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Previous thread: >>152670545


>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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Level 62 Ludwig
Please help me awaken from this nightmare
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Is the Dream dead?
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>>152946267
The georgrahy on this map is all wrong.

Where is the Forbidden Woods-Central Yharnam connection? Or the Yharhagul-Old Yharnam connection?
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>>152949065
not really I'd say, also after finally beating Logarius with some help from someone, and finishing up the Alfred questline(RIP), decided to give both the Nightmare Frontier and the Hunter's Nightmare some exploration, ironically so far I'd say the Frontier is the harder one of the two(partially cause that damn witch managed to summon two freaking Hunters to go after me simultaneously, managed to kill both though, got killed by a Yeti boulder before I could find my way to the witch to kill her though), the Hunter's Nightmare NPC Hunter's on the other hand have been pretty easy to fight so far(in fact probably the easiest NPC Hunter fights I've had besides maybe Henryk)

also part of the reason why the thread is kinda dead right now might be cause I kinda screwed up making the thread, I forgot to put the Bloodborne General title in the Subject box

>>152949689
as the OP(kinda funny that someone still on their first playthrough had to make the thread), I agree that that map is all screwy, that's part of the reason I used it as the OP image, I knew it'd spark some discussion, would love it if someone made a more accurate map of Yharnam and it's surroundings

also quick question, is there any point to the Grave of The Dark Beast lamp besides allowing you to go back to the Dream right after you kill Paarl, or is that it?
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>>152949913
You can use the Grave of the Darkbeast lamp to go through the back of Old Yharnam and befriend Djura
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GUYS I FINALLY DID IT AFTER A WEEK OR TWO OF TRYING
I BEAT LUDWIG
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>>152950174
This is just the beginning, two of the bosses you'll meet are even harder.
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Anyone care to help me with Laurence? Password 3689. A nice fellow tried with me yesterday, but we were fucked everytime
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>>152952950
If you're still there and you still need assistance, I'd be happy to lend a hand.
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>>152955417
There in five, is that okay?! Password 3689
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>>152952950
There now. Ringalingalinging!
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>>152955417
>>152955646
I've been ringing my small res for a while now... You didn't run off and fight him without me, did you?
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>>152956647
Still waiting, killing enemies! I'm level 135, if that has anything to do with it? And new game+. Passord is still 3689
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Arya, wanna try Laurence again? And thanks with the invader, btw!
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>>152949689
Wouldn't Iofeska's clinic be closer to the forbidden woods?
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>>152946267
It's Oedon not Odeon.
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Kosm
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>>152961313
I thought it was Kos.
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Best gem setup for the Bloodletter?
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>>152961901
27.2s if you want an easy farm. Offshape blt gems if you're autistic and like rng fucking with you
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>>152946267
This OP is pretty shit

It doesn't even have Bloodborne in it's subject, just the tag
You do know that there could be generals that also use bbg right?
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>>152961649
https://youtu.be/1jShoqWr3z0
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Is the DLC worth 20 dollarydoos?
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>>152964575
It's worth every single one. All the areas added are amazing, four out of the five bosses are god tier, and the other one is still great, and a bunch of great weapons and a couple more fun tools are added.
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>>152964575
yes
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>>152964575
no
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>>152964908
>>152964949
whats a good level to go into the dlc? also ng or ng+?
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>>152964993
I'd suggest going in on NG about bl60-70, with at least a +9 weapon. NG+ first time is definitely possible, but it's a lot more difficult, so I'd recommend NG first.
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>>152964575
Fuck yes
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>>152965316
I went into it NGmax and it only took an entire fucking day to beat Ludwig :^)
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can someone link the /bbg/ discord?
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I keep getting fucked by witches because of their fucking invisibility. I was just searching for them, up on the high catwalk thing, when it did the AOE thing from below me. It knocked me off, and then AOEd again the second I hit the ground. I couldn't even see it until I was dead. Then on my way back I got camera'd by a brute with a brick. I'm so fucking mad right now.
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>>152971762
Easiest boss in the game m80
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When can the weather cool the fuck down so I can play Bloodborne again. I literally cannot get into Bloodborne when it's this hot.
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>>152972108
Vicar is easiest. Everything leading up to witches is pretty easy. Witches have a shitty annoying gimmick that can fuck you over.
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What does the number of messengers near the "depth" and "area" fields in the chalice info represent?
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>>152975546
They show how popular the dungeon is.
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>>152976318
Thought so
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>>152965991
It doesn't exist.
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>>152978553
lt does, but we don't want more people in our channel, btfo
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>you can buy mats for higher tier dungeons only on ng+
Fuck my life
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What is the absolute best way to farm echoes? want to reach max level.

i know its nightmare of mensis but i heard chalice dungeons are better but i dunno
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>>152980597
Isz chalice layer 3
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>>152980727
any specific glyphs?
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>>152980931
no, the stock one
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>>152980991
alright
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>>152980597
if you want to reach max level i would recomend you just delete your save file and use the dupe glitch in pre-patch Bloodborne.

Even the best Echo Farming spot in the current game takes WAY too long in terms of maxing out your stats.
Descent getting all your stats to 50.
But to 99 i suggest you just dupe.
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Can anyone help me with AB in the ailing loran? Hate that fucker. Ringing at the lamp, pass is bbg
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>>152979816
>>>/reddit/
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>>152965991
I checked it out anon, literally nothing but faggots there.
You're not missing much unless you're one too then enjoy your gud times.
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>>152982825
You still need help? I'll have to ring through SRRC, but I could get to it right quick if you need it.
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>>152985782
Nah, thanks, I've just beaten him a couple of minutes ago
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anyone have any cool lore theories?
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so what kind of trick weapons would you guys design? i would make dual scimitars that transform into chakrams when put together
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>>152987345
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>>152987345
more gunblades
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First time player here.

Decided to go Arcane and I'm currently level 40 and about to jump into a lake at some mansion since my friend told me to.

What should I expect?
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>>152987345
a claw like weapon that transforms into a kama with chain (kusarigama)
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>>152987761
getting raped for the rest of the game
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>>152987761
>arcane
>first playthrough
Sounds like you're doing alright though.

If you're unspoiled, then the best part of the game is about to begin. Boss there isn't too hard though.
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Why are the red eyed hunters respawning?
I thought they were like enemy hunters that don't come back?
Can't even farm them for vermin.
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>>152987761
>first time player
>arcane

You've unfortunately taken the hardest possible route for your first time, anon. Your best weapon will only be found at the end of the DLC. You'll also need to be grinding for the best gems to get the best damage from your spells and weapons.

But it's not possible! There is a guide for a good arc build, but it's pretty spoilery, so I'd honestly recommend just levelling whatever you want and having fun before starting serious builds.
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>>152988119
You mean the ones in the Nightmare? The normal hunters there are like standard enemies.
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>>152987345
a spiked mace similar to Tonitrus that you can extend with a long chain to make big swings.
I think there is a boss or enemy that has a similar weapon. I havent used the dlc weapon that I read might be simlar
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>>152987345
A khopesh that splits to turn into scissors. Slashy moves when in one hand, pokes when in two with the L2 being the BIG SNIP.
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>>152987761
Weak

Grind some more and pump up Arc to 99
Did you make sure to choose Cruel Fate as an Origin?
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Fat purple face guy near the start of Hunter's Nightmare. His roll catch fucks me. Please inform me.
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>>152991329
Parry him. That is about the only thing you can do to counter. Also run up and hit him when the cathedral doors are opening.
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>>152991329
Honestly just fucking run, my man
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So what would be the strength/arcane distribution for a hybrid build? Using the saw so far, working well.
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Can I still enjoy BB as much as everyone else if I spoiled myself bunch of bosses and stuff
I haven't seen LPs, but shit like boss rankings and gameplay clips and cutscenes. I hate myself for being impatient
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>>152991457
25 str/50 arc
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>trying to play DaS3 to justify spending 70 eurodollars on a digital game
>physically unable to enjoy it

[CAN'T WAKE UP]
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>>152991525
You can, trust me. I spoiled myself on all three endings and some of the biggest lore points, and it's still an amazing game to just experience.
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>>152991525
I was actually hugely spoiled going in because I never thought I'd be able to buy a PS4, so I watched an LP. It's still one of my favourites games of all time, but I wish I could have known so I could discover the twist myself. You're perfectly fine knowing, it's still an amazing game.
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>>152991447
I ran past him and got fucked by a firing squad.
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>>152988439
No i was talking about the stronger red eyed hunters that drop vermin.
Theyre respawning when they supposedly are one time kills.
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>>152991543
damn mnan builds in this game are weird, in dark souls those 2 would be flipped. with arcane that high should i also upgrade a tonitrus or wheel?
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>>152992578
Wheel is the better choice, also get the HMLS.
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>800k echoes
>build is finished
>vials and bullets at max
>all armor bought
What now
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>no qt doll to cuddle with
just
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>>152993050
Buy max of everything.
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>>152961901
Who was Paarl anyways? Was he one of Archibald's experiments or something? He drops the spark Hunter badge, so it might seem like it
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>>152991457
Use the Tonitrus for a 25STR 50 ARC build. That thing will fucking rape everything
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>>152992737
>>152993553
Well seems I'm going to have to beat Logarius to get the wheel, even with my beefed up saw (thanks DLC for all teh free chunks) he can still fuck me up. Also what is HMLS?
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>>152993806
Holy Moonlight Sword, you get it from talking to Ludwig's head with some kind of church-associated clothing on, or by killing it.

You could just kill Alfred to get the Wheel Hunter badge.
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>>152993806
>He doesn't know

I think it's best if you find out for yourself. Leave this place and don't come back until you've beaten everything the game has to offer, going in blind is one of the best experiences in vidya I've ever had.
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>farming FRC Isz's Bone Ash Hunter for good 23.1 bolt/fire/arc gems
F U N
U
N
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>>152994006
I never understood what all the fuss was about Bone Ash hunter gems. Aren't abyssals better? Or am I missing something?
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>>152993956
Oh fuck I just beat Ludwig on my dex account after a hundred tries I dont want to think of beating him again (although with a strength weapon it will probably be easier)
>>152993969
I've gotten to Laurence in the DLC, just forgot about the moonlight sword
Out of the wheel, whirlsaw, moonlight sword and tonitrus what should i spend my slab on though (when I get it)
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>>152994148
+9 fire saw spear tears Ludwig apart. Ask for help here if you need it too.

You can also get another rock from DLC, I'd spend the two on Wheel and Moonlight Sword, but it really depends on what you like more.
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>>152994148
PURGE FILTH WITH THE WHEEL
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>>152994130
You still need a 23.1 arcane gem for the uncanny parasite
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>>152994293
>>152994339
>2 votes for wheel
Guess it's time to embrace the wheel, Ill just get the whirlsaw to +9 for beast bosses I guess, because serrated weapons hurt beasts more right? I tore Paarl apart so fast with it +8 my fire paper didnt even run out
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>>152994148
Either Tonitrus or Holy Moonlight sword

I haven't really tried the wheel, so I wouldn't know
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My fuckers! Anyone need some co-op? Just +10'd and gemmed up a brand new Bloodletter and I wanna test it out.
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Does the blood half of the Chikage scale at all with skill? I feel like I want another skill weapon just to mix things up a bit but while I'm sure the zipped half of the Chikage is perfectly fine I don't really want to waste time getting half of a trick weapon to a decent level.
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>>152986851
Are the coffins in CDs the same os the ones in Yharnam? with the chains and locks
I spent my first playthrough wondering when i would get the item to open those up. I never found it and it doesn't exist
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>>152995801
I don't think it scales at all with scale. You'd only be using the untricked half, and it's not the most interesting moveset.
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>>152995738
Is that a good beast killer? I need to run through A. Loran.
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>>152996409
Bummer.

