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/sthg/ - #547 - Fez Edition
>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK
>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b
>News/Developments<
A Lawsuit Against Archie & SEGA America Has Been Filed By Narrative Ark Entertainment (Scott Fulop)
http://www.tssznews.com/2016/08/02/a-lawsuit-against-archie-sega-america-has-been-filed-by-narrative-ark-entertainment/
http://www.tssznews.com/2016/08/03/archie-lawsuit-documents-scott-fulop-is-plaintiff-cites-almost-1000-examples-of-alleged-copyright-infingement-in-comics/
Sonic Mania Interview with Christian Whitehead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rDCmCd8BVo
Sonic Mania Announcement Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmtYdEWVzo
Project 2017 Announcement Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCh9--2xcKk
Classic Sonic and Green Hill Zone are in Sonic Dash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIFiuBzgkkE
LEGO Dimensions Sonic Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgqMlOMvQNY
Sonic Boom Season 2 Sneak Peak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aew9e6KjbvA
>Recent Releases<
Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games is out now for 3DS and Wii U.
Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice is out for the 3DS on September 27.
The Sonic X seasons 1 and 2 collection will be released September 27.
Sonic Boom's first season has ended! You can watch all of the first season's episodes in English here:
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/sonic-boom
Season 2 will air later this year.
Previous thread >>152690338
Slow
>>152801684
WELL IT'S ABOUT TIME YOU BUMBLING BAGS OF BOLTS!
THESE BUCKETS OF CHICKEN ARE READY TO SHIP!
ALL THEY NEED IS YOUR LAST SHIPMENT OF BUCKETS OF CHICKEN!
What Sonic games are you guys playing?
>>152802126
I plan to restart Unleashed sometime this week.
I approve of this thread title
>>152801993
The characters forgot about the old world. It was wiped out of existence, along with their memories of it.
>>152802126
I've never played Sonic CD before and I'm considering buying it on Steam. Should I?
>>152802126
Plodding through PS3 Unleashed. Really not enjoying it.
>>152802509
That's because no matter how much people say otherwise, Unleashed was a shit game.
>>152802457
And they could easily write them back in. Have you ever read a comic before?
The point is, they're still canon.
Thanks for bringing this up in a fresh new thread btw. Please leave it now.
>>152802497
It's the best version of that game available.
>>152802803
This. Stop arguing about this.
>>152802509
Mind sharing your thoughts more in-depth on it so far?
What are you not liking about it?
>>152802826
Which soundtrack is better, English or Japan?
>>152802457
Tails is cute
A CUTE I SAY
>>152802803
>If someone can write something back in, it's still canon.
you what
>>152803084
Teresa is no definitive soundtrack. Everybody has their own preference. Anybody that tells you "no, [insert region] is objectively better dhouldnt be taken seriously. Plenty of people perfer certain tracks for certain zones from either OST
>>152803084
I lean towards US, but the majority greatly prefer JAP. They are both amazing to me, though.
>>152803262
>the majority
Speak for yourself
>>152803252
>>152803262
Got it. Thanks for answering my questions senpai
>>152803252
This. There's no clear consensus on what OST is better.
I've probably spoken to dozens of people on this and the answers are all over the place
>I created an autism shitstorm just by using the word "canon."
Sometimes I forget people still care about useless bullshit like that.
>>152802126
Just completed 3&Kas all characters, I've completed all the classics now I'm craving for some more. I found Super Tails and Super/Hyper Knuckles are fun as fuck to play and not having them canon kills me inside.
>>152803334
In my experience, I've seen more people prefer that than the US. Also, the JAP songs seem to get more hits on Youtube and such.
>>152803124
>>152803540
>>152803637
delet this
>>152802457
why is nicole naked...
>>152803851
why is Sonic naked
>>152802126
Sonic Adventure.
The last thing I need to do is fight Gamma's final boss.
>>152803963
Why is Eggman naked
>>152801684
Eggy has the best fashion sense.
Animatin'Fucking hell Unreal's a bitch.
>>152802457
Sonic's face kills me in this, and it's the last time nearly the post world is brought up.
The comic is better for it, but I miss the old characters made good by Ian.
>>152803963
Sonic isn't naked, don't you see the shoes and gloves?
>>152804079
The Pre-world rather.
I'm tired man.
>>152804071
I want an Egg Jacket so much.
>>152804079
Keep on going, anon. I'm interested to see how you continue to progress.
How would Sonic react to someone being faster than him?
>>152804251
>Egg jacket
I'd buy that shit in a heartbeat
>>152804525
Probably go full shounen protagonist mode and train his ass off to beat him
>>152804901
Can we get a training montage?
>>152804251
>>152804623
>>152805218
Cute! Thanks ya!
>>152804525
Pretty much how he reacts to jet in the riders series
>>152804623
I'd love to have an Egg Army uniform
>>152804350
I got a blog that was supposed to motivate me into doing shit but I got a job and at a friends house so it 's harder to spend as much time on things.
I'll try though anon.
>>152805170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rRVQ6g5KjA
I imagine this was blasting out of his ipod
>>152805218
>>152805475
>>152805683
Good job, man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdzuR4Iunuw
>>152805284
What a sexy rat
>>152805683
Jesus christ how many katella fags are there
was this a reference to Sonic Advance 3?
>>152806106
Go read the previous threads.
>>152806106
Yes, we've been over this
>>152806106
Yes. It's been said a dozen times yes. It said so in the fucking editorial.
>>152806106
Yup. In the new continuity, the first use of the Genesis Wave didn't make Genesis happen, it was the events of Sonic Advance 3.
>>152805901
>>152805218
The shark holds hands with its prey
>>152805284
Its funny because jet is the only rival to make sonic legitimately angry
>>152806216
The pose being a reference to SAdv3 doesn't mean it was SAdv3.
>>152806617
Ian said it was on Twitter.
xth for best echidna cutie
>>152806498
Don't mess with sonic and going fast
>>152807305
Is tikal considered blonde?
>>152807082
I would so tenderly.
>>152808492
Whoops, meant for >>152807497
>>152802126
S3&K!
Babby Clove is crying.
This is your fault.
>>152808630
Good.
>>152802126
Uhh..
Sonic 1 I guess. There's no saving so I have to play it over and over until I win and I have no clue how to beat Special Stage or what to do in it.
How would you fix your least favorite Sonic character? You can't kill them and you have to keep at least part of their original character intact
>>152808492
>>152808821
What the fuck anon
>>152809390
>Charmy
Make him annoy the other characters more than he does the audience. That simple.
>>152807497
I've always thought of her hair colour as strawberry blonde
>>152809464
>>152808630
But the baby is Cassia and she isn't crying you stupid fuck.
>>152809464
>>152809464
It's Tikal's color.
>>152811727
She is so cute
>>152806498
I dunno man. Sonic seemed pretty ticked when shadow told him he wasn't good enough to be his fake. He made him eat those words.
>>152807497
>>152809962
Going with the whole, Echidnas have dreadlocks i always saw Tikal as kind of like how red headed black people/mixed people look.
>>152806401
Would a shark eat whatever species of fish Coral is?
>>152809375
Is this from generations or is this just a really good SFM. because if it's the latter I need to suck that person's dick.
>>152812263
But they're quills, not hair.
>>152810623
>>152810817
>>152811047
WHO THE HELL MADE THIS
AND FOR WHAT PURPOSE
>>152812452
It was a contest as part of the pokecapn Sonic 06 LP. One of the crew asked what color Tikal was so they asked the fans to describe it.
>>152812452
>Still working on confirming a couple of things for the food contest, but the Tikal results are in!
>First, I'd like to give a big thanks to ObscureReference for being my guinea pig. I gave him each of the 9 entries, and he gave me a color in return. I then compared this color to Tikal's and based my conclusions off of that. Trying to use the polygonal model as a color basis didn't work out due to lighting, etc. making it impossible to find a good color. However, there are actually only two pieces of official 2-D Tikal art. Averaging the two prominent colors gave me The Tikal Color. From there, I treated the RGB values of that color and the RGB values of the colors each essay provided as points in a 3D coordinate system, and computed the distance between the two points. The colors with the shortest distances are then arguably the most Tikal-like and are the winners of the challenge.
>But it wouldn't be any fun if you didn't get to see all the colors, right? So here we go. Yeah yeah, I know all about why I shouldn't use a JPEG for text on colors, but the filesize savings were worth the sacrifice.
>>152812421
Quills are just follicles of hair that have been hardened with massive amounts of keratin.
>>152812669
...who won?
>>152812721
Don't tell me it was THIS one.
>>152812898
The first one posted was the winner.
>>152802126
I've never played a sonic game, or read a sonic comic.
I don't know where to start.
And I'm conflicted. I thought Sonic was for autists?
>>152802126
None.
I'm only here for the waifus.
>>152813208
What are you doing here then?
>>152813248
Why wouldn't you?
>>152813248
How can you HATE something this cute?
>>152813305
>>152813248
That means you have perfectly acceptable tastes.
>>152813208
For games, start with 1, 2, 3&K, and CD. Then move onto SA1 and SA2. All of these games are available on Steam for pretty cheap
The comics are something I wouldn't recommend touching until you've played at least some of the games
In Sonic CD do you need to get all the Time Stones to get a good ending, or will destroying all the robot generators be enough? And is there a time limit like the other classic games?
>>152813448
And this concludes our delightful adventure in answering the question "Just what color is Tikal?" Thank you for your time and your patience.
>>152813619
I could be wrong but I think getting all the time stones is like an auto good ending or something?
>>152813619
Getting the Time Stones is enough, but destroying all the robot generators and hologram projectors before can get you an achievement.
>>152813861
Ok and what about the time limit?
>>152813861
>>152814430
So would it be easier to just get all the time stones rather than searching for all the generators? And is there a guide anywhere that will show where the generators are?
>>152813619
You can do either to get the good ending.
>>152815029
>So would it be easier to just get all the time stones rather than searching for all the generators?
As long as you can navigate the special stages good enough, sure. Remember, there's a blue UFO that appears when you are running out of time and if you hit it, you get extra time.
And is there a guide anywhere that will show where the generators are?
http://www.soniczone0.com/games/soniccd/stagesandstory/
>>152815410
>Sonic 2 sprite is best sprite
>>152815535
Thank you anon I love you lots
>>152815535
IIRC in the PC version you can simply pause and restart the special stage if you know you're not gonna make it.
>>152808492
>>152808821
>>152810623
>>152810817
>>152811047
>>152812721
>>152813305
>>152813448
>>152813793
ones for other characters when
>>152815794
No problem.
