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Barnes and Noble edition

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://tempostorm.com
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.hearthstonetopdeck.com/
https://manacrystals.com/
http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/category/analysis/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

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FUCK I was just making a thread with this OP image.
Fuck you.
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HAHAHAHAHA
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Would you rather fuck Liadrin, Valeera or Jaina?
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I've been playing zoo dragon pally and it just feels mediocre honestly, like I'm just playing an arena deck
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>>152958016

What the FUCK I though his left foot was his dik/balls/butthole and his tail was his leg.
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>>152958168
>zoo dragon pally
You mean menagerie deck with zoobot? What else did you expect from memes?
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>>152958156
Jaina, ever since W3
>>152958087
though luck hun
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>>152958168

Stop playing shitty decks then?
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I sure love playing against nothing but stacked midrange hunters at rank 20
so how's that gold grinding going?
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1st for pain and suffering
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You thought it was over?
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144 packs. Listing any legendary cards I get. Here we go.
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>>152958495
And now, the anon who made these, swap those to Warden and Tiger
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>>152958495
Is Beast Druid really that good?
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>>152958602
Good enough to bring back taunts.
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>>152958519
I seriously hope you didn't spend any real money on those.
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>>152958425
The face is the place
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>turn 3 injured
>turn 4 res injured res injured
>turn 5 onyx injured

God this feels good to nut draw.
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>>152958660
Are you poor?
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>turn 3 injured
>turn 4 res injured res injured
>turn 5 onyx injured

God this feels like cancer, I hope Priest gets nerfed.
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>>152958756

There is a difference between not having money and understanding a bad investment.
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>>152958737
>>152958778
>Implying this isn't the nut draw
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>>152958660
Are amazon coins real money?
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>>152958602
Depends which build.
The aggro version that just runs a shitload of beasts and double warden steamrolls everything that can't clear your board efficiently or race you, but is helpless in other cases.

The ramp version that plays more cycle and teachers is slower, but can actually come back from a board clear into a big taunt.

Both die to aggro shaman.
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> Played YoggnLoad
> vs fucking aggro shammy.
> traps stall for a while.
> low hp, play Yogg
> gives my minions blessings galore, all four damage spells hit his stuff.
> Well Played.

Aggro shits taste justice
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>>152958837

>wild
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>when you embrace the RNG and it embraces you back
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>>152958907
More like old screenshot.
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>>152958834
Why is it a bad investment?

I'm having fun.
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>>152958837
>Lightbomb
DELETE THIS
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>>152958907
Its an old screenshot
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Fuck yeah man

First time hitting rank 5, was having some bad matchups with my midrange Hunter but I decided to go with Zoolock and it allowed me to get 4 win streaks (with losses in between) from rank 10 to 5.

Sorry for the blogpost, but I had to express my happiness somewhere.
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>>152958941

>tfw you can now only imagine what i t would be like to lightbomb a druids stealthed board now
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>>152959047

Congrats! Now hit legend! Still plenty of time!
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>>152958593
More like Raven and Mark, because lmao turn 1 4/4
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>>152958912
Anything that bootyblast pirate warriors are ok in my book
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>tfw you will never blow a load all over zeriyahs smug face
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Do you guys ladder with one deck a month or do you switch between them a lot
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>>152958778
>Used to play resurrect priest back in the days for lulz value
>Even brought it to /hsg/ tournament
>It's a viable deck now
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>>152959209
Looks like Chie. I bet shes equally annoying.
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>>152958863
>Coming from King of Aggro
>Le famous turn 7 lethal just got delayed to turn 8
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>>152959112
>Try to add him
>HS crashes
>even restarting doesn't help

Thanks Blizzard
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>>152959047
I was struggling to get past 10 with zoo. Too much control decks and not enough hunter to bully.

I switched to Bogchamp and got lucky aganst final match to get to 10 verses an arcane giant combo warrior. Control shaman feels really strong Killing combo decks like rez priest and murloc paladin and c'thun feelsngood
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>>152959047
I climbed with c'thun warrior, tempo mage and barnes hunter

All of them are decks that this thread hates for no reason 2bh
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>>152958087
I'm glad OP was faster than you.
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>>152959328
>Too much control decks and not enough hunter to bully.
Are you living in bizarro world
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>>152958016
>It was at this point, where I could have just taken a BoK and had lethal but took the 3rd fucking Yogg IN A ROW instead, that I realized this is my favorite brawl of all time.
>still got (exact) lethal from hellfire
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>>152959487

What any one person faces is rarely indicative of what the ladder is as a whole.
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>>152958016

Okay so I recognize misha/huffer/leokk and highmane behind barnes, but who is the simba look-alike he's holding up supposed to be?
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>>152959047
Congrats, you reach rank 5 with two of the most brainless decks in the game. Next season you can try with a real deck. Good luck.
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>Netherspite Historian
>Bookwyrm
>Nightbane Templar
Will Dragon Paladin be good?

>>152959606
The 1/1 Highmane that Barnes always summons
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>>152959606
1/1 copy of highmane summoned by Barnes?
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>>152959606
a 1/1 highmane
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>>152959606

The 1/1 highmane nigger THINK
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>>152959606
1/1 copy of highmane, only it's a cub because it's 1/1
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>>152959328
>not enough hunter to bully

idk man, they always get unleash right when they need it against me, it's fucking bullshit. It's a bad matchup for me but only because for some reason they always fucking have that shit when they need it and then they drop a highmane and I can't recover 'cause I lost all of my shit.
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>>152959625
Maybe, just don't cling to Dragon Consorts. It has been a Timmy trap so far.
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>>152959625
No, those cards are all shit
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>>152959613
zoo is pretty hard
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>>152959625
>>152959658
>>152959667
>>152959668
>>152959686
>only it's a cub because it's 1/1

Ah, neat, I get it now. Clever. Thanks anons.
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>Be Elise warrior against Priest
>He plays Barnes, summons copy Rag, hits face
>plays Onyx Bishop, revives the rag, hits face
>ditto
>plays resurrect, revives rag, hits face
>ditto
>plays actual Rag, hits face
>I play elise, he gets map with shifting shade
>get golden monkey with 10 cards left in deck, have to wait till I get Justicar before I play it
>It's literally my last card
>play golden monkey, bait out both his entombs, play Anub'arak
>At this point I'm starting to turn the game around, Anub'arak will just completely give me value to victory
>he plays Golden monkey, next turn he plays Yogg
>Yogg entombs my Anub'arak, gives him 1 mage secret, 2 pally secrets, 2 hunter secrets (also played spellbinder which failed cause he was full of secrets), blessing of kings Yogg then gives him charge, giving me no hope for victory

I never even got mad that game, I got fucked over by so much rng I think I reached a zen state of anger.
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>>152959767
haha

yeah

sure
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>>152959851
whats hard then?
shit decks?
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>>152959824
>I never even got mad that game, I got fucked over by so much rng I think I reached a zen state of anger.

I remember getting that last time I tried to play Hearthstone seriously and get legend. Its a quiet, calm place, but oddly unfulfilling. Like an aged, settled depression. Like walking to the hangman's noose after a life well lived. No purpose, just letting events unfold, because you can't be arsed.
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>maybe this shredder will drop a doomsayer and save me
>it's a shielded minibot
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>Its another priest match
I think im just starting to concede against priests from now on
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>start turn 3
>opponent has minions with a combined statline of 9/13
Why exactly is this allowed?
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>>152960140
>>152960016
gitgud and shutup, christ
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>>152960231
T. faggot priest
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>>152960140
prep, prep, twisting nether
or alternatively innervate innervate chogall doom
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>>152960016
>priest
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>>152959918
everything is hard to play compared to zoo

'm-muh positioning!'

sorry, but zoo is brainless
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>>152960310
Yeah sure whatever
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>>152960267
no I'm simply tired of the "omg nerf this" attitude of babyfirstcardgame players around here
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>>152960298
>Old records mattering
Come on son
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>>152960310
>play zoo
>didn't pay attention and misplaced a few minions
>oh well
>Leeroy + PO + PO + Soulfire

Unpacking Leeroy was the best decision I have ever made.
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>>152960383
Those are from last 2 weeks
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>>152960310
this
>hmm do i throw up all these minions or ritual? lol who cares let's go face and win with 3 power overwhelmings haha
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>>152960509
Sure anon, sure they are.
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>>152960434
>tfw poorfag budget zoo
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I wish I could choose to get classic packs from arena
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>>152960556
No you are right, I must be lying because priest is so OP it's literally impossible to win
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>tfw really like Anub'Arak and how he works but he's slower than dirt
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>play freeze mage
>kill priest
wow nice buff
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>>152960752
>Play freeze mage
>Every game is boring as fuck
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>>152960739
just run a journey below and never lose to a control warrior again

doesnt even matter how you play you'll just win
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>>152959137
Not sure if I can handle the grind with 5 days left, maybe next month.

>>152959328
I started recording those stats yesterday on the deck tracker.

I faced a decent amount of hunters in the last 4 days (when I started climbing from rank 10).
For me it was the other way around, I was struggling with Hunter because I faced some warlocks and I kept getting MEME'd by the Ressurect Priest.

Against Warriors, the matches that I lost as Zoo he had just 1 or 2 cards in hand at the end, with my hunter I would either destroy the warrior or he would make me run out of steam and win the game with 4+ cards in hand. I found zoo to be more consistent at the moment.

>>152959392
There are reasons to hate every class, so that's fine :^)
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>>152960815
I play it since it exist. The amount of gold/dust I can save because I barely need any new cards, its insane.
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>>152960878
But what do you even need the dust for when you only play resident sleeper mage?
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is wow any good?
i've never played or seen any warcraft product besides hearthstone but the characters and lore are making me interested in playing the other games
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>tfw can only have fun 5 days a week since i have no cards and only in taverns can i actually play all classes

and arena is so slow to build a deck, i'm averaging 5-6 wins per run but it's still slow as fuck
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>>152960815
>freeze mage
>most planning and decision making of all decks
>boring
nigga
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>people roping when they have lethal
>little do they know I'm tabbed out not even watching the game

lmfao
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>>152960928
I'm a big B/U/W player so its just great for me. And I use all the extra for fun decks when I'm done laddering.
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>>152961031
DEVILISH
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>>152960969
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>>152960969
No, it's absolute dogshit. I played it just to get Liadrin and I really wish I didn't.
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>>152961031
THROW AWAY THE KEY
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>say well played
>they played poorly
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>>152961101
>not playing endgame WoW
>"it must be shit"
Gee I wonder why
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>play constructed
>draw dead cards every time
>opponents have perfect responses when things go decently
>1 step forward 2 steps back in rank
>always lose one step away from rank 5
>go arena
>draft nothing but awful aggro decks, the few times things start to go well I'm playing against paladins with well timed enter the fucking coliseums (seriously what are the odds of running into 3 enter the coliseums over 8 games?) and other bullshit
>never drew any of the three saps when I needed them, get it in my mulligan the next game

Starting to remember why I quit playing this game, streaks of bad RNG are just crushing.
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>>152960570
Just work with Doomguard if you are on a budget, I don't have Leeroy too.
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Why isn't it giving me the option to spectate this guy?
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>>152961242
Maybe he doesn't have it enabled
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>>152961242
He might have the option disabled

>>152961239
Doom guard doesn't work as well as a face card though since it'll discard your POs and soulfires
Doom guard is really more of a control zoo card
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>>152961230
No, the mechanics themselves are shit. Besides
>it gets good after you play hours and hours of shit trust me
yeah totally
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>>152961230

>actually arguing for warlords of fucking draenor "endgame"
>literally the worst WoW has ever been

You're the reason the game fucking sucks.
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>>152960752
Do you mind sharing your dick list?
I don't play mage in months
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>>152961242

>can have any name you want not being hindered by duplicates
>called yourself xXslayr101Xx

jesus fucking christ
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Can you still get the Hots cardback?
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>>152961230

raiding is for nerds and pvp is unbalanced shit
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>>152961443
I'm 90% sure he added me after I beat him to flame me but then forgot to do so

now I just keep him there for play a friend quests like 90% of my friendslist
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>>152960752

>play priest
>freeze mage can't deal with priest of the feast healing and all his burn is wasted

:^)
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>>152961445
fucking retard
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>>152961537
Shit freeze mage player then, you have to OTK priest
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>>152961562
Thanks
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>Been Memeing it up and having fun since Karazhan came out.
>Time to grind 3 ranks to Rank 5.
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>>152961378
>You're the reason the game fucking sucks.
Nigga I only played vanilla+BC

>>152961347
>it gets good after you play hours and hours of shit trust me
>yeah totally
Everyone and their mother get a max level char when the get the game anyways so this is not an argument.
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>Didn't pre-order TGT.
>Don't have the card back.

