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Welcome to the /ammog/ Anime MMO general, a general for Anime based weeb MMOs that don't have a big enough community to sustain their own general.

This is a relatively new general that is open to suggestions for improvement.

>Current Games
-Aura Kingdom
http://aurakingdom.aeriagames.com/
-Dragon Nest
http://dragonnest.nexon.net/landing/
-Elsword Online
http://elsword.koggames.com/
-FlyFF
http://en.flyff.webzen.com/landing1/
-Mabinogi
mabinogi.nexon.net/
-Onigiri
http://onigiri.cyberstep.com/
-Twin Saga
http://www.twinsaga.com/
-Wakfu
http://www.wakfu.com/en/mmorpg

>Pastebins
-Elsword:
http://pastebin.com/EyYCpkP3
-Wakfu:
http://pastebin.com/z4pQNHBG

>Guild List
Elsword: NoFunAllowed, on both NA and Void servers. Just mention the general when applying.
Twin Saga: FishingRealm on private server. Ask for invite in the general.

>Private servers worth mentioning
-Aura Kingdom:
http://aurakingdom.to/
-Elsword:
http://www.voidels.to/
-Twin Saga
http://twinsaga.to/index.php

>General Database
http://www.mmobomb.com/games/anime

>AMMO non-english servers
http://pastebin.com/uZyHtnDD

There's always room for improvement, with your help we can make AMMOs great again!
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First post? First post!
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penis general
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Any Elsword Void players here? Post IGN and an image of your character.

Also what happened to the old Elsword general?
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>>152897869
same
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>tfw ak is dead
I blame the pedos
why aren't you more interested in grown up girls
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>>152898074
Died due to butthurt. Seriously though, I think Discord killed it. Fags don't want to keep a thread alive if they can just circlejerk instantly.
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>>152898225
AK is dead because Aura doesnt give a fuck about people anymore and just wants money

all the cool kids are playing TS now
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>>152898485
TS is p2w though.
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>>152898793
And what game here isn't?
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>>152898793
Everything is pay2win on aeria. You can just grind to death on pserv.
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>>152898074
Game lost popularity and died out. I'd post my character but there's honestly no reason to. Imagine a level 10 Lu. There you go, nothing to look at.
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anyone here play on gook/nip servers?
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>>152899201
Playing Closers in nipland.
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>>152899686
Is it p2w?
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>>152899142
I want to cum inside Lu.
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>>152899962
I want you to go away.
Elsword is a stupid p2w garbage.
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>>152899869
I wouldn't be able to tell you if I wanted to, because I can only understand nip by ear and I probably won't stick for the game for long enough to have any possible p2w aspects become an issue.
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>>152899962
i want to cum inside someone's waifu
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>>152899962
I want to hold Lu's hand while Ciel watches! I'm going to hold her hand so hard our palms get hot and sweaty! I'm not even going to wear gloves! Unprotected bareback handholding with Lu!
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>>152899962
Lu is for daughter-fu'ing
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>>152899962
>>152900312
>>152900439
I want you to stop shitposting.
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>>152900692
I'm going to hold BOTH of Lu's hands!
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>>152899869
What free mmo isn't?
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>>152898793
so is/was AK?
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Should I restart on the Mari server? Seems like that's where you people play/
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I like TS but i know i'll regret it if i invest my time into it. What the fuck
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>>152903259
TS is garbage anyways.
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>>152902464
Really? I was under the impression most of us were in Alexina. Hell, I'm there myself too.
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>>152903259
Time spent having fun is not time wasted.
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xth for THICC elfs
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>>152903774
fat
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>>152903831
THIC
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>>152902464
Only 2 people from old mabigen on Mari play, and one is in the process of quitting. Marielx doesn't count as a person.
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>>152904894
it's pretty easy to see why anyhow
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The idea of a rollback or a server wipe is ridiculous, simple as that. I prefer to shutdown the server that making a suicide decision just to make some try-hards happy. The fact you actually hink you know at which extent these bugs have affected the game (and the state of gears) is as ridiculous too but one can only begin to wonder which kind of God Complex are you dealing with if you think you actually have more information about players actions and server's donations than us, who actually have access to such things. So if we do not seem as worry and we did not made an emergency maintenance, I can always wonder what makes you think our reaction is neglective. Maybe we do have information you don't.
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>>152905430
triggered
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>>152904894
I lurked Mabigen but never really contributed. I'm on Mari as well
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>>152902464
>Should I restart
Depends how much you have already invested into that character. Some skill books can be a pain to get again and on a different server you won't ha access to existing pets and shared bank account. I'm alone on Tarlach but after years worth of time spent on everything I'd rather quit altogether than start from zero on better server.
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>>152898074
3 things killed the Elsword general.

- constant shitposting (mostly from one person), people starting getting sick of it, OP stopped giving a fuck at about thread 100.
- game got progressively worse, people started quitting
- slow content, nothing to talk about for weeks so the thread would exist for the sole purpose of being bumped off page 10 (almost like this thread)

I don't think anybody really cares, however. Elsword is a bad game, nobody in that general enjoyed playing it and would talk shit about it's flaws on the daily. It didn't deserve a general in the first place given posters were getting increasingly sick with the upcoming content from Korea which further broke the game (>+12s). To anons from other games, what happened to the generals?

>>152898280
I don't remember the thread ever having a discord. If it does, I imagine it's a small circlejerk of 10 people or so.
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>>152905430
yeah goys just shut up and go away, don't mind everything that happened and buy these shiny new mounts with your goyinks shekels.

goy we need donations cuz we're cutting corners handling every server transactions on the gameserver goy. don't mind the lag it causes goy just throw that monei, we'll fix it i promise
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>>152905649
>game got worse
>because Add was released

Bad players never learn.

>slow content
That's Void only. A good amount of the circlejerk was in the discord. It is so restricted that they even bullied out a random faggot who joined them for no reason.
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>>152906250
Not this shit again. Do you really want to start this in a new general?
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>>152906250
Why would someone join a discord for no reason?
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>check thread
>elsword faggots already ruining it
Someone should just go create a general for them so they stay out of this one.
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>>152906780
Those faggots are keeping this place alive.
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>>152906772
Happens to be a friend of the old discord owner. He was a faggot and people got angry at him because of that. Not exactly sure why would you get mad towards a fag when you have also faggots in there too. Like someone said, inner circlejerk of 10-15 people.
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>>152906780
>expecting anything else from shitty MMO generals
people on purpouse shitposted and made retarded posts just to keep their favourite garbage game generals alive by just constantly flooding the threads with posts

then every other MMO general followed pursuit on doing the exact same shit in hopes of not getting pushed off

so now we're at a maximum autism level where its common to make stupid shitty bumpposts to keep threads alive because every other thread is doing so
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>>152905430
wondered when someone's gonna post auras triggered fit
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>>152905649
Mabigen simply didn't have enough people, much like everything else related to that game. It's a miracle it has attracted so many whales to have them keep it afloat for a decade and counting.
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>>152907316
>playing gook games outside of gook/nip areas
you'd have to be insane to do so
I learned my mistake from yurop mabinogi
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Let's talk about Wakfu instead.
I've been spending hours inside my haven bag just making bread. I can make around 200k per day.
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>>152907226
Ironically enough that's part of what killed all the general from the OP, now they're doing it again in this general. It's like people don't learn.
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>>152907573
wakfu is my dream game and my worst nightmare come to life at the same time
its a fun turn based MMO
but on the other hand nobody plays with other people

its so fucking stupid
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>>152907745
Yeah, one of the reason I stopped. If more people played it I would go back. But literally everyone is multiboxing or using the hero thing.
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>no heroic server
>zimbabwe economies on both servers, which are made worse by how dead those servers are.
>multiboxing and heroes maim party play
>It's been YEARS since release, and we haven't seen any of the big promises for the game's ecosystem/economics/politics/pvp overhauls

>The game's tits and art style have had me admiring it from afar for the longest time.
Can it be salvaged?
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>>152908036
You'd have to find a way to drag in hundreds of people with you, in order to re-invigorate the playerbase.

If the company isn't marketing it well enough, then it's just left to float and die. A shame, but what can we do?
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>>152908036
Honestly, just make it so people can sell cash items in the market. I'm sure it'll revive the market.
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>>152908209
I'm hoping that the premier of S3 will have people flocking back for it, but it'll be a temporary fix, if they quit before they even get to 150.
>>152908252
They already can sell certain items, but I don't think they can sell the booster or hero subscription, which are the only things I'd personally give a fuck about.
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>>152908607
You can't sell services, and I think mounts too.
If they don't want to recode the items so it's tradeable then just add another market place for ogrines. And make it so once you buy it it becomes linked so you can't resell it.
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>>152907450
This is actually really interesting.
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>>152907450
Damn, no wonder all of these anime related games get treated like shit overseas.
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The girl that has my baby seed already.
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>>152909464
and no wonder so many mmos are korean. look at that growth, it fucking doubled
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>>152909542
if you go cross-eyed and line them up it looks weird
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>>152909464
>They don't get promotion because they don't generate enough interest.
>They don't generate enough interest because they don't get promotion.

what do
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>not playing on mari server
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>>152909860
It's like her close are trying to give me a seizure
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>>152910067
Makes you wonder why you even bother releasing MMOs in the west at all. Just let the desperate fans make translation patches like with PSO2 and let them spend in overseas cash shops instead of bothering to set up servers in the west.
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>>152910094
*clothes
Fuck me, my head hurts now
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>>152909860
She gets gradient hair, but that's about it from my perspective.
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>>152910068
Why would we play on the same server as you when you slap people? How rude.
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>>152910298
Because it might still be profitable in spite of the relatively low revenue (i.e. free money)
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Marielx is such a slut, back then i was weak of mind so she just abused me to her hearts content, often roleplaying and making fun of me in front of her friends.

she would call me to get online so she could roleplay me being her slave and penetrating me with items and other lewdy acts.
I did all she said but it wasnt enough for her, she shamed me publicly and dumped me. i stopped playing and shut myself up for months thinking about killing myself.

I'm sorry marielx.. please own me again. i love you..
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>>152911046
But you'd need servers and support staff and translators/localisers and stuff. That all costs money. Wouldn't it be better to invest in the bigger market than try to squeeze a few extra dollars out of the smaller market?
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>>152910067
Steam. I mean that's the only reason Elsword NA is relevant right now despite all of the recommended reviews being negative.

I think all f2p's end up suffering the same fate anyway, all of their models revolve around sustaining itself by purchasing more power which ends up compromising the competitive state of the game. The entire system is flawed..
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i need anime to watch /ammog/
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>>152911210
Probably. But I'm no business man
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>>152910298
They probably see the popularity of games like Runescape and think they can replicate its success. People in the west are slowly warming up to weeaboo culture though, so it'll be a matter of time before a game is an actual hit.
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>>152911210
Isn't that what they do already? Nexon NA put the old DFO almost through a year without a patch which inevitably killed the server.
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Should i play on the private or official server for AK? Witch one is less deader.
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>>152912238
private server is on life support.

offical if you want to get jew.
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>>152912432
>tfw official servers always end up being cash sinks
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/ammog/ elder scrolls online guild when?
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>>152912238
Official has more people. However keep in mind the official server is filled with bots, the economy is fucked beyond recovery and it has less content than the private server. To give you an example, there are items worth over 100k gold in the official server you can find for 1k gold in the private server. That's how badly the bots and gold sellers ruined the economy. The pserver has less people and servers aren't as stable, but you can think of it as an enhanced version of the game rather than just the same game with higher rates.
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>>152911728
JoJo. Katanagatari. Some show called 'Sakurako-san no Ashimoto ni wa Shitai ga Umatteiru' which is like Bones (the tv show), but anime.
Birdy the Mighty. Concrete Revolution. Gangsta.
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>>152912748
Wouldn't that general have its own guild? I'm not sure, but the few times I looked in there they seemed pretty chill.
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NFA Els dont yall have a discord?
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>>152905430
>Wakfu had a dupe bug
>doesnt do anything for weeks
>rolls back nearly a month of progress for people

RIP /wkg/
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>>152919272
It could've been worse.
They could've done what they did to nox; no rollback at all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KknbIPikS6g
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Elsword is a Kusoge
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OwO nya
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If I'm lookin' to just grind nonstop at max level and do dungeons 24/7 which game should I pick from this thread?
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>>152926524
what's this
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>>152926816
The mating call of the pub
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>>152926816
OWO someone told me to come here nyaa
hallo ^-^/)
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>>152926745
Elsword has titles that you grind dungeons for that are actually worth it. 1000 runs for certain titles.
You can grind the secret dungeons for the drops there and sell those, depending on the server getting some decent dosh.

