/edg/ & /scg/: Elite: Dangerous & Star Citizen General #26

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reposting

>>152962041
>he bought the terrapin

u fucking what

>>152962317
>E:Ds goal is to create a huge MMO
>MMO

er? No?
The game is not an MMO, Fdevs goal is not to make an MMO.

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>>152962317
nth for racing.

>>152962274
Nope mine was left outside GrimHex.

I gotta admit I love my Reliant, it doesn't seem to turn as bad as people were saying it did in the PTU. No idea if it is viable for...anything though.

>>152962429
I told that faggot to change it but he went rip in Kill before he fixed it. We can make a new one this thread

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Best ship.

>>152962467
>you will never go on wacky adventures in your brown, beat up Carrick that has a red P52 and a blue ARGO in its hangar

>>152962048
This. People in /scg/ complain that other cargo ships can't compete with the Hulls since they can carry greater loads at a time but fail to realize that a comparison of numbers is ignores other factors that affect real profit and success. Hull ships look very attractive until you realize they can't protect anything for shit and that even the virtual poorfag with the hull A will need to shell out money for an escort.They're great options in safe space and if you're doing very well the escorts aren't a problem but the fact that you need a specific environment to make them function properly is very limiting, especially when coupled with the fixed and unmalleable role of a freighter the series has compared to the Freelancer.

>>152962467
First for dragonfly biker gangs.

>>152962757
>implying you're going to be able to protect yourself in a freelancer anyways

>>152962757
>all this theory crafting

We have no idea how much anything you are saying is the case. Looking at the way they have been building out the Stanton system, people may well be able to make whole careers trading WITHIN ONE SYSTEM, and there is no reason that can't be a central heavily policed one like Stanton, Magnus, Terra, etc.

Or maybe you are right, and you won't be able to earn the big space bucks without traveling through dangerous areas. But we don't know either way, so it isn't anything to take a stand on either way.

>>152962910
I'm fairly certain there's going to plenty of trade runs that involve no combat whatsoever. To design it otherwise would be utterly stupid from a gameplay standpoint let alone realism.

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>>152962640
You could probably put an M50 in there for the full Swordfish experience.

>>152961995
>What ships do you like?
Mostly things that don't just look like planes.
I really like the Reliant, mode shift ships are really, really cool to me, and I like that it's a vertical design over the predominately horizontal ones. The Khartu-Al as well, but it doesn't have any cargo room.

The Cutlass looks really cool too, it strikes me as a car design, with the front fin/wing things being the front wheels and the engines in the back being rear wheels.

The Freelancer is nice, but I just feel like it's too big for me.
I'd like a Pick-up, not a Semi. And I really feel like the Reliant fits that role perfectly, but I don't have it and I don't feel like I can't really make my own opinion on how it flies, it's armament, and so on without being able to fiddle with those things.

>>152961892
>janky movement

Try out the hangar and see if you can actually look around. Then go into live and see if you can or can't. This is bugging me.

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thread theme desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8ZBT-VHrA

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spacial escape tactics

>>152962317
Fix the fucking font, dickwad

>>152963081
>freelancer too big

I feel like it looks a bit cramped. I want a ship I can live in.

>>152963046
Right, the point is, are those going to be viable or just boring ED style drudgery, with way better money on more dangerous routes?

If they actually do keep with the current star system scale they are building 3.0 with, the universe is going to be way bigger than anyone anticipated. That "you could spend dozens of hours in one system" promise actually seems accurate. And many of the safest systems are right next to each-other, with stable, large jump points connecting them

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good old forum dads

>>152963132
Looking is much better in general, yeah, it's the way the characters more that is janky, in the hangar or the babby PU

>>152963642

>poorfags buying only crew account
>begging in this general to be niggers on your ship

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>>152963642
More like poorfag begging for free codes. And it'll likely work on the reddit rubes.

>>152963642
>"Dad can we play the game too?"
>"Little faggots, this is a mans game, fuck off! Video games is serious business."

are fucking planetary base assualts working correctly atm? I've scanned all the points in 5 different ones and gotten nothing back (except the intel package) i need modified emdedded firmware for grade 5 multicannons

>>152963081
Seems like we have pretty similar taste in ships desu senpai.

People like to exaggerate how bad any ship is. I'd let you fly around in my Reliant, but I have no idea how matchmaking works. Honestly if you just ask nicely at Port Olisar someone will let you.

Armament wise it is very comparable to the other starter ships, it's weakness is how it falls to pieces at the moment, though hopefully they will fix that. Who knows.

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>>152962571
Ftfy

>>152962910
What I've said is the ideal balance that the devs have repeatedly said they want. If, in practice, protection isn't that important, game balance is ruined. Ships like the 'Lancer (especially the MAX) become redundant and pure dogfighters will be limited in job opportunity.

>bought asp
>its just spess trukk with more dakka

wtf i hate asp now, if i go back to courier i wont lose any money right?

>>152963642
He could just let them play on his account. Hell with the new ship transfers they wouldn't even have to use his ship.

>>152962910
Trade runs typically work in that the shorter and safer the route, the less money you'll get. So it may take a lot of runs, or a lot of cargo, to make things break even.

Now I don't know if stuff like fuel costs are going to be in the game, or how much they are, but it might end up being that ships like the Hull series, generally being so large, use up so much fuel that in system runs simply are not cost effective. the other reason I'm not super attracted to the Hull series (aside form it's sleek sexy look when not carrying any cargo, can we please get the Hull cockpit on the Freelancer?) is that it looks like it has little in the way of defensive ability for how much potential money it can have.

The website even mentions this with the Reliant promo page
>While the Hull line is solely dedicated to moving cargo from point to point with little interference, the nimble and better-armed Reliant is ideal for journeys that might involve an engagement or two

>>152963962
you'll lose 10% of the asps price unless they changed it recently

>>152963962
10% off each ship sale. No loss on mods. So always sell those mods first.

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who /terrapin/ here? looks nice

>>152964315
I'd get one if it were cheaper
Maybe I'll buy it with ingame currency one day

In other news
>These are intended design changes but it just so happens that 2.5.0 catches us right in the middle of the older HUD/Combat Visor system and the completion of the redesigns in our Multi Function Displays.