>>152815816
I didn't know that. Honestly, I spent my time perfecting special stage routes through the time trial mode.
>>152815928
When the Posse LPs another Sonic gamei.e. never
>>152816078
I'm surprised they haven't done Lost World, yet. They've done all the main games since '06, so far, plus Black Knight.
>>152815816
Oh shit, this will make things so much easier.
Thanks a bunch anon!
>>152816158
It's better that they didn't. They ended on a high-ish note with Generations.
>>152816278
But they haven't done anything since Lightning Returns, and that was a travesty.
>>152816571
Sonic-wise, I meant. I kind of ignored what came after Four Swords or Return to Dreamland or whatever.
>That little "Yes!" when you get an extra life in CD
Sonic a cute
>>152816773
They didn't even bother finishing LR. They didn't like it that much.
>tfw want to draw Clove
>No idea what to have her doingor wearing
Any suggestions? I just want to doodle some shit to get motivated.
>>152816898
Damn. That sucks. Well, they've got a good backlog, so it's not like they're dead or anything.
>>152816948
Draw her having a secret meeting with the FF to see if they know a way to free Cassia from being forced to work for Eggman.
>>152816948
How about some formal wear? Maybe a nice dress or suit
So you guys do know about the lawsuit now right?
>>152816876
There is nothing cuter than CD Sonicexcept maybe Metal
>>152817661
It's literally in the OP.
>>152816948
Clove as Death looking like she hates her job
>>152817695
OVA!Metal is best Metal.
>>152817770
Look at this face. This is a face that says "you can try, you can do anything"
>>152806216
Not necessarily.
Ian still said Genesis is canon. SA3 could have easily taken place in a prior test of the SGW
>>152802457
I recently started reading the comics and is there really a point in bothering post universal reset? I found Scourge fun to read about, but if absolutely nothing is vital anymore, should I consider just skimming?
>>152818464
Nice name there, fag.
It'd probably be better to continue reading since there are a lot of great stories before the reboot.
>>152818464
If you mean "is there any point to reading PRE universe reset", then sure, the stories are good after 160 even if they don't really carry over past 252.
I mean what happened to Sonic is really no different to what happens in 95% of other comic franchises when they just never reference anything that happened more than 5 issues ago. It's just that in Sonic's case they actually have a reason not to, rather than the traditional "We think our readers are stupid and have a goldfish bowl memory".
>>152818464
Just read everything.
>>152818464
>Power Ring Cereal.
I bet it tastes like cheerios
>>152817770
But what about Metal Sonic wearing a bowtie?
>>152818464
There's a lot to enjoy pre-reboot. It'd be a shame to just skim it.
>>152805475
I was the Olympic Rouge requester, thank's a bunch! That's fantastic!
>>152818464
Enjoy the ride and then join the 'Waiting for LHT" club.
But seriously, a lot of the pre reboot stuff is still worth reading.
>>152818464
It's about the journey, not the destination. Even if it's non canon and doesn't matter anymore, it's still worth reading
>>152805475
After all this time Rouge stole the gold.
>>152818464
You should never read to focus on what it is and isn't cannon you should read for enjoyment.
My favorite SW comics aren't "canon" but I still get more out of them than any of the new shitty ones and most of the movies. The stories don't vanish, it's all fiction at the end of the day anyways so worrying about what pretend thing didn't pretend happen is silly. Stories exist in their own world and nothing can change that.
>>152816948
Disco Afro and bell bottoms.
>>152816948
Nazi uniform
>>152818882
>PRE universe rese
Sorry, I used the wrong wording. I started at 145 and hit 200. I do like the quality improvement. Just didn't want to invest too much into something that wouldn't matter later on.
>>152819047
>>152819129
>>152819134
>>152819506
I see. Guess I'll keep going. I'm honestly not used to comics at all and went in with a manga mentality.Sonic is actually the first western comic series I ever actually read.
>>152819006
Are Amy and Metal going out on a date?
>>152819006
That Amy is the cutest thing ever oh my god. Does anyone have that picture of her with all the alternate hairstyles?
>>152820178
>>152819006
That's adorable
>>152820031
She'd definitely be able to get in Twinkle Park for free with Metal.
>>152819934
Enjoyment matters for it's own sake.
Just read what you like until you stop liking it.
>>152820324
muh heart
Alright /sthg/, who's your favorite badnik?
>>152820742
Motobug
>>152820483
>until you stop liking it.
This is actually how I felt starting out. The art and pacing was so all over the place. Scourge solidified it for me. I love corruption and evil doubles. Super surprised at all the shipping material. I mean, I thought it was just autistic kids when the comic is actually chock full of someone wanting the D.
>>152819934
Please take off the name. Nothing against you personally, it's just thread courtesy
>>152820807
Omega.
>>152820962
Omega is above being a simple badnick
>>152819934
>Starting at 145
What a random place to start
>>152820742
You are, anon.
>>152820742
The last one that gets smashed by me.
>>152820947
Sorry to trigger you. There is a way to make it easier on you though.
>>152821163
I was recommended 150 and (mostly) 160, and figured I'd at least get some information on what happened beforehand, so I chose 145.
What was up with the flux of art style? Things went from deviantart to alright at random. Eggman would look super creepy and over detailed sometimes, and all the other Mobian's eyes would be freakish giant blobs.
>>152821169
>>152821629
>>152820742
Bicycle pump
>>152820742
Has there ever been a skeleton enemy in a Sonic game?
>>152821548
Combination of artists with widely different styles (compare the excessively cartoonish Jon Grey with the furfag fap material of Steve Butler) as well as a lack of decent editorial standards. Pellerito himself wasn't to blame for the latter, he was mostly working with what he inherited from Gabrie.
One more stupid question about CD and then I swear I'll shut up. How do I unlock Tails?
>>152821938
Rush 2
https://twitter.com/IanFlynnBKC
Ian has a patreon? I thought that since he writes comics he wouldn't need to e-beg. Is he doing alright financially?
>>152821548
Or you could stop being an attention whore and take off the name. You're not special
>>152821938
Secret Rings
>>152816948Naked apron
>>152817761
Literally my first time drawing Clove
>>152822124
Beat the game once.
>>152821992
I see. I'm not familiar at all with who did what, aside from those cute credits at the start of each Boom issue, so sorry if I'm extremely out of the loop. My favorite art style is the Advance/Adventure 2D art and the issues that emulate it.
>>152822205
If Sonic ran for president what would his campaign slogan be?
>yfw we get Metal Big as an unlockable character in Mania
>>152822382
That last name should be easy enough to kill.
>>152822574
>not wanting the entire chaotix &MIGHTY
>not wanting pic fucking related
>>152822767
>That art contest where Penders got BTFO
That was great
>>152816948
Sally's little black dress.
>>152822561
Make America fast again
>>152822907
>>152822935
Put it on a hat
>>152822205
He mentioned he was pinching pennies when I asked if he bought the Archie Sonic Humble Bundle.
>>152822772
One can only hope for DLC.
>>152823315
>hope for DLC
I hate that this is a way of thinking now.
>>152822772
The problem is that Heavy and Bomb were put in Chaotix as joke characters that the game tricks you with when you try to select someone through the Combi Catcher. Since Mania will presumably have free character selection, there's no point to them being there.
>>152822863
I think it's interesting how thick and dark the artists' traces were, while his is barely visible.
>>152822382
I can't see death as anything but Grim from Billy and Mandy.
>>152823051
Yeah, about that...
>>152823374
>Whoop whoop whoop
I can always appreciate a good curly shuffle
>>152822863
>>152823374
Any place I can read up on this Penders guy? I want to know the extent of his failures.
>>152823364
For the last time, please take off the name. It's common courtesy, you're not special. If you're gonna post in the thread at least try to not be a needless attentionwhore
>>152823367
>there's no point to them being there.
hard mode
>>152823662
Don't bother. If he was reasonable he wouldn't have it on in the first place.
>>152823662
pick your battles, anon.
>>152820742
Egg pawns. They have so much character. They're the waddle Dee/ Koopa Troopa of the Eggman empire.
>>152822382
Pretty good for a first time drawing her.
You know what I want to see in 2017?
Past versions of the other characters. They may not have been in the early games but logic would say that they did have to grow up to be as they are now.
Plus it would be pretty hilarious if past Rouge was some gawky awkward glasses wearing teenager before she got hit with the puberty stick and contact lenses
>>152824814
I'd rather get what Generations fucked up on
>no classic Knuckles, Amy, or Chaotix
>>152824892
well that too. but I think there's some fun to poke at everyone
>>152824814
They could make so much interesting shit.
pls no disappoint
Honestly, I'm surprised at how much of a secret they're keeping this compared to Generations, where all the levels, characters, bosses, and items were revealed in the demo; or Lost World where they already teased the Lost Hex and announced the name and plot shortly afterwards.
>>152825497
well when you got this and Mania coming out you don't want one to overshadow the other and mania is no doubt easier to get out first
>>152824814
Rouge reminds me a lot of Bayonetta (though I guess it should be the other way around). Wouldn't be surprised if she was the wild card out cast or a sweet young girl. Personality types like hers usually stem from being shunned or shamed after all.
>>152817592
>>152822907
Nice black dress it is, I think it looks a little less formal than I hoped but I think it suits her a bit.
>>152822205
Mr Kinley the Hedgehog
>>152825747
Pretty sure I saw you on a tales of berseria thread
>>152822205
He's freelance, so he can always use more money. Doesn't help that he went from 4 comics to only 2. He set that up a long time ago so he might be better though.
>>152825198
I was surprised at how pissed off sonic looked in the 2017 trailer, eggman must have done something that was pretty serious
>>152823654
http://theamazingsallyhogan.tumblr.com/post/68112487973/sonic-the-hedgehog-ken-penders-bioware
>>152825497
I'm surprised that they are able to keep it a secret, but not so much that they're actually trying to do it. Under the normal release schedule, we wouldn't even get any news until about March next year, so it's still possible they'll do that then.
Also, they seem to be shifting PR attention to one franchise at a time. First it was all Boom, now it's all Classic. Hopefully Modern will get his time to shine as well.
>>152827363
wtf is this and why am I laughing so hard?
>>152827130
I agree, it looked kinda off to be honest. The trailer looked a bit off altogether to be honest, it had some really awesome things, but some other things looked really rushed.
>>152827363
Man Im glad those assholes are gone forever.
>>152826886
Yes, I do love Tales.
>>152827328
Thank you.
>>152828006
You're gonna be sued by Penders
>>152827548
I gotta say though that trailer left us with more questions than answers.
>Why is sonic so angry?
>Did eggman win?