Why live
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>>152961537
Are you retarded...

>>152961590
This
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>>152961917
>Not using the Black Temple one
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>>152961917
>Unironically upset he didn't preorder The Grand Dusting
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>Start the game
>Warrior
>Axe
>concede
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got any ideas for this reno druid?
i need more early game for sure
inb4 ''lol ur shit for not playing aggro shaman :D haha''
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wtf I love evolve shaman now
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I Said Well Played so You can fucking concede already you fucking shitty aggro shaman stop using all your burn to stall you fucking retard you have no cards to topdeck you can't win
Was it a bot?
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>>152962052
No, you are shit for playing an inherently control card in a class whose biggest problems are lack of removal and card draw, both being the two most important things for control
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Does arena have MMR or something?

Like, if I win a lot of arena will it progressively pit me against better arena players so it evens out a bit?
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>>152962221
b-b-but it has curator and nourish and drake and uh raven idol and wrath maybe
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>>152962320
arena's "MMR" is matching you against decks with similar wins/losses.
So if you are at 11 wins it'll try to match you with other 11s.
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>>152961445
Expand the "Obtainable" section, the card back is still available

http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Card_back#Obtainable
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>>152962392
Yeah, what I meant is if it's persistent or the mmr resets on each run.
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>>152962320
Arena matches to current arena win number.

You will usually be against players with an identical win record for the current arena. so if you're at 1 win 0 losses you will be against a player with 1 win and 0 losses. When you get to 11-0 or something rare like that you may well be matched against 11-1 record players or 10-0 players though since there won't be many 11-0s around.
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>>152962504
New each run.

It would be really fucking stupid otherwise. EVERYONE would be locked to a 3 wins average. You make gold in arena by picking on shittier players for the most part., if you were matched against same-ability players every time you'd be fucked.
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>tfw I haven't been offered Muster or Minibot in my last 10 pally arenas
And whenever I go against another Paladin they always have Minibot into Muster.
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>>152962538
It doesn't bother to match you very well.

I've had a match against a 7 win player when I was at 11 wins myself, and this was at pretty much prime time.
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>oh hey, this heroic stuff ain't even that bad
>let's try LoE, too
>stuck at Skelesaurus Hex for six fucking hours now
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What's a good deck I can craft with 4000 or so dust?

The non-adventure leggos I have are Dragonlord, N'zoth, Jaraxxus, Tirion, Captain Greenskin and Gruul
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>>152963435
Midrange Hunter
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>>152963435

Zoo.

Dust Gruul. Keep Greenskin because he might be a meme one day. Gruul is unplayable.
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>>152963512
>>152963435
I used to think Gruul was a TGT legendary because I've almost never seen him played. I was surprised that piece of shit was a classic legendary
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>>152960310
It's funny because most other popular dicks don't even care about positioning and summon the only minion they can at the turn.
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>Playing meme decks in Wild and enjoying myself
>Piloted Sky Golem drops a Piloted Shredder which drops a Doomsayer that clears the enemies board and wins me the game
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>>152963693
It's funny because the zoo player that made it to prelims traded before playing sea giant but won anyway because leeroy + PO
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>>152961740
>Got my rank 5 for the month
>Memeing with Dragon Paladin now
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>>152963914
So he outplayed the enemy so hard that even such misplays weren't enough for the enemy to catch up?
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>>152963959
Post cute girl deck
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Zoo beats hunter, hunter beats literally everything else, everything that isn't hunter beats zoo.

I don't wanna play hunter. What do?
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>>152964145
Aggro Shaman beats hunter pretty bad. Still generally the best deck around
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>>152964095
Nightbane Templar is Uther's new waifu
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Anyone messed around with beast dragon druid yet?
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>>152964329
I want to prep Uther and watch as he fucks Templar
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA MYTHS TO COMMUNICATE TO YOUR COMRADES AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>152964329
>argent protector and silvermoon portal
I don't know...
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>>152963352
One Night in Development is the easiest heroics stuff so far. Most of League's is pretty easy with the exception of the Fagasaurus.

I don't know what it is about him, but he always seems to find the right card at the right time despite how small the chances are.

Have you beaten Naxx and BRM too, or did you start with ONiD and LoE?
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>>152964415
Alextraza is fucking crying right now
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>>152961917
>>152961980
>TFW HAVE A CARDBACK FOR EVERY CLASS
POOR
F
A
G
S
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Rate my rare meme
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Should I grind 4 more wings of blackrock with gold to play this or am I fucking retarded? And waste some dust too, but I don't really care about any other new shit.
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>>152964624
>H-hey guys! I have more than n-nine card backs! Look at me!
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Rate my rare meme now
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>>152964624
>being so autistic that he has to change the cardback everytime he picks a deck

dude
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>>152964761
>wanting to spend any time or money on this
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>>152964814
Even without a battlecry, >477 is a lot better than >446
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>>152964845
Not him but you can set Alternate Heroes and cardbacks to specific decks.

...Or were you merely pretending?
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>there are people ITT who spend more time choosing cardbacks than their clothes
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>>152965001
I guess I didn't bother at all
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>>152965004

Jokes on you I spend hours picking clothes while a mere 30 minutes picking a cardback.
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Holy fuck deathwing is so underrated. He just pulled a shamans dick out of my mouth and proceeded to beat the guy across the face with it.
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>Switch deck.
>Matchmaking wheel takes forever to pick an opponent.
>It's my counter.

Hahahhahahah
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I don't even know if secret hunter is good but jesus christ it's annoying to play against
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>>152965532
>Playing against Hunter
>He plays free secrets :^) dude
>Passes without playing any secrets
>Can't clear it, hero power pass
>He plays Lock and Load and suddenly has 5 secrets
Fuck this game.
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Only real question I have on cardbacks is whether to use the legend cardback (looks like shit and makes you look insecure so probably not, even though I guess it might intimidate some people), pirates cardback (looks amazing, oldest cardback I have), or heroic LoE cardback (also looks amazing, much more recent cardback but it's something I had to actually earn instead of it just being given to me).

Thoughts, /hsg/?
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ello where is the meme :DDD
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>>152965212
>>152965004
jokes on you I just wear jeans and polo shirts (each day I just wear a random polo shirt I haven't worn already that week) and only ever use the legend card back so I spend essentially zero time on both pursuits.
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>>152965001
Wait, is this real?
How do I do that?
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Looking for someone to trade Play a friend! quest with (160g each), online atm. EU: BestMageEU#2304
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>>152965962
>and makes you look insecure so probably not,
you know I used to think that way but in legend there's an astonishing number of people who use the cardback even though they clearly have nothing to prove
it's just a blandly utilitarian back that communicates a clear fact

I'd suggest you go with pirate imo, anyone who beat skelesaurus hex is a special kind of weirdo and idk if you want to be leaking information like that
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>no yogg
>every spell-based deck I make is going to be subpar and lacking in memes

Feels bad man
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>"My plans are falling into place" Voiceacting
>New Gay Medivh voiceacting
What the fuck happened to this game?
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>>152964329
kiblers list, are you having any sucess? whats a good sub for rag lightlord and twilight guardian?
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Why can't I get better than rank 15? I keep getting destroyed by better decks and it is tilting me so much
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>when someone spectates you for the pack quest but you can't win a single game
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>>152966315

You just had to get lucky iirc, also LoE is the best looking heroic card back of all time. Karazhan just looks fabulously gay and Naxx looks like someone blew a loogie on a dead guy or some shit. BRM is just kinda meh, it's bland and unexciting, the purple and grey really don't go well together (the pre-order cardback for it though is still top tier though, the molten one, even if people think you're a faggot for pre-ordering).

But yeah I like the Pirates one too, mostly because it shows how long I've been playing the game for and it looks so damn sexy. It has so many little nuances from the turning wheel to the water effects to the flag waving in the background to the wood and gold trim, plus I've known for a long time now there's at least one /hsg/ regular anon who absolutely loves pirates despite how shit they are and yet just barely missed out on the card back.

Wow... can't believe next month will be my 2nd anniversary of playing HS...
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>>152966582
It's alright certainly viable. I dropped back to rank 6 but I'm holding steady there.

No replacement for Twilight Guardians. You could run a Nefarian or Ysera instead of Ragnaros as your big guy. Lightlord doesn't really have a replacement but you could try Ivory Knights in the deck. Dragon Paladin feels a lot like the older Midrange Paladin deck where you're as late game oriented as midrange gets
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>>152967140
>>152966315

Actually iirc you beat heroic skele by abusing a bug with KT and a taunt which caused them to never attack into it and you could just win. Not sure if the bug still exists but it's a really easy way to beat him. Like KT + target dummy for example.
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>playing Evolve Shamon
>t3 Brann into t4 Pantry Spider into Evolve
>t5 Bloodlust and deal 28 dmg

>you win this one
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Menagerie paladin is kind of fun until you get a garbage draw and get destroyed. I think I will stay with aggro-control lock.
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>>152967059
well you said it yourself, your deck is bad and you keep tilting ...
honestly what most people need to do is stop seeing their losses and start seeing their winrates. a 70-30 matchup is quite a good one, if you're 70-30 against rexxar in hunter meta you're pretty set in terms of ranking, but that still means almost 1 in 3 games will involve you getting highmaned to death or something bullshit like that. It doesn't mean you did anything wrong during the game or at the deck selection screen. Just keep playing and your true winrate will reassert itself.
and ofc it doesn't matter how much of a garbage pile your deck is if it counters the field well, cf. midrange patron
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>>152967536
>brann survived a turn

How's shitter rank treating ya?
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looking at the meta right now makes it seem insane that blade flurry was butchered

how can blizzard claim to understand this game

yeah yeah t. valeera im just tired of losing to thrall
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>>152966457
token druid without yogg isn't really subpar but definitely lacking in memes
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Fuck I was on fire yesterday and won 10 games in a row, now I can't seem to get a single win and I've lost an entire rank

I just want to hit legend for once
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>>152967768
>waah waah why can't I burst people down from 30 to 0
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>>152967768
Good, Rogue should be unplayable forever after 6 months of LOL MIRACLE WINS
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>>152967059
>>152967575
People who are stuck at low ranks don't play the game enough, so each loss and victory means more to them and tilt happens.