Herowarz is nothing but dungeon grind for gear. It's Diablo Baal runs at the very "end" of it, not in crazy boss fuckery, but simply in the grind for loot drops. There's rare drop materials/mounts/sidekicks that people constantly need/want.

I don't know of any other end-games.
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>>152924659
This video gave me cancer holy shit. This fucking autist even wrote up a dialogue between himself and that anime girl. At least the preview image with the anime tits is hot
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>>152926524
>>152926957
Its like if i was playing on alexina!!
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What's the best way to get LP in TS?
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>>152928245
ohayo~ Marielx-sama! ^-^
how are chu? owo
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>>152928398
LP dungeon and Furval's Utopia, then any dungeon for boss kill LP.
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>mfw got all items on Astral puzzle

Feels good
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I see you Elsword fucks are in here, whats good niggers?

>>152928045
its a special kind of autism I use to attract views. Its an anime game senpai autism is expected.

here, ill even toss in a full of the pic as a reply.
yfw its not a random anime girl
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>>152926164
the kamige of kusoge
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>>152931420
THICC
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So are there end game raid dungeons in TS like AK?
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>>152934185
There is one but it hasn't been implemented yet in Aeria/pserver, only TW/JP.
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>>152931420
People stopped playing Elsword m8, maybe it's time you should too.
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>>152934368
Thanks.
Add Astoria if you have extra spot.
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>>152934379
im not really playing again until season 5, these days i log in once a week to shit out vids
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>>152934623
How can you even enjoy playing once a week when there's +12's? We used to think a year or two ago that even +10's in arena were too much, but it's reached a point where +12 is now a thing and kids are happily dishing out 1-2 thousand dollars. It's just too disgusting even for a bad game like Elsword.
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>>152934828
Stop being shit, you can get to SSS with a +9 easily if you are good.
And not everyone in SSS is +12.
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>>152935251
>missing the point
Learn to read, faggot.
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>>152935251
But is every +12 in SSS?
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>>152935251
it isn't a matter of reaching SSS you dumbfuck
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>>152934828
I still almost never lose.

there's just something about making these players trigger their autism over a korean online "fighting game" that gives me fun.

on the occasion i get cheesed out by a +12 and im reminded that the game is shit i just go play something else
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>>152935574
How often are you actually fighting SSS ranks instead of the S rank scrubs in your videos though?
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>replying to tripfags
Stop.
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>>152935915
occasionally, but most of them are people i know so they dont ragequit or anything or they stay silent, no one really wants those kinds of matches to watch even if some of them are pretty fun matches.

on some rare cases ill get a SSS so retarded he ends up in a video but yeah.
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>>152936035
>replying to this thread at all
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>>152934623
How does season 5 fix anything. If anything everything is more broken (again) because of more skill slots (which you have to fucking pay for) and broken new skills and passives
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>>152936396
no RoF.

but other than that, enhanceable Spar gear.

still not too much hope for this game
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Need an invite for Twin Saga private server.
IGN: Tenri
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>>152938978
>wanting to play a game with exploiters that have maxed equips running around
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>>152898074
Yeah, here. At work or I would. Don't have any particular favourites, but at the moment I've got the hots for EM.
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>>152939505
>being this butthurt you didn't get to abuse like them

Funny how they still suck at the game and most can't clear the hard dungeons easily like we do.
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Panties!
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>>152938574
Who are the names of good players in NA right now?
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>>152942493
look at her clueless smile while you're staring at her panties
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Holy fuck 33 IP's, why are we even trying?
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>>152942493
Panties matches the outfit, I wonder if they came as a set?
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>>152942636
the same fucking people as before lmao
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>>152945326
Safety, willb, Chase and others still play?
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>>152898074
I got burnt out recently, so I'm not playing at the moment, but here's a screenshot purely for the sake of it.
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>>152943530
Shhhh, no tears, only dreams now.
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people getting banned left and right on TS.to due to exploits
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>>152942493
This is how I imagine the type of posts you make, my friend.
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>>152900972

Tera is pretty fair to free players, enmasse NA version anyways.

Too bad the game has no content due to stupid devs.
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I honestly wouldn't mind paying for my mmos
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>>152949837
who is that semen demon in there
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>>152950232
Looks great from behind, but she's actually "American 'Learn how to draw manga!' Deviant Art" tier ugly
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>>152950930
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Jesus
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>dragon nest
Does anyone here even still play it? That general died so long ago.
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I can't even afk train the playing instrument skill because Nexon thinks I use hacks/mods or some shit. Fuck this.
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>>152951012
Is that Kanye West?
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Anybody playing FlyFF here? I haven't played since version 10. How is it now?

I have such fond memories and want to return. But I hear it's dead as a dodo.
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>>152951660
It's deader than a dodo.
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>>152951690
Oh bummer.
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>>152951249
Kanye is the biggest weeb, man
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>>152951012
wat the fuck
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so a metarealm dungeon is just the same dungeon but higher difficulty? and they only appear when you reach a certain level?
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What's the Alexina guild called?
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basically dead
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Ass.
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>>152958364
Yotsuba
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I-I made a friend. What the fuck.
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>>152960861
No you didn't. He just wants your money.
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>>152961151
But I'm poor as fuck.He even offers to gear me up and makes potions for me so we could go fight monsters together.
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>>152961303
im jealous
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>>152961303
Oh, I see. Know what they say in prison about people who offer you help out of the goodness' of their hearts?
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>>152961303
You're being groomed, anon.
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>>152961303
Treasure this experience anon
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>>152898074
Finally got that 1000 run autism title after months of procrastination.
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>>152960690
>members
>128
What the fuck, this many?
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>>152962017
a suitably autistic title for an autistic person
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ded gaem
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Necromancy!!
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ded
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PERIA
CHRONICLES
REEEEEEEEEEE
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out of curiosity why isn't dragomon hunter in the OP? is it because it's shit or what?
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Founder's Packs are out for Rev and the first CBT is scheduled for October!

https://ro.my.com/en/founders-packs
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>>152973850
>my.com
I cry everytime, because the game actually looks fun.
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>>152974240
It LOOKS like they might be actually listening to the playerbase. The RU packs were full of P2W items that wouldn't fly over here, so they took them out.

Still holding onto my money until they go into detail about what's going to be in the cash shop, though.
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super ded
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>>152973850
>Revelation Online
literally Tera
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What game is the majority playing? I'm looking for an mmo to play, and I'd like to join one where I can hang with you guys.
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>>152980120
Mabinogi
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>>152973548
Onigiri is shit and its on there.
>tfw C21 is dead
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How is dragon nest. I played a long fuck time ago when weapons had special effects that would trigger without cooldown, so using something like arrow rain would nearly oneshot bosses if you got lucky on the procs. They fixed it so there was a cooldown to the procs and I stopped playing. I heard they like wiped 2 years worth of data on accident or something?
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>>152980120
Mabinogi and TS are the most played probably.
Avoid Wakfu and I hear AK is dying.
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>>152897840
How old is /ammog/? I don't remember this being here a few weeks ago
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So I love Elsword to death but a friend of mine loves TERA to death, not to mention that she has tons of elins but she doesn't like Elsword.

Should I move with her to TERA or force her to play Elsword?
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>>152983425
Probably a week.
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>>152983547
play ts
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>>152983870
is this true
I thought you guys were here for a while, considering the amount of shit in the OP
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>>152911981
MMOs are pretty dead in the west though I doubt an anime mmo will ever be a hit no matter how much people warm up to weeb culture
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>>152984245
>considering the amount of shit in the OP
Consolidated from old generals that didn't have enough posters to sustain themselves
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Am I autistic for reading the story in TS?
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Ruairi server is so dead pls
I came back and ch 1 belvast have 5 shops in it, dunby was empty, wat happened
on an unrelated note, check out this sweet staff I copped two days ago
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>>152985670
no
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>>152985905
God, Mabi bags are so fucking small.
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>>152985905
It's weird because even with the channels so empty I lag worse than I did when they were full?
>>152986158
Ifkr It's so bad
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Does any one here play LaTale? Was thinking about getting back into it and see does anyone want join me.
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Anyone want to sell me a Solomonk Hat for 2.4mil? I'm in the Remington server.
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>>152987805
I might. Maplestory sucks when you need to buy a pet to actually be efficient.

Are the controls still shit though? I played like 10 years ago and the movement is fucking slow. Not to mention that jumping slows you down.
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Have you tried Riders of Icarus? Opinions?
I suffered through all 3 beta tests, first time around was fun but the novelty wore off. The weird 3d color filter thing on it just made so nauseous that I just can't play it anymore.
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>>152987993
Played it few weeks back and it feels just fine also they gave everyone a double jump and climbing stuff is way faster.
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>>152982559
Think it's moving to a new company. Great think too seeing how most of NA Nexon does to their game. No idea on how high level play is only got to 47 then quit cuz of ded game.
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>>152985394
Aren't WoW, RS, DFO, EVE, FFO, BnS actually pretty popular in the west? The ones in the OP are simply struggling because most people would agree they're bad games, not because they're weeb.
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>>152985905
Alexina is where it's at.
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>>152978472
>Tera without desync

I see nothing wrong here.

Tera is a great game ran by retarded devs and retarded publishers. We honestly need a new game to come out to either dethrone it or at least make BHS/Enmasse realize they need to stop being lazy in regards to addressing serious issues.

There are so many priority A bugs that have gone unfixed in Tera since Beta it's insane.