>Is there a new villian
>Why is classic sonic here?
>Is this going to be boost to win again?
>What happened to sonic friends?
>What does join the resistance mean?
>Will the freedom fighters make an apperance?
>>152828191
Yea we were talking about how tales of zestiria is parallel to sonic 06
>>152824814
What do you think the Chaotix's past is like?
[Knuckle's Chaotix is not canon]
>>152828537
Espio no doubt trained in earnest in some ninja village
Vector was a young inner city kid with dreams of following in the food steps of his cop father who was gunned down in the line of duty
Charmie....Charmie was just never the same after the war.
>>152828537
Vector grew up on South Island and was briefly in a band with Sonic before they went separate ways.
>>152827130
the robots just destroyed Sonic's favorite chilli dog stand
>>152828320
I think that while the trailer could have given rise to a few questions, it didn't give us enough meat to keep going until the next bit of information is revealed. It's true though that it's still early given how long it's gonna be until it releases, but still, I wan't a bit more.
>>152822341
This is my last one, I'm off to bed. Goodnight guys.
>>152820742
E-Series > Badnik trashe
I've had it youDouble Niggers
>>152828825
I want sonic's shitty friends to come back for 2017. Despite what some anons were saying a few threads back they help make things less boring in sonic games and its fun to see them interact with other characters. I couldn't stand lost world because of the lack of characters.
>>152829552
Rude
>>152829552
>>152829624
They probably will since this is an anniversary game. Whether or not they're playable......
>>152827363
>I'll be safe with Ash
>That same issue an attempt is made on her life
>>152808846
Navigate through the spinny-dream land of acid breaking through little diamonds that change colours when you touch them. There's a chaos emerald in there somewhere, find that.
>>152829624
Im not gonna pretend that sega hasn't been using them properly but if the choice is between that and HEY REMEMBER THE MEGA DRIVE ERA!? Id rather they keep trying to figure out how to use them.
It wouldn't be hard to find plot reasons for most of them or even gameplay functions
>>152829624
What I really would like to see again are Chao Gardens. Maybe bring in another type of Chao.
I only want Silver to come back if he's a joke like Shadow was in Boom TV. Despite all that edge no one was really taking him seriously.
>>152830303
I love Metal so much.
>>152829624
They'll be in 2017, just not playable. Basically it'll be like Generations in that they're there to say 1 or 2 lines and be Sonic's cheerleaders
Have we considered the collect a thon approach?
Let's say each level has gemstones and you can in turn trade them to Rouge for hints or useful items.
just spit balling.
>>152829624
That could be a recipe for disaster or it could make the game better. Probabilites aren't good though, unfortunately.
>>152823398
>Grim from Billy and Mandy.
that was a good show
shame CN had to cancel it after the Underfist oneoff.
>>152827592
Even though I didn't care for anything involving the Mina/Ash/Sonic love triangle or the characters in general I did like Mina's crazy gloves
>>152830679
>Mina/Ash/Sonic love triangle
So is there a single female Sonic hasn't tried to flirt or make out with? Aside from Amy.
>>152830830
Dulce?
>>152830642
Honestly I think it'd be best to have the main games just have Sonic/Tails/Eggman/Orbot/Cubot/Random one off character and relegate the rest to spin offs like Olympics just to be on the safe side
>>152822772
better yet
just do Chaotix Frenzy
>>152829624
People bring up the argument of how because they should just focus on getting Sonic right, I can understand focusing on the main gameplay style is important but personaly I think they could reuse some older styles and touch them up a bit:
Tails: Plays like Sonic in the Adventure era with a better camera.
Knuckles: I feel his treasure hunting stages from SA2 were fine, just the levels could be awkward. Either that or something that involves taking down enemies as you speed through.
Amy: A better and faster version of Lost World, a focus on platforming using acrobatics and smashing through enemies.
To name a few.
>>152830417
But the thing is that they should try to find a way to make the characters have a role in the story it isn't that hard to do
>>152831030
eh that feels cheap.
>>152831123
>Knuckles: I feel his treasure hunting stages from SA2 were fine, just the levels could be awkward
you either need to make the stages smaller or the time limit more forgiven. That one Rouge stage was brutal
>>152829624
Why not just make them be like how they were in Colors DS?
So, if the 2017 game is actually a more serious story, do we get more Crush40 that way?
>>152831030
Alright then Pontaff
>>152831123
Honestly putting those all ( or even just 2) into one game sounds like a mess. I'd rather have one playstyle with a lot of care and time put into it (Sonic) than a million with little focus or care. I think Sonic should be the only playable character until consistency is obtained. Remember, cramming a million playable friends almost killed this franchise before
>>152831246
Cheap but safe. The more characters you incorporate the more cramped things get and it's better to play it safe for now
>>152831243
It's harder than it seems and giving someone like Amy an active role is probably more trouble than it's worth
>>152831285
Never played that game how were they?
>>152831371
I don't like their writing much but trimming down the cast to the bare essentials was a really smart move
>>152830830
Thunderbolt :^)
>>152828738
>Seperate Ways.
In Sonic's universe, he actually wrote that song after parting with Vector and the band.It flopped about as hard as Art Garfunkel's solo career.
>>152830921
Good point. Guess she's a bit too off species for him. Maybe.
>>152829212
>>152829349
>Super Saiyajin Rose
DUDE
>>152831561
Not that far in yet.
Instead of playable why not make them assists in gameplay?
>>152831030
[spoilers]Makes me think of how Miyamoto did with the Mario characters. Where spin-off characters like Waluigi, Daisy, Toadette, etc will never get to be in the main games ever again. This saddens me.[spoilers]
>>152831659
>>152831835
Nah, that'd complicate things
>>152828320
>>Will the freedom fighters make an apperance?
Hahahahaha, fucking no. SEGA only use their characters.
>>152831974
How so?
>>152831948To spoiler just highlight a phrase and press shift+s
>>152831948
Sasuga anon. But I agree to an extent. I'm not that big on Mario, but I do wonder why the others seemingly get ignored and SMRPG seems to be a forgotten relic.
>>152832060
They might be on mobile or their browser goes to Save Page.
>>152831975
>>152828320
>Will the freedom fighters make an apperance?
Well, I think familiar faces will work best. My first exposure to Sonic was Underground, so when I played the games, it's what I expected. The majority of buyers may expect the main game cast, and to toss in Sally and the others will be incredibly confusing unless they had a steady intro and datalog files.
>>152830830
Tails
>>152832115
>SMRPG seems to be a forgotten relic.
Square, now Square Enix, had a hand in developing the game, so the original characters in the game are kinda in limbo.And then Paper Mario came out as a spiritual successor, and OH NO LOOK AT WHERE THAT'S GONE.
>>152832040
You'd have to figure out how to make the assists mesh with the gameplay and not make things too easy and that's time that could be spent on polishing the core gameplay. Besides, who really wants assists?
>people still replying to the namefag
Just stop giving it attention and it'll fuck off eventually.
>>152829363
OR here, super cute~
>>152831493
Can't remember much, but I guess they were all like those human NPCs, asking you to do some optional quest for them. Overall, they all had reasons to come to Eggman's amusement park (Chaotix investigating, Rouge tricks Knuckles into coming over, Amy wants to go on a ride).
I just thought I find it amusing to see Sonic and Tails interacting with others and thought their reasons for being there is better than them being Sonic's cheerleaders.
>>152832663
>Don't give him attention
Oh no
>>152832607
Sonic Advanced 3 did it good.
>>152832467
&Knuckles
>>152832467
>Tails
>female
anon we've been through this so many times you should remember it by now
>>152831975
Things can always change.
>>152833131
>those lips
jesus christ
>>152832467
>didn't even change the dialogue
Come on Tailsfag
I had a strange dream about project sonic 2017 it was very descriptive of the plot.
>>152833131
>>152833360
someone give him Mighty Lips
>>152832783
>better than them being Sonic's cheerleaders.
>be Ultimate Lifeform
>You've got this Sanic!
Poor Shadow never gets to be the hero. I find Ow the Edge to be to Shadow as Advent Children and KH is to Cloud Strife. True, a lot of people ignore the comics, but he's so much more fleshed out and does a bit more than angst and shoot people.
>>152833360
Who putArakiin charge of art direction?
>inb4JoJo shit is ruining everything
>>152832060Thanks, anon.
>>152833498
Do tell anon
cute bat
>>152833568
>Sonic's speed is a form of hamon
>Chaos Control works like a stand
>everyone wearing Dior and other haute couture gear
Just one chapter. Araki please. Though knowing the series, I'm positive those are things somewhere at some point.
>>152833693
I love Rouge so muchand not in a furry way actually. Can't wait to get to an issue centered on her being awesome.
>attention whore namefag is a jojofag too
TheHorrorNeverEnds.jpeg
>>152833978
>Can't wait to get to an issue centered on her being awesome.
she's generally pretty good in TD stories but a nice solo adventure would be nice.
Some infiltration job where Shadow might be too emotionally compromised to go on and Omega lacks the ....let's say finesse
>>152834123
Okay bud
>>152832663
Thid
>>152832516At least the M&L doing good
>>152827130
Sonic tends to always look super pissed in the intro cutscenes and opening scenes.
At the intro to colors he looked super mad at eggman and the opening scene to Lost World was pretty intense too.
>>152832115
Like >>152832516 said, and probably the same case for other characters from Kart/Parties.
>>152833660
Well my dream was sonic and silver going up a mountain to fight eggmans robots and jet the hawk appearing at the mountain. Amy hugs jet thinking that hes sonic (wtf) and he develops a weird crush on her.
>>152834491
This is why I'm expecting a Generations/Colors plot from 2017. Because outside of a generic burned city that could very well be a dream sequence it gives off those vibes
>>152834172
>where Shadow might be too emotionally compromised to go on
Is he having another Maria flashback again?
>>152831409
>Remember, cramming a million playable friends almost killed this franchise before
I dunno man, I think heroes was fine. And that game had the MOST multiple characters.
Not to mention how many people love Adventure 1 and 2 despite their flaws and each of those games have a minimum of 6 playable characters.
>>152834172
That page was perfect.
>>152834491
>intense
Has there been any- how should I put this, creator feedback on the level of maturity of the series? I mean, Classic was all cute and environmentalist, but I think it was around Adventure 2 when things took more of a turn for dark.
Having such a generational gap seems like such a precarious thing to try and balance.