All I've got right now is the saw spear and the threaded cane and while both are perfectly fine I was just kind of wanting a third moveset to dick around with and I figured I might be able to snag it.

Guess I'll just wait for the blade of mercy then, I know this game has skill weapons it just feels like they're more back loaded than the strength ones (which you get all of for pretty much no effort after beating bosses you would anyway).
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>>152996474
Just put down a Bloodletting Beast with a random and it seemed to work well enough, gimme a pass dude
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>>152994448
senpai are you sure. I have those gems and an arcane build. I can try it out for you
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>>152996802
pass: bbbbg
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>>152994006
>Cursed Arcane gem
YES
>arcane up +23.1
YES
>add arcane atk +
YES
>hp depletes -9
FUCK NO
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>>152997047
Ringing in via SRRC, give me just a minute friend
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>>152996878
the best gem setup in the OP says so.
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>>152996758
Yeah, skill weapons are great fun, but it's a shame they take so long to get. Threaded cane is one of my favorite weapons though, so I don't really mind whenever I do a skill-based build.
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>>152996758
Im in your boat too with spear and cane.
Rifle spear is pretty good for some variety or you can rush to the saif right after amelia.
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>>152997096
>Tempering Damp Bloodgem
>Tempering Damp Bloodgem
>Murky Bloodgem
>Tempering Damp Bloodgem
>Arcane Bloodgem
>it's worse than the one you already have
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>>152999082
>you don't even have a good arcane gem yet ;_;
Of 22+ tries I have 1 good 23.1 fire gem and 2 decent 23.1 bolt ones
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Yo Julius did you get Abhorrent?
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>>153000202
yep, thanks!
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>>153000809
Glad to help! Sorry about the SRRC taking so long sometimes
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Is Doll falling asleep while standing a bug?
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Should I even bother with pvp if i'm not a Vileblood?
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>>153004275
You can PvP for its own sake as a multiplayer function, gets you insight and echoes
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>>152987345
This idea has ben on my mind for a while now.
Might need some tweaking thou.
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I've been stuck on Rom since launch day because I haven't had internet until now. Will someone please help me defeat him?
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>>153005392
>him

Nigga how the fuck can you not beat Rom?
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>>153005392
pass?
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>>153005682
Anon pls
>>153005790
2222
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>>153006032
i've rung
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>>153006365
I did it in front of the fog gate. I have never played online so I'm not too sure on how to really do it. I'm sorry for being retarded
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>>152999726
It's been nearly an hour and a half and I haven't got ANY single arcane gem from her
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>>152987345
Hunter's Spear

Untricked, medium range stabs and short slashes

Tricked, same quick stabs and slashes, but the L2 makes it so it's fit into an atlatl type device and becomes almost like a harpoon, you charge and throw the spear, and drag an enemy back to you in a staggered state. Costs one quicksilver bullet.
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Thank you anon for helping me defeat Rom. I'm not very good at these games and only got that far by myself.
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>>153007521
No worries man.
Rom was the first boss i needed help with too, on my 1st run.
Now Rom isn't much of trouble since i've gotten a good rythm with em'.
(And by rythm i mean, getting some powerfull blood gems to completely demolish em' with said gems, some bolt paper, and beast blood pellets)
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>>152988230

My arcane build has been going pretty nicely so far.

I'm using this Ludwig's Holy Blade which is pretty neato and a Tonitrus, both at +6.

My friend told me to go to the initial area of the DLC to get a Boom Hammer (or something like this) but I dunno if I should since I'm getting raped right off the bat there.

Also, ROM is dead, no more gameboy for him, the fight was the easiest so far, way easier than the one against the 3 faggots in the forest.
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>>153008262
Doing a few suicide runs through the DLC can be cool, since there's quite a few weapons just laying around that are great. Are you playing blind, and if so, what spells have you found so far?
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>>153008262
The way I understand it, the Boom Hammer is better as a physical weapon, but still, there's no harm in trying it out if you can get really good fire gems for it.
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Is LHB good for stunlocking a boss? Logarius, specifically.
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Whats a fun weapon to use? I've done axe/cane/saw/ludwigs playthroughs so far. Just got the dlc today
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>>153009291

I'm going pretty much blind.

>>153010486

I got it and it's kind of amazing. Not sure if it's better than the Tonitrus.

It has an amazing overpowered charged R2, but the rest is absolute shit, so it's basically a charged R2 exclusive weapon, specially since the buff has one hit only.

The tonitrus can be used normally since it's buff has a simple timer.

That being said, hitting strong mobs with that charged R2 with the boom hammer has just become my favorite thing to do in BB.
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>>153011334
I haven't used them all, and I specifically don't have any of the DLC weapons yet, but have you tried the stake driver? I find that fun.
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>>153011564
I tried it a bit but found the l1>r2 to be to impractical, i probably just need to git gud
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>>153011747
I haven't mastered it either but it seems like it should be cool with a bit of practice. I think that charged R2 was basically From trolling us though. That shit is too slow to use without getting hurt.
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>>153011538
The Boom Hammer is immensely fun to use, I like the normal attacks just fine, but that R2 is GREAT. Remember, you can dodge and attack, those are unique moves, as well transform attacks.

When you upgrade it, slot your best fire gems in there, if you're a pure arc build (or the closest you can be on a first playthrough), absolutely try and maximize the fire damage.
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Can anyone explain parrying in a way that makes sense, or link me to a video that can? It's the timing. I get the idea, but I don't know what's different between people I've watched video of who make it look easy, and what I'm trying to do. I'm pretty far into the game but I haven't cracked this one.
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>>153015231
Press l2 when they start an attack animation, bb has the easiest parries of any soulsborne game
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>>153015231
Parrying enemies is easy, you just shoot them when their attacking is coming at you, or often times right at the end of their windup. Against other players though, that's a crapshoot. If you're hoping to get consistent parries in PvP, you just have to pray the internet connection allows it.
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thinking about trying out pvp as a BL110 what weapons am I going to see the most
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>>153016827
Probably a lot of Rakuyos, Ludwig's' and Chikages. Same as any other mid-high level BL, really.
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>>153015974
>>153016548
Can you explain when to time it? I've made it work but it's about 50/50 against slow predictable enemies and less than 1/10 against anything with any speed. Like I said I'll watch a video and it looks like I'm trying to do exactly what they're doing. Just wondering if there's something I'm not seeing?
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>>153017438
The bullet has to connect when they're swinging towards you so have to get used to the timeing. Sometimes shots will just if you're standing at an akward position relative to the enemy
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>>153017438
Parry timing is different for every enemy, and different for every move on top of that. A big part of it is shooting when you feel it will parry, and if it doesn't, adjust your timing and try again. You could practice on, say, the axe guy in Central Yharnam. Just shoot him a lot, try to get parries but don't go for the visceral.
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>>153017712
I'm thinking I am shooting too early. I swear it looks just like successful parries I've watched but it's clearly something... I just watched a pretty good video that did some parries vs Logarius in slow motion. That was pretty good...
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>>153017965
>shooting when you feel it will parry
I'm going to try to take this one to heart. I might be overthinking the mechanics.
>axe guy in Central Yharnam
This is exactly where I first figured it out. Very different from faster target though.
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Anybody got some cool HD wallpapers?
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>>153018350
this is the one i'm using right now
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>>153018629
>Floating Wheel
>The other Wheel isn't in the image

What the dick
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Haven't played in months. Saturday FC still a thing? Which one are we in ?
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>>153018629
here take this one instead
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>>153019046
there's a finished version of that pic posted in the last thread

also can you imagine how awful a fight against 4 Executioners at once would have been as an NPC Hunter encounter?
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>>153018350
W H E E L
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>>153019463
Would have loved covenant specific events.

>choose Vileblood
>go to the beginning of Cainhurst, the broken bridge
>four executioners await you

Or
>choose Executioner
>Annalise becomes hostile
>Vilebloods defending her throne


Idk man. Would've been neat.
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What level should I be for the Hunter's Nightmare, and is it meant to be done with a friend?
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>>153019052
We generally make a quick vote every Saturday on which chalice we go to
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>>153019675
Did I miss it?
I'd like to try and git gud again.
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Anybody up for Orphan of Kos? I am but a simple broccoli man seeking my due.

Pass is broccoli.
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>>153020092
At the fog?
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>>153020235
Yup.
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Am i wasting my time trying to farm chunks for stake driver on a pure str build?
Planning to pop a heavy abyssal and tempering abyssals all hoping for vs open foes as secondary.
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>>153019671
It's generally regarded as endgame content, you could be near your personal level limit (98, 112, 117, whatever your preferred pvp/co-op level limit is), I'd recommend around that because it's bastard hard.
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>>153020235
Thanks for that. I've been playing awful all afternoon, I dunno what's wrong.
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>>153020879
You already get help? Darn.

Lookin' for some coop or pvp and my 98 is rusty.
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>>153019789
Not at all, just lurk around tomorrow, we'll be posting about it! They've been a bit short as of late, some people not showing up. I'm trying to turn up but it's on at an awkward time for me.
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>>153020879
no problem man
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>>153020805
Stake Driver shines as a strength weapon now that heavy abyssals are a thing. Provided you're 50/25 or higher, your damage will be out of control.

Why damage versus open foes though? I know it has a counterhit bonus, but I think the raw damage would probably be better, wouldn't it?
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>>153020963
Hell yeah. I'll be there and I'll even be square.

Did we drop the discord chat too?
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>>153019675
Where do we vote?
does an anon post a strawpoll b4 hand?

>cant wait to OUTSKILL[/Spoiler] your asses
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>>153020841
I did a chunk of the early area at level 48, but when I spotted the ticks, I noped out.
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I wanna make a new character whats a good build for the wheel
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>>153021076
>>153021319
>discord

Ssshh we don't talk about that went downhill real bad and is literal 24/7 shitposting

>vote
Either we just decide in-thread or someone makes a strawpoll, both have happened. Sometimes it's someone just saying WE IN ISZ NIGGERS and we're in Isz.
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>>153021753
STR WHEEL IS THE ONLY WHEEL.

UNLESS YOU WANT TO CHEESE WITH ARC
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>>153021753
I did an arcane build that was really fun. The Witch and the Wheel.
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>>153021636
Funnily enough, the lickers there aren't nearly as tough as their Cainhurst counterparts for some reason. They can be tough, and especially there in such a tight spot because they spam their blood shot attacks and stunlock you to death or you get killed by the rapid poison build up.