Some of the MFDs are blocked by the helmet, some are too small to ready, some are just awkward to read in combat. We're actively working on our UI experience now, and we'll have much more for you in 2.6.0.

So, if I upgrade to a new ship, will things like the insurance and such from the old package I got transfer with it?

I understand right now you have infinite spawns of the ship you got, I'm just curious.

>>152963942
They've made vague statements towards more risky runs being worth more yeah, but how much that is the case, and how risk/reward will actually be calculated by real players in whatever meta develops in the actual game, is all ???.

>>152964052
Yeah, like you say there are even more variables in there like fuel, and possibly the market being dynamic, so runs changing all the time. You can just as easily say that, with the massive amount of money you need to spend on the larger Hulls, and the amount of cargo they shift, the game will HAVE to make them hella viable. Or maybe they will fuck that up and they won't be seen as useful. CIG could end up highly overvaluing expensive goods, making the most profitable runs always being in Freelancers or Constellations.

There are just so many variables is all I'm saying, so adopting a know-it-all attitude right now is silly. Even with the trading meta you can extrapolate from everything CIG has said there are loads of what ifs, and that is giving the BIG what if that things will work exactly how they envision.

>>152964476
only thing that changes is the ship.

>>152964476
Yeah, if you use a CCU, you get the insurance and the package FROM the ship you are upgrading.

>>152964656
>>152964712
okay, I thought so. thanks.

>>152963760
>fill ship with spees niggers
>directly into sun
>strand at station
>???
>profit, except jk there's no profit in E:D, only more grind

>>152964315
I hate that they're tricking people into honestly believing that you can be some kind of tanky god in this - like you can legitimately go into pirate or vanduul space and ward off enemies by not dying.

>>152964863
Yeah, is it just me or is the Terrapin actually bad at absolutely everything? I mean it looks cool, but I can't work out who the fuck this ship is for.

>>152964863
It's got one fucking turret. Who's retarded enough to think this flying brick is going to fight anyone.

>>152964930
It's probably been concepted by the Fat One instead of the much more competent folks over at Foundry 42.

>>152964930
I think it's also shit, based on description. 0 cargo immediately rules it out for me. I also think the principle of heavy armor reliance is stupid. You should never bet on your armor to keep you alive rather than fighting back.

>>152964619
Trade as a player controlled thing will always be tricky. In the age of sail, typically trading ships were very heavily armed themselves, and had escorts. You'd really only find more firepower (legally) in a navy ship and fleet. Treasure ships were rather well protected. Some of the most famous pirate ships were originally treasure ships upon which the pirates added even more canon.

Problem is making the trade ships too safe means that people won't bother to attack them, or would be forced to attack in such large numbers that there's little to no profit.

But the idea is that the Hull series is a purely focused cargo carrier, so the idea of it losing "points" in other catagories; either it will be really slow (or expensive to fly) or it will have less in the way of weaponry (which is what it looks like right now, but that can, of course, change) or a combination of both, seems like a natural presumption.

holy fuck this is the worst. i have now done 8 of these dumb base assaults in a row and gotten absolutely nothing

>>152965332
>>152965082
>>152964963
>>152964930
>>152964863
The whole thing just sounds like 'NPC ship' to me.

Which isn't a bad thing, just not something I'd want to fly around in or pay money for.

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>>152965637

does look cute though

>>152964930
It has been remarked that it's fundamentally flawed for exploration, search and rescue, and combat, yes.

>>152965457
I doubt you'll see many Hull-C or bigger outside of the safest system. I bet most of them will be transporting low profit goods between Earth and Terra.

>>152966075
I'd imagine you'd only see the larger Hulls out of "safe zones" as part of a fleet from an organization, or more likely a couple, with profits to be shared by all. That probably won't be a common thing, I agree.

>>152966075
>Hull C + going into unsafe space for common missions
>ever

hell the fuck no. I doubt there's even going to be enough material to ship there.

But. If a Hull C full of very, very valuable goods is heavily escorted into somewhere like Nul, Hades, or otherwise, i'd suspect the profit to make orgs moist. I'd love that kind of gameplay. Either way, I think the Hull E and D are too large for effective player use. Multiple Hull Cs would be seemingly better than the others. You're fucking trapped with the others.

>>152966075
I think quality of life goods will have a very high demand in low sec since, you know, their quality of life is shite and they can't get them elsewhere.

>>152966787
I want to deliver shit and explore some shitty fallout postapocalyptic world

>apparently flight stick aiming is broken
>I've been damn accurate with my shots

I hope it's fixed so I can become a sniper or something.

>>152962757
You also forgot jump point restructions

There are places a freelancer can go that a hull cannot

>>152965715
Ew, its not aegis style.

>>152967671
It just needs a bubble cockpit and it would fit their pre-edgelord style

>>152967671
>Aegis style

What is Aegis style? You have the space shuttle Avenger. Then you have the Idris, the Retaliator, and the Surveyor. Aside from the surveyor which I don't know what it looks like, none of these ships really share any sort of similar style that I can see.

>>152964315

>TFW you get a Terrapin for 145 dollars instead of 195 dollars.

>>152968601
CIG just made a mistake when they returned my explorer package.

They gave me the money back but didnt take the package off of my account. So I melted it down. Had around 350 dollars in my store credit after that. What should I buy?

>>152968551
Space planes

>>152968551
>What is Aegis style
Space planes an helis.

>>152968743
Buy everyone Argos.

>>152968743

For 350? Endeavor or Carrack (or Orion). Any other ship besides those is a stupid choice at that price.

>>152968919
But then im stuck with an Argos as a main ship... I like the idea though.

>>152968960
You could always upgrade it if you keep some spare.

Why is the 325a even a ship, I feel so agile but powerless

>>152966947
Star systems: Tiber, Virgil, and Orion will excite you. Sadly we must wait for them to be made first, but looking at their lore never hurts I guess.

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>>152969631
>IM GONA CUM ON ALL OF YOUR SHIPS
why are you giving them what they want?

what they really deserve is hot death

>>152970320
The 325a can pack some serious punch. You just need to rearm it to solve its crippling overheating issue.

>>152970347
Got a link?

>>152970451
Suggestions for a loadout?