>>152834797
It can be related to Gerald and Maria's work
>>152834646
That's really fucking weird but interesting at the same time
>>152829624
While I do love Sonic's friends and wouldn't mind them being playable, I can't really think of a reason to have them be in the main game unless they just play like slightly different clones of sonic. If anything I think they'd work better having their own mini games, seperate quests, and being playable in multiplayer than actually being part of the main game. I say that because, if you don't like one of them or you hate a certain play style, it'd suck for you to have to play as one of them for like...1/4th of the game.
>>152834646
Amy hugs jet thinking that hes sonic (wtf) and he develops a weird crush on her.
I feel if it were Jet after Amy it'd be like a role reversal. As in Amy would be the one desperately trying to escape his advances
>>152831948
Waluigi was never in a main series game I don't think. That dude's only been in sports based spinoffs.
>>152834919
Heroes was also the start of everyone not shitting the fuck up during gameplay making it annoying and SA1 had a million alternate playstyles. Honestly I don't think you'd really gain much from having anyone besides Sonic playable nowadays
>>152835241
Nobody likes waluigi
>>152835319
False. Everyone likes Waluigi.
>>152835210
Amy needs to give more hugs. She's the only one who can and it will always be adorable. Literally everyone could use one.
>>152835139
>it'd suck for you to have to play as one of them for like...1/4th of the game.
I like the minigame idea. I'll never touch 06 but just looking at Silver's gameplay seems incredibly painful.
>>152833978
>Sonic's speed is a form of hamon
>Not Sonic's speed is the work of his stand "Speed Demon"
>>152835210
that probably would be the case lol
>>152835507
Stop replying to it.
>>152835267
>shitting the fuck up
I'd certainly hope not!My head's spinning.
I understand people wanting to play as say, Tails or Knuckles because they play great in the 2d games. I don't get people who wanna play as random fuckers like Silver and Vector or even have them be plot relevant. Like who actually cares about Vector? Does he even have a character outside of being a greedy bastard?
>>152835579
Are jokes not allowed anymore?
>>152835910
Encouraging attention whores has always been looked down on.
>>152835831
Now...I haven't played Knuckle's Chaotix but does Vector play really bad in it or something? I ask because of all the characters who WEREN'T in the classic games you seemed to focus on him, who WAS in a classic 2D game.
>>152835478
>Amy the only one who can give hugs
Sadly no.
>>152836047
He was just the first one to come to mind. I didn't play Chaotix so I have no idea how he plays but my point still stands. Who wants to play as a randy like Vector? Does anyone even like him?
I don't think he's a bad character, and I enjoyed the Power type playstyle from Heroes. I think an expansion of that could work great form him and other characters like Knuckles or Omega.
How would you feel if they attempted at the heroes formula again?
>>152836342
I would actually like to see them get it right
>>152836310
Meant for >>152836148
>>152836342
Please no
>>152836069
So, I feel like the only one who thinks Elise is blown out of proportion. She's nowhere as bad as Chris and she's rather easy to ignore. The kiss isn't much different from The Princess and the Frog type situation and she's not after human/hedgehog hybrid babies.
Still wondering why Amy did absolutely nothing though.
>>152836342
I don't really feel that formula was good.
>>152836342
Heroes hasn't even been re-released yet. I just want them to get THAT right first.
>>152836575
God damn. Can you fuck off already?
>>152836607
The PS2 version was rereleased on PlayStation for PAL/JP regions.
>>152836342
I'd love it, honestly. It was probably the only sonic game to make combat feel good. Not to mention the different forms gave you different methods of mobility. I'd love for them to expand on that. Maybe have less sections where you HAVE to be a certain forms and have it be more about finding different methods to get through the level.I should say though, Sonic Heroes is probably one of my first 3D sonic games so I'm a bit biased.
>>152836575
>>152836617
Do not respond to the massive name faggot
>>152836575
Eh, it wouldn't have been as bad if the humans weren't modelled so "realistically" . That way they wouldnt look so jarring next to Sonuc and co. Depends on a stylistic approach.
>>152836342
I hate Heroes for fairly obvious reasons but I would be interested in another that actually gave the team mechanic depth rather than just being a gimmick to progress through small parts of a linear level.
>>152836745
Thats the most fucked up version. Was it fixed up at all?
>>152836025
I didn't even notice the name. Doesn't really trigger my autism though.
I'm really liking this whole All MighTails thing.
>>152836937
I feel like Unleashed had it closest by making the humans look like caricatures themselves. I feel like eggman should be the standard for how humans in sonic look. Simple yet exaggerated.
>>152837069
Even if it doesn't it's better for the general in the long run to keep the place anonymous.
>>152835507
>It'sthe one rabbit thing from the opening sequence of Moonwalker.
>>152836937
Christ that art. Though I agree. Also, super hated the god awful Japanese mocap too, it didn't improve anything and in fact made everything worse.
>>152836970
Booms old designs and mechanics were something like that but more coop focused.
It mainly involved things like you using the enerbeam to lower a character into secret areas or sending characters down different paths
>>152836148
Vector was the most fun character to play as in the classic games
source: romhacks
>>152836342
That's the only way they could pull off having multiple characters at this point. Maybe one day.
On the topic of Vector and the Chaotix as a whole, why is Espio even friends with Vector? They're polar opposites. How would they even get along? Hell, why would Espio ever work for Vector? Why doesn't Vector just sell Charmy or some shit to make ends meet. Not like Charmy is that useful to them anyways
>>152837840
They use Charmy as a tax write off
>>152837840
>Why doesn't Vector just sell Charmy or some shit to make ends meet?
Because it's a kids game.
>>152837940
Fair enough. Though I still wonder why Espio sticks around.
That's enough CD for today. I got stuck on Special Stage 6 and was quickly reminded how impossibly difficult the later Special Stages could get in the classic games. Other than that I'm having a lot of fun with CD and if Taxman is responsible for this I can only imagine how great Mania is gonna be.
>>152838004
I'm sure it is something to do with honor
Lately I've been thinking about what makes Eggman so enjoyable. And I feel like I love the showmanship of him. He doesn't want to just take over the world. he wants to make a big event of it. Make a video message, Make a n amusement park, Make an eggmanland. He's a showman first and foremost. Whenever I picture Eggman I picture the little Bow he does in Sonic Colors before breaking out into a fit of laughter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6NfCfof6Lo
>>152836815
>I should say though, Sonic Heroes is probably one of my first 3D sonic games so I'm a bit biased.
same here man. Everyone shits on it but I still have fond memories of playing it when I was younger
Post >yfwFreedom Fighters aren't in Project Sonic 2017.
>>152838196
What kind of honor code makes you work for greedy assholes with no honor like Vector
>>152838046
>mfw listening to US OST music right now
Mania's soundtrack is gonna be GOAT.
>>152838004
>>152838368
Gotta stick Mr. Srs somewhere. And Shadow is too busy off camera angsting to fill the role.
>>152837840
>Why is Espio friends with Vector?
Because the gag is that Espio is super serious and intense about trivial things. Vector's the straight man to Charmy's childish sillyness and Espio's intense focus. Vector's the realist between being paid in bubble gum and committing Seppuku for a failed mission.
>>152838238
Eggman is a pretty cool dude. Probably one of my favorite vidya villians
>>152838465
I get it from a meta sense, but it doesn't make sense from a character perspective
Does anyone have a screencap of that story an anon wrote where sonic fucks amy so fast that he turns invisible?
>>152838361
We all know they won't be.
>>152838361
>>152838543
They're cartoon characters for fuck sake.
>>152838669
So that means I can't ask questions about their characters?
>>152838361
why would they be? Really, anon you're just being a dick at this point.
>>152838731
It's a dumb question. In real life you'll often find yourself making friends with people who are very different than you.
>>152838361
>implying there was ever a chance.
>>152838238
I like him as being Sonic's Joker in a sense that he wants to antagonize Sonic and doesn't actually want to kill him. Sure, he'll make threats, but still did all that planning and building just to create an obstacle course that only Sonic would be able to get through.
I didn't think much of him in 2D, but I really do enjoy their banter in modern.
>>152838731
It's not that, it's just that it's for kids. Their rules don't follow the same track as realism and human logic all the time. Also especially >>152838905
>>152838543
Because being a detective and solving whatever request they're given is a perfect reason for him to expand his ninja training. And maybe he just genuinely likes him., Just because he's more serious than Vector doesn't mean they don't get along.
>>152839219
Fair enough, though I don't see how anyone could like Vector. He's a fine character, just kind of a money obsessed idiot. He's the Mr Krabs of Sonic
>>152839048
I can't help but imagine Eggman knows exactly what he's doing when he puts spinners over a large gap that sonic couldn't possibly jump.
"Well it wouldn't be any fun if he didn't make it TO the giant robot I'm going to destroy him with"
>>152839321
>Idiot
In what way. He's pretty smart. He was the only one who figured out that Eggman was pulling the strings in Sonic Heroes.Also Charmy and Espio ALSO like Money. Which is why they beat up Eggman at the end of Heroes when they find out there WON'T be any money.
>>152839321
Even Mr. Krabs has a wife and daughter.
name your
>favorite game in the series
>least favorite game in the series
>favorite character
>biggest fetish
>>152835831
A loud-mouthed, greedy, but good-hearted character and an expert on detective skills. I think Vector is the best Chaotix
>>152835831
Sonic Runners exist
>>152839697
3 &KNUCKLES
Sonic '06
Probably Gamma, Knuckles if we're only discussing the living, Metal Sonic if I have to acknowledge Knuckle's depiction in Boom and the more recent games.
>>152839697
>Sonic 3 & Knuckles
>Sonic 4
>Amy Rose
>Femdom.
>>152839697
>>favorite game in the series
Sonic Battle
>>least favorite game in the series
Sonic 2
>>favorite character
E-91 Kunoichi
>>biggest fetish
robutts
>>152840061
ed.
Sonic Runners Existed.
>>152840451
Either way, that game has to be one of the rare times since we had multiple characters with similar gameplay.
>>152839697
>sonic 06
>sonic 1
>vanilla
>motorboats
What song in the series gives you the most feels?
The special stage theme in Sonic 1 makes me feel so melancholy.
>>152841023
Sonic 3 ending credits.
>>152818330
God, shut the fuck up
>>152840716
Sonic 2
Sonic 3 and Knuckles differences weren't really as game changing as you think they where
Sonic Rivals
Sonic Rivals 2
>>152841023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh-f_o6t1VQ
When I found Sound Test I think I actually fell asleep to this song. Was my first Sanic so I'm incredibly biased and attached.
This particular piece of Kingdom Valley though always sets off something in my soul. It's gotta be the violins, because I fell in love and never came out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_5SMBiJAyA
>>152829624
Actually make them useful and they'll be the highlight of the game. Keep doing what you've been doing and it'll drive the game into the fucking ground.
