player in the pre-lover stage if a dwarf of the same gender and age group dies.
- each pair has the dwarves within 10 years of each other
- each pair must have compatible personalities (ie: FRIENDS, or the ability to become friends/lovers)
- spending enough free time with one another to actually become lovers/married, AND enough time close to one another to make the children
- These dwarves survive long enough to produce *enough* children of different gender to grow the population

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>>153086657
>tfw your douchy roommate kills your spiderbro

>>153087434
God damnit.

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>>153087434
lol field too long

If you've SOMEHOW managed to restart the game until you get 3 pairs of perfect dwarves, AND none of them perform any retarded shit like dropping logs onto their soft heads, you'll eventually have 3 "families" in the fortress and a 7th hanger-on who'll be blue-balled forever.
The biggest management problem here is that there are only ever 3 lineages dwarves can come from inside the fortress. A, B, and C families.

So your founders pop out their children, they're mothers and fathers now! The first generation are all brother+sisters, so the only way for the "A" founders child to reproduce is with "B" or "C" founders children.
Assuming you have the patience to suffer through 14+ years of low frame rate, and the children are capable of marriage, they'll produce their own children belonging to their parents groups: A-B, B-C, and C-A. The founders are now grand-parents!

Here's the problem though: The only way for these (relative to the founders) grand-children to reproduce is with the group that they don't belong to: A-B has to marry to C, B-C has to marry to A, and C-A has to marry to B.

This means you need to KEEP YOUR FOUNDERS ALIVE NO MATTER WHAT, until the first generational age gap is closed. Dwarves can put out a child until their last day alive, so you now need to wait another 14+ game years before the grand-children of the founders have grown enough to have their own children.
THEN, those great-grand children marry a child of a similar age that was born from the family they're not a part of; a founders' child.

Confused?
Don't worry, the game tracks this shit for you!

Including when a tantrum spiral wipes out everyone because *EVERYONE IN THE FORT* GETS THE BAD THOUGHT OF THEIR SECOND COUSIN (ONCE REMOVED) GETTING KILLED!

>>153073585
It really depends on what stage you're in.
In the early game, keeping them generalized is good.
Once your population is higher, then you can start specializing and eventually have no generalization at all.

>>153088134
Oh, also, most dwarves start at about middle-aged, which is somewhere halfway towards 150 (the first year that they can die of old age; their last year to live is 170)
so expect a lot of 50-90 year olds, which is a huge gap when you're trying to generate *pairs* of opposite-sex friendly heterosexual dwarves who dream of starting a family, when paired are within 10 years of each other.

3 times.

>>153090445
>>153089301
>>153087434
Modding can mitigate a few of these problems
>Removing the maxage tag will make dwarves immortal, and therefore remove the 10 year age gap limit
>Changing orientation tags can force heterosexuality and disable asexuality
>Modding entity values to remove all respect for anything but family will force almost all dwarves to dream of raising a family(this will also disable strange moods though, since they require dreaming of mastering a skill, creating a great work or art or crafting a masterwork)

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>>153087434

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>>153091409
> immortality removes the 10 year age gap limit
didn't know that.

>and disable asexuality
only to the extent of orientation.
a dwarf that has lost their lover or spouse is effective from that point on, permanently asexual (this is the hard-coded thing i was refering to)

>>153091604
> i'm one!

> can somehow speak perfectly at the age of 1

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>>153093135
Could be worse.

>>153093234
what the fuck can you even gen a world that long without crashing the game?

>>153093234
ahaha what the phuck man

>>153093971
They get like 1/4 of their age before worldgen starts. it's how durrgins durr around.

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ok, I get it, I get it
I'll make sure all of the dwarves who are swimming 3 z-levels below the surface of the ocean know they need to be careful

>>153095947
>we'll never have free diving dorfs over a reef in a shipwreck scenario embark.

That werebeast guy again, my soldier pretty much healed until now, two months over

Nice

Guys, how can you make soap from lye?

It does not appear in the soapmakers workshop

>>153097292
all soapmaking uses lye, you goof
your choice is lye+oil or lye+tallow

>>153097292
Wood burner. Make ash
ashery make lye. You need buckets and barrels
Make sure you have a lye stockpile. it's in the food category
Make sure you have a tallow category, it's in the food category
Disable tallow cooking in the z-kitchen-other menu so you don't cook it all away or get oil
Make soap
If it bugs out, use manager orders to get it.

I was ""sieged"" by elves. Two elf crossbowmen.

>>153099108
Should have held them down and force fed them booze until they blacked out.

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>>153093971
>>153094361

I didn't, just a weird ass bug that happened when I infected several towns and hamlets and forts with the weremammoth curse.

>>153099756
Damn I really should have. Just let my human mercenary squad deal with them instead. Will keep that in mind for the next invasion of limpwrist knife ears.