>>152970451
Any recommendations? Just made some cash and I fucking hate how quickly it overheats

>>152963803
You only get modified embedded firmware from high and medium security bases with a size of +++ or ++.

>>152970584
>>152970591
Look for a 2.5 spreadsheet of weapon stats and work it out yourself. I don't have one that updated. Try to monoboat anyway so all three weapons converge, or at least have the nose weapon be a tier up from the wings. Possibly with tarantulas still?

It took me ages last time I flew my 325a but I did find a loadout that dealt with the overheating.

>>152970481
Just look up Star Citizen Galactic guide with the system name after it.

But anyway: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/spectrum-dispatch/14437-Virgil-System
https://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13061-Jump-Point-Orion-System
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/spectrum-dispatch/13614-Tiber

With the exception of Tiber, these systems seem to offer apocalyptic vistas.

>>152962571
>>152963928
Are you the same guys every thread? At least post some new pictures, smfh

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>>152970843
energy- panther on nose, omnis on wings
ballistic- broadsword on nose S2 tarantulas on wings

The only Low Overheating option I can think of would be monoboating S2 badger repeaters

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I want to hunt and kill vanduul for money in the PU

Fuck trading
fuck mining
fuel fueling.

I must kill.

>>152971286
That's an impressive directive.

>>152971286

Reported for potential grieffer. I don't think you'll fit in with the community we're trying to create.

>>152971245
Why not panther on nose, bulldog (or is it badger, I always get the two mixed up) on wings?

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>>152971286
Nobody can understand the scorn I hold for such vile creatures. We must wipe them from existence in this dimension.

>>152971790
Jeez who raped and murdered your family?

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>>152971790
Fuck the Scythe
Fuck the Blade
Fuck the Stinger

Revenge is best served hot from my ballistic gatlings forged in the deepest pits of hell

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>>152971286
I'll be a spacemarauder with you

NO MORE TALK
WE GO IN
WE GO IN WE KILL

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>>152971790
>>152972113
I'mma run that through my translator.

Yep.. Deep hard rape fantasy.

>He wants the Vanduul dick.

Anon starting out to play elite dangerous here

Can I just go outside of 'the bubble' and go and try to find the USS Voyager all alone and get all the exploration money, or is that just a waste of time?

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>>152971671
I'd much rather be using the badgers than the OS6s, but the ammo speeds match better.
Omnisky 6 projectile velocity-1970
Panther Repeater projectile velocity-1900
Badger Repeater projectile velocity-2500

And matching targeting pips is critical until they add some way to adjust this stupid system.

Why don't we just call this space sim general?

Are there any other full generals out there that also cover EDG/SC type space sims?

>>152972543
Because there's only two games being discussed here.

>>152972543
Because the threads died when people couldnt just CTRL+f in catalog and type in edg or scg

>>152972609

But the OP pic already says Rogue System is OK, the title would be a lot better than the awkward merged /edg/ and /sc/, and we could attract people who go off to play Freelancer while they wait for SC to be released.

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>>152972113

Not even the Hadesians, with their radioactive and fractured celestial bodies of ashes and bloody molten mountains can comprehend the absolute vitriol I hold for this scum called the vanduul.

80mm anarchy will RAIN on their sorry, helpless souls. I will not stop until their teeth are mixed with the glass of what was once their mobile battlestations. I am the havoc of all eternity. This is my royal decree of revenge and ultimate destruction.

>>152972719
Don't be fucking autistic. Go make your own space sim general, see how long it lasts.

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>"These are intended design changes but it just so happens that 2.5.0 catches us right in the middle of the older HUD/Combat Visor system and the completion of the redesigns in our Multi Function Displays. Some of the MFDs are blocked by the helmet, some are too small to ready, some are just awkward to read in combat. We're actively working on our UI experience now, and we'll have much more for you in 2.6.0."

getting real sick of this "we're removing the working system now and leaving shit broken, because we plan on adding a better one two or three months from now" crap CIG has been doing.

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what is currently the best ship/loadout for farming rec?

>>152973138
Sabre 3 panthers

Marginally best ship in the game.

>>152973263
so a saber with panthers all fixed? seems with the maneuvering changes that would be kind of shitty

the asteroid field racing in SC is going to be fucking cool. asteroids give me boner. discuss.

>>152973376

Sabre was never sloppy and has had its agility buffed in 2.5.

What exactly is the difference between the 315p and the 325a?

A bigger gun set? And thats it?

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>>152973376
The sabre didn't get hit that bad by the changes. It just feels more like it's clearly a larger ship than the Gladius now.

The buggy aim assist is far more of a problem

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>>152973456
I want to live in one. Asteroids in the baby PU look terrible.

>>152973643
Some yet to be released combat software for the 325a and some explorarion stuff for the p.

But yeah all 300is are really similar.

We'll be able to mix and match armor sets in SC right? So i could eventually have a medium armor helmet and heavy armor everything else?

so how often are things like hotfixes and stuff put in place?

Or would any fixes to control systems or ships be something that I'd be waiting for 2.6 for?

>>152973643
>>152973819

Also 315p has larger fuel tanks and the 325a has some armour (not sure if implemented yet). 325a also comes with missile racks.

If I get a Freelancer and call it the Eagle 5 and name my character Lonestar is someone going to be my Barf?

>>152973643
Technically nothing. 315p is just a 300i that is geared for up for exploring, and the 325a is a 300i with armor, missiles and more guns equipped. They all have the same equipment options and hard points.

The only 300 series ship that actually has a modified body is the 350r with it's twin engines

>>152972363
The whole of korean grindfest is a waste of time. Save yourself. Get a refund

>>152973939

If there are a couple of serious issues that they can fix then they can sometimes do an incremental update like 2.4.1. I would not count on an update before 2.6.0 though as they should be getting that out in the next ~8 weeks.

>>152973075
>getting real sick of this "we're removing the working system now and leaving shit broken, because we plan on adding a better one two or three months from now" crap CIG has been doing.

have you ever though, stick with me here, that the game is... an Alpha? And perhaps what we have now is more of a test then a proper playable game?

>>152974171

On top of this, removing the helmet HUDs now means that all of the 2.5.0 feedback on HUD (and I'm sure that there will be a lot) will be foccussed on the MFDs. This is what they need to design good MFDs.