Most of these characters really aren't necessary, and especially don't all need to be stuffed into one game.
Eggman works best when the focus is on HIM, not the forgettable villain of the week or Eggman's insufferably unfunny henchmen
Characters like Big the Cat, Cream, Vanilla, Chao, the racoon whose name escapes me, and the characters from Sonic Riders really have no purpose other than maybe a brief cameo
I'd rather see Metal Sonic, Shadow, Silver, Blaze, Knuckles and Rouge in less games so that we can appreciate them more. The games should be treated like the comics, we don't need to come back to the same extensive gang in every single game
>>152841023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55rtX4wCJPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRCS5DA6PVc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H8rvwN9NYo
the ending on these ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmaDfHU303E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjGG88PSlWo
fuck now I am just nostalgia tripping
>>152841615
>Silver, Blaze
>every single game
Blaze's last big role was Rush and all Silver had was IT'S NO USE
>>152841023
https://youtu.be/t_c2RLiCHSk
>>152841023
Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_c2RLiCHSk
Also like half way through this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzzsjIwg1rE
And this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-9FaXg5NOk
>>152841615
>The games should be treated like the comics, we don't need to come back to the same extensive gang in every single game
I'd honestly agree with this. By the end of Sonic 06 we'd seen Tails and Knuckles for five games in a row, and Shadow and Rouge had appeared in four. It's little wonder that the community by that point had begun to get a little tired of them.
If used well, I don't see any reason why the extended cast can't return as supporting characters at the very least, perhaps unlockable characters to play with later on in the game or even perhaps revive the Amigo system from Shadow and Sonic 06 (assuming it's done well). As happy as I was to see the extended cast back in Generations, I felt that they were only really there as fanservice, and they could've been used a lot better as a supporting cast in some degree. Hell, if Project 2017 is all about fighting back against Eggman, it'd make sense to have the cast returning to at least make supporting roles during cutscenes.
Sorry for being a shitter and not streaming yesterday, things came up.
Short notice, but I'm gonna try it in a few minutes and see how it works. cheezkurds on Twitch, if you're interested.
>>152841753
Why didn't the OVA get a full and proper OST? Would let the DVD sit on the Scene Select menu forever just for that chill music.
>>152842015
ok, looking good
>>152838361
Not expecting it.
>>152841615
Honestly, I don't think we really need to see anyone outside of Sonic/Tails/Eggman/Orbot/Cubot/Metal Sonic ( once in a while)/Amy/Knuckles (Kept in the background at best mind you) in the main games ever again. The other characters wore out their welcome a long time ago
>>152841615
Exactly which is why they need a comeback
>>152841839
>>152842015
>Namefaggotry
Stop
>>152842271
If anything it's a good reason as to why they should be relegated to spinoffs
>>152838731
You can, but a non-meta answer would require a story. Can't have that in Sonic.
>>152838361
Honestly.
Archie is so shit that I don't want them getting near Sega EVER.
What's the best Halloween-themed level in the series?
>>152842353
Archie should do what the games are doing and cut the cast down to the bare essentials. I mean, how many people are reading this comic for characters not named Sonic and Tails?
>>152842508
Who are you reading it for then? Why would you read a Sonic comic if not for Sonic?
>>152842243
Get out Pontaff
>>152842460
While Scourge is technically a Sonic, I suppose it's a yes and a no.
>>152842314
>Wanting to let people know who you are since you provide actual content for the thread.
>Namefaggotry
Look man, I get not wanting random people to have names on but this whole "Everyone must remain anonymous at all times" is just silly. It makes perfect sense why someone would want to do that in this context.
Goddamn if this ain't the smoothest shit I ever heard https://youtu.be/XHb6sza5mZs
>>152842591
Again, don't like their writing, but I don't see the problem with trimming the cast
>>152842668
All you have to do is post the image of the model and we can figure out who the person is. It's the same way we recognize someone like Yoto or any other drawfag: by their signature so to speak. Don't be a fucking attentionwhore. But at least ythey're actively contributing and have some sort of excuse as to why they'd have a name on unlike the other attentionwhore in this thread
>>152842668
not him
I'm fine with tripfagging when your identity is relevant to the topic at hand and shouldn't be impersonated
>>152842015
fine enough
>>152841839
unnecessary
You know raising a fuss about it is just giving the attention you don't want to give.
>>152842729
>mfw getting mother into Sonic music
It's a special kind of pride knowing she goes to work listening to Rouge's themes and occasionally Planet Wisp.
>>152842314
>>152842830
Yeah sorry, I'm not a fan of names either. Was just gonna use it for the one post but I accidentally put it on >>152841839 as well
>>152842774
>Don't be a fucking attentionwhore
How is constantly posting WIPs of your 3D model less attention-whorey than just "here's my name so you know who I am"I'm actually Yoto and while I don't namefag for my art I still think it's stupid to jump down someone's throat for doing it.
>>152842774
Trimming the cast is unnecessary. We're good with the number we have now and as we're seeing lately, people are growing really tired of Sonic only games and personally, I'm getting a bit fatigued of only having Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles as the only options we get for playable characters. If a game is going to have playable characters, I'd honestly prefer a rotating cast with sonic as the constant. However small the minority is, there are fans of these characters and the last thing we'd want is another Mighty/Ray situation where the only mention they get in 20 years is on a "Have you seen me?" poster.
>>152842353
>SEGA being better than Archie
Pre-boot; true, fuck just about everything from 51-159. Post-boot fixed many of these issues, and made the screwy game timeline a bit more comprehensible. Because rather than six or seven different writing teams having worked for the games, the post-boot comic has two or three. This works in the comics favour, as two or so people can keep track of each others' ideas
>>152843180
Yoto, have a cute.
>>152842460
I am.
Team Dark stories are great
>>152843547
Trimming it is unnecessary you're right, because they did it already. What we have in the games now is fine. I'd rather not add in 20 characters that maybe 3 people total like. If anything, I think the majority of people are ok with the small cast we have now, they're just not as vocal. Honestly I don't see the problem with just playing as Sonic either
Help me out here
>>152844121
That list is bullshit. The quality of a villain doesn't come down to what archetype they fit into, but rather their execution. According to this list, Eggman would be shit tier, and yet he's arguably the best villain in the franchise because he's generally executed well
>>152843826
I want to clarify (because I think there is a misunderstanding. By me mostly) that what I'm talking about is in the realm of 2 or 3 non-sonic characters tops. What I have in mind are 2D sonic games akin to S3&K/Advance1-2-3/and Rush. Those are games I'm absolutely on board for playing multiple characters with a rotating cast. If we're talking about 3D Adventure style, then that is something else.
Yes, the majority is fine with a smaller roster which is why I'm putting myself in the minority here. I'm just having trouble understanding why people who are so against any new character from adventure on simply don't want to see them ever again in any context? I don't think they take away from anything. Sonic will always be the hero. If it's about purpose, that is entirely up to what writers want to do with them.
>>152844334
They're against it because it's largely unecessaey and only complicates things. You can have the Adventure characters and beyond, just throw them into spinoffs or Generations style cameos and be done with it
>>152844302
Eggman has been portrayed all sorts of times and all kinds of ways
The list doesn't have room for comedy villains so what most people define as Eggman doesn't fit any of those
06 Eggman fits into shit tier because that summarizes everything he is in 06, whereas most of the other games you can say at least a bit more about him
>>152844302
>>152844121
Eggman would be Elder God tier, actually.
>>152844431
it wouldn't even be weird to just have them pop in for the story
>>152844490
Eggman did nothing wrong.
>>152843739
That most certainly is cute. I cannot deny.
>>152844507
Considering how convoluted and weird most of their back stories are it'd be contrived as hell at best. Nobody outside of like 5 people wants to see most of these characters
>>152844490
This.
"Gotta go fast" as a hero's motive is fine, but "MASTERPLAN" is better.
I am a legit scientist so I may be biased.
>>152844672
Would it be less convoluted to have these newer characters if the plot wasn't so deep? What would need to happen outside of nuking everyone but the main 4 to better terms? I'd think drip feeding them slowly and one at a time could probably help. They'd be out of the way most of the time but at least they'd be thrown a bone.
>>152844798
>>152844490
fair enough
>>152845005
No, then it'd just be pointless. Why have so many characters for a relatively simple plot? Honestly I don't think you could really do much at this point but either ignore their existence or put them in as brief background cameos at best
>>152845135
You being uncreative hardly makes it impossible and you don't speak for what the majority of what fans want
>>152845271
From what I gather both here and other places, most fans don't want a lot of characters. If anything, they want it to be even smaller
>>152845370
Maybe my memory's fuzzy, but I recall the opposite from both the general discussion in the threads, and in the big poll done recently.
>>152845539
Maybe here people want big epic stories and millions of characters but from what I see, most people, mainly casual fans, want the opposite. They want the good ol days of the Genesis and the characters they remember
>>152845135
I'm not talking about having them all show up at once in a single game. If there's gonna be the newer cast showing up I'm talking about 2 or 3 at a time and only when the plot is relevant. Spin-off games are a given and I hope Sega does more there.
At this point I'm willing to agree to disagree.
>>152845829
Honestly they should stick to spin offs. Have the characters people care about and want in the main games and everyone else in racing/Olympic spin offs. Everyone wins
>>152845749
But most relevant characters in the comics are from the Genesis days :^)
>>152845749
>most people, mainly casual fans, want the opposite. They want the good ol days of the Genesis and the characters they remember
Not him, not asking for big stories or a heroes-sized cast.
But Classic-era games had a lot of characters, and not even the pontaff-written games have been using most of them
>Knuckles
>Amy/Metal Sonic
>Chaotix/Mighty
>Sonic the Fighters cast
>Sonic R cast
>Tails Game Gear characters
in order of how many people give a shit about them.
>>152845979
I'd be fine there, though my idea of spin off is probably looser than yours. It's just after a decade of hearing nothing but Sonic's friends sucks when I really like some of these characters, I get annoyed. Especially when I know it's the majority and this sentiment has effected Sega's game decisions to the point I was very close to seeing some of my favorite characters wiped because of it.
>>152846096
But what you're forgetting is that most of those games only had a few of those characters each.
>Sonic 1
Sonic and Eggman
>Sonic 2
Sonic, tails and Eggman
>Sonic CD
Sonic, Amy, Metal Sonic, Eggman.
>Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Eggman.
And then all the other characters were in spin-offs like team chaotix and Sonic the Fighters, but those aren't really the game casuals look back on.
>>152838368
Vector's a guy who will chase a dollar through hell but he's kind, will work for free for good causes and will never knowingly take part in an evil act.