>Knockdowns still randomly make the target invulnerable for no fucking reason
>Loot still randomly becomes unlootable for no fucking reason
>Jumping still bugs your hitbox for no fucking reason
>Dungeons still sometimes teleport you out before you can pickup drops for no fucking reason
>Some Dungeons still can't be reset for no fucking reason
>Entire Gunner classes animation canceling is still broken
>Gunners healing bot still causes certain skills to desync for no fucking reason
>The most OP class in the game keeps getting buffed every patch
>Certain skills still have warped hitboxes that make them miss at point blank for no fucking reason
>Crafting is still broken
>Optimization still only uses 33% of most GPUs
>Optimization still tries to bottleneck the CPU before using GPU, making this 5 year old game run worse than fresh new AAA games out this year
>Game UI still drops your FPS by half on most GPU cards


Jebuz Christ.
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is there anything in TS like Ravager in AK? I miss spin to win
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>>152989826
Swordman, Berserker.
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>>152989826

Sword master
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>>152989532
I wish we could move our characters to different servers. No one wants to start over after 7 years on the same account lol
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>>152897840
What's the most p2w game in the OP?
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>>152990020
Mabinogi
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>>152989785
Still mad about gender locking classes in a game were you make your own chars and yes I know muh to much money to make all races have new animations I'm mainly mad about brawler not going to male humans aswell.
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>>152990107
Actually, not really. it hasn't really been p2w since g2, where you had to pay for bank space, bag usage, rebirths, and paladin/ dark knight trans...
If you want to become rich then yeah you gotta buy gachapons and hope for the best.
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Double rainbow event on Mabi.
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>>152990020
Official Elsword
FlyFF

The least p2w is probably Wakfu and the private server for Elsword.
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>>152990107
Elsword is way more p2w than mabi. In mabi you can have all the best equips but you have not leveled any skill your still going to be shit.
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>>152897840
Maplestory general is dead.
Remember to add Maplestory in the OP.
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>>152990563
I don't want /msg/ to come here. The cancer of all cancers.
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>>152990563
I hope a new 2-D mmo comes out soon.
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>>152990707
Same here. Nexon is a fucking shit company. The only other 2d MMOs I can think of is Elsword, LaTale and DFO.
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>>152990856
More than half of the MS community doesn't even play on the official servers jsyk.
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>>152991150
Private servers are worse though. They're either behind on patches or more p2w than the official. At least Reboot exists but it's forcing you to buy a pet. They lowered loot speed, I know for a fact that it was faster a few years ago.
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>>152991452
>wanting to play MS after big bang
DISGUSTING
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>>152991618
>missing out on all the other bosses
Have fun with like, 3 bosses.
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>>152990281
Gender locking is only an issue if your gender identity is so fragile you can't handle playing as something else.

SJW faggots aren't a thing in the east and they have no problems with genderlocking. It's only here in the west where people think gender disphoria is a thing ( Guess what faggot it isn't ) that people complain about it.

Genderlocking doesn't affect game balance at all and lets them give content quicker stop whining about this literal first world problem non-issue and stop being a faggot.
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>>152990856
I'm playing LaTale. Cant get into dfo until new male Mage stuff comes out and Elsword is a big neh
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>>152991772
I just want to play manly stuff man. I don't mind it's just shtitty when Tera does it.
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>>152991772
Fuck that, I want to play the character that I create, no matter the gender
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>>152991749
I play MS for the nostalgia.
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>>152991772
Are uneducated are you? Did you finish highschool? Do you shit burgers?
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>>152993526
I would too, but all my friends left.
I miss my Bishop and doing HT and PB runs with my guild.
Do the pre-BB servers have the new classes?
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>>152989959
>>152989975
Nice
however does melee get fucked over in this game like it's with every XL game?
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>>152993725
Yes. The game is very anti-melee. Not that is impossible to play meele, it just sucks to get hit all the time.
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Anyone play S4 League?
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>>152989785
whats the op class that keeps getting buffed?
>>152991772
its not that we cant literally play it, just that its fucking annoying. goddamn dude

>le balance and content quicker shill meme

go fuck yourself if you actually believe this
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>>152994059
Plz anon I just can't anymore such a fun game killed by shitty host and hackers out the ass.
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>>152994516
Hackers were erased a while back.
Host is still yknow
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>>152993526
Try LaTale mate way better gameplay and ost than ms
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>>152994672
>Come back to LA tale
>All my equipment says old
>Has worse stats
>I'm missing everything in my bank
Kek kms
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>>152994852
Run a few dungeons and get some better equips. They added stuff for soloing dungeons now. I would carry ya but can't play until Monday .
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>>152995056
What server? I might play.
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>>152993996
god damn XL why you always do this
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>>152995172
Only LaTale sever I know of is the ogp one NA I think.
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>>152993996
I swear to god 99% of games are anti-melee and it PISSES me off.
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What's the coziest BGM in Mabinogi and why is it Ferghus theme?
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>>152995410
Ftw you just want to slap someone's shit with ya fists just to get sniped/ shot to death.
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>>152995464
Time to post game OST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6hBJrEkZBc
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>>152995464
>not just posting good bgm from the game ya playing.
https://youtu.be/mhLxvzBXiHk
https://youtu.be/yYGXjPmhgt4
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>>152995532
Honestly what made me gravitate towards tanks instead of melee dps
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>>152995808
Damn man that ost is dope as fuck thanks for posting that.
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>>152996029
>https://youtu.be/yYGXjPmhgt4
Fucking sexy.
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>>152996105
I think that's why I play tanks in games just slapping bossing shit and all in their face.
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>>152995532
>>152996371
>tfw i just want to be the cuck and be the nice sweet healer
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>>152997121
Someone post that image about that healer.
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>>152994406
Take a guess
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>>152951660

dead af desu senpai
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>>152998834
oh god, reapers.

I played tera a whopping twice, only getting to mid 20 each time, but I always loved the idea of berserker, but I've heard the new classes are always op as fuck.
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>>152998836
Reminds me a little bit of Trickster. Oh how I miss that game.
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>>152998836
FlyFF is such p2w bullshit.
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If I decided to skip early Mabinogi Generation questlines like an idiot when I was younger, am I really missing out on much? Some of those titles seem pretty nice, but with all this AP and being level 399, I really don't want to restart.
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>>152998924

The main issues with all four of the non vanilla classes is they all have a massive amount of wide area CC which is pure cancer in pvp. A reaper in fodder gear will perform better in fraywind canyon ( 15 vs 15 ) than a Zerker/Slayer/Warrior in full BiS gear. They just bring so much more to the table.

Most of them also require little skill to play. Ninja is the only one that is fuckup-able, the other 3 are braindead.
-Gunner is a ranged bomb throwing class with heavy armor and an auto-self healing pet that can't be killed.
-Reaper has one skill that is both an escape and an opener for a 100-0 combo in one, so they can just use it whenever risk-free if it hits they get a free kill if it doesn't they can just kite.
-Brawler is the most retard proof of them all and has 100% block chance while attacking at the same time so the class can legit be played by mindlessly mashing your forehead on the keyboard.
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>>152999971
399 is pretty low. I would just restart.
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>you will never live in Belvast
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so for dragonnest I logged in and did the crap that said yes ill transfer the data, then put in an email and password, but I dont see anything on that email yet. Or will I see it later?
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Me and a group of friends are looking for new MMO.
Aura Kingdom or Twin Saga, and why?
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>>153000763
>group
I'd say Wakfu since it's probably the MMO that's heavily dependent on groups.
AK and TS can be solo'd so it gets boring.
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>>153000974
Nah, we played Wakfu before.
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>>153000763
If you want to play music together in a dungeon, go for Mabinogi.
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>>153001060
We went through list of MMOs and are only interested in the two I mentioned.
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>>153001021
If those are you only two choices then I say play AK.
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>>152999971
If level 399 is all you got to after all this time... it would be better to just restart.
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I want Wakfu to be fun again.
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>>152983547
Play both? Take turns every week or something.
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>that feel when you will never see your friends again
>that feel when you are still standing
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>>152985905
Nice stockings though. That staff seems pretty awesome too.
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>>152990281
What about the fact there's almost no point playing anything that isn't a bunny loli, since they get all the content forever and always?
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>>153001274
>>153000352
Goodbye, 400 ap. I was pretty shit back when I did play often, so it's forseeable.
I guess the only other question I have is on Windmill. Is maxing it first still the best course of action for warriors, since CP fucks you over if you level up your other stuff?
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>>152991772
Technically gender locking isn't that different from certain classes being locked to certain races, but you never hear people complain about that nearly as much. In fact you're more likely to hear people complain when they REMOVE race locking. Suddenly everyone is complaining about the lore or whatever, even if there was lore reasons as to why certain classes are genderlocked anyway.
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>>153002809
I wouldn't worry about CP for the first 600 levels t bh, there's always gear for that anyways. What server?
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>>153003327
Alexina
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>>152960861
I played with him for over 9 hours. I-It was really fun.
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>>153004065
what game
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>>153004065
Why are you stuttering like that? Did you just ERP all the time or something?
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>>153004915
Memenogi

>>153005007
N-N-No.

We did quests together and he helped me learn and train skills.
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>>153004065
Someone add me and proceed to not do anything with me.

>>153005007
Because it's cute you faggot
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>>153005282
Server?
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>>153005404
Alexina
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>>153005467
a/s/l?
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>>153005491
14/f/cali
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>playing support character
>a group of people ask me to join a party
>try to kill monsters with them
>they laugh at my small damage
>all they wanted was my buffs
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Any one here played Fiesta Online?
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>>153005629
>playing a game where support characters are weak
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Bah, no one here plays Ruairi but me. :'(
Btw, does anyone know what food combo gives me huge thighs and hips but doesn't buff up the upper body? wider hips look nicer in the Sky Dragon wear, but big arms make the sleeves in the Royal Academy uniform look puffy
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>>153005937
Cheese. It took me 6 whole cheese to get me from skinny chicken legs to THICC
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Discord
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>>153005735
Shit, I remember this game.
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alexina WW@
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>>153005937
Cant you just go to the hoy springs?
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>>153006656
That will only train the upper body.
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>>153005937
>Ruairi
I haven't been on Mabi in almost a year and it was pretty scarce when I was. How's the population now?
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>>153007019
It's dead
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>>153007060
I figured as much.
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>>153007019
Ruairi used to be a place where people dropped millions and paypal for stuff, but the people who did that have quit, so all the good clothing and equipment are locked away on their accounts. Everyone's desperately trying to make money selling junk to buy equips that don't really exist anymore, so more and more people are quitting.. it's kinda depressing
we have the lower-lower middle class, the rich, and the exuberantly rich lol there's no inbetween
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oop i meant to say lower-lower class lol
this is ch1 rn
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>>153007968
>tfw you don't even recognize anyone in this image
A little a sad, but also fine since Ruairi used to be heavily populated by cunts

I just wish Mabi got DFO's treatment, but Nexon will never release devCat from its iron grip.
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>>153008637
Neople is a pretty decent company. They give free shit all the time.
Plus it's not as p2w as other Nexon games.
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>>153005629
Well yeah, a support character usually doesn't do a lot of damage right? They're mostly there for buffs or healing, maybe even debuffs .
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>>153008637
God Ruairi used to be such a shitfest back in the day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67E5fIVQIm4
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Digging through imgur and found some old screen shots.
Rip rapier looked so nice but was so shit.
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>>153010717
>old screen shots
Why did I come to this general? I knew it'd make me sad.
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>>152978472
Eh. It's more like a mix between Tera and BnS, with more content than both of them. I really like it.
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>>153011304
They look so small. Are they 10 or something.
Fucking pedos.
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>>153011375
Actually yes they could very well be 10 years old.
Mabinogi had an age system each week is a year where you gain age and stats
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I remember when everyone wore robes. It was the fashion statement of the game.
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>>153011375
13-15 most likely, since that was taken when people still had to pay for rebirths

pic related is 10 though
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>>153011359
Fucking ugly.
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>>153011762
I'll punch you in the gabber m8.
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>>153012382
Cute boy.
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>yfw someone near you uses the singing skill on mabinogi
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>>153006810
Why would you want to get fat anyway?