But physically, they're actually weaker. You can just about run past them anyway.
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>>153021753
My latest build was a low-level Executioner, running 25/25 str/arc at BL56. Use him for invading in Cainhurst and the invasion rate is actually super quick, provided it's the right time of day. At that low of level with nourishing gems, you can use both forms of the Wheel with good efficiency, and if you need to, you can still whip out the 600 damage dash attack spam.
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>>153021061
50/25 eh? My build only has 14 skl, shouldn't be too much of a difference.
I have a few sets of 27.2s that I want to compare pvp dmg with the open foes dmg. Im imagining crazy counter dmg if the stake has the bonus.
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>>153021846
>discord
Ofc it went to shit. It wasn't that bad when we first started though. Had some good comments and camaraderie
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>>153022036
If you only have 14 skill, you want to run two heavy abyssals instead of just one.
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>>153022024
from one low-leveled executioner to another.
where did you invade in Cainhurst?
The Lamp?
Library?
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>>153022165
Thanks for the tip but I was noticing that church pick didn't really have much of an increase with a second abyssal, it was like 2 ar unless i popped in one with a secondary of +15. Maybe it'll be different with the stake driver.
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>>153022264
Right at the top of the first set of steps, in that little groove behind the two candelabra. Alternatively in front of the fountain, though inside the castle is a bigger area than outside, so you'll get more action.
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>>153022383
>abyssal
What is this? I keep seeing you guys talk about abyssals.
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>>153022625
Abyssals are a branch of Gems, that greatly increases how your weapons scale, with a single stat.
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did you guys ever find guidance tier 3????
Haven't played in months.
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Haven't played in months and just got the DLC. I feel like I'm in for an ass kicking.
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>>153025472
Blood level? I'm starving for pvp. I'll
Make it fun for you.
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Does anyone want to coop? I haven't beaten the game yet
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>>153025567
Stopped at 100. Not really in the mood to play tonight though
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>>153025736
I'm up for another hour. Run it m8
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>>153025773
Can always help you through it.
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>>153025361
Nope I have 2 Guidance tier 1 runes tho
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>>153025993
? How? Can you get multiples of the same per playthrough?
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>>153026039
You get the same one twice, I think someone at From fucked up
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>>153025862
I'll be up all night. I'm at the Yhargul lamp, post Rom. Pass is 4321
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>>153025870
I'm good. Soloed the whole game so far, NG+ and chalices as well. Just never got the DLC. Lack of practice and hearing about the challenge of Old Hunters sounds like the nightmare will begin again. Should be fun.

Appreciate the offer though. Gregor is that you?
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>>153026039
Idk m8 it's odd

>>153026131
On my way
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>>153026242
it was Gregor the whole time!

Kidding. It's not.
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>>153022625
>>153023075
Heavy and Sharp gems increase your scaling with Str/skl respectively.
Abyssals are the highest rating you can get.
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Can you parry the Chikage unzip?

Fucking BLT builds are such shit.
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Jesus Christ that was fun. How do you got those weapons and those Pyramid Heads?
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>>153027628
use this on the filthy Vilebloods
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EDDIE WHY
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>>153027997
From an NPC questline my friend, I forgot his name unfortunately I haven't played in a while
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my friend sent me this vid it seems a little biased agaonst executioners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfCP3U-GdHs
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>>153028172
I'd love to get that equipment if you wanna team up
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>>153028285
ARE WE DOING GLORIOUS COOPERATION?

WHEEL WENCH WANTS IN
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>>153028285
That'd be gr8 m8, I'm Silver btw.
Pick the next lamp!
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>>153028327
>>153028379
Absolutely. Where do I ring my bell?
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>>153028428
Well from the college you can exit to an optional area which is downstairs or the main story which is the upstairs doot
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>>153028546
I'm at the Lecture building after touching the corpse.
Pass is 4321
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>>153028753
Friend, I don't believe you can ring there however I'm on my way
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>>153028830
I just noticed you can't. I'm in the Nightmare now. I haven't got this far yet. Pass is the same
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>>153028884
Haha alright
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>>153028031
man my health just dissapeared right there

>>153027997
>Kill Witch of Hemwick

>Go to Forbidden Woods
>Find Dog Cages
>Find Hidden Path close to Dog Cages
>Enter Cave
>Cave has poison lake (Just hug the right wall and your through)
>Climb 2 LOOOONG ladders
>Enter Building from backside
>Get Cainhurst Summon <-(Important Shit right here!)

>Go to Hemwick Charnel Lane
>Go to the spire-like monument where the Executioners are
>Trigger Cutscene
>Accept what the Cutscene offers you
>NEW AREA UNLOCKED!!

>Clear the area
>Pick up Pieces of the Armor set on the way
>Beat the boss
>Get "Unopened Summons" after boss
>Give to Alfred (he's in cathedral ward just before the Password door to the Forbidden Woods)
>He gives you badge
>You can now buy Wheel and Pyramid-Helm at the messengers
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>>153028884
Do you have two cooperators? Am ringing my bell in the NF.
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>>153028981
Oh I've got to the Castle but I haven't been able to beat the frost king guy.
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>>153029107
Just the one
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>>153029198
You guys are progressing to Amygdala, yeah? Through the poison swamp and flesh beasts?
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>>153029247
No m8 other nightmare. I died reringing lol
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>>153029247
We were at the lighthouse but he died. I haven't beat the Amygdala yet in that nightmare.
We can wait on you.
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>>153029301
Which one, Nightmare of Mensis? Frenzy brain?
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>>153029301
>>153029329
Ringing at lighthouse with pass of 4321
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>>153029340
Herbert I'm sorry there was a bit of lag.
That ayy fucked me
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What the fuck was that thing?
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>>153029501
Lmfao we call them "ayys"
It's a boss weapon and a special rune both from the dlc
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>tfw got the meme wheel and thunder stick
Damn these are the best strength/arcane weapons? Movesets are kind of boring, and Im really bad at managing a self inflicted poison status even after doing a chikage run
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Shit. Should probably take off my HoH rune. Okay one sec.
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>>153029697
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>>153029826
How does the moonlight sword work in this game anyway? Does it just have a steroid like the memewheel? May just end up using it though because it will be a while before I seriously attempt Ludwig again
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>>153029920
It's the best fucking rendition of the sword in any souls game yet.
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>>153029920
>May just end up using it though
Have to specify talking about Logarius's wheel, because obviously you have to beat Ludwig to get Moonlight sword
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Wow he cracked me with his licorice whips out of hands
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>>153029920
HMS has two/three scaling. STR ARC and SKL.

I use it in my quality 40/25 STR/SKL and base of 14ARC. With nourishing gems it's amazing in tricked and untricked forms.

Only a 50Arc build, beams do massive damage. But that's all they do in ARC, doesn't add a whole lot of swing/weapon damage, purely beam damage.
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>>153030357
Haha yeah don't feel bad, he even gestures after he kills you
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>>153030423
Y'all fighting Micolash Cage?
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>>153030507
Nah, that shitter right after giant spooder
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>>153030372
>Only beams do arcane
Yeah guess I will just use wheel then, want to raise my arcane high since I didnt use hunter tools in my first playthrough
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>>153030563
The spy.

Pass? I'll help progress if you want.
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Should I stick to my weapon now or attempt to get the wheel weapon?
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>>153030658
use the katana
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>>153030576
The sword benefits from high Arcane all around, it's just that the beams only benefit from Arcane. Even one-handed with 25 Strength and 12 Skill it'll still hit hard if you have 50 Arcane. Two-handed benefits from Arcane more than untricked just like the Wheel, and it's devastating if you hit with both the sword and beams at the same time.
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>>153030754
So, if soulsborne characters were real, Micolash would totally browse 4chan wouldn't he?
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>>153030908
so would Gehrman
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>>153030908
Mico would only browse /x/
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Anybody farming and want some company? I could use the chunks
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>>153030908
I think he would browse /trash/
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Herbert I'll give him one more try and I gotta go m8
It's been fun
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>>153031513
Do you mind helping me beat Logarrius instead?
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>>153031624
I would love to but I haven't accessed that area yet
Can you give me time to get there?
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>>153031735
Yeah no problem
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>>153031787
Be there in less than 5
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>>153031787
Ringing m8
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>>153032427
We are sitting at the fog gate
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>>153032519
Oh shit gotta run there
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Rate my Lucy Liu, Herbert.
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>>153032623
9/10 would transplant into a robot
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>>153032645
Great success. Thanks man.
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That was fucking awful I apologize
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Reringing at the fog if you guys didn't make it out
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>>153032924
It's okay. Lucy Liu carried.
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>>153032812
It's fine, thank you for all the co op
>>153032997
Thank you so much. I've had a lot of trouble fighting him and I thought he was end game
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>>153033072
Orphan has a few words to say about "end game"
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>>153032997
Goddamn, GG Wenchy
Goodnight dude and good luck
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>>153033115
I'm not going to sleep yet. Gf still up packing for college. Killing time while she does her thing.


If anyone else needs coop, post a pass in the thread with a lamp area.
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>>153033218
I AM SLEP
>gf
Good luck with that :^)
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>>153033307
Sleep tight friendo
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So should I say the Vileblood Oath or no?
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>>153033446
Are you scum?

yes, get the covenant it doesn't affect anything at all. Just don't equip it, for cooperation sake. Never know if you'll summon an executioner, and they'll be hostile[\spoiler]
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>>153033446
You know there's only one answer.
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>>153033446
Confederate4lyfe bb, do you really want to be part of the same group as that fag Crowsteel?
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Okay, I finally joined the Covenant but I can't afford the pyramid head. I'm also at Micolash if anyone wants to co op. I haven't beat Darkbeast Carl or Amygdala yet if those sound more fun to you.
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>>153034536
What covenant rune are you wearing?
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>>153035095
Executioner
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>>153035209
Where you at? Whats the password!
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>>153035209
I'll be right there, just give the pass.
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>>153035425
>>153035370
Gimme a second, I'm grabbing some apples to eat
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Mergo Loft:Base
Pass is 4321
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>>153036042
Ringing.
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Where does Gehrman fuck off to all the time?
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>>153036251
Sometimes he's having a nap out back
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>>153036120
Woops. Have actually never seen him do that before. Ringing again if you don't get him.
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>>153036251
He goes to the tree and browses /r9k/ and bitches about how he was too beta to date Maria
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>>153036387
Wew. I got him to the second fight but he shot me with lasers instead.
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>>153036835
If you want the arc build I'm using can cheese the hell out of him from above in the second phase, but I'd rather not go right to that.

Ringing again.
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>>153036957
Sorry, it's the middle of the night for me and I'm really tired. I'll give it another go but I don't think I'll be much help after that.
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>>153037175
Thank you man. I managed to snipe him right at the end
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>>153037175
Did you get him. I'll give it another try, feeling a bit better after that.
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>>153037576
Nice. I gotta get some sleep now, but the rest of Mensis is a lot easier than the first half. At your level Paarl and Amygdala should be pretty easy too.
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Mergos Loft Middle
Pass is 4321
Just got invaded by some Vileblood
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Where is the best place to invade lower level players?
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>>153038802
Cathedral ward/forest, if there's still anyone left to invade.
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>>153038945
I just invaded a guy who had two companions. They ganked me into a fucking corner
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>>153039065
Everyone you invade will have co-operators at low levels. That's have invasions work.
>>
Anybody playing right now?
>>
ded game
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>>153043113
;_;
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>>153039065
>>153039157
I imagine the worst ones would be either Forbidden Forest right before the Shadows, and Bob's Burgers, as besides the normal Player summons one can have, both areas have a lot of NPC Summon Signs that could be abused for those purposes(if I've got the rules for summoning right, you could potentially have 4 allies in Forbidden Woods, and 5 in Bob's Burgers)
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John Bloodborne waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were beasts in the dream. He didn't see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Gerhman were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway. John was a Hunter for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the hunts and he said to dad "I want to be in the hunts daddy..."
Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY GREAT ONES!" There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in the Hunters Dream he knew there were beasts.
"This is Gerhman" the message appeareed. "You must fight the Beasts!"
So John gotted his Ludpiercing rifle and blew up the wall.
"HE GOING TO KILL US" said the beasts
"I will shoot at him" said Djura and he fired the Gatling Gun. John Bloodtinged at him and tried to visceral him up. But then the ceiling fell and they were trapped and not able to kill.
"No! I must kill the Beasts!" he shouted
The message said "No, John. You are the beasts"
And then John was a slug.
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anyone need any help?
>>
I'm stuck at the orphan for a week now, no other boss was this hard of a roadblock for me.
My main problem is, that I can't find a good way to dodge the placenta-juice-projectiles in phase two, the ones he throws while jumping. It seems every time it's completely random if I get hit or not.
Anyone got any tips?
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>>153046785
set a password and summon me or git gud
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>>153047634
Thanks, I think I'll try the latter
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Anyone wanna help me at the orphan?
Pass: abort
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>>153049245
ringing in 3 minutes
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>>153049272
Thanks, I'm at the foggate
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>>153049352
ringing
set matching regions to worldwide pls
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>>153049501
Thanks a lot
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>>153049352
anymore help you need?
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>>153049767
Nah, I'm good, I only wanted the parasite
>>
So i was just doing the chalice dungeons. Up untill i encountered Rom at the bottom of the lower phutumerian chalice dungeon layer 3. Why is that fucker there? Why?
>>
H-H-hi, I'm new to Bloodbourne.
I'm struggled up to Rom alone because fuck PSN subscription.
But the beasts before Rom wreck my shit. What level should I be? I'm still using the starting ax, leveled up to +5.
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>>153053135

That is not Rom
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>>153031096
Is that Lucy wearing the Mensis cage? The irony is too strong.