It's a somewhat honourable code, even if he'd think of money grabbing in the most dire of situations.
Also he's a smart crocodile, investigations are genuinely more his thing. Espio is the man on the ground, but Mr thinker is a 6 foot tall crocodile.
>>152844121
>>152845070
Nocturns need their own tier
>>152846458
Huh, boom amy got to keep her tan arms, but boom sonic didn't.
>>152848023
Girls aren't as hairy, anon
How much longer must we wait? When will the comic finally come out?
>>152842546
I read Sonic the Hedgehog for Sonic, I read Sonic Universe for the rest of the cast. The comics are the only place most of these characters get to live anymore and I'm happy to read their stories.
Has there been any story times for new comics that I've missed lately?
>>152848830
Nope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWewtofd-NQ
>>152849446
Motobug is most useless badnik.
Also it's a shame Eggman's more animal based robots don't make a return more often. Sonic 4 Episode 2 was nice for it though.
>>152802126
Lost WorldIt was a mistake
>>152802126
some assorted romhacks
Name 1 (one) character
>>152850681
That looks pretty good anon but the topology doesn't look game ready and will be a bit of a pain to unwrap and texture. Here's some things you could do to improve it:
>Remove the inner loop on the face where motobug's face will be
>Detach the body from the wheel and make them seperate objects
>Detach the antennae from the head and make them seperate objects
>Detach the sidebars that extend into the claws and make them seperate objects
>>152851039
Jackie Chan
>>152851039
Lumia Flowlight
>>152851162
>>152850681
forgot one:
>detach the exhaust pipe and make it a seperate object
>>152851162
>constructive criticism
How dare you.
But no serious, that's all good advice man. I need to practise a lot more so I don't mind it.
Why the antenna anyway? I'd have thought they'd have just stuck on the model cause it's not going to be doing much.
>>152850836
Lost World is fun! And cute!
>>152851783
No it's SHIT!
>>152851373
>why the antenna?
When modeling objects that are supposed to be lowpoly you want to avoid extrusions as it adds unnecessarily to the polycount. You might also want to be able rig the antenna without it deforming the body mesh (in case you think you'll want to later). Even if you don't rig them, you'll be able to edit them freely without worry, being able to change the style, size, shape, whatever and mot have the body mesh be altered accidently.
>>152849893
I do fairly miss that robot
>>152852804
Me too, anon. Me too.
>>152852090
And he was me thinking it added less.
But sweet, advice taken on board.
Gonna have another go at it after work, thanks again man.
>>152850681
They've been appearing a lot lately, actually.
Sonic Generations obviously but also Sonic Colors and Sonic Lost World.Especially the latter, which not only brought back old badniks but also brought back flickies
>>152829212
>>152829349
If Mighty and Knuckles were just the same exact strength, what would be the difference between them?
>>152829212
>>152829349
>>152856386
>>152856386
>>152856494
Who's this OC
>>152856432
How they use it and their beliefs.
>>152829212
>>152829349
>>152856386
>>152856494
>>152829212
>>152829349
>>152856386
>>152856494
>>152857095
>>152829212
>>152829349
>>152856386
>>152856494
>>152857095
>>152857193
>>152856778
What would be the difference in how they use it?
>>152849893
Th-that's lewd!
>>152829391
But the E-Series are Badniks
a very specific line of Badniks
>>152842015
I love this so much. I wish I'd be here when you come in the thread though.
I wonder how Ian and Evan's Boom episodes will turn out, if they are actually gonna write some.
>>152859024
Ian could probably use jokes/stories he planned for the Boom comic.
I don't really know about Evan, though. I haven't really seen too much of pure comedy stuff done by her.
Speaking of Evan, apparently she's been working on a game doing art for it.
>>152859080
Sonic 1 wasn't exactly the most interesting thing ever, I'd think it would take 4-5 issues covering the entire Genesis Trilogy &KNUCKLES but I guess notI don't read comics so if I'm being stupid about something then sorry
>>152839697
Sonic R
Sonic Spinball
Fiona Fox
Giantess
>Just in time for Team Flare Hype
>>152859801
For a second I thought his pupils were replaced with (Yo u)
>>152842604
>Super Saiyajin Rosé Black defeats Z-Fighters.jpg
What's the best modern Sonic level and why is it Generations Seaside Hill?
>>152805683
Dang
>>152860259
Why is it Generations Seaside Hill, anon?
>>152858681
>a very specific line of Badniks
that's the point
they're superior than the staple Badniks that we see, even Egg Robo
>>152860430
>Great pacing, lots of platforming without loss of overall speed
>A huge variety of different routes, including some that go through unique terrain not visible from the main path
>Wide open 3D spaces
>Water bit that can be completely avoided if you take the right route, like Aquatic Ruin
>Optional vehicle section
>Whales
>>152860415
>>152860997
one year eight months
>>152861439
wut?
>>152861439
wow
fuck you
>>152861625
>fuck you
What did he do?
>>152861439
Feels really bad man. I hope the new VA is up to the task. By the way, have we heard him in the role in the new games? If not, when are we first going yo hear him?
>Last year I visited Anime Blues Con ‘15 and Garry Chalk (voice of Optimus Primal from Beast Wars, Grounder from AOSTH, and many others) was one of the guests. I attended his panel and asked him what it was like to work with Long John Baldry. He described Baldry as a gentlemanly sort who was very professional on the job. Since Baldry had no means of transportation, Chalk would have to drive him home. As they would be driving home on the expressway, Baldry would sometimes express concern over Chalk too fast even though he would probably have been driving only very slightly over the speed limit. So I decided to make the above fan art to commemorate the anecdote.
>>152861439
Wait what's going on?
>>152863093
Eggman's japanese voice actor died a while back.
>>152862018
>By the way, have we heard him in the role in the new games?
I don't think so
>If not, when are we first going yo hear him?
When they dub Sonic Boom Cartoon
>>152861495
>>152861983
>>152863093
it's been that long since Chikao Ohtsuka died
http://imgur.com/a/KBBEp
>Tikal hunting spirits and other malicious entities
neat little comic
>>152846458
Ever notice thatKnuckles never had ears
>>152863298
>Chikao Ohtsuka
>decide check out who he has voiced
>Professor Moriarty
>Jagi
>Gol D. Roger
>Master Xenahort
>Dr. Weil
>Tao
>Wario
>this guy has been dead over a year and I didn't know
>>152861439
>exactly 10 years after Bristow died>yfw Pollock kicks it
>>152864049
That's messed up yo.
>>152864049
>>yfw Pollock kicks it
NO
When are we getting the new Universe?
>>152864514
Next issue is out the 31st. Sooner if someone gets it early and scans it.
>>152865339
>used a spring to launch herself at Metal since she wouldn't be able to reach him otherwise
I love shit like this. Anyone got any pics or know offhand when a character used a game universe item tactfully in the comic?
I would kill for the next cover being Sonic vs Big Arm in Launch Base.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcRXk32nE7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB5LueVuXxc
What other characters from Cartoons and Comics you want playable in fangames and hacks.
>>152866548
Gemerlsince I've given up on my hack
>>152866778
>since I've given up on my hack
Heresy, you dirty quitter
>>152866548
Bunnie should have her own Bionic Commando type game.
I never got why Bunnie was such an optimist in the comics. I mean, you'd think someone who lost most of their body to robotics against their will and can never live a normal life would be a pessimist if anything. Someone who's just angry at the world and herself.
For that matter why would Antoine go for her at all? I get that he'd give up Sally, but there were probably other girls in Knothole (Background characters I dunno) that he could choose besides the one with the robotic fucking limbs
>>152866548
Chris Thorndyke. He has no attacks and runs incredibly slow. And dies in one hit, no matter how many rings he has.
>>152867172
That's mean anon.
>>152866548
>Knuckles Emerald Hunt
>Robotnik Creature Capture
>Big's Fishing Adventure
>still no Tails-themed hack that radically changes the gameplay
As far as "X in Sonic1/2" goes,Blaze the Cat in Sonic 1/2Just to see what a boost feature would be like with Genesis physics
>>152867383
I mean there is still no hack for Boost Sonic for Genesis. If they hacked Blaze in she would just play like Sonic but just twirl instead of roll and maybe have the heel jets.
>>152867138
Well, it's not like it really hinders her that much in combat, aside from that technomage. Also, what about people who lose their arms and legs in accidents but still end up with happy families? Should they toss that all away to brood forever?
I take it you've never been in love either. Someone's background doesn't matter if you love and care for them. A southern bell with a frenchman is adorable too.
>>152867580I only said Blaze to be more in-line with anon's original question, I just wanna see boost with genesis physics to prove a point to someone.Basically, a few people have told me Rush and other boost games lack momentum because the game would be insanely hard to control otherwise. There is no proof of concept for this, yet.
>>152867012I've moved on to 3D. This morning I made a lowpoly spaceship and was very pleased with the results. I'll make some free ones for /sthg/ once I git gud
>>152863298
What about Fire & Ice?
>>152867763
I dunno I think if I had to choose between a woman with a vagina and one without, I'd go with the one that actually has one, along with arms that won't crush my limbs by sheer accident. It's less a background thing and more of a practical thing
>>152867901
Also having clunky ass robotic limbs would make her stand out on a daily basis and basically make her look like a freak. Doesn't matter how good you are in combat that kind of shit must hurt her self esteem. So how can she be so cheerful about it?
>>152867901
That's you though. Not Ant. Try thinking in the way the character would
>>152867383
Tails, at his core, is very similar enough to Sonic already. Not much would change unless you de-emphasize his flight and over-emphasize his tech.
>>152868169
Your post made me realize why Tails doesn't have a fangame or romhack dedicated to himBecause you described Tails Adventure on the Game Gear
>>152868126
>that kind of shit must hurt her self esteem
>literally loved by the people she saved
>that entire wedding ceremony
Did Bunnie somehow become super hated and reviled after the reset?
>>152868142
And why wouldn't he choose the same? I assume at some point Antoine would actually like to have sex or hell, have kids, and that ain't happening with Bunnie
>>152867789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCGiEIncR7w
The physics in Sonic Rush are pretty weird. But making it so when you boost up hill it drains more meter and you slow down shouldn't be hard. And they could just make it so you brake faster.
>>152868298
>Did Bunnie somehow become super hated and reviled after the reset?