Slender master race.
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>>153014276
>doesn't know about THICC
Are you even a real girl?
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>>153014276
I mean I did explain it but okay
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whos on Nox?

if anyone is interested in Wakfu, lets playyyyy
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>>153014468
>/fit/ is better anyway.
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>>153016609
>Nox
lol
I'm in Remi.
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>>153016616
Fuck, didn't want to greentext that.
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>>153016616
Server? let's get married I'm a ride that shoulder so fucking hard.
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>>153016609
Are you starting fresh, or can I bring my cra and xelor?
140 on the xelor, 120 on the cra.
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>>152991796
>I'm playing LaTale.
Post IGN
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>>153016609
i got some lvl 100 toons, gotta reset em, but im down to start fresh if some other people are trying to join
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>>153018324
The downscaling system is actually coming out with the next update. One of the things I was just thinking about doing is trying to start the general back up, and maybe shill it on /v/, when it comes out again.
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>Still inviting those autistic maplestory players here
You think a circlejerk of fucks with an inflated sense of self importance really want to assimilate peacefully?
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>>153016779
I just took it from the wiki, sorry senpai.
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>>153018528
What's the point of the down leveling? Just so you can party with lower level people?
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>>153018818
You mean exactly like you're coming off as right now?
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so does anyone here play dragonnest?
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just waiting until this becomes a revelation online gener
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>>153019854
>founder fucks to play beta

yeah, nah
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i want to erp in TS
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>>153019326
>He wasn't there to see when an anon nearly stalked and killed another anon and the drama that followed between those manchildren

Wew
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>>153021095
I don't care about your unrelated dramafests, no. And I will continue to ignore them. Take your shit elsewhere.
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>>153019314
The point is that you basically scale your character down to the dungeon's level (and they're going to make a "builds" system to make this more convenient), but you also gain exp at a rate that's comparable to what you would gain from running a dungeon that was your true level.
I wish my old friends from the whispers days were still playing. I know one who'd cream his pants over the idea.
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>>153021243
Exactly. Let them rot.
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>>153021409
I'm not turning away anyone that wants to talk about games, so fuck off.
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>>153021523
>Msg
>Talking about games

I'm done arguing this with you anon. You reap what you sow
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>>153021698
Go back there and stay there if all you want to talk about is drama.
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byump
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>Maples tory already shitting up somewhere else
So I'll play a game with any of you. I don't care which Except for maplestory
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>>153017140
Can't play until Monday but I got like 4 I play a Saint, soul lord, warlord and a Mech.
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>>153020636
I'm so mad that Wakfu doesn't have a heroic server yet.
I wanted to try a concubine run and survive purely by being a heal slut for some big ol' pk'er.
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>>153024290
lets hold hands in ts
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>>153021095
Wat, elaborate.
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>>153024582
How fun is the Mech?
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>>153024702
But that's forbidden love
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>>153024834
It's a tanky class that does alright level of dmg also you use a combo of weak and strong attacks to then do a main attack. Also each mech you ride is has different attacks. Think there are like 7 or 8 types of mechs. But be warned you don't start as a mech you start as a shitty engineer then at level 50 you become a mech but it does not take that long to level.
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>>153025393
let's just do it
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>>153025519
B-but it's my first time and I don't know if i-I'm ready
Be gentle with me
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OwO hallo nyan
whats going on here?
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>>153024582
Nice. I bounce from character to character too; my highest is a 198 Card Master. Haven't played in a couple months but I'm always itching to get back in.

>>153024834
Swordian is interesting and hits hard with its skills, and can be built for either skill spam or weak/hard attack spam, which makes it somewhat versatile. But last I checked it was one of the worst classes damage-wise. Regardless, the mech designs are excellent, it has neat animations, and its subclass Star Seeker (summon-based technology user) is really, really good.
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>>153025723
>one of the worst classes damage-wise
Fucking really?
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>>153025584
You're ready, trust me, hold my hand and walk down the path with me.
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>>153025828
The difference between worst and best in LaTale isn't very much anymore desu. Classes are balanced really nicely at the moment.
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>>153025723
Played LaTale in 2008 and never got pass level 120 or 140. Feels bad.
>>153025828
It's like really tanky if I recall so you don't die much. It's a alright class to start off with.
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>>153026934
Yeah it's very tanky. Mine has 30k HP at level 147 and it's almost naked. Most classes don't hit that amount until Lv180-190, and some (like Blade Master) would have to gear for it.
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>Elsword's final boss is literally Dark Souls tier
>3 days since his release and no party has been able to defeat him at all
>everyone gets the bad ending, where Elesis becomes the vassal of the Lady of the El and everyone dies
>To archieve the true ending you have to defeat Solace before the 60 seconds mark
>not even a +12 party could do it
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>>153029270
Currently impossible due to becoming invincible when dropped to 4 bars during that 60 second period.
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>>153029372
Aren't there ways around that? Like, previous bosses had similar gimmicks but you could always time it so you burst damage then before they hits the next HP checkpoint. Does that not work here?
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>>153029270
>>153029372
How do you know that that's the condition for the good end
What if attacking at all is what gives the bad end and you have to be pacifists during the battle
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>>153029270
kinda inaccurate, you make it sound as though he hasn't been beaten due to lack of player skill where the fact of the matter is the game just makes the boss invincible during those 60s so it's literally impossible to get the true ending now

i've seen videos of solo +12 players wrecking him in a matter of seconds, they just run around with their thumbs up their ass once he goes into the second phase because they know the game doesn't allow them to oneburst him down for 60s anyway
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>>153029703
Nope. Skipping Scar's vortex attack involves freezing him, then attempt to reduce his HP to 0 while he's frozen. Skipping Maya's Annihilation Mode involves freezing her, then reducing her HP to the threshold.

Skipping requires you to freeze the boss, and Solace is immune to all debuffs including freeze.

>>153029869
During those 60 seconds, Solace reflects all damage, so it's wise to not attack him. Unless you want to die because your own Miho killed you.
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>>153029372
And people said Elsword PvE is easy as fuck.

>>153029703
Solace is special.
>cannot be debuffed
>cannot be frozen
>cannot be stone'd
>can manabreak your attacks
>can teleport
>4 nukes, all involving Elsword's attacks
>insane amount of RED

Literally Dark Souls tier.

>>153029840
Because no one has defeated him on that mark.

>>153029869
It's possible. There is not enough skill on the game to do it. You can also damage him on those 60s.

>mfw people can't git gud
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>>153029997
I seem to recall something about Avalanche as well? He would fly away and shoot missiles at you or something, but you could skip entire phases if you slammed him hard enough at key moments? Or did you need to freeze him too?
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>>153029997
the damage reflect is just another incentive not to attack during that section, you aren't allowed to kill him anyway so why bother attacking

>>153030142
>Space of the Black Sun: Upon reaching 4 bars of health within the initial 60 seconds of the fight, Solace's [Mark of Judgement] will grant him full immunity to any source of damage for the remainder of the initial 60 second timer, and will be removed once it reaches 0.

you can damage him during those 60s, but as soon as you reach 4 bars he literally becomes invincible

as i said, no point attacking him during those 60s, +12 players can easily oneburst him so they just do it once those 60s are over
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>>153030189
You can't cheat Avalanche. Though, I should try some time.

You can however cheat Magmanta, because him jumping to the background is triggered by receiving 50 instances of hitstun.
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So lemme get this straight.

Elsword made a boss where you have to kill him within a certain amount of time to get the good ending, but then gave him a minute long "I reflect all damage" move as well as a "I will literally, literally become invincible for up to a minute" move.

What the fuck?

Literally what the fuck? Who runs this game, Sony? Is this going to be like that one Final Fantasy MMO boss where when two guilds tried to kill the end game dragon Sony pulled the plug on the whole thing, buffed th dragon and told them to try again? Is this like their other retarded boss that's immune to almost everything and they keep buffing it every time players find something its not immune to? Benevolence? Benediction? Something like that.
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>>153030280
And the condition to get the true ending is to kill him on the Mark of Judgement's time. There is a good reason why people has not unlocked the last Elysion title yet.

Can you defeat Siegfried /aamg/?
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>>153030601
Probably because of planned content yet to be implemented. We still don't know trigger conditions and the properties of the Eclipse title for example.
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>>153030343
you can cheat ava

before skill delays got removed, this was easy to do because of a mechanic where targets will continue to be locked in a skill delay as long as they did not get hitstun. this meant that all you needed to do was wait for him to stoic, then use something with very long skill delay like gungnir while the rest of your party bursted him down

after skill delays got removed, they reduced ava's and maggy's freeze res so you could theoretically use a freezing skill then oneburst them however the freeze duration is really short (like ran-tier short). you'd have to be really fast with it
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>>153030694
Then release all the content at once, don't just make people waste their time against a bullshit boss.
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>>153029997
it is actually possible to not use freeze to skip thresholds, however it requires you to be literally able to kill the boss in oneshot above the threshold

https://youtu.be/CIG09WkSRH4?t=170
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Remember, if youre playing mabinogi and are on mari server, you can always look for me if you need help leveling or generation quests.
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>>153031401
remember, kill yourself
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>>153031425
Savage.
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Need help with TS.

I want to play the most braindead ranged class.

Also, which Senshi is currently the best for DPS?

And how do I get more stars for them?

Thanks!
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>She is dead
>because Elboy couldn't defeat Solace on time
>meanwhile Rose is still alive because she is an enemy to the El Party

BULLSHIT
WHY THE BLONDE BITCH HAS TO LIVE BUT THE QTS HAVE TO DIE
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>>153031909
Lu dies? What the fuck happens in the Elsword storyline? What is this shit? I've been trying to ignore the latest update so I don't get spoiled, but I can stand it no longer
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>>153032046
The ending literally shows up that if you lose the Solace fight, Elesis becomes the vassal for the Lady of El and everyone else dies.
Except Rose because reasons.
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>>153032151
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>>153032151
Jesus christ, what the fuck. The characters were literally the ONLY GOOD THING about KOG's convoluted, loopy lore, and then they go and kill them?
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>>153031739
Cannon.
Rita + Claire + Elemental/Ranged/Melee/Arcane Senshi for now.
Get their contracts.
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>>153032046
>>153032237
>>153032282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UG8qQYMlUw

If someone thought I was lying.
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>>153032287
Thanks.

Cannon is not really my style though.

Is there any other range that comes close?

Currently looking at Hunter/Occultist.
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>>153032640
the last scene is just elsword hallucinating something about a white space

there was never any outright evidence that the rest all died other than solace saying some bad things before the fight like all bad guys do
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>>153032798
It's implied tho, because you failed misserably in the last fight. Since "The Judgement" was upon you, and you couldn't stop him, he suceed on his plan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHF08OmeQdk

I want to try to change his boss battle music, but this shit is insanely good.
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>>153032715
Not really. Hunter, Mage and Occultist require you to pay attention and think, while as Cannon you're smashing your keys and can clear anything.
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>>153033045
Alright. Thanks I'll probably try out cannon again.

Was thinking occultist would be a good choice with those heals from skills.
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>Solace: If you can't overcome this hardship, your existence has no meaning.

Well, /ammog/. Are you up for the task?
>Solace
>uses Thanatos stuff
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>>153030601
Elsword PvE is already all kinds of fucked up due to the retarded gook mmo system of tying gear power to enhancement levels instead of the gear by itself.

If you have a +11 or above, you can oneshot almost all bosses or at the very least kill them so fast that in any other game it would be considered a joke boss.

In parties with decent gear (+9 - +10 or so) you can kill bosses just as easily. And even when you don't, most bosses have really easy to avoid attacks and the game highlights all the attack hitzones and warns you when a boss is doing a certain attack so all the fights are piss easy.