Just played a bard for the first time and while it was fun singing down by the town well for fun and fame something kept telling me that something was missing. Thats when I realized the art form of acting is missing. I wonder if Toady will ever add acting and drama to the game as performances. Having a theatre in a fort would be pretty sweet tbqh.

>I go down the cavern with my military
>Kill a giant rat that is "Overcome by terror" after seeing my forces
>After the kill I just let them stand in the cavern and look out for monsters
>Suddenly a civilian passes them
>"Hunt"
>mfw

>>153104019
honestly, I'd be surprised if he didn't, but it's probably a long way off
at some point I think he's planning to bring festivals/celebrations/games into the world, so presumably all the art forms and performances will get tweaked and re-examined at that point

>>153104591
if it's the first cavern layer he might get away with it, although you'd probably be better served to do the hunting with your military

what do vault slabs do?

>>153104819
Yeah, I just turned it off. I will not let that guy die

Okay, I am slaughtering a town, sometimes in front of other townspeople.

Why are they all dumbfounded, asking if it's an attack? No one seems to be hostile.

>>153105241
Well, they're not sure if it's an attack or not
Maybe you should tell them
>moments ago, I killed [your neighbour]

>>153105241
You can tell them it's just a prank

DFHack 43.05 when?

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>>153093135

Haven't been active for 6 months, coming back, has Toady fixed the sexism in the game yet?

>>153105707

>he needs to cheat in this game

are you autism

>>153105586
>crazed madman kicks down door to my mudhut
>shanks my neighbors head off with a bronze carving knife
>wut do
>madman looks at me with tears in his eyes and tells me he just killed my neighbor even though I literally just witnesses it
>such is life in The Momentous Planes

>>153106295
Labor assigning makes this game literally unplayable without DFHack. Also quick save.

>>153106990
I almost forgot it's the weekend.

>>153107096
Is weekend the new summer now?

Just with more neet and less school?

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>>153106062

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>>153106115
No, females still get -4 strength.

>>153107268
It sure is.

>>153106062
Dorf Fort really should go free software though

Seriously though, these people don't seem to see my vampiric grizzly man ass as an enemy even though I slaughtered their lady and her royal guard plus half the town.

>>153107512
This

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>>153107414
>No, females still get -4 strength.
wtf

I hate Toady now

why am i getting notifications about caveins 130 levels below where I'm digging

is this any actual threat to my dwarves

>>153108080
It might be some FB starting fires in an undiscovered cavern layer.

>>153108540
doubt it
I just embarked and still only have 7 dwarves

>>153108540
this is obnoxious

[mining][mining] You have struck mica!
[mining][mining] A section of the cavern has collapsed!
[mining][mining] You have struck mica!
[mining][mining] A section of the cavern has collapsed!
[mining][mining] You have struck mica!
[mining][mining] A section of the cavern has collapsed!
[mining][mining] A section of the cavern has collapsed!
[mining][mining] A section of the cavern has collapsed!
[mining][mining] A section of the cavern has collapsed!
[mining][mining] A section of the cavern has collapsed!
[mining][mining] You have struck schorl!
[mining][mining] A section of the cavern has collapsed!
[mining][mining] You have struck rose quartz!
[weather][weather] It has started raining.
[mining][mining] A section of the cavern has collapsed!
[mining][mining] A section of the cavern has collapsed!

when is it the time to use burrows? I made a burrow for my doctors in the hospital and now the dumbshits are sleeping there and not leaving to eat.

>>153106378
>I hear my neighor was struck down by Crazed Madman the Shanker of Heads.
>It was inevitable.

>>153109368

They have gone deep undercover

>>153109368
>when is it the time to use burrows?
When you wan't your civilians to get out of harm's way during an attack.

>I made a burrow for my doctors in the hospital
Why the fuck would you do that?

>now the dumbshits are sleeping there and not leaving to eat
Big fucking surprise. You've explicitly forbidden them from leaving the burrow, and now you ask why they're not leaving the burrow?

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>Dwarf fortress.exe has stopped working

>>153110125
>You've explicitly forbidden them from leaving the burrow
Burrows don't work like that. They only prevent dwarves from taking jobs outside the burrow, but dwarves can path wherever they need to outside of the burrow to do those jobs, and idle dwarves can wander outside their burrows as they please. Civ alert burrows are the only exception.

>>153111476
fuck, somebody finally explained that shit rationally, and here I thought every burrow I made needed its own temple, cafeteria, and hospital

>>153112167
Also, if it helps, burrows can be discontinuous and you can paint multiple burrows over a single area. So you can have common areas for dining halls, temples, stockpile hubs, noble offices, etc, that are part of every burrow, while having dwarves work and live in their own industrial districts or whatever.

I was out traveling with companions in the middle of the night. Suddenly I feel uneasy and my companions come running with a handful of bogeymen in hot pursuit. We die.
Toady wtf.