Lori is the best anyway.
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>>153053421
>Bloodbourne
return the game please
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>>153055109
That wasn't very nice

As for the guy needing help, I have no clue m8. It's normal to struggle I guess, use bolt paper
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>>153055109
Fuck you I'm British. It's habit.
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Imagine if cursed gems had a chance to break upon death
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>>153055701
DELETE THIS
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>>153026039
You get it every time you kill that fucking crow.
>>
Do you all leave notes?

I left Despicable Metamorphosis in front of Ioefeska.
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Anyone up for Isz Eribritas? Pass is bbg

I'm getting a new character through the Chalice's and this fight always gives me trouble, especially when I have no source of Thrust/Bolt damage.
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>>153057813
omw
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>>153057983
> fog wall appeared
> disappeared again

Fuck the SRRC is a piece of shit.
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>>153058289
I can try ringing directly at the 3rd layer lamp
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>>153058380
That's where I am.

If you see a ghost with Beast Cutter and Gattling gun, that's me.
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Fog walls have appeared and vanished 3 times now.
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>>153058469
Yeah, I see you
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>>153053421
>only at +5
Go kill yourself mate.
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>>153058701
This is really weird, the fog gate has been active since my last post but you still havnt joined.
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>>153053421
About 40-50 for Rom. You should be able to get a +6 from the twin shards in the Woods, so look around there a bit more.
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>>153059138
I dunno if it's problem with me or with Bloodborne but it always takes me a while to get summons/summoned, despite I never had any similar issues with other Souls games
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>>153059364
This has never happened to me before, the fog wall blocking the elevator has been up for 10+ minutes even when I silence and re-ring the Bell.

I'm just going to try do it solo, sorry for wasting your time.
>>
So what's everybody doing?
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>>153059364
>>153059620
You guys on routers?
Check your nat, you want it on open.
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>>153059979
farming gems
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>>153059979
Waking myself up while considering which build I should start/continue the chalice grind with.
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>>153059979
Gonna eat food and then listening to podcasts while I co-op with randoms, hoping this Bloodletter wasn't a waste of a blood rock
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>>153057465
Who doesn't leave notes?

But you should leave thrust attack is effective in front of Fauxsefka.
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>>153053421
You mean the spooky big headed fuckers? Look around for some Twin Bloodstone Shards and get that Axe to +6, also stock up on Bolt Paper. You'll need it.
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>>153060676
What gems you farming?
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>>153065319
27.2 arc from watchers
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>>153065402
I was trying for 27.2 fire earlier from Isz, boring as fuck though.
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>>153065402
>>153065480
Aren't 24.8% +15 abyssals better though?
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>>153065752
I've heard differing stories. I'm so full of the 'tism that I'll probably try and farm a top tier gem of both and then compare, after having to get a triangle and waning +65 ARC respectively.
>>
Any of your fuckers need some co-op?
>>
WE
WUZ
GREAT ONES
AN SHIIET
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>>153067326
What kind of co-op you prepared to do m80?
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>>153067792
You wanna clear out Cainhurst? Let's go. You wanna clear the Loran Chalices? Let's GO. You wanna run through the first goddamn half of the game? Let's fucking go boyo.
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>>153068121
I'm going to be on in about 30-45 minutes, if you're still here I'd be up for some co-op
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>>153068487
Yeah, I should be here by then, just message me when you're on
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What do y'all think of pthnumeru fc today?
Caught some anons complaining they dont have the later chalices awhile back.
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>hotdogs charge is just one giant fucking OHK hitbox

You can even stand behind him, it's instant death for 360 degrees
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>>153069410
It's also super simple to dodge. Literally just roll sideways.
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>>153069515
I know, but goddamn, there's range on that fucking thing all around his body

I keep dying on my beckoners and I feel dumb
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>>153069410
Hotdog's charge is child's play.
Ebreitas' charge? Fucking nightmare.
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>>153069593
It's nearly the same shit. As long as you don't stand in front of her, you don't even need to worry
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>>153064781
>not thrust attacking the statues in cainhurst
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>>153069898
A single dodge isn't enough for ebreitas though and she doesn't telegraph it anywhere near as clearly as hotdog.
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>>153070148
Nigga, just constantly circle to your right when you fight her
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>>153018629
i literally started a new file for the purpose of imitating that woman's design. gonna suicide run cainhurst for the knight outfit/reiterpallsach as soon as i have access
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Anyone know how to tone down the light on the PS4 controller for longer battery life?
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>>153073262
Go in settings and accessories or something, it has 3 levels of brightness IIRC.
Though I just bought a usb-micro usb braided cable from eBay and play with it wired.
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>>153073429
Ah, found it! Thank you, anon.
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>new character
>get to watchdoggy in pthbbbbbbt
>remember I'm using a fire weapon
>hitting for a whopping 26 damage
>murder him with ebrietas
GG
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Well, I've been posting in here about getting my ass kicked by Logarius the last two days in a row, and you guys were trying to tell me to parry him, and I just finally figured out the timing. That was ALMOST easy once I got that down. I mean I still used 18 of 20 blood vials but whatever. Thanks /bbg/.
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>>153076153
What level were you? Need to assess just how much of a scrub you've been.
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>>153076423
Too high, according to at least one anon here. 74...

I thought the last few bosses were easy. I killed the shadows first try, and I figured Rom out pretty fast. I just took forever to get a handle on this asshole for some reason.
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>>153076582
I'd hate to see how you tackle the chalice dungeons or the DLC anon.
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>>153076729
I mostly just suck at parrying. The bosses who I get stuck on and the bosses who are "omg noob just parry so easy lol" are the same ones. Also asshole at least I haven't been ringing in help like a fag.
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Does anybody want some co-op?
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>>153076729
...but you're right though, I have been to the Nightmare and it didn't go well.
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>>153077002
>Also asshole at least I haven't been ringing in help like a fag.
No, you've just been whining here for the last several days asking for help on a boss you're overleveled for
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>>153077240
There was at least one other fag stuck at the same point here the last few days. Not sure how whiny he was but I was just asking questions dawg.
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/bb/g/ can do better than this, right?
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>>153079809
The drawings are nice but the ideas behind them seem lame.
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>>153077079
Wanna take on the defiled hotdog?
>>153079809
no, but these are some shitty ideas
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>>153071645
>reiterpallasch
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>>153080630
>Wanna take on the defiled hotdog?

Not that guy, but sweet lord I'll help, it's the least a decent human being can do
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>>153080630
I'll help as well. Set a pass and I'll get ringing.
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>>153081354
>>153081554
Ringing now, pass is benis
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>>153081653
On my diddly darn way
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>>153082219
Fuck, I just see fog wall constantly reappearing. I'll try resetting the router along with ps4 and then I'll ring again
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>>153082828
Alright m8, I'm still ringing!
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>>153082828
Ringing again
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>>153077240
I don't understand why this is such a big issue for people. You learn the game by dying over and over again until it clicks. Like, no shit people get stuck for long periods that's how Soulsborne *works.*

Level is... not irrelevant, but this ain't some jrpg bullshit where you get trivialize Sephiroth because you have 999 in every stat. Learning the patterns are way more important, and even then you can still get fucked by the camera.
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>>153083160
Not picking you up, man
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>>153082941
Sorry
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>>153083972
>even then you can still get fucked by the camera
The camera in Bloodborne could be a lot worse than it is, but it could also be a lot better.
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Ringing again
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fc WHEN
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>>153084656
It's not unplayable by any means. But the combination of very large, very fast enemies is something no action game has ever really perfected. Monster Hunter has the same issue.

This is why games like Bayonetta tend to do wide-open, unobstructed arenas with enemy AI that doesn't attack from off-camera.
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>>153085341
Yeah I agree, Bloodborne does it better than most. Ninja Gaiden had kind of a cool camera honestly although I remember some people hating on it. I haven't played Monster Hunter.
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Thanks for the help guys. Sorry that both times you got summoned I already started the fight, Tobias
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>summon Younger Madara Twin
>first invasion
>die to a brain sucker
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>>153085984
Glad to help m8, no worries about the wonky summoning
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Am I gitting gud or is blood damage good against Amy?
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Mergos Loft Middle
Pass is 4321

Please perform cooperation
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>>153088679
Commencing cooperation
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>>153088679
Bumping this please, I keep getting invaded
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>>153088679
I'll join as well
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Just killed the second boss in NioH, feeling pretty good.
Anyone want some chalice dungeon co-op or anything?
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MOTHERFUCKER

DON'T YOU GO TO WET NURSE WITHOUT ME
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>>153090386
I haven't beat the optional bosses yet either
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Is all damage from the axe considered blunt damage? Or at least most attacks?
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Well shit. Hold on, gonna ring again
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Rang again, same password. I finally made the roll through the cage
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>>153091202
so we'll ring at the window then?
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>>153091202
Where should we ring, dude?
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>>153092343
I'm starting Upper Cathedral Ward now to get the gesture
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>>153092343
The Brain has already ben dropped
and with that ,heres ben a change of plans
We're gonna go to UCW
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Ringing, right after you enter UCW
Pass is 4321
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FC in loran tonight faggots be there or be square
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>get invaded
>cocksucker was intangible and barely visible
The hell.
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>>153057465
yeah I leave notes

if anyone has seen the "treat Doll with care" note next to the Doll in the Dream, that's one of mine
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>>153057465
I do occasionally, one has over 100 ratings
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Ringing, just beat a bunch of purple pop tart monsters
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>>153093867
K
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>>153090680
Anyone?
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That thing was insane looking. Thank you for helping me, you basically did all the work.
I gotta go but I'll be back on later tonight
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Sorry for silencing out, Herbert, something came up
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>>153094760
Ebby-Ebby is ded now.
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>>153093748
Blue Elixir, mayhaps.
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>>153090680
>>153094365
iirc the poke attack in 2H is considered Blunt but I am fairly sure most of the attacks are not.
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>>153095929
I see. I also got one-shotted.

Then killed by one of Rom's little bastards.

After beating her, would the be a good time to try some of the DLC?
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>>153096813
What level are you? DLC is endgame.
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>>153096813
DLC is level 70+ desu, I think the guide recommends 80+, but I've done it at lower with shit equip. Also, it's hella fun with cooperators.