Play more frquently and if you're good, your win rate will even out. If you maintain a 60% win rate for example, that's plenty to rank up with. Still means you lose 4 out of 10 games though
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>>152967631
He had to deal with Trogg and Golem.
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>>15296757
>>152967874

I should be doing a lot better than this
I keep losing constantly and I don't think I am playing well enough, I just lost to a person who OTK'd me as a fucking mage

It's fucking bad dude, and i'm pissed off at this
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>when you are about to concede and you just topdeck the shit out of him
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>>152967947
>65% win rate
That's my usual winrate getting to rank 5 famalam (though it's naturally higher at low ranks and falls at higher ones). You have unrealistic expectations if you're expecting to win like 70-80% of your games outside the shitter ranks
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>>152967947
65% winrate is bad dude. If you are getting those winrates in shitter ranks, I have news for you. You won't improve. You might need to find a more casual game because you clearly don't have the brain process to play this game.
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>>152967947
If you are playing a deck like that yet can't get above 15 you might just be retarded

I have played in those shitty ranks and everyone under like rank 10 uses basic cards only
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>>152967807
play wild
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>>152967947
>playing secret hunter
found the problem

good decks... don't "play themselves" necessarily but the elegance of their construction is enough to suggest optimal play just by looking at what your draws are over the course of games. No elegant list of secret hunter exists yet. Lifecoach or someone else might develop one but it's still a mess right now. If you get tilted by losing to random crap play an established netdeck with established lines of play; can't really get around that
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>>152968449
>I have played in those shitty ranks and everyone under like rank 10 uses basic cards only
lolwut?

There are plenty of people with netdecks all the way up and down the ladder. It doesn't take any skill or brainpower to copy a deck off the internet.
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>>152968449
2014 called
You'll find net decks at rank 20 at the end of the month now
EU at least
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>>152968449
>I have played in those shitty ranks and everyone under like rank 10 uses basic cards only
When was the last time you played hearthshtone? Netdecks start at rank 25
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Did EU died?
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>>152968694
>>152968759
>>152968813

That's weird considering I got rank 12 on a fresh account with only 5 packs opened and everyone was a mongoloid using shitty decks with basics only

everyone down there is braindead and so is that retard crying about being ranked 15
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>>152964543
Haven't beaten Naxx and BRM. Playing f2p, so when Naxx came out doing Heroics was pretty much impossible with my limited cardpool. And I've never gotten all of BRM. Right now I'm getting my shit kicked in by Rafaam 2 and I'm not quite sure what to do. Looked it up on the internet which recommends Tempo Mage, but Mage and Rogue are the two classes I still have little more than the basic deck of.
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Is it too late to get into Hearthstone?
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>>152968925
no but youll have to pay if you want to get into it quickly
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>battle.net eu is fucking shit up again

God dammit Blizzard. I was just on my winning strike.
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>>152968840
>why would someone do that
>go on the internet and tell lies
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>>152968449
I play against netdecks from the beginning to the end of each season. Where are these basic decks and how do I queue into them?
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>>152968925
Not if you're filthy rich
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Did anyone manage to make zoobot/menagerie magician work?
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>>152968965
>>152969037
that's sad
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>>152969001
What reason would I lie about being in shitty ranks

They are literally retarded and can't play for shit
I'm surprised they can even pick up a goddamn mouse without hurting themselves
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>>152969004
Hearthstone has 500 million players and it's growing every year!
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>>152968449
>Basic decks at Rank 10?
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>>152969060
Strifeco made a paladin deck, it needs some minor tweaking but it comes out overall positive win rate. I'm a rank 5 shitter though
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>>152966217
When you go to pick a cardback or hero, your decks should pop up on the right hand side. Just click on one and it should look something like pic related. You can set both backs and heroes like this.
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I wanna do so badly a Paladin deck should i buy some new expa packs? and whats the more viable deck to make it
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>>152969126
>counting Chinese players
sasuga blizzard
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Why does mage have the most fun cards?
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>>152958016
>Do brawl for quests because I'm a f2p new player and fuck grinding normals
>opponent takes a million years to pick
>gets 3 cannons, and 2 more pirates in their rando's
>I get vanilla 2/2s and 9 cost minions
This brawl is cancer.
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>>152969246
Just another pic to show the setting.
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>>152969150
Basic decks are below rank 10, I never said at rank 10

I got to rank 12 with basic cards only, and I NEVER queued into anyone with anything except basic only decks
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>>152968840
>>152968925
it's not too late; all the account farmers quit because dead game xD which means early ladder and making ranked progress is more new player viable than it's been for a long long time
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>>152968449
>Basic decks under rank 10
I haven't seen a basic deck since the last time I skipped a season and ended up at rank 22 or whatever the fuck rank you start at.
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Wake me up when control mage becomes viable
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>>152969324
They did the same with WoW, people fell for the "12 million players" meme and all the chinese ditched after pandas
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>>152969649
Freeze mage?
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>>152969649
Next week maybe
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THERE TO THINK ABOUT
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>>152970108
why ru still at rank 18
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>>152970108
>rank 18
>with that netdeck
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>>152970108
Well you've done it now.
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>>152970156
>>152970207


Went on vacation, trying to rush this in 5 days.
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N'Zoo'th Warlock is fun as balls.

N'zoth works so fucking well in Zoo. Holy shit.
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>>152970108
>Implying people at Rank 18 think
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who has the best entrance and why is it varian?
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>>152970156
Ranks are on discount close to the expiration date desu
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>>152970343

>not king kush
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>>152970343
I liked kel'thuzad's
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>>152970343
I really like soggoths animation too bad he's not on the priority list to craft
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eldrich horror is sleeper OP
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>>152970343
Bolvar.
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BRAVO BLIZZARD
R
A
V
O
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>>152970343
THE TRUE HORDE CANNOT BE STOPPED
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WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINDS
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>>152971021
At Rank 20?
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>>152971025
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Golden Priest with perfect hands full of removal pushing my shit in.

Pls kill me.
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>>152969246
>he unironically uses the BRM heroic card back
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>>152970343
WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINDS

Rend Blackhand
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>>152971025
Just discover Humility into Enter the Coliseum from your 2 Ivory Knights senpai
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>play evolve shaman because hsg
>try a few games in casual
>deck looks good even with somewhat bad draws
>enter ranked
>play 6 games in a row that last over 10 turns and I don't draw a single evolve or master of evolution and no minions to play during the first 2 turns

Blizzard could at least try and hide the rigged rng in their game.
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Massan is back, and currently has 5,000+ viewers. Is he already using his old tricks?
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>>152971025
Happened to me too but I was playing secret hunter and dumb heroic AI bounced Mal'fucking'ganis back to his hand.
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why is druid tier 1? they never really seem scary to fight

is it just because they can pop the fuck off with fandral and innervate?
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>>152971601
Well People do actually watch people who bot and Your favourite streamer bots although no one calls them out on it
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>Discard lock is shit
>New dragon,murlock, beast lock is shit
Why does blizzard even bother?
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Any tips for Heroic Curator?
I've done the other 2 on my first try but I can't really be bothered thinking up what would be good against him.
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>>152971760
savage roar cheese and innervate, everything else is mediocre
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>>152971865
malchezaar's imp is coming out next

i still feel like that won't even be great because when im playing discardlock i just want my hand to be empty so i can be a bit more selective with discards
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>>152971865
Because people buy it
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>>152970108

Is questing adventure actually... good, now?
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>>152971865
STORIES!!!!!
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>>152971810
My favourite streamer has less than 10 viewers nowadays.

Still botting?
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>>152971865
>Zoo is one of the most played archtypes because, among few other things, it's the most reliable one
>Blizzard adds completely unreliable cards to warlock in hope to make a bigger variate of decks

It's like they don't understand why people play some decks.
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>Outplaying the shit out of someone, playing around all his spells
>Drops yogg
>Fucking destroys my board while buffing the shit out of him and giving TWO (2) Call of the skils.
>Instantly lose right there
>Fucker starts taunting

I thoroughly, THOROUGHLY hate that card.
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>King Krush
>9 mana
>8/8 charge
>CotW
>8 mana
>5/2 charge, 5/4 taunt, 2/4 buff all other beasts

Explain this to me
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>>152971996
Firememe's been spamming that deck for a while, I think he swapped now though
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>when the burgle works just right...
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>>152971996

It's ok
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>>152971535
>Evolve Shaman
>Lose 6 games in a row
That's what happens when your deck revolves around a win more mechanic.
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>>152972089
Leokk buffs everyone, not only beasts
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>take a screenshot
>completely whiff on the capture and it shows nothing regarding the one thing that happened
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>>152971912

mediocre is not really the right word

Druid is a jack of all trades class by design
its centered around versatility which means it never matches up super favorably but never super poorly either
in this sense Druid is probably the most balanced class in the game which is a valuable thing in its own way in this type of game
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>>152972229
But it doesn't.
It revolves around a few summoning cards that give excellent value when evolved.
Pantry Spider + Evolve can be two 4 mana minions on turn 3 with coin, or turn 4 without it.
It can be a 5 mana and a 3 mana minion on turn 4 or 5.
A 4 and 2 mana minion on 3 or 4.
Thanks to the Nerubian and something from below, you can easily get 7 mana minion for 1 mana.

And even without evolve and master of evolution, it's still a decent deck that can keep you alive for quite a few turns until you draw them.

And no matter what your deck is, if you don't draw anything you can play for the first few turns and don't get your win condition, you've probably lost.
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>getting bored of the game
>ladder with shit decks
>none of the decks I come up with are fun anymore

what kinda bullshit do you guys play. just reached rank 10 with combo priest
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>>152972601

N'Zoth paladin is my fav deck to play even though it's not quite tier 1.
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>Oh man, cant wait for all the new decks today!
>Everyone is still playing the same mindless decks
Every fucking week
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>>152972601
Aggro divine paladin is my current fun deck. If you get on a decent roll you can actually see the moment the opponent goes into full damage control and by then its too late.
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>>152972057
Don't hate Yogg.

Praise Yogg.
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>>152972451
by jack of all trades you mean create a ton of tokens use your broken ass "lol +3 to everything for everybody spells" and go face?

then yeah they're very versatile when it comes to that
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>>152958156
Jaina
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>>152972687
Nothing is going to change until next year, even then I have doubts because people will bitch to high heaven about 50% of all decent cards get retired.

I forsee them baking in most core cards out into standard so we'll still have to deal with most cookie cutter decks. The only classes who I think will get gutted by the shift is Warrior because all the bitching.
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>>152972601
N'Zoo'th Warlock.
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>>152972896
>Everything about this
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>>152958156
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>>152958156
Always waifu.
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Menagerie decks suck dick I guess, huh?
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rank 13 f2p
thoughts?
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>>152973069
You must be on the american server to be able to win with that
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>>152972896
It's a good card but it doesn't ALL minions.
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>>152973069
pretty good probably needs less shit secrets
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>>152973176
>american server
There isn't one
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>>152973069
isnt kkona cold kinda bad
summoning stone is a very big meme

everything else looks alright, maybe drop ice barrier
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>>152972601

I've been able to get to rank 7 with this, though admittedly it's taken some time. Main problem is that it's not autopilot, you have to think during many turns about how to most effectively use your shit. Can't wait for ethereal peddler.
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any new amazon promos?
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>>152972601
got to rank 5 with evolve shaman today and it's actually pretty fun
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>>152973408
Any good replacements for Swashburglar, Skulker and Cairne?
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>>152973453
There will never be a promotion like that again because there are russians who make a million accounts. Stop asking.
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>>152973524
dragon warrior
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>>152972601
Reno N'Zoth Mage. Pulling Rhonin from Barnes is some shit, let me tell you.
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>>152973524

Swashburglar is pretty important, but probably azure drake and fan of knives for the others. Take out a burgle for 2 fans and 2 drakes.
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>>152973402
>>152973325

anything specific?
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>>152972451
>Innervate Balanced
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>>152973795
why no doomsayer
or cabalist tome
or whatever other generally run good stuff mage cards
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>>152973978
I forgot those exist
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>>152973953

innervate is balanced just fine because other classes get way more bullshit spells overall than Druid
Druid needs innervate to keep up with it all honestly
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>>152972557
>It revolves around a few summoning cards that give excellent value when evolved.
That's my point. You have to have a board For evolve to be good. If the opponent isn't clearing your board, he's already losing the game, hence win more.
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>>152973069
cut out mana wyrm, missiles, con of cold, summoning stone, spellslinger sucks too in my experience
run doomsayer, blizzard, forbidden flame, possibly babbling book, cabalyst tome

