/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

>>152714914
Recycled OP picture edition.

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>>152714991
>152714991
I was in a rush because no one else made a thread

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rate my autism and my legos
yellow are cards i have, blue letters ones I crafted and black border (only two) goldens

>>152715171
>no dr boom

>>152715343
gvg legos are unlisted but i have the good doctor (first craft), mogor the ogre and foe reaper

>>152715171
makes me feel not so bad about my txt file of legos i want

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>>152715551
also got one for epics complete with automatic calculations on all numbers and updated color coding when the number in the owned category is changed

>>152715171
>Fandral Tier 3
Not only autistic, but also retarded.

>>152716117
the categories are not how good the legos are (krush is tier 2 for instance) but how much i need/want them
tier 3 is cards I don't care about but wouldn't mind opening and fandral fits that category perfectly since I don't like playing druid even if it's a strong card

Any EU's I can spectate for watch & learn?

>>152716329
post your tag dummy

>>152714914
I want to fuck Zeriyah in the ass if you know what I mean.

>>152715839
did you know they added a feature where you can search "missing" and it will show all of them?

>>152716508
yea but it doesn't show them all on one page with color coding for which are actually important/nice to have

>>152716408
Fine

Anyone else just spending their gold to buy Classic packs? There's a lot of shit I'm missing form the set, and since I got Karazhan for free I don't see anything else being worth it.

>get to turn 8 against Hunter
>lose
great class, definitely healthy for the meta game.

>>152716748
Always spend gold on arena. You simply get more bang for your buck.

>>152716546
Nice trip Erakhe !VvpTpsbsOs

>>152716993
Not a trip, just a typo.

>>152716954
But arena sucks dick senpai. During LoE I was almost infinite, but once WoG dropped everything went to shit. Besides, I prefer making my own decks and playing with them than drafting shit while half of my opponents have PhD. Explosion.

>>152716694
mate you are doing shit to complicated, in the future post

quest
server
battle#tag

>>152716884
>get to turn 8 against hunter
You were either a shit aggro player, or a warrior who is supposed to get countered by hunter anyway.

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>playing against tempo mage as rogue
>for the first 4 turns he done nothing but ping
>I have a board with 10 health points worth in minions
>turn 5 he Mana worn + Arcane Intellect leaving him with 9 cards on hand
>Sap it and ended up burning his Thaurissan
>thinking now all I have to do is harvest the easy win
>next turn he plays Apprentice + Flamewanker + shit load of spells and actually clears my board
Thank fucking god Flamewanker is rotating next year.

Alright nigs come claim your 80 gold
Bdc#21378 EU

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Has Blizzard given up trying to print control cards? There's multiple easy solutions to make playing aggro an actual risk, but Blizzard seems hesitant to outright unwilling to do so, yet they continue to pump out insane value early drops. Is Hearthstone fated to remain an aggro centric card game?

As an aside, would my shitty Oc be playable in todays format?

>>152718062
It should deal 3 damage only to minions

>>152718184
Not trying to be contrarian, but do you have a reason why the 3 face damage makes it over the top? I designed it to be an unattractive choice of card for Aggro Shaman, so I assumed making a potentially better consecrate would be ok.

>>152717649
Fuck you. I can't play any cheap minions against rogue because of ebin backstab and SI Deal 2 damage Agent.

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>there are people in this thread who doesn't IMMEDIATELY click end turn when it lights up
fucking scum

>>152718062
Why would anyone play this crap

>>152718470
>>>/tv/

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Does /hsg/ agree?

>>152718386
>Unattractive for Aggro Shaman
>When Aggro Shaman runs a 6 5/5 that has the same reduction effect
Please. Also
>inb4 "b-but that's midrange shaman"
t. Shaman Shitters.

>>152718472
Because it provides an effective method for midrange and control shaman to build a board presence and punish pure aggro decks that don't try to control board presence like Zoo. It makes playing aggro an actual risk, instead of the braindead auto-win it usually turns out to be.

>>152718574
Read the text again nigger. It's for totems in play when the card is cast, not all totems played across the match.

>>152718543
i predict violet illusionist will be mediocre, medivh will be gimmicky, malchezaar will be useful, rest will be alright

menagerie will be broken when druid gets perfect curve which won't always happen

>>152717649
Tempo mage is not even that good, its like top tier 2 or low tier 1 at best

>>152718698
malchezaar will be useless*

>>152718386
General formula for AoE is damage*2 mana. Substract 0.5 mana if it can't hit face. Giving shaman more cards with face damage is dangerous, it already has enough burst and sustained damage from underpriced minions like trogg, golem, thing and fire ele.

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>August 23, 2016 8:22 pm EST
>Reynad STILL isn't Legend

>>152718543
God I want to do meme shenanigans with Medivh

Is this a game where I will lose forever if I start playing now, due to missing out on loads of old cards?

>>152719249
yes, and even if you spend 100-200 you will still be behind

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>>152718698

It will always happen when I face druids but never when I am a druid

>>152719249
Unless you dump around a 100$,yep.You will forever be playing catch up

>>152719249

I'm playing an all-gold mage Yogg deck and I just lost a standard game to a mage who had bloodfen raptor, tazdingo and boulderfist ogre in his deck. Granted, he had perfect draws and I drew like complete shit but it still happened.

>>152719357
>>152719421

Great, thanks for saving me the trouble.

>>152719545

These are not real words.

>>152717483

What does Valeera file under?

Do you think reynad and kripp know how much of an insufferable faget they've become?

>>152719996
I doubt they care.They are all dead inside from playing hearthstone all as their only source of income

>>152719978

It means I'm a P2Wfag who has spent hundreds of dollars to get animated cards in a children's game yet I still lost to somebody who was playing with a deck using basic cards that everyone has.