I guess the Bloodmoon wouldn't be a bad time to do the DLC, in fact, you could just do it now. It's really fun, but really difficult.
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>>153095980
Huh that's funny, if anything I'd have guessed exactly the other way around.
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So guys is it worthwhile to blow some points in arcane and bloodtinge just for the sake of meeting all of the weapon prereqs so I can fuck around with all of them or is that a waste? I have both of those attributes at 7 currently but I have some weapons that require 10-12 or so, and then I have a few magic items requiring 15 arcane. This is a strength/quality build like most first timers. Use the points for shits and giggles or hold off until a later character?
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>>153097956
There's really no reason not to if you want to do it. You won't be able to use them as you would in a dedicated build, but if it's just seeing what their movesets are and how they handle it'll work just fine.
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>>153097956
For a first playthrough, who cares? You've probably already ruined your character in terms of being optimized for any meta.
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>>153098182
This is what I figured, thanks.
>>153098187
>being optimized for any meta
What do you mean here, familia?
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>>153099060
>meta
The pvp meta. Generally /bbg/'s builds stop at blood level 98. It's mainly just to avoid 120s and up, and making a build that's over bl110 isn't really fun since there's only six stats to level.
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>>153099060
There's certain levels people stick to for PvP (the only reason to care about your levels) so if are planning a specific build, you want to maximize your stats for that level/build. So no levels wasted in unnecessary stats.

For a first time playthrough or purely PvE character, none of that matters.
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>>153099264
>>153099301
If it doesn't matter for PvE then cool I won't worry about it but why do you avoid leveling up for PvP? Not sure I understand that part.

Semi-related, are the arcane items good? I rarely see them mentioned on here. The only discussion of arcane I think I have noticed is that apparently it makes Logarius' Wheel pretty tits?
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>>153100493
The Hunter Tools are awesome, Arcane is entirely worth making a build for. You can slot fire, bolt, and arcane gems into weapons to make them scale with arcane, and you can use the Holy Moonlight Sword to its full potential too.
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>>153100493
You avoid leveling for PvP because matchmaking with other players is based on your level range.
Arcane items are very good, but only with arcane. Some tools don't require any arcane to be useful, like beast roar, knocks enemies down and doesn't gain anything more from higher ARC, so people generally get 15 ARC to use it.
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>>153100493
>If it doesn't matter for PvE then cool I won't worry about it but why do you avoid leveling up for PvP? Not sure I understand that part.

Well, because there are certain player who level up to, say, 200. They have 50 in every stat(which is hardcap for some stats) therefor being an incredibly unbalanced build.

So, for PvP, you want a meta to where you actually build a character around a weapon type.

/bbg/ meta is 98, which allows for 50 of your preferred main stat(strength, etc) and 25 for a soft cap stat. And it allows 50 in VIT(?) for the stat cap of health.


basically, you can now have a 98 that has 50 in STR or SKL, or ARC, or BLT. And a soft stat of their choice, and the best(?) amount of HP. 98 is the golden level as well, because it avoids invasion range of level 150's, who have hella stupid stats. While 98 also allows you to invade players level 70+ I believe.
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>>153101080
Once again, this is purely for PvP.

Your PvE/spelunking characters are advised to be godtier and broken, because that's fun in its own way
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>>153101080
50 is a softcap, 99 is a hardcap.
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>>153101246
>Your PvE/spelunking characters are advised to be godtier and broken

I would say to not go too crazy if he cares about co-op, even with passwords he'll be scaled like crazy.
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>>153101338
Ah, yeah I guess that's also true. But spelunking and co-op are kind of bad, once you clear a layer you've got to ring again, or worse, SRRC.

My opinion, of course.

>>153101313
Right, I wasn't too sure. I always though that for STR/SKL/BLT the hardcap was 50, soft is 25.
ARC scales hard again after 70, no?
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>>153101576
I'm pretty sure the Hunter Tools all have good scaling with Arc to 99, but I don't know for certain.
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What's the lore on living faliures?
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>>153101673
>>153101576
Not him, but hunter tools scale to 50, then 70, then 99.
For weapons, people generally go 25 or 50
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>>153101576
Arc after 50 greatly affects only hunter tools, for weapons damage increase after 50 arc is still miserable
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>>153101727
Presumably they're just what they say. Failed experiments conducted by the church, no doubt in order to evolve humanity or to communicate with the great ones. Possibly in an attempt to create the celestial emissary, or Rom.
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>>153101727
I don't know why you're asking for your life story.
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>>153101673
>>153101783
>>153101898
Makes sense, after 50 ARC affects Hunter Tools greatly, and weapon damage minorly. Thanks anons, learned something new.
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>>153101943
>>153101928
what about celestial emissaries too, my lore is foggy at the ayylmao stuff
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>>153102187
My understanding is the celestial emissary was created to bridge the gap between the choir and ebreitas and it was from their knowledge learned from ebreitas that they were able to create rom or use the blood or something.
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if i were to level just one stat on my character, which one would make for the most fun build
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>>153102364
endurance obviously
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>>153102342
Celestial Emissaries are the "final" or "success" form of Living Failures. Living Failures were a step before Celestial Emissaries.
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>>153102342
Yeah, the Choir made them to facilitate contact with the Great Ones. The process used is debatable, but I imagine it had to do with Ebrietas's blood. It'd be the most portable method, so it would allow False Iosefka to still make Emissaries even when away from the Upper Ward.
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>>153102364
Just one stat? Arcane. ARC tools scale to 99 AND don't lose any damage when level scaling comes in to play with co-op.
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>>153102512
Since kin are separate from beasts, I would wager that they create these experiments using insight instead of the blood.
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FC
W H E N
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>>153101727
>>153101943
Kek we have the definition of low hanging fruit, here.
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>>153102450
I dunno. Maybe mugenmonkey is broken but it says stamina remains at the same quantity (160) at 40 and onwards.
>>153102551
Could be nice.
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>>153102850
it's been going for about 2 hours now goober>>153093745
>>153099109
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>>153102850
Since about an hour and a half ago in Loran my man.
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Is Chikage good or do only weeaboo faggots use it?
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>>153103164
It's good unless you suck. It's not an EZwin OP weapon like the saws are.
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>>153102551
>AND don't lose any damage when level scaling comes in to play with co-op
Oh wow. Good to know.
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>>153103083
You still get the resistance bonuses after the 50 end
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>>153103164
only weeb faggots use it
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>>153103315
Also can wield kos parasite and go full ayylmao because it only needs 20 arc, no other stats.
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>>153103251
How are the saws OP? I'm not asking because I think you're wrong, I am just not very familiar with them so I wouldn't know.
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Did you ppay Nioh yet, /bbg/? It's like bloodborne in bad
Still a but fun though
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>>153102706
I agree, I'm just not really sure how that would work. Like how would False Iosefka be able to change everyone you send to the clinic?Unless she dragged a bunch of skulls down with her.
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I haven't played in months. I'm glad my wheel still crushes you fucks.
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>>153103317
But it's not the same, I want to be able to run away endlessly in pvp.
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>>153103514
Perhaps it has something to do with paleblood?
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>>153103485
I've done everything the beta has to offer. It's fun, but honestly, a lot of it feels like the developers are thinking "what's the worst enemies in Souls games and how do we make them worse?"

I enjoy it, but I always just feel like I'd be having more fun playing Bloodborne instead.
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>>153103472
Fast, huge hitboxes, can always you your gun, the roll/dash r1s are great in both forms for both saws
they're just super optimal for the kind of pvp in this game despite not beng able to two shot like a blunt LHB or chikage
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>>153103485
You should spell check yourself when you're drunk, anon. But no I haven't. One of my friends was telling me it was really promising though.
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>>153103472
The R1's are lightning fast, and the dash L1 is actually instant. On top of that the things hit like trucks, and you always have your gun open for parries.

Like if you're fighting a saw user and they're not mentally ill you have to do everything perfectly or lose. Hell, you can parry the dash L1 and still lose because it hits so fast it'll deal damage before registering that you parried it and it'll hit for around 60% of your health at 50vit.
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So /bbg/, you guys played the NioH beta yet? Thoughts? I jumped right back into BB and started mashing X to dodge and got fucked up.
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>>153103586
You can slap all 3 stamina runes to have whopping 242 stamina
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>>153103623
>paleblood
But that would just be blood again. Perhaps it was something made using Ebrietas's blood as the base, though we can see clearly that her blood is red.

Exactly how the Choir does their stuff is probably one of the biggest mysteries it seems, everything else has been figured out for the most part.
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>>153103485
>>153103895
Shit, beat me to it.
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>>153103961
>>153103586
I refuse to believe someone has ever done this. How would you even play through the game like this?

And like if you're doing the full stamina thing you'd have to get HoH and I don't think it's possible to kill the crow with no health and no damage.
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>>153103775
I always feel like I would have fun playing the second dlc for bloodborne instead.
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>>153104139
Csumables and gravity
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>>153104008
Ebreitas' blood is white, and I believe all kin have white blood. It's only red when she spews it at you, which makes me think it's not actually blood she's projecting at you.

>>153104139
Why? BL4 is possible, only levelling stamina would just make the game easier. Entirely possible.
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>>153104139
>I refuse to believe someone has ever done this
Somebody post the END yourself pic.
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>>153103485
I didn't play the alpha, but I played the beta for two hours then thought "Wow, I'd rather be playing Dark Souls 2", and promptly went back to Bloodborne.
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>>153104139
There was a shitposter around here who did the endurance build
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>>153104139
>>153104252
>>153104291
You rang?
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>>153104268
>Wow, I'd rather be playing Dark Souls 2
Really? I didn't think it was that bad. I enjoyed it much more than DaS2. I don't really like the diablo loot system and the combat feels shallow (just bait attacks and punish them) and when there's multiple mobs, you've got practically no chance since some have huge poise.
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>>153104425
>END Yourself21.jpg
post the other 20 pictures
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Is there really only one person in Loran FC?
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>>153104485
Are you sure you really want that?
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>>153104554
There were more of us earlier, but people have dropped out. I think there are 4 of us right now.
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>>153104425
>levelling str
SOILED_IT.jpg
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>>153104620
Please sir I can only be so erect.
Is it just 20 pictures of your face?
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>>153104735
Needed it so I could endlessly dashspam the wheel my dude.
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So I guess I'll go 99 ARC and maybe a 40/40/40 one after that if I still feel like it.
I've had some ARC characters before but they had other stats leveled, I'm not sure how I'll get through the game like this well of course, ringing . Any tips?
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>>153104972
>Any tips?
read the arcane guide in the OP
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>>153104972
Rosmarinus/firesprayer will ruin everything.
Get augur ASAP.
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>>153105097
Not him, but I've never paid attention to any of the shit in the OP. Worth reading?
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>>153104782
Except for this one, yeah, pretty much.
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>>153105165
Are you literally retarded?
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>>153105186
Post your favorite End selfie
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>>153105324
I'm a big fan of 8 here.
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>>153105318
No but I apparently could be figuratively retarded. Why?
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Question about transformed reiter
is spamming a few r1s to bait enemies in pvp and then using r2 to parry them as effective as I think it could be?
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>>153105808
Dunno, but I know that this is a perfect strategy for cheesing the Keeper of the Old Lords
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>>153105808
I have no idea but I have a more basic question about it, is it any good?
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>>153105324
>>153105519
And I like 9 even more.
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>>153105998
Keeper is so easy to parry almost anything works. Hell, if you really want to cheese it, just use beast roar/augur and spam R1 when it gets up and repeat.
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>>153059979
nothing right now, might give Rom a try in a little while though, only thing is, should I kill Imposter Iosefka now or after Rom?