I'm not sure about alex either since you'll probably end up using your spells to clear

thalnos is also good if you have him
brann is a neutral 2/4 that sometimes is gonna give you some value with another card but it's not really that strong I think


also how the heck did you forget your iceblock senpai
>>
>sadpepe.png
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>>152974532
Make a sick zoodeck
And then draw the few midrangey/lategame cards you drafted in your opening hand as well as the first few turns
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>>152974508
I don't own most of the cards you mentioned, but I'll craft them as soon as I have some dust
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what's your favorite hard to pull off combo
mine's auctioneer coin conceal
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>>152958016
>Lost a tavern brawl because the opponent got the freezing spare part from their Mechanical Yeti
Fucking kill me now
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>>152974504
Honestly it's not that unusual to catch up even from having zero board presence, just because evolve is so cheap. You have two high-value minions that get cheaper as the game goes on, two-for-one spiders, brann and barnes. A lot you can do from hand from T4 to T8.
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>>152975104
t. anduin
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I'm really hoping Funnel Cake Priest becomes a tier 2/1 deck and Reddit has to apologize to daddy Brode
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>>152974741
Not shown is a Kraken. I also missclicked the Zoobot due to a random frame drop. That was supposed to be a better card.
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>>152975235
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>Get countered
>Change deck
>Get countered
What the fuck is up with the match making?
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>>152975485
>branes
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Is there a silence priest yet?
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>>152975414
>>152975485

geez what do you fuckers save so much gold for
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>tfw hate playing against priest even though I almost never lose to it
It's basically because of entomb. Damn I hate that card.
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>>152975751
i had just enough gold for all of karazhan at the start of karazhan
i have more now from playing
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>>152975751
I only play arena and like to have a little buffer for harder times.
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>tfw your meme deck goes 7-1 at ranks 6 to 5 and you start getting worried it might be too good and become popular and you'll have to find a new meme deck
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>>152975751
I have 11kg

Been completing my quests everyday since beta, never have to worry about buying an adventure.
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Should I just concede whenever I come up against aggro/tempo shitters? I am genuinely not having fun going up against them and it's casual so no losing of rank bullshit, but I feel like I'd be rewarding them with free gold by conceding. What do, /hsg/?
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>>152974756
take my advice with a grain of salt I'm not that good

I'm confident about Doomsayer and Cabalyst tome, and about removing the ones I mentioned, but maybe there are better options
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>>152975634
forced 50
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>>152975890
meme decks only become memes from people like reynoodle

>>152975940
>im not having fun doing thing
>should I do thing
you figure this one out
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>>152974504
But that's not true because you can easily get good value from hand. Evolve is just a 1 mana card. So any minion that summons another minion doubles the value you get from Evolve.
You can easily fill up your board from hand on turn 7 AND evolve it.

You use cheap cards to evolve them into more expensive and better stated cards. And most of the time you get do it from hand.

Evolve certainly is a win more cards when you're winning, but with a few other cards it is a good catch up cards.
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>>152975634
I want to give hotaru and saya my salty milk, if you know what I mean
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this shit owns so hard

i cannot believe i am not regretting crafting a malygos
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>invite my friend for the Murloc portrait cause im too lazy to grind myself
>start teaching him about the game
>having fun again
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Nightbane Templar is pretty good. Paladin just needs a decent 2 drop now.

Pity dragon decks will die next year though
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You boys got a beast druid deck for me?

I'd appreciate you posting one for me.
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>>152976524
>Pity dragon decks will die next year though
You mean finally because I'm sick of 2 mana 3/3 with charge.
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>>152976570
do you want the balls out aggro/memerange one or the slower violet teacher one
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is cat trick worth including in my aggro hunter deck or not?
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>>152976632
>complaining about one of the most fair decks in the meta
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>>152976312
Looks shit. I'mma try it out.

>>152976078
But anon, I'd be rewarding those dickheads for playing those shit decks by conceding. I don't want to do that.
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>>152976570
All, if you wouldn't mind. But if I'm limited to one I like violet teacher. (Blizzard keeps giving me gold ones no matter how many times I dust them)
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>>152976524
I'd like dragon decks more if they weren't so boring. Every dragon deck has the same core cards
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>>152976790
>>152976680
I'm a retard and replied to my own post.

Please see that post
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>>152976681
im going to go with sure
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>>152975751
there is nothing to spend it on
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>>152976886
i wish they had interesting synergy like beasts but it's just "if you're holding a dragon"
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>>152976710
maybe if gromm wasn't a card
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I've already hit rank 9 and don't plan on laddering anymore.
Should I just play some meme decks?
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>Priest plays Yogg
>I play my Yogg
>Yogg casts Mindvision and get's another Yogg hed got with his Mindvision
>he casts another Mindvision
>turns out he got a 3rd Yogg
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So has anyone done anything worthwhile with the new cards of this wing? I was thinking of running the curator in anyfin pally.

So far, I've had a lot of fun with protect the king . Onyx Bishop and PotF are legitimately good too which is nice.
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>sylvanas
>brawl

i hate it
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Is there anything more satisfying than killing someone with shadow funnel cakes?
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>>152976312
I'd love to play a Yogg druid deck but I don't have Yogg or Fandral and all my gold is being used for Karazan. :(
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>>152976906
this is the one that includes the curator package with finley and azure drake

if you want to be more aggressive, cut the curator and drakes for two savage roars and another raptor
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>>152959047
I got to rank 5 as well after I said "fuck it" and build a bunch of T1 and T2 netdecks.
Too lazy to grind to legend and also the meta is shifting with those new cards.
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>tfw finally reached rank 5 In wild
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>>152977105
Get that golden epic first
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>>152977162
Fandral actually isn't amazing in the deck, but he's pretty much kill on sight for any opponent because they're afraid that you're a token deck and you're going to drop a billion power of the wilds and raven idols, so he pulls his weight that way. He's also a slick pull off of Barnes.

I wouldn't run the deck without Yogg, though, he's one of the best board clears in Druid.
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>>152977304
this is the best time to grind to legend
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>>152976312
Swapped Fanfral for a Moonkin because I dont have Fandral. Might swap it for Doomsayer instead. Thoughts?
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Oh shit only a few more days till 400 dust
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>>152977598
Honestly, I get rekt by experimental decks, but as soon as I try to recreate those they suck complete ass.

Better be happy about my rank 5 dustbox and try again next season.
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>>152977769
Doomsayer is a pretty bad pull off of Barnes. I might try an Auctioneer in Fandral's place, or a Mire Keeper, depending on if people are still playing heavy control or not.
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>C'Thun
>Prep
>Charge
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>>152970343
ETC has the best intro
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>>152977769
Also, when playing the deck, don't be afraid to use Moonfires and Roots to maintain board parity against tempo matchups like Hunter and Zoo and shit. You won't need the Malygos combo versus them, they'll just die to a Swipe for 9 when the time comes.
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>>152978205
Thanks for the tips. This deck is quite refreshing.
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>>152970343
I remember when I first started playing Hearthstone that I really, really liked Rag and Geddon's animations.

Actually opened them, one after, the other, when I was opening packs one night early on in my HS playing.
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>>152977962
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>>152976312
These Malygod decks bother me because I have literally every other legendary in these kinds of decks other than him.
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>dropping a full rank because both swipe have been in my bottom 10 cards 4 games in a row
feelsbadman
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>>152978414
>Started playing any warrior is my favorite class
>you will have to spend money to get the legendaries you need!
>pull a Grom and a Geddon
Funny how my first fully built real deck was control warrior
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okay, that was fun
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Are there any cards you make room for in your deck even though there are better replacements?
I crafted gold King's Elekks for all my hunter decks.
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>>152978931
I jam Loot Hoarders into a lot of shit, whether it be Aggro or Control. A 2/1 is great for clearing junk like totems and hunter 3/2s and such.
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>>152974260
Are we playing the same game?

Because druid spells are fantastic. In fact, there is an entire archetype centered around druid spells.

Are you retarded?
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Reposting because it didn't get much attention...
What do you guys think about it?
Would it change the game too much? In my opinion it would force the opponent to trade, favouring non-aggro decks
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>>152977249
no savage combatant?
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>>152979174
>Barrens hunter
>is an elf
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>>152979223
Wow, totally slipped my mind. Cut the Fandral and the Raptor for them.
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>>152978931
what's a better replacement for kings elekk?
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>>152979174
didn't you hear friend? shamans hero power in now OP there's no need for a buff
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>>152979174
wow look at all these cards that will never exist, let's pretend they exist and have imaginary hearthstone scenarios about how they'll play
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>>152979174
>wand is a 3 mana hunters bow
Balanced
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>>152979174
No, it wouldn't. You gave the defensive player tools that are slower than taunt, because they require an attack. Which aggressive variant right now doesn't kill threatening minions? Aggressive decks are about tempo.
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Deadly Fork

2 mana
2/2
Deathrattle: Add a 3/2 weapon to your hand

Playable?
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>>152979314
Huge Toad, Flame Juggler, Kindly Grandmother, BloodMage. Depends on the deck. I just like forcing my opponent to show me a card rather than getting draw. Draw is bonus with Elekk.
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>>152975913
pic or lying faggot
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>>152979510
yeah this'd be playable i think

3/3/2 is basically run by hunter
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>>152979037
>Loot hoarder in control
Control doesn't want to thin their deck, they want high-value draw if they want it. Look at most controlling variants. With the exception of cards like Shield Block (which is iffy to mention, because it does so much more than just "thin the deck") control wants cards to go more than 1 for 1.
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>>152979668
Not necessarily, Loot Hoarders were run in N'Zoth Paladin/Priest before Kara came out. That's mostly due to the lack of two drops in those classes, though. Not everyone has FWA.
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>>152979668
Loot hoarder is decent in n'zoth control, but other than that, yeah, you're right.
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>>152979449
Typical control shitter reasoning. They call any deck that doesn't go to fatigue 'aggro' and then say that all they do is hit face when it's not true.

I've seen people call Token Druid and Dragon Warrior 'aggro' these days. We live in a day and age when even Hunter is midrange, for goodness' sake.
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>>152979130

I mean Druid spells are fine but other classes seem to have better damage, removal and buff spells to me
their token spells are pretty good but Hunter's still seem better
Druids also don't get secrets either
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>>152979174
now the aggro dude hits your minions and doesn't even force a trade

you didn't fix shit
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>MFW an aggro niggershaman runs out of threats against my reno-curator shaman

Is there ANY better feeling than beating cancer with memedecks?
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tfw hungry dragon is forever unplayable because 1 drops will always be broken as shit
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>>152980213
Hungry dragon'd be shit even without 1-drops being broken. It's basically a worse Yeti if you look at the amount of stats you put on the board substracted by what you put on your opponent's board.
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>>152979174
What does Ranged even do?
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>>152980498
sounds like it's give a minion immune while attacking
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>>152980213
>>152980492
It fucks up Resurrect Priest, kinda.
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>>152980498
probably means it can attack shit and not take damage in return
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>>152971878
Zoo with extra removal, like Siphon Soul and shadowflame.
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>>152980498
it is shown in the first card what ranged is
I think it would change the meta a ton
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>mfw first big win arena in forever
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>beat fotm netdeck priest with face hunter
>a recent opponent would like to be your friend!
Have you bullied a priest today?
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>>152980793

>playing shaman

whoa big surprise there haha
I mean what a coincidence :)
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>>152979873
I mean, >>152979449 was me, and I tend to play slower decks.

But thinking that the problem is that decks don't want to trade and that giving players ways to make slower play more efficient will disincentivize players from playing aggressive decks is dumb. The guy is trying to make people better at running 5ks when its way simpler and just as effective to try the 40 yard dash.

Its the same mistake blizzard made with Inspire. Some of these might see play, but it won't do anything to change the general speed of the metagame because the main thing that drives tempo to be so efficient- that the attacker has control- isn't being manipulated.