>>152974017
I'll do it bby <3 o777

>>152974302
Now we need a trap to play a female named Vesba and someone to play Dot.

>>152974540
Vespa*

Former /edg/elord here, I quit right when Engineers was released and people were getting killed by full-auto railgun sidewinders. Have they fixed the game/made it fun/killed all dads yet?

Is there anything really interesting in the SC lore? It just seems like the most generic, boring SF setting I've ever seen. All Chris wanted the most basic background required for his space dogfights.

>>152962317
now this is the best OP I have seen in /vg/ for a long time

>>152975262
Yes, no, no.

>>152975262

They fixed ships having auto fire railguns and only high-rank NPCs have Engineer mods. As to whether the game is fun now, I suppose it's a matter of perspective. I fucking hate Engineers because it didn't "unlock your ship's potential." It just adds another layer of grind and destroyed any balance this game had since Engineers don't really change your ships, they simply give you percentage boosts on your modules. If you want to PvP, you must grind out the module upgrades to rice out your ship, there is no option. If you want to PvE, you can ignore Engineers since they don't really change anything, they simply make everything you were doing before go by faster.

>>152973456
Asteroid racing could make for some rally courses with the ever changing layouts and whatnot.

Not that this game would have copilots that could do that, but still.

>>152975262
I didnt get to see full auto suprise winders but the game isnt more fun. Just more grind.

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F-four hours grinding and I only got to 88 percent.

At this rate I think I'll have enough money to buy a Vulture and skip the courier entirely.

can you walk around in your ships in elite?

>>152976372
Nope.

>>152976372
LOL. Hell the fuck no you can't.

>>152976489
>>152976443
meh

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>>152975262
The engineers bullshit got fixed, they fucked up their pointers for their NPC generation code, so abominations like frag cannons shooting 50 beam lasers are no longer a thing. Combat against NPCs has improved quite a bit, they aren't braindead anymore and they can't kill you with idiotic glitched weaponry. Other than that, they made a QoL sweep on the Engineers system, mats are easier to find and accrue. There was a change to what mats are used for certain upgrades I think. Just check the patch notes on it. As far as what is coming in October for 2.2, there's everything in pic related.

>>152972372
You should be able to buy a targeting computer (only available on military or combat leaning ships like the 325a) that can synchronize your shots and bring the pips together

>>152976764
They already confirmed thats never happening

>>152976902
Then what will the combat software do?

>>152977178
Allow you to lock multiple missile targets (like the 325A does right now) or lower lock time. Could be required for certain weapon mods, I don't know.

They just specifically said they weren't going to do that.

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>>152977341
Other fighters can't lock multiples?

Not that it does much either way except waste missiles.

>>152977467
I was able to in the cutlass, not sure if thats supposed to have the "software" or not, but. Worth mentioning.

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Are there any fps improvements in 2.5?

Also has anyone bought the Reliant and is it any good

Does decoupled have it's own control scheme? Why does my joystick's yaw and roll axis flip when I switch between them?

>>152977884
Yeah I think for some reason decoupled has it's own controls in the mapper.

>>152977763
Haven't bought one, want to because it looks sexy as hell, but the one I found handled well once some bug from someone hopping out of it midflight was fixed.

I've been told it's ass though, not handling well, and being fragile. it apparently handles worse than it did on the PTU

>>152978006
Damn, I was planning on upgrading my Aurora shitbox to it because it has 2 seats. If it's garbage and fragile there's no point since there's no cargo to be held atm.

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>>152963928
For whatever reason, I can't hit shit when flying the Avenger, and can kill pirates faster in my Aurora LN. Had a chance with a Freelancer and that kills them like they're butter, but the right wing seems to have a critical issue and seems to destroy itself easily.

>>152978193
Well, I'd say to ask at port if anyone has one and could left you test drive it. My limited expereince with it has been at odds with what I've read, minus the combat since I didn't get into that.

or just use your shit box to get some rec and rent it in Arena and fly it about and everything there.

>been traveling off and on for a couple hours a day for the past week
>only 4k from the bubble

FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKER.
I CANT WAIT TO BE BACK IN MY FAS.

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>>152963928

>>152978006
>it apparently handles worse than it did on the PTU

That's bullshit, it is flyable now, whereas it was a complete mess in the PTU.

>>152978779
What fucking gun is that? Jesus Christ.

>https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/769023482898374656

Sorry guys, Star Citizen is over.

>>152978779
Look at that reverse every few times it flips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n-HMSCDYtM

It is not as pronounced as what is happening in the video but I am pretty sure it is the same fanomenon

>>152979191
Possibly the dumbfire missiles on the Delta?

>>152975330

OK, so guess I was right, there's nothing interesting about SC lore.

>>152979209
>pokefag with a fedora wearing pikachu avatar

wew lad

>>152979270
>the same fanomenon

Oh my god are you WA LA anon?

>>152979209
Ok then.

>>152979209
literally who

>>152979209
What was the Escapist right about?

Who is Nick Monroe?

I'm not being a blind fanboy and being all snarky, i'm genuinely curious.

>>152979417
Whoops, no don't know who that is. I am not I just took a stab at phenomenon and let auto correct take it with out thinking.

>>152979506
>>152979516
Hes the guy Derek paid to doxx people and also was harassing Dodger, he used to work for the Escapist as a writer until his editor was alerted to this and he got sacked.

Now he writes for literally who and pretends to be a big deal. He's also friends with the girl who wrote the Escapist article for SC.

Are you all ready for the Escapist part 2 : shitposting boogaloo?

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>>152979734
This about answers any questions I had about this literally who.

>>152980075
Hes basically a drama fiend who lives for click bait, being friends with Derek means SC gets a special spotlight from him.

>>152971286
>fuel fueling

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>>152980075
>https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/769023482898374656
>when your parents want to name you dick, but don't want to ruin your life so they name you nick instead

>>152979296
bingo

>>152971286
>You can't play as a Vaandul
>You will never be a space Vaandul translator bridging gaps between the species

whats the fucking POINT

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Just came back from Frankfurt. Sadly we only had ~30 minutes because whoever scheduled our visit was unaware that they had to do the preparations and actual RTV stream afterwards.