>>152718543
did you edit this image and replace barnes with prince malchezaar?

>>152719994
she wins before turn 8

>>152720207

Oh, okay. Thanks for clearing it up.

Would Anub'arak be broken if it was a priest or warrior card?

>>152717814
sent

>>152720390
Every card is a priest card anon :^)

>>152720229

Lol

>It is that time of the month again
>Need to climb to rank 5
>Cant muster forces to reach rank 10
Ladder is such a fucking bore.

>>152720992
Why play if you arent having fun

why do Tempo Mages play so quickly? anyone else ever notice this? like as soon as you put something on the board it's like a snap reaction from them to throw a spell at it.

do they think they are Sonic?

>see someone in friend list climbing from 10 to 7 while I play arena
>fell from 6 to 9 in the last two days

feels bad

>draft sick rogue deck
>but too many 3/2s
>lose to consecrate even though i never get board clears
>lose to skulker even though i never get board clears

Fuck you God. Literally starting to think you don't exist.

>>152718543

>no barnes
>malcheese

What a shit list.

>>152721529
>God wasting time on winning the games for you.
Maybe he's telling you to do something else with your life, something more meaningful? Or why would God want YOU to win and not your opponent?

>>152721492
>got to rank 5 in three days
>friend can't get past rank 19
I feel bad. I want to help but what can I do.

>>152718543

Who with any small knowledge on this game even thinks malchezaar remotely good?

There is exactly 1 match up it would be good in, and said matchup is dead for quite some time already

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>tfw a recent opponent would like to be your friend
>tfw accept
>tfw no hatemail
what am I doing wrong?
I'm playing zoo and facehunter and freezemage

>>152721718
God is happy if people are sad, thats give him power over us.

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>>152721106

>why do drugs if the heroin is killing you
>why keep eating if your obesity will make you die of a heart attack at 35
>why keep drinking if alcohol is destroying your liver
Because we're addicted

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jesus christ

So, this control deck warrior just hit me to my face with ragnaros when I had 5 minions on my deck then on the next turn used a brawl and killed 6 of minions and only his ragnaros survived. He had 5 HP left.

>>152707872
They've chosen a target market segment/niche for hearthstone that's generally horribly difficult to balance with competitive interests. And though the dev team's actually been quite successful at hitting the marks they've been aiming for (eg see % of female players), they've never been up to the challenge of maintaining a fundamentally casual game with a vibrant competitive scene.

It takes hardened industry vets to tackle problems like this, since you can't just move sliders around, add/remove things, pick means, split differences, etc.
Reconciling completely opposite interests requires coming up with new, creative, powerful solutions, and such skills can't be taught in a computer science program or lifted cheaply off interns.

In HS, yoggs is a critical element of the emotional experience the devs are aiming for, ie "anything can happen", "it's never too late", "you might get lucky", etc.
Also provides a massive crutch for low-skill players: basically a mulligan. Played like shit and lost hard? Throw down yoggs for a last chance! Maybe you can turn it into a win after all!

Of course, since HS is multiplayer, this necessarily alienates the opposing player, who feels like they got fucked. They did everything right! They dominated the game, played expertly! What more could they have done?
Yoggs is especially bad in this regard since it fucks them over so directly and flamboyantly: rather than a subtle swing, it's a giant rainbow RNG dick rammed straight down their throats.
The devs have either disregarded this (in classic blizz fashion) or chosen to accept it, in which case they're probably banking on high-skill players being rare enough on ladder and in general such that they aren't actually alienating that many people.
Also, they likely have good relationships (ie $$$) with the top streamers and can keep them under control on this and other issues (since most are skilled competitive players and would otherwise be royally pissed-off at this).

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>>152722427

>he doesn't know about the hidden brawl text that reads "The warrior's only minion has a 99% chance of winning the brawl"

>there will be shitters who will actually play prince justfuckupmydeck
Thanks for free wins

>>152722727
I saw some people talking about Ragnaros having a higher % of hitting face yesterday on this very same general but I thought that was bullsht. You tried to warn me /hsg/.

>>152722962
Guess what Warrior's win axe hidden text is.

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>>152722572
Yogg is the only card in the game that makes the losing player (the Yogger) feel great and the winning player (the Yogged) feel like shit.

Brode talks a lot about balancing the game for the emotional response that players feel when targeted with particular cards (Mind Control, Thoughtsteal, etc) but then they turn around and add Yogg, a card that completely flips the game state in addition to triggering the shit out of the formerly winning player. For proof of this, look at the emotional responses from the players in the recent NA prelims. The Yogger, who has nothing to lose by playing Yogg as a hail mary card, always has a big ol' smile on his face while the Yogged, who has everything on the line set to lose, can be seen breaking down to tears in some cases. Yogg is a sickening affront to the competitive aspect of Hearthstone and its inclusion into the Standard set shows just how ignorant of the playerbase and their wants that Brode and company actually are.

I hate Yogg and everything that it represents.

>>152722230
>he actually thinks I'm serious about "god"
anon plz

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>When all of your win conditions are in the bottom third of your deck

>>152723147
increased chance of being in opening hand, just like mana worm has when going second

>>152721793
maybe try spectating him and giving some pointers, idk

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>watching friend play arena vs warrior
>gets turn 5 gruul from unstable portal
>ravaging ghoul
>execute

no escape

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>>152714914
>Priest with 11 HP
>Drops Priest of the Feast + Auchenai on board

>I go face and leave in with 2 HP

>He hero powers my high and trades.... OH HE'S DEAD.

>Not Quite as planned. Not Quite as planned.

THIS IS THE KIND OF PERSON THAT PLAYS PRIEST.