The stupidest thing about all this is that Elsword's PvE content has been fucked for so long that Elsword players cannot even recognised a reasonable and legitimate boss anymore. They call Solace hard when he's not even close to Dark Souls bosses.
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>>153033581
>I'm bad, the post
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>>153033515
His armour pieces are made from that same bone-like material that the SS weapons are made of. The colour scheme is Thanatos through and through, though.
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@153033667
Not even worth a (you)
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my gook isnt the best, its extremely basic but im very interested in revelation online

can i get by with some handholding? is the game fun? is it fun solo?
for BnS I got by with the random group finder shit. is it a similar situation?
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>>153033667
>i'm bad, the post
>post states that bosses can be easily killed because they're piss easy

Are you retarded or do you just lack the ability to read?
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>>153032151
>Rose survives
Too bad she's not as good in her own game though.
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>>153033581
>dark souls bosses
>hard
yeah, maybe for the 90% casual audience that makes up the majority of the games industry
not for anyone with half a brain
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>>153030601
That's KoG for you. And people have the audacity to compare it to dark souls.
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>>153034330
Not sure how I was implying in any way that Dark Souls bosses are hard.

Riddle me this - if you think that Dark Souls bosses aren't hard for anyone with half a brain, then what does that make Elsword bosses?
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>>153034462
harder than dark souls bosses
because the skill of the player is less effective on elsword bosses than dark souls bosses
elsword PvE is not a skill game, it's a gear game. elsword bosses are not like dark souls bosses; if you are poorly geared, you will sit there chipping away at a health bar for millenia whilst having to avoid every hit.

unless you're actually considering multiplayer, which is stupid to do, because multiplayer in souls turns the game into a joke as well
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>>153035121
That's a good point but it doesn't make it "harder", that just means it's poorly designed. That would be the equivalent of being given shoddy controls to make the game harder and the only way to get your normal controls back is through a DLC that costs $400. If a game like that existed you wouldn't call it hard, you'd call it a poorly designed piece of shit.

And that's exactly what Elsword is. Shit.
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>>153036205
it is a poorly designed piece of shit but, given a similar level of familiarity with both games, elsword bosses are more difficult than dark souls bosses with most gear, and then far easier when you get up there in terms of gear.

but it's an mmo, and that's what mmos do. i still vastly prefer it over FFXIV's combat, which was balanced when i played to the point where playing each DPS class optimally resulted in negligible damage differences between them
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>>153035121
Then that's not harder, just tedious. Also you're greatly exaggerating because at least on NA getting sufficient gear to be able to kill bosses in less than 3 minutes as well as allow you to take at least 10 hits is extremely easy. It's probably even easier in KR.

And if you're going to exclude multiplayer, why even play an MMO at all? Might as well just play an SP RPG.

If the dungeons have party tools like matchmaking and whatnot then it should be designed for party play.
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>>153036994
can you not read? multiplayer turns both games into a joke, so i don't include it in bullshit theorycrafting like this
i mean if you're going to include multiplayer then dark souls is piss easy
anywho, my definition apparently includes all variations of difficulty, whereas yours is limited to whatever you want it to be in order to appear right, so i don't see any point in continuing this conversation...as if there was ever any point
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>>153036846
>with most gear
with what? an unupgraded non-boss weapon from 30 levels ago?

you're lying and exaggerating out of your ass

if you're levelling, boss weapons are cheap and easy to find and you can upgrade them to at least +5 if not +6 easily using stones the game gives you for killing trash mobs. this should be enough for you to kill bosses at your level range very very easily

don't even talk about endgame because the power creep there is absurd
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>>153037201
Don't forget mounts, party buffs, NPC's, orbs, even items, event titles, etc, etc.
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>>153037201
you are completely missing the point of the conversation, retard
>dark souls bosses are harder than elsword
this has nothing to do with the relativity of gear's difficulty to acquire in general, it's whether the process of defeating a boss in elsword is more arduous than defeating a boss in the souls games
and yes, it is, because elsword requires you gear whereas dark souls outright doesn't
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>>153037174
by that logic that means that you'd rank ffxiv difficulty in terms of solo play as well

the vast majority of mmos involve party play, to ignore that aspect when looking at its difficulty is retarded because the very basis of mmo is multiplayer

either way it is still pointless conversation - although for none of the reasons you stated. elsword is a piss easy pve game whether you solo or party. even if we look purely at solo play, the difficulty does not change significantly
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>>153037427
what a stupid idea. ffxiv's combat isn't built around dodging enemy attacks as a main form of defense like dark souls and elsword, so it makes no sense to include it as a comparison.
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>>153037417
it's an rpg of course you have to factor in reasonable and level-appropriate gear in and rpg you fucking retard

using that fucked-up logic you could say that pokemon is the hardest most impossible game ever because you couldn't beat the elite 4 with a fucking ratata

you are basically saying that elsword is hard because you do no damage and get oneshotted for using no equipment at all

what the fuck
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>>153037561
that's exactly right
so you've jumped into this conversation with no idea what you're talking about have made a fool of yourself
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.... So what are you doing in your game RN?
>pic related, absolutely nothing
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>>153037631
So what you're trying to say is that an Elsword boss with appropriately levelled gear is more difficult than a dark souls boss with appropriately levelled gear?
From what level? I wouldn't exactly call Elder difficult.
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>>153037631
What's the point of comparing either game if you're not going to factor in gear? Hell why are we comparing Elsword to DS in the first place?
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>>153037964
you should read >>153037561 which was what he was replying to

he's not even considering level-appropriate gear

he's saying elsword is hard WITH NO GEAR EQUIPPED WHATSOEVER
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>>153037964
probably ran onwards is where i'd consider the mechanics to start being stacked unfairly against the player, because most bosses make extensive use of super armour and nuke attacks

>>153038003
mainly to make the point that DS is easier because, not even comparing combat, starter gear in DS is enough for any boss in the game, whereas elsword requires you enhance your gear in order to defeat a boss in a reasonable amount of time, let alone steamroll it.
thus, by virtue of having this additional preparation step, it is more difficult.

and then you get into combat, where dark souls has a freely usable roll which renders you invincible, the ability to parry bosses, cheese abilities...
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>>153038167
That's not what I'm reading.

>>153038342
I'd say you're probably right, then.
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>>153038167
Who in their right mind would play Elsword without any gear? This argument doesn't make sense at all as you need to factor in what the average player goes through in these type of situations instead of "what if". No player is going to purposely gimp themselves, and if they did that wouldn't be the true experience. If you factor all of these elements in you'd see that there's now way in hell Elsword has harder bosses than DS. You may as well argue which game is the hardest if you were to play 1 handed despite being out of the picture when it comes to your average person playing the game.
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>>153038427
>i can't kite
>i can't strafe
>i can't parry
>i can't even roll
you would have to be braindead to think dark souls has difficult combat
elsword's combat is piss easy as well. the only difficulty that comes from either game is if you're only using a +5 weapon of the same level range you're dungeoning in, soloing a boss will take forever whereas that isn't the case in dark souls. by virtue of this, elsword is harder, in a retarded fashion.
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>>153038662
I kind of see what you're getting at, but the skill level required to master rolling, parrying and kiting to the point where you experience little to no difficulty takes longer to achieve than it does a +7 scroll in Elsword.
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>>153038662
Doesn't matter, that's still not what the average player is experiencing. Elsword NA (and especially Korea) has extensive hand holding variables that not only makes the game much easier but faster as well. Free +10's elites, mounts, pets, incredibly overpowered event titles - you can't ignore all of these factors that contribute to the player experience just for the sake of having an argument. These are all part of the game; like it or not.
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Can we stop talking about elsword?

I'd rather the thread 404
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>>153038954
i see. so you're saying the vast majority of players have these +10 elites, mounts, pets and incredibly overpowered event titles?
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>>153039021
seriously lol
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>>153038954
In no way are those common occurrences. All that shit you're talking about is timed anyway, and most events require a retarded amount of grinding or payment.
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>>153039023
Yes? NA constantly has events that either give you an elite +10, pets, 7 day mounts, or hell fuck all of the bosses and head straight into level 80 through a level boost. Korea is even worse as they have weekly events that give you end game goods simply by logging in.
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>>153000763
PS TS>PS AK>OS TS>OS AK
private serv ts is new, challenging and unlike OS, there are almost no goldseller bots. We are ahead in content and have fair shops, and most of the people interested in these 2 games are playing this right now

PS AK is almost a "done game", as in, content will be released over longer periods of time, as opposed to TS(1-2 week cycles) or old AK(2 week cycles); to maintain its longetivity. Ingame shops (IRL money, ingame money and AH) are all miles ahead of OS, just like TS.

OS TS is behind in content, has goldselling bots and AH prices are through the roof, so you'll have to grind way more than on PS to get same kind of results

OS AK is on par if not ahead in content, but majority of the playerbase are goldselling bots, cash shops suck and for one good end game gear piece you'll have to pay up to 600x more than on PS (yes, they go for 60k+ on OS, which is insane)
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>>153039123
why would anyone lie like this, though?
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>>153039219
Do you really expect anyone to take this seriously? You're full of shit.
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>>153039283
Meant for >>153039123
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>>153038379
i said

>you are basically saying that elsword is hard because you do no damage and get oneshotted for using no equipment at all

and he said
>that's exactly right

maybe you should read harder then

>>153038342
>ran onwards
are you seriously having fucking difficulty with ran, whose attacks have tells that are seconds-long and he spends half the fight standing in one spot not attacking you?

superarmor does not matter when they take ages to use their attacks, which are very very easy to dodge. karis about to use dark light? just jump on the higher platforms and wait it out. ignia about to use meteor shower? run to the other end of the room and sit there for a couple of seconds

scar, the last boss in lanox cannot even oneshot players with rank appropriate gear using his most powerful attacks. with a mix between +0 to +5 elite-level lanox armor, he was doing less than a fifth of my health with his sword attack which can be dodged entirely by jumping

stop talking out of your ass

if you think it's easy to cheese in dark souls, in elsword any special active grants you invincibility, which means you can dodge and attack at the same time in addition to any other dodging active you may have. you can awaken for that as well. you can use freezing attacks like blizzard shower, freezing arrow or a water orb to freeze bosses in their tracks. retarded shit like oriax which makes every attack deal 1 damage to you and grant you superarmor. evac, which grants you whole seconds of iframes
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>>152919272
It was only 10 days remikiddo
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>>153039240
>lie
How? Maybe I exaggerated a bit but how are you going to sit here and honestly pretend all the freebie shit players receive doesn't impact the state of the game?
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Why don't you Elsword cucks just go re-create the general?
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Ugh shut up no one cares about shitty Elsword or your arguement
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>>153039460
...and dark souls, which gives you as many iframes as you want on demand for very little cost as long as you're not retarded. or, you can just parry attacks if you don't feel like moving.

not to mention, skill freeze in elsword stops boss animations, so at best you've bought a few seconds to consider how much damage the attack you're about to eat will do to you.

>>153039608
>Maybe I exaggerated a bit
lmao you don't say
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>>153033581
Yeah, but this last boss though. It genuinely sounds near impossible to kill fast enough.
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>>153037923
not thicc enough
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>>153039608
So if I log in right now, I'll get this stuff you've talked about in the mail, right?
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>>153039460
>scar, the last boss in lanox cannot even oneshot players with rank appropriate gear using his most powerful attacks.
What the fuck? Scar can easily oneshot most players with his darkfall attack or whatever it was called.
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Alright, this thread has gone full autism. I'll be dicking around in Mabi until things blow over.
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>>153039860
No you dumbfuck, I was referring to events players regularly go through. Right now NA has a log in event that gives you a strong accessory, not counting all the other shit that's happening. Korea has a henir event, a pvp event, and a rose event that undeniably helps players.