Anyway, got to meet Brian Chambers. Really cool guy. Gave a tour of the office and talked about procedural planets for a bit. Apparently the first iteration of that was made by a single guy who asked for permission then kind of disappeared for 2 months, after which he returned with a working system. Originally planets weren't scheduled until months later.
I asked him how long it would take them to create a planet from scratch. According to him they can get an entire planet with proper terrain on which you can land everywhere in a couple of minutes. Artists have access to tools that allow them to simply paint zones on a planet and the editor will automatically fill that out with prebuilt assets (rocks/plants etc. depending on the planet type) in a way that doesn't look repetitive. Buildings can be created from prebuilt blocks as well and ultimately the time it takes depends on how much gameplay they want a certain planet to offer. He hinted at the possibility to put "empty" systems in the game, then adding more gameplay to that in a later patch.

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>>152976146
If you want a change of pace, try Wu Guinagi and HIP 10716 for Empire rep.

Get 20 data delivery missions to Wu Guinagi from the one orbital in HIP, then visit the three stations in Wu, dropping off data and grabbing missions for the unvisited stations in Wu and HIP. When you get to the last station in Wu, get 20 missions to deliver data back to the one orbital station in HIP. Repeat.

>>152981196
To elaborate on that, they hosted several artists from the UK office for a couple of weeks tasked with creating a whole variety of assets for different environment types, including urban and ice planets. According to Chambers the hard part of the work going into procedural planets is done at this point.

>>152981327
I'll give this a try.

I went bounty hunting for a while to a Hi-RES but my Diamondback S isn't particularly resilient.

>>152981196
Very cool, thanks for the information anon.

Already knew about the paintbrush stuff, but the fact that it was started with one guy is really cool.

>>152981196
>PG project started by a single German wizard just because he wanted to
>can shit out an entire planet in minutes
>artists can bucketfill areas to designate badlands, jungle, empty towns, giving a planet biodiversity in probably a few minutes more
holy fuck that is cool stuff. literally a game changer, imagine if that guy hand;t asked permission to do that shit? our gamescom demo would have been the same as their scripted landing on area 18 demo, except on Hurston or something, and it would have had the same janky cloud loading screen.

>>152981196
I don't care if every other single aspect of this game is shit, if they can make some comfy ass planets then I'll be autistic and explore them for months.

>>152981656
the 'paintbrush' filling is actually pretty old tech, 3d environment programs (think Poser, but for landscapes) had the ability to do this stuff. I used to use it five or six years ago when I needed a 3d backdrop.
So they basically made a graphics suit adding in stuff from other set ups, they didn't invent the idea of it, though what they did for theirs I couldn't say.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15482-Squadron-42-Hoodies-Now-Available

Finally some new merch. The Drake hoodie is legit the comfiest one I've ever owned.

>>152982096
The paintbrush isnt what they're proud of. I'm sure its the planet generation and the fact that its "seamless" how seamless? I dont fucking know.

>Some guy wants CIG to pay Mike Rowe to narrate (and or appear in) MISC commercials.

My God. I didn't know I wanted this until this very moment.

>>152979658
That's okay, dyslexic anons are okay, I thought you were a genuinely retarded one.

>>152982137
I'm wearing mine right now, super fucking comfy.

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>>152982096
takes separate assets and "randomizes it" so you wouldnt see the same house/building right next to each other, NPC's will actually interact with these towns/cities/camps and live and walk in them.

that's what I read, where? I have no fucking clue. I should really make a .txt with sources at this point when I have an answer so you can read further on it.

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Dropship Vanguard preview from the newsletter.

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>>152982573

>>152982656
That is an entirely different ramp.

Can someone post how to make the optimal Tradeconda and how much it costs?

>>152982656
Vanguard dropship seems shoehorned in as hell. unless you're meant to parachute from it.

>>152982365
https://youtu.be/mDQpo23vfLw

Oh man... Where can I pledge for this?

>>152982852
Optimal long-range tradeconda costs around 178 million, though you should have 200 million so you can afford the costs if you die.

>>152982862
Because the Redeemer was basically mothballed and they need a dropship for SQ42.

>>152983001
>"The misc Freelancer MAX is the only ship in it's class that can carry 123 pieces of precious cargo. That's over double the leading competitor."

Please.

>>152983001
>Ford still puts leaf springs on their shit
I don't even mind, but it still amuses me.

>>152982656
Absolutely RIP Redeemer. You aren't missed.

>>152983945
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who still owns one. Why? I'm not sure why I still own one. I kind of liked the idea of a more combat oriented Constellation with a better silhouette I guess.

>>152982656
Redeemer looks better for me.

>>152982656
literally a Redeemer built from Retaliator parts. entirely pointless ship, unless they couldn't make the redeemer work.

>>152983110
combat log lad

Okay, I think I'm a little confused on the new weapon system they're doing.
Could I, for instance, take the turret off of a Freelancer and make it a static weapons platform for two guns?

Is something wrong with the site? I can't sign in to RSI but I can get ingame.

How do I get to Grim Hex

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>interdicted near a star
>escape vector is inside the star
>fall through the star, take loads of damage
>supercruise out
>enemy NPC is nowhere to be seen
Frontier Dev is probably laughing at this around their watercooler

I just noticed that engineers sell already upgraded modules sometimes. They called Enhanced Performance (module), wonder what grade they are and you can upgrade them on top of that.

>>152985571
Ram another ship at port olisar

>>152985629
I think it's only thrusters and they only go up to 3A.

>>152985571
>Fly to ISS (or whatever) Probe
>Fly to yella
>Aim right a bit
>Fly until you hit a cluster of asteroids that looks weird

you guys need to realize you will reach adulthood and, in some cases, will experience first sex before SC comes out

>>152984701
>unless they couldn't make the redeemer work.

Its a video game anon, they could make a giant flying phallus work.

Its just the Redeemer looks like hot garbage

>>152986205
>lost virginity 11 years ago
>need clarification on adulthood

I'm fugged

>spend forever finding grimhex
>land
>walk inside
>use elevator
>walk some more
>fall through floor and stuck inside screwed up lattice of bullshit

ROBEEEEERTS

So kind of new to SC here, I saw a glaive in the PU, how do you get them? I know you have to beat vanduul swarm to be eligible to buy one, but I thought that was only usable in Arena Commander?