>>152720390
Yes. Most of Rogue's "Control" cards would be absolutely broken in a class with the proper tools to control the board.
Anub is infinite threat generation with the 8/4 and 4/4 bodies it leaves behind.
Gallywix is insane for the removal stealing and value he provides off the 5/8 body.
Sap is probably the best single-target removal in the game behind Execute and maybe Entomb.
Gang Up and Beneth the Grounds would just give stupidly strong value to anyone but Rogue.

The problem Rogue seems to always have though is that they can't clear lots of small bodies efficiently (Dark Iron Skulker and Fan of Knives being their only really options now that Blade Flurry has been deleted) and they can't heal without using weak neutral options like Cult Apothcary and Earthen Ring.

>>152723257

>▪Playing quest rogue
>takes so l9ng to show up in thought I chose the wrong deck

>>152723519
and what kind of person plays le lonely orc of counting to 8

>>152723257
>draw all your earlygame on curve
>never draw your lategame bombs and wincons, instead just drawing all your earlygame again
Only thing worse is drawing your deck bottom-up vs Aggro

>>152723617
>vs aggro
>Auctioneer, Shiv, Drake in opening hand

>vs control
>Deadly, Leeroy, Backstab in opening hand

playing Rogue requires thick skin.

How am I supposed to play against Anyfin Control Paladin anyways? I usually play Priest but I think the only time I managed to beat it with Priest is when I stole two forbidden healings, and even then I got to 1 hp before I stabilized.

>>152723683
High IQ, intelligent and sophisticated children's poker player. :^)

>>152724104
>Anyfin Control Paladin
are you fucking playing wild or something?

>>152722374
>switch to hunter
>priest, paladin, druid, druid
there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who honestly don't believe the system is rigged

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>>152723257
>tfw played so many games with N'Zoth Rogue without drawing N'Zoth and Sylvanas that I actually went into my collection to see if I accidentally removed them from my deck

What's a good Arcane Giant OTK deck list?

>>152724194
anyfin is pretty good in standard mang

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>draw my 1 drop on turn 2
>draw my 2 drop on turn 3
>draw my 3 drop on turn 4
>draw my 4 drop on turn 5

>>152718543
Menagerie Warden will be good.
Cloaked huntress might raise secret hunter up a tier.
Arcane giant will probably be useful to rouges.
Violet illusionist might enable some combos at 3 mana (just off the top of my head: spell power up with something then use one of those otherwise-unplayable "deal X damage to EVERYONE" cards).
Medivh will probably be stuck in slow mage decks even if atiesh isn't that good, just for the FUN.
Grandma will probably be great. The new creeper/egg.

And where the fuck is barnes? Gonna be in a whole bunch of decks, he's solid.
Might even claim shredder's crown as the universal 4-drop.

As for Malchezaar, he's not good except maybe in decks that should die in a fire anyway like freeze or fatigue mage.
I'll probably play him a bit though. Just for the hell of it. Can't resist that sweet, sweet RNG. STORIES!

>>152722913
>hey /hsg/, i herd you liek tavern brawl so i put some tavern brawl in your ladder so you can draw darkfisher while you draw nat pagle

>broken tier
Menagerie Warden, Barnes, Arcane Giant
>very good tier
Kindly Grandmother, Cloaked Huntress, Onyx Bishop, Priest of the Feast, Malchezaar's Imp, Silverware Golem
>decent tier
Enchanted Raven, Firelands Portal, Medivh's Valet, Ivory Knight, Maelstrom Portal
>somewhat playable tier
Moonglade Portal, Spirit Claws, The Curator, Moroes, Medivh, Book Wyrm, Netherspite Historian, Arcane Anomaly, Avian Watcher, Moat Lurker, Swashburglar
>shit/meme tier
rest of the set
>special mention tier
Purify, Prince Malchezaar

>>152724304
>win
>win
>win
>win

I think you don't know how to play Hunter yet.

Seriously you should basically never lose to Priest.

>>152725202
this is face hunter not midrange

>>152724194
It's an actual deck now on standard because of Ivory Knight, also Kolento made a decklist for it, so expect a few anyfin paladins in the ladder

Help I can't get past rank 10 playing Zoo
how can I get better

>>152725261
>playing face hunter
kill you're self my man

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rate

>>152724938
My gut says moroes is underrated right now. He's very useful for any deck that needs to churn out cheap bodies, like classic paladins and mass-buff combos.
I'm getting probably 3 or 4 stewards off of him per game before board clear.

>>152725687
>not a spell
>not a secret
>not a weapon
>not a minion

??????
how do you play it

>>152725687
make it a secret that doesn't trigger off normal begin turn draw and it'd be neat

>>152725687
this is insultingly bad vs any aggro. Actually, it can be bad vs anyone. Nice fucking rng damage.

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>>152725639
i'm curing the ladder of the shaman and zoo infestation
also call of the huffer alone makes midrange just as bad

>>152725687
Its like crackle, but much worse

>>152724028

Yep, and she's the only class I enjoy on top of it all

Can we just fucking give Paladin a good card already like FUCK

>>152726263
Nah, paladins deserve everything that's coming to them.

>>152726263
They already got Ivory Knight
>>152726380
Also this

>>152726380
t. warrior cuck

>>152726263
We just had secret Paladin (something that's still cancer on wild), so it can seat on the backburner for some time now

>>152726263
>Had one of the most cancerous decks in HS history before Standard
>Now has Ivory Knight which opens up a ton of new possibilities
>He hasn't tried the new Anyfin deck
>implying Priest doesn't need one more

Are you high?

>Warrior ends game with 3 HP and 30+ armor
Armor is the most broken mechanic in this fucking game.