Which is why taunt is a better mechanic.
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>>152970328
Show deck
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>>152977962

Good. Torture that warrior picking faggot.
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>>152981318
Regular zoo with some deathrattles swapped in and Nzoth at the end. It's probably shit since no streamer plays it. Just ignore that attentionwhore.
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>>152979937
You're stupid and evidently terrible.

Look at druid spells and look at, say, paladin spells. Compare and contrast them.

Druid spells have high versatility and the better ones are CHEAP, so you can have big turns with them.

You're making the mistake of looking at every individual spell (which still makes druid spells incredible) rather than how they work together.

There is a reason yogg druid is so damn good. Part of that is that innervate is insane.
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I had to cut Zoobot unfortunately. Love Unleash Volcanic Drake combo.
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>>152972870
WHERE DO I FIND MORE PICS LIKE THIS
AHHHHHHHHH
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>>152981516
>Love Unleash Volcanic Drake combo.
I fucking hate that I could look at my card collection all day and never see synergies like this, I wish I could build my own decks
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>>152979812
>>152979802
Yeah, as I said. Look at most variants. N'Zoth Paladin isn't doing anything special at the moment, and its 5 minutes of fame were during the controlfest at the outset of WotOG because no one had figured out how to play yet.

That is besides the point though. The original point is that slapping Loot Hoarder in control decks haphazardly is dumb (and since loot came back with N'Zoth it got more value than card draw) because you can have a cantrip or you can have a bomb.
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>>152981516
have been trying Volcanic drake in control pally aswell with moderate sucess, few time pulled a pyro eq into volc drake and solemn vigil, its neat but feelss too gimmicky
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>>152980990
>Playing Aggro Shaman.
>Rez Priest has to play Pyro turn 2 or he gets over run.
>Kill Pyro, he Resurrects it and I kill it again.
>Turn 6 he plays Sylvanas I kill it and play 477.
>He Resurrects into Pyro. Plays Bishop Pyro.

He concedes.
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>>152979510

DEADLY FUCKING FORK

3 MANA 3/2

DEATH FUCKING RATTLE: Equip 3/2 Fork

HOW GODDAMN HARD WAS THAT BRODE. WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU BURY BLADE FLURRY FOR

Can some talented artfag edit this with brode's face
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>>152981261
Yeah, the problem with trying to force control into the meta is that it usually goes through the form of either greedy lategame cards that aggro can overrun, or strong defensive early cards that aggro just adds to its list.

Especially since Blizzard is afraid of disruptive play or stronger board clears / ways to punish overextending. It's not as bad a situation as a lot of people claim though, overall.
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>>152976312
replacement for sylvanas?
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>>152980990
>priests thinks ill kill injured blademaster so he'll ress it back
>just go face, fill board with threats and go face
>he dies
How do people lose against this ress meme?
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CotW should be 10 mana since there are worse spells than it that cost more, so why not? This curve hunter is some secret pally tier super aids.
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>>152981913
Don't worry anon, 3 expacs from now they'll give rogue a totally broken weapon.
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>>152982142
when they randomly get thalnos from mindvision randomly giving them the spell damage to clear my board
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>>152981913
Way too OP.
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>>152981717
>slapping loot hoarder in control decks haphazardly is dumb

it's really not if you don't have many better options at the two slot

few things can 2 for 1 at that slot, and cutting two drops entirely for more late game gas just means you're going to be absurdly greedy
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>>152982020
Yeah, exactly. I can't overemphasize your point about strong early options just getting added to aggro's list.

The one exception was Chow, but that just saw play in midrangier decks instead. Control decks just can't utilize strong bodies effectively without doing something wacky.

And you're also right, its really not that bad. Control decks actually have strong comeback mechanics right now. The worst thing about it, I would say, is that aggressive shaman variants don't actually mind longer games all that much, but even that isn't atrocious.

The metagame is actually pretty cool right now.
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>Queue directly into a counter to my deck
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>>152982131
There ain't one, nigga, just craft it. It goes into like every deck and is an amazing pull off Barnes. I guess you could go with like an Ancient of War or something but really Sylvanas is your best bet.
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>>152980674
On the other hand, it's pretty good in Resurrect Priest.
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>>152982291

And yet warrior is warrior, shaman has bullshit like 4 7/7 and Evolve, and Warlock can vomit sticky minions forever.

But this, THIS would just be too much. The class that uses it's face to remove most threats all the while having no means of reliable heal or board clear, this here is just too over the top.
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>>152982317
Then we are looking at what you're playing that has bad 2 drop slot options. Besides, Loot Hoarder doesn't go 2 for 1, and it dies super easily to a lot of common effects without hitting anything.
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>>152982518
>Resurrect Priest.

Is this really the way Blizzard is going with Priest now?
I don't mind
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>>152981913
3 mana 3/2
Deathrattle: Give a 1 mana 3/2 weapon.
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>>152982693
You will mind when the deck dies 6 months from now
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>try to make mage deck with high end
>have to put in the mandatroy 8+ 1 drops and 4+ 2 drops
fml
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>>152982598
reminder that there will be nothing to stop the rogue onslaught in 2017
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>That guy who ropes every single turn by taking as long as possible to perform basic actions
>Clearly not intentional as he starts fumbling cards as the rope burns down
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>>152982601
Loot Hoarder does go two for one, if you're hitting shit like a Huge Toad or a Raven or a Flame Imp. If it eats a hero power, then you're trading even on cards and mana, which is about as good as classes like Priest and Paladin can expect early game.
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>>152982240
>Hunter gets a card that makes them deck build around getting to turn 8 and people call it cancer.

>Old Face hunter, Aggro Shaman, Dragon warrior all win or lose by turn 6.

I'm sick of the COTW meme. All the cards have insane powercreep not just COTW
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>>152982874
brm will be gone in 2017 but loe will be here until 2018
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>play as zoo
>warrior
>play as warrior
>hunter

woah, what a fucking garbage game
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>>152983016
wrong
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>>152982693
Well, Priest has nothing wroth summoning before turn 3 and he has 4 cards that resurrect, 2 of witch can be played on turn 4.
There are 2 minions that have better stats, but a bad battlecry which can be avoided by resurrecting them.

You're basically guaranteed to resurrect the Blademaster with full health or if you don't have him, the hungry dragon.

There aren't many classes that can effectively deal with a 4/3 and then 2 4/7 on the next turn.

But all that fades in comparison to trogg, golem and 477.
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>>152981913
>>>/r9k/
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>>152982931
t. rexxar

Go kill yourself
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>>152983204
t. garrosh
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TROLDEN GOT MARRIED, boys! HE did IT!

Who /HYPE/ here?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJksTVyghl2/
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>>152982874
I don't know why people hate Brann.
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>>152983308
Literally who?
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>Priest skillfully Entombs my minion
>plays it the very next turn
why is this allowed
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>>152983308
Kill (You)rself
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>>152983308
this is the most reddit tier post i've seen in awhile
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>>152983389
did he died
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>>152983351
Don't know. Just saw it while browsing for HS. :^)
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>>152983494
tracers design was based on zeriyah, because the creator is obsessed with her
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>>152983270
Just because the cancer that is hunter can beat the aids that is warrior doesn't mean only warriors can complain about your retarded deck.
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>>152982931
new face hunter wins or loses before CotW mana too
same with face decks of other classes

my games against secret paladin were resolved before they ever got to Dr. 8 mana, doesn't mean I'm going to go around calling tirion not stupidly powerful
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will tirion get nerfed because he's in every Paladin deck?
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>>152982921
Which returns to my point about evaluating what you're playing to see why you don't have better option.

You just listed 2 N'Zoth decks, which circles back to the point you seem to keep missing- slapping Loot Hoarder in control decks haphazardly is bad. You'll also note the additional points made to this effect- *most* control decks, with exceptions made for ones that can utilize N'Zoth, N'Zoth paladin and, since you're mentioning it, N'Zoth priest aren't particularly good, so I have trouble seeing their relevance.

Also, priest does have early game options in Pain, Northshire (lmao), and Wild pyro for draw combos which offer better versatility and clear for the early game, as well as draw without diluting the deck with a delayed cantrip.

That said, instead of trying to force yourself into the early game as a control paladin, run 2 wild pyros, 2 equalities, and 2 doomsayers like everyone else and don't act like you're being press-ganged into Loot Hoarder outside of N'zoth.
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>>152982598
>evolve
>bullshit
kek

Fork is fairly decently costed. It's essentially a 3 mana 3/2, deathrattle: draw a card, making it a +1 mana loot hoarder with +1/1, or a -1 mana polluted hoarder with -1/0. While the weapon is a bit overcosted (other 3 mana 3/2 weapons have an upside), paying 0 mana for it would make it silly powerful for arena especially, since as it stands, it's already a decent arena card.

What rogue needs is a proper class identity with synergistic cards, not more individually strong cards.
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>>152983630
i don't currently have a deck that contains call of the wild
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>>152983308
What an ugly whore
>>
Is totem shaman real or just another meme build?
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>>152983325
exclusively because of ancient shieldbearer
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>>152983753
So? No one cares about you in particular.
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>>152983997
so don't call it my deck
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>>152983709

Evolve is pretty fuckin' dumb dude. Puke out a bunch of 1/2 mana minions and get some nice shit. Why do you think Evolve shaman is everywhere?

I'm just tired of Rogue getting screwed over.
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>mfw the meta is so shit, every single goddamn control deck is forced to put two doomsayers in their decks just to hopefully get a turn to breath in the early-game

Cool cards like Medivh will never see play because this game's developers are absolute shit at balancing archetypes.
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>>152984101
Shut the fuck up
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>>152984112
>Why do you think Evolve shaman is everywhere?
Since when?
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>>152984174
All them C'Thun warriors running doomsayers tho
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>>152984219
no
maybe if you go whine about call of the wild on reddit you might get upvoted
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>>152983325
>Let me just go ahead and casually gain 20 armor.
>My thanks.
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>>152984112
Rogue deserves it. Priest deserves it. The only thing wrong with anduin and Valera getting fucked is that Garrosh isn't at the bottom of the pike with them. Their playstyles when successful are all fucking bullshit. The designated control decks should be paladin and maybe warlock.
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>>152984238

It's calmed down, but just last week it was fucking everywhere since Savjz (where has he gone) and Fagnad played it a bunch.
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>>152983689

No control deck in Hearthstone is particularly good, so your opinion as to whether or not N'Zoth Priest or Paladin are any good is moot in the first place.

You also continue to miss the point: Loot Hoarder is played in addition to other two drops when options are lacking, not as the only two drop.

http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/kolentos-wotog-standard-control-deathrattle-paladin/

https://manacrystals.com/deck_guides/1559-strifecro-s-n-zoth-paladin

In addition, Loot Hoarder is still an auto two-of in Freeze Mage, though I'm sure you'll attempt to twist the definition of Freeze Mage into some turbo combo deck rather than combo/control.
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>>152983864
>>152984283
But that's the problem, not Brann.
There is absolutely no fucking reason that a single card should give you 10 fucking armor on top of a decent body.
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>>152984243
Control warrior's the only control deck that can somewhat manage without Doomsayers because of Fiery Win Axe and other such powerful removals/armorgain, but this can and will change as more and more cards are released that only help aggro instead of curbing it.
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>People who netdeck in casual
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>>152984283
Heh

Greetings
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>>152984395
C'thun warrior isn't even that strong, especially when the ladder is 30% hunter.
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>>152984317
>Rogue deserves it
Rogue is the only patrician class left in the game. Even when it was at its peak, it wasn't as oppressive as Dragon Warrior, Zoo, Aggro Shaman etc. because Rogue mechanics require some basic forethought and shitters can't handle that kind of pressure while playing.