Am I missing something?

>>152986447
>being raped as a toddler

I'm sorry anon. Did it scar you?

>>152986529
The Vesperia Glaive will be available in the Persistent Universe in very, very select locations. It's a real rare ship. If you beat Vanduul Swarm you can rent one and it carries over into the current persistent universe we have here, but that won't be the case forever.

>>152986529
They introduced them at Gamescom last year and they made 1000 or so availible for purchse for those with the Vanduul Swarm badge. Shit cost $350.

>didn't play combat ships for a few months since did lots of exploring
>get in vulture
>combat zone
>2 eagles team up against me
>Warning, Impulse attack!
>Warning, Impulse attack!
>Warning, Impulse attack!
>literally 1 more percent until FSD charges up
>shields go down
>get two rockets
>thrusters offline
>die
tfw can't git gud

>>152986675
>>152986694

Huh, interesting. Thanks
Are they any good at fighting?

when/will they fix the dogfighting so it's fun

I liked some of the previous versions with lower acceleration and some weapon spread so you could actually stay on target for more than a second

right now everyone is maximum thrusting back and forth every time anyone gets near them and it's a bitch to follow them. I only get kills when someone doesn't notice me shooting at them since the sound effects for weapon impacts are so low

>>152986816
no, not really. They're really just collectors items.

>>152986816
They're pretty gimped right now, but they're supposed to be better than a Super Hornet.

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>>152986816
>vanduul ships
>good

>>152986712
>eagles
Glass cannons. Just fuck them up quickly.

You should be able to out-manoeuvre them.

>>152986618
I was technically raped at the age of 17 by a 23yo amazon

In other news: my booty is blasted by the underwhelming reliant. I scrapped my tana in the hopes of getting a buccaneer.

I love the reliant design so much that I'm thinking about getting a sen for babies first explorer. What do you think?

>>152981196
>>152981656
I know right!?

If planets are done right there could be a lot of fun and adventure to be had. A powerful organization could colonize a planet and form their own player run towns and government, a city state of sorts. If two or more orgs colonized you could end up with different countries.

I love all the space stuff and ships but a whole planet could contain all sorts of adventures. I could spend a lot of time planetside and when I finally do go to space it might be more special.

Personally I'd love to form a dragonfly biker gang and cruise around and stuff.

>>152983347
Where is this non misc ship that hold 60 unit of cargo?

>>152986946
>better than a super hornet

absolutely wrong. Super hornets were quite literally made to counter the Vanduuls regular fighters, like the Scythe and Glaive. 2 equally skilled pilots in a SH and Glaive respectively will always result in the glaive losing.

It has a fucking tremendous profile, isn't very durable, and the weapons are completely absorbed by shields and overheat fast as balls.

Vanduul fighters are good in swarms, but are shit in 1v1

>>152987318
From a dev, its
Glaive > SH > Scythe > Hornet

>>152987318
There was an interview with a fucking developer that said it's supposed to go Civ Hornet>Scythe>Super Hornet>Glaive. The military hornet is a counter to Vanduul fighters, the civilian one gets shit kicked by them.

the procedural planets are cool but they think they will be making entire planets covered in a city and full scale cities you can fly through full of NPCs

right now they can only have like 40 NPCs in one area

I wish they'd finish all the space stations and landing zones first desu

>>152987105
I'm using a loadout from the forums yet whenever more than one thing starts firing at me, my shields get raped nearly instantly and since the vulture has the speed of a snail with down syndrome, I die.

>>152987463
Arrows the wrong way around you mad man

>>152987469
inb4 they realize the scope they promised and start copypasting existing assets over all the planets in all the systems, like elite

>>152987463
I put the symbols the wrong fucking way.
CivHornet<Scythe<Super Hornet<Glaive

>>152987512
Which build?

>>152987219
Nissan Avenger Titan

>>152987469
>making entire planets covered in a city and full scale cities you can fly through full of NPCs

They literally never promised this you dimwit.

>>152987572
Obviously?

Heavily populated planets have regulated landing zones.

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Star Citizen killvette when

>>152985647
Is it that easy to become an outlaw?

>>152987219
Avenger/cargo retaliator.

>>152987754
The Corvette will be released at Citizencon, probably.

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So I'm making a new account on Roberts Space Industries, and I see I can input a referral code.
I've seen autists in the forums that set it on their posts signature, but fuck those, I prefer to give some of you guys whatever reward you will get.

So I will enter the first code any of you give me.

Also another question, is getting the Exploration Starter Pack worth it or should i get something cheaper and then claw my way up when the game launches?

Thank you all beforehand.

>>152987754
>brit emblem
I wont fly this.

>>152987641
I don't remember where I got it from, but it has the dual pulse lasers, 2 shield boosters, loads of hull reinforcement kits and upgraded bulkheads, etc. Guy basically wrote a wall of text why this is really good so I decided I'd use it.

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>>152987469
Large cities will probably be special zones you load into. I doubt you will be able to fly to and through them like Terra or Earth etc.

Planets with smaller cities and settlements will probably be mostly traverseable. I'm looking forward to ADVENTURE across planets like this >>152987179


I'm curious how they will fill planets with flora and fauna. Will it be procedural too or what? Are we going to find similar animals on different planets? I don't want another Nomansky.

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>>152987754
>invasion stripes

>>152988076
I would but a mod has been on a warpath even when people request.

>>152988092
أثارت؟

>>152988126
Gimballed, I assume.

Yeah, that should work just fine.
You're a bad pilot.

>>152988076
everyone involved gets 3 day bans for posting and sometimes requesting them.

OP has a referral randomizer.

>>152988076
Personally I'd just get one of the Auroras or Mustangs and work from there. But I have a 300i so I can't really tell you how good either of them are except that the Mustang Gamma is fun to race.

STAR-RFFW-VKCR

>>152988214
oh? people spamming their codes I guess is a given.

Maybe paste it on a pastebin and link it then delete the post?

would that be punished too?

>>152988126
Upgraded bulkheads are useless. You just need to git gud.

>>152988389
Fixed.

>>152988470
Oh well, that's new.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3DMKvBYX6U

>you and a bunch of space slavs squatting in an alley when a player walks up on you
>"You came to the wrong neighborhood motherfucker."