I wasn't even talking to you anyway, stop butting in trying to make yourself relevant by being a cunt out of nowhere. Fuck off.
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>>153039783
>skill freeze in elsword stops boss animations
this all but confirms that you've never played the game past fucking 2015. skill delays were removed for boss battles since then

please don't talk about the game like you know anything about it if you're not even up-to-date with updates that were more than a year ago

>>153039939
>oneshot
he cannot. before the final hit, he deals a shitton of low-damage hits which will always give you more than enough mp to manabreak
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Maplestory is the hardest mmo
prove me wrong
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Can't we all just agree that Elsword is shit and move on? This is starting to look like what /elg/ was right before it sank.
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>>153040092
>has a log in event that gives you a strong accessory,
What is this, the Eltrion accessory set? That's strong to you?
That's a piece of shit, and you're both lying and exaggerating to try and prove a moot point.
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>>153039691
Because they are scared of one person shatting the general.

Also circlejerk. Just embrace it, Elsword is here to rule this general.
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>>153040202
>the eltrion accessory is the only accessory that has ever been given through events
You're clearly retarded, at least the other anon makes compelling arguments. I'm done replying to you.
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>>153039814
I'm trying, man :c
There's only so much cheese those tiny pixels can take
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>>153040146
this coming from the guy that finds souls bosses hard despite endless iframes at your disposal at any given time.
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>>153040284
You yourself said right now there's a strong accessory, and the accessory being handed out right now is the Eltrion set. You consider that strong. It is not strong. Ergo, you are a retard, and one that apparently cannot read.
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>>153040402
please find me the post that said i find dark souls bosses hard

actually, please find me a post from this entire thread, not just me, anyone, who said that they found dark souls bosses hard

i'll wait
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>>153040472
i stopped replying to him because he's retarded. you should do the same

>>153040479
this entire discussion started over a whether or not elsword bosses were harder than dark souls bosses here >>153033581
so you've been looking like an idiot this entire time without even knowing what you're arguing for
nicely done
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You all look like idiots lol
literally spent an hour and a half of your lives arguing about some bullshit nobody cares about
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>>153040683
And we all spent probably hundreds of hours on characters that are just going to be deleted when the servers finally die
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i wouldn't mind seeing this thread 404 just so elsword players can crawl back from the shithole they came out of
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>>153040610
that wasn't me

also he said that elsword was easier than dark souls, not that dark souls is hard

it's like saying fractions is harder than additions but no normal adult is going to find either particularly hard

or that a polished turd looks nicer than fresh steamy diarrhea, but neither is likely to win any aesthetic awards

reading comprehension, am i right?
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>never ever
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>>153040816
This is why I hate MMOs. But I can't stop eat— playing them.
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A-am I Thicc™ yet?
Body shapes in this game make so much sense lmao
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>>153040860
he implied that dark souls had "reasonable and legitimate bosses", and that solace "wasn't even close to dark souls bosses". with a little reading comprehension (no wonder you can't understand it, then), this infers that he holds respect for dark souls bosses as proper boss fights.
what is a boss fight? it's a fight significantly more difficult than normal enemies that puts what you've learned so far to test.
ergo, he finds dark souls bosses challenging. i argue that they are not as challenging as elsword bosses because taking the easily exploited mechanics of each game out of the equation, by virtue of having an additional requirement in gear, elsword has "tougher" bosses. he argued that the gear step was inconsequential and did not make for true "difficulty". you argued something entirely irrelevant and dribbled on your keyboard while doing so.
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>>153041058
Good enough. I never played mabinogi, but someone said your character ages in game? Does that mean your character gets taller too or what?
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>>153040860
Just stop replying to him.
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>>153041269
Yep, you age up every week, from 10-25, but you stop getting taller at 18
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>>153041256
Kek, passive aggressive
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>>153041452
do you actually disagree or are you just offering non-replies?
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>>153041502
No, you're right, I'm just laughing at this slowly escalating battle over what was a needless discussion in the first place
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wow I was surprised to see dragon nest on the list here. I play it every like, half a year for the

story but I saw something about it going back to the developer itself.

does this mean theres hope?

or am I the only one that (rarely) plays this garbage
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>>153041058
I-I can't stop
My hips are the same width as my shoulders
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>>153040264
>elsword is here to rule this general
holy fuck I cringed, you must be a gigantic faggot
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>>153041981
we own you
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@ 153041981
Not even worth a (you).
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>>153041981
This general would be dead if not for Elsword.
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>>153041256
i don't know why we're even arguing about another person's points but sure why not

first of all he didn't imply that dark souls had reasonable and legitimate bosses. he merely said elsword did not have it and that its final boss couldn't even compare with dark souls bosses. but that statement holds true whether or not he considered dark souls bosses reasonable or legitimate so it cannot be taken to imply that

and secondly, two replies down the reply chain he explicitly refuted that he implied dark souls bosses were hard, so why are you continuing to push that stupid belief? because you can't read reply chains more than one post long?

i don't see what's so irrelevant about pointing out that using a cherry-picked and blatantly unreasonable scenario to prove that elsword is hard is retarded. i said that level-appropriate gear is easy to get which is true. i also said that with level-appropriate gear, you generally do not take more than three minutes to kill a boss and you generally can take about ten hits from a boss, which is also true given that a lot of bosses do their attacks with a lot of multihits, feeding you free mp to manabreak

these two points both refuted your assertion that 'elsword bosses are more difficult than dark souls bosses with most gear', because the most common scenario for the average levelling player is boss weapon with elite-level armor for the current town, and in that scenario my two points hold true. i did not go into endgame because endgame is even more broken with +8 and up enhancement being easily obtainable and you have secret dungeon sets which are far more powerful than boss weapons and elite-level town armor
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>>152898074
this is your sister tonight
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>>153042172
i'm talking about how he said it, not what he said

"elsword is here to rule this general"

he sounds like a friendless autistic manchild that just discovered the internet and anime for the first time
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>>153005629
It's a support class for a reason. Not every game is like DN.
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>>153042197
autism
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>>153042197
>blatantly unreasonable scenario
in order to compare two different games, you have to match the parallels...
>. i also said that with level-appropriate gear, you generally do not take more than three minutes to kill a boss and you generally can take about ten hits from a boss
it will take you longer than 3 minutes, and 3 minutes is a millenia. this only gets more pronounced as you move up the chain, culminating in solace being a battle of gear, which is the boss we were using as thought fodder.
>which is also true given that a lot of bosses do their attacks with a lot of multihits, feeding you free mp to manabreak
no; most bosses in the later stages do not feed enough mp back in multihits to make it worth tanking the damage to get the 100mp back. good luck tanking solace's hits, too.
>and in that scenario my two points hold true.
they do not.
>i did not go into endgame
and i have never brought up endgame gear into the situation either, because powercreep renders you ridiculously strong, far stronger than endgame gear does in dark souls.
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This is lame, bye
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>>153042792
Yeah, see you in an hour.
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I can see this general dying in a few days already.

And nothing of value was lost.
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>>153042887
well it seems pretty dead apart from the elshitposters

I asked once about dragon nest, but thats it. im probably the only person here that plays/played it.

havnt really interest in the others because im a huge faggot playing wow, at least for a little until that inevitably goes to shit.
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>>153043000
>elsposters
Yeah all 3 of them.
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>>153043042
How nice of us to keep this general alive for you with only 3 people, then. Seeing as we own the place, can you leave and find your own general?
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>>153043129
Why is it so hard for you to re-create the Elsword general?
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>>153043403
This is it?
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>>153043403
Why is it so hard for you to create a mabinogi or twin saga general? Oh, because you wouldn't post in it and it'd die.
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Osna Sail is just the worst place for merchants. It's so narrow that avoiding bandits is very difficult, not to mention the wolves that aggro easily and will join in a fight if bandits appear.
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>>153043658
And you're SoL when field bosses show up
That's why you commerce in groups
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>>153043691
We don't have the manpower for that mate. That would at least two prole playing this game at the same time.
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Let's be honest, guys. Come on. Elsword is the best game here, isn't it? Don't lie to yourself.
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Time for me to revive the Elsword general.
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Time to log in on Mabi.
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Those music skills in Mabi seem pretty damn useful, so I'm making that my next goal. I'm thinking about going for singing first, then once at the point where I don't need a mic anymore I'll switch to instruments. Hoe does that sound?

I should also point out I'm kinda new too, so if it requires a major investment or something like magic not be able to do it. Or at least, not yet. Any advice?
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>>153045080
Switch to Elsword.
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>>153045080
Music gets kinda boring, to train playing instrument and singing I just turned on auto play and afk'd for a long while. Everyone should have rank 1 basic combat skills like smash, counterattack and defense, have you got those down?
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>>153045171
Make Code Nemesis and Code Electra not shit, then we'll talk.

No, less shit does not stop them from still being shit.

>>153045257
Not yet, but I'm getting close with some of them at least. My other choice was maybe martial arts/knuckles. I'd like to get something good for groups though. Every time I get attacked by bandits its a damn 4 v 1 battle. I can handle each one individually but the second I get attacked by more than one I'm fucked. It's also really annoying when one of them is an archer or spell caster. Going for them first makes the melee guys interrupt you and vice versa, and I need to kill them quickly before other bandits run away with my precious cargo.

Apparently magic and alchemy are good for that, but they're things you get later? But if I can put enemies to sleep then I can mop them all up individually real easily.
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>>153045080
>>153045257
The singing sounds horrible. I hope you don't use that in public.

>HA A EE O HA A O EE
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>>153045597
>Code Electra
Is this 2012?

Also fuck you, don't remind me. Add comes out and just invalidates Eve. Queen of Nasod my ass. Why can't they make her god damn normals more satisfying, those drone punches are just pathetic.
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>>153045597
Code Battle Seraph is the best character in the game.
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>>153045621
Fine, I'll sing in my Homestead or some remote corner of Iria then.

>>153045718
I couldn't remember her name correctly, but eh. I've never tried Add, but I should one day just so I can understand the butthurt. Maybe. It's kinda hard to get motivated enough to play with that "incentive".

>>153045751
You think so? I tried out all the Eves and I really don't see a reason to not go Empress. She's the best by a mile.
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>>153045597
Nemesis is okay now though
>Can lower cooldowns and gain mp via Core proc
>Gains a lot of mana when hit, applies to mana convert
>Skills like Junk Break aren't rubbish anymore
>Add. Damage buff and crit buff are 1 skill now
> >>^ZXX is a nice normal to have
And after transcendence she gets a passive for Queen's throne which buffs skill damage, MP regen and special active cooldowns for 2 skills.

She still suffers from standard eve problems like shit defenses and shit normals though.
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>>153045874
Nah, Empress is a slower clearer and worse in PvP.
But a lower skill cap, so fair game.
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>>153045874
It's not that I dislike Add. I liked Accelerator so obviously I would like a ripoff as much. LP's design is garbage though, and DE is 2edgy.
But damn, he's actually very satisfying to play and has that alternative awk with cool animations and finisher combos. Considering that one is QoN and the other is a boy who accidentally time, it's just unfair.