>>153079809
>>153080554
>>153080630
I'd say those weapon concepts are fine for the most part(same with the other ones the artist made)
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>>153105808
>spamming r1 to bait enemies to parry you
>will this parry them
guess asshole
>>153106018
yeah, it's a little pokey and spammy but its got a few good moves mixed in with the annoying tricked form like the trick attack that thrusts and the gunless r2
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>>153106128
>beast roar and spam R!
That's how I do it on my arcane build, but on my skl/blt build I did it with reiter
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>>153106203
but if you they know you're spamming to bait them then it's no good! :o
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>>153106417
If they see you spamming they're going to parry, they don't r1 into other r1s retard
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>>153106380
I use HMLS L2 thrust to knock them down, then augur when they get up and just do that over and over. For other characters, I parry, wait for the 2 slice when they get up and parry again. Shooting them if they try to apply fire.
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>>153106174
The only "fine" part about them is the art, the ideas behind them are completely retarded. They don't fit Bloodborne's theme at all, and half of them are basically "it's like that one weapon but with a shitty gimmick"
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>>153103485
Yeah, I played the Alpha, didn't like how LOL 2HURRD it was, same with the beta, got back in and remembered everything I didn't like. Trying way too hard to create a new precedent of 'pleb filter' shit for /v/ to wank over. It's a Souls clone. Could be playing Bloodborne instead.
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>>153106970
The beta isn't hard though. Like at all.
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How do you open that fucking door to thats to the left of cathedral ward where that gigantic fuck with the ball and chain is?
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>>153104425
>>153104620
>>153104802
>>153105186
>>153105519
>>153106089
This is why I love this fucking general
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>>153107113
Pre-order bonus only.
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>>153107047
There it is
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>>153106970
From what I played of it, it seemed like it could be a fun fast-paced action game, but the fact that your healing items are shit and limited severely, and that enemies kill you in three hits at best, really hinders me from having any fun with it. It's just tedious to bait enemies out and stunlock them to death over and over again.
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>>153107271
What? No, i'm legit interested to know what you thought was hard. You take about as much damage as a souls game, enemies are pretty squishy, and they're easy to kite around and kill even when grouped.
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>>153107187
Not him but are you fucking serious? I fucking hate shit like that. So what did the rest of us who didn't drop everything to pre-order a game we hadn't heard of yet miss out on?
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>>153107150
Did I say you could reply to my posts? Blocked.
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>>153107573
he's joking
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>>153107573
It's not serious. You can see that the door leads to the Great Bridge, so it's not like it'd matter anyways.
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>>153107573
He's yanking yer chain. Door is unopenable. Cut content
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>>153107271
Not that guy but as a long time souls player I played the beta and it wasn't anything too hard.

Walking backwards is good enough to out space every enemy and the parries are real easy. Enemies drop enough health items to the point that you'll never feel like you don't have enough to face a group and blocking is ridiculously good.

The only enemies that can just kill you from full health are the larger samurai that punish you for randomly trying to spam them.
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>>153107634
>>153107693
>>153107724
Kek sorry for the chimpout.
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>>153107848
There was actually pre-order bonuses though, they're messenger hats. Google it.
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>>153107520
A lot of what >>153107424 says voices my problems.

You take way more damage from basic goobers than a Souls games, three to four hits max and you're a goner, the high lethality should be shared amongst all human characters. The healing items are terribly weak and a worse version of blood vials. Your penalty for losing stamina is still absurd. The weird MMO loot system bugs me, too. Added to that I personally do not find the gameplay feels good, nowhere near as polished as Bloodborne. Simply moving around in Nioh feels kind of weird and loose.

I love the concept of a grimdark Japanese myth inspired action game, trying to survive as a human in a land overrun by yokai, but the execution is lacking to me. Too many mechanics where the Souls/Bloodborne games have few mechanics but those mechanics have depth. I just don't like it.
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>>153107972
I can deal with something like that
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>>153108072
Consider yourself lucky, in the Alpha armour and weapons had durability. Perhaps by release they'd have smoothed out the kinks, don't forget it's still in beta.
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>>153107586
You cannot stop me
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>>153108191
I'M BEING HARASSED
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>>153108191
I wonder how a 99 HP only character would fair. Use clockwise runes, yhar'gul armour. Tank for days.
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>>153108309
vitgouge wheel builds have been a thing for ages
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>>153107740
>Enemies drop enough health items to the point that you'll never feel like you don't have enough to face a group

I never ever got consistent health drops. I was amazed when enemies dropped them, actually. And then, they don't heal that much.
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>>153108346
No wheel, just 99 hp.
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>>153108190
I played the Alpha, it was jank as hell and durability was absolutely insane.
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If you were to change 1 thing in BB what would you do?
Personally I'd make it possible to refresh a zone without going to the dream
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>>153108521
Yeah 99vit builds. Most use wheel because you can get some decent damage on it at base stats to use it.
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Can anyone tell me how to kill the Celestial Emissary? I think I've died like 20 times now.
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>>153108430
I throw on the guardian bonus for increased drop rates. Though it rarely matters. If I die it's due to being stunned through my stamina being depleted or just a 1-2 hit insta-kill combo.
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>>153108309
Fuck me, I'm gonna do this

But what would it be called?
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>>153107424
Limited healing items and dying in three hits both fizzle out of being a problem after a while
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to discredit issues like that, they're definitely there, but the root of these issues is that there is a STEEP fucking curve to that game
Once you unlock equipment upgrading and start holding onto luck boosting charms and armors, figure out which stats to be holding onto and reshuffling from your equipment, every enemy drops elixirs and you definitely don't die as easily

The issues are there, but they stop existing after a while and then it's the fun fast paced action game that it looks to be
The devs need to rework some of the balancing to try and fix this nonsense though
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>>153108629
Thrust attacks or bolt paper makes emissary a complete joke.
>>153108681
Health Ledger :)
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>>153107573
It would have lead back to the Cleric Beast bridge I think. I don't know why they didn't allow you to open it, would have made the world feel a little more connected
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>>153108796
>Thrust attacks or bolt paper makes emissary a complete joke.
tbqh I was just curious to see if saying that would trigger a git gud spergfest. That fight was ridiculously easy. Didn't even feel like a boss.
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>>153108796
>mfw using my Tonitrus against Celestial Ayymissery

It was over in 20 seconds
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>>153108902
No doubt didn't see any value in a shortcut like that, considering you can warp from bonfires and the cathedral ward's right there. The shortcut would just take longer to get anywhere.
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>>153108591
Probably change the entire online system, except maybe SRRC, because online sucks dick in this game
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>>153108951
It's not a boss. It's to distract you from finding the real boss of the area.

Break the window.
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>>153108591
Remove level 30 invasion cap or remove bell maidens and re-introduce a humanity type system like Demon's and Dark souls.

I want to be a dirty twink shitter
I have one at 43, but it's not the same
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>>153109329
Yeah I saw the window, was just spending some blood echoes. Are you suggesting this one is hard?
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>>153109517
>Are you suggesting this one is hard?
All relative. But compared to emissary? Yes
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>>153109639
Well that first death was fast. Jesus man.
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So why the fuck aren't you new bloods coming to the Fight Club anymore? It's still the same place and the same time every week: fucking be there some time.
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>>153110598
Just wait for the second phase
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>>153110906
Rules 1 and 2, newfag.
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>>153110906
maybe next week
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>>153110906
Loran yeah?

Be there in a few minutes niggerino
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>>153108309
Wouldn't harrowed or beast hide garb be better? They have better defense.
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>>153110906

>>153111084
it's over duder
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>>153110598
You're in for a fun time, then. The charge attack will never get easier to dodge.
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>>153110906
Explain this?
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>>153111190
>tfw stuck on Isz Ebreitas and Loran Darkbeast on my BL4 run
Kill me now
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>>153111190
This thing is fucking brutal. What's the recommended level? (Not that levels necessarily make a boss much easier)
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>>153111203
Every saturday at 6PM EST we have a Fight Club, where we all go into a closed chalice and duel each other for fun.

Well it's come down to the same 6 or 7 regulars showing up, and it's not like the thread is dead or anything. Where the fuck is everyone?
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>>153111372
About 50-60 or so. Being a kin, it more depends on your build. If you can range the head with arcane, it's significantly easier, as with bolt attacks.
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>>153111381
I probably suck cock next to most of you but sounds fun anyway and I could learn something. Maybe I'll come next time if I remember. Do you guys have any level rules? Or any other rules for that matter?
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>>153111774
the new glyphs are also in the OP but really does no one actually look at the OP any more? It has a lot of useful shit in it
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>>153111774
The rules are in the OP but to summarize
Level 80 - 120
Gems encouraged
No healing
If you're the host, blood-bullet to even health
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>>153111456
Kek shit I'm in the 70's but def not a ranged character. I'll just have to fuck around and try some shit.
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>>153111774
haha it's all just for fun dude don't worry about losing and having your failure immortalized haha
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>wearing Milkweed doesn't make you less resistant against thrust, bolt and kin, but more resistant to frenzy
>wearing Beast's Embrace doesn't make you less resistant to serrated, beast and fire
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>>153112065
B-b-but everyone will call me a newfag!
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>>153112381
We were all newlads at some point bud. There are some pretty bad webms of me out there from when I first started getting into BB PvP.
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>>153112065
I'm in the process of making a build I'd probably take to an FC, but the gem farming is killing my motivation to continue.
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>>153112381
everyone's a newfag at some point
>>153112709
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE
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>>153111456
Holy fucking fuck. I was actually doing pretty well that time but that laser... Is it instakill?
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>>153112924
The laser can hit for multiple times, you'll never be able to tank many. High ARC resist is advised for that.
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>>153113009
Ah yeah I sometimes forget that clothes/armor actually have stats on them. Doesn't usually seem to be noticeable but I've switched out for bosses before.
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>>153113202
Can sometimes leave you with a pixel of health, allowing you to heal up and carry on. Swapping out armours can save you in many instances with bosses.
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>>153113379
Last time I wanted arcane defense I think I used the white church set. Sound right or do you know a better one?
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>>153113713
Choir Set has the highest Arcane defence of all
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>>153113713
Just cycle through all your equipment and throw on whatever has good ARC while also providing fair physical attack for Ebri's flailing.
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I just can't do the blood gem grind again. If From is never going to touch the game again, why don't they just patch in a way to respec? I don't want to hear the casul argument either, the only people still playing at this point have dumped hours into the game. It's just tedious now.
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>>153114034
You don't need to.
grinding blood gems only matters for PvP and only then it's really just for arcane builds, everything is completely fine with DLC droplets.
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>>153114034
I find myself wondering why you even bothered to come to this general and write this gay post.
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>>153114381
But someone with toppest blood gems will do over 20% more damages. How can I compete with that?
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>>153114825
>How can I compete with that?
You know how, you just don't want to.
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>>153114780
What's gay about it? Can you use your words to explain why a respec system is a bad idea?

People were talking about PvP and the blood gem grind.
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>>153115006
Just make a build that doesn't need to be respecced
I have like 6 builds and the actual maingame+story chalices takes about 10-15 hours total, maybe a little extra if I have to throw myself at the dlc early for a weapon I really want or something
gem grinding from there isn't exactly fun nor do I think it was implimented well but respeccing is not the way to fix the gem grind
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Is the fight club over? If it is is there anyone still willing to pvp?
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>>153115298
Not him, but what I'd have liked was universal chalice dungeons. To be able to go in to an FRC dungeon on any character once unlocked on one.