>>152726589
>wanting priest to be good
Are you a masochist

>>152726713
No, I'm a Priest main :^)

>>152714914
>Moat lurker
>purify

Why are priest combos so fucking strong compared to every other class?

>>152726263

You have enough shit, when is it going to be Valeeras time already

>>152726648
Just play Midrange Hunter if you hate Warrior so much

>>152726773
>no I'm a faggot :^)

>>152726773
>wanting to play more priest mirrors
you're a masochist

>>152726818
You mean like that time when you automatically ended the game at turn 9 every single game with zero counterplay outside of being a Warrior running literally every armor card in the game

>>152726802
That's just one more single target removal which priest already has plenty of without combo required, Moat lurker's battlecry works better as death rattle abuse in n'zoth decks anyway.

>>152726830
>>152726927
Priest is a respectable class that does NOT deserve this level of bullying

>>152727439
fuck off anduin

>>152726263
>Nightbane Templar

They got one. Muster for Dragons gives them a way to (basically) guarantee Kings value. 4/5 turn 3 into 4/4 charge 4 into 5/5 Consort, Mysterious Challenger, T7 Alexstrasza, Tirion GG.

>>152724417
>arcane giant otk
>good
It's just a shittier version of worgen warrior.

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>>152727439
>Priest is a respectable class

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>>152714914
>Kripp complains about mages being OP in arena ( which they are)
>He picks mage
>Going 3-2 at the moment

Has anybody else tried Wicked Witchdoctor yet? How do you guys feel about it?

>>152727598
>4/5 turn 3
a 2/3 and 2 1/1s is way worse than a 4/5. The card is a worse version of blackwing technician.

>>152727881
but he drew his secret before the scientist don't you understand?

>>152727657
Yeah, but it looks more fun.

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HNNNNNGGGGG

>>152728696

ign? server?

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>>152727657
I disagree, buddy. You should check Tempostorm.com for the latest, most up to date tier rankings and I think you'll find that Arcane Giant OTK is not only the most difficult deck in the game, but also the best deck in the game.

Check it out if you ever feel like you want to Become Legendary™.

>>152728803
Desolate#1376 NA

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>>152728836
Also, don't forget to use the promo code TEMPO to get ridiculous savings!

>>152728912

nutshells#1196

sent

>>152728836
>>152729054
Why is Reynad a meme?

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>opponent ropes every turn even though he's playing an easy deck and has a very obvious play to make

>>152729138
sorry bud was first come first served

>>152728208
It's about the same against Hunter, better against Zoo but worse against Warrior. I think the Shaman value comes down to whether Maelstrom Portal becomes a thing. I've seen a few aggro decks running it, but this has been at ranks 7-9.

>>152729175

>streamer fumbles around and over thinks until rope despite having only one possible play to avoid dying

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>>152729175
>aggro shaman takes more than 3 seconds to think about his turn
I can't even see your cards and I can predict every play you're going to make, shithead. Your deck literally plays itself all it needs you to do is slam the cards onto the board.

>>152726589
>>implying Priest doesn't need one more
i am frankly terrified by how much of a boost onyx bishop gave to priest
one fucking card and suddenly priest goes from having complete 0 midgame trivially easy miracle fodder, to having a reasonably chunky midgame. Priest might not be *good* yet, strictly speaking, but cards as apparently innocuous and mediocre as priest of the feast and onyx bishop gave anduin a big boost and some nice lines in certain matchups. If Blizzard actually tries to push priest in the next expansion I fear for the meta.

>>152728836
Reynad doesn't even play charge in his giants deck anymore, let alone enough for otk. His giants warrior is basically the warrior version of echo mage

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>>152727439
>Priest is a respectable class

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Trying to do something different. rate/hate suggestions are welcome.

>>152729175
>>152729539
oh boo fucking hoo
the more time your opponent takes the more time you have to think
pure upside, nothing to complain about, unless you're playing a deck whose lines require less time to think about than your opponent's turn length
You are playing a cerebral deck, right? You're not just being a hypocrite when you call other people's decks easy and that they play themselves? You are actually taking advantage of the extra time your opponent gives you for free? Or are you just a shitter?

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Buy more salad

>>152729984
>already know what my opponent will do
>thinking about my following turn
pick one (1) and only one (1).

Hearthstone has been reduced to Tempostone and every turn from your opponent has become easily predictable if they are playing one of the meta decks. When their best play is to just shit the most mana efficient things onto the board there is no longer anything to think about, even when you're playing a reactive deck like Freeze, Miracle, any kind of control, etc.

>>152730395
>every turn from your opponent has become easily predictable if they are playing one of the meta decks
>not expecting tech choices from your opponents playing meta decks
how's silver league treating you? don't worry, there's plenty of time to make it to rank 5 for your golden epic this month

>>152730641
>tech cards
>actually showing up on time when you need them
>actually doing anything other than significantly hurting the match ups where you don't need them
child pls, go to bed it's getting late.

>>152729175
>rope him back
>he starts playing at sanic speeds

>match starts
>alt tab after playing turn
>hmm, he's taking awhile
>never ended my turn

Can't even say sorry anymore on top of it, thanks blizz

>>152730924
>this bait
>in this thread
>???
I think you meant to start a thread on /b/, you'll have much better success with the summer crowd over there.

>>152731410

that's what you think

>>152731408
I do this all the time, shit sucks

>>152714914
I have 6500 dust.

What deck should I build to make legendary

>>152716954
Playing arena 2017

>>152731826
Anyfin pally and enjoy it while you can.