Seulbi is Eve done right.
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Remember that Add is based.
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What's going to happen to my body if I eat 50 potatoes at once?
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>>153046980
succ
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>>153046980
You'll start enjoying Elsword.
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>>153046980
You get red hair
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nigga let me in the guild
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>>153045257
>counterattack and defense,
Literally why. You'll never need anything beyond the starting ranks if you have R1 windmill.
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>>153047656
training windmill is the worst

defense is shit btw useless
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>>153047798
It's a fucking piece of cake nowadays. Just don't touch anything other than windmill to keep your CP low and you won't even need to grind zombies to get shit done, since even goblins in Ciar or skellies in Rabbie will do well enough.
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So elbros, do you want to reborn the general? The last general was quite some time ago. Also, there are a lot of things to discuss, such as the future of the game and all the bullshit that CN is causing in PvP.
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>>153048615
Nope.
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>>153048615
So you can go ruin it again? Nope.
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>>153048615
>Elsword is too big for /ammo/
>But too small for its own general

Maybe make a Discord or something instead then.
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>>153047656
>Not ranking counter
It's like you don't even want stats
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>>153046035
In PVP, Eve's >>X is quite possibly the best normal in the game. Does 500% magic damage, low cost, feeds nothing, and has a negative KD value for true infinite. You can also optionally enhance it with MDA too. Also difficult to get a perfect mana break.
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ok so should i play mabinogi or elsword
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>>153049928
mabinogi and ERP with me
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>>153049928
maybe both
i havent played elsword in many years but it was good

i found mabinogi to be better overall but enjoy 1 update a year with minimal content

sadly mabinogi has the best combat/skills system in MMO history
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>>153049928
Elsword.
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>>153050004
my fetishes are too weird for u anon
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>>153049928
Personally I preferred Mabinogi. Like, the thing about Elsword is that it changes very slowly. You'll be doing the same dungeons over and over using the same combat stye over and over. Things only really change when you get your class changes, but they're far and few between so you just end up adjusting to a slightly different combat style than you were using before.

At least with Mabinogi I can do whatever the fuck I want. Maybe I don't even feel like fighting today. I'll go play an instrument or craft some clothes or do a commerce route or go fishing or write a book or try cook some food or....

Like, Mabinogi is pretty fucking grindy but at least you can choose what you want to grind and you can swap at any time. With Elsword, you're going to be grinding at the same thing over and over and over again.
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>>153050173
Not that anon but I used to take commissions and write erotic fanfiction for people. There's no way any fetish you have is weirder than the shit people wanted me to write. Like, the last thing I wrote was fallopian tube fucking. You know, the little tube inside a woman's womb that connects to her ovaries? Where her egg cells go down to get to the womb? Futanari tentacle fallopian tube fucking. That's literally not even something I even heard of until I got that commission. The entire thing was lolis too.
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>>153050295
idk im into abdl and furry tho
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>>153050605
Furry is almost vanilla as far as I'm concerned, it's just normal fucking except everyone is an animal. It's like, a step up (down?) from monster girls I guess and not a lot of people have an issue with them. Diapers are... eh, I don't really care about them. As long as it doesn't devolve into scat or something I guess.
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>not playing mabinogi where you can compose your favorite meme songs and play them in front of an audience
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>not grinding fat tits and THICC thighs in mabinogi
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Turns out Solace is a puzzle fight.
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>>153049675
You don't fucking grind counter for stats until you finish half of the production skills. The DEX is not worth the amount of CP that you get with it if you're still a beginner.
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>>153051140
Calm down.
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>>153051140
You mean refining? Relax nigger.
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Mabinogi broke me. I was fine with combat skills, metallurgy and refining, but I shearing and silk farming for weaving eventually drove me insane. As much as I otherwise love the game, I can't even think of ever going back.
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Is Yotsuba inactive?
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>>153051562
so dont do them? in regards to stats you dont really have to do some of the more tedius life skills anymore. though life skills are a lot easier now since you can choose to have 2x talent xp in them for a week for free

also since ap is way less of an issue these days always going for higher ap/stat skills isnt neccesary
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>>153039547
it was well over 2 weeks worth of a rollback
>mfw noxfag still posting

Still got no one to play with huh? top cuckholds famdino
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>>153039860
yes, you Will

In KR

>>153040264
Shut the fuck up Tomoka
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How do you play Aisha/EM on PvP? Or it's DW a better character for that task?
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>>153054163
1. Meditate
2. Stand still and charge mana.
3. Lightning Bolt when they come close.
4. XZZ all day when catch
5. Repeat until winner.
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>>153050845
>being a fat fag
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>>153054261
This guy has it right.
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>>153054261
Although, ZZX~X is better than XZZ if you have the opportunity to use it. It's king of 1v1.
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>>153051586
Yes and no.
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>>153054357
>Being a fat mexican
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I made SS! I never thought I'd get this far as a laggy Australian EM spamming chain lightning and magic missile in 2v2!
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>SMT: Imagine is dead
>Wizardry Online is dead
>No private servers for either of them
The only two games that were as fun as Mabinogi and that very well could be on the chopping block too.
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>>153056478
That's why people still play Mabinogi after 12 fucking years.
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>>153056030
>gets mad when people diss fat fags
>calls people fat
I dont know if youre trying to praise me or insult me at this point
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>>152905570
I think Mari is where most /v/ players are.
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>>153056643
I'm telling you that you are the last person that should be calling anyone fat.
Go get chased by the cartel you fucking whale
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>FML all people I know stopped playing mabi, and Mari is underpopulated now.
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>>153056667
The original MabiGen with Moeka, Sunny, Marisa, and Aki were all on Mari.

Although the newer interations of MabiGen are mostly on Alexina nowadays.
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>>153056762
I find hilarious how you actually fool yourself for not having anything to insult me for that you trully think im fat.
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>>153057109
Wait, mariel are you a boy and a mexican?
Where the fuck do you even live.
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>>153057109
It's widely known that you're fat until proven otherwise
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>>153057267
I live on the stars, out of your reach.
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>>153057548
Si si spic, donde vives? Y porque shitposteas sin razon aparente?
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>>153056942
Would it be worth moving over to Alexina playerbase wise from Mari?
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>>153056625
Why did Vindictus have to be a spiritual successor...
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>>153058297
In terms of playerbase it's Alexina with the largest, followed by Mari, Ruairi, and then Tarlach.
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>>153058640
>Tarlach
Holy shit, I forgot about that server
It must be virtually empty now
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>>153058640
I'll have to check if it's worth abandoning my toon for Alexina.
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Screw this, this event thinks im some sort of barbie girl.

I want blue stuff! BLUE!
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Um how many people are usually online in the Twin Saga guild?
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>>153059551
average should be around 8, with most of them being afk
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>>153018528
>Next update
So pretty much 2 months or so? I know its in beta but havent tested it out.
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>>153061470
The scenes play the same way as Mizugi Island, so if you enjoyed that, get it.

Also wrong thread.
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ded gaems
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>>153058839
It is. But some delusionals still claim it's "fine."
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>>153060748
Is there any class the guild needs now?
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>>153066130
I need you
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>>153066130
you can switch classes at any given time anyway, so just level with a sword and then change to whatever we'll need
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>>153066785
>>153066824
Does Lorn play this game?
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>>153067168
no, our guild currently is and probably will remain Lorn free
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>>153067168
who?
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>>153066130
A class that can save the game from dying.
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>>153067361
He was the best autist in the galaxy. And a cunning warrior.

He was a good friend.
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What are some good boots i could use with the battle shool uni F?
The actual boots that belong to the set don't look good.
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What about Eden Eternal? I remember playing that shit.
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>>153069870
it's ded, because people moved to AK, then quit AK because it was shit and never came to ee again either.
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>>153068906
Ella strap boots? The fit with everything.
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>>153070945
She has a pair but, it looks a bit off.
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>>153071089
Flamerider maybe?

The leg decoration makes it hard because it instantly shows the boots are not part of the set.
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>>152973850
when will these fucking overpriced founder packs die
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Is there another game coming with the same class system as Eden Eternal?

That class system was easily the best class system I've played in any mmo
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>>153072765
twin saga. The difference is that your gear is shared between classes
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>>153068906
>Battle School Boots don't look good
Your poor taste aside, keep on trying medium-length boots, like Battleborn Shoes, Urban Boots or (if you have too much gold) Saber Leather Shoes.
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So if Mabinogi 2 were to be an actual thing what features should be brought back from the orignal and what should be improved or remade entirely?
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>>153073307
Weapon/armor values, i find good that in mabinogi (before the super OP gacha gear) it was viable to pick daggers if you wanted to use final fit as your main battle resource, its something no other MMO has, usually you find the "blasting sword of awesomeness" that you love then level 5 times and get to find the next wrod, ditching the previous one forever without any concern.
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>Marielx

Thanks for killing ragnarok threads you cunt.
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>>153074283
Youre welcome.
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I think we all should bully marielx
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>>153073307
What should stay: the general sandboxy feeling (no skill restrictions, no set order of playing through things).
What should go: everything else.
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>>153073307
Would be nice if life skills got reworked to be less mind-numbingly dull to grind. Not necessarily easier, but at least have an actual element of "fun" to them.
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>>153075454
>not just filtering the tripfag
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10
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>>153056478
Isn't SMT:Imagine still up in Japan or something? I thought they only shut down the NA servers.
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>TS
>focus on Haste thinking it'll reduce cooldowns
>instead it speeds up the animation
>feel like a dummy
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>>153081182
Normal cooldown can only be reduced by Starstones and spec nodes. Haste makes you autoattack faster and reduces the global cooldown of your skills so you can press the next one without delay and charge skills faster.

It's actually a good stat for a few classes, but not the main stat you should focus.
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>>152897840
http://pastebin.com/z4pQNHBG is tagging Homebrew General in the catalog. I know this is a lot to ask, but would it be possible to roll a different url on that?
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>>153083898
No
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Anyone play Wakfu?
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So how good's berserker in ts? Worth unlocking? Paladin seems to be the only melee worth leveling to me since you can self sustain.
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>>153086174
Deals quite a bit of damage but since you're melee you'll suffer a lot of deaths on the harder stuff unless you're over geared.
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>>153086174
swordmaster is self sustainable too with higher tier nodes that recover hp
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>>153086174
Berserker actually has a lot of self sustain, but not until Level +63.

At first I didn't like it but after I made a proper rotation for it I ended up liking the class. It's a class made for crowd control of normal mobs. You have three stuns and you're meant to rotate between them to pull and stunlock huge crowds of mobs, keeping your party members safe.

The self sustain I was talking about is 15% HP recovery every time you spend your rage stacks (every 4 seconds or so), this helps a lot since you're getting healed by simply using your skills. If you die you can revive with 50% hp once every two minutes. A shield that can withstand 10k damage and +3% ATK and DEF every time you are attacked, which stacks 10 times.
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>>153085397
I want to get back to it when the new content arrives.
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>guns in a fantasy game
Disgusting!
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>>153089169
Fuck off. Guns are old as fuck, predating even plate armor. There is literally nothing wrong with guns being present in a fantasy setting..
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>>153089169
Guns deliver waifus that are only for consensual impregnation leglocking in the missionary position.

With a lot of hand holding.
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why is ts.to such a laggy piece of shit server?
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>>153090557
There are lag spikes here and there due to Aeria and the other private server DDoSing the server.
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>>153090813
nice conspiracy theory there m9
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>>153090813
>other private server
is there another?
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>>153090985
If you're not gonna believe the answer people give you then don't ask in the first place.
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>>153091003
Yes.

http://ts.vendettagn.com/
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>>153091457
do people even play there?
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>>153061242
2 months, yeah. The last major update was at the start of July, and there was a 3 month gap between that and the update before it.
I'm sure as fuck not going back to screaming in front of dark spore until I get a party of 6, which is how I left off the last time I played.
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>>153091914
Not as many people as the other server. When the server launched (one day before ts.to) they announced they were gonna wipe all beta progress so people were discouraged and went to the other one. They have higher rates and a bit more of content (which ts.to is getting very soon) but worse server management, as impossible as that sounds.
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Summer!
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I'm gonna download LaTale.
How fun is it compared ot Maplestory?
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>>153079883
It is, but I'd feel like a BR jumping into another region like that.
Felt the same way when I played PSO2
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>>153090813
>other private server DDoSing the server
Is that why this download speed is so shit?
I started this last night and it's still on sound files
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>>153100310
just download the manual patch senpai
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>>153100310
>it's still on sound files
save yourself the trouble, download the manual patch before it errors.
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>>153099362
if you dont live near the server its unplayable.
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>>153099362
>not playing Elsword like everyone else
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>>152990563
No, we aren't.