>>153113135
You sure they were bogeys? They only appear when the adventurer is alone, and always around the adventurer. Could they have been night trolls?

>>153113576
Nope they were bogeymen. I was not pleased at all.

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>first adventure
>go to to fight a hydra
>getting really hungry so go into a local fort
>been to a few so figured out what they generally look like now
>notice no dwarfs anywhere at trade depot or around the building
>suddenly this happens

About to make my first fort after reading and watching a bunch of this.

Overwhelmed by just the sheer amount of stuff but what can I do to make myself safe from FB and Were-Monsters fucking me up early while im getting my bearings?

>>153114301
Just wall your entraces off. Nothing can destroy walls, so nothing can touch you if you don't leave any openings. Alternatively the same thing applies to bridges, so you can leave a walkway open for regular use then you can close it off when there's danger.

>>153115012
So as long as I have even just a wood wall around my fort then nothing can ever break in?

That seems too easy.

>>153115128
It has it's pros and cons. Not being able to trade is one.

>>153055409
>mfw I actually AM an austrian
nice man

How much faster is the 64-bit version compared to the older versions? I haven't played since 40.24.

>>153116595
Also how do you guys handle not playing with DFHack in 43.05?

>>153115128
Despite the memes, DF is actually extremely easy. There's nothing difficult about creating a strong fort.

This is purely because of the whole industructable wall thing, but without that the game really would be unplayably hard at times. Stuff like steel webspitting FBs would end your fort and there would be nothing you could do about it.

>>153116595
It's not faster, it's less slow. Bigger forts lose fps slower, massive stockpiles don't matter as much, crashes are less frequent on large maps.

Pathfinding and fluids still murder your CPU, but huge quantum stockpiles aren't as much of an issue.

>>153116728
The people who can't handle playing without DFHack just haven't updated. Simple as that.

>>153114078
I think it was because they were too far away, you said they came running.

Do not stay out at night or the bogeymen will get you

>>153114130
you've found your next meal

>>153116728
I just try not to cry over my horribly optimized fort.

>>153117045
>>153116908
I don't even remember what's DFHack for anymore. What do you guys use it for?

>>153117108
Easy labor management and quicksaving. Also all the search and category features.

>>153117221
I loved those search features, should I just use 43.03?

>>153117296
If you want to play Fortress mode, I would say yes. The adventure game mode doesn't get much of a benefit from DFHack anyways.

>>153117108
the only thing I ever used it for were the "clean" and "cleanowned" functions
I basically only installed it once and that was when I was trying to run a big aboveground castle and got twitchy when vomit and blood stains ended up on my marble floors
really don't miss not having it though

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>>153117616
Well, it does, but it's less difficult to notice when it isn't around. Having reveal and gm-editor and shit is great, launch is a hilariously fun script, why I started working on it in the first place after all, and firestarter I kinda feel bad about.

>>153118243
Never heard about them. I only just scratched the surface and left it at that.

>The Planter is caught in a burst of boiling gold
Does this leave them with gold spatters? Can't you melt gold pellets into skin?

>>153118243
Why does your text look so nice?

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>>153118695
This, the GemSet text set.

>>153118686
I got launch included in dfhack proper, names too, though I need to fix it (thankfully lethosor said he worked out the structures for viewscreen_setupadventurest), I forget if firestarter was in there, and it mostly left them on fire since it just set their inventory (if looking at it) or an item (if viewing the description) or the tile they're on (if just looking around) when the script is ran, same method I used for launch (it flings you at the cursor, so you point it where you want to go and it lets you "jump" up onto a rooftop or whatnot) basically since it's the logical choice for adventure mode scripts.

>>153117029
My two companions got torn to bloody pulp and I lost my right arm, how the heck do I get a weapon back after it gets lodged firmly? Also how do I kill a hydra with one arm?

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>>153120909
Interact with it or move or dodge away, when you have your weapon and shield, strap them down, then remove both manually and they'll be in the same hand.

If you're strong enough, other methods arise.

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>90% of forgotten beasts and titans are utterly pathetic and can be killed 1v1 by a crippled civilian
>the remaining 10% would effortlessly win a fight against the entire world all at once

New Thread

>>153121992

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>>153122046
>only 300 replies
shit nigga, what are you doing?

>>153117108
curing adventurers of asexuality
finding obscure stuff

>>153122046
Little early for that, don't you think?

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>>153122046

>>153122238
>>153122304
Well, at least there is a reference now when this one gets "surprisingly" achieved, so we will not have double threads :^)

>>153081574
>mastershit

>>153121913
Makes sense to me desi
Forgotten because they were laughable weaklings
Forgotten because nobody survived to tell the tale

>>153122706
>Mastershit invented orcs
>Nobody else in the universe is capable of creating their own mods

>>153122706
It's a smoother, richer, streamlined experience - better than toadshit has ever done