>Priest deserves it
Agreed.
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>>152984317
The issue with priest is a horrific base set in a game with an evergreen base set.

If priest ever sees success, its infuriating to play against. I think Reynad said that priest feels the worst to lose to.

Firebat lost a game pretty horrifically and when asked about it he just said "Just standard priest rolling high".

That's why if any class has to be the worst, it should probably be priest, since it seems to go against Blizzard's own "fun and interactive" mantra, unless they plan on reworking priest's identity into something that isn't gimmicky.
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>>152984317

Anduin can rot at the bottom forever fucking irritating class. But Rogue is the last honest class left, The closest she has to an auto pilot deck is Questing and that still takes some foresight.
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what?
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>>152984624
>>152984112
>>152984317
>Rogue deserves it

Give Rogue any way to heal and you'll fucking regret it

>Play anything above a 3/3
>HEE HAA HEE HEE
>"WELL MET" +4/+4
>*Shadowstep noises*
>Can now play nothing large or risk losing the game

Say it with me, cunts

>FUN AND INTERACTIVE
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>>152984585

>C'thun warrior isn't strong guys
>10 or 20 armor burst isn't strong guys
>1 of 9 heroes counter it, so really it's not that bad

Fuck OFF Garrosh.
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>>152984826
HILARIOUS STORIES TO TELL YOUR FRIENDS

FACEBOOK, TWITTER, YOU NAME IT

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

t. brode
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>>152984826
That's the only next logical step to make hearthstone the facebook game it's supposed to be.
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>>152984869
>9 mana
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>>152984869

Fuck off clown, how often do you see Blade of C'thun?

Did you forget he's 9 mana?
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>>152984981
It should be 10 desu

It's removal that rogue has more than enough options to bounce or protect
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>>152984869
That's C'thun's fault, not Rogue's. Faggot.

I can't wait for C'thun to rotate out.
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>>152984369
You're so stupid that its actually wild. You just keep going with this shit.

Playing Loot Hoarder as a two drop when options are lacking vs as the only two drop is a semantic difference that you brought up, since what most people define as "2-drop" revolves around more than the card's mana cost. Thalnos isn't a 2 drop. Embrace the shadows isn't a 2 drop.

You then list 2 n'zoth paladin lists for reasons I don't really understand.

Freeze mage is a burn deck with control elements, you turboshitter. Also, Loot Hoarder serves the exact purpose in that deck I've been mentioning as why its bad in most control decks- it thins your deck. Minions that replace themselves like this are played for the body as bonus over the card draw. Freeze mage cares about hitting combo pieces faster.

Finally, to your point about no control deck in hearthstone being particularly good, I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever encountered a control warrior variant or C'Thun Warrior at rank 21.
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>>152983308

>you will never make youtube money off stealing clips and editing music over them for 500k+ views
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>>152984893
Is the ladder filled with C'thun warrior?

The answer is no.
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>>152984962
>>152984938
I see posts like this and am confused then remember that VG is populated entirely with people that are ashamed of having disposable time and income and don't have friends that share their interests.
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>>152984869

Everything related to C'thun is overstated horseshit, has LITERALLY NOTHING to do with Valeera.

>See all these if C'thun has 10 get stupid good effect
>Overstated minions have him reliably over 10 by turn 5 or 6

It's not her fault at all dude.
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>>152984826

>friends

yea.. can't wait

haahaaahaaaaaa
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>>152985161
Here's the de facto C'Thun Warrior list that everyone is running at the moment, as evidenced in the Americas prelims:

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/611667-kolentos-cycle-cthun-warrior

I refer you to the two drops. Your own example of C'Thun Warrior fucking runs Loot Hoarder you fucking ape. Fuck off and be obtuse elsewhere, you state school pedant.
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>>152984421
>somewhat manage
I'm just wondering what the issue is here.

Are there people that feel bad about running a 2 mana gain seven or wipe the board?
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>>152985235

Only because his other options are more extreme. Let's see warrior has bullshit (this one's c'thun), mega bullshit and ultra bullshit.

Why would they ever choose just bullshit?
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>>152984826
STORIES TO TELL YOUR FRIENDS HAHAHAHA
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>>152985235
Only because its one and only hard counter has flooded thr ladder due to new cards. That doesn't mean it's not an incredibly powerful deck. In fact, it's so powerful that it took an expansion and an entire meta shift to get rid of it.
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>>152984981
>>152985076
I never understood this argument

By the time Blade of C'thun becomes useful you have 10 mana anyways, and he is removal with possibly the best C'thun buff in the game to the point where you can just run 1 or 2 of him and slap C'thun on any bumfuck deck and still have the dumb fuck get to 16/16 and BTFO the opponent
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>>152985382
>http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/611667-kolentos-cycle-cthun-warrior
>Kolento's C'thun cycle warrior

You looked for the list that is running 10 card draw effects as a way to cycle to combo pieces as a way to try to disprove that loot hoarder exists to thin your deck, but ended up proving that loot hoarder exists to thin your deck.

Are you actually this retarded?
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>barnes sylvannas turn 4
>res syl three times within the next 4 turns
>play syl twice from hand

perfectly balanced :^)
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>>152985382
Oh shit summers here
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>>152985569
The point of C'thun minions isn't C'thun, it's Twin Emperors which comes 2 turns before Blade will ever drop. It's pointless and C'thun Rogue is pure trash.
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>>152985569

>Valeera
>Living that long to use two 9's and a 10

What part of NO RELIABLE HEALING don't you comprehend?
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>>152985393
When every deck is forced to run it because aggro is rampant in this game, yeah, it's an issue. It makes the game monotone and boring.
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>>152985726
Literally nothing you do will make the >elf live past turn 6 against any reasonable aggro deck so what exactly is your point
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>>152985161
>l-loot hoarder has no place in control decks, look at c'thun warrior!

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/611258-zalaes-cthun-warrior-americas-summer-prelims-2016
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/611231-amnesiacs-cthun-warrior-americas-summer-prelims
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/611470-phonetap-cthun-warrior-americas-summer-prelims
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/611244-firebats-cthun-warrior-americas-summer-prelims
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/611319-chakkis-cthun-warrior-americas-summer-prelims-2016
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/611390-impacts-cthun-warrior-americas-summer-prelims-2016

look at all of these shit players like firebat and zalae and amnesiasc and chakki playing loot hoarder in their c'thun lists

truly, they're nothing compared to theorycrafters on /hsg/ lmao
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>>152985382
In fact, I didn't even realize the depths of your retardation the first time around.
You said control decks are all bad, so I listed C'Thun warrior as an example of a good control deck, so you took it to mean that C'Thun warrior doesn't run loot hoarder, looked for a list that does, then went "A-ha! A good C'Thun warrior list that runs loot hoarders!"

You managed to not disprove my point, pick another combo control deck, and then agree with me, but in the wrong direction.

Can you even keep track of your own shifting goal posts?
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>>152985816
>calling anything that isn't control or fatigue an aggro deck
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>>152985816

My point is to dismantle that faggots theory crafting. It will never happen, that's why you never see it.
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>>152985873
Once again, you fail at reading comprehension, and managed to just grab 6 variants of the same combo list as poor evidence against a point I didn't even make.
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>tempostorm zoo list plays brann
???
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>>152985902
OBJECTIVE FACT: any deck slower than yours is effectively an aggro deck.
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does the naxx battleground spider just not come out anymore?
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>>152986045
>tempos storm mage list runs crazed alchemist
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I guarantee if they did something about the bots and hacking going on in this game, the population would drop by half but the game would become playable and fun again.
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>>152986050
Reread that.
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>>152985561
>Only because its one and only hard counter has flooded thr ladder due to new cards.
No.

Go take a look at vicious syndicate's data. C'thun warrior has never dominated the ladder, and has never gone above 7% (from what I checked) on ladder overall, while decks like zoo, midrange hunter and dragon warrior have frequently gone above 10%.
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>>152985235
braindead retards are busy experimenting with shit like beast druid and res priest
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>>152986005
You literally referred me to C'Thun Warrior as an example of a control deck to prove that Loot Hoarder isn't good in control, and implied I'm a Shieldbearer shitter like you in the process. I referred you to actual pros playing Loot Hoarder in their C'Thun lists and now you're trying to twist your example of a control deck into a combo one. You being obtuse doesn't change anything. Control decks live and breathe cycle and card advantage, and hence they play cards like Arcane Intellect and Acolyte of Pain and, yes, Loot Hoarder.
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>>152985739
Does it?

Also, are they?
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>>152986265
I referred C'Thun warrior to you as an example of a good control deck, because you said there weren't any good ones, not that it doesn't run loot hoarder.

And the list that you're linking is a combo list, because it runs 10 cards to thin the deck to hit a double c'thun burst combo.

Your inability to understand the meaning of the word "haphazard" doesn't in any way indicate that Loot Hoarder isn't anything but a deck thinner. Acolyte of Pain and Arcane Intellect are something else entirely.
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>>152986045
It's nothing new, some zoo decks used brann since its release. It's good for trading with double effect on sergeant/dark iron, double peddler draw, double argus buff, 8 dmg gormok etc.
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Will Curator become a thing? Azure Drake is a dragon that can be put into virtually any midrange/control deck, but running just one or two of dem bad boys doesn't make Curator worth it. Pallies like to run Kodo's, but other control classes don't really have any place for beasts. And murlocs? Sheeet. I've been trying out that 2/3 with the AoE, but by the time it's turn 6 it usually doesn't really do shit, and that's the only murloc you'd even consider running in a non-murloc deck.
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what the fuck is this atrocious adventure robot meme voice actor?
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>>152986739
Just wait. It just came out. It'll find a home.

It doesn't need to be insanely busted, it just needs to be good enough.
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>>152986572
Again, you twisting your own example of C'Thun warrior to cease being a control deck and become a combo deck when it suits your argument is silly. Control decks run fucking card draw, because by being reactive by nature you need to find the correct answers to threats. That's literally how control works, in every CCG ever.

Loot Hoarder is an effective way to trade evenly in the early game and get you to the late game. The fact that really good players such as Amnesiac and Kolento and Firebat and Chakki all think so is evidence of this.

You've backtracked a lot, I'd recommend you go the whole way.
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>>152986739
Nope. Menagerie decks are quite shit even with the god that is warrior. It's like playing a shitty arena deck in constructed. I've several versions for several classes and I've only been able to beat priests and maybe 2 hunters.
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>>152986969
You picked the C'Thun warrior variant that is trying to dig for a combo. Its combo control. I'm not even going to begin to talk about how tournament success and ladder success are two different things, because it would probably go over your head, considering your record.

Lets entertain this notion of Loot Hoarder trading well, for whatever reason. How many minions at the moment are running an x/2 statline? It is another card for cycling. If it trades, that is a bonus.

Once again, just because you can't (or won't) read doesn't mean you're right.

Finally, in several of my posts I mentioned and alluded to card draw mechanics that control decks leverage, each one tailored to whatever deck you were howling about at the moment. Saying that Loot Hoarder shouldn't just be tossed into every control deck willy-nilly (I'm switching words because you still seem to be struggling) doesn't mean that it is bad, but its purpose is to thin the deck. Which is why stuff like Acolyte of Pain is better, because it can generate multiple draws without trying to pretend it can kill a Tunnel trogg or having to worry about dying to a ping.
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What is the best beast druid deck atm? Can you switch savage combatant for other cards? I don't really feel like crafting tgt cards.
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Are there any good priest decks going at the moment? Trying purify shenanigans and they're dogshit as expected because of aggro faggots also as expected.
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>>152986969
Don't bother. Apparently C'thun warrior turns from a control deck to a combo deck if you add some more draw to it, even though its win condition stays essentially the same.
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>>152986739
This is what I am trying so far it's 5-4 but that's a really small sample size at 15 at that so I can't guarantee anything. I like it, Curator has helped a lot of times to pull things to a close but I kind of feel like Deathwing is still my only wincon, which sucks and I definitely feel stuck with the idea. Considering Curator in a Freeze/Secret Mage deck possibly Reno with him only having so long to live
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>>152987740
>Priest player calling other people faggots
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post things that infuriate cucktrol players

i'll start
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>>152987571
The breakout deck of Dreamhack Valencia was Evangelion's N'Zoth Paladin. It runs Loot Hoarder.

http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/evangelions-nzoth-paladin-dreamhack-valencia-2016/

The new C'Thun Warrior lists, to which I referred previously (and you referenced), run Loot Hoarder.