The caveat being that you can only do it if the character is equal to or higher in level than the character that originally did it.
Can also go through without using another character's chalice dungeon to lower the level or do it yourself on a new character etc..
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>>153115661
Yeah, this is another piece of what needs to happen. Go through the story mode once, and it's enough. No reason to have to repeat the static dungeons again and again.
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>>153115657
I got one match a few minutes ago, but I'm still waiting for another
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>>153115991

What's the glyph? If you guys are in Loran I can only find the glyph for pthemuru
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Should I buy Bloodborne or No Man's Sky?
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>>153116213
Loran I'm afraid
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>>153115991
I don't recommend spamming r1 with the cleaver you won't win.
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>>153116217
You serious nigga?
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Sen your connection is all over the place you might want to check if you have any downloads on.
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>>153116919
Ah sorry, I'm not downloading anything I think my internet is just shit.
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>>153117141
It's np it just might make our fights a bit more jankey
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I just bought this on Ps4 after beating Dark Souls. Is the online still active for BB or is DED GAMe
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>>153117359
It can be depending on the time of day. Nightmare areas are always alive.
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>>153117453
I recon the early areas of the game are toast though? Is there any plans for more DLC or is it all ogre now?
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>>153117563
Early game areas are ded. But mid game areas at 43 ain't. No more DLC it pains us all.
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>>153117359
It lives

It's a fuckin From game, do they every truly die? People still play Demon's.
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>kill an invader handily
>want to gesture to show my appreciation for coming to my world to show me a good time
>every gesture seems like it would be rude
>end up just standing over his corpse until he's gone
I feel like such a fucking dick.
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>>153117842
I guess your right.
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Do I need arcane for Logarius' Wheel to be good?
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kek Mercure that was fucking insane, nice comeback.
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>>153118773
exe glove combos are the shit my dude
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I JUST FUCKING SOLO'D ORPHAN. FUCKING FINALLY, I DID IT WITHOUT SOME FUCKWAD HOLDING MY COCK FOR ME.

I'M SO FUCKING HARD RIGHT NOW
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>>153118908
I haven't even done that fight yet but this made me laugh. Good job anon.
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>>153118085
I usually do the modifiedLeage Oath or Make Contact
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>>153118085
Joy or Wave look kind of goofy and cute, just do those.
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uh sen my guy, you might want some more hp because 600hp as a phantom is not nearly enough
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>>153119957
800*
still not great my dude
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>>153120076
Eh I'm sitting at a pretty 35 vit. I have 5 more levels to 98 I guess I'll dump them there/
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>>153120136
>40vit
it's better than 35 for sure
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Anyone wanna run Loran for a bit with me? At the layer 1 lamp pass is ggb
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later laddos, get to 98 or wherever and if you haven't finished that gem farm get at it
hope to see you and many more fresh lads next week
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>>153121390
Good matches m80
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>>153118326
Anybody?
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>>153122337
No, the untricked form scales with strength just fine. Just don't expect to do too much with the tricked.
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>>153122337
arcane helps for sure, but you need to rev it to get the most out of the scaling, plus some dank ass nourishing gems to maximize the tricked form damage
you can get by way better as full str and blunt gems than full arcane though, as the tricked form still has massive str scaling where as the untricked has no arcane scaling
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>>153122414
Oh okay is that the main difference between the forms, which stat it scales with? Was a little confused about that.
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>>153122564
Thanks man I haven't really figured the weapon out yet but it does seem strong.
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>>153122708
unfortunately its most effective to spam the tricked dash, but you can definitely use the massive hyper armor to catch people off guard
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Lets discuss lore for a second, who is the protagonist exactly. Was a hunter prior to the events of the game? Our first experience with him is on a table being labeled with the hunters mark (right?)

Any ideas?
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>>153124572
You came to Yharnam because you were sick, perhaps with the Ashen Blood sickness, and sought Paleblood as a cure. It's also possible you were on the way to Cainhurst, since there's a summons addressed to you on the table you were on.
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>>153124731
So the protagonist became a hunter strictly out of a will to survive and circumstance?
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>>153124818
Yes. The Blood Minister(who we know nothing about) said he needed a contract to get "Yharnam blood", so the protagonist made it.

It's speculated that what you were given wasn't just normal blood, but Paleblood. However I can't remember the evidence to support that, if there was any at all.
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>>153124572
I think its up to you to decide what your characters back story is. All we know for sure is that the Good Hunter was sick, and sought treatment, and that you were probably of higher class (nice clothes, invitation to Cainhurst)
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>>153124990
What a peculiar backstory.
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>>153124818
>>153124990
>>153125172
I don't know how people even manage to glean as much story from Bloodborne as they do, tbqh. I think it's a 10/10 game, one of the best I've played, but it almost might as well not have a story.
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Ringing at Ludwig's fog wall, anyone down?

Password is cockfag.
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>>153125738
Hello guy who never reads item descriptions
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>>153125910
Nevermind, beat him.
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>>153126490
No I do. It's still just little tidbits. And don't get me wrong I kinda enjoy reading the tidbits. There just doesn't seem to be a cohesive whole story.
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Is there a checklist somewhere that I can use to make sure I 100% the NPC sidequests and don't loclk any of them out or end them early by accident?
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Anyone still fighting? I will be able to in 20 minutes
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>>153129102
I don't think there's a single checklist, but here's what I can remember.
All this must be done before triggering Blood Moon by killing Rom.
>talk to Eileen in Central Yharnam
>send old lady in Central Yharnam to Oedon
>talk to Alfred in Cathedral Ward
>send Arianna to Oedon, DO NOT take her blood, unless it is out of your inventory before you kill Rom.
>after that, tell skeptical man across from Arianna to go to Iosefka's Clinic(he goes to the opposite of where you tell him)
>talk to Eileen in Cathedral Ward, help her kill Henryk at Tomb of Oedon
>talk to Adella in Hypogean Gaol wearing some piece of Church-associated clothing and send her to Oedon
>send beggar in the Forbidden Woods to Iosefka's Clinic(or kill him there, he's an Abhorrent Beast in disguise)

After Blood Moon:
>go to Grand Cathedral and Kill Crowsteel, get badge and rune from Eileen.
>kill the Imposter Iosefka in the Clinic for the third of an umbilical cord

Can be done at anytime:
>Give Unopened Summons to Alfred
>Bring Annalise's remains to the Altar of Despair after Alfred kills her

After killing Micolash:
>go to the room at the bottom of the ladder leading to Oedon Chapel to find Arianna and her nightmare child, kill it for another third of an umbilical cord

That's what I can remember.
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>>153130168
I've literally never met Adella in any of my 6 or 7 playthroughs.
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>>153130245
She's in the basement of the Hypogean Gaol. You have to go there before Rom by being killed by a Baglord.
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>>153130245
Did you have enough skill to kill the Wackety-sacks or did you just avoid them altogether?
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>>153130380
Oh, I've never been killed by a bagman, is that what happens?
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>>153130581
Yeah I always just kill them, I didn't know.
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Whats the best possible setup to have for Amelia?

I dont actually need help, but im trying to work out exactly how overprepared you can get for her, since she's the mid point of the game, and after her you can have Depth 5 chalice gems if you try hard enough. I mean, obviously you can level up as much as you want, but offical guide recommends starting Forbidden Woods at level 40-50, and you have to kill Amelia to get to them, she gives 15,000 echo's which will take you from 49 to 50. Thus, the highest acceptable level to fight Amelia is level 49. Which if you ignore VIT/END can get you a very powerful build.

Best gems you can get prior to Amelia are Radials from Lower Pthumuru and Triangles from Lower Hintertomb. You can get up to 23% Thrust/Blunt gems in there, or 19% Physicals from a certain Watcher who oddly drops cursed gems in a non-cursed dungeon. I dont know the best Triangles you can get, but its probably from Madmen since they drop Cursed Gems as well. Unless Watcher Boss is possible in Root Pthumuru.

Originally I thought 50 STR/16 SKL, using a +6 Kirk Hammer with two 23% Blunt Radials and best Triangle I could find. But then it came to my attention that Uncanny Saw Spear and Saw Cleaver are avalible before Amelia, which would allow them to have all three gem slots used. As well as the 20% serrated bonus.

Would a 41 STR, 25 SKL build with the Cleaver using physical gems be better than the Kirk? Or 25 STR, 41 SKL using the Saw Spear for a lot more visceral damage.

Or the third option is an Arcane build and get two Lower Pthumuru Hotdog gems, plus either a Hintertomb Hotdog (if it exists) or a fire gem from a random mob.

I suppose it doesnt really matter, as any of them will get almost the same result of killing her in seconds. But if im going to waste my time doing this and making it into a youtube video no one will watch, I want to do it right.
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>>153131269
Dude, stop being autistic. I beat her at level 30 with a plus 3 weapon
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>>153131434
He's beaten her already, he's just trying to be as optimized as possible to kill her as fast as possible.

>>153131269
I'm not too knowledgeable in the mystic ways of maximizing AR, but I can say I'd love to see this done.
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>>153131269
The same Watcher that drops cursed gems also drops Triangles and Waning gems. I'd say 25/41 with Saw Cleaver would be better due to serration and speed. Use Beast Blood Pellets to up Visceral damage, it'd be pretty devastating I'd imagine.
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>>153130675
Now I'm curious. How did you guys fare with your first bagman?
https://www.strawpoll.me/11097748
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>>153132405
>No "threw the fight to go to the Gaol" option
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>>153133046
Ah, right. Forgot that not everyone plays blind.
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>>153132405
Do you literally have autism or ass burgers? Way too many answers nigger.
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>>153131789
> Ttriangles and Wanings.

I'd rather not farm for offshapes, especially cursed ones, since it'll take forever and feel kind of like cheating. I like the idea of relatively easy farms, using the systems from made, like Hintertomb Chalice's giving Triangle gems and being avalible early. As I said, I'd like to make it into a video guide, acting as if it's for people struggling with Amelia but the joke is that following the guide is complete overkill and much harder than Amelia herself, ending with a finale of me killing her in about 5 seconds.

>>153131529
> but I can say I'd love to see this done.

I'll upload a clip of what inspired me to do this: one character I forgot to kill Amelia and ended up with 18% gems from Lower Pthumuru. It's nowhere near as powerful as it could be, but she still melts like butter.
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>>153132405
I got Kung fu kicked in the jaw
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>>153132405
I was expecting a bunch of crow's to still be around the corner from Oedon Chapel, I ran in going to kill them for echo's as I did every time I was in that area and got karate-kicked into oblivion.

Funnily enough I didn't even know they had a grab attack until a week ago. It's fucking brutal what they do to you, but it so rare they ever do it.
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Want to make a Bloodborne build.
Can somebody check fashion for me before I go through with it?

Beak Mask
Beast Hide Garb
Charred Hunter Gloves
Bone Ash Leggings
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anyone want to run though cainhurst with me? ringing at first lamp password is bbg
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>>153136313
Sure, I'll lend a hand in just a minute here.
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>>153136313
Fuck it, I will. Give me a while to put in the BB disc
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>>153136480
>>153136542
thanks guys
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>>153132405
not counting one I fought in a Chalice Dungeon first(as those ones are weaker), first one I encountered in Yharnam proper was in that area you find at the bottom of the Church Workshop after killing the Beast Possessed Soul down there(kinda surprised they didn't have that be a boss fight honestly, place is perfect for it), that one managed to kill me, although I gave it a decent fight, think it only had about a quarter of it's health left
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>>153136313
>>153136542
>>153136645
>don't have Cainhurst unlocked yet
>don't even know if I've given the summons or anything
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>>153136007
Make of this what you will.
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>>153136837
Hot fucking damn. Thanks, anon.
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>>153136802
have you atleast killed the witches?
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>>153137029
To be honest, I think it looks kind of dumpy, but that's just me and my general distaste for anything to do with the Bone Ash set.