>>152731826
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/kolentos-kindly-grandmotherbarnes-midrange-hunter-august-2016-season-29/

>>152731826
any deck that won't make you want to claw your eyes out in the middle of playing the probably 150+ games necessary for climbing to legend
i'll give you a hint, if you're not legend already, it's not any decks you own or any decks similar to ones you own, so build something off-the-wall. Maybe that's anyfin pally, maybe that's just "midrange" hunter, who knows.

>>152725687
this fucking card is like fireballing face

>>152732184
This deck doesn't require any dust really.

>>152732306
>>152732143
Is something going to happen to anyfin anytime soon? I've seen the anyfin deck that uses Nzoth and a bunch of healing and both rags. Is that the standard anyfin deck?

>>152732591
Anyfin will die next year when LoE rotates out. Maybe some new and spicy murloc memes will take the card's place.

>>152732846
What does anyfin lose to?

>>152732974
Yesterday I beat one as Priest by stealing a Forbidden Healing with Shifting Shade and then blasting his face for 20 with an Auchenai.

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>tfw you have a full golden deck to intimidate your opponent

>>152732846

10 mana
Mega Murloc
Battlecry: Gain 2+/2+ for every murloc played this game

>>152733107
>priest
>winning

Nice fictional story but seriously what decks counter anyfin

>>152732974
Shaman/Hunter and Freeze Mage.
Generally anything that can SMOrc down the deck before it can react or burst it down from 20+ health

>>152733129
Anyone with a level 60 hero can have a full golden deck

>>152733195
Transform effects kill the anyfin OTK, so presumably control shaman actually does pretty well if anyone actually bothered with that outside of bog creeper memeing.

OH FUCKING RENO YOU ARE SO GOD DAMN BALANCED GO EAT A FUCKING SACK OF SHIT BLIZZARD

>>152733195
>He doesn't know

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>>152733370
aggrotard get btfo

>>152733432
>Midrange is aggro
:^)

>>152733370
>>152733592
run burst you fucking midrange shitter
you think you're too good for that, think you should be entitled to just shit out a board and hold board for as long as you have OP pushed cards to wallet into play, never mind the fact that you lose board lose game
nobody's going to reno around something like leeroy PO abusive soulfire, and if they do they probably haven't healed much and you can just face until they're back in lethal range now with no miraculous out
i have literally never been renoed out of the game from 17 to legend and I was playing aggro this whole time. I somehow doubt that literally every renolock I faced had their reno buried in the bottom half of their deck.

>>152727881
he just went 12 with that mage ya dipshit

>>152733885
I would rather shoot myself before running warlock.

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>Firelands portal is a bad card they said

>Run 2 of them
>Rank 5

Hearthtards?

>>152734717

>rank 5
>good

>>152734717
>Firelands portal is a bad card they said
Said no one.

Mage kinda sucks against all these warriors though.

>>152734850
>Going to legend

I'm not trying to cuck myself out of 9 hours a day lad

>>152734317
then play leeroy cold blood instead
grom inner rage
anyfin
fireball roaring torch
the list goes on and on and on
if you lose the grind game and have to go face - which is the only situation in which reno would do anything meaningful to your allegedly midrange deck - you're one step removed from being an aggroshitter
you can either come to terms with that and build your deck intelligently or continue to get btfo

>>152734856
What beats all these warrior decks

>>152734956
hunter is literally the new warrior because of how good it is against warrior

>>152734956
Cancer barnes hunter

>>152734956
Midrange/tempo warriors? hunter

Control/c'thun warriors? Priest and totem shaman I mean totems as in slow ass totems with fire ele instead of wolves or 477
combo warriors? Either warrior up yourself or run Bogchamp

I hate this shit game.

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r8 What i can change here?

>>152735812
What the fuck am I looking at?

>>152735812
i think u picked the wrong class

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League of Legends is to Heroes of the Storm
as
Magic the Gathering is to Hearthstone

>>152735812
What the hell is going on here.

once the spire is out, am i going to regret having crafted gold yogg?

Just reached rank 15, boys. Playing token Druid is fun.

I know it's not a great rank or anything, I know I'm pretty shit, but fuck it I'm happy

>>152736016
dota is to heroes of the storm*

League of legends would be more like yugioh in the analogy

>>152736127
Why?

Medivh's a shit legendary, Yogg is literally win or lose the game: the card

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>>152736102
>>152735998
>>152735892
Kripp did something like this yesterday

>>152735812
why mark of the wild and not mark of y'shaarj
why raid leader and not dire wolf alpha
why abusive sergeant without argent squire
why pantry spider in a deck without evolve
why soul of the forest in a deck without card draw
why brann
why no flame juggler
why no living roots

>>152736269
>Kripp
There's the problem.

>>152736269
>kripp
you know he's garbage at the game right

Would opinions on Ragnaros be different if it had the following card text?

Charge.
Must attack during each of your turns.
Ragnaros attacks a random enemy character and is immune when attacking.

>>152736269
anon pls, kripp is good at arena but in constructed he only makes shit decks, usually super slow and greedy control ones that trigger his whining whenever he loses to fast decks

>>152736445
At least he use something different from netdecks.
>>152736359
Explain to me why?
Dire wolf>Raid leader

>>152736641
Soooo it's vulnerable to taunts? Is that it?

There's nothing wrong with current rag

>>152736641
that's the same effect, if it would get around taunts like the 50% ogres do
otherwise you just made it worse for no reason

>>152736641

The only difference i see is that now his damage is taken into consideration, so a 1/1 is much weaker than a buffed, and windfury works with him.

Overall completely unecessary

>>152736739
>At least he use something different from netdecks.
And he is also a shitter that thinks Warrior is the only balanced class in the game. Kripp literally knows jack shit about constructed, and is only "good" in arena when he isn't playing like a greedy jew.