Freeze Mage runs Loot Hoarder.

The fact that you try to twist all of these decks into some weird variant of Hearthstone that is anything but Control to suit your argument is laughable. Nobody fucking runs a Fatigue-style Control deck, because they're shit. Control decks attempt to stall the game until they can win by doing powerful things. To get there, some of them run Loot Hoarder, because it's a good card. That doesn't mean it needs to belong in every deck, but casting it off as shit is laughable.

TJesus, dude. You even tried to say to run Wild Pyros and Equalities and Doomsayers in lieu of Loot Hoarder in control Paladin lists. The most notable showing of Control Paladin ever is Evangelion's list, and it fucking runs Loot Hoarder. How ignorant can you be?
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>>152988159
>t. Jesus

as an amerifat I'm compelled to say we have to burn people who disagree and turn their cities into glass
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>>152987907
Standard c'thun warrior is a control deck that tries to control the board with a mix of minions and removal and win either via board control or via a c'thun burst.

Cycle c'thun warrior is a control/combo hybrid, seeking to control the board not via a mix of minions and removal but almost entirely via removal, and getting to c'thun as quickly as possible.

They're not the same. The difference is small, it's not like we're comparing freeze mage to tempo mage, but there is a definitive difference.
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What DOES Illhoof summon? Does anything appear if you stay alive for long enough?
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>>152988127
Sorry, no one can be as big a faggot as you.
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>>152987740
SW Knight OTK
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>>152988151
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>>152988365
If you are me? Jaraxxus off Bane of Doom, Imp Gang, Voidcaller, Voidwalker

still beat him but I was annoyed
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>>152988478
w-what? there is dialogue suggesting he's summoning something
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Zoo is such a well balanced deck, totally not a single problem with it ))))
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>>152988596
apparently not according to some random redditor

I remember the dialogue you are talking about though, maybe foreshadowing to the final part of the adventure maybe?
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>mfw i am getting memed by a curator zoo deck
he pulled off triple menagerie magician buff
im getting shit on by 5/8 twilight guardian
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>tfw bullying dragon warrior
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need to spectate a win. US. H2oso #1898
pls bros
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>>152988346
Standard c'thun win condition against aggro decks: Stabilize in late game with powerful cards like Vek'lor
Cycle c'thun win condition against aggro decks: Stabilize in late game with powerful cards like Vek'lor

Standard c'thun win condition against control: Brann Doomcaller your C'thun (or potentially brann coin c'thun)
Cycle c'thun win condition against control: Brann Doomcaller your C'thun (or potentially brann coin c'thun)

>seeking to control the board not via a mix of minions and removal but almost entirely via removal
The decks run the same amount of removal. Cycle c'thun loses 2x shield slam, 2x brawl and replaces them with blood to ichor and pyro+commanding shout. Armor giving cycle (shield block) is replaced with more efficient cycle (loot hoarder, battle shout). Standard C'thun warrior hardly relies more on minions on board control, considering the only minions it runs over cycle c'thun is the 4/2 divine shield (which makes up for the lost loot hoarders), as well as justicar/sylvanas/another ancient shieldbearer (and the purpose of two of these is not board control, but simply mostly gaining armor).
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>>152989431
and just like that the thread went quiet
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>>152989735
I added u fucker
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>>152970343
1) King Krush 2) ETC 3) Varian 4) Moroes 5) Y'Shaarj
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>>152989731
>autism: the post
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Do warriors run more than one gorehowl?
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>Playing a mage deck
>Priest
>Priest
>Mage
>Priest
>Mage
>Change to paladin
>Warlock
>Warlock
Nice matchmaking system blizzard
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>>152990771
why would you, even if the meta was slower, you don't want to end up having 7 mana weapons in hand
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>>152981318
>>152981409
This.

I only play it because it's fun. It's not even close to competitive.
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Zoobot is surprisingly good in Beast Druid with no murlocs/dragons. It's a Shattered Sun Cleric with +1 health. I tried adding Azure Drakes but the 5 mana slot is too stacked with Druid of the Claw and Stranglethorn Tiger. The card draw didn't really help the deck either, it's more effective to just kill people before you run out of cards in hand.
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>>152991137
>tfw Shattered Sun Cleric used to be a Shattered Sun Cleric with +1 health.
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You ever feel this game sometimes forces your opponent to win? Like you just feel your opponent is going to have a 100% chance to get a taunt totem and that you will 100% not get a useful card on your draw.
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>play hearthstone
>play perfectly, still lose because of RNG
>exit hearthstone, boot up rocket league
>play perfectly, still lose because solo queue'd into 3v3's and got 2 shitty teammates

Even in other games, I can't escape the RNG.
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TOTES ADORBES :3
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>>152990501
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>>152991476
forced 50% my man
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Why did they butcher the lore? There was no petting zoo in Karazhan, and Nightbane wasn't alive either and Illhoof just moved in after the tower got fucked.
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>>152990771

not even when the meta was literally only control priest, freeze mage and control warrior did they run 2 gorehowls
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>>152991731
Ragnaros was also never the Lightlord
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>>152990501
>>152990501
>>152990501
would it see play? is it op?
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>>152991731
>>152991790
Nzoth is a space monster but in Hearthstone he comes from the ocean for some reason.
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>>152992210
N'Zoth is canonically hinted at to be below the sea
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>>152991731
Because you still don't know your place you fucking worthless human cattle wowfag.
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>>152991731
>One Night in Karazhan
>Medivh is inviting raid bosses to boogey down
HEY WTF THERE WAS NO PETTING ZOO THE FUCK

I want to think you are baiting for (you)'s, but there is a real chance you are this autistic.
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>>152992210
"no"
>>152991731
there was a petting zoo in karazhan before medivh died and all if you believe
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Dude, fuck Zoolock. Like Shaman, OK, they will get gutted next year like Paladin did. Hunter is not nearly as bad as its competitors (mostly because their early game is not downright broken) though Call of the Wild is bullshit. Warrior will get nerfed to the ground. But they will never TOUCH Warlock, man. They even print MORE cards for them. Why?
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I should just give up and not even attempt to ladder or build decks if I don't have the 3-4 barnes legendaries, right?

I can't even put money into getting Ragnaros, Sylvannas or Ysera. How do you niggas get so much dust
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>>152991476
i love the feeling of impending doom when i know the hunter has the second call of the wild, how mages will topdeck fireball/roaring torch before i heal out of range, or how their rag will take out my highest value minion out of 5 targets. i remember myself saying once "now watch this druid innervate out rag to take out my 8/3 frothing." and then lo and behold
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>>152992321
>Warrior will get nerfed to the ground
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>>152992304
Why so angry?
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>>152992487
I expect at least Execute to turn into 3 Mana or something next year.
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>>152992321
Because Zoo is the only appealing deck to both new and old players. The hero power is only useful for handlock (GUTTED) and getting tons of small efficient minions.
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>>152958434
but priest is ok now
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>>152990501
any source on the image?
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>>152992517
My autism is incompatible with other peoples autism.
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>>152992292
>>152992319
>physical mainfestation of the Void
>scary sea monster
pick one my dude
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>>152992707
My cousin
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>>152992707
http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1472244570605.png
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>>152992774
Then how come you come here? There are a lot of autists here
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>>152992820
I hope you're baiting, go read some lore my man. Old gods are servants of the void gods
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>>152992385
get rank 5 every season and keep doing quests

if you don't want to spend money it's a marathon, not a sprint
>>
>>152992918
Old gods serve Sargeras
>>
Relatively new, what deck should I aim to build as my first?
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>>152972896
you dont think it be like it is but it do
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>>152993510
zoo
>>
What Adventure cards should I dust from Karazhan? What Naxx cards don't even see play in wild?
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>>152991524
go play fighting games or starcraft then if you don't want RNG or teammates
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>>152992918
Nzoth may be imprisoned under the sea but he himself isn't a sea monster. Hearthstone went all Lovecraftian and likened him to a sea monster for flavor.

He's a Void nigger.
>>
>>152993510
If you buy 2 wings of League of Explorers with your new player gold then you can probably build aggro shaman without much effort. The only hard part would be getting doomhammer. But the rest of the deck is like 6 rares, commons, and techs.

People are probably gonna greentext for >aggro shaman but it's a deck that works and isn't hard to learn.
>>
>>152993436
>old gods serve sargeras
Excuse me?
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>>152993648
there was no depiction of him until now
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>>152993556
>>152994008
Alright, thank you
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>>152993648
C'thulu, Nyala and co. aren't sea monsters either, doesn't stop them from having shitloads of tentacles. Besides, the cosmic horros resemble deep sea shit because the deep sea is about as strange and unfamiliar to us as the void or deep space are. Symbolic shit you cuntnigger.
>>
>Can make most standard decks on icy veins
>Can't get below rank 12

How do I stop being a shitter?
>>
I love this brawl so much.
>>
>Everytime I've done the stranglethorn tiger plus menagerie warden combo my rival has a perfect answer

Dude, this deck sucks I'm gonna add dragons to it
>>
>new battlenet patch
>more facebook integration

amazing
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>>152994201
git gud.
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>>152994909
wow...
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>>152995052
Wow is infinitely more BM than sorry imho
>>
Thought I was going to hit legend this season but I'm tilting hard after I hit 5, all of the decks I've used that were reliable are just getting curbed consistently.

I didn't think much would change when this wing was released but I'm back to rank 7 and still losing, wtf do I do
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>>152995204
Have you tried to git gud?
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>>152991731
it's supposed to be a pre-explosion karazhan, and the menagerie is called the menagerie for a reason

obviously there's a lot more weird shit happening like draenei and orcs being in the promotional art but hey
>>
>tfw aggroshitter gets btfo
>>
>>152995204
NETDECK BETTER
>>
>>152995362
how the fuck do you need keep at least some shit in your hand for this situation if you're going against freezemage
>>
Is rogue the most phallic class? Weapons are much more penetrative than other game mechanics, and unlike other weapons classes who just have the occasional 2-for-1 war axe or truesilver or whatever, rogue is thrusting almost continually during the course of a game. And rogue is characterized by its explosive climaxes much more than a deck like warrior.