Would've been more interesting than what we have now
>still replying to it
When this place gets flooded by namefags and tripfags because you guys showed it was acceptable and turns into /ksg/ 2.0, know it wasn't my fault.
http://www.models-resource.com/ds/sonicchroniclesthedarkbrotherhood/model/16706/
>dat low poly
>>152868346
Not everything has to be about sex. As for kids, well, you don't exactly choose who you fall in love with. I'm sure the endgame was considered and he got over it. Unless they do that thing where someone else has the baby and they take care of it.
>>152868783
that shit looks terrible compared to rush
>>152868783
>>152869090
What kind of Special Stages do you think we'll be getting in Mania?
>>152869785
>>152868783
Chronicles displays 4+ character models in most fights
>>152869785
Rush only has models for the main characters, bosses, and the special stage tubing, everything else in the game is 2D and at most there will only ever be two 3D models on screen
>>152870029
I thought it was confirmed to be Blue Spheres
>>152870207
aren't the badniks 3D?
>>152870308
>aren't the badniks 3D?
nope, sprites
Also even the boss narrators, tails and cream, are just sprites of their 3D models
Abyss lewds when?
>>152870086
Sonic Rush should've been fully 2D
>>152867901
I hope you're not implying that Bunnie is missing her babymaker. All that equipment is still there.
>>152868346
Except it fucking did, idiot. Or did you skip 30 Years Later?
>>152870787
But I like the 3d
>>152870436
>only to be posted on
I don't get this. Why try to stop people from posting elsewhere when they put it on the internet in the first place? It's like tumblrtards on pixiv trying to enforce asking their permission for everything, but really- who would really bother with that kind of trouble? Their name is stamped there, so it's not like someone will claim they made it.
>>152870910
Non canon and I don't buy for a second that she was able to have kids
>>152870795
At least pre-reboot, that shit was robotic
>>152870787
Near the DS' launch
DS was trying to sell itself for
>3D on a handheld
>touch screen
>two screens
Rush had all three of these things ham-fisted into the game when in reality Sonic advance 4 would've been just fine
>>152871354
What about the mic
>>152871427
Forgot the DS had one
Even Nintendo kinda strayed away from the thing after the glorified tech demo that was Phantom Hourglass
>>152871427
The only time I ever used the mic was playing TWEWY. There was an attack that required shouting into it, but blowing or whistling would work just as well.
>>152871354
>those sprites at end of Rush
>Blaze sprite never to be used again
>>152871706
JUST
>>152871706
>>152872241
Why don't you fags learn how to sprite
>>152871146
>that shit was robotic
yes but still functional
she was able to have kids in MXYL
I think Ian explained that roboticized body parts retain all function of the originals...makes sense, considering it was originally supposed to be used for medical application
>>152872335
>implying i don't
because a couple of other sonic spriters already did a bunch of edits for Blaze, familia
so why bother?
>>152872335
but i do?
>>152872524
>edits
Make them scratch yourself famila they look better when you do that. I mean look at this fuck and his chaos with boobs edit >>152872672
>>152872335
because being a sprite artist is balls and 3D is doesn't feel like such a chore when it comes to animation
>>152873078
Guess that explains Berserk.
>>152869785
Rush probably has my most favorite design of modern Sonic
>>152872335
Spriting is fucking slave labor
Like fuck it's a really underappreciated art just because people assume animating a 3D model is hard.
You know why so many games just use 3D models on a 2D plane as opposed to the kind of pretty shit that's possible in 2D nowadays?
Because the hardest part of 3D animation is making the model. I won't short-sell 3D animation, I would know that's also tough, but 3D animators can work with key frames, they don't have to make every single frame of the animation manually like spriters do.
But shit man when it's done right and with effort 2D animation looks gorgeous
>>152874163
>people assume animating a 3D model is hard.
harder*
fuck
>>152874163
Use a better example than that because it just looks retarded.
>>152874163
>>152874275
Don't need to, someone did it for me >>152874331
>>152874275
obligatory
Reminder that had Maria lived, she would've become a crazy mad scientist like the rest of her family. SCIENCE!!! is hereditary. In her case however, she's such a goody two shoes, she'd be making wacky devices to help people.
>>152874827great gif but there's a nipplebrace yourself for the swatbot
>>152874975
the only thing impressive in this is the sand
>>152875102
>nipple
Don't let your imagination kid you.
>>152872882
literally the whole body stance and "hairstyle" is mostly custom, the only thing that isn't "by scratch" is the face. (which is ripped straight from the head of Chaos' sonic battle sprite)
>>152874992
I wonder if she and Ivo would get along
>>152872417
Just think about all those metal dildos
>>152875647
depends on her good/evil alignment and whether or not Shadow meets Sonic
>>152875371
but
no
I looked at it frame-by-frameI'd post it but that's off-topic AND gonna get me swatted
>>152875765
>>152875647
Aren't they cousins technically?
>>152875647
that's one good looking gilf
>>152875773
>check
>mfw
>mfw realizing the whole game could be filled with it
That had to be a sprite edit. B-but I'll need to check, just in case.
>>152876007
It is a sprite edit, I've seen an imgur album full of them for filia and cerebellathose are some sneaky tools for shitposting
>>152875647
They would get along to a degree, sure. They are family after all. Maria would disapprove of his attempts at world domination, and would constantly try to convince him to use his genius for good. At the same time, Ivo would try to spin the megalomania into trying to create some sort of utopia, and that Maria should join him.
But ultimately, Maria would go back to using her giant robots to perform open-heart surgery, and Ivo would use his to burn villages to the ground. But they can still have tea like civil cousins.
>>152875957
being frozen kind of helps
or black arms DNA, depending on which headcanon you prefer
>>152875926
your point?
>>152868783
Dat's beautiful
>>152874163
Where's my Peacock Cassia
>>152874163
Sprite artists are god-tier.
Although it's far too easy to botch it up by making it too complicated or too bland.
3D animators have it kind of tough but yeah, key framing compared is too easy.
The fact Sonic Mania looks gorgeous and Knuckles and Tails andEGGMANandAmy pls Taxmanhave new sprites is more than I could ever ask.
>>152876139
You'd best share
>>152876315
That is so cute and I want it to be real.
>>152876139
Thanks for the info. And that is sneaky.
>>152875647
I like to believe that if Maria's alive, Gerald's alive, therefore Eggman's not evil, just incredibly greedy about expanding his business and making theme parks. And security robots. But not evil as such.
And then Maria would be all curing diseases and robots based on healthcare.
I already have my "What if Black Doom was hit by a bus before he got back to ARK and GUN was aight" storyline.
>>152876510
That's actually quite a sweet photo, makes Eggman seem caring for once.
>Hope
Goddamnit Penders, why.
>>152876349
Personally, I'd prefer a combination cyborg/cryo-freeze. Maybe the G.U.N unit that ended up shooting a dying little girl felt kind of awful and secretly took her away to get her brain removed and put in a prosthetic body, Ghost in the Shell style. ... Not sure why the hell Gerald didn't do that, but whatever.
I do like the idea of Maria still being alive, but I have no idea how exactly you'd make a compelling story out of it. Like, she's alive, and she can have some cute interaction with Shadow before finding out he works for G.U.N... but then what?
>>152877354
Bringing her back wouldNever happen because outside of Archie you're never getting a story againmean that Shadow would lost a lot of "I got over this and am content with my life" progression as a character.
Although it's a cool what if.
Although Maria seems like the person who would forgive, unlike Gerald. Shadow would just turn into a mess who would keep her safe from everything, quit GUN, never leave her side ever again.
>>152877583
>Bringing her back would mean that Shadow would lost a lot of "I got over this and am content with my life" progression as a character.
On the contrary, if anything it could reinforce it. Have a story where they find out Maria's alive, Shadow's involved trying to figure out what's going on, and at the end they have a heart-to-heart where Shadow explains he's moved on with his life, Maria understands, and they'll still be friends but not connected with each other anymore.
...which makes them sound like ex-lovers who broke up but whatever.
>>152877583
If Maria is as much of would-be saint as we assume, then she'd probably end up working for G.U.N and basically just taking up Hope's old job. Shadow would have even less of a reason to quit if he had his imouto right there.
And I think that could work without straight copying the Hope stuff because Maria seems like more of a proper lady as opposed to Hope's tomboy. So her dynamic with the rest of Team Dark would be similar, but different enough.
Though I suppose you could avoid cheapening her death by having "Maria" be a robot duplicate or clone of the original who has a different personality.
>>152877264
That'sMolly, Anon
>>152876510
>>152878179
>Molly
You mean the QT fighter pilot from Sonic X?
She's also dead. ... Goddammit.
>>152878179MollyWhatLike from Sonic X?
>>152878487
Any more pics of her?
>>152878487
>>152878572Yes. That Molly.
>>152878487
Molly, Maria, Cosmo, Tikal - Dead
Hope - Erased out of reality
Tiara - Erased out of existence
Helen - In a wheelchair
Sega hates young girls.
Did I miss anything?Besides the usual of me being a massive faggot?
>>152878706
Not really, just some screenshots. She's a one shot character from Sonic X after all, so it's not like she's popular or anything.
>>152868126
>make her look like a freak
>he says in a world of freaky talking animals
>>152879323
>loud and obnoxious
>all that BEEEP BEP BEEP BEEEEP BEEEP
Thought I was gonna go deaf
>>152879791
Oh, but we can make her popular...
>>152879923
Why bother?
>>152880430
Don't you want more cute girls?
>>152879923
... I suppose we could try.
>Tears of Grace just finished his Sonic 06 playhrough
the entire playlist is madness
I still can't believe he passed Silver Dust Desert ball puzzle in 1 try. I was expectign him to actually have to glitch through the door, like everyone else who got sick of pimpslapping that ball for hours.
>>152878487
Man that last season of Sonic X was fucked up
>>152880462
I don't like corpses.
>>152877846
>and at the end they have a heart-to-heart where Shadow explains he's moved on with his life, Maria understands, and they'll still be friends but not connected with each other anymore.
I hate this.
>>152880723
Season 3 is when you could tell the writers were just flat out fucking bored, and said "FUCK IT, LETS GO AS GRIMDARK AS WE FUCKING CAN!".
And somehow, it kinda worked.
>>152875305
It's actually water, but yeah, they failed to post the superior version of it firing cannons.
the best animations are the death by fire ones though. That and the zombie walks
>>152879323
>Rings in unobtainable locations
Don't remember there ever being rings you cannot get
>Switching rails
The only time you should be trying to quick-switch on rails is when they're parallel. If you neutral jump (not pushing the analog stick in a direction when jumping) then you should have no problem
>spindash and somersault are same button
you need to git gud. tap button = somersault. press and hold = spindash.
>Final Chase gravity
The gravity here is simple and miles better than Mad Space. My only complaint is the top of gravity cylinders having terrible edge collision.