>>152736739
2 mana is a lot less than 3 mana
if you have 2 or less minions dire wolf alpha is strictly better, if you have 3+ minions but you're using the attack buff to trade favorably (often nice when you're playing around boardwipe) then dire wolf alpha can be strictly better if your positioning is competent, if you have 3+ minions and they're all going face - then and only then does raid leader pay off, and probably you're not getting much extra damage for that one mana before the opponent does something to your board

>>152736937
I'm new to this game and already get bored from the meta in two weeks.

>>152737013
Understand now.
Get to sleep now adios anons

>highmane
>coin call of the wild

>highmane
>highmane
>call of the wild

>highmane
>coin call of the wild
>call of the wild

How the fuck are you supposed to beat this complete bullshit fucking three games back to back to this horseshit lmao play hyper minions on curve :^)

>>152737542
facehunter beats midrange hunter

>>152737542

stop playing warrior or cthun druid.

Tempo mage destroy midrange hunter.

why isnt there an emote to tell your opponent that they are a skill less hack?

>>152738472
What skilled decks do you play champ?

>>152738472
That's incredible!

my 3-0 arena run turned in a 3-3. Priest mind gamed my grull on turn 4. The third game I lost a priest mind controlled my grull. so sad...

>>152738472
there's always add friend, anon

>>152738539
Anything with control where I have to think about my plays rather than just playing the card with the mana cost that matches the turn count

>>152738662
then they know im salty

Is Ramp Druid the best Barnes deck? I feel it's a fair card on average, especially when played on turn four. In Druid, i f you coin+innervate out Barnes on turn one, you win the game on the spot if you pull Y'Shaarj, Ragnaros, Aviana, or Ysera.

>>152737542
aggro shaman zoo lock token druid etc

hi Reynad

>>152739209
Hey. Reynad here, I have a huge forehead

anybody on the asia server got the 80g quest and can add me ? I'm slightly short of 1st karazhan wing on that server. shibbyiu#1952

>>152737542

Midrange Shaman and Tempo Mage. Miracle Rogue isn't the easiest thing to deal with either as a Hunter, though that mostly comes down to Saps neutering the Highmanes.

>>152739330
nobody from /hsg/ is on the asia server
t. someone who rerolled 80g on asia two days ago

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>the feeling of playing rogue and getting an astral communion from huckster
>decide fuck it and play it anyways
>win

>>152739087
>Control
>Think
It must be really hard thinking which of your 25 removal cards are you going to use.

Anybody have some Legendary advice. I've got 2600 dust I'm looking to blow. I play a lot of Rogue and Mage for what it's worth.

>>152739701
Malygos
Yog

>>152739648
lol

>>152739701
Thalnos

>>152739701


aggro shaman

warrior anything

aggro rouge

miracle if u have big brain!!! XD

>>152739701
Thalnos and yogg.

So why is entomb a card again?

>>152736016
Who is this sperm wyrm?

>>152718543
1. put medivh in tempo mage
2. play medivh then use spells as usual
3. profit

>>152740408
>tfw mages will finally belong in a museum

>>152740587
>HarrisonJones.jpg

Anyone have any C'thun Warrior decks they're having personal success with? VS says it's tier 2 but I'm having trouble finding decks from August. Was the "default" list just not refined at all since July?

LOL YOU PLAYED A THREAT, LET ME JUST TAKE IT AND ADD IT INTO MY DECK

LOL WHAT A CARD

>>152724660
>Violet illusionist might enable some combos at 3 mana (just off the top of my head: spell power up with something then use one of those otherwise-unplayable "deal X damage to EVERYONE" cards).
what in the fuck are you talking about

>Pally topdecks Truesilver on 4
Fucking disgusting.

>>152740734
There is literally nothing wrong with this.

>>152736445
>>152736731
>>152736398
>>152736937

He has the highest win rate in arena or one of the highest win rates consistently

>>152740734
>Complaining about Entomb when Execute is in the game
Found the Control Warrior shitter.

>still only have 1 huckster

Why the fuck does this game make me fucking blow dust on rares

>>152740762
>already have a card in hand
>topdeck the other and play that to tilt my opponent more
It's the little psychological hits that edge out victory

>>152740925
>People clearly talking about constructed
>"B-but muh arena"

>>152740734
I never play priest and there is literally nothing wrong with entomb you fucking shitter. If you want to complain about removal like a fag there's execute for that.

>someone gets noz off monkey
>they think that if they wait until the end of their rope then play him, it will eat some of my turn through the bug

How do people just not get it. That isn't how it works and it does nothing but waste your time.

>>152741213
I don't know what bug you're taliking about but my first impulse with noz is to rope to increase the odds my opponent goes afk before the dragon comes down

>>152740925

Because the best players don't even play arena because it's a stupid fucking format. Opening the door for shitters like Hafu and Kripp, who are completely irrelevant, to prosper and impress plebeian shieldbearers like you.

>>152740734
You're like those people that complain about bounces in yugioh.

>>152741191
>>152740932
>Two (2) card removal

lol

>>152741750
>What is tempo
Found the Shieldbearer.

so are the Faeria fags playing the game? it got barely 300 people on steam right now.

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What are you listening to, /hsg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCdQhhaP_ms

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Anyone have a fun dick to recommend? I hit my rank 5 and I'm tired of playing the rock paper scissors that is ranked right now.

>>152742000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGyn7128LCk

Hadn't heard it in a while.

>>152740734
>complaining about what usually amounts to a 6 mana execute

>>152742525
>removing your thread + adding it to their deck is comparable to just removal

>>152742693
Adding it to your deck doesn't guarantee you'll draw it. Besides, Entomb is a tempo loss for yourself unlike Execute which nets you tempo.