What's your build going to be?
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>>153134916
The offshapes weren't that hard to get, managed to get a Waning and two Triangles while farming the Watcher under 20 times.
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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU BEAT LAURENCE?
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>>153137352
40+ Vit, either Whirligig or Church Pick +10 (or any serrated weapon), at least Winter Lantern gems (Hamlet Bolts for Arcane), and Valtr if you don't mind not soloing.
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>>153137297
I think you just got really lucky. It took me ages just to get a bunch of Radial Physicals and one Thrust/Blunt gem. We are talking the same Watcher, right? The guy guarding the layer 2 lever in Lower Pthumuru.

I also had an idea about making a root dungeon with the Fedid Offering (you can do that for Lower Pthumuru, I think?) . Because red-aura enemies drop +1 rarity gems. Would it be possible to find a Watcher who drops cursed gems, who also has a red aura?
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>>153137069
No, is that why the carriage isn't appearing? I just got the summons from the clinic and I'm at the monument thing at Hemwick.
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>>153137694
Yeah that's the same Watcher I farmed from. I got maybe 2 or 3 Adepts as well. I wouldn't know about making a Fetid Lower Pthumeru Root but I did somewhat find out how to make the Watcher drops more consistent I think. How do you farm him? Like did you just kill him or try to trigger the heal?
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>>153137831
You have to beat the witches, mate.
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>>153137831
Yea, go kill the witches
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>>153137831
yeah, i can help you kill the witches just go by the first lamp and set the password
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>>153137352
See, there's a secret that not a lot of people know about.

First off, look at your controller. If you hold it handles down, there should be a big button on the top side of it, on the right. If you look close, you can see it says "R1" on it. If you hit that button, your character does an attack. When you attack an enemy, it will do damage if it touches them, but not if it doesn't. When you do damage to an enemy- in this case, Laurence- you will see the big red bar get smaller. You need to continue making the big red bar get smaller until it is empty, upon which point the enemy will have zero health and therefore be dead.

Now, I know what you're thinking. "Surely it can't be that simple, or I'd have done it by now!" And you're right, it isn't There's another trick you need to know. Normally, if you attack an enemy a lot and do nothing else, they'll be able to hit you back, and that will make your big red bar get smaller. Just like with enemies, if your big red bar is completely empty, you die. Now, on the front part of your controller- again, when held handles down- there are four buttons with colored shapes on them. When you press the red circle button, your character will do a little hop backwards. This move is not very helpful, but you can unlock its secret potential by holding a direction on the left analog stick when you press it. Doing this will make you roll (or dash if you're locked on), rendering you completely immune to attacks! Seems a little overpowered to me, I don't know what FromSOFT was thinking.

So to recap: Hit the R1 button at the enemy until its health reaches zero, and use the circle button to dodge the enemy's attacks so your health doesn't reach zero. Anything else you need to know?
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>>153137951
>>153137952
>>153137958
Beat the witches, original co-op anon doesn't need anybody else at Cainhurst?
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>>153138087
>ywn snuggle with Doll as she falls asleep

Why live?
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>>153138087
I just beat him.

I don't know how I did it, but I did.
Thanks for the advice, though.

>that part where his legs are gone and he's slamming the ground
Fuck
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>>153138110
two people is ok, but if you want to then thats ok
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>you can hear a baby crying in the distance at Cainhurst
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>>153138308
I think when you have 60 insight, you can hear Mergo crying in different places of the game.
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>>153137895
From my own testing the heal did not improve the droprates. That was my original theory when I posted about these gems a couple months ago (not sure if they were known about before then, but a few people responded to my posts not knowing about it).

Originally I thought he only dropped gems if he healed, because that's what my limited sample size showed. But after more testing it seems it doesn't matter, at least not enough to warrant waiting for him to heal, I can kill him and Hunters Mark and kill him again in the time it takes to bait out a heal (which sometimes never happens). Never got a single offshape, only 2 Adepts and about 25 Temperings.

Oddly he seems REALLY biased towards -health/second curses, but I did get a couple other ones, so I was probably just unlucky.
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>>153138554
Maybe I did just get lucky with RNG. I'll test it out as well to see if my method made a difference with gem drops or not when I get the chance.

What I did still is a bit time-consuming but who knows, maybe it did help with my RNG. With 25 Skill, I would Visceral the Watcher 2-3 times to get his health around 50% or below. I tried to bait the attack where he would raise the pipe next to his head and slam down with both hands. Usually whenever he'd hit me with it, he would heal while I tried getting back up. After that I'd just visceral the rest of his health and there was maybe a 7-9/10 chance of getting a curse gem. Baiting the attack took some patience, but it usually triggered whenever I was mid-range from him (just enough to not get hit by his poke). You could try it out if it made a difference, I think I did it with an Eye Rune or two and 15 Arcane but I don't think you'd have that luxury if you were gonna do this before Amelia.
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>>153139113
Eh, I've got nothing better to do tonight, I'll kill him a bunch of times and post results. I'll aim for 50 as fast as possible and 50 letting him heal. If you are also bored/possibly autistic you could do some testing as well, it would be greatly appreciated.
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>>153139492
I would test it out myself but I'm afraid I can't at the moment. Seeing some results would be lovely though, good luck with the farming anon!
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Anyone want to help me with OoK? Been stuck on him for a while now and I just want him dead so I can finally go full ayy mode. Password is hpl if anyone's up for it.
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>>153118908
my E-peen is bigger than yours, i soloed him without a gun
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Is anyone still up? I wanted some help with Rom in Burger Town.
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>>153141689
It's 7:30pm in Aus, primetime for shitposting and Bloodborne coop.

What's you password?
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>>153141689
Pass?
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>>153141891
>>153142035
ggnore
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>>152993193
Archibald was a weaponsmith
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>>153142157
Ringing
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>>153142332
lamp.
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Thank you, anon. I was so caught up in running through Yarharhar I forgot to say that. I really appreciate your help.
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>>153140863
/bbg/ pls, I've been at him for 5 hours now
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Why did I have to kill a good and caring daddy
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>>153140228
I killed the watcher (hence forth named "Lumpy") 50 times. 25 kills I allowed Lumpy to heal, the other 25 I did not.

RESULTS
> Total number of cursed gems dropped by Lumpy:
14
> number of gems dropped from non-healing kills:
11
> Number of gems dropped when Lumpy was allowed to heal:
3
> Number of Radial Gems:
14
> Offshape gems
0
> Rating 10 gems:
6
> Rating 11 gems:
3
> Rating 12 gems
5
> Number of Physical ATK up gems:
13
> Number of Blunt ATK up Gems:
1
> Number of any other type of gem:
0
> Instances of "Durability Down" curse:
2
> Instances of "ATK down" curse:
1
> Instances of "- Health per second" curse:
2
> Instances of "ATK vs Beasts down" curse
3
> Instances of "ATK vs Kin down" curse:
2
> Instances of "increased stamina costs" curse:
4

CONCLUSION:

Waiting for the heal is useless, it looks like it might DECREASE gem droprate, but that's probably just bad luck. However it's safe to say it does not increase the droprate. Kill him as fast as possible. Effects other than Physical Attack UP are a pain to get, offshapes as rare as ever.

Lumpy is a stingy bastard, but 20.3% Physical gems as early as you want them is no laughing matter.
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>>153148124
This brings back the painful realization I still need to farm more off-shape blood radials.
Already killed the thing about 1,000 times.
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This general is so dead during GMT day time.
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>>153148306
Speaking of which, I just got an offshape Bloodtinge gem......from the large Patient with the medical stand in Reserach Hall.

Is this normal? I didn't even know they dropped gems, let alone Bloodtinge ones.
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>>153149596
Strange, what are the stats?
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Does anybody want to do any co-op?
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>>153149729
Absolute garbage. But that's not the point, it's just such an odd drop.
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>>153149830
I still need help on Orphan if you're game.
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>>153151068
Password?
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>>153151196
Password's hpl. Just hanging out at his boss fog right now.
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>>153151274
Ringing
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>>153151274
If you need an extra hand I'll be ringing there in a minute or so too.
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>>153151274
>>153151374
Ugh that was sloppy, it's been a while since I've fought him
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>>153151595
Yeah, he just merked me with the lightning attack. Let's try that again. Nice cosplay by the way.

>>153151497
Sure, ringing the bell now.
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>>153107113
This. Over 400 hours in this game and I've never seen it open.
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Well, that was... interesting
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Greatest boss fight of all time. Thanks lads. Now I can finally become a proper space broccoli.
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>>153152095
>>153152194

Kek glad I could help, wall strat best strat for dealing Orphan.
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Is anybody savescumming FRCs? I could use some chunks and possibly gems depending on what they are
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How is the Church Pick with base SKL? I really like the moveset and thrust damage is a wonderful thing, but I'm currently doing a STR build and debating whether to go to 14 SKL, I'm already at 13 for the cannon.

If I get a Heavy Abysall (or 2) will it be a competitive option?
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I'm on a new SKL build, would anyone like to join in some jolly co-operations? BSB just killed.
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Hoping I can get a hand here with Chalice Dungeons. Doing a second playthrough of Bloodborne since it came out and I'm looking at getting a Chikage build going(although considering switching to Rakuyo late game since I've never used it)

Is it worth going for the Lost or Uncanny Chikage instead? I'll be completely honest, I have no idea how the Chalice Dungeons work as I never bothered with them on my first playthrough but I am curious to see what the Chikage's variants are like.
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what the fuck happened to me? srsly. it took me like 2-3 tries to kill BSB literally the first time i played the game. then i started a new game, and now i'm on like 12 tries and counting

used up my beastblood, my firepaper, my antidotes; its making me nuts, there's no reason for me to be having so much trouble with this guy
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>>153153740
BSB is fucking hard. I actually managed to stomp him second try on my current playthrough.
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>need to farm gems
>get to the pthumerian elder
>don't want to farm gems anymore
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>>153154123
I'm on pthumarian elder too, want to set a password? I wouldn't mind joining you and farming together
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Good news everyone!
I've created a device that allows me to only see the number 2!
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>>153154263
let me boot up the ps4 and copy the save
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>>153154489
Alright
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>>153154592
Ringing, the pass is "luck". Just in case, the glyph is by68zgaj
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>>153155037
Ringing
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>>153155119
Shit, ringing again
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>>153155362
No worries, it happens
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>>153154389
That's great, Professor
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>>153155392
Ringing again, if you still need it
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>>153156035
I'm good to go for as long as you're willing
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>>153154389
I read that in your voice Farnsworth.
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Ugh, with the online lag he wasn't stunlocked from my attacks and was able to just crossbow me without a problem
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>>153157594
Got a decent cold abyssal from him, but I still need 2 more. I'll message you when I get to the layer 3 again
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>>153158271
Sure, I didn't get a single abyssal lol.
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New thread when
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>>153158362
Ringing now
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>>153161076
>>153161076
>>153161076
>>153161076
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>>153160287
Still going?
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>>153161249
Yep
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>>153161249
I'll be back in around 20 minutes. I'll message you when I'm back
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>>153162694
Alright, use new thread
>>153161142
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