>>152988486
Actually people weren't spamming in the traditional sense. Simply posting them is considered spam. I would as I only need one more to get the gimbals weapons, but I'd rather not take the risk. Just use the randomizer in the op

>>152988076
>>152988484
please refrain from spamming our thread. Thankyou.

See >>152962317

>>152987754
who would be the RAF in Star Citizen?

>>152988643
Still.

You should only run away if you're facing something like a Fer-de-lance or a FAS.

>>152988712
>>152988691
>>152988484
>>152988470
>>152988214

Oh sorry I have to admit I didn't read the OP very thoroughly, I guess this shit happens.

I'm sorry I'll just lurk more from now on, as I am now a fellow Citizen, so I can contribute instead of spamming and shitposting out of sheer ignorance.

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>tfw never

>>152988470
Just had an idea, we should have created a randomizer for this thread specifically instead of using reddit

>>152988823
I can't really do anything if I'm against more than one ships though, I could probably take on for example a vulture, but I can't while i have 4150 eagles on my ass, and I can't run away because it's slow as hell.

>>152989151
I'll make it.
and only put my code into it as well as my friends

>>152989019
It's a new thing, didn't see it in the OP until this thread either so there you go.

>>152989147
The engine section still looks way too lego, as do the side turrets. Cockpit and front are top though.

>>152989147
>not space plane
I dont care thn.

>>152989147
it looks like a load of random shit glued together

>>152989287
>my friends
Don't lie Anon.

>>152987723
yes they did you dumb piece of shit

>>152989449
I only have one friend. You caught me.

The friend is also me

Should I keep playing modded Oolite or start playing Elite: Dangerous? I already own the latter

>>152989531
Make the randomizer and we can be your pretend friends

>>152989617

>not modded first encounters

Sad thing is FFE has actually MORE content than ED

>>152989617
I suppose that's an Elite remake?

Does it have pits or is it just like most of those and it doesn't?

Is it good?

So I get that the Aurora has more cargo capacity but the mustang is better for combat right?

>>152989480
No, they didn't.

It was always managed landing on city / populated zones.

Originally we weren't even going to have seamless transitioning.

>>152990068
>was
>originally

nice outdated info dipshit try to keep up

did you miss the gamescom demo where they literally flew their ship into a landing zone and showed them looking at a character inside the building and waved?

https://youtu.be/6RwBFv0eae4?t=17m30s

>>152989954
Apparently the Delta is, but that isn't currently on sale I think.

But really I can only speak for the Gamma because it was free to fly last weekend.

Auroras seem to be relatively decent at fighting too though. If you are the guy who was gonna get the exploration starter pack you could always get the Mustang Alpha Starter and then just upgrade it to a 315p or Freelancer.

Mustang should give you more store credit than the Aurora when upgrading I think.

>>152990394
>17 minutes 30 seconds for the blind and retarded.

>>152990394
>That
>"An entire planet covered in city"

Thats not heavily populated you stupid shitbag

>>152990487
I'm the same guy but as I still don't know how the progression will work in game, I'm pondering about how much of a grind / challenge will be to get to a freelancer compared to spending some buck right now and having it from the get-go.

Basically if I will make the game more fun or boring depending on my starter package.

>>152990615
>While the other planets, even polluted Hurston, retain some indication of their natural origins, ArcCorp is now an entirely constructed world. All of the terrain has been sculpted, zoned and built upon, leaving nothing for nature.

>>152990394
>>152990505
m8, like this

https://youtu.be/6RwBFv0eae4#t=1050

>>152985615
I used to really like making a sharp turn so my engines faced towards the star, caused npcs trying to interdict me to crash into the star when they tried to get behind me. Probably doesn't work now with the AI update.

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will planets in star citizen have biomes or will it back like every space exploration game ever and have just 1 biome per planet?

>>152990720
I honestly don't know, the same question makes me wonder if I should upgrade my 325a or if I should keep it and spend some money on a separate M50/350R when they get available again just for racing.

If you are willing you might as well go for a Freelancer, wouldn't go for all three ships in the pack. Unless you really want that Dragonfly, because I think the only way to get it right now is that starter pack.

>>152990910
>will planets in star citizen have biomes

yes

supposedly they have some of them working already

they will have toolsets with different kinds of plants and rocks etc. etc.

>>152990910
Depends on the planet, but yes. Some planets will have multiple biomes. Becasue every planet is "handmade" with the brush tools, so large swaths of land can be "painted" in short periods of time. And after that the precise artistry of the landing zones, PoI's can begin.

>>152990910
seems like it wouldn't be too hard to just zone areas of the planet for different biome assets

I think some, like microtech, will just be one biome

>>152990910
realistically most planets would be single biome anyway. we are very fortunate to be in the unusual position of having a location that allows for scorched deserts and deep snow on the same planet, at the same time. that said, yes there will be biomes on some planets.

>>152990720
Apparently the pricing on the ships is relative to how much you pay on the sites for them are. This is what Chris Roberts said after the 3.0 interview.

The whole thing is pretty good, would recommend.

https://youtu.be/g4UaUmJ8Ho8

>>152989245
Dump the bulkheads theyre slowing you down.

All these scummy Federation pilots hovering around Morai

>>152991071
Hmm I think I'll go for something cheaper as I'll have the time to upgrade later on.
May be funnier and give a better sense of reward to get the ships with the accomplishment inside the game, not because I have a fat credit card, i think.

>>152991318
>the pricing on the ships is relative to how much you pay on the sites for them are.

what the fuck does that mean?

>>152991318
>that hilariously large pop filter

Germans are weird.

>>152991424
Sorry, my english is pretty bad. I mean, the cheap ships are cheaper, and the expensive ships are expensive?

>>152991424
UEC price scales with USD price?

>>152991424
a $35 LN and a $225 Connie will have a comparable price gap with ingame currency

>>152990832

If you're already tethered you can sometimes whip them into it.

>>152991318
If he keeps the single seaters cheap I'll be as happy as can be.

Although this may be bad news for something like the airliner despite how limited it's use is.

Sounds very much like any old MMO though.

>>152991424
Your choice. Upgrading is always possible as is, especially to something as common as the Lancers or 300is.