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>the past 20 times I've cast King's Elekk it hasn't drawn me anything

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>Make Abusive Sergeant a 1/1
>Make Execute cost 2 mana
>Make Highmane a 5/4
>Make Tunnel Trogg and Mana Wyrm 1/2
>Make an exception for Call of the Wild and make it legendary quality
>Give Warrior an armor cap of 30, or nerf the cards that generate it so he builds it slower

Is any of this okay?

>>152743105
>armor cap of 30
>build it slower
Man you must be getting shit on to even think of this.
That would make warrior objectively the single worst class.
Not to mention how hard they'd have to rework half the cards it has.

>>152743105
Armor should be reworked completely. It should take double damage from non minion or weapon damage.

>>152743337
Anon that sounds confusing for new players.

>>152743465
Let me rephrase it better for Hearthstone's half retarded playerbase:
>Armor takes double damage from spells and hero powers

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>>152714914

Who keeps posting this shitty & ugly looking e-celeb?

>>152743337

HS is too far gone. It needs to be removed and restarted entirely with a fresh team.

>>152743105

Just make COTW summon a random animal companion 3 times

>>152744512
Yeah so people can summon 3 huffers? No thanks

>>152744512
>Summons 3 Huffers
ME GO FACE

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r8

Alternatively, 1 mana to give one (any) minion 50% chance to attack the wrong enemy.

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>>152744512
>Summon 3 Huffers

Read filename.

>>152743707
>e-celeb
How dare you speak like this of mom

>>152718543

>/hsg/ thinks Prince Malchezaar is the 3rd best card in the set
>much less they think it's anything but complete trash

How is this board so full of shieldbearers? I cannot comprehend.

>>152718543
I think people saying Warden will literally end games through tiger cheese alone might be wrong but I've been on the wrong side of history enough to know that it might be broken as shit.

Meme Huntress

Prince Malch is literally negative value and won't work in anything outside of a meme 30 legendary deck (which I will be glad to run).

Raven on its own is whatever but might as well exist for a 1 drop in a beast druid deck. There's honestly better shit at that value outside of the beast tag.

Arcane giant feels weird to me. Still on the fence.

Valet depends on how secret heavy you get. Normal mage isn't but that could change.

I think illusionist is way too niche. Self harm warlock doesn't need her and fatigue warrior already just armors up to hell. It'd only work against being the very last push against another fatigue deck with literally no answers at the very end.

Fools Bane is more power to warriors for control but I feel like you'd already have to be losing enough board space to really make use of it. You're already aoe clearing or taking shit down 1 by 1. It's 4 turns of "unlimted" winaxe but control already does well enough with two win axes played out much earlier.

Meivh is literally just for something like a tempo mage.

Meme wolf meme class

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>>152744673
>How is this board so full of shieldbearers? I cannot comprehend.
The fact that we are on /vg/ does not make the average that much higher. At least we can assume that posters here are rank20 at the very least.

>>152725724
Literally the only reason Moroes is as bad as he is right now is the fact warrior (ghouls) are dominating so much of the ladder. If he existed in a meta where a turn three aoe clear wasn't something 40% of decks would drop for FREE (you can totally play ghoul on an empty board for just a three drop if you damn well wanted to) he'd be doing a lot better.

When will Hearthstone finally five in and add Achievments?

Will they be stupid shit most videogames tend to do like "Get to Lv. 60 with a class" or "Win 500 games as Rogue" or will they be really good valve-tier ones like "Summon 5 Sylvanas's before turn 6 as a Priest in Constructed" or "Deal 60 damage to your opponent before turn 4"

>>152745061
We already have that: Golden Portrait.

>>152743105
>Make Abusive Sergeant a 1/1

No

>Make execute cost 2 mana

The biggest issue with execute is that basically anything in the world can activate it and most are cheap things or things you'd do anyway. I think it goes beyond ramping the damage

>Make Tunnel Trogg and Mana Wyrm 1/2

Yes

>Make an exception for Call of the Wild and make it legendary quality

Nerf it to 10 and even then it's 10000 times more playable than post nerf mind control

So is the best god and why is it Yogg?

>>152745153
>Not nerfing one the of the biggest reasons zoo and aggro in general is so dominant.
Fucking why?

>>152745061
>Achievments
Why? It serve no purpose.
Also I sort of hate that shit.
>Friend buy game, so do I.
>He constantly brag about "dude, I've done x achievement"
I DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK. Are you good at the game or not? Thats all I care jesus fucking christ.

>>152745153
>Make Abusive Sergeant a 1/1
>No

Why not? It's fair.

>>152745169
It's N'zoth, he's the more reliable of the 3.
Yogg is a last resort panic button

>>152744957
Blizzard never released the real numbers, 1/2 or 1/3 of the player base is just dead accounts sitting on rank 25 which Blizzard will never admit.

>>152745217
>He wants a midrange/control meta
To be completly honenst, I wanted that. But right now I am actually looking foward to any matches vs aggro. Holyshit it takes forever to ladder vs all these mages, warriors and priest. Why is there so many priest on ladder tonight? Why the fuck did I not see a single aggro deck in the past ~10 games FUCK.

>>152745318
Are you stupid? They can perfectly monitor the active accounts and make the stats with those. They dont even need to tell us the amount, just the %.

>>152745407
Of course they can see which accounts are just dead but they still include those into their player base numbers to fluff it up by a lot.

>Opponent adds me after the game and ask why I squelched him. He then proceed to tell me how rude I am.
I was wondering why his avatar was flashing the whole game. Like, don't you get it, I don;t give a shit. What the fuck.

>>152745169
One of the dumbest cards they've ever released.