>>152990693
Merging generals is more cancerous desu ne.

>>153021095
It was fake.

>>153024746
It was pure shitposting, we don't know if he has autism or not.
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>>153100719
>implying 80% of this general isn't mabinogi
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>>153103148
>deluding yourself
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>>153103148
>replying to Elsword posters
Just don't, for whatever reason they're being massive entitled cunts.
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Elsword fags are the worst.
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Best game, best girl
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Cutest pet
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bye
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>>153111624
goodbye anon
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not ded
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>>153114112
>2009
Game is dead, Jim.
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>>153107473
slut
not that i mind
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>>153114328
Not even private servers can save it
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Fuck off Mabinogi is the best MMORPG of all time besides WoW. Vanilla and WotLK were the nest xpacs. Best Mabinogi xpac was WOD.
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>>153115792
Wow is shit. And RS is still the best MMO in the west.
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>>153115047
Mabinogi private servers aren't really a thing yet. There is a project going on called Aura that is trying to make private server files, but they only got up to G1 content.
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This thread was kind of comfy
No, not really.
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>>153085397
Yes. Want to /lewd/?
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Hey dudes, Just started Elsword with Lu/Ciel.

Anything I can expect or anyone have any kind of optimal build suggestions?
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>>153117702
Make anew character.
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>>153117702
Choose another game.
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>>153117702
If youre on NA, they should be due for their next class in 2 weeks, builds don't really matter since you get every skill, but you should always run flick shot.
Noblesse a best
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>>153115994
Honestly a mabi private server would be great even if they didn't have all the content since you'd have to start over anyway.

A private server could possibly fix the lag.
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>>153119852
Custom content is also really easy to do, so Private Servers could also fix some of the flaws with Mabinogi.
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>>153119135
>Noblesse a best
Shit taste.
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>>153120526
Only gameplay-wise
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So does Fishingkingdom still exist? I'm not comfortable joining other guilds
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>>153122171
We're all at TS now.

Guild is FishingRealm.
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Is TwinSaga worth a damn? It looks incredibly generic. What's up with the class unlocks, can you change classes on a character or do you have to make a new once to the new class once you unlock it?

Do you people play on the private server or the official one?
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>>153120832
>Pic not even Noblesse
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>>153124270
That sucks. Hopefully some other guild will take me in.
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>>153125092
Interested as well. If the combat is tab targeting or hotkey face rolling Im probably not going to bother downloading
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>>153125218
>reading comprehension
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>>153117702
I haven't played Elsword in about half a year, so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt, but don't be a faggot and only main one of the characters. Use their ridiculous mana pool and gain to spam out skills to build their CP gauge to spam their combination attacks.

However, that said, Dreadlord gives Lu more toys to play with while Noblesse is more about Ciel's machine gun.

If you want outdated info on Dreadlord, just reply.

Chilliarch is cuter than Noblesse
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>>153125263
Its aura kingdom without lifesteal weaps.
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Ignore shitposters.
Play mabinogi.
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>>153126283
I don't really get the comparison but from a quick gameplay video it looks kinda like Tera in that you dont lock on to attack. Is that a safe comparison?
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>>153127652
>you don't lock on to attack
heh
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anyone down for some maplestory?

official is dead and pay2win

so i'd be down for some private server
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>>153126283
>memecannon
>lv65 gold weap soon
without
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>>153127982
Care to explain or no? I didn't see a lock on but I could be wrong.
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>>153128072
it's tab targeting and hot key face rolling.
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>>153127991
Pre or postBB?
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>>153128175
Thanks anon. Now I know not to bother with it.

Shame. I was looking for a new ammo
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>>153125092
There's a few classes you have to unlock with in game items but other than that you can swap classes freely outside of combat and there's only one weapon shared by all classes.
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>>153126597
I'd play mabi but the lag is too bad from EU.
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>>153128336
Are the unlockable classes fun? The starters didn't really get me going but Paladin and Occultist looked like they could be fun.
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>>153128562
Lower your mtu
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>>153128562
Too bad EU servers died so quickly.

Also screenshot time, again freaking events thinking im some sort of barbie girl, they give all the outfits on pink, not a single dye used.
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>>153128646
Don't have occultist myself yet its one of the in game unlockable ones along with berserker. Haven't played paladin either, paladin is the tank class though and occultist from what I hear is a DoT/debuff class.
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>>153128750
The what?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8MCg-6Bwuc

JP Elsword PHONE voice.
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>>152911189
I just spotted this post.

...Excuse me?!
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>>153128646
Paladin's good, it's the tank and the damage output isn't bad considering you can regen and heal as well. Also all classes can sub cannon's fireworks bomb for good DoT to supplement your attacks.
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>>153129105
MTU
It's basically the input delay google on how to do it never lower it below 600 and NEVER and I mean never set it to 0 or else you'll break your computer.
Lowering mtu makes the game feel lagless.
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>>153129105
>netsh
>interface
>ipv4
>show subinterface
>set subinteface "[interfacename]" MTU=[MTU] store=persistent

win8 and up can adjust while playing
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MTU effects for mabi
Try 256
Just make a bat file for 256 and 1500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeI473rHKiU
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>>152928647
So I entered Furval's Utopia talked to every npc inside but I have no idea how to start this dungeon.
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>>153128562
I'm from eu too and can play mabi just fine. Crowded places like Dunbarton/Belvast fuck me up but it's just part of the experience.
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>>153135673
Tfw could have a million dollar computer and a full Dunbarton would still fuck my shit up.
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>>153135982
I've heard of people using mods to help mabi run smoother but there's no point in installing them with Nexon's new anti mod rule.
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Anyone playing Onigiri can tell me what is the size of latest game client after installing?

I've installed Onigiri months ago and never played because the game didn't work (full screen bug that crashes the exe), but I finally decided to try again and found a fix, the problem now is that the game needs to update several months of content and I'm on limited internet cap, the download inside the game doesn't show the file size and the speed at which the progress bar advances is pretty slow even though windows task manager says onigiri.exe is downloading at 500 KB/s.

I can't really afford to waste bandwidth randomly, it could help me so much if anyone could tell me what is the latest updated game client total file size, so I can compare with my outdated version and see how much it's gonna need to download.
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>>153137195 (cont)
do it for her... onegai ;_;
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A madman finally did it. They got the true ending.
Also, by adquiring the true ending, you unlock a new title, posted in the image.

>b-but it's impossible!
Lmao git gud scrub.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxdJISntSQg
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>>153138270
Oh btw, to unlock it, you have to get the True ending.

To obtain it completely, adquire SS rank 1000 times.
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>>153138270
Wait, so whatever Solace says at the end there is the true end? That's it?
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>>153139727
>"이 세상의 진실을 너희도 곧 알게 될거다"
>"You're gonna see the truth of this world soon."

This either implies that Elysion is going to have an SD, or that KOG didn't finish the story completely, maybe new stuff.
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So, I'm writing an API to gather info for Dofus/wakfu items since I'm planning on making a set builder for both games (Wakfu-elements died, and dofus planner is garbage). The site I'm planning will be costumag.us (already got the domain name and servers setup, just building my API first then gonna work on the front end)

Would anyone be interested if I released this as a public API so others can make dofus/wakfu tools as well? If I get enough interest I'll start dabbling in market watching too.
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Turns out that weapons from special equipment box gacha have HIGHER stats than the best equivalents you can ever drop/craft yourself.
Why nexon keeps killing their own games?
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>>153142278
Because they're jews
>>
Looks like DNNA people will be able to catch up to 93 cap if the transfer pulls through.
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A wild Windy appears
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>reinstall mabi
>get reminded of the fucking disaster that is inventory management and holding inventory space hostage in mabi
>this in the year of fucking 2016
Is there any easy ways to get more item bags? Seems like most of them are either limited to 1 per type or were only available through some even years ago.
>>
Local albino guy gets the elf for himself.

Yes, Rena x Add it's cannon.
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>>153150218
Why's Rena in that dark elf chick's outfit?
So long as he doesn't get Ara, this is fine
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>>153150041
It's like you're not even trying.
>pets
>mules for more bank space
>events
>specialised bags (like alchemy one, because Hydra id god-tier skill)
Free inv space is raining down on you these days.
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>>153150792
Alternate cannon universe. The LN practically says that Add (Time Tracer) is the MC trying to steal Eve's core as usual, but a certain fox deity gets in his way and they both help each other to get it.

Add actually shows some humanity on this story (since we all know what happens when Time Tracer founds that he can no longer reach to his past), and he basically is getting pussy right and left.

Eun threats Add like a pet, but he has literally seen a lot of naked girls on the story. It's basically "Elsword's story if an extra Add was in there".
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>>153150963
Reminder that free pets don't have bags.
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>>153152069
Perseus
Floofy Broom
all the pets from events

When was the last time you played? 2010?
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>>153099362
>people on /vg/ playing LaTale
finally, I've been waiting for people to play it with forever ;__; time to reinstall
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>>153152668
I didn't even get a broom for finishing the noob quests. Nexon worst company
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>>153150963
>pets
>events
This is where the majority of bag space comes from. So basically I had the play the game for years to be able to have even a decent inventory.
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>>153156009
Or you could like idk fill your entire inventory with bags?
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New bread soon, fellow mabinogi players.
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>>153157667
Kill yourself, mabishitter. This is the Elsword general.
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>>153156009
Nah, event bags pop up several times a year. Not to mention you can buy most of them from other players as well - for example, Lorna bags are rather cheap right now.
But really now, you can make 8 characters and get a Perseus for each one, all for free. If that's not "decent" for you I don't know what to say.
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>>153158007
>he thinks anyone believes his blatant lies
Elshits are so funny.
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>>153158007
More like Mabi general + some other games + Elsword shitposting.
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>>153158007
>>153158405
Time to create a new general, Elsword players.
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>>153158472
We're already here, though? You lot are guests. Act accordingly, and by that I mean apply the lube and assume the position.
>>
>tfw haven't logged in today
>sugar daddy is probably waiting for me
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remove elsword and mabinogi from the thread, if agree reply to this post
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>>153160501
elstists and mabishitters get out reeeeeeeeeeee
>>
How do I become an occultist?
>>
>>153161348
It's a dungeon drop.
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How can there only be 8 hairstyles and most of them shit? Where is the character customization god damn it. Fucking TS
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>>153161884
Which one is it
>>
>>153161910
You can buy premium hairstyles
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>r9 Sakura Abyss
There's no way to speed this shit up without training potions, is there? I spent the double talent/double rainbow weekends training everything else from Ninja to r1 on 16x and it was still fucking shit.
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>>153163741
>complaining about ninja
Haha i want to see you ranking gunslinger

By the way im training ninja as well and yes its beyond suffering.
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>>153163959
I'd still say Ninja is a shit to train, and I've gotten everything in Puppets and Guns to r1.
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>>153163959
It wouldn't even be that bad if Sakura Abyss's cooldown wasn't so fucking long AND it didn't have such a high count requirement. Gunslinger is similarly grindy, but there's less waiting time since you can rotate skills.
>>
anyone making a group in the non private TS
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>>153165181
>TS

People still use that over Discord?
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>>153165964
sick joke anon
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>>153162692
He lied to you.

Occultist isn't available yet.
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>>153166547
It is on the pserv you get it from dragons abbeyance, rare drop though.
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>>153162692
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>>153128256
either, i miss that game
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New bread

>>153171294
>>153171294
>>153171294
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>>153171337
epic
>>
F
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>>153173457
>>153173457
>>153173457
>>153173457
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