>Security Hall time limit
you should really only die once or twice in this stage from timeout. If you've been playing the game, you should know to look for help in any stage asap
>Can't see Knuckle's fists
Why do you care about this? This is the weirdest complaint on the list.
>Multiplayer Ring Powers favor the leader
Only if they have a sizable gap. you get powerups if you die and come back and the time stop/chaos control time increases in distance from the leader (unless you turned handicap off).
>>152768012
FUUUUCK this is so cool. I don't read the comics but I might give this one a look. Is it out yet?
I cry every timeSeriously I had to lower the voluem so I wouldn't bawl my eyes out.
I still want mania on 3DS
>>152802803
Ian has said, multiple times, on his PERSONAL podcast, that they are gone, bringing them back is beyond his position in the company, and they aren't interested.
Did you not know about the SECOND Lawsuit that happened recently? If Archie was considering it then, they certainly not after that fiasco.
>>152803851
she has a shoulderless top, now
>>152819129
What about Archie Sonic Online?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WvOdcThuOA
>>152883364
>Did you not know about the SECOND Lawsuit that happened recently?
How many lawsuits can one comic produce?
>>152851162
Reworked the model to not look abysmal.
Looks a lot easier to sort out all the problems, thanks man.
Probably some topology problems in the face but alas.
>>152883939
>filename
kek
>>152883528
Slut!
>>152879796
She'd stand out even more. God knows Bunnie could use an actual character conflict
>>152882207
>Big locations have been replaced with rings.
>Rings under the beginning ramp of metal harbor.
>Quick switching rails on Final Rush or Grind Race will often send you off
>Delay on somersault
>>152884389
I'm sure we can do better than retread.
Does anyone know the odds for the daily spin in Sonic Dash?
>>152885751
It wouldn't be a retread, since she's never really had to face any sort of on screen hatred before. If anything, things have worked out too well for her. She just had a husband and supportive friends fall into her lap. She's never really had to suffer and I think that's bullshit. It's made her a rather stale character. Axe the Bunnie/Antoine relationship to start, and basically just make her life miserable and force her to EARN that happy ending
>>152883939
This looks way better anon! I'll critique it later as I need to highlight any improvements that could be made and I'm not at my computer at the moment.
>>152884984
>Big locations have been replaced by rings
I don't understand this sentence. Are you saying there are rings where Big the Cat used to appear?
>Rings under the beginning ramp of Metal Harbor
I need a picture of this. I don't recall such a thing.*
>Final Rush and Grind Race
I used to fly through these stages all the time and flying off the rails never happened to me*
*I'm going off of memory of the Gamecube version
>>152867901
>>152870795
this is dumb, we know since the reboot she only had her legs and her arm roboticized without all that genital nonsense.
>>152876798
damn that fucker can sprint
>Zombie Sonic
Fucking Frogs
>>152887168
Thought that was Joseph at first.
>>152885350
you're a nigger
>>152887461
It'll be out in november.
>>152887409
>Thought that was Joseph at first.
I thought so too until I realized it was the sheriff.
>>152888520
Well I'm sure glad he's there and that he's the sheriff
Call me an autist but does anyone else want to see an attempt at another sonic anime? Instead it gets animated by production ig or bones and the dub isn't a pile of shit or censcored. I only saying this because I believe that they could pull it off really well
>>152889295
>production ig
you mean the ones that animated the sonic riders opening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qVfBEUGxeo
>>152889295
eh, Id rather see the comics get adapted
>>152889630
There's no way that would ever happen
>>152889295
A cartoon is fine as well.
>>152889295
I JUST WANTED AN ANIMATED OPENING FOR MANIA
IT'S THE ONLY THING I COULD ASK FOR SEGA
>>152889860
>Implying
Not even the French would make Blaze sexy, and they have waifus on breadstick packets.
>>152889868
Who would you want to animate it, anonWhy didn't you dodge that fireblast
>>152867901
well this takes me back. i got so fucking sick of this discussion back before the reboot, thankfully it's almost gone now.
i understand that good science fiction has to be believable but this is a cartoony franchise about a blue cartoon hedgehog that goes fast, not deus ex. you are not supposed to overthink it. there were no implications that bunnies robotic parts had any negative impacts on her ability to have a relationship beyond the aesthetic. of course the idea of just accepting and not overthinking specifics of something doesn't register with sperglords. not to mention that there are a lot more medical questions with her being half robot than just "how does she have sex?". why doesn't she break her spine trying to lift heavy stuff? her spine would have to be robotic too. in fact pretty much all her internals would have to be robotic for her to move freely like she does or something organic would always be a weak link bound to break. and that's just about movement, of course non of that is interesting.
i'm pretty sure she was redesigned the way she was specifically so autistic fucks would stop pestering them with the sex/fertility question.
>>152889295
Eh. If they did i'd want it to focus on sonic and friends. Maybe with sonic as the main character and teaming up with friends episode to episode. The important factors are.
Side characters have to do something other than sit around, wait for sonic and talk to humans.
Also keep humans to a minimum, if not eliminating them entirely.
Either have an overarching story or make it a series of short adventures.
I'm not really sure it'd work.
>>152891675
It definitely could in my eyes but I agree about what you said regarding humans
>>152891675
Didn't Boom do most of that anyway while being hilarious?
>>152890164
>Not even the French would make Blaze sexy
Please, they might not stop her from beingflat, but they'd probably at least show her midriff once.
>>152892159
Yes but what Boom has in comedy it lacks in decent action. I'd like to see the reverse of that out of an anime. Amazing, fast paced well rendered animated fights and mild humor.
PROJECT 2017 ANIME WHEN
Y'all got any more of them Sonic Expand Dong pics?
>>152879323
>half of these things are problems in SA1 too
hope you don't like that one anon
>Kart stages
unless you go for 100%, Kart missions are fine, much better than sky chase anyway.
>unobtainable rings
replacing big cameos, you're probably the only person who cares.
>somersault and spindash share a button
replace that line with "fucking everything shares a button"
>halt when poking a wall
bigger problem in SA1
>hints
SA2 hints (provided you use them as much as you can) are far superior to tikal hints
>knuckles upgrades
"Big Issues In Sonic Adventure 2"
>missing 2-player chao garden
If you mean doing chao shit aside from race/karate, fuck off m80, there's no point to doing that multiplayer
Made a lot of good points though, ignoring petty things
So uh, this just happened.
Wow.
>>152827363
who made this? It's glorious
>>152893380BLAMBLAMBLAM
>>152835831
Silver got the short end of the stick because he was in a universally panned game.
If you put any of sonic's friends in the 2d games where they were just sonic with an extra gimmick, then nobody would get their panties in a twist about them
>>152894030
> what is Shadow the hedgehog
>>152892854
>>152894085
Shadow debuted in SA2, which was generally enjoyed and only hated now in hindsight by "Sonic was never good" tards. Sonic 06 was garbage the moment it came out.
>>152893965
I was not expecting that even though I knew about the reset button. That was incredibly dark.
>>152894085
Maria's ultimate lover.
>>152894085
You forgot that shadow was very well liked in SA2. It's the whole reason he even came back in the first place. SA2 in general was loved by many.
Shadow didn't start catching hardcore shit from people until his game came out.
>>152894254
06's only, single redeeming factor is the music. That's it. Memes where just a bonus.
>>152894374
DELET
>>152894374
What is he doing?
>>152894460
And that's my point. Shadow only stands well when he's part of the supporting cast. An actual game based on his character wouldn't work as well.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ega1iEUtRU
Oh fuck, this looks incredible.
Especially the 'Big' gameplay shows how much effort went into recreating this stage, it even features his fishing areas aswell as the hotel itself. Simply amazing.
Sonic for Hire was great.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=EL5UyoVWOpVJ8
>>152894734
Eating a chili-dogstarting from the middle.
>>152895013
You aren't wrong
>>152894745
Depends on what you think his character is.
>>152894954
Emerald Coast is my favourite 3D Sanic level.
It looks great.
Shame the music doesn't change once you get into the jungle area past the lighthouse.
I also hate the "whoosh" sound the springs make.
>>152850836I hate their redesign in that game
>>152895013
I stopped at Season 6 because no one uploaded a marathon version and I hate Machinimas in video ads.
>>152894954
>go to pixiv
>figure it'd be much different from deviantart
>filter out R18 and use Japanese tags
>still get lewd homolust
A step better than OCs, but still uncomfortable.
>>152895660
Shit, meant for >>152854515As in I hate their LW designs
>>152895632
One of Sonic's best moments in the series. Say what you will about the gameplay, but the storybook series really knew how to handle Sonic as a character.
>>152851203
I've always wondered if Cosmo was based off of her
>>152895632
Rat
>>152896394
>>152896394
Today is MA-RI-A, Maria!
>>152896394
Rouge
>>152894745
>An actual game based on his character wouldn't work as well.
That honestly depends on what happens.
Giving him a gun and other things that StH did weren't that good.
You could easily have him being sent on missions by GUN with the assistance of Team Dark and make a game from it
>>152896602
Ew, why would you post that picture?
>>152896394
>>152896394
Claiming cutest girl!
>>152896762
Pretty much the only good gijinka picture of rouge
>>152896394
>>152896879Tig ol' Biddies
Most good Maria pics are done by Aoki.
Just felt like a change of style.
You don't like it?
>>152896394
>>152896913
>>152897105
You can only have one waifu, which one is it?
>>152897179
>Cheese
>>152896394
>>152897121
She has a severe case of tumblr-face, especially the nose.
>>152896879
Here have this one instead
>>152897179
Vanilla for Waifu
>>152896394
>>152897159
No need to be angry Tails
>>152897454
she looks so shocked and worried.
Was it a mistake to bed the ultimate lifeform?
>>152896394
>>152878487
It's been long since I've last watched Sonic X. How the hell did Shadow met her?
>>152876570
you've haven't seen real beauty
>>152897628
Yes
>>152897943
That outfit is much better suited for a girl.
>>152896394
No thanks. I already have a human waifu. As for husbandos...I-I'm not a furry I swear.
Going to make a new thread
>>152896394
yo
>>152894460
How did Silver came back then? Never played/watched 06, but was he one of the redeeming things in that game besides music?
>>152899137
Because Iizuka decided to toss him into Rivals for whatever reason.
>>152896394
>>152899360
Didn't Rivals come out a couple weeks after 06 though? So that means they both must have been in development around the same time.
>>152899468
>>152899468
>>152899468
Here it is
>>152896394
Future (S3) Helen.
>>152867230
That's *Justice, anon