>>152745535
>giving them a chance to speak

When someone adds you it's more than likely that they're upset and want to bm you. It's never worth it

>>152745535
>Face off against a really unconventional deck that obliterates me via it's win condition
>Add that person to tell them "hey man that was a cool deck"
>They never add me back
>Probably assumes I was a butt blasted child crying that he was using a netdeck

Feels sad

>>152745675
>bm
>in text form
what?

>>152745407

There is a reason that graph shows gaps of 5 for the top part but covers all of 25 to 15 in the bottom part.

Because most of those players are dead accounts sub 20.

Blizzard doesn't release numbers specifically so they can skew them.

>>152745726
What's so confusing about it? people are assholes via text all the time

>>152745324
Aggro has always been in the meta. In fact, I don't think there has ever been a point in time where it wasn't annoying as hell. I think the only meta in which it wasn't dominant was back when Patron Warrior was king, and even then it was still common on ladder. Of course, once that got nerfed they came back in full force with Secret Paladin.

The fact that Blizzard keeps releasing so many slow, high value cards to hopefully (unsuccessfully) push people to play Control means they themselves probably want aggro to stop being so common.

>>152745891
Nigger your on a fucking image board right now, and you get triggered by fucking text messages in a children's cardgame?

>>152743337
t. aggro fag

are u serious control warrior isnt even that strong; the stacking of massive armor is the only thing that makes it viable.
and even when it stacks armor its such a slow deck that combo decks like worgen can one shot them

>>152745535
how do you know if youve been squelched?

>>152745964
Oh boy, did someone not add you after a game so you could yell at them?

>>152745947

>push people to play Control means they themselves probably want aggro to stop being so common.

If they didnt want aggro to be king why do they do nothing but push viable aggro cards and unviable control cards?

>>152743105
>Is any of this okay?
No, blizzard should just print more cards that beat aggro like fiery war axe instead of just nerfing everything to the ground

>>152746000
>stacking of massive armor is the only thing that makes it viable
>not that combined with tons of extremely cheap removal
>combined with one of the best board clears in the game
>combined with insane card draw
>combined with a playstyle that's strong at all stages of the game
>combined with many extremely strong variations of the deck, which include otk

Yes, being fat is the only reason Warrior is strong.

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>>152743105
>>152743267
>>152743337
>>152743465
>>152744080
>>152744512
>>152745153
>>152745217
>>152745239
>>152745324
>>152746000
>>152746350
You all are objetively wrong with these observations.
The following changes would objetively make Hearthstone a much better card game, no reason to nerf anything, this balances the cardpool forever:

DISCOVER mechanic becomes evergreen.
SECRETS mechanic becomes evergreen and all classes gain access to them.

Neutral cards moved to Classic
>Nerubian Egg
>Sludge Belcher
>Loatheb
>Zombie Chow
>Reno Jackson
>Sir Finley Mrrgglton
>Justicar Truehearth (all the powers are re-ajusted for balance)

Hunter cards moved to Classic
>Webspinner
>King's Elekk
>Steamweedle Sniper
>Call of the Wild

Paladin cards moved to Classic
>Muster for Battle
>Shielded Minibot
>Keeper of Uldaman
>Anyfin Can Happen
>Murlock Knight

Druid cards moved to Classic
>Darnassus Aspirant
>Living Roots
>Raven Idol
>Fandral Staghelm

Warrior cards moved to Classic
>Death's Bite
>Grim Patron (becomes Warrior class only)
>Alexastra's Champion

Mage cards moved to Classic
>Arcane Blast
>Flamewalker
>Mad Scientist (becomes Mage class only)

Priest cards moved to Classic
>Deathlord (becomes Priest class only)
>Velen's Chosen
>Lightbomb
>Dark Cultist
>Museum Curator

Rogue cards moved to Classic
>Tinker's Oil
>Unearthed Raptor
>Tomb Pillager
>Undercity Huckster

Shaman cards moved to Classic
>Ancestral Knowledge
>Lava Shock
>Tuskarr Totemic
>Totem Golem
>Tunnel Trogg

Warlock cards moved to Classic
>Imp-losion
>Demonwrath
>Dark Peddler

>>152746676
How often have you reposted your shit opinion so far?
Nobody cares, fuck off.

>>152746676
>Muster for Battle
>Shielded Minibot
>Flamewaker

There are a ton of other retarded cards on the list but this is worst Hearthstone-related opinion I have ever seen.

i've almost got enough dust for a legendary, should I be smart and craft thalanos/sylvannas or just go full retard with yogg?

>>152742525
>Add it to your deck
>Won't trigger deathrattles
>Can be used on full health minions

I think execute is bullshit too, but comparing both is just retarded.

>>152746927
Craft accordingly to the deck you want to play, classic cards get priority because they're eternal

>>152746927
Sylvanas > Yogg > Thalnos

All of them see play but Sylvanas is a must-have because of how versatile it is.

>>152747036
2 years is eternal right??

>>152746546
>thinking that all archetypes of warrior can have all these characteristics at once

>>152746053
He assumed that since I never replied to him the whole game. He was right.

>>152746676
some men just want to see the world burn

>>152744961
>right now
Except he will never good because, Ravaging Ghoul is in the same rotation block as him. Moroes will be bad for all standard, and forever after.

>playing arena
>opponent gets turn 9 firelands portal into patron into ping
>cant clear it

FUCK YOU

>>152747313
Well if for whatever reason warrior turns to the bottom pile before it rotates out it could work. I can't imagine what could ever cause that.

>lose to priest because he has perfect draw
>you draw shit

Fuck this game.

>>152747140
wait, classic cards are going to be rotated out? so I crafted ragnaros for nothing?

>>152747492
STORIES MY FRIEND

Getting cucked H A R D by silverware golem, how the fuck do I beat him, I haven't even gotten close.