In somewhat related news, it's funny that the A tier of arena classes is pretty unambiguously the 2 female characters out of the starting 9
>>
>>152995751
>you will never be penetrated by Valeera hard long blade
feels bad man
>>
>>152995650
because you have to mulligan for tempo mage every time?
>>
menagerie decks are complete trash
>>
Wild Beast Druid with 4 mana 7/7

Is it good?
>>
idea for a spell card: 1 mana, choose a minion and make it lose -1/-1 at the end of every turn

good? bad? op?
>>
>>152995751
>Valeera will never unleash her load on your face
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>>152996416
worse corruption bruh
>>
>>152996416
this is only better than corruption against a card that you don't need to give more than -3/-3 to, and corruption is bad
>>
>>152996604
>>152996558
b-but it could also be used to deal 1 damage at the end of your turn so it's flexible...
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>>152996236
Snake dude is 5 mana.
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>>152996868
Nevermind then
>>
>3rd spellbender opened

Really, of all the classic epics you give me the shittiest mage one? This happened in Old Gods with Forbidden Flame too.
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>>152995362
>playing casual
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>>152983709
nah it's not decently costed

first of all on curve a 3 mana 3/2 is utter garbage since it dies to even 1 drops
then you're fucking up your curve if you equip on next turn

3 mana 3/2 with equip on deathrattle would be too OP tho, i think the weapon should just be 1 mana or it should equip the weapon but be weaker and cheaper
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>>152995362
>playing freeze mage in casual
You are both shitters
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>>152997243
do you want me to play curator freeze in ranked?
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How is this for a priest 2 drop that is good to play on curve?
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>>152958016
>tfw when good in HS and Elder Scrolls Legends
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>>152996868
I only recognize CIA man. Is the terrain a reference to something else?
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>>152997381
Evolve memes carried me from 5 to legend. Go ranked or go home nigger
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>>152997387
>dude just give priest 10 armor LMAO
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>>152997659
Are you 12 or something? Fucking Lord of the Rings, you dumb shit.
>>
>>152997387
how about this: 6 mana 4/5 priest legendary, friendly characters can be healed above their maximum health
>>
>>152971469
I actually just use classic. I was showing anon how to switch between them.
>>
Would you rather let the hunt begin, or let the games begin?
>>
TO NORTHREND!
>>
>>152997924
thanks
>>
>>152997934

Priest doesn't need more big guys, the class needs cheap minions that can be effective when played on curve and don't have shit stats.
>>
Can anyone tell me what Zeriyah has to do with hearthstone? Is she like the dev teams groupie or something
>>
>armor is a mechanic in HS
>no cards that bypass or punish armor gain
uhh, blizztards?
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>want to get golden roge hero
>too dumd to play mirccle
What are my other options
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>>152998175
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>>152998175
she is a cosplay slut that got hired to be a community manager
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>>152997571
>red blue
>>
I just don't even know.

They're all amazing.
>>
I made a broken as fuck Paladin Beast deck. Currently 13-0.

Holy shit.
>>
>>152998289
n'zoth rogue, it's only marginally more challenging than midrange hunter or beast druid
>>
>>152998552
mechwarper you idiot
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>>152998583
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>>152998089
how about a 2 mana 3/1 legendary that does the same thing then? combine with circle of healing or flash heal
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>>152998583
ooh i want to see it post penis and rank
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>>152998552
Second mechwarper into constructed mech pal
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>>152998661
>how about a 2 mana 3/1
hired
>>
>>152958853
Any way to get coins for free?
>>
>>152998768
how would you make it more powerful stats for the effect, then? a 2/2? a 1/3? because a 1/3 that becomes a 1/7 still isn't going to do shit
>>
>>152998626
>>152998767
We're not even considering the Spidertank? I can combo it with the Mechwarper I have already and if I don't hit combo cards it's a great 3 drop.

This is Arena, things can get really fucked up when you try too hard for the combo.
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>>152998921
2/3
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>>152998552
>it's another you see a great arena draft and get conned into paying gold for arena only to be offered complete shit episode
>>
>>152999036
so you play it on 2 mana, combine with circle of healing and it becomes a 2/7 and can't even kill tunnel troggs? 3/1 is the best stat distribution for it if you're going to make any lower than vanilla stats because of the effect
>>
>>152998931
What are you saying? With 2 mechwarpers and spider tank, shielded minibot, harambebot and shredder you'll destroy the early, it's INSANE tempo

Spidertank is just a 3/4 and dwarf is good but mechwarper is better
>>
>>152999173
3/3
>>
>>152993606

Rocket League has everything from 1v1 up through even 4v4's (though only 3v3 and below for competitive/"ranked"). I could technically just play 1v1, and I do, but it feels so lonely, like just a level above playing by yourself in Free Play mode.

3v3 feels the best when it all works out and you have good teammates that actually understand teamwork. It feels the best when you make goals where all 3 members are involved in some way with touching the ball to eventually get it in the net. When all of those people from both teams react to cool stunts working out. The downside is if you don't have a real team of people you know, you can randomly get set up with shitty teammates, it's a roll of the dice. When it's good it's great and when it's bad it's the worst, like going from being 4 points ahead to losing by 1-2 points.

1v1 is either silent or the opponent is a dick, in Rocket League you can force your opponent to watch ever replay if you don't vote to skip. It's like if every time your opponent slammed down a highmane or CotW you had to watch a slow mo replay, it's pretty shitty when you just want to play the game, plus there is actual text chat and nearly no limit to emote spam like in HS.

The real answer is to find people I can trust/who don't suck, and can play with regularly, but that's easier said than done.

/rant
>>
>>152998931
You can't miss a 2-drop, and you have all 2 of them right now.
>>
>>152999192
>>152999280
Yeah but it's not like a constructed deck where I have 2 of each. So far I have 5 mechs. I admit it will be great when I actually manage to roll out that insane tempo on curve but it's not as likely as you guys are making it sound.
>>
How do you beat Heroic Drakkisath without Majordomo tricks?
>>
>>152999410
>2 mana card with ok stats and a powerful effect
vs
>3 mana card with ok stats
>>
>>152999410
I'm not even talking about mech discount with mechwarper, I'm saying you have two 2-drops and five 3-drops, and you want to pick a good 3-drop that isn't muster or coghammer over a good 2-drop.
>>
>>152999129

I did that once, got a great paladin draft even. Went 1-3 by going against what were effectively 3 constructed wild decks. Tried again and similar shit happened, both times all I got was fucking dust and an old gods pack

Never again. Now I'm getting the wings a week or so late it's fucking bullshit.
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>>152961491
>raiding is for nerds
t. cardgame player
>>
>>152999649
Okay yeah I guess I was ignoring my curve a bit. It's 15 cards deep I guess it's probably worth it.
>>
>Curator Reno Elise Control Mage
How would you rate this deck idea so far?
>>
anyone on asia who can help with an 80g quest? foryngilnith#1620
>>
>>152999426
just keep trying until you get good rng
>>
>>153000059
Kibler tier.
I kind of want to play with reno control mage, but I don't see any win condition aside from relying on yogg or monkey rng. Maybe planting a good antonidas to have enough burn to finish off the opponent, idk.
>>
>>153000059
Meme/meme
>>
>>153000059
>not playing Reno Control Miracle Yogg C'thun Monkey Curator Mage
heh.
>>
Anyone can tell if they fixed the explosive sheep/tentacle/abomination taunt bug?
The Curator keeps hitting them and i'm sick of this.
>>
>>153000435
Elise, opponent runs out of steam? I run Ysera in it as well for now

>>153000554
>he doesn't play tempo control aggro c'thun miracle purify priest
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>>153000637
just play freeze mage
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>>152998297
>>152998358
Thanks...... ugh
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>>153000716
>>
>>153000637
not with the demon dude at least
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>Do the Mage challenge for Khara
>Medivh in my hand

>His fucking intro music

And now that my task is done, I will take my place... amongst the legends of the past
>>
got spectator daily, can anyone help a brother out?

(EU) RERORERO#2904
>>
>>153000554
>Control xxx xxx xxx (anything other than warrior)
lol
>>
>>153000989
Vanessa is such a qt

When is she getting her own card?
>>
WHAT DO I DO WITH THIS RRREEEEEEE
>>
>>153000000
>>
>>153001180
silence shadow madness'd minion and it might stay yours
>>
>>153000637
It doesn't seem to work 100% of the time.
I used it on Heroic Julianne and found it would work until she played the 1/2 "buff a minion's attack" minion and then she'd just kill the taunt.
And Heroic Wolf either flat-out doesn't care about it or just doesn't care about it under certain circumstances, I stopped trying after finally pulling it off and him just ramming it with a bear.
>>
>>153001092
When Monara and Yrel do

Blizzard apparently hates sexy legendaries
>>
>>153000637
Do you really need cheese to beat the easiest heroic fights of the fucking century? Git gud.
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>can't even be bothered to get rank 10

why did I buy this adventure
>>
>>153001518
That looks delicious...
>>
Playing against Priest makes me want to hurt people.

I wish this annoying faggot stayed dead.
>>
>tfw zoo, despite its reputation, is the least cancer deck in the metagame

>no surprise direct face damage spells to kill you through taunts with 20 damage
>no cheesy board clears
>minions actually fight eachother
>>
>>153000637
http://www.hearthhead.com/news=255397/blizzard-hotfixes-moat-lurker-silverware-golem-encounter-and-abomination-ai-bug

They just fixed it.
>>
>>153001698
>Playing against Priest makes me want to hurt people.
Anon, it's called you being fucking shit
It's like losing a fight to some 9 year old kid
>>
>>153001775

Shut the fuck up caged retard, win or lose facing priest isn't fucking fun. This is almost a unanimous opinion.
>>
>>153001873
This game is never fun you fucking faggot, I hate losing and sometimes even winning
Fuck off with your feelungs shit
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>>153001732
>zooniggers have now been using the "we engage in minion combat so we aren't cancer" meme for over 2 years
>>
>>153001986

t. Anduin

Everyone hates you and wishes you stayed unplayable.
>>
>>153001986
Not him, then why the fuck do you play it?
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>>153001986
>I hate winning
>>
>>153001732
i had 2 attack on the board and killed a guy with double PO and double soulfire for exact lethal from 18 hp
>>
>>153001040
no shame guys rank 12 shitter just looking to get his 40 dust
>>
>>153002152
wow PO lets you go through taunts?
>>
>>153002309
you don't have any taunts because zoo has board control
>>
>>153002309
>i-it's not cancer if it gets blocked by taunts!
zooniggers say the darndest things
>>
What were the optimal strats for the new heroic wing ? Already beat it but want to see what was supposed to work.

What i did-
Curator-anyfin paladin
Nightbane- control warlock
Illhoof-bolster warrior w/ pyros, revenge, etc
>>
I own exactly 4 Old Gods legos and I opened my 2nd dublicate.

Are you fucking kidding me. Fuck the game rng, my pack rng is fucking me over. I hate this game.
>>
>>153002530
i didnt say it wasn't cancer
you shieldbearers aren't good at reading
>>
>>153002309
hang on let me use some neutral viable taunts real quick
wait shit they removed belcher
>>
So what was Illhoof trying to summon? I tried to stall it out but he just played 7 imps and then just played removal spells and passed until fatigue.
>>
>>153002047
>>153002058
>>153002106
>I have played this game for less than 2 months
wtf i hate /hsg/ now
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What will it take to kill curvestone?
>>
>>153002841
Been here since naxx. Fuck off to /v/ with your jaded gamer bullshit
>>
>>153002841
you should stay away from things you hate when you can. you're just going make your life more miserable than it needs to be.
>>
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WHO ELSE CLOWN FIESTA
>>
>>153002930
2017 rotation can do it if they stop adding shit like onyx bishop and add more arcane giants
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>>153002841
>le depressed gamer meme :'(
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>>153002930
remove every card that costs 3 or less
games start with 5 mana
mana cap up to 15, new cards added for this
health doubled
>>
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>>153002930
add more removal and boardclears
>>
>>153002930
4 mana destroy all minions, with some downside like overload 5 or lose 3 health for each minion destroyed
>>
>>153003034
i don't play netdecks
>>
>>153002930
Blizzard actually adding efficient spells
Blizzard actually adding real tech cards
Blizzard attack/defend system of magic added and taunt reworked entirely
>>
>>153003280
You don't like winning
>>
>>153000000
>>
new thread
>>
>>153002930

Nothing, it's curvestone by design.
>>
>>153003340
in a rng game no it doesn't really feel like winning, especially when you netdeck
>>
>>153003664
it wasnt nearly as bad back in Vanilla and Naxx where the spell/minion ratio was much higher and overly efficient sticky early game minions were far fewer in number.

Fast decks have gotten faster and slow decks have gotten slower with removal stacked decks. Neither extreme is very fun
>>
New thread

>>153003903
>>153003903
>>153003903
>>
>>153003062
>Add more single target removal
No
>Add more aoe
Yes
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