>>152962317
Reminder: Ground vehicles add no fun to a game or are relevant in a shooter that plays on a massive scale.

>>152991536
>>152991554
>>152991616
>>152991736


Just seen the video, it seems that compared to the prices in $ there will be greater gaps for the ingame prices, but it won't scale on a realistic way to the point of capital ships costing billions.

It seems they are balancing right now the game progression on how you can earn more money as you improve your ship and can take on more missions.

will all the quests in SC be mo-capped and voice acted? Seems like that would take a lot of time and money

>>152993040
No, just main story quests I think.

>>152993040

The current plan is to build mini mocap stages at most of the studios to record the small bits like mission providers.

Realistically I think that the bulk of missions will be given through bulletin boards like the ArcCorp Jobwell, which will be text only.

>>152989147
Wtf is this abomination?

>>152993040
There was something about that in RTV today. Didn't read it yet though.

http://imperialnews.network/2016/08/reverse-the-verse-episode-2-04-summary/

>need some money
>decide to head to do that PI mission
>hear another ship come in as I'm leaving
>get to the window to get out of the station
>a Constellation is sitting right there, all guns pointed at the window.

Well fuck.

I missed the last free weekend.
Not even trolling is SC a game yet or is it just fly ships around and shoot things?

It's very promising, but I'm waiting to buy until I'm sure it'll turn out good.

>>152993804
There's a few missions available to play, one's actually pretty cool with an audio log story behind it.

They reward you with credits, you can then spend them on weapons, clothes, etc.

There's a new area available, Grim Hex, for the Edgelord pirate in all of us.

It's pretty fun, but it gets repetitive after you're done with the first slew of missions.

Finally went for the Aurora, I think it may be a more versatile ship for a newbie like me.

>>152993804
It is currently just flying ships around and shoot things.

You can shoot things with your ship or weapons you can buy with ingame currency after doing missions or shooting the right people.

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>>152993587
>Show up
>There's a Reliant Kore there
>"I might meet someone inside!"
>Go through there and complete it with all PDAs and the energy shotgun
>It's still outside
>It's lost a wing
>Get in to see what it's like
>It's literally fucked
Regret.

Two questions

Can i still buy a sabre and is it worth it?

>>152994085
Actually sounds nice. I think it may be time for me to buy finally.
I feel like elite had less in its beta when I bought it, so it sounds worth it.

>>152976372
For another $60 you'll be able to a year or two from now.

>just rolled a healing effect on my beam laser
Anybody want to wing up?

>>152994662
Elite is over of my favorite games and I hate the fact that this is the truth.

>>152994416

No and maybe.

If you specifically want to do stealthy shit get the Sabre.

I am personally stuck between the Sabre, Hornet and Buccaneer.

Sabre will most likely be back on sale around October 9th for Citizencon.

>>152994739
I have a laser that recharges shields, do you have one that actually repairs damage?

>>152994921
Hornet btfo sabre all day every day

Has literally twice the firepower

>>152994993
I wish. It doesn't exist, but I've never used it and it's pretty useless for solo PVP besides looking cool. Just wondering if anyone wants to wing up and bounty hunt or something

>>152989860
I played a bit of Frontier but I was a bit confused by the newtonian physics and sorta old interface
It seems like it'd be fun if I got the hang of it, but there isn't that much in the way of content

I've never played FFE though, are there a bunch of mods for it?

>>152989913
I dunno what pits are
It's meh, but it can be modded to high heaven to add a bunch of ships and dockable places that give sidequests, like seedy bars to get assassination missions in anarchy systems and laser jousting competitions in feudal systems

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fuhdeluty

Should I wait for the Reliant Kore to go back on sale or just say fuck it and get an Aurora LN?

>>152995509
Cockpits. Bit not by the looks of things.

>laser jousting
How?

So I have a game package with no LTI, is there any way I can melt it and buy something with LTI and keep the backer rewards?

Woo, I'm at 100% with the Empire.

How do I actually rank up?

>>152995948
No, there are no game packages with LTI that are being sold, nor will they ever likely be sold.

are there any cosmetic clothings to buy in crusader that arent spacesuits? like that bomber jacket/leather one we saw a long time ago in the hangar

>>152996108
Stupid question, how do I place my ship on the hangar?

>>152996108
Refresh the mission board and look for special missions about the Imperial yada yada or whatever. The reward should read your next rank.

>>152982573
>Giant fixed mount for Hornet and Cutlass.
>Still no small fixed mount for Mustangs.
>Still no Omnisky 9s.

Whales only I guess.

>>152995948
Your only option until monday is to buy an Argo and then upgrade it to a ship you want with LTI.

>>152996164
There's a clothing shop like that from Arc Corp.

>>152996159
I just found the pledge buyback page, and it says I can buy 1 thing back...

Hmm.... really makes me think. What do?

>>152996250
Uh, ask for docking permissions?

>>152996256
Any mission board?
Alright, thanks.

>>152996159
The exploration package i bought last week had lti on terrapin, carrack an d dragonfly

>>152996108
>>152996256
This.

But to get it to show up you might need to go a bit into the next rank. Usually they don't pop up for me until 5% or so into next.

>>152995948
How much is the package worth because there is way to change that. I would just hope that it is an Aurora or Mustang package and buy the ship you really want by CCUing an Argo.

>>152996250
Walk along the middle and look at the ground until you see a blue dot.

Click on it and add the ship via the interface thing.

>>152996370
A mission board that has an allied empire faction on it.

>>152996402
The $600 pack?

Yeah, looks like it did.

Though I don't think thats a realistic option for many of us.

Another stupid question, which .cfg file do I have to edit to enable borderless fullscreen?

I have the Caterpillar+2xDragonfly LTI package (no game), and the Gladius 6 month with game package.

I kind of want another ship but I just don't know what :( I probably shouldn't spend any more money either. I kinda dont like having the Gladius with 6 months, feels like a black spot, but I need to in order to actually have a game package.

Only thing I could consider CCUing to is maybe a Sabre though that's not actually for sale right now. All around feels badman

>>152986513
>Load up games for first time in months.
>Take forever figuring out controls on the gamepad since I don't want to bother plugging in joystick.
>Get everything figured out and spin around looking for Q jump beacon.
>Lightly tap hornet that came up behind me and explode